The Reel Rejects - SUPERMAN SAGA ANNOUNCEMENT! Brainiac, Spider-Man 4 Updates, Deadpool In Avengers Secret Wars, & MORE

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

We’re LIVE breaking down James Gunn’s Superman Saga announcement, brand-new Spider-Man 4 filming updates, and the rumors swirling about Deadpool joining Avengers: Secret Wars! James Gunn revealed ...yesterday that the follow-up to 2025’s Superman is already in development with a completed treatment, teasing a bigger, bolder next chapter in the “Superman Saga.” We’ll dive into what this means for the DCU timeline, Peacemaker Season 2 connections, and how it sets up future DC stories. On the Marvel side, Spider-Man: Brand New Day continues filming its massive armored truck chase scene in Glasgow, with new set photos, mystery logos, and more Venom/Scorpion teases from Michael Mando. Plus — is Ryan Reynolds’ Deadpool really on track to appear in Avengers: Secret Wars after Doomsday? We’ll discuss the leaks, insider reports, and fan theories driving the conversation right now. Grab your popcorn and join the chat for news, breakdowns, and live reactions! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Oh hungry, oh Henry! right let's do it let's do it let's be live how are you feeling so overwhelmed how are you um over stimulated overwhelmed and overwrought i closed my eyes for three minutes and took three minutes of deep breaths so i feel good good i feel good all right yeah pretty good i got diagnosed with vestigular vertigo and uh i didn't realize that some of my anxiety was physical i thought i was just freaking out all the time but it turns out the world's fighting me i'm sorry Like it's actually doing this all the time And I thought I was just like always in a state
Starting point is 00:01:01 But it turns out It's physical and mental That sounds nauseating as shit Yep, they gave me like five different prescriptions I'm sorry So I've been navigating the last like two years Like why does everything feel weird It turns out
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Starting point is 00:01:23 And I was like That seems like a reasonable thing And then I got my prescription They were like And this and this And I was like, oh, God. So I feel you. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Well, I'm in touch with our feelings. You know, Yolo. All right. Hey, guys. We're live today. It's been a little bit of a chaotic week. I'm not going to divulge everyone's personal information. We are aware Superman is coming.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We should talk about it. Superman coming to digital. Tomorrow. Remarkably early. Yeah. Normally it's 45 days. So I estimated it because I, you know, I monitor the upload schedule and plan for like, when will I just come out?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Normally it's 45 days. It moved on my schedule. six times it is not 45 days 30 or something it's a short window for a huge summer blockbuster and i have thoughts about i have strong thoughts i have i have pros and cons thoughts yeah yeah i have a little hybrid of both uh james gun has announced the superman saga which i really think they will be closely adapting a run that i recently read and we got spot a man avenges dooms thy and then maybe a couple of other news things. And of course, we're doing a live today because, yeah, there's people who have some really sick family. Some people here are really sick. Editors are not available.
Starting point is 00:02:38 It's a little crazy. That's what I remember now. Yeah, we didn't talk about this last week. My bad, man. Times a flat circle. So we're here. We're like, well, we got to do it in some way. We can't miss another week. And so thank you guys for being here. Last time we were here doing a live, you guys contributed so much of the super chats and stream labs. It's a great way to support here if you can't that's okay uh all that matters is that you engage with us in some way leave a like leave some comments but super chats and stream labs are of course welcome don't in a stream without covering every single one of them let that breath sink in how many people we got in this chat for this spontaneous we got 300 people yes i did shave my head i forgot about
Starting point is 00:03:18 that uh i forget news of the week i forget that when you shave your head that's all everyone's talking about almost 10 years since i shaved my head i mean you just shave your head people will constantly talk about how you shaved your head yeah i see this i'm like oh yes that's right i'm about seven pounds away from shaving my head i'm very jealous you should go for i'm as soon as i can well last time i shave my head i was fat that looks now i'm fucking getting buff i think i think it looks good on the right head shape and that can be when you're overweight or underweight yeah i think i could pull off both weirdly yeah yeah i feel good i saw you 10 years ago the shaved head no you didn't it saves time it's efficient the shave saved
Starting point is 00:03:56 That's what I like to say. All righty, let's swing into action. Thank you all for being here. And let's mix it up also, by the way, too, for, you know, if people who do contribute superchaps and stream labs, let's get some variety in there. You know, other stuff beyond comic book news. We will embrace any comic book that you want to talk about,
Starting point is 00:04:14 but anything you want to talk about. Let's go into it. Let's make this a little bit crazy today. Koi, Coyson, yes, the Superman digital release. Yes. What the heck is going on? I don't like it. You don't like it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You know why I don't like it? Why don't you like it? Very personal reasons. Okay. Tara has COVID right now. Okay. You're like, I won't divulge until the news story. I mean, she's been on her Instagram stories.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Tara has COVID. We've been doing all these DC movies and lead up. Whenever something wasn't a hit or underperformed drastically, we were like, it's fine. It's all in lead up to Superman. And now Superman's coming out, and it doesn't look like we'll get our reaction out on time. And I want to stomp her head in for getting sick. Yeah, it's her fault. Yeah, it's her fault.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Blame the victim. No, I called her yesterday. I was like, if you really can't do it, it's totally cool. And we could zoom her in when she's ready. Yeah. But there's that. I want to hear your thoughts first. I have thoughts later.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I think that a movie as big and important as Superman is something that needs to buoy the theatrical system. It did really well And it's had incredible legs I think week to week It's held on way better Than anyone is anticipating Like its second week drop Was so beautiful
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah sorry Domestically I should say Because theatrically Internationally was not as strong But week to week It's really had incredible legs It's actually had better legs Later on than even that first week drop
Starting point is 00:05:43 Like the drops are negligible Which is incredible And I think we need to start Training people in the other direction I think we need to be working on attention span extension, not anything to rush it out. Now, I know the reason it's out early. Like, there's an actual reason. Why? James wanted it out before Peacemaker was out. Peacemaker was supposed to come out in September. Peacemaker got moved up to late August outside of James's control.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And thus, he wanted Peacemaker to be able to be viewed after you've guaranteed to have seen Superman because it does directly follow Superman. So I get the reason of the logistics. I wish then it came out like the 20th. Like I get it. But at the same time, I care more about the exhibition industry than I care about anyone's studio. I love working with DC and I love Superman the movie. I love James as a director, human being, a writer, etc. But I care move over at movie theaters than I care about anyone but my family. And I think the movie theater industry needs things like Superman. Hey, you're right. I agree. And, you know, we did a podcast last week, which I was met with so much love with. Oh, that was only last week. That's why I keep
Starting point is 00:06:51 being confused. Yeah, you having anything negative to say, unacceptable, Greg. This is crazy because I'm still of the mindset of like, there are movies that pull it off and our successes in Marvel and DC need to do that too for what they fund these movies with. If they're going to fund it that much, they have to be able to pull the profit margin of like a Lilo and Stitch and Mike. That's just right I stand. Anyway, which is reasonable. It's just, it's funny that you get hate for having a perspective that is articulated and I get hate for loving. Yeah. Like anytime I say anything positive, Jill, anything you say anything critical, it's like, I think he's just being negative.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You're turning to the crowd, no matter what Koi says, you're just negative. Yeah, for Superman digital release, what I think they're doing right, because I really, the theatrical window at theaters is obviously having such a tough time. And I've talked many times here about how I think studios need to propel the digital release when they do have it, when they have the video on demand. Do I think it's coming out too soon? Yes, I think it's coming out way too soon. And it could be an interesting test for something that is doing well in the theaters and that is doing well on digital. It could be an interesting test to see. Yeah, if like maybe five nights or if, you know, re-releases right now, like John went to see Shin Godzilla yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm seeing Shin Godzilla tonight. Nice. And at a re-release, I'm going to the re-release of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'm going to the re-release of Black Swan on IMAX. I'm going to the re-release of Jaws on IMAX. I'm bringing this up because Superman is not. not a re-release, but let's say someone watches it at home on digital, and they're like, I've got to see this on the big screen.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And it could propel that. I'd love that. Secondly, when things go on video on demand, people generally will view that as a failure. I guarantee you right now that that's probably part of the conversation is like, oh, they must be putting in on video on demand because it's failing. That's the general go-to subconscious optics when it comes to video on demand. Right. And that is not the case because the movie is actually performing pretty well domestically.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I like how they are hyping up the video on demand release them. You know, they don't really do that. Even James Gunn's participating. They're really hyping up that you're going to be able to get it on digital. It's an exciting time. You can get it on digital. And more studios need to know how to do that. Warner Brothers is kind of freaking annihilating it.
Starting point is 00:09:13 They have six films in a row opening over 40 million. Yeah. And they got original horror film, like, weapons. They're kind of crushing the horror market. Mortal Kombat's next? Mortal Kombat's next? Yeah. I think they're about to have a seventh in a row.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. I think what they're doing. It went from just ruling the day to now he gets a weird too long of chant. Because I don't think Peacemaker would hurt by coming out in September. But I think it will hurt the exhibition industry to have yet another thing rushed out. I wonder what the numbers are because I don't feel like I was fortunate enough to watch the first episode of Peacemaker. And like, I don't think you need to watch Superband. I don't think it's as mandatory. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:10:07 It's clearly following it. But it's not like you wouldn't understand what's going on. Yeah. Like whatever's already in the trailers. Those elements are clear. And even if you just watch the trailer, it's not like you're. confused in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's my point. Yeah. So, because people saw the trailer for peacemaker before the Superman movie even came out. Right. And it wasn't like,
Starting point is 00:10:25 who are these people? Yeah, it makes it pretty clear in it. And so I don't. I think James is a guy that likes the comic book energy of issue one, issue two. And this in his mind is the next issue in his saga. So he wanted the other one available. Uh-huh. I just think because it's being rushed to video on demand, they're also not having directors commentary, Guy Greel, or a lot of the things on the Blu-ray. It's only on digital. And that hurts my two favorite industries. That hurts the exhibition industry and the physical media industry.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So it just, I don't think VOD, when you get it this quickly, is fair to the industries that need it. Yeah. And it's not like they need to put it out right now when they don't have much competition. Right. It's a quiet August. Like the end of August has caught stealing, but between now and then, I'm like, chilling. By the way, guys, just want to throw this out there.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Did you see weapons? No, I'm scared of it. I want to, but I'm scared. Okay. No spoilers. I organized to be able to make sure that other people could host for it. Because Olivia never wants to go to the theaters, but she specifically said, I want to see weapons. Cool, man.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I should go watch weapons. Went yesterday, late last night, like a 9.30 p.m. showing. First off, way too many fucking trailers. There's 30 minutes of train. on the thing now. They say it on the AMCA list. They're like 25 to 30 minutes. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It was a solid 30 minutes of trailers. I thought it used to be 20. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? Anyway, it's amazing. That is an incredible movie. It is.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And she also never, that was one of the things with hers. Like we watched so many horror movies and she never get scared. There were moments where she was truly terrified. It is a really freaking good movie. You would love it. I know you get scared of a few moments, but I think you genuinely appreciate the storytelling and the filmmaking.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It is remarkably impressive. I'm in like have kids soon mode. So I don't want fresh imagery of children running into, like the idea of losing a child is something I fear without children. And I know I want kids soon. So I feel like it's the timing of it. Like I'm planning my wedding. And soon after wedding want kids.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So right now I'm in like, who photographer? And I'm like, children dying maybe. Yeah. That seems heavy. but I love Brolin and I went and I was one of the testers for Barbarian. Oh, no way. Like I was part of how the edit happened. Like they filmed to me on a GoPro reacting to Barbarian that shaped the edit for Zach
Starting point is 00:12:57 Craigger. Zach Craigger doing Resident Evil Next. I'm so hyped. I've met him a few times because of the thing I did for Barbarian. He is so passionate and he cares so much about every detail and he really wants to do a Batman universe film, not a Batman movie. He wants to do a movie set within Batman about a henchman. Can I tell you one tiny thing that's not a spoiler?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Please. This is cool to me especially, guys. By the way, in the comments, live stream chat. You got to ask this. And John, I'm going to ask you for feedback on some comments here. John's here. John said everything up. Thank you, John.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I want to know, do you guys think if Superman is releasing too early on digital? Secondly, did you guys see weapons? And if you haven't, why not? There's a moment where, because, you know, Josh Brolin is one of the parents. And he's laying in a bed, his kid's bed. which has it's all it's a Batman blanket and it's the
Starting point is 00:13:51 it is specifically the dark night so you got your moment returns Batman the one that you want him to play so bad man he should be playing and I'm like it's happening I see it that's amazing yeah I was so excited like is this could this be is this setting up my Easter egg for the future all right
Starting point is 00:14:09 we're going to let's talk about the wait John and what are people saying in the chat about that yeah one bit of feet of Feedback. Anthony Cheesman says Barbarian was a lot scarier, and it wasn't even that scary. And then Ryan Barrett said, or that good. And then the real NB said, Greg got a haircut. All right. Solid feedback. There's no opinions about the Superman Digital release? Too early. They're starting to come in now. Yeah. Kenya King says too early.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Way too early, says Dan Fee 900. Dan V900 saw weapons. And that's what he had to say about it. too early on digital not seen weapons because I'm scared this is Kayla Leanne yeah a lot of people
Starting point is 00:14:53 were basically saying way too early and that they saw weapons yeah Superman rushed before we go into the Superman saga let's mix this one up today
Starting point is 00:15:04 let's embrace the live John let's go through some a few of the super I can preview that some super chats came in um they have yeah let's let's go through some of them then we're going to talk about this i have some pretty strong opinions about the superman saga what i really believe they'll be doing i'm curious
Starting point is 00:15:20 i think i i think i know the direction all right i think i figured it out coy i'm curious i'm curious which run you feel is being adept i'm pretty confident about this i can't wait for you guys to hear my pitch i'm really hyping this up it's probably the most obvious pitch in the world by the way it's not that original i want it probably involves the villain you want and the complete obvious unoriginal. Mine is so unoriginal but I'm so excited to act like. But it's yours and you're going to claim it on video on live. Who does
Starting point is 00:15:48 who we got first, John? Who's our first super chat of the day? First super chat of the day. We got two eyes. Thank you so much two eyes. Hey buddy. Coy. When was slash
Starting point is 00:16:04 what was the first ever reboot event in the comics? When was the first time Marvel or D.C.? Timely slash Atlas, realize the homework is too big. In the comic books, I mean, when they rebranded from Atlas, there was a reboot of a kind. Timely didn't really have the same characters when it became Marvel, so that was kind of safe. They do soft reboot each age. Like, after Gwen Stacy died, I consider that the end of the Silver Age going into the Bronze Age,
Starting point is 00:16:34 but I wouldn't consider that like a Canon reboot, but you'll note they change characters to have arcs that feel very approachable. Like brand new day isn't a reboot, but you know that you can read starting a brand new day and going from there. I'd say the first big canon reboot of an entire universe that I would say was like, the entire universe would be crisis.
Starting point is 00:16:54 The first crisis event, no character was left behind. Every single character got addressed. Some characters never came back. There's a really interesting thing that happened with the Comics Code Authority in the 40s and 50s was really puritanical and really wanted books to be almost propaganda for like the war effort and for the American way
Starting point is 00:17:15 and a lot of very like nuclear family stuff and when magic got brought in and certain things that made them uncomfortable they used reboot events to call characters entirely so there would have been more like people of color same-sex relationships magic and things that aren't your you know puritanical view of America earlier but they were able to be like oh those characters don't work, rip them from existence. And DC actually has in their vaults a tome of comics that never saw the light of day
Starting point is 00:17:46 that were fully written and illustrated. They got wiped out. So, uh, crisis events are a way to keep continuity going for characters do know, but also it's a way to clean up editorial if you've got certain, uh, dictators. So, uh, the biggest one
Starting point is 00:18:00 ever was, was crisis. There's actually a comic that I talked to Greg about, um, whatever happened to the band of tomorrow is a comic I think about all the time because it's Alan Moore getting to write the last Superman comic and it's actually canonically the last one because that Superman is not our Superman anymore it was a different Superman from another era so he got to write a story and it was like iconic artists and anchors of the time um that ends Superman and that's that's pretty unprecedented so i'd say the crisis event wow damn you are encyclopedia of
Starting point is 00:18:29 knowledge some that was some deep cuts yeah but i yeah that's pretty pretty impressive i'm fascinated by um that with film and comics because it's art being sensitive in a way that's like creative it got me thinking that when they do whatever this new reset is or something for the MCU i don't think they should call it phase five or six no they should call it something else yeah they need to not call it the MCU will have concluded they needs to the text of it needs to convey that this is a new start and that people can come in fresh and i think james already took chapter one right like i think that was part of the conversation so yeah they got to find a way to demark their their eras yeah all right Let's take one more. Then we're going to talk about the Superman. We know we've got a bunch that have come in already. What we normally do is we actually go through our main stories, and then we take all the super chats.
Starting point is 00:19:18 But we wanted to mix it up a little bit today. What's the next one we got today? All right. Next one comes from Dishun Cheney. Dishun says this. Is that a taper fade, Greg? I don't know what the hell that is. I appreciate the super chat.
Starting point is 00:19:37 all I know is my wife never wanted me to shave my head. So I hit her up on Monday or Tuesday and I said, I want to shave my head and I want you to do it. And when I told her that, she was down. It's all the same length. It's not a taper. I see it. I got a video. It's a one length. It's a whole video that I'll be posted on
Starting point is 00:19:53 Instagram, hopefully by the weekend of her shaking my head. Social content. Yeah, man. It's going to be great. Follow us at Real Rejects. Did you cry while she shaved your head like in every movie? I did for a brief thing. She, IJane. Yeah. Turning a trading botage. Thank you guys for the super.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Let's go back to the regular. We'll go through the mall. Wait, wait, wait. That one seems relevant to what we're doing. We got a good one. Segway in here. Saint 53. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Saint. Saint has this to say. Even if Superman 2025 didn't hit it for you, it feels good to see DC getting a general win after being stomped on by Marvel for 10 years. I suppose so. It does feel good to have, and I won't even.
Starting point is 00:20:36 compare it to Marvel, I just feel good to have a DC movie get a win. Because I feel like even when Aquaman made a billion dollars, no one really celebrated. It was just like, it's crazy. It made a billion. Like, they didn't have a sense of joy. There is an absolute joyousness to Superman's victories to me. Yeah. Well, especially for true comic book fans, I think there's a lot of resonates a lot with the feeling of, it is one of those movies where the emotion overpowers a lot of the criticism for many people. Not everyone, obviously, but for many people. And that's kind of what counts. And you see it, I really do believe results is the name of the game. And in a time when the theatrical window is struggling, it's when you're seeing how
Starting point is 00:21:14 well Superman is actually doing domestically and how it consistently does well. And people are excited about the future of it. It's a really big one for them. It's also the most I've seen a movie ever affect the comic book industry. Yeah. Ever. Like of any Marvel DC anything. Like it is people going to the comic store. Yeah. And that's been amazing. At Comic Con, I heard people going like, oh, I like the Superman movie, what should I buy to vendors? It was incredible. Yeah, especially because it seems truly inspired and based on the comics that people want to get more of it now. Yeah. And, you know, I do liken it to how, like, TikTok has weirdly caused the resurgence of book, like they have book talk. And I think it's in some way that kind of feeds the cycle a little bit more of people
Starting point is 00:21:52 wanting this horse material. Yeah. So let's talk about the Superman saga. Yeah. What are your thoughts? Well, I read Superman Woman of Tomorrow. And while this While Supergirl will clearly be a strong inspiration of that, Lobo's not in it. So they're definitely going to do their own mixture of stuff. He was in the original draft. They took him out. Oh, I didn't know that. Tom King had Lobo in a version before it went to press.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So Tom King had originally had an element that had, I think it was going to be a longer series, but he had wanted Lobo in it. And he actually credits the editor for taking him out so it's more of her story. But he loves Lobo. So he is glad they didn't have him in the comic, but he's very glad he's come back in the movie because that was his original idea. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Just a fun fact. So that plot is going to be new for this. And recently I read a run, the Jeff Johns run of Superman Brainiac, which it's co-led by Superman and Supergirl. Yeah. And in that narrative, Brainiac is the one responsible
Starting point is 00:22:57 for the Krypton destruction. And Kara is extremely traumatized. at the very idea of Brainiac coming in and having to contend with that. I feel like if you're doing the Superman saga, if you're leading to, what was the one potential one that we're talking about? The super family was the big rumor going on?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah, he's just been saying super family, but I think that's not the time. I think he's been vague and people took it as like. Yeah, I think that would be the best run where you can get. Because what was cool about, and also in that run, Superman and Lois are already together, like how they are in the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And it seems like it would be the perfect way to introduce Brainiac that would also not just be, we need the super people to team up, but have it be a personal linkage, because we don't exactly know what happened to Krypton. So I suspect that in Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, they will take the version of Brainiac destroying Krypton. That way it's something more personal rather than like, there's a problem with our planet, you know. And I think they'll adapt all that, because there's this one chapter in all the Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow that does do the whole backstory of what happened and how long she was there for and witnessing the amount of death.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So you see why she's all messed up and why she needs to escape with alcoholism and stuff. I think this would just be that cool added layer that would actually make it personal if they were to do a team up movie with Supergirl. I feel like it's inevitable that they would do a Superman and a Supergirl team up movie. And if they do have, and to do that story of Brainiac coming in where Superman's trying to defeat Brainiac, but it's also about Cara having to face her trauma against the thing that caused a destruction of her home planet, I feel like it would just be a really strong narrative. And I think that is the direction they would go. I think not only are you 100% right, but I don't know because I haven't had any sort of knowledge about this. This isn't coming from me knowing anything. But I think it's also a matter of James wanting to.
Starting point is 00:24:57 include certain characters, and this is such a genius way to do escalation narratively. Like you talk about inevitably Superman and Supergirl teaming up. That story, especially the Jeff Johns Brainiac take, is so specifically an escalation from where we exactly are. I think you're totally right. I think James thinks in arcs, I think that describes the saga. I think that allows things to move forward and be a sequel to both Superman and Supergirl in a very natural way.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I think progressing the House of Elle is a really smart thing to show the strength of DC, not as just Batman's friends. like I think it's really smart to triple down and have that be a narrative through line if you look at the original Marvel phase one Iron Man did well Iron Man 2 happened very quickly I think if DC focuses on the super side of things and makes it a very clear standout
Starting point is 00:25:40 that'd be very smart I think Brainiac is a character they have had in pre-production for five different goddamn movies like we've been so close to Brainiac so long I think it may even make sense from that standpoint he's the villain I wanted in the first film I'm actually glad they didn't because I am glad we got to meet Superman long
Starting point is 00:25:56 And the villain was not as big of a deal to explain because Lex Luthor makes sense. We get Lex Luthor. Brainiac we've never had in a theatrical film. I want him like to get his time. If we've got it as a sequel to Supergirl, we establish the trauma. We as a secret to Superman, we understand the whole world of him. Yeah. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I completely agree. I think it's coming. Yeah. And another thing too, that is just on on me is that he has that thing where Brainiac likes to collect things from planets and many different versions of the comics. and then he has a room of like orbs that lets you access stuff and I think that's a section
Starting point is 00:26:31 where he could access being able to talk to some version of Jorrell. Oh, that's fun. And I think that you could actually get some real answers there. I think that would just be so cool. Yeah. I think Canador's coming. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Candor, the small city. Yeah. I think that might be what we get after the movie. Is that what was in the comic? I can't remember which one. The city of Candor is that miniaturized city. Yeah, yeah. I think it'd be cool if he saves that,
Starting point is 00:26:51 brings it to the fortress and he has a pit of Krypton with him that'll give him some closure. Because the first film, will be about him realizing his family is who he's at all along. Man Paw Kent. Second film discovering his heritage and then he brings Kandor back to the fortress and that makes him Superman. That brings his two worlds
Starting point is 00:27:05 together. That's what I would do at the end of it. Oh man. Because then the end is mirroring the end of the first film. Like him looking up and seeing earthbound. The second film could be looking down. So you've got up and then down and you've got the fortress being his place of solitude. What do you feel about him calling at the Superman saga?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Is that something he sounded like he was just telling himself? That's what I'm just calling it. It's not the official title of what he's proceeding with. I mean, this is gods and monsters as a unit. I don't think that the Superman saga is going to be the film name, or do I think it's going to be like, we didn't designate Iron Man as a separate thing. I think it's just like, like he said Superman family, and I was like, that's not the name. It's just involving super people.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And to me, Superman Saga is another one of those. It could end up being, you know, the box set name, but I don't think it's ever going to be a necessary designation because I don't think it's going to separate from the DC. you. Okay. But, you know what I mean? Like, I get through the box of it. Like, he could imagine the trilogy of Superman Supergirl that as Superman saga or like Super Saga, but I don't know if it's going to be like, hmm. Okay. Well, I'm glad we're on the same page. Dude, I think that's exactly right. I've been saying Brainiac since like four years ago before I knew the first movie. And what you just described ties into what I think he would write, especially after high evolutionary. And
Starting point is 00:28:20 I think, you know what I mean? Like that's such a, that's such a great path. And I also think James is very aware of the world's issues. And I think that AI is accelerating this last year. Like, I mean, it's going to be exponential. But I think that the villain that is Brainiac will need to be told before it's just topical. Yeah. Like, I think we
Starting point is 00:28:37 need to get them in fiction before it's just the world. Like, I think about those West Hollywood robots all the time. And I think it's so scary that people are just filming them and normalizing it. Like, they gave them like rainbow shawls and give them office sound bites. That way people think it's like a meme.
Starting point is 00:28:53 and the metamodernous nature of making something terrifying, naturalized is going to make people way more adjusted to a robot walking around you so that when they start being like cop bots and cameras monitoring us and working and taking over jobs,
Starting point is 00:29:09 it's going to be like, oh yeah, we've had those guys. We've been filming them. Oh, suddenly it's not funny anymore. Oh, wait, too late. Government aren't doing these robots. So I think we need Brainiac before we just have death bots.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's kind of crazy how artificial intelligence has been in fiction for decades and now there's more there's there's more stories doing it and people think it's just because of like modern day relevancy when it's like no we when are we going to learn our lesson when is this cautionary tale going to be a caution we take serious you know it's it hasn't worked yet fiction hasn't helped us to scale yet and i feel like sky net like the fact that james cameron is like hey i's great and it's the future i'm like bruh yeah you're the reason a lot of us know about it like you cautioned us four years ago so i i feel like we need brainiac um to at least slow uh some people from laughing at a robot existing yeah because it's so scary
Starting point is 00:30:04 i'm excited i'm looking forward yeah brainiac's gonna be great uh what do what are some of the comments saying in the chat john in response to what we're saying are great opinions let me uh let me see here i say j ah zad should have a super evil dog that's what uh Starlord said Gunn is making it up as he goes along Tutorial Slaves said Shaylem
Starting point is 00:30:27 Let's pause for a second on that Gunn is making it up as it goes along What I love is that James Gunn is a writer-director And what people often forget about Is that pivots can happen Because there's a thing called In creation process of discovery
Starting point is 00:30:41 So when you are writing Or rewriting or a lot of the times People talk about things coming through you Not like I have an idea I have an outline and now let me just write what I have in mind. The idea is discovering what you want to do along the way and allowing pivot.
Starting point is 00:30:57 That's why I wasn't exactly, like I was, I loved when they announced it, but then in, in reflection, I was like, I'm not sure they should have announced all these movies for chapter one because it feels like they have to make it like a finite plan at that point
Starting point is 00:31:12 when discovery is a big part of allowing the pivot game, you know? I feel like that was for shareholders and to get confidence in the brand. I think that is necessary. That's the unfortunate side of something that's $200 million is you have to show a confident thing to launch something. But from a creative side, like, yeah, Superman did well. And I got inspired to write more Superman.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Why would I be shackled to something that I, like, I don't understand how people don't see the gift of a writer-director CEO as a positive because when he is inspired and wants to create something and it's as good as Superman, then that just lends to more. it's not a shackle, it's a benefit. I don't ever... I think Marvel really messed up people's view of art, period. There's a lot of great things and...
Starting point is 00:32:02 Oh, no, Marvel, not positive. Like, huge. Like, I think Marvel is absolutely, like, a huge asset to the theater industry, to comic books, to movies. I hate when they say, like, oh, a movie came out. It didn't affect comics lies.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Like, people have brand awareness about, like, She-Hulk. Even if they don't like the show, people know that character. Like, Marvel has been a whirlwind of positivity for every industry in entertainment, but there are negatives like theatrical window shortening, other movies not getting into theaters in the same way, people being held, you know, against their contract to not be able to do stuff, Mahershal Ali.
Starting point is 00:32:36 There are negatives, but like the pros hardcore outweigh the cons. I do think one of the cons is a phase announcement. I think it's really not what art is. No, no. It's a board meeting. We need to have room for pivoting. I'd be honored to host a haulage for Marvel, but I would not want to be like,
Starting point is 00:32:54 and our next five years is, but there's a different thing there. Like, you can announce the next couple years. You can be excited. You can drive up hype. But I think if you're treating these things like commodities, it's dangerous. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:06 if you think about it in retrospect, if they didn't announce Avengers King Dynasty or Secret Wars, none of this, the off the fallout would be very different. It would be very, very different. And if they hadn't had dates, already on the calendar we wouldn't be like we should have had Doomsday this year like Kang Dynasty would have come out
Starting point is 00:33:25 already but instead it's Doom's Day and then they got moved and it needed to move but they shouldn't have had to move it because they shouldn't have announced it. All right well what do you guys think? Did Marvel ruin everything in your lives? That's what I said that's the part that people are going to clip out and be like this guy let's read a couple more super chats Johnny Ii Capitano
Starting point is 00:33:43 we will do our big you know chunk of them all after we were getting through some of our main stories here. Well, we got 650 people here randomly on a Thursday afternoon at a weird hour. That's pretty good. Unannounced live stream. That's pretty sweet.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Just a little heads up. That makes me happy. Thank you guys. All right. Leave a like. Thank you. Everyone's coming in and be like Greg's bald. Bye.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That's it. That's engagement. People were excited about Brainiac, but your baldness is really captivating the chat. Greg Albo for Brainiat, 2028. All right. Dashun Cheney is. back Deschuan has this to say
Starting point is 00:34:22 a four brothers reaction with your brother who everyone now thinks you look like nah that would be fun you haven't seen you know
Starting point is 00:34:29 you've seen four brothers obviously I love four brothers I would love to watch that movie you never seen it no dude it's so good
Starting point is 00:34:35 it's why I love Garrett man that movie's fantastic I would love to watch that Marky Mark Tyrese having a good old time I'll put it on the list
Starting point is 00:34:42 hung out with your brother this week and nobody yeah you have a good time a lot yeah it was we hung out
Starting point is 00:34:47 with the arcade a lot you praise nobody too quite a bit. I loved nobody too. Like I love an action comedy and I love what it knows what it is. And from the moment nobody two starts, it knows what it is. And until the credits, it doesn't change that. And I think that's hard in a four quadrant goal. Like it's a movie that is off an unexpected hit first movie. So the sequel, I'm always worried like, are they going to sell out or is it going to be true to itself? And it's so 87 North. It's like John Wick family man. And it's such a good time. It's just a blast. I'm excited for it. It's a good time. Love Bob Oding, Kirk, so much. watch the podcast that he just did with Conan O'Brien. I got to be two of my heroes, dude. That was a surreal one. Like Bill Burr and the Rizza in one day was like, that was great.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I was like a photo of Billber. That was cool. I did my review before I met them. So the hype was from the movie. And then I met because I was thinking about it. I was like, did I love the movie? Because I met two of my heroes. I was like, no, I filmed this first.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Nice. Yeah. It's awesome, man. What else we got? Mo Manag. Always here. Hey, my yank, run on the barry. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He's segueing us for the next story. Thank you. Hey, Coy and Greg with Ryan Reynolds' Instagram post. Will we get a Deadpool and Spider-Man Union in Avengers Doomsday? Also, are you excited for Peacemaker's Season 2? I'm excited to watch more of Peacemaker Season 2, for sure. What can you say about Peacemaker? What are you allowed to say?
Starting point is 00:36:05 I can say that the debut is August 21st, and I'm very excited for the people to see it. I mean, people are talking about how they've already seen, I think, the whole season or the first five episodes. I've seen a lot of it. And it's, it is, I think, a really, really bold swing that is going to be, there's a few episodes specifically that I cannot wait for the conversation to be like the old water cooler conversation. I feel like it's not like the mystery box that, you know, Wanda Vision is, but there are elements of like, you know, characters we're going to be excited about. There's going to be moments of, of like, I can't believe just like the first season where it's like. they're going from PG-13 Superman into a very hard R-rated show. And I'm very excited for people to get that like spinner rack feeling.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Like I've been talking about that from the beginning. I love that James Gunn is like, we're going to pivot from Wholesome Hope to Peacemaker. And I'm really excited for those conversations every week. All right. Well, I'm very excited for it too. Let's talk about this Ryan Reynolds post. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So here's the thing here. He posts that image on Instagram with the Avengers symbol. I think that image is featured in Deadpool and Wolverine, right? yeah it's a image is featuring dead pull him over the flag yeah and that led a lot of people to speculate that he's going to be in avengers doomsday and according to john campia who got and supposedly this has been true from time to time is that he knows enough industry people who work close to these things that he got an email saying like no that he actually was not saying he's going to be in avengers doomsday
Starting point is 00:37:45 now that doesn't mean it wasn't saying he's going to be an Avengers Secret Wars yeah what does you say because to me in my opinion I don't think right I don't think Deadpool would fit for Avengers Doomsday yeah secret is a secret worst thing because doomsday seems like it needs to be serious and heavy yeah in order to drive it home and I think having Deadpool even if he's just a supporting character I think that would can I kind of undermine some of the experience. I think this one needs to be a very serious. Not that Deadpool can't be serious.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Deppol has had very serious moments in the trilogy. But I feel like it would just make more sense for him to be in Secret Wars. It's also a levity. You need to escalation. Yeah. Like, Secret Wars can't just be the same people from Doomsday. Like, it is still, at the end of the day, a sequel to a giant movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And then, you know, Doomsday is bringing in all the Fox Universe X-Men characters and stuff. So it's not like it would make sense to have Ryan Reynolds not in. there. But I think Spider-Man right now is their biggest thing that they could hold on to because the Spider-Man is creating a very great hype. Like, Deadpool and Wolverine was massive. Deadpool 3 was going to be big no matter what. Deadpool 3 became even more huge because of the return of Hugh Jackman, something that we didn't know for sure would ever happen. And when they did it, it was like right away, once that was announced, like, there's going to be a billion-dollar movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And a lot of that hinged off the fact that, you know, Hugh Jackman and Ryan Rounds are together. And like we talked about last week, what's so cool about this is while Punisher's in it, while Hulk is in it, the main hype is like, look at these images of Spider-Man. And all that's looking, dude, like, it has not, the hype is not dot down. Imagine, like, to drive that home, imagine if any character, like, if it was like, imagine, oh, look at these images of the guardians. Look at the, not look at these cameos. Yeah. Look at the image, the title character, and to be excited about the title character. Like Superman.
Starting point is 00:39:49 We're all excited about Superman. Exactly. Not just the future of what Spider-Man is setting up. Not the idea of Toby and Andrew coming in. It is Tom Holland Spider-Man, and they need more like that. And also, I feel like Marvel will definitely be using Spider-Man more now to create hype for their other characters. Like he's asking in this super chat right now about. will we see
Starting point is 00:40:14 Ryan Reynolds and Spider-Man on screen? I'm like, I think Marvel wants that more than anything right now. Johnny Storm and Spider-Man interact often in the Fantastic Fourth. I asked Quinn about it. He said he was down. He said he's never met Tom Holland.
Starting point is 00:40:30 In the Hickman run, when there's a moment where I won't say why, but Johnny Storm is absent for a bit, Spider-Man fills in. Yeah, he's one of the four. It becomes one of the Fantastic Four. Oh, we imagine they did that shit. I mean, Chris, the white suit and everything.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And the future foundation's already canon. Damn, that would be insane if they pulled that off, like, for some random. Even for us scene. Yeah. Because even in, okay, a slight comic spoilers here. Because in Fantastic, it's like mini spoiler moment. There's a moment in Fantastic Four where it looks like Johnny might sacrifice himself. That would fall in line.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm trying to, like, dance around here. That would fall in line with how Johnny was absent for Spider-Man. And the comic that allowed Spider-Man to enter into the full to be one of the Fantastic Four. And the Future Foundation is canon in the MCU with the first film. Yeah. That'd be fun. And I do see them playing around with that a lot in those two Avengers films. Yeah, I think Spider-Man right now.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Because that's like an 18 moment. Like all the women for a second, like just a shot of the Fantastic Forward Spider-Man would be a moment. it's nuts and the crazy part though is that they have to do every spider-man thing they do is a workaround with sony in some way yeah they have to have some weird conversation and all the machinations that are involved otherwise i think they'd be using spider-man way more i mean i think i think we'll have we'd have a miles already but i do think we get miles in the next five years because of everything that happened with madame webb and craven yeah yeah that's that's i mean if you want to know of like ryan reynolds and him well i think that undoubtedly we need that i would much
Starting point is 00:42:11 rather have it be Ron Reynolds and Andrew Garfield, though. Just tonally. I want. I want if the other Spider-Man in, I totally see Andrew and Ryan. They're actually friends and their tone of Spider-Man. That's perfect. Yeah. So let's talk about Spider-Man for a little bit more then. They released an on the day. Dude, the day one video? The day one video. Man, it's great. Such great marketing of like a behind the scenes like a year in advance. Harry filmed it. Harry Holland. Oh, he did. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. He filmed a bunch of stuff with me and Tom for the trailer event. hosted so I got to know Harry really well not really well I got to know Harry very well for that week and um I remember a very conscious thought I had which I hate how cynical I'm about Hollywood but I was like oh Harry's his little brother he's just filming and I wonder if he's good at it like because I'm that guy that's like oh that's kind but like I wonder if he wants to be a videographer talk to Harry and he's like oh he's obsessed with cinematography he's got this great eye but I hated that my first thought was like how sweet his little brother instead of like given the guy a chance for a minute I was like he's gonna me and then I remember seeing his
Starting point is 00:43:08 footage and I was like, this guy's incredible. What a great cinematographer. But he's like young and he's got such a good eye and he's got such a good color grading eye. And I remember being really impressed. And then at the premiere, like five months later, I got to tell him. I was like, hey, man, you were just his little brother. I didn't know what that footage looked like. You're like great at this. And he's gotten even better the last three years. This footage is gorgeous. And I'm so excited. The kid's great. It's going to be a special time when that movie comes out. Oh, I'm going to lose my mind. It's going to be a special time. I can't wait to see the look of it because while we've and teases of swinging and stuff. The martial arts choreography of Shang Chi, seeing with Daniel Destin's going to be able to pull off with this is going to be remarkable. Did you see the pose where you did the other thing? Yeah, I was doing the actual Spider-Man pose. Dude, I lost my mind.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Like, that is, I saved it on every device I have. So I could look at it. I never saw the short-lived Broadway production, but this is close. This seems like what they were trying to do, but they kept failing. And now they're actually able to pull it off right now. Justice for Turn Off the Dark.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Turn off the Dark. And now they have, it seems like for sure there's going to be, because there's, you know, there's toys revealed already about, I mean, toys are not always accurate. True. They make extra toys. They make extra toys that are in, you know, just so kids can buy a set. Exactly. But it seems like Savage Hulk would most like, do you feel like it will be Savage Hulk? I think that we need Savage Hulk, just like in the MCU. I think we need him for Secret Wars. I think we did him for Doomsday. I think people have had a lot of, we've had, I think, more Professor Hulk than. Hulk yeah and I think at this point we want Hulk do you like the idea because it seems like if mr. negatives in it yeah it seems like with mac gargan that they're going they're going to be skipping to him being venom I think that uh if you set up venom well and tie in the secret
Starting point is 00:44:55 war stuff because that's where venom came from that's dope uh I don't know if they'll I don't know if they'd rush a venom saga I could see venom being a symbiate that attaches to mac gargan or something but like I don't think we'd get a lot of venom in this movie, but I think you could set up a good trilogy. That could include Secret Wars. I mean, he's posted two images that seem to be. It's like when Jamie Fox was posting with the three Spider-Men. I was like, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. Well, I feel like he would have to have gotten approval to post those stories to generate some hype. It's working. It's working. It's also out in like 11 months. Yeah. This movie's out so soon. Well, it's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Like, I'm of two minds about him becoming the symbiote version because, A, we haven't gotten a proper live action scorpion. yet right and i don't want to rush that you would kind of rush it if he immediately gets the symbiote suit but if he's the villain of the movie and then at the end of the movie gets just the you see the black sploshiness well what what spider man your friendly neighborhood spider man did so well is it drove home how a lot of times scorpion is involved with like a group sinister six or whatever or or or with someone else even even in one of the comics that i read where he gets the symbiote suit uh it's him and green goblin team up and then it's going to be able to attach us to him what's your friendly neighborhood spider man drove
Starting point is 00:46:13 home so well is how terrifying he can be just on his own yeah and that's kind of what i would want i want to see without the venom yeah and michael mando is incredible and better to call saul anyone who's watched better call saul knows how phenomenal an actor he is and he can be terrifying so i feel like he really deserves that shot at doing that that wouldn't rely on him i think yeah setting them up for a sequel to do that but then i don't know if they would let him tease all this shit. Right, right. So I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I think there will be an element of venom setting up, but I don't think we'll get full Scorpion Venom. And I think the tease allows for that. Yeah. All right. But I'm very excited. Everything about this movie has me hype. I'm very excited too.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I'm very excited too. What do you guys think about all the Spider-Man news, man? It's going to be a crazy time. Next year is Supergirl in June and Spider-Man in July. Like next year, already summer is nuts. That is freaking nutty professional. And then let's talk about Avengers Doomsday? Then we're going to go on to the super chats and stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Do we have some we got to go through right? We got a good amount of super chats. That goes through. Yeah. We have a good amount of super chats and some stream loud. Nice. Nice. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Avengers Doomsday, D-23, an event I always forget about until the weekend it's happening. D-203 is going to be in Orlando this year. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's upset some people. We'll not attend. Part of me is like, can I get tickets? Can I now finally accept the hookup that I always rejects down the street? You're like, nah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I've never been to Disney World. I think it's going to be at Disney World. You've never been? Oh, that's fun. Disney World's fun. I love me some Disney World. So D23 Marvel will actually be there, and there's a lot of heavy speculation that there'll be a chair reveal part two. When is the D23?
Starting point is 00:48:05 August 30th. Oh, it's this month. They'll showcase Lucasfilm, Marvel Studios, and other Disney projects. Do you think we'll get more reveals from Avengers Doomsday? How about this? Who do you speculate will be in this movie that is not announced? So many. They didn't give us, like, they gave us mainly new people.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Like, they gave us the Fantastic Four. They gave us the Thunderbolts. We still have so many, like, of the Avengers and, like, supporting, like, I think it'll be as many or more. Do you think they'll show set photos or photos? I think they'll have some set photos. I think they'll have some reveals from set, like maybe a video from Downey.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Because we've been getting like little teases here. Like Downey's a lot of post some photos. Rebecca Remains talked about her experience working on it. Alan Cumming is posting images. And this must be all. Thor, Chris Hemsworth has talked about working. with this new generation of younger actors how when he was first here,
Starting point is 00:49:11 how he felt like new kid on the block and now he's one of the veterans of the MCU. Yeah. So I think there's a lot of things that they could do to actually drum up some more additional hype for this. But I'm also like, I don't think they should announce more people.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I think a second reveal of cast is inevitable because they did that first one so early. I mean, the script's just finished. So now they know what the movie is. So I feel like that's going to be a factor in pushing more hype up like this thing has to make so much money well we got the tease of dr doom and fantastic four spoilers we got a fantastic for him there do you think they'll give us our first official look i could see that timing wise that's what september it's august 30th so it's practically
Starting point is 00:49:55 september september to um the following november is a pretty long time but a year in two months i could see them doing it yeah because it's out like 20 it's supposedly out 20 27 or 226 a year of hype though I would save the doom thing a little longer but I could see them
Starting point is 00:50:14 wanting the press like they shouldn't if they were going to hold it not making it a big reveal save it more but I could see them doing it I feel like they should go weird with their marketing
Starting point is 00:50:25 they did with the chairs I feel like they could do like some cool Warner Brothers I think there's a lot to learn from what Warner Brothers is doing when we leave Universal City Walk
Starting point is 00:50:35 Near Universal City Walk I mean There's this billboard That Warner Brothers I think is just bought out Yeah the one at the end of the As you go on the highway Yeah because like they had a crazy one
Starting point is 00:50:46 For Superman holding up the globe They had a weird ass one For weapons with the clock They had the final destination one With the construction worker Because Warner Brothers studios right there I think that's physically there It's weird
Starting point is 00:50:57 It's like right across Universal You know the studios at the end Of the water's lot Across the street are universal Oh right I always thought they were Those lands touch. Weird.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Well, like, okay, so final destination, you guys might have seen it. They have ones where they have like dummy construction workers and it was blood slattered. They do, they do like these crazy billboards. And then every time I pass it, it draws the eye and it makes it feel like an event movie. Yeah, 100%. It's an effective billboard. And there's hell of traffic. So you have time to look at it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah. Like, it's a good spot. It's a great spot. And every time it pull, and it makes me want to go watch the movie when I see it. I know what you did last summer. they were attempting something similar with that with like the girl in the bikini. And that's not Warner Brothers, but they were attempting something like that where it's like some three-dimensional thing.
Starting point is 00:51:41 But Warner Bros has a really good handle on how to do it. And I'm like, oh, you know, they should do stuff like doom is coming. Yeah. Like they have that shit like plastered around. Just something that feels like ominous.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. And like we got to like this. If the movie itself is your introduction to your massive villain. Start setting up now. You should start teasing the ominous arrival of him now with with the audience. with the world and set up like weird marketing tactics to do that but i don't i marvel doesn't really do that i think they have to pivot i think they were reliant on their name for a long time and now that's not as true like i think marvel had a certain amount of like guaranteed we will see it i think
Starting point is 00:52:19 they're going to have to like find inventive marketing choices to your point that are making it an event because it's not a guaranteed event i think i loved fantastic four um i i loved thunderbolts but i think neither felt like the event they needed to until right before They need to start slow burning these event movies. You see, one thing I did not bring up last week when, you know, talking about Marvel decline, box office decline, all that, et cetera, et cetera. Because to my grander point of like how I feel that if they're putting this much money in there, it has to be making the kind of money that certain movies are able to do or how
Starting point is 00:52:56 or be event cinema, truly be event cinema the way how like a five nights of Friday is going to have a day and day peacock release and then also be a hit in the theaters. That's, it seems like even K-pop demon hunters is going to be a big limited window release, you know. So my question is, I have no idea, though, because people are like, well, it goes to streaming so fast. It goes to digital so fast. But do people then who don't go to the theaters, what is the fraction of how many people actually catch up? Because that's, that was my bigger point about the decline of Marvel interest, is that it's not just box office. a lot of times people don't even bother to catch up when the show comes out, when the streaming comes out, when the digital comes out. They're not even bothering with it. I hear a surge when it hits Disney Plus. I hear like word of mouth. But I'm in an echo chamber. I don't know how much of that is just because the algorithms like, you like Marvel. Here's some Marvel. So like I know they do something, but I don't know any personal, I don't know any individual that waits for Disney Plus for a movie as in my personal life. I know them digital.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I read about it, but. And a lot of times it's like, well, I'll just wait for Disney Plus, and it's not like they're chomping at the big for, day one. It's more like, when I get around to it, I'll get around to it. And by that point, they might have already lost interest to even checking the thing out. Right. And they might just get around to it randomly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 When they're scrolling through Disney. Oh, Thunderbolts is out. Yeah, because Thunderbolts comes out at the end of August on Disney Plus, and like, will we see some surge in? And will that be enough to matter financially? Well, that, exactly. Will that bolster? Does it, does it lead to more people?
Starting point is 00:54:34 signing up for Disney plus. A family of five sending $7 that month? Is it that dollar per person going to help them out? Exactly. Which is why the streaming model always baffled me as far as the suit side of it. It's going to be weird. It's going to be weird. But anyway, I'm excited for Spider-Man and Doomstand the Superman
Starting point is 00:54:50 saga. There's a lot of cool things. Yeah. Spider-Man next year is so crazy considering these images. And like the fact that it comes out a month after Super Girl is just like the next summer. I thought this summer was great and I stand by the summer being great, but those two movies, I'm a bigger Spider-Man fan than Fantastic for.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I'm sorry, he's my guy. And I am a bigger Woman of Tomorrow fan than almost any other DC comic. I was more excited for Superman because that was like a brand new universe, what could it be? But as far as like a comic adaptation, Woman of Tomorrow is up there. So next summer is just crazy. All right. Well, you know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:55:24 We've got a lot of great supporters here at Real Rejects who have sent in a good amount of questions. And I want to make sure we get to all them because more will probably pile in. And we have to end in an hour and 10 minutes. Let's give them the lion's share of the time. Quality efficiency. John, before we go into the Supers, is there any comments you would like to highlight from the live stream chat?
Starting point is 00:55:48 You're not going to believe this. I won't. But people are very, very up in arms about your hair. Hair chat, 2025. Every time someone enters the chat, they notice your hair. People think you're looking really good. Everyone wants to know where your barber's at. A lot of people think you went to a black barber.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Olivia, black barber album. No, I went to a supercuts and I said, is there a black man here? That's what I did. Is there a black man? You're not black. You can't shave my head. Cut to Olivia with a barber. I put her in blackface.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Ah. Yeah. Halloween costume. Right. Chris, the artist, took Coy's suggestion and watched Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Nice. A show's so good. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 So there's that. Love to hear it. What I don't like is the optics that people think I want Marvel to fail or that I'm hopping on some bandwagon. You know, about it. Just pointing out your feeling of the box office. Yeah, that was more coming from a bummed place than a like, it's time to capitalize on anti-woken material or some shit. I've learned that when I talk on the internet. I have to think of it like a text
Starting point is 00:57:03 and assume there's no reception of nuance. Like when I send a text, I think about like, oh, if I put a period there, someone's going to panic so they think I'm mad at them. On the internet when I talk,
Starting point is 00:57:13 if I say like, well, that didn't do as well as I hoped. All people hear is, that didn't do well, and they stop listening. So it's unfortunate, but there is no such thing
Starting point is 00:57:21 as nuance or integrity in the internet. What do we got? Let's talk to the internet. What are we got? Well, you guys have. nuance and integrity most definitely i try all righty here we go let's see we got my yonk we're up to rj let me line you up on the screen there in guns dc u how big do you want the bat fam to be also what are your guys favorite exercises for working out thank you rj two broad questions i think you got
Starting point is 00:57:56 to go big with the bat family really i think you got to grow into it i don't think you just Start big. I say start with two or three. Barbara Gordon, Nightwing, and a Robin. I would want them to do it properly. That's my one issue with Batman Brave and the Bold. Okay. Is that you'd be skipping over a couple of Robbins.
Starting point is 00:58:14 You would get Nightwing right away. I would assume Nightwing and Damien, and I would also assume Barbara Gordon. And that, to me, is a good-sized family. I mean, but would Barbara be Oracle by this point? I would be back-girl. She would be back-girl. Unshot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Spined up. Vertical. Did you guys know there was a Birds of Prey show shortly on CW? Dude, I watched it when I was, I googled it recently, and I was like, I forgot. It was like a part of my brain reopened. I was like, oh, right. It was of the era when I associate every CW with the Evanescent song. Yes, that was their tone.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Wake me up. That's how I viewed every new metal ending. I know it was in Daredevil, but every CW show, I just thought was evidence. The small music was bangor after banger, but they didn't get the licensing. So you watch it on DVD now that none of those songs are there. I bring it up because Oracle was in the show. Yeah. And that was my introduction to the character, Huntress.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But yeah. But I wouldn't want Huntress yet. No, no, no, no. I wouldn't want Tim Drake yet. And in that version, she was a Batman and Catwoman's daughter. I still remember that. That's crazy. Which is a canon, Huntress.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, not in the Birds of Praying, the Fantabulous emancipation of one Harley Quinn. Right. But, yeah, I think in the ideal world, I would want them to just do it proper of, although there is a magic trick to when you just throw you into something and it's already established. I think that's the move, but not with too many. I think Nightwing, R. Dia's Nightwing, a former Robin gives you two Robbins because then you can have a new Robin. And I think Bat Girl is her own character enough that you don't need to... Nightwing is the thing that got me reading comics.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Nightwing's incredible. If you do Notwing right, he's just impossible to cast. The Nightwing Hunt for Oracle was the first graphic novel I ever read. That's awesome. I adored it so much. I love Nightwing Year 1. I think there's kind of a weird humor to Dick Grayson. be cool. Like, I think you, yeah, they've mentioned Bloodhaven. Yeah. A couple of times now.
Starting point is 01:00:05 In both. Yeah. So I think it would be cool if we did actually get a night wing and you establish him and then you get a nightwing movie that can go through night. I think you can do like a parallel where you do like kind of like Godfather 2 where you do like a half origin, you cut back and forth and then you watch the type of culmination. Like I always thought you could do a night wing movie. I think night wing could be the supergirl of the Batman where it's like you give a
Starting point is 01:00:27 Superman movie with Nightwing in it and then. Well, a big part of Nightwing is he's. trying to break free from the shadow of Batman and the tutelage of Batman and you know like he she feels very they have a very toxic relationship when he's robin and he
Starting point is 01:00:43 disbands from him yeah and I think that would just make for such a compelling that's why I think you should keep Robert Pattinson separate and you get Josh brolin in there to be in that dark night rises bedding that would be so cool uh yeah
Starting point is 01:00:58 I think darned returns yeah but Starting off with, because if you're going to Damien Wayne right away, you're skipping over a couple of, then you would get an established red hood and all this shit, you would get an opportunity to see that. But I think, yeah, eventually, my dream scenario has always been that they eventually do a Batman Arkham Asylum, like 10 movies down the road. But they would not just include Batman, it would also include the Bat family. But I think growing to that, I would not want them to start with more than three personally. Yeah. And my favorite workout is, you know, I like push-up variations a lot for some reason.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah. And I like dumbbell hammer curls a lot. I'm a big forearm barbell curl. I think it feels really powerful because you feel like all of your arm, like forearm and bicep and tricep when you extend. I'm a big, uh, skull crusher guy too. I just feel like.
Starting point is 01:01:42 You like the ones I don't like. Really? I'm not a big fan of those. Oh, I love feeling like the pump. Like I think those muscles like they immediately inflate. And I love that feeling of like, oh, this is worth the effort. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I'm a bench guy, but that's like the answer. I feel like everybody likes the bunch because it's just like when you think of working out, you think of benching. Yeah. But I love flies because of that. Yeah. Like I'm a big, like...
Starting point is 01:02:02 I'm an inclined chest press guy. Oh, 100%. I incline almost all my benching. Because I want those corners more than I want, like, take old bitties. Yeah. I bought these cupping things from Target. Oh, it's so nice. Cup it, like the...
Starting point is 01:02:14 Yeah. How do they work? Great. They actually relieve a lot of attention. Surprising. Really? Yeah, surprised me. I was intrigued by the, because you were all like...
Starting point is 01:02:21 And nobody too, yeah. That was all me. Yeah. I didn't realize you do those yourself. Yeah. And he noticed a difference. Oh, yeah. It's like it's so tense in my neck.
Starting point is 01:02:30 My shoulders get in a lot of pain. Yeah. Yeah, I use it last night. Oh, and shoulder exercises. I love shoulder. I love like, these are really dangerous. You want to be Tom Hardy. Yeah, I want my traps.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I want to hear my traps. Yeah. Traps are a character. What do we got next? Thanks to the question. Thank you. RJ next up. Saint 53 is back.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I preferred man of steel over the new Superman. Hot takes, I know. But this new movie is a great step for Superman. Dude, I think Man of Steel is awesome. I actually started it a few days ago, just on a whim. I'm like, yeah, this movie's pretty fucking sweet.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I do like it a lot. The whole Krypton opening, and I love that we have two very different Superman part ones, you know? I think it's great that Manist Steel exists. It's a super cool movie. And for 10 years, I'm so happy that people see Superman that way have him.
Starting point is 01:03:24 And I actually appreciate it more, not by I appreciate it more after watching Superman 2025 weirdly just because I can get more on board even with the like this is Superman
Starting point is 01:03:42 but the super dark version of it you know and it makes it makes it feel like a yin yang experience for me versus oh we only have this dark version I might like it more now because of that Like I remember, I like the movie as a movie, but I was always like, man, that's not how I see the character. You're right. Now I have the character I see him as. So it might be even better for me because I know I could just turn on Superman. Like if you only had absolute Batman, but not Batman, it wouldn't be as cool. Not as special. Yeah. So to have both versions. And I think visually it's stunning. I'm glad it exists. I'm glad I'm glad like people have that take for those people that love him that way. By the way, I've been hopping around so many comics. I started the boys on like few volumes in a few issues in. It's a very different comic than a movie other than the show.
Starting point is 01:04:26 so mean. It is a lot. It is dark. It is aggressive. No heart. No, it is cruel to the reader. It is vile, cruel, way more sexual and violent. Have you gotten to the Batman and Robin parallel guys yet? Not yet. Okay. I'm hopping around a lot. Oh boy. Are they something? Yeah, there's a, yeah, anyway. Yeah, we Huey goes through it. It's weird to be reading it. It's like, it's a comic I don't read in public. It feels like, yeah. I was in bed and I'm like, I'm re on my iPad. and Olivia's next to me reading her book and I'm just like, do I look like a fucking purve? Don't glance over here.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Like this is so, it's so ugly. My buddy Derek's the illustrator and I've always wondered what it felt like to draw some of those pages because I felt like reading them and I can't imagine being the guy that was like, it is ugly. Derek's a genius man. Yeah, it's like I got to like
Starting point is 01:05:18 take freaks for this. It's a lot. Yeah. What else we got today, John? Can you fix your mic, John? there we go thank you so much saint moving right along to Lobstar
Starting point is 01:05:31 I think they want more people to watch Superman before Peacemaker that's why it's coming out early oh I agree and I just don't think it's as necessary
Starting point is 01:05:42 as the cost of it being not in theaters I totally get the why I just disagree at the scale of the why if that makes sense without I don't know
Starting point is 01:05:55 what I can and can't say either. I would say do not skip the recap on Peacemaker. Yes. James has talked about the importance of Peacemaker and I think that all of it is going to be important. Because yeah, when I, like a
Starting point is 01:06:10 minor thing, when I was watching it, I was like, I don't know, it's just, I watched season one already. I'm looking at this recap and most of them like, yeah, this is just a recap. And then some things happen. Yeah, that's all I'll say. And I'm like, oh, let's
Starting point is 01:06:25 leave it at that. Yeah. All right. Thanks for this super chat, though. Thank you. Thank you, Lobster. Moving on to Bailey. Hi, Bailey. Thank you, Bailey. Longtime fan here, almost 10 years. That's what I'm talking about. You see me through all types of weight shapes. And hair lengths.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Do you think? Holland's Peter explores the dark side we never got with Garfield's Peter after Gwen died. Oh, good question. I do feel like they're setting up an isolated Peter. I feel like they're setting up a very, you know, Peter Parker in the rain,
Starting point is 01:07:00 Chaudemeter Jr. drawing. We did get that in No Way Home. We got some of the images of that darkness, but we haven't gotten to see him play in that, you know, more than those 40 minutes. You know, No Way Home is a pretty dark film for Tom. But I do think we're going to go there with isolation in this next film.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Yeah, I think a very underappreciated sequence because as time has gone on, you know, people will still talk about, but the swinging in this fight and the fight in Spider-Man, like the Spider-Man 2 Doc Rock train fight, I think a very underappreciative fight is when Green Goblin does reveal himself in no way home.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Like, one of my favorite Spider-Man, like, seconds is when Tom Holland just quickly, with the window. You're talking about the flip, when he flips and he goes out, but with the window when he just like immediately just breaks it. It's so short. It's like a second long, but it is one of
Starting point is 01:07:49 the coolest moments to me of any Spider-Man moment. I know it's popular to crap on the last thing, but John Watts really did have some incredible visual storytelling elements of Spider-Man. He did not yeah, it came through in a like tonally for far from home I think does not
Starting point is 01:08:04 I don't know far from home I there's the mysterious sequence that's the thing it's like it doesn't feel like the movie as a whole has a vision as like a unique John Watts looking vision like Mark Webb's has that Ramey's has that John Watts would come through in scenes yeah there's some sequences and all of them that are
Starting point is 01:08:23 transcendent but I think that's kind of a Marvel cinematic universe issue. I feel like that's, you've prevised the hell out of the movie before you shot it. Like even Ramey, every Ramey movie has that, except Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness. Not every scene or moment feels like a Ramey. It feels like, yeah, this looks like a Marvel thing. Yeah. Yeah. So what's the common denominator there? It's like that's how they make. I'll even say that with Ryan Coogler and Black Panther. I think the same thing is like Black Panther pretty distinct. But then there are times where it's like, yeah, this looks like a Marvel. And I would say he's one of the most specific directors.
Starting point is 01:08:54 having seen all of his other work. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That's my point. But sometimes they do let them just have their sequence. That's the shit. And I think this one, they will let them do that. Because unlike the other three films,
Starting point is 01:09:10 I actually feel like this, they want to honor what fans have been requesting. Tom Holland has his finger on the pulse. He seems to be fighting for what the fans want. Like when they say it seems that they'll be taken inspiration from Insomniac Spider-Man games, you're looking at what they're doing. Yeah, it looks like it.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah. Do that. They liked it. The fans want that. Yeah. I think they're actually going to be doing something really special with this one. And Spider-Man goes through it narratively. Like, let him.
Starting point is 01:09:33 So to your answer to question, I think what Spider-Man goes through, we need that side of him. And we haven't had this friendly neighborhood side yet. And that can be isolating because he doesn't have his friends. He doesn't have the Avengers. I'm excited for every Spider-Man movie whenever it's coming out. This is a unique one. This is the most excited of Ben, I think, since Garfields. Yeah, this is a unique.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Like I was so excited about Homecoming and I was so excited about No Way Home is my favorite. Still, this feels different. Yeah. You prefer No Way Home even over like Into the Spiderverse and all that? Oh, sorry. It was just a live action. Across the Spiderverse into the Spiderverse or yeah. They're in another.
Starting point is 01:10:08 There's like, there's like perfect films and then there's like, oh my God, an amazing film. Those are perfect films. Those are the rare like can't be touched. I love Into the Spider version across the Spiderverse like without language. I have no way to express. They really are magical experiences. They're so special. there's nothing quite like them yeah there isn't and now every animation movie is like this looks like spider
Starting point is 01:10:28 yeah they reinvented spider man and animation yeah they reinvented i mean even k-pop demon hunters has a lot of flourishes that like this looks like spider version yeah so special john what's next on the agenda all righty thank you so much bailey moving on to clayton crook thoughts oh i think this might be a coy centric question clayton wants to know thoughts on baby keem Greg might be confused. Hip-hop. What is that? Music.
Starting point is 01:11:01 It is a musical genre. Baby Kim, I get the hype and I like, but I do not find myself listening to, like, there's artists I can respect, and I can see why they're popular, and I can say, like, oh, my God, talent, but I just, I don't find myself putting it out a lot,
Starting point is 01:11:16 but with respect. Like, I get it. I just, it's not my thing. You know what I'm excited for. A Life of a Showgirl. T.S. 12. Taylor Swift, baby. Music for Greg.
Starting point is 01:11:29 October 3rd. That's soon. My journey with Taylor Swift did not care for her at all. Olivia got tickets. She was one of the people who were like, so hard to get tickets. The heiress tour that is filmed,
Starting point is 01:11:50 she was at that with pretty great. seats and she got two tickets i'm like i don't care to go take my cousin then eventually she took me to the theaters to watch the heiress tour and i fell in love i thought she was singing directly to me and then later i'm like i could have gone and signed her in person i'm going to fulfill that wish and i hope to see you swifties there have you still not seen her in person no oh that's going to be fun man yeah that's special i can't wait so yes suck it baby keen that's related through music were you on the Kelsey Brothers
Starting point is 01:12:26 live stream yesterday I was I was not we were here I was not I saw clips of it I was very happy for everyone well all righty thank you so much
Starting point is 01:12:36 Clayton Crook Hut mutt whoa a very generous one god damn thank you thank you hut mutt butt hey guys just got out of weapons and I'm about to see
Starting point is 01:12:47 together what a good day what's the best horror film you've seen this year weapons easily weapons really would be my favorite um I haven't seen together
Starting point is 01:12:57 I would like to react to that one I liked together quite a bit didn't love but liked a lot um that's when I'm willing to I'd love to react to um probably put final destination bloodlines on there it's just a fun experience
Starting point is 01:13:13 uh not particularly scary but fun but weapons is just my jam and it and what's cool about weapons that I really want to throw out there is there's this there's this very famous screenwriting book called save the cat and every movie follows the structure of save the cat it's it becomes predictable of like how structures act one two and three go it's all a loss moment it's like save the cat didn't invent the structure it just really define what the typical hollywood structure is narratively weapons is
Starting point is 01:13:46 not that it it it really messes with structure it is far from being that structure. And I love that they were able to make a box office hit film that is that is original and structurally very different and requires a lot of paying attention. So yeah, I love weapons
Starting point is 01:14:05 a lot. Weapons is like my, weapons would definitely be one of my favorite movies of the year. I think sinners, I was making sure I couldn't think of anything else, but sinners really like I, but it's funny is I like the non-hore elements of sinners better than the vampire elements. That's why I would give it to weapons. But of what I've
Starting point is 01:14:21 watched this year, but not a new movie. I watched Kerry this year. That was pretty insane. Like, I'd never seen Carrie. I reacted to it. And that was like, that was, I get it. Like, that movie's 50 years old. And I was like, I get why this is popular. Like, Carrie was insane. But for new movies, either sinners or, I guess just sinners. I haven't seen weapons yet. There's got to be other hard movies this year. I mean, I know what you still know. Oh, I'm going to react to that. Yeah. I would throw 20 years later into the conversation. Oh, that's my number one. Jesus Christ. 28 years later
Starting point is 01:14:50 with a comfy lead 28 years later Thank you John I was like I feel like I'm missing a key thing I love that movie I would put it
Starting point is 01:14:59 as my number from what if we're talking in terms of horror I would put weapons number one that one genuinely had scary moments like really scared me I would put sinners
Starting point is 01:15:10 at number I put 20 years later at number two and then sinners at three because the horror doesn't quite horrify me but if we're talking about just movies I'd actually have a very different order
Starting point is 01:15:23 sure I would put sinners at number one weapons of two and 28 years later at three is how I would do yeah I'm excited for weapons I am gonna watch it but I'm scared and I'm gonna react to once or I know you did last summer here alright I'll look forward to thank you guys for the super chats and I love how we're getting different questions not comic book related thank you
Starting point is 01:15:41 absolutely let's go back to comics though oh it's coming Bob Marley thank you for chiming in for beyond the grave comic coi what's your favorite moon night run Greg Smallwood run Jeff Lemire Greg Smallwood did this incredible run that really balanced the different personalities but Greg Smallwood's art is so photorealistic it really
Starting point is 01:16:02 added a pulpy nooriness to the character that I had never felt before I love it so good never recommended you Is that the one I read? Yeah oh okay I read it The art is so like tactile and real The one that was in lead up to moon night yeah oh the one that was definitely inspired by yeah yeah moon i was definitely inspired by that run yeah
Starting point is 01:16:22 that one yeah i mean i haven't read it since i only recommended you one run so i was like i thought you read yeah yeah i haven't i haven't ventured out into more moon night since yeah that's my favorite run that's why i recommended it i think it's perfect oh i love that run it was cool and it was really cool to see the show take true inspiration so much from it that's why i'm hoping uh jake lockley does come in soon sooner rather than later yeah well all righty thank you bob marley Shouts out to Jake Lockley And Giamaru Thank you for chiming in
Starting point is 01:16:49 What do you think of an R-rated movie Adaptation of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles The Last Ronan Which is currently in development I'm super excited I think Last Ronan Like I don't typically read Turtles comics Just it's not my thing as much as the movies
Starting point is 01:17:04 But that comic is so good I'm so in Have you read it? Yeah yeah I want to read it It's so good The art is intense It's so like
Starting point is 01:17:12 Tragic and big It just feels so epic. It feels like a samurai epic. Well, to my understanding with Ninja Turtles, because of what, like, television media with the cartoon and obviously the live action, it has changed the optics of what Ninja Turtles is as this lighthearted kid fair.
Starting point is 01:17:31 It started way more adult. But it started super adults. I love the Kevin Eastman stuff from the beginning. That's what I like, and that's why no disrespect to the current stuff, not as much my jam. But Last Rodin feels like the OG. And I haven't seen, I was almost on the,
Starting point is 01:17:44 Ninja Turtles reaction, but that went to John and Aaron, because I haven't seen Ninja Turtle since I was a kid. I haven't either. But that original, my brain associates it as being like surprisingly dark compared to what Ninja Turtles has become over the years. So it might seem like a big ask of people that go on this. And it is actually because of how things have changed, but in a lot of ways, doing an R-rated Ninja Turtles is going a little bit more to his roots. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, going back to the roots in a way that could be very exciting. And I love that they're taking a gamble with that like to do an r-rated adaptation of the turtles character like it sounds like it could be cheesy or some shit but it could also be like mostly
Starting point is 01:18:23 adults are like i find so many adults love turtles it's it's easy to do an over 18 demo yeah i feel like it's perfect i'm excited for i've still never seen the third one i've only seen the one that is when they are samurai are they go to jip they time travel to japan and and they land in japan i think i've seen the cover i think i've seen a vhs of this but yeah i've seen the first two when I was a kid, and I never saw it the third one that I remember. I don't remember it either. Maybe we'll react when the rodent comes out. But I believe Raphael is the main character.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Right, John? I mean, kind of, like, they, Raphael always kind of skews toward being the main character. The third one, the third one struck me as being very much an ensemble. Okay. Yeah. All I remember is they high kick instead of high five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:09 The high kick. The first movie has Raff going out. and, you know, being broody. And the first one is actually, like, the darkest one. And then the second one, I think Eastman and Laird were like, please don't go toward the cartoon and the sequels are both. Like, we're cartooning! Yeah, I can see that.
Starting point is 01:19:26 But the first one kind of has that grit. Yeah, the first one I remember even, like, visually look-wise, was dark. Sam Rockwell's in it. Because R.F. goes out and fights Casey Jones, and he's got the trench coat and the hat, the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I love the idea of an R-rated Ninja Turtles.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I think we need to be able to take more gambles like that. And it says it's a gamble, I think that will actually pay off. Agreed. Because here's the thing, too, is R-rated, I think the more time goes on, the more younger generations watch R-rated stuff. But before it, I think censorship for kids was that the guidelines will always be in place. Sometimes they wiggle around. Sometimes they change things, MPA-A-A-wise and whatever. but to me I think that more and more kids now don't like I can't watch that I'm too young I think younger people are watching fucking more mature shit more and more time because they have cell phone access yeah that's why I think Marvel doing R-rated stuff is not a
Starting point is 01:20:27 let the story be the story needs to be told if it's an R-rated story let it be if it's a PG-13 character let it be but don't restrain your characters we've had two R-rated comic book movies that have hit a billion dollars and deadpoles have come close but so my the point is that as more time goes on doing more r-rated stuff i don't feel like is as much of a hindrance as people think it is and i don't know how much jinz turn it up for comic book stuff so let the adults that watch it get the movie they want if it's an r-rated character and sometimes an r-rated adaptation feels it feels more rare so in some ways it feels like an event yeah there's something special yeah i mean i i consider I give the flowers to Blade for starting the MCU, and that's Rated.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah. But if they, like, had done Blade after a bunch of PG-13 ones. I was afraid Blade in the M-C-U was going to be PG-13, because a few other rounds of Blade were going to be PG-13, and I was like, that's not Blade. Yeah, yeah. Blood. Blood.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Blood. This vampire that kills, it needs to be our rated. Yeah. Anyway, what's next on the agenda, John? All right. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. Yeah, so very nice turnout today.
Starting point is 01:21:33 We got David next. Thank you, David. David has this to say. I don't have any great question, but I just want to say I've been enjoying watching you guys for a few years now and to thank you for the hours of entertainment
Starting point is 01:21:47 to keep up the good work. Oh, thank you, man. We will accept this compliment. We will receive it. Thank you so much. 100%. Thank you, my buddy. Richard Lloyd chiming in.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Thank you so much. Going back to an earlier topic, I think Brainiac, says Richard, would be a good villain for Superman, too? I think Brainiac is going to make a lot of sense to whatever they do next. I do think the family idea, not super family, the movie, but I think Supergirl and Superman taking on Brainiac is logical. It's a big, big villain.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I think if it's Supergirl and Superman, that drives home how much scarier Braineric is, that they need two Kryptonians to take him down, you know? I think that's what's coming. I think you're right. That would make a lot of sense. And, you know, build up to Brainiac. Yeah. And I think they have an opportunity here for Superman, too.
Starting point is 01:22:35 does everyone knows Zod or Brainiac, right? I mean, Zod lacks Brainiac. Yeah. Those are the main go-to villains for Superman. I think Superman too would have an opportunity. The way how Iron Man introduced, like, I mean, no one really knew Ironmonger or Whiplash, but the way how the MCU movies can also introduce us to new villains. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I think that Superman, too, could introduce us to a villain that's a little bit more obscure and as opposed to something more obvious. You know, you got to give the fans what they want in some way, I would prefer for the next official Superman, too, that we do a villain that might not be as well known. What is the Superman? I forget his name. The Superman villain who gets turned into it,
Starting point is 01:23:16 he's like a, I remember him mainly from the Superman animated show where he, Mixie Plitlick. What's that one? A little fifth dimensional imp. No, no, no, no. No, the one where he's like a human being
Starting point is 01:23:32 and then he gets like Android. Cryptoite heart. Android updates. Metallo, that's who it is. Metalo, yeah. Mattelow. Yes, and Lex is linked to him as creating him. Yeah, I think Mattelow would be a really cool foil.
Starting point is 01:23:47 If they could do it right, Mattel would be perfect. Then it's a good excuse to get your weird white radiation Superman suit. Yeah. Yeah. I can see Mattelow coming. Yeah, Mattel, I think, would be a pretty neat thing. And it allows Lex to come back in some way, too. Like, you keep Lex as kind of a through line.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah. It would be pretty sweet. Actually, he's in the Super Friends movie. if you have Lex, show the anti-hero side of Lex where you might have to help. Yeah, and I definitely think presidential, like we could go that direction with all the government stuff. Yeah, that would be sweet, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I think that's coming. Metall would be cool. Ooh, who would be a good Metallo? I think of them as like Russian or Cold War. David Harbor. Who would be? I was thinking earlier when you talked about Brainiac, Michael C. Hall.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Oh. Or someone else that's like cold and calculating. Fuck, I had someone else with Michael Staling, I forget the other one, but I want like a very good brainiac. Mattallo. He's got to be charismatic but cold. Like you got to be like somewhat interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:44 It can't be boring because it's a very like, could be a 2D character if you don't do it right. People kept saying Mads Mickelson for Doom. What about Brainiac? That could work. Something like that. Someone like that has a chill to him. You know, we finally finish severance season one.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Mitch, who's, who's the character? Oh, Tremel Tillman. Yes, Tramel Tillman. That's fun. I love him. That's like a Bradiac movie. Dude, when he popped up in Mission Impossible, that was my favorite moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Like, the, the gay sub sequence is just so good. I didn't understand it. People were laughing right when he showed up, and I was like, is this guy? Is this guy a comedian? And now you know the power of him. Yeah. And he's great. I think he's so, I mean, I've only seen season one.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah. But he's so good. He is incredible. And he could play charming and sinister. That's a good point. And I was like, oh, man, he should be a more movie. movies. Yeah. I'd love, I mean, it's, it's not just because he's a jacked black guy that's like six foot tall, but I thought he'd be a great bishop, like looks like a commanding presence that is like cold
Starting point is 01:25:45 calculating, but you kind of want him to like you. Yeah, yeah. Well, I like his ear, I like his eerie reservedness. Yeah. You know, um, with a like there's always a bit of a slight smile. And then he's not smiling. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. The softness is, is unsettling. He's fantastic. And that's why I think he, I think he, I think he would. would be actually a surprisingly good brainiac i like that well we like that gang all right thank you richard keep the tradition going where you take a black person and you put them in a bunch of makeup i mean green him we also had some harry lennox fancasts for braniac in the chat just jump over just a transfer i forgot about green ham
Starting point is 01:26:29 yeah that's good thing green face all right captain never maybe maybe not then Yeah, we should maybe not always do that. Let's paint some white people green. I just, I hear Michael Cial's voice and I'm like, that's brainiac. Yeah. That dude is so intense. And he's literally calculating. Like, he is so, like, methodical and mathematical.
Starting point is 01:26:50 And it seems like he likes money now. He does like money now. Like, this is going to be a show eventually called Dexter Forever. You know, like, that's what it's become. Talking to him, I interviewed him for The Hother Reporter at Comic Con. And it was so intense because he, like I'm a huge Dexter fan no spoilers he's only on season three now I have been a Dexter fan since season one it's the first DVD I remember buying after smallville like I had small
Starting point is 01:27:14 ville and Dexter that was all the DVDs I own for shows and uh Michael Cial comes in and immediately I'm like that's that's the guy that like basically I consider that my soprano's like that was my first adult show like and I asked to cast that I was like what was your guy's first adult show and they love that question because they all got to like reminisce and I find that helps people open up to tell news like we do on our our various interviews I did that with this Michael C. Hall question, but Michael C. all walked in by himself first, and like no handlers just came in by himself, sat down in a little director's chair, crossed his arm, and closed his eyes, and started meditating. And I was like, do I say hi? Do I acknowledge? Do I, what do I do? Dexter's here?
Starting point is 01:27:53 And then David D. Maltrow came in, gave me a big hug, started spinning me around and, like, broke the tension. But for like 20 seconds, it was just me and a silent Michael C. Hall. And I was like, brainiac. David D. D.maltzum would be a good brainiac. And he's, like, in the family. He'd be an amazing brainiac. I'm just stuck on Michael Ska, but he would be amazing. He's also good at Russian. Be good to tell him.
Starting point is 01:28:13 But, yeah, I love both those men. Hashtag. I would love Desmaltzmaltz. Oh, yeah. What we got next? We got to move a tiny bit to make sure we end on time. But I like the more calm question. I could use a calm day.
Starting point is 01:28:32 John, your mic is not audible. Chillax Day at the podcast, Captain Fernandez. Thank you for chiming in. Why do you think gunning company are struggling to bring the authority to life? Is it the tone of the comics, the Midnighter, and Apollo relationship? I think it is the Disney situation. Why? I think Disney made a Captain America 4 that had something to say,
Starting point is 01:28:59 and then we lost democracy. and I think that the authority would be hard to make in a world where evil triumphs. There is a shift in Hollywood going on, right? It seems like to get the tiniest bit of political without shoving a political opinion is that movies were Hollywood and movies were like representation, very anti-Trump. and then now they're like we have to stop doing that at all costs now because we are losing money you know
Starting point is 01:29:38 that's why I think it's yeah it seems like there's that cultural shift to not get political yeah I just don't think you can make that movie right now yeah there was I think a few years ago you could but now they're they're assessing and they're like is this why we're failing is this it
Starting point is 01:29:55 you know and it very well could be that too much of the messaging started feeling like pandering. And I don't want anything to feel heavy-handed. You know, I don't think that's good. And I don't think we, I just don't think we should not critique anything. But I think there is critiques to be made for everyone in power. But I think that story in particular would be tricky to make right now.
Starting point is 01:30:19 I mean, even when you look at Superman 2025, like so much of the conversation became about Gunn, is he commentating on, you know, Israel and Gaza, you know, and. And so it's really easy to take real-world things and apply it, which I think is effective. I think it's important to have a conversation. It's important. Yeah, exactly. At the same time, something might seem a little too, like, the optics around authority, I think, could lend itself just in lead up. It's so direct.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Yeah. And then that's, again, not me knowing anything. And this is not me having any behind-the-scenes knowledge. It's just when I think of the authority, the words the authority right now are not going to resonate well with people making something that's anti-authority. But, you know. you know what's the odd duck and i just brought up the comic earlier the boys the boys is very anti-right like they take jabs at both it's pretty obviously it's a left-leaning voice that is doing the show and it's crazy how much of a phenomenon that show is and and uh the hate
Starting point is 01:31:22 from the the right side does not actually overpower the conversation ever and it's it's a huge show. That show has a lot to say. It has and it's a super, it's a comic book-based show. So there is a world where you can do it. I don't think that show gets greenlit right now. No, no, it's because it's a few seasons in there. Yeah, that show was
Starting point is 01:31:43 that show's been going. It's the fifth season. I think it's been going for eight years. And it didn't start off that way. No. It was more of a commentary on like movies. Yeah, it was more the studio. And then they decided, we're going to do it all about politics. Well, the comic is pretty charged at everything. And I think I think Eric Kripke just realized the
Starting point is 01:31:59 weapon he had in his back pocket. But again, I think that we need commentary on all the evils, not directing at one side of the other. I think we need to look at power structures being problematic. And I think the authority could do that, but I don't know if right now would be the time to make it. It's different to for a movie versus a television show. Uh-huh. A very different ask. So I think, I mean, that, and that's just my opinion. It's just when I think of why that might be hard, that's what I would assume. Yeah, fair enough. Thanks for the question. We're canceled now. Yep, that's it. Curtains. Well, it's good you're canceled because we have a moment of silence to reflect upon your smoldering careers from Chrissy artist.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Thank you, Chrissy. Thank you, Chrissy. All right. Frida's next. Thank you, Frida, for chiming in. Many DC and MCU fans are hating on each other. It would be more fun for everyone if we could all get together and just celebrate comic book movies. That's why I put in the thumbnail, the new saga begins.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Yeah, I think it's all a celebration. And I think even with the asterisk on box office, I think we got a fantastic four, Thunderbolts and Cap 4 movie this year. I think we got a Superman launching a universe this year. I think we still have the rest of the year of Marvel Zombies, a Wonder Man, and lots of things to celebrate in the comics themselves, including the first Marvel DC crossover in a decade starting in September.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Lots to celebrate. I agree. Marvel Zombies comes out September 24th. Yeah? Yep. I'm back. learned it today all right i'll be there for that yeah i'm excited we also got comic book shows that are not like i keep bringing it up uh like boys gen v season two season two comes out in just a few weeks yeah you know uh i want i want more like that you know i want more of stuff that's
Starting point is 01:33:45 i want more umbrella academies you know i want more of shit that's not marvel in dc i want more Marvel and DC, but I want more of these other things that are obviously comic book properties, but not part of Marvel and DC generally. I mean, I do think there will be a reaction to how the box office is doing about new stuff getting greenlit in that tone, but I'm really curious how that affects TV in the next few years or if it'll be like, we'll look back like, oh, things started to taper off. Yeah. Event TV, man. Event TV happens more than event movies. Mm-hmm. That they do. Thank you. Frida. Ragged Rec has this to say.
Starting point is 01:34:20 If you ever watched Dollhouse, I think Alan Tudick would make an awesome Brainiac. A lot of people. You could put a lot of people in the Brainiac role. It would be very different depending on you put, but it's a very fun role for a Shakespeare actor. Yeah, especially because Brainiac, you can morph how he looks. Yeah. So you can put a lot of different people in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Whereas, you know, with other characters whose faces and features are more... Specific to... Yeah, who they are. Yeah, I mean, I just picture a cold calculating, but something about him that makes him interesting beyond the cold. That's why Michael C. Hall is my, like, I just, he is the most captivating mechanical delivery. Like, when he speaks, it's so cold, but you're like, tell me more. Well, have you seen Dexter Original Son?
Starting point is 01:35:02 No. That's the prequel, right? Surprisingly works. Surprisingly enjoyable. Feels a little like cosplay in the first couple episodes, but eventually it becomes like... You adjust. Surprisingly works really well, and surprisingly it has moments like, oh, shit, what's going to happen next? Even though it's a prequel.
Starting point is 01:35:18 I assume this guy makes it. It's Dexter Morgan, but it's surprisingly interesting and engaging. And the guy who's playing Dexter is doing a really good job. But there's something Michael C. Hall has because he's doing somewhere between an embodiment of what Michael C. Hall is doing because he has to try to capture the cadence and it's Michael C. Hall and then do his own thing. But Michael C. Hall has something that him, Ryan Gossling has. Johnny Depp, I thought, can be fucking phenomenal at, too.
Starting point is 01:35:47 The eyes. he's got a lot behind the eyes and if there's one thing Brainiac would need you need the eyes yeah no matter how much morphing you do and makeup and all that bullshit or CGI those eyes have to communicate yeah yeah yeah I think Michael's
Starting point is 01:36:02 that's why I would like Michael's I think he's perfect so I think David Al Smallchon would be really who also is so much beyond the eyes yeah he is so captivating there's a language language behind the eyeballs language of the eyes
Starting point is 01:36:15 thank you ragged wreck Richard Lloyd is back do you think Superboy will be in one of the films? I think like down the line maybe but I wouldn't want them in the first three you know I think we still have it's not a year one Superman we still have a young
Starting point is 01:36:31 Superman so I don't know if I'd want to throw in Connell is one of my favorite characters in DC I love Connell Kyle Rainer and Connell are how I got into DC it was the early 90s and I was like four but I don't think soon. Okay, fair enough. I think a clone of Lex Luthor and Superman
Starting point is 01:36:52 be a little weird right now. Yeah, a little bit. John, we can't hear you. Sorry about that. All right, there we go. Dudo Alvarez. I'm just trying to keep all the junk out of your ears. Guys, guys, what do you think
Starting point is 01:37:08 about the BTS of the monologue scene with James and David? Personally, it moved me a lot. I love this Superman. Have you seen it? I have. I think it is, we need more of this kind of BTS. So if you guys haven't seen it, it is the big monologue scene
Starting point is 01:37:25 when Superman is like, I am human, more, this is what makes me human in the Superman thing. And David Corn Sweat and James Gunn were having a lot of differences on how it should go down. And James Gunn really had to articulate his reasoning and vision to him. And it's that kind of BTS is so cool because it's a creative process and it shows how to handle disagreements and conflicts
Starting point is 01:37:51 which happens so much of the time with directors and actors and a big part of directing is how to communicate with your actors it's really hard especially when an actor wants to know why behind every line he does because David Cornswood is very particular so makes him a great Superman and yeah I thought it was a very moving thing and I think it demonstrates how well James Gunn knows Superman and how a character-driven attuned James Gunn is. That's the one thing I'll tease about Peacemaker,
Starting point is 01:38:21 is that as much as the trailers are teasing you with a bunch of crazy shenanigans that will go down, it's more character-driven. Yeah. I would say it shows the strength of both corn, sweat, and Gunn at the height of what they do because it's such an intense scene, so you have to be a great actor. Gunn is hearing and fielding very fair questions, but is so sure of his vision.
Starting point is 01:38:42 and I love seeing someone that knows what they want can articulate it and someone that has a separate vision and in real time realize, oh, I see what you're saying. Like you see light bulbs going off on both parties. I think BTS that isn't just people sitting in chairs going, you know, like I love seeing actual set.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Because that's one of the only things I miss by being an actor was the set energy is unlike anything else. There's so much creativity happening. It feels like a documentary when you're looking at that. Yeah. And a lot of times, I get, I don't watch BTS that often actually. And because it got boring to me.
Starting point is 01:39:14 It was like, yeah. It's also sterile. So it sets and interviews. It's so controlled. But it's like to watch like a documentation of a very important scene. I was surprised they were like so comfortable with the cameras. Yeah. Because there was another round of cameras.
Starting point is 01:39:29 They were just going at it. That is a kind of conversation you normally don't see. Sometimes I don't even see it in front of the crew. Yeah. Like it's very open. Exactly. I was very impressed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:38 I love that moment. I think I think that could open the door for a lot more. I want way more. And it's an hour long, like this behind the scenes. There's tons of it. I want more stuff like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:48 You know, Jose, don't worry about it. Johnny. I'll just deal with the noises. Jose, don't worry about it. Assuming that Peter is in a dark place going into a brand new day. And if Mr. Negative is a villain, do you think a symbiote plot would be doing too much or would fit or would it fit? If they're trying to do all of those day to days and negative and Venom,
Starting point is 01:40:17 I hope Venom is only like right before post credit or post credit. But I trust this team. So I'm very in for whatever they cook up. Like I'm going in very hopeful. Do you think I'll tie into the Venom movie? Venom 3? No. I think they're going to go through.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Okay. Like, I think the PlayStation 2 cutscenes with null will never see the light of day again. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah. I love that you were earnest about that. I was like, I do not think, I don't think anything from Madam Webb Craven or Venom will ever be utilized again. Yeah, I mean, now that you put it in that context, it does sound like it would be an awful lot. It is a lot. I'm like, oh, there's symbiote and there's Punisher and there's Hulk and.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Scorpion and Mr. Negative and ramrod and tarantula and. But I'm hoping a lot as a montage. But I still don't think big villain-wise, you want anything more than a cameo personally from Venom. And the last thing I want is like another symbiote villain that is a second villain. Don't waste Venom. Like if you're going to do Venom, you should finally do your true Spider-Man versus Venom.
Starting point is 01:41:36 And Secret Wars is finally happening. We can finally have the symbiote come in the right way. Like, it's actually like this next year. Well, the symbiote was left behind. Did they resolve that in Venom 3? Right? They went to the bar, didn't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:48 And they got it. Multiversal. That's right. Oh, yeah. So the thing wasn't left behind. It's not in the MCU. They got rid of it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:41:56 So it's fine. Which is such a bummer. So, yeah, definitely wouldn't be linked to the Sony ones. No, it's all buttoned up. Okay. Which I would be funny if they, like, wrote that for this movie, they're like, don't let it be lingering. And I'm actually wondering. Because we keep saying Venom, but it's more symbiate.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I don't think Venom will be here. I'd think we'd be cool to introduce a character name to Eddie Brock. Yeah, because I don't think they can use Eddie Brock right now. I think legality-wise, they probably wouldn't be able to. That's messy. Right? Otherwise, I think they would have. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:27 I mean, these are the kind of things where Sony gets final say. Yeah. All righty. Jose, thank you so much. Alex, where is Spider-Man brand-new day? rank in your most anticipated love that they are giving Peter slash Tom curls and is getting more hype than Doomsday. Truly is getting more hype than Doomsday, huh?
Starting point is 01:42:51 I think it should. I think number one for me. I think before the images, Supergirl Woman Tomorrow was number one. I think after the images, I can't stop thinking about some of the shots, like just from BTS. I don't usually share BTS or get excited about BTS. This BTS is blown my mind. well we've had failed crossovers
Starting point is 01:43:11 that's the thing is beyond Marvel like having ones that were not successful yeah you know DC's had ones that are not successful and the crossover thing and cameo thing was once a thing that would sell now audiences across the globe are not as swayed by must see
Starting point is 01:43:33 with that you know sure and doomsday was exciting the day it came out um and people are still excited i'm excited about it but you know it's still in its own way seems like a little typical marvel where spider-man does not literally look like they're really doing something different with their most popular character yeah i agree yeah i mean i i think i'm most excited in the winter for doomsday but i think i'm almost as excited for dune as doomsday. They're out the same day. Spider-Man and Supergirl are
Starting point is 01:44:10 in another league. So, like, that to me says something. The fact that there's not another movie that could come out in June that I could possibly be as hype for Supergirl or July as Spider-Man, but the fact that Dune is even close to Doomsday shows how different my Spider-Man hype is. Yeah, for sure. I agree with you mean.
Starting point is 01:44:27 All righty. Just a heads up, since it is 2 p.m., the super chats are closed. Thanks, John. Yeah. So, if you send a sticker or something like that you can but the full-on question submissions we will have to curtail because we also have stream labs
Starting point is 01:44:43 but let's see we got Jose don't worry about it back in action PS sorry I missed this earlier can the next pod be just an hour of you two flexing I'm going to say there we go give it to us coy you learn my Hulk shirt
Starting point is 01:45:01 so we can get the smash that was actually It's really intense. The editing there. Thanks, man. Good in there. Appreciate, I tried to do just like an epileptic array barrage. There's 10 scoops of creatine before.
Starting point is 01:45:15 I'm down 5.1 pounds. Hell yeah, man. I'm very proud of that. It's not been easy. It's been the hardest cut I've ever done. 10 spoons of spidge. What calories are you on? 12 to 1,400 a day.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I'm trying to get out 2,500 a day. Nice. So it's been like a thousand calorie cut a day. And I've been, I mean, clearly I'm doing it because 3,500 calories to burn a pound of fat. I see it in your face. I see it in your face. shape I'm getting there 5.1 and I got 15. You're more in. You're like the
Starting point is 01:45:40 severance elevator. Severance. Severed from that fat. You're severed. Yeah. I severed self-cut them LPs. The afternoon and think coins. My innie is cookie dough. My Audi wants gains. Dramatic shallow
Starting point is 01:45:59 Howl remake. All right. Alex, thank you for chiming into the chat. Alex wants to know your thoughts on the rumor of Joe Kiri playing Harry Osborne. Oh, really? That's the rumor? Yeah. I think he would be a really solid fit.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I think he's so the right tone. And I also think that he can go dark and he hasn't gotten to yet. And I think that he's not forget he started off dark, though, on Stranger Things. You're right. He did. And then he became light. He loved me. He's my favorite character on Stranger Things.
Starting point is 01:46:34 I know. He's a big surprise. I think he is an example of process of discovery. Yeah, because he wasn't cast for that. Jesse from Breaking Bad, process of discovery, you know, and Joe Kerry is there too. I like the Jesse example because it's like, he was supposed to die. Why'd they keep him? That's not part of the plan.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Yeah. Cut to Eric Paul. Like, Joe Kerry, I think he's got the hair. I think it'd be fun to see that Harry Osborne with luscious hair in a different way. I'd love it. I'm in. Harry Osborne. That's right.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Yeah, I think Joe Kerry has a lot of untapped potential. He's fantastic. Yeah. Oh, I would love him as Harry Oswald. And him and Tom Holland probably have great chemistry. But dude, you know, fucking Coleman Domingo and your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man really did sell me that he should be live-action, Norman.
Starting point is 01:47:19 I think that would be, and it might get more people to watch a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. But yeah, I feel like he should be live-action. People love Coleman Domingo. He's great. Love for a reason. He's an exciting actor, man.
Starting point is 01:47:32 He's an amazing actor. Yeah. Damsin-E-Drew. for Harry Osborne. Yeah, that'd be really interesting. I think he's going to play Tachala already, though. Okay, that's fine. Joke you.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Tichari. All right, Kung Fu Hot Dog. Thank you for chiming. And Kung Fu has this to say, hey, Koi. Hi. Since you read a few hundred comics a week, how many of the old school Marvel titles from the 1970s have you re-read?
Starting point is 01:47:58 Rread? And which is your fate? I read 50 to 70 comics a week because I'm reading about 50 new comics from every studio, every publisher, than about 20 I try to read for the news. So I've been reading a brand new day and I've been playing around with,
Starting point is 01:48:13 I'm going to start Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow probably in like April. Like I like to time it with the releases. But the 70s have not been tapped as much. I do love some of the 70s Spider-Man stuff. There's some really fun gang war stuff with Hammerhead that I really like that I might read leading up to brand new day for that tone.
Starting point is 01:48:31 70s comics weren't as much by jam as 60s and 80. it's literally the decade that I am the least invested in because the 60s were where all the characters I love got introduced or a lot of them were the 80s was a really interesting commentary where they started letting the writers really write true to life like I found a lot of the 80s stuff to be like New York at the time was Daredevil and like Frank Miller changed everything and like Alan Moore came in so I'm a sucker for those times so 70s is kind of my weak spot to be honest wow and then in the 90s I was just buying them like the 90s was like when I was like So I know the 90s. So to be honest, do they any decades, 70s want to know the least. I have follow questions, but I don't want to derail it too much. I know we've got to get out of here on time. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Thank you, Kung Fu Hot Dog. Kyle Anderson wants to know, hey, guys. Do you think they are using brand new day to introduce the new gangs as a way to lead up to Kingpin in this trilogy? Definitely. Definitely. Excellent. Also, you need to come to, you need to come to, I'm going to say, that's Minnesota
Starting point is 01:49:34 conventions sometime would love to meet you i think i think there's something more exciting about going to like comic books like there's a comic book store in colorado i love to go to and there's something more excited to me about that than like the big cities you know like a new york or l a really so the idea of like going to a convention where it's more local people because like people travel for like san diego in new york but the ones that are more local there's a there's a there's a vibe there that I feel like there's an authenticity to getting an experience of the kind of people here. I do love like Megacon, Fan Expo Boston.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Like those cons were that. Yeah, MegaConn's the biggest of the regional. Like it's almost New York Comic Con. But like Fan Expo Boston was like all my people at a con. I agree with that. I mean, I think I would love if we eventually did like live events and did stuff that was like traveling. So like Oxnard, California.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Yeah. Yeah, going to Oxnard. Everyone's favorite city in California. I'll take you where you've never been. It's near Ventura, Oxnard. I love Ventura, California. But yeah, I'd be down. Like, I'd go to Minnesota in the not winter.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Yeah, that'd be fun. I'd like that. We should go to, like, the Mov. We should go to North Dakota. We should go to some of the road. We get a little RV and we just random state. Paint rejects on the side of an RV and just go care of it.
Starting point is 01:50:52 I genuinely would love an RV. That's a, that's a goal. Really? I love an RV, yeah. All these. superchats are going toward Greg's airstream channel with no name wants to know
Starting point is 01:51:03 I like the phase or says this I like the phase reveals to be honest when they have a plan in mind plus even when they announce a phase they still find time to pivot within them personally I think plans change I think I think
Starting point is 01:51:18 expectation is usually going to hurt more than help I think that fan entitlement is taken over fan appreciation and if something goes wrong those people will be louder than people that are excited to get the thing they were promised. I think if they're never
Starting point is 01:51:35 promised anything, then it's just exciting to get the thing. I think it's an easier loss if you announce too much. Let me see again. Yeah. I mean, Marvel kind of thrives off of it. Specifically Marvel. Thrived.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Yes. Marvel thrived But that's the thing is I love when Marvel's doing well Fantastic Force should have done better It's so good Thunderbolts is exceptional But I don't think
Starting point is 01:52:06 That we should look at the climate Presently as we did before But I think that's every studio Like the argument that I had last week Was that like I literally heard the quote That 800 million is the new one billion When it was referring to Jurassic World
Starting point is 01:52:19 That doesn't mean it's made 200 million more The bar changed And that's all I was trying to say last week everything the bar changed and that was everybody was uh you know tagging me when it passed 800 million i was like you're making my point for me yes well i think uh i think i think i think i lost my point i think i lost my i had i had i was like oh i have a train of thought here that i can't wait to i lost it yeah comment in the chat i watched it go away oh what i was going to say is that I feel like it would be kind of exciting if they did, let's say they only announced Secret Wars and then everything else, they said like, here's the, we have five movies, but they were all not revealed.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And then a trailer comes out. You're like, oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, then it would be like an event. Yes. You like you don't.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Have anchors. Have the no, have no. People know, here's what we're building to, but don't let them in on what we are, they're making. Yeah. And that way when the trailer comes out, it's like, holy shit. Imagine getting to react to a trailer that we didn't know existed until that day. Yeah, it's like even, I mean, that's what they were aiming for with doomsday with their chairs was. They just called it announcement and no one knew what it was.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Yeah. But yeah, I think that would be really exciting. I agree. All right. Channel with no name. Thank you so much. Nick is next. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Love all your work. Would you consider continuing your Superman and lowest reactions? You only had two seasons left. And I think you'd love it. You only have two seasons. Only had two seasons. And they have all that time and money to put down for it. I appreciate what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:53:59 And I know on the flip side, it looks like it would just be, you know, 24 hours of our time. But it is that is not the case. It's like this much the iceberg. There's like this much beneath it. Yeah, every one of these. As much as we, the reason we're able to produce the way we do is because we have a team not in this country that is works when we're supposed to be asleep. That's why we're able to do what we're doing, but generally, no, it is, it's already a very long hours. It'd be hard to fit in, and it probably wouldn't pay off in terms of even a break-even point.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Yeah, unfortunately. And that's why we had to stop before, because it wasn't. It was leading to so many re-edits and blocks, and it was a pain in the ass. And then it's like, we're not even getting patrons from this and stuff. And it's, and that's the thing is that when it, I don't like it when things become about money, but when you're putting money in, it starts ruining the enjoyment experience of the thing. you just want to enjoy. So I'd rather just enjoy the thing
Starting point is 01:54:54 than be concerned about the financials around it. Focus on lighting money on fire. Yeah. Unfeasant 11 wants to know what DC Marvel backup crossover are you most excited for? For me, it's GA and D.D. Constantine and Dr. Strange.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Just got announced. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so excited for that. That's pretty great. Yeah. Yeah, that's going to, like, September.
Starting point is 01:55:18 That's nice month. That's going to be freaking sweet. So excited for comedy. I can't wait. I can't wait so they do Constantine proper. Yes. That's my biggest, like, unannounced thing. If anyone asks, like, what your DC thing that hasn't been? Constantine. Yeah, that would be sweet. Wanted so bad.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Jacob Allorty. Of course. Noted Brit. Jacob Allorty. Go for it. Yeah, Paul Meskell. Here we go. All right. It's Christian Harloff. Wow. We know him. All right. Who is your ideal Batman right now?
Starting point is 01:55:48 And Greg, I miss you. Coy. You're all right. You missed me. I'll see Greg. I'll see Christian soon. I've been terrible at responding. I've only been responding to like, I need to talk to this person today.
Starting point is 01:56:01 That's true. It took Greg two days to get back to me. It usually is like two hours. It's been awful. It's been awful. Yeah. Sorry, Christian. I'll catch up on our messages.
Starting point is 01:56:10 What did you ask? Batman. Who's your ideal Batman right now? I mean, I've been saying it forever. It's Josh Bolin, baby. It's got to be Josh Brolin. Jakey Jakes. Oh, you mean for like a, you want it for Brave and Bolt?
Starting point is 01:56:20 Jake Chillon Hall's the right? age to be like a young father he's got such a cool darkness to him he's always in shape i think he'd be i think there's a reason he's auditioned like five different batman times and i think this is the time i just think he'd be a great batman he would though he would he would he's a billionaire that seems a little crazy yeah jillano's got some darkness to him i do think jensen aackles would be a good batman um but yeah jake jillan hall would be a really good one i i don't know man i i i've sold myself that josh prole you really have it i love that you're like i'm committed because i have one vision yeah you're like a casting director's like i will take no other calls i hit i think you be perfect
Starting point is 01:56:56 i just think you be perfect i just picture prisoners jillen hall and i go like batman yeah like that's a broken man that like has capabilities best jillen hall so good and then night crawler jillen hall thrown in there god damn josh perlin's voice and intensity can he just imagine like that like looking at his mouth with the cowl like a lot but he's getting intense oh god he's got such a big head which a good look at her on a cowl yeah have you have you met Josh. No. He's so disproportionate in a cool way.
Starting point is 01:57:24 He looks like in a positive. He just looks like a tank. Yeah, yeah. He's just so like, like a Frank Miller drawing. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, I see it. You just said it. He's a Frank Miller drawing.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I see the vision. And he goes everywhere saying, br-ha-h-h-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Snapping his gauntlets. Thanks, Christian. Nick Alexander, thank you for chiming in. Saw Superman again last night. Love it.
Starting point is 01:57:46 It was my friend's first time, and he loved it, too. So ready for the saga and more DC. you. Brainiac is confirmed. What part do you think he will have in the saga? Brainiac is not confirmed. So there was the super friends, super family image. It's a drawing. Yeah, super family image that they drew for to illustrate like the youth of James Gunn. They did that for the behind the scenes. That wasn't an actual concept art that went unused. But yeah, just want to clarify that. And we're fancasting Brainiac because we hope that's a thing. but yeah yes uh what part do you think will have in the saw with me as my it was my pitch earlier i think
Starting point is 01:58:25 he will be the villain for uh superman and supergirl to go up against because of how it linked i think he will be the reason krypton was destroyed i i feel like that would just be more powerful too i feel like there should be some history with him in um car car not uh not jorrell him and jorra i think there should be a little bit of history there it's that i mean and the animated show was that they created brainiac and then it got out of control which would be very very well relevant yeah yeah for all my concerns yeah that they created that they created the thing that destroyed their planet yeah that would be pretty sinister and very relevant I'd love it even more topical brainiac yeah all right but the thing is like brainiac wiped out fast whereas like
Starting point is 01:59:08 in supergirl woman of tomorrow is like a slow deterioration and then we haven't seen any yet we don't know what you take they'll go with yeah I think they have to do more of a long one though so you she simmers have the torture yeah all righty thank you nick pl d what up friend of the channel pld projects hey buddy works with us man he does he is a instrumental any song or artist you want for a gun needle drop give me queen please um i just got tickets to see her and i want her to get even more popular dochi. Huh. You think he would do it, Dochi? I think it'd be cool to see, like, a strong
Starting point is 01:59:53 female, like, if we're talking, like, Supergirl, I want, like, you know, obviously, he's not directing it, but I'm thinking of, like, anthems, and I think I, like, Missy Elliott and Dochi and, like, anthem rappers would be cool. I don't associate him a lot with new songs. He's definitely like a 70s guy. I mean, but, like, Foxy Shazam
Starting point is 02:00:09 is, um, uh, a new group, and they just have a 70 sound. Yeah. So, like, that's definitely more his thing. Well, on the heels of Ozzy Osbourne's passing, the peacemaker trailer used an Ozzy Osbourne song. I think using Ozzy Osmore would be pretty sweet. That'd be cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Is this in anything or just broadly? Anything at all? I mean, he already used the chain. Yeah, very well. But I think cranberries would be cool. Oh, I could see cranberries in Supergirl. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:45 It's not really a James Gunn thing But I think that'd be cool I guess I just want a female artist For some reason I've wanted white zombie In a comic movie in a long time I think a Lobo listening to Like a white zombie deal with Lobo
Starting point is 02:00:58 White zombie's good That'd be dope We love a white zombie Some prodigy I always want prodigy in my movies That'd be amazing Absolutely leave them down below gang All right
Starting point is 02:01:07 Sir 7AE or Surzay I'm not sure which Just asking for an opinion Do you think That superhero movies in general should stop filming in public specifically Marvel movies I think there's scenes they shouldn't film in public
Starting point is 02:01:20 yeah I think story elements shouldn't be filmed in public but I think we need more practical effects so I think the public's gonna look great in Spider-Man I think involving the public is a weird smart maneuver honestly it is like in the day and age and social media has like really blurred the line between
Starting point is 02:01:38 there used to be like a distance between celebrity and and a viewer or audience member now it's like We have to know we're celebrities. We have to know everything. And I would like more separation, but there's something cool about involving the public and the process that makes it feel like they're putting together an event.
Starting point is 02:01:56 And so I feel like actually it could be a new way we do stuff. As long as it's not story element, I totally agree. I think you should keep some things so we don't piece the movie together before there's even a trailer. But Spider-Man, I think, just is vaguely awesome. Yeah, and the thing is, I've gotten so. the live theater i went to go watch some like it hot at the pantages um and it was brilliant it was amazing there's the actual broadway people who came over and there's something remarkable
Starting point is 02:02:27 about like anything can go wrong yeah you know and i think that's the excitement of seeing the practicality and then we watch like the change of sets and the costumes and dancing everything like that there's there's there's a thrill to it and that's the thrill of seeing the practicality of what they're doing on Spider-Man. So I think involving the public is actually going to be a great thing for them. Yeah, I agree. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Thank you, gang. PLD's back. They are talking about a weapons prequel, possibly. Can we get Mr. Amy Madigan in the prequel? I know what they're talking about. I want to ruin it for John and Coy, but I don't, I personally am, like, there's this basically a character
Starting point is 02:03:08 where they were going to show the backstory of them in the show in the movie, but then Jack Krieger cut it out of the movie in the script he didn't even film it um i feel like the what makes it really compelling is the fact that we don't know the full backstory and i think it would undermine the experience if we did get the full backstory and the backstory that he had was only meant to be a part of a movie then i feel like it might be an unnecessary expansion and then it becomes like an IP thing that ruins the first one i i don't personally think they should do it that's just my opinion all righty and uh blur and eel drop for me please
Starting point is 02:03:42 Alan Smithy. Yo. Thank you, Alan. Yo, Rejects. Love watching your channel. Watch your nobody reaction. Remember when J.T.E. and Craig the Barbarian trained with the stunt crew of nobody and did an action scene video where they kick ass.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Were you part of that, boy? I did the bullet train one. Similar team. 87, or it's my favorite stunt team. Yeah, they'd love to do that shit. That's cool. Nice. And we were at the water park event for nobody, too.
Starting point is 02:04:08 And they were doing like a bunch of action stuff there the whole time as well. Those guys are great. Derek Kulstad and like the whole David Leach team. Kelly, David Leach and his wife, Kelly, have an actual stunt academy here in L.A., and I've done a bunch of events with them. And David Leach is, I would credit one of the reasons the academy is finally noticing the stunt community in their actual presentation. So a lot of love to that the whole family. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:33 I think people forget that like, when you look at when the stunt stuff happened, it was two things, I believe. the combination of Jackie Chan in the 90s and the Matrix. Oh, yeah, huge. Those were the two, where it's like Jackie Chan became famous for being the guy who does his own stunts. We wouldn't have Tom Cruise today if it wasn't for him. Honestly, like he was already around Tom Cruise,
Starting point is 02:04:54 but we wouldn't have the Tom Cruise we have now for wasn't for Jackie Chan. And then the Matrix showed, we can train her actually to be the fighters. And I think the 87 North team is doing a really good job with like, you know, the every man of Bob Odenkirk and then the like wish fulfillment of Keanu Reeves. And they get smart to do both. And Chad Sehelsky was Keonridge's stunt double
Starting point is 02:05:10 Yeah, for The Matrix. David Leach was Brad Pitt's stunt double. Yeah, there you go. So that's really where this shit's actually started, you know. Absolutely. All right. Both are great dudes too, Chad and David Laird. Sir 7A.E.
Starting point is 02:05:27 Surze, Marvel Zombies is looking promising. It premieres September 24th, four episodes. I remember. Releases. Oh, weekly, cool. Rated TVMA due to swearing blood and brutal. character deaths. I'm personally excited for it.
Starting point is 02:05:42 Me too. I feel like it would actually be a really good movie, a really good show. Yeah, I mean, I didn't love what if as much as I wanted, so I'm hoping one of these animations outside of Spider-Man and X-Men get me because those are kind of like my built-ins. Like, it's hard for me to imagine a world
Starting point is 02:05:57 where I didn't like X-Men 97. I didn't think I'd like it as much, but Marvel zombies, I'd like to be proven I can love, you know, something in that vein. One second. Can you tow? I'm saying we're behind due to the stream but we could probably wrap us up in a solid 10 minutes.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Yeah, we got this. All right, what's next, John? All right, thank you, sir, seven. All right, Charles Flicks Fix, Olivia and Greg, together movie reaction. Well, that's cute. I actually want to do a let's play with her. I want to do video game stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:30 But yeah, I would like to, that'd be fun to do another movie reaction with Olivia. Absolutely. I haven't done one a while. Last time I think we did was, uh, Uh, oh, anyone but you. That was great. That was fun.
Starting point is 02:06:41 The romantic comedy. So switched up to a romantic horror. We went from Ironcloth to anyone but you. Wow. Because she's a huge wrestling fan. And she was perfect for both of those. I loved her on both of those. She made somebody funny comments.
Starting point is 02:06:55 She makes me laugh so much. All right. Together's cute. That'd be fun. Nerds engage. You have to delete all movie news channels, including the real rejects. Which do you keep? Which one do you keep?
Starting point is 02:07:08 I'd keep the real rejects. I'd keep the real rejects. I'd like to continue to share my zeal and eat. Assuming you can't choose real reels. I would keep the weekly planet podcast. That's the one I would keep. It's a good pick. Mr. Sunday movies.
Starting point is 02:07:27 James and Mesao. Those would be my favorites. What's the phraseology? Movie news. You have to delete all movie news channels, including the real rejects. I don't really, I check discussing film. What I get to keep them? They don't have, like, a podcast, though.
Starting point is 02:07:41 Diary of CEO, they've talked about movies occasionally. I don't like listen to movie podcasts. So, real rejects. There you go. No entertainment, all access for Koi. All righty. Tori, Jerry, an adjacent side quest to Superman. What's your favorite season of Small Villain?
Starting point is 02:07:57 Why? Oh, boy, go for. First one. It's so special. It's so formative. Like, it really showed me that someone else saw these characters like I did. And it, like, you know, it has some special effects to work through. It has some acting to work through.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Like, they're definitely, like, starting out. So I would say, like, three or four. But one, obviously, without one, you don't get to three or four. But Tom Welling, as Lex was so great. And it introduces, like, so many villains in one season at Smallville. Just season one, but just and forward. All of them are great. I would like to watch Smallville.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Dude, it's so good. On my own. Let me stop you right now. Reaction. I would like to watch Smallville, too. On camera. I have them all on DVD. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:37 All right. Thank you so much, Tori, sci-fi extremist, oft contributor. Hey, guys, curious if you have any excitement, interest, or curiosity in the new Power Rangers show being worked on. And if PR Power Rangers is a franchise you like or liked. We just launched a xenomorph in time shirt. Yeah, because I love Power Rangers growing up. I don't know anything about this new Power Rangers show, actually. New series? What are they talking about?
Starting point is 02:09:05 Oh, it's in development for Disney Plus from the people who did. did Percy Jackson, the Olympians. They could probably do something pretty cool. Power Rangers has a weird history, especially with the way they treated their actors. I think if there's anything they got to get down is that. I think it's an opportunity to reinvent it to be something that would have lighthearted fare,
Starting point is 02:09:26 but with really cool martial arts scenes. That's one thing that Power Rangers doesn't get enough credit for. For a television show, surprisingly great fucking choreography for a television show. Like cheesy as hell. But I think what I don't want them to do is fall into the trap of the movie they did where they were like, let's go all broody and heavy. Because then it becomes laughable in a different way. I would want them to keep the charm and the whimsy, but actually make something kind of cool.
Starting point is 02:09:56 And maybe a little bit irreverent, actually. I love the original series. I fell off, like, you know, as I got older, it's not a franchise I kept up with as I got older. um i'm kind of torn because uh it's i befriended jason david jason david frank through the cons world and like he was the only one that would be up working out with me at like seven or eight a m and um it's it's hard for me to watch it now because like dude was my power ranger like green ranger and white ranger was my whole childhood and like to get to know the dude through cons and stuff and work out with them like that was really personal so now when i think of like someone else playing the greener white ranger
Starting point is 02:10:31 i'm like no and it's like that weird possessiveness so i'm like Don't touch that character, but that's the cool one. So I'm very torn. Strange times, strange times. Strange times. Strange times. Saint 53. Man, we still got 730 people watching right now. That's insane.
Starting point is 02:10:46 Popular girls. All right. Some people might think there's a big numbers for me. I compared to what we, for something where we don't go live that often. To me, that's huge. It's a thousand people. I mean, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsz, he had 1.3 million online. That's nutty professor.
Starting point is 02:11:04 We're doing our best. I'm glad they could hold that up bandwidth-wise. That's crazy. Anyway, St. 53, in response to my other comment, this doesn't mean I don't like classic Superman.
Starting point is 02:11:14 I just enjoyed Snyder's fresh take and was sad that it didn't get to finish. But I'm hopeful the new Superman won't get the same bad treatment from the studio. I didn't think you were disrespecting. No, I don't know, man. I thought it was very tactfully...
Starting point is 02:11:28 This was a very generous fucking super chat. Thank you. It's fucking high. Yeah, so I think both standby. Like I'm stoked people get to love on that one and the new one. So, uh, and I feel like you have the same sentiment, which I appreciate. Absolutely. Let me see that comment one more time. Sorry. Um, um, yeah. You didn't have to clarify that. I mean, you did. Because super chats very generous. But, uh, but I appreciate that. This was necessary. Thank you. I think it's
Starting point is 02:11:56 okay to celebrate both. And I think one day Henry, I would love for Henry Cabell to come. I think If you're so meta, if Henry Cavill was meta, it was a metallo or Brainiac, that would be fucking banana sandwich. I think you'd be a good Mattelow. I think that'd be so cool. I would love it so much. I'd be so happy. All right, Reynaldo Torres Torres. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Do you guys have any meet and greets coming up? Me and the family would love to give our flowers much love. I was thinking about that the other day. I thought we talked about it a while ago and then we never really like. Yeah. We have that one location that we could use. It would be nice to do that again. We haven't done one in a while.
Starting point is 02:12:29 We haven't been an actual live event in a long time. But I would like to do it proper. We have a location. I know some people. So yeah, let me focus on that. Before the holidays or a holiday event. Yeah, well, people. Yes, yes, exactly.
Starting point is 02:12:46 But I think like before we get into the December era of like chaos. Oh, no, November to December is going to be insane. There's, there's a stranger things is releasing on holidays. and there's fallout season two that just got announced and uh percy jackson olympian season two uh ivatar now there's there's a december november to december is going to be freaking bananas yeah not then it's going to be like an insane month so maybe like october something absolutely all right can you check your phone when you get the opportunity i had one question there that don't want to ask on air no all right we don't no no
Starting point is 02:13:28 Unfortunately, but we do have more generous contributions. Kung Fu Dog, hot dog. Gents, your audio is always so good. May I ask what roadcaster or mixer presets are you using? Yes, this is a Roadcaster Pro 2, and these are sure. What is it, M75B or whatever microphone? Those really nice, sure microphones doing a lot of heavy lifting, and they have a preset for the SM7B right on this.
Starting point is 02:13:58 console. So, yeah, minimal processing, just a lot of dulcet tones from the boys. Appreciate you, man. Great question. Absolutely. Appreciate that very much. Omar, O.V.O. If Marvel and DC ever make a crossover film,
Starting point is 02:14:12 which two characters would you most like to see interact or fight? Also, W. Setup. Thank you. It's all John, man. Which two characters would you most like to see interact or fight? I mean, when Iron Man was around, it was Batman and Iron Man that I really wanted to see interact. Like, that's just, like,
Starting point is 02:14:28 sides of the same coin to me man that would be insane um i guess sentry and superman would be fun to look at i'm gonna not go with the parallel i'm gonna go different tones altogether because i think batman'd be so annoyed by him but i want to see batman and spider man oh yeah that'd be fun just like a really like bouncy spider man and batman like what is this yeah and i feel like they've interacted in the comics before and that's fun because they end up getting to respect each other but in the beginning like i would i wouldn't mind like uh death stroke and daredevil oh that's fun Yeah, I could see that. It would just be Punisher and Derrickville.
Starting point is 02:15:00 Yeah, that's just one to one. But yeah, there's so many possibilities. Like, I cannot wait for those comics. They're doing Deadpool and Batman in the comics. Oh, man. There's so many possibilities that you could pull off. But, yeah, I don't know what that would ultimately entail. Shit.
Starting point is 02:15:18 Dr. Manhattan and Batman. Batman and Daredevil, both played by Ben Affleck. Yeah, that would be fun, too. Yeah. All righty. Kenneth Estar. In the live, what crossover would you guys want?
Starting point is 02:15:32 That would be, one day it will happen. Oh, Wonder Woman and Storm. Like talking about goddesses and like being badasses and like that'd be cool. Man,
Starting point is 02:15:42 then the day comes when DC and Marvel crossover, that is going to be, that is truly event cinema. Yeah. $3 billion. Oh man, that'll be massive.
Starting point is 02:15:50 Everyone's going to have to see that movie. I think it is kind of an inevitability. Like, what do you think, 10 years, 15 years? I think when, like we've reached the Western level where it's not hyperbole when it's like we've got one last giant thing
Starting point is 02:16:02 yeah okay all right so no like actual plan it'll be like it'll be like we gotta squeeze this lemon we need to pull the EMP button yeah exactly like movie all righty Kenneth Estoria wants to know coy
Starting point is 02:16:19 chances of seeing Etragan the demon in the DCU I have tried to walk around every time I'm at DC and yell characters I love to try to just subconsciously plant them in people's minds. Etrigan is one of them.
Starting point is 02:16:34 I often just yell characters I enjoy when having conversations hoping it's like, oh, that's a good idea. I think Etrigan is this is called gods and monsters and I do think magic will be an element of that. I think magic is something we don't see a lot in superhero stuff.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Obviously, Dr. Strange, notwithstanding, but like in the overall space and I think demons and all that is something that will come to play. And Etrican is so interesting, I think he'll be there. He, I would love to see Henry Cavill as blood. That would be cool, because he looks so much like the character before he turns into a demon. That'd be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 02:17:10 I don't know this character, but it's cool. He's like an ageless, aristocratic billionaire who turns into a demon and solves mysteries. Okay. That sounds fun. It's awesome. And he only speaks and rive. That would be cool, especially he did. Witcher. That would be sweet. Yeah, I think that's like
Starting point is 02:17:27 his vein. And he speaks in rhyme, which is really fun and playful. Fuck yeah. Absolutely. All right. Cool character. A lot of the Constantine stuff we get to watch. All right, I think we are, I'll do one more refresh, but this may be the last super chat, and then we'll head on over to Stream Labs. Hey guys, Jonas Sorensen
Starting point is 02:17:43 says, love you all. What do you guys think of Superman, of a Superman sequel that is heavily based on Up in the Sky? I would love a self-contained story about Clark Kent as a person and how far he'd be willing to go to save one girl. I love up in the sky, but I love it because we've got 70 years of Superman,
Starting point is 02:18:01 and that was a fun way to, like, isolate Superman. God, bless you. That was intense. A fun way to isolate Superman, but I don't know if I'd want a movie of just, like, what I liked about Superman is it felt so lived in, that was such a world, and I think isolating Superman
Starting point is 02:18:17 in the next five years doesn't make sense. I think down the line, like with the comic, where you have a reason for it, but as much as I love up in the sky, I think the ensemble nature of Superman really made him feel more human. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:32 Let's jump quickly to... I think we should get a Superman movie that really does involve him being an active reporter, though. Like where the worlds do feel necessary and mesh well. Yeah, because Superman 2035 definitely doesn't explore that side of him. And if we should get one where they work in tandem, where he needs to be a reporter in order to pull this off.
Starting point is 02:18:58 You know, that is what I personally would want. And I think Superman, too, it's really easy to go, Superman and Brainiac and all these things and Zod, which is obviously the thing you really show up for. But if you can humanize him down even more so with the necessity and showcase a good reporter, I think that would be fucking sweet.
Starting point is 02:19:17 Yeah, I'd love that. All right. We have a handful here from Dan V9, as well as a few from a couple of other people. So I'm going to do all of Dan's kind of together. If you guys are cool with that. I'm cool. All right.
Starting point is 02:19:31 So Dan says this first. My biggest concern with the DCU is honestly brave and the bold with Damien. I have a very bad feeling Tim Drake is getting skipped. That would be awful. Tim gets underutilized often. There won't be John Kent either when Damien plays off John as his best friend. Yeah. That was the thing I was especially.
Starting point is 02:19:54 earlier is that i think they might be skipping over a little too much bad family stuff um i think it would be compelled i mean it'd be kind of cool to establish a relationship of how we have how the son came to be to too of damien and i think that's going to be part of it uh i i could see your concern and i i definitely think damian and jonathan kent are fun like super friend duo uh and i and i get why you'd want that and i don't think we're getting jonathan kent anytime soon um i'm personally not as worried about Tim because I do think we're getting a lot of Robin in a hurry. And Tim is one of my favorites. But between the dynamic duo movie and everything else, I think we're going to be flush with Robin. I don't know how much we'll miss that. And he might get to be an element down the line.
Starting point is 02:20:36 But yeah, I see your concern. And I think it's just going to be a matter of what direction they decide to go with the Braven the Bold. And we really don't know anything except the title. Fair enough. All right. Dan V goes on to say this is a couple parter specifically geared, I believe, toward Alien. I love the first two Eps of Alien Earth. The alien, the real Alien 3 is the Dark Horse comic series with Outbreak, Nightmare Asylum, and ending at Earth War set after aliens with Ripley and Hicks facing the aliens ultimately on Earth. Alien Earth, if it delivers, will be the third alien live action media I love. Romulus, by default, is the third best film, but the AI monstrosity plus being a Prometheus sequel and being the Force Awakens of alien films doesn't work for me. I trust Noah Hawley if we got his Doom film
Starting point is 02:21:26 I saw the first episode of Alien Earth I got it was so late at night I didn't I only got like 20 minutes into the second episode and I'm coy Aaron and Tara are reacting to the series right now and I was surprised by I don't know Noah Holly's work Terry's a genius um what else has you done
Starting point is 02:21:46 Legion? I haven't seen it Fargo haven't seen it okay so I don't know People always like, Noah Hawley, Noah Hawley, and I don't know his work. Yeah. And I was like, this is a little crookier than I expected. It's fun and dark. Yeah, it's like, it was, I was surprised because it manages to be, bless you, it manages to be alien.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Yeah. But something else entirely. It's a really strange show. And like, it doesn't pull punches from how weird it is. No, it's really weird. And it's heady. That's, I mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:24 And it's, uh, it's such a commentary on corporate corporate America. As Whalen Yutani should be. Yeah. And like the competing side. And the way they're building out the world and, you know, it's kind of weird how like we have Noah Hawley and, uh, Fetty Alvarez to two, two very different filmmakers who are presenting two very different sides of the, uh, alien world. And they seem to be doing a better job than Ridley Scott.
Starting point is 02:22:48 I love that Romulus and this are back to back. because I'm like, oh, wait, this is more than just revitalized. Like, this is the best thing I've seen from a corporate acquisition, ironically, about corporations. Yeah. Yeah, it is weird when we see that, you know. Because Disney's doing a much better job with Alien than Fox had in a long time. Yeah. I think they were just like, it's really God.
Starting point is 02:23:06 He made the original. And they were like, we could do whatever. And they realized it. Maybe not. Don't watch it. Don't watch it. All right. Another couple from Dan V-900 here.
Starting point is 02:23:15 Next one says, Supergirls should have amazing visuals based on the comic. It's Trigid in Space. With the box office, I really feel Supergirl needs to move, being one week after Toy Story 5, one week before Minions 3, two weeks before Moana and three weeks before Odyssey is a gauntlet. Oh, they're up against Odyssey. Yeah, I wasn't worried until you said Odyssey. Because it is late June. Ooh, they should move it. Yeah, I'm going to stick to that.
Starting point is 02:23:45 They should move it. I mean, like, they should have at least a two-week window. We saw what they did with Superman in two weeks. Yeah. I think two weeks would be nice. They should do it. It had four weeks in theater.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Yeah. They should do two. They should have at least a two week window. Are you allergic reaction or something? Yeah. Something's happening. My eyes are red. I'm seeing it.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Yeah. What are you allergic to it? I didn't do anything. I had a cough drop. Yeah. I don't know what just happened. Yeah. Like in the last two hours,
Starting point is 02:24:10 like you were fine. But then like 10 minutes ago, you started like, there was like a five laps of this video. I was going on. Glyze, Koi died. Terra.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Weird. I think that May spot that opened up when Doomsday moved would be great. Again, I'm not at DC in the moment, and like as in, I'm not with them to say anything, but next time I'm there, I'll yell loudly. All right. All righty. Dan V. goes on to say, how do you feel about the authority being tabled? Gunn said that one is on the back burner and kept saying one project didn't have a good enough script where they moved on from it. he may have outed himself in one interview saying, I, the writer is on a new project. I don't think he was referring to himself as the writer in third person.
Starting point is 02:25:01 That's on the new project. But I think the projects were the authority and potentially Sergeant Rock. But Sergeant Rock, they still want to make. I think just not the one that was moving forward as quickly. I mean, we answered this question in depth earlier about why we think it wouldn't be happening. So find that in the video. But I appreciate you, Debbie 900 out. All righty.
Starting point is 02:25:22 Now going back down real quick. We got Daisy. Daisy says this. Hello from Chamonie. Love your videos. Just wanted to tell you that because of you guys talking about Superman, I got into reading comic books. That's what we want to hear, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:25:38 And I've been loving it. Do you have any lesser-known DC comics you want to recommend? Mr. Miracle. That's pretty well known about them. Lesser-known DC comics. I really think you should read the, I mean, it's known, but the Brainiac one that I was recommended from Jeff Johns. I think that's very talented. And it, it's cinematic. The way, when I'm reading it, I was, I was reading, I went to Disneyland and I, I found myself, like,
Starting point is 02:26:05 like, excited to get in line. That's fun. So I could read that from my iPad with me. And I just was like, I want to get back in line so I can keep reading. And I love that you're like in a place that has this kind of imagery. Yeah. Like there's some of that world, like in the Brainiac world, like the tubes and the big structures. Well, I tried doing Kingdom Come when I was there, but I'm like, this is way too heads. This is really hard on my head. Yeah, Alex are awesome.
Starting point is 02:26:31 You're like, but yeah, Superman Brainiac is like easily accessible and just is an exciting run. And you just want to keep going into the next issue. I'm going to say the current Batman dark patterns. It's a really good like detective Batman story that feels like a David Fincher movie. It's very, like, seven. It's very intense, and it's not, like, it's a 12-issue miniseries. And I'd also say old Superboy stuff is wicked fun. Kyle Rainer and Superboy era are slept-on.
Starting point is 02:26:57 Scarecrow Year 1. That's a good one, too. Oh, all the one more day. One bad day, the one-bad day anthology. Any one-bad day is going to treat you well. Yeah. All right. Get the DC Infinite app.
Starting point is 02:27:08 Yeah, yeah, for all that. Thank you so much, Daisy. Ronan Unchained is next. What's up, Rejects? Always wondered if Marvel would ever do titles that they own that aren't superhero space or fantasy example kid cult outlaw milly the model sergeant fury in his howling commandos what do you all think happy to see you at sdcc coy oh hey uh i think that um name recognition is really important so i think a few years ago they tried to do stuff like that
Starting point is 02:27:36 i think dc they even had a stephen spillberg black hawk movie um cooking um uh you know like a decade ago but i think now like brand recognition if you look at what's succeeding at spider man avengers Fantastic 4 didn't even hit what they needed it to. So I think it's all perspective and ebb and flow, but I think if hopefully we get into another age where these are doing as strong as they need to, we can get that. I think Koi is out of focus. He's on automatic focus because your position changes enough that I have to have.
Starting point is 02:28:03 Oh, my bad. Refocusing you. It's fine. It's all good. Stay here. How many more do we have? We are down to the last one. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:13 We got there. All right. Hayden F. this podcast oh this is a nice one end off on two this podcast has been a weekly treat for me the last couple months keep up the great work boys big love oh just niceness just ending a niceness i'll say man um weirdly uh out of anything when people come up to me now it's this podcast i told you gregg connect to the people when i saw fantastic four at universal imax i remember his name max max came up to me he's like i watch your podcast every week yes and
Starting point is 02:28:45 And just yesterday I met someone at an arcane event and he's like, I love the podcast. Yes. And it's it really makes me happy, you know, like I love. It's special. I love doing the reactions. I do. I really love doing the reactions. Sometimes there's reactions I do will have an impact on me.
Starting point is 02:29:00 Greatest showman weirdly and made me, I started spending more time on my wife because of that movie. The, but the podcast is so different from the reactions. It fits, but it's different. And to be able to have a voice and not a face, to not be able for, you know, just reacting, crying or getting excited, you know, like, I'm fine with that because I, all I care about is emotional expression and people being able to share what they think and feel. But particularly this, it's been pretty special. Like when we, like, I had, I hit up coy, I remember calling you.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Like, we were trying to do all these interviews and stuff. And I was like, I think the key to getting more interviews is we should, why don't we just do it our way? I remember calling you and being in the office in my home. And we were both really excited about it. Yeah. And we're here now. And it's undoubtedly, when people come up to me, so many people point out this podcast now. And I'm like, that makes me very, very happy.
Starting point is 02:30:04 Like, even though we only average between like 30 to 40K views, it's pretty good for something that's new for us. Yeah. And counter programming in a way. Yeah. It is, like you said, it is. familiar. It is similar, but it is like the Venn diagram is not that big a circle. Like, there is a difference to this channel. And we normally don't film for
Starting point is 02:30:18 this long, so we become progressively more tired. Yeah, and I get allergic to fucking the air. I don't know what just I thought. The last 20 minutes here, I saw your eyes started around. I just started to break it, dude, and I'm like stuffy now. Yeah, I don't know what happened. And I'm like drooling. Like, I'm like salivating and stuffy and I'm just like falling apart.
Starting point is 02:30:34 We'll have you step outside for a little. Yeah, I just need a little breather. Weird. But yeah, this is my favorite thing I get to do on the channel. And I really appreciate you guys tuning in. the audience growing it is on the smaller side of the channel but it's still a huge audience for us to share our actual thoughts and not just be like venting online like this feels nice and i think because of it we've had more like to be able to get the k-pop demon hunters cast and in here uh was nuts when i was sitting across like wow this this is really uh starting to happen and
Starting point is 02:31:02 i feel like that's only the beginning of us being able to do more of like interviews our way and i think having the podcast allowed for people to see that we can do interview we can have a discussion in our way. And that's a big goal for me. And I know you've fallen in love with it. And I've got a martial arts buddy that wants to come in. So we're going to scheme that for a certain movie about combat. All right.
Starting point is 02:31:23 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. So, yeah. Stay tuned. All right. Well, thank you guys so much for being here. This was an impromptu one.
Starting point is 02:31:35 Appreciate every stream lab and super chat that did come in, especially during a weird fucking week that we've been having here. I just got sick. Yeah. And yeah, yeah, you guys have been amazing. And thank you. And, you know, even seeing numbers like this in our live stream, which might not be like, they're not like campy numbers or some shit, but at the same time, we don't really do these.
Starting point is 02:32:00 So when you guys show up impromptu, that means the world. Thank you so much. And share your feelings and be honest with yourself and have a good day. Thank you. Thank you, John, for everything, too. thank you all for it and if you couldn't contribute that's okay just happy you're here thanks for being here leave a like on your way out yeah thanks gang thanks guys Thank you.

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