The Reel Rejects - TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2: THE SECRET OF THE OOZE (1991) IS BODACIOUSLY FUN!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Starting point is 00:00:00 I think I got all the things. Without further ado, you're ready to get turtly tubular today? Cowabunga dudes. Let's rock. Well, all right. Gang. All righty, boys and girls, this was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Secret of the ooze turtles to ooze, ooze, oozing out of your orpices.

Starting point is 00:00:27 Oozing out of my mouth. Oh, yeah. Other places to you see a doctor. Anyway, this was... You got to lay off that Olestra. You got to do. Stay safe out there. If you listen to this in Apple is Spotify, make sure to give us five stars.

Starting point is 00:00:44 Also, thank you to the people over Prepper Foot. Chopping down these highlights. Cowabunga Prepper dudes. What kind of pizza do you guys eat while you at it? Let us know. Let us know down to the comments below. Comment on the, create some engagement on the video, please. So, as we stated before, we're going to get into these frickin questions from the patrons.

Starting point is 00:01:07 Heck, yeah. And what usually happens as we are reading the questions. One, we're going to shout them out. Two, we're going to do the best for our ability to answer them. And three, as the questions pertain, as they go along, we are also going to review it in tandem with the questions. So stay tuned for that. And without further ado, Johnny Boy, let's get into it. get into it. Number one on

Starting point is 00:01:31 the question Q Pierre the reject. Thanks for chiming in. Appreciate you very much for TMNT2. Hello, John and Aaron. Hello to you. I'm glad you're watching. I'm glad you're reacting to my favorite TMNT movie. My friends and I used to play pretend

Starting point is 00:01:47 to be Ninja Turtles and I identify myself as Leonardo. Which turtle do you think you identify with? All right. So we talked about this last time. Do you still feel the same after this movie? And which who do you identify with today? Recap who you identified with in the past. So I believe I said I identified with Mikey and Raff.

Starting point is 00:02:07 That's still true. I love both of those boys. And yeah, they just continue to be fun in this one. And I get it. Why this is your favorite TM&T movie. It's so funny and it's so unabashedly silly and doesn't take itself too seriously at all. And it's not trying to be, it's succeeding at everything that it's trying to be. and I respect it for that.

Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah. And yeah, I had a good time, dude. So I'm happy that you also enjoy this one. Johnny, what about you? Yeah, this was, I could absolutely see how and why this would be your favorite, especially too if you're, you know, probably watching these as a kid, probably watching them somewhere nearer the time that they came out. Like, you know, yeah, if this was something that I had, like, grown up on, you know,

Starting point is 00:02:54 watching a lot, I'm sure this could easily have been my favorite turtle movie. I think the first one for me, still crackles a bit more with like, damn, they really did it. The first one's a better movie for sure, but this one's fun. But yeah, like, I think you come in with the worry of like, oh, is this going to lose any charm? Is this

Starting point is 00:03:11 going to be, you know, is markedly inferior in some way? And no, like, I had a great time watching this. This was so fun. I feel like I'm still my man Donatello. But, you know, we're all of the turtles at some point in our lives. And, yeah, I mean,

Starting point is 00:03:26 you know, as a kid, like I said, it started out with Mikey and then it moved to Leonardo and Raphael and then it ultimately wound up on Donatello and I'm still rocking with my man. He was the skateboard guy in this movie so that would have been my shit. That would have been for me. He's a Donny boy. So yeah we definitely played the Ninja Turtles

Starting point is 00:03:42 as well and I hope you enjoyed this reaction because this was a blast. Thanks dude. Flying Scotsman 4072 to this day I still have Vanilla Ice's song Ninja Rap in my head. Go ninja go! Go! Ninja! Go! It's still

Starting point is 00:03:58 catchy and i like it as you should what's your favorite film's uh single soundtrick song mine is sunflower from into the spider verse oh baby by what sway lee and uh somebody else oh baby mine has been consistent through most of my life okay and still to this day my favorite in movie song uh is drum roll please wow wow west hey oh my will smith that's hard to beat that wow wow I mean the men and black theme song might be among the greatest of all time I mean shouts out to black sheep

Starting point is 00:04:38 from Scott Pilgrim pretty groovy tune but I'm trying to this is a no this is the kind of question designed to like cook my brain because I'm like oh I know there's a perfect answer there's so many you know that's out there but I mean those are good ones honestly

Starting point is 00:04:55 yeah that one's a great one Kiss from a Rose. I remember when Watchman came out, we got really into the Smashing Pumpkin song that they used in the trailer. There was that single, and they had done a song, I think, called The Beginning is the,

Starting point is 00:05:10 the End is the End, it was like the A side, and that was for, like, Batman Returns of one of those older movies, and the B side was the end, the beginning as the end is the B. It's the inverse. And they used the, like, B-side version for Watchmen, and I remember we got really into that.

Starting point is 00:05:23 It was pretty sick. Another movie I've seen once, and I don't really remember the plot of it, but I know that this song is obviously associated with the song because it's the same name. I know my answer. Skyfall by Adele from Skyfall.

Starting point is 00:05:36 That's a good ass one. I'm going to go, I'm going to actually, it's a recent movie I saw, but I love the song and it's like written in the text of the movie. It's from Dinner in America. And I think that, yeah. Dinner in America? Yeah, it's a movie with Kyle Gowner

Starting point is 00:05:54 and this lovely actress. whose name escapes me now. It's like an indie, weird punk romance thing. And they write a song called Watermelon in the movie that I adore. And it's like both sweet but also like a chunky kind of like, you know, head nodding, foot stomping kind of tune. And it's a special song to me for other reasons as well. So, yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:19 I have to watch that. Yeah. That's a good ass movie. Definitely watch it. Definitely let me know what you think. Okay, okay. Another one. Okay, last one for me.

Starting point is 00:06:26 I'm going to say, this is a life from everything ever all at once. Not bad at all. That's an awesome song. Not bad at all. Okay. Are you any other ones? They'll come to me as we go. Perhaps, I mean, you know, please by all means, leave yours down in the comments below.

Starting point is 00:06:41 There's a song called Juno from the Maniac soundtrack, the remake with Elijah Wood, that I love a lot. Oh, okay. That's on the end of a very cool, like, synth score. But again, I know that there got to be so many friggin' examples of songs. this is going to hum me this guy we got to all yeah if i think of any more i'll pepper them in but this is the kind of question designed to like make my brain go over time and now i want to google them and see if i missed anything there are so many but let us know if you have any in the comments below rezone z zi as a kid i used to prefer it thank you by the way for chiming in

Starting point is 00:07:18 the sequel to the original and as an adult the opposite is true how do you feel about the overall change in tone in the second movie It's really funny, actually, because that makes a lot of sense to me. I feel like this would definitely be the one as a kid. You would be like, this one's even more fun and wild and, you know, yeah, charmingly camp. And the first one certainly has camp, but yeah, I would say that as an adult, I can't remember if I ever caught glimpses of this as a kid. I feel like I must have. I know I caught glimpses.

Starting point is 00:07:48 I saw the original one at some point when I was like a small, small child. But, yeah, I could see that. I agree with your current day assessment and I could also very much imagine the former being true. Yeah, I would say the same. I think the first one is a better movie overall because it's just so tight in an hour and a half

Starting point is 00:08:08 and then everything works in that movie. It's firing on all cylinders. But this one is just so ridiculously fun. This is the type of movie I can put on any time and just have a good, good-ass time with. You know, I could vibe to it. I can vibe with it. I could put it in the background.

Starting point is 00:08:25 I could go to sleep to this movie. And it would just be like in my sleep going, Go Ninja, go, Ninja, go. Go, Ninja, go. Go, Ninja, go. And I'll pass out. And I'll wake up still singing it. But, yeah, I think this one is so much fun.

Starting point is 00:08:40 It's a change in tone, but it's not an unwelcome one. Because it's the thing of the sequel, like, okay, we saw what worked in the first movie, what people loved. They were going to double down on all the things that people like, minus some of the action stuff because I said when we're watching it that Andrew put me out of the fact that I guess that parents didn't really want children to be inspired to use these dangerous ninja weapons so that you did a lot more hand-to-hand combat, a lot of weapons that weren't traditionally ninja weapons like using a yo-yo or using salami or using the environment. And it was funny because after I had said that in that finale fight, I want to say, is it Donnie? yeah no no not donnie uh leo he's about to pull out his swords or that he doesn't i was like ah okay okay

Starting point is 00:09:30 there's teasing a little bit but you know i i thought that was funny but even though they didn't use their classic weapons i truly did not mind and i i had a blast with this movie yeah i think the tonal shift luckily works out because the first movie to me felt like oh man they really did it they kind of translated what i associate with being the turtles across multiple media and then the second movie is more cartoon-like, but I also watched the cartoon growing up, so it's like it's not really outside of the realm of things you could do here. And it's like, I get it. It's the ninja, not that the ninja turtles need always be for children, but the children should

Starting point is 00:10:07 always be accessible to the ninja turtles or often most times. And I think in this case, yeah, it was very charming and having Shredder, you know, yes, not as like, you know, when he's like torturing Splinter in the first movie, like it's pretty good. grim in a way it's it has that thing that older movies yeah and he's like all sweaty and and it looks violent in a way and so this definitely has softer more fun cartoon comic edges but yeah even having just shredder constantly being just like oh those damn turtles they're babies i'm gonna come with a new plan like these babies like yeah i felt like they found the humor in it like that could easily be a drag on the filmmakers and i feel like instead of being dragging their feet about it or like

Starting point is 00:10:49 you know, displaying a lack of enthusiasm for having to tone down certain elements. I thought they had fun with that as a parameter instead, and I think it's what leads to good results. Because, yeah, there's a lot of similarities between this one and the other one, but this one just turns up the cartoon-y factor more, which, you know, I didn't mind. And, yeah, I'm all for a live-action cartoon, Saturday morning cartoon. Yeah, for sure. All right, just a girl.

Starting point is 00:11:17 got a couple more here but let's see appreciate you chiming in once again you are one of our very all you guys are very consistent contributors to our convos John and Aaron hi guys, great to see you again

Starting point is 00:11:30 it's always fun watching movies with you appreciate that very much did you think Shredder's plan to create his own mutants with ooze was a good idea or a bad idea and should TGRI have been revealed as the aliens from Dimension X instead of some random company that made the ooze

Starting point is 00:11:45 do you feel that less fights we can the movie and lastly what did you think of the vanilla ice cameo thanks again for a great time you guys are the best oh golly okay we can we can we can we can jump on these in a tandem uh shredder's planning to create his own mutants with the ooze was a good idea or bad idea it's a bad idea generally speaking yeah i think as a villainous plan uh you know a lot of flare a lot of flavor a lot of potential for fun and interesting uh you know additions to the rogues gallery i like it as a concept i i like it conceptually, I think it's fun in the movie, but I

Starting point is 00:12:19 can imagine how hardcore Ninja Turtle fans might have been upset by the choice. Sure. Because I think the, obviously, the classic, you know, other mutants in the T-M-N-T world are B-WOP and Rocksteady, and they were not in this movie. They were replaced with

Starting point is 00:12:34 these two, and I'm very curious as to why that was. But yeah, I think within the logic of this movie, you it could have gone really wrong if you didn't have the proper parameters and that's my

Starting point is 00:12:50 adult brain thinking about this, not as a shredder, not as a kid. I feel like as a kid in something you kind of look over, but in this moment, I'm going to say that this is not the best of ideas, but you know, it made for a fun movie, so I'm not mad at it. So TGRI

Starting point is 00:13:08 have been revealed as the aliens. I think it would be fun if they found a way to work the aliens from Dimension X in instead, but I do think that you're maybe on the edge of you're in that time, like I was

Starting point is 00:13:24 kind of surprised that the first one was like as on point as it was and I feel like the alien factor almost maybe could take things too far, like in the right hands you never know, but I do I kind of, it makes a lot of sense to me that at this point in time they went with like

Starting point is 00:13:40 science gone wrong instead. And I did think that David Warner brought a lot of nice presence to that role and for a trivial like some twist on the lore that maybe trivializes it a little bit I thought it could have gone way worse you know I liked him and he brought a nice they used that character for some nice flavoring to the movie and you know some science gone wrong you know disposal cover-up thing is not like amazing necessarily

Starting point is 00:14:08 but I thought it was appropriately utilized here it's yeah it's interesting because this movie is already so wacky with the concept of having you know mutant turtles and a ninja man with knives who recruits teenagers so part of me is like is them bringing in another

Starting point is 00:14:28 dimension like a bridge too far is it like to suspend people's disbelief but I'm like no let's just go as wacky as we can and I think they probably just made it a company for simplicity's sake just so you know you don't do a ton more explaining but I think Dimension X would have been

Starting point is 00:14:44 really cool and I'd like to see yeah them utilize that in a if they ever do another live action live action Ninja Turtle's movie I think that'd be something cool to see hell yeah I feel like too I mean you know maybe that's something you could build to

Starting point is 00:14:59 in a part three or something you could do some retconning you can be like and then well yes it was the GRI's ooze but we tampered with it too and that's why oh okay I like that idea like an alternate continuity like how they did for uh was it the

Starting point is 00:15:14 Halloween movies, they, like, made something canon, the first two were canon, like, the last one or the third one was not, or kind of like a Superman Return situation, where the first two were canon, but Superman 3 and 4 or not. I was going to say, how far back in film history do we start erasing sequels, but not other sequels? Do you feel that less fights weakens the movie? I don't think necessarily, I guess I could have maybe used a little bit more, or a little bit more variety of fighting i think because it's all hand-to-hand and not everyone is a showstopper uh you know i guess

Starting point is 00:15:51 maybe you know on paper um but i wasn't sitting here stewing on the idea of like you know what i just not am i was never feeling like there wasn't action in the movie but um the certainly the first movie i think has sharper action than this one what i will say uh as i think i agree with you the first one has sharper action something that and you can tell me like yeah tell me your thoughts on this or if you agree or disagree i feel like with the exception of rav i feel like they their personality differences aren't extremely distinct within this version of the movie yeah and because they're all just like brood dude brood turtles who are just like duproding broing out but i think with something like mutant mayhem or some later iterations it makes their specific

Starting point is 00:16:42 Rolls clear. You know, Mikey's like the kid brother. Raff's like the tough brew. Donnie's the smart one. Leo's the leader. And I feel like that was not as clear in, I think, both movies, but it's still fun, nonetheless. Yeah, and not having their weapons in play means that you lose the variety in the fights. So you have to mostly rely on either martial arts.

Starting point is 00:17:02 Or I thought this movie they did nicely to at least, like, have the, usually the set thing was part of the personality of the fight. they would use stuff around or they would have to come up with some creative way to, you know, combat the, you know, wolf and snapping turtle guys and whatever. But, yeah, I feel like if you had their signature weapons, then you would have a bunch of opportunities to do different kinds of action. But, you know, so it goes. Do you think, what do you think of the Vanilla Ice Cameo? I'm for it in the long history of, you know, musical artists appearing in a club scene of a movie. It's pretty iconic. I'm surprised at his wardrobe for the concert.

Starting point is 00:17:46 I thought they would have had him more overtly decked out in turtle gear. It makes me wonder if green or even like a bright yellow. I wonder if there's a music video or something for this that I am maybe even kind of thinking of in my mind's eye. But yes, vanilla ice cameo, iconic. I'm sure he was like the biggest get at the time. And, you know, for this kid's Ninja Turtles movie, why not, man, why not? oh yeah i'm sure so many kids were singing go ninja go after this movie oh yeah it's very it's maybe it's some of those more prevalent in the 90s and the 80s but these days it's rare

Starting point is 00:18:20 more rare that you just get overt uh songs by popular artists to just pop into the middle of the movie as like a cross-promotional ad for both the movie and the artist's career so i think it's it is definitely a unique in that way but i'm not mad at it i think it just added to the fun It's wacky. It doesn't make a ton of sense, but I'm here for it. I don't need it to make sense as long as we're having fun. That's all the matters at the end of the day. Could have been anybody.

Starting point is 00:18:49 It should have been the band Trampled by Turtles if this was made at a different point in time. But what are you going to do? Let's know. Thank you for the kind words. Appreciate you guys. We've got a couple stragglers because there's usually a cutoff based on when we're shooting this. But since I have the access today, we'll squeeze a couple other people in here at the end. Jay Rushden, thank you so much.

Starting point is 00:19:09 you're always a consistent contributor for secrets of the secret of the ooze. Was this movie an improvement? My answer is yes, do you agree there? We've trod in this territory a bit in this review. I would say that it depends on what you want. Isn't an improvement?

Starting point is 00:19:25 It depends. You know, if you want slightly more comedic, slightly more cartoon-like and more youthful tone, I think this is you know, more toward that direction. I think there are some key elements. I thought the actress here

Starting point is 00:19:41 who was April was affable and enjoyable to watch while she was around, but I think the actress who played the original April O'Neill got me more invested in that character. And I thought she had a more defined

Starting point is 00:19:57 like rapport with the Ninja Turtles. What is that actress's name too? Shouts out to her, Judith Hogue. She was in Halloween Town. Oh, no way. She's the mom in the Halloween town. Who was the second April, Neil?

Starting point is 00:20:14 And then, yeah, let's see. Secrets of the Ouse, April, O'Neill, is Paige Turco. That's right. Called her out. Page Turco. Which I don't know if I've seen her in anything else. She's done certainly some other stuff in the 80s, but... Yeah, I wonder why she wasn't in the sequel.

Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah, I'd be very curious to know. Oh, she's in the horror movie, The Stepfather, in 2009. She's still out here doing the acting. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think the April O'Neill aspect and just, like, that spirit of, like, them and her and the city and, like, why having a reporter involved is, like, a specific plot point at all is, like, stronger in the first movie. And certainly, like, all the stuff with Master Splinter is great, and the boys are great. And, like, whenever he's, you know, giving them some mentoring tutelage, that's lovely. It's not quite as much of that here.

Starting point is 00:21:05 and I think while Casey Jones obviously would have been sick to see in this super cool loved him in the first movie I liked Keeno like I liked Ernie Reyes Jr's presence I wish this movie had given more to those characters I think it's appropriate

Starting point is 00:21:21 that the turtles and Splinter still get the lion's share of like the characterization but since we do have these other characters I thought they were better drawn in the first movie but they were very appealing to watch and very enjoyable parts of the story for me even still this time around yeah i can i can echo those sentiments i feel like the

Starting point is 00:21:40 first movie's choice of you know having april have the subplot with the the kid and her boss and then having casey jones come in and him having his relationship with raff and then Casey and april then developing a love-hate relationship i think all that stuff was more was better defined so I think this movie is a really fun movie, but I think the first movie is just a little bit better for me. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Last one. Got a creative one here from

Starting point is 00:22:12 Kev B. Thank you so much for chiming in. John and Aaron for TMNT2. Secret of the Oos. You ready for this? Shell, yeah. May your day be smoother than a freshly waxed half shell and as full of surprises, a secret a secret stash of sewer

Starting point is 00:22:29 pizza. Go forth and crush a turtle style. Turtle style. How do you do a cool mono finger turtle salute? Okay, here we go. Let's say you're in NYC with the Ninja Turtles. And you can only team up with one to tackle a serious pizza emergency. But here's the twist.

Starting point is 00:22:48 You've just been hit with a batch of ooze. And suddenly you can't stop blurting out your weirdest cartoon catchphrases from when you were a kid. Which turtle are you teaming up with? And what over the top totally a huge plan are you coming up with to take down super? Shredder. Oh, wow. And then we'll tackle that in a sec. Here's an oozerific tidbit,

Starting point is 00:23:08 and I think we will be excited to hear about this. Did you know that the original script actually included a return for Casey Jones? What? But the studio thought the sequel should be more, quote, kid-friendly, and axed that plan in favor of, well, Toka and Razar? Yeah, not quite the Peter Laird, Eastman, Comic, Noir. Also, the actors couldn't use their weapons for real in the series. installment thanks to parent complaints after the first movie so cue the sausages

Starting point is 00:23:36 yo-yo's and slapstick uh yeah interesting i mean kacey jones i feel like you could have made him more kid friendly but i get why they maybe went to different direction because he does have like that menacing punk rock guy mask yeah frigging the sticks and stuff he was super cool all right who you team up with and uh what's your crazy 80s plan so we have to take the super shredder down okay so we have to go get pizza but also take down Super Shredder? Yeah, it's a pizza emergency that I assume like Super Shredder

Starting point is 00:24:08 is about to like get in the way of so not only do you have to get the pizza you also have to vanquish Super Shredder to get to the pizza. Oh snap maybe Super Shredder is about to like destroy all of the pizza in New York City. But destroy all the pizza? Yeah, it's got a special

Starting point is 00:24:24 pizza ray that neutralizes all pizzas in a 150 500 mile radius. Oh, no. However many miles. Okay, let's see. So you got team up with somebody. And I come up with a catchphrase, too.

Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah. Because I got oozed on. Yeah. Ooh. You're taking down Super Shredder. Okay. So I think I'm teaming up with, if it's a pizza emergency, I feel like Mikey loves pizza the most. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:53 Out of all of that. I'm at a crossroads. We can just plan this together. I'm at a crossroads because I think Mikey is your guy for, like, he's so driven by the pizza at the end of the stick that I feel like he'll get you there if it's pizza. But if you're solo going up against a Super Shredder, I feel like Raff is probably the solo guy you want. Yeah, because he's the one that goes off on his own the most. He's the one who, I think in some iterations, he becomes his own, like, vigilante independently.

Starting point is 00:25:20 So, yeah. I think for that mission specifically, he's the guy. Because if it's a pizza emergency alone, I'm going with Mikey. But it's a super shredder thing. I'm going with Raff. and yeah dude do you have a catchphrase oh my god that's the toughest part for me yeah yeah yeah i mean cruising for an oozen was pretty good earlier you you had that one cruising for an oozen i like that one oh wow there's so many because it's taking place in the 80s yeah right um

Starting point is 00:25:59 terrible. This is such a tough question because it's weird because I'm like, you think my improv skills would come into handy here for this one. Sasseroni, dude. You just got sliced. Oh, okay. So wait, no, is it something that you're saying in action or like,

Starting point is 00:26:19 you know how they say the little? I'm going to say hot and ready in 30 minutes or it's free. Oh, okay. Hot and ready in 30 minutes. See, I need something to respond to. That's the thing. is like my 80s catchphrase I would have to Arnold about it I would have to have a situation

Starting point is 00:26:32 and the yes and the situation You know I would I would I don't know if I would have a single catchphrase I would have catchphrases depending on where we are what's happening All right so totally tubular Turtle turtle te you want to come up with a turtle one Hot and ready dude Saved by the shell Saved by the shell

Starting point is 00:26:56 That's not bad all right all right yeah man we're going saved by the show all right and then my plan I guess would have

Starting point is 00:27:06 anything where you can like slide on the show that involves like having to pull all the limbs in and then surprise like jump back out I think it would be a cool one so I'd have RAF do something

Starting point is 00:27:14 that involves that you know I guess if we had to get a if we had to stop shredder from a pizza related crime I think the key would be that we would need to block the beams from his pizza ray

Starting point is 00:27:26 with like a giant version of one of the of those, like, plastic table-looking things they put in the middle of some pizzas, you know? We need a giant version of that to, like, block off the beams. And then we would have to enclose him in a giant hot and ready takeout box or something. Like, my plan would involve enclosing him in a box and then sealing that box inside of, like, a heat-tight case. So that he ultimately becomes, like, a giant delivery pizza. I love that.

Starting point is 00:27:52 Like, the solution to the problem is to box him up hot and ready style. Okay, the reason I asked the question I did earlier is if we're getting the pizza and having to fight Super Shredder, because that changes the contact. Because if we're having to get the pizza first and then on the way home from the pizza, we get Super Shredder, I'm thinking, okay, he's Super Shredder. He's a big dude. He already has heavy armor on. So we get him to chase us to, like, somewhere where there's like a lot of, where there's, like, water nearby. Sure. Rustum.

Starting point is 00:28:23 Not only Rust him, getting the slip and fall. We throw the pizza on the floor to get him to slip on it like a banana peel, allowing him to fall into the water. Oh, okay. Okay. How about this? We make a pizza that has a bunch of, like, magnets on it attached to, like, little, what are they called? The stars, the ninja stars. Okay.

Starting point is 00:28:45 And then, you know, once shredder gets near, Super Shredder, he'll be, you know, like assailed by all these titanium pepperoni ninja stars. Or, or, okay, it's pizza on the ground, right? I'm going to build off of what you did that. Oh, I thought of a new catchphrase, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Okay. It's time to get stuffed, crushed.

Starting point is 00:29:09 Oh, shoot. Okay, okay. So there's a pizza on the ground, right? And then Shredder's going to, like, open the pizza, but inside the pizza slash under the pizza. It's like it's interwoven into the making of the pizza. It's a big pizza. There's a net in the pizza. so when he goes to reach for it he gets caught up by the pizza net it's kind of like one of those one of those jars with the snakes inside yeah

Starting point is 00:29:34 just yeah and it's pizza and it yeah and it's just a net that shoots out from all the different little toppings and then we got him trapped because i guess he loves pizza too yeah so we i think we did it guys we did it well that's what we do and then yeah and then he's in he goes away in a stray jacket but we feed him a slice of pizza anyway because we're cool like that. We did it. We stopped the shredder. We drop a giant anchovy on his head. That's what we do. We inject an anchovy with the ooze and then we fight him with the

Starting point is 00:30:03 anchovy. There's so many options guys. Leave us your plan. We're going to have yeah, it's going to involve a ramp lots of taxi cabs, magnetic pepperoni ninja stars, a bunch of water. We're going to rust them. We're going to put them in a box. We're going to

Starting point is 00:30:19 catch him with a net and yeah we're going to sick a giant anchovy on we're going to season them and we're going to dip him with some ranch this was very fun super fun this is very fun I don't know what the budget was let's that's the last thing we'll look up what's the budget what's the budget

Starting point is 00:30:35 what's the secret of the I'm going to ask you this was a slightly lower budget right because the first one was what 30 million this was 25 no I think the first one was fifth 30 or 40 13 look 13 oh no I am wrong that's right I was very surprised

Starting point is 00:30:50 Twice the budget. I feel very bad about that. It's partly in how you shoot it, I would say. All the pizza and then they had to pay for vanilla ice to come on. That's true. The pizza budget must have been off. They didn't allocate their budget appropriately in the first movie. They were very strategic with it.

Starting point is 00:31:07 But also before we go, I want you to guess the Rotten Tomatoes for Secret of the U.S. This didn't get a great first movie Rotten Tomatoes score. Who's the first one? I feel like it's got to be like, 46% or something like that. Okay, yeah, because it is a different director too. So like sometimes, not to shade anyone particular department or whatever. And there is a Vanilla Ice Ninja Rap short music video.

Starting point is 00:31:33 Of course there is. That we will have to check out at some point in our lives. But yeah. Interesting. Okay, I'm looking at the score for both of them. What's you got? Okay. Oh, this one's slightly shorter than the first one.

Starting point is 00:31:46 By a few, like, five minutes. Okay. Okay. So, critics and audiences, what are we going with? I'll say, like, 38% critics and 70% audience. You're pretty close on both of, actually. Okay, okay. Is it 38% critics? Yes.

Starting point is 00:32:07 36% critics. Okay. All right. I'm back in the game. I'm back in the game. 70% audience? Yeah. 67% audience. You're mad close to. Yeah. I can feel that. I could feel that. I could feel that. It's interesting. Judith Hogue was not called to reprise her role as April O'Neill because I guess the director wasn't happy with the way she derided and the way they mistreated the stunt doubles and their unfair schedule changes. Interesting. And she and the actress who played April O'Neill and this one, Paige Turco, are now friends.

Starting point is 00:32:44 Oh, nice. So let's see. Interesting. In Teenage Mutantia Turtles, 19. The facial expressions were cable operated with all the motor servos, et cetera, housed in the shell in this movie. Thanks to a larger budget, the animatronics were smaller and lighter and were built into the face itself. It's pretty cool. And, yeah, I noticed this. Ernie Reyes Jr. was Donatello's fight double in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1990. He got, like, his own credit, like a specified, like separate, separated credit, I feel like.

Starting point is 00:33:09 Producers like Dreis so much, they created the role of Keeno just for him to replace the ultra-violent Casey Jones. Casey Jones wasn't an assertive guy I don't know how I don't know how you know he would fare in a cartoony movie yeah I know I don't put it to gel as well I guess they thought the creators thought

Starting point is 00:33:32 that Shredder shouldn't appear in the second movie Oh wow But they planned a scene where the garbage man fell in the Shredder's helmet crushed and twisted Which would have been a subtle enough way To refer to his ambiguous fate from the first film And set the scene for his appearance in a third TMNT movie however the producers wanted the movie to be closer to the cartoon

Starting point is 00:33:48 and therefore decided to have shredder return in this movie instead and you take his mask off this time too because i think it was the same voice actor but different guy playing shredder yeah yeah okay the one main concern i guess this is the last thing i'll read was that kevin eastman and peter laird had was that the second and any subsequent movie stay as much away from the cartoon show and as close to the original black and white comics as possible as the first movie did they felt there was plenty of material in the black and white books to form the basis for another good movie i guess a lot of people would probably agree with you and we'll get that again soon yeah i feel like if we wanted to or the day and age where they could make a classic comic version of

Starting point is 00:34:28 the team nt for adults and you know we get the animated kids version they're doing like a ronin movie right are they really i think they're doing some kind of or a game or something i don't know i think i heard that somewhere on the interwebs well let us know down in the comments below your kooky plans to take down the shredder let us know about all things turtles down to the comments we love you stay totally tubular stay all things cool cowabunga and we'll see you in the next one deuces and pizza and pizza pizza pizza go ninja to the pizza barler

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