The Reel Rejects - TENET (2020) MOVIE REVIEW – NOLAN'S MOST DIVISIVE MASTERPIECE?! - FIRST TIME WATCHING

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

DON'T TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT... FEEL IT. As our journey toward Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey continues, John Humphrey & Andrew Gordon experience Tenet (2020) for the first time, reacting to Nolan's most ambitious sci-fi thriller. From the breathtaking opera siege, inverted hallway fight, jaw-dropping 747 plane crash, highway chase, temporal pincer movement, and mind-bending ending, this Tenet reaction is packed with theories, confusion, and appreciation for one of Nolan's boldest films. Tenet Reaction (Full Length Watch Along):   / thereelrejects   Limited Time Offer – Make healthy eating simple. Get Huel today with my exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with my code REJECTS at huel.com/REJECTS. New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for partnering and supporting our show! In this Tenet movie reaction, Tenet full movie reaction, and review, John & Andrew react to Christopher Nolan's (Oppenheimer, Inception) time-bending espionage thriller starring John David Washington as The Protagonist (BlacKkKlansman, The Creator), Robert Pattinson as Neil (The Batman, Mickey 17), Elizabeth Debicki as Kat (The Crown, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3), Kenneth Branagh as Andrei Sator (Belfast, Murder on the Orient Express), and Michael Caine as Sir Michael Crosby (The Dark Knight Trilogy, Interstellar), featuring an unforgettable score by Ludwig Göransson (Oppenheimer, Black Panther). From temporal inversion and the spectacular practical effects to Neil's emotional arc, the Sator Square mystery, and one of Christopher Nolan's most debated endings, John & Andrew discuss whether Tenet deserves another look and why it remains one of Nolan's most fascinating films ahead of The Odyssey. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, my God. Guys, we just Hoyt van Hoytava. Incredible job. Nathan Crowley does all the production design on Nolan Films. Jennifer LeMay, or lame could be. Anyway, guys, oh my God. Music, Ludwig Gorensen, love to see it, visual effects supervisor, Andrew Gordon. Yes, yes.

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This whole experience is a tenant. Andrew. John. How are you feeling? And what are your thoughts? I mean, there's obviously points. I did not understand, which I was figuring that was going to happen. But I really, I felt the film and I enjoyed it.

I'm going to watch it a few more times so I can pick up on things, which I'm sure a lot of people had that experience. But it still had that no-one effect for me and that it was big in scope. It had incredible characters. John David Washington, incredible performance. I love how calm, cool, and collective he was. And this is actually my first time watching him just in jail. I've never seen him before in anything before that. So, yeah, he was incredible.

Just a great presence in general. He's great black Klansman. I'll have to check that out sometime. And his chemistry with Robert Pattinson and all film. They were so good together. And Robert Pattinson as well, fantastic performance. He's so suave, so charming, so much fun to watch in this film as well. I know I mentioned it earlier.

I said he reminded me of like James Bond. I could see him as a playboy Bruce Wade in this as well. And I... Dude, that's a good call. Like, he's way more charming and effortless, which is, like, the character that Bruce Wayne could be. Yeah.

You kind of see, like, oh, yeah, I can see how if, you know, this version of his Batman were to build, like, the public persona of Bruce... Yeah, which I could see doing in Batman Part 2. I know they didn't go that particular route in the first film, but that's neither here nor there. I enjoyed his former...

Elizabeth Debecki, is that he said her last name? DeBicki, excuse me? I know I've only seen her in Gardens, the Galaxy. volumes two and three where she was in heavy makeup as Aisha and that's why I made that reference joke earlier where I said his name is Adam or whatever I said but you know she was one of the main emotional cores of this film and you know builds a lot of stakes forward

just with what's going on with Max and I'm very curious I mean I have no idea if just because of and I know I still am not processing and understanding everything I'm wondering if like maybe Neil was Max this whole time. I don't know. Like, that was running through my head. But either... What the fuck? Whoa. Either, either way, whether that's... Never considered that. Yeah, whether that's true or not, like, just the entirety of the stakes of what was happening, like, I was feeling that

throughout the film and just feeling her pain and what she was going through and having to live with Andre and how he was threatening her all film and just the idea of her son. And it was it was really an emotional thing that Nolan was building on with her character. And that's where I think the film is really, you know,

was really strengthened. It was definitely on the emotional core. And I like, like I said earlier, I like that Nolan was very self-aware in this film. He knew that it was going to be a little bit of an uphill battle

in terms of like the film was going to be a little bit of a jarring experience when it comes to understanding everything, at least on first watch, for most people. It's like if you thought Inception was a mindbender, which Inception has a reputation for being like,

it is really cool and intricate, but it's not quite as hard to understand as it presents itself, whereas like this is more impenetrable, I think. And there's times, yeah, there's definitely times in that where I was a little bit, a little bit confused, but it was a little easier to follow, but this one was definitely a little bit more complex than that one. But also, too, I did like in this film

that it just was relentless in its pacing. There's exposition scene, exposition scene, exposition scene, exposition scene. And that's a unique type of thing that I think Dolan was doing throughout the film. So I did appreciate that. And I do like, at its core, I really feel like the film was, hey, it's our responsibility to protect the future and the future that, and also, like, you know, with what. shaped us in the past and protected us and that we have to protect. So I thought that was, I did like that message.

It resonated with me. And also too, really quick, and then I'll go to you. I thought Kenneth Brahma, he was really menacing performance. There were times where he was scary and threatening, but there were also times that scene. I'm really glad we got that last scene with him and his wife, where you really got to feel like what really drove him and that emotional scene was just in terms of

why he was doing what he was doing with time and everything but just seeing that softer side of him I just I think it gave him it was very intricate but it was also too just seeing just how multifaceted he could be in his performance. I really liked that. He was a very fascinating villain and just what he was doing, what he was doing, his motivations.

That was probably one of my favorite scenes was that scene with just, he actually did in a twisted way, loved and cared about his wife, and just like how he felt like it was very sinful to bring a son into this world that was dying. Like, it was just a lot of interesting things that was going on with his character. So I really enjoyed his performance. But how are you feeling on second time watched? Did you pick up more things this time around? Slightly.

I mean, it helps. Like, this is a movie, it's strange. Like, I really, watching this here now, I'm like, damn, I cannot wait for another opportunity to see this on an IMAX screen. Just because, like, it's interesting. When you watch it at home, you have a greater opportunity to catch every detail, which a movie like this inspires you to want to do. It's been long enough since the first time that I didn't really have a lot of the intricacies.

Like, a lot of this was surprising, like, a lot of the details and developments, because it is such a dense movie, there is so much happening, and it does maintain, even when it chills out, it's freaking moving. Yeah. So, you know,

and it doesn't chill out a whole lot. So, like, this seems like a kind of fun, cinematic, you know, instance in which you can kind of get a fresh viewing, I would imagine, a bunch of times,

until you really, like, if you watch it, like, five times in a week or two, you know, then you might really get it all down, Pat. But I feel like,

if you watch this, and even let a year or two go by like it'll probably be a fresh viewing and so this was really fun and I think for me one thing that came across and I'm curious about your experience because again this movie has a reputation and as we'll see in some of the questions from our

royal rejects you know this has been a more of a divisive Nolan movie and at the outset I feel like this is one that causes people to come in sort of with their thinking cap on and with the sort of sense that like okay I'm really have to lock in because this movie is going to be a handful

And so, like, I can see how this would be, like, kind of an overbearing experience if you're not willing to just kind of let go and have some fun with it because, like, it is an odd movie. And I think it's cool that that's the case because I know some people dog the whole, like, I'm the protagonist thing. And we got antagonists and, like, some of these things that are broken down into what seem like very blunt story structural bricks and pieces. But even that feels like it's in conversation with, like, the time, the reverse. inverted like things going backward into their more primal forms and stuff like that. A satyr is a male nature spirit in Greek mythology known for being a follower of Dionysus, the god of wine. They're typically defective as half human, half beast and are renowned for their rowdy, lustful behavior and love for music and dancing. Interesting. Because like, yeah, Sater, like I figure like that

would be kind of a loaded name. He's just called John David Watch. He's just called the protagonist. Neal gets a name. which is interesting because Neil is also one of the characters with more personality, more, he's the funnest character to watch easily. He's the most colorful presence. I like Aaron Tarlow Johnson a lot too.

I thought even though he was doing a more gruff, stoic guy, he brought a lot of flavor and a lot of like subtle humor with that for me anyway. So like, yeah, I thought this was really fun and I came in at least with the idea more ingrained that like,

yeah, just vibe with it, man. Just like let it wash over. you catch what you catch you know they'll explain this shit a thousand times and the whole point is that it's like it's kind of hard to understand and you kind of just have to have faith that the people making it sort of know the answers to these things but it is really enticing

like yeah this is that's the kind of note that I was left with this time I was like this was so fun which is not I think the reputation this movie has so I mean I really enjoy getting to share it with you and I hope that you had fun too I guess like were you able to have fun with it

or was it more something where you're like okay I'm kind of breathless keeping up with. It was a combination of both. I had fun watching the characters. I had fun trying to figure out what was going. Well, that part wasn't the fun part, but it was fun like watching the visual effects.

That was incredible. It was, like I said, that was so cinematic. I mean, so incredible to watch. I can't imagine how much time this must have taken Christopher Nolan to come up with the concept and the idea. And, I mean, time is always something that, he is is interested in exploring. When it comes to, when it comes to,

I was going to say insomnia, he didn't do insomnia. What was the film with Robin Williams and Al Pacino that he did? Was it? Insomnia. Insomnia. Insomnia.

I was going to say when it comes to, when it comes to this film, when it comes to, most of his films, they just, time is something that he likes to play around with. But yeah, it was once, I just started letting go, I'm like, I'm not going to be able to keep up with everything when it comes to the logic of the film.

So I'm just feeling the film. I'm feeling the characters. And from that perspective, absolutely. I enjoyed it. I loved it. And I can't wait to pick up on more things. I was trying to also, if you notice, too, I did not even attempt to write anything. I was trying to just feel it.

Yeah, well, not only feel it, but I was just trying to stay locked in with the dialogue and to just pick up the rules of the world and all that too. So I knew if I wrote something down, I was definitely going to just completely miss out on whatever they were talking about. But yeah, no, I really enjoyed it for sure. And I can't wait to, like I said, I can't wait to watch it a few more times,

just so I can be watching it again for a first time. but yeah yeah yeah this this i mean like it's it's one of those where i think even if you don't enjoy it you have to admire to some extent the very ambitious and the ambition and i mean even if you're not like i could see why and then we'll get into questions and stuff but like you know this movie out of all the nolan ones i feel like you know i feel like he's got a certain romanticism as a filmmaker and this movie in some ways uh puts that behind the most barriers. I don't think this is, like, the first time I remember feeling like, man, this is such a, it is like kind of a cold movie on the outset. It is like, you're not getting very personal

with many of the characters. You sort of know the most about the Sater and Elizabeth Debicki, you know, relationship and that drama, and even that you're sort of observing from outside and at different angles. But yeah, I don't know. I thought the form of this just had such lovely conversation with like the things actually happening on screen. I think this movie has a lot of like crazy exposition to get across that it does with surprising. Like I could definitely see why somebody would think this movie like annoying or pretentious because of how blunt it is with some of the exposition. But I kind of again, if you choose to go with the world and the fact that like to me, you're dealing with people who are like of some kind of shadowy organization. that is operating like on a plane of reality

we literally cannot glimpse. It's like so much bigger than everything. And so it kind of makes sense to me to have a protagonist who is like sort of not quite of this world. Like I like that John David Washington has these moments like you don't again get to know him at all. It's very mysterious. And again, I think you could certainly take issue with that.

I think there are ways in which it's okay in a movie like this because of what we're doing and what the, sort of whole you kind of just have to trust and and yeah i think that it's appropriate for a guy who's like discovering i'm working for myself this whole time uh you know that yeah you maybe don't quite feel like he's just a guy you know you know you got to have i maybe and and you know i i get that there might be issues with that too but yeah there's like i don't mind him not being a fully fleshed out like you know oh we're going to see his very human backstory i'm like i'm like i assumed to be on this level he must have spent most of his life doing training and operations and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that would get you to this point of elite, you know, operative status. And, you know, to me, that's not a guy who would just be like an average dude, you know? So, like, it's kind of okay. And then you get a little bit of that personality back with a guy like Neil who you do get a sense. Like, by the end, I was like, I kind of like this friendship, even though, again, this isn't Nolan's most heart-oriented movie in a foregrounded sense.

Like I really liked the bond that I grew with between Neil and the protagonist. You know, and I'm like, damn, you know, even though you know he's potentially probably going to go back to die, like, you have this like, oh, man, but they're going to meet or he's going to see him a bunch more times until they meet, you know, in the future. And fun, fun and fascinating. Yeah, but I think that first scene where he, you know, where he took that, that pill. And I think that even though the film didn't fully flesh out his character, I think that film just, set up his character and who he is and what he was all about. Just, I think that scene did a great job of just setting him up as a character. But, yeah, it would have been nice to fully thought.

But I think with everything the film had to do with just exposition and just being bombastic and all that, and it was already two and a half hours. So I think that's a lot to do to also flesh his character out. So I understand why it didn't. But I still fully agree with you. Yeah. And it's like the movie moves, like it's two and a half. It's still frenetic.

Yeah. And I wasn't feeling the time too heavy. And I mean, it looks beautiful. The IMAX. And I thought the way they handled, I mean, there's a lot to do with like, oh, yeah. Like, I know they had to fix some of this for the Odyssey. You know, the IMAX camera's loud. So, like, a lot of times you'll see, like, oh, we're cutting into like a dialogue heavy scene.

So we'll be back in 35. But I like seeing how, like, a lot of times you would have 35 when you're indoors or when you're, especially, like, you know, when he's getting onto the boat and stuff and you're, like, cutting inside. and it's like 35 because she's sort of trapped in here and it's interior, it's more contained, and then we're outside, and it's sort of like we're seeing the world more fully. Just like really fun applications of, you know, the photography. The music is like almost a melodic. It's not super melodic anyway. It has notes, but it's mostly just like synth precautions almost, which is really just cool.

And it gives it the sort of swirling, otherworldly futuristic vibe. Like, it's a really well-corrhustic. crafted movie, I think, regardless of how you feel about the experience of watching it. Yeah, no, the movie, the music is definitely a pulse on the film. I mean, it felt very Hans Zimmeresque at first, and then I felt

very, it had Ludwig's, however you pronounce, I'm so sorry, it had his, just his pulse all over it and his stamp all over it, just, it really just elevated the film, had that momentum, and I really adored the score. Yeah, there were times where was going a little bit over the dialogue,

but I didn't mind it at all just because it was so engraved into the soul of the film, so I really enjoyed it so much, dude. Such a... I mean, there were tons where we were just beating to. It was just such a good score. I would love to just listen to the score,

like go to an opera that doesn't get, hopefully hijacked or something like that or, you know, hit with gas or something like that. But I just listened to his score. It was incredible. Mm-hmm. So I'm glad that him and Nolan have built such a...

a bond in relationship. I think that from my understanding, he and Nolan worked on this film because Han Zimmer was tied up with Dune. But I'm glad that they now have a rapport and they work together. So, they have a really good work on relationship. I love

them working together now. Here, yeah. Yeah, I feel like he might have even been like a pro J. of Zimmer at one point. I could see that for sure. Yeah, really natural takeover. And I mean, you know, really distinct score. still so like nice job there have been times where i forgot to go grocery shopping in fact one time

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Captain Fernandez. regarding the whole temporal inversion concept of the film. Nolan has basically said, don't try to understand it, feel it. That being said, did you guys understand the inversion mechanics by the end of the film? And if so, when did it click for you? Did I understand the inversion mechanics?

I didn't fully understand everything. Like I said, it probably... You'll see my reaction. I was like, eh-ha. But I did feel everything. Like I said, the characters, they resonated with me. Emotionally, I was really locked in

and I was feeling the film. And I knew coming into this, as I've mentioned several times, that this was an extremely complex film and I wasn't probably going to understand it the first few times I'm watching it, especially the first time, which is fine.

I don't need to fully understand something to enjoy it. And it's... The visuals, the characters, the action sequences from all those perspectives. I really enjoyed this film. I can't wait to watch it

and pick up on things. That's one of my favorite things to do is rewatch a film and pick up on nuances and different things that I didn't pick up on the first time, the second time,

the third time. And Christopher Nolan has a knack for those things. I love re-watching Nolan films like, oh, I didn't notice it the first time and second time. Granted, this is definitely

his most complex film that I've seen in his catalog but I cannot wait to revisit it but I'm not going to lie and say yes I understood everything when it came to how the minutia's worked when it came to

moving forward and backwards I did not so I'm not going to lie about that but what about you? It's interesting I mean I would say that this time at least like again my recollection wasn't amazing and it was certainly more just sort of like I remember certain settings and images

and moments from the trailers stuff like that. So yeah, I think a lot of it is there. It's definitely going to take me a more sort of like, I'm at home and I can pause and I can move around and sort of check detail. You know, it's like to really iron out the mechanics and to really make it like a homework assignment, you know, I would have to do something like that. But like watching this, I was at least struck with the idea that like, yeah, if you kind of relax, because I think this movie invites you to sort of come in with attention about like, okay. I gotta lock in.

But if you have fun with it and you can have fun with the filmmaking and all the stuff around it, yeah, I think they do... Here, let's look up the word entropy, a measure of disorder, randomness or energy dispersal

within a system. So yeah, it's like they're sending the sort of chaos of time in the opposite direction. They're like shock waving it back or something. Yeah, it's like, I don't know if there's a moment where it ever like 100% close.

clicks. I'm trying to think of a point in the movie where I would have been more confident, but this was certainly a more confident viewing for me. I was like, okay, I could see the first time you watch it, it's sort of dizzying, and I feel like the first time I watched it, I did not have the benefit of like headphones, subtitles, and things

like that. So, you know, here being able to observe that and having at least the sort of background, yeah, I would say like, it definitely is kind of a fun middle point that you reach where you're like, yeah, I'm, I'm, gonna have more fun with this. I'm gonna let it wash over me. I'm not gonna try too hard, but

I think a lot of it is there and the movie makes a fun, it's fun because there's so much happening and then multiple scenes start to have two timelines and stuff and there will be all sorts of little suggestions. It's like it'll teach you, I think, every time kind of what to look for. Yes. And you know, if you know enough about cinema language, you know, they can pan over to something and hold on it to suggest its importance. But, you know, it's like watching a movie like this, you're like, okay, well, they did a scene where they showed these cracks in the glass, and then they inverted the bullets on the cracks, and so you go, oh, shit, I'm questioning a whole bunch of cracks.

I didn't actually think about it quite in the moment. But, yeah, when the bullet hole on his arm starts to kick in, and it's good at selling stuff to be like, oh, maybe this rearview mirror is just messed up, or maybe his arm, he's been in so many physical. situations, maybe just something normal is going wrong, but no, it's like the weird reverse flow of time is like anticipating. Like, yeah, I'm getting off road of your question. I think it's, yeah, it definitely works, I would say, to go with the whole, like, don't try too hard to understand, just feel it. I do think that, like, this is, it has that juju where you're like, I get the sense

that they know and they did like a lot of work to, I think like the vibes thing is, like an uncanny valley test. It's sort of like if it's good enough you can vibe with it and still it's fun and you can get more stuff out of it and yada yada and all the you know minor nitty gritty details aren't the most important part. And I think that like yeah, if it wasn't working and they didn't know they didn't if this didn't feel like clockwork and they didn't feel like they spent so much time really beating out how this could work. You know, I don't know if that vibeability would exist still. You know what I mean?

And maybe I'm wrong, but yeah, I feel like, especially as the movie reaches into the second half and you start to see like these palindrome moments tie back around. Like there's one set of impressive, you know, moments to be had in like the immediacy of something, you know, when they immediately, you know, see the guy come out of the turn style and they have that fight

where one of them's forward and the other's reversed. And like, that's already kind of a cool, immediate primer for like the weird timey-wimey, Mimey nature of the movie. But then later on, the movie itself does this palindrome stuff, where it comes back to that, and we find out why he was there, and it's part of the story, and this timeline is, like, weaving around in on itself. Yeah, it's like all that stuff felt like they figured it out convincingly, and then with

what I was able to catch in the dialogue in the things suggested in the imagery, really being able to sit here and examine. Yeah, I'm trying to think of, like, when the click moment would have happened, and And that's kind of really hard to say, honestly, because there are still questions that I would have. There are still things about it where I'm like, wait a minute, though, I need to go back and revisit this thing or that thing. And I think that they do nicely to, like, check in with the idea throughout the movie that, like, you need to start looking at time differently. You need to start looking at, like, what it means to tie these loose ends up and what it means to trust and believe and yada, yada, yada. So it's weird.

It's like, I don't know if I can even fully claim that the click has happened. Yeah, for sure. But it's clicked more this time than the last time. Just this is a totally off subject, but just as we're looking at the frames there, I forgot to say, just in my initial review, one of the most impressive things that I forgot to say to in my review, it was really impressive to watch the actors while they were doing a lot of physical, crazy stuff, still able to do the exposition. Like when they're on the sailboat or when they're moving and doing crazy stunts, like still able to do those. expositions, like, I don't know how they were able to do stuff like that. Like, it's hard to do exposition, especially with all this, uh, heavy dialogue that they already

have to sell. But when you're moving fast on, on a sailboat like that, or you're moving quick in a car and you're doing crazy stunts, like to be able to sell the exposition and, and to do that stuff, I was like so, so impressed with, uh, being able to, when it came to John David Washington, uh, and Robert Pattinson, just all the actors, Kenneth Brown, It was really impressive to watch. So while I was still, I'm not fully grasping everything, but still, like, just watching these actors do all this, like, yes, this is very tough right here, acting, right here, doing exposition.

But in those stunts and in those moments, like, impressive. And you can see those, like, you can see the expression on John David Washington and Patton's, and all these guys' faces when they're doing these, when they're doing these stunts, like, they're like, holy shit. This is freaking terrifying and crazy. but it's fun as well, and then they're also doing their expedition. Like, it's impressive to watch.

Mm-hmm. And I'm sure I would almost be certain that they must have done a bunch of, like, physical body language training to be able to do. Like, some of this stuff really makes you wonder because you have multiple sequences where it appears that things are happening forwards and backwards simultaneously in frame,

and some of that, I would imagine, has to be two shots, you know, stitched together somehow, but some of it has to be also in camera with people moving in reverse fashion, you know, and stuff like that. So, yeah, this is one of those movies where, like, I would absolutely adore a making of because, again, that action sequence towards the end, you know, that whole thing where they, the top of the tower, like, blows up,

or it, it blows up, reverses, and then the bottom blows. out and like it's yeah you they manage to do these things in camera where you're like mind is bent this is a true mind bender I saw it and you just explaining it is just blowing my mind yeah and it's like the like I had a click moment I would say when he

first goes to talk to Priya when we have that scene where he's talking to her husband and then she finds out that it's Priya and she's starting to explain things and then we go and talk to Clemens Posey and she gives him like the run through like early on I was like okay I'm getting this and as they explain more and

about like the motivation of the future and what's happening but then you get to look to the ending you know battle scene you know for you know this this future war and uh and then i'm like wait a minute did i click because now i'm sort of like wait a minute like i need to watch that whole scene where where uh Aaron Johnson and Fiona and Duref are like breaking down the plan like that whole thing I need to watch again already because I'm like this is so dizzy we had this conversation or with they're having a briefing about an hour ago. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And to that end, I think this is a movie where like the clickability is a tricky thing and you have to always, I think,

want to be invested in all the different things happening from the performances to the camera to the mechanics of the mcuffins and the gimmicks of the movie. Because I can understand

how this would lose you and then you'd just be like, there's just a bunch of shit going on and I don't know what, you know? But yeah, let's move on to Malik Curry. How do you guys feel

about the review? twist at the end. How do you feel, Andrew? When it comes to reveals and twists at the M4, excuse me, just when it comes to reveals and twists at the end of films in general, my whole thing is, does it fit in scope with what the movie was trying to be, and is it just trying to be a reveal, just a B reveal? And I thought that this one was really good with Neil and just how he's just constantly in a loop and saving.

I liked all that. But I actually, one of my favorite parts, just really quickly getting off to another thing. I loved the twist and reveal when we got that moment where they were at the airport. Yeah, it was at the airport, right? And we saw that John David Washington, or we saw that Neil took off the mask of one of the SWAT guys

that was working. We thought for Andre. And Neil was looking at him. And we're like, wait, who is that? He clearly knows who that is. And like, something's going on. And I thought maybe something was nefarious with Neil. And then that whole thing came back.

I thought that was one of my favorite reveals and twists, honestly, when it came to the entire film. So I would say that was my favorite reveal and twist in the entire film was, oh, shit, this was freaking the protagonist. It was John David Washington. And then we got the bullet, you know, through his arm and then that. And he's like, oh, I haven't lived, this moment hasn't happened yet. So, but I got to trust this. Okay, let you go. That was honestly my favorite reveal and twist.

I still love the one at the end. That was great. That were all working for me. Yeah, yes, yes. Now, that was very good, but that was my favorite reveal and twist. Just because I knew something was going on, I didn't know what was happening or who it was, but then the way, but I knew something was going to be revealed at some point, but that was my favorite one because I was on edge. I mean, it's a very exhilarating reveal.

Yeah. Like, when you start to piece, that's. together and you're like oh it's us because you can you can kind of gather i think one thing that this movie will give you in tighter rewatches if you watch it when you have a good recollection of the last time you watched it uh you know you'll start to see like oh so they got to go here like and that's that'll explain what happened before um but it's so good at using the reverse side like again i i they must have shot everything in each location on those days obviously because of scheduling, but also just to keep everything in order.

And yeah, I think the twist reveal at the very end is pretty cool. I mean, you know, the idea that it just fits the movie. You know, it's like the guy, the protagonist, he's the protagonist. You know, he's coming into this operation on one end. He's creating the entire operation and sending it back in time to himself on the other end. I think that's really fun and cool. But I do agree that like in terms of actual like exhilaration, it's so many little reveals throughout of, wait, that was actually you?

Oh my God, wait, that guy was actually you? Neil's been here the whole time? Like, we got to that thing at the end, and I'm, again, like, I like, I like the sort of question mark of, like, Neil's pretty much suggesting, like, yeah, I'm probably going to die. Like, you know, he's the way you're acting. Whatever, I got to trust. I got to have faith. Like, he's so effortless.

But, you know, there's that little tiny glimmer of like, well, maybe it'll go slightly different. also shows the contrast between Neil and Kenneth Brana as well. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Because, like, you know, you have two guys who are very much, like, in the moment of the movie, even though, I mean, Kenneth Brenna is receiving vibes from the future and all that sort of stuff. Like, they do make for, like, the emotional polls. It's like, Elizabeth Debicki is great, and she's in a tough situation. But, like, she and the protagonists are both on the more stoic.

and even though Sater is very much he's also like a kind of reserved he doesn't like go over the top he's still like intense in a different way and he's still like simmering and Neil is like a fun counter to that because he's just so like

kind of chill and bemused and just sort of like a man outside of time in a different way he's got like a doctor whoish energy and a very not not to draw like a one to one at all but he's just got this sort of like plucky sort of like amused, bemused vibe that I think is really fun. And I loved, I loved actually, again, for a movie that I think gets dogged for not being very personal or very character-driven in terms of, like, learning about the characters.

I like that, like, the further in we get, and by the end, I'm like, aw, I kind of want to, he says that thing about, like, I'll have, we'll have more adventures together. And I'm like, I kind of want to see you guys have more adventures together. You guys are really fun together. No, it was something I talked about in my, I agree with you. something I talked about in our initial review of the film. Their chemistry was just off the charts. They're so good together. I love their interactions.

And I also, I enjoyed the interactions between the protagonist and Sater, just seeing how com cool and collected he was just in crazy situations when he knew that he could literally kill him at any point and he just knew what to say and how to interact with them. It was just really, it was fun to watch when the stakes were so high. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Like, this is a great, on movie. This is a great sci-fi crazy

like this movie had a lot of different vibes in it that are just yeah so fun it's so well on theme yeah that espionage time travel and there's so many sci-fi it's just so many different things and no one's like getting all these beats at once

it's all the end of the frenetic pacing it's so much stuff at once like it's it was impressive to watch it yeah and just yeah I do just yeah to cap out this question I do appreciate the twist at the end I think that's very fun and I like him you know we're both working for me you know I'm

this sort of agent in the future and I just kind of have to trust my forward motion that it'll end up where I ended up you know it's fascinating and all that yeah oh so much so much honestly you could go on about this movie forever but Nathan Lewis

my high school senior photos were taken in a movie theater and were used as an ad for this movie when theaters were reopening after COVID. Cool that being said Do you think the reception of this movie would be different if it were released today rather than back in 2020? Yes. Do you?

Yeah, just because, I mean, we were in a different time, for sure. Everyone, I mean, it was a very paranoid time, for sure. I definitely think this movie would have made a lot more money because people would have been going to the movie theaters. But I also think, too, just that idea of, you know, feeling the movie and not overthinking. but yeah, if it were released today, would it have been received differently?

Like I said, I just think we were in a very paranoid time back then, so probably. But what about you? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I think this movie was put into a tough position because this isn't the Nolan. They made this sort of like the, oh, we're back.

The movies theaters are back and the world's safe again, even though it was like really early on. And most people, even despite all the conversations, controversy surrounding that whole couple years interlude. A lot of people seem to agree like, no, there's another time. And so I think this movie suffered a yes for just being

forced, being hailed as like, oh, we're saving cinema and then, you know, put into this position where, yeah, not everybody was willing to drive 40 miles to go see it. So there's that. I think just the reception of the movie itself, the contents of the movie, would have been better to

this just isn't the Nolan movie I would do that with. know if it was a god if it was obviously if it was like a batman but even if it's like a prestige or an interstellar like something with more heart maybe this one is like it is his most puzzle boxy it is his most out there his most timely wimy his most obtuse his most difficult to grasp at the outset especially if you're at the movies even though again the presentation the imax the 70 millimeter is very enveloping. And yeah, I mean, at the time, you probably

didn't even have as many opportunities to screen it that way. So I feel like, yes, I think everything would have been better for this movie had it been released at a more amenable time for all of cinema and the exhibition thereof. Because, yeah, like,

it just sets this movie up for some degree of failure. And it also, you know, it's like people are out there still thinking like, oh, Chris Renold and he's trying to bring this movie out like he's going to save cinema. And I'm like, he want to do that either. And it's just sad and upsetting, too, that this, we were talking a little bit about this before we were rolling, but it's sad and upsetting that this trouble wedge between him

and Warner Brothers about releasing it at the exact same time on demand and, rather on streaming and also in cinema at the same time, which he did not want to do. So, understandably, I get it. It was probably not the wisest choice from Warner Brothers and sucks at that relationship, which really stood the testament of time no longer there. I think now it's right with Universalities work with, so it sucks

that that happened. But yeah, you make a very good point. I definitely probably would have been received a lot. Like I said, it was a different, which it felt like a long time ago COVID, but it was only six years ago, but it probably would have been received a lot differently to today

than it would have been back then for sure. Yeah, it's like these paranoias, and the things this movie deals in were still things during that time but I feel like they're not this would be kind of a this can be a dreary watch depending on how you're looking at it

and what kind of things are grabbing you and so I feel like this sets you up for a much dreary or this is one of the least approachable Nolan movies I would say and so yeah for like the time in place I feel like this was maybe a bit too dreary a little bit

too obtuse if you save the it for a time when the world was open and B, like, I don't know what the world would have been like without COVID, but like nowadays, I feel like some of the ideas hit a little different and, you know, there's the whole thing about the algorithm.

I feel like there would be a greater drive to like appreciate and congregate. Like, this could have been a cultural moment more so if they had released it at a better time or if they'd held on to it, you know, because I think this movie does in some ways get dogged on. I can, again,

I see why it holds you in an arm's distance to a degree, but I feel like this one maybe does get some unfair shade in the Nolan filmog overall, and I don't think that helped at all. So, Raymond Terry. Tennant has grown to be known as Nolan's vibes movie in his filmography. It's my most revisited, partly due to that and the rewatchability of understanding the forward and backward timeline concept.

To that point, were you aware of the Rotas Sator Square before watching this movie. I truly was not. We're Googling. Yes. I'm going to Google. Well, I didn't notice the square, but when we were at the vault, I saw, I said in reverse, Rottas is Sater. I said Rotas and then you said Sator.

Oh, no, I said Sator, didn't I? Oh. And then you said Sater, good I. Because they'd been saying Sater, yeah. So then you said, I said Rottas and then you said Sator. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's Sater. Yeah, yeah.

Just because Tenant is spelled backwards, so I didn't know square, but I was just reading from the vault. The Rotas Square, also known as the Sater Square, is an ancient five-by-five Latin word puzzle. It features five-five-letter words that form a perfect palindrome. Sater, Areppo, Tenet, Opera, and Rotas. It can be read horizontally and vertically in all four directions. That's wild. Wow. Whoa.

What? Look at the middle, too. What? Crazy work. That's wild. That's so fucking cool. That's wild. What a great.

Oh, my God. What a great... Now to watch it again. Like, yeah. It complements the whole thing. Like, this is what's so fun about this to me. It's like, these are all features that complement the thing. Because, like, if you look at this, this kind of feels like what the script set out to be.

You know, these intersections that run forwards and backwards, these palindromes through time. And like direct confirmation too, because again, Arepo, Sator, or Tenet, the opera, rotos, like, oh my God, thank you for enlightening us here.

And that's what I'm saying, like, on rewatch, like, these are the things I'm looking forward to seeing it on top of the understanding of the exposition as much of the exposition as I can. But that was the only thing of the rotos that I, noticed when reading it backwards was in the vault that they went to in the at the airport for the paintings that was the only thing I noticed the this first viewing crazy work but yeah that is

that is insane yeah what a what a detail by no one like I may have come across it I took a latin in high school so like I may have come across this at some point or in a social studies but like definitely didn't have it in my random access memory and that is super duper cool and I and to your point like I would 100% agree with you you know this having been you know grown to be his vibes movie Patrick H. Willems did a whole video about this too and I get why this would be a movie that is

like to me I'm seeing that like this is one of the more highly revisitable Nolans because of how again I feel like this movie and my experience has been that this has picked up fun value like this was way more fun than I think anybody expects to have with this movie people I think view this as an exercise

and a homework assignment Whereas I had like a blast. So yeah, I think the fun is if you're willing to, again, get on board with all these world-class actors and talents and then have fun, you know, catching as much as you can and just vibing with the experience. Like it's a very alive back and forth between the, you know, the artist and the viewer. Yeah, I'm pretty easy to please. But also if I wouldn't have come into it knowing it's so complex and it's you're just not going to fully understand everything. the first time around and just feel it more than understand it the first time around. But like I said, I can't wait to watch this a few more times.

I'm really looking forward to it. So I can understand that notion of it's one of his most revisited film. Yeah. So I get that. All right. We're going to combine a few for this next one. So let's start out with Chase Schleich. Chase, the one Nolan movie.

I just have zero interest in watching. Never seen it. Never wanted to see it. no idea why, just didn't look any good, which is weird to say about a Nolan movie. Then Dewey, as well,

says, this might be a controversial opinion, but this is at the bottom of my Nolan rankings. It just felt very clunky, clunky, and too confusing. Might just be me, though. What do you guys think?

And finally, Mikoi, Ona, if someone told you they didn't enjoy Tenet, what's one aspect of the movie you would encourage them to appreciate on rewatch.

Just one really quickly, when it comes to films in general, I say there is no wrong opinion on if you do like it or if you didn't like it. All films are subjective. It's how did you connect with the film? How did you connect with the characters?

Did they resonate with you? Did you like the storyline? So there is no right or wrong answer. When it comes to that, if the film didn't hit for you or didn't vibe with you, I will never, even if I love a film, I will never feel disrespected or will never hate on anyone for that.

That's a very fair opinion to have on anything when it comes to film and when it comes to anything that is of art. So that is fair to say. And even if you're not interested in it, totally cool. So, yeah, that's totally fine to have that subjective opinion. I mean, there's movies that people love that I don't care for and there's movies I love that other people don't care for. and that's what makes the movie world go around, right? So that's fine. And when it comes to something that I would say,

something that was the other part of the... What's one aspect of the movie? You'd encourage them to appreciate on rewatch. Or first watch. What's up? Or first watch, even in Chase's case. I love what I was... I did just read that.

That part of it from Nolan, just do not. And I know I've set that part so many times already in this is don't, you're not going to fully understand but feel it. I think that is honestly the best advice. Because once I stopped trying to understand everything and just went with the flow of resonating with the characters and not fully, you know, understanding everything of how the world works and the storyline, I was able to just let go and really enjoy the, the action sequences, which were seriously mind-blowing. Some of the best action and some of the best visuals I've ever seen.

And I'm not just saying that for recency bias. I really, like, genuinely mean that. It was incredible to watch. I can't even imagine how much dedication, hard work, and time that Nolan put into it. I'm going to watch a lot of behind the scenes when it comes to this. But, yeah, I would say that would probably be my thing I would say for a first-time watch. and when it comes to a rewatch, I would say, especially for myself,

just paying attention to, like, the things in the background, like that thing I caught with the rotas or whatever, just I can't wait to see stuff like that. I'm like, oh, there's that in the background. Oh, there's that. I just, I love picking up little things like that. And now the one thing that we were told earlier about that, that puzzle piece, I can't wait to find little things like that.

and to look up stuff too as well after I've watched it four, five, six times just to see what I didn't pick up from. But what about you? I mean, yeah, I would encourage anybody who maybe saw it and didn't like it. I feel like actually a common, like I remember the first viewing

kind of feeling similarly in that like I was like impressive, great exercise but also like overwhelming and again, kind of dreary especially on a first watch potentially. And there's so much happening. It's a little confusing and it's kind of hard to hear all the dialogue sometimes

and their accents and yada, yada, yada, it's overwhelming. The second time I would say, I'm trying to think of like an aspect. I mean, I guess I would kind of encourage somebody to hone in on the sort of fun that can be had when you free yourself from caring too much about like collecting all the data. Like this is a really fun filmmaking endeavor. I feel like, and I feel like, from my experience, at least, way, way more fun to revisit than I would have ever expected. Like, I had a lot of fun trying to decode that. I think this is a movie that you have to want to meet halfway.

You don't have to want to like it even. You just have to want to meet it halfway. So for somebody like Chase, I'm like, I would consider, even though you've had no interest in seeing it, giving it a shot, and maybe doing it at home in a controlled environment where if you do feel the need to go back and look at certain details or pause, take a break, watch with the subtitles.

Like that might be a really cool. Like if you like, you know, if you're a cinephile to any degree, if you are interested in a Nolan just on the strength of that, it has a great ensemble. It has some truly, you know, breathtaking and, you know,

I don't know what the ingenuous action, action with a lot of ingenuity. So it's worth the ride just for the vibes alone. But I think, yeah, if you can really lock into like the fun of, trying to, you know, go along for this ride. And if you can let yourself get swept up in it, you kind of have to understand going in that you will just get swept up in the current at a certain point.

Which I did now. No matter how far, you know, you've gone to collect all the details. So I don't know. I guess it's just the fun factor. Like, I never would have expected the rewatch to be so fun. And I had a blast. And, you know, that's partly due to the filmmaking. But that's partly due to, like, if you have that initial viewing under your belt,

you have the impression of what's going on. You have whatever vague stuff you collected the first time. And I think that creates the gateway to a way more fun and rewarding set of rewatches. Like, this is one of the more rewatchable movies I've ever seen. And it's like a bit of a barrier to entry that, again, not everybody's going to want to rewatch a movie they didn't love the first time. You've got to kind of want to go there. But I do think that this is, like, of all the movies out there,

I would say this is definitely one that will reward you. and that I would argue you would probably like more, appreciate more, have more fun with on a second viewing. And I don't know what one aspect even to attribute that to. That's a great point. There's been films in the past that I didn't like initially, but the second or third time I watched it, I was like, I've grown a fond appreciation for this film.

Like, Dark Night Rises, I didn't love it the first time. But the more times I've watched it, I've grown a lot more of an appreciation for that film. Even Harry Potter and the Gobloid of Fire. I wasn't crazy about it the first time I watched. It's probably still on the lower tier of Harry Potter's, but I appreciate it a lot more than more times I've watched and picked up on things.

Those are just two examples, but I wouldn't say films that really weren't for me. I haven't watched two, three or four times, but I do like going back to films that I didn't, wasn't crazy about the first time around, and then the second, third, or fourth time. I'm like, wow, it's crazy to see how, as I've changed as a person, as I've grown,

my opinion on this film has also grown and changed as well. So it's fascinating to revisit films as we change as human beings. Yeah. I would say, yeah, one aspect of the movie, I encourage someone to appreciate a rewatch is that it's just way more fun and exciting than it would seem. I guess that's what I would say. And for somebody like Chase, to compel them to watch it a first time,

I would just say that there's just so much quality work. Like even if this looked meh or you know, you're just not vived with it, I would say if you like Christopher Nolan or whatever, if you like cinema, something like this is actually worth a try because it's doing so much and so much work went into it and not in a way. Work goes into everything. But like they achieve, even if you aren't enjoying like the story characterization, they achieve so much on screen here that is fascinating to behold and really well mapped out at least in the. that again, I get the sense that they had a map, even if you don't think the map translates fully into the final product. I think that it, the more, like, seeing this now, I'm like, I feel confident that the more I watch this movie, the more sense it would make,

or the more just I would kind of intrinsically click with it. So I would say, yeah, like, even if you're not interested, I'd encourage you to give this one to go, especially in a lower stakes environment. And I would say, yeah, just like, go in with that already in mind that, yeah, you don't need to stress yourself out about being too smart to like you know this is the movie trying to be just outsmart me

and I've got to collect all these details and just go in and be ready for your mind to be bent I do like the idea too that you said even if it's not on the first watch you do it on the second watch because you already have the information of watching it in a controlled environment you just pause a few times here and there

or even rewatch the scene just to collect that information again like ah okay that makes a little more just because again the the pacing of this film is so relentless and frenetic, so I think that's a very wise idea on rewatch or even first time viewing as well. So I think that's not a bad idea.

Yeah, yeah. Golly. I think this is the poster child for like tough first watch, great rewatchability. Yeah. No, like I've said it many times. I can't wait to rewatch this film.

I even rewatch it tonight. Yeah. All right. Jaden Rhodes. Jaden Rhodes. Jaden Rhodes. This movie really worked for me. I always found this movie

just a little too confusing, like it felt confusing for the sake of confusing, and it just doesn't really work for me. But I'd be lying if the moments in the movie that are reversed are amazing to watch, and I bet those scenes were a lot of fun to shoot. But I'm curious if y'all agree, and what's y'all's favorite and least favorite Nolan movie? I do agree. It was definitely, I was confused at points. I'm not going to lie, that's why I've mentioned several times that I'm going to rewatch it, several more times, just so I can understand things.

I'm probably going to watch some, I'll even watch some YouTube videos and stuff like that, just to have a little more of a bearings and an understanding. But, and just watching those scenes and how they did that, whether it came to the fight-to-fight choreography and the action sequences, I just mind-bending, mind-blowing what Nolan was able to achieve. And the stunt work, just so incredible.

so I do agree with you that definitely confusing moments I'm not disagreeing with that which else favorite and least favorite Nolan movie favorite I know the easy choices to always go with the Dark Night I still think I think that is his best film

my personal favorite is Batman begins I'll still I'll always stick on on that hell it's just my favorite Batman film personally yeah comes to least favorite That's a tough rank, man. That's a tough rank.

I mean, I've won. I got to see following you still. I don't. I might have seen it a long time ago, but I don't really remember. I love the prestige. Prestige is great. Memento, phenomenon that movie deals at times. Well, Inception deals in time.

It's been a long time since I saw Dunkirk. remember liking it maybe it would put that i don't i don't know it's hard it's hard to put uh when i say least favorite i like them all insomnia i love i love that movie i love memento like it's it's hard embarrassment of riches yeah it's it's it's it's hard to put a when i'd say least favorite when i if i did pick dunker guys i still really like that movie so it's it's hard to pick a least favorite but i guess i would just say my least favorite good movie of of christopher nolan's like guess for right now is Dunkirk, but I still really enjoyed it. What about you? Oh, God, I don't know, man. I mean, my favorite might be Inception, especially just for that rush of being there and be like,

whoa, like, inception. Like this, it's interesting. You can kind of chart little like threads, I think, and to some degree in the Nolan filmog. It's like Dunkirk and Oppenheimer, historical, you know, retellings, you know, Tenet and Inception kind of locked together for me as these like, weird sci-fi, timey-wimey James Bond things. Obviously, the Batman trilogy, you know, Memento and Insomnia have these sort of twisted, tangible crime elements. And I feel like following, I'm told, sort of has that as well, you know, and then interstellar, kind of in a league of its own.

You could put it in with, you know, an inception or a tenant if you wanted to, or even in a weird way, sort of like the Odyssey in terms of, I haven't seen The Odyssey yet, but in terms of like how epically vast-reaching, very different genres. Yeah, that's so tough, man. Favorite might be interstellar. It's hard to argue with, you know, Dark Night or Batman Begins.

I mean, I love the prestige as well. That's a movie I'm due for a rewatch on. Least favorite, like, I don't know, it might be insomnia just because I have only seen it the once, and I remember liking it. I might have been a little too young at the time to really kind of get it or to appreciate it. And, you know, that's his only remake, I think,

of a, you know, like it's like a Swedish movie or something like that. some it's yeah it's his only like re rework of something but i remember that movie being great so like it's it's tough and i would love to go back to it now because you know we've seen nolan in a more full you know and scopic form whereas you know insomnia is a movie that's you know very much contained to a very specific environment but yeah you're correct i i feel like you know it's it's it's really hard and i feel like there aren't a there's not really a worst one there's just yeah kind of like the least well-rounded or the least successful. Like I like the Dark Night Rises a lot.

I might put that on the lower side just because it's a messier movie, insomnia on the lower side, because I have less association with it. I mean, like, I don't think I would actually rank Tenet very low because I actually really enjoyed this. Like, this was so fun and I loved how alive. And like, I think it's fun to have to kind of work at it a little bit. It's like listening to a song that's in like a wacky time signature. And you're like, I don't quite understand.

but then when you get it, when you understand how that rhythm works, it's really satisfying. That's a good point. It's incredible. The rankings on his films are so high. Wow. And like Interstellar is a movie, like, where the first time I was like, you know, really beautiful and really scopic, but, you know, I don't know about certain things. And, like, watching that movie, it's been a minute since I've seen it most recently. I've seen a couple times.

And, like, that movie has appreciated in value for me. It's really hard to pick a... Yeah, the emotional beats. I remember that too when watching Interstellar. I did not fully understand everything, but the emotional beats really struck with me for sure. Yeah, I like that he aims with it. I mean, I get what you're saying here,

and I feel like this is very much what a first time watch of this movie kind of can feel like. I felt some of these things the first time, you know, that it is confusing, and I could see why you're looking at this and sort of feeling like it's just kind of being confusing for confusing's sake,

especially on the heels of something like an inception, which got, you know, a lot of praise for being intricate, but that is not quite as unattainably intricate as this movie, like, this movie to me is going like, oh, you thought Inception was complicated. This is complicated. So, like, I get why those barriers would keep the movie from working.

I, again, just, yeah, I would say, like, the moments that you pointed out here, you know, the beauty of watching them do the forward and reverse things and seeing the kind of fun of that is, I think, the key to ride if you go back in that will then help you to get past the confusion. And it's still like a bit confusing, but watching this now,

I was not sitting here going like, they're just trying to throw shit at us to make us confused. I felt like, no, this is confusing. And even sort of, I can imagine the fun in the writer's room of being like, do we have this quite right? And I feel like they do.

That's just me on this watch, feeling like they do. No, it's like, no, this is going to be inception on steroids. but that's why I was also like I got to imagine the storyboarding must have been so ambitious, so elaborate. That's why I can't wait to watch a lot of behind the scenes stuff from this.

Like I can't even imagine the scope of how all that worked. It's so crazy. But I appreciate it too. Even if I wasn't even a fan in this movie, I appreciate the hard work and dedication that went into this. And I can say that about any film that doesn't jive for me

or that isn't for me. I always appreciate that. the hard work and dedication that goes into filmmaking. Well, and for a film like this, too, there is so much even if, again, what they're trying to do and how they're articulating it through character isn't necessarily

working for you, it's almost impossible not to acknowledge, like, so much expert craftsmanship went into this. And yeah, at least on this viewing, I would encourage you to at least, I would argue from my perspective that this is not confusing for the sake of being confusing,

even though it very much can present that way. So I think that, yeah, if you can get past that notion, it may reward you if you want to go in again. We got one more from Jay Rushden. What up, Jay? Question, why is this movie called Tennant?

Because David Tennant is not in the movie. I agree. It's false... Missed opportunity. I mean, I am now going to sue Christopher Nolan for false advertising. I did not see David... David Tennant anywhere presented in this film.

He legally changed his name from David Tennant to David. Tenet. Yes. Wasn't there someone who, I can't remember which movie.

He would have to change his name to Davod Tenant so that both of his names are a palindrome. I forgot, wasn't there someone who actually sued

a studio for, I forgot what the reason was and maybe you guys, and maybe you remember or you guys will remind me in the comments,

someone sued a movie studio for an actress was going to be in a movie and then she was, they showed her in the advertising, she was like,

barely in the movie, like I spent my money on it. I forgot which movie that was. Do you remember that story or no? I know stories like this, but I cannot pull what specific you're pulling from. I can't remember that, but now it's going to, I'll look it up when we're done,

but you guys remind me in the comment section, but now I'm going to have to pull that on, Christopher Nolan. There was no David Tennant to anywhere. Yes. Just a couple. Oh, some fun trivia. A couple fun facts. before we go out here.

It would have been cool to see David Tennant. I would like to see David Tennant in a Christopher Nolan movie at some point. Has he done a Nolan? I don't think he has, but you read that while I'm looking this up. And Matt Smith, get him in there too. The production team purchased and then crashed a real 747 airplane into a hangar. I remember hearing some about this. I couldn't remember fully.

The stunt was all practical effects, no visual effects, or CGI director, Sir, Christopher Nolan had originally planned to use miniatures and set piece builds. However, while scouting for locations in Victorville, California, the team discovered a massive array of old planes, and it became apparent that it would actually be more efficient to buy

a real plane of the real size. That's what I'm saying, dude. Perform the sequence for real. I appreciate that dedication and hard work. What a scene. Yeah, oh yeah. And it's simple. But it felt real, it felt real. It felt practical. That's why I said this,

But I know Nolan does not rely on CGI and he doesn't like to go to CGI, but as we were watching, I'm like, this feels so damn real. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a situation where you're like, hey, what's the right effect for this? What's the right effect? And, hey, we happen to luck out on the fact that this was the most cost-efficient way to do it. Let's just drive this plane into this hangar. And it looks really cool, and it's like it's literally a grounded thing compared to like the Dark Night Rises mid-Arial freaking thing, which is so elaborate. and also breathtaking in its own way.

But yeah, like the plane thing was great. And yeah, such a cool, tangible stunt and, like, the way it's, like, whizzing, like, racking up those cars and stuff like that. Yeah. Also, apparently, in addition to performing stunts backwards, the main cast actually learned how to speak in reverse for their roles.

Sir Kenneth Obronach not only learned how to speak backwards, but also had to do it with his character's Russian accent. That's wild. I wonder if they teach courses and how to learn reverse. but just really quickly I did look. It said movie fans sued universal pictures for false advertising over the 2019 film yesterday because actress on Adairmas

appeared in promotional trailer. That's right. Which Hamish Patel in this movie Starve Yesterday brought it back around. He's their buddy with who's like waiting for her on the boat. Ah, yes, yes, yes. Waiting to fire that flare. He's, I think, in the Odyssey as well, too.

Golly, gang. This was quite... It was amazing. Yeah, this was... What an experience. Like I said, I can't wait to rewatch it and just get a full more understanding and grasp of just everything from the story perspective,

but love the characters, the action, the stunt work, Christopher Nolan. Yeah, I like the characters this time, too. I liked everybody more... I got more association with a lot of characters this time. Yeah. So, hell yeah, guys. Leave us your thoughts on Tenet.

Where does this rank in your Christopher Nolan filmography, assessment, what are your favorite moments? What works for you? What doesn't work so much? How many times have you watched it? And how rewarding was each rewatch?

Anyway, appreciate you joining us, and we'll see you back at the beginning. We're going to go start the thing over. These are the blue lights. We've actually been going backwards this whole time. Now I'm going to turn the lights red, and we're going to go forwards, but backwards through the movie in reverse.

We'll see you next time. Later, bye. Peace. Later, guys. You know, after after, if, no, pop, that.