The Reel Rejects - TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY (1991) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING! Special Edition

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER & JAMES CAMERON REUNITE!! Terminator 2 Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:  https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ree...lrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thereelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/thereelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Terminator 2: Judgment Day Special Edition Reaction, Recap, Commentary, & Spoiler Review w/ Roxy Striar & Tara Erickson! Roxy Striar & Tara Erickson watch Terminator 2 the very first time, experiencing one of the most iconic action sci-fi films ever made!  Directed by James Cameron (Titanic, Avatar, Aliens), T2 stars Arnold Schwarzenegger (Predator, Total Recall) as the reprogrammed T-800, Linda Hamilton (The Terminator, Dante’s Peak) as a fierce Sarah Connor, Edward Furlong (American History X) as young John Connor, and Robert Patrick (The X-Files) as the terrifying T-1000. This Special Edition version expands on the legendary original with extra scenes and deeper character moments, and Roxy & Tara experience it all for the first time! They react to the film’s most unforgettable moments and quotes, including: "I’ll be back." "Come with me if you want to live." "Hasta la vista, baby." "Trust me." "John, fire in the hole!" "I know now why you cry, but it’s something I can never do." "There’s no fate but what we make for ourselves." "Get down!" & MORE! Roxy & Tara also break down Terminator 2’s most iconic scenes, such as: Opening Future War Sequence (Skynet’s war against humanity in 2029), The Bar Scene: T-800 Gets His Leather & Bike (Bad to the Bone), The Mall Chase: T-800 vs. T-1000 and the bike/truck chase in the canal, Sarah Connor’s Escape from the Mental Institution, Cyberdyne Labs Destruction, Helicopter vs. Truck Freeway Chase, The Steel Mill Final Showdown, & Beyond! From its groundbreaking visual effects to its emotional depth, Terminator 2: Judgment Day has earned its place as one of the greatest films ever made. Join Roxy & Tara as they dive into the action, the drama, and the iconic moments that have captivated generations of moviegoers. Whether you’re revisiting this classic or discovering it alongside them, this reaction is a must-watch! Follow Roxy Striar YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TheWhirlGirls Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roxystriar/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/roxystriar Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:23 and it's reminding me of how I felt going into the next Chucky movies after everyone one ended where it's just like excitement like what are we going to do where is this going to go and how are we going to get there and I guess there's only one way to find out so are you ready for it Tara I'm ready all right here we go man dude no so good that's so sad I really didn't like seeing him wow what an unbelievable script that was insane right um yeah I can't wait talk about it will you text Greg and let him know
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Starting point is 00:02:18 We got all different kinds of good stuff over there. Greg is going to pop in, I think. He said he would. So. Tara. Yeah. Terminator 2 Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:30 Better than one Yeah dude Like so good I'm like Do we hold off doing the reviews No no no he'll pop it when he pops in Okay Yeah man
Starting point is 00:02:43 This movie to me Was perfect from beginning to end I very rarely will be watching a movie And call out like This is really good writing They thought that through That like Because normally we would be calling it out
Starting point is 00:02:58 like, oh, why would she know how to break out of the psych ward? Why would John Connor know how to like reload a gun? And it's like, oh, they set it all up so perfectly. Yeah, they explain themselves. They totally explained it. It all made sense. And every move they made was just, it was really smart. None of it was like dumb.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And to me, it just shows that obviously writer, director, producer on the same page of like, we're going to make a badass film and it's going to make sense. Well, the writer-director-producer are all the same person. Yes. And normally that's why I always say that if they are, then you don't have to go to the dumb-dum upstairs and try to have to explain yourself. I think the only one thing that we did call out
Starting point is 00:03:41 was that he was saying call out for John now. And he didn't need to do that. Because they had already set up and told us he doesn't need to do that. Yeah. And he doesn't care about human life. So we know he would have just taken her life and called out. But plot-wise, we needed it.
Starting point is 00:03:57 so I'm totally fine with that. Yeah. Like, you know, if there is no other way to get around that, that's fine. I'm so emotionally attached to so many of these characters. Like, not only as I attached to the Terminator, but even the foster care parents who were kind of douchey, I still was like, oh, that's a bummer. Majorly, Dyson's character and his family,
Starting point is 00:04:20 I got so attached to them so quick. Totally. I'm curious, I want to go check back in with the people that helped and gave the weapons in the vehicle. to them um you know what i'm talking about you want to check in with the people who gave weapons in the vehicle to them oh those people yes yes yes attached to them too because we hear about like oh she's a shack up with people and then like learn all these things and she goes and there's the whole all the weapons i really like that one guy he's like you come here and you ruin my
Starting point is 00:04:48 whole life or whatever i'm like i cared about that guy too like there's just so many people in passing that we meet where i'm like i'm i'm invested in every one of you guys that's really smart dialogue giving us tiny backstories for people too um yay this is gonna be gregg's favorite part of the day because he gets to talk about terminator too which is something that he's been dying to talk about i see it's right here thanks yeah no problem um yeah so it was it was really cool that all of these like uh smaller roles that we immediately yeah they made us care or even that we absolutely hated who licked her face you know yeah immediately i was like cool if you guys happy for him to die Rooted for him to die.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Right, which is why when I brought up, like, in the middle of the film, I was like, all it takes is three minutes to make you care. And that's what they did with Dyson and the family. Doesn't take a long time. Don't need tons and tons of dialogue. You want the chair? To make you care. And they did a really good job of doing that with across the board.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Craig, we just watched your favorite movie of all time. Might be my favorite movie. Wow. Sorry, there. How are you guys doing? It was so good. Nice to see you guys. It was so good. It's sad, dude. When did they have to, like, put him down? Like, that was just so sad.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Sounds like a dog. Sad. She just made me think of, like, Lassie or something. It was, but it was so good. Better than, the first one was excellent. This one was even better. Clearly, higher budget. Plot was even stronger.
Starting point is 00:06:17 The character development was better. The visuals were better, especially on the movement of both the Terminators who looked so much better in this one when they were moving and didn't have that weird stop motion thing was the first one. Totally. That's kind of how we felt. Why do you love this movie so much? Explosions are wild in this. I mean, you know, it's weird in the entire time doing
Starting point is 00:06:37 this channel, I don't think I've ever discussed Terminator 2 this entire. Really? Man, why don't you grab a chair? I've given, like, I've been sitting for the past few hours. So you'd rather be on your knees? Yeah, yeah. No, my back's kind of hurt if I'm just sitting. And plus, I just
Starting point is 00:06:53 I like how weird this looks. Oh. Like how strange this looks, guys. This looks weird. Yeah, I mean, okay, I need to get my head in the Terminator 2. Get your head in the game. Get your head in the game. I grew up on this movie.
Starting point is 00:07:06 So when did you, give us your backstory? Like, when did you watch the first one? When did you watch the second one? I saw the second one first, undoubtedly. We used to have a thing called laser discs, which are the, I don't know if you guys know what those are. You used to have the thing. Everybody had laser discs.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Not everybody. They were expensive. I know people here who didn't know. Aaron doesn't know, but he's a tiny little boy. That's because of his age. Yeah. I'm not saying everybody had, but everybody, okay, go ahead. Tell the people what laser discs are.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I love, some people don't know. Laser discs were like before DVDs, there were these giant, they looked like records, but they were more expensive than records. And you'd have to pop it in, and Terminator 2, it cuts off. After he shoots the guard when they're trying to go to Sarah Connors,
Starting point is 00:07:50 the mental institution, and he goes, he'll live, then it would cut. And then you have to put in the second disc of Terminator 2. to continue it and my dad he got me Terminator 2 with the laser disc just one for me and then one for him that's and I was
Starting point is 00:08:03 like four years old so this is like a heavy nostalgia movie for me but to me the second one not the first one yeah the first one I like the second one I love the first one too well this one I think is just a combination of everything
Starting point is 00:08:19 spectacle heart the protector the menace I think the CGI still really holds up i think the effects of the terminator are still really good like and there's such a great emotional journey sarah conner is phenomenal in this movie um this is arnold's like best performance because only he can find a way to make a terminator feel like progressively become human by the end of it but i'm so curious because you didn't see the first one before this i feel like it wouldn't have hit as hard for me because in the second one it's the transition from watching him be
Starting point is 00:08:51 this ruthless killer yeah not ruthless because this is a machine but he is after that. Oh my God, isn't that brilliant, though? When they go to the hallway and then Sarah's like, no, they're like, oh, my God, it's so smart. But I'm surprised at that hit for you having not seen the first one. Well, I had the contact. I mean, I was just a little kid. So when I was a little kid, I didn't, everything I'm telling you, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I didn't appreciate to this. Like, when I'm a kid, I'm like, oh, my God, Terminator, cool, freeway chasing. Do you recognize the streets of L.A. at all when you were watching this? Yeah, like gallery and stuff. L.A. River all day, man. And the first one, Tara said, that's my. apartment. I did. I'm like, cut it. Tara, Jesus. I mean, I don't want to completely overtake your guys. Tara and Sarah rhyme. You could be Tara Connor. But you guys watch. Could you guys at all predict what maybe might have been a deleted scene? There's one scene in here that I was shocked is a deleted scene. What do I mean? We didn't get to see the scene or it's in this and it was deleted. The special edition was this is one of this was one of the first special editions, not not the first one, but one.
Starting point is 00:09:55 one of the first to make a special edition release where they just seamlessly blend what people want it for the Lord of the Rings movies is what this movie did. Is it the one thing that doesn't make sense to me? There's a lot of, there's a few scenes in here that are deleted scenes that they put back in. Oh, you go first. Well, Tara knows the one scene that I called out when we're watching it is when he says to her call John's name, but he could just have killed her and called John's name. So that scene didn't make full sense because we've already seen his powers that he can do that. Why did not make sense to you? I mean, that's not a deleted scene, but why did they not make sense?
Starting point is 00:10:28 It doesn't make sense because he would have just killed her and taken her voice and her look like he did with the foster mom. And here he didn't. He says to have, call him, call him, call John, which is not what we've seen as a machine, not what he would do. It's not horrible, but I thought that that was going to be it because people probably called that out. No. Okay. I mean, I guess that could be a bit of a, in the moment, I don't mind it. I suppose, what's the giveaway?
Starting point is 00:10:55 The giveaway is when the, the feeder on the lava, right? Yes. For plot, it's great. It just doesn't make sense that he wouldn't have just killed her. Okay, well, some deleted scenes. Well, is it in the beginning or the end? It's throughout the whole movie. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:08 All right. You guys won. I don't, I actually don't know. I thought maybe they don't show us all of him lowering down into the lava or something. No, these are two biggest scenes. I don't know. It's such an important scene. No, the, okay, I don't know the order for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Okay, Kyle Reese's scene is not in the theatrical cut. When they're kissing. Oh, really? I love that scene. That entire dream scene. And I believe the reasoning was James Cameron thought that if they put that in there, for people who didn't see Terminator 1, they might feel left out. Like that scene really only works strong if you've seen Terminator 1.
Starting point is 00:11:46 There's so many scenes that only works strong if you've seen Terminator 1. Like the hallway scene. which hallway scene the one you were just referencing where she scared crapless but they established the context when the cops are interrogating her just don't think it would work as well
Starting point is 00:12:02 and it probably wouldn't hit as strong and I don't think this would hit as strong but you'd still understand that this is the father of her children definitely but James Cameron likes to devise sequels where you specifically wouldn't need the context because I got that with the Kyle Reese scene
Starting point is 00:12:16 there's also some stuff I love that scene so much I would have been so bummed if that wasn't There's also, okay, the scene where they killed the dog. It's not a theatrical cut. Yeah, I hated that. We didn't really see him kill the dog, though. We just see the Max call.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I heard the noise and I just freaking hate it. I can't be doing that. The scene where the Terminator learns to smile. They caught that? Yeah. What? That's one in my favorite scenes. We love that so much. I love that scene. This is the major one they changed. This is
Starting point is 00:12:47 the one where I feel like they should have kept it in. Even though I I technically prefer the theatrical just as a as a little bit more of a, because there's some scenes in here that I feel like they could have gone without, but the theater, they cut the scene where they take the chip out of his brain. In the theatrical? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They changed the line beforehand to be like, the terminator, the terminator can just learn. So that way they don't have to do the whole scene where they take the chip out. The chip scene is so important because it shows the mom finally trusting her son. Yeah, it's a very important scene. It's so important. I agree.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I don't think we would have gotten to the other stuff. Seamlessly, I wouldn't have believed that she's leaning on her son more if it wasn't for that moment. Yeah. Wow, that's crazy. That's insane. I mean, it was still like that biggest movie the year and still very much beloved without that scene. And the crazy part when they shot it, the is a fun fact. I know so much about this movie.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That mirror, that is Linda Hamilton twin sister who they hired so that way they could get those shots down. What? Yeah. They didn't have an actual mirror they can use When they were doing the shots So she's just on the other side They're mirroring each other Yeah, it's a one way
Starting point is 00:13:56 I didn't know Linda Hamilton had a twin sister What's her name? I have no idea It doesn't matter She's deleted from the movie Wow She means nothing It's like all of your siblings
Starting point is 00:14:05 You know Who needs to know their names So at the very end Jetons guy At the very end when he says The chip They must have had to cut that out too or do they say that in the theatrical?
Starting point is 00:14:21 They just don't show us doing it. The context of the chip is that they have to destroy. The context still exists because that's what they used. I'm so glad you had us watch the special edition. This is so much better. It wasn't one minute too long, so nothing needed to be cut. Oh, Miles Dyson's first scene with his kids when it's like beachfront, daytime, he's bonding with them. And they're like, let's go to Raging Waters.
Starting point is 00:14:44 That scenes cut. What? Yeah. That's the whole. I was so sad for him. That's what I love is this movie's, like, complex, complexity, like when Sarah's trying to kill him, but you know Miles is like, he has no idea what he's doing. It's like, it's that theory, it's that theory of like, if you went back in time and tried to kill Hitler, but this guy doesn't know he's Hitler, you know, and that's a little bit weird. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Like, if you want to back to kill Hitler, that'd be a good thing. Hitler knew. Hitler did know. But then I'm saying, like, Miles Dyson doesn't know that that's the, where his, you know. his actions are going to lead. He just, he feels like he's just doing the right thing. In some ways, yes, I said this to Tara during it because it was interesting because
Starting point is 00:15:24 we just watched, not just watch, but I've seen Oppenheimer. I'm assuming both of you guys have seen Oppenheimer. Mm-hmm. And Greg? Yeah, I love it. Okay. I saw it. I was like, I think you saw it.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And looking at the people who are working on the atomic bomb and not everybody knows exactly what they're doing. But Miles does say at some points, like that it's kind of like a don't ask, don't tell. And he, so I'm not saying that. that he should be killed, I think he was great. And that was so sad for his death. But he knows he's doing something that's not completely above board kosher.
Starting point is 00:15:56 He just doesn't know what and doesn't want to ask, which I thought was an interesting thing to add in. For all of us in our own lives, to think about, like, what could be the ramifications of some of our actions, even the things that we're not fully aware of. Yeah. That's great.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Like soar.com, taking away all my jobs. Like what? Like what? SOAR.com, it's a visual effects AI program that dropped a couple days ago and you can't make an account because they got too filled with too many people doing it and I saw some of the effects and they look pretty good
Starting point is 00:16:28 but it is to your point what they're saying is like You make visual effects? No, no, no. I'm saying that if you sign up for SORA you can text prompt and effect very easily and they look pretty pretty freaking decent. So, meaning you, could make something and just type in, hey, I need this person to look like they're walking down Budapest and have a hat on and it looks pretty good. And you can make things pretty quick,
Starting point is 00:16:54 meaning you don't need to hire me as an actor or you. To do that, you can just text prompt a thing. So it is, it is wild like when I went to go look at it, but I'm just, I'm only bringing that up mostly because it was a joke, but also because of what you're saying, we have to like, in people thinking through that, they, we all knew that once. AI is sort of brought into our lives, it's going to be taking away aspects of jobs that people do now as well as in this movie, it would do that exact same thing. Because Dyson very clearly talks about, I don't know if that's a cutout scene, but he goes, imagine no more pilots that are hung over. And he's like, and they can absolutely fly the plane. There wouldn't be like accidents,
Starting point is 00:17:37 kind of what he was like saying. And that's also a form of kind of in our world now. It's odd that we have a lot of similarities and this movie was made in a long-ass time ago. Yeah. Definitely. That's crazy. But you are right. That is it is taking out the user error,
Starting point is 00:17:54 but it's also taking away the jobs, which we do see more and more every day now, which is why this is such a relevant movie today. Like driving down the streets, you guys see all those Waymos, those self-driving cars instead of Uber drivers or whatever people are calling the Waymos now. So I see what you're saying, Tara, totally.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's just like really relevant today. What he was trying to do, we can very much so relate. You don't know the ramifications of your actions when you're creating something. He didn't realize he was creating what was going to be SkyNet, right? Like he thinks he's doing something that will help people. For the better good. But that ends up not being, which was, it was interesting to watch.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Well, that's one of the cautionary tales that is very relevant to the AI discussion today. It's like, this is going to help out jobs. It's got everything you guys are talking about, but then bam, it can be, but it's like the very extreme example. That's why whenever you hear people in these being like, it's Skynet, it's Cyberdime. This is what they're referring to. Right, when we heard Skynet, I was like, that's Skynet. I heard that so many times. It was also really cool, Greg, because, like, mentioning Skynet or things that people refer to,
Starting point is 00:18:51 I've seen this Linda Hamilton outfit, her Sarah Connor outfit. Oh, black one? Yeah. With, like, Halloween parties and whatnot. And same thing with the Terminator in this one, with the sunglasses and all of that. I'm like, oh, my God, anytime I've asked somebody, and they're like, yeah, I'm the Terminator. And I'm like, I don't know really what that means. I think she's so bad.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Oh, the scene where she gets beat up. up in the mental hospital. Disgusting. Oh, Tara and I really struggle with that. That's a deleted scene too. Not the scene where he licks her, but the scene where they put, wait, the licking wouldn't make sense if we didn't see that part, though.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Well, you could set it up that he's creepy, though. Imagine us not seeing it and then maybe he's just like. Yeah. It's an abuse of power all around. Totally. I feel like the second movie doesn't work as well in the theatrical cut.
Starting point is 00:19:39 This is how people are mad at me for the Lord of the Rings choice of the extended edition instead of the theater. Oh, yeah. They're just bad at you. Not mad at anybody else here. Just me. That is the ultimate trio, right? We're the ultimate trio for the Lord of the Rings fan right now.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The fellowship of the rejects. Absolutely. We're the perfect trifecta right now. Oh, my God. But, yeah, and I think there's such cool subversion of storytelling as well. The very concept of you have the Terminator, which is the thing to fear. And then you go into this story where the father figure, because he never had a father, ends up becoming the Terminator.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That ends up being his father figure. And this is so much about our relationship with artificial intelligence where there has to be a, like, you would never suspect a true character arc to come out of this. But they become this like weird misfit, almost James Gunsey family when they go to Skynet and they're taking over. You're like, this is like a weird band of family right here. I love it. Well, there's a one VO monologue from Sarah, where she's watching. watching them and she's like this is when I realized that he is the ultimate father figure and
Starting point is 00:20:48 and I turned to terror and I'm like I think you're going to hook up but it was it was really cool and interesting that he kind of did step into that role and it just makes us even more emotionally connected to him especially knowing now that he can think and that he you know he can he's not capable of crying but he is capable of learning and what is the different if you're capable of learning how far off from being human are you really I know there's some like truly R-rated things in here, and I saw this a lot when I was a little kid, obviously. But I weirdly feel like
Starting point is 00:21:18 there's a bit of an all-ages aspect to this film because... What are the really R-rated things? Well, like the eyeball stab. That guy has a twin actor, too. That's how they shot that. When he comes up from the ground, he kills the security guard. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's very R-rated.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I mean, the abuse stuff is... I mean, some PG-13 movies can get away with it. It was the first one. The ripping off of the... They saw boobies. Oh, we didn't have this one. Yeah, the ripping off of the arm is very R-rated. Just what I really appreciate overall is that this is the perfect blend. Like, I think when you first watch The Matrix, which is very similar thematically in terms of AI and action extravaganza, sci-fi bend, is that this one, I feel, is truly attainable the first time you watch it. I don't think you'll be confused, whereas The Matrix often confuses a lot of people the first time they watch it.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I got to say I was a little confused on this, Greg, at the very beginning. and John was in here and I could tell that John was going to was like oh no because what was the confusion part we finished the first one yeah and Arnie's dead ripped apart we start this one and he comes down in his naked yeah and I was like what year is this and how did we get him back looking exactly like him did they fix him or do all Terminators look like this did you eventually land on the answer I think the T800 the T800 models all look like Arnold that's the idea and and also what I think the answer is you correct me if I'm wrong is that he says that John sent him back there. Yeah. So that's why he looks like that and that's why he got there. That's why who looks
Starting point is 00:22:54 like that. Arnie. That's why John Connor sent. Sent him back. Right. As John Connor resistance leader learned they were sending someone back in time. So he sent him back there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why it was him and not somebody else that came back. That's why it's Arney. Yeah. That's why I sent back a T-800. Right. Yeah. Yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah, you're not confused that. But at first, and then when we see Arnie in that first hallway scene go after, what's the name of the other actor who's really good? Robert Patrick.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Robert Patrick. This is first big movie. When we see Arnie and Robert Patrick go after each other, but then we see Arnie actually protect John Connor, I was like, oh, okay, so that's what's happening here, and that's when the pieces started to go into that. Until then, I was like, wait a second, why, explain yourself? As a sequel, that's where I think, if you're, you haven't seen Terminator 1, that really loses the effect when you're like, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:23:47 there's two bad Terminators going after John Carter. Yeah, exactly. What are them's a hero? Because you would be like, why is she freaking out about seeing like the term, like, well, it hits you more when you see the first one and you see her freak out? No, not that scene, Tara, the first hallway scene, she's not in it at all when he's running away. When Arnold and the T-1,000 fight each other in the hallway, when they're like bashing each other
Starting point is 00:24:10 up against the wall and the gallery. I got you. I got you. Got it. Got it. And it just hits harder because remember we see
Starting point is 00:24:16 he's coming after. Yeah. The Terminator Arnie's coming after what we think he's going to come after and try to kill John. Right. And we realize he's actually coming after the other guy.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah. Because the first act of this movie is like, hey, remember Terminator 1? That's what they're doing. They're like going, we're going to do the same beats of Terminator 1 and now we're going to go, never mind.
Starting point is 00:24:36 It's not Terminator 1. So I did put all the pieces together and I think that they laid it out perfectly but at the very beginning because I only just watched Matrix recently which I don't know if you know but I just watched that for the first time and it was the exact same thing as this was
Starting point is 00:24:50 where it took me a second to and then I was like oh I'm in yeah but they were both attainable I love Linda Hamilton's performance oh so good like whenever people talk about you know there's always that argument that people constantly make when it comes to what a strong female character is to someone
Starting point is 00:25:05 and every guy in the world just constantly leans on like Gornie Weaver from Alien and Lennie Hamilton for some here too. There's like the two performances. They always go back to that. And I feel like Linda Hamilton is just excellent in this film.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Because I love how three-dimensional of a character she is. Like she's a truly traumatized being who is using all the courage and strength and she has that like mama bear protector inside of her as well. I think it's such a phenomenal performance. She also got ripped for this clearly.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I think her and James Cameron were dating when this came out. But I think they were married when this came out. James Cameron's been through a lot wives. And this was one of, she was one of them. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Cool. Like they met on the first one? Some juicy gossip. I believe they met on the first
Starting point is 00:25:47 one. They were married by this one. I don't know if they met on the first one. They for sure were not married on the first one. Yeah, I might be wrong about that, actually, the personal life stuff I'm not as familiar with. Also, like, I just think the CG, for a 90s movie, I think the CGI is what still holds up today. When he comes up from the ground. I have seen shittier CGI in movies made this year or last year that don't look as good as this. But here are two monkeys. I love
Starting point is 00:26:13 the movie, but what the hell? What year was this film? I think it was 94 when it was filmed or 92 or something. So it was almost a decade after the first one? Close to, yeah, because like Arnold and James Cameron both had like phenomenal careers after Terminator. Does this like a big deal? Does John do anything?
Starting point is 00:26:30 What do you mean? The actor who plays John? Edward Furlong? Yes. He was in, he's had an extremely troubling life. Oh. He's unbelievable in this, so I'm bummed to hear that. He's so good. He was in the unit.
Starting point is 00:26:42 We're talking about the bad Terminator guy. No, no. We're talking about the boy, John. John Connor. American History X was, I think, his next huge movie with Edward Norton. Okay. Outside of that, I just know he was kind of, he was one of those famous cases of like, ooh, really bad Hollywood life.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He was on the, he got too famous, too quick, and then messed it up. He messed. Is he alive still? He's alive still? He was just on the Michael Rosenbaum podcast, actually. Oh, I want to listen to that then. I think Michael does such a great job that people seem to really trust him. The music is also so good in this movie.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I think it captures, like, The Menace very well. And I think the action scenes, that whole... Bad to the bone when it started playing out. I'm like, oh, you guys know what's up. So fun. But the chase, I think the chase scene through L.A. When he's like the T-1000 gets the big truck and Arnold's on the bike. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It's the hunt to get to John Connor first, I think, is so well done to this day. the escape from the mental hospital it sounds like it's such a derogatory term but the escape from the hospital when the T-1000 chasing after them and Sarah's like shooting from the car I still think it's like the best and Arnold's like shooting at the cops
Starting point is 00:27:48 but doesn't kill any of them I think it's so funny where it goes terminated zero yeah that's so cool but I also thought that the most awesome thing that I've seen is during those chases they were using a practical semi that broke through over the top of
Starting point is 00:28:04 that fence and flew into the LA River and then also another Tom Cruise-like very practical stunt on the motorcycle. That is a real stunt guy jumping and then landing in the river. As well as the helicopter getting that low. What an incredible stunt. Oh, at the very end, that is very, very dangerous. And you can tell that it's practical, especially when that helicopter goes under a bridge. Because if you think about the choppers that go out, you make one wrong move going under that bridge, you are effed, meaning that puppy's going to blow up. Yeah. Which is, so that's like an incredible, like overall that someone was like, yeah, I can do it.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And like, that's insane, right? Because you probably only go, well, if we get it in one shot, we get it in one shot and we're done, which is awesome because it's just a lot of these things are so dangerous and they did a really phenomenal job on that. Any final thoughts from you guys on Terminator 2? Greg. I think my favorite action shot is actually when Arnold gets, and that freeway, the dark, the one at night, when Arnold gets on top of the truck that the bad terminator's driving
Starting point is 00:29:15 and he starts using the machine gun on him while he's on, you know what Sean talking about? I know exactly the term out. Like where he just knelt down in front and the window. He's just shooting him while the 2000s drive. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's insane shot. I love that. Like, there's something about that hero moment that I think is so badass.
Starting point is 00:29:31 So cool. I now know why you. cry is one of my favorite lines in all of film history. I know. And like I was going to bring that up because it's like that that is a huge part of like when they take out the chip he never would have said that line. I know
Starting point is 00:29:44 now and understand why you cry which makes that so important. Yeah, the context of the theatrical completely flips it where it means that the Terminator can just learn which kind of messes with some rules. I prefer the special. I prefer the actual original intention. Yeah, yeah. And the
Starting point is 00:30:00 last fun fact is without this movie we wouldn't have gone in the Jurassic Park visuals because Steven Spielberg saw what they were doing with the T-1,000. And he's like, we need to do this with the dinosaurs. And that's how we got the idea to implement the scene. I think it was the shot of the T-1000 when he's first liquid and he's coming out of the fire after the freeway. I think that was the shot he was introduced with. And then he was working on Jurassic Park developing it. And then when we saw that, that's when he got the idea to implement the kind of CGI they were using, whatever it was called to with the practical effects of the dinosaurs.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Were James Cameron Steven Spielberg friend? Yeah, they're friends. They're buddies then. Yeah. Oh, because there's a dinosaur in the background of that office. Yeah, yeah, a bronchosaurus. And I was thinking like, why is that so steady in so many shots that Brontosaurus back
Starting point is 00:30:48 there? Because they're buddies. Yeah, I love this. You think that? Yeah, I do. I do think that. I think that it may be. And if they're buddies and he was actually working on Jurassic at the same time, oh, no, maybe.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Damn. All right. And I think, last thing, I'm sorry, the inverse of taking like the, but Arnold was used as like a terrifying buff guy and then to do the inverse of a villain who's just like this skinny dude, but make him really scary. Scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a very hard.
Starting point is 00:31:15 The sequels are known to not be good. Who are you calling skinny? The T1,000. The Bad Terminator. He was still ripped. He was ripped, but he was like compared to like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah, but he was still chiseled. Arnold was like the buff weightlifter and then.
Starting point is 00:31:31 He was like acrobat. He was a gropeggy. He was a skinny. He's a little skinny. He's a skinny guy. Oh my God. He's Mr. Runner. He's a Mr.
Starting point is 00:31:39 running. I know. I said I was like, put it together. He's so good at running. Like, everyone talks about Tom Cruise running. Look that guy. He had to learn to run without breathing, which was the hardest thing he had to do. Why?
Starting point is 00:31:50 To make it look good? Because a Terminator wouldn't breathe. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. I can't be one. Oh. Oh. I turn off the TV.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Sorry. Tara, any final things? No, man. Love this movie. Love you guys. Good old times. Let me interrupt. Yeah, absolutely. I knew how about you you want to talk about it. Yeah, all these years I've never just had a discussion about it. Well, there you go. Thank you guys for joining us for this, and we'll see you next time. Later, Rejects. Guido Galindo is undoubtedly the John Connor of our Patreon page. We have to protect Guito.
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Starting point is 00:34:08 That's not good for YouTube Advertis That's right We wound No we just We just give them a A light tap Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:15 It's grayes We just shoot at their feet And make them dance Whimsically like it's hard He seriously I want to do a sequel To those cops We're just
Starting point is 00:34:25 Physical therapy of like What the What happened? We kept shooting him in the face. And he just wouldn't drop. And he was stronger than like 10 men combined. 30 of us are paralyzed for life. I've never seen these kinds of injuries.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He had so many guns. It was like a machine. But that's crazy. It could never happen. You know the truth. That's my favorite movie with the biggest plot lovers. A bunch of, that's not a plato. It's a big.
Starting point is 00:34:58 wonder of like, how do they solve this? What happened here? What were the questions? Yeah. I think that would be great. That's the kind of sequelizing we need to do now. Instead of trying to recreate the exact same genre and story that the previous movies had, just do like what else is happening in this world.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. Let's explore some consequences from canon events that we're all familiar with, like these cops, triumphing of the human spirit. Yeah, and what happened to him? The security guard. Oh, what happened to him? Degas? Coffee? No, he died. But they're two security
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Starting point is 00:35:38 And then give us the thumbs up When it's done Yep That chip always looked like A chocolate bar to me They should make that Terminator chocolate bar chip Dude they should
Starting point is 00:35:48 Oh my god Chop a chip bar Chocolate chips Oh my God If you could make CPU Stand for a chocolate Something unit
Starting point is 00:35:57 Chocolate, pulmonary, paul, paul, pa, pants, chocolate pie. We'll get there. Chocolate pickles, chocolate pickles. Chocolate pickle unit. Chocolate pickle unit. That's, or the chocolate pickle unit. Give me, I want five chocolate pickles. We're saying stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Stressing situations about a pickle being dipped in chocolate. That's right. Hey, it's sweet and savory. What more could you want? Here's the last shout out we're shooting today. So great, you get the best. You get the juice.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Happy birthday to your mom. We'll see you later. Bye, Eric Christmas. Happy day year. Don't forget to come back for some four terrible sequels. We'll see you. Let's do it.

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