The Reel Rejects - SWEENEY TODD: THE DEMON BARBER OF FLEET STREET (2007) IS DELICIOUSLY TWISTED!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

HAVE A LITTLE PRIEST!! Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street Full Movie Reaction Watch Along   / thereelrejects   Visit https://huel.com/rejects to get 15% off your order Suppor...t The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ With spooky season coming, Tara, Aaron, & Andrew take a trip to Ye Olde England to give their Sweeney Todd Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Breakdown, Ending Explained, Theories, & Spoiler Review! Tim Burton’s gothic musical masterpiece Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007) brings Stephen Sondheim’s Broadway classic to the big screen with haunting style and unforgettable performances. The film stars Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean, Edward Scissorhands) as Benjamin Barker / Sweeney Todd, a vengeful barber who returns to London to exact revenge after years of wrongful imprisonment. Helena Bonham Carter (Harry Potter, Fight Club) co-stars as Mrs. Lovett, his scheming accomplice who turns victims into her infamous meat pies. Alan Rickman (Die Hard, Harry Potter) delivers chilling authority as Judge Turpin, with Timothy Spall (Harry Potter, Secrets & Lies) as the slimy Beadle Bamford, Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat, Les Misérables) as flamboyant rival barber Pirelli, and Jayne Wisener as Johanna, Todd’s daughter. With Tim Burton’s signature gothic visuals, Danny Elfman’s atmospheric score, and Sondheim’s legendary songs like “The Ballad of Sweeney Todd,” “A Little Priest,” and “Johanna”, the film has become a cult classic. Key moments such as Sweeney’s first chair-side kill, the shocking reveal of Lucy’s fate, and the grisly finale with Mrs. Lovett cement the film as one of Burton’s darkest and most operatic achievements. Hosts Tara Erickson, Aaron Alexander, and Andrew Gordon dive into the film’s chilling themes of vengeance, love, and tragedy while breaking down its iconic performances, songs, and unforgettable gothic imagery. Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 All right, you guys, without further ado, I'm ready to get into the movie. How are you guys feeling? I'm good. I'm ready. Ready, Aaron, let's watch this movie that I'm not in. Let's go. You guys, we just finished watching. watching Sweeney Todd.
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Starting point is 00:01:37 Looks like we have a thick boy A lot of questions But before we get into it And just like a couple sentences so So we don't double tread waters here What should I sing in the movie Great film Beautiful Andrew
Starting point is 00:01:51 Great film Yeah no I really It was a good film I particularly like I liked all the performances, first and foremost. I love the atmosphere that Tim Burton created, the Gothic-like atmosphere. And I think Johnny Depp, he brought a lot of emotional intensity
Starting point is 00:02:09 to such a tragic figure who was completely wronged. His whole life was taken from him, basically, his family, his wife, his daughter, and this revenge that he wanted to get on Alan Rickman's character was warranted. And we as an audience backed him, but also too, like this piece of his soul that he felt he needed closure on to get for his family, he lost everything in search of this justice.
Starting point is 00:02:42 So it's just, it's an interesting, you know, pathos that happened to him in search of this justice. So it was really, again, very tragic story, awesome film, a sad film, awesome film at the same point, too, and it's incredibly executed film. I loved Helen Bonham Carter. Obviously, we found out everything she did was because she wanted this man so badly she was willing to do anything. She had her own self-interest at heart,
Starting point is 00:03:07 but I love how twisted her humor or twisted her charm was and how darker humor was. She was able to kind of like a little bit with Sasha Brown-Cone's character, I apologize if I said his name wrong, by the way. I just like how it was able to kind of levity out some of the bleakness and how dark the film was,
Starting point is 00:03:25 so give it a little bit of that balance. And Alan Rickman, God rest his beautiful soul, he is one of my favorite actors ever. I love how menacing and corrupt he was as this character, and he just has this commanding tone and presence, whatever film he's in. He could be in the worst movie ever, not that this was, this was a great movie, and he always brings his, broad as A-game, performance-wise, and he was incredible in this film. So, yeah, and also, too, last thing, and then I'll get your thoughts. I really love the relationship between Vecna and, or Anthony, rather, and Joanna. I think it brings, like, an innocent counterpoint to the rest of the story because, you know, you got the corruption with Alan Rickman and then, like, you know, the loss of soul that they're willing to do anything now,
Starting point is 00:04:11 even kill other people who have nothing to do with what happened to Johnny Depp. So, again, I think it was a nice, like I said, innocent counterpoint to the rest of the story, that relationship. And I also really like the movie. So we're going to get into the questions. Kayla, the king, this is a great impulse to have. More, is that us? Start here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Terry Mack. I love Johnny Jep in this film and was wondering, do you think he still has a career after so much bad press with Amber Hurd? If he was starring in the new film, would you still want to see it? Thank you. I did honestly, I did not. follow any of the Amber herd Johnny Depp stuff so I don't know much about it to make a comment on it. Well I will
Starting point is 00:04:58 tell you is I think Johnny Depp is a very talented actor so if there is a film that he's in and I'm asked to cover it I will check it out and I will watch it because I think he brings a lot of nuance to his performances. I think he does a great job and also he's always willing to get into makeup
Starting point is 00:05:14 and do that so I appreciate his willingness to really go deep into his characters but I always usually enjoy a Johnny Depp performance over film, so I would see one. No, Tara. Yes, I would. So Amber heard a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:30 cuckoo, lied a lot, chat in his bed. Do your research on the actual case. There's a reason why he was not guilty. And I know that a lot of stuff, though, came about, which is why a lot of companies before the truth
Starting point is 00:05:46 fully came about, sort of left him behind and he wasn't shooting. But now that his name is clear, I would see anything that he's in. I think he's a brilliant actor, and I watched a lot of the case on TV. And I saw, you know, him on the stand, and he did not lie about, like, mean text
Starting point is 00:06:12 or certain stuff that he did. He didn't lie about any of that. But he definitely shared and brought a light to all the weird things that Amber Hurd did during their relationship. And yeah, if you're interested, Terry Mac, go check it out. But yes, I would, of course, watch anything that he's in because he didn't really do anything wrong that Amber Hurd was accusing him
Starting point is 00:06:38 a lot of stuff. So, yes, I would see it. Yeah, Terry Mac, I would love to see more Johnny Depp. I think he's a phenomenal talent and I've enjoyed his films, a lot of the ones that I've watched my personal life, but all the ones that I've watched here. So, yeah, I think it's about time. we had a renaissance of Johnny Depp. Bring him back to Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Damn it. Thank you for the question. Appreciate you. Angela Vince. Yes, we need Todd. Awesome. This movie, I think, they're using H.H. Holmes, who was a real serial in the 1800.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Damn. Oh, shoot. Did not know that. Thank you for reminding me. He owned a hotel and was killing people in the same way. I love you guys. Fuck those people who talk stupid. it shit keep it going
Starting point is 00:07:24 make my day thank you angela we really appreciate you you're a real one you make our day with amazing comments like that angela and uh this is what gives me trust issues like hotel owners are even doing this to people I can't go to the hotels now guys
Starting point is 00:07:40 I can't go to the barber shops I don't know where I can go anymore that was in the 1800s I know how do I know it's still not happening here don't know don't trust those hotel years this is why I have trust issues Oh, my God. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Well, now we're on to Melissa Taylor. Melissa Taylor, thank you, sending the questions. We appreciate you. Hey, guys. Love this musical. I was surprised to learn the character of Sweeney Todd first appeared as a villain and a Victorian penny dreadful published in 1846. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I also thought this was a Tim Burton original, so thank you for enlightening me. uh the subject matter seems to be uh antithesis an antithesis to thank you for that uh to what most people have come to expect movie musicals to be uplifting romantic somewhat cheesy etc can you think of any other darker theme stories that you'd like to see a musical version of that's a great question avengers infinity war yep i want to see that uh i have to think about that darker theme films it would be weird if hereditary was turned into a musical that would be insane you said it earlier I mean I don't want like want to watch those movies but like saw his musicals
Starting point is 00:09:02 that'd be fascinating that would be great that would be great yeah they actually may saw the musical oh really yeah I mean it's not a movie but it's like a stage show oh my god it's good yeah it's some of I'd love to see Nightmare in Elm Street the musical or that'd be
Starting point is 00:09:18 awesome watching Freddy Kruger singing as he's taking out his victims of the most inventive, horrific ways. I want to see that. Someone make that movie places. Are there war musicals? Is that a thing? I don't know any point of war. Actually, no.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I mean, late Mays is a war musical. So technically. I don't know. Is there a COVID musical? Oh, God. That would be a little interesting. But no, horror movie musicals would be really fun you know something like a look out for like a freddie the musical you know like a dark little nightmare stranger things the musical could be fun that would be great
Starting point is 00:09:56 yeah that'd be great some stranger things over here we are obsessed no let's go let's go weird we don't have any sci-fi musicals out there so we would i would love to see alien earth musical beautiful alien earth musical um a movie i don't know if it would get feels but i think a movie that'd be really fun for you guys to watch is Anna and the Apocalypse. It is a zombie Christmas musical. Oh, wow. Yeah. That sounds fun. Let's react to it immediately.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah, so if you guys want to see us do Anna and the Apocalypse, let us know in the comments. But, Melissa, thank you for the question. Thanks, Melissa. I appreciate you. All right, Cassidy, Tera, and Andrew. Yes, Cassidy.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Recognize the guy that was in love with Joanna from anywhere. L-O-L. I mentioned it during the reaction that... Right at the top. Anthony might look a little like Vecna. Yeah. Maybe. Good call.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You called it like from frame one. Yeah. We just... You really did. We literally just watched it, so I would hope I'd recognize him. So, as Tara would say, encyclopedia. Nothing gets past this man. So, yes, we did see that.
Starting point is 00:11:08 All righty. We're going on to the next one. Just a Girl 329. Hello, my reject friends. I hope you guys are all doing well. Do you feel... How do you feel about Sweeney Todd's quest for revenge? Do you feel any sympathy for him?
Starting point is 00:11:25 What do you think about Tim Byrne's visual style and dark gothic atmosphere he created for London? And we can go on to the next questions. I'll answer. I definitely felt sympathy for him. I mean, we literally established that in the first five, ten, ten, fifteen minutes or so. we see a little bit of the flashback of his back story with his wife, his daughter.
Starting point is 00:11:48 You have a corrupt judge who pines for his wife's interest and does disgustingly nefarious evil things and also is very corrupt evil human being as well and sends off this man, an innocent man and steals his family, his life, his innocence. He literally lost everything. So from that perspective, 100% I felt sympathy. Now, when he came back, again, I think we were all, and I can imagine most people are on board with the revenge of Alan Rickman and the judge. I was even fine with him taking out Sasha Brown, Baron Cohen, whatever you say is mostly. Because when you abuse and actually physically hit a child like that, I was okay with that as well.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But then the whole thing about just taking out anyone at that point was like, okay, now we're probably going a little bit too far. in regards to Tim Burton's visual style and the dark gothic atmosphere I mean yeah Tim is one of the best ever I mean you really understand I think that was kind of like a character in itself in the film is the actual atmosphere like it
Starting point is 00:12:55 I mean like it almost I didn't even realize we were in line it just it was mesmerizing to look at every shot so beautiful and meticulous the way he had the cinematography the reflective shots the tracts the tracking shots, the animation
Starting point is 00:13:11 that he was doing at the beginning. Everything was just so beautifully done when it comes to the atmosphere. He really captures that feel of this entire place. So it just felt Gothic and very active and worn down and all that, but it was very well done. Yeah. Tara.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, I mean, not to like go over all the stuff that Andrew said, you know, I agree with it. Obviously, you feel sympathy with him from the top. But then when he starts killing, like, innocent people, it's fun to watch because you're in a horror practical effects are really good the blood's fun um and you know once you get to the end of it and you're like oh yeah because they were going to kill
Starting point is 00:13:50 that kid but that kid gets to kill him um because when he's singing when he's like nothing's going to harm you to her you're like oh my god no he's going to kill sweetie todd and sweetie won't get his revenge like you're still on sweetie todd's side a little bit because i didn't want the kid to kill him yet but then finally once we're down there and he's there and he realizes it's his wife. It's the best time for him to go. And via the hands of the kid, I kind of, I liked that storyline. I mean, it's pretty savage, but I like that a lot. And like I said at the top, the atmosphere, I thought the coloring was really great. And I think they used paintings a lot like in the in the background. Instead of like,
Starting point is 00:14:36 it didn't look clear like special effects um it looks like artist strokes if you get really far um when we're in the city you don't really get that but possibly in the sky and certain buildings in the background so i thought they did a brilliant job yeah no i did feel for him at first you know there's a really messed up thing that happened to him and when i thought that they were just going to go after rich people for half a second i was like yeah this makes sense to go after the people that had did his wife wrong i'm like yeah i'm for this let's go john wick barbara style but then they're like no we're just gonna take everybody out i was like oh no this is just a a really dark uh musical about a serial killer uh who's just you know any and all you know and then in return her business was thriving because they were feeding pie people pie to the the the civilians and and business was a booming and i was like this is just bad all around this is just bad all around this is bad because she was deceptive towards Sweeney and you know he was just killing anybody in his wake because he couldn't he was just so hurt and broken didn't couldn't get to have his daughter and then you know justice kind of comes in at the end and you you realize he realizes that all of this violence and murder is something that you know started from a uh a place of love but ultimately even burned the things that he considered dear in that state of
Starting point is 00:16:13 traumatic loss so it's yeah it's a cautionary tale it's a sad tale sure but yeah i really enjoyed it and also the visual style was really uh specific and you know it really added to the tone of what he was feeling emotionally and then you contrast that with helen bottom carter's character when she's having that fantasy and everything's all light and you see that there he's still the only thing that's still dark and all this light and beauty then flashback and slowly transitioned back into reality where things are still bleak and dark and pale
Starting point is 00:16:48 and yeah there is no happy ending for these people and I'm happy that the play slash movie ended the way that it did for sure and I think too the film did a really good job on executing that when even though we were behind Johnny Depp's character with getting revenge on the evil people who had caused him such horrific, you know, grief in his life and had done such injustice to him that the little humanity left in his soul that he had because he had made revenge his entire life, you know, it kind of, that had literally, that had
Starting point is 00:17:26 become his life. And now he was just doing it on anyone because that's all he knew anymore. So, you know, it's just, like you said, it's a very cautionary tale that, you know, when you make something your whole life, that's all you know. It's just, I felt bad. I actually felt really bad for him. Yeah, and Just a Girl, 3.29, another question. Did you have a favorite song?
Starting point is 00:17:47 I know what Aaron's favorite song was. Nothing's going to harm you, not while I'm around. That was stuck in my head. I feel you. No, no, I'm just kidding. Johanna. I'm going to. steal you
Starting point is 00:18:06 well I shove my face into your yellow hair let me watch you through the window there girl I love you I promise I won't scare you Mike that's Vecna singing that song I don't think I might go with Tara that
Starting point is 00:18:25 because she really but she also like she really did want a family so like it was kind of tragic too in that perspective also. I like that one. I like all the songs that have that, I don't know, the musical motif of the one that was in her fantasy.
Starting point is 00:18:42 She's like, oh, Missal Toe, I'm so happy. I was like, every time we hear that one, I was like, yes, I like this. This pleases my ears. This scratches my brain in a good way. But I think the one where she was having her fantasy, is probably my favorite song of the movie. Also, just finish out her question slash, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:01 patron. Sorry, I know that was a lot of questions. it's okay girl you're giving us good conversations we appreciate you thank you again for all you do you really are great group of people we appreciate much love lisa thank you Lisa we appreciate it you send into questions we appreciate you all right um um just top one right okay um phoebe kins i think i said that right sorry if i miss said it uh this question is on behalf of my sister who adores the musical. This is a story with much darkness.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yes, juxtaposed with some of the most alluring melodies I've ever heard. Which song provided the most visceral reaction for you? I think we know. And did it align with the intensity of the moment reflected in film? You know, I think the one that had the most visual reaction for me, I think it was pretty obvious on this reaction. His creepy little love ballad. I understand the intention.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, no, the intention was sweet. But like, if you change the context and there's just like some guy in an alley who just like he was like middle age and he's just like watching someone in New York, it's creepy. It's creepy lyrics. But, you know, within the context, he's young, they're in love. It's romantic. Yeah. But that's my answer.
Starting point is 00:20:33 What do you guys, Andrews, do you have a song that was a very visceral reaction for you? I'm trying to think. Do you have one terror while I'm thinking? I like when they're like, pretty women, that song, and they do the harmony, and he's just slitting throats all over the place. It's a great time. That's the juxtaposition. They're talking about pretty women. It's just slice, slice, slice. It's a good time. I'm thinking the one where he was about to slice Alan Rickman's throat the first time, and I forgot this. that's pretty woman oh okay but i agree with you if i didn't say the one that was obvious i would say pretty woman because i like the the whimsical nature of that song coupled with the dark implications of what is about to happen i think it it toes that line really effectively totally
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Starting point is 00:22:52 all right a man roby barb barb bobar pirate hey guys how's it good going. It's going well. Thank you for asking the question, man. First off, condolences to Andrew and his father. Thank you. I appreciate it. Second, I have three questions for you for this awesome movie. One, which one of your music, which one is your favorite musical and why? Two, which one is your favorite Johnny Depp and Alan Rickman performances? And three, did this movie feel like a Harry Potter slash fantastic guest reunion or an Alice in Wonderland reunion Keep up to go to work and Q
Starting point is 00:23:36 Ciao. Ciao. I know French stuff. This time not from Sundaria. Sardinia. Thank you. But from TEDx Northern Quarter and Manchester. Thank you. I totally forgot that Johnny Depp was in the fantastic. I'm just lexed guys. You're good. I totally forgot Johnny Depp when I kept saying There's a lot of Harry Potter actors in here. I forgot Johnny Depp was in the first Fantastic Beats. So that is a good...
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'm going to go with Harry Potter Fantastic Beat Reunion. I'll go with that. That sounds good to me. Which ones are your favorite Johnny Depp and Alan Rickman performance? Well, Alan Rickman, Galaxy Quest and Die Hard for sure. Favorite Johnny Depp performance? I'd say the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie. I loved him so much as Jacksboro.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But why is all the rum gun? And then also I would say Edward Cisorham. just his innocence and just he came out and know it was the first film I ever saw him in and I just I've loved him so much and also it started up the team up of him and Tim Burton and then which is one is your favorite musical and why I think we've answered that a few times already right did we say what our favorite oh wait favorite musical in general yeah the question oh okay I thought it was favorite musical in the film I think Chicago and it's between Chicago and it's between Chicago and the greatest show. I really like the greatest showman a lot. The reason I would say maybe greatest showman, if not Chicago, is because I think, like, the, the, the tale about being very careful about how much you, how much is enough, you know, and just like, you've got to walk that fine line about, like, uh, knowing when, when the limit is on what is enough for us. So I think that, and also I thought Hugh Jackman is just so incredible. And
Starting point is 00:25:23 Zach Ephron they were it was just I love that film I love the visuals I love the songs I love everything about that movie and it was just a great movie to react and experience with Greg so I would probably say that film yeah to Rao um I would say that my favorite musical on film if you're asking would be a Milan Rouge uh Nicole Kidman and even Rueger are phenomenal like those are the that's the kind of voice and songs that I like like singing to where you're belting and It's a little bit of rock. It's more metal soprano.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's not so like, this one is like extra soprano aria kind of a thing. And the songs in there are freaking just brilliant. Like, dude, Ewan McGregor opens his mouth and I get goosebumps. Like, go watch it. Have you haven't seen it? I have not. And Johnny Depp, I mean, Edward Cisorhands is such a, it's great.
Starting point is 00:26:21 but also if you've like seen chocolate he does a great performance in that too but i i would say edward cisterhands is like more iconic alan rickman i guess i would always go with you know harry potter but i'm gonna instead of saying that basic ass answer i'm gonna go with love actually he's i love that movie and Alan Rickman is great in it. He's great. And I do agree that it does feel like
Starting point is 00:26:54 a Harry Potter, Fantastic Beast Matchup. Okay. I'm going to go, for the first question, it's tough. So I'm going to go like my top three. So I'm going to say number three would be
Starting point is 00:27:12 wicked. I just want to start. channel bald like a freaking baby though he's heard still gotta see it and I there you go yeah hit those notes second will be Hamilton and first favorite music of all time
Starting point is 00:27:28 is Le Miserop love love that movie and I can't wait for people to react to it on this channel I've seen one out of three and I hope you get to experience the other two yes I'd be nice which one's my favorite Johnny Depp performance I'd probably go
Starting point is 00:27:41 Jack Sparrow Hey, because he's great in that movie, and he's just so loosey-goosey. I know it's a basic-ass answer, but it's the real answer. And Alec written, Alan Rickman's performances, only, I know he's done a ton of film and has a major filmography. I don't have IM to be in front of me, so off the top of my head, this movie, we got Hans Gruber and Al and Snape. So for pure, for pure aura, as the kids say, and just the what sticks out the most of my memory. right now i'm going to say professor snape is you're like good in that movie um or in those movies there and yeah i i i've only seen the harry potter movies once five years ago in like a
Starting point is 00:28:25 fever dream binge state so i i definitely you know recognize all these people and but i don't know all the characters by names but yeah but i did watch allison wonderland on this channel with with john and yeah i definitely see all of the uh the characters there that were in the other in that film, that other Timberner film. So, yeah, it was really good to see them all together again. Just a quick way, it was it more than Johnny Depp and Helen Bonham Carter? Yeah, I believe I'll recommend it in that as well.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I haven't seen that, so I didn't know. Yeah. All righty. Yeah. Thank you for sending in the question. Appreciate you. All right. Fatal Fay,
Starting point is 00:29:07 thank you for sending any question. Do you think Swinie Todd would work as a non-musical or does it need music? if not, how would you make it work? I think the story was compelling enough as is, and I think the characters were rich as they were as well. But I think the music does help progress the story and drive the narrative forward as well as progress the characters.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So I think the music is necessary in this case, but I still think, again, the story is good enough even that it doesn't need the music, but I think it is necessary. What about you? so it's a pretty basic straightforward story right about revenge if you didn't have the music the music makes it it strings out the time a lot longer because we're busy getting into songs and how people feel and you're able to express via music and in musicals how you actually feel without it being like totally weird um so if if they tried to make this work i think without the music you'd
Starting point is 00:30:11 have a 45-minute short film. So I think it needs the music to carry through with the emotion that wouldn't, it would feel too weird if it was just a written monologue, even though the writing would still be good. It wouldn't come across as sweet or as well-intentioned, I don't think. And obviously it would have to go by in a flash or you would really be making it linger with dialogue or exposition that didn't matter and that would be a bit of a snooze? I think it could work as a traditional film
Starting point is 00:30:48 and I feel like the way you'd expand upon what's already here to replace what the musical ads would be to expand upon the characters and expand upon what it means for him to be in London this time, expand upon his pain, give more time to who he was before the events of the present day happen to really contrast and highlight the loss that he's feeling really
Starting point is 00:31:15 get the audience on his side but also allow us to question his motivations more from them becoming something that's maybe more benevolent and then over the course of him losing over the course of him killing more people losing more and more of his humanity and you know just kind of becoming more unhinged so it really creates that sense of it being a cautionary tale and yeah I think you build up like some of these other side characters a little bit more
Starting point is 00:31:45 you know you build up the twist with the wife and you maybe give more to them establishing their business as well and like how that in turn is making her feel more lively and giving her a sense of hope because she has this business going I don't know I think there's some real stuff you could expand upon
Starting point is 00:32:03 that the framework of a musical doesn't necessarily allow for because it doesn't allow for it, but not necessarily to focus, but yeah, beef up the character work. Give us more context and history for the supporting characters allow us to follow his
Starting point is 00:32:19 descent from from the beginning to create a sense of contrast and show us what happens with Joanna and in Vecna. I think I'd be curious to see that. But yeah, thank you for sending in the question. Appreciate you. Audrey Mayors, thank you
Starting point is 00:32:35 so much. Aubrey. Aubrey. I'm so sorry, Aubrey. I have a really dark sense of humor sometimes. Same, dude. And exceptional. I'm dyslexical. I'm dyslexic. Did I tell you that? Love for puns and reactors. Never find the song about the different flavors of pie as amusing as I do. I'm curious for you guys. Was it funny or too far? I thought it was hysterical and I wanted to eat the pie as I was listening to it. And I was gross, actually. but I think it fit in with the tone of the film and what the song was trying to accomplish. So I thought it worked. And I think for someone like Aaron and myself, and you, who have dark sense of humors, I think it actually, like I said, it was right, right as pie. Right as pie. What about you, Joe?
Starting point is 00:33:25 I thought it was good. I don't think it was too far. They had to name the pies, like, when you're going, like, priest or poet. I like that. I thought it was good writing. It's gross. I don't want to, like, eat them. But it's good writing.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It was gross. It was entertaining. You know, it's always fun as someone, you know, who's watching Dexter. It's always interesting seeing the mind of a serial killer and how they kind of operate and like the mental processes of how they're planning and whatnot. Totally. But yeah, they did it. They did something morbid within a lighter tone, which is a fun contrast. So, yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It gives a little levity to a dark and bleak situation. Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Aubrey. Residence Z Hello One of the first musicals I've seen question Answer
Starting point is 00:34:11 How much more violent Was the movie Than you expected I knew it was rated R But it still surprised me Oh my God Yes So much blood
Starting point is 00:34:21 And the head cracking That was the part Where I was like Oh my God The one head first And then the one guy Who was like the assistant To the bad guy
Starting point is 00:34:30 And his head splattered Like a watermelon Oh my God Doing it So I was like, I don't want to keep seeing that one time was enough. But, yeah, so Sleepy Hollow for anyone who doesn't know is one of my favorite Tim Burton movies ever. I love. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I'm not, okay, okay. I got you. Okay, I appreciate it. I knew you hadn't seen this. I wasn't going to. All right. But it's an extremely violent film. So because I've seen that movie so many times and I love that movie, I had an idea that this movie could be very violent.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But again, the head cracking part, that definitely shocked me. and the amount of times we had seen it too I was like I don't want to watch this anymore but the only thing I knew about this movie coming in it was rated art and had something to do with a barber that's all I knew what about you Tara were you shocked at the violence oh yeah it definitely was a lot more yes
Starting point is 00:35:20 than I was expecting a lot of blood a lot of gore that I was like whoa I didn't realize we were going to be like baking people and shit but yeah I loved it thought it was great gnarly baking people and shit I am yeah Thanks for the question, residency. All right, for the last two, give it over to my co-host.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Hey, Jordy's here. Thank you so much for asking the question for being a royal reject. We appreciate it. One of my favorite musicals right here in a great film adaptation. Being a stage actor, Sweeney Todd, is a bucket list role of mine to play one day on stage. This was the first film that introduced me to Johnny Depp as a singer, which I had no idea he could do at the time. Who are some actors that you like or admire that surprised you as being a singer? or some favorite actors
Starting point is 00:36:03 that have interesting different hobbies that you wouldn't originally picture for them. You know who really shocked me and surprised me although I should never be shocked at a Joaquin Phoenix
Starting point is 00:36:14 mesmerizing performance when I watched him and walked the line I was like holy shit he's a really damn good singer. I remember being either have you seen Walk the Line?
Starting point is 00:36:22 No, I've only seen him in Joker that sings. Oh, okay. Is that not him actually singing? No, I'm saying in the what's the movie you drove me mad. we were watching
Starting point is 00:36:32 Joaquin Phoenix's We were watching We were watching them like Aaron This movie's giving me anxiety Oh, Bo is afraid I made to watch Bo's afraid We couldn't even finish it It was giving me so much
Starting point is 00:36:42 I'm like Aaron I can't watch this I'm driving me insane But anyways I remember I remember being in the theater And just like The performance was incredible But like him singing
Starting point is 00:36:52 I was like I don't know much about Johnny Cash I've just heard some songs But I thought I was watch I thought he was Johnny Cash Like he really sunk into the role and I was really impressed so the actor
Starting point is 00:37:05 who plays Reacher now the tall blonde guy he's like Alan Richmond or something he's a really great singer he plays piano and he has a phenomenal voice I will say Ewan McGregor I've already talked about this but in Milan Rouge when he freaking
Starting point is 00:37:21 he's like he's just so good like shut up I was like shut the F up Ewan McGregor like what yeah he's great. Huh. Okay. Freak. It's been a minute since I've seen it, but I remember the movie Spirited came out, and that's a Christmas
Starting point is 00:37:42 musical with Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds, so I was surprised by them. But I think the biggest surprise for me was Bradley Cooper in a Star is born. I had no idea of Bradley Cook can sing before that movie came out. Also, Isabella Marcette is a really good singer. Oh, she's a great actress. She's a great actress and an amazing singer as well. She was in Snow White, right? No, she was in Last of Us part,
Starting point is 00:38:05 season two, rather. And we just watched her in Superman. She was Hot Girl. Oh, yeah, okay. Also, the girl, Bella Ramsey, was also a great singer. I had no idea that they could sing very well. Cool.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Oh, and in regards to the second portion of the question, or some favorite actors that have interesting, different hobbies you wouldn't originally picture. I don't know if I didn't originally picture, but I was surprised and I thought, holy crap he's an awesome damn nerd and a very like talented one man henry cabal when i saw him just building from scratch a freaking computer i'm like what just yeah go why there's videos of henry cabal he's just built and then he's talking to people about like processors and mine i'm like
Starting point is 00:38:45 holy shit this guy knows everything about computers wow that's cool yeah i'm like this dude's awesome i'd love to meet henry cavil love that yeah i know nick offman's a woodworker hey that's also I'm not surprising. He does seem like a lumberjack. Yeah. Thanks for a question. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Last question. Orion's Heavenly Light. G&Z's question. Which song was your favorite? Ours is both the worst pies in London. Also, my favorite episode of The Office is season seven, episode three, when Andy performs in a community theater production of Sweeney, Todd. Hope the copyright strikes are lightning up for you all, proud to be a royal reject. Thanks for being a royal reject.
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Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, this one will be a toughie because it's bloody and a musical. Yeah, it's like I can imagine editing for this one is going to be very difficult. But thank you for tuning in. We appreciate you for us and then a question. And all of you guys, thank you for watching this. reaction it's been a great time and i'm excited for the next thing oh sorry sorry one thing rotten tomatoes critics only go apologies hmm 73 82 86 wow audience 87 90 801 okay taro wins both rounds all right guys well that'll be it for us today thank you so much for watching stay out there
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