The Reel Rejects - Superman Justice League Tease! Cavill Talks W/ Corenswet, Mephisto's MCU Future, TLOU & MORE!!

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

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We got a good amount to get into today some Superman talk. What podcast would it be if we did not talk about some D.C. stuff. Yeah, boy. And also, you know, some stuff about Henry Cavill as well. And The Last of Us. This is actually... I have feelings for sure about the departure of the creator departing the show. Vin Diesel said some stuff that is.

I was like, what the hell are you talking about, man? I love the setting of where he said it too. Like it's, I mean, yes, I want to talk about that. For regarding the next Fast and Furious and one of those statements, I'm like, I have very, I'm not positive feeling about one of the statements. Interesting. Some Mephisto theories that I'm just going to springboard off of Koi, now that Mephisto is officially here in the McHugh.

Yes. And then, of course, some patron cues. But before we go into any of that, little announcements, we, next week is not going to be your typical podcast. It's going to be a deep dive spoiler talk between Koi, myself, and John. We already shot it pre-recorded. And it's a really great talk. I really love that conversation. So, yes, it's a spoiler talk.

But then the following day, we will be doing a live stream. and I know the last live stream did not go according to plan. So we have upgraded the internet. Additionally, we are bringing someone in who did a very professional live stream for us with the company that we've been working with. They were to the much crazier set. So they're going to be coming in to make sure everything's working well for us. Cool.

We're going to make sure this next live stream is not going to be the bitch that it's been for us the last couple times. I'm just honestly as owner of this company. I'm humiliated by how it's been. And I'm super embarrassed by it. Everyone's been very understanding. A lot of it's not our fault at the same time. I'm like, no, no, we can't be doing this with live streams like that.

Hopefully once it's fixed, that's fixed. Like, once we figure out whatever, we can just do a live stream. And we could do them more often, too. Yeah, that's like the goal that we really, really, really, really want to do. So, yeah, but the first piece of things, the news, I'm just warming up my brain. You're the first person I'm talking to today. Really? Yeah, I've had a single conversation, so my brain is, like, just getting warmed up right now.

The first piece of news is, bum me out. Michael Madsen. Yeah. Man. Passed away. You know, every once in a while, celebrity death happens, and it could be people who I've never, ever seen in person, ever. But it does kind of hit me.

And I didn't think I actually had that association with Michael Madsen. But when I felt it, I was like, you know, I did grow up on a lot of his stuff. Yeah. I mean, nothing that's, like, particularly niche. It's more of the stuff that people, like, reservoir dogs, some people, he's in free willy, right? Yeah. I mean, I don't think I've seen free willy, but I know it's a free willy. The other one that I really grew up with him on is Donnie Brasco.

Did you see that one? Yeah. Pacino, Johnny Depp. I was a kid, but yeah, same where it's like growing up on. Yeah, really, really good. Kill Bill, Volume 1 and 2 are top 10 for me. And his performance in Kill Bill, Volume 2 is phenomenal. I remember that being like a big highlight.

What about you? For me, like recently once I'm in Hollywood, watching that reminded me how much I love him. Like he's playing a character that is very familiar, but seeing him there. you're like, oh, right. He was also on this very obscure show that was only on the PlayStation network called Powers.

And it's based off of a Brian Michael Bendis comic and he was really good in it. But it was literally, it didn't air on like a network. It was when everyone was doing their own streaming service. So it was just on PlayStation. He had to have a PlayStation to watch it.

But I remember thinking how great it was to have like an actor of that caliber on something, that niche that kind of elevated the whole thing because it was a Shroto Copley show, the guy from District 9. He was the lead and it was a Bendis comic. So that was great.

But yeah. Yeah, he was a guy that had that presence to him that whenever he was in something, you're like, oh, it's at least got that going for it. Like, he's a staple of elevating a certain type of film. Yeah. A lot of people associate him as like a tough guy. Yeah, for sure, like an Italian mafia, like that energy. But as he, as he aged and especially with the role that he was picking, you picked up more on like somberness, sadness that he would often portray. He was all, I think he, yeah, he's also in the hateful eight.

Yeah. He's one like Tarantino's guys. know and i i remember even in um sin city he's uh in the in the opening with bruce willis things like that i was like i do have a lot of associations with michael madsen and i'm thinking like tough guy but then seeing how he's transitioned more into like the somer guy i actually don't know what he passed away from but just i had to know that he that he's gone i heard it was a great dude too my uh one of my friends shelby worked to them on powers and uh he was the first guy to like introduce her to the crew and like made sure to like make everybody feel comfortable and

that always whenever i hear that about an actor especially someone that's been the game for 30 years. It's always good to hear they're good people on set. Usually that's why they've been in the game for so long. Exactly. Yeah, it does. The town does kind of churn people out. It's not one to one, but the people that make it are generally cream rising

to the crop. The more interviews I've been listening to with people, like how Seth Rogan's been making the rounds, it's made me pay more attention to how a lot more people point out how being nice goes a very long way in Hollywood. When they say not, you know, what you know, but

who you know. A big part of that is the relationship building. Yeah. And so sometimes it seems like, oh, okay, that might make sense why some people who might not be like is the most talented actor, director, or whatever, but they get to keep working because people, at the end of the day, this is a relationship business. And I think that's really important to, like, keep in mind. So high stress, high pressure business. So I think there, why add the variable of someone that's a dick? You know, like, it's already a powder keg. Like, you don't need that. So unless you're like the most talented actor ever, um, don't be a dick. Even if you are, don't be a dick. dick yeah it i think that's a really fair point and the longer i'm in town the more i'm like

how do i come across how can i adjust yeah yeah ego can be a death killer man but what do you guys think about what do you guys think about michael madsen died that's not the way to say it list down below what your favorite michael madsen performances are let's honor him in the comments please i'm sure you've seen him if you don't know the name right off the bat for sure you've seen him that reservoir i've seen it's so iconic yeah man and how cool is it like it is always so sad when someone passes but how cool is it to say like leave your favorite blankety blank like to have such a body of work that there's so many different favorites that's awesome all right now let's hop into the uh the meat of potatoes of today's stories um hall of justice talk has been going around

yeah where i watched the brandon davis who i actually did interview with here and we will be putting that up i think i want to say july 18th we'll be putting up that interview uh great talk for Brandon Davis. You don't know him. He's like a really great nerdy reporter. That's like such a oversimplification of what we is. We really get vulnerable and in depth in that talk. And I really can't wait for you guys to see this side of Brandon. But I thought I like the opportunity of interviewing a really popular interviewer. And anyway, he did interview with Gunn during the same junket that I was a part of. And they did talk about the Hall of Justice side. And Gunn did confirm that it's still in a construction. And it's owned by Maxwell Lord.

who also owns the Justice Gang, which suggests the Hall serves as its team's headquarters aligning with its corporate, privatized superhero theme, and the unfinished state of the hall adds a layer of world building, showcasing a DC universe still in development. And, of course, Gunn has positioned the Justice Gang as a precursor to a potential Justice League, which he did confirm does not yet exist in the DCU.

We need to really see what Peacemaker does. And the way he's talked about peacemakers, saying like he's made it sound like a central viewing. Sure. You know, as much as he's been saying things at the stand alone, I think for some clarification purposes, he has made, it seems like he's,

uh, that's going to be a necessity for clarification. Yeah. I mean, he's mentioned that, you know, the most of Peacemaker season one is Canon and the way he's navigated Canon.

Every time he's framed what Canon's going to be, he's listed peacemaker. So I imagine peacemaker will kind of be the thing. So we understand how Canon's going to operate. So some additional context that is already out. The meta-humans have existed for over 300 years, and they're called the Justice Gang at the moment, right? Now, Maxwell Lord owning it, Maxwell Lord is not going to be someone who owns the Justice League. A common theory I've been hearing going around, because this is to me is the pre-to-the-justice League.

And a common theory that I've been hearing going around is Bruce Wayne will eventually buy the Hall of Justice. Oh, that makes sense. And then we will go into the Justice League. But with the information that has been out from James Gone directly, what do you think about them actually showing the Hall of Justice, letting the audiences know about it? And how do you think this is, do you think this is actually a setup for the Justice League? Yeah. I mean, you don't name something in the DC Comics universe of any kind of just as blank without the knowledge that it's going to inform certain tones. I personally love the idea of letting buildings speak as world building.

Like when you think about New York, there are certain buildings you think of. When you think about any city in our reality. And when you think about metropolis, you think of the daily planet. You think of certain like landmarks. So if you've got those landmarks in the trailers, if you start to show those landmarks, it starts to make your city in fiction feel non-fiction. It makes it like it's got placeholders. So in literal world building, you can metaphor.

world-built. So I love the idea of having something that is not yet done show the evolution of it getting finalized. So I think it's a great use of narrative. Do you have any theories for how the Justice League will actually come to form with the precursor being Maxwell Lord owning the justice game? I have to imagine there will be commentary on corporate-owned characters, right? like it it's tricky because it's very like I have strong opinions on our world so I don't want to offend 51% of people but I think it's very scary to live in a world where we are owned in such an obvious way and I think it's really scary to live in a world where we accept more and more like if you go to other countries it's very obvious what they think of us and if you if you talk about being someone that doesn't get paid time off or doesn't doesn't take vacate, like, everyone else is confused why we live the way we live. And at some point, the guillotine's come out. But at some point, there is a breaking point.

And I think that art needs to reflect the time in which it's made, just like, you know, 70s Daredevil comics feel like 70s, New York. And just like right after 9-11, there's things like the authority and the boys. And, like, we are reacting to our world. And I think corporations owning everything. and we're getting to the point where we're all kind of just wearing the NASCAR car logos on ourselves. Like we are kind of entities of pure capitalism. And so when that breaking point comes, you need your art to be set up for it.

And I think it makes sense to have all of these billionaire characters set up because we're living in a world where we don't get to choose things. It gets chosen for us. And I think that's reflected in heroes. And I think you need characters like Superman. and you need characters like what I imagine Bruce Wayne might represent, which is can you be a good person and operate in that system, or does the system need to change? He says daintily and carefully.

I subscribe to your theories of what they're building it around. You know, you got Lex Luthorne there. You got Maxwell Lord. You're talking about the billionaires. And I love the idea of steering away from the cliche of there's a big, daddy from another planet or something coming here. And now Batman or Superman or somebody has to unite the league, which, you know, again, I really enjoyed the hell. I was Zachson. I love that movie. Love that movie. Zach Snyder's Justice League. But, you know, that's how Avengers

formed. That's how Zach Snyder's Justice League form. That's the cliche route that you would expect for a formation. And it wasn't necessarily cliche until the last, like it's newly cliche. And so I think when the Avengers and when Zach was doing it, it was fresh. Yeah. But if you do it now. Exactly. And I like that this idea that the formation of it is tying to a real world relevancy without potentially it not being an overshadowing commentary. Right. So I think what you're on to is actually a pretty good idea. I mean, look at the trailers. You got stag industries. You've got Lord Tech. You've got Luther Corps. We've seen. And then you'll have the good bill in Aaron Bruce Wayne. And that's what I'm curious about is, is Bruce Wayne going to be the good billionaire or is it going to be using

Batman to do altruistic things while Bruce takes kind of some blows for being a yet another billionaire? What if Bruce Wayne isn't as beloved? Like, he could be more the playable. If Batman is justice and Bruce Wayne is kind of a punching bag for being yet another billionaire not helping Gotham, I think that's a lot more interesting. And then you've got the opportunity to show that billionaire shouldn't exist. Yeah, you know, and whenever I read Batman comics, the Bruce Wayne persona is not one that's really shunned. It's like you get some of that in the backdrop, but he's more like, especially as it goes on, he's more philanthropical. And he's trying to do like good things with the money and the, the public perspective and honoring Thomas Wayne a lot of the time. But I think it would be cool if there's a

clear dichotomy between the, it's like Spider-Man, but on a smaller scale. Sure. Yeah. Like this guy, Bruce Wade is just hated and then uh so you would not suspect that this guy would be a public servant in the form of a vigilante the playboy womanizer the guy that's like you know wasting money and i think they touched on that in nolan yeah no one definitely did but i think they touched on so they touched on the playboy des in i think in nolan but i think they did a really cool job showing that sometimes money itself gets corrupted in the batman yeah because the thomas wayne foundation like that was the thing that messed everything up right like gotham was corrupt because of an ultra act. Because of corruption in the police, because of corruption in the other people touching

that money. So I think the groundwork is laid if they want to go that route with Batman to make it more public. That was in private. That was all of the criminals taken, sucking on the teeth. This could be something where it's like, why is Bruce Wayne not helping? And that'd be interesting with billionaires being problematic. It would be interesting, too, to have a, the way how Superman aims to be a story about a person with power doing good. for the public being a public servant doing that with a real life someone who's more like just a human being. Yeah. Showing, hey, billionaires. Maybe it'd be more like this billionaires. Isn't that what art supposed to do? Like is to make you second guess your choices and to look at your morals

and ethics. So like pretty popular character. And it would be a cool demonstration of a parallel of like one person with metahuman powers like so physically powerful. And then you have another person with a very different kind of power position who's the antithesis to like a Lex Luthor right you know who's also financially powerful financially powerful but also you know scientifically engineering kind of mind uh think there'll be a lot of really cool ways where you are tethering it to even the superman world and it feels different than what we've seen like that's what's so great about Batman is you can have two simultaneous Batman the comics do it and there are so many ways to tell he's so multifaceted it'd be great because that would give us something we haven't seen because you don't want to repeat yourself yeah wow

That's what I would hope. We should do a video one day about who we think that the Justice League villain will be. I'd be fun. I also, I mean, I have, I have some pitches. Like, I have some ideas of, like, where I'd go next depending on this next little, like, announcement wave. Like, we know some things. We know, like, the next two years because James Gunn's doing a really good job, in my opinion, of not announcing too far out. They did the one big announcement.

Here's the new DCU. But since then, it's been like, okay, script is going to going into production. And then there's kind of just a retreat until they're ready to start to impress again. I like that so much more than what Marvel had been doing. Marvel's gotten way better,

I think lately. But what Marvel had been doing was like, here's everything. Oh, no, we have to move that. We have to move that. That's canceled. And so once there's a little bit more context, I would love to make some like,

oh, maybe this turns into this, this turns into this. Because I do think there's some really good opportunities with a Justice League being a slow burn and with it feeling more real than just like, unite the seven. Because that was original then. It was awesome.

But we can't do that again. No. No, but I'm excited, man. I think I still do think Batman will be the unifier, though. I think that... I think it makes more sense. Detective Comics DC, like, that's why DC is named after. I think Batman's so important.

That's why they got David Kornswit. Yeah, DC. Apparently he signs his name with the DC, and then he puts a little logo around. Does he? He's cute. Yeah. What a cute man. That dude, adorable.

Adorable man. Have you been watching some of the press? Yeah. Kissing babies, kissing puppies. Like, he's just like the Pope of Superman. Speaking of David Cornswit, he put out some, he was being interviewed and he talked about his interaction with Henry Cavill and Tyler Heckland from Superman and Lois, and often very overlooked, amazing portrayal of said Superman here. I got the actual short. Let me just play it and then we could just hear it.

Ready. I had the pleasure of exchanging letters with two previous supermans, Henry Cavill and Tyler Hecklin. Both of them, interestingly, sort of said in their own words, I'm not going to try to give you any tips. And I think that's a very Superman thing. Superman's not so much for giving advice or dictating how other people should be. They really just conveyed to me an encouragement and a sense of, you know, have fun with it, which I think is Superman's way of doing it too.

They were very encouraging and we had a lovely exchange and I'm excited to meet them one day. It'll be great when we can all get in a room together. I actually haven't, uh, that was the first time watching the clip. It's so, so, so I saw, I saw the quotes, but seeing the clip, what I love about that is he's giving credit to them. Yeah. The way how a lot of people have been saying, I didn't have, I didn't have the thought until I watched it, how, um, people are often being like, man, the way David Cornswit in interviews is even right here, like he just represents who he is as a person seems so reflective of who super who Superman Clark Kent is already. Yeah. That's what makes him such

perfect casting for it. And I love that he went out of his way when talking about Tyler and Henry to say his interactions with them, their personalities and their response, also very reflective of Superman. Like, oh, thank God. It's like giving credit to them. Yeah. Also in the same way how he's been getting credit for it, which is so nice. It's not the conversation, dude. I mean, he could be lying. He could be bullshitting. He could be, could have been awful. Henry could have been like, fuck off. You know, I don't, I don't really know. But a lovely letter. But this is a, and you know, like James has talked a bunch about how he's had interactions with Zach along the way, even consulted him about like the trunks and cape and stuff. And, you know, they took that

photo together showing like, no, everything's really cool there. And now David Cornswit to be saying that it's a great way of not being like, hey, can you go out there and pass the torch? Can you go out there and say this is cool and that you're excited for us, you know? But keeping the, I think it's more, I think it's more classy to keep it private. it and then if they're asked about it, then they can say. I love that it's also letters. That also feels so super nice. It's either they were emails and that David Cordesbett refers to emails his letters,

which is very Clark. Or they sent letters, which is so wholesome. Either way, like I love just the idea of letter sharing between Superman. And I really like that the way he is portraying them is like you just said, like in such a good light and such a positive thing because there is no rivalry that the fans make it out to be. There isn't between James and Zach. There isn't between these gentlemen.

There isn't a thing. And we're seeing, you know, when Marvel was doing its absolute peak output and when DC was trying to find its footing again, there was so much animosity. And you don't go to the DC store, you don't go to the Marvel store, you go to the comic store. It all elevates itself. When Absolute started and there was tons of DC selling, it helped Marvel Comics too because people would go in the store and be like, oh, I like Spider-Man.

Like it all helps The rivalries in all of this Is just invented by the internet to get clicks So hearing this I love that it didn't translate to the guys Like I love that there wasn't some sort of moment Where Henry Cavill was like Oh like it clearly is just on the internet

And this is so beautiful to see And it's also so much more realistic If you look at a multiverse story You've got Superman meeting each other And being like what's your universe like? This feels like that to me It's just multiversal That was really pleasant and nice

And great way for us to tease Probably should have done at the top of this We shot some other Superman videos in advance Ranking the Super suits Coy went through it all There's like 17 suits 17 suits We thought it would take 10 minutes Movies and show combination

And ranking the Superman performances At the time of filming this We haven't done it and we might do it Ranking not for sure Ranking the Superman movies And of course the spoiler talk Oh yeah

And we also go over like every cameo Yeah yeah We talked about the future potentialities of yeah because we we did see it we just can't put out opinions i mean the only opinion i was able to put out was because i did that interview which thank you guys for watching so much love there holy shit i should have thanked you guys at the top again first conversation i'm having with anyone today right here i haven't like opened my mouth to talk to anyone today it's just in my head all day without like oh i haven't really like open my mouth of the talk um but yeah

thank you guys for watching an interview i was uh overwhelmed with the love on that and it's great interview. I mean, I sent you my thoughts and I was like really, I really enjoyed watching it because I, when you do something, it's really hard to watch other people do it when you're like, oh, well, it's hard to not what would I do in that situation when it's your favorite thing. Like it's not even coming from a place of like envy or jealousy. It's coming from a place of like I would pivot and I would and then like it's really hard to enjoy it. But when an interview's good, it makes it feel even more special that you're able to just like not yes and like I was able to just watch and I was so happy to see like you in the environment. You in the environment. and see you crush it and to see you, like, thrive in a different way than I would have. And, like, you asking stuff that I wouldn't have is so wonderful. It was great, man. Oh, thank you. I really do appreciate that. I need to hear that thing.

No, it's good, dude. I watched the whole thing. And, yeah, I forgot exactly why I brought the... Oh, yeah, that was the only time I specifically... Because I didn't get the interview offer until after we watched Superman. just to make that clear for whoever that matters too, you know, I would have been honest anyway and I would have had different questions depending on my opinion of the movie. But that was, I did ask like, hey, I did this interview, but we're also under embargo.

Like I say stuff in here that alludes to how I feel pretty clearly. Is that okay? And they said, yeah, because I was part of the press chunk. Got it. They said that was okay, but I cannot elaborate any more than that. Sure I'm excited for a future date. Yeah. Yeah, so keep a look out for more to come in that live stream spoiler talk.

All right. That has some positive news. Down to a bit of a downer for M-Wa personally. Oh, what do you want to talk about? Last of Us or Vin Diesel? I think they both have highs and lows from both sets of quotes. So let's do Vin Diesel. Let's do Fast and Fury because I'm a big fan of family.

Love to hear it, Koi. Love to hear it. How I met my fiancé, that franchise. Where was this Fuel Fest? Yeah, Pomona. I followed the hell out of this. I wanted to go. I'm a, dude, it's like Racer X is real.

I love this, where it was done. I don't, I don't want to get myself in trouble. With VIN? But I'm going to slightly get myself in trouble. Okay. Because he came out and clearly he's not in Dominic Touretto shape. Oh, sure. And I feel like it's important he is, or they lean into Vin Diesel's new body.

Hey, cars get bodywork all the time. there was one comment I saw I am so excited to see where you go right now I am acknowledging that I thought this comment was funny and I get look I know what it's like to be overweight and struggle with weight I just you guys saw me just a few months ago

it was 45 pounds heavy right I know what it's like to struggle with weight and there was one comment that just hasn't left my brain he needs to I don't even know the confidence enjoying this journey

It's something that I remember forgetting it is something like He needs He needs to fast furiously now So messed up I was like That's pretty fucking funny I think as long as he switches to unleaded

He'll be fine I don't even at the time He's filming the movie He'll be ingrained Movies not going out for a long he's got plenty of time yeah and he's been through ups and downs before with it whatever he's got multimillioner he's been vibing also like he's like 50 something yeah freak man like who cares um it's still and and to his credit he's got one of those

bills that even when he is overweight yeah he's still got that like sort of trunk bane thing like he still looks like he can put up a fight and mess you up yeah yeah i still wouldn't fight this vin so even if he just didn't even want to lose weight for the next Dominic Touretto performance. I'm like, yeah, he still looks imposing, though. I do think there was a surprise element that's causing everyone to be like, because we haven't seen him in like a year. So all of a sudden, we were like, what?

Anyway, so he said this affair. He had three conditions. Do you believe that he actually is in control of these conditions? Because the Fast and Furious franchise has been dipping up and down financially and receptional. And like the last one was, it would cost like $2 billion. dollars to it together. There's something stupid. And it's a long delay for a fast sex part two that has very, very clear cliffhangers where the movie doesn't even feel complete. I think he has more

control than the average person because of how long he's been the face of it. And I think that it is, look at the franchise math. I think we talked about this Missed Impossible, where when a new installment comes out, it helps everything that led up to it. I think Fast and the Furious 10 lost money, but it still didn't lose a lot of money because it helped one, two, three. Like, franchise math is different because then your streaming rights were new and then all of your TV rights change and stuff.

But at the same time, he came out and he was like, we're doing fast decks two and three. And I'm sure 100 executives were like, what? So I don't know when he says these things, who's vetted them? I don't know if they become true because he said them. I don't know if his contract's just like,

you're the face of this. Go nuts. I like, I want to see the lawyer side of whatever Vind Diesel's contracts are because I've never seen a front man that isn't the, like,

if Stallone does it with Rocky pre-crete, I'm like, sure, it's your thing. But like, there's a lot of people. It's a family and it's a huge thing. What of this is true? Yeah. And like, I believe when he announces something,

there is a conversation that happened before, but I've also never seen someone come out and say stuff so bold as you're getting a trilogy when no rumor had been of that. And now I'm wondering like chicken or egg. Like are they making it a trilogy? Because he said it was the point. Obviously the movie ends in a way you need another one.

But we haven't heard anything about a three. Or does it cross over with triple X? Is it fast X, X, X. Oh, that would not make sense. Not at all, but I'd watch it. But when does this need to make sense? His twin Xander Cage, I'd watch that dude. It doesn't need to make sure.

Triple X3 and Fast X103. Zander Cage comes in. his family, he's the twin. Dominic can be what Vin looks like now. Yeah. Dominic Torado. Then you can easily distinguish her to the two. And you bring an exhibit because he was an X too.

There you go. But yeah, I don't like one of these statements too. I thought it was Ice Cube. Oh, I think it's just because his name is Exhibit. I thought it was him. You're right. I think it's Ice Cube. Exhibit's back.

Fun fact, I haven't seen a single Triple X movie. What? Dude, they're fun. They're a lot of fun. I would love to watch. Anyway, let's get to the Speaking of Exhibit. Let's get to the conditions that he apparently told Universal.

The first was to bring the franchise back to Los Angeles. I think that's true. Let's do one at a time. I think that's true. I think it's smart. I think you need to have something that feels like a bookend. We love a bookend. We love a bookend.

But also, like, I think the heart of this movie is L.A., and I think they've traveled the world a lot because I think that's fun. I think it makes it like a bond thing. I think after five, they really went that way. But I think if it's going to feel like a conclusion, it should come back home. Mm-hmm. the second was returned to car culture to street racing i mean they announced this at pomona they announced this at a place that is very it it's like the real life street racing

version of the movie but down the street i think that's totally real um when i did fast x trailer press they really focused on car culture and they had they had what was effectively like a comic con for fast x trailer announcement like there was a concert like it was insane it was the coolest thing i'd been to because i'm a huge fan of this franchise like i want this to do well. I definitely think that's something that they need to make sure as a factor. Well, I remember F9 wanting to go back to the past and the roots. Yeah. Even though pacing-wise, I recall it kind of dragging down the experience of the movie, it's clearly within Vin Diesel's desire to go there, considering what that movie was already

exploring. And what the franchise has evolved into, which is not believable. And when there is, I remember in the last movie, there was. was a stunt with a bike person and all they do is go over this little railing like I don't know if you guys remember that but shot it is so small compared to what that movie does but I remember seeing that be like whoa that's crazy because it's real yeah because it looks real and I saw Tokyo drift like maybe just last year for the first time I reacted to it and I was so taken aback by oh my god this looks incredible by how real it is and I and obviously I I think audiences are craving that again, the realism.

Could F1. Like the movie is thriving off of strapping you to the car. Yeah. I think if they can do something that feels more like F1 meets Fast 1, then we're going to be in a spot where it's like, not only are we coming home, not only is the franchise about coming home, not only is it about L.A., but it gives a plausible reason to not have a fiat launch to the moon. Exactly.

You know, like the bigger CGI spectacle stuff, it's not winning over audiences. And it's also costing the movie so much more money. X didn't do well. No, I didn't. And that's because of that, I think, anyway. I think we love the family, but we want them home. All right, here's the third one. The third is the reunion of Dom and Brian O'Connor.

That is what you'll get in the finale. Now in the video, the crowd is freaking out. And I'm more than the side of, ooh. It's the thing I don't like to. Okay, yeah. I mean, it's just going to, it is inevitably going to be, you got two choices. You do some weird AI, deep fake thing with dead eyes.

do whatever you can to make it look best. I know he's got a brother and whatever the hell. He's got two brothers that look a lot like him. Still. And then you have the option to just recast, which no one would want. I do not think they would, like Paul Walker is. No, I think that would be awful. And some people do bring up when they're talking about later movies after Paul Walker's

death of like, don't you think Brian would be here. Don't you think Brian would care? And I think it's one of those movies where the audience is so, aware that Paul Walker died. It's part of the culture of the film. And they do mention Brian in the movies a lot. Yeah, like, Brian's watching the kids. Brian couldn't make it. Like, they keep the presence of him alive. Yeah, that's what I love about them is that Brian is alive, but Paul has passed away. I don't want to see. I love that they finish the role he'd shot most of with his brothers. I thought that was really beautiful. And I thought the end of the film having them split was, was, was, and that's

true. Like, that is to this day, I don't cry often that. That. will not fail to make me cry. It's so powerful. Even just the song I get chills because I associate it with that moment, that would undermine that moment. Yeah, I totally would undermine that moment. And there's like a way you could do it

where maybe people interact with him or he has some monologue to him, but you don't actually see his face, one of those obscuring things. But the way he's talking about is making him sound like a reunion between the two. I'm afraid he's going to be like a co-lead. That's what I mean.

I don't agree with this decision at all. And I feel like seeing the reception from a crowd in the audience can be very misleading on how it actually will go down and I think it would be a very negative response. I think this is an example of us being very deeply in the industry and people are going to love it. You think so? You think people would love that? I don't feel that people will love it. I think that it's ghoulish. I think it is, you know, digging up a dead body and I think it's, I think it's not great, but I think his family is signing off on it. His mom was there for the announcement. His brothers have been there. And I think that the,

I think that the average movie goer is going to be like, what a great use of technology. And like people are, dude, like we are so insular. And even like maybe most of the audience that watches us, this is a movie centric thing. I think people that are like in race culture that grew up with Paul,

they want to see the return of the Busta. And like I love the franchise keeping Brian alive, but I don't want to see him because I'm going to think of Paul not being here. Yeah. And that's going to be painful. Like I, I mean, this is. I this is where I feel like I can blend my personal and my and my movie love but I started

wearing converse because freaking Paul Walker did I lived in Glendale for three years because I knew Paul Walker lived in Glendale just because I thought it was cool when I first moved to L.A. I wanted to be Paul Walker so bad. I bleached my tips in high school. I bought a 95 Honda Civic for like four grand and put five grand into it over the course of two years. I bought the car before I could legally drive bought it at 15 like I worked on a car for a year to like drive it because of Paul Walker. I was obsessed. I got pulled over and so many tickets for underbody LEDs, but this is my franchise because in comic stuff, I grew up reading comics and I became an expert. So it's something that like I got to do for work. Fast and the Furious never felt

like work because there wasn't like a lore to know outside the movies, really. So fast stayed fun. So I love the franchise because it doesn't feel like any part of me is like a historian. So growing up with fast every single one felt like an event it felt special it felt all these things i feel like bringing paul back would feel like the last three or four movies him him being a presence it would undermine so much of the integrity of of keeping brian alive and like i don't i just feel like it's really in poor taste but i don't think the average person will yeah well there's also then i think it puts more holes than the other ones that he's not in i know because then you're like Well, why was any of these missions?

Really? Maybe sitting those kids. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. I don't know. And also like the relationship that they all had with Paul, the man himself. Like, I don't know that Paul Walker would want. Like, he was an environmentalist. I don't know that he'd want all of the resources used to dig up his body and put it in a movie. Like, it takes a lot of CGI and technology that is harmful to the planet. Like, I don't know. I think sometimes in an attempt to honor something, you somehow dishonor something. Yeah. And I think that would, this would be the case. But like, again, his mom and his brothers clearly are excited about it. And I want to respect that they are excited about it. Like, I want to give respect to the family because at the end of the day, if the family's happy, that's as close as we can have to Paul being happy.

And I know I met Cody at the fast trailer event and talk, his brother, Cody Walker. sorry Cody Walker's his brother that does a lot of the work of him in the movies and I met him and I told him how much his brother meant to me like I kind of just did the same thing where I was like this is a lot of data and I'm so sorry and like he sat and listened

he gave me a big hug he thanked me for telling him we talked for like 20 minutes about his brother he told me stories he's like I want you to like feel like you know you got to connect with them even though he's not here and I was like what a selfless thing for you to think about me because you know you're like let me go talk about your dead bro like

it felt weird for me to even approach And I was like, is this the worst thing I could do? And then when he was like, I want you to feel more connected. I was like, what a selfless dude. And that to me is the only good side. Is it feels like his brothers and his mom are trying to give people that cared about the guy a little more of him. And they're trying to rekindle and keep him alive in that way. And if the technology is there, so I'm very conflicted.

But I personally, if his family is not a part of the equation, don't want it. But if his family's involved, I'm happy for them to get. to feel that connection with people. Because they are clearly connected to the audience. That's fair. That's fair. Well, throw it to you guys in the comments. Are you cool with Paul Walker returning in this fashion?

Give your thoughts down below. All right. All right. Last of us. Neil Druckman. Neil Druckman, for you guys who don't know, is the creator of Last of Us Games

1 and 2 he directed an episode of season 1 directed an episode of season 2 directed my favorite episode

of season 2 the flashback episode Joel and Ellie yeah through the years and that's one of my favorite episodes of all time from the show and Last of Us

2 is my favorite video game of all time apparently he has left this series going into season three he says i made the difficult decision to step away from my creative involvement in the last of us on hbo with work completed on season two and before any meaningful work starts on season three not the bullshit they've done so far now is the right time for me to transition my complete focus on naughty dog in its future projects including writing directing or exciting next game intergalactic the heretic project co-creating the show

has been a career highlight it's been an honor to work alongside Craig Mason to executive, produce, direct, and right on the last two seasons. I'm deeply thankful for the thoughtful approach and dedication the talented cast and crew took to adapting the last of us part one and the continued adaptation of the last of us part two.

It's good PR, good PR maneuver. Good plug for the new game too, nice timing. I love that he's like, this is going to get headlines. I'm going to put my new game. Yeah, yeah. And anything that I'm going to, going to say in whatever you say is purely speculation oh yeah i don't know this dude yeah i don't know this guy but i do know fendom now to give some context obviously you've been aware of like backlash this

season has got in bella ramsey discourse and such and i was around when the game was getting the backlash like if you thought like the backlash it's weird because the the backlash that happened was it leaked that spoilers if you haven't seen the show that Joel dies in the game and that at some point you will play as his killer

Abby and in the game he dies very early on and it's so much meaner in the game so much meaner and the character Manny Neil Druckman actually plays

him in the game and like spits on Joel's dead body it's so mean but Ellie is so beloved in that game Nelly is fucking awesome in that game. So then you have this flipper that happens when the show comes out where everyone likes half the people are really responding negatively

to Bella Ramsey's performance. But that game was incredibly polarizing, incredibly divisive. And Neil Druckman had to put up with so much shit for so many years. Then they go to Last of Us season one, which is so loved, so great. and I can imagine for him it's oh this is nice to be back in the positive side of this fandom

yeah you know because as much as there's people like me who like love the game and it considers it one of their favorites I know when you're in that position the the angry people will definitely sour your experience and after writing and directing this this epic yeah a very personal epic of grief and then two comes out and then they do some deviations in the game there's a lot of add-ons and stuff and uh the viewership's dipping the reception's dipping everything about it's dipping and the hate has risen again i totally get why a guy would be like fuck this why would i want to be around for this that's my speculation on why he left i like it could very well actually just be that he left for the game absolutely could just be i think there's a push of i just don't want

to deal with this shit i got to move on with my life because it's been like many many years of last of us because we're just you're just filled with the show time yeah yeah yeah yeah and and for a creative like him i'm sure there's a creative side that wants to creatively do something different and also doesn't want to really live a lot of this bullshit yeah you know you got to go through so that's just my thoughts but why do you think he's do you think there's more to why he's leaving i think i'm only reviewing superman in the future and i don't want to be on the internet and i didn't make it i can't imagine dealing with people about something you created versus something you i can't even say what i thought of superman but i i am excited to to not be excited about something is hard

and so I'd imagine going into something not knowing if you can navigate your baby being ridiculed that'd be hard so I I think the the internet takes a lot of joy away from creation and so if you know it was already vitrolic once I don't know why you'd want to come back

like I don't know what the perk would be I don't see any reason to do season three at all like you know it's just going to be bad so like Caitlin Devere's performance I would never take that role. Yeah. She's fantastic as an actress. And I don't know the character. And there were a few times I was like, I'd like if she was a little bit like more physically intimidating and then people would be like, she's in the game. And I was like, cool. It just feels like that's the

character. But like that was as close to a negative as I got is just like that was my reception from completely being removed from the culture. What she's probably going through, I cannot imagine what it would take to be worth that stress. So if you can not deal with it, like I just, I get, especially you've got other stuff going on. It's not like he's stuck. But again, I don't know the dude uh i would not want to be in that position and it would suck is it's something you created like it's your baby it's it's so it's yours so yeah i don't know i would leave i don't blame him from leaving and you know it might be better for the creatives too uh on on the show like craig mason where he very much loves the game is very clear how much he loves the game

but you know maybe they sometimes they do it i think the show thrives a lot of time when they actually steer away from sometimes I feel like that you would have been better if you're stuck in the game and other times they take creative choices, swings, you gotta take swings. You can't have some success without some failures. Like the Battle of Jackson, not in the game. And it's awesome.

And it's an amazing standout fight. So yeah, that's what I mean like that. That was the show's own creativity, originality right there. And it should be different. I think it's, yeah, it's an adaptation. Yeah, you don't want a translation. It doesn't work.

You just play the game. No. Yeah, and the show leans more into drama than action. Yeah. In the game, you have consistency of action because you're always playing, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I don't plan for leaving. So, like, any rumors about, like, him and Craig Mason have consistently publicly praised each other.

A lot of people know how to play nice. You know, promotion is very much political. So maybe there was behind the scenes trouble or whatever. But I'm just saying, like, I could think of a million reasons why he would suddenly leave. It just, it does seem like it's odd after so much backlash of this season, viewership dip, and now he's leaving the ship. Yeah. It's like it seems like there's so much more than just I've got to focus on this new game.

Sure. But that would be so much better for his soul to do that. I always care about the human element. And if he's going to be happier, I don't know him, but I always want a person to be happier than upset. Yeah. And it just makes more sense to me for a creative to be like, I got to move on. off from this bullshit yeah i don't know what do you guys think are you are you like actually okay with

with him leaving do you prefer it the irony that bella ramsie gets so much more shit than kately dever as you were saying that i was like wow what an ironic thing because abby and the obviously because of what she does in the game yeah that you have to play at her at some point it's uh it like the backlash for the person playing her the character was unbelievable and it just stayed so strong for so long and i went into it man like poor keeland ever poor killing ever and now it's like i rarely hear about people bitching about her it's mainly about bella remsey which is so crazy what a flip the girl in the game was sarah johnson laura bailey played ashley johnson uh you know plays ellie laura bailey plays uh abby i thought it was uh someone the same last name it wasn't okay

yeah strange times strange strange time fun fun easter egg for you it's uh when the dad in season one when this when Pedro kills the dad one of the nurses is the this Laura Bailey the voice actor oh that's cool there to watch her daddy die uh I also think Craig Mazen was he part of the games creation no no no just the show after Chernobyl and then he took all that got it okay so we had nothing that I could also see that being a little easier to to shoulder yeah you're doing your thing yeah you're making your choices without the weight of the past and all the hate you got all right guys leave your thoughts down below um I just wanted to pick Coy's brain here before we're going on some patron cues because it's been confirmed.

Sasha Baron Cohen. When I first heard the rumor years ago about Sasha B. Mephisto, I imagined him in like some terrible suit and it being funny. Really? Yeah. Oh, I always thought it was going to go this way.

I didn't know if it would be like, I was always so curious what his portrayal would be. I thought of Jim Carrey and Robin Williams when they got to do drama and how much they like, you know what I thought it would be more like Briddler. Oh, interesting. I mean, I've seen Sasha Baron Cohen. I mean, I've seen Sasha Baron Cohen. He's in that Aaron Sorkin movie. Yeah. He's great in that Chicago trial, whatever that's called. Chicago 7. Yeah, he's really, really great. That's the, that's the dramatic role I can recall him, man, because he's in Hugo, but he's very comedic in that, even though it's a score-sizing film. So yeah, that's the, and he's in Sweeney Todd, too. He's gives his great performance as well, but again, there's like a humorous element. This is, there's a weight to it. And, It's weird having Mephisto here.

It's like it's such an indication of the times of the MCU in such a strange period, right? It was only dawning on me, I think, last night when do you remember the Wanda Vision time? Some of people hadn't even heard of who Mephisto is, but suddenly everyone heard of who Mephisto is because Mephisto was the main theory. So even if you didn't know Mephisto before people speculate, everyone was suddenly like, I can't wait to see Mephisto, even though I've never heard of this character. character I met last week. Yeah, it was the main speculation didn't show up. And it was the talk of the town.

It was the hype. It was such a hype. And then all these years later, we finally get it. And it's not even like a trending subject. It's sad. And there's a lot of factors. I mean, the reception of the show was not, it's positive.

I would say the reception of the show is positive. But it's not glowing. It's also not a conversation. No, it's not. just a reception. And the view of it was received. Viership's not good. Yeah.

So do you think they'll still use more Sasha Barron Cohen as Mephisto? And if it's not for Ironheart season two, what other capacities do you feel like they'll use Mephisto in? So many places to use him. I think it's interesting. The timing when the show was supposed to come out would have lined up great with multiverse of madness. Exactly.

And I think that was the direction. I think they had pivoted to cosmic after Guardians did well. And they had done a bunch of cosmic stuff. and then when the cosmic stuff stopped doing as well they were going to pivot to a cult and then when the demonic stuff is like it got messy around the time I don't think necessarily that was the problem

but I think it was chicken egg like both things were happening I was like this is a mess but also and so I think if it had come out around the time of multiverse it would have been the biggest conversation it would have been insane it would have been such a moment

I think now they're doing so much damage control and they're trying to really only play their varsity players they're really like we've got the Avengers and we're fantastic for X-Men are coming. They're not really taking the creative, bold, risky swings. I think we would have gotten more things like World by Night.

I think we would have gotten Blade. I think we would have gotten the things that were going to be like darker and more evil feeling. And I think he would have popped up a lot. I think now they're going to only use him when they know they've got a guaranteed thing. I think Midnight Suns is still possible. I think Ghost Rider might get introduced in Doomsday. He could appear in Ghost Rider. I could easily see him tying in.

into the spirit of vengeance powers and like the Pennant Stair and all that stuff. I think it'd actually be a decent villain. Mephisto's in Ghost Rider the movie. Yeah, the second one. I think it'd actually be a good villain for a Ghost Rider film.

And Sacha Barton Cohen was incredible on camera. Like that was such a cool performance. So I could see him being utilized in other things and I could also see there being an element of this story continuing into a young Avengers or a Champions. Champions is like a more hometowny, smaller stakes Avengers

with a younger team, but they do more like local stuff and that could be like the start of it where like there's that deal and you get like redemption arc with her doing good in that team dynamic. But I don't think we're gonna get necessarily a season two as much as I enjoyed the show

me and Aaron had a lot of positive things to say. And I feel like there's also an element of like what's his contract and is it something where we'll see him alongside other villains in Doomsday? Like will we be like, oh my God, all these heroes what if it's like oh we've got all these villains too like they could do the

comic thing like the opening of x-men where there's just rows of both my theory yeah he's gonna be in vision quest oh i'd love that i think they'll bring back scarlet and then there's rumors about them like shooting a potential ending with scarlet which uh i don't i don't know what's fucking real supposed to be the trilogy right like they were saying it was it was one division into agatha into this into division quest that was how they described it i could see that Yeah, I would love that. But I think Mephisto would appear in that. I like that.

You know, because they interested him in a television landscape. It would be the way to pay off all the massive theories. I bet they didn't even consider Mephisto for Ironheart until all those speculation was happening. Right. But then it's great for the narrative. Yeah, exactly. They really did work for what they made the character. I would love to see him and Paul Bettney bounce off each other too.

Actors, like Shakespearean actors acting. I feel like Vision Quest will surprisingly. be a hit. It doesn't sound like the kind of show that would be, but I feel like it will be. I think it's going to be all the things I liked about the first 90% of Wanda Vision. Like it's going to be well written. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be philosophical. Yeah. That's what I mean. I'll think it'll be deeper than people expect. And I think it might, I don't know if it'll be like super integral. I think it would be like Loki. Hopefully. Worth like Wicked Smat. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. Anyway, I'm glad we finally have

Mephisto and I'm glad Sasha Baron Cohen's getting a lot of praise for it. Yeah. He's so good in it. It's such a weird feeling. to be like, damn, it's not as hype as it once was. I am so curious how Fantastic Four does. I'm so curious how this summer does because I looked at all my numbers on my YouTube recently, like the last six months of videos, and my biggest videos are still Thunderbolts and things in the comic book space. But that's my algorithm.

Like, I am a comic book correspondent. I'm someone known for comic books. But still the biggest things were Thunderbolts, and Thunderbolts did not do well. So it was really interesting to see like double to three times the viewership on that than like other movies that I enjoyed even more. I like Thunderbolt a lot. It's my number three of the year. But I talked about a ton of things. Thunderbolts is still my most viewed thing.

And then to see things like Ironheart to see things like Thunderbolts that came out and didn't have the impact, what is the pop culture moment if not like comic book movies have been in power for a long time? I'm wondering how this goes next. like event films feel like all that people are really showing up for and that's really unfortunate there's no way to read the zeitgeist there's no way to create a barbenheimer there's no way to like assume something's going to do well and then you've got stuff like sinners that becomes a big moment and lasts like its legs are forever but theaters can't survive if we're gambling all the time we need to know some things will buoy a three month dry spell. So it worries me that something like Mephisto that three years ago was the biggest

random out of nowhere moment, even last year might have been huge. It coming out this year and not having a conversation around it worries me to the macro as a comic fan, but also as a movie theater fan and as a fan of pop culture, I don't feel like other than reality TV, anything's taken that spot and reality TV is is junk food like there i i personally don't love reality tv like no disrespect if you do but like we need things that feel like they're important sure so i just i mephisto feels like a canary and a coal mine moment where i'm like okay we don't we don't know what's going well and they got to make this stuff and i love it that's selfish but what is the thing if not this i do wonder how things will perform because like i could see superman not performing

that well internationally. Which is interesting. Because we can't know until. I think it's just so like American associated, even though they're going for global appeal. But I don't know. I'm saying that there's a version I could see it not doing it. I think domestically they'll do great.

Jurassic World Rebirth has the second lowest cinema score, which surprised me, considering everyone being looked, it's the best Jurassic World movie. I thought it was fun. I think it's really like a return to some form. Yeah, I haven't seen it, but that's apparently that. Fantastic Four. I'm not really hearing too much hype about record breaking ticket sales

and shit like that. Tickets did go on sale right with that last trailer. So I feel like we should have heard. And it was really easy for me to get good seats. Really? On my favorite, at IMAX Universal,

which is a hard. Yeah, I remember years ago, we would team up and be like, you got on it, you got on it. Frickin three in the morning sometimes, five in the morning,

and you keep getting locked out and everything. Things would crash. We were on each other's entourage just so one of us would get through. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I buy multiple shows just in case.

And, yeah, now it's, I remember being late. I was like, oh, I should have it hours ago. Oh, it's a pretty good amount of availability. I'm just worried. And this is just a universal concern. Like, it's even outside the comic book space. Yeah. You can't count on a sinners because they're going to try to manufacture another one.

But Ryan Coogler is Ryan Coogler. I know the next Ryan Coogler film I'm showing up for, but I don't know what they try to approximate sinners into. And I just worry about the late. landscape of entertainment if we keep letting things that are variables and or guaranteed junk food win. I think re-releases are a great thing. I love it. I think re-releases are doing so much better numbers and they used to, like re-releases used to not do well. Yeah. And now I think movies are kind of thriving off of re-release. You hear they're re-releasing Spider-Man in 4K and

new cut. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So excited. Oh, I know. Like I'm there. I know about that. Ninja turtles are re-releasing and I was like I was planning to react to it because I only saw it like when I was a child and I don't recall it. So I was like oh it would be cool to react to it and I'm sure they're re-releasing these turtles. Jaws. The Matrix and Cosm which we need to go to. I did get

tickets for Olivia and I for a date. Going without me. Maybe. I see how it is. The four of us should go. I don't do much dates. I invited you. You did. Like very specifically. I said this needs to be a me in youth. I literally made it like a minute already without me.

and see all of it. I had to leave for work. I didn't see all of it. I didn't get to stay for the movie. I had to go. I thought you did. No, I saw like half. Oh. But that's why I said we have to go because I had to leave. I thought you were. I was like, oh, this won't be a big deal. It's going to be. Literally, a bro date was just broken on camera. We got to do it. Because it's like, it's like both of your how many of favorite movies? I'll look up the day and we'll get you and on you. I think it'll be like a fun like thing for us to do. Did you do the dinner thing or just the there's a vegan option. I thought of you. I even texted you that. I can't. I can't. Eat food.

Comes in here, body shaming of Vin Diesel, reveals body to smearthia. Literally go to anything with free-packed food. You do. I've seen it. Everything I go to be. Man brings his carrots. Free-packed food.

Freaking tubs of yogurt. Guys, losing 45 pounds is not easy. Yeah, and I still got more goals to get through on it. So, yeah, I'm like, picking up the dinner and drinks. It's a cool part of the experience. I bet it is, boy. But yes, re-releases our dope, and I think it's effective. I did get Jaws tickets on IMAX.

Yeah, it was like, I've never seen it in the theaters, and I thought it would be cool to watch that. I know Olivia won't watch me. You one of you guys can come with me? So Jaws? I've never seen it in theaters either. Yeah. When is it?

I don't know. In a box. We'll figure all this out off camera. Yeah, Olivia won't watch it. She doesn't like Jaws? No, no, no. It's like she is so much of an animal lover. She can't watch anything happen to animals.

Interesting. I mean, that makes sense. She is, yeah. She'd be on Jaws side. She's high side. You don't need a bigger boat. Kill those humans. 100% be on the shark side.

Yeah. I know her too well. Bruce is the protagonist of her. Is this a shark being a shark? It's in their water. It's not like, oh, I'm crossing the line here. Like, the shark is being a shark. His turf, the ocean.

Yeah. Like, they're invading, and it's the part of the chain. Yeah. Anyway, are you going to join Koi and I have the Cosm event and interrupt our double date? Yeah. Let us know. Go on the fever app. Do it.

All right, let's send this off some patron cues. Pavil Katzmarik. So I know you guys can't comment on whether or not you like Superman, but do you know when the reaction review embargo lifts Tuesday or Monday's social media, Tuesday's review?

So funny. I've been so nervous to say anything that. Someone asked me that and I was like, I like blank face to that. I'm like, is that public? But yeah, I'm hoping. I don't know.

Let's see if I get in trouble. Let's find out together. I'm also curious how this whole thing works because in the last episode you said you can't even allude to having an opinion but then the James...

Okay, I get what you're getting out here. Yeah, like I said earlier in this video, I specifically, I looked out for this. I bet I'm one of the few who is like, hey, I want to be respectful. Like me, Warner Brothers. Please love me. Love me. Look at me looking out

for a review bar. Dude, I think that's such a good bare minimum. I know people don't... I think it's really interesting that people get called bootlickers for supporting a studio when they're making art. I think that there is a problem with business and art combining, but if you like movies, you should respect that they come from a place. Like, I think it's really interesting how people are like an anti-studio movement. I think they're

like, if you don't like a boss or if you don't like an individual, that's one thing. But when a studio is tens of thousands of people and they've given you art, I think respecting that is important. Like, it's a weird thing when people get, like, antagonistic about certain elements, but not others. I think, like I've said in a much, much earlier podcast, wrestling era, I think really contributed to that. Yeah. Hating Vince McMahon, but being part of the show. Yeah. Because you're right.

Like, it's not cool to, like, love Warner Brothers, but it's okay to love the movies. Right. You know? And, like, they don't realize that it's not just a few people. It's all the PR and it's all that, like, there's thousands. of jobs that you're making stressful if you don't do a thing. And that's why I don't understand people like wanting to

spoil and wanting to leak is it's like not only you're affecting the art and the artist, but you're affecting everyone. Yeah. It's not just Zaslov. Right. It's so many people. It's not just Iger. Yeah. So crazy to me. A lot of people there. But then they're like, yay, government officials and the cops

and I'm like, what is the hypocrisy? I don't know. Daffmer, thank you for the question and for being a royal reject. I hope you're all doing well this I'm doing okay. Boy and I are both lethargic. My question is that for the DC films as it grows in characters in universe,

how far along should they wait before introducing things like magic? When I saw Dr. Fate in Black Adam, I was so excited to see what DC would do with their magic users versus what Marvel did. And not you're saying this. I'm like, oh, you know, a good Superman villain would be a magic villain.

It is a weakness of his. My favorite magic, and then, you know, Supergirl There's a planet they go to That was specifically designed with magic To take on Superman Yeah This is me just trying to insert

I've made progress He's read more How far are you in? Fine You read one this week I'm reading I'm leaving here at like 10 to p.m. to midnight

Every day And I get I eat dinner so late And I like As one of the more I'm going to read a copy Yeah I'm not really like like, yeah, it's been hard. But I'm enjoying it, though.

That's more important than Russia. It gets better every comic. I'm just trying to finish it before the live stream. Anyway, my favorite magical character has always been Dr. Faye. Although I wouldn't know what this universe is justly would look like having a character tied into the mystic side of things could add an interesting flavor to this team. Go watch the words. It's fully transparent.

I don't even recall if there's a magic thing. in Superman honestly but yeah I think the is there anything in the lineup that's magic

that was announced I'm totally blanking on I will say comfortably that James Gunn is someone that called it gods and monsters

and is very intentionally world building I would be surprised if James Gunn didn't want to start as many elements in the first few projects as possible

right? Because like you're not doing the thing that Marvel had to do, which was like spoon feed you weird stuff. You can go crazy because we're used to it. The average person, like not comic people, don't know

Superman is DC and Spider-Man's Marvel. They just go like, oh, it's a comic movie. Like, I had my grandma on Marvel movie news way back in the day when I first started hosting like way back in the day. It was called Marvel movie news. I think it was a decade ago. I had my grandma on. And I was trying to like make sure she got some camera time because like this was her

first time on a TV show and it was really cute. She was so excited. So I was like, oh, my mom, what's your favorite like Marvel character like anyone who's your favorite and she was so proudly like you know Superman and described Superman and I was like people don't know there's a difference so the beauty of what James Gunn gets to do is we've already been running in this Marvel world and now DC can be like sprinting so if I was going to start a universe I would have a lot of different things that way when it comes together it feels natural because you've already been living in it so I imagine just from James Gunn being like a trauma guy and doing weird stuff with guardians I think magic would

a factor. I also know he loves Constantine and I want Constantine so selfishly that's my guy. Like I want Constantine as soon as possible. I don't know if we're getting them but I know James is a fan of the character so I'd love to start there. Weirdly if there's one thing I could see working in Matt Reeves's real life

thingy, it would be magic. Really? I could weirdly see magic work. I could see specifically Constantine working like a British guy in a trench coat that just does stuff and you're like what? Yeah. But like I couldn't see Zatana. I could see Zatana working in the DCU and not Oddly, I could see Constantine working in masks.

I mean, Wonder Woman can have characters of magic. A lot of things that are just announced. I'm looking at Swamping, for sure. Preacher Commando's had magic. Oh, yeah, we've seen magic. We have seen magic. I get it, but it's different with the live action. Yeah, but you're right.

But that kind of speaks to what I was saying. Like, out the gate, we had so much in creature commandos. That is, so it's already done. Does the authority have any magic? The authority has magic elements, but none of the main characters are purely magic. Yeah. Okay. Cool. But yeah, for a villain, I mean, like the obvious choice for people will probably be like Brainiac for the follow up, but magic would be a great thing for Superman to battle against.

And a great way to introduce magic. When I said earlier, I had like a whole pitch in mind for justice league level threat. Like Braniac is one of my, like I would use him as a as a huge being. But if you have a, but you have a magic villain for for Superman for, for Justice League. That it makes a reason why you need a leak. Right, because Superman couldn't handle it on his own. And also, like, Batman being frustrated by the lack of, like, logic would be fun. Because he's like, what does this mean? What do you mean, magic?

But we, I mean, John and I watch Brainiac. And, like, that introduction, I think that's the most I've seen John have a reaction to a new character. To see him discover Brainiac was awesome. Yeah. I was bringing in John for a moment. It was awesome. Confirmed. John liked it.

It was pretty dang awesome. Like, he's such a, I think, important character we haven't seen a lot of. And for a lot of people who were introduced to Superman, via Superman the animated series, he is the start of the whole show. And he's a through line villain. Also, if there's anything that they're going to do kind of like Marvel, like, I've noticed Marvel always has the Spider-Man villain. They didn't use last in their next iteration. Like, we almost had Vulture in the Sam Ramey Spider-Man 4. Vulture showed up in Spider-Man 1.

Like, there's a lot of, like, Craven was almost the villain in No Way Home. Instead, he got his own movie. If D.C. ever wants to, like, test, like, do we like this? we've been crying for Brainiac since Tim Burton almost used him. The Kevin Smith script, like that's one of the most famous unmade movies. I feel like Brainiac has like the opposite of Mephisto where

nerds are like, which time? And it's like, overdue. It's also obviously doable. And it's also so topical. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the most topical. Yeah. All right, yeah. That'd be cool. That'd be cool. Jay Rustin, thank you for the cue.

This is a failure of my end. I'll just say that. It's July 3rd, which is more Sandman from Netflix, which this will be watched by the reject crew. More importantly, we're cats like Superman because of the focus on the dog, but no guess. Superman likes all animals. So I think it'll be totally okay. Yeah, I completely drop the ball on, I'm the one here who's usually the one on top of like VODs and what's coming out on shows and release dates and what we have to do I'm crafting the upload schedule and stuff so I completely sometimes there's so much coming out and I miss something and I completely missed on Sandman so we are

not prepared at all to cover Sandman so we're not covering it unfortunately and there's such a limit on bandwidth with people here at the moment so I'm sorry we're not going to be covering Saman well that's not a great time to be covering anything Neil Gaiman anyway I didn't even think about that but yeah sure I mean but Neil there's so many but like how we talked about with the studios

it's like beyond Neil Gaiman the rest of the but I also don't know if the show we didn't know it was coming out Is there even hype around that ever jacked shit about it? Like Netflix wants it to be buried

If we didn't know that could also be part of the factor of like it getting buzz Let me check one thing here because Netflix has a huge YouTube channel so I'm gonna see what the trailer views are oh these are

terrible views Oh, that's terrible. The official trailer only has 1.6 million views. Two months ago, the date announcement trailer has 840,000 views. This is really, really bad for Netflix. That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't know if it was coming out this year. Let's give you some frame of reference.

Netflix has 31 million subscribers on their YouTube channel, and a lot of times you can gauge interest by how many views a trailer has. especially for a streaming thing uh that is awful yeah because it's not like a you know a one to one but it's streaming is on the same interface as the network so it's like kind of more applicable that's crazy i mean yeah like sort of game season three trailers um like the first one has uh 24 million views you know and the shows a phenomenal it's so it's huge yeah but i know it's like a big comparison uh but anyway yeah oh my god i feel like the show's like gonna you might been it might have worked out in your favor.

You might have, no one might have watched it. You might have saved some stress in the edits. That's true. That's true. But yeah, that's it for today. Coy, any final thoughts? I think this is our last show before Superman. So I want to thank everyone for watching all the stuff John and I have been doing for

the animated stuff. I want to thank you in advance for watching all the Superman stuff Greg and I are putting out after the release. We've never done a pre-taped episode. So next week, you guys, checking that out means a lot to me in advance. Usually we film these, like, within hours of it going up. But I most of all want to thank you guys in the comments on this channel and this particular

show, I actually read them because it seems good. And I appreciate you guys reminding me that being open on the internet and being more available, like telling stories about me versus just like anecdotal news and keeping it surface, I like reading the comments here because it feels like the place I am the most me. So thank you for the most part. Receiving that and putting it back out there in a positive way, so just thanks. It's really nice.

And I want to say sincere, genuine, heartfelt things, too. He's got them. He's just, what I said. They're in there. Control C. John, thanks for setting all this up and joining us for the last 10 minutes.

You did say the things, you guys, it's like you're riding your bikes all on your own. We did. Actually, yeah, I want to say John set up the studio so well that in a panic, we are so stacked and to speak to the Sandman, think, we're so stacked that John was actively filming a reaction during us

setting up and it was already so set up that we could go like, boop, poop, poop, and hope we were good and then it was. I'm not going to lie, there's a part of my brand, like, I hope we're in focus, and I hope that everything was recorded. We checked like four times. I moved the chair to check yours. He's like, let me check you again. We moved the chair. Yeah, but it should be fine. It should be fine.

But thank you guys for joining us. And we'll see you next week and keep a look after the live stream. Hope you pop it. Yeah, live stream next Saturday. and the Chiff. It's a METY's an METI of

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