The Reel Rejects - The Batman 2 ANNOUNCEMENT, Punisher In SPIDER-MAN 4, Denis Villeneuve Directing JAMES BOND!

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

We’re breaking down the official announcement of The Batman Part 2 and what’s coming next in Matt Reeves’ Gotham universe! Save & Invest In Your Future Today, visit: https://www.acorns.com/rejects Robert Pattinson (The Batman, Tenet, The Lighthouse) is officially returning, with characters expected to return including Zoë Kravitz (The Batman, Kimi) as Selina Kyle/Catwoman, Jeffrey Wright (Westworld, No Time To Die) as James Gordon, Andy Serkis (The Lord of the Rings, Black Panther) as Alfred Pennyworth, Barry Keoghan (The Banshees of Inisherin, Eternals) as The Joker, and Colin Farrell (The Penguin, The Banshees of Inisherin) as Oswald Cobblepot/Penguin. We also cover The Punisher announcement in Spider-Man Brand New Day with Tom Holland (Spider-Man: No Way Home, Uncharted), tying into the Brand New Day comic arc. Rumored characters include Jon Bernthal (The Punisher, The Walking Dead) reprising Frank Castle, Vincent D’Onofrio (Daredevil, Full Metal Jacket) as Kingpin, and a potential Daredevil crossover with Charlie Cox (Daredevil, Treason). We also dive into Denis Villeneuve (Dune, Blade Runner 2049, Arrival) officially directing the next James Bond movie and what it could mean for the franchise’s future. PLUS, we discuss James Cameron taking shots at Christopher Nolan’s Oppenheimer over historical accuracy and the box office battle. We also cover the huge news of a Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt crossover that could link Days of Thunder to F1: The Movie, directed by Joseph Kosinski (Top Gun: Maverick, Tron: Legacy). This is a jam-packed video full of Marvel, DC, Bond, and movie mega updates — drop your theories and reactions in the comments & subscribe for more superhero news, movie breakdowns, & comic book coverage! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's a work in progress. It's all John's beautiful doing. Looks amazing in here. I love it. Hard labor. So here's the reality of life today. All of it? We were supposed to be doing a live stream about an hour and a half ago from the time of us recording it.

And we were live, but it was not going according to plan. We have moved offices and it has been, you know, let's just call it. rowing pains. Sure. And then, yeah, we had a crazy, it was worse than when we were, the studios were at my home. It was really bad. So we're like, all right, we've readjusted and we're just going to do a recording. As usual, I am bummed about it. I am sad about it because I really wanted to do like people have been asking for us to do this live. And I really wanted it to be live. Yeah, I can't lie to you. I'm sad.

But we got some news to talk about. And I figured we should still deliver the goods. Sure. To the crowd. So we're going to go over some stories today. Batman Part 2. Finally freaking done, Mr. Reeves. James Cameron called out Christopher Nolan.

Called him a bitch. Do you got to see that? He says, yeah, you're a little wimp, Nolan. Shove them. Look it up. Quote me. Take this clip. Put it out there.

Variety. Send it to James. Run with it. Run with it. I'm going off memory. I'm not doing any notes here because I was like, this is the one time. I was like,

no need to make any notes. We're doing a live. There's a director attached to a big property. James Bond, baby. That's what it is. Dennis Rodman. And then we have a Punisher in Spider-Man brand new day.

Drop the day after we filmed last week. It's six days old, but here we are. And we did get some super chats in that failed live stream that I do want us to acknowledge at the end. We will a thousand percent read, answer them because. that would be messed up. Thanks for the money. Bye.

Our tech messed up. Sorry. So leave a like on this video. We will figure it out. We're going to have an internet guy come in here so we can do a proper live stream. Hell, maybe that'll be next week and we could save ourselves time there. Coy, what do you want to talk about first? All right. So we got Batman being done. We got James Bond being confirmed. We got Cameron and we got Punisher. You know, I want to go Batman because I honestly feel like this is.

my favorite big story non-story of 2025 because every time because every time it comes up everybody's like it's still not done so it being done feels like a big deal but it also like no one no one knows what it's like to write something as a sequel to such an important thing within you know a studio changeover i can't imagine the pressure of you made a film that is beloved and unique and then everything changed at the studio and even though everyone keeps asking James Gunn keeps being like no no it's still good they keep asking so there isn't pressure in the traditional way there's pressure in like the world and I think it's really interesting because it's kind of different and I think it's very a product of 2025 if this had happened in 1995 he wouldn't be getting like handwritten

letters like it's not normal to have this much oversight from not your boss like it feels like Everyone, because every time James God was asked about it, he was like, stop asking me. I'm going to get it when I'd get it. Cut to every single journalist like, Matt Reeves, Matt Reeves. He's like, I'm riding a bad man. So my opinion is you can only release a movie once. You can only finish a screenplay and have it in that round of like we feel buttoned up once. Obviously, you do reshoots, you do rewrites, things happen.

But that handing end of a script needs to be to the point where you feel like it's done enough to go, this is the movie. And that, that's a one-time thing in my opinion. so I like that he and Mattson were given the grace to make the script they wanted and now hopefully it's in a position to keep the new schedule whatever that may be because this was delayed and this has moved but a sequel isn't normally two to three years like clockwork like it is in the modern era of movie making I think there's a lot of things that have made our attention span shorter and I think in that vein we've expected sequels to be like a TV show and And that's not reality. We've also expected things to be done yesterday, and that causes love and thunders and quantum manias. And I think I would rather have something that is more creator first than schedule first. I think we're seeing Marvel adjusting to let more creator freedom happen, but we're also seeing them set release dates. They have to change a few months later because it's impossible to shoot two of the biggest movies of all time and have them come out of year apart and somehow haven't been done.

Like, we're already seeing Marvel adjust and still have issues with schedule. What if instead we let our creators have the time they needed make it right and not, you know, do these things? So to me, the script is done. I'm excited. I'm confident. I know that James Gunn is so script forward in his green lighting process. He's been very clear about if his script isn't right or isn't done. Like we're not making the thing.

So now if we hear it's going into production, I have all the confidence because they got the time, because that's how James Gunn operates. And because this is beautifully an else world. I don't think James Gunn is going to be rushing elseworlds if by nature they're supposed to be independent of the DCU. Like, that's the point of allowing for else worlds is to allow things to be different and creative. Why rush that? Like, why would you be like, oh, schedules do uphold? So I love that the Batman 2 gets to come out when it is. A lot of sequels are like six to ten years apart before this modern era.

And I think it's a really good opportunity for an else world to feel like it's an actual elseworld. as opposed to like, okay, we've got a hurry because we got a Superman movie. Now it can be like the Batman movie. And then James Gunn can more freely do whatever he's going to do with Batman, like his Batman. He's not directing Batman. I don't want them to misconstrued misquote. Except DC Studios, the Batman in the DCU. It's a weird time to celebrate it, right?

It was bordering on the where Blade was at. No, it wasn't. Like Blade seems like it might not ever actually. actually get made. And I never had the doubt that the Batman Part 2 would not get made, but it seems like a lot of audiences and people who were invested in movie news and follow-ups started treating the Batman Part 2 like how Blade has been getting treated. Our friend Christian, like Harleaf doesn't think Batman 2 is going to happen.

Or like he was very... Well, isn't homeboy wrong? He just wrapped his live. If only we were here, jump into that one. Yeah, his script's done. Embarrassing Harloff. No, he actually texted me. He's like, hey, maybe I could help me out of the live.

Oh, that's very kind. But, like, he's someone that is informed. Like, Christian's a smart guy. Exactly. He's in the industry. So I'm just saying, like, even people outside of just yelling fans. Yeah, because of how we've been conditioned where movies and shows are now content pieces, which is really, really sad.

But it's a cool thing to celebrate, you know? People don't understand the writing process that well. Like, I'm the definition of. super amateur writer, you know? And I know from listening to so many writers and hearing so many writers that distance, time, space really does help the development process of a screenplay. And, you know, in the live stream, some of these points we were reiterating, and I'm going to be reiterating a good amount of it, is how a script oftentimes you might think is complete just because you hit the end on it. But then when you're getting notes and you're,

you're reflecting on it and time passes, you are able to separate your own emotional involvement. It's an emotional problem. That's what that's the part that I don't think a lot of people consider is that when you're writing it, you have to not just, you're not coming from your head. You have to come from your heart. And you get emotionally involved with it. So you end up loving things that perhaps other people aren't responding to. That's why the phrase you got to be willing to kill your babies exist because I'm sure he's had earlier drafts of this. already and perhaps there was stuff that he did love about it and he connected to but in the process of feedback and and reflecting that it wasn't working so your apps i think you make a

really amazing point about it's else worlds let them take their time there's no we're not trying to because when you're dealing with an interconnected universe a delay with one of those creates a domain yeah yeah but when it's an else world you don't really have to worry about that concern it also strengthens both right like it's strengthening your DCU and and it's strengthening your else world by having it come out when it's confident. Yeah.

And I also think that, I didn't mean to cut you off. I also think that it is a really tricky thing with the human element being ignored. We don't know what actually was going on with Matt Reeves. We heard health stuff. We heard family stuff. We don't know.

But I thought it was really gross that that felt like that was supposed to be like a pressure release valve. And instead it felt like people were like, we don't care about your real life. Right, Batman. And the interview I posted. DC Studio Showcase show I do when we posted the James Gun

interview I posted a social media clip and I remember someone commented I really want blank character write writer right and I was like and it hit me like oh that's how some people see creatives that's how some people see writing

any art and then like it's very gross to be like a court jester mentality one yay and a king if you have time to write a message boards two like I hate that we denigrate artists and to me the Matt Reeves thing was one of the grossest examples of the biggest and smallest outlets being

like, I don't care about the person, I care about the product. And I just want to take a second to be like, hey, person. Yeah. So that also grossed me out. So I'm glad this is done. Hopefully this also means that whatever that was is in a good place. Like whatever that is, I hope that dude's good.

You know? Yeah, I mean, I hope his health is in a good place for sure if that is a rumor to be believed. But on addition, on top at that this is a sign of really great confidence it sucks if the movie ends up not being good i highly doubt it will be good matt reeves uh makes bangers every single time i've never seen a bad apes from him i'm not like yeah he's so consistent he's a he's an incredibly consistent director and he's a he's a director who also evolves every time and i'm sure he's only interested in evolving i think we're going to get something really special on our hands like the announcement of a script actually being done

especially with this is a very different feeling than the announcement of the any other script. I don't think I've been like, oh my God, a script is done in a while. Like I've never, it's like, hey, update. It's done instead of like breaking news. Yeah, because it's also very much an artist association to it. Like it was very clear that an artist wrote this, not a pressure of producers, not a pressure of committee. It's very much like they let James Gunn staying true to his word about we're going to let artist art and he's got to do it. That's a really good point. I do like that. in the delays, it shows a trust and a flexibility.

And I think that's really important when you're starting a studio. You don't want there to be, you know, the studio side of things. You want there to be the filmmaker side of things. And I also want to give Mattson Tomlin as flowers because we were talking about Matt Reeves a lot. But the other writer on this, there's two writers is Matt Reeves and Matton Tomlin. A lot of people don't realize like this is a collaborative situation. And Mattson is such a good writer. Mattson wrote the berser movie they're making from Keanu Reeves comic.

he's written one of my favorite single volumes of the berser comic but he also wrote that uh that terminator animated show for netflix like mattson is a fantastic writer and i know i've worked in thatson a couple times through berserker things i love the dude and he's so passionate about batman and he's so passionate about matt reeves vision of batman so uh in all of this i've also been really rooting for mattson so i'm just i'm really happy for him as well for this to be handed in and he's in the picture of the announcement like just proud of the dude i like how we uh both subconscious agreed to cheat our chairs out. Yep.

I noticed that I was like breaking the fourth wall. As we were talking, I'm like, we both decided to not directly look at each other. I think the room allows for this kind of because we can like it. Let's pivot out here. That's expert manipulation on my part. I set the chairs that. Did you? Yeah.

Well done. You know, John never comes in to credit himself. That was a, yeah, that's true. Rare. That's a coy and Greg move. That really is. By the way, I'm going to show my mic on. make sure you know that you didn't subtly do shit.

Well, no, I was in here last night. I was in here in the wee hours going, okay, how will this work best and be most appealing? And that's where the table guys. Because this looks dope and now I feel more confident in there being an audience and a Greg. That's true. That's true.

Well, what do you guys think about the Batman too, finally being done? And yes, I think they're doing Cord of Al's 100%. I bought that. The saga. I started reading it on the train in New York, but then I was like, I should probably catch up on my Superman comics. Yeah.

The things are coming out this month. Yeah. I'm glad you read the things that are like coming out this month. Like pivoting to Fantastic Gordon Superman is great for now. Get into Batman later because we've got some big movies coming out. And then whenever we have a Spider-Man, and he's like, I'm going to read Spider-Man. And actually, that's a great transition because it happened last night.

Well, first off, in the comments, what do you guys think Batman Part 2 will be about? Speculation will go on for a while. But once I realized we're going to be talking about this, I was like, I want to read Punisher's first appearance. Yeah, amazing. My 21, my dumb ass did not know who was a Spider-Man. No way.

And I was like, oh, suddenly I was very pessimistic about this Punisher thing. And I don't know a lot of people are excited because, you know, it's Punisher. I'm like, because Punisher is like,

he should be an R-rated thing. What's going to like have a cameo for? And like, what's he going to be, I don't, like, what's you really going to do in this movie, right?

So I was my cynical side was coming out of me But then once I was looking it up And then I read it last night I was like oh it's not gonna be it's gonna be anything like it No but I got excited at the appropriateness and the honor of Punisher where he first made as a first appearance in Spider-Man Now gets to be in the spider-man movie. I'm like okay That's pretty sweet Yeah, man

Yeah that got me excited What role do you think he's going to actually what is this fucking movie going to be like because I've been reading brand new day as well I'm reading I'm really taking my time with that brand new day is very much a status quo changing comic yeah the whole point is like a soft reboot and this is what the movie is so I don't know if it's going to follow it's not like a specific story it's an era yeah and it's huge in fact the brand new day volume is only about a third of the brand new day arc if you actually look at what brand new day represents it's like almost a hundred 120 issues. So the brand new day that you pick up is like 40. So that's already huge. That's why you should get

the Marvel Unlimited app. And just read it all for a monthly price. But I love that it is a status quo change, but it's also a status quo change that brings it back to classic spidey tone.

Like it feels like a Silver Age comic. The issue in question is a Silver Age comic. So I think brand new day is going to be more about the conversation about a new status quo about like a brand new day. But also,

trying to make it mirror those characters. I think it might be some of the characters from Brand New Day like Mr. Negative. I think it might be some of the things like more of a crime saga. You know, who deals with criminals pretty directly. Like, I think it's going to be a street level gang war kind of story, because that's very heavily in Brand New Day, but it also affects

Punisher pretty directly. He's a gang war kind of guy. So what I see this as is John Bernthal really want to expand his role in the Marvel Universe. He's getting a special. It starts shooting soon. Suppose they're only shooting for a month. it's a special I think that's good like movies can shoot for three and be great

a special I think a month's good like that seems reasonable to me especially if they're shooting stuff leading right in Spider-Man so I think that it is a really good opportunity for the John Bernthal Punisher to be integral to the universe to show that he works in an R-rated special and R-rated show but also

in a PG-13 setting if they do it totally right but also for Marvel who needs some big wins to use some of their freaking headliners I think Marvel needs more headliner content. I think Fantastic 4 is a good. They're not A-listers. They're B-plus listers. I think Punisher in the MCU is an A-lister. So I think Punisher, X-Men, Spider-Man. Like, you got to get that morale back. You got to rebuild that brand. Putting Punisher and Spider-Man together is like a no-question grand slam. So I think it's good for John Barthold.

And they're working on the Odyssey together. And yeah, so they're friends. Yeah. They auditioned each other for the roles. Like John helped with his actual audition. And Tom actually helped. They both know each other way back. Okay. So I love that like in real life two dudes that respect each other working together. I love that working together now. They got this all cooking. I think this also shows how much Tom Holland's involved.

Like it feels like he's very invested and he said that this is the first time he's producing. This is the first time he's involved with creative. To me it feels like, hey, my buddy's the Punisher. Perhaps we do that thing all the fans want. I also think it shows a confidence in the street level side. I hear, I don't know if this is true, but I hear they've been intentionally leaking, misleading fake storylines. Like Professor Hulk and stuff.

Please do more of that. If we're going to sue people for fake trailers, do fake leaks. Like, I love this. Tell me 10 different movies. So when I see a movie, it's actually a new experience. That makes sense.

I mean, like, I don't see a version where I could, I guess there's a version where Hulk and Punisher could be in the same movie. I could see Hulk. But it would be odd that there's the big rumor about Hulk, but not confirmed, but they will confirm Punisher. Right.

With casting and everything. Yeah, you'd think that they would confirm Hulk if that is a true thing. Maybe closer to it? Yeah, perhaps. But either way, like, I love that right now we get to have this conversation as opposed to knowing what the movie is. They're just so two completely different tones that you would get. You tell me Hulk's in the Spider-Man movie versus Punisher. I'm imagining two very different films, you know.

Unless one's the opening villain. Sure. You know what I mean? Unless one is the long game. Like, that could be like, oh, this crazy. How much Spider-Man's going through? And the Punisher's first appearance, the, I didn't know the story of it. And he's, he's not a straight up villain. He, like, the Spider-Man is accused of a wrongdoing. And Punisher is teamed up with the character named Jackal. And he's, he's hunting Spider-Man. And when he has his moment to, when they have their moment to kill him, Punisher chooses against it presenting a moral code, even though he wants to murder him. He's like, no, he can't die this way. Like, it's not right. And that's not something I actually even associate so much with John Bernthal's Punisher as the guy who will stop and be like, wait.

He just, John Berthel's Punisher strikes me as a guy who will just murder and do whatever it takes to get the job done. And I thought that was one of the more interesting elements of that of that comic. Especially in one issue. Yeah. That's a single issue. 129 is the only like Punisher comes back in 135. It's the only time you see him for six months. And Jackal is a very different kind of character.

And that's kind of what I'm saying with Hulk that could work because they can have disparate tones. And I mean, Jackal is who clones Spider-Man. Like, that's the guy that starts the clone saga. Like, Dr. Warren, the Jackal, in issue 150 clones him, which leads to the clone saga with Ben Riley, which leads to all the stuff. Like, it's crazy where that goes. But Jackal's a very different, not grounded villain. Like, that's the biggest out there thing. And I think that's a really cool marketing opportunity, too. By having Punisher and Spider-Man, you can do that cover. You can recreate moments. Like, you can do the more, like, the Marvel universe is looking more comicky, we could finally see Punisher and like very stark. Maybe the gloves

that be crazy. Like you can do a lot of really crazy stuff. So this is peak excitement. This is just good news. Well, in terms of the moral code, like that's the constant battle that he has a daredevil. Yeah. But he's immovable on his compass, Punisher. So what if through circumstances, maybe that might have piqued John Berthal's interest in doing this, that his moral code, that he can actually be pierced a little bit. from his interaction with Spider-Man and maybe have him question how he does approach things and he should have some type of line or actually have code in place. You know, so I think there's a way to, I just don't want it to be a cameo, basically.

I want it to be something where there's an actual bit of character development. I don't feel like either one would want that. And if Tom Holland is having control. And if John Bernthal is leveraging, like, how popular he's become, I don't feel like, I don't think it'd be a cameo because of the two of them. and just for me as a fan like this is something I've always wanted to see and I really think John Bernthal is the best possible

Punisher so I'd love to see it sooner than later like I don't want to see it in the inevitable 10 year down the road reboot I want to see it with this Punisher right now so I'm so excited I mean I only have 21 Spitties left I finally got two new issues in the last three months of Spider-Man I was at 23 issues for the longest time

I got two recently I only did 21 more comics to have every Spider-Man ever in print every run everything ever like we're talking amazing spectacular Peter Parker ultimate like everything I have 21 issues left one of them is the first Punisher wow it is the most recent issue I need in the world of of Spider-Man and so now this has inspired me to be like all right maybe I move that dollar sign over like because I want it like this is inspiring me as a collector to be like

this could be crazy in two years so like it's also fun just as a collector to be like do I save like it's fun so like I think this is it and all the right things and it increases our odds too of having dare goop will be in it and kingpin and that's the big hope yeah I don't I've been saying that I personally don't feel like Kingman should be the main villain this one I feel like he should be the main villain in the following one that's I'd love I'd love him pulling strings yeah I think they should be setting him up yeah yeah and a crime saga with Punisher seems like the right way to do it yeah yeah they clearly have a direction but it is pretty cool how they're shaping all this to be are you guys stoked about it yeah I I initially

when I first heard it but through the process of discussion I was like, oh, this is actually pretty cool. I had a moment with it where I saw it and I went, cool. And then I was like, am I so desensitized to movie news that I just brushed that? And then I like sat and I was like, how do I feel? And then I was like, oh, I feel crazy. Like it was really funny to read a headline and realize we have so much content that I read it and didn't let my fandom get excited. And I had to like mindfully go, how do you feel?

It's not a headline. This is going to affect you. And then I loved it. I mean, it speaks to the bigger problem that crossover of characters is no longer as exciting as it once was. No. Like it really is not. It's just a norm now.

And that's why I think we should slow down and look at these moments as moments and not let it just be a headline. Like the crossover one that excited me that apparently a lot of people are not excited about that Joseph Kaczynski pitched. Oh my God, days of thunder and F1. Dude. That rubbing is racing. That one of like people were just getting so technical about it. I don't care. How would they did NASCAR and F1, whatever?

I don't know the fucking terminology. But I'm like, this is a great reason to get Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise together for a stunt heavy movie. Brad Pitt literally races NASCAR in F1. The one movie they did together was interview with a vampire, which a lot of people like, I understand. But I think if you do Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt in a crossover like that, you are getting quintessential versions of them. That was them both being Thespians. I want to see them be movie stars. I want to see them be who I like saying.

It wasn't just be their personalities. Yeah. And I want to see them do stunts together and stuff. And so we're seeing Tom Cruise embrace. I mean, Brad Pitt embraced that with F1, which I adored. And then to see, and if Tom, you know, Tom Cruise would just want to up it. You want to up the game. It would be insane.

And it would be. And I feel like they're kind of, they, I feel like Tom Cruise would want to do that. Like seeing them. hug on the carpets and stuff. You went to support. He flew in. It was nuts to me because I often forget they had that one movie together. They're like the two movie stars.

Yeah. When I was growing up and I'm sure you knew it too, is like there's the actors who would compare, you know, Stallone Schwartz and Egg or De Niro Pacino. And there was Pitt and Cruz. Yeah. And Pitt and Cruz are, you know, they're still like huge people and they, they're dudes willing to do their own stunts and they're mega stars. The one thing that I think they would run in.

into in conflict, though, is Tom Cruise seems to very much be when you're on a Tom Cruise production. He's running the set. Tom Cruise is running the show. Yeah. And so Brad Pitt would definitely have to be willing to play secondary. He's going to do that. I think just the billing would have to be them both headline. Like, it'd have to be the same time credit. It would have to be like side by side and press. But on the filming days, I think Tom Cruise would be running. But Brad Pitt also is way more willing to play supporting than Tom Cruise ever is. Yeah. But either way, Joseph Kaczynski directing it

like how can you that when I saw that picture like oh my God I need this so bad and it's also a surprise crossover like one you wouldn't expect but would make sense and you could totally weave

and it would be more than just a legacy sequel to a rather underappreciated talkers movie I don't even know how beloved that Dave's a Thunder movie really is really okay I actually haven't I'm not even sure I've seen it okay so in F1 his name is

Sonny Hayes, which is a great 80s action star name in Days of Thunder. His name is Cole Trickle, which is just as much of it. It's like been written for 40 years to make a sequel to right now. This is heat and the expendables. It's all of the drama of these two crossing over plus the action of expendables. This is what our generation needs to heal. I'm glad we're on the same page. Days of Thunder 2.

I'm glad we're on the same page. I want it so bad. This is, this is, this is BVS for 90s movie covers. Like this is the crossover of the century but not with IP because not no one cares about Days of Thunder as much as Batman and Superman as IP That means they can be flexible, but it's all the intensity of heat and what a great way to Repromote F1 for the amount of money they put into it 100% and then it's going to be like exclusively on Apple Yeah what a great way to recoup some of that days of thunder 2 F2 you don't even you call you yeah I don't know what you would call it but I don't feel like you would even need to.

I don't think if you announce it, people would just be excited. They're just going to see them too on a poster. Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt in a movie together doing their own stunts. People would freak out. Untitled car movie. I don't care what it's called. F2 Rolling Thunder.

Oh, yes. Yeah, there you go, baby. I was going to go Days of Thunder, but yours is way better. Get the Fun and Thunder, baby. I want that so bad. Yeah. Do you guys want that? New headline in this episode is just the passion for Days of Thunder.

All right. The big one. It's cool to see people excited about a director. This is weird because remove Deni, who is the director you constantly hear about possibly being attached or people wanting to direct a Bond movie? I recently heard a name and it surprised me. Who was it? I thought like Yermo or someone's attached. John, which name do you hear most often?

Farrelly brothers. No, it's got to be Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan's the name I hear all the time. That dude's making epics. All the time. And it seems like, I don't know if Christopher Nolan would do that. I think Denise was even more unlikely because of how specific of a director he is. Yeah, he makes spectacle, but he makes, like, dread heavy films.

I don't, like, Nolan makes fun. He's so nice blockbusters. Yeah, he makes fun, you know? Yeah. Even if they're, like, Oppenheimer, you're somehow super entertained for three hours. Deni makes films that are, yeah, like, Sakar. You think of, like, Sicario, a rival. I don't think of anything he does.

But he makes, but he knows how to do action. Amazing. Sicario especially shows that arrival even, but like, I think prisoners. I think Dune. So, like, I think the darkest of dark of dark. And, like, Dune is a slow burn. Bond is not. Yeah.

So, like, Chris Nolan has made Bond a bunch. He made Tenet. He made Inception. Like, he's done the thing. So you're right. Like, that is a way more one-to-one. And I know that he kind of, like, designed his career around. wanting to make Bond.

Didn't he came out of left field, but immediately has me the most excited for Bond I've ever been. Yeah, I think what Daniel Craig brought has reinvented the possibility of what you can do

with James Bond. Yeah. What I think he will bring is a new atmosphere, a new world to step into. Like, Casino Royale is absolutely one of my, I mean, honestly, I haven't seen that many Bond movies,

but it's my favorite Bond having seen seven bonds. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, out of the few I've seen, that's my favorite. Having started at Golden Island. Exactly. It's new who.

But I do love, yeah, it is pretty much that. Regardless, like, we also kind of know what bond is associated with with the aesthetics and tone and people were constantly contemplating. Like, hey, we'll go back to the 60s. What would you do after the events of no time to die? Yeah. We were cynical as fuck about it. We talked about it in the show with Amazon doing it. 100%.

About the universes they want to create. A shared bond universe. Yeah. A show. All these things that would dilute the. the property, the intellectual property, the last thing I ever expected was a name like him to do this. An a chore director is not what I thought Amazon would be like, let me counter all this.

Like those two words, like Deni Valneuve, I'm immediately, Amazon doesn't matter. Like, it's the one of maybe 10 names where they could say it and I'm like, I don't care. Yeah. Like, no matter what, I think it's going to be great. In fact, it must be the, in fact, it's probably like the biggest challenge for him. Oh, he did Blade Runner 2049 too. But you see, but Blade Runner 2049. It's still an art house.

It's in his wheel. Yeah. You see like, yeah. It's dread. Yeah. Like he mainly relies. He mainly uses dread. Yeah.

As even Dune, as big as Dune is, it's a dread heavy experience. That's probably the one part about it where I'm wondering how audiences will, even, but for all we know, he might do a completely different swing and go for it. He might try some new for him. He might try to honor what he grew up with with Bond instead of going for this, you know, the more tone that he's associated with. He's also will have just come off doing three dunes, which is a lifetime. Like, you know, he's been on this forever.

He's lived in this world. Maybe he wants to be like, can I make an action movie? Like he might want the palate cleanse for him. Yeah. And I'd be curious what an action movie without dread even looks like from 10, you know. But I think he will regardless do something very creative and experimental. Yeah. And he's also really good at doing that kind of vibe.

He's also really good at working with intellectual properties. I don't even know what his bond artist will be. you know like just sandworm screaming like because the bond directors usually have an artist that makes their song that like feels like their rhythm like i'm already like i've never been as big of a bond fan to be like it's two years away and like who's the artist like i'm so excited i'm jacked in that'll be hansimmer no lyrics yeah i'm stoked man this this i mean between punisher and spider man and this and then brad and tom like cinema's back what's cool too is i don't recall the time where

maybe I mean I haven't lived long enough but I don't this might be correct me if I'm wrong this might be the first time in bond history where people are super excited about a new bond without the announcement of a bond just the announcement

of a director like Martin Campbell did do golden eye and he came back for casino royale but I don't remember the hype being about that it was the controversy of blonde hair blue wide Daniel Craig being in the role not Martin Campbell coming back to redo Bond. I think Sam Mendes had some hype.

But I'm talking about it. Craig was already. Yeah. Craig was already there so it was about Craig. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. I also don't think they've ever, yeah,

they've never been director first. I haven't even been hearing about fan speculation about who the new bond will be in all that. I don't care now. That's what I mean. It's like I kind of trust him whatever. Yeah. Put Timothy shout with me in.

Do it. Skinny Bond. And then Zendaya is the Bond girl. Rights itself. Rights itself. Javier Bar Dem is the bad guy again. The name's Atreides. Paul Atreides.

Just get everyone the same back. Oh, man, that'd be cool. I get awesome Butler. Hey. Hey. Hey. No, he wouldn't. I think he happens.

My name's Bond. I have a peanut butter and banana sandwich. Chunky. Not smooth. I want that so bad. Wood watch. Wood watch tomorrow. Well, it's getting.

him to changes the whole perception of Amazon's approach. Yeah. Because sure, he's doing this one, but is he going to be assigned for the next few? Or is it just, you normally bond changes directors. Sam Mendes did two back to back, but that's not really common with the Bond franchise. If

he does a great job, it'll attract other autores willing to do it. That makes the likelihood of Nolan doing this. Yeah. With Amazon money. Yeah. Oh, my God. There's actual possibility. It's weird. This one choice. more than this is this speaks way more volume than any actor you could have got in decapria

yeah yeah i don't care who daniel de louis comes out of retirement to play bond i'm less invested we got a pretty invest one british actor yeah although if his danieless i'd be like what is that would be a wild bond movie no that would be the closest to this feeling but i would i'm still more invested in denny yeah because that's speaking to a vision yeah and like an entire tone and shape you could do a bad daniel de louis bond i don't know that i have any doubts in a denny bond like it is such a director choice of tone like that is going to be the shape whatever shape he chooses we don't know but that's special yeah man he does make like cool shit though too right i mean he's it's just full of dread like 2049 like prisoners is pretty cool too like prisoners is my favorite

jillian hall or hugh jackman performance it's it's a sad experience i can't watch it off it's a hard experience but does look cool though it's like cool yeah Hugh Jackman like it's like scarier than any Wolverine shot yeah it was Roger Deakin's cinematat

Roger Deacon's worked on Bonn before I think he's my favorite DP I think he did no time to die I don't have time to die I think he did Skyfall I think he did Skyfall I think he might have done Quantum no that was Mark Forrester

I don't think he did that one he might have done the follow up to Skyfall I'm not sure Deacons is my favorite DP Like I use my like really hard I can't I literally cannot name one I believe it is just Skyfall just Skyfall yeah

That looks like a the deacons movie too Yeah but that's kind of my point like I know The senator photographer for Dune is beloved Because he's on the Batman as well and he's an incredible defeat His name escapes me Oh oh Oh my God He's trying to become him

He's transforming into him Greg Greg's oh what is it Fraser? Greg Fraser? Greg Fraser. But that's the closest to a second, but that's, I literally will see a movie if I see it's Deacons. There's no other DP that I'll like, I'm just not that kind of film watcher. I mean, it's just, Frazier's pretty good.

Oh, no, no. But like, if I hear him, he did Dune. If I hear Frazier, I get excited. I'm just saying like, I click on Deacons as IMDB and I like, that's the only DP that I'll seek out. Well, Deacons has a look. Yeah, dude. I've seen movies where I didn't know Deacons.

made it, but I guess it was him because of how it looks. He duped Rango, an animated movie with Johnny Depp playing a photo realistic crazy lizard, and it looks like a Deacon's film. I actually didn't know he deped 1917 until, but I was watching going like, The lighting looks

like Deacon. He's really good with like the shadows, too, the way he does night. So expressive. And Sicario. We've never talked about cinematography here. Don't. And this is a real remix. This is the most film school episode of this pod ever.

I think so too. In a positive way. In a very positive. It's the one benefit of today. Yeah. So, yeah, Bond. I'm excited for it, man. Especially we're talking about Bond ever as friends or on camera, I think.

Oh, we talked about Amazon buying it, but not in a way that's exciting. Yeah. Flippily. I would be excited if Henry Cavill did get the role though. I would be excited, but I would expect it to be a much older skewing bond so that he could actually be it for a few movies because, like, time is happening. So they'd have to, like, establish it as that. I just feel like Henry keeps getting kicked out of.

like iconic roles. I know, I feel bad. I mean, he was kicked out on the journey end, too. He auditioned for like Edward Cullen. He auditioned for other Superman. Like, leave your thoughts down below. I guess we'll end on this weird thing James Cameron said. Well, that's fun. The Twitter one is only doing, you know, the moral cop out one where he's saying

Oppenheimer is a moral cop out for not showing Japanese bombing. I felt that it dodged the subject. And of course, people are forming massive opinions around that. On Twitter? No. But the full quote, John, why don't you read it? Deadline asks, you say this could be your lowest grossing film because of the subject matter. How surprised were you that Christopher Nolan's movie Oppenheimer grossed almost $1 billion and won seven Oscars?

Clearly people are interested in that whole splitting of the atom to which Cameron responds. Yeah, it's interesting what he stayed away from. Look, I love the filmmaking, but I did feel that it was a bit of a moral cop out because it's not like Oppenheimer didn't know the effects. He's got one brief scene in the film where we see, and I don't like to criticize another filmmaker's film, but there's only one brief moment where he sees some charred bodies in the audience, and then the film goes on to show how it deeply moved him. But I felt that it dodged the subject. I don't know whether the studio or Chris felt that that was a third rail.

They didn't want to touch, but I want to go straight at that third rail. I'm just stupid that way. I feel like he's kind of missing the point in the movie. Yep. But he's not the first person that say this. We've heard this criticism before.

Not usually from smart people. Yeah, it's true. And he's smart. He's a very smart guy. James Cameron. He's genius. And he is totally criticizing another filmmaker's movie.

He's also lacking a moral compass lately. The, with the AI stuff. Yeah, like he's sacrificing lives today while condemning someone for not showing lives. I don't know.

I mean, sorry, please give me your thoughts. I mean, to me, I just don't feel like he gets the scene. The scene is the movie. It's the whole point is the it's the POV of him. He wasn't there on the grounds for this. He didn't visit the ground site.

So yeah, if you could, it would be the first time they would cut away from the movie's called Oppenheimer. And it's a very specific perspective. And you do it. They don't break that perspective. It's not called Hiroshima or Nagasaki and it involves those horrific moments and events. And it is about those horrific moments and events, but only in that it's about the man that felt impossible to understand guilt

of the knowledge of the ramifications. I think the ramifications are clear from day one of the film. Like he knows when he sets out in this journey the horrors of what it is and then he lives in complete brokenness for causing and allowing it. Like the whole movie is him,

I feel, acknowledging the thing that he claims in this quote not to acknowledge. Now this is a tiny quote, obviously taken with very minimal context. But there is a hollowness to the statement that I, I feel in some of James Cameron's latest work that I think is interesting that he would say that about his work.

Like, to me, the environmental nature of Avatar is very important. But I feel more drawn to actually do anything about it watching Fern Gully. Like, I think there's a hollowness to Avatar that doesn't get criticized because of the spectacle. I mean, this is what you're touching on is what I feel like James Cameron was putting how he would make it. And I feel like he would kind of make a spectacle of the... That's what I'm saying, of the death. is horrific in its own way. Yeah, he would make the terminate

and that's what's so ironic about the guy that's like being a proponent for AI who invented SkyNet, which he knows the dangers of. Like the entire Oppenheimer press tour around the movie was making sure the dangers of technology advancing to the point of causing

harm was inherent to not just the movie but the press. Meanwhile dude is like, what are you going to do? I'll take lots of jobs. Like that's crazy. And the movie also is showing that these people are making this on their grounds, their terrain. They're celebrating what they've been able to build. The American people in the auditorium are celebrating. And it's a horror scene. And you're able to celebrate and rejoice in this and victory when you keep yourself

at a distance of the actual ramifications and the lives are lost when you don't expose yourself to it. Yeah. But in that scene that he's touching on, it's not about showing the, the aftermath. of the burned bodies, it is showing that he is aware of the ramifications and the lives and the harm that was caused. He cannot participate with the distance that everyone else is able to do. So I think he's kind of missing the point of not showing it. Yeah, I agree. And it's just as an odd quote from a smart man.

Well, and to what you said, the deadline interviewer does immediately follow up by saying Nolan answered that criticism by basically saying, I hope somebody tells that story. but to me, this wasn't that story. Yeah. Did he respond to that? He said, okay, I'll put up my hand. I'll do it, Chris. No problem.

You come to my premiere and say nice things. I can't tell you today what's going to be in the movie. I've been working, making notes for 15 years, and I haven't read a word of the script yet, but there's a point where it's all there and you start to write. That's how I always work. Wait, what? That's a real thing.

I'm just reading off the interview. And he said all that? Yeah. That's weird. he's a weird man he's a weird man he's a weird man yes opanimer two coming soon from the other pov and a man that makes action spectacles i don't know i really like james cameron he's made he's made one of my 26 five-star films like i feel like he'll do that the the iroshima story it'll be about a couple in love who are trying to escape and they're not able to that's what

james yeah yeah man and there'll be really really evil americans and really really good japanese yeah exactly it's it's so tricky i and i do like james Cameron but like that is that is an odd read of a film that I think is pretty clear what I picked up on this conversation is I liked way of water way more than you I think it's I think it's one of the most visually stunning hollow narratives that made a billion dollars which is impressive because Transformers movies also made a billion dollars I love the way of water I really did I felt so little that I was worried that I was developing sociopathine and then I saw it a second time and felt even weirder about people crying. And I was like, what am I misreading?

It just the writing and the stiffness and the heavy handedness made me go like, guys, you see the same movie. And like, I'm going to be day one, Avatar 72, you know, but like at the same time, I really wish he was making stuff like he did the abyss and the, I would rather see him come back to Terminator in the time we need it. But right now he's working for the Terminator. Well, he needs to get some Avatar movies started it. That's true. He's like, you know what? Humanities really caused a lot of environmental harm.

Let me go ahead and AI render to this scene that's going to drain 82 lakes. Send. I'm often saying Terminator 2 and The Matrix are like my, they often compete for my favorite movie of all time. The Matrix is definitely a much smarter movie. And I still think I'd give it to Terminator's. I love Terminator 2. It's got the heart factor. Yeah, it's got the more.

the emotion that I like. Yeah. The abyss is my favorite James Cameron film and we reacted on the channel and I love Terminator too, but I think the abyss is like all of the heart I wanted from Avatar. Like it's so human and it's such an alien story. And that's what I think upset me about way of water. Because I thought Avatar 1 was going to set up a beautiful world so that he could invest in the characters and he could invest in making us care about this world.

And then I hear people that are like, you know, I'm so depressed because, Because Pandora is not real and people going to therapy because then I'm like, I didn't see that movie. I'd love to. Like, I want to feel what other people feel with Avatar. I didn't feel it at all with the first one. Really? I really didn't. I did not.

I did not experience. I actually, we didn't have a channel and then. I avoided the trailers and the trailers were playing the theaters. I run out of the theater. Wow. I wanted and seen nothing. All I saw was a poster. That's all I saw.

So I thought I would get the ultimate immersive experience. And I just sat there for most of it going, why do I feel absolutely nothing? And why am I waiting for this movie? That's how I felt with the way of water. Because I had built it up to where you were with the first one. I'm like, this is the one. I'm a feel. And I was like, yeah, I didn't feel jacking the first one.

But I liked him more on the rewatch at home. But I did. That's ironic. I don't know really, right? It's weird. Of any movie. You know, Avatar really hit me at home. Yeah, it's fine.

It's fun. But yeah, the way of water I did enjoy. But that's our thoughts. that let's read some questions from the um john why do you want them to us we had um we had some super chats that came in you want to just pull them up all righty first question from the lovely myunk superhero fan thank you for chiming in hey coin gregg hello i recently posted my iron heart review on my insta page someone yeah someone commented that if i unironically like it i'm wrong they have not replied to my query of why they did not like it

Why so much hate? Well, I appreciate the super chat there. You have so much hate because people have made up their minds. Before a frame was on it. Beforehand. And maybe they really don't like it. And they don't know how to have the ability to accept that people can have different opinions. So they're deadbeat losers who are unconfident to make their own content and put their own reviews up.

Yeah, you were brave. You put your opinion on the internet, which is a bold thing to do. So they're little bitches who try to take other people down due to them feeling inferior. Whether or not, it doesn't matter what their opinion is. If they think it's woke, virtue signaling, oh, she, you, whatever the hell they want to say. I'm not even like, I wasn't even a big fan of the first three episodes. I really, like, if you watch our video, I'm like, I was not really, I was not, I like, like the third one relatively enough, but the first two really didn't cut it for me. But we articulated our opinions and thoughts.

So someone just being like, it also like the phrasing of that, it could just literally be a bot, but also bots and people that write that on strangers pages are very similar IQ. So it just could be a dumb person. To hell with them. Yeah. But appreciate you. And bold swing on the opinion, man. Make art. What's next, Jay?

This is going to be a, here we are. This is going to be a fascinating one. Daniel Lopez, 3606. thank goodness no diversity James Bond I love Deni films

Sicario is sleeper Gregor Coy should react to it in your channel I would just like to point out really quick that Denis Villeneuve is a Frenchman

let's get going It is a man named Denis Valenuv You know not a very diverse Like what is this I'm for every sentence of this confused me

What's the first part of the sentence The director is neither black nor a lady. Oh, I see. Thank goodness, no diversity, James Bond. But we haven't announced James Bond. Okay, sir. I haven't announced Bond.

Vaughn could be black, Asian, Korean. And I mean, Sicario stars a lady and a Hispanic guy. Every cent. Yeah, because then he praises Sicario. Arrival, so stars a lady. But he mainly does do movies or white boys. He does do pretty white men. Zendaya is a lead of Dune with Javier Bardem.

No, the lead is Timothy, but there's a real lead. No, but like, the leading cast isn't all white dudes. I'm like, it's an ensemble. There's Javier, Zundaya. Those white names you just listed.

But, I mean, there's, there's, I think the cast is primarily white, right? But like, when I hear Denny Villanoub, I don't go like, thank goodness for crackers. What else has he made? Arrival. That's a very whitey cast. With a woman lead.

Amy Adams is the letter. Is it. He's always got at least. one black guy. I just don't like I said he phrases so he's assuming that because of this the bond will be a boy boy that's what I'm reading I see what was this question uh just more of a comment I suppose I love Denise films Sicario is sleeper Greg or Coy should react to it in your channel get get on that I've seen both I love them um well we do have a Sicario reaction on the part of me is hoping that he does go fully woke on this one just to ruffle some feather

Idris. Idris would be good. He'd be a good bond, dude. He'd be a good one. Dave Chappelle. Anna to Armas. Marlon Wands. I want that martini shake it.

Not stirred. All right. Chaz Bustos, 6790. Thank you so much to Chaz. Beast and Thing getting great comic book accuracy in the MCU makes my heart smile. Does it make your guys heart smile? I hope Beast looks more 3D next time But yeah

I think like a very Comic accurate Like underbite Beast is exciting I didn't love the CGI of him In the first instance But that can always grow and improve He does look comic accurate In that he looks 2D

But I think The thing looks amazing And I'm really hoping I think Eben is perfect So I'm really hopeful Here we go I don't think people I'm not sure I'll ever come around

On Beast and CGI Yeah I mean, he was, he's, he's practical effects and you brought back the guy who played him in the practical effects. That's why I was excited. Like, Yoda was cool in the prequels, but I get why they CGIed him for the amount of like flipping around they had him do. But when they, when he was back to practical and Last Jedi, I remember his device of as a movie is, the whole audience clapped. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, the real fucking Yoda version.

Yeah. Like it's somehow like a physical Yoda. Yeah. Yeah, and for hardcore comic fans like yourself and what you're saying, yeah, you appreciate it. But if you're not into comics, I think if you want the more universal appeal, practical will hit way harder. It's opposed to just tending to your niche. I like feeling like there's someone on screen. And that is, thing looks real.

Thing does agree. And that's what I hope we get to with, I mean, if there's a big movie. I would meet Marvel there with. Yeah, I agree. That's that, but I don't want to ruin your... I love that you're happy. Here's something fun. Daniel Lopez, 36.6, is back and just has a little word of support for you guys,

said you both should do more live streams instead of pre-recorded podcasts. Not anymore. Every live stream we do goes to shit these days. That is hilarious timing. We cannot. We got to really figure. We got to like hire someone. That was stressful, dude.

Bring someone in, man. And it was like we did, we did the multi-con live. And that was like a whole production. Yeah. It was smooth. That internet was magic. And there were like 10 cameras on that. That's what I mean.

And it was sunset. It was insanely smooth. This should be so easy. A walk in the park. They got that crazy-ass internet. But like, fiber should be fibering. It should be. I, like, I limped into today.

Like, I was so tired waking up. And I was like, we have a, we have a plan. we have a commitment. This is a big episode. And you guys had way more pressure than me. I'm just attending this room. You guys have built this room. You guys have been building the studio. But I came in like, oh, my, John crushed visually. Like, this is amazing. And he has no control over the internet.

Like, you did everything you could. So it was really hard when I was like, I don't have the bandwidth today, but I'm going to do a live because I'm a man of my word. And then when everything went to hell, I was like, I don't have the energy to be angry. And I've just been riding that, that sigh for the last hour. We want to do. I like, I like doing live streams. So I was really sad that we couldn't. But thank you.

I'm glad you want to see them. But yeah, next time we go live, we're going to make sure it's fucking the best thing in the world, for sure. All right. Rood, O7. What are y'all's, and thank you, Rood. What are y'all's personal fancast choices for the new DCU Batman? For DCU, I'm still a John Hamm sucker. I would love a John Hamm.

No, wait, what I'm going to talk about Josh Brolin? That's what I thought I thought you were on the Josh Rowland train. Yeah, Josh Brom. Roland just looks like him in from the dark night return so I would and he's this voice to if you if you can get Aquaman be Lobo you can get Thanos and cable to be Batman I I like Milo Ventimilia um I think we have very different bits yeah well it depends on the age like you know if you're going to have him as a young father and someone that is doing a paternal take that also I think could be a great Bruce Wayne and also could be like very commanding I think Milo really shows

range to be like authoritative paternal like i think there's a cool uh element there uh i also really really like jane hall he's auditioned for every round like he's done like the last four batmans like he's been in the last running i think if you get like a prisoners speaking of prisoners if you get like a prisoner's jillen hall as like dark and brooding and broken then you can still have the charming movie star like music man you know like very like that would make the justice League work with like comedically brooding without being campy and i think that's going to be a fine line to walk and i love jake joan hall um so like that direction all great points all right is that it alden doherty 494 thank you for chiming in love the podcast you three so shocked

i caught you guys live for at least a second there uh okay get ready because uh you're going to want to be very careful with your eyeballs as i finish this comment also coy and gregg Blink twice, if you liked, Superman. I don't even know from a lot of Blink about Untitled Film. We are under very, they're the craziest of... All I can say is they were very, very, very, very strict. Like, you can't even elude you have an opinion. It was the weirdest thing that they said.

And it's hard. It's especially hard when I see people who have a really big following doing videos where they're clearly sort of hinting at what they feel about. a movie, and they can get away with it. We can't, though. But, yeah, unfortunately, we can't, but I appreciate the super chat. I look forward to conversations. Yeah.

Noah Duncan, 4095 wants to enlighten you guys. This is going to be a good non-sequitur for the podcast. It's called Good Friday because while Christ's death was tragic and he was innocent, it provided salvation for those who repent. and believe. Do you guys care to fill the context in? In brief, there was a tangent earlier where I didn't understand that Mary and Mary were different Mary's.

And there was a brief conversation of religion and my lack of knowledge of it. And I was trying to understand Good Friday being called Good. Basically, I don't know a lot about religion and it was being explained to me. Thank you for the clarity on why that day is called Good Friday. I appreciate it. And the Super Chat. Hey, guys, I'm going to be doing an interview with someone. Brandon,

brandy want to pop in here really quick. This is a tease. We're doing a little previous. Just choose whichever mic you want and say hi. Brandon came bearing gifts. This is awesome. I got you. This is straight from the Superman junk.

Dude, this is so cool. Oh, shit. This is so cool. This is the raddest. Oh, shit. Have fun. He'll be back in this chair soon.

Oh, damn. This is so cool. I'm like so excited. You were just at the super. I don't yet. I haven't seen this yet. You were just at the Superband Junkett? I just came straight from it.

Oh, amazing. I literally saw you walk in, and I saw you, and then the word metropolis. I literally, like, I saw a person and Metropolis and went, and then I was like, oh, it's Brandon, and now it's my. Who'd you interview? James Gunn and then Rachel Brosnahan, um, favorite porn's white, Nicholas Holt together. Oh, it's amazing. Oh, four or one and three?

Got it, got it. So no one special? Yeah, you know, just a casual day at the office. Oh, that's dope, dude. That's special. That's a good day. I was a fan today. Yeah, you live. And now you're going to, then you're going to do some something really of quality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like what I, this is why today was circled on my calendar not. No, no. Yeah. That was breakfast. They planned the junking around this. Yeah, I'm really glad they got you warmed up. Thank you. We're going to wrap for these last. Thanks for this,

man. That's so dope, man. No, no, no. Don't be sorry. Please. You brought Metropolis to me. Grab snacks. In each office, there's drinks. Oh, yeah, grab whatever you want, man. There's drinks and food. Do whatever you want. All right, we got two more questions.

Cool. We got a super chat and a stream lab. The last super chat is from Michelle Cherie, 419. Just sending some love. Sorry, the stream isn't going according to plan or wasn't. Absolutely loving the pod lately and the discussions you guys have. Thank you. That was part of why I really was excited for a live stream because I personally,

this is my favorite thing, uh, we do here is the pod. And, and I love combining like real conversations you and I have with pop culture conversations. And I, and I was really excited about the third element of like bringing in people. Uh, so even through the super chat, I appreciate it. Cause this job, it's such a weird thing to be vulnerable online because online so tempestuous. But to do it then like to camera is crazy. So, uh, I really appreciate the support because this show means a lot to me. Yeah. I was looking forward to doing a different type of qualitative one too with the camera set up and also not have to normally when i'm leading a live i'm also like the comments and trying to guide and direct it and i'm feeling feedback all around

and i got multi and i was like oh it'd be nice to do one where i mainly just have to focus on the conversation occasionally check the live so we'll get there we'll get there we'll get there eventually but thank you though all right adventures in adventures in lorenland taking us home with a mightily generous stream lab comment here finally caudelize stream it's been forever why are we talking about the snider cut of the bible anyway super excited about the batman two love you guys uh again vamping for time trying to navigate i was learning and i had asked if there was like any spin-offs and um and yeah there was a little dabbling in that yeah and i grew up catholic and i you were giving me like data i didn't have i was giving you like

real actual like the the you can view it as lore or history whichever one you want and i was just trying to explain it all to Coley because I know the Jesus story pretty well. Yeah. And I and I don't. So it was like it was an interesting way to be like in between moments. So I love that like the super chats are equal part like comic thing and also Jesus. Because that's what the live stream devolved into while we're trying to get things working. Yeah, we'll get there. Fun to explain it to you though. Yeah. I enjoyed it. I learned some stuff. I didn't know today. Like there's two mary's. Dude, two mary's feels like such an important like I yeah. I like one day I'll know one day. Anyway, thank you guys for your super chats and stream labs.

That contribution means a lot. Thanks, Koi, for all the readjusting we had to do today. Thanks, John, for all your hard work and hard effort. We will try to do a live when we get some things sorted out. We've got a 25th episode coming up. That's also a big number. Still enjoyed our conversation. Oh, 100%.

This was a blast. I'm in a better mood now. Yeah, me too. I'm just starving now. But thank you, guys. We'll see you soon. Thank you.