The Reel Rejects - SUPERMAN SPOILER TALK!! Cameos, Ending, Post-Credits, Jor-El Twist, & MORE!

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

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We all need someone to make us believe. Hashtag, you got this. So this is Greg's face in the picture. This is your face in the picture. Wait, now it's not connecting, John. This is working on a Saturday face. This is my face. It's almost there.

42-minute drive, working on a Saturday. 11 minutes. And then we will hit live. Pictures up. I am hitting live. Okay. Woo-woo. Then can you lower my, just a tiny bit?

Was it because I just did? I want to do it. She like, whoop. It was always like very loud in my ears. I am loud. Boy, was louder than what I just did. That's impressive. Here we go, yeah, that's great.

Are we live? Are we live or should we be live? We are live. Oh, we're live. Good, that's what I was hoping. Oh, thank you. I'm good, we're here. I said that, Greg.

Oh, but we also have a bit of a, what is the playback speed at? 30 seconds? I mean, they'll hear all this, but yes. Let them hear it. Mute it. We're on a 30-second delay. You can hear it here? Yes, I can hear here.

It's already off to an amazing. You can hear here. Everyone shut up. It's going so crazy right out of the bat. Well, I'm sorry that you had your computer volume on. Which I have not told you. Greg bald is hot. See Roxy.

Roxy wanted to give notes. So for people who can hear, I want to shave my head. And I support it. And Roxy obviously is not a champion of this idea. I didn't say that. You didn't allow my notes. So I didn't do the implication. Okay, since we're live, what is your, what is your note?

What's your feedback? I don't think that this photo helped support your endeavors. It won't be that bald. I want more like a bus cut. Okay, here's the truth. Kind of like what Cornsuit has now. Here's the truth. I don't know, and I mean this with all the love in the world, Greg.

I don't know a single man who loves his hair more than you do. You are obsessed with the hair. That's why he needs to start shooting. Like if one curls out of place, you like will tweak it and you're like, is this curl in the right place? and I love that for you. I think it's so fun for you. You do, but that's also why you need to cut it because then you need to know the freedom of not doing it.

I don't like dealing with it. Yeah, but you like it. And so without it, you won't even be able to deal with. I just think the second you do it, you're going to be like, I am so bummed I did that. As a girl who's cut her hair before during life crisis moments. But he's not in a life crisis.

That's why it's a good time to do it. I've shaved my head before. Are you in no life crisis? I'm in a constant. Yeah, but not any more than normal Unless I miss something this week, it seems like the standard level of life prices. All right. So it looks like people can hear us and that it's going smoothly.

This was our great audio test. For all you people who are in the chat right now, thank you so much for being here. We know a lot of people are currently while. We'll keep the chat here live for you, Rucks. We know a lot of people are still watching Superman, and we've done a lot of different videos here for Superman. We even got more coming up. Koi and I have talked together about this movie for a recorded amount of many hours. now at this point.

A record amount? What have you guys done? Ranking the Superman as actors, ranking the Superman movies as Superman movies, not regular movies, like distinguishing that. The Easter eggs and set up for the DCU, what things we think were coming out of the film, a non-spoiler review, and a spoiler review.

Guess what? And podcasts. I knew all that, but I wanted you to plug it anyway. Oh, it was on social media. Now she can clip that, post it as an ad, plus like six months of podcasting. Yeah, that's true. And then we really wanted to make sure Roxy could actually be here for this one.

And by the way, happy early birthday, Roxy's birthday at midnight. Yeah. Oh, there's this time we made. Okay. From Larry Bird to Paul Pierce. So one of your gifts is over there. I will make sure to get it at some point during the stream. We brought Bostonians.

We're at the family. It's Cois Perkins and family. We already are my present. Thank you. They're present from Boston. Your presence is a present. And before we go into anything, I want to acknowledge. to, of course, that any super chats or stream labs is an amazing way to make sure that your

question is read or comment is read on air. And before we even went live, we actually got a couple three that I really want to shout out because a couple are like super generous super chats. John, can you pull it up on the screen here? And while John's pulling that up, I want to say a really big thank you, John has been the 99.9% massive contributor to how all this stream came to be. Our last stream was a little bit messy So he worked his ass off to make sure That this can be a smooth thing And of course there was a little bit of hiccups

That were occurring in the last 15 minutes But he worked it like a champion And now here we are live And it is looking good Thanks gang I was seven minutes late And that caused a delay Which then caused a drink to go over

Which then caused a buzz in the microphones Which then caused the drink to spill on wires And somehow none of us final destination Didn't we're here? Yeah But yeah let's kick it off guys I want to especially start getting some of Roxy's thoughts going. So we got a couple of very generous super chats from Alex.

John, do you want to be the one to read those, please? Absolutely. It would be my honor. Thank you so much, Alex, and for being so generous. What did you think of the human speech Superman gave? It was powerful. I know all films are subjective, but it bothered me that my co-workers said they ruined Superman because he shouldn't want human characteristics because he's an alien. Hashtag, super shit.

All right. Let's kick off with that. Roxy, what are your thoughts on that? It was one of my favorite moments in the whole movie. I just thought that that speech was so beautiful. Not all of humanity sucks. And I think that's important to remember when we feel like a lot of humanity sucks. And to aspire to be human and the best of humanity is absolutely what Superman does, even though he is alien. in. I don't understand the counterpoint to this. I don't understand how this could ruin the movie for somebody. That makes no sense to me. Coy? I think it's a fundamental misunderstanding of Superman. If you think that him electing to come to a planet that wasn't his and being adopted and adopting that planet and then protecting it doesn't make him human. That's the whole character is to find the humanity

in something that is so beyond us. And for him to be reaching to us, to feel like he's welcome for us to reaching to him to be as good as him. If people think he focuses on his alien side, I don't. There's a level of a lack of media literacy that becomes embarrassing, so they shouldn't speak. Like, if you're just going to say like two plus two is seven, like maybe don't speak. I don't know. I just, I don't have, I just don't. Are you thinking of the same thing I'm thinking about right now?

I'm sorry, this is so insider baseball for one second, but Greg and I just watched a movie where you're saying don't speak actually makes me feel ill thinking about people not physically being able to speak and I act like we can't silence them but we can shame them. I think we can shame them. I'm going to tease

a little thing that Roxy and I watched I'm not going to tease them just say it we watched human centipede and when you say don't speak I'm thinking about somebody being attached to somebody's butthole they are figuratively and I I kid you not

I still like will sometimes just think about certain image they just pop it on my mind and it haunts me sometimes I'm eating and it just pops in my mind

you guys did terrifier too didn't do that to me at all human centipede is just so Koi's parents do you guys know where the human centipet is they're nodding their head have you seen it

I don't think it's something you need to see you've seen enough God, yeah, it is Roxy and I were like, we're going to do the trilogy, and then like, while we were watching, we're like, we're not doing more of these. We're just like, this is not going to happen.

It will have to get so many views. It will have to get so many views for me to ever agree. This is the top five video this year. Both her and I were like, we're not going to do this. The second we walked out, Tara put the second one on the schedule, and I texted Greg, and I was like, what happened?

I was like, don't worry, I'm texting Tara right now. Like, this is not going to happen. It's a history of the TV. I have never heard of this. I know I derailed us, and that's, but that's how much that's still in my mind. So, yes, I'm with you. They should, but just. But to go back to Alex's question, your thoughts.

To go back to Alex's question about the speech, I mean, obviously, I love the speech, but I have heard people talk about the writing of that speech, not feeling earned. I've actually heard it on both sides with like before them, when Lex is talking, and maybe someone will bring it up in the chat, when Lex is spewing why he's doing, what he's doing when Superman is fighting Ultraman and the writing of that and then the writing two of what Superman hears. I personally like the writing quite a bit. What about the writing though?

They were saying that it was what. I think they feel like it's like too expositional. That's the basic gist of it. I feel like it was appropriate in that moment for especially for Superman, probably more than Lex. I feel like for Superman to be scouting that. He's been defending that concept the whole movie. Yeah. And that's been what Lex has been attacking.

So of course I would say it to him in my. No, a thousand percent. Lex is saying you are not one of us, and Superman is saying, I am more human than even you, Lex, because of who I am. It's actually the opposite of exposition as well. They're discussing their feelings. Yeah. It's not moving the plot along. It's moving their core. And how they operate and who they are. How else are we supposed to know how you're feeling inside? Of course, through your facial expressions, through your tears, through whatever. But if you don't say it out loud, and I feel like the entire movie, we didn't hear Superman say out loud how he was feeling about his relationship with planet Earth, especially after the bomb was dropped about his parents' actual video to him. And the scene on the farm, that's the payoff to. Like that's the, you know, he makes a choice.

Like he's making a choice to connect this way and verbalize it. I also think what I spoke to earlier about Superman, like there are two ways Superman's stories go. It's when he's investing in his kryptonian heritage and try to learn it. And then when he's investing in his human heritage. But even when he's looking at his kryptonian side, he's choosing humanity. So that's why I don't understand this choice of people to not see that the human side is what the character is. Even when you're looking at his Kryptonian, he was, his nature and his nurture has become human, even if his nature was originally Kryptonian. And that's one of the things that make Supergirl so interesting is she lived on Krypton longer.

She can remember losing her family. She can remember the planet itself. And that's why she's harder around the edges. Like Superman is so human. So it just makes me sad that people just don't get that. I want to get your thoughts on that for a second because that is. is my assumption of Supergirl as well based off of other source material

but we don't actually know what they are doing with Supergirl here and I am curious with the video message from his parents that we did receive is Supergirl privy to that? Obviously this is a second movie another thing but I have seen some people refer to that as a plot hole

to me it is not a plot hole but that if that was the intentions of his parents and Supergirl had knowledge of that and never mentioned it, what does that look like or are we going with a different version of Supergirl and was she not actually privy to that or there as long as we assume she was she could have gotten jettisoned and gotten lost on the way she could have not had that message she could still be sent to

protect Clark which is the usual canon but that context would be different and her telling him or not wouldn't have changed with that if she was there to protect Clark so to me it would be it would be something that could be answered another movie doesn't necessarily need to be depending on where they start her story I think let's hold on to some of that Supergirl thought because I do see some questions coming in for that and just a bit

yeah I have a lot to talk about I have a lot of feelings you know you gotta like you gotta like spread it out is that way because you gotta do that thing where you're like oh I already answered it on my own but now the super chats here and now I gotta like here's the thing

it's not often that I'm invited to a Greg Coy live you are learning my Padawan. Oh, yes. You're learning. Teach me. That's a Star Trek reference. Yes. Everyone knows any of this out of safety.

Everyone knows the Padawans of Star Trek lore. And then Alex actually said in a second question, right? John. Another very generous but I believe he was the second one up here. All righty. Let's get going to part two of Alex, Greg Coy, Roxy. And the real rejects made me fall in love

with cinema. Wow. That's a generous thing. I have been a movie goer ever since. And for that, I'll always be thankful. Your guys' channel will put a smile on my face no matter how my day went. Happy birthday, Roxy. Alex.

Just nice things. It's just super nice. Are you guys always waiting for the other shoe to hop? I was like, when's he going to jab us? Yeah. You guys really introduce me to cinema. Now you're shills. You loving everything makes me hate everything.

No, that's very kind. Thanks, Alex. Dude, that's really cool. I'm glad you love movies. same zies i mean that common means a lot like the the kind of the mantras that we talk about behind the scenes here are usually like at least for like what i really care about is showing the emotion actually i could link it to a superman chat that we i had in the theater with a couple people next to me and then we were sort of talking about it on something else that we filmed

is i was sitting next to a couple people at the premiere who were like i like this movie is before it started i liked it but i didn't love it and of course you know they start reviewing it to me. And I'm like, I see what you're saying. And I can actually completely acknowledge a lot of these so-called flaws or whatever you want to call them or things that probably could have been fleshed out better. But to me, I think more about what is the emotional takeaway at the end of the day. And sometimes the logical thing can affect your emotional takeaway. But oftentimes I feel like the emotional sweepingness can overcome whatever intellectualization can occur. So if that's where we're able to help contribute here in terms of the experience,

that's why I'm always like, yeah, show your emotions when we're filming these reactions and stuff is like the most important thing. And especially with these two, I really like working with these guys because they are both very honest people, especially this one, even when I don't want her to be. She's a very honest person. The hair will look fine, Greg. The hair will look fine, no matter what. It will be fine. Oh, yeah. Don't worry. I'll yell at you when the camera's not rolling. But you ever insult me on camera again. I also think this speaks to the broader, like, how we interpret people interpreting art in the internet is there is merit in finding flaws and being analytical and all those things,

but if it makes you feel good and if you enjoy the experience, I think that needs to be brought up more. And I think that the internet has caused at times lack of enjoyment because of how analytical it gets. And I think there is a difference between analyzing and experiencing. And I think there is merit for what we do. And I think there's merit for what even other channels do that are more analytical. But I think at the end of the day, if that undermines your emotional connection, if it was joy or anger or whatever, that does sell an experience. So I see a lot of times people say that channels, you know, have ruined the moviegoing experience. But I think it's really important to have your own experience and then take what we have into account.

So if we can help you enjoy cinema more, like that is such an honor. But if you're watching channels that are crapping on what you enjoy, then you're not going to enjoy it as much. So I think it's a really beautiful thing that we generally get to celebrate things while being honest. but I think all of us look for the silver lining so that we can help you enjoy something more not scrutinize it more. For sure. You guys ever see something and you watch it

and you're like, oh, that was like, okay. And then you listen to somebody who loved it talking about it and I find a new thing in it. And you like, oh, I didn't think about it that way. That's way cooler than when you walk out of something you're like, I don't know. And somebody's like, but that was trash, da, and you're like, oh, maybe it was trash.

I've really stopped listening to people after screenings because of that because I want to first form my own thoughts, but also there's this hive-minded thing often of people wanting to find the flaws immediately after and like feel like they're intelligent by making other people seem less intelligent. And that's like I think just a human thing of like, I saw this issue and here are my thoughts, but it becomes compounding. So I think it's the internet causes that exponentially. So I love when I can find the opposite and like dissect something in a positive way and rediscover art. And I think that also causes like certain feelings of nostalgia when you find that like, oh, I hadn't seen that. Now I connect to it.

Yeah, it's kind of like I was upset with Shelly on Love Island, but then I was talking to my friend and she was explaining why Shelly's actually, you know, just have like the short end of the stick. And I was like, oh, yeah, you know what? That is true. And I'm really bummed about what happened to jelly now. So I know you guys could relate to that. Yeah, I connect with you.

I'm so Shelly in that situation. Yeah, you're such a Shelly. Anyway, thanks, Alex, for the cues. Diego Guevera. Can we pull them up, please, John? Absolutely. And by the way, we don't have to show it on screen right now, John. I want to thank everyone who's already bought three of our Superman-inspired apparel.

I can show them if you want to. We will assume the Gary one's already the top cell. I'm so happy about that. I love the Gary one. That's my favorite one. That one's very cool. I like that design a lot. What's Diego saying in the super chat there, John?

All right, Diego Guevara. Thank you so much for chiming in. Also, I like the simple but important trait of Lex hating soups so much. he starts crying peak lex yes and i agree with that i like that as well wait what led to him crying i thought he was crying because uh he was caught it was like every he had lost everything in that moment right that shot of him in the tears hating superman it was losing everything it was getting beaten my dog the culmination of all the emotions it was the it was the peak of his experience and i thought that was really powerful i'm hearing a lot of mixed opinions about

nicholas holt a lot of people love the shit out of him and a lot of people were like, I feel like he was doing his best, but there's something about the way this Lex has done. I'm hearing that kind of a lot. I've been hearing that too, Greg. I'm kind of curious about that because to me, he was perfect. I just think he's so unbelievable in that role. And different than the most recent iterations that we've seen,

especially different than anybody who's watching the Superman and Lois show. He's, like, dramatically different than him. and that's just our most recent live action version. But I thought that he was so powerful and, like, I loved how honest he was about how he felt because I think that we see usually more of a, it's below the circus, it's secretive, but that's not 2025 anymore. People who are angry and jealous and vengeful and billionaires, it's very in your face. They verbalize everything they're thinking because they believe that they're,

They are so self-important that their thoughts are the most important thoughts. So it just made sense for our today's versions of what Lex Luthor would be. This is that to me. It also ties into the monologues at the end where like they're just saying all of the things they're feeling. And that does make that verbose comic book monologue feel more naturalized because it is the characters. They've built to that point. Like they've gotten to the point where those monologues do track. I also think it's much more like a comic where it's like, here's your, your, you're,

your bevy of thoughts and like a speech bubble of it just pouring out of you. And that is how people have kind of gotten. And I think it's because our attention spans are show short. I think all these self-important billionaires like to say like what they're actually thinking because they're so self-entitled and they also know unless they are, people are going to click away or swipe away. Like you have that minute to be like,

here's everything. And that's very, I do think we have real life super villains for the first time. So we're very obvious in our evils. And I think it's good. Like, I love that Lex reflects today's actual supervillains. Yeah, I'm with you. Greg, did you like him? I haven't I thought he was amazing.

I thought he was great. I liked him even more. It admittedly took me a little bit of time to adjust to what he was doing, but I like the boyish, because Nicholas Holt has such a boyish thing in his demeanor and his eyes, I like that you see that insecure boy throughout his entire performance. But then I read, before the second screening,

I read Lex Luther, Man of Steel. Thank you, Coy. And, and, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, really? Everyone hold up this in the chat one second.

Oh, I thought, I would like this. I had no longer holding out. You were to find one second. Thanks. Now they're wondering if this needs. There's a 30 second delay, so now we have to do it. Legs loose there. Sounds back. Yep. Yep. It's back. I hope you guys heard that.

Well, what I was saying earlier was I wanted to thank everyone who has already contributed to the super chats and the stream labs. We will get to the stream labs as well. It's kind of unusual to get this many for us right at the top. So thank you very, very much. That's not what he said. That is a... He threw you guys. under the box. I said there should be more. Where even are they? Yeah. And he said drain your accounts or else. Then you're not a real reject. It's our last live stream until.

Boy and I heard him. Yeah. It was dark. And also everyone who has not been able to contribute, that's totally fine. Just happy that you're here. sincerely, thank you. We're going to be, we're hopping within all the chats. Thank you so much.

He did say that part. That's true. That part I did say. Next up, we'll go to the stream lives. in a bit, but who's next up on the super chats, John? All righty. Next up after, let's reorient ourselves. Diego, okay, we got

him. Always remember. Never forget. Just finished watching Superman. Unfortunately, this is definitely not my Superman. Well, thank you for contributing and get the hell out of here. You want to know what's totally fine?

That? Yeah. You're like absolutely allowed to not like this movie and not like this version of Superman. and not like it as much as you like any other version. Because those still exist. Yeah, they still exist. And if you're cool, like you just were, just say, you could say how you feel about something. That's totally normal.

I love a respectful disagreement so much. I love it, especially when it comes with money. But no, I love a respectful disagreement in general. Even in like our Instagram or Twitter, whenever I see one, I'm like, thank you for being honest. And thank you for being respectful about your disagreement. Yeah, there's plenty of stuff that a lot of people love that I don't, but I don't. I don't make it about the person that enjoyed it. I just, some art isn't for

me or them. Yeah, bummer for you, I hope that you end up liking other aspects of the DCU because this is the start of something, so it is a bit of a bummer to not like the thing that begins a franchise. Craig Gillespie is probably going to do something really, you know, different outlandish. I have the exact

same thought. I'm like, I think Supergirls would be very different. Despite the cameo. And also, we still have the entire the Batman. Yeah, yeah, the Elseworld stuff's going to feel even more consciously. Yeah. Thank you. Well, thank you, always remember.

Who do we got next up here? We'll go through like a couple more here, and then we'll hop on a, see what the stream lives were saying. Absolutely. Oh, we got a three-parter from Jeff Carroll. Sweet. Go, Jeff. Get it, Jeff.

Thank you so much. And very, very generous each time. Thank you. A million things I could say. But two that stand out, my most emotional moment was when the kid held the flag, kept the flag up, holding on to hope, even with the army closing in. That's beautiful. When the score hit.

Beautiful moment. Chills and tears. Two of three. The, quote, people were going to die moment. People talk too much about logistics. Superman takes action, not motivated nor constricted

by political or social bounds, but only guided by doing good. Part three of three. Jeff, there we go. How can I do the most good and help the most people? He doesn't believe in the trolley problem. He is the solution-oriented

to help everyone. he can truly inspiring figure truly incredible film so in that moment with the kid with the flag that was one of the things that was teased so much in the trailers and what took me for a surprise was that superman did not actually go and show up yeah to to save the day and i've heard some people express a little bit of minor disappointment with that fact that it was a superman that it was a justice gang but i'm like but that's part of being human is the willingness to make connections and ask for help. Yeah.

And that showing that Superman is willing to be a team player and that he doesn't have to be the God who can do everything. But I'm curious, Roxy, would you got... I have like 80 thoughts about it. Please go. Go. I love that we saw it in the trailer and then it was a little bit different than most of us thought it would be.

I just enjoy things like that. But I think when we're talking about the trolley problem, he is faced with the trolley problem. And you know what he decided? I can't do this alone. I have to ask, I Superman need to ask for help from my friends to help the people asking me for help. So I think that that is a perfect way to deal with the trolley problem.

You need other people to help stop the trolley from hitting other people. So I thought that was really cool. I also thought it was great to give Guy his moment because he just so desperately wants his moment and I love seeing that. and then I also think that as a lesson to all of us you Superman is a symbol of asking for help that little kid did not care if it was Superman or if it was somebody else he's not sitting there thinking I want Superman's help and only Superman otherwise I'm happy to go he's saying I need help and Superman is his symbol of hope and help and so that's exactly what happens he got help and it was sent by Superman. But I think that that's what this universe is trying to do with Superman. It's beyond just the person. It's the concept. The concept of somebody who is willing to do the right thing no matter what it takes. So I just thought it was absolutely perfect. I love that. And it

didn't bother me in any way, shape, or form that it wasn't Superman that saved him. Because so. Yeah. Yeah. I think the universe doesn't work of Superman is just doing everything. Like the point of the Justice League is that some jobs are too big for Superman. So I think it sets up a universe really well. So there are moments where Superman is just hearing everything and he has to figure out what to prioritize. But that's why there's other heroes. That's why the world is full of heroes. For 300 years into metahumans, there need to be moments like that. So I really like that the symbol was used for a kid asking for help. And then, you know, it did give Guy's moment. It did allow Superman to show that he was willing to work with people. And I think,

I think that's really important for the future of this universe. Well, can I, I want to get your opinion from both of you guys during this sequence was that one time i felt hawk girl actually did something that was necessary where she she kills the president yeah yeah she kills the president um but i did it's the first time you felt she did something necessary yeah i i felt out of the justice gang she was the most underwritten and underutilized definitely that's a fact i think and uh so i want to know what you guys thought about hot girl that was one that i we've never actually talked much about her like i've i like the actress a lot love her in The Last of Us.

You've interviewed her before. Yeah, Isabella's great. But in terms of the, yeah, the portrayal of Hawk Girl here, were you guys satisfied with it? Because I felt like she really got the short end of the stick on this one. Personally, with the universe kicking off, I feel like this was a great way to like have a backdoor pilot. You know, like I feel like Hawk Girl was there.

So Isabella Merced was locked into the universe. Like I felt like people were so worried about Superman being the Super Friends movie because of the big size of the cast. I was really relieved that it stayed a Superman movie. So I did feel like we got a lot of good moments with Guy Gardner, but he's in The Lantern soon, and we saw that he pops up in Peacemaker. We know Isabella Merced,

Isabella Merced pops up in Peacemaker. So to me, this was like, here's the people we've got so far. This is going to be launching a thing. I, you know, to me, Mr. Triffick stole the movie. And so many times, I feel like that's the next logical. And I've been saying it since before it came out, that's the spinoff I want.

But now with Hawk Girl, I think us wanting more gives the potential and gives us the chance to be excited when we see. because we know how good Isabel and Merced is we've seen her in so like Alien Romulus she's incredible she's so good in Last of Us I think this is more of a long She's yeah she's like one of the leads

She's like if she's Spoilers That was her Yeah dude I saw a movie twice That's Isabelle Merset Yeah So holy shit

Really that's her Live reaction I had no recollection So that's her like The one who gives birth to the crazy Oh shit She is right now like the it girl she is so hot right now no seriously I know that you're made but she is so hot

right now like every meeting that I go into she is the first person that people pitch for every single project like she is the it girl I think deservedly yeah I agree completely I mean you can even see that from the fans from the last of us how people reacted to her character but she is the most one of the top 10 most talked about actresses of this year I think because of that, her being in this movie, it's the by far and away smallest that we've seen her in a property in a long time. And so I think that if this actress hadn't been such a recognizable person to the nerd community, then we might not be feeling that way, but because she's such a huge star and she has the least screen time of any of our justice gang, I understand

why people felt she was underutilized. To me, this isn't a hot girl movie, so I was just happy to see her and happy that we got to meet her. But I do think it's a fair criticism or critique that you wanted to see more of her. I was glad we got that moment because it's our only individual moment with her. And I think it does show that we don't all agree on how to deal with this. And we heard from Guy multiple times that he disagrees with Superman on how to handle conflict. And this was our first time seeing her in her own element being like, but I'm not Superman. So I don't care. You suck. Boom. Dropped. Like that really worked for me. I also happened to love the character of Hot Girl.

So I definitely want to see more of her and feel very confident that we will. So I'm not too shook about it. You said she's so hot right now. One thing I couldn't help but notice is this has forced everyone to enunciate so clearly that they are saying Huck Girl in every interview. Yeah, that name.

Never ever heard of K emphasized more. Oh, I was saying she's so hawk right now. She's a hawk right now. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, she's so hawk. Before we watch. of the stream lives. Let's read always remember. And then we know we got way more super chats, but I don't want to ignore the stream labs as well. Absolutely. Let's hop on over to. How's the chat

liking this? Hey, if you guys are in the live stream chat, please, please leave a like on this video. It helps with the playback. You know, we want this video to get, you know, attention post. Like, comment, subscribe by the shirt. Give us your thoughts in the comments. All righty, always remember, are you writing in from Korea? That's crazy well thank you so much hell yeah instead of letting the idea of hope emerge organically from the narrative the film feels like it is trying to force that concept into my head almost like it's reminding me over and over that he's a hope yeah i just really didn't feel that way so this is the respectful uh this the second part of that respectful didn't like it yeah if i did

feel that way that would have been a bummer i didn't feel that way so i don't even know I'm curious why you felt that way. I think even when it is, I mean, I didn't really feel that way either because I felt like those scenes came out mainly in his dialogue with Lois, which I love the dialogue exchanges. And of course, the debate scene that was brought up earlier that Jeff Carroll did at the very beginning of the movie. And of course, the second scene with the punk rock exchange, like those moments, I really feel the most like that. And then, of course, the exchange at the end when the kid is saved, I don't feel like it's something that's, like, beating you over the head. And at the flip side, I think if there was any comic book character

where you could be on the nose about it, it's Superman. It's Superman. Superman is the one character out of any of them where, yeah, by all means, go ahead, spew it out, because you're Superman, and that is the vibe of Superman. I think not only did I personally not feel that except for moments where I felt like it was it was the most emotional list it felt authentic from me like when I was emoting it felt like it was coming from a real place so I didn't feel the overbearing of hope I felt a lot of hope but it always felt like it was a natural progression of the story and the and the writing for me but I think not only do we need to have a lot more hope than a sprinkling of it but this is a man who wears his trunks on the outside to make people feel comfortable. So if there was ever going to be someone so earnest and a character so spangled in his own way, I think it's necessary. I think maybe, you know, your experience with really earnest people might be different than mine. When someone is just full of kindness and hope and earnestness in 2025, I'm drawn to them.

I used to find it. Sorry to interrupt. But what you just said reminded me like five years ago, Greg, maybe 10 years ago, Greg. I avoided those people. I would have responded probably the exact same way. that's just to speak to. I would have been way more like negative or cynical in my response. Yeah, to it. But I think because of who I am today, it moves me to tears now instead. Like I literally, I've been very public about the fact that I had a phase where I wasn't connecting to Superman. I connected to Superman when I was a child. Like when I understood cool guy with all these powers and a cape. And then as I got into my preteens and teens, like, I think we all naturally get cynical. And I think there's an element of like, yeah, he's got all those powers and he's kind of cheesy. And what's with the dad jokes? And then as I got into my. 20s, I was just like, I like that for people to have. I love that people, but I didn't connect myself, but late 20s going into my early 30s. So I'm going to say like the last seven or eight

years, I've really needed the earnestness and I've needed to connect. And that's why I really struggled with some of the adaptations of Superman because I was like, but I need the guy that I want him to be now that I've discovered him again. So I think it's all perspective of how you, you relate to earnestness and hope because I'm more and more drawn to those people and I'm more and more in need of those because I think we're drowning in cynicism. I don't want to tell somebody that their feelings are wrong because how you feel is how you feel

but Greg can you go back to it for a second because the thing that confuses me a little bit about this and I've been seeing this comment from people so when he said narratively okay instead of letting the idea of hope emerge organically

from the narrative of the film that's the part that I loved so much about the film is that watching Superman was all about the narrative like it was not how he spoke it was what we saw him do it's him saving a squirrel uh it's him it's when we see the interview with lois him getting frustrated because he knows he did the right thing um us hearing about that cactus moment right like it it's it is the the actual narrative of the film that teaches us about hope and about somebody doing this it's seeing the flag being waived um it's all of

it's him in the stuck with the kryptonite next to him and still fighting through those moments him trying to save the kaijin right so the whole all narrative is hope so i didn't feel like it was just constantly line after line like hope hope you should hope it was the it was the narrative that was that for me so again not to say your feelings are wrong always remember it clearly didn't work for you But for me, I keep hearing this. The narrative doesn't do it. It's in the dialogue. And I don't get that.

Yeah, I especially feel it in the in the Paw Kent scene on the farm because I think a lot of people struggle. I mean, I still struggle with it of like, what do I really want in life? What's my identity? You know, what's my purpose? And a lot of times people feel dictated by their past or their parents. And that idea of like you can have hope in the fact that you can, you were defined by your choices more than anything else. you were defined by the actions you take more than anything else. And that's a different way of finding hope.

They don't never say the word hope in that moment. But I think that's like another variation. There's like levels to hope and optimism and belief and stuff. So yeah, I'm really moved by it. So I appreciate you regardless. Even if you don't feel that way, always remember, I appreciate you being respectful and allowing us to have a conversation about it. So thank you.

John, what's going on in the stream labs before we move on? I'm going to move this to the look at the. below or move on so i'm i'm hopping here between this is just like you can control this too if you want i don't want to touch your computer you can totally touch my computer uh the live chat or the fan funding section this is this is the see the subo shots and this is this is you just i have learned you have learned all righty sir let's get into some we've got a few contributions today thank you so much gang all right sammy boy let me line you up here you are first and foremost I got a few in there.

Got a couple from Sammy, boy. All right, let's read it. All right, Sammy. Do you mind if I pull this way for a second? No, no. After I said, go ahead, look at this. I'm going to totally stop it. It was nice to see the chat for a second.

Y'all are cute. I just, at some, Coy doesn't need subtitles. I'm a subtitle brain. I'm like, I need to read along with what John's saying right now. If I see something else, I read ahead and then I hear it after, I'm like, I ruined the joke or the scare. Wow, was it like that in school? I can't process anything that I'm not reading. Oh, yeah, and I can't see it.

Subtitles help a lot for when people are talking over stuff, too. Is that a ding at us right now? No, it's an occupational hazard for all of us. And sometimes it's a huge help when people are talking over lines, and then I'm like, but I still understand what they said. Anyway, Sammy Boy, you know that we are appreciative of your contributions, but you also know I know the movie has its flaws, but this movie gave me what I needed.

It gave me the lasso effect. that I so desperately needed from my favorite style of Superman. The world has felt like it's on fire ever since 2019, and I find myself getting a bit hopeless. This movie probably won't make a change, but as

a huge Superman fan, I caught myself crying on multiple occasions. Yes. Cry. Weep for us. Doing good because it's the right thing to do. David gave me hope. He inspired the misfit heroes to step up. Chills with a Zed.

Maybe even nipple chills. Who knows? And they've got a couple more, right? Do you want to jump up? Yes, we do. Let's jump up. And then, yeah, that we were not like losing track here. And they will acknowledge everything.

Absolutely. Sammy Boy goes on to say, now for some things I need to digest on my second viewing. One, I really don't know how to feel about Jorrell and Lara. Ooh, excited to talk about this. I hope this is a Brainiac trick and not really canon. Shout out Brainiac. That would be pretty safe. That would be interesting.

Sammy Boy, it goes on to say. Two, how come at the daily planet, Clark has a deeper voice than Superman who has a lighter tone. That's his version of the Batman. He does the inverse. I'm Clark, good. What's more approachable? Like, you know, his slightly higher tone is a bit more like you can talk to that guy. Yeah, exactly, yeah.

I would like a quote. Three, I would have loved a reason for Team Lex being so against Superman. Even fear of Lex would have been good enough. Fair enough. All right. Let's talk. Thank you, Sammy Boy, for that. Oh, my gosh.

There's a lot to break down. I feel like let's focus. I think it would be good to focus on the, uh, the Jorrell and the Laura moment, um, especially on the real. See, when I first watched it, I, I missed a couple lines. Um, and I thought, I had my interpretation that, oh, maybe this is like manipulated footage and there's, or maybe there's a misunderstanding in the way the dialogue is and they're not, he's not saying be. you know this uh ruler and impregnate a bunch of women and stuff like that i completely uh there's some stuff that i actually missed even though mr terrific is like no man it's for sure real i'm like ah maybe though you know you haven't seen yourself uh i don't mind the approach that some people are really

offended by this change but i think it just hammers home the theme more honestly of yes maybe your your biological parents said to do one thing but then the people who have actually raise you or saying, like, you don't have to live by that. And I think that hammers home the power of choice even more that you make your own choices. And that's what's going to define you, not whatever the hell you were assigned for from mom and dad way over here. So I like this witch. And it's not like Jorrell and Laura are going to be characters who's going to be hanging out with. They're dead. So I personally respect it. And yeah, I don't mind. I've never been one who like gets really pissed off if there if it's like messing with cannon in some way like

a lot of people got pissed when superman snapped zod's neck and i was like i didn't even really think about it honestly away until you guys brought it up but roxie what did you think about i'm of a couple different minds on it and i think that it's cool that i feel that way i'm not exactly sure what they should do with this on the one hand i'm a little tired of you're not a skywalker actually you are a Skywalker and it's like we go from one movie we make one statement it's definitive and then it's not until another movie where we find out that that was actually not what they said or it wasn't really them or whatever so I kind of want them to hold true to this this is the story that they wanted to tell yeah and I'm interested in that story because

that's different from what we've seen and it also I think anybody okay as a person with a dead parent maybe you can relate to this but when you find out information about your dead parent after they're gone how to deal with that feels like next to impossible because the one person that you have follow-up questions for cannot answer them and so if we are going to go this route i think that we need to see clark deal with this in the future how he because it was very brief in this because he had to keep it pushing he was trying to save the world right so i i want to if we're going to stick with this story, I would like to see him deal with the ramifications of having his parents have done this and him not being able to understand why, which is why I brought up the Supergirl

thing earlier, because I would be curious. I would think his first phone call would be to his cousin, yo, do you know about this? What's up? What can you tell me? I'm trying to get more information because this has rocked my world and I want to talk to them, but I can't. So that's on the one hand of it. On the other hand, I think, think in 2025, we already are having so much discourse about him being an alien. And do we really want to plant the idea in people's head that people are sent here for nefarious reasons and that aliens might be coming here for nefarious reasons? Oh, wow.

I didn't even read that far. Wow. And I think that that is, yeah, you didn't read that far, Greg, because you're not somebody who thinks that way. Yeah, yeah. So that was not a problem for you. but I could see how people would totally manipulate that. See what they're trying to do?

And so I think that it needs to be handled carefully, no matter kind of what we end up doing with this. So if they did decide to, I don't want to say retcon it because it's not retconning, but if they did decide to switch up that story by then having it be, you know, it was actually somebody else posing as or that the video message was messed with or whatever,

I could see why they would do that also. So that's my, those are my two mindsets of this. Coyle, as maybe the most comicy reader of Jorel and Laura, out of the three of us, I really didn't mind it. I don't know if that's true, Corey. I feel like I read a couple more comics, perhaps. Roxy, maybe next, and then Reg recently especially. This pack of gum has read way more than you. That's true.

That's true. Can I read? But I think, you know, I would be coming from the comic book. perspective where a lot of people would say like well the canon what you just said like that doesn't really affect you it drove me nuts that he snaps odds neck um but i think this canon is not as you know it's it the man of steel is the title character superman is the title character the man of steel making a choice that goes against what i think his belief system is a little different than our connection to his parents and i think that's a conscious choice because what i love about this film most

is you can go the kryptonian double down or you can go the human double down it's so human for him choose humanity over his faded destiny. And I think that shows the nature versus nurture side of the character. I think that's what makes him versus Supergirl so interesting. And I think that makes him interesting as a character is the speech about choice then mirrors him choosing to be human. This goes back to the first question about humanity. I honestly think him choosing is more human than following any sort of orders.

So I like that his orders were the opposite because then he's not just someone following orders. I also think that speaks to the world we live in today where people do things and go, well yeah but that's legal or yeah I was just following orders or yeah I was just doing what I was told I think it's really important people have a code of ethics over law because the law didn't let women vote and the law made people of a certain color not allowed to do things as recently as our lifetime grandparents of our generation saw horrible stuff that was just following orders I think we need a hero to not just follow orders so I like that he makes a choice outside of the parameters of law so I think we need a hero that makes his own decisions I like winter soldier the most because

Captain America believes in what America is as an idea more than what America is as its present condition. And I think Superman needs to make his own choices. So I think it needs to be canon that that was a message and he needed to realize his parents aren't gods. And I think that people need to realize like, you know, you need to live your life. Do you guys think they are going to stick with this? I hope so. I hope so, yeah. It'll be interesting. The brainiac idea is cheeky. I like if they do a thing. Yeah. I like Brainiac because the, you know, the message splitting is good for the narrative of this movie, but it also allows for the narrative to open up for, you know, some sort of interception. But it does undermine them Mr. Trific. He didn't look at it

himself, but him vouching, like all those things would kind of be a little unravely. I think, you know, they didn't imply in this film that Jorrell is something that's going to be a sentient relation, you know, like he programmed himself, Zoccal could answer questions. Like, that's, you know, a common canon. Like, there are stories of them talking. Does not seem like we'll get Bradley Cooper brown out in the fortress. I could see this be the message. And I love that at the he chose his parents. Like his parents were the ones Ma and Pa Kent were the ones

he was then getting solace from. That is because of the message. So if you take that away, those moments don't have the same way. Do you think there's a world in which we don't address this again? I think there's a world in which you know, we don't need to.

Wow, I would be really bummed about that. If they don't just, because they dwelled on it most of the movie. Not really. We didn't find out until the third act. That's the whole third act. I don't feel like, I think people were giving the note that this needed to be more fleshed out.

Wait, didn't find out what until the third act. It was like second act. It was like the beginning of second act. That's what's kicked off the plot. Yeah. Oh, okay. That literally the message being deciphered was, like, right at the end of the first act, it's deciphered.

You're right. It's a midway point of the movie. No, it's a midway point of the movie. But I guess the reason why, and keep in mind, just as a reminder of everybody, I've only seen this once. Yeah. I've only seen it three times, Roger. I'm going to go again this week. I'm dying too.

But I remembered it being a little later than that. I thought it was closer to the third act. At the beginning of the second, I believe you. But I do think that we didn't spend a lot, at least from my first viewing experience, the note that people have been giving that we didn't see a lot of time of him actually unpacking his feelings on this. I would agree. I think it's valid. I think it doesn't,

you don't see a lot. I mean, it comes in doses and it comes out again in the pot can't seem, but there's not as much of like it weighing. of a thing of it permeating throughout of him having to deal with processing this. When I was watching it, I appreciated it because when you have the weight of the world on your shoulder and you have to keep it pushing, you can't process your information. That's why I'm saying specifically that I think that they have to address this again in the future because he didn't. We hear the Mr. Terrific part saying like, no, for sure, this is real.

I still had questions on whether it was or it wasn't, but I agree with you, Koy, that that would probably undermine Mr. Trifick. ability to assess that out or it would elevate brainiac's capability yeah and you get mr. terrific an intellectual rival that's true but I think if we never bring this up again in a future movie especially the supergirl aspect of it I think that that would be a huge missed up I don't think supergirl is going to be on earth I mean I mean supergirls I don't want to like give it all away but super girl because I just read it like a week ago supergirls time on Krypton is very different. I don't feel like she has much

of a connection even to like Jorre. Like that was, that seemed like a completely separate thing that Jorrell was like, okay, we're going to send our boy off here and we're going to give you this message. Yeah, I mean, we don't know exactly what it's iteration, like what they're going to do. We got so much, I'm going to do my best to keep it because

Coy has family time here. How are you guys doing parents? He's not a, he's not a DPC. You know what that is? I don't. Dead parents club. Oh, that's why I don't know what it is. Never will be. I got young parents. I'll be a DPK.

He's not dead kids. Let me just throw some dead parents on the bus. I'll live a kill O'Coy. They might actually. We got a few comments on videos of mine. Like, it's really rude that Roxy only addresses the dead parents stuff to the people with dead parents. It makes everybody else feel left out. I'm like, you know who's left out?

That's the biggest of your problems. I'm so sorry. I'm so hard you can hug your parents. Dead people are actually out. So good. There's one video where it was with with. with Aaron was the only one without dead parents and I was like oh how's it was we watch

it was me Tara and Andrew and I was like how's it feel to have living parents Aaron and the comments were like that is so mean to him I was like it is weird to feel then like you're some kind of jerk for having living relatives oh that's how you feel the whole party

like I brought my parents to the Superman premiere the entire after party was everyone stopping you're going your parents look younger than you like and I had to deal with that which is you know my charm I'm Benjamin Buttoning wrong They're not wrong No they're not wrong I got city miles on me

And they're very young I thought your dad was a hitman That's true That's true My buddy One of my buddies at DC Thought he was my agent He does see

You gotta look I'd say Especially with the ponytail Right now Ponytail in a suit I met you three times And you look totally different Every single time

I have met you Every single time If there's a parent If there's a question my parents can answer, I'll bring them in. Okay, really quick. Yeah, I'm going to do my best to... There's got to be like some hand wave, Kermit the Frog signal I can give a flag. To like...

We have to move it up, speed it up, speed it up. Let's Sammy Boy here. It happens every live stream, Roxy. It's not a unique case. We did Sammy Boy. But the, about the Clark Kent and... Oh, I love the deeper voice choice. Do you guys...

I was... I've heard this quite a bit. We haven't... It's funny. After all the talking, we have done... Koi, but like, this is the one opportunity I'm taking me like, here's some negatives I have heard. Let's talk about some of them. Some people are disappointed, but we didn't get much of Clark Kent actually doing investigation stuff. But then I hear, so I can understand that. But I hear this thing go of like, we get so much Superman, but not enough Clark Kent. And that is a statement I just so disagree with because I'm like, this movie is showing they're one and the same that Clark is Superman, your man is Clark. And their personality is resonating. throughout the entire thing. I feel like I got to know Clark better here

than a lot of other Superman movies, even though he's in the Superman suit for most of this movie. I got to see the human. The way they would be like, I didn't get to know Iron Man, I got to know Tony Stark. I felt that way here.

Yes, we don't see much of Clark investigating, but do you guys wish you got more Clark investigating? Do you wish that there was more Clark Kent doing, you know, guy in just a suit doing Clark Kent stuff? Yeah, go ahead. I said in one of my videos, like I wish we had more Clark in the Daily. planet. And I think people interpreted as that same critique, but my critique was just, I wanted

to see Clark interacting with more of the daily planet. And that was the specificity I didn't get, because I agree with you. I think we got a lot of Clark. And I think Clark Kent was present as Superman because of that message. But I would have liked to have seen more of the disguise of Clark Kent and more of the moments of his humanity of that cheeky love of being Clark. Like I think of Superman as he loves when he has the freedom of being Clark Kent. Superman, especially in this, is, you know, it's the job. You're putting on your boots. Like the first image we saw

is putting on his boots. The outfit is very blue color. I think his ideal time is when he gets to be Clark. And so I think it's really beautiful to see the freedom of him just being Clark Kent in the Daily Planet, like intrepid reporter, like, he-he.

And so, like, I think that's something I want to see more in the future. I don't think it fit this movie's speedy pace and narrative and all the things, but in the future, I would like to see more of the joy of Clark Kent. Sure, sure. I think it's really fair critique of this

that we didn't get to see enough, Clark Kent. I feel like it would have been helped a little bit by a little more, where is he in the Daily Planet? Because when he's gone, we are not really addressing, like, wow, he's been gone for so long. Like, somebody needs to fill his shoes, kind of what does he do there? Is it not an issue if he just isn't showing up for work for days on end? So narratively, I kind of wish that they addressed it.

And then on top of that, I would, would like to see more Clark. We have time to do that, yes. So this wasn't a huge sticking point for me. But when I left the movie and I started to hear people say, we got way more Superman than Clark Kent. The answer, yes, we did. I agree with that.

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All right, stream lab, stream lab. We're going to go back a step to Diego Guevara. Thank you so much for chiming in. This is an interesting comment to bring up here. I will strap in people. I don't think a lot of people talk about the clear anti-Israel story here. I think it's one, great, and two, awesome that's such a big movie is the courage to stand up against fascism and genocide. It's not subtle at all.

And it really made it better for me. hashtag FP hashtag Frazier Park I'm not confident personally speak I'm the least informed probably on this subject matter here do you guys take it as like a clear anti-Israel message? For sure not I didn't see it that way at all I think you can map a few conflicts into it. Absolutely I think that it was

definitely like to me honestly it rung more true of Ukraine Russia like geographically speaking. That is actually where my mind did go more. But I'm not saying that it's not speaking on conflicts in general, which I think it is. We're talking about billionaires who want land grabs. We're talking about mistreating people. We're talking about murdering people.

We're talking about things that are happening in this world right now all over the world. So I don't think that this was an anti-Israel message. I also think that people should be careful with their words and talk about. anti-governments but um it didn't it just didn't read that way to me um yeah i've seen this comment i mean i've been dm this comment every 30 seconds for the last week um see even gun hate blah blah blah and i'm like okay um so yeah i'm not surprised somebody's gonna suck i'm sorry it's not your fault i'm not surprised somebody's bringing it up on the um show you guys saw when we put out all of our stuff that

like nonstop obviously being Jewish and being Israeli are completely different for those people who don't know I'm not Israeli I am Jewish so continuing to send me Israeli messages is bizarre and super strange but I've seen this comment a lot

and I think it's a fair thing to question is he talking about specific wars is he talking about specific places this person didn't do this disrespectfully in any way so I don't mind and they didn't address the question to Roxy but that wasn't my personal take on it yeah I looked at it more as like the generalization like one is clearly like being implored by a billionaire and there's like a militarization and people with

weapons and they're gunning down a bunch of like regular civilians and people who don't stand a chance and it just looks like cruelty and fascism so yeah I don't I don't I didn't specifically see it as a specific thing I did liken it more just because of more recent, what was in my brain. But, Coy? I think it's a very clear anti-fascist film, and I think it smartly is political in that there are American profiteering habits wherein it is very clear that a large country with more advanced weaponry and military

is often siding with advanced militaries geopolitically, and often small countries get ran over in the process. and that isn't acceptable. So the fact that we can right now question whether this is those two countries or those two countries is embarrassing. And so I think it's a problem at all that we need to worry about the details if we need to look more like at ourselves and wonder what America is doing. I think the message is clearly like we have a billionaire problem.

We have stag industries. We have Luther Corps. We have Lex as an entity that has power within the government. We have all of these met of humans working for an Amazon like corporation. We have the stuff happening in our reality with Spotify. We have the things we know happening with lobbyists. The film, I don't think, in my opinion, it chose to make two fictional nations so we could have a moment of if this person sees it as these two countries or if we see it as these two countries. I think the problem is we ever have David and Goliath stories where we are consistently put in position where we are told deciding with Goliath is just.

So to me, it's a film about humanity not accepting. the fact that because the status quo is, I have a bigger gun that makes these people less human. So I don't think it points the finger at two countries. I think it points the finger at all countries. I'm with you, Coy, and I also think that they did a great job with that when Lex is talking about, I love his reveal that it's not even really about the land for him. It's about his hatred for Superman. And you think it's the other way around. And I think for people who have everything they make up things to want because like it's never enough and I think that this is just as much about countries and on a massive basis that as it is on an individual and and what

happens when you become so overrun with greed and power being power hungry in your personal lives as well the sacrifice of innocence in order to become king that I think was a big part of it too. I also think it's really, I really am appreciative that however you interpret this, that a major studio and a major director with the biggest character in pop culture, maybe in pop culture for America, chose to make a story about how it's wrong to kill a small, innocent country in a $200 million blockbuster. Like, that's what I care about. I don't, I don't have enough geopolitical knowledge or enough insight into which one this is aiming at. I think it's not. And so I'm really happy that it's a film that showcases the importance to not let fascism win.

And it does that on so many different fronts. It does it politically. It does it with fascism directly. It does it with billionaires. It does it with boots on the ground. It does it with war mongering. I think it's really important that Superman stand up against this. And the film says that in its first movie.

The DCU starts with this. That's beautiful. And by showing that the people that suffer are the people, the civilians. Right. Yeah. Everywhere. And I thought that that was really great. Yeah.

shout out to our very first Jewish Superman David Corn Sweat very cool I started wearing my necklace the day that I went to go see it with you guys the movie and I haven't taken off since because I'm so proud that we have a Jewish Superman. He's a much more Jewish character than Christian

like they was invented by two Jewish guys and all of the imagery like him floating down the river but that's the Kryptonian pod and like a lot of that so I oh my God I do not It's not allegorically put any of this together. Like, Clark is the story of Moses, and then we've turned him into a Christian entity because we're American. It totally is the story of Moses, isn't it?

Even the parting of metropolis looks like the Red Sea Party. So you've got over time, like we've got this country that is a separation of church and state. But it's a Christian country, so we've, since Superman is so Americanized because he's an American icon, we've co-opted him to be a Christian icon. But it's a Jewish character. And I personally love this. played by a Jewish actor and that's that he was invented for the purpose of that oppression so I think it's important I'm learning so much from you too today I'm learning so much from you also I'm going to become Jewish today who we got next up here John all righty we got a couple

more before we got to refresh the page then we'll move on to the uh back to the supas all right how's the chat doing is the chat surviving regular chat they're still in there is it moving chat's doing all right uh jose Jake H is next. Your mom just did this. Wrap it up. No, that is, I can't read it fast enough. That's a good problem.

Good problem. I thought I was like, are we boring you, Stephanie? Let's move it alive. I'm sorry, we had to take our time with the sensitive subjects just now. Let's just pick this pace up a little bit. Well, if the genres say we got to hurry.

All right, all right. Our audience in the room is already boring. Jake H., thank you so much for chiming in. Being a human. is my greatest strength, and someday, for the sake of the world, I hope you realize it's yours, too. The rest of that speech was a little cliche, but this made me fist pump. Cried at the end kiss more than anything. Happy Birthday Rocks?

Hell yeah, happy birthday rocks. Maybe. Put an exclamation there. Question. Thanks, Jake. I'm Roxburgh. Yeah, that is a beautiful moment. Did that make you cry that speech?

I cried like 70 times during this. It was actually, honestly, that's why I need to go see it again because I was so emotionally moved during so many parts that I feel like I actually have missed something. Yeah, you're two seats down. I was like, please shut up. I can't hear the movie because if you're welling up right now. I was sitting next to John John, I like grabbed you at a few different times. And then I kept being like stop doing that, Roxy. But like I was just like so I don't know. It felt like I couldn't like hold on to anything tight enough. I was like I was going to float away or something. I know that speech made John Corrie. I that's a very moving speech for sure. What I picked up on. on that nuance of that speech was, oh, they've been having like a back and forth or a long time, haven't they? I didn't actually pick up on that in the movie. You mean Lex and Superman? Yeah, I didn't quite pick up on the history of that until that moment. They met in the office when he fussed in. Yeah, yeah. But I think what he's saying there is like, this is what

you've always got it wrong about me. Oh, right. Yeah. Lex has been speaking at Superman for a long time. Yeah, but I've never really, I didn't see any scenes in particular earlier that were indicative of like Superman feeling vexed by Lex or like this guy's been coming down on me for so fucking long or some shit or that it's been his it seems like it's been super it's been Superman's been his rival

but it hasn't been Lex hasn't been Superman's rival does that make sense? Yeah I think I think Lex cares way more about Superman. Oh 1,000% Superman's like ah I think we see that also in that crypto moment which I loved where Superman doesn't actually want to hurt Lex No, no. Cryptos tossing legs around.

Superman's like, chill, chill. Because it's like, he doesn't want to hurt anybody. He wants Lex to be better. Yeah. He, like, says, like, I can't wait for the day that you realize the importance of this because like how much you'll help humanity. Yeah. Because Lex could.

I didn't actually pick up on that last line, really, even though I've seen it twice. I hope you realize it's yours too. That's what I mean. Like, it's Superman even once better of Lex. Yeah. It's power of rewatches. You catch something. Or for someone like Jake, the power of one watch.

And they hear everything. thank you Jake who's next up here Kevin Meek a royal a royal rejecter John I can't hear you anymore can you guys sorry about that there he's back we're back

yes we got one more and then we'll do a refresh on this page but yeah Kevin Meek thank you so much good to see you just a thought but I think the major thing that sets this movie and Superman apart from the rest are Ma and Paw Kent

fucking love him so much seeing Clark at home will be a major part of building the DC The DCU, they were at... Take that E-out, John. Sniter! They were that important, in my opinion, and my favorite part of the movie. They sound just like Koi's parents.

They do. They do. You put them on camera. Here's Dad. Ah, they are Korn. They remind me so much of my grandparents. My real, like, you've met my grandparents, right? Yeah, yeah.

They remind me so much in I'm on Poppy. Actually. Well, funny enough, I have heard complaints. about how they're two southern. I have heard that. I've heard that from like people's like not Midwest enough. Like it distract.

No, no, I mean like it's they're distractingly so different to people. I was struck when Ma showed up. Okay. So I think that's total. Struck how? I was like,

oh wow, they're really going like full on Midwest mom. Like you were taking a bat? Not southern. In a good way. Yeah. Like not as polished and like, you know,

she's got a full on accent. She's got the. these mannerisms, she's clearly like, you know. I like that they were in Hollywood. Like, they're farmers. Well, yeah. 100%. No, it was good.

It was just refreshing because you're used to see the Hollywood version. Like with Kevin Costner, known farmhand. Like, that man's a Western icon, but not a man that's towed. There's like consistencies with interpretations. Like even with Superman, you kind of expect a little bit of the way you carry yourself and deliver certain lines. You've got to be a certain type of symbol in the way you speak. Even though Cornswain's more of that personality.

And mom, pod can't have never been this distinct that much in the person. personality. And so I think there are people who have been very distracted by that or thought they leaned too much into it. Um, I think it was an amazing choice. And it made it so much more human. And I read for all seasons because of coy. And they are so that even more. Right from it, man. Yeah, in the comic, they're even way more of that. They're old as shit in that comic. And they are so that personality of farm people. Greg, at risk of pissing off the people with parents, apparently John doesn't like what I do that. Apparently people with parents don't like Can you bring up that we have dead?

Somehow they personalized. John stormed out of the room and kicked and screamed. My parents are just shaking their head slowly. Like, we're right here. You're right here. But. Right here, Caw. How do you do with father, son scenes and movies?

Like, especially really emotional. Okay. Like with the proud of you. Stop. You're going to make me cry right now. No, yeah, it definitely always strikes a nerve. complicated relationships and all. And I appreciate James Gunn's openness, too, about having a very complicated relationship.

James Gunn actually said something in an interview that I was like, whoa, I needed to hear that. He said my dad was terrible in so many ways. He was a terrible father in so many ways. But the most important thing he did was he loved me. And I was like, oh, that's so true, isn't it? You know? And, you know, that's not Paul Kent in this movie.

Certainly not, yeah. But my point is the sensibility of that importance of the author of this film, he laced that into Paw Kent. He even has Martha calling him like, mush. Yeah, the whole time. That's so sweet and sensitive. So, yeah, no, generally it can, parents stuff, it generally like messes me up for sure, even before my dad died.

It's like it's always been. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely been a sensitive thing for me. This, I believe this came out on the anniversary of his dad's passing, right? doesn't even know. Dad's birthday. Oh, dad's birthday. Okay,

his dad's birthday. Because there's an internet pundit that was like, that's so selfish. What? What? I don't like the internet. Someone on the internet said it was selfish

to release it on the day of his dad's birthday, and I was like, what a weird take. Yeah, you shouldn't honor people. That's really bizarre. Huh,

that's very strange. That's very strange. That's very strange. I mean, what a take. Does that mess you up? Well, because I,

because the humble brag, I have a dad. He's still alive. So, So I'm very lucky in that sense. So when I see, like, we didn't get as emotional of a scene with his mom as we did with his dad, even though I loved the stuff with his mom. But if the stuff with the dad impacted me, I just always think about my home, like the way that I'm impacted by mom and daughter stuff. Sure, sure.

I was thinking about you when we were all sitting there. And I was like, oh, this must be fucking Greg. This is connecting with me. It's got to be connecting with you. But I think that that's the point of great filmmaking, right? It's like every time I've talked to somebody about this movie, there's been different things that have really impacted people because there's a lot to go off of.

It's not like every single person I'm talking to says that the most meaningful moment was this Paw Kent scene. But some people, some people, it is the humanity speech. There's been, like, I've heard different takes from everybody. Do you have one point? That was my moment. The Paw Kent stuff. I got to talk to Pruitt on the Rick Harpet.

and he hadn't seen the film yet. So I got to tell, like the podcast actor. We hadn't met before, and I hadn't met him before seeing the film, and he hadn't seen the film yet. So I got a really cool moment with him where I got to tell him how much it meant to be. And he was very, like, sweet in that he was like, oh, good, I'm still in it. And then he realized I was being, like, so sincere. Like, it was a jokey soundbody response because, like, you're an actor,

you're especially a theater actor. That's really overwhelming. But as soon as he saw how much it affected me, he, like, really, like, honed it. And we actually had, like, a really beautiful moment of talking about the importance of it. and something it was so special for me it was a really special moment because like this man reminds me of my grandfather and reminds me a lot of my great-grandfather for people who don't know me uh i was born in like deep south virginia and then moved to new york and then Boston and L.A so the way I connect to Superman is the smallville into metropolis side like I really identify

with I don't personally go home to the south as often as I like but when I do I realize I'm relaxed than I've been in however long it's been since I've gone. When I go to Boston, it feels like home. Boston is 100% home. I feel lighter. My shoulders lift up, like all those things, but I don't really relax. I'm like you having to justify to me because you know where in the radio. You're like, no, Boston's home. Boston's for sure. But you know how there's like a home energy and then there's a relaxed energy? When I go to Boston, I feel like I'm home. But when I go to Virginia and I'm with my grandparents, that's the feeling of Smallville to me. So when I was watching Smallville growing up, I had been in New York and Boston

since. And so it made me think of Virginia. And my parents had me at 16 and 17 respectively so my grandparents helped raise me so ma and pa kent were always kind of my mama and poppy they're even called memo and poppy like that's so um him reminded me so much of my my my great grandparents both of them like my grandma dolly and archie they they are that from west virginia appellation like deep south and so those scenes really hit me but he hadn't talked to and had seen it yet so i got to like really convey like hey man this movie's amazing you are the reason I felt connected to this big of a story

like you're the heart for me and it was really beautiful to see him get to feel that and hear that directly before he even saw it and then I talked to him a little bit at the after party and he was like really happy but but that scene and connecting with the man who gave me it and then knowing that James Guns from Missouri

and now was like living this LA city life knowing that James moved back to Georgia like I'm sure this where he feels a little bit more comfortable I think it's important for Superman to feel good in Metropolis and in Smallville, but those feel different. Yeah. So I love Paul. Beautiful. Beautiful. Great opportunity for an underrated

veteran character actor, too. Just like Pruitt Taylor Vince is terrific. Yeah, he played a pervert in Monster, the Charlie Ceremony. Oh, yeah. Did he? He's one of my favorite movies. And he's the guy in identity. That's right. Yes. He's

the guy in identity. I am so glad he also has Isabelle Merset. She's been in a lot of stuff too. Ma Kant. She's been working forever, too. We got so many okay. We got a lot. So really quick, I do want to acknowledge. When we started this stream, we were like a 250 people watching.

Now we're at 1,550 people watching. That's great. That's amazing. This might be some of our biggest concurrency. This is good. It's been going up. Thank you. Thank you, guys. And they're all being so lovely. And I've been hopping back and forth, but I've been a lot of the main actual live chat.

And thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you. Shout out really quick. I refreshed the stream labs page and Kevin Meek did send a follow-up. Okay. That I think we should button this up and then we'll go back to super chat. Thank you, thank you. Kevin Meek, just showing you support, just sent another very generous chat and said just showing support. You guys have been kicking ass, keeping up with all the content you put out together and individually has been cool.

I see all the hard work and use it for fuel myself. Really? Really? Oh, thank you. So nice. And he's already like one of our royal rejects, one of our patrons. Absolutely. Thank you so much, Kevin.

Absolutely. We shout you out monthly. Go, Kevin. Get a Kevin. Kevin, me. You bounce them. It just makes up song lyrics. I do.

You don't want to hear the song lyrics I've been making up recently. All right. Well, John pulls that up. Roxy, we're going to look at the regular chat really, really quick. Hell, yeah, we are. I can't wait. I bet you it's just a bunch. I have great eyesight, so I don't have to look really closely to see it.

It's just going to be a bunch of negative comments. I bet you. They're coming in super fast. Oh, no. Mr. Terrific was great. Oh, crap. John, pull up the supers. John.

We'll be shouting our round in ones. Absurdie. We're seeing you here. Mo 8 seeing you here. Stephanie Xandro. Hey, what's up, Stephanie?

Good to see you. Oh, that's so funny. Jim Mags. What's going on? Okay. All right. Super chats. We're good.

Sean Gween is in the chat too. He's been commenting. He's been commenting. That's a really meta way to put it. You got it up, John? We are good. We got, let's see, next up, I believe, after Jeff Carroll and always remember, is Drew.

Thank you, Tyler Adams, for being here, too. Drew says, and thank you, Drew, for stoking the Convo Fire. Hello, Real Rejects, loved the movie, David is My Superman. My only issue with the film is making the L bad. As someone who loved Superman, smashes the clan, having the biological parents of an immigrant to be evil, not for me. Oh, this is what you, exactly what you were speaking to, that sometimes this will actually, that's, I'm sorry, I didn't even hear any of this or consider this until you said something, Roxy. And then actually, this came in probably before you said all that. So it is a thing

that is actually happening. What I think is interesting about it is that if, you know, Superman didn't know what they said before he made the choice to do good. So when people are saying like, oh yeah, but it's about the choices you make and it's like yeah but you didn't know what they actually had said and if you had found out what they had really said when you were a kid and then you made the choice like then you made the choice then we could think oh you actively made the choice but like you've been doing this for so long so that's fair that's a fair point i do completely i i just hear this and i think it's unfortunate because in a vacuum i wouldn't think about this at all but we keep we're they're eating the dogs and cats guys like we keep we keep we keep saying nefarious reasons

people are coming here, not just this country. There's all different countries that are dealing with immigration issues right now that are saying that people are coming to their countries for bad intentions. And my response, most people's responses that are kind, caring people are like, no, they're not. No, they're not. And then there's this biggest movie of the year is like, unless they are, but then they choose otherwise. And I'm like, oh, I feel that, but also I'm scared with that. I'm a little scared that people are not going to interpret that well.

You know, it's interesting. I think I don't really hone too. I see the immigrant allegory when I think about it, but I'm so aware that it's a sci-fi alien coming to Earth thing that I don't really liken it too much to that. Same, Greg. Yeah. Same because it's not, but.

But it is part of it is also still part of the DNA, though, as we've been talking about, that is an allegory. It would have been more interesting if he made, like, call a Jorrell like a Mexican guy. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, I really don't dislike the choice. I actually like the choice. I just, it scares me because of what Coy has mentioned, media literacy, which is more like media illiteracy for some people. I also, my biggest takeaway with the whole like fear of othering people. And I think that's really interesting with the met of humans becoming almost like a

mutant X-Men parallel, like by the end. Like the end of the film has this really. interesting moment where we've had Rick Flagg on the metahuman side and defending them. And then at the end, he sits down and he's like, well, glad you like the metahumans because they make the rules now. And that feels like some of the same messaging of like, you know, these people are are taking control and taking our jobs and all the all those sound bites. But I think it's per for me meant to be a it's a commentary on even people conceiving that. Like I hope people get the message of like and why would you assume that like what's wrong with you i don't think many will but i i thought it was really interesting that there wasn't as big of an uproar in the message until they had to double down and make the message even darker by saying like he's taking a harem and and at first i thought it was like oh because like you know sex jokes can be funny and used as levity and darkness like you know we need to laugh sometimes but then like thinking about it how they continued to use it like the harem idea became we're such a prudish nation that the idea of people

what words can I say on YouTube having intercourse would cause people to be uncomfortable like he is sleeping with multiple people now he's a monster so even beyond the immigration thing I thought it was really a look at our puritanical prudish ways

as a country that were like anything other than our like you know is is a problem so I like that they kind of shown a light on hey you're you're making this you know Bill O'Reilly News Pundit and you're making this guy you know bragging about him liking our women more but you're really making it so you don't like this

guy that makes different choices than you and he's just defending you i think it's a much bigger macro i never personally um pulled that from it uh but i could see that being you know warped this movie taught me what a harem is oh you didn't know we have such different lives not that i've been in a harem i look i turned olivia i'm like what's a herring oh she said uh something you'll never have No, she told me what it was in the middle of the movie. That's hysterical. The joke I said is something she actually would say, but she didn't say that. She probably was so happy that you asked, like, oh, that's my hobby.

But when I heard that, it was, it sounded like, like the implication was to be like a Zeus, you know, like just a pregnant, a shit ton of people. And that I like that as like a thing to fear, but it also speaks to like our sensibilities. Well, you know, it's weird. It's also not what he's doing. As much. Well, that's the, yeah. thinking it's so removed when an immigrant subject gets brought up again someone say the words kingdom come

and then i will lace it into that but who's next on the superchats all right thank you for thank you for that superss that was the right screen all right next up we got cody bishop thank you so much cody how do you feel about the far rights typical fascist response to this movie example woke hope is always the best defense against authoritarianism uh the one thing I'll say is I find it hilarious that Dean Kane does not understand Superman after falling in him for so long. It is a favorite irony. It's like, homie.

Come on, man. I was in a movie with him once. Really? Congratulations. Thank you. So happy for you. I like that. Is Kirk Cameron there every day or did he only show up on Fridays?

Oh, man. I like don't feel that. I feel bad because we're not supposed to steal words, but I honestly don't ever want to hear the word woke ever again. Nobody understands the meaning. It's completely lost the sense of its meaning. Everybody is just made up a different meaning for it. So that like makes my skin crawl when I hear it misused. Also. And people know people grift for it like so aggressively. They look for the slightest inclination. Yeah. I'm confused on who y'all thought Superman was that this movie is more woke than Superman?

I'll say what's kind of interesting is a lot of the YouTube channels who love to capitalize off of anything that seems remotely woke have come out and been like, I don't think this is a good movie, but it's not woke. Like, funny enough, that's been a common consensus. Huh. I've heard a lot of people call it woke. Oh, yeah, a thousand people. A lot of people still will, though.

Yeah. Yeah, and you know, like, we did a whole thing on this, Greg. The discourse online after we liked this movie was like, liberal, not straight shills. There was one comment I said, Greg. Oh, the gay, Muslim, a feminist, a gay and a Muslim. They called me a feminist, John, a gay, and you a Muslim. The person said, oh, I should listen to a, yeah, like, they said I should listen to a feminist, a gay, and a Muslim. And then Roxy texted me, like, who's who?

I'm definitely the Muslim. Because John could be a feminist and I could be gay. You know, it's funny. When you said it, I thought it was going to be feminist because of how much he loves his wife and like to defendants. And I thought it was going to be Muslim just because you have long hair. Yeah, me. I was actually like, I was mistaken, but I'm gay in that one.

Oh, 100%. My question is which bar did we all walk into? Yeah, and what's the punchline except for they're embarrassing themselves? And then there was one comment that has so many likes and it was like, I'm not going to listen to three Jews talk about this. And I was like, well, good for you. because there's only one Jew here. There was so much, so much crazy.

Like, the amount of names that we were called was for saying we like the movie was wild. So I don't know about, like, saying the far right on this versus just saying, like, the people who are making these statements, I feel like they have to be a vast majority bots because I just can't bring myself to believe that that many people feel like this movie was, was not in the vein of Superman

and was on purpose just like woke? I know I'm not expressing myself perfectly here because my brain feels melted on this. Brett Sterling Green in the chat says Crypto was clearly the most woke dog ever done. He is pure white. What do you mean? He's attacking billionaires. He's a straight-up abuser.

We saw what he did to Zubergirl. I want to take this opportunity. Because I don't have anything. It was a joke, by the way. That was a joke that I just made. You have to spell it out. Yeah, holy crap. Because I don't have anything constructed to say this, except for thank you for the super chat.

I appreciate your candor. But I do appreciate that, speaking of media literacy, the White House shared an image of a certain person as Superman, when the book that Lex is largely based off of is an autobiography that features that exact man as the basis of the book. Like, literally there was a biography of a certain. sitting president that was written in the 80s and then there was a comic based off of that that takes the image of that that I recommend to you and that is a large basis of the character and so to be that stupid and to make that the image is just one it's great advertising because anyone smart enough to know gets to see the hypocrisy but two like to be that dumb yeah it seems

nice but it would get old like do you just be putting are you Voldemorting this I that's exact word I just don't I thought I was like, oh, I guess it's a he who must not be named. I don't want to say the name because I know that the monkey bots like listen for the name and they jump in comments. They do. And I just avoid it. So yes. They'll trump the comments.

Yeah, they will. Yeah. I got so far. I'm glad to saying they're like, there's no way he doesn't remember. No, I just don't like even giving a name power when it's just so embarrassing. So I just thought it was really funny that that was the White House's statement. And it's embarrassing. We've lost even the White House's social media.

Anyway. What are we going to do? Who's next up here? Next up we got Dashun McCheney. Did the chat dip significantly when Koi started doing He Who Must Not Be Named?

We got five concurrence and they're all calling us woke shills. No, we're doing great, gang. Dashun Cheney is next. Thank you for being so generous. I am a Batman person so I don't expect much

for a Superman movie. Just hope it's not all kidish. That's why I'm not much of a fan of the originals. Besides two, the DC AMU has the best Superman that I actually like then Man of Steel Thank you so much for this support

Thank you. Is there a question? It's just a comment. I'll have a statement they were reading. I love you like that. But which DC AMU are you talking about? Speaking of DC, oh, that's another thing I loved. This reminds, I grew up the only... I think he's talking about Superman animated Superman.

Yeah, there's the Jerry O'Connell Superman. DCAMU, you had like death of Superman. It's the big long continuity that we... But the animated series is so good. And the DCAMU was one consistent long Superman? I saw a lot of them, but I didn't know if they were all like the same Superman. The first story arc, I believe, is mostly all Jerry O'Connell. And then the second story arc they switch to, I believe, Darren Chris.

Okay. Well, I was going to say that like the Superman, the animated series, which I did start to revisit leading up into this, this reminds me the movie itself feels a lot like. We just got it for 20 bucks on Amazon, the whole series. You could get it on HBO Max for available. Not as good quality. Streaming is never as good. Wow.

Go watch Koi's DC Studios podcast. I'm just saying streaming is never as good as physical media. And people know that, but also stream my show at HBO Max. If there were Blu-R-R-R-Rays, I'd sell those. I'm just really, I'm grateful for the super chat, for every super chat. You guys rock. Thanks for supporting us. I like both Batman.

and Superman. Yeah. Sometimes I'm dark. Sometimes I'm hopeful. Yeah, exactly. I have bad days full of vengeance and bright days full of hope.

But that's the beauty of the contrast of when you have them pair up. If they're similar, it wouldn't be enjoyable. Wouldn't be nearly exciting and dynamic. Yeah, exactly. It wouldn't be a dynamic. It wouldn't be the world's finest.

Yeah, the world's fine. The world's the finest. And speaking of people who are fine, David, thank you for chiming in from Great Britain. It's been a crazy week for DC fans in the UK

Season 1 of Creature Commandos dropped on Tuesday Wow, you only just got it That's barks Creature Commandoes dropped on Tuesday And we got an absolutely incredible Superman movie I've been nonstop excited

And happy birthday, Roxy That's so great to hear That's from Liverpool, apparently Dave, you're doing the work Thank you Well, it's somewhere, it's off from all over there That is great. It's really good job, John.

Thank you. It's great to hear from someone from UK is because when we were hearing about, oh, this might not be testing so well. A lot of that reporting was saying, it seems like it's mainly coming from the UK where audiences aren't being as receptive to it. This is here's someone from the UK say that. But this did make me go, like, well, everything we've gotten from DCU so far has been from the voice, not just James Gunn producing. It's literally he's authoring like Creature Commandos, Superman and Peacemaker. I really am excited to get a different author though like Supergirl like I love James guys

he has I've said it before he's one of my favorite filmmakers I just really respond to his voice and so that's why I was nervous as hell to meet him and I by the way I got that interview after we recorded our review some people think I got yeah you emailed to see if there was a spot walking out of the movie in response to the movie because I loved it so much you were like I want to talk about this

to meet this guy if there were a possibility so yeah but anyway That, I mean, because I love Press Day, a day where it was just him because I was curious about No, no, no, that's just the only one you talked. That was the only one they let me have access to, yeah. Okay.

But I could see all the other ones. And that's who you requested specifically. I just requested to get in on it. I would have taken anyone. Okay. I would have taken the dog. Was he there? Dogs, 100% of CGI.

There were dogs there. They're just key in the room. Was he there? The dog? We saw Stitch, do press. That's true. Yeah, Crypto is just ripping up a report. No, yeah. I did. Come at me, bros.

No, but I did see Perry Nemeroff. That was cool. Oh. But thank you. Thank you, David. As many people see her before the movies. How cool is that? She's amazing. Her career jump has been amazing, and she so deserves it. She's such an amazing interviewer, and it's, like, so cool to, like, see how far she's come. I really love her work. Perry.

Pounce out to Perry Nemeroff. All right. I'm saying that because I'm the feminist out of the three of them. Yes. All right. Model mood. So which one am I? You're the gay. You're the gay Muslim.

I am all three. All right. Model Moon, thank you so much for joining in the chat. Didn't hear you guys talk about it, but did you catch the JSA mural in the Hall of Justice? Yes, we did. I think I caught Wildcat, Jay Garrick, and Dr. Fate. Would you want to see a project about them? And if so, what would that, if so, what would you want that to be like?

Oh, that would be incredible to get that. That was one of the cool things about the DC TV shows, is they really love. them like lean into a lot of that especially with like jay garrick um hmm i don't know what i would actually want that to be like you got a pitch rock uh well less a pitch and more you said would we want that i'm a little stressed about how many things i want right now like the story of my life but in regards to seeing this movie i was like ooh more guy um definitely more hot girl yep super girl for sure we're getting that um like there's just so many things that i want um and what i don't want is five movies a year so i also don't know that this is something that we

would care about in five years um you know and and then not even to mention things that we didn't get in this movie that i want like batman so um or wonder woman um so i i don't know that this is on my top list of like what i need now but i understand understand that this would be cool. It just, I don't think it moves the needle for me as much as some other properties would. Well, with the quote unquote competitive comic book property for DC, they've done a weird thing with their narrative of making the shows feel significantly less than the movies. And yet I've watched every single one.

So do we. So do we. You watched Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Stargall. I was talking about the current era. I was talking about Marvel. She has spent hundreds of hours. I was talking of hundreds of hours. A decade of my life.

Black Lightning, come on. I was trying to say, I was trying to say Marvel has put their shows down into a lesser tier lately. I understand. Continue, sir. But I did watch. I watched Mosaflash and I watched all Arrowwoods the one I definitely I loved Arrow. I loved the very controversial, Stephen O'M.

Is it? Apparently, he's just like pisses people off. all the time. He's got like a bad attitude. Some union stuff is certainly the choice. That was just one thing. Apparently he's got like a bad attitude, but whatever. Sweet on a cons. And I really enjoy watching him as a performer. But I think though with something like this, there's opportunity to do a show.

And I think they're elevating their, I think they're going to elevate their shows in a way that doesn't feel like, you know, second grade material. Like the fact that they got such prowess and prestige people behind lanterns, I think is a big testament to where they're aiming for their show. I also think HBO, no disrespect to Disney Plus, but you kind of messed up Marvel a little bit. I think HBO is a little bit more prestigious than Disney Plus, so I like the idea of aiming towards that caliber of show than putting out content. And I personally think this set of heroes, I'm much more modern DC than I am golden age DC just as far as my sensibilities. So I could see this being a down the line choice or maybe flashbacks, but I think they're very smartly right now looking at what's going to be a blend of hits and critical. analysis, right? So you've got Superman, big tent pole, you've got the announcement

having a blend of like a swamp thing, you know, like those curveballs. But at the end of the day, a GSA thing would be pretty expensive to start with. I think maybe down the line, I think what it does is show depth of time. I think 300 years of metahumans, it's smart to show different heroes from another era. I think

it's going to feel much more like the comics where Jay Garrick is a flash of another time, where Dr. Fate does feel like a bygone hero. I think it's more contextual than it's going to be an adaptation. And I think that's really smart. Definitely. Speaking of Jay Garrick, I have a question. This isn't a question you guys asked in the chat.

I know we're trying to move quickly, but who do you guys want to be our Flash? Wally West? Do you do. Oh, I think I'm an actor. No, no, no, okay. Wally West. Yeah, me too. Yeah, we haven't had him.

And like, Barry's really great as a character. I love his optimism. I love his altruism, but he's a lot more similar to other heroes than Wally. And I think in a universe where comedy needs to balance drama, I think Wally is a better balance for right now. Is Wally your flash? Yeah, but I'm also of a certain age. Yeah, that's why I asked. Kyle Rainer is my Greenlander.

That ain't happening soon. Listen, we don't know that. We don't know. I have been trying very hard. I know. I've mentioned it in so many interviews. If there's anything, I'm trying to Incept. Hey, Mr. Miracle inception worked.

We're going to miss Mr. Miracle show. But don't you think? I was talking about Mr. Miracle so loud in every meeting. You did that. I'm like, it's time. Tom King is in another room. Do you want Wally West? I'm kind of, uh,

you're not, a flash person as much. I'm not, I'm not like, I don't have a specific strong preference but i do think that like lanterns is already doing like older held jordan and and john stewart so i i don't know what the reception would be fun then i don't know if yeah i don't know what the reception would be as well received like why do they keep skipping over the first one you know the first the main type he's not the first one but the most you know uh popular one you know i think in this case because we just had yeah yeah twice i think it's a little recent you know i think you need i don't think we should have an aquaman for a little bit i don't think we should have barry allen

for a little bit. But we should get two Batman. But we should have a flash. What is going to make money so we can keep making this, Greg? There's seven Batman comics. We've got to make money. That's interesting you don't think we should have an Aquaman. I think Aquaman should be like a third wave, not even second. I think we need Wonder Woman and Batman. Compare him to Marvel. Where do you think you should come in?

I'd say he is above Ant Man, but after or around Guardians timeline wise. I think it's a shift in tone that we will. need, but it can't be right at the jump because of how recent it was. Because the recent Aquaman we had was Lobo and both metaphor and literal in this case. So we need to have, I think we need an Aquaman like Super Friends. I think we need an authentic Aquaman. I think the universe has to build out a little bit more before that tone will work. And I think, I already feel like with the tone James Gunn has established that the more accurate

Aquaman would actually. The Aquaman of the comics fits. If Aquaman showed up in this Superman movie, like, yeah, that fits. But I don't think we can have another movie. like Superman yet. Like Supergirl is going to feel different. Like you were saying, the spinner rack energy, we need that. If we have an Aquaman too soon, it's going to feel like the Superman tone. I think we need to grow Superman's tone. We need the variety of times, yeah. Who's next up here? I'm with you guys. Who's next? Next, huge, huge. This is a major

coy question here. Oh, thank you so much. Hello, people. Are there any comics where Green Lantern's power work how they do in the movie? It was cool to see multiple constructs come from the ground, including that big old middle thing. There are comics where it's usually 90% of the time I'm going to be a beam from, but like he pointed at the ground and then it sprung up. So to me, it was a wave coming out of the ground. And they also like went out like a wave.

So there are comics where that occurs. I know a lot of people were upset. You didn't see the direct beam go into the ground and then back up. It's tricky because artists make that decision. So like someone might interpret the powers differently, visually than another. Again, 90% of the time, I get you wanting that beam. but we saw that every other time

you used the power like there was always that kind of like it felt authentic to me to answer your question I can't think of a comic where there is that gap between the power construct and the item

but I'm sure there are yeah it's cool it only dawned I mean in this middle of this conversation that the show is called Green Lantern core right show's called lanterns it's called lanterns okay

but what they are building is the core which they mentioned a lot and the vowel and stuff was chose to. I love that. Hence the S in lantern. Because I kept saying the I was saying like oh we're starting off with like Hal Jordan and John Stewart and I'm like oh yeah but there's a green

lantern that's also in here as Guy Gardner and it is pretty cool that like this is I didn't even dawn on me until now I'm like oh they're building out the core. We've already got a multi-end lantern thing yeah that's pretty sweet and we do have Hal Jordan in the lantern I mean you're saying you don't want to skip the first one we're getting a Kyle Chandler one I'm curious how that's going to

work out. Yeah yeah it's going to be fun stuff Jessica Kyle we still have so many to go guys yeah cord out I'm very excited for that Nestro

speaking of so many to go there's a lot of super chats you get thought out Roxy oh no no no I

we had to go so I swallowed it all right be beautiful keep it nice words myank

non Navarre thank you so for joining in and the feminist and the feminist and the Muslim

and the Jew all right hey Greg Roxy and In that order. Did any of you noticed, the Mitsublidilic reference? Mr. Pixelspilic. When Superman mentioned the justice gang fighting the dimensional im.

No, what? I caught the fifth dimensional imp, is that the imp? Because Mixiplitlic is a fifth dimensional imp. So I caught that reference. Was there a more direct reference? Because I definitely, I got excited because Mr. Mr. Plitlick is a fifth dimensional imp. And there's all the, like, batmite is a fifth dimensional imp. Like those, those are from the fifth dimension.

But we know James the gun loves Batman. He does love that one outside the window, though. Yeah, I don't know if there was a Mixey specific or if he's talking broadly of Mixey being fifth dimensional. Man, when that pocket dimension showed up, I was so worried it was going to be like that Tom Cruise mummy movie where it was like here's,

or the email in Batman Bs 2? I was like, oh, is this where all your setups going to be? And they just like steer it away from all that. Yeah. I like that looked. The pocket dimension? Yeah. Oh, I thought it looked so trippy and cool.

It looked like a golden. age comic. It looked like a drawing. Yeah, I've heard a lot of criticism. It was a bit of an adjustment. Honestly, the first like 20 minutes of this movie was a bit of an adjustment. I wasn't someone who was like thrown in and I landed right away. It took me a little bit of time to adjust. The first 20 minutes of the movie? The first 20 minutes of the movie and the pocket minutes of the movie and the pocket dimension comes in pretty early too. But I like the pocket dimension

over, especially when it's like metamorpho and all that too. We haven't talked it all about metamorpho. There's some things I want to make sure we do talk about at some point. So metamorphal, Supergirl. A little bit of kingdom come, but we'll keep a look out for that. Beautiful. I'll find a way to just naturally make it about that. It's going to be seamless. Now that you've announced it, it's going to be so, you won't even see it coming. You didn't think about it ahead of time. This tangent was

so organic. You're going to see, guys. Gareth H. is joining in the chat, and I wonder if this might be our old friend, Gareth Hood. It is. It is. The denomination of money. Anyway, thank you so much for chiming in. It's great to see you hear from you. Love, loved, loved this Superman. They made Superman vulnerable and

relatable, which was always a problem for this character. Happy, they jumped into the situation rather than a slow buildup. Overall, warm, touching, thoughtful. I agree, because, like, part of the vulnerability and the warmth that surprised me was with metamorpho. Ah! What an organic transition! I just thought of it just now.

Dude, it's crazy. I was just thinking the same. That was warm, touching, and thoughtful. Yes. Metamorpho. I loved him in this, dude. I just thought it was so honestly warm touching and thoughtful. Like that that's one of the times that I was tearing up the hardest.

Really? Why? Just like when you feel trapped and like you can't do the right thing or people around you will get hurt. I just really connected with that moment and I just really felt for him like I just thought it was really, really upsetting. It's also the darkest moment of the movie. What's the name of the character? What's his name? Misi, meat, the food vendor? Yeah, I don't know his name.

I think it was Misi. Oh, with the Russian roulette scene. Yeah. Like, oh my God. Just that the whole sequence was shocking and so menacing of Lex and so thinking about. And flippant. I love that he was so dismissive. Right.

So thinking about metamorpho and like what, we only saw some of it. Like think about what's been happening. And why he is so afraid. And what he's seen. And what the rest of the people have seen? Because they were like, uh, he's doing a thing.

Give me a reward. Right, which is like, talk about things that we've seen throughout history is, uh, people doing that and like calling out the people who are trying to do the right thing because they're afraid of being caught for that person or whatever. Just that I was like really upset and moved.

I like the way they lace like hints of how he's been on earth. Like he goes to see his baby when he finally gets his baby, calls him Joey and you're like, oh, Oh, it's a half-human baby, yeah, I guess. What is the history about him not being able to hold the baby while he changes arms? Because he needed the powers to project himself, so he didn't have arms. But what, right, but what happens with the bait?

Like, I would just- He's got to stay stable to hold the bait. I guess, but I would think he would just kind of, like, become a part of. That might absorb the baby. He's becoming like an ad-at-Adam mixed other things. Maybe he's like, I just don't want to risk it, bro. But then he is able to whip himself. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. John, I'm so sorry. You have hit that, like 50 times. But it fell the first time. I'm shocked I was here to catch this moment. But then he is able to wrap his arms around Superman and help pull my one point. Yeah, yeah, I saw that too. I was just kind of curious about like the extent of that, but it didn't bother me.

I was just like, huh. I think the biggest subversion is someone who doesn't know metamorpho, but just going off of how films are with him is when he spoke. Because when you see the trailer and you see his face, people were like, who is this guy? Who is this guy? And I think the natural assumption when you see a voice like a face like that is like the type of voice that's lower or older or something. And it's just Anthony Kerrigan's like soft, tender voice. Sweet lab.

Yeah. And you think he's going to sound like a villainous g? Yeah. And but having that immediately makes him feel humanized. And so I like the inverse of sensitivity that the character actually presents based off of judging off of the superficiality. of how someone looks. I think that's why I like the, you know, Clark having a deeper voice than Superman.

I like that Superman felt very approachable in his tenor. And like that was a decision. I think it was a decision with metamorpho. Because I think you're right. Like he's going to look away. You're going to feel like he's going to talk away. I think metamorpho really worked for me because you could tell how much,

I mean, some of it's from interviews, some person talking to him on my interview, but Anthony Kerrigan really invested in the chemistry side. Like I loved him like going through the science of the character and like him actually having to summon up the idea of what he's creating. Because if he's able to do all different elements, how would you tune in to what you're making? So I really like the concentration of that when he was creating.

And I really felt that in the character. And that, I think, added a lot of depth to a character that might not have felt. It might have felt like a deusis machina. Oh, he can make any element? Yeah. But instead, you're like, you feel the weight of him being trapped, of him having to conjure, of him doing all that stuff. And that's testament to Anthony.

It requires an intelligence in order to make the powers work. And externalizing the powers. I really like that it was like a, you know, a spell. Good point. Side question for you. Speaking of people you've spoken to, I'm like completely obsessed with Skyler. Oh my. Did you see us twinning?

Yeah. Do you know the story of that? What do you think I'm about to ask you about, bro? Tell me, please tell me the story. I audition for Supergirl as Jimmy Olson. And I remember you and I talking about it in DC movie dues. I went out for Jimmy. McCod Brooks got it.

But I went like four rounds to be Jimmy Olson for the CW. And I was like so excited because I love Jimmy Olson back when I was an actor boy. And Skyler and I had, it's funny because I, I, in the same era, I was like within five years, I went out for Jimmy Olson and Flash Thompson. And I was like, this is why I can't get cast. No one knows who I am. Those are like such opposite characters. But it's funny like talking to Tony Robloy over the years.

We've talked about our Flash Thompson's. So when I was talking to Skyler, we talked about our respective Jimmy Olsons. But Skyler just is Jimmy Olson. So he would ask me questions because he was just like, oh, it's something I'd do. And I was like, you're just like, you didn't act. You're just Jimmy. So once I saw the movie, we got to compare notes of all the things we had talked about. We did not plan to wear the exact same outfit.

So on the red carpet, I'm interviewing him, and he's walking away. And my mom's with me at the red carpet. She goes, you know, you guys are twinning. And I was like, the Jimmy's Olson. So he came back over. We started talking about that. And then at the after party, we took our picture of us as twins. But that's the only character I would ever play in the Superman world.

So the fact that I was dressed like the DCUs, Jimmy Olson made me happy. So we twinned. That was awesome. It was so precious. Hell yeah. I love that actor. You were like, do you know the story? Bro.

Oh, perhaps I should tell you on air for the people. I said, I have a question for you. Skyler's the best. I love Santa Clarita Diet. I know you're like. He's an absolute delight. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Kermit the Frog. Hey, John. What's next? Shout out to the chat. I believe Molly was the Russian roulette character's name. Everyone's filling that in. And Skylar Gizzo. That scene was so heartbreaking.

That was such a good scene. Did you guys catch the Clark Kent newspaper where he's like the real hero of the story and he made an article about him? Oh, no. Didn't he catch that. So at the end, he's like the real hero of Metropolis and it was a whole special on him. and it was like byline by Clark Kent. So even in that moment, Clark Kent made that the guy that was really saved the day. He said his name was Molly?

Yeah. Is it M-A-L-I? That's why I thought it was messy. It was Molly. Thank you. Wow. But yeah, that newspaper made me so happy. Wait, I just got chill.

That's special? I want to see this again right now. All right, let's go. All right. All right, Skylar Gizondo, great on Syke as well. Jeff Carroll, thank you so much for chiming in. Also, happy birthday, Roxy, the Real Rocks star. Keep being your amazing self.

Thank you so much, Jeff Carroll. Thank you for this contribution. So sweet. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you for saying happy birthday to Roxy. Thank you. L.J. Spears, long justice. Thank you so much.

Love y'all. I think this movie brings us to a new age of hope and positivity as a culture, and some cynics will be left behind and will be better as a species for it. I so agree with you, L.J., and, you know, speaking of cynics, people have been pretty cynical about this like Supergirl thing. That was such a natural tension. What an organic thing to say. Well, I mean, we did a whole video about it, so we don't have to talk too much about it.

But I really want to hear your thoughts on it, Roxy, because like for me, like my quick thoughts, my like 20 seconds of thoughts, it was a little odd. But when I read Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, I liked it a lot more because it's very akin to that. It's so weird. It's almost like we're about to post a clip out of that on our social that's already been edited because we did watch it. Jasmine and I, so yes. Yeah, we call the people who falls on socials the rock star rejects now. But what was your honest impression when you first saw her show up in the whole scene? I love Supergirl as a character. I know the character decently well, so that was like the least jarring moment for me ever. Is she depicted like that in the show? No. So that is the one reason

that I believe that may be the most famous version of Supergirl is the Melissa Benoit's Supergirl, that would be the most known years of the canon that people are comfortable with. And she is extremely well put together and very much like Clark in the sense that like she, in all senses

honestly, struggling a little bit with her love life and you know like some bad moments but for the most part she's very reliable put together not going out in like raging face kind of character and I think that Melissa did an unbelievable job the show was

really fun and nothing against that, but I'm so happy we're not doing that again. I'm so happy that we're going to see what I think is a really cool dynamic between Superman and Supergirl, the juxtaposition of them, because why would I want, you know, we didn't have a Superman on screen when we had Melissa Benoist as Supergirl. So that was kind of filling that void for me. Why would I want our Supergirl to fill a Superman void when we just introduced a Superman I love? So I'm really excited about this. So like the drunk side of her didn't feel like too humorous to you? I really didn't because like wouldn't we think that this is what aliens are?

They're different. They're not all the same. They're not a monolith. Like we're not going to see 50 different versions of Clark come through. So I felt like they were making like just like humans. We come in all different sizes and whatever. like we're all looked very different. We have different values and different thoughts.

I think they taught us out about his parents. They taught us about him and then they showed us a little about Supergirl. They different. So it wasn't jarring at all to me and I kind of like was looking for that humor. And especially with her with that crypto moment, I thought was so delightful to see what like, why is Crypter such a menace? It's like, oh, just like here, if you do not train your dog well, they become a menace to society. So, looking at Clark, it's like, no, Clark would certainly have not allowed crypto grow up to be like crypto. Of course, now, we see the owner and it's like, oh, makes sense.

And I think it immediately draws a clear distinction when this movie talks so much about the nurturing versus like nature or whatever. And you see that like, oh, they had two very different upbringing. Yeah. Two very different nurturing is what I'm trying to say, you know. It's like it's giving Star Wars. Come on. I got to leave in 10 minutes. but I haven't called in my parents yet.

And you guys have different, like you, I've read this comic. It's one of my favorite comics of all time. I've had Greg read this comic. Do you guys want to say what you thought of that scene? Because I feel like it's a good time for your cameo. Yeah, come here. Get your asses in here.

Come on the mic. Because my dad grew up reading some of these comics, but hasn't read Woman Tomorrow. My mom has read none of these comics. So I would love to know what a casual movie go. Don't forget your overalls, your straw hat. Yeah, don't forget. Now they're going to be revealed as city folk.

All right. Here you go, Mother. Where you face him? This is you. This is the camera. Talk there. I think Ma'Kent was underutilized personally. Paw Kent was great.

Nothing to do with Supergirl. Supergirl, I think, was fun because her trauma was... Justice for Ma Kemp. Okay, Ma Kent, tangent, then Supergirl. So Supergirl, showing her trauma through a comedic voice, I think is a very positive way of dealing with mental health and I think we need to appreciate that

and definitely having the dog being so chaotic is a direct response to her own personal chaos I agree and I also and that's good without having read the comic because the comic's all about trauma oh and what did you want to see from Markett

I needed more screen time just more screen time more screen time because obviously the guidance and the advice definitely came from a male perspective and I think there was more nurturing perspective and more compassion

coming through the Ma Kent that he Clark embodied so I think there was so much more of Ma in Clark than Paa in the rest of the movie I did not I would never

I felt so much of Paul in him but I feel like no no I'm not that's what I'm saying I'm not saying it's a negative I'm saying like it's crazy that's such a strong feeling because I didn't detect that but I totally see what you're saying yeah I think we all think about the people that we kind of relate to and obviously as a mom you're like no no I know I know I know yeah I know where this is coming because she was a different guiding force in his childhood his upbringing so obviously having two very loving nurturing

parents made him Clark a very well-rounded person just in general and so his choices were something he was developed into as a very young child because he did have a very grounded, loving, parent upbringing. And so he's a reflection of how he was raised. And so his choices aren't always choices because they're so part of him. Engrained in him from his parents. And grained him from a very young age where he doesn't even remember those choices were there. The chat agrees with you and is excited about your cameo and is glad you stood up

talking about Ma as well as Supergirl. No, you're getting a lot of love in the chat right now. We're getting a lot of love. I'm reading the whole thing. I'm on team, Mr. Terrific. So we definitely need a solo movie. I'm so used to social media that when you said, definitely I'm on. I was ready for a plug.

I thought you were going to say like. I was ready for a plug. You find me on Instagram at Steph Amethyst. I am. I'm ready for playing my own Superman spoiler time. At the same time, competing streams. So this is where Koi gets it. Yeah.

High praise. Praise, mom. Thanks to the chat for being kind to my mother. So Mr. Terrific, Ma Kent, and Supergirl, any last thoughts now that you've taken control of the mic? No, I'm good. Mr. Terrific movie yesterday. Yes, definitely. All right. Here's your dad.

Thanks, Ma'Koi. All right, we're going to get dad in the next question. That's applicable. All right, Dad, in, let's see what we got here. You guys can't hear, but there's applause. There's applause. Just raucous applause. All right.

Back to the Supers. We got Ryan Gagargean. Thank you for stoking the fires of conversation. Hey, guys. Thanks for everything you do. I love Superman. It's the most I've ever connected with the character. What did you think of Jeremy John's review of it?

It was very interesting to me. Thanks. I didn't watch it. Jeremy and I worked together for years. Really like Jeremy. I didn't watch this. I know you did Greg. You talked about this.

I'm a massive Jeremy Johns fan. I've met him a couple of times, too. and he was super, super kind. I have a very distinct memory of once making him laugh really, really hard at him pointing at me, and it made me feel so good. He was so kind to me as well. Yeah, I really liked him.

He was friends with John Shep, so I always liked him because he has, he's like a nerdy undercurrent. Yeah, so much respect to him, and now he negatively reviewed the movie, so shred him. No, I mean, I said the nice thing. Moving on.

I have, I follow so many channels where my opinion is a lot of time it's very different. and because I love hearing different opinions. And Jeremy Johns, I often don't agree with him. Like, he wasn't a big fan of Guardians 3. And I love Guardians 3. And it seems like with comic movies a lot of the time,

his relationship with it has definitely like, I'm not saying this, that he doesn't have any valid points. I totally see where he's coming from. But I don't feel like he walked, I don't think he did a review that was like a rage bait type of review. I think his review was very well thought out, very concise. I really respected it.

Actually, his spoiler video, I think, went up, to yesterday, and I want to listen to that, too. Did you watch Dan Merle's non-spoiler? Dan's another one. Like, I love Dan's opinions, and him and I don't see it on this movie either. But I want to hear a spoiler talk as well. So, no, I have no negative. There are some other channels that you know will show up,

and they're like, they seem like they were determined and not like it. Now they're showing it. See, my feelings are validated. Screw this movie. That kind of shit. I don't like that. But I like hearing someone who's going to really explain

in a way that I'm like, I really understand where you're coming from. And I never felt like he was just being negative to be negative to get views. I didn't know that way. So I really like Jeremy John's review. Cool, cool. I turn the camera off so I can bitch about him. Yeah. Who's next up here?

All righty. After Ryan, we got Lone Wolf and Cub Kung Fu. Thank you so much. Times like these make me wish my channel was superhero-centric. so many thoughts love the film felt like a dedication to justice league unlimited big fan koi wow that's so cool to hear pa koi you want to step in and talk about how great koi is we're trying to we try to get you a got to get you an organic came out to get you a cameo before coy dips you in there so there's an edge of couch here by the way my parents are not sitting on

my lap as i saw many of you asking there's a couch it's so much better if they were Yeah, that's the super cut. Hold on. Sorry, Rocks. Oh, no. Go back. There you go. Perfect.

Up. It's showing how the sausage is made. This is a camera. That's Roxie's. Dad's in focus. All right. There we go. So good.

Yeah, what's dad? The mic is a crucial aspect. Well, really quick. I mean, what Koi has told me is that he got into comics because of you. do you find this statement to actually be true? What did you introduce him too? Or is this something Koi's just saying to be nice? Like, what did you grow up loving and why does, how do you think that relation?

How cool is it to see that what Koi is doing for a career now is something you directly influenced? And did you see some type of love for that with the fact that the opposite of your wife's opinion with like the paw and, uh, it's not opposite of the opinion, but like, how did you feel? Or what can't you stand about Koi? Yeah. I like the first question. You want the dirt? Don't have that. Question, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, the real, no, no, I actually was really big in the comics. I had a much smaller collection than him, and most of it's really old now. But it's, you know, the old, it's like old newspapers now. Most of it's not bagged and boarded, but I even stole some of my uncles, old Superman, and that sort of thing from my grandfather's house, and that's all part of my collection. So, yeah, we had it around the house all the time. We used to go to the comic book store quite often and so on.

Since I was five, we've gone to Congressor together. So I imagine you grew up on the Christopher Reeve one. What did you think about this one? Did you love it? Would you put it as one of your favorites of the Superman interpretations, or is it not really? Oh, definitely, yeah. For me, it was one of the better movies of the Superman. He and I were talking about our thoughts of Man of Steel, and I had some problems with it and so on.

It didn't fit the character quite for me and that sort of thing. It's a spectacle for sure, and I love Henry Cavill, but. What do you think about the fact that he let his father die? let's just pivot this conversation here yeah we're talking about dead parents again at every minute where's the knife coil why has the roof being closed in

what is that gas I'm on a break from therapy right now it's clearly showing but the premiere experience like you got to talk to some of our comic book heroes what was that like you raised me on Jim Lee and Frank Whiteley and Dan Jurgens we got to beat them all

I've known Jim a while, but that was like cool to introduce you to Jim. Yeah, Jim was amazing, actually. That was an amazing, he was wild, actually. I wasn't really sure what to expect. Very warm guy, very nice. But to be honest, Dan Juergens and the Quietly was like, oh, that's what they look like. Kevin McGuire pulled us over. Kevin McGuire was like, oh, really what you're doing?

And then he's like, oh, this is Frank and Dan. And I was like, do, do you still read comics? I do not. That's not true. That's true. Doesn't read as many comics. I don't read as much. Because we got a couple of comments in here saying like a coy and his dad doing a comic show would be pretty cool.

I just got him into Department of Truth. He is reading a bunch. I gave him some comics from DC. DC gifted me a whole stack for him. They let me pull a bunch of comics from my dad. So he's been reading, but like you read some stuff I brought him last couple of Christmases for you. So what did you think of some of the stuff I got you for Christmas? Wow.

No pressure. Yeah, no pressure. it's really amazing to see how much the comic book industry has really up the game to be honest I mean obviously the printing the artists and the art is so much better it's phenomenal

the real problem I think for some people is that obviously that pushes them out of the price market they just can't afford it so I think digital hopefully will make that easier but obviously there's something really nice about that tangible thing that you're holding we walked into the comic book store before we got here that's why we were late

and I just love the smell the comic book store. So odd. Changing the time of the show for Koi's schedule. We mapped out the whole way. Then we hit traffic leaving

the comic store. I would have been exactly on time. They can vouch. I mapped everything. It's honestly a good reason compared to what it could have been. I'd rather that than you guys got stuck at breakfast.

We literally mapped it. And I was like, oh, no, panic, backroads. But the Jim Lee moment was something that I really was seeking. Like, my mom, this will be my last little bit because I got a boogie.

But my mom, mom loves Nicholas Holtz so much and like she's in the world of movie and celebrity like she cares about that side of thing so I really want to introduce her to Nick because Nick's such a sweetheart like Nick is such a lovely dude but it's intimidating at a premiere to be like this is his night I don't want to be like this is my mom but then he was like oh tell me about working at the theater and like they talked about like juror number two and they talked about his kids like he was super sweet and warm but my dad is not as interested in like you know Nick Holter like movie stars but I really wanted to introduce Jim Lee to my dad because my dad

and I would grow up and it'd be like, these are all the comic artists and this is this person, this person. And Jim Lee was one of the ones that I was like five. And he was showing me like the transition in art. And like I was raised on Jim Lee's work. And then him and Jim getting along so well and then just bond. And it was like this really beautiful family moment with Jim's wife and Jim. And it was so great. And then David stole my camera and paparazzied my dad. So just a bunch of Superman selfies with my dad. But like it was really warm welcoming. So it was really cool to bring the comic history. He grew up like he grew up showing me why Superman was important. So I got to then introduce him to Superman and Jim Lee, and it was really special.

It's beautiful. Damn, dude. It's having both of you here has really made me go, wow, I see how coy is the product of the upbringing of you. Like, the personalities. I'm like, oh, I see both. Like the Ma and the palm of this entire Superman story. Justice for Ma Kent. He's a reflection of where he came from where he was raised.

Yeah. Not where he was born. Yeah. Because that is irrelevant to his. story his story is the influences that raised him exactly yeah but i think martha said it her martha said it herself that uh martha that uh paul was just mush when it came to clark so i think that's the softer side that's what i detected wasn't from ma and she was making sure everything was run like she like got his boots like i cleaned your boots like she was the one like keeping

things on track because he was mush i loved that like the strength of ma so i just said by pa okay i'm just i'm just offended my boy All right, well, I got a boogie. We're going to have John's substitute for you. John, I'm just going to stay there. I'm going to flip the camera to you. Oh, perfect. Guys, thanks for being so kind.

This should be seamless. Yeah. I appreciate you being so kind to my family. It's going to be good. Thank you guys for being here. Thanks, boyfriend. You too. Family gendro.

Thank you, Chad, for being good to my parents. Where is it that you want me to go so you can get by me? Oh, you're going to go the other way. Awesome. Careful with all the many wires. Hi, have a good visit. Thanks for popping in. Dude, it's good to see you.

Thank you guys for all your help. See you, Koi, homie. Boston's finest, my dude. Thank you. Thank you. You guys are so freaking cute. Goodbye. Good to see you. Everybody in the chat talking about how attractive you guys are, so there's that.

It's facts. All right, let's see what's going on with you guys. Yeah, this is behind the scenes now. Yeah, yeah. We're really. doing the damn thing. What do you mean? What would you have done differently?

Oh, so many things, Rocks. I would have brushed my hair. Oh, that's number one. I would put on a brand new Superman T-shirt available now at Rejectnation Shop.com. Shout out to all the people right now. This chat is moving and grooving.

Do-Eyes. I'm Ossie Seattle, K.O. There we go. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. Jondra, exactly. Malik.

Let me, oh, look, hey, you could get yourself a brand new real let's let's move it into frame here oh look at that wow it's a brand new t-shirt you could procure for yourself but look oh wait hey we're all here we're all back in action oh my god you're not even wearing a superman shirt right now john this is so embarrassing that's what i was talking about that's so embarrassed what i was talking about roxanne also for the first time in my life i'm taller than everybody ha ha ha ha ha ha ha it's very shy ronny of you All right, John, so whenever people come in being like, where's coy, you just have to say in the chat, I'm the replacement. So let's get back to the Supers and Roxanne, when you have to bounce, you just let me know.

I will put a coy picture in frame. All right, let's go, super chats. I can't believe how long we've been live right now. There's a lot of, let me ask you this. Side question. Huh, I got another thought. What is it? No, I'm just saying that's what a lot of was happening here.

Let me ask you this. What is it this time? Whatever. This is a terrible USA and, Roxy. Well, yes. I'm going to make you watch Human Centipede 2 by yourself. Oh, my God. I will join you.

I will join you for Human Centip 2. It's so funny. That's hysterical. If it wouldn't be impossible, I would love to do extreme movie reactions. Because Human Centipede 2 is a real challenge. All right, gang. Austin's back. I'm so excited for all things to do with that video.

Austin, thank you so much. growing up on three Justice League, sorry, the Justice League and J-L-U cartoons. I actually welled up during the intro and fighting with the Justice gang. And it felt like I was transported back into Saturday morning cartoons. Nerdy, I know.

I don't, and again, not to disagree to somebody's feelings, that's awesome that you felt this way, Austin. I didn't get this vibe at all. Saturday morning cartoon? Yes, at all. At all. People keep saying that it was campy

and very Saturday morning cartoon tune-esque, and it did not feel that way for me. The only moment that felt that way for me was actually my choice that I didn't like that the movie made, which was the five years time song, which I love with Mr. Triffick. Oh, you didn't like that? You didn't like the song choice? I thought that that was not a good song choice there. Wow, really?

I love that song. I've listened that song forever. I like love that song. there was a phase where I listened to it on repeat. I loved that moment. I thought that the smash of the two of them was jarring and it felt cartoony to me. I did not actually know that song, so I didn't bother me.

I think most people didn't. So I think that would be helpful. It's just so different to me than that. Yeah, it didn't work for me. But for the most part, I didn't find this to be Saturday morning cartoony. You meant it as a good thing, Austin. I just didn't find it to be that way. I feel like Justice League is more Saturday morning cartoon.

And that's why I was able to actually enjoy Justice League. I haven't seen Justice League since Zach Snyder's Justice League. Yeah, neither have I. So, but I remember being like, I didn't mind this because it's kind of like a Saturday morning cartoon. And it's fun. Well, it's nice to have Saturday morning cartoon be a compliment rather than an excuse. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah, that's why it's like I'm not pushing back because Austin, if it felt like that for you, that's great. But John, do you feel like that for you? Yeah, I mean, it had more of a, it had more of a comic book and by, proxy Saturday morning cartoon kind of spirit in that it was you know colorful a bit mad cap you know you have a lot of one of the things we learn or I

have been privy to watching these DC animated movies is the way that they're able to balance what seems like it would be ridiculous and silly with stuff that's heavier and higher stakes and all those things can work together and that's kind of how this movie

felt like yeah there's serious stuff there's wacky stuff but this is a somewhat wacky world and in that boundary wacky things can be serious you know so yeah that was the kind of Saturday morning vibes I got huh okay yeah but thank you I just felt like

Guy Gardner that I think where it doesn't feel like Saturday morning cartoon is the portrayal of like Guy Gardner just feels so much like a James Gunn character depiction to me that I was more like aware of that so I wasn't really swept up in the lowest felt super not

Saturday morning to May, there was just a lot. Well, it's not everything. It's just it's one of many flavors that the movie coalesces well. We keep, I hear this probably is the number one thing people are saying about this movie. So just because I don't, I didn't feel that way. It doesn't mean that it wasn't real

for people. Sure. To match our volume a little bit, John, can you move your mic a little closer to your mouth? Yes, I'm mainly just trying not to breathe into this. Totally fine. Who we got next on this list, buddy? All right, let's jump back over to the super screen. After Austin, we got Celeste Marie.

Thank you so much for your generosity. I absolutely loved it. It genuinely made me feel so happy, and I think seeing a movie that fills you with joy and hope is really important right now. I'm super excited for the future of the DCU. Hell yeah. I'm so excited for the future of the DCU, too.

I started DC Movie News right after Man of Steel. Do you know how challenging it is to start something when the first thing you didn't like and then to feel like oh my God I still want to be excited and lucky for me I thought of the DCEU there were so many movies I absolutely loved What was your favorite? Wonder Woman

Second favorite Why did you say that? Because Wonder Woman I'm like man That's a kind of an obvious I feel like it's an obvious figure yeah Why? That's what a feminist would say Yeah

What's what a feminist Muslim gay would say Is that for anyone who's just new to the chat And they're like, what fucked up joke is correct me? What is this? The Superman movie about acceptance and hope. I can't believe Greg just said that. I'm trying to slag off whole groups of marginalized people. That's so funny that that just happened.

I forget that. Like, some people show up a lady. Like, what? Guys, he called, no, he called me. That was out of the blue. That was me, that's an original thought here I had, not from someone in a tacitus. Also, a hysterical part about that is,

you know what's not an insult being Muslim, being gay or being a feminist, yeah. So, I, what is, is that most people's favorite? Is that why it's an obvious answer? I feel like outside of like, I mean, nowadays, of course, everyone's like the, I think at the time, at the time when the DCE was running, it was a very obvious answer. Really? Yeah.

I think at a time when it was running. Yeah. It was the least polarizing one. It's your favorite as well? I don't know if it counts, but I've said it way before he was even announced the suicide squad from James Gunn. Yeah, it might be my second favorite, honestly. Yeah.

I liked so many of them I really did I loved Aquaman too not Aquaman too I loved Aquaman also had to distinguish John what was your favorite of the DCEU

yeah golly I love Birds of Prey Birds of Prey I think when we ranked it was my favorite really yeah that movie did not do well and for other reasons I believe but it was

because woke but it was also because women because pandemic and it was right before the pandemic It was like right before I started. Yeah. I love that movie. But yeah.

But thank you, Celeste. I'm so excited that you're excited for the future of the DCU. Absolutely. And next we have Mason Correa. Thank you for joining in. Love you guys. And this movie so much wore Superman socks every day this week as free promo. Didn't change them once.

What character are you most excited to see again? Keep up the amazing work, you guys, including John. Of course, thank you. I appreciate it. who we want to see the most i mean i feel like your feet stink bro change your super socks uh i feel like everybody wants to see more hot girl right i want to see lois lane the most again uh more of uh i i'm very curious if he can pull off a stand-alone mr terrific movie or show yeah i think that would be really really cool mr terrific was the one i walked out wanting to see more of the

instant it ended i think i was surprised by the pairing of him and superman i was like i was like i would weirdly watch a movie that's like them paired up and I've never put that together. My introduction, Mr. Truffick, was era, so I didn't really know his backstory. But speaking of what you just said, John, there's a little, you know what, let me just go get it. What do you try to get? Stahl,

read the live chat, Roxy, why I go get this thingy here. Oh, look out now. This is the chaos part of the stream. Okay, oh, lights are falling. Action. It's all good. Oh, Shazam was, I really like Shazam also. The first one, again, not Shazam too. Shazam as well. Shouts out to David F. Sandberg. Let's see what you guys

thought was the favorite. It seems like there's actually a lot of shazams in here. Oh. Oh, does the Suicide Squad count? Because that might be... That's what Greg said. Going back to the... Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's what he said. It's either that or words of Frey to the previous. It's one of your birthday things. I had to return the other.

That is... But no, the other one should... Oh, my God. Speaking of socks. She's always talking about socks here. And I remember... I'm watching Boy Meach World. Please do not to start! I remember on Diary of a Real Reject, you pointing out, I was like, I didn't expect Boy Meets World answers here. Because Ryder Strong in my absolute obsession, I love Boy Meets World. I, like, I'm truly obsessed. Do you understand that, first of all, also, I like, these are the types of socks that I wear. You see, I'm a huge sock person. These are unreal.

Wait, I'm, guys. These are rendered in unreal. Thank you. I would hug you, but we're in awkward position right now. They will say the same thing. Yeah. These are so dope. Oh, my God. My sister's going to be so jealous. Good. That's like my thing. That was the goal. Cilling rivalry.

This is Alex Luther's team. When this boy meets well. And just going back to the calm. I'm so happy you like that, Roxy. Hopefully you like the other thing too. I was like, I was when you said speaking of and I was like, I didn't want to say socks. Then it gives a way that I got you socks. But with Mason just saying that comment, it makes me happy because honestly,

Um, I was a little, even though like Rotten Tomatoes is high, it's like, it's still in the 80s, I believe, like, critic or audience? Critic, I think it's like low 80s right now. I think it's a chill look. Um, audience score is still pretty high, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know what it's currently at. Are we talking this, this Superman? Um, yeah, but, you know, like when, like on our behind the scenes that I'll give is that we loved it so much, like you guys who saw our non-spoiler review out of the theater, like I started. tearing up in the first couple minutes and um thanks for clipping that out yeah i was like oh we're here

sorry no don't worry i was like silly still recover but the um but then immediately of course it was nothing but vitriol like that we mainly saw directed our way and so it was a lot of like i got avoid social media and i got too wrapped up in social media and and then going into this live stream it's like i've been taking a break from social media because i just just need to get away from some of the like negativity and so to be here like we coin i shot so many videos in advance before ever putting our opinion public because we wanted to nurture that love that we were feeling and honestly like part of the discourse has been really you know a shitty part of this and it's been kind of like getting to my mentality a little bit it's such a bummer bro it's

such a bummer yeah it does like take away a lot of the joy from it but seeing the amount of love that's been coming back in this live stream from you guys has been reinvigorating. So on a very personal level, beyond like super chats and all that shit, on the emotional side, a massive thank you to everyone who's been here to share the love. And if you don't like it, but you've been here and being respectful, that's also a thousand percent welcome. So just I want to say thank you for the bottom of my heart. Thank you. I think it's such a fair thing that you're bringing up because Greg, like we sometimes we just need to find our people. And sometimes when we post things on social, like our TikTok review blew up and, and, and, uh, or on Twitter.

We blew, I mean, we have like, uh, I think it's like almost a million views on Twitter on our, even though we've been posting on Twitter a lot, I'm kind of considering it's not having a Twitter. I know because they're, because the people there are so vicious. It's really wild. So it's weird. Like you can see the exact same post on Twitter for something for anything. And then I go to YouTube to see the exact same post and it's like completely different.

Different response. So, but, but, you know, we have. Last time I checked, it was like 800,000 people had seen our review on Twitter. And the comments were so vicious that I was like, how could this many people think this? Like, why are we being called slurs by this many people for liking a movie? I've only ever received this much hatred for liking something one other time in my life. And it's Lord of the Rings, which you know on this channel, it ruined the movies for me. Watching Lord of the Rings for Real Rejects is the first and only time that my experience ruined the movies for me.

I loved those movies so much and people were so upset with the way that I loved them that I was getting tortured online and it was so odd. So now when I think of Lord of the Rings when I was watching those, I had so much love for them. And in that moment, when I think about how destroyed I was, I feel so sad because it's just like the opposite of what the movies are supposed to. supposed to be about. Yeah. And that's how I felt was Superman as well. We went to see Superman, a movie about love and hope and teamwork and being part of something together.

And then having everybody being like, Jew, gay, like, whatever, like, all the name calling. And I was like, and you guys haven't even seen the movie yet because I know we know you hadn't seen the movie yet because we saw it early. So it was really disheartening. But I have to believe, Greg, that that's got to be less than. and 0.001% of people. I mean, I think especially Twitter, just the voice

and vibe of Twitter is specifically attracts, like everyone I know says Twitter is accessible. That's like the common phrase. And I think it's 100%. I mean, we see it in YouTube comments, of course, but there's Twitter especially is a different thing. But we also saw on our other socials too, I think, for this one. I kind of have, how do you guys feel

about this? I kind of don't believe that you should be allowed to be anonymous on the internet anymore. No, fascinating. I think, yeah, I mean, depending on what you're putting out, especially, it's weird. It's weird how it works. But you get less bothered, but I think you're better at it than me. Yeah, to me, it is so goofy.

Like, okay, so I just, you guys are calling me the F word, the slur, because I liked a movie. That's goofy. Yeah. What a weird take on that. It's bizarre. That's bizarre. That's bizarre. So, like, that's a you problem.

That's nothing to do with who I am. Yeah. Luckily, but I did feel bad for you because I was trying to get you to, like, collab on some stuff, and you were like, I am off of social right now. I'll download it for a second to collect. We got so much. John, you're not on social as much. Were you seeing this or no?

You mean just the general kind of viciousness of people attacking folks and stuff? To the three of us on Twitter. I haven't. I don't go on Twitter. I have almost no use personally for Twitter. I used to read Twitter obsessively, and it got to be way too much in. So, yeah, I haven't really seen much. Twitter's been the most helpful with, like,

keep it up today with video on demand and for the podcast for the news. Like, I weirdly, I find Twitter extremely reliable for that shit. Sure. It's still the, also the best. I'm trying to find a way to get on there without getting completely distracted immediately. But I do. Yeah, that's my problem. It's like, I go on there to, like, let me go to disgusting film.

And then immediately, I'm like, let me just look at this entire feed now. Yeah, after five minutes of scrolling. I'm like, oh, shit, what was I here to do? Yeah. Yeah, that's such a bummer, man. It is the best for promotion still because it's text with links. Sure, yeah. But yeah, it sucks there.

It sucks. We got 82% on Superman a 94 audience. That's amazing. That's amazing for weekend results, baby. I love to hear it. All right. Well, who we got next up here? We got next.

It's Keith. Good old Keith. Lois and Clark are great and all, but I want what Jimmy and Eve have. Love Story for the ages. Thanks, guys. and stood up. A little question here for the both of you. At the end of the movie,

when Eve wraps her legs around Jimmy and he smiles at her, is that Jimmy accepting, like, okay, I'm going to, like, give her a chance? I don't know. I think that she even surprised Jimmy. Like, I think that Jimmy has more admiration and respect for her after he realizes

that what she was doing was a little bit smart. So. And that was a... intentional what she was doing? I couldn't tell if like it was an accident. No, no, 100%. Okay. So it was intentional. I was like, all right. This is what I said to Coy before he started the stream. This is such a bummer, but I'm on social media so much that I knew what she was doing from the second we saw her take her for a selfie. When she had her phone, I was like, oh my God, she's recording shit. I know what she's doing. Like I literally clocked it. So, and that was

upsetting. I was like, oh my God, I can't believe my brain thinks that way. But I don't know whether he's accepting it, more just thinking like, I have to be true to my, what I said I would do. Okay. Spend the weekend with it. It almost felt like one of those things where it's like he isn't fully like connected with her. He's almost like I'm kind of humoring you I guess but then eventually like gives into it

mixed with like a little bit of obliviousness. Sure. She's dope. She's dope and she's a smoke show and like I think exactly what you're saying is accurate job. Jimmy doesn't seem like he 100% quite get like he gets that something is happening there and she wants this but I don't

feel like he fully is I don't know, yeah, he seems to have like a sprinkling of obliviousness and then is just good-natured enough to be like, yeah, I guess we'll go through with it. You see, like, when people talked about Clark not being like investigative reporter, totally fair of criticism, and I can see why you'd want that because that's a big part of Superman Clark Kent. I mean, I could do more of that. But I like that they gave Jimmy the time to do a lot of that, actually, instead of just Jimmy, you know, showing up taking photos or some shit. And economically speaking, like, that's a nice way of, yeah, taking out an element that people might expect. but using that redistribution of screen time to develop Jimmy to make the Daily Planet feel

a little more fleshed out and stuff like that. I'll trade gladly Clark at the planet for other people at the planet if it means they get to be characters. Or the movie could have been a little longer. Sure. That's what people are. I think for the first one they wanted to play it safe

with runtime. I think that they made the right choices and cut the right things. I honestly love this movie so much. I can't even describe it. But I don't think that could have caught other stuff to have more of him. If we were going to have more of Clark,

we would have had to add runtime. Definitely. And some plot. Yeah. Who's next up here, buddy? Thank you guys. Thank you guys again for the super chats and the stream labs as well. Also, to Boston stand up.

I hope you mean Boston brand, a.k.a. Dead man. Great DC character. Celeste Marie is back. Bye, by John. I will run the clock here all day if we have to. So when you have to leave Roxy, you just let us, no. We'll see how it goes.

It's you and me, baby. All right, Celeste Marie. Honestly, I know it wasn't popular. but I enjoyed Brave New World. Thunderbolts is now my favorite Marvel movie. This is now my favorite Superman. And with Fantastic Foreign Peacemaker coming, superheroes are really back.

I really did. After watching Thunderbolts to bounce off this comment, after watching Thunderbolts, I'm like, wow, we're in a good year for comic book movies. I also like Brave New World. I know you do. Yeah.

And when I say that, people are like, shell, liar, and it's like, I've gotten so much more disdain for having liked it then I would have if I just went with everybody else and said I didn't like it that much. I just did. I did like it. Yeah. I didn't like it as much as I liked Thunderbolts, but I liked it.

And I didn't like Thunderbolts as much as I like Superman. I like the Marvel. Well, what I love is how like Thunder, what I love with Thunderbolts is how it took a swing to be something very different than what Marvel's usually doing. And the sensibilities that the psychology just really are, like, it was the one movie I think in my entire life where people actually came to me They were like, hey, I'm actually okay with you skipping the theaters for this one

because I feel like you'd have good commentary on the reaction. And I was like, I see why people said that to me because it totally speaks to like things I'm passionate about. And then to get Superman, which is completely different than Thunderbolts and very different than what the DC's universes have been doing in the past like decade or so. I was like, wow, it's really cool that we're getting like good stuff that's very different. Absolute Fon. I couldn't have said it better.

Myself, Samir. Thank you so much. Proud of you and Greg. Proud of you, Greg and John, for your growth. And not you, Roxy. To hell with you. And Coy was here at the time when this super chat came in, so screw you. No character.

Coy's the center of the thumbnail now, and he's not here. You're the start of it. You guys are the start of it. I think it's really sweet. You're the nucleus, I suppose. We're the Starsky and Hutch. I mean, I'm pretty proud of the way this live stream's been going. Honestly, like we've had a single shot live stream for so long.

Now to have multiple cams, like, oh, my God, dream come true. we finally fucking did it. This has been great. And, you know, this has given me opportunities midstream to be like, okay, now I can really examine the colors. Yeah. I can really, like, mess with the timing

of the audio, yeah. Who do we got next up here, buddy? These are going to be even crazier from now on. All right, let's see. We got Gunther Das Hunter. Thank you for joining in, and the rhymes. Isn't Lex Corp, like, corporation?

Isn't it Lex Corp? Yes, it's Luther Corp in this movie, right? Yeah. And you guys talked about that on one of the podcasts. didn't you, about how... Sometimes it's Lex Gore, sometimes it's Luther Corp. Yeah. Not core, corp.

Because you're Green Lantern coring right now. Right, right. Lex Corp. I think that's why he peed. He did peeed. He peed all over. I had... The thought that I had... I actually said something that I heard James Gunn

actually say it later. It was that I felt like they called this one Luther Corp because it was an indication of like family legacy, and We don't hear anything about his dad in this movie, but his dad is a big part of his identity and why he is the way he is.

And so I thought it was like a smarter choice to call Luther Corp when usually it's Lex Corp. And then James Gunn actually said that is why he went with that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I'll read this next one so you don't have to, John. Hey.

We're good. Stop moving it quick. I'm going to the top. You got us the post. I'm in love with John. If he's not married, tell him to reply. to my DM. Also, haven't seen Superman yet, but I don't mind being spoiled. Thanks guys. Wow. Thank you to U.S. goddess. You got us. I've said it for years. The

ladies love John here. Is it the poet or the post? Poet. Oh, no, absolutely. I mean, that was poetry to my ears and we're married now, actually. Oh. As a matter of fact, this is a binding legal contract. I'm sure my lady companion is going to love this. How many sheep are you offering on the table? Oh, man, I got a whole flock of them. She'll be part of your harem. That's right. That's right, actually. I'm absolutely open to having a harem, so we can work that out.

I'll be in the DMs forthwith. A harem sounds exhausting. It does. Could you have a harem of men? Is there a harem and men? Is there a word, different word for that? Greg, I can't have a man. Yeah, man.

It just sounds like too much work. A harem. That's too much. A different word. Is there a, is there a harem of? men. What we got? While a harem specifically refers to a group of women associated with one man,

there isn't a single universally except a term for a group of men associated with one man. In anime and manga, the term reverse harem is used to describe the scenario. Other terms like male harem or gai-ku herm are also you sometimes use. That's really crazy. It's a woman who's getting pregnant by a bunch of different men. So what's going on. Man, that's crazy. Okay.

Thank you for marrying me, though. I'm very excited. Yeah. Now that we're here, Roxy's now on the mode of like, let's keep this going. Well, yeah, like answering the questions,

I don't want to miss out on too many, but also... All right. Yeah, we're running. Long John Spears, thank you for jumping. I think you jumped in earlier, so thank you again.

Do y'all think there could be more to his parents' message that recontextualizes the whole thing, bombshell reveal for the sequel? It's like that Simpson where they keep blowing the dust off the book and it's like, how to cook four humans,

how to cook 40 humans. But, you know, I wonder, I mean, the tape and the legitimacy of what Lex unearths from the rest of it seems already up to debate, does it seem like there's any more to that message, like, that they only got so far and they stopped? I mean, we already spoke about this at length, so I'm interested more in your opinion on this, John. I don't know if there could be more following, but we talked about possibly, like, bizarro situation, or if Mr. Triffick was what? and it was not coded correctly and it was like a fib. What are you hoping for? See, that's the wrinkle

partly because Mr. Terrific left such an impression and I believe in the efficacy and legitimacy of his ability. I don't know. I think it's a good question to have, and I think it potentially sets up a possibility to tell a story

about what happens when your parents are somewhat role models and maybe somewhat not role models and how do you grapple with that? Superman, I feel like we often associate Jorrell and, you know, the legacy as being this purely benevolent thing. But maybe if the tape is legitimate, if their message is, like, you need to come in and lead these people and subjugate them and all that stuff. I think it would be an interesting thing for him to grapple with as a character. Like, this is where I come from.

It just plays more into the nature, nurture debate. And I think his choosing Ma and Paw Kent solidifies, like, I'm not worried that, like, oh, dang, if they get more out of this tape, it's going to change. who he is. But I mean, certainly it seems like something we can come back to and keep going with to at least some extent in a sequel, if not longer. What I like is the way it's delivered seems like they don't feel like they're saying something evil or bad. They seem like they're saying it in a way that's, no, this is how you're going to help humanity. This is how you're going to help Earth be better and not not control or be an authoritarian yeah not not rule yeah yeah yeah no this is like no here's how

you're going to help yeah this is what it's going to be like in this place and here's your ability because of that yeah yeah but it would be kind of cool to get a little bit of like krypton history maybe in supergirl woman tomorrow is it maybe brought up maybe they will like kind of flesh out a little bit more of like the philosophies behind it have you seen the show invincible no i don't do a lot of animated shows invincible is one that i would highly recommend but there's a i like sky balance that's who yeah well for those who are familiar with invincible i'm like what if like the krypton depictions a little bit more like viltrum is what i'm saying probably not but that's a little bit where i'm saying what do we got next year all right samir is back also i love superman and its messages

thanks samir thanks samir thank you for the super chat my friend oh my god and your profile pick is james gunn and zack snider together looking happy unity unite the league and uh comment if you saw that family guy bit. Diego Gerva. Back again. That's right. It is Rick and Marty. I'm with you. I got you.

God. All right. Diego Gavera, thank you for jumping in both sides of the generosity stream here. Yeah, I'm going to need Battenson

with Corrin Sweat. I don't care. I don't care. That would be pretty crazy. The tones, I would be fascinated to see Clash, but it would be really fun to see those two actors.

Do you think there's a world Rick work? Oh, yeah. I do think there's a world that it could work. I don't think it is what they're going to do, and it's not what I want them to do, but I do think that it could. I think that they could make any tones work. They're different cities, different characters, so the tonal thing doesn't want me.

How about you? I heard a common theory I hear of the way they could fold it in is that Superman takes place actually a little bit later than the Batman's, then the stories the Batman is telling. so then you could just have Robert Patton's. You could still do Robert Patton's Batman, but he could play like a slightly older version. But then I'm like, you can't fold that in until probably after your trilogy is done, which seems like it would take 20 years

to do this trilogy based off of that. So not to have a Batman until then. Yeah, it would be a very long time. But no, I don't, I could see it working. And honestly, if James Gunn announced, I figured it out. I'd be very excited, I'd be apprehensive,

but I would also be like, ooh, let's go. I'm hoping, but yeah, I don't know. Seems like it would be a swing, but it would be an exciting. I don't think anyone would be like, don't do it. There's a lot of people, John. That's actually, but I think it would be an interesting prospect to watch them take the risk. I just hope it. I think it would actually sacrifice the quality of the Batman movies.

I've been saying this from day one, but Brendan Sklinar is my next Batman. I just think that he is who they should cast. I think he fits perfectly into this universe. I think that he is an absolute beast of an actor. I think he is Batman. I think he is Bruce Wayne, so that's what I'm holding out hope for. Love to hear it.

All right. You know what else I love to hear is a super chat from Always Remember back in the chat. If they let me feel the idea of hope emerge automatically from the narrative and put more serious tone

with brightness, like Man of Steel did, it'd be more of a banger, sigh. Maybe gun cultists were right. I'm just one of the Snyder cultists. No, man. I don't, not everyone who doesn't like this movie is a scary Snyder occult person. Yeah, you're allowed to like those.

Those are allowed to be your favorites. Yeah. 100% what they're saying. And I actually really, really respect you for keeping things so respectful. But I do disagree with everything that you say. The brightness of Manistito. There are some scenes in daylight. No, he's saying put more seriousness with brightness like Matt.

Oh, yeah, okay. I didn't find that to be. I think he's saying like scenes that took place during the day. The daytime, yeah. There are some scenes on the farm. Yeah, I guess there are some outdoors. They do fight in the daylight once. The Smallville fight, the flight, the first flight.

You are not a Snyder cultist. I think you just like the movies. That's awesome. And I'm bummed you didn't like this for you because I always wanted me to like that. I feel like if you were a Snyder cultist, you would be behaving differently while saying similar things. We know what Snyder cultist sound. like and this is coming from people who really loved like Zach Snyder's

Justice League yeah yeah and I really like Zach Snyder in general he is a doll so anyway yeah good dude loves creatine all right thank you always remember for being so genial NLSFC

96 when Malik gets shot and a single tear rolls down Superman's cheek was so moving and shows how much he cares So was it Molly or Malik? I'm going to go to install IMDB chat.

I trust you guys, but... But agree. That was so moving. I thought that was so moving. I was so upsetting. The marketing around this movie has been really smart because they showed that scene and the... Remember, that was such a highlighted thing from a lot of people like, oh, this person helping Superman up in the marketing. And then it happens so early in the movie.

And I didn't find it as impactful as I thought it would. Like, I liked the moment. but I wasn't like impacted by it. Because you didn't know there would be payoff for it. And then suddenly, because I thought that scene would come in way later in the movie when like things are so dire, as opposed to right at the beginning. And then to have that scene happen to bring a tragedy element to it all because Superman saved this guy and now Lex is punishing him. I thought it was a really smart way to heighten. That's when I was really like, man, this Lex guy is evil.

Even the way he responds to it. I didn't think this is what happened so soon. And neither did I as an audience member. I was like, oh, shit, he got like shot on the, you got shot like the second or third time. It happened so fast. Totally. Yeah.

That scene in general really struck me. What was the answer, John? The answer is that everyone's correct. The character is credited on IMDB as Malik, Molly, Ali. Malik, Molly, Ali, okay. Yeah, sort of crash them two together. Thank you, NLSFC. LT Productions is next.

Thank you for chiming in. Clark watching footage of his parents while I'm a punk rocker by the Teddy Bears played is my favorite Superman moment ever now, perfect ending. I thought that song was perfectly used. Yeah, and I mean, as James Gunn has described it, it's more of a score movie than a soundtrack movie, but the soundtrack elements still felt like nicely chosen, well done, you know, striking. Well, like to use a song that he grew up on. Like that's some of my favorite charming parts about James Gunn's writing is when he's,

able to have moments like talking about punk rock in bands that might sound like little character nuances or something kind of funny but then to have like a really big emotional moment come in from something that we thought was just going to be a part of one little scene i think is really strong and and a great way to because i don't feel like anyone sees something like that coming and uh that's some of my favorite parts of he does that a lot with his movies he can surprise you that way true enough absolutely agree we'll love to watch super again one of these days um a nurse unit oh Oh, it's a very different kind of movie. It's a very different kind of movie.

It's a dark movie. It's, yeah, but it's fascinating. Robert Pruiser, thank you so much for chiming in. And for the Roxy birthday wish. Happy early birthday, Roxy. Thank you. You love to hear it. The Luther Monkeys slash media manipulation is so relevant to today.

It's sad. Facts, dude. That ending scene with the home footage definitely had me teared up. Love the ending song. I am deaf, a punk rocker. Punk rocker is what we like to hear. Hell yeah, you are. You are a punk rocker.

Everyone in here is a punk. Unless you're... Thanks, Robert. Thank you so much, Robert. Robert, you're here like almost every single live stream. Really appreciate you, buddy. Thank you. Hell yeah.

Alexander. Oh, my God. A big one. Thank you. Alexander. You know what? Just due to the time, John, I think in the next five minutes,

we should disable people being able to... submit super chats. So if everyone wants to contribute a super chat, thank you. More than welcome. But yeah, we're going to disable the ability to do that in the next five minutes. Stop watching for five minutes. Okay, so Alexander Rivera, thank you so much for. Generous one.

Damning in, absolutely. Alexander says, I loved it, and I felt good energy in my theater. There was multiple people dying, there was multiple people dying. Multiple people dying laughing throughout the whole movie, even better walking out of the theater overhearing a group of people excited saying that they absolutely loved it. It felt amazing.

And yeah, like the, I mean, I haven't gotten to see it again yet. And I have, I'm really excited to take the time and I hope it can be this weekend to just be among the people. Yeah, me too. To be among the energy. Because it does feel like for as much ugliness

is there is out on the further reaches of the internet, it does feel like at the moment, this is a moment. And like, everyone's like, There was a Superman movie coming out as good as I gotta go see it. And like the excitement and the enthusiasm is palpable in a way it hasn't been in a minute. I really thought because of the social media experiences that the audience score was going to be like significantly lower. And it's been really high.

It's the highest DC. It stayed it stayed high this whole time. And so I'm so happy to hear that you had that. I don't know where you're from, Alexander, but I'd love to also know where you're from because it's always cool to hear like when it's like Michigan or some random little state that's like embracing it so much. because I was like, are we just in some weird film bubble that loves this or, like, people loving it, you know? Delaware loves Superman. Yeah, I have my close friends who lives in Utah. I was so worried he wasn't going to like it.

He was like, I don't have a single problem. I loved it. I loved it so much so much. I was like, oh, thank God. People do love this movie and we're not crazy. Hell yeah. So thank you, Alexander. Absolutely.

All right. Luca, you're up next. Thank you so much for chiming in. How do you feel about now Supergirl's entrance? I know Greg wasn't feeling it initially. since she was not sad looking, but I agreed with Coy that marketing wise... That is what I said, yeah.

She's not depressed enough. She's not dower enough. But I agreed with Coy that marketing-wise, no one is excited about a sad drunk girl. What he's getting at is in the Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow comic, right when you see her drunk, you get an instant sense like, oh, this woman's in so much pain, actually.

And I didn't quite pick up on that when I watched it. It seemed like someone... That is not what they were going for here. I'm not saying it's not what they are going to be going for But I don't think they wanted you to spend time feeling bad for this girl Yeah, I think in the instant of I think a Supergirl woman with Tomorrow That is a massive part of her character though

And it might be with this Supergirl Yeah, yeah Just I don't think it would have distracted from this movie, I think And would uh, probably yeah Would you forget John did you you you like the entrance right? Yeah, yeah no I mean I like it's brief But uh I like it as a suburbia version of what you might expect if you don't know the character very well.

And just that brief, you know, Millie Alcock flavor that we get was a nice burst of new energy that got me excited for the future in a way that is slightly different from like a Marvel thing because obviously we've gotten to the point with Marvel where it's like, you don't know if what they're teasing you with is going to happen, whereas this is happening for sure. And it's like, cool. I get my little like, here's a tease of the next thing, but it doesn't feel like. like we just stopped to do a trailer.

I was really into it. Love it. Love to hear. Absolutely. Thanks for the, thanks for the super chat. Absolutely. And Sean Holland,

thank you so much for chiming in. You look very lovely in your profile pick here. My theater clapped at the end of the film. It was beautiful. I love seeing humanity and hope in a theater. Seven and a half out of ten for the film. By the way, y'all rock. Thank you, Sean.

Y'all punk rock. Honestly, I love, you have no clue how much this is. actually affecting my heart. That's the amount of people who are like, my theater loved this. Like that makes me so fucking happy because I was so worried

after experiencing this week. So thank you for sharing that. Sincerely, thank you. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much, Sean. And let's move on to Rock's reviews and reactions. Go check them out. I may be alone, but wish we got the Batfleck movie. Same.

Oh, yeah. I think we all could agree that a Batflex movie would have been sick. Boston I mean I love him so much make the town with Bruce Wayne no no I'm not saying

that obviously I'm just saying like I love Ben Affleck I love Ben Affleck I loved his Batman I thought he did such an amazing job I would have loved to see this I would love to see it before BBS

oh yeah I mean it is one of the biggest like oh what could have been because I like I love the Batman Robert Patton but it is it is something that we're all like that's perfect yeah Ben Affleck

direct a unique thing to the actor direct the Batman movie who's playing Batman. It just seemed like a perfect marriage. And yeah, it's really sad that we never got that. Absolutely. We were in mourning. And I mean, for especially too, how he has expressed some of his reservations and regrets about how things have gone. Yeah. You know, I'm like, damn, that could have been a more positive experience for him.

But anyway, he found it in the flash. So there's that. Alexander Rivera is back. Thank you so much for multiple generosities here. Superman Saving the Squirrel was adorable. And that's a great, like, I feel like every one of us touched on that moment at some point or, you know, highlighted that as a lovely thing. A lot of people say, like, that scene, I've heard this so many times.

Like, that whole scene is just a direct response to Zach Snyder. And I'm like, if you choose to see it that way, I think it's, I think it's so within the character of what the Justice Gang is doing the exact opposite approach of what Superman's approach is. and it's telling of Superman's characterizations. And so I don't feel like... It actually really reminded me of the Wonder Woman moment

where she sees the baby. It's like, it's a baby. And it's like, it's just showing you like what somebody's soul looks like. Yeah, it's, it's character telling. It's not, it's not, it's not an effute as X Snyder or something. Well, no, I think if anything, it's just, it's mainly, if it's confronting anything,

it's just the idea that the Snyder way is the way. And, like, saving, everyone goes to like, oh, he's saving cats from trees. super corny and I'm like this is a way A to do that without specifically doing that one scenario so you're like oh yes Superman cares for all living beings and I think yeah it's just a rebuttal of

like you the idea that you can't have that and also be cool or have drama or badass stuff or whatever. True but yes thank you Alexander and we got Frankie Antoniachi. Get an Italian name there. Hell yeah

I love y'all so much just started watching this year. Welcome Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks, Frank. This movie. Oh, only seven months. Wow. That's almost a baby.

This movie is perfect and redeemed Superman. David feels so pure and natural in this role. What were your favorite moments from him? Also, Koi, thank you for pushing the comic agenda. We'll make sure he gets that message. He's crying a single tier right now.

Yeah, what were your favorite moments from David Kornswait? I mean, I've talked about it extensively. It is the lowest exchange scene when he says like when she's saying like you see the beauty and everyone and he says maybe that's being punk rock like that moment like really

and at the premiere too when we saw it the crowd was relatively quiet for most of the movie and then I heard the whole like so much of the crowd after he said that go oh like oh that's a poignant that you hear an audible

like you're like some personal development auditorium all of a sudden and hearing some bush and with wisdom through something like oh wow yeah that's a that's a cool thought i can apply that to my life do you have a favorite moment from cornswit it's i i want to list six and i'm not sure that i like even feel comfortable ranking one over the other um that moment for sure is top for me greg the human speech moment um him like trying to push through the kryptonite with metamorpho is a huge moment um uh the squirrel moment it sounds small but that was just like a

oh my god that is so Superman even the cracks on the building like him trying to justify I know that there was a little joke but like he's just always trying to spare people's feelings and thoughts too oh yeah that post-credit seems oh brilliant moment that was so funny yeah so like I

don't have a favorite moment I love I think David was so perfect every moment he was in the role I just thought was him lifting the baby like I loved that moment where he was just unwilling to let go of this baby like above him just brilliant brilliant

brilliant brilliant I mean the one the one last thing I'll add to that is like when he actually barges into Lex's room and he's like where's the dog is the whole time he's just like fucking crypto in that movie you see like I really care about this dog I love this dog and then to end it with the mid credit scene

where they're just looking at the moon and crypto hugs him and then like even on the one of my favorite moments too was when crypto's laying on his chest and his room like the crypto really is his home you know and like little I did not feel that way with what i feel like this was like the squirrel situation kind of i think he's super annoyed with crypto i don't think that this is because crypto is his favorite and he loves him so much i think

this is that dog is out there alone he's he's even says at some point like i don't even know if i like the dog that he's not a very good dog he's not very good dog i think it's a familial thing it's like yeah this this this dog drives me up the wall 90% of the time but he's my family and i love him Yeah, that's more what I would say. I feel like it's a dog and he needs my help. That was how I felt about crypto. There's that in there too. Yeah, I mean.

I hear what you guys are saying totally. But for me, why I thought it was so beautiful was just because we don't see them like as a besties. This is all so good. We see crypto be kind of like a crappy dog to him. And still he's like, but the dogs alone and needs my help. And it matches that quality of like clearly you have an association with this dog, but it's not your dog. So it's like you tolerate this dog for your cousin, you know, kind of. Well, I think he starts partnering up with him too in the Ultraman fight.

Like he relies on him and whistles him in. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Like, totally. I'm not saying he hates the dog. He doesn't want to save the dog, all right? But he does because people are watching. Fair enough, fair enough.

Oh, we got a couple familiar people here. But yeah, take it away, John. Mike Joyce is here. Thank you, Mike, for China. Time and in. Love to see you. Rachel Brosnan. Brasnahan, how hard do we do that age, was fantastic as Lois. The only part of her character I didn't like was that she puts a disgusting amount of sugar in her. I did notice this. She does like a very sugary coffee. I love her talking about this in interviews, though, because... Oh, it's being brought up. Well, Lois notoriously is a smoker. It's part of like her stick or thing. And as a journalist, you know, and she talked about developing this. sugar addiction because what does she do when she's like on the go like constantly going

trying to figure it out whatever and she is a sugar addict that's why we see her put so much it's not like i'm distracted and i didn't notice she has a sugar uh like habit which i thought was interesting oh it's actual like personal character yeah like a vice yeah like a vice i like a choice i like it yeah me too all right respect i really love her in this movie man she's great she's my favorite part of the movie. Favorite part of the movie? Oh, you don't know? I didn't know she's a favorite part of movie.

I'm, like, completely obsessed with this Lois, yeah. I think she's amazing. I love Rachel Brosnahan so much. My favorite finale of the last probably 10 years is Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. I love Rachel Brosnahan. I just think she's absolutely brilliant when she was cast as this was the first time I've ever

been excited about Lois Lane as a character. Did you like her in Superman and Lois? I know, it's not fair comparison. That's a show. I think she did a really good job. Bitsy Tullick. Yeah. Betsy Tollick, Betsy. She's so good in the show.

But as all of the CW shows suffered from, there are so many episodes that they put her in situations that she does ultimately become very damsel-like. And that has been my least favorite quality of Lois's. Not that people don't need help sometimes because everybody needs help sometimes. But I think that the actress did an amazing job, and I like the character significantly better

than I liked the DCEU Lois, but it still wasn't like this for me. I'm seeing a lot of, like, women really connect with this version of Lois a lot, too. Like, even at the Junkett, there was all these pop figures that they're like, you can only take one. So I called Olivia. I was like, we got Mr. Terrific Superman and everything. And she's like, do they have a Lois Lane? Like, I actually surprised me that even Olivia was like, I want the lowest lane one.

I just love her. I look up to her so much in this. I just, I like aspire to be like Lois. I walked out of the movie and more so than being like, I aspire to be like Superman. I was like, I really want to be like Lois. Well, and she has such conviction. I think that's part of what jumps off the screen for people is like Superman is a discovering it has conviction of his own but is discovering certain things of being tested in

different ways where she is like steadfast in a certain kind of conviction and a certain kind of just formidableity of spirit you know yeah that debate team is so brilliant it's like the most amazing scene that's probably my favorite scene I think it's mine too yeah I think it's mine too it's just so good doesn't have my favorite moment but it's my favorite scene yeah yeah also love that she's debating breaking up with him like you know very real yeah like is this working it is this the right match for me you know like just because he's all these things i just yeah could i do better no i don't i don't think of that and then and also oh god no we're going tense about her for so long like i didn't notice it until the second viewing because she is dating superman she's very aware of

right but when she finally meets like the parents for the first time and she's just looking at clark laying in his bed you see this like look and she's looking around the room and she's smiling him like oh she really sees like who he i feel like in that moment yeah i feel like in that moment she That was when she really solidified her feelings. Such a shift. Yeah, loved that. That was a beautiful moment. Beautiful.

Yeah. I'm glad we took time. We haven't talked about Lois much, so I'm glad we took time to have a little tangent about her. Absolutely. Thank you so much, Mike. And, hey, my wife is back. You got us the poet.

Thank you for jumping in the chat once again. I've seen some disrespectful comments toward O.G. Christopher Reeve. Do you think people need to be a certain age to appreciate or care about the 1978 Superman? soups no I think it comes down to individual not really age or something I don't think you have to be I think it is easier for the baseline association to be like oh that's the old you know fogey Superman and it's probably hokey and campy blah blah blah and I feel like people probably are I feel like potentially younger people who haven't grown up with it just being a fact of cinematic life are probably like I don't need to go back for that necessarily because it's again going to be dated or whatever sure Christopher Reeve was like a real-life Superman, and those people should watch his doc. Beautiful documentary. He's just such an unbelievable human, and he was such an unbelievable Superman that to the first part of this disrespectful comments towards O.G. Christopher Reeve, that's bizarre to me. What I don't like is that there's so many, Superman's like a bond character.

There's going to be so many iterations. There's going to be more after David Corns, but I don't feel like we have to tear down another Superman in order to lift up a current one or something like that. Just make sure, John, did we disable the ability for Mark to come in? They've been disabled for minutes. But we will finish off the rest in Roxy when every half the bounce you just left us now. Yeah, absolutely. But, I mean, you know, I would love to go back and rewatch that Superman because, I mean, he affected the comics, you know?

Like his vibe, his take on the character is iconic in its own right. So people should put respect on his name, except for Eminem, I guess. Moni, thank you for chiming in the chat. How did you guys feel about Superman's parents not sending him there to be benevolent, but instead rule over everyone. Did that take a second to adjust to or feel natural? Love what you guys do. And happy birthday, Roxy. Thank you so much, Moni. Appreciate you. Thank you. I feel bad because you've contributed, obviously, super show. So I'd love to, like, just unpack it. Yeah, I want to, like, bring something new, but I feel like we've really dissected

this, like, probably the most out of any subject here. Yeah. The only thing in the movie that is, like, kind of unresolved or, like, leaves me with questions of clarity. That's so weird. I was like, I was fine with it. I don't know whether to trust that this is the authentic message or that it hasn't been manipulated. I'm not sure. The one part. I think it's fair, John.

And I guess the one, okay, here's one thing I can contribute to this is that Jeremy John's is like capsule on the film and he said it in his review. It was like, there's no surprises in this movie. And I'm like, I feel like when this thing happened, everyone was like, what? Yeah, I was. I was shocked by that choice. I was. Again.

In a good way when it happened. Yeah, again, Jeremy John's. love, I watch his videos every fucking week. So that's not a slight against. Called out. I just do disagree with like, I feel like if there's a single surprise, it is that choice right there. Yeah, absolutely.

Wow. And who plays them in the first place? I remember striking, I remember an audible wave of like, whoa, what is Bradley Cooper? And this lady I recognize who's name like that. I know I've seen you and stuff. You know, do you know who that woman is who plays Laura? Yeah. Who is she?

She's from, um, uh, what's it? What's the show that I watch that, Westworld, I think. That's where she's from. I haven't looked at her up, but that's what it looked like. God, yeah. I know, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Damn, yeah, Rai.

I could not place it. Angela Seraf, Sarafihan. Did we skip? No. No, he's just saying the actress's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. He's like, no, that's pronounced Luca. Yeah.

It's okay. I can't read. It's not my first time. All righty. We got Monny. That's right. Okay. Next step is Luca.

Thank you for chiming in. Thank you, Luca. Do you think it being named Luther Corp that it can set us up with Lena Luther, maybe similar how she was in the show as an ally to Supergirl? I don't know much about Lena. Do you know much about her? Yeah, I do. Let's go, Roxanne.

Single angle on you. No, I think that this. It's an interesting question about it being called Luther Corp, and maybe that is an angle into Lena, who sometimes works with her brother, sometimes doesn't work with her brother. I think it's always more interesting, like in the Supergirl show,

where people judge you for who your family is, but that's not who you are. And we're already kind of seeing that with Lex, with his parents, sorry, with Superman with his parents. And it would be really interesting to see this version of Lena, who maybe she's in business with her brother, maybe she completely disagrees with him or maybe he's taken over their last name even and she

has changed her name or has really tried to distance herself from him because she doesn't feel the same way he does. But we did just get that version in Supergirls. So, but also we got Lena Luther on, what show was I just watching where Lena Luther is Harley Quinn, the animated series? Lena Luther is a big bad in this most recent season. Do you watch Harley Quinn? That's not the first season. Do you watch Harley Quinn? I have seen zero episodes Oh my god, guys, this show's awesome Yeah, I just didn't pick it back up

But I did love the first thing So we just saw her Evil as crap in Harley Quinn And we just saw her really good But like people questioning her and Supergirl I think they could go either way I mean I feel like Luther Corse is more indicative of the dad And I would love to see some of

I would actually love to see like if the dad's the around If not I would love to see more flashbacks with him Because that is such a big part of why Lex is the way he is You gotta start pronouncing that P are people going to shred you Or Or it creates more engagement. Dude, I heard the other day and then we'll move on because I always notice on Instagram when I go on

Nerdist always has typos in their little infographics. At first I thought like, oh, somebody doesn't know how to spell. And then I looked at the comments on one and everyone was talking about like, oh, yeah, this is a tried and true technique. It creates engagement people. And I was like, oh, damn. You know where it started? Starbucks.

That's why they all spell your name wrong when you go to get your drink because everybody started posting. I don't know if they're the originators, but that is like how people always reference as the OG, like everybody being like, look, they spelled my name wrong on my cup, advertising for Starbucks. We should get more things wrong.

Where they spell my name, R-O-C-S-I. Rock C. Speaking of, JM, very easy to spell. Only two letters. Loved SM. Wanted deleted scenes slash an extended release. Four hours.

release the gun cut i wonder how many extended deleted scenes there are that's a good question i feel like there's probably a lot really i feel the opposite i i feel like because the of what was at stake here and james gunn knowing like this has to be right and this has to be the start of a universe that there is probably like even at the premiere he he shouted someone out he's like sorry we cut your whole scene yeah i think deleted moments more i would guess you think you think that there's a lot of complete scenes that were cut? I don't feel like it's like a Snyder cut situation. But I can imagine

there's like honestly like 15 minutes really wow. Yeah yeah 15 minutes I thought you said 15 scenes 15 minutes maybe definitely there's a lot of moments that must have been cut but like full scenes it didn't feel that scattered to me. I don't know I don't know if they dropped a whole plot line like

what happened the BVS ultimate edition but I imagine that there's probably like 15 minutes Or like even an F1 we've been here no oh yeah people who got like entirely cut out of the movie. Like the girl from Bridgetton who like had a whole love story. Yeah. Yeah. I love that

movie. I saw it twice. I loved it too. Yeah. I loved it too. I loved it. Yeah. I had to go on a real universal I may. So you don't watch Bridgeton. No. There's one second where we see this girl from Bridgeton like literally as an audience member. And I was like what? And I turned to Jess next to me. I was like what? That's a huge

actor. It's like she's really. Yeah. And so then I looked it afterwards and like she was in the movie in the movie and just yeah. It sucks and shit. Like Shane Lane Woodley shot scenes for Amazing Spider-Man 2 as Mary Jane. It's happened to me before. Oh, yeah, very recent one, right? Yeah, it's a bummer.

Yeah. It's a bummer. Oh, justice for Roxanne. There's a lot of times they don't even give you a heads up. You know, you just kind of show up. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. And that happens.

It is a bummer, but, like, also they're doing it for the better men in the movie, I understand. Unfortunately. Yeah. This is a very fun question right here. Channel with no name wants to know. Thank you. Favorite Mighty Crabjoy's.

song. Also, kindness being the real punk rock sold me on this Superman. Oh, I'm so happy that line is resonating so much, yeah. Second favorite shirt of the shirts that we have. Your Mighty Crabjoy's song, well, that's an impossible to answer, right? Yeah. I guess by default

it has to be the Mighty Crabjoys theme. I think they're introduced, Mighty Crabjoys, I think is introduced in Creature Commandos. Yeah, someone's wearing their T-shirt. Yeah. Which I knew. I don't remember that. Because of my experiences with the show and not do to Google it. I did not.

I couldn't. I was trying to, when I was working on the shirt, I'm like, what is this band? I can't find this band. Oh, this is a made-up band.

Oh, that's hysterical. I think the last song or one of the songs that plays is they make a song for them in the movie, and I'm curious to know who the actual people are

who played on it. The only mighty that I know is mighty-mastones, so that's why I feel like it was a shout-out too with Mighty, but who the hell knows. That's the impression

that I get da-da-da-da-da oh I guess it was Foxy Shazam and Lulu Saffran so there you go cool all righty thank you for that let's see Monny's back again also are you guys reading any of the absolute comics coy has mentioned those

and they sound crazy if so which ones are you enjoying the most right now Absolute Flash and Wonder Woman are my favorites hope you guys have a great day not anything current right now I haven't sorry reading the absolute comics yet I have like a big Q you on the For you guys who don't know, I'm going to really plug a couple of apps right here.

Marvel Unlimited and DC Infinite. You love this. I can't do it, Greg. Why? I really can't read them digitally. Do you have iPad? No. I have to do it on my iPad.

Okay. Yeah. Oh, I would hate doing it on a phone. Yeah. I tried on my phone. I tried the phone and it sucks. It sucks. It sucks.

It sucks. Oh, that makes me way more sense. And I had an iPad for a year that I never turned on. And I was like, I have a reason now. And Olivia's reading books all the time. But it's part of, and so I got the idea from that. But yeah,

DC Infinite and Marvel Unlimited, it's a monthly or you pay annual and you get access to all these fucking, like thousands and thousands of comics from rich, every comic and all the absolutes as well. And yeah, it's like they zoom in on the panels or you can just read a full frame. And it really gives you, like I'm reading Kingdom come right now.

What do you mean they zoom in? Like without you clicking specifically? Like, you know, no, you have to like, so it moves, kind of like you know

on a full page there might be like multiple scenes and stuff so like zoom in on each part of the panel so you could read clear and it gets like a really crisp

iPads are like as expensive as computers dude you get a cheap ass iPad I got one that was like a couple hundred bucks really? Yeah I got an old iPad I didn't I wasn't like

gonna use it for something fancy I just want to read stuff maybe I should but yeah you should but seriously it's an easy way to get back into comics and to see the inspirations

and also I think DC is using more comic inspirations directly right now for their adaptations and so if you want to get like some of that novel to live action adaptation vibe I would totally recommend getting those apps these absolute comics look pretty sick though the Wonder Woman she's got like a massive sword it's all like heavy metal Viking style

like they seem like really cool takes Mr 47 thank you for stoke in the fire if they ever wanted to do injustice it would be heartbreaking to see this version of Superman become that evil and cheated. I don't think that's what we're doing. Do you know the injustice story? Yeah, a bit.

I mean, do you see Gunn doing that? I think as an else world, you could do that. I mean, they have, there's some popular comics where there's like else worlds of Superman going evil. You think they'll run that simultaneously? Maybe. I don't know. No, it depends on, it always depends on how reception is going.

And if they need to pivot their direction, I think, like, okay, so Henry Cavill was a tease of like a darker, more brooding Superman, and then Zach Snyder was setting up an injustice like Superman for the future. Which would have made perfect sense for that, for that, yeah. Yeah, it would be, but that makes sense for Henry Cavill, and it doesn't feel heartbreaking for Harry Cavill. this would have the effect that injustice would need to have if you did do corn sweat that would feel incredibly heartbreaking and you would feel like maybe there's a hope we can have you change you know so it would be actually more effective uh i think with with corn sweat in terms of that emotional resonance but anytime soon i don't think so at all i feel like it would be like a decade at minimum yeah yeah johnny what's next on the agenda here all righty let's see pardon j padron

salutes from miami guys love your content hell yeah Miami is one of my favorite cities in the world you've been to Miami yeah never been a hundred times I love Miami so much like shots cocaine yes hell yeah

I love Miami mustache's big scarface dexter we my like my great grandparents owned a hotel in a Miami and we did cocaine with your great gram. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I love Miami. You said jello shots off your

great grandma's belly. Yeah. What is wrong with you dude? That's what I think of what I think of Miami. So you clearly haven't been to Miami. I've never been in Miami. I just think of people like partying and I think of Scarface and Dexia. There's so, I mean, there's great parties, but it's so beautiful. Beaches, the Pumans, dancing, just, oh, Miami is the best. I, I, I, this is the first time I've ever felt like going. You You're the first person to make me feel like, yeah, I might actually be cool. I've only wanted to go to Florida for Disney World, but I've never been to Florida. Miami, way cooler than Orlando.

I love Disney World, though. Damn, I would love to go. But thank you. I love when people are not from California coming in this stream. I love the unity. Thank you. Thank you, and if we ever go to Miami, we will let you know. Miami rejects.

Let's go. Julian or Julian Guerrero, Guerrero. I found Paw Kent to be. be so heartwarming. Him being so vulnerable and emotional with Clark is so sweet. The dynamic between Ma and Paw Kent felt so real and lived in with such little time with them. I mean, you saying this comment, I think, is a really cool thing for where we're at with, like, what they try to promote, at least what I see online, with men being more, like, there's obviously a lot of stuff of like, men should be a lot of cry, men should be more vulnerable. And then having, like, this vulnerability of men is not demasculating.

And I know that there's a lot of people who try to pivot this Superman into being, look how demasculating it is and how weak it is, when really I feel like it's the exact opposite that if you are afraid to be vulnerable, then it means you're giving into fear. So you actually develop more strength when you are vulnerable, especially if you are afraid to be, it's a testament to strength, not weakness. I would absolutely agree with that. But Roxy thinks the men like that are pussies is what she says. That's right.

A bunch of little soy boys is what she shouts here. That is what I said. She wants angry, violent men. I want violence, man. But the way how society is making men is why she can't find a guy right now. It was just a bunch of panties. It was you dressed his homelander at that stage. Oh, thank you, Julian.

I'm really glad that that resonated with you, too. I feel like a lot of what people are bringing out of this are not like the typical thing you might expect. Andrew Saba Thank you Andrew Saba Yeah Superman worrying about not killing a giant

monster of those terrorizing thousands of innocent people is not heroic movie was overall light and fun but I need more

than that from my Superman and clearly you misunderstand the point of that moment I appreciate the consideration and the

respect but the idea is that and I think that's why I was smart to show him as a the kaju

as a baby first to be like this is not some like crazy monster this is a pawn this is an animal

who they have who doesn't belong in this environment and they put this animal in this environment so the animal doesn't deserve to just have some type of terrible death or be punished you know it's just an animal being an animal I agree with that but even more than that Lex is not that and he still doesn't want to punish Lex that's who Superman is to every this is what I walked away from this and I feel like this is the whole discussion about what government this is asking about war this is asking about whether this moment was okay whatever every life matters to Superman. Yeah. If it's living, it matters. Exactly. And that's like, it's clear as day. It's not confusing what his stance on life is. Yeah.

Like, it all matters to him, whether it's the squirrel or whether it's Lex, or whether it's the kaiju, or whether it is a baby that is a metamorphose baby, or whether it is, like, every single one of them, any person that's living or any alien that's living, he cares about. Yeah. You're talking about terrorizing thousands. Like Lex is literally destroying Metropolis. Yeah, yeah. One, two, I mean, if they hadn't shown you the creature in its infancy, I think you would have maybe more of an argument. But yeah, it has a very, that's an element of the plot that has like a doctor-hooishness to me about it.

I've got to stop this, but also like, I'm going to obliterate this thing. There's probably a mutual solution we could get to. Yeah. Yeah, but thank you, Andrew, for your insight. Reynaldo Torres Torres. Thank you. chiming in being so generous. We drove...

Rinaldo, do you have parents who's both last name with Torres and then hyphenated their last name so it was Torres, Torres? Let me know. Just curious. That would be awesome. Or maybe he took his wife's last name, which also happened to be Torres. In all regards, I hope some genetic tests were none.

That's so great. Anyway, Raynaldo, thank you for chimed in. We drove from Florida to Los Angeles with our seven-month-old after an eviction. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. It was tough, but my best friend gave us a place and watched the baby so we could finally see Superman.

Wow. It gave us hope. Did it also impact you guys personally? That's a really beautiful story. Damn, dude. I mean, I'm sorry for your predicament, because that sounds really tough to deal with and uprooting yourself and traveling across the country is not easy.

But that's, I mean, the fact that your friend was kind enough to do this and gave you the opportunity to go do something like nice for yourselves and something communal is kind of in the spirit of what the movie's getting at yeah you know those are the best artists do right they try to make things that make people forget about what's going on in their personal life and like think about what could be better and make you feel positive and happy and it's for

everybody like so i love the beach so much right like the anybody can enjoy like the beach is for everybody it's why i love movies so much it's for everybody right there's so few things in life that we get to all experience that make us feel good. Even when life is utter shit, evictions suck, my dude. I'm with the seventh model, too. Damn, that's a hard, dude. I got kicked out of my place during the pandemic,

and it was, like, an actual hell. And you're a kid, so it's, like, wondering what the hell you're going to do with your life, and then going to see Superman and feeling like they're good people. I'm happy you've got that, but sorry for what you're going through. Well, that's, I think an ideal thing is, like, yeah, movies do take us away from the details. of our lives for a little while or they can

but I think it's beautiful when you can get that but also come out with something you want to apply to your life you can escape but also get something out of it to bring to your life is a good point John yeah and I think that movie I've made it pretty clear many times it has had that effect on me

for sure sometimes I have to I have to check a lot of my natural tendencies these days you know and a movie this movie has made me more aware of that Pando P. Basketball Jones I got Ethan Jones So, babe. Oh, my God.

John, you getting my reference just now? Like. I had the space jam sound record. But come on now. That was so elite. Thought Ultraman, and thank you for your generosity, was an Earth three variant Lex found via wormholes.

And the evil pod message was his, technically real, which explains how it bypassed terrific by T-Crew. But I-KD, if that I don't know, I think, is what they're trying to. But I don't know if then Lex being a stalker and making a clone, L.O.L. But I don't know if that makes Lex a stalker making a clone. I think that they're just giving different options of what the message could be.

Sure. No, I mean, that would have been a fair theory, but no, I don't feel like they're going to try to undo what it was with this. Did you like the Ultraman element? Did you see that coming? What part coming? That it was a Superman clone. Oh, just the big twist reveal or that Ultraman was, because I was going to say the trailer we knew about Ultraman,

but who it was. Yeah. I thought it was cool because I like anything that kind of like makes us hold up a mirror to ourselves. One of the number one questions I was getting when we left was, is it Henry Cavill, which I do feel like is a little bit distracting that we don't know from the trailer. I don't think the trailer should have revealed who it was, but when you don't know who it is in the trailer, I feel like it allows people to have crazier thoughts on who it actually was.

But I think they made the right choice. And I like the way that they did it. And I think he did an amazing job. Were you surprised at all? I would say no. Were you? It's the one thing I was like, oh, it's probably like him or a clone. Yeah.

Yeah. Like that was one thing I saw coming. The second they walked into the like early on in Act 1 when they go into the Fortress Solitude, I'm like, Ultraman has to be a clone. Yeah. And in a movie like this, any time a character is prominently masked, you're like, I bet that's someone we know. Yeah, yeah, but that was the problem with everybody thinking that it might be. I do wish they did a little bit more with leaning into, like, because you're talking about the idea of like a mirror to yourself.

Yeah. I do wish they did something a little more thematic with that in terms of character for. Yeah, he didn't seem to care that much. It was more like, what the hell? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, cool twist, cool fight, but yeah, I wish it was narratively wise. I wish it is a little more. For sure, for sure.

Kevin, man, devil. Love it. Thank you for. Sorry, Coy. Coy, is not here. Coy, any clue what or who the character controlling, the fairy in the pocket the universe was seemed out of place. Roxy, rank your lowest lanes.

There we go. What was one scene you could have cut? Oh, wow. What a question. Sorry, Coy had to leave. He was the latest one and left early. I may change the time. Let's skip to Roxy's question, though. I don't know my, I mean, it's hard when you say rank your lowest lanes, which what you're talking about in terms of there's been so many animated Lois Lanes, and there's been a ton of live action Lois Lanes. Let's go with a couple, what are the three favorites, Lois Lanes? I notoriously hate this character, so. Oh, I didn't realize that you were trying to say.

earlier, is that you hate the character. It's like a huge issue for me. But she's your favorite character in this movie. Yeah, so giving you my top three. I would say that my favorite is obviously Rachel. After her probably is Bitsy Tollock. And then after that, I don't know my top. It's not fair because the actresses who have played her in past iterations,

especially early, early on iterations, it's nothing against them. They do exactly what the role is calling for. I don't like the way she's written, not the way she's performed. So, yeah, I guess. Coy's been a massive champion of Lois Lane, too, and he's echoed similar feelings to what you're talking about. I really feel like when they really dropped,

I think Amy Adams was like the biggest missed opportunity. Like Amy Adams was my least favorite Lois Lane that we've had. But again, I don't think because of her, I don't think it was her fault. Like I didn't like the way they wrote Lois Lane. I didn't like what happened with her. And I feel like they should have in a chemistry test. They should have.

That's a good point. And it didn't feel like that character was given anything that allowed her to, like, develop any kind of personality. Right. Like, imagine somebody being, like, that's my favorite character. You'd be like, what far? What details about her? I like that she figures out who Clark. I like the plot idea that she figures out who Clark is and is not naive to that.

Yeah, but then she also makes so many journalist choices that are, like, she's not figuring things. It's like, what? She feels very anonymous. Yeah. This movie is for being such a big actor, yeah. But I still think Amy Ann is one of our best actors of our generation. I love her. Yeah.

And the fact that we love her and that just did not work. But honestly, when she was cast, I didn't think that that was the right role for her. And Rachel Brosnahan and I did. Did you guys see Marvelous Ms. Maisel? I would like to. I am two episodes away from finishing murder bot. I fuck. Okay.

First four episodes are like okay and they're fun, but they're okay. Once you get to five, If you ever watch a Merlebot on Apple, oh my... Actually, John would love it, yeah. John would love it from beginning to end. My favorite Apple show right now, that was Stick. You would like the Bid episode.

That's on my cue you. Is it good? It's my favorite show on right now. Okay. Because my absolute favorite show on right now. I've been making... Nobody's listening to me, and I'm getting so annoyed with people.

It is the number one best show. My dad called me last night, and I was going to scream at him. But I don't scream at him ever. But he called me. He was just like, I just found this show called Stick. Have you ever heard of it? And I was like, you literally flew out here.

I literally sat you down and said You have to be watching this show I love Owen Wilson and it It's like the most unbelievable And I pitched him to It's like Ted Lassow vibes And he was like oh I don't remember that I was like god damn it

Nobody listens to me So it's like 25 to 30 minute episodes No they're longer but he Oh maybe 40 minute episodes Let me look It is like just the absolute I really do want to watch that show You are going to love it

I love Owen Wilson It's cool to see him do a show I'll give a heads up to people though that do you want to watch it because I didn't give a heads up to DJ and he was like a little bit upset that I didn't. For parents, it does,

it features something that could be a little difficult if you are a parent, especially a newer parent. So just as a heads up to some people. I feel like I know where you're going with this. By DJ, do you mean Dwayne John? Yes.

No, DJ Woldridge, my OSA co-host. How long are the episodes? In terms of what scene I think could be cut out. Uh, if anything, I feel like there should be scenes that could have been longer or you could have put a scene in, um, or tweaks. If anything, I would ask for a tweak. I actually wasn't a huge fan of both times I've seen it and I forgot about it on the first time when Lex is in Fortress of Solitude and he's very non-reactive to everything happening. I'm like, I understood it as a character choice, but it just didn't look real to me.

Like it just, it definitely feels like it filled it in and it didn't feel like Lex. Nicholas Holt had zero awareness about where any of that shit would be. That's tough. I hear you on that. Yeah. So I think something about that one moment, both times I watched it. I'm like, I don't know what it is about this. One moment.

It just doesn't feel real. It didn't happen very quick, too. Yeah. The first episode is 45 minutes, then some are 35, then summer 28. It's one of those shows that just kind of makes up its own time. Just whatever the episode needs to be. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, because murder bod, they're all like 25 minutes long.

Yeah, I mean, some of them feel shorter than that. That show flies. Yeah. I love the, I mean. I mean, I've only got two episodes left, but after episode five, I was like, wow, this is addicting. Shout out of David Dalsmachi, and he is in everything, yeah. He's so good.

Sadduss Malchusantz. And I do feel like... I was in a movie with him, too. Which one? That's the method. Same one that I'm in with Dean King. Oh, fuck, yeah, Dean King. Shout out of Dean Kane, y'all.

I feel like Alexander's... I didn't shoot with either of them. Scarsguards, either one of them would be great in the DC universe in some way. I don't know what, but I think they're very different. Peter Sarsgard. Yeah. I've never seen somebody play. robot as well as he is he's

phenomenal i think alexander's scars guard is really overlooked for how talented he's so good like a lot of people kind of look at like his brother as the one with the acting stuff and alexander's like the the buffalo good no he is an amazing actor they're both very good and they're both good looking too

we should make them fight to the death uh thank you for the insights anyway side tangent about apple tv his car's guard channel with no name also thank you This film did something. No comic book movie has done.

My niece loved the film more than me and got her wanting to read Superman comics to see how it was compared to the film. That's beautiful. That's the goal. I'm so curious how old your niece is. My one main concern for this is that I understand that Gunn does not want to do an origin story.

He said, not for this, not for Batman. He's just not interested in it. But if this was my first ever experience with Superman, I didn't have one bit of knowledge. I've never heard of these characters. because I didn't know anything about them. I don't think I would have been as invested in the movie. That's fair.

Yeah. Yeah, they, like, they lace in just, like, quick text and a couple, like, the Kryptonian of how he's, uh, this weakness is kryptonite. It's, like, so brief. Right. Uh, so, yeah, I have had that thought, too. Um, or am I making you interested to see. But it's PG-13, so really, like, that means that most people are going to be older watching

this, not five years old. I mean, but there's some movies where it's like, I know, so many people, I remember when the dark night came out, I was talking to so many people who never saw Batman Begins, but loved the Dark Night. And that was the first one they saw. Terminator 2 was a common one too for a lot of people. I don't feel like Batman, but Batman's a human who's born here who I don't think it's easier to latch on to. Or maybe to understand like there's some things about Superman that might be relevant. I don't know. It's hard to not know what you already know, you know, like I can't put myself in the space of like, what if I didn't know that

that usually Jorrell says the other thing. Like, would that have impacted me as much? Maybe. It's a good question. I'm glad it got your niece interested in the comics, though. I hope she keeps with them. Yeah, it's had that effect on me, too. Normally, I'm like a research for comics,

and then I watch the movie, then I don't really go in, but I'm like, I'm reading even more now. That's cool. Yeah, beautiful. All right, we got Spidey Sensei. That's a cool name. 72.

Coy is not here. I love Spidey. Why is Lex going to Bell Rev? Isn't that where they send villains with meta abilities? It's so weird. I've always pronounced this Bel-Reeve. You know, when you say something in your own head and then just hearing you say that, I don't know.

I think it could be. It's because of the French of it all, I think you can kind of go either way. Yeah, depending on your accent. Like, how do you guys say Falcone? Do you say Falcone? I say Falcone. Exactly, John.

I say Falcone. Yeah, just whatever you read. maybe it's a form of punishment too of putting amongst the people that he absolutely hates and Batman v Superman he gets in prison in Arkham for some reason you know I think it makes perfect sense though if you take somebody who is has that kind of power and ability even though like even though he's yeah why it's probably it's also like the ultimate prison for someone he's he's got a genius intellect and I think the movie demonstrates that he's the one who opens the pocket dimension He has a genius intellect

And I think you want to keep someone like that Under the best kind of security as well I feel like you can be chalked up Something as simple as that honestly Yeah same I don't know we're just trying to feel in for coy Because of course I'm trying to be coy I'm trying to remember iterations in which they've done that

But I think it didn't strike me as weird Well and it makes you wonder How many of these other institutions Are we going to see? Is this just going to be like the main Supermax prison for any world scale villain of any kind or, you know, it's still the universe is still

in the process of laying out its rules and how these familiar things work. So it might not even be that it's only metahumans here. It just might be a section for metahumans. Yeah, there's a wing, the M-Wing. Jonah Sorensen, thank you for chiming in. You look so affable in your profile

pick. Love you guys. Love you. I know we're talking the movie, but I actually want to hear Greg and Coy's thoughts or perhaps just Greg thoughts on Superman comics they've been reading All Star, Birth, Right, thanks for all you guys do. I think there's been enough of Coy's opinions across

the entire internet for you to get his, but Greg. Yeah, what are you reading right now? I am reading from Jeff John's Superman Brainiac. It's not the origin of Brainiac. It's not the origin. There's already, like, Supergirls established him and Lois are together. You like Jeff Johns?

I haven't read too much Jeff Johns, actually. But he liked Spear hit a lot of DC TV, didn't he? And so it makes sense why that felt so comic. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right, Burlanti, Gregorlanti. That comic actually inspired the Brainiac, the Superman Unbound movie that we just watched. Oh, really? Yeah, okay. That comic.

I'm really, I'm really enjoying that. I would say my favorite one is Birthright. That covers like his origin, and that was the first one that really made me feel like connected to him as like a human being. And that one really has a great Lexington. origin as well that does live into the past and it's a thing where lex temporarily lived in smallville and him and clark was he was clark was his only friend and like the so it makes the rivalry not even the rivalry but the the villain hero aspects to them incredibly personal and the state

like that that one out of all the superman comics i've read why i loved it so much it was such a page turner in a way that felt very cinematic and like i just wanted to keep It felt like I was in a movie. I felt like I could hear the sounds. Oh, that's cool. Whereas All-Star Superman is kind of like, heady, and I got to be a little smart what I'm reading it. You don't have to be smart for any of these,

but it is one of those. Like, I would say it to the same thing for a Super Bowl woman tomorrow. Like, I've got to activate my brain when I'm watching when I'm reading this. But I think the one with the most heart, and it is for all seasons. You see Superman from a bunch of different perspectives. And as much as like there's tonally things about this movie that feel akin to all-star Superman,

that's been the most referenced one, even from James Gunn himself, I feel like this comic is way more, this movie's way more akin in personality to for all seasons in terms of, that's the one where Superman felt the most like a human being where Clark and Superman are one and the same. The art style, too, I think is absolutely beautiful. I'm reading Kingdom Come right now, which takes place in the future with a Superman who's coming out of retirement. And that one actually deals a lot with like the immigration side of like the new meta-humans. are they push they're like enforcing against immigration anti-immigration yeah I think there's so many great amazing comics out there for Superman and so yeah I mean the top ones I would recommend though are all-star I would start with

birthright all-star Superman and then I would and for all I would do for all seasons weirdly that would be my order that I would do it in but yeah I think you just did Koi so proud really? He's somewhere like geeking out right now.

Sese Koi is shedding a single tear of joy. And Lex Luthor Man of Steel. If you want to get one that totally feels like this version of Lex, that's a great rendition, too. And you really do get into the,

like literally the monologing that he's giving in that, it sounds like straight out of there. Heck yeah. Got some good Rex, gang. Let's go. Calfani Ken Jenkins. Thank you for chiming in.

The population so drastically turning on him so fast. Pulled me out initially. Have you seen the world? Have you seen how quickly Have you seen when one thing gets out there? Have you lived in cancer culture? Yeah.

Like, have you seen the way the world is? Funny enough, I understand what you're saying. But if we did not live in the world we are in now in the past few years of how social media, one thing gets out there and everyone just flips a dime on, like right away, I would not have bought it this like five years ago. But the way the world is now, I'm like, there's a thousand percent what the world is now. media manipulation aspect, too, because

it's so ingrained in the movie. The whole point is like, we're working overtime and we're using, like, crazy means to literally create this outcome in the public, you know? But, I mean, maybe moving pacing-wise, it might have felt weird, too. Did it feel jarring to you? No, it felt so realistic.

Yeah. Yeah. We're on the same thing. We've got a couple, like, a few very generous super-telling. This is very unusual. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. We do not take for, like, from five bucks or $1, like we know that's a lot of money

for a lot of people. So thank you. So when we're sitting like 50, that's insane to us. Ed and Darry, baby. Let's go with that 50. Part one. Oh,

Jesus Christ, man. That's insane. I bought a physical version of Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow because of how passionately Koi talked about it way back in the initial DCU Slate reveal and it sat on my shelf

until I saw this movie and it moved me to finally read it. Amazing to hear. That's what we like to hear, part two. And it's amazing so far. That's good. Halfway through, and I can't wait for the adaptation next year, especially love how Bill Key, Evelie, illustrates Light.

It's a beautiful book. Love y'all. Happy Birthday Rocks, and I hope I got that name right. Thank you so much. Hell yeah. I have this issue with comic books. I know this is such a bad thing to say out loud, but the same thing that issue...

Too many pictures. but they're only for kids because they're picture books man you're the one person out here like this book doesn't have enough words no it's the same problem I have with movies you guys know I forget things so quickly

I've read so much and I forget so much because then things like start to blur together so I really need to reread and you just reminded me and Koi was so passionate and I was like oh yeah I got to re-pick this up and now I will again but for some reason why is it that television

I like can remember I was like Westwood Westworld or whatever but with comics and movies, the way that they are, I don't know what, they blur together the versions to me. I get that with, I've read so many comics, and I have forgotten 99% of it. It just reread All-Star Superman, as you know, and I was like, I don't remember any of this.

Like, none of it. It feels brand new to me every time I pick up a comic that I read before. That's crazy. I mean, a lot of comics in the past few years have been to be like, oh, this movie's coming out or something, so I should read it. so but it only comes in memory when there's a true emotional experience you have associated with it of course i remember some things that like whatever it is or things from when i was young like i read a lot of betty and bronica comic books archie comic books when i was young i loved archie comic books

and but what's really cool about what you're talking about aiden here is how in this with james can announce a slate reveal he he's specifically citing comics and it was it was refreshing to see because like as as marvel has been so influential in the movie sphere a weird hasn't been that influential in the comic book sphere like it was a big part of like the movies are doing great but yet the comic sales is the comic medium is still not as like prevailing or popular as it ought to be and just hearing about like so many of you guys coming in here and saying like I'm reading comics again my niece is reading comics I decided to buy a comic that is very cool like even this experience got me reading more comics and yeah supergirl woman of tomorrow just even on a visual level is some of the

best art i've ever seen and uh if you guys like cosmic revenge stories uh damn right it is it is an awesome it's an awesome time and i i i'm very excited at uh like lobo's not in the comic so i'm curious to see how they put lobo in the movie um but i could see how lobo could still fit into the movie but i'm i'm really happy you had that experience and and thank you for supporting us on this generous amen ad ad thank you all right john how do you feel about doing a little jam Jammin. Jammin. You don't have to be here for everyone.

I want to be here, but I want to hear all of them. Hey, do you want to make sure we give a little time to each one. Oh, of course. What's like a healthy time to give to each one? 30 to 60. That's what they are. All right. Sean Holland, here we go.

Lightning around. Forgot to say thank you to you for contributing. And happy birthday to Roxy. Thank you, Sean. Greg, you've allowed me to not be afraid to be vulnerable with my feelings. Oh, fuck, yeah. I love to hear that.

And to let out a good cry. Thank you. And Coy, who is no longer with us, never stopped being you. He's dead. Coy. Coy's parents took him out back and shot him.

All those D.P.C. jokes they had to go out to do a dead children's club. D.C. out back. That's a bad club to be a part of. That is a very bad club to be part of. Theodin, where you at?

anyway oh my god don't get me started but yes coy never stop being you your light is appreciated and I'm sure he appreciates hearing that okay my 30 seconds here the other thing that we were filming the other day when I was saying that like one light in the can't so there was one time someone took a thumbnail of me when I was crying and they put it on Twitter and it was like the first time I'd ever

been so viciously attacked for crying in videos and it was like thousands of stuff and it was a really weird day And to me, I had, that was the thought I had as like, well, I weirdly wasn't as affected by it. I was more like, but I care more about, I was like, I care more about the people who feel encouraged to be vulnerable more than these people who clearly have an issue being vulnerable. Anyone who's like, screw you for crying during this movie. Yeah, yeah, I should maybe go do some. So thank you, Sean for saying that and I hope that continues to carry on.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, and that's, I think, a nice way for us in the position that we're in to be reminded. Like, oh, yeah, there's some human value here beyond the fun part and the escape part. Thank you. Raccoon Shampoo, good to see you. Thanks for chiming in. My favorite part of my showing was catching a few people humming the Superman theme outside the theater. Oh, that's cool.

That's cool. That's been a smart part of the marketing is the mix of the John Williams tune to make you feel like, oh, we're going to go back to a little bit more of a traditional type of Superman. Yeah, we're going back to... That really worked for me. To Americana. And I thought we didn't so right and it didn't feel like a manipulation.

I agree. It was a tasteful choice and it doesn't feel like just recycling. Thank you, Raccoon Champo for jumping in. It's been a while, thank you. Hondo P. Action-packed, thank you for chiming in. They're not like Viltramites. They're utilitarians.

If you sent your only child to a backwater world full of emotional Neanderthals, you'd want them to rule them rather than serve them too. I guess so. That's what I was speaking to, like, they might show them the way. They might think they were like, no, we mean this in a good way. We mean show them the way. You guys need help.

Give them something to aspire to. Give them a little push forward. That's all. You think that's a possibility? I do think it's a possibility. That would be a way of not changing what they, like staying true to what they did, but trying to make it clearer. I think there's only one person who could know that, though, and it's supergirl.

Sure. I have a possibility who could know that. That's true. Or if he does get some. weird hologram. Yeah, or that. Yeah, of course. All right. Let's hope so. Let's hope so. All right. All right. Aiden Dardy is, oh, no, we did that. Thank you again. Without spoiling it, we genuinely might get that answer because a lot of Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, there is a whole, one of those sections is dedicated fully to the

entire time Kryptonite was falling apart. And so you, I mean, Krypton was falling apart. Wow. Wow. You made a mistake. Wow. I know. I hope Chris more engagement. That's a typo. Action Pact is back. It's the sequel. Thanks again. Let's be real. The L's only exist to die, just like the Wains. The Kents make Clark into the man that he is. That's why character-centered stories about Superman, like Smallville,

and My Adventures with Superman made that change. Oh, really? That's nice to hear. Sometimes the Kents only exist to die as well. Yeah, like in Man of Stee. Like, because I hadn't read Superman comics, I'd only seen the Super Christopher Reeve and Manisteele.

So you thought that that was an always thing? I thought Jonathan Kent always dies. And so when I was reading comics all three, I listened. I'm like,

Jonathan Kent's alive and all these? I thought he was supposed to be dead. So when I saw the trailer for this, I'm like, he's probably hugging him

because he's sick or something. He's going to die. A lot of people theorized that it was going to be Maugh Kent in this movie that died. I think that at some point

they probably will kill one of his parents, but I'm so glad that they did not in this movie. I hope they give no further characterization to Martha and they just offer. That's my hope. Friger, beginning of part two. Yeah.

This is huge-ass support, guys. What? I don't know. This is honestly crazily unusual. Oh, my. Thank you so much. This is overwhelming, and I'm trying not to let it be overwhelming. Thank you. That's why we're trying to give our time to all these. For sure. Thank you. Thank you,

creative very much. Greg said this made him want to be a better person. I cried watching because that's how Oh, fuck yeah. Thank you, man. That's so cool to hear. Greg loves when people cry. Yeah, it doesn't matter what kind of tears.

Even if it's me berating them. I just want to see you in emotion. Punching you, like physically hurting you. I cried watching you because that's how I felt. But you all have showed me so much about film and comics, Coy especially. May he rest in peace. As a past,

non-reading Marvel and DC fan. And you all have made. me love movies and comics more and that's incredibly like that's super cool and i feel like that's one of the best things that an operation like like it's cool to me that we get to come in and celebrate film and i've described this as like being in film studies class in a more fun context again and yeah if you have derived any greater love of art in general but especially movies and comics that's that's what we're here for what do you think roxy yeah you've been here the least between john are I

on the planet no I mean actually yeah what what movie can you recall any movie here that maybe had the most impact

on you society of snow oh that was a heavy one yeah that was a I look I think back on that one that was a really cool bonding experience

I felt like yeah because I also had no idea what we were getting into that movie was gut wrenching and like

unfortunately I've recommended it to 100 people because it's really good like f you give this with a warning label this will crunch your heart but also it's really triumphant in a way yeah that's one um trying to think of other movies here that really there's been a few this year i remember there was another one i watched and i thought oh that one's right up there with that for me i can't think of what it is right now um meaning if it's not like dramatic or sad but oh what was your question just like what had the most maybe left an impact on you but you always told me

If I'm not crying, it's not impactful. That's what I do say, which I hope leads to tears when I said. Recently, I, like, absolutely loved Grand Budapest. As you guys know, I, like, could not. You've been talking about that a lot, yeah. I could not get over. The visuals were so impactful. To me, anything that changes how I want to be as an artist,

and I was like, ooh, I, like, actually want to tweak the way I'm thinking about the movie that I'm making right now. So that, like, really, really impacted me. And then I think the Chucky franchise is one of the ones that impacted me, That's why I want to bring it back, honestly, just for the emotional aspect. I could never thought that I could feel that way about a horror franchise. I know that sounds crazy, but when I was watching the Chucky franchise, I was like, this is my favorite franchise ever. Like, I just thought it was brilliant.

Like every single movie, I just had the best time. Sometimes I forget that movies can just be like a great time, not make you cry or just like, oh, holy shit. I love this movie. So those are some of them. I love when I finally catch a great comedy. I'm just laughing my... Oh, for sure.

Like even according to I watching Galaxy Quest. I was like, man, I'm in such a good mood today. Like, something like that. What's the movie that I said the other day that you said you hadn't seen? Was it Princess Bride? No, I mean, I saw when I was a kid. There was something that I was like on my head.

I'd be a good reaction. You have to want to be. Prince Bride, my second favorite movie all the time. Yeah, saw him as a kid. Right after Goodwill Hunting. Oh, Austin. Another one I saw as a kid. And, yeah, there's a lot of movies.

I'm like, I need to revisit these. But yeah, thank you. And again, to the first part of your point, saying that makes me want to be a better person, that's my point. It's like, I could see logical gaps or something that could be better in a movie. But if you have that emotional takeaway,

I'm like, that's what counts more than anything else. So I'm glad you had that. Yeah. Thank you. And thank you for being so generous again. Yeah, thank you. All right. Dead shot from the DC universe.

Thank you for chiming in. Always hits your target. Hello, Rejects. Just left the theater. And it was a good film. Definitely a decent star for the DCU And I can't wait for what's next Eight out of ten is the

That's the most like Reasonable Measured like calm Eight out of ten Glad you liked it Like enthusiastic Enthusistic Passing grade

Very mellow timbre But eight out of ten is really I know that's I thought it's a little I'm like eight a six or seven To me if I think a movie is Just if I think it's good It's a six and a half

Like that's good me. Yeah. Yeah, like, like, you know, five is like truly mid. Right. And then six is like, this is pretty good. Yeah. Seven's like, this is good.

Good. Yeah. And eight, nine is like really good. Yeah. Yeah. What is this for you guys? I think on just on the emotional level, it's like a nine out of ten for me. On a film level, I would say like eight out of ten.

Yeah. I'm, yeah, I'm somewhere between eight and nine. I want that second viewing to really give me a better idea. But yeah. What about you? I'm exactly with you guys on that. Yep. Okay, cool.

We had two different points, Bia. No, I'm exactly with you guys. Right now. I stand with you, and I would like to see it again. Yeah, yeah, need to survive by that. Need to double chat. Ditto, I agree with everyone. Very agreeable.

Francisco Valdez, thank you for chiming into the chat. It'll be cool to see Zod carry out what Cal L was sent to do. It'll be like Goku and Vegeta. I'm here to impregnate women. Let's go. Give me my hair. concubines. I mean, like, I wonder, you know, like, if the message is authentically as Lex, you know, portrays it, then that would be a nice setup for a Zod.

Well, Immanus Steele, Zod shows up, and he's like, I'm going to recreate Krypton here. Yeah. And that's essentially what Jorel is telling him to do. But there's something that feels so much more icky about what Jarrell is telling him to do. Yeah. Well, because it's less overt than, like, come in, what, cryptophone, terrafort. Terraform this, yeah, Krypton style, whereas, yeah, it's

like infiltrate their world and, like, become their god. It's, like, way different. Are you guys Goku people? I did not grow up on Dragon Ballsy. I was watching Gundam Wing while most people were watching Dragon Ballsy, so I mostly know... Trader. Anytime I would catch them doing the last time on,

it was just people going, ugh. People doing the punches. Yeah, yeah. Did you grow up on Dragon Ball? No. No. It would be surprising. Watching the whole series here on the channel. Get ready. All right. Chris. Retzliff. Thank you for chiming in. I like Jorrell saying spread your seed to save the Kryptonian race rather than injecting a baby with a codex. Sounds more fun at least.

It would be more fun for Superman, I suppose. We need a road trip comedy where Superman flies around the world just like, you know, having relations. A baby in every state. Yeah, exactly. We'll start with America. Every state, every country. The beginning of the sentence, if you just finish it, I like Jorrell saying. spread your seed to save cryptonian race period like you like i like it i think he's got the right idea i wish i was call out you know what i'm saying i dig that that's crazy this was one of my least takeaways the first time i saw this movie but it has been the most prevailing subject in this life's yeah that really was one of your least takeaways i mean i did i wasn't too hung up i liked

it as a plot maneuver where it's said in the plot um and the effect but i wasn't like what the like i didn't i didn't have like a mindfuckery experience about it Oh, I felt, ew. Like, that's how it was. I didn't know what a harem was. That's my wife after the president of Baravia said it. And I was like, what is this? What's the name of it?

It's Baravia and where? What's the other place called? I don't know the other place. I'll find it out eventually. But before that happens, Calphani, Ken Jenkins is back and wants to know clone comes back as Bizarro Superman. Or we just get Bizarro Superman.

Or we just get Bizarro Superman. Well, because it seemed like the clone, by the end of it, was, you know, choosing its own nature to some degree or its nurture. So, you know, I feel like just to come back and be like, he's back again, but he's committed to being evil now or something. It would be kind of weird.

I mean, but yeah, and Bizarro is an actual like character, character, like a personality and stuff, yeah. And like depth and heartbreak and stuff. And yeah, so I think like, no, I think you wouldn't want he's not a clone Bizarro. Do you think all-star's version or what do you think?

I think something akin to All-Star, And I think Superman and Lois did a pretty damn good rendition of Bizarro, actually. Do you remember that, Arc at all? I barely remember it, honestly. I just remember thinking this is a really good rendition of Bizarro. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm like, but no, I don't feel like it should be a clone.

I feel like that actually takes away the effect of... Oh, no, I remember it. I remember it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaks backwards. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally, yeah.

Because everything's backwards and bizarre world. I do like the All-Star Superman version of him, which I don't think is in the animated movie, John Watch, but I do like the comic. I really like the version of the comic. In All-Star Superman. No, I don't think we get a bizarre. No, there's a lot to cut out in the movie.

It's fitted into an hour and 20 minutes. Action packed. Action packed. Hell of you. Thank you so much. Action-packed. Yes, he's back. Action-packed is packed back-back.

All right. There's a ton of Clark in this, but people don't know that Clark actually has three persons. The Bumbling Oaf, Metropolis, Clark, the calm hero with a smile, Superman, and the real. This is almost five now. Okay, let's see. The bumbling oaf, Metropolis, Clark, the calm hero with a smile, Superman, and the real Clark who marries Lois and just wants to help everyone. Y'all are missing it.

The bumbling oaf, Metropolis Clark. Oh, that's one person. The calm hero with a smile, Superman. and the real Clark, who marries Lois and just wants to help everyone, Smallville Clark. You're right. I kind of don't agree with this. I don't disagree because it's a fair way of looking at it. But to me, like when in this movie, what I liked is she knows he's Superman.

And so I feel like Clark is just kind of who he is when he's faking it. Other than that, he's Superman, not the hero, but like Clark was. is the persona, but I know a lot of people don't feel that way. Well, I think the general thing is that people go, like, Kill Bill Volume 2. I misspoke on that. I didn't phrase that right. Superman's the hero. Clark is that everything else is he's Clark, even though she knows that he is Superman.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's two versions of Clark. I think there's Clark Kent. Yeah, no, I'm wrong. There's Clark Kent, the actual just Clark Kent, the guy I grew up in Smallville. And then there's the Clark Kent investigating. disguise that he puts on to really differentiate himself from Superman so people don't suspect he's Superman yeah and then there's Superman yeah I take it back that I'm totally wrong there are three two Clarks and a Superman yeah yeah exactly yeah that's totally right who is also Clark

yeah yeah yeah so but that's that's why so when people say they want to act you're solid you're right when people are saying they want more Clark Ken I think that's what they're saying is they want more of like the guy who's putting up an act like the one who shows up with the crazy here in the glasses and seems a little unconfident and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very much into Superman's day to day. You don't get much of Clark Kent's day to day. The fake Clark Kent, but there's a very real Clark Kent. But people

have been like, no, that's Cal L. I'm like, no, Cal L is an identity he doesn't actually know. Clark Kent is the identity he knows, because that's what he grew up as. Absolutely. Also, Jarhan Poor is the other nation. Baravia is in conflict worth. But I appreciate that the dissection discussion.

Thank you, Action Fact. Yeah, sorry for calling you wrong. You were right. I was wrong. I'm smart, you're dumb, I'm big, you're small, and there's nothing you can do about it. Name the movie. What? Role models? No.

Of course I would be quoting role models, but it's not. It's actually Matilda. Oh, I haven't seen it forever. Never seen it. Shouts out tomorrow Wilson. All right. It's been on my React list for Verlondon.

Greg, that's like a whole, you have to see Matilda. I will one day. Matil. There's a lot of things we're filmed. I'm so scared about this next comment. Hippo nipple. It's Coy's parents.

Thank you for creating Koi. We're just getting him out. And destroying Koi. You're just getting to when Koi's parents were here, oh my God, I do have to go. No, I mean, I can check how many more there are, but, you know. Roxy, you can leave it every time. You can leave any time.

Thank you. I have to pee so bad. Go pee. You can take a break. Yeah, you can jump out and jump back in. I'm going to call Graham and see what are my actual. No, seriously, if you have to go, you're way past your work. BRB, but shout out to every. I'll read all of your names so that I see everybody.

You've gone above and beyond. He took almost an hour to get here. You're good for the day. I was trying to give you more crowds rounding up to give you a compliment. Jeez. You drove 10 hours. You flew in, took a boat. We'll just keep that mic there so that way people know there's supposed to be a person here.

That'd be funny. Yeah, I might drink your coffee. Dead shot. Thank you for chiming in here. Definitely need more Luthor to fully get. him still a good performance by holt but i for sure need more also mr terrific was the best in it uh mr terrific was definitely like the standout supporting cast character who i was like give me more of him right now do you feel like there's i've heard this sentiment about lex quite a bit do you

do you agree with this um i i guess i kind of feel like like you hear his philosophy right but you don't know why that philosophy is there outside of knowing like why he hates you know why he hates Superman but how do that why come to be? Yeah. And that comes with backstory. It makes me wonder because I know he's

well documented as saying I don't want to do all the origins stuff like that. It makes me wonder though if you could still explore that stuff later via some thematic element or whatever. Like I feel like we could jump into the past and see what has led to this point especially because we

don't know, Lex Luthor is a character who will persist throughout this universe, who will appear multiple times, who will have character arcs and changes I would imagine because he's so important to D.C. to Superman. So it's weird. I can get a kind of like leave him want more vibe out of this, but at the same time, I didn't leave the first screening being like, I don't feel like I know this guy. Like I left maybe with the idea of like, I could definitely, I would happily take more of the meat from that bone. And I think a big part of the Dan Merle review, his complaints were like, yeah, we don't, because we haven't done the origin stuff, we don't have the emotional attachment to some of the things we already know

to be true. That's fair. It's like, I feel like they have room to elaborate, but I didn't feel like it was anemic at the same time either. That's fair. I guess I'm in the middle on that one. I mean, a lot of people love it. But thank you for the question in the Super Chat, my friend.

It's definitely one of the elements that has been more debated I've seen. Some people really love the Lex take, and some people think it's a little slight, but I liked it. Yeah. i'm excited to see it on second viewing though action packed bigger hater guns lex or ramees brock uh my god i think uh i think ramy's brock like if i'm gonna say hater i would say ramy's brock because he's just like a a super petty jealous like there's no real reason he's just a little bitch about it yeah i mean there's the whole job thing but like he feels

like a hater whereas lex luther feels like he's on a whole other level of like vindictive hatred like you know determination to destroy this there's at least aspects about lex you can admire of like yeah of like uh as resilience it is it is genius um but uh yeah he is a hater but he's got so much logic to go off of that i feel like he could you could argue his non-haterness if you wanted to i mean yeah you can see how with lex like yeah i get it if the Superman could change at any moment. He could turn on people at any moment. Whereas, like, Ramey's Brock is like,

when you say a hater, like a general hater, I'm like, yeah, Ramey's Brock. The petty asshole. We'll get to Michelle's when Roxy's back. Malik B. Saw the movie today. Thank you for chiming in. It was so awesome.

Yes. So happy that I was able to make it to the live stream. You guys are amazing. Hey, it's a red-letter day. You got the movie in. You're here with us. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Malik. Thank you. Absolutely. It is truly awesome to see how many people are actually loving it.

You have no clue. I have never checked Rotten Tomatoes so much in hopes that, like, please don't spike down. Please don't have like the biggest dip ever. It has been really refreshing. I'm so happy to hear you say that. P. And B, that must stand for the best because that's what you are. Lindsay, thank you so much for chiming in as well.

What was the funniest part of the movie to y'all? What was the funniest part? It is the Gary line. That is why we made the shirt. Yeah. Show them the shirt. Gary is the name. Oh, yes.

Let's go. Let's go. You guys haven't seen our new Gary shirt. I've been waiting to plug it on the community page because I don't want to spoil it yet. Get it in there. Look at that. Hey, hello. My name is Gary.

Just like the delivery from Alan Tudik. I would like a real name. Four is a real name. so is gary it is it gets such a huge laugh both times i've seen it and it is undoubtedly my the the funniest line to yeah um like i see a lot of people laugh their asses off at the uh the super shit one when he's like getting pissed off about it and like people laugh a lot when he can't figure out the recorder with lois like there's humor to be had there but the one that is like it's just a straight up joke that just a fucking lands for me it is uh that i think like the timing

and it doesn't feel like out of place humor but it is a hilarious joke yeah it's perfectly in character yeah and as I mean and I love the post credit scene humor too of when he is by way you're doing an excellent job

generally like all throughout this you did a great job on the cutting around oh thank you as I accidentally cut to Roxy's empty chair no but even like I've seen you in like in conversation with Roxy the way you've been able to cut back and forth it's been great

the yeah the that that joke is that is easily my favorite joke and it just and it also makes you like him gary more like it makes you like that you remember the character more yeah from that moment and you you think of him as a character and it says so much about who the personality is of this robot um i i think that it's like it's one of those jokes that ell that that makes you see this character as a three-dimensional character all the sudden yeah whereas before it does feel like a programming and stuff and like there's humor and personality but that moment you're like that's a three-dimensional character now you you have sentience yeah yeah yeah yeah i love that moment so much the whole we don't have emotions thing clearly there's something in there yeah just that delis so is gary

yeah he sounds so miffed that he won't consider like a like giving him a real yeah it's like you can see a human expression yeah like you're not respecting my wishes yeah yeah you're not dignifying me It is the funniest moment. Yeah. I'm excited to see it again, though, to also get finer moments of humor and see, you know, what else jumps out at me in that regard. Recoon Shampoo, thank you for jumping in again, since they actually seem pretty chill. James Gunsch against Zach Snyder to cameo in the DCU. I think that would be very cool.

I wonder what the reaction to that would be people's minds would melt. I feel like it would finally put this whole thing to rest. I think it would. Well, I think there's a certain group of people. who will never let it rest. But I think for a good amount of people, it probably would. More so than a Rick and Morty animated bit.

I heard about the letter exchange with Henry Cavill and David Cornswept, but I didn't know until last night that Henry Cavill sent the letter first. Oh, that's cool. And to me, that is like an acceptance, and I'm sure that's cathartic for him of like, I need to do this to let go.

I'm sure he had some letting go to do. I still think Henry Cavill was done really dirty. and like he was like tossed around like a prostitute and fucking Warner Brothers you know like I thought it was really he was done really dirty in the way that that all went down and so I could see why the no pun intended the injustice

has felt around him and I'm just I feel like that's really good for him that he was able to send the letter yeah yeah 100% couldn't agree more let's see Paul McGarry is a real name thanks for chiming in

I had an amazing relationship with my dad he passed away from brain cancer in 2016 i'm very sorry to hear that um sorry man and any father and son scenes even commercials kill me well i mean seen brain cancer's that seriously yeah deep well we talked that's what my mom dad from i feel you my dude what are you guys talking about well we prior we were there's a couple things we cover really quick where uh the the why the g why the gary line delivery says so much about the character and why it's the funniest scene to me and the um line and Henry Cavill

that he was done dirty by Warner Brothers the way that all went down and yeah but we left one so let's read

the first one for Michelle let's go real quick what happened with brain candy we will we just read that so we're going to go back to that

but what about Michelle says happy birthday Roxy got a little party face little cake wishing you an awesome one

thank you so much Michelle Michelle you rock thanks bib all right Right. And now we are going back up once I reorient the mouse here. All right. Paul McGarry. They're still here?

For a little bit. As much as we can. I missed our appointment. So I'm seeing what I can do about that. Oh, shit. Sorry. It's not your fault. I wanted to be with the people. The people. I'm with you. I wanted some Superman love. I'm so tired. I manage our social media. Yeah, yeah. You see more than all of us.

Yeah. But yeah, Paul McGarry said I had an amazing relationship with my dad. He passed away from brain cancer in 2016. And any father and son scenes, songs, even commercials kill me. Yeah, 100%. I so feel you on that. Like, and also, for those of you guys who don't know, brain cancer is just the absolute worst. They don't make it worse than that. So I feel you on that. And not to want up you, but my mom passed in 2011. So you had a couple. more me. Depends how old Paul is. But how old were you? Because maybe you beat me. This is my sister and I. This is our darkest, darkest humor. If you have one dead parent, you're a VP of

DPC, but if you have two dead ones, then you're the president of the DPC. But if you were a kid, kid when your parents like there's teenagers and there's kid, and you can outrank other people. So you might outrank me, Paul. I don't know. So what if you're the child of like a polyamorous relationship

where you've got several parents? And you've lost all of them. God. King. Well, now that we've successfully done a set in the gallows, seriously, thank you for sharing and for, you know, being with us today. And for, you know, I hope you're getting some joy and some hope out of this stuff. And I hope there was some catharsis to those scenes, especially with Paul.

Thank you, Paul. That's like less than a decade. So thank you for sharing that. Torrance Kill Coim. I mean, so it feels pretty fresh, so it was like you. Torrance Kilcoyne with the cool-ass name. Thanks for chiming in. The dueling close-ups of Superman and Lex at the end.

Lex melting into tears, Superman with a slight grin on his face. It fades. What is that to you? What do you mean? We talked about it. Superman has a crying. But they didn't talk about the dueling of the fact that Superman has a very different look on his face then I mean he won

in that moment but I think the moral intellectual victory yeah I think the slight grin on his face but the slight grin fading he says a lot about Superman that there's like sure he won but I don't feel like he's as happy as maybe

oh we talked about Jimmy's grin we didn't talk about Superman's grim yeah yeah and that's the most it's a very like classical Superman that moment is like his arms are folded his paws chest is popped up and he has a slight grin And it's the most, like, classic Superman look that he has in that moment.

It's a good beating evil is Superman's grinning face. Yeah. Uh-huh. And yet, you know, seeing the internal pain and vulnerability of this person in the rare glimpse probably has an effect on him, too. And also the entire city was, like, taken out. Yeah. So it's probably like, oh, shit, there's a lot of work we have to do. Yeah.

It's crazy how it just hit me right now. Like, the Batman and Superman, both of those endings are their main staple, cities, and with them getting fucking wrecked. And a hundred other superhero movies. But they're like, where their cities are titular city, their main city? It happens

even in the DCEU where the cities are destroyed. Remember when they had to like... Metropolis, yeah. Metropolis just gets fucked up a lot. Yeah. It also happens in Fast and the Furious. How is the mission impossible?

You see and cities get destroyed left and right all time. But the movie's ending off with, like, the massive destruction. Yeah. But the post credits scene in this movie made me think that maybe the sequel will deal with having to like repair Metropolis and consequences

of that. The way how I imagine Batman's dealing with that, like Penguin deals with that. How far after was that scene? What scene? The post-credit scene. It was actually a 10 minutes of black after the credits. No, no, I mean. And then they play the scene. Do you know what I mean? How far

after the events of the movie. Oh, that seems like it was happening a little bit after like the train, after Lois and him kissed in the train station. It seemed pretty soon now. Within the days, you guys feel. I thought it was like that day. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Somewhere within the confines of the movie. Yeah, it was fair. All right. Thank you. It was not a stupid question. Leave your comments on how stupid rocks it. Logan Missiac. Thank you for chiming into the chat, instead of making

Superman parents evil, they should have had Paw Kent finish the second half of the message, so it would be complete on both sides. I don't know. Clark, we raised you to have a harem. Clark, what is this one girlfriend bullshit? We sent you to Metropolis

to impregnate people. Loose city girls. This makes absolutely no sense. Maybe meaning is a joke. I don't know. How is that? I'm back in. I mean, I've won't to see an alt-universe Superman where

Paw Kent is like very abusive. Yeah, but he's the second half of the message? Yeah, I don't really know what that means. I feel like he was the second half of the message in his own way. Yeah, instead of him coming in and being like, I'll pick up where this left off, yes, and. I feel like he is spiritually, the completion of his lineage. Yeah.

And the nature, nurture cycle. Angela Vance, a moment of silence. Thank you, Angela Vance. Moment of silence. All right. Mike Kay, what is it about superhero movies? Thank you, by the way.

That brings out the worst in people. That's a really great question. What a great question. Because obviously they should do the opposite of that. I don't know. I think there's a certain element of, like, fandom, I think, is an interesting thing, and especially in the superhero realm,

I think there is something perhaps to be, for the way in which the evolution has gone down because we have Superman 78 that's one of the kind of top tier like oh this is a great example of how to do this and people certainly love Batman 89 and stuff but I feel like there has been a thing that these have had to contend with and overcome

where it's like these are for kids they're silly they're wacky you know I feel like there's been a certain perhaps amount of looking down upon this media that we are also adapting into cinema we're elevating this by making it a movie or something like that And so I guess within that, you know, fandoms get very protective and fandoms, you know,

kind of crystallize and can feel like they're on the outside of something and they get very protective of the thing that it is. So I don't know. I feel like it might have something to do with that. Yeah. And the fact that like, especially with these characters, you have adaptations where you need, there's a weird interplay between like,

you kind of need to do the definitive thing before you start messing with the thing. and we've kind of gone in reverse with a lot of these where it's like we've waited a long time for a definitive version of such and such and such and then people get very, I think, territorial when it finally happens or maybe it doesn't happen.

Yeah, they're so invested. I mean, Superman's very specific towards Snyder especially, that occurring, but yeah, in terms of movie fandoms like superhero genres, definitely still the biggest fandom around. I don't know. I've never received hate the way I did for Lord of the Rings. this this didn't hold the

Lord of the Rings is an ugly ass fandom yeah so that's not a superhero thing so I do think like going to what John was saying it's yeah like when there is source material or there's something like people are so obsessive with something it's not superhero necessarily it's more like the fandom aspect oh man like

I mean you had a Lord of the Rings of the Rings of power the amount of people who were like John should be with Greg Greg should just like the amount of people and it was on Twitter a lot like I was fucking like the anytime john didn't like something in it i got blamed bro i'm like you both had similar to place yeah i find it very odd though because like here

people are upset that we liked it because they dislike it even if they haven't seen it they dislike this take right supposedly the craziest most vicious thing about lord of the rings is that you like that i loved it but i loved this and they loved it we both loved it and i and they were vicious. I've never seen that before. So I can't say it's the superhero movies that brings out the worst some people. That brought out, I've never seen two people love something and one group of people

be so upset about how somebody loved something. That was like, mind blowing. I think there's something also to be said for the nature of canon, because Lord of the Rings, especially the other writings, and even the main three books that everyone thinks of are presented like histories.

And so I think that further incentivizes people to really hold on to the nitty gritty of the facts and the canon and the canon and the canon has become a word that we all use now partly because of comic book stuff and people who have read this forever like there is

a legitimacy to that but I think people do act out sometimes in ugly ways because they feel like they've done the homework this movie's not doing the homework or something like that and I mean yeah it's weird how you could love something but people are like but you don't understand it the way I do so you don't love it right you know totally yeah

but why are we wrong for liking this tell us below well i mean a lot of times the gatekeeping of everything is good and if you don't like one thing like i remember it was like the theod and was the first thing you expressed of like not liking a character or something i like the way they did him i thought that he was a bad guy yeah so like that opinion is not the shared opinion of people so that like even though you love the movie and you like how they did it but you had a different perspective of him people the people have gatekeep opinions weirdly and perspectives and you have to like everything we saw

every especially Lord of the Rings I've noticed that too yeah I got yeah it's awful it's hard because a lot of times people are also coming at you having already completely digested the thing yeah yeah you're doing it for the first time right and by the end I was like oh he's awesome and everybody's not allowed to like him now

and it's like all right yeah you're back you're back pedaling yeah allow me to arrive there thank you but no it's it's cool we should all just chill I guess Diego Gourvera is back Thank you so much. No idea Roxy was Jewish and not at all

tried to be disrespe-oh, this is to the previous, to the early comment. No idea, Roxy was Jewish, not at all trying to be disrespectful to her or to Jewish people, just bad governments, as you said. Yeah, I didn't think you were. This is exactly what I thought you were doing,

Diego. I appreciate you clarifying, but you're great, nothing to do with, you didn't do anything wrong. I'm going to take down all the nasty tweets we just sent about you. I will say is a complete,

just a little side note. is insane to me how many people know me and don't know that I'm Jewish, which is what, like, it is my bio, I wear a star on my neck, I talk about being Jewish all the time, because do you guys know how many people tell me that I'm the only Jewish person that they've ever met? Like, so many people.

Wow. Only Jewish person they watch, only Jewish person they ever met. So I really tried very hard to like let it be known so that I can change your candle thing, so I can change one person's mind. when my mom met her college roommate they checked her for horns you know like that's what's very real right very real of like our lifetime in the last little bit people who never met a Jew they they demonize in a way because they don't know you didn't do that

Diego you're awesome but so I go above and beyond to say in every conversation that I'm Jewish and still people don't know which is interesting because I feel like you guys like not that you guys make fun of but you you'll joke about like I mention it too not too often but like I'll shoe-worned in conversations where it's not relevant. It's like, why did you just say you were doing? We actually had to stop Roxy from coming in dressed as a rabbi. Exactly. A fake beard and a big hat.

Yeah, they were like, it's a little much at this point. Like, we get it. Yeah. All right. But interesting you hear. Thanks, Diego. There's a Mizuzza above every studio door in this place. I put them all in there, yeah. R.E. 69 dudes. Thank you for being here as well. Watch Superman yesterday way better than I expected it to be.

people who are hating on this movie over showing basic human empathy is insane. I agree. It's an audacious thing to is punk. Punk upsets people. Don't you know you're the villain when you do that? Or do you not now? The amount of like out of context things

people have done with this movie of like we'll take a screenshot, we'll take a little line and we'll manipulate. Supergirl's an obvious phone, but they do a lot of shots of David Cornswet to try to be like, see yeah you need context they've also done a lot with rachel brosan

um flying oh on the ship yeah like that's so embarrassing that you would need her to fly it it's like she's yeah i mean like we have someone who doesn't who's not like in the movie sphere like us but they were working on they were helping us build stuff

and working on the AC and they were like oh you guys saw Superman i feel like no one likes it and it's like they don't even follow this stuff yeah but they that like even to him like the word he's like time I look online people don't like it so it is cool one that's why I'm so relieved seeing all this and seeing the audience score still be way up there all right I'm here for five more minutes hit me with your best shot all righty let's go let's go ruby bands thank you so much hey

coy if you could check uh your starts with ends with I ends with oh if you could check your starts with I ends with Graham I sent you something important to me I'll have to let No. Thank you for that. Coy does not run his own social media anymore. Someone else does. So maybe they will check it and maybe they will respond. I won't give away who it is, but yeah. Oh, people don't know?

I don't know if people know. Well, there you go. Find out next time. Amar Amawi. I hope I'm getting that right. And shouts out across the pond. Hey, Rejects, I liked the movie. It was fun. But I think we could have had a better plot as a reverse king.

type movie where Superman is the Boy Scout and other heroes are all effed up giving Superman an arc I don't sometimes do this too where I watch a movie that I like but it's just not the movie that I wanted to see this just sounds like you felt like

you wanted to see a different movie which is like you're totally allowed to have wanted to see a different movie honestly I felt that way when I was watching Man of Steel where I was like I wish that we just did something else the thing that I wanted us to do. But that's a fair, that's fair that you wanted that.

I wouldn't have liked that as much. I think there's some element of that. It's just not completely writ large. Like, you know, I feel like the justice gang is there to kind of present a contrast to how Superman deals with things. Agreed. Versus how any other powered metahuman. I mean, I think in the movie is having an identity crisis and then he comes to an acceptance

of himself by the end. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Or at least more so. but you know this movie could be cool as well not a bad idea I feel you raccoon shampoo back again thank you so much I wonder if the black hole spit

Ultraman out on Earth 3 to become the version from the comics the crimes indicate would be cool event film villains I don't know too much about it but I feel like there's a really great theory because they obviously don't kill him and he could survive going through a black hole

so it does get the possibility of him coming back. So, yeah, like, I've heard stuff about this. I agree. I think that's a really good call out, and I appreciate you bringing that up here. I haven't heard anybody say that, and I think that that's very, very plausible. Oh, yeah.

Malik B, thank you for chiming back in again. I am also excited to see Millie Alcockas Kara, loved her in House of the Dragon, Hotdie. And seeing her in this movie made me smile. She's going to be great. I agree. She's a, I mean, she left a massive impression on Hot D. So she was incredible in that show.

Agreed. And, yeah, I'm excited that people will get to know two different, like to be two iconic characters. It's really cool. And then get Emma Jarsie to play her grown up. And James Gunn specifically saw her in House of the Dragon, was like, I want her. You would have to imagine. That's what happened. All right.

Ismail Hamzawi. Thank you for chiming in. Do you think Luthor will come back? Is it a good idea? He's got to come back. He's got to come back. He's involved in so many things, and there are a lot of, like, at least as of what I've seen,

which is not quite as extensive as you, but I feel like there are a lot of crossover events and things like that, too, where Lex Luthor figures in heavily. This is just the start of Lex. There's no way, there's no way he doesn't come back. Like, the way we've wanted, like we didn't get to have it

with any of the Joker's of how Joker could keep coming back. This, we will have this with Lex, though. Lex will be a prevalent villain. I don't know if it'll be the main villain in the second one, but he'll be kind of like Kingpin for Daredevil. Yeah, it's got to be. He's his arch nemesis. You can't get rid of the arched.

I'm excited to watch a villain grow. Nuff said New York. I think this is going to be a big yes. Thank you for joining us and for contributing. Does this tone fit Batman's fantastical villains? I feel like, of course, it does. I feel like this tone lends itself more to the fantastical villains than the Batman. Does he mean Batman the character?

Or does he mean the Batman? Yeah, I think it's talking about the world established. I think the thing that people are getting wrong is that they think that this tone will be the tone of every DC movie going forward. And I've heard that sentiment expressed a lot. And it's probably because Marvel had kind of like a same thing going on for a while. Unified tone. Yeah, unified tone so they could do like their crossover films. But I don't feel like it's going to be the case. And I think because of this point, this is why we shouldn't have Robert Pattinson be in the DCUs. That way you could have more of this fantastical villains. Yeah. And James Gunn has been out here literally saying the different

films will be tonally different. Yeah. I wouldn't describe a lot of Batman's villains as fantastical. Not a lot. Maybe I don't know that word's definition the way I think I do. Well, like, Riddler's very realistic. Joker, you can do realistic, but then you got like a clay face, you got a Mr. Freeze, you got a killer. You got a killer. You guys find Mr. Freeze to be fantastical?

Definitely. It's not a realistic character. A guy in this like freeze tube gun thing that he walks around. It's fantastic to me, like, it's like a clay face they are actually making. Yeah, Clayface is more fantastical. Mr. Freeze, like, it's like a really tragic story. and then, like, is a real man who does something, you know. Poison Ivy is very supernatural.

Yeah, I guess. I just, I find Superman's villains oftentimes to be a little more fantastical. They fit more of that category. But I guess they're saying, like, the Batman would be, here's everything we can do that's realistic. And then, but we need it, but like Mr. Freeze would still enter the realm of, like, science fiction. So I feel like this movie's tone perfectly allows within the shared corner of this. universe for yeah anything fantastical or grounded if you want to do that you know me me too yeah me too yeah i feel like this this nicely sets up a spectrum of possibility nick alexander

nick can't say no thank you for joining us superman ruled rejects rule boston rules love you oh my god on love island there's these characters nick and alandria and everybody wanted them to get together all season and they finally did and they're called Nicolandria and your name is Nick Alexander it's very similar. Amazing. And by Boston, I'm going to assume you meant Boston brand

Deadman. Dante Woodbath. Thank you, Nick Alexander. Thank you, Nick Alexander. Thank you. Nick, very much. Nick Landria, for sure. I am getting very hungry and thirsty. I don't know where my water is. You need a fly you?

No, it's okay. Let's keep it going, John. Dante Woodback. Thank you so much. Coy is my Superman Dreamcast. All right. Sega I'll have to let him know that He's probably ripped enough He's just got to get a little taller Crazy to have him in the center of the thumbnail

And he's here for like so much Nott's here for so much of it He left it too We should get a new thumbnail for this That's just Koi's parents It's 430 We've been streaming So four hours

Almost five I guess Wow Yeah I do have to go But I do see one question coming up And then I'll leave Roxy Mike Joyce Thank you again for chiming in What would be your dream DCU

roll go um i have so many i would i would love to be black canary yeah um i think that that would be really like so much fun for me and realistic not sorry it's not realistic that i'm cast as black canary if i was cast as somebody in the dc plausible that would be more plausible than some of the other people sure um but i or like you know i can do a pretty good like harley voice um that would be super fun but playing poison ivy has like been a lifelong i would just be that would be the most insane exciting so those are some of the the biggies that would be incredible heck yeah it's very possible that i'll be cast as black canary is what i'm saying that's what i was what i've heard leave roxy cheetah leave now thank you mike for that um thank you guys for all the

dc love and thanks for being here for so much longer than you planned on man i'm going to listen to all these so even if you mention anything about me i'll try to respond to the comments thanks guys Thank you, Roxy. Seriously, thank you for being here for so long. Thank you. Thanks for my socks, honey. All righty, gang. Do you mean you get water?

That would be amazing. Oh, my God, fly that water in while we talk to L.D. Can you grab any sparkling water? I don't know if both offices are open, but any sparkling water will be incredible. If they're not open, take my keys. Yeah. Because I don't think I did open them. Anyway, L.D., I saw it six out of ten.

Matt Reeve should take over D.C. have a very dreary, lengthy I mean, I like the Batman. I know you set up these scenes here on OBS. I'm going to put a picture of Roxy in the middle. Okay, sure. Whatever you want to do.

Let's fill that center up. Matt Reeve should take over D.C. I feel like there's a realm where he could maybe take over Elseworld side of D.C. Thank you so much, Roxy. And again, thank you for being here for so much longer than you planned on.

Thank you. I'm so good, but thank you. No, I'm not. I got two drinks here. I got two drinks. I'm so drinked up. I have bread and avocado in here. Yeah.

Yeah, the gate's open. All right. Thanks, buddy. Thank you again. Seriously, thank you. All righty. Heck yeah. Well, he's not going to take over, D.C.,

but appreciate your super chat, LD. Yeah, absolutely. Who's next up here, John? All righty, next up. We don't end this stream without answering every super chat. This was a two-hour scheduled stream. I had no idea what time it was. Zero idea.

Okay, time flies. Oh, my, I thought we're like, oh, it might be like three o'clock, three. Oh, shit. All right, Brian Garcia. Thank you so much for being here and chiming in. Brian asks or says, Hi, guys, first time sending in a super chat. Thank you so much for being here first timer.

I've never crushed harder on Lois Lane than in Superman. I assume this version shows how well she was written and how well Brosnahan acted, the relationship dynamic was perfect. Agree. Agree so much. Their chemistry is just so off the charts in this movie. P.

I've heard people say they wanted more scenes with them, like it was kind of a disappointment. But when you get those scenes, they are of quality. Absolutely agree, agree. All righty. Well, we're going to move that out of the frame. All right.

Hey, guys. Guess what, guys. This is not the last Superman video. We got two more going. We got so much more to talk about. We got two more. We got the ranking. I'm so glad no one asked a question in the SuperChap.

We got a whole ranking of the Superman movies coin I did yesterday. That goes up tomorrow. And ranking the super suits was the first one we shot. And that goes up last. Oh, it's okay. That's going to be the best one. All right. Brian Garcia, thank you so much.

I hope to see you again. L.D. Thank you again for chiming in. Dr. Strange plus Star Lord equals this Superman. MDCU thumbs down. Even though you gave it a six out of ten, which isn't that bad. But it seems like you don't like, you seems like your rating of this universe is lower. I mean, I feel like six out of ten is, I think if it was just like another installment in an already established universe, that would be fine.

Like I gave Ironheart like a six out of ten. Sure. Because I was like, it's just fine enough for me to push it over. I mean actually in retrospect I'd probably do it like a five but if it was like if Ironman was six out of ten

I'd be like I don't really care about the future of Marvel sure because like think about it like this like Incredible Hulk was not well received and not not that was not well I loved it the first time I saw it but it wasn't like gloriously praised the way Iron Man was

yeah same with Thor same with Captain America and especially Iron Man too like a lot of those movies always have come around with way more love but at the time it was like iron man was like the pinnacle standard of like this is the best fucking thing in the world ever um and that's because it because it was the first one it gave a lot of faith for what you could do the first one matters more than anything else so if your first one is a six out of ten of course it would

leave you feeling dejected if it was the second or third one very different narrative yeah 100 could not have said it better the callie kid thank you for chiming in the chat as Well, my mom beat me to see in Superman. She saw it Thursday and got popcorn bucket combo with two cups. She loved it. I got tics for IMAX 3D on Sunday. Well, I mean, that's a really cool because it's just not the kind of story I'm used to hearing about, especially a movie like this. So shouts out to your mom.

And I would be curious to know what her taste in comics and comic movies is. But I hope you enjoy it too. And this seems like a very appealing movie to see in 3D as well as, you know, obviously IMAX. then unlike uh you know it's cool that like we're hearing so many people this this really seems like it's a superman for like a lot of different like all seasons for all seasons it seems like it's a superman for like a lot of different age man we still have 600 people here after all this hours that's that's so unusual for us holding steady in the 600s um but uh yeah so the sorry what was okay no we're here we're seeing a lot of different people um uh from different ages who

are going to watch this movie, you know, where I don't really feel that way with a lot of other different properties out there that will speak of it. It seems like there's like people who are senior citizens to like teenagers who are going, you know? Well, and that's, and that's a really beautiful thing, I think, because for so, so, like, so many people grew up on this and we're getting to the point where soon there will not be people who were born before there was a Superman. Yeah. So, like, this has been part of so many people's lives. And that's really, cool and rare, I think, for especially a top, like if you say comic books,

Superman's probably one of the first people you might think about. So, yeah, like the generational aspect of this is really lovely, I think. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you so much. Callie Kidd shouts out to your mom. Nkouns, or Kuhn's, for Koi. This movie's message, thank you, by the way. Israel

Christianity, not some angry person on Twitter with a verse in their bio, faith-based movies, aren't it, this was. And hey, I mean, like, in a sense, yeah, I think you can argue that this movie is fighting for, you know, a lot of Christ-like ideals anyway

in terms of, yeah, you know, helping your neighbor and, you know, trying to do the best that you can to leave the world a little better than you found it and, you know, to not take any excuse not to act, you know? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Um, and I mean, I like that. Like, uh, yeah, that's the thing is like I grew up Catholic and Christian, I was born in Christian. I, you know, I'm not someone who like considers myself either of those anymore, but I have no qualms with like Christians or Catholics or anything like that, especially if, if it seemed like, like if you're someone out there who claims to be Christian and then you are like spewing so much fucking hate at people. I'm like, this is so anti-Christian of you. Yeah. Like this is, uh, uh, you know, like to, to, to hate anybody even if

even if yeah it's just that's that's what I mean is like there's a lot as much as living like Christian America Christian America often seems to be a really ugly place towards people who are they find different

or don't live the life that they like the idea of being Christian is you're supposed to accept every fucking person yeah you're not supposed to homogenize the world in your own image and I feel like yeah like religions get a bad rap and it is a tricky part of humanity but I think any

any religious belief that gets you reflecting on yourself and reflecting on what you can do in the world and trying to move and act better towards yourself, towards everyone is beautiful. Absolutely. And there are a lot of schools of thought that can do that and religion is one. It just is in the unfortunate position to have been galvanized for a lot of nefarious purposes

and now we have this cultural association. But yeah, and I mean as much as Superman is sort of a mappable Moses allegory, It's also, you know, yeah, there are a lot of Christ-like ideals that I think the character strives to bring. L.D., thank you so much for chiming back in. Anyone notice Daily Planet was set in the 70s slash 80s? Do you mean that, like, the building itself? Like it got established then?

Did not notice that. Oh, no, I don't know. Yeah, I was going to say. It's weird because the vibe of the movies on 70s or 80s at all. It feels more like 40s, 50s, retro sci-fi, the way Metropolis looks. Yeah, and even the second you see Hammer, Baravia, you know, like a lot. lot of it feels like that like old yeah old school atomic age stuff or something that's the more for atomic age yeah and uh and yeah even the daily planet building there and looks like it's

you know historical uh but this initially yeah i'm curious to to pull in more more details uh of that variety ron h thank you for chiming in what do you guys think are the chances of eventually getting a super ultra preview director's edition of the film we're going to put back almost three hours of extra story content footage L.O.L. Has he confirmed that there is almost three hours of a... I know a lot more movies than you would imagine

rough cut at like five hours and then get pared down. So like I can imagine there being a lot more here and given the way the movie moves to some degree, I can imagine that, but I'm also not totally sure if there's like, yeah, like a whole other movie's worth of content for him

to draw from him. I mean he's really he's really big on, he's not known for releasing extended cuts and he's really big on like trimming like the term is like trimming down fat no fat at all it seems like he wants to trim that in the script phase and it's like he's like that with all his movies no fat he loves to keep it that way and i think that's why his movies are often super duper engaging so no the odds of like a very long version no but i definitely think there's like 15 and 20 minutes of deleted scenes yeah or even like moments or even like scenes that are there that are probably longer and lines are cut.

Yeah, totally. Although, I can't recall, like, normally in trailers, a lot of times we see movies where I'm like, oh, this trailer, this moment in the trailer is not in the movie. This moment in the trailer is not in the movie. And I can't, I don't recall anything. Like, I've scrubbed the footage so many times for all the videos we've been doing.

I don't recall, like, seeing anything in there where I'm like, oh, this moment's not in the trailer. Yeah, like, maybe shots are swapped out for, like, a different take or something like that. because I know he said, like, oh, that shot that we, the big controversial flying shot is not even the same take we used in the movie or whatever. But that shot is definitely in the movie. The shot is definitely in the movie. Yeah.

It might look. It might, yeah, be a different look, different take, but it's there. But yeah, I would be curious to see any auxiliary footage that they have, for sure. Ismail Hamzawi is back. Thank you so much. For everyone here, please leave a like. That would mean a lot. Leave a like, this late in the stream especially.

Superman is already my favorite DC care. before this movie, but for those who like a serious, violent, and dark Batman, how do you think they'll feel about this movie, since it's kind of the opposite? I don't know if it's going to be like, I don't think this tone is for everybody now. No. Definitely not. I completely am not surprised by the critics who I love. Like, there are some people where I'm surprised by how high of a rating they gave.

Like I was actually surprised by Cosmonaut Variety Hour of like, you know, he seemed like he didn't love it, but he liked it. He gave it a pretty high rate. I think he had like an 8 out of 10 or something. It was like pretty high. I was like, that's kind of surprising. I didn't actually expect this from Cosmonaut Variety Hour for some reason. And then there's other people where I thought it would be like more embraced, but it wasn't. But I'm not surprised at all by this because I think we're kind of used to that a little bit more.

And frankly, the trailers don't convey the tone the movie actually is. like the trailers are great trailers but the trailers definitely make it feel like it's probably going to be a little more serious you know yeah totally i really thought that i i didn't realize uh like it looked fun but it felt like it might be more serious yeah i mean i don't think this does anything that prohibits you from having a dark and violent batman i think even dark even dark can come with colors yeah and flavors you know and uh and again he has said that the movies are all going to be totally different for whatever suits each project. So dark Batman seems totally possible. And there's definitely scenes that, you know, you take seriously, you know. Yeah, and it seems like Batman especially, I mean, they've got the else. If the Batman stays in Elseworld, you'll have that flavor for at least two more movies anyway.

For sure, for sure. Raccoon Shampoo once again. Thank you so much. My dad has historically been a Superman hater. So I'm actually glad he's been the one defending the movie from my critiques. It's a good sign. That's very fun. And when anybody can have fun debating the things they don't see eye to eye on, I think.

That's a joyous part. As much as everybody, I think, wants to share an agreement. It's a joyous part to debate lightheartedly. There's so many people in this stream, this entire time we've been live, who bring up their parents. Their parents' opinions or their connection to their parents. It's a family movie without being for kids. I think kids could totally watch this. But it's not for kids.

You know what I mean? Like, there's a difference between... All kids don't want a harems. Yeah. All kids want one. But, yeah, like, it's definitely... It's without hampering itself. It's absolutely, like, for the most part, family movie, which is really cool.

For anyone who's just popping in, Koi, I had to leave a few hours ago. And Roxy left about 20 minutes ago. Yeah, so you just got to... We're finishing out the stream, and then we got a couple of stream laps to go through as well. Lindsay, thank you so much for chiming in. The friend I was with... didn't like it and thought Lex was the worst part. I don't get it.

Lex was one of the highlights for me. Also, happy birthday, Roxy. And Roxy says, uh, what is it? Roxy says, thank you. Uh, it's funny.

So you guys, you guys went and watched Manistee. What? Or BVS. Sorry. That's the one with Lex Luthor. It was a joke. I tried to make a joke, but it's been five hours. Yeah. And you've been here longer than me. I don't. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I loved Lex in this, and I'm excited to see his performance the second time. I thought Nicholas Holt really took hold of it. But again, this is a kind of a movie where I feel like the differing opinions is weird. Sometimes you hear differing opinions, and even though you respect people's perspectives, you're like, I don't see that at all. And in this movie, I can kind of see the I like this or I don't like this for a lot of things.

yeah and it's kind of it's weird it's one of those movies where i'm like that's okay like if you don't like half this stuff but you liked this half of stuff like that's cool i get it you know i'm surprised by uh but the common thing i am hearing though with people that they wanted more to understand lex better yeah um that that seems to be the common thing here or more actual like character intimacy and i could see how he's like uh formidable um but do i find him scary no No. Not necessarily. And I mean, too, again, as a, if you know stuff about Superman, you're like, well, he's going to triumph over Lex Lutel.

For sure. But yeah, Lindsay, thank you so much. Sci-Fi extremist. Hey, buddy. And thank you for chiming into so many. We answer questions from our Royal Rejects on the reaction review videos, and you are constantly chiming into those two. So thank you so much for all your support. With family today, so can't watch live.

Wanted to say quick, how much you guys mean to me. Thank you. Yeah, seriously, dude. I love watching movies alongside you with your reactions as well as the pod. Superman is hands down my favorite comic book film, by the way. No question. Well, we got a lot more pod stuff coming in. Oh, yeah.

Get ready. And more live streams now that this is moving. Got an interview with Brandon Davis coming up on Friday and a couple more podcasts of Coy and a podcast with Roxy. I don't know, somehow we was doing suddenly spontaneously too. It's not like, hey, we should do this, got a plan. It just should have started like coming to mind that we want to do. So, thank you.

Thank you for popping in here. Thank you for being a royal regic. Thanks for constantly supporting us, man. Thank you. And the fact this is one of your favorites. Because like we gave like crazy high praise through this movie. So to see how many people are actually echoing the same sentiment makes me really happy

especially after the fucking week it's been. It's nice to be in this part of the week, this part of the cycle, this conversation, and to have so much joy, even when disagreeing. Yeah. And even when you're streaming for five hours. Even when you're running on a few. I hope your family's doing well, though, if you happen to watch this back at any point. Aidan Dardy again, Jesus. Thank you so much for being so generous today. God damn. Thank you, man. I am in Alaska. Thank you. Holy shit, really? Oh my God. Thank you. Damn. All right. Saw the Amazon early screening and also saw it yesterday again. I loved it.

and so did my screening, round of applause, both times at the end. And yesterday, people were yelling for Jimmy to tell Eve yes when she asked to hang out. Oh, wow, really? That's funny. That's cool. Even out in Alaska, man, I'm glad people were showing out. God, I would way, I'm so drawn to the idea of being in an opening weekend in a state that's not California. Or specifically Los Angeles, too.

Yeah, yeah. Because Los Angeles were like movie cinema city. So it. So we're jaded. It's like every rock concert in L.A. Nobody moves. And everyone's a fucking critic when you walk out. You know, like everyone.

It's just so common. It's rare you see people who go to like the opening night or not fucking like being a reviewer. It's just part of the, it's part of the community here. It's part of the vibe here, the culture of Los Angeles. It's really common. And it's not a bad thing. It'd just be kind of refreshing. It'd be like somewhere like Alaska where I would not expect a crowd like that

be from my limited knowledge of Alaska. And to hear that is really awesome. Yeah, I've never had that experience of being outside of L.A. and going to an opening night. I've never had that, and I would love to actually experience that, especially something crazy like that. So thank you. Thank you.

I've never been to Alaska, but you've been so generous this entire stream, man. Thank you, Aidan. Seriously, thank you. Yeah, thank you so much. And, oh, my God, we'll have to do a refresh, but I think we've reached the top of the super chats. Thank you, Stephanie Horton. for this adorable little doggy.

That's a very cute little. Thank you, Stephanie. Is that a corgi? Hell yeah. All right. Well, groovy. We're going to refresh the stream labs and do the last round of questions

and then we release you into the world to go see Superman 10 more times. So from my end here, I will count. I'm getting really hungry. I mean, you could just eat on camera. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. We've got ten more.

Ten more. We'll actually pop into the live stream for a bit and yeah. All right. Let's see. Let's see. Okay, so we're on July 12th. Yes, yes, yes. Kevin Meek is there.

All right. With a very generous one too. Thank you. Kevin. Oh, let me readjust me over here. Anyway, while I read this. Kevin Meek, thank you so much. Let me scroll to you as well so that we got you on screen.

There we go. Yeah. Kevin Meek, just a thought. But I think the major thing that sets this movie and Superman apart from the rest are Ma and Paw Kent. Seeing Clark at home will be a major part of building the DCU. They were that important, in my opinion, and my favorite part of the movie. Absolutely. I mean, they're really lovely.

And again, even, again, like I wasn't expecting necessarily the way that they characterized, especially Ma. But I really loved, like, I really loved that because I really loved that. again, it felt like a flavor and a choice, and then you also have all the heartfelt, you know, aspects of the fact that they are his mentors, you know, both of them are his mentors and, you know, his examples for just how to be and how to move in this world that is foreign to his lineage. Well, I think a lot of the experience of them is seen through the eyes of Lois Lane, actually. Sure, yeah. Even though she's not there for that scene with him and Jonathan, but when she does go on the farm,

I think it is a dawn of realization. It's a dawn of justice. It's a realization of like, oh, this is who he really is. And she's seeing that. And so I like that they, like, you get a tease of them early on, but I like that you actually don't really spend time with them until much later in the movie. And then the ending moment still has a really profound effect, too, when looking at all the footage, because you're kind of working backwards.

You're seeing Superman at first. Like, this movie starts off with Superman, and then you get to know Clark Kent. the more of the movie goes on to the point where he's just stripped down to his pure humanity by the end and he's a perfect like marriage of both Superman and Clark. There's a really lovely way to put them. Just took me five hours to figure out the movie.

It's okay. And then the next question from Kevin Meek. All righty, let's scroll it up. Oh yeah, there we go, Kevin. All right. Just shooting, just showing support. Oh, my goodness. You guys have been kicking ass, keeping up with all the content you put out.

together individually has been cool. Thank you. I see all the hard work and use it for fuel myself. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, Kevin Meek. You've been an amazing supporter for us for such a long time. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. That's a very kind donation. Thank you. Chris C. One of three. I just wanted

to show some appreciation for you guys. I really identify with the sentiment Greg put forward in a recent video of always having to put effort in to go against instinctual negativity. This channel and all of the rejects have given me a positive outlet to experience

fandoms and love for film and TV. Superman was always a character that bored me because he is such a Boy Scout, but having listened to your opinions these past few months, I've begun to remember how much I loved him as a kid like coy. I was apprehensive to believe his optimism leading up saying the film will inspire

hope, but he was right. Boom, boom. Absolutely. Love what all of you represent. Do you? Parasite, Brainiac, Zod, medalo, or Doomsday in the future at all or something new?

I mean, we haven't had Brainiac. Brainiac would be sick and that's one that like the movies I have yet to really. Yeah, that's my mind. Yeah. I mean, we've, I think it would be good to do Doomsday properly for sure. That'd be really cool. Zod has been done a lot. But Brainiac, we haven't yet had Parasite would be an amazing addition to. but I'm feeling more of I feel like parasites more of a medium probability

not a high probability I feel like parasite would probably be like maybe not a main villain but like pop up somewhere somehow and then Brainiac I think would be a really high probability considering the tech side the alien collector's the woman of tomorrow setting up more of like

the space fairing elements in the DC universe bring us Brainiac 5 Zod might just I feel like I feel like we could take a little bit of break from Zod Yeah I feel like we should build up to that

Me Mattalo if I'm not mistaken James Gunn has praised him as being one of as being one of his favorite Superman villains and he's got like tech based krypton eye powers and it could challenge Superman in a very like creative way

But Doomsday you probably have to save Doomsday to probably do the death of Superman just do the second or third movie I feel like you'd have to probably do it a little bit later That's got to be a culminative I don't know if they'll have phases But you know something akin to like an Avengers movie

I'm really feeling Brainiac though I think Brainiac has been a big calling for him And I think there's all the All the seeds they've planted And threads that are weaving And then even where Supergirl goes Brainiac just seems like a perfect villain To introduce

He seems like an absolutely perfect villain I'd be very excited for some Brainiac in these movies. And they, yeah, and like a perfect, like, this is the big bad of the movie character. And to hear all the positive comments, too, of how they're actually, like, the open-mindedness of it, I really do appreciate that. And, you know, I've been trying to stay a little bit less with comments

because I'm seeing how it's affecting my mentality. So to see some of the, when you guys are saying specific things that I've said, I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot I actually said that. That means a lot. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And, too, I mean, just to have the reminder of like, oh, yeah, you can be a bold. Boy Scout and also have, like, drama and problems and conflicts and all sorts of stuff.

It's been cool to see people come back to appreciation of, like, oh, yeah, like, this can be an interesting character. Definitely. Snoop Frog. Snoop Frog. Snoop Froggy Frog. I see you with the two Gs. Love it. Thank you for chiming in here.

The Absolute Run has been a big hit. Would you guys like to see James Gunn or future directors pull from those comics in the near future for the DCU? Or would you think that they would work better for, like, an Elseworld? or animated project. I haven't read the, but I have been shown a lot of art and Koi has described them to me a number of times

now, and I don't know exactly if it would fit directly into the main timeline here, but as an alternate elseworld's take, I think, really, really cool, especially having just seen Warworld, which in the animated movie form takes you to, like, there's

this like heavy metal 2000 style world where like Batman's got long hair and he's just like you know got arm wraps on it's very like tangible and grimy and it's you know like vibes like that I think are really cool and like the Wonder Woman from Absolute looks really sick

so I would love to see them do it but do you have an opinion on that I think it would a thousand percent have to be an else world I mean especially if you want to stay true to the absolute comics like the origins of them are so different and like especially I mean they could travel to the world or something like that

but you know I suppose they could evolve or if they really want to separate the Batman they could do the adaptation of Batman of where he's more of like a blue collar tech heavy vibe yeah I think you could do that but I think it would have to be in else worlds

I can't spend so much time thinking of whether you could you didn't think of what are you sure I mean there's some characters who you can get away with more I imagine of just doing absolute and adapting that into the main timeline but I think with a character even like

Batman, I feel like that'd be a little too much to ask for audiences. I think it would have to be in Alice World. Yeah. Yeah, especially. Like, it's weird. Even if you're not depicting the origin, I feel like having your main continuity Batman be so different would be kind of jarring for people in a way that would be I don't know. I think it would

be a more encroaching argument. For sure. All right. Daco, thank you so much for joining us. How do you think the DCU will handle Batman? I don't think they'll top Battenson and most fans seem to want him now. anyone they cast will be compared

I think they'll wait to see how Superman performs and if it does well they might merge the two I don't think it's impossible for them to merge but also I do kind of feel like they probably want to introduce like a definitive DCU Batman so that they

can James and company can put their stamp on this I don't know yeah I mean we were saying our opinion much earlier and at the three hour mark scrub back a few hours and find out. But I think this Batman, they cited Brave and the

Bold for a very specific reason. Like that means that Batman's been around for a while. James Gunn has hinted that Batman's already been around. He's been Superman for three years in Metropolis, but Batman might have been around longer at this point. And I imagine for the timeline submerged that Batman may have already been around longer.

Maybe Superman and Batman have already met. And I think if they're going to do the Connective Universe, I think it would be that they already have some type of knowledge of each other. I mean, the Justice Gang all knows who Clark Kent really, all know who Superman is. I wouldn't be surprised if this new Batman knows who Clark Kent is already. He's the world's greatest detective.

He'll already have a contingency plan. Sure, yeah. Even if there's a 1% chance, John. Absolutely certainty. But, yeah, I think this Batman, though, will still be, I don't think it'll be the same tone as Superman, but I think it can live more I think it might

look at Burden's the first one like it's not it's this rather serious Gothic a take on Batman but it's very much a comic and it's very much like a cartoon come to life but I wouldn't call it like like the tone of the

Superman movie so I think if there's one version that has proven you can do a comic book vibrant but darker thing I think Tim Burton proved that already decades ago that it's possible. So imagine what they could do now.

Yeah, I mean, absolutely. And I think, too, it's like you, the tone of the world can be slightly different than the tenor of, like, how Batman himself behave. Like, you could have this character who is, like, a person with a darker, grittier, more serious demeanor, and outlook in a world that is a bit more fantastical than he is. And you could probably derive some interesting,

because Batman's world is steeped in characters were all insane. and criminally so you know it's like you could have a bit of the gun tone but you could also rectify it with some kind of contrast with a dark you know leaning Batman himself

so I don't know I think you've got a lot of options there in terms of how to handle them you can merge the tones anyway Clybourne Davis thank you so much for chiming into the chat glad y'all loved it I thought it was great

a little fast pace for me but I like but like a comic book come to life. If the sequel takes its time and dives deeper into the characters, I would appreciate this one even more. What are your number one hopes for a follow-up? Number one hopes for

a follow-up. Damn, good question. I think James Gunn, weirdly, I feel like James Gunn would actually be willing to let another director take over. Which would be pretty interesting. But we saw three Guardians movies, and the three Guardians movies feel different from one another like there's there's enough similarities in tone and vibes where

that you could feel the unity of it but they're also very different in so many ways um especially part three i think so i i feel like james gump would take notes to heart of what he could do better and what what notes he agrees with so if anything i just want to see an improvement in the filmmaking quality like we've talked about like wanting brainiac in there i would like to see a little bit more of Clark can't be an investigative. But if anything, I would like to see something that does feel involving to something that still has like the whimsy, but also maybe a little bit more serious. That's kind of what he did with the Guardian's

movies. Like, still maintain the whimsy, but went a little bit more serious and parental. Well, yeah. I think whimsy is a nice place to start because it jumps everybody into the world in a way that's appealing and fun. And then, yeah, you can start adding more and more pathos on top of that as you go. Yeah. Because, too, that is literally an example of something maturing. Something starts out bouncier, more fun, and that is tempered

over time by experience and themes and whatever else. So, I guess my number one hopes for a follow-up or just that we get like a spotlight-type movie at the Daily Planet. For sure. That's what I want. And Daredevil as a courtroom drama. Anon, thank you so much for chiming in as well. I have to call Koi out.

Good thing he was here to hear this for spreading James Gunn lies. JKJK. But on a review, he said guns from Mississippi and seemingly got his states mixed up because guns actually from St. Louis, Missouri, different MISS state. I know because I'm also from here and our families work together. Oh, that's very cool. I would love to hear more about your familial connections there. And what kind of work y'all do together.

That's really cool, man. But yeah, we will be sure to roast Koi the next time we see him and call him a big idiot. I hope one day you get to meet him. We've had the opportunity to snap a couple of photos with him. Oh, James Gunn. Yeah, he's been really. He'll get to meet Koi. He'll get to meet Koi.

Honestly, like I talked with James Gunn for a little bit, but right before we even did the interview, and everyone tells me he's like the nicest guy. And I found him to be like, he's as nice as everyone has made him out to be. Yeah, so, yeah, thank you. Even at that little, you know, screening that we went to, you know, I just went up to say thanks, and I didn't expect him to talk to me at all, and he did. Yeah, that's cool. Never lose your nerd. I liked it, but I didn't love it.

We love that you chimed in, though. The tone was just, tone just wasn't my favorite, and I just thought it was too goofy for me. Superman literally lost every fight and didn't seem to be the most powerful being on Earth, and my wife hated that. Love you guys, as always. I feel like it's hard to win in terms. of whether if Superman's boring if he's the most powerful guy on earth or if he's not then like what's the point this is super he won the fight breaking out of the pocket dimension he won the fight against Ultraman Lex's goon showed up he beat all them up yeah I feel like Superman won I feel like he did win he took some some hits but he also gave some hits yeah and he was going up against engineer and Ultraman at once and he managed to like out with them and beat them he

He technically beat Lex with the help of the team. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I don't even think he lost the kaiju fight. Like, he wasn't losing against the kaiju. It was just the justice gang showed up, and he was just trying to capture the kaiju, but it wasn't losing the fight. Kaju wasn't kicking his ass.

Yeah, he was trying to fight. He was trying to maintain that in a way where he wouldn't have to literally obliterate this thing. Yeah. He's literally trying to fight this thing while also, like, looking out for it. Yeah. But that's fair.

Hey, you know, if you saw a different. that's part of the joy of the prism of art yeah i appreciate that we can respectfully disagree and the last one of the day someone who's been giving us a lot in the super chats always remember john please read the last one always remember wow i just woke up and they've been talking with us for five to six hours that's literally longer than zach schneider's justice league amazing we did it we made it we're here uh yeah what a day thank you for capping us off by acknowledging this immense amount of time we've been here also quick thank you to oscar salis and sean holton for these lovely super stickers oh thank you didn't see that coming thank you at the end yeah just got a couple little last one so much gonna do one more round of refreshes just to make sure we've got all the things thank you um we did it guys we actually do have one more stream lab oh we do yep uh from here we go

Sean Holton. Loved it. Thank you, Sean. Took me a minute to get over the tonal whiplash in the first act, but once it settled in, I was just completely invested. I was actually rooting for soups to get back up and as a 40-year-old rock star,

that was a special feeling. Damn. You are a 40-year-old rock star? That's crazy. And that's part of the... That's part of the... Like, even with metamorpho and stuff, like the fact that people take

more chances justice gang metamorpho other individuals the people who baravia was going up against people will take more chances because they're inspired by superman i think it's such a great effect beyond just superman to and it all himself you know so i'm happy to hear that man and yeah i get it i i've said it a few times it took me like a while to adjust to the first act yeah um but afterwards it was after the scene in the apartment with the debate where i was pretty much settled in but thank you man Thank you for me on our last one of the day. Thank you for everyone who's contributed. Absolutely.

I hope the chat still being very respectful. We are all respected in this chat, all right? I hope so. Kind of scared to dive in. But thank you so much. It's okay. At least you don't have to worry about getting spoiled. We learn that Superman has a bladder.

Never knew. Oh, well, you know, I guess so. Yeah, that's one piece of canon. We can now confirm Super P. Yeah, that's another thing, too. With finding against Ultraman, he needed the help of crypto as well. well because like Superman is fighting against Lex who has the control of Ultraman and his program with like a billion moves you know like it's a little bit difficult so he needs

the help but yeah thank you guys who have been here in this entire stream this is like a very epically long stream of ours um is very so much generosity here we wanted we don't like to end streams without answering every question that comes in from the superchats and streamlands we didn't expect to have so many we didn't expect to have so many before we have them in life um so thank you for overwhelming us in the most positive ways if you weren't able to contribute dude that's totally okay and we're just happy that you're able to be here thanks for your eyeballs and your enthusiasm and uh to be part of the community side where it's like mainly positive uh i feel like we are very very fortunate i feel like that's really good

for the soul and i'd rather be there you know like obviously there's ways where you think like it seems like if you like kind of rage baby it could be easier to get views and shit but for the mentality and the soul. I don't mean wrong sometimes being positive is the thing that actually gets the views, but beyond like views and you ignore all that, just it's really the emotional community vibe that we're just very, very grateful to have.

I want to thank Koi for being able to pop in here when he was with his family. Roxy for staying way longer than she was planned for. It's a big discussion of how long she could stay. It was originally just going to be 2 o'clock. She stayed at her till 4.30, major thanks to her. Hell yeah. Special thanks to,

people at multi-house, Joe, and Josh. Oh, Jeff. Jeff. Jeff's a PZL. Big shouts out. For helping set up this stream. John was here very, very, very late last night, and then here very, very early setting everything up. And he did an amazing job holding down this stream with any tech to errors that were coming up and the way you're able to like handle, directing, cutting back and forth. This is, this was doing this stream was a giant group effort. And John was like really the main like spearhead behind us. so much of the way we were able to do this.

And I was trying to keep it on track to end by 230, and that was a big failure of mine. But, hey, this was fun. Don't forget to leave a like on your way out. Thank you. Ken said, I see you in the chat saying that. Don't forget to leave a like on the way out. Thank you again for being here. John, any last words you want to say before we head out?

No, just thank you guys for the enthusiasm. This is for a five-hour live stream. This has been really fun, and it's flown even though it takes a toll on your body. So thank you guys for keeping us. juiced up with your energy.