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All right, I'm heading Go Live, and I'm going to switch this headset.
out because it's busted out. No, I like
all the feedback. Yeah,
add some life to it.
He's in my toes.
We're not fully live.
Are we live? I'm going to ask
the chat, because I've been interacting with the chat
before we went live.
What's that? Which story should we kick off with
first?
Greetings.
John Campia intro. I'm Greg,
and this is Aaron Alexander.
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he's kind of the worst
that guy doesn't
ever give me the credit
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you know when I found koi
he was in a crack house several years ago
snorting off many prostitutes
that I bought him so that way he could
you know get a little bit of downtime the one on Wilshire
yeah you been yeah dude a few times yeah that's a great spot
I like to watch life there sometimes yeah I've never actually
participate I'm a little scared of the germs no it's come on you got to live a little
but Coy's definitely got something and then once he gave it to his fiance
he had to put a ring on it you know so he was like all right
Anyway, that's beside the point.
I'm happy you're here, Aaron.
We got some news that we're going to talk about today.
And let me say, hey, guys, hello, everyone in the chat right now.
I'm seeing Stephanie, Regine, Liam.
We got Maria from Italy, Italian, and Andrew Pollock.
Start with the Batman Part 2 news.
Okay, that'll be the first one we start with.
So today, we got some actual things that Matt Reeves finally said about Batman Part 2.
And there have been some crazy.
weird rumors.
I don't,
I would have
them leaks
because I don't know
how they would have these links.
They sound,
they sound like
just weird rumors that,
that there's,
there's,
what I like about these rumors
that I was like,
I can see how there's
some believability
if it were to come true.
And I've been having fun
speculating about doomsday.
Okay.
Do you have,
we never talk about
Avengers Doomsday.
We don't.
No,
it's forbidden in the office.
We can't,
we can't talk about things
that are rumor related.
But,
um,
no.
I'm good.
That's Koi's fault.
Yep.
Doomsday in particular, I'm looking forward to it.
I think it's going to be fun.
I saw that picture that came out recently that was like from
Exxon Expo in China of Dr. Doom.
It looks pretty cool.
I'm like, that's Dr. Doom.
He looks.
That is his outfit.
That's what it works like.
But I like the patterning they have, like the how he has his, the orbs right here,
like the circles.
And then like there's some sort of like pattern on the chest area that looks really cool.
And I'm like, all right, I know everybody, there's a lot of people that are upset that R.DJ is doing it.
But I'm like, if they're faithful to the guy, I don't know if there's some sort of narrative reason they can justify it.
But if they do the character justice and like he is that powerful sort of, I don't know, tech slash magic powerful guy, I think.
It should be pretty good.
Hopefully.
Granted, we don't have a lot of setup going into it.
So I don't know.
We have a lot of characters that have an intercrossed.
before, but I'm optimistic.
Did you have any feelings about that
picture that came out? Wow. Clearly
you don't listen to this live stream. We talked
about it for like 25 minutes last week.
I'm not going to repeat myself.
It looks fine.
Yeah. That's cool.
It'll be cool. Yeah. I'm excited.
I think once I see everyone
on screen, I do
I am a two-time
viewer kind of guy.
I do get washed over
and suckered by
cameos. It works on me. I'm part of the problem. And I'm going to try to like not have that
happen to me when I watch this movie. I'm really going to try. But I'm also like, well, you know,
it's kind of the fun though, right? We give a cameo experience. It's letting yourself get lost and like,
holy shit, there's like Magneto again. And there's Cyclops. Like that's part of the fun.
It was usually the second viewing. That's the thing. It's like a lot of times the second viewings.
It goes down for me significantly. Did that happen with Deadpool Moverrain?
Yeah, I did.
Like, I didn't like it anywhere near as much.
Same.
Like, I loved it the first time.
And then the second time, and it wasn't, like, other people's opinions.
As I saw it relatively close back to back.
I saw a press screening, and then I went, like, the opening day.
So I didn't take any ones of opinions in.
And I really, I still like the movie a lot, but I was like, yeah, it's definitely, I see some of the more of the flaws.
You know?
I guess that's the thing is that we could use more MCU movies with, like, repeat value that beyond Easter eggs that we catch.
Yeah, I feel like, I don't know, there's some directors in there that do that.
You know, I feel like in the game, Infinity War has repeat value.
Yeah.
Black Panther has repeat value for me.
Of course.
Come on, let's go.
Yeah, there's a lot in there, but, you know, I feel like the novelty of some of these bigger events does sort of wear off after that first viewing, because they designed it for that.
Like, if you watch No Way Home at home, we're all the big pop you're supposed to do.
It's just an awkward pause of Andrew Garfield being there.
I'm like, this doesn't hit the same.
Yeah.
But, you know, yeah, screw it.
I think it's designed for that first time viewing.
Yeah, 100%.
I guess it depends on what merit you want to put a movie at.
I don't know.
I think Iron Man has a great repeat value.
I think that's like a great movie.
Everyone's shouting Winter Soldier in the comments.
Anyway, in the comments, I see that several of you guys gave supertats early.
Thank you so much.
We do not end a live stream without going through.
every single stream lab and or super chat.
Thank you for supporting us.
You might have seen a lot of YouTube videos as of late.
A lot of YouTubers who don't even usually do videos about, you know,
is YouTube dying?
Is there something wrong with the algorithm?
A lot of YouTubers are now doing it because there is something weird happening.
And we see it in our analytics.
Like our analytics like shot down.
Everything's like a big down symbol in the past month drastically.
Oh, wow.
And it's, I was happy to, not happy, but I was, I felt not alone because so much of running a YouTube channel is constantly having to pay attention to what's changing in YouTube because YouTube's not great at giving announcements or messages.
And oftentimes I might give an announcement, but there's not real clarity on how to then move forward and adjust.
So it takes a lot of paying attention going through some failures and figuring it out of how to get back into the upswing of things.
And like we're doing fine, we're fine right now, but there is that feeling that kicks in that a lot of other people have expressed that I was definitely going through this past few weeks.
You might see me looking really down at some videos is, is, um, is, um, is, is like, wow, is there something we're doing?
Is there something wrong with the people not care about us anymore?
And da, da, da, da, and then we start seeing it across the board and other YouTubers who are bigger than us who are also feeling it and having that same type of process, it, uh, yeah, it does.
But thanks for the Super Chats.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And anyway, we're going to go through them in a bit.
And before we started going through the Super Chats, let's talk about the Batman part
two.
You want to get into it, Aaron?
Yeah, I'm down.
You want to do it?
Let's do it, baby.
Did you love the Batman?
I loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
Yeah, I prepped with watching every single Batman movie in the live, that was live action
prior to it coming out.
And it lived up and surpassed every expectation I had.
a movie that has great repeat value yeah yeah yeah three times in the theaters yeah yeah yeah
somewhere around there as well um and yeah it's just it's a more than a batman movie it's like film
you know like it's the way that it's constructed the visuals or the story unfold it's just a beautiful
experience and i'm really excited for the second one like honest i know matt ruse took forever to try to get
his uh the script in order plus i know he's going through some personal stuff as well on top of that but
I'm happy that we're finally getting that sequel because I feel like he is one of the few directors
that values Bruce Wayne and Batman as a character as priority, which, you know, I know we're
going to get into it, but I'm really excited for whatever that is, you know, he has some interesting
comments that I'm sure we're going to get into. But yeah, I really trust Matt Reeves as a creative.
Me too. All very valid points, my friend. So here's some quotes that he gave.
We began, he did an interview with Josh Horowitz on the red carpet.
We began the process of doing this.
Let me start this again.
I fucked up already, guys.
Sorry.
Damn it.
We began the process of this by doing another deep dive into the comics, picking the right villain that digs into Bruce Wayne's past and his life.
That was what drove that discussion.
I won't tell you where we ended up, but we're super excited about it.
And I will say it's never really been done in a movie before, so we're excited.
and one of the explorations for me
was to do something that pushes even further
into the character of Bruce Wayne
because the first story is so much about the Batman.
I never wanted to lose Rob at the center of these stories
because he's talked extensively about how usually the Batman film trajectory
is first one's about Batman
and the rest become about the Rogues Gallery
and he wants to keep it very focused on Batman.
We are now in prep.
It's really exciting.
They're going to start shooting in April or end of April
beginning of May
and when it came out
to the you know the villain side of things he said he said something like like how it's never been
done before like so some people are taking that to mean does that mean never been done before
as in this villain's ever been in the movies or is this kind of like how the riddler was never
done before in the live action you know people had known like the tv show and jim carey but then
you got paul dano who's a very different was he more implying that because with the way the
batman is set up i think there's a lot of room for different villains that they could
do if we're if he just means it's never been done before like how he's comparing it to the riddler
and i'd be rich chat i'd be really curious to know john take tallies of what people are saying
what are you saying guys what villain do you think it could be because i love the idea that it's
imbued and how it's going to reflect bruce wayan batman the way how that happened with um with
the riddle in the first one two face could be if we're bringing back a returning a villain who's
already been done before two face very well could be one you know like we haven't had one where it's
just harvey dent two face and watching him be like the batman forever just hops right into he's a
joker copy right and then um dark night he becomes two face at the like the finale of the movie
and he doesn't get to live them the underground mob life so i think the idea of like the good
being corrupted, being a part of that story for the sequel could actually work if they were to do
two-face. I know it's not a thing that people are thinking about. I have other ones in mind that
have never been brought to screen, a couple of obvious ones, maybe obvious, but who do you think?
Who first comes to mind for you when it comes to this villain? Well, I want to take him at face value,
make it probably something a little bit more literal in the sense that not an interpretation
that we've seen before, but more so just the villain that we've never seen before.
Because you can say that with any interpretation, like, oh, yeah, this is a version we've
never really seen before.
You can say that with every version of the Joker that's been on screen.
It's a new iteration of the Joker, which, you know, is true.
All of them are very unique from one another.
So I want to feel like Matt Reeves has something really creative and unique in mind.
when it comes to something that is relevant to Bruce Wayne
and Batman's arc as a character,
but also something that serves the story
in elevating the narrative that is the Gotham Crime Saga.
So, I don't know, court of it always seems interesting
because they're doing this conspiratorial thing
of what's happening with the legacy of the Wains
and what's happening with the legacy of, you know,
how they influenced Gotham.
So maybe, you know, I know that's a take
that's kind of been circulating already.
but I don't know I think there's some merit there if we want to go the serial killer route again and how that ties into it
because I have to imagine Matt Reeves is smart enough to want to advance the story of what we've continued but not have it feel similar in the sense that oh it's another sort of conspiracy in the same type of way I would hope that this is more personal for Batman and hope it's more personal for Bruce directly in the sense that he is
is going to be challenged from not only his past, but from his present.
Maybe he's asked to be more of a public figure, and maybe he's asked to be just more.
Maybe there comes this conflict between his time as Batman, his time as being this public
face of Gotham, because at the end of the movie, he realizes that he wants to be a hero, not just
this guy of punishment and what does that look like in the face of the new state of Gotham.
So whatever villain that we have, I would hope would reflect that builds upon the promise
that Matt Reeves kind of set up within the last film.
I don't know if maybe Harvey Dent could do that.
Like, again, I don't think that we're going to get a third interpretation of the same villain.
I would hope that he'd change it up because Batman has an extensive rogues gallery.
like um i don't know you read more comics in myself these days who's the dude with the pig mask
professor pig professor freaking pig maybe professor pig the reason i don't opt for professor pig
even though i think he would actually work really well in the batman universe is that he come
i believe he was um i don't know if he was introduced in this one but he's a he's definitely
like a real character in the grant morrison run of batman which is what the dc you
you version is apparently
going to be mainly adapting
and taking inspiration from
and considering that Supergirl is
taking direct inspiration from
one very specific comic
I feel like they would probably
maybe want to reserve
professor like a villain who was like
a big part of that Grant Morrison
that's the only reason why
but they did Professor Pig in the Gotham show
and it was actually pretty cool when he was
there it was really creepy
I think it could work.
I mean, Court of Owls makes a lot of sense.
I think Court of Owls should be a thing that they're setting up because it's so big.
It's like the secret society that's been controlling Gotham for hundreds of years.
There is, you know, Wayne lineage conspiracy to it.
I read it a while ago.
Like, I actually got the whole copy, the Scott Snyder one from when I was in New York.
I got the whole comic.
And, yeah, like, I don't want to spoil everything, but it's pretty big deal.
And there's, like, one character who claims to be, like, Bruce's Long Lost Brother.
And there's stuff that's linked to Dick Grayson as well.
So there's definitely a way they could do that.
And I like their assassins.
The assassins are talons.
They're called Talons, and they're, like, resurrected people.
So I don't know how
You know
How Matt Reeves would be willing to go
Supernatural
I don't know if he'd be willing
I feel like he'd be willing to go
A little science fiction
But I don't know if he'd be supernatural
I feel like supernatural will be DCU
Yeah I feel like he's trying to keep it more grounded
At least that's the vibe I got off of the
The last one
Because I feel like the more grounded
You keep it here
The more the DCU's able to do
The fantastical aspects
The fantastical aspect of Batman
Yeah
but I don't know
what about hush
do you think hush should be interesting to do
well I like the idea of hush
because with hush also links to riddler
and if you've read the comics
you watch the animated movie john
they like they change who hush is in that right
it's not
yeah it's not who it is
it's not like they changed the villain reveal
I know that upset you
I don't think I saw that there is an alteration there yeah
okay
so i mean if they're doing like a specific trilogy and it somehow still links to riddler i think that
would be a really cool like payoff but at the same time part of what made the hush comic work so
well is the plethora of other batman villains already established because what hush really
does is to my recollection what he does is he he manipulates a lot of the rogues gallery
in order to get after batman and but the part of hush that i really like
liked, which I feel like can really influence Bruce Wayne, or not influence, but affect Bruce Wayne.
One of my favorite moments in The Batman is when he is beating that one henchman and he looks
like he's like about to murder him, right? And I don't feel like the movie, you know, they talk
about it in the Dark Night trilogy about like, don't kill. And but to have it be like a real
permeating thing that he's tempted by, almost to like Daredevil lengths, what that the show does
where he's really in conflict
of like, should I kill Kingpin or not
for like all of season three?
I would love to see that happen
and he almost murders the Joker in the hush comic
and Gordon has to stop him.
He literally points a gun at him to stop him.
And so I like the idea of if he ends off
saying I have to be a hero,
but he's now being thrusted into a position
where he has, where he feels like
he has no other choice but to go back on that
and he's becoming even more villainous
because of the villain that he's up against.
So, you know, when people were watching the trailer
for the Batman, they were thinking that maybe the villain
might be actually hushed due to its connection to Riddler.
But the reason the hush comic, I think, was a big thing
because, like, hush is not in it for a lot of it.
Most of it is, like, other characters.
So there's a way to do it,
and there is, like, a personal linkage to Bruce Wayne and Thomas Wayne.
There's a character in there named Thomas Elliott.
it, but I guess if they were to go with like a very specific villain, I mean, you know, sending
up cord of owls would be cool.
I've heard black masks thrown around kind of a lot, even though he was in birds of prey.
Different universe.
Different universe, not the most accurate version, but I don't know.
That's just kind of where I'm at.
John, what are people in the chat saying?
Yeah, we've got a number of responses here.
Sorry, I've grabbed another bum headset.
Hush and Hugo Stranger, the two most.
name checked in this.
Oh,
little strange will be cool.
Followed by the court of owls after that.
We have had some people just throw out there,
both Victor Zaz and Black Mask,
as well as freeze,
man bat,
bat mite, poison ivy,
calendar man,
Two-Face, and Fantasm.
If they did
Fantasim in live action,
that's pretty cool.
And we don't really see Batman contend
with an actual like female
villain he has to go up against that is true yeah i mean him and catwoman don't really fight i mean
they have like a mini thing but yeah that would be cool and the only interpretation
adapted outside of the animated one did they ever bring phantasm to the comics was that ever
i'm sure they did i i actually don't i've never read a comic where phantasm came in but i'm sure
phantasm did that the movie is just so big yeah movies iconic but granted that's been adapted as well
technically but yeah there's a lot of villains out there that could be cool like hugo strange would
be really interesting kind of getting to the psychology of batman um we've seen poison ivy already
um yeah there i don't know there's there's some some cool ones on the table there we've obviously
had mr freeze and a lot of people want to mr freeze but don't think that's going to be likely
because he has been very famously adapted before so give me man bat man bat we're a
trip I could for sure
see that but
no I couldn't actually that's not sure
maybe for the DCU but not
not in Matt Reeves I feel like that would be just
a too big of a gap for reality
that we've established Hugo Strange
would be a great one
they wanted to do the Arkham Asylum show
at some point the Penguin does
spend more time in Arkham
and not that Hugo Strange
would be solely beholden to
Arkham Asylum but
if we're talking about the psychological
deprivation of what they can do to go after Bruce Wayne and oftentimes Hugo Strange is able to
unpack Batman's true identity so he could work against him in some way. I feel like Hugo Strange
personally I don't for some reason I don't feel like it'll be Hugo Strange but personally that would
be the one I would want most because of the pure psychological manipulation nature of that
to be able to go into Bruce Wayne's psychosis more.
And for Matt Reeves saying he wants to be more focused on Batman Bruce Wayne
and unpack that some more,
Hugo Strange is the one who would be the most character-driven, interesting to me.
But I don't know how well it would serve.
I guess I'm having a hard time seeing how well it would keep up with the,
but servicing the themes of like the noir corruption underbelly of Gotham
because it feels like it's a little bit of a different.
type of movie they would tell
if it was that
yeah it would be like nightmarish
almost like I would kind of put like scarecrow
and Hugo Strange a little bit in a similar
camp I'm surprised those two haven't been
leaked together on film before
I don't know I've made it a physical foe
I don't know someone that challenges Batman physically
and mentally but I don't know if he has a ton
of those really
Bain
that's the biggest one but that's also been famously
adapted twice as well they gotta do something
with the Joker the Joker's in here
Yeah, you know, like they haven't done anything with the...
I thought, like, a cool thing they could maybe do if they had Fantasm is, like, Joker breaks out,
which makes phantasm come out of the shadows, because Fantasms' whole origin is linked to Joker killing her dad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think that would be, like, a cool way to...
So that way, like, Andrea Beaumont comes back and it's a former lover, Bruce's past.
They could do, like, a lot.
That would still make it personal for Bruce Wayne Batman, yeah.
Because there is a history there with this version of the Joker.
Did they, I don't know if they explicitly said that in the film,
but I know in the DC, in the deleted scenes,
that it was something that they did where they had that scene together.
That's a great scene.
It's like very signs of the lambs, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I know that did they say that they had a scene
or that they had a history together in the movie itself?
I mean, it's very, very obvious from the deleted scene that they did.
And I think they released that scene.
before even the release of the
they released the scene
pretty close to while the movie
I think was in the theaters
and so I think that was to say
that yeah we
this is a part of our narrative
I think that's why they put that out there
just to let people know or they just felt bad
that they cut out a very famous actor's big Joker scene
how did you feel about that scene
the deleted scene
the deleted scene and Barry Kugin as Joker
I thought he was great
I think that works
That's a perfect type of Joker that they did for the Batman.
I thought it was really sinister.
Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
I think he's a great actor, and I'm curious to see how they elevate that.
I like Matt Reeves' reasoning for why he was that way.
He liked some sort of like skin disease or something.
Skin disease.
Skin disease.
Skin disease.
Skin disease.
Skin disease.
Did I hope skin disease loud enough into the microphone?
Skin disease?
You never know what kind of vibe you're going to get with this live stream.
Last week was so goofy.
now we're so like pontificating
about the seriousness contemplation
of Batman's true nature and what villain
could best mirror him. Maybe it'll be Batmite
who knows. Yeah. I'm down for Batman.
Yeah,
I'm talking for some Batman. That'd be fun.
You know what's funny is Hush would
work if you did it like five movies
in and thought Paul De, if you chose
the animated movies changes to the
ending, you can do a lot of fun stuff with that
and Paul Dano.
Yeah, that's true.
You guys should read Huffman.
Hush.
Hush is a great comic.
Hush is a definitive comic.
But yeah, thanks for tuning in for that.
What do you guys think?
Engagement questions that you asked YouTube audiences say things like this.
Come up with a more unique question to ask them.
Unique question to ask the audience.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not just leave us your thoughts below.
Type it in.
It would make us feel good if you typed it in.
I realize I need to magnify this.
social relationship what's your what's your what's your favorite breakfast item guys dude my dream
can i tell you my literal is so sad my life is my actual fantasy
is to stay at a hotel like the marion okay like a place known for great breakfast buffet yeah wake up
because i don't like smoking weed as much as i used to if i do it's like a little bit maybe once a week
maybe even sometimes
I sometimes go several weeks now without doing it
but my dream is to stay at a hotel
wake up
wake and bake it like super high
pig out at the buffet
then go right back to bed
those are my ambitions
that's a dream you deserve that
that's all I kid you
I think about this week
it's really sad
You just go around the corner
You don't even like need to go somewhere far
I feel like I don't like a big breakfast
I crash
Do you do you not get tired after a huge breakfast
I get so tired if I eat like pancakes and shit
I do
Yeah I'll crash and maybe I'll take a nap
I don't know but yeah
I feel like that would mess you up though
Because yeah would
Yeah dude
I feel like you'd be in the bathroom a long time
But that's why I'm at a hotel
So you can go to the bathroom
Someone else will clean that
I don't worry about that shit, literally.
As someone who used to work at a hotel, I would take advantage of your services.
Oh, my God.
And the housekeepers would be like, what the, can I just cuss on here?
Is that a thing?
Or should I not do that?
Depends on the cuss word.
Don't be coy.
What is cool?
Oh, I know he said the C word one time.
Yeah, we don't say that.
Don't use any C words, basically.
Can I say the F word?
Can I say the F word?
It depends.
Not in a sexual context.
A segs-sual context.
You're like, what the fuck?
Okay, I can say that.
Fuck that toilet up.
Nah, that might, YouTube doesn't really filter.
They might think I'm trying to sleep with the toilet.
Up where?
Up where?
Show me your secret toilet spots.
Anyway.
Oh, that'd be fun.
Wow, some people really don't like this joker.
Yeah.
Do you have, what's your favorite breakfast food?
them. Let's read some super chats.
I love me some eggs. I'm a huge egghead.
Very simple, man. You're a simple man.
Eggs, omelets, you know, you know what's a unique one.
I like the pig in a blanket, the breakfast pig in a blanket, the Jimmy Dean one.
If you guys are eating that, let me know the comments or the soupers.
Yeah, that's a very specific thing that is not widely accessible.
But yeah, that's my favorite breakfast things.
Yeah.
Yeah, Johnny, what's your favorite breakfast?
I love anything that involves smoke salmon.
Give me like a smoke salmon Benedict or something like that.
You're a complicated man.
In Europe, I stay in Switzerland, their buffet, they put me up at a hotel just like years ago.
It's so fun to go to Switzerland with no money.
I don't know you went to Switzerland.
Yeah, I went for five days of the Zurich Phil Festival.
You can't do anything when you have literally no money.
So the, but the buffet, you take advantage of because there's a buffet anymore.
And yeah, every buffet apparently, like, they're known for having crazy buffets.
And every one of them had all different types of salmon.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, that sounds like my heaven because, like, you can do so much with it.
Yes.
I know you usually get that whenever I see, like, if we order from like a place that is bagels and stuff.
I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.
Because that's, too, that's the way, like a smoked salmon bagel, like a works bagel is a great way to have, like, this is a meal.
This is a breakfast, but I'm not going to feel like I love a pancake or a French toast or.
something like that, but you are going to feel like
Logie afterwards. So
like it's a way to have like, I feel like I'm having breakfast
or brunch, but it's fresh and at the light.
This conversation is good. It makes us more relatable.
It does. We eat food.
We're just like you. We eat food as well.
We need to have more of these.
More food. We're not going to read
so we have a few super chats and I want
to go, I want to acknowledge a few of them
like two to three and then we're
going to go into some Avengers Doomsday talk.
I like the speculation talk with you, Aaron.
Oh, it's fun.
John is trying to turn his camera on.
It's okay.
Put it on, boy.
John, can you pull up the first couple super chats?
I would like to acknowledge.
You betcha.
Let's get that page refreshed.
Get a little lemon drink in its hand.
Lemon.
Guys got to watch the happening.
All right.
Super chat time.
There's a couple of stories I also want to talk about that.
One involves Timothy Chalbome.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I've not heard about this.
It's game paid a shit.
a ton of money for some movie and I'm like
isn't this really a smart move
always really on his
behalf or is the studios the studio's paying like
like like insane
a franchise thing no that's a weird thing
what the hell yeah anyway
it's a shot
Sebastian
we leave with comic book stories
and then we slowly integrate other stories
oh yeah
Sebastian yunce says this
and thank you, Sebastian, for chiming in.
You guys are my favorite, you guys are my family, in a way, heart emoji.
Oh, shucks, dude.
I am unaware or can't remember how the rest of the family joined the channel.
How did the team join this magnificent family that I've grown to love so much?
Well, I mentioned the top.
I was in a crack house.
Yep.
And he was a heroin addict.
Found him there.
My cousin goes there, too.
Aaron's cousin goes there.
That's how I found Aaron.
Yep.
The crack epidemic did a lot for this.
channel. He caught me mid snort. The super short version is that, okay, let's go through them
one at a time. I hit up John about, let's do a channel called Stoner Reviews, and that was a no-go,
but we both like the devil's rejects. I say, well, my God, so it's real rejects. And yeah,
that's a whole story. We're doing this other podcast called, I know we do one called, this one's
called Real Rejects Diaries, and it's been, it's John and I. And we,
really are like going through the past you know how like tv shows now i think about what i'm saying
out loud you know tv shows will do like a recap yeah you know when these actors who seemingly
don't do as many movies for shows now just revisit their prior show it's great business man
you make a shit ton of money people love nostalgia they do like those office girls like it's great
you know and then they get the cast to come on you know it's it's awesome like i think when friends
does it that's going to be massive that's going to be huge love i i think i feel like
Courtney Cox and Lisa Kudra are gearing up to do that.
That's just my theory.
But anyway, that's kind of what John are doing.
We're nipping in the bud down.
And we're going to re-watch every video that we've done.
Yeah, yeah, you'll start from the beginning.
With a guest.
Coy and I met, yeah, if you can say, Coen and I met,
I mean, John and I were, like, kind of talk to him in passing at movie fights,
screen junkies, and Shmowdown, primarily Schmodown is where we got to know him.
Aaron and I, we met at the Killing Joke screening.
and then like a year later
or something you came to our first ever live event
and I thought you were super nice
so I went to your poetry event
and then eventually he came on
and Andrew I met at a party
he was really drunk and he rambled about Batman a lot
Was he really drunk?
Yeah, he was really drunk
and he remembered a lot about Batman
and Tara I met
because there was a girl named Amy
who I was friends with
and I saw she was friends with this
random person named Tara, and at that time, Greg got people to come on the channel and ways that I'm still surprised that people said yes to all the time.
This is just how it worked back then on YouTube.
You just, like, you filmed out of your home, and you invited people to come to your home.
And that's how most...
I don't know it was like that for a long time until recently.
A gazillion guests that would come on here was just that.
Like, they don't know who I am, and they're just coming over to my home now.
And they're going to be alone with me filming YouTube videos.
I hope they trust me to do this.
So, yeah, that's how I met Tara, and we stayed in touch the whole time.
And Roxy met up, like, randomly a bunch at Screen Junkies and Collider,
and then eventually asked her to come on here.
So here we are.
Here we are.
Now we're a band of fools watching movies for a living.
I regret every decision.
I regret it all.
It's a lot of stress, and everyone pisses me off every single moment of every day.
Even looking at you right now, Aaron, I can't even do it.
Pins and needles.
I don't want to look at you.
And then that's another one we got.
No, they're all great.
They're all amazing people.
They all need words of affirmation, apparently.
Love me.
Kyle Hoggard, thank you for chiming into the chat.
Hi, Greg.
Not Aaron, though.
Thank you, Christ.
Got a question that I really hope isn't personal or sensitive.
Just noticed an old video is you introduced yourself as Ryan?
Backstory to that?
Yeah, I didn't want to put my real name out there,
So I came up with an alter ego that I really embraced.
And I went hardcore with it.
And that, and, you know, part of like what I would, I want to do another episode of the Real Rejects Diaries, or John.
And I wanted to talk a little bit more, I did a whole thing where we talked about it for like an hour, but I wanted to talk a little more extensively about it because I realized that's where a lot of uncomfortableness for me comes in the form of being a quote unquote, influence.
or because I fear a lot of the the dangers that can come to one's own self-being when they take
advantage of what can very much be a parasocial relationship, you know, and like certain ways to
In what way?
Gosh, you know, like I have made some decisions that with weaponizing audience back then
that I really like I yes I was like very crude humor and the whole thing was like you know to to be like a satirical
like a side of myself that I grew up like very in a religious family and then I was another like network marketing cult that was very much about don't be yourself and so a big part of that was embracing all the things that I was sort of pushing down and and I was transferring into humor and my commentary and stuff but then you know there was like decisions that I made that were really I don't feel like um
were the healthiest for me that I will dive into with John but you know and a lot of times that was
some of the most fun of the channel honestly just because I was able to say and do whatever the hell
I want and and uh but it was it made personal life very very hard um truth be told it was a really
weird time I didn't like going places with people thinking this is how I am all the time or
something like the you know when like the there's like the stand-up comedy person and then there's
them when they're not on stage and like to me that was what i was doing was like that was me when
the camera was on and then learning to just be myself was like how do i be as most just me and not
feel like i have to be on do an act or a trigger act or being on but also i kind of have to be
on because i'm on camera so yeah i'm constantly in my head of two things anyway it's like a tricky
balance so that's the next question not so personal okay we get another like i'll answer personal
about questions, but I want to talk about Doomsday.
Generic-ass question coming up.
That way we get Aaron talking about it.
God damn. Thank you, though, for the questions.
Mustafa Job, thank you for jumping into the chat once again.
Who would you want to be in a Marvel movie directed by Tim Burton?
Ooh, cool question.
My pick would be Moon Knight.
Do you have one that comes to mine, Aaron?
For Tim Burton in particular?
Yeah.
I mean, the Moon Night pick is pretty amazing pick.
That would be fun.
Who is one that would be like so, a Marvel character?
That would be such a quirky, like, dark, pale take of the night.
It's really hard to top Moon Knight.
That's tough.
I feel like a perfect fic.
If they did a film feature-length sequel to a Werewolf by Night, that'd be fun.
Oh my God, yeah.
I can't top that answer.
I feel like great at that.
Yeah, that's a great answer.
That's probably the perfect answer, actually.
That's the closest thing that feels Tim Burton-E in recent memory.
Well, yeah, I don't know if there's a lot of gothic characters to come to mind
because I associate him with like a gothic aesthetic or like hyper goofy.
Like, I don't know, there's like there's gothic and then there's Alice in Wonderland
and that wasn't necessarily got me.
There's him making money and then there's him doing what he likes to actually do.
Hear me out.
I think a Tim Burton Hulk movie would be.
be really cool.
Like practical?
Yeah.
And like...
Playbacian.
You know.
Play by Michael Keaton.
Make it like a werewolf kind of thing.
Or man thing, which is not all together different from Swamp Thing, but I feel like
that would be a solid one.
I think you make a great swamp thing.
Yeah.
Personally, I think a Swamp Thing would be pretty awesome.
Yeah.
Tim Burton's Blade.
Or Ghost Rider.
Yeah, Ghost Rider was another one that I had in mind.
That would be fun.
Oh, no, I think it's a swamp thing would be perfect, wouldn't it?
Yeah, because it's like, yeah, a misunderstood beast that, you know, wants to do good for, you know, planet Earth.
He likes his classic universal monsters and swamping kind of fits perfectly into that category.
Yeah, totally.
That's why Where We'll Find Knight is a great call.
Yeah.
I think a Tim, Tim Burton, Dr. Stranger, would be interesting.
I'd be curious.
I'd be down for that.
I'd be curious to see what I look like.
Yeah.
It'd be really weird.
Have some weird visuals, him fighting some claymation monster.
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Dude.
Clay universe.
Thank you.
We're going to go back into these super chats very soon.
But let's talk about some Avengers Dune's things stuff.
Yeah.
You ready to do it?
It's rock.
Have you heard any of these rumors that I have put in the title of this video?
I have not.
Okay.
So this rumor I've just seen on every freaking outlet that, like, talks about Marvel.
It is, it's kind of a, it's a weird one to me.
And it mainly came from this source, the, the cause.
McSercis.
The basic idea is that they'd be getting a Wanda Maximoff from the X-Men universe.
Oh, interesting.
In Avengers Doomsday.
And the main theory is that it would be Magneto ruling Genosha, as he had always pictured
it, just like an X in the Dark Phoenix movie.
And they have like a royal family type of situation with Eric.
Pietro, Wanda, and Polaris.
Polaris is also Magneto's daughter.
She has magnetic powers and shit.
So essentially it would be, you know, Scarlet Witch,
Quicksilver.
Plaris is, she's like green, right?
She has a green hair mutant lady.
And, yeah, I don't know if, uh, so, so I heard,
I heard Robert Meyer Burnett pitch this that he thinks it should,
that if they do a Wanda,
that it shouldn't be played by Elizabeth Olson,
that it should be someone else.
Because if it's in the X-Men universe,
the same way how they had like a different person
playing Quicksilver,
they should have like a different person playing Wanda.
I don't want to know why.
What would be the point?
Like I think it'd be cool, you know,
I feel like kind of like the fan servicey Easter egg thing.
Like, oh, like the comic accurate thing.
But I feel like I'd want some sort of narrative reasoning for why that would be the case.
Because I imagine it seems like we're going to multiple universes all fighting Doom.
And I feel like Wanda in and of herself is such a large threat or such a large being that I don't know.
Nothing would take away, but I don't know.
I'd want it to be narratively justified because we're already going to have someone like Century in this movie.
So I'm like, okay, we have a Century and a Wanda.
Are they just utilized to showcase how powerful Dr. Doom is?
if that's the case and okay cool um but yeah i think it's it's interesting but i would want to
know why they're doing it per se i don't know how do you feel about it that's one of those things
that we were talking about the top of this the first time i watch it i'll be like wow that's so
cool look at that they did it he's ruling ganosha hell yeah and there's a new one i'd be tripping
and he's like oh they got freaking um ralph boner back what's the heaven peters they got they got
Evan Peters back to be
Quicksilver and they cast someone
to be Polaris. You know, like that
would be awesome to see the first go
around. But then if I
watch it a second time, I'd be like,
this seems like this should have been a TV show.
This all sounds like a TV show.
You know, when you
implement like some type of crazy world
building like that, I think it's a
great first visual and it's an
exciting thing for comic fans and
maybe some way to cap off
what happened with Magneto in the
X-Men franchise since they're bringing back
E. McEllen. But
I don't know. I mean, I think all
of us want Scarlet Witch to come back.
I feel like she will come back.
And I don't know
if it would be this. I don't know
if I want it to be this. I wanted to address this
one because I think it's a little far-fetched.
I guess it would be cool.
But I wouldn't want her to come back as a variant.
I would just want Scarlet Witch to come back.
Why not just bring Scarlet Witch back?
As you're telling me that, it sounds like, oh,
that's cool. Not like, holy shit.
that sounds that's incredible like that blows my mind it won't blow like the average audience members
mind exactly so unless it has some narrative purpose for why they're doing it it doesn't really
i don't know justify it doesn't it sounds cool in concept but doesn't really excite me all that much
yeah if it's if it's you know wanda max off that we know from the mc u or elizabeth olson some
alternate version of it cool but ultimately i'm like all right that'd be cool i mean and granted
unless i got some really dope actors to play her which i couldn't think of another
actress who would play Wanda or could play Wanda out the top of my head but um yeah it's it's okay
city Sweeney yeah yep everybody's favorite actress right now I think a variant Wanda would
kind of just have the multiverse of madness effect where someone doesn't get to actually
imbue the character it doesn't get to embody the character they would just be Wanda by you know
in leather by a freaking name only and posturing you know yeah that well
they're on a set with actors they don't know who they're interacting with you know
because her depths is what makes her interesting the fact not the fact that she's
some this person that has power but the fact that she's someone who's had loss and
she has like these mental issues and she wants to have a better sense of a life so if we're
just seeing her not only not the one we're not invested in but it's just someone else
you're like okay why do I care if it's it's one thing if it's like a legacy actor
returning to play it but if it's some brand new actors are being introduced to it
it doesn't really do anything for me
I feel like it undercuts to the possibility
of just doing this in the X-Men movies eventually
Yeah
Like just go just eventually go there
Exactly like why do
If we're the whole
If the whole point of this
Is to have it start a new universe
Why introduce her in this movie
If we're just going to get the full
Yeah X-Men and some other film
Yeah because I think a lot of these characters
Just gonna be like randomly getting killed off
Like what happened in Multiverse of Madness
but in higher numbers is what it seems like they'll be doing.
Doom needs some cannon fodder.
Yeah.
You show how strong he is,
but killing off the people you love.
Yeah.
Bring back actors just to wipe them out.
Yeah,
that's just kind of,
I think it's a weird thing.
But, you know,
while we're on this topic of Avengers at Doom's Day,
did you hear about Daredevil season three already being Green Lake?
I did.
Yeah, I did see that.
I'm like, all right, cool.
But this is surprising because I could have sworn I saw Charlie Cox say that they were done with Daredewell after season two.
He misspoke and he got reprimanded.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, I really liked season one.
I didn't love it as much as the first three seasons, but I'm very confused about where Daredevil plays into the place of the MCU and everything happening, especially with Spider-Man coming out and Punisher being in that.
I was like, are these things actually connected?
Because what's happening with this seemed pretty big.
for things not to be affected in New York.
And if, and Figey has also said that secret wars is supposed to be like a sort of a reset in a way.
Yeah.
You know, and it should kind of change a trajectory of things.
Yeah.
Wouldn't that, I feel like it would affect the world and some, granted, we have no real idea of what that actually means.
We just don't have a lot of theories.
But I feel like whatever they're doing to change the world would affect whatever world they're
Devils living in at that time.
I think the thing that's that most boggled my
mind about that is like that's
really cool. Like I'm down for more
Derek level. Sure.
What surprised me is how
we've had so many Marvel television characters
introduced and
like there's no season twos
of so many of them. Like Moon Night
was brought up earlier. Moon Night was clearly
set up for a season two and I'm so
excited at the prospect of that. They got
fucking Oscar Isaac.
Yeah. And they're not doing that. Hockai season
to you they were trying to make, but they didn't
want to pay Jeremy Renner the same
salary, so that was like pushed to
the side. Supposedly, that's the only
reason why. Well, didn't they say they were trying to do that?
Like, they worked out those money issues. I guess when I saw
that somewhere. I have no idea, but there's my
point. They've done so many freaking shows,
but they don't continue them.
But with Daredevil, this random
show that got brought back.
And they're like, we're going to do so
many seasons of this show. We're going to start shooting
them right away. But these other
things that we have set up for our audience,
No, we're not going to do.
For sure, Shee Hulk season two was happening, though.
That is a hundred percent happening.
Only topped by Iron Heart.
Yeah.
Tatia Maslani today was telling people that they should double down on their Disney price and get Hulu twice.
Did you hear that?
No, does she really say that?
Yeah, she is like a full champion of Disney right now.
Oh, wow.
She really wants that show.
She doesn't want that season two.
She's kissing Disney's ass.
That's at least what I heard.
Justice for She-Hull.
what anybody else heard that's what i heard no it's the it's the exact opposite she's telling everyone
to cancel their disney plus subscriptions and hulu subscriptions she's really anti-disney right now oh really
yeah so that shit ain't happening yikes there's no snow white too and there's no she holker too
happening why she's saying that because of you know something to do with a talk show host oh
this is recent she recently said this yeah yeah i don't know never heard about that yeah i don't know what
was like i don't really follow talk show hosts i miss the news i only hear about rumors about
avengers doomsday anything else whoo comic book tunnel vision baby yeah i curate my algorithm
to specifically avoid anything else but i will say going back to a daredevil it is
interesting that it's getting a season three already greenly because if i remember correctly
it like did really low in the nilsen ratings or like um yeah like viewership was really down
from comparison to like something like agatha all along look the reality that everyone needs to
attend with is in streaming everything is doing terrible except k-pop demon hunters that's the
only thing that is doing well everything else awful terrible numbers boo yeah because yeah i know
wednesday went down with season two um i don't think i don't know if alien earth is is doing
super well which is a shame it's a great freaking show you guys definitely watch it if you're not um
But yeah, I'm a little perplexed by that, but I'm happy they're giving Daredevil another chance because, you know, I feel like with how season one was sort of formulated and how they had to pivot directions that didn't really give them the full opportunity to explore the type of story that they would want to with being the leads of what they're sort of orchestrating.
But with season two and three, there's a purity of vision so they don't have to kind of stitch together some kind of.
compromise version of the show that it should have been yeah well i mean i saw those photos of like
him in the black suit and you know bull's eye coming in uh and the people who actually were those
those uh they're not brothers are they brothers Justin and Aaron I forget their last names
so I don't know if they're brothers no no no no it's uh Aaron Benson and Justin Moorhead or
flip him around it's morehead and Benson okay so they're not brothers they're buddies yeah
but they must be like brothers they're
they're blood brothers
they did the thing where you cut your thumb
and you mush it together
they spit in their hand and shook it
and they dapped it up after
okay so
yeah that's cool
John is there
a MCEU show you want to get a sequel
boy howdy
I'm a justice for she-hawk
justice for Ironheart
your mic's off
I said justice for moon
night.
Justice for She-Holk.
Show I'd like to see get a sequel
would be
Agatha.
I'd just love to see more
in that spooky,
witchy realm,
even if she's a spooky ghost now,
you know?
It was very popular.
It was a very popular show.
It did very well.
I would love to see that.
It did set it up for a sequel.
Yeah.
But they can wrap it up
in Avengers Doomsday.
That's true.
You just go to,
like, catch in with her.
She's a ghost.
She's hanging out with death.
And then, you know,
Dr. Doom kills Loki in death.
because he's that powerful
Doomsay is going to be four hours long
wrapping up everything
just killing off everything
that they want to end
it's a secretly an eternal secret
You know what?
Give me another agent Carter
That's what I'll take
Even though it's not like
100% official MCU
Give me another agent Carter
Give me another season of agents of shield
Dude I feel like the I feel like the fan base
around agents of shield
That's way stronger than
95% of these Marvel television shows
Honestly
I haven't even seen Ais of Shield
But man, I don't hear like
You guys don't shut up about it
No one shuts up
And I'm really good friends
With the main director of that show
I've never even seen it
Before starting it
I was so cynical
And then I watched it and I was like
This is great
This is what Secret War is actually about
To fold them back into the MCU
Because there's a point in which it pivot
And like this is clearly not the same universe
As it was when we first started this
It's so weird doing these
podcast live because I forget there's a
live stream happening what's going on with the
live chat. It's hard for me to like
because last time I was like looking
at the live chat the whole time and then it makes it
difficult for me to just focus on the conversation
and I'm like
in order to work with the kind of brain that I
have I have to do everything I can
to calm my thoughts and
that will like over-stimulate and I'm
like I'm a multi-people are like great you're such
a good multitasker but people don't realize
the amount of overwhelming anxiety I deal
with because of all the multitasking.
So, sorry, chat
You feel like you're balancing a million plates right now?
Not as much right now
Because I haven't been looking directly at the live chat
But I do want to check back in
Because then I get caught up in numbers and shit
You know
You don't think about that
If there's like a shit ton of people in the stream
I'm like oh my God
How do we preserve this many numbers
They don't go down
Not that many
I'm like oh my God
No one cares about us
They're all watching other elections right now
We gotta start juggling
We're starting on camera
Performing side show attractions
I appreciate
I love on like the weight loss
I'm like that all was born
from an insecurity guy
It's a COVID mechanism
It really is just a giant co-
I don't really have a healthy relationship with food
My fantasy is staying at a hotel
And having breakfast
I love it too
Because it's such like a mundane
fantasy
I just want to live like a normal Midwestern on vacation
It's the simple things you know
It is just what I love
Simple pleasure
Like I was in Colorado for a day for a funeral, and then I go downstairs.
I'm like, oh, they have a waffle maker.
I can't have a waffle right now.
I'm going to crash.
Yeah.
You feel like it would mess you up that bad?
Yeah, it does.
I get super sleepy.
Oh, shoot.
Yeah, I crash.
I don't know.
I don't digest well.
How's the live chat doing?
Live chat's doing lovely.
There's a lot of people weighing in with their Tim Burton Marvels.
Oh, yeah?
Like what?
A lot of people said moon night, werewolf by night, ghost rider, man, thing.
Someone said, Venom.
there was one that was pretty oh they wanted Tim Burton's Marvel's Dracula because
Dracula exists in the yeah someone said that that would be cute Elsa Bloodstone as well
yeah that would be perfect actually okay yeah get uh whoever he's not dating but looks like the
woman he would date yeah exactly people are who's that right now is he with Eva Green
are they dating oh who's with Eva Green is he was dating Jenna Ortega yet has it happened
Which guy?
Has he pulled the trigger?
No, that's in a couple of years.
No, Tim Burton.
No, he's with Monica Balucci right now.
Okay, good.
Yeah, that's why she's stapled into the side of Beetle juice.
Okay, then get Monica Baluchy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or at least last I heard he was with her.
Yeah, people also saying that Sirsheronan should play Polaris.
Oh, okay.
Wondering where Moon Night season two is.
Isn't she Phoenix?
Sir Sharon?
Who might think?
Oh, no, I'm thinking of the fucking game.
Slopovi Turner?
Yeah, yeah.
They look kind of alike.
They do.
They can play sisters easily.
I don't see it.
Really?
According to Dan V-900,
Jeremy Renner said at the end of July,
he expects to come back for a Hawkeye season two.
So you may be correct, Aaron.
They may have worked their shit out.
Yeah, people respecting Tatiana Moslani
and talking about how much they love Orphan Black.
Hell yeah.
I'd love to watch that show.
Tim Burton's Morbius.
Tim Burton's Cardin.
We're back on Tim Burton now
They want them to do a vampire thing
Yeah
Ooh yeah
Like Dark Shadows
That went really well
I've not seen that movie
Did you see it?
It's worth watching
In theaters
I don't remember it
I didn't remember some of it
I think I saw it
We reviewed it
And I don't remember
I don't remember
I can't tell you like
Anything
I remember it not being great
I remember him in front of a gas station
At one point
Yes
I remember a lot of fish out of water
comedy with Johnny Depp that was not as
were you high when you watched it
more most likely
not enough I really do
think that has affected my memory address it
oh same 100% I don't remember what's my
childhood yeah
I picked up a blunt at five years old
like I think everyone who smokes
weed wants to be Seth Rogan
like 99% of people
are not going to be that guy
no everyone because he's like
the definition of like
because there's like no
I think I finally figured out why Seth Rogan is able to operate because he's had absolutely zero feeling of having to hide it or having to be like secret about it or ashamed of it and there's kind of like it's kind of in society especially when we were growing up like there's going to be a generation that grows up without being aware that like weed was like this illegal at one point really I'm like yeah I used to be like fucking terrifying to get high it was scary and you know
like growing up traveling and around
a bunch of conservatives and shit
and I very much have that
in me. I think that's why when I do
smoke weed and I'm around people
I immediately get this thing in my subconscious
where I feel like everyone's mad at me for some reason
even around other people who are high
I think I feel like
I've done something wrong.
Yeah, this sort of paranoia
definitely I definitely still feel that
especially with different
different people I'm around
and like the paranoia of being in public
I'm like, oh my God, everybody knows them high.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like, what were they care?
Exactly.
And if I'm, and I think if they like my personality at the time, that was the thing that was
really, like, especially during my Ryan Wright days, that was a real problem, is that I felt
like I had to be high to operate.
And, and I felt like people only liked me when I was high.
So I didn't know how to like be otherwise.
Wow.
How do you change that?
I don't really know, honestly.
I'd like to give some funny or meaningful answer, but I really don't know.
I don't know
I it's a lot of work on myself
and eventually I felt like I could be on camera
without being high
Do you feel like now you could do a reaction high?
Yeah I mean I think
When I got back from New York
I was kind of smoking a lot
It's like the first month
And then I was like this is like not
I am now like not really being attention anymore
But no most of the time
Yeah I mean kind of it depends
I'm not as I don't
don't think who i am today is as good at uh doing what i do before it was like just a lot of short
short form shit and trailer reactions and doing a lot of satire making jokes on camera with women you know
like it was easy yeah it's it's changed a lot yeah it's really grown in the whole direction you guys
are not going to believe the yeah uh breaking news as of like nine or 10 hours ago oh tim burton
and monica balucci split up no no is he would general or take who's next has
Has he done it?
That was the top comment on the article I was reading
with someone was like, he's joined the sicko club
and he's dating his age,
Gen. Orchanga,
unconfirmed, but he and Monica
Balucci, with much respect
and deep care for each other, quote unquote,
or splitting after two years.
No, that's, he'll find
another person who kind of looks like them.
She was approaching age-appropriate.
He's got, you know, he's got the,
he's got his type.
Yeah.
The type that look like the people he puts in his purpose.
Yeah.
If ever director had muses.
If ever a director, if it's not one specific muse, he's got a type of muse.
You know who would probably fit in that?
Who's like the girl who's in the chess show?
Anya Taylor Joy.
Yeah.
He should date Anya Taylor's joy.
It's only a matter of time where she's involved in the bird universe.
Let's read some more super chats.
We'll talk about doomsmovie.
Absolutely.
That sounds like a grand idea.
I hope the live chat's going well.
Thank you guys for being here.
Thank you for this here for your doing.
All right.
It was a very fun chat today.
All right.
Kyle.
Kai Hoggard, forgive.
Hi, Greg.
Oh, no, we did that one.
There's one about Aaron here.
Oh, dude.
Should we?
Okay.
Well, let's do Mustafajav first.
Okay.
Oh, no, we already did that too.
See, guys.
I'm just creating tension before we get to Sebastian Yunt
because that was the Tim Burton Marvel movie.
All right.
Sebastian Yuntz, back again.
question for Aaron how and why are you so cool um i sleep in a freezer most nights so you know
have a blanket um but when when when i feel like you know want to just get a little colder
um i take the blanket off and yeah come in here and then everyone's like oh you're so freezing
like thanks to sleep in a freezer so that's why i'm cool thanks hell yeah Aaron appreciate you
dad jokes for you baby
I hope that's what you wanted
what the fuck was that
that was we cut to the dog
like what dog you know
in every movie where someone says like an off color comment
and the dog goes
I cut to the dog
I appreciate your coolness
though I'm going to try that tonight
Patrick de Muzangi
appreciate you chiming in
people forget that Mephisto is the
true enemy of Dr. Doom
because he holds dominion over doom's mother's soul and of course he created a ghost rider
is that this is more of a comment okay statement than a question but do you have feelings
Aaron please uh we saw iron heart together do you feel like bringing him a fist I think it would
be cool what what we do how do you feel about I think it would be cool but here's the thing
I feel like we're beholded as like comic book fans to believe
they're gonna do the thing they do in the comics
and 95% of the time they don't do the thing
and they do their own thing and everything is like loosely inspired
it's like I don't know we don't necessarily have
a framework for how things are going to go if they do that
that would be cool you know but I don't necessarily think they have to
I like Saucer and Cohen as Mephisto a lot I think that'd be really dope
if they bring him in but
Um, yeah, I don't think that they will, at least not in Doomsday, because it seems like already a lot is happening.
But if they have that as his personal motivation for why he's doing what he's doing, I think that would add some death to the character, makes him even separate him more from what we know R.D.J. is Iron Man to be. So I would love that.
I feel like for R.D.J. as Iron Man at work, they really have to have him be more than just these two movies. Even if, like, he's, yes, he's been introducing these two.
I feel like he has to stick around a little bit longer.
Would, like, you want him to be, like, the Fantastic Four is proper,
Reed Richard, unproper?
Yeah, or just some type of presence.
I mean, Dr. Doom is a, is a Marvel present.
They shouldn't just kill off, like, big villains.
My question is, like.
Otherwise, they're going to be in a lot of what-if episodes.
But how do you step a villain down from that ultimate, big, bad, Avengers-level threat
to being an individual hero?
a threat after that.
Because I feel like you had Loki,
you know,
who was an Avengers 1,
who was never like a full on villain after that.
So it'd have to be like some sort of like anti-hero like side character.
Doom is a lot of like he's an anti-hero a lot of the time.
Okay.
So maybe yeah,
I feel like maybe you could do that and then eventually make him some sort of villain again.
But not maybe not to the degree or get to make him like some psychological equal or foil.
I think more than Thanos like Doom really.
does think he's a hero you know every yes that the the the um the intention of a lot of villains
is they think they're the hero like that's the framework and then you watch them in a movie you're
like they're definitely a bad guy you know but doom he can position himself a lot of time where you're
like i think you actually kind of see what's going on and why they like rely on him like reed
saved him a bunch of times and that hickman run that as big as duration for what for fantastic four
first steps um doom is called upon for help kind of a lot and reed's daughter vowel goes to him
calls him uncle you know oh wow so it's a he's like a big part of i think he could carry on
but i don't know i think mefisto would be great though i think sasha barron cole was
like an excellent in that role like he was excellent do you think rdj is going to do like a lot
there an accent for Dr. Doom
or just going to talk like him.
No.
He's going to do an Australian accent.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's going to bring back the natural born killers.
All right.
I'm excited to read this.
Is he natural born killer?
Yeah, he is.
He's Australian.
I don't know he's in that.
He wanted just because he wanted to be.
I want to watch that movie.
All right.
So,
all right.
Since we're on that question,
let's talk about the Dr.
Doom motivation thing that was
being speculated around here.
Okay.
Okay, check this out.
Hit me.
There's the main thing.
This is crazy.
Let me find it.
Hold on a second.
He's got a vendetta against the multiverse.
Whatever that means, feel free to theorize.
Coming from, Scooper, Daniel R.P.K.
that sounds isn't that a dumb
isn't that crazy
that sounds
that's stupid
I'm sorry
it's so general
I don't know
there's like a nothing answer
I'm like that's what we have
I mean
a bunch of rumors are that
the plot would involve like the X-Men universe
which seems very clear
from the casting announcements
and
And, you know, like this was the big speculation for the long time of it being on course to destroy other universes.
They've had, what the hell is that?
Incursions.
They've had these.
And what did Depple and Wolverine introduce these?
The being, the alpha.
The anchor being.
Yeah.
So they've introduced these elements of that, of planets being a threat to other planets.
So it could be X-Men versus Avengers sort of.
like underlined sort of
and I don't really know
why Doom would have
some type of vendetta against the multiverse
seems more like a king thing
yeah a Doom thing
I think Doom
have you seen the movie John and I
love this movie
have you seen Jet Lees
the one
no but I know you guys love it
I would love to watch it though
have you heard of Highlander
I've heard of it but never seen it
all right well there's a very basic concept of both of these movies there can only be one
so like you know people with similar powers or whatever specialty so in the one would
i really feel like this is what is doom is going to be doing this this is where i genuinely think
his motivation is in order for him to be this powerful and to be this doctor doom um
I think kind of like what Kang was doing.
I think he's wiping out other dooms.
So he could be like the prime doom or something like that.
Because he's got a vendetta with the multiverse.
Then, you know, he's got to be there in those other multiverses, right?
I don't really know what his vendetta would be,
but I think he's trying to become like prime doom in some way
instead of working with other dobs
like he's it's kind of like the opposite of reed
where like council of reads is not exactly heroic
but you know there's like a council of reeds
and I don't feel like there's going to be a council of dooms
I think he who would she's trying to be the one
that sounds fun in in theory
but feels
um and granted it's all about how it's executed
but it feels a little counterproductive
or not counterproductive, but in the sense
This is very counterproductive for doom.
No, no, not kind of productive.
I don't know, how you get it's cool.
No, because I feel like a motivation like that
because I think with Thanos, right,
and someone like Kilmonger,
the reason why those villains are so great
is because you understand their motivation
even if you don't agree with it.
And I'm trying to think like a moral justification
or like a reason why I would be on Dume side
or understand him wanting to kill his other selves.
It doesn't seem like a motivation.
It's very like, oh, like, yeah, I get it.
Look, I get behind it.
This movie has the opportunity to be the most surprisingly cohesive film.
Right now, I have no idea what the fuck this movie is.
It has a lot of juggling to do.
I'm just like, this is, I am so fascinated by what this movie is.
Because the hype around, it doesn't feel as hyped as, as we probably want it to feel.
No.
It doesn't.
It really doesn't.
But I am so, I'm so unbelievably morbidly curious to see if they can pull this off to just be like, it made sense.
From beginning to end, I followed it and it made sense and it was paced well.
Like I'm so curious to see if it could just be a movie that fits its runtime more than how does it change Marvel?
I just work on a film on its own.
I just like, what is act one, two, and three?
Is there an arc in here?
And does this make sense?
And is there stuff in there that didn't feel unnecessary?
You know, I'm so much more curious by that.
I feel like it'll do something similar to Infinity War.
And like the, I don't think it'll spend time assembling our Avengers.
I think everyone's already going to be set in their team dynamics.
and then it's just going to be about those team dynamics
responding to the threat of Doom.
So, you know, maybe it could work.
You know, maybe they'll find a way where the first film
was about everybody just kind of getting wrecked by Doom
where he goes to these different universes
and the second one is, you know, them all having to engage
with each other to stop Doom in Secret Wars.
But, yeah, I'm very curious to see how it'll cohesively work.
A multiverseal story nonetheless,
how does that even, yeah, work in a way
where it makes sense and it's satisfying?
That's the main question.
That's what I was saying.
Yeah.
I don't know, maybe it, maybe it won't.
Maybe it won't.
Maybe it'll just feel like a disjointed mess.
But, you know, I like all these characters
and I hope that we find a way to stay true
to who they are as individuals.
So we can have a story that's just fun.
Can we just get fun?
I don't even need to be great.
I just want to have fun.
Can we have fun, Greg?
Yeah, we can.
I like Justice League when I first watched it the first couple times.
The first couple times.
Yeah.
I saw Zach Snyder's Justice League.
And then I just couldn't go back.
I tried.
I'm like, this is annoying now.
Yeah, because it's like half the film.
like half the films cut out at that point yeah it's just weird now but i didn't mind like it clearly
was a flawed film but i i was kind of i was i wasn't kind of i was pretty on the defense with that
i'm like this a fun movie and so and like a lot of things i was that i the intention that i latched
onto was the fleshed out version of zach Snyder's justice like the the intentions of
stuff but anyway yeah um maybe it could be that which is a great two-parter experience just a just a fun
time yeah hopefully fingers crossed i don't know but hey cameos cameos galore cameos am i right baby
are you guys excited i'm so i'm so back and forth with this film i feel like if doom is the focus
and everyone responding to doom again their ass is kicked i think it'll be good i think it'll be a fun time
um i don't know their ass is kicked until the very end when the last ass is kicked
To be continued.
I trust the Russo brothers, you know?
As far as Marvel goes, they haven't let us down.
Marcus McPheely, those four guys together have never let us down when it comes to the movies.
They've had, like, what four under their belt?
That's true.
Ridley Scott made Prometheus, Steve Silver made Indiana Jones 4,
George Lucas made the prequels.
You know, like, yeah, sometimes you just need a good break.
But that's not a whole creative team all returning.
I'm just messing with you.
No, you're absolutely right.
Like that four people have not, they have not,
they've made some of the absolute most impactful.
The MCU still exists because of those guys.
So yeah, like that is, that's true.
You know, we'll just find out.
It's just a different, it's a very different order they have now, though, you know.
Yeah, because they don't have the building block.
They don't have the building blocks to set up all these things.
But, hey, maybe they'll find a way to work with the pieces.
that I've been established
or they'll establish some things that
we didn't know were happening
within the film itself.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's that
for that piece of news.
I will want to talk about
the Timothy Shalameh thing in a second,
but John, can we pull up
a couple of SuperChap?
Yes, I also very, very quickly
would like to shout out Tim Wing,
who is at work in Maine
behind the desk of a golf pro shop.
Is he super bored right?
He's having a blast right now.
Largely thanks to us and an assortment of fly fishing lures.
Yay.
He should watch.
Send us some.
Send us golf clubs.
We're all big golfers around here.
We'll go fishing.
He should watch Stick on Apple TV.
It's a great, great TV show.
Oh, heck yeah.
I have not seen it.
Is it actually good?
Yeah.
It's a daredevil spin-off.
You know a show I've watched?
I get it, John.
You know a show I've watched?
It's really good.
I haven't laughed at home this much in so long.
It literally changed my mood last night.
Last Man on Earth.
Have you heard of this show?
Oh, is it the Will Forte show?
Have you seen it, John?
I've seen.
I saw at least like the first half of the first season.
Oh my God.
It is such a good show.
Yeah.
It really put me like in a much better mood.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I had a day.
history but yeah that that like really uh that really changed my mood around man that's a great that's a
great show anyway did that show finish its run yeah oh good good good good a few seasons long it's
really creative really good will forte who i interviewed him great guy super nice he said he wants to
come back on oh that's so good he said when kiety versus acme is on he said he wants to come back on
that would be so sick when did you do that when did you interview him yesterday really
Oh, wow.
I had a very long day yesterday.
No, yeah.
Especially something happens, like, first thing in the morning can sometimes feel like
as a week ago when it was just yesterday.
Well, then I had to jet to the neurologist.
And, like, I booked for 11.30.
And then they're like, oh, we have you here.
It was 11.
I'm like, it's not what my email says.
And they're like, sorry, you have to wait.
Like, I waited two hours.
And I got a parking ticket because I didn't know where I was.
And my appointment, I love.
at the time my appointment was two minutes long no just telling me your results are normal
like i was here for two hours and i'd be so pissed i'm so sorry yeah it was annoying
and just kind of like set my whole day like she's like god i lost so much time a day for this
bullshit oh you got to tell me that on the phone why don't you just call me man you didn't even
like charge my insurance you didn't even charge my insurance for this visit like what the fuck of my
here for
such a
fucking way
what's the next
super chat
so I can
pay my
parking ticket
all righty
all right
back in action
I already paid
it
Ethan T
thank you
for
my man
Ethan says
we need a real
roomy
shirt of
Arun and
Andrew
chill in on the
friend's
couch for
example
yeah no
no you don't
want that
you don't want that it's a super smelly couch
that couch you don't want that one
no one told me life was going to be this way
no man don't do it
don't do it yes
there you go don't do it
do it who wants it
hey we got some stream labs don't we do have
four stream labs at current
hey let's read let's go to stream labs
and we'll go to then go stream labs
and then I want to talk about Timothy Shalome
and then
then we'll go back to Super Jets
oh let me resize Aaron
in the camera here.
Size me up.
Every week.
It's a little bit diff.
All right.
Here we go.
We got first stream lab contribution of the day.
Comes from Sebastian.
And this is actually an interesting behind the scenes look.
Sebastian says, no, $1 stream labs from now on?
Well, it's nothing we change.
So if they took that out, I'm sorry.
Otherwise, I will look into it and make sure you guys can do the dollar.
Let's see if they can do 50 cents.
I would like
to do three hours
of 50 cent question
Hey man
Half dollar live stream
There's something that just tickles me
If you did it
If you did it all 50 cent contributions
And you did them as like a rapid fire
If I did them in 30 seconds
Yeah and you see how many
You can squeeze it
It'll probably be really successful
You'll make so many 50 cents
So exhausting
But it would be so worth it
It's so funny.
All of them have to be about 50 cent, the rapper.
Oh, I can answer those questions.
I can answer a lot of those questions too.
I make all my answers yes, no.
Was he on the Book of Power?
No.
Refer to the experts.
Stephen Estevan.
Thank you for chiming into the stream labs.
Went to see Jaws in IMAX for the 50th anniversary last week.
It still is amazing for 50 years old.
Do you remember your first IMAX experience?
Mine was alien Romulus, so I am still a bit of a newbie too.
Wow, you have missed out on some amazing IMAX experiences.
Oh my gosh.
Wow, really?
That's the damn.
My first one, I believe, was Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Ascaband.
I believe that was the first one.
It wasn't shot with IMAX cameras, though.
That wasn't until the dark night when they shot with.
iMacs cameras oh wow so like that's a thing now that they do but but back then it was just
conversion to iMacs format to be on the iMac screen maybe i don't really remember mine i think it
was the dark night it's a dark night for a lot of people yeah but my i remember my first true
iMac's experience was uh when we went to see the batman at universal and coy and i both went to
the bathroom and miss robert patinson it happens man sometimes you that's still have that
vote in, I'll show it.
Oh, please, yeah.
I've never seen it.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
John was yours?
My first I'm trying to, I know it must have been like something when I was a youth at like the planetarium or whether.
We went to the science center and they and back in the old days like that was where the IMAX screen was.
So it's probably one of those.
But in terms of like a movie like Dark Knight is what stands out, I'm sure I went to like something that had been converted to IMAX.
We saw I am legend and IMAX.
Which had the dark night.
Had the dark night.
Yeah.
So it was definitely at least I Am Legend.
Probably something before that.
It just wasn't like the main Primo format I would wind up out a lot, I guess, until it became like, oh, we're shooting this in it.
I've always loved that.
I've always loved it.
Even though it was just converted.
I would love it.
I thought it was beautiful.
Then like we probably, like I know I've been into that AMC IMAX at Universal before we saw I'm legend.
So it must have been something else before there.
And then they, they, I remember watching episode three when they, when that came out and they put it in an IMAX, but they didn't convert it to IMAX.
So it was just a little, fucking blurry.
And it was like a terrible experience.
Hell yeah.
Yikes.
Hey man, you'll never forget it.
It was bespoke.
Yeah.
There's a very, there's a very big difference when they just like slap the footage on the IMAX.
Because they started stretching it out.
So it just looked blurry.
Oh, no.
That sounds like something the theater came up.
up with without like checking the tech yeah there's like let's just haul a pro i know you can't just
haul a projector but in the age of dcp they probably just like let's just set this up on the imax
projector yeah right right dude that reminds me apparently the biggest iamax screen in the world is
in new york city bullshit where yeah oh crap i i saw the exact address but it's it's like going there
for that paul thomas anderson i think i think it's like four or five times bigger than the one at
Universal.
Bullshit.
Really?
Yeah, dude,
John,
I don't know if you got the...
I'll kill him.
I have another reason to go back to...
I'll fact check this.
I'm X.
New York.
I love New York.
It's in Manhattan.
I saw that.
Is it the one in actual
Times Square?
It might be,
John, do you...
I saw the advertisement
for it, AMC.
IMAX.
What is your claim right now?
Are you saying biggest in America
or biggest in the world?
I mean,
I'll take biggest in America.
Yeah, let's go from America.
I don't need to travel out of the country.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm 100% confidence in New York.
uh it is the amc lincoln square wow the one oh wow yeah yeah it's like on like the fourth floor or something like that it's his own floor for just that theater it is a true iMacs screen with a large 1.43 aspect ratio which is the same projection size as the original imax films wow new yorkess i guess so i mean they they'd have like the crazy theater productions and shit so they'd want to go all out yeah that's wild though the all-time biggest is in germany oh damn okay
Germans got us beat
I want to watch
the re-release of Avatar
the way of water in Germany
travel just for a day
for that movie
that is not shot
with I-VIX cameras
70 millimeter
and glorious bastards
let's go
god
I mean that'd be dope
anyway what's the next one
thank you
thank you Stephen for that question
I had tickets to that
jaw screening
and I was booked to shoot
and then I realized
oh shit I will mess up everyone's schedule
if I go to this movie
and so I will just skip this
next time it plays we got to make sure Greg
makes it out to Jaws.
You got to go to the Jaws museum that they have
with the I think the
I don't like Jaws that much
I want to see it on a big screen
John was like the Jaws Museum
way more than I would
I like I want to see it on a big screen
because I haven't seen Jaws actually that many times
me neither
I don't have, like, a huge association with...
My biggest association with Jodd's is Andrew.
Same.
And Dolly Zooms.
But, you know, like, I've seen it, but I could stand with a, like, a true appreciative...
I zone out whenever that monologue comes up.
Just like, where's the shark?
Yeah, Mom.
Stop talking about the shark and show it.
Blow it up already.
Does this have anything to do with the shark?
If this was cut out, we would save a lot of time.
All right, we got a two-parter from Dan v. 900.
Expect nothing less from Dan v. 900.
And one of them's a $2, so to Sebastian, you know, we can, yeah, Sebastian just is saying that's at least an option.
First one says, congrats on surviving Batman and Robin.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'm not sure if you're doing a commentary for Mask of the Fantasm.
We are.
Crossing fingers.
But I never really considered phantasm for the Batman Part 2 with.
Andrea as the first love
and Patinson's demeanor as Bruce.
Hush has been set up
with the Edward Elliott reference
in the first film as the
Dead Dad. Reaves
saying, oh yeah, that's true. Reves saying the villain
digs into his past and his
life makes me think that is the
plan. Court of Al's would be great,
but the Talons wouldn't be undead
assassin. Yeah,
they don't need to be undead assassins.
They just need to have talent suits.
And I think Paul Danos
get a proper riddler outfit yeah i think it would fit perfectly the hat and everything
yeah with the time and yeah oh my god it'd be great she's just looked like jim garrett yeah um
in his one sees leotard if you are justice please do not lie yes this is all good points
i i agree and um batman and robin is uh probably my favorite of the rea like i really started
losing my mind uh because it started my basically i started off like i don't know this is pretty fun and i think
it's intentional camp and i get it and then like somewhere like i think at the solid hour mark i was like
who this is becoming a bit of a punching bag experience and then and i was just started like oh my god
this is this is really hard to sit through i'm glad you enjoyed any amount of it would you say that's
your hardest reaction you've had to do like that were the worst movie you've watched
no there's got to be something worse than that right that you've watched that would that you
didn't like on this channel yeah no i mean that's not like the go to human centipede is a
great movie that's what i'm saying though it's a subversion of expectation god no i mean what did i see
i really didn't like the dragon ball movie like that was one that was like this is really bad
this is this is really boring very bad yeah it's a boring awful film
I look back fondly.
Did you see that was worse than the last Airbender?
Yeah, yeah, plenty of people put Airbender.
I think Airbender's more disappointing because of the fandom around it.
And, but I think Airbender actually was like,
I think there are some moments that are actually kind of all right.
If I'm being really honest, kind of cool.
Is it better than the live action show?
What?
The Avatar Last Airbender live action show.
No.
No, this show is better.
Okay.
I think both are not worthy of the shit out of any show.
Although they do shit with Zucco that apparently didn't fly over well with the audience for, like, they do shit in the live action show with Zucco that I thought was really good.
And him and Uncle Iro, I thought they did a really great job.
But it's different, though.
It's very different.
but and I guess because it's so different
I didn't mind it though I liked it
where they really dropped the ball
in both adaptations is
they I think they're so scared of adapting
Ang I don't know why they don't know how to make
Ang a character
I don't yeah I watched it like
the first two or three episodes and never went back to it
he's like not as fun right he's like just kind of like
more serious if I remember correctly
for the show I honestly
can't tell you
I really don't know
yeah ain't supposed to be silly in
and goopy and playful the kids could fight though okay yeah it's not it's not a kid's fault they just
like they don't know how to write hang they i think they're so scared of i don't know why like
we have to keep him one note personality uh but the um yeah and i completely honestly don't remember
all them dropping edward elliott's name in the batman i don't remember that all uh same
cool that's cool all right i mean if that's a seed actually planted i just kind of wait no they
did because when um when they are he's watching the video and like the
gets the email and he opens it and then there's edward elliott's name and he's at the
convenience store next to six the berry i thought you're building it'll be for a second
but no when he uh when the reveal that uh it was like the doctor the doctor when the when the
riddler revealed the the thing about his mom i want to say that's in the same video about uh
about Hush's dad.
Oh, I guess then, all right.
Yeah, you're rewatch it.
I got to rewatch it too.
John, we watch it.
All right.
Audience rewatch, everybody rewatched Batman.
You're rewatching the adaptation of Batman Hush?
Okay, cool.
Well, I'll rewatch it again.
I mean, I remember what they changed.
Look, guys, watch it again for sure.
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I'm going to tell you about Timothy Shalame.
Oh.
I'm going to mix this in here.
Oh, now they're just more foggy.
Nelson.
Okay.
Foggy.
Timothy Chalemay is in this thing called Highside.
All right.
I don't really care what it's about.
Okay.
I mean, it's about centers on Billy,
a former Moto GP prodigy whose career was derailed by a crash.
Now he's running a garage and caring for his father
until his estranged fugitive brother, Cole,
pulls him into bank robberies using super bikes.
So Paramount's producing this.
Salomey, James Mangold, is going to be directing it.
They're going to pay Salome $25 million for this movie.
What?
That's wild.
That's all I got.
It's based on a book or something?
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
Is that a popular book?
Salome is a great actor.
don't like he is he's great he's i think he's i think he's just going to keep getting better um
but this sounds like a lot of money they shouldn't be supposed to get i don't feel like this
i hope this movie does a hundred million dollars they keep talking about how movies are struggling
and hey you got to pay james mingled probably a shit ton of money yeah um and then you say
i don't know if any actor if unless you're like timothy shama i don't think is a box
office draw like that.
He's always Wonka.
Yeah, that's
killed.
But I don't feel like
he's quite there yet to be getting paid.
That's a massive
investment in this
one very young actor for
something that I don't feel like will pay.
That's just the actor.
Like, what about the other millions of
dollars until you have to spend on
the actual making of the movie?
Like you're paying salaries, but
like the production, the writer, the rest of
of the cast everyone involved.
This is a very, very expensive movie already.
Not to mention the insurance for bike stunts.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Like, this sounds cool, but this is part of, like,
we keep hearing about production budget problems,
and I'm like, well, you know,
actors are important for films, yes,
and they're very valuable, but is $25 million worth it?
I have no box office or budget expert at all in this shit,
but I'm like, I feel like it's probably a little,
too much money right now to be paying someone it makes you wonder if that was like their offer when
they presented him the movie or if that's what his his uh his agent and his his team negotiated
yeah something that high i mean what i think like certain actors are absolutely like i think if
you know decaprio is going to pay 25 million like yes Leonardo decaprio um even then though
i don't feel like decaprio is that name any like no i just don't think any actor is is that anymore
where you put them there sometimes it works more internationally i think than it does um you know
domestically because i i think like tom cruise is like kills overseas you know brad pit
kills overseas like there's some actors who like just fucking kill overseas when they're in a
film but i don't know of any actor beyond like a couple of the main big ones that would
warrant like a paycheck that huge yeah because i feel like we're like we're like
We have popular actors, but movie stars are not what they were, like, 20, 30 years ago.
Yeah, I used to the same degree.
I used to see movies because a star was in it, you know?
Yeah, but, you know, I feel like a lot of these guys are doing, like, indie movies or some semblance of projects.
Maybe, who knows?
Maybe they feel like because of Dune, he's, like, that guy or that level?
Is Dune, like, a box office, like, juggernaut like that?
I mean, Dune's huge, but Dune's the star, you know?
Like, I think Deneve is more of the same.
star than
Timothy Shalvei.
It's honestly.
Dennis Villanoi face.
People are debating this in the chat.
They are debating this in the chat?
What are they saying?
People are...
I'm scared. Only say the ones that agree with me.
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Thunder God says Timothy is a
rising star, darling. Not a movie star. Terrible
idea.
people discussing
whether or not
he is the draw
for Dune
or whether Dune itself
is the draw.
Hold on.
Dune is 100%
the draw.
You can't even put
an influencer in a movie.
When studios try that shit out
or they put an influencer in something,
it's like you're better off
putting like a K-pop star
in something
and getting people to watch that
than you are some person
with a million TikTok followers,
you know?
I know it sounds like a cynical guy
but like fucking look at the
the numbers it doesn't do anything but the thing is do you think dune would have done as well if an
influencer was in that role no i i don't feel like timothy shallamee i think really is i think i like
him a lot in the first one i think he's really great in the second one i think it's really remarkable
in the second one um but it's not to the degree though that i feel like this is really not an
insult to him because i i can't have a size this enough i truly think he's an incredibly talented
actor um but i i don't feel like it needed to specifically be timothy shallame you know he's not
i don't think he fits the role to that extent where there's like an alt universe where someone
else was playing this guy like dave batista came out and was saying that he wish he could have
played peacemaker when he had the offer but he couldn't do the scheduling conflicts yeah but then he
saw what john cina does he's like well no one else could do that and i agree i'm like yeah like it would be
there's no way Dave Batista
I don't see a version where Dave Batista
would be able to be
he would do a very different thing
but I don't feel like it would have the impact or be
the version that James Gove
would want to follow into a TV show and shit like
that because John Cena
really brought something
special and unique and very
different to that so that's why I'm like
yeah John Cena all the way I can only
see John Cena but for that role
in Dune like the
sandworms have started out of
like the world the world is the star yeah i don't know because what else has he done that that is
really like huge like he like in terms of box office to warrant a uh uh a salary this big
i can't think of anything else off my head i don't know what wonka did and you know he's done like
he's like an indie darling so it feels kind of strange and he's getting the the movie star budget
but i don't know what the other actors i know you kind of listed some like overseas but i don't know
I don't know, are there any other contemporary
or younger actors even worthy of
that sort of price tag?
Yeah, you know, put him in the next dude.
Replace him with Shaliman.
Yeah, I don't know.
What does the average leading man make
in a movie these days for like comparison?
I think if you're not doing like box office points
at like five to ten million maybe.
Okay, so it's like double that.
Yeah, so this is a lot of money.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe the movie will be really huge.
Do people still believe in in James Mungold as a strong director after,
was his last movie in Dana Jones or did a movie after that?
It was Dolly Destiny, yeah.
Okay.
And people did not like that movie from what I hear.
He did four B. Ferrari before that, which is really beloved.
And then Logan before that.
Yeah.
So, I don't know, maybe, yeah, I genuinely can't think of what would justify that.
I have to imagine his team really negotiated something for him to get that big of a payout.
I don't know.
Maybe he goes full nude.
Maybe.
Maybe he does all his own stunts.
It's like, if I'm going to risk my life, you'll pay that bag.
Yeah.
Full nude, all his own stunts shaved his head.
The whole thing.
No method with it.
Yeah.
Look, he's going to make his money.
I'm happy for him.
Good for you.
You get that bag.
You go buy that yacht, buddy.
Get it, Tim Cham.
Still not as much as some influencers.
He's insane.
That is selling brand sales.
You know, actually some influence
We still make way more money than that in a month
Than he does over the course of like six months to a year
Making this movie
But I will say good on him for being one of the few actors
For not a not selling out
But I feel like a lot of actors have podcasts these days
And I feel like some of the allure of them
Being able to slip into a role is a little bit diminished
Because we're seeing so much of who they are
Instead of allowing them to their work to speak for them
And I feel like he's one of the few
That's kind of like held out on that
Yeah, where did they feel like John Bernthal supersedes that problem?
Even though he has no podcast, I'm like, I still see John Bernthal slip in a role.
Okay, that's fair.
Because I feel like he really commits to what he's doing.
But I don't know.
I feel like he's like an exception to that rule, though.
No, a thousand percent, yeah.
Anyway, and DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence are starring,
I've put it on this random trailer.
You know, Robert Pattinson and Jennifer Lawrence are in a weird-ass movie together?
They're the leads of it.
It looks so freaking weird.
Lynn Ramsey is the director.
It looks so strange.
It looks awesome.
It looks like the kind of movie
I would love on my own time.
But I, yeah, and DeCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence.
That's so cool with Jennifer.
I think Jennifer Lawrence isn't getting enough credit
for like how she's just like,
I'm gonna just fucking do whatever movies I want to do.
Yeah, she paid her dues, her franchise dues in the 2010s.
Like, do what you want in the 2020s.
Do a comedy here and there.
Do a weird indie movie movie.
And I thought her and DeCaprio actually worked really well together in that Adam McKay movie.
I forgot what that's called The Netflix Wanted.
Don't look up.
I actually thought they worked really well together in that.
So there's some upcoming original movies I'm excited for.
I saw the Anaconda trailer and I'm like, this looks really funny.
Yeah, there's some upcoming films that I think are going to be pretty sweet.
I really want to see Emma Stone's new movie where she's the CEO who's kidnapped and they shave her head and shit.
Oh, the guy who did poor things, his next movie.
Yeah.
Your most Lenthermos or I don't know.
Yorgos Lentemos.
Thank you.
Thank you, John.
But yeah, there's some original.
I even like the, I mean, this looks kind of, this could be very hit or miss, but I said that, what was it called?
The fucking, the maid movie housemaid with Amanda Seafreed and, and Sidney Sweeney.
It's based on some big book.
Oh.
And it's got a bit of a.
erotic thriller gone like i haven't seen that i'm missing out of so many movies i haven't seen
that uh blake lively movie was simple plan simple favor oh yeah and they've been a sequel to it yeah
i haven't seen that but it looks like that it looks like what the trailer it looks like one of those
movies where there's like a bit of an erotic undertone to it um but yeah it looks really cool it's coming
Yeah, a movie really bummed about, I was, I really was looking forward to him, but apparently
it's doing really bad.
Like, people do not like that movie.
Form your own opinion.
I will.
I would love to see it.
Still, you see if I, you know, vibe with it.
But it sucks that people aren't viving with it generally.
I don't know why people aren't vibing with it.
We could be the exception.
We could be the exception.
Be the exception.
Usually when a movie gets a bunch of hate, eventually gets a following of the people who feel like
it's misunderstood.
people are mad that we said
Batman and Robin is terrible
I remember
It's a real thing
I you know what
When I did my Batman
Rewatch for
Before going into the Batman
I had an appreciation for Batman forever
Because that was the first one
To actually dive into his character
Because I feel like the first two movies
Sort of treat him as like a mythical creature
And that was the first one
To treat him as a man
Yeah
So I'm like all right
I see you Joel Schumacher
I appreciate you for that
Yeah
A lot of goofy shit in that movie
But you know
I commend him for that.
I can't argue with you there, man.
I don't want to.
I'll argue with you.
All right.
Take care.
Fight, fight.
John, what's next on the agenda?
All right, let's jump in.
What time is it?
We got it's 150.
Oh, my God.
We're going to quality speed this.
We are going to quality speed this.
Super chats are closed.
Forgive.
Thank you guys for being here on a random,
relaxing Friday. And we also
have a couple of Stragular Stream Labs
as well. Let's do it, John.
Let's stream it up. First, we got
a triple feature from
Demani, all
dollars. So we're back in the game
Sebastian. Look it out. All right.
Demani says, Monica
is with the Foxmen,
the Marvels.
DS2, No Way
Home, F4 and Thunderbolts
cap four. Based
on rumors, my theory is
Clearly, the multiverse is dying, and Avengers will go to Rescue Monica with Doom.
We get A versus X-Men fight.
Doom is pulling the strings.
And then DeMani goes on to say, it's true.
I live in NYC.
I saw Oppenheimer at Lincoln Center at AMC, Lincoln Center.
It is life-changing.
Okay, okay.
And then 3 of 3.
Are all the podcasts going to be live now?
Also, we need the Groxie, bring her back.
reaction bring her back as in the movie bring her back i said i would never watch that movie again
it's so disturbing and sad but i need a groxy reaction g oh man it looks like the most depressing
time yeah shouts out she was not well after talk to me that's the only time i felt bad for roxy
i only feel bad for her but she's like oh she's clearly sad like oh the reaction messed her up
Yeah, like, and the color purple.
Like, oh, this is even, like, fun, disturbed.
Like, you were just, your day is ruined.
I'm sorry.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
There's me after.
It's the power of movies.
Fringing zero dark city.
Yeah, yeah, she was really, like, yeah, it makes me feel bad.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
I didn't even know that this movie would be that harsh.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe.
We're going to do the craft instead.
So, you know.
try to do something a little more fun
um the multiverse is dying in the avengers will go to rescue monica with doom as we get an
avenger yeah i mean that all sounds like a reasonable theory i appreciate that
yeah all right they got to wrap that storyline up don't they they got five minutes
they was a post credits i don't know five minutes to wrap it up i feel like they do
they want people to forget about the marvels so i feel like they won't even touch it
i think that's all right you can be in that universe and uh we'll catch you and catch you on
Catch you, Monica.
Because I haven't heard that she's going to be in the movie.
Didn't they say they're going to do another chair announcement or something like that?
Oh, yeah.
I love the chairs.
Yep.
Everybody's favorite video that they're following for hours.
Got people talking.
Yeah.
Most of the conversation is about how great it is.
Round two, baby.
Everybody is looking forward to that.
Just slow it down this time.
Double the chairs.
slower the speed. What's next on the
agenda, John? As we transition
back in the super chats, I have a stray
comment from
Kenya King saying
they're scared to make Saka correct.
Him being sexist is a huge character
development, is a huge
character development factor
of his character.
So that's just a stray
airbender thought for you guys. I don't know.
People are cool with Johnny Storm not being
perverted.
That's a way to put there.
You can do it. You can do it.
Pervert, Johnny Storm. All right, we're back in action.
Let's see. We got Sebastian Yuntz is back in the super chats.
Next stream, full face on John Cam.
Let me turn that camera back on. Hey, it's me and I'm here for you.
So not even next stream, this stream.
There you go. All right. Next one up, Sebastian.
Thank you, Sebastian.
All right.
Michael underscore wants to know, or has this to say.
Just rewatched the Batman, and I love it even more.
I'm excited to rewatch it because we're going on our obviously going through the Batman movies,
and we watch Mass of the Fantasim next.
Then we do the Nolan trilogy.
But I haven't watched.
I realized, like, I haven't seen Batman Begins in, like, probably close to a decade.
wow there's a lot of movies like because that was a since since i've known olivia which is almost
10 years now that was one that we're like we're going to rewatch the dark eye trilogy and we've only
watched the dark night like we've and so i'm like wow it's been probably like close to 10
years since i've seen batman begins and i caught like some of dark night rises in a in a hotel
um like uh just playing randomly on the tv but i haven't like sat down and watched
those movies in a very like dark night is the one i like obviously now the best all of them i
i saw i saw it like uh 11 times in the theaters so i've never seen a movie more than dark
night in theaters and uh but no bad man begins in that but the batman i'm curious to see like how
how it is to go from like the pacing of nolan which is very like romanticized and faster
and then like a lot of cutting and editing to then like a very deliberate slow you know
dreadful experience of the bad man.
I'm excited to see
if it bores the shit out of me.
That's what I'm trying to say.
He just fall asleep.
Yeah, I fucking, hey, where's the joke?
Back to the soups.
Hey, vengeance.
Myunk, running a var.
Hey, buddy.
Ola.
Hey, Greg and Aaron.
Do you guys think that the Avengers
Doomsday promotion being done in the last few weeks
has any impact?
What else can be done?
do some social media challenge
that's how you get people on board
have all the Avengers
in a podcast together
they air out their
their drama
I think if they did like an epic
round table that would be pretty cool
Avengers rewatch podcast
if it was like literally just
oh that's like the entire
47 person ensemble
like they led with the cast
announcement not the character
reveals you know and so if they if they want to lean that way I guess they could do that but
if they did a giant roundtable where only like the most famous people get asked questions
and a lot of people are just left to the side I hate moderators who don't who do that
shit it really bothers me only ask like the stars the questions yeah they like they don't
even the scales at all I think that really bothers me I see maybe
your outlets do it a lot yeah I don't like care about the little guy were they
perceived and so often times the person who's not as famous those people are you
like I went to the studio event a few weeks ago and the cast was there doing a
Q&A of course like makes sense set there was a creator of it so it makes
sense he gives most of the questions yeah but of course all the others and
there was like a couple of other smaller characters one guy literally just said
they gave me this question for the for the the the one black person on
panel he's like they gave me this question to read everyone else's quite he just submitted it
everyone else's question he came up with oh wow and he read the question and the guy
he was hilarious in the and the way he handled it and he got like the biggest laughs and so yeah
i don't know it just bothers me when i know that's what they would do if they did that big round to
like rdj would get 90% of the questions and stuff you know it's disproportionate
i have to have them all on a love island type show where all the avengers air at each other's drama
I think, I think, sorry, no, what you say?
No, I was going to say with that or a hot one's roundtable with all of the cast.
There you go.
That would be fun.
That would be fun.
I think if you do Pedro and RDJ doing some promos together.
That would be awesome.
I think that would at least be famous viral videos.
I don't know if we would sell tickets, but.
Yeah, I just have petting puppies or whatever.
Famous viral videos do not equate to ticket conversions most of the time.
They never do.
they rarely do but I think that would be really cool I really think they should do the whole like doom is coming like that's a hashtag now or something and I and I think they should do like marketing like that like do some cool ass I remember like when watchman was coming out that's what intrigued me I don't even remember what the marketing specifically was but I didn't know what watchman was when I saw these posters around like what is this movie and I think if they did that like like did stuff that look like spray painted on freeways and shut that I mean that I mean I saw that I mean I saw that
it look like the like doom is coming in some way how cool the marketing was for dark night when
that came out and like all those the little posters and stuff yeah stuff online like well they don't
do market like that anymore and that was really effective yeah i think it would actually be a cool
way to immerse us into the idea of a villain they haven't built up at all by getting the audience
like feel like they're getting involved in the buildup to him yeah they got that's that would
make up for not building him up in the movies yeah it was you know it's funny it's interesting
watching how different the marketing approach was from Superman and their marketing team versus
how Fantastic Ford did theirs because I felt like the Superman team really had somebody on
the pulse who was like very active in like the modern day like people doing social media
and stuff and like even um did you see David Cornswit on like Ricky Glassman's podcast
okay it was like a really like he was like a very dry sense of humor and it was like really
awkward for like the first like 20 minutes but they kind of like wrote out the awkwardness
and found like a rhythm and I feel like stuff like that we live in a day and age where I know
I just talked about like actors shouldn't have podcasts and stuff but I were the more I guess
endeared you are to the people that you're watching I think maybe maybe more inclined to go watch
whatever movie that they're promoting so I think I don't know I think I think I think that's true
I think a lot of time if you just connect with the actor you you're more interested in watching what
else they have to do. It happens to me. It happens to me a lot. Yeah. I end up watching their
shit because of that. Yeah. I'd recommend that one with David Cornside if you haven't seen it.
I already saw Superman. I don't even watch us. But no, but I think just like tapping into the
sincerity of, you know, who they are could be a great promotional tool. But also, you know,
like you said, building intrigue for, for Doom himself, you know, just, I don't know,
having him pop up in different places across the city, have more like promo.
would make it feel like an event
yeah it would feel like event
an event is
on its way it's still wild like
yeah we're talking so much about doing this
it was still like almost a little over a year
away before this movie comes out like they it seems
like they reserved this cool ass marketing for these
expos and I'm like no I just
put that on the fucking street you know
like the lights with the pulling out the skull
that are ripping off from the from the comics
where he's like grabbing
Thanos's skeleton that that shit
like
if you're like driving on the free or the galactus thing that they had in
Vegas if they just have shit like that popping up without it being something people
paid a shit ton of money to go to it would probably be because then you're tending to
be on your hard cores yeah and right now MCU needs to get back to that's why I think
things like Magneto and Genosha is not going to be exciting for a lot of people because
that's like the hardcore who will love that right and yeah
Yes, you want to tend to your hard cores, but then you have a chance.
Then you risk just being like what Star Wars became,
where it's like, now I feel out of the conversation because I didn't watch Clone Wars.
So I don't know what the fuck's happened.
That's how so many people feel when they watch some of these live action shows.
They're like, I don't know what that is.
I don't know.
I don't get this because they missed out on something else because they're only tendons of the hard cores.
And shit like that, doing shit like this would really involve the world way more.
Yeah.
And I don't feel like the answer comes in like keep showcasing Robert Downey Jr.
in this. Like, I think that'll do, I think that will make a dent, honestly. I think that would
help. But I feel like this other version would also ease some cynicism or get people like,
I don't know, I'm kind of excited, even though I'm like, I'm a little bit apprehensive.
This is getting me kind of excited to see what they have to do. Yeah, I feel like with them
having a year plus to do some marketing. I feel like they have for more opportunities to get people
excited with Doom. Like we just saw a picture of him at an expo in in China and people already like
talking about it like even us talking about this right now is doing marketing for them yeah so i feel
like you know it'll in turn do well because of conversations like this but also conversations like
this but also um whatever they come up with in the next year because i think next year's gonna be
a little lighter on marvel content with i think just spider man and doomsday as far as the film
side goes i i feel like if they just had posters or billboards even if they did like okay more
this like in world marketing but i think it'd be cool if there was like a crashed fantastic
four ship somewhere you know or if like a billboard was just like the fantastic four like
fucked up you know like showing something like that just like some crazy still to that way
you're you're getting people like really cured like this seems like this is going to be something
wild you know or something cool like oh did you see that i know you guys just watched severance did you
see the thing that they did in a in new york like the grand central station well they had the actors
like in this box and they were all just doing their roles like they were in lumen yeah and then like
mr what's the what's the dude's name he just won a nanny mr milchek came in and was like was
watching them do their jobs was actually like the actors doing their thing really yeah yeah that's
the shot after but yeah i think that they start doing inventive marketing like that have doom himself pop up
in different places.
That'd be really fun
and cool marketing
to intrigue people.
Yeah.
Anyway,
that's,
we said we'd wrap this up fast.
But we just got so many ideas.
So many possibilities.
We got so many creativity ideas.
And apparently the power went out
and it's Alan Smithy's job.
So Alan Smithy gets to go home early.
Hey, Alan Smithy.
And we continue on.
Your mic's off.
Whoa.
There we go.
Alan Smithy going home because the power
out.
Good for you.
That's what you guys missed.
Patrick de Muzangi again.
Welcome back.
Thank you for your generosity.
Thank you, Patrick.
The Jack Kirby cameo in Fantastic Four made me
cry.
That man created Dark Side and the Fantastic
Four and co-created
Captain America with Joe Simon.
Look at that.
I didn't know he had a cameo.
I don't think he has a
camp. I mean, there's a tribute.
There's a tribute to him.
yeah are you joking jack kirby yes in the movie at that like the very end they make it
explicitly clear after the credits wow are you joking i haven't eaten today i need to watch it i'm hungry
uh no no comment okay i mean yes jack kirby is he's got an
interesting trajectory. Like he, he was at Marvel and I believe he actually created the
Eternals. He was at Marvel and then he felt like he wasn't getting paid his dues. Then he moved
to DC and that's where he like created like dark side and shit. Oh. I don't know. He eventually
went back to Marvel. Oh wow. I don't know his dark crib would create dark side. That's
fucking awesome. He's a very um yeah he's one of the he's a legend who deserves to finally get the recognition
he deserves. Yeah, he does.
Funny enough, did not create Kirby
from Nintendo, though. That's
criminal. No, there was Stanley, though.
That's right.
Hey,
Renaldo Torres, Torres.
I'm trying to get those R-rolls, man.
Thank you for chiming in, being so generous.
Hey, everyone. How do you feel
about DC shows and movies being
Max exclusives? I sub
for Peacemakers' Season 2, and I am loving it.
Watch Superman twice. Should DC
content stream on other platforms?
to hand, heart?
I think it's nice that it's centralized,
but I also think that, I know that we're in the age
of the death of physical media,
but I feel like they should still have that.
I would like some, yeah,
to be able to have Peacemaker
and these other DC shows available to have physically,
but I know they're trying to phase those out.
But as far as them being on one platform,
I think it makes it easier for people
that are trying to follow continuity
and whatnot in the trajectory of that so it doesn't bother me i i feel like it's cooler when it feels
more HBO and less max no like a penguin felt HBO yeah you know like the branding behind that
felt like an HBO show and i feel like that lends us up more i honestly think there's some
subconscious thing of why people took it more serious and why emmese and all that shit like
They won so many awards over the course of its award seasons.
And I feel like it's because people viewed it as an HBO show and not some Max streaming show.
Isn't Peacemaker Max?
It is.
It's HBO Max, yeah.
But I don't, I don't, it was branded as HBO Penguin was.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, technically it's, yeah, it's on HBO.
That's how most people watch it is HBO Max.
Most people watch Penguin HBO Max.
But I don't feel like you view it as a max streaming show.
Whereas I feel like you do kind of view Peacemaker as like, it's a max streaming show, you know, and I think there's there's something with the association and that kind of kicks into the nogging a bit.
It does full HBO because of what?
Supranos is HBO.
So it does have that gritty kind of there.
I feel like they should have a lanterns.
There's such a difference when you feel like you're watching an HBO show versus a HBO max streaming show.
It's so weird because it's all going to HBO max streaming.
Like there's no difference.
It really is no difference.
But there's something with the subconscious of the optics.
This is just my belief.
I feel like maybe most people
who are probably like, I don't really get a shit about anything you're saying, Greg.
But I think that plays some type of factor
when you view something as just some streaming show.
No, I agree with you.
Didn't they say that it's going to be HBO, the Lantern show?
Yeah, because it's on HBO packs.
Yeah.
But no, it is interesting why certain HBO,
why certain things get the delineation between being.
something that is max or being something that is HBO,
especially with it being within the DCU itself.
Like,
why is Peacemaker labeled as a Mac show,
whereas Lanterns would be labeled as HBO show
if they're both on the stream,
same streaming service.
I don't know,
maybe because there's like the DC podcast and all that shit too.
And Penguin is also like else worlds
and had the different association
from coming from the Batman.
Like had nothing to do with James Gunn.
Yeah, but, you know,
but Lantern and Peacemaker in the same universe.
but are labeled as two different things, which is interesting.
Yeah.
Who knows?
I don't know.
I think it's also something like there is that some kind of thing that you know Penguin Airman.
I think you're mine's off.
I'm trying to cut down on the of this headset.
I think there's something to knowing that like something like Penguin airs on television.
Yeah.
You know, like you even if you're not watching it there, you kind of know like this was broadcast,
whereas like Peacemaker is not.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
You know.
Like House of the Dragon.
Game of Thrones are like
HBO. Yeah, exactly.
I would tune into this if I was
home at the time. Even though it goes
on Max at the same time.
Last of Us, HBO.
There's still
some inkling of that like
you've got to be there.
Yeah, it feels like an event of an airtime
versus like when's it going online?
Yeah.
When can I download this?
Okay, well hey,
we got
who's up next,
Reinaldo. We got you.
Ethan T. is back.
Hey, buddy.
And this question is for me.
Question for
John. Any luck convincing
Greg and you both to watch
Better Man.
No.
I mean, we both
would love to see the movie. I cannot
guarantee that it would become a
reaction at any point because Americans
don't know who Robbie Williams is.
This movie did really terribly hear
because people don't know who he is
And it makes me sad because I know what Robbie Williams is, but I would love to see it.
I know Robbie Williams for being mentioned in an M&M song.
That's all I know.
Tyler knows who Moby was, too.
He does the Johnny English end credits music.
Yeah, I don't know who he was before.
Before Johnny English.
But I would love to see better, man.
It's on my list.
You know what drama I'm obsessed with, everything to do with Will Smith's career?
I have watched
way too many videos
We must be doing the same thing
Because I cannot get enough
And I'm like, I just keep watching so much about Will Smith
Any channel that's covering just his recent
Life and Times
What's happened recently with him?
Just like this progressive weird decline
That he's got going on
He likes pretty girls, Aaron
Oh, the song Pretty Girls
He's had AI crowds
One million percent
I have still not even heard that song.
Really?
But I have heard so many think pieces about it.
I have yet to play it.
I have seen some of the, that way.
We were, you catch you on the stage.
I'm on the stage, and there's a stage there with me on the stage.
I pulled the pin out of the grenade when I threw it.
On purpose, on purpose when I threw it.
I bite out more than I can chew, and then I chew it.
I still like his interview.
I love Will Smith.
Like, don't get me wrong.
Like, there's, like, still so much I love about Will Smith.
I just think, like, yeah, his career is, like, fucking bizarre right now.
I still root for him, but, yes, it is a very engrossingly strange life that he currently is.
Yeah.
But, you know.
Like a midlife crisis right now.
Sometimes he's going to act bizarre.
I think he's been having a midlife crisis for a few years because of a very specific incident.
He's been having a midlife crisis for the past decade.
Yeah.
This is in slow release.
uh yes o g carlos uh has this to say thank you for chiming in i'm loving the hunger
games reactions team pita all day every day yeah dude get it those movies are awesome coat yourself
and frosting baby that wouldn't be a good show actually hunger games
i'm sure miss is gonna make it oh that would be so good and you cast a bunch of
YouTubers and TikTokers.
Sponsored by Feastables.
I complain, but if they cast me,
no more complaining.
I know.
When you're going on hot ones, Greg?
I'm not.
I got to be so much more famous to go on hot ones.
What are you talking about?
You have millions of subscribers.
You can get hot ones.
What?
So many people on a million subscribers.
No, we have.
Would you do it first of off?
I don't have a million.
Like, I've really come to a point where it was like,
I'm Greg,
and the real rejects is a company I help run.
like there is it's very it's weird yeah i don't i'm not like i don't go like my youtube
chat me it really is like a a thing so i get weirded out when people are like you built this
and i'm like i i definitely led this company but i wouldn't say i did i build it i i didn't
like single-handedly do this uh anyway you cut down the cherry tree that you eventually
used to build this channel all righty sebastian yunce is back next
movie musical should be in the heights.
Ramos!
Ooh, I'd love for you guys to do that.
Your eye is in the microphone.
That would be fun.
It's a microphone.
I would love to check
that out. We have, you got
you do Sweeney Todd, didn't you?
We did do Sweeney Todd. It was a lot of fun.
I really love Sweeney Todd.
Yeah.
The old deserve to die.
Even you, Mrs. Lovitz.
Even I.
Very sweetly in your yellow hair.
Yeah, people are like
Giant Deft can't sing
To a person who doesn't know how to sing
He sounds pretty good to me
He's been great
He's got a semi-music career now
I do think
His little ward
His song to the girl is pretty creepy
But you know
That was the only part that I was like
You know
God I don't remember the movie
I don't know that song
But what shit
I'm like I don't know what you're talking about
Yeah he's singing to her
Like oh you'll be mine
You'll be mine
And she's like in the window
And I'm like, if you were like a middle-aged dude in New York, this would be way different.
I literally don't remember this.
Yeah, it's the guy who's in Stranger Things, who's like his ward in that movie.
He has the song.
Oh, the guy plays Vegna's in that, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Joanna song?
The Joanna song, yeah.
One day, I'll save you.
I just say save you, I think, like, I'll claim you or something.
Claim you, yeah, yeah.
The one part that made me.
I mean, they're both young.
What was the part that made me laugh?
That guy gets his ass kicked.
That he just immediately goes too well.
It goes right back at a scene of his song.
It's just translated a little funny.
Yellow hair.
I remember there was a lot of yellow hair clowning back in the day.
Oh, yeah.
I like Sweeney Todd.
Sebastian Yunns.
Double feature of a comment here, Sebastian Yunn's
with Lego movies popping up every year or so.
What is a live action movie or series that would translate?
Well, it's a Lego movie.
Human centipede.
Men in black.
Yes.
Human centipede.
Oh my God.
You could connect somebody.
Oh my God.
You couldn't.
That's a really good.
Top of the head.
It's a really good idea.
You can make a non-distirving version of it.
They should make the Minecraft movie into a Lego movie.
Hold on a sec.
Someone must have done that.
They hit the human centipede Lego.
It's got to be on YouTube somewhere.
The Lego centipede.
I mean, people have photoshopped a Lego human centipede like play set.
But I'm like, someone's got to have built this.
was it really that bad
I've not seen it but I kind of want to
your reaction of being repulsed
by it makes you want to watch it more
the first movie is more in your head
than it is on the screen
the first movie surprises you
by being like hey this is the
concept you asked for but it's like way more
visually restrained and
glossy shit like that
I'm like I thought it was like
plenty of disturbing
I was like this is like
plenty gross to be
It's disturbing, but it's not like a geek show where like every, like, it's not like a two-hour surgery and poop sequence.
It's like, it's more like psychological buildup and break point than, and it's shot in a way that's very glossy and very fluid.
Well, every time they get to showing the centipede, which is a good chunk of the last half hour of the movie.
You see the Senate.
It's really gross.
Anytime you see that.
Would you say it was grosser or worse visually than the Terrifier movies?
uh for me personally
terror fire is more like overtly
gory like i know you're gonna start those um yeah yeah those are like
those are like saw um you saw the saw movies
yeah terran i was like terran i was like roxy said
no i can't i'm like terry you watched like 11 saw movies
those are very gross movies like some of them are very gross some of those are
super gross and i would just put terrifier kind of on there okay i mean there's like
one kill and terror fire one that i think is really disturbing oh um it's like the most
famous kill not not the franchise but it's the most famous kill the movie and that one was like
oh my god i don't know if i want to continue this franchise really but but the second movie is when
it it becomes like an actual movie like the there's like a lore and it's like the second movie
movies, like, really good.
I like, I like the second movie, like, as a movie.
Oh, wow.
And I like the third movie as a movie.
Oh, okay.
So, like, the franchise didn't really take off
until the second movie.
Huh.
Do you feel like you need to watch the second movie in order
before you watch the first movie?
No, no, no, you should definitely watch the second movie.
Okay.
All right.
I mean, we will, but I'm just curious for, like...
I mean, I don't think you need to watch the first movie
to watch the second.
Okay.
All right.
get some context at the beginning it helps you should just watch the first movie okay it's cool to watch
the first movie so you see the evolution because the writer and direct me like a little bit of
behind scenes context the writer director also did the makeup and that's one of the cool things about
terrifiers like as visually disturbing and glory and gross as it is there's something in the back
of your head like something weirdly impressive though because like it's definitely like practical
effects you know and it has that weird effect where you're like I don't know why it's also like it's so
disturbing but it's kind of impressive and so yeah and because he knew that his writing and directing
lacked he he he read books on screenwriting so he could make a better movie for the second one and it shows
like it's cool to see the massive upgrade in storytelling okay well I'm excited to see that transition
yeah just power through the first one
enjoy the second one
the second one's still fucking gross and shit
but yeah it's a much better experience
much better movie yeah
heck yeah yeah yeah giving you a preparation
that we were not fortunate
it's okay I know the reputation of
oh god
what the hell
I found some human centipede legos for you guys
how cute how adorable
yeah it's good
yeah that's good yeah hopefully it doesn't get us demonetized no no no it's not it's it's legoes they're for
everybody no matter the context hey who framed roger rabbit got a yellow dollar bill sign it got limited
ads because it said that that baby smoking cigarettes promoted oh my god child drinking
oh what that is an animated baby with a good adult voice in the movie states it's not an actual
baby. Yeah, he's a
tune. He's a to
people wonder why he's censored.
I'm like, that's why, because
fucking YouTube's
manual reviewers or AI
are stupid. What we should start
doing is, is for if we have
enough, like, lead time, we should
literally put the note on screen.
That's what I told them to do for Roger Rabbit.
I was like, fucking do the re-edit and put it on
there. Put the note, yeah, so people know.
So people know, it's like,
this is stupid. Oh, my God. Yeah.
It is idioticracy for sure.
Silhouetted animators here with two questions or comments.
Thank you for being so generous.
Well, the gifted actor who played Polaris reprise.
There was an actor who played Polaris in an X-Men?
Let's find out.
I remember there was like an X-Men show.
Oh, the gifted.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, the gifted actor.
Oh, there's a show called The Gifted.
Yeah.
I never watched it, though.
Oh, damn.
That was like, that was a obscure-ass reference.
God damn, dude.
I thought you're saying the actual
That was like a failed experiment of a show
Wasn't it?
Yeah, I think so.
And then
yeah, the guy who did Fargo
and he's doing Alien
also did an X-Men show
with the Legion.
Yeah, yeah.
I remember the show being really good.
Oh, Amy Acker.
Oh, from Buffy and stuff.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Maybe, I don't know, that'd be fun.
That'd be a cool Easter egg
for people who remember that show.
Definitely do.
and also a silhouette of animator says mayor Luke Cage for season three please please
dude everyone gets to be mayor who works out at my gym really Michael did yeah I don't know
I never him and Sebastian said I've never said a single word to any of them
I've had people say stuff to come up to me really Mike Colter came up to me yeah he came
up to me and I'm like I will not acknowledge that I know you played Luke Cage
but no i i just refuse to i think it's awkward to do that at a gym it's like what if they
like they go there every time and it's like fucking like oh that guy just want to talk to me like i
don't want to deal with i definitely understand that i had a friend um back in like 2019
we went to a yacht party in uh an sdcc and my culture was there in like a bunch of like
other cw and like tv actors and he's the friend i'm thinking of uh not the friend you're
thinking of but a friend that was related to that friend the star
with a w um no it does i know who you're talking i know you're thinking talking i got two names
coming in my mind yeah one with a w and one with an n uh it's neither of them but he that friend
is related to those okay all right um and he was talking to mike colton and kept calling him
luke all he was drunk oh so embarrassing i wasn't there but i heard the account i was like
so embarrassing oh god no shit oh god but uh i love you buddy um and um and
Um, yeah, that's, you know, that is also a fear.
I don't want to be around, uh, someone doing that while they're inebriated and then
them having to correct you like, actually it's Mike, but yeah.
Mr.
Peace works out of my gym too.
Mr.
Beast.
Oh, really?
Yeah, just don't say shit to them.
I'm surprised he doesn't have his own like super gym that he works out at.
I don't know, man.
But, yeah, it's a weird gym.
A bunch of gay guys and a few celebrities.
is what the gym is like
I did one bicep curl
every hour
six three guys
you guys might be able to never deal this gym
for enough deduction
by the clientele
it's okay
Captain Fernandez
has this to say
do you think
James Gunn's success at DC
will convince Figey
to change how he approaches
the MCU
no
I mean I don't know
I can't say that
but the success
I don't know if the filmmaking, but I feel like the marketing, perhaps.
Because I know that some of the marketing wasn't doing too well for the movies prior to Fantastic Four.
Like Thunderbolts did not do very well.
And I think Cap 4 did decently.
But I feel like if anything changes, it'll be how they market their films.
I think the problem is a lot of studios were like,
we got to do exactly what the MCU did and faster and I don't think Feigey would do that
but I do think that if DCU is doing something that they're not doing that is working I feel
like he'd be smart enough to know like we should adopt this part we can learn something
from this but not go let's do exactly the same thing I feel like he would be smart enough
to know to just learn from that I think that's what a lot of people do who are clever enough
creators like we've done it you don't just do exactly what someone else is doing but you might
learn something from what someone else is doing and then to make it your own yeah if he were to
take something from from james gun on the dc what i would want is for him to embrace the weird and
comic bookiness of the stories that they're telling because i feel like in a weird way
superman is like going to the first in a long time superhero movies it's just a straight-up
superhero movie that doesn't need to be some other subgenre to justify its own existence like
doesn't need to be a missed or like a thriller or it doesn't need to be like a some sort of space drama
it just is a superhero film and I feel like embracing the weirdness of like pocket dimensions
and what aim is and like with not turning modoc into like an overt joke but actually just having
modoc I feel like embracing those things could really be something the MCU does all right
we got to make sure we're going through this because we're we're derailing the rest of the schedule for today
Okay.
All right, locking in silhouetted armor is back.
If AOS is canon, then the agents survived the blip.
Agree with that assessment.
That's not a question for me.
That is not a question for you.
But yeah, it would be cool if they survived the blip.
I'd love them to come back.
And apparently, Chloe Bennett said that that one show would be better if they brought her back.
So maybe they did listen.
Charles Flicks, Fix.
I told you we didn't miss you.
I have total access.
I could get access to the creators of agents of Shield.
we're not the creators but the people who ran the show
people who authored so much of it I would
like the people like the little showrunners
like I would want to just like pick their brain
and be like do you know what would you do they came back
because I was you wanted to well and you could probably learn a lot of
really cool behind the scene stuff because that must have been a fascinating time
because that's like the bastard child of the MCU is
It would be fun to
watch all of it and interview
them. That would be a lot of research
for one interview. Re-watch series.
Which I will definitely do,
though, that's the problem.
Shield reactions, let's go.
You should do it.
All right.
Charlie's Flix Fix.
Hey, buddy. We did not miss you
for an elevated
Greg with a little cloud
and plant emoji.
My favorite besides Koi and
Roxy and John. Basically, anyone but
Greg last.
J.K., you know you're my snookums.
This guy's been crushing on you in the chat, hardcore.
I mean, we know Charlie's Flix Fix.
I love you, baby.
Charlie's Flix Fix is a staple.
You got the sexy avatar, and, yeah,
it's really been thirsting for you in the chat today.
Love it on you.
Backup plan, only fans for senior citizens.
Hey.
Get that AARP discount.
Only games.
AARP-O-F.
That is that right, baby.
Captain Fernandez we love you Charlie's flicks fix and yeah you can look at more of Greg Zabbs pictures
Captain Fernandez did you see did you guys see the F4 deleted scene featuring Sue and Mole Man
no yes you like it I did it was very cool do you think do you think it could have been included in the theatrical cut or was it good they cut it
I think it could have been included in theatrical cut I think it would add a more context for why he's cool with with Sue
as opposed to like in the other ones
but yeah
there's definitely worth
to watch
shit
specifically
John's watching it
Monday
Monday
night
when it comes out
on Vigia on demand
Kung Fu hot dog
Batman 2
other villain
I predict
will be Hugo
Strange from
Arkham City
Robin Williams
would have been
my choice
if no one
had used
Strange for
the Dark Night Rises
who would be a good
strange
Hugo Strange
yeah
Zachary point out
he would actually
he wouldn't be bad
no
actually it wouldn't be bad at all
I don't know what was the first person
I'd be down for Evan Peters
down for
hobby of Bardem
oh yeah shave his head
given that beard
Stephen Colbert
as he goes strange
oh Jimmy Kimmel
too
yeah
they'll both be freed up
yeah that's one of our things that we were saying too we agree with you and i that's the one i want
all right cool cool chad mason uh hey guys your positivity means a lot especially now yeah yeah okay
thanks for being awesome thanks for being awesome and spreading good energy
you're welcome people think we're too negative about the mccu now you hate everything
despite all the praise about fantastic four and thunderbolt
Shills. Alan Smithy's here.
Alan Smithy heading home from work.
Happy Friday Rejects. It's business time.
Two minutes.
Make it love for two minutes.
That's it. That's the comment.
Do you know that song?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. It's flight of concourse, right?
Yeah.
Business time.
Yeah.
Also, Alan Smithy is in the chat.
Alan Smithy is in the chat encouraging you to
Stop promoting gun violence.
It was an edgy joke for you there.
I think Business Time was the first song I heard for them.
They were like on Conan O'Brien.
I think that was the song they played.
Oh, wow.
Are they still together?
Do they still make music?
I don't think so.
They did a reunion tour recently.
They haven't been making new stuff, I don't think, but they did do like a big reunion tour.
They were, they were impactful, man.
I even like their show.
Yeah, I love the show.
Never saw the show.
Dude, I think the first one I heard was the robot one.
The humans are.
Yeah, that's right.
Zero 11, zero one.
Zero one.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Thank you, Alan Smithy.
Slightly, and then we'll do our final round of refreshes to make sure no one's lost.
Jared Padalecki for Batman in the DCU?
No.
Apparently, according to the chat, Jared was almost cast in a different iteration of live action Batman.
It didn't happen.
I think it was for a CW show.
That would work for a CW show.
Sure.
I don't think Jared Padalecky should.
be bad man i'm just i don't think so no love him though he's great and supernatural i think he's
like one of those actors i find very charming and i love watching him when i'm watching him but i don't
feel like he would be there's a certain you know range he's in his pocket people who play batman
now are are a very different caliber of talent you know they're they're extreme actors
Yeah.
You got to be able to act in that mask.
You got to really be like a fucking actor.
You know, dedicate yourself.
Yeah.
I think he would commit it.
I think he would do his absolute best.
I think he would commit like nobody's business.
I think he would absolutely do his best.
But, you know, Taylor Lawton did the same thing for Twilight.
He really wanted that, yeah.
He improved.
He could get that buff so they didn't recast him.
Yeah, he really earned that role.
And then it backfired when they kept putting him in soaking wet condition.
with no shirt on yeah and he put it into his contract he didn't want to take his shirt off anymore
is that show still happening taylor lotner vampire hunter did you hear about the urr war wolf hunter
i did not know this was real oh yeah he's gonna be a it's a yeah it's a yeah it's a thing
you can look it up after i know we're best pot next pod we'll talk all about it definitely
well that's all the superchats we did it we did it all right five minute break
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Thanks John for manning down this ship today
Got another long day ahead of us
Yeah
Yeah buddy
We'll see you guys next week
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