The Reel Rejects - THE ABYSS (1989) MOVIE REACTION!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

Episode Date: June 16, 2024

MOST UNDERRATED JAMES CAMERON FILM?! The Abyss Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects The Abyss Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review for the Science... Fiction movie from James Cameron - the director behind Terminator 2 Judgment Day, The Terminator, Avatar, Avatar The Way Of Water, & Titanic. It's about this underwater crew who are on a mission to recover a lost nuclear submarine. But, you know, it's not just a simple search and rescue mission because they encounter some extraterrestrial aquatic beings. So, the crew consists of Bud Brigman (played by Ed Harris), his estranged wife Lindsey (played by Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio), and a bunch of other characters. They're all working together to find this lost submarine, but things get complicated when they discover these alien creatures living in the deep sea. There's a lot of tension between Bud and Lindsey, and they have to work through their issues while dealing with the aliens. The aliens are pretty cool, by the way. They can manipulate water and even create these water tentacles that can mimic human faces. The climax of the movie involves a big decision for Bud. He has to choose between saving himself or sacrificing himself to prevent a nuclear war. Of course, he chooses the heroic option and dives into the abyss to stop a nuclear warhead from detonating. In the end, Bud survives and the aliens help him return to the surface. The movie ends with a message of hope and the idea that we can all work together to overcome our differences. The movie cast consists of Ed Harris as Virgil 'Bud' Brigman, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Lindsey Brigman Michael Biehn as Lieutenant Hiram Coffey, Leo Burmester as Catton 'Catfish' De Vries, Todd Graff as Alan 'Hippy' Carnes, John Bedford Lloyd as Jammer Willis, Kimberly Scott as Lisa 'One Night' Standing, J.C. Quinn as Arliss 'Sonny' Dawson.  Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:35 which I don't think you've ever seen as well. It's called Piranha II The Spawning. And I don't think James Cameron wants us to mention that. You know, to such a level that I think head cannon, I erased it from his IMDB. Piranha II, the Spawning I have not seen. But that's even worse than like Alien 3 for Fenture, I think. Literally Piranha 2, The Spawning.
Starting point is 00:01:54 But hey, if you guys want us to watch Piranha 2, The Spawning. Leave it in the comments. If this does well enough, that it'll inspire a piranhas to the spawning, leave a comment below and we'll get after it. Without further ado, let us go to the abyss. Oh, my God. Cameron, you're the man, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:19 My God, what a movie. Wow. And written by him too, of course. see. Oh, Gayleyn Hurd, of course, would produce it because they were married at a time. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And she produced Angley's Hulk. I love that it was a love story between two and then, like, a husband or wife produced it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Like, directed, written by, and then produced by the wife is, like, really beautiful. Yes. Like, we're just telling our own tale here. Yeah. What would happen if we discovered alien life underwater? And then James Cameron to go on to do that. Like, he would just go on to just be underwomen. water.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah. How do you make this and then just spend that much time underwater? I'm so impressed. Yeah. Holy. I'm exhausted from that movie. That was so incredible. That was so tense.
Starting point is 00:03:08 If you're listening to this on Spotify and iTunes, we just watched the masterpiece. That was the abyss. I'm struggling to formulate words. I'm remembering how to breathe because I stopped a few times. Really did. There were moments where he would take a deep. breath and I would realize I had stopped breathing because of quality of film, not because I was underwater.
Starting point is 00:03:29 That was Alan Sylvester. I kept on saying in my head, is this Alan Sylvester? I kept on getting back to the future vibes and Predator. And that jacket. I love the best. Yeah, of course, of course. That may be, they're obviously very different genres, but I think that is up there with Robocop of my favorite thing I've watched on this, on this channel.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Like, as an experience. Yeah. I really, like, there's part of. me that's really glad to have shared it so I can watch back moments that rocked me. Part of me wishes I'd seen that as a kid. But I also don't know how much of like, I don't know if I would have grasped the depths
Starting point is 00:04:06 of it, pun intended. But I do think had I seen it in theaters when I was like unless they re-released it at year 10, which I doubt they did. And even then I would have been like nine. I'm glad I didn't see it too young to not have this feeling.
Starting point is 00:04:25 but I really wish I'd seen it in theaters the first time, but that's not really an option because of all these variables. I almost watched it a month ago and they re-released it. So I'm really excited to see it next time they re-release it because that was pretty singular atmosphere and the fact that we're watching it surrounded by lights, it's daylight. Like, I cannot imagine how immersive that is
Starting point is 00:04:45 when you're in the space. And the theater always feels so dark and like atmospheric anyway. So you put the underwater elements of that. I'm so jealous of anyone that was the right age is the point I'm getting to. What an experience. What did you think, Ben? I loved it.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah, I love the point you just made, too. This much of, it must have been such a great experience to see it in theaters. I know even in the re-releases, but it must have rocked everyone's world back in 1989. I mean, James Cam, before I continue, by the way, if you want to look as cool as coin, I and support the theme, Rejectnationshop. com. Don't forget to get some merch and support us. But, yeah, just, I mean, Cameron just, he always just knows how to nail atmosphere. just scope
Starting point is 00:05:26 and again like you said we're watching this with lights here in the studio and it was such an experience it was amazing I cannot not imagine not only in 1989
Starting point is 00:05:36 but also with re-releases as well like I so want to see this whenever it's re-release in theaters and I think you just pointed I was re-released a month a month ago or so Greg and I have been talking about doing this for a long time
Starting point is 00:05:49 so I was like I have to resist the urge to see this because this is one of the only or the only Cameron film We're not counting piranha too. We're not counting piranha to. Let the record show. Yeah, but we will react to that if you guys want to do.
Starting point is 00:05:59 If you want. But, yeah, this was quite an experience. I really, and I know it's never going to happen, but I loved when Cameron was doing original shit like this. Like, this just shows. I hate to disparage avatar, but I really want this. Yeah, and again, I'm with you. I don't want seven avatars.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I want more this. Yeah, and I'm so down with him doing one or two. But he's happy. But he's happy. I want him to be happy. Yeah, and I know he only does. a movie once every 10 or 15 years or so, but I, this is Pete Cameron right here. This is what I love to see.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I mean, my favorite films of his are, I mean, Terminator aliens. I know we're like, this is like, recency bias. Yeah. It's in my, it's in mine. Dude, I'm, I love this. Every second, I was like, holy shit. And again, the visuals he was able to obtain with, I don't know the budget first hand, but in 1989, I cannot imagine how difficult that must have been to get the visuals
Starting point is 00:06:52 that he was able to obtain. And again, that was pre-T-1000, pre-Jurassic Park. I mean, the visuals were so incredible. And also, too, how able he was, make me feel so submersive and just the tense underwater as well. Like, just so many different array of emotions. And then also, too, I love how this movie is just at the end of the day, a couple, like, getting back together. Yeah. But he knows how to nail that as well.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Like the family dynamic, like broken family type of system. He knows how to nail that down relationships. I mean, you got the first terminary. You got Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese a love relationship across time type of thing. And then you got Titanic, obviously, Jack and Rose. You got True Lies, a torn family through a mission like that. Great things. Yes, he does get female badasses better than anyone, which you pointed out.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He's a master at that, which we'll go into in a second. But he knows how to nail the family dynamic. And I think that's the most relatable thing that he gets besides all the like, oh my God, this just feels like a James Cameron film, which I love, too. But, like, it's the relatable things that he always nails for me. And I think he nailed that again in this
Starting point is 00:08:02 because you could tell just, again, I loved how active, I don't know the actress's name, Lindsay, whatever her character. She was, I loved that, like, how bitchy and, like, just active she was at the very beginning. And also, too, like, you could tell how very torn they were in their relationship.
Starting point is 00:08:18 But you still felt that sense of care for each other, but I like that it took, um this type of of traumatic experience for them to get back together but again it just it was done in such an organic way and i think you pointed out earlier too i just love how right away we got right into it and took such a um you know like we're not wasting any time like in a all right we're going to go into a nice mundane type of situation that was never a scene of them with like a lesser film would have had absolutely one or three of them yes having a day in their regular life above the surface
Starting point is 00:08:50 and it would have been like we gotta get to know them better we gotta we don't trust the audience let's make sure they know and this is like we're gonna start out a sub and then we're gonna go down underwater we're not gonna come back up
Starting point is 00:09:02 after you see the hurricane for an hour and a half 100% we just started that off like that I love that this was a tight two hours and 20 minutes this movie is two hours and 20 minutes and it felt so tight
Starting point is 00:09:13 like I would have gotten rid of nothing and I would have added nothing like I was just saying this is such an efficient use of time and honestly what I'm thinking about my first experience with something like Avatar that is cutting edge like I wasn't old enough
Starting point is 00:09:28 to experience Terminator when it was new I wasn't even old enough to experience Terminator 2 when it was new I was old enough to experience the majesty of seeing Avatar and IMAX in 3D and being blown away but I got the same feeling in this and this is 30 something
Starting point is 00:09:44 34 years old 35 this year that's why they just re-released it 35 years old and I got that same like... Yeah. Because it was so good. The quality made the technology that they were symbiotic.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah. And again, not to dissuade anything from AVT. I still really enjoy Averture. The visuals are holy shit. Yeah, yeah. This isn't at cost of Avatar. I just keep referencing it
Starting point is 00:10:06 because that's his current. But like in terms of originality, I mean, it's Fern Goley meets Pocon and makes dances with wolves. Which, again, is fine. That's totally, if that's James Cameron's prerogative.
Starting point is 00:10:15 But like, I just love how original this is. And same with Terminator and same with alien. Oh, well, I guess aliens is a sequel, but still, but still, like, yeah, but I just, like, this is like P. Cameron in his prime. And there's so many shot. He makes every shot count. I mean, you got just one shot of Michael Bean. And didn't even talk about Michael Bean yet, but there's one shot of Michael Bean and another military guy just walking into frame. And you're like, yeah. This is epic looking. And they're just walking into frame with it, like, either a gun or, yeah, with the lighting. This is maybe the best lighting I can think of in a movie.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. And like, I mean movie, like, because it's lit well underwater. It adds tone throughout. It adds depth throughout. It allows contrast for certain moments. They light well for emotion. They light well for actual, like, silhouette use. They light well, excuse me, for basically having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:11:06 They light well for action. Like, the lighting department on this film, I don't usually think of lighting. Right. And it wasn't distracting lighting where I'm like, ooh, but I've been looking at movies lately and I've been thinking about like color palettes and I think a big problem with movies in the last 10 years isn't just the volume isn't just CGI I think it's also when like
Starting point is 00:11:27 you and I are sitting here how they'd light it today and that not necessarily being too bright or too dark that's the simple answer but the non-emotional lighting it doesn't have it doesn't convey anything the beauty of filmmaking is you're painting a frame you're not shooting a shot you're painting a frame and this is using depth as you kept pointing out This is using actors that are are conveying a 4D experience because you're not just going, you know, the 3D that we know and the Z axis, but it's also like what you are on the other side of the lens experiencing, like you and your reality and the lighting here got that.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Absolutely. No, you nailed it. And I also thought, too, the editing was so well done in this film too, so seamless. There were a couple times we were like, whoa, that edit. Yeah, no, I was really well done. And also, too, in terms of like the editing, I love when he would change, like Cameron would just change. right into a POV shots. So like you could feel
Starting point is 00:12:19 you were vicariously living through these characters like, you know, down in the depths of like what these people were going through. So, I mean, just every shot was just so meticulously done. That's why like,
Starting point is 00:12:30 yeah, Cameron might be possibly a dick to work for, but he... Worth it. Yeah, he makes everything count. Like, that's why he's a damn genius. You know what I mean? So... And the sound design when they went P.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So it sounded more sonorous. It sounded more like it was in your head. I do want to give some love to the, actress who I don't know her work. I will now be watching anything. I think she was in The Punisher for a couple episodes. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah, for a couple episodes. Anything she does, I'm in now. That was so impressive. I think the best thing about it was the dialogue from other characters was she is such a bitch and you can see how the choices she was making would be perceived that way but weren't actually bitchy. She just knew what needed to be done and how if you deal with that long enough, you're going to hate her.
Starting point is 00:13:14 but I like that they didn't write her bitchy. They wrote her as in control because someone had to be. And when you've got a bunch of people that act like kids or act like, you know, they can't handle a situation that are still good at their job. Like it's just someone has to be in control. And I love that that didn't mean the other people were dumb. I, again, a lesser movie, if she's going to be in controlling, you have to make the other people out of control. That's not how masters work. Like if you're hired because you're the best at something, you can't be the cast of Armageddon.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Armageddon, I already don't like Armageddon because it invalidates the criteria in collection. But now that I've seen what Armageddon can be, now that I see like the good version, it doesn't work to have someone in control at the cost of other people being imbeciles if they're supposed to be the best of their thing. So what you do is have lines of dialogue that say, oh, and you feel the weight of that person as opposed to them being someone that's unlikable. She was, in my opinion, she wasn't unlikable, but you got to like her even more and you got to see what a badass she was. And if she was unlikable, then the redemption doesn't work. And if you don't have her be so controlling, you don't understand the schism and the breakup, then it also doesn't work. So you've got to walk this fine line.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And their relationship was so, so beautifully tense. And then so beautifully, like, it unfurled like a flower. Like, by the time it bloomed, you're so invested because it was once a bud. Yeah. God damn, this movie's good. And I loved how intelligent and courageous she was, like, that situation where he was about to take off the suit. And she's like, no, no, no, we have a better chance. You have a better chance if you tow me and then, you know, afterwards, after the fact like, like she was willing to sacrifice yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I feel like I watched someone drown today. Yeah, yeah, no, it was, it was tense. And also, too, that was an insane, dark subversion of expectations with Michael Bean's character where he's like, I'm going to do something I've wanted to do since I first med show. I was like, what? Where are we going here? And then he taped up. I was like, okay, that makes sense because like we said with that bitchy type of attitude at first where she's in. control and like, okay, Cameron, you got me there, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Well, that's that, like, we've talked about, like, I do not enjoy that ever uses a plot device. And I love that they subverted it not only that way, but also, like, she stayed in control when he didn't want her to be. Like, even that moment, like, she was still in control at all times, and it didn't cost Ed Harris's character at any point. And I love that they were just what leaders are. Like, they eventually found a way to work together through everything.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And I also really appreciate that. we should talk about Michael Bean because what Michael Bean brought to this was it was a ticking clock element that like from the beginning as soon as we meet him we know it's gonna go awry and you even mentioned at one point like I wonder if he would have
Starting point is 00:15:52 he was never a bad guy that I think was just like a poorly written villain like some characters in Avatar he was actually a character who was able to be a guy just following orders that I didn't think would have done that
Starting point is 00:16:07 if not for that added element and that was way more captivating. I completely agree with you. Yeah, because if they wouldn't have had the whole tremor and they said it up to, just a bit mustache for him. He had a big mustache. Yeah, he did. He did. exactly. I hope that doesn't become of me now with this mustache. But no, no, I think they set it up the whole plot device of him with that. And then, yeah, like, and they talked about two, the psychosis of being underwater with that whole situation. Yeah, I think that was, like you said, was definitely more captivating, more interesting, as opposed to if he just would have been like,
Starting point is 00:16:36 all right, I'm just going to be a villain, to be a villain. Cameron, again, he, he writes his villains very well and very tight and like he knows a way to get you not only invested but also where you're understanding and relating not in a sense of like where you're gonna root for the bad guy but you're having an understanding of why
Starting point is 00:16:55 this guy's doing this but not in a this is so generic and so been so done like he writes badass villains and the performances like his eyes the eyeballs and those were telling a story like there were so many times he wasn't saying shit but you could tell what he was thinking and feeling like this dude could go off at any second. And he's literally became the Terminator.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I mean, at times. No pun intended in terms of like his scammer directing. But he did. And I, but I love seeing that because, again, the other two films he had done, he was extremely heroic and stoic. And I loved the way he played those characters with Kyle Reese and, what was it, Hicks. Yeah, Hicks. I love those characters.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It's awesome heroic characters that you really root for. And in this, like, wow, totally step back from those two characters. because, again, you're relating it to Cameron, but again, I love that range in Michael Bean. Like, he's scared the shit out of me in this. It's like you said, being that ticking time bomb. That literally ticked. Yeah. I love that the ticks were aggressive and they weren't big.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It just felt like you felt the tension in the room. Like, you were in the room with this guy. Yeah, no, for sure. Because the scariest guy in the bus is the one that's doing small little movements. Like, if you're in public and someone's got this little weird edge, it's not as, I mean, someone flailing the arms is scary, but a guy like that, so much scary. It's crazy, too, such a small situation is. the decompressing could cause everything to unfold like the rest of the way
Starting point is 00:18:13 and that's the whole thing that was the biggest problem in the whole film in terms of what caused the events of the plot to unfold I thought that was interesting but that's why Cameron's so damn good with his writing I also too the little things that Cameron does that I appreciate it again this is where he gets on everyone like no
Starting point is 00:18:29 that's going to be like this this is going to be like that just the blue hand it stayed it stayed there and I can imagine Ned Harris probably going do you think the audience is going to give a shit like my hand I'm in the water for Christ's like you're going to paint that fucking hand blue every day. I would have just dyed my hand on that hair. I would have actually done the.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But I like me, I appreciate little. Again, it doesn't add to the story of any kind. It doesn't add to the character. But when you see it, you go, oh, they care. Yeah, they care. Like I love little things like that. And even like the wife, she had that that mark right there the whole time. I appreciate continuity like that.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think, like, it just, again, it adds a sense of care, you know, that they're paying attention to the details. The physicality in this film also, I want to give some love to the alien creatures things. I really enjoyed that they never spoke. I'm glad there wasn't some, like, I love a rival because it uses language in a fun way. And I think this did a really good job. Like the bow, nod, salute, whatever you want to call it. And every time the aliens moved, it just felt like, oh, that's, that makes sense for communication. And that was really cool without anything to translate.
Starting point is 00:19:37 We just felt to communication because that's so much more realistic than, you know, something being not carbon-based and having any way to talk to us. And, like, us, we as an audience need to have the same experience as the characters in the movie. And we need to go, oh, I would interpret it this way the same way they would. And so it's really hard to do that. But I felt so much here. And I really love how beautiful it felt. I felt a sense of awe. And I'm, again, sitting in a light room with lights on.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Like, that's so rare. I agree. That's why I really want to see this movie in theater. Yeah. Let's get some trivia, Max. That was, that rocked me. I'm curious if we're going to see that Ed Harris one. I'm so tired.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Right? And that's a quality way. Yeah, no, for sure. Imagine how the actors with all that water dumping on them on. I don't know if I've had that traumatic of a theater, not theater, but not a theater. That traumatic of a movie experience with her drowning. That really affected me. That was so hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Holy shit. I can't wait to read to you the second one. All right. Bring it. A real oxygenated fluorocarbone fluid was used in the rat fluid breathing scene. Dr. Johannes Clistra and Dr. Peter Bennett of Duke University pioneered this technique and consulted on the film, giving detailed instructions on how to prepare the fluid. The only reason for cutting to the actor's faces was to avoid showing the rats defecating from momentary panic as they began breathing the fluid. And we were talking about how the hell did they film that?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Is that a real? Like, what are they doing? Like that liquid exists. Yes, it does. What the fuck? Yeah. I mean, I'm sure humans can't do it. Like,
Starting point is 00:21:13 I'd Harris do it. But even, even did it go from like an eight to an 11 of unreality? I didn't think it was at a one. Like, I didn't think that I thought it was all sci-fi, not like there's a plausible leap. Yeah, but even like,
Starting point is 00:21:24 I feel like survival instincts kicked in. Like, even though we know our brain is still telling us like, oh my God. Dram and drama, yeah, exactly. So, all right, you're ready for this? I think this is going to be the most interesting one. 998 people out of 1,007 found this interesting. Ed Harris reportedly punched James Cameron in the face
Starting point is 00:21:41 after he kept filming while he was nearly drowning. I'd believe that. I love that for both of them because James Cameron probably deserved it and Ed Harris probably needed it. Wow. Oh, my goodness. But I'd always heard about that he almost drowned making this movie.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I don't know which scene it was. I imagine it was that scene where he was vaccinated. Yeah, yeah. But let us know for sure which scene it was. James, if you're watching. Yeah, I was talking to James, definitely. I'm sure James is watching this. That's what it felt like I'm like, is Ed or James watched.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yes, I'm sure James is what James, you're a genius. Thank you. Stop after after Avatar 3. They've already greenlit 5. Yeah, sorry. I think 6. I don't know. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Very few scenes involve stunt people. When Bud drags Lindsay back to the rig, that's really Mary Elizabeth must. I'm probably going to butcher her name. After trivia, we got to look her up. Mastra Antonio holding her breath. when the rig is being flooded and characters are running from water, drowning behind closed doors and dodging, exploding parts of the rig,
Starting point is 00:22:41 those are all the actors, not stunt people. You mentioned at one point, like, how did they film this? It was the actors. Wow. That's,
Starting point is 00:22:49 this movie's insane. Yeah. And Cameron's like, no stunt people. That's why him and Tom Cruise won't. Yeah, dude, imagine, because Tom Cruise almost worked for Tarantino until he bailed in the critic.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Oh, really? He was going to be the critic. And then he bailed in it, and I'm like, man, what that would have been. That'd be interesting. But Tarantino and Cruz and Cameron though
Starting point is 00:23:06 That'd be a fun All real stunts, all real intense Yes, yes I'll do two more and then I'll get to one or two spoilers During the rigorous and problematic shoot The cast and crew began calling this film By various derogatory names such as Son of Abyss, the Abuse
Starting point is 00:23:24 and Life's Abyss and then you dive Director James Cameron said that he got so tired from working 6 days a week, 10 hours a day sometimes more, that he would sometimes fall asleep during dinner in bed, waking up in the morning with a half-eaten plate on his chest, and clenching a fork in his hand. Mary Elizabeth Mastra Antonio reportedly suffered a physical and emotional breakdown because she was pushed so hard on the set,
Starting point is 00:23:51 and Ed Harris had to pull over his car at one time while driving home because he burst into spontaneous crying. Shit. I can't imagine the quality of work being done. this good under that much pressure because usually like there's a breaking point and then quality dips or safety dips and the fact that no one died and quality
Starting point is 00:24:11 didn't dip and they were at this much pressure six days a week I know people that are like people that do paramedic work and firefighters and people like you guys doing like 12 14 hour days and stuff it's so scary because of like the pressure you're under so please take with a grain of salt like I can't imagine
Starting point is 00:24:29 doing six days a week 10 hours onset because getting to set all the setup like how you keep it safe because like that's just astronomical yeah uh ed harris has publicly refused to speak about his experiences working on the film saying and i quote i'm not talking about the abyss and i never will the only end quote the only register with harris speaking about his experiences doing uh doing the film is in the documentary under pressure making the abyss similarly mary elizabeth i'm not even going to pronounce her last name said and i quote the Abyss was a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Fun to make was not one of them. I'm so thankful they powered on because this is such a film. And I'm sorry that is what it costs. But, man, thank you. Yeah. Wow. Curious why they never worked with James Cameron never again. Now we know.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. That's why he cast Stephen Lang almost Ed Harris in an avatar. This might, I mean, well, I guess if you're going to count the extended version, this was not the last Michael Bean film that he worked on. with James Cameron, because he'd literally done three films in a row with James Cameron. He did Terminator Aliens and this, the Abyss, and then he did the extended cut of Terminator 2,
Starting point is 00:25:42 which had a couple scenes of Kyle Reese and Sarah Conner's dreams. But other than that, I don't think Michael Bean's worked with Jim. They're still great friends. Yeah. Okay, I'll do two more. During underwater filming, Ed Harris almost drowned a few times. One time was while filming the scene where he had to swim without a suit at the bottom of the submerged set.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That one you thought. And the safety diver took very long to hand him a breathing regulator. However, the closest call came during the descent into the abyss. Harris was wearing a helmet filled with liquid and had to hold his breath while he was towed along a set.
Starting point is 00:26:18 When he ran out of air, he gave the signal for oxygen, but his safety diver got hung up on a cable and could not get to him. Oh my God. Another crew member gave Harris a regulator. but it was upside down and caused him to suck in water. Underwater cinematographer Al Giddings saw what happened,
Starting point is 00:26:39 ripped the upside down regulator, and gave him his own in the correct orientation. Later that evening, Ed broke down and cried. I would have done more than cried. Oh, my God, he almost died. Yeah. Dude, this movie. I can understand we're not wanting to talk about that
Starting point is 00:26:57 and also wanting to punch James Cameron in the face for a situation like that. happening like, ugh. Boy. All right. I'll read one more. Even hearing about this movie. Yeah. Still a great movie, but hearing these behind the scenes, bring a different light to it. It was Michael Bean, who after reading an early script, suggested to James Cameron to let his character coffee suffer from HPNS, high pressure nervous syndrome as an explanation for coffee's increasingly irritational behavior. He also grew a mustache to add to the menacing nature of his character. Literally.
Starting point is 00:27:31 everything you talked about. Trivia. Michael Bean, I got you. I understand where you're coming from. I mean, that's so funny how it would have been a lesser villain,
Starting point is 00:27:38 if not for those exact things that I request. No, I'm glad he brought that attention because we literally, we literally said without it would have been, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but that is a no disrespect to James Cameron der writing that is the villains and Avatar. If you don't have Michael Bean, you get Avatar. I completely agree. No disrespect to Avatar lovers. You don't get it,
Starting point is 00:27:56 you don't get the abyss, you get Avatar. It would have made him less interesting, less captain. It would have been more generic Wait, he's not under orders. I mean, I get it. You're in a submerged thing
Starting point is 00:28:05 and you always want to be in control, but I don't know, this is dumb. This movie had no one obtain him in it. Yeah. Which I appreciate. Well, thank you very much to the actors who survived this film so that we could survive
Starting point is 00:28:18 just watching this film. You guys, the sacrifices we clearly heard. Sorry to everyone that loves Avatar. I like Avatar. It's just at comparison. I think, and this is the first on the history of this channel, I've done a lot of reaction.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I think this is my first five star. I've only given, I think, 26 five stars in the history of me watching movies. Wow. I think I've rated 4,500 or so movies and I've given 27 films five stars. Holy crap. I think this is in that.
Starting point is 00:28:45 So I had this experience for me. And the fact that I'm giving it five stars, not in a theater, which is usually how it has to happen and like lit and watching it. Like this movie rocked me. So much love to you lovelies. Leave a comment below. Let us know what you think of the abyss.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And let us know if you want us to watch Piranha 2. We're going to get a bunch of those comments. Oh, man. If you want us to journey into the other side of Cameron, and then I'll make fun of Avatar. Please let us know. Hunt down Andrew on the socials. Hunt down me and the socials.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Hunt down someone you care about and give them a hug because you never know when they're going to drown. Thanks to James Cameron. We'll see you soon. Landon Miller, London. This month, we're just letting it out into the open. And whenever we shout out a patron, which celebrity they most remind us up. And easily, Landon Miller, whenever I see you and look through my journal of notes about you,
Starting point is 00:29:44 there's one celebrity that comes to mind. The Landonado DiCaprio comes to mind. Landon always dates under his age. That's right. 25. Time to give him the boot, all right? And even that's pushing it. It's crazy because...
Starting point is 00:30:02 Landon dates 18 to 18 and a half year old. And Landon's 55 years old. Landon is 55 years old. One of our oldest patrons that we have and constantly snagging up these supermodels. And some people want to like go around being like, oh, what a creep.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's for all the women to say that about you. Don't groom these people. All the guys behind the scenes are like, how does he do it, man? Live out my dream. Publish a pamphlet for us. to study from. I live vicariously.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I need to live for your adventures. You do it, man. Teach me how to riz. I'm so proud of you. What's a good pickup line? Why did I meet you earlier? Can I get a wait with this? What one word can I say to melt women's brains?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Landon. It's an impressive skill. It's Landon's the word. Ever's trying to cancel you. Just know. They just wish they were young enough to date. That's right. That's why they're just better about being old.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Typing away in their old folks home. Yeah. Who types anymore? Old people. Old people. And they're typewriter. Then they mail it in to be published as a tweet. What these women are doing.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah. Yeah. Just know, man, that the men, you are the men of the men. We see you. You're a man's man's man. Like DiCaprio, you're also an environmentalist. So can you really bitch about your sexism? Is it sexism?
Starting point is 00:31:22 You're not offsetting your carbon footprint. You're offsetting your moral footprint. I don't know what it is. Yeah, it's good. Either way, you're inspiring us all. You got a made. Yeah. Electric car.

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