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Hey.
How are you guys feeling?
Oh, man.
I mean, that movie lived up to the hype.
pretty well for me. I thought, without, you know,
we're going to answer a couple questions, so I'm not going to go on forever.
But, yeah, I thought this had a really
great grip on its tone,
and it's, you know, kind of a simple,
it's a deceptively simple
movie in terms of plotting and whatnot,
but the performances from
Mason Thames and Madeline
McGraw, terrific, Ethan Hawke,
fantastic use of his talent
and a very creepy
presence on screen, you know,
that harkens to horror villains
in tradition, but also feels
wholly like its own thing
with an actual character behind it, the
changing of the masks and just the way he carried
himself and great
supporting cast really well shot, really well
realized and yeah, I'm excited
to see the second one.
Good stuff. Aaron? Yeah, I thought it was
a really exciting,
really intriguing film. I think
the lead did an amazing
job of
showcasing, you know, the, what it's
like to be both youthful and
afraid, but also brave during the
situation and then utilizing the people or the boys who have been murdered prior to him
to help him escape in a way that he was able to respond to them and the way that they
did certain shots with how they showcase the dead kids and the visual language of how
they utilized their previous experiences to help our main character was great
Ethan Hawk was spooky and haunting and you can tell there's just so much history
to his character that wasn't on display
or that wasn't necessarily
verbalized to us in the film
and yeah I think it's
it was great. It's one of the best films
of that year. Absolutely.
Yeah. No.
Well said. Incredible performances by everyone.
Great story. I really like the
supernatural motif. I wasn't expecting
the film to go there. I think it
lends credence that you can really blend
supernatural and
you know, grounded horror
really work well together.
especially in this case.
So I thought the film did a great job
blending the two.
Mason Thames, I probably mispronounce his name.
The actor played Finney.
He did a great job,
really showcasing his vulnerability
and his emotional arc
where he really had this resilient side to him
just really delved deep into his character
and I like the way we built up to that
throughout the film.
And again, the supernatural characters
that he was interacting with throughout the film
just really led Cretens again
also to the fact that he had to
really go to a place that he'd never gone to.
Yes, he had dealt with physical abuse from his own father,
and then I think that really led him to a place where he could go to.
That character.
Yeah, so.
And I thought the actress who played Gwen was phenomenal.
I think she had a really quick wit with some raw intensity,
and I really thought she stole some, a lot of the scenes she was in.
She was incredible, and Ethan Hawke,
I think he proved in his performance just how chilling he was,
and probably this is actually going to lead into this question,
actually from Jaden Rhodes here.
How do y'all feel about Ethan Hawking, the character of The Grabber?
And do you all think he's one of the better and modern-day villains for horror?
And as I was just saying about The Grabber, I think this really proves that you don't always need to go to overt violence when it comes to villains in a film.
Yeah, he did have that one scene where he took out his brother, of course, and obviously we know what he did to a lot of the other kids.
But we didn't see it.
It was a lot of the things we weren't seeing, just from his chilling tone and his voice, the way he was able to modulate his voices.
really scared the shit out of me personally
and the way he was able to
emote with his eyes
because his face was a lot of the time covered up
and I think that is a power to the level
of an actor such as an Ethan Hawk
and I was really terrified of him
and he spent a spent
he sent chills down my spine
this performance so I would definitely
put him up there in the modern day villains
for sure when it comes to horror
and it was in really
magnifying performance I would say
So I would definitely say incredible job by Ethan Hawke.
Yeah, I think it speaks to his versatility as an actor,
being able to play somebody that is both terrifying and it's weird
because he plays a serial killer that is terrifying,
has an imposing build, yet is soft-spoken,
and does those voice modulations over the course of the film.
And I thought the most interesting thing that his final impression,
that we saw him alive is when our main character takes his mask off and he like freaks out because he doesn't have his true face or what he believes to be his true face and I'm like whoa I didn't know he like that was he viewed that as an extension of him like that's the thing that gave him courage like his like his mad like he was Batman that's his true identity so I think the way that there was some unspoken history of that character and you feel that in his performance and yeah like how you were saying implied violence
can be so much scarier than the stuff we actually see and the fact that he was able to take down
people of different sizes a couple of them were like you know the clown or class heroes like
the blonde kid who like beat up the other people and then our friend with the bandana who beat up
the bullies and the bullies were afraid of him so he was like the guy taking down other kids that
were viewed as I guess the alpha male of the kid hierarchy or whatnot because he wanted to he felt like
a big kid and he wanted to feel like the biggest kid
on the playground, which is why he used
motifs like magic and balloons
and stuff. So I feel like the stuff that
wasn't explicitly on
the page and the subtext of his character
was really interesting. I would
love to like talk to him about this character.
I agree. I think that you could even make a whole
film on his backstory just
to see what caused him to get
to this place where he feels he needs to do
these things. For sure, John?
I don't want that film necessarily. I'm not saying
I need to see it, but you could. It's rich enough
that, yeah, I think
Ethan Hawks is one of my
favorite actors and has been for a long time
and I love that he does have some
propensity for doing horror stuff on occasion
and I think this is a role that is
deceptively
you know, meriting of a talent
like his that is
again subtle enough
but to be like, you know,
you can kind of see how he might blend
in or how he might, you know,
appeal to these kids in some
way even
between the moments where he's more
sinister and whatnot. And yeah, you get the sense
that there's something really up with this guy,
but the fun is you just sort of
observe him in limited fashion
and yeah, he's very
volatile, but he is very childlike
and you can tell he's got some kind
of order in mind or
some kind of idea of what
he wants and what he's doing and why.
And even if we don't know that, you know, he
feels appropriately
like he could be some
otherworldly
skewing entity or just some guy
in a small town who has real
problems.
And I like the way
that contributes to the small town feeling the sort of
there's something unique about the paranoia
of yeah, a tight-knit community
and kids going missing and the sort of
true crime elements and everything is like just
grounded enough but leaves the door open enough
that the supernatural stuff reads
either authentically
or, you know, metaphorically
in an effective way. And yeah, I really
liked his use of the different
faces and the way he performed physically
beyond, you know, his voice, which is also
very distinct, the gravel, the grit, the low
register, his higher registers, you know, yeah, this
really deceptively utilizes so many of his
tools and tricks and it is the kind of role that you could
you could choose to cast anybody here, but I think
it's the kind of role that really benefits from having like a top
notch actor to fill it with so many things that make you
want to see that backstory or curious about it anyway.
I wonder if Denzel Washington would have messed with this Ethan Hawkins Maining Day.
It's a question we should all contemplate.
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Hassanah Ali.
Thank you for chiming in.
When I saw this film, it reminded me of Stephen King's stories like it.
and the book is, this is adapted from a Joe Hill book.
Joe Hill is the son of Stephen King.
So there's an apple falling...
You did mention that, yeah.
Apple's not fallen far from the tree here.
I was surprised to find out that the story
was written by his son, Joe Hill, as you pointed out.
Are you excited for the sequel?
Yes.
I am avoiding the trailer, but the only thing I know
is that it is being compared to a Nightmare on the Street during Warriors.
Three! Yes!
That is my second favorite of the nightmare franchise.
I think the first one's my favorite.
The third one is my second.
second favorite, I would say
West Craven's New Nightmare is probably my third
favorite. Justice for Nightmare 2.
Freddy's Revenge? Hey, I actually, you know what? I did. I dig that movie.
It's 1985 directed by Jack Scholder. They replaced Robert
England for a couple of scenes. You can tell the one in the shower scene
where he takes out the coach. You got the body. I got the brains.
Yeah, no, I still like that movie. But if it's
really being compared to Nightmare in Elm Street Dream Warriors,
I think that's a fascinating thing because I think what that
film uh you know what that film does i think akin to a little bit of this film is there's a lot
of resiliency and uh coming together and yeah i would say that in comparison and um i mean i don't
know if there's going to be stop motion in uh this is the sequel to this but yeah there's so many
things expressly what yeah i'm sure that i'm sure that's the thing but are we in uh are we going to
be in a psych ward like weston hills i don't know are we going to be using hypnosis i don't know but
Whatever the case is...
The answer is yes.
Yes, of course.
It's all.
Yeah, but again, if we've got a group of people that are working together because of the trauma they have faced from this one person or entity, whatever,
I think that's a fascinating way to take a sequel.
I think there are lots of places to explore, so I think that's great.
Again, I love Dream Warriors.
I've seen that movie probably over 30 times, so I'm definitely going to be referencing it many times I would imagine in that second reaction.
So be on the lookout for that, Aaron.
I've not seen any of the Nightmare
and Elk Street movies
but I am very excited for the sequel
I really love this one and I literally
was in a movie the other day and I started
playing the trailer for the second one and I literally
ran out with like covering my ears because I don't
want to get any spoilers but yeah
this movie is great and it's the same
creative team then yeah I'm here for it
I was wondering in my head and I'm like you saw a trailer
in theaters for a nightmare Nelm Street two
Fraser and I'm like okay now I know
now I know what you're talking about
I got you. John. Black phone too. I'm excited for it for sure. And yeah, same creative team, a lot of returning cast. I feel like there's a lot to build on here. The buzz is currently good. And yeah, I think it's really fun to discover that this is, you know, a cut of the Stephen King cloth. And it does have a lot of king-esque things about it. And I feel like as long as they can keep their eye on the groundedness and the nuance of the human side of the story, as well as build upon, you know, the sort of uniquely, uh,
kind of unnerving qualities of
the grabber. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
promise there. I don't think I've seen a full trailer
and so, yeah, the comparison
to Dream Warriors just makes me
wonder in a fun way.
So, yeah, heck yeah, let's go.
It's because, yeah, there's a dock in black
phone. Yeah.
Oh, Kev B, thank you for
sounding the question, Cap B.
Did you catch that Finney might
share some kind of
psychic connection with his sister
and their late mother?
Or did you think the black phone
is just a spooky supernatural lifeline?
How does your take on that change
the way you see Finney's escape?
Interesting, John?
Good question.
I think it's interesting
because I think the movie does a very nice job
and Mason Thames is a lovely actor.
I really like all of the performances
I've seen him give
and I think he sells both in his performance
and they sell in the script
his resourcefulness.
So I believe a lot of the tangibility
of what's going on here.
But I do think it's a nice, like I like that we're mostly focused in on Gwen in terms of that clairvoyance, whatever it may be.
But I would have to imagine that, yeah, you know, something to do with what she has is probably within him too.
He's probably got some element of shine, even though it's not maybe the same.
And maybe that's why, you know, the phone works for him.
And maybe the grabber has a similar kind of thing and is afraid to confront it or, you know, except.
it or whatever, but I think
it's fun that you can
wonder, and I think if you want to take it as a literal
supernatural occurrence, that's a cool
way to look at the story, and I think it's a sweet
thing that the kids band together
to help him, you know,
and if that's, yeah, like an actual
effect of their spirits and his
psychic attenuation, cool.
If it's just some kind of metaphorical thing,
also cool.
But yeah, it doesn't like,
I don't know, it doesn't,
it just adds to the interesting, you know,
flavors of his both
peril at being confined
and his ultimate triumph in escaping.
Yeah, I thought it was
pretty cool
the fact that he was able to talk to these previous
boys who have died.
It's funny because I haven't seen the movie, but
isn't there something similar to that movie,
Lovely Bones?
I never saw it.
I had seen any of. Okay, hey.
I was thinking of Lorraine Gary's
psychic connection with the Shark and Jaws the Revenge.
that's what you know reminded me of but you know but i think that the fact that he was in the situation
and didn't seem like he had powers prior to this or like a conscious connection with
the undead but putting him this in this kind of situation ignited that ability within him
and you know them working in tandem with the dead is what helped him uh sort of escape there now
did they uh at the end of the movie he was like the grabber was talking
through the red phone or the black phone right he was like listening to the kids talk to him
or something like that i think i think so yeah he heard all the voices of all the kids he had
taken out when they say like he can hear it he just doesn't want to like admit that you know
he doesn't want to oh you think he's just trying to like shut him out yeah i think so because
they earlier on one of the spirits i think says like he can hear it he just doesn't want to pick up
he just doesn't want to like confront it oh okay that's what they say you know
yeah i think it's up to interpretation i i mean we saw like things we saw like objects being
physically moved where i obviously made the the patrick suazy ghost references where he could
literally do those things and make the things physically move like that so i think it's up to
interpretation you can view it as yeah he really did have this psychic connection with his sister
and you can view it as it was more metaphorical and you know he was kind of using uh his
this supernatural ability
in his mind. This is
how he interpreted things as
a way of escaping this and
emotionally growing as well. So I
think either way...
Maybe he saw the evidence of previous
tries. And this is what was going on
through his head. Yeah, I think either
way, honestly, is fine of
way interpreting it. I
personally like the psychic connection
with a sister, but again, I don't
think you're wrong either way. It's
subject to your
opinion and I think both ways I think it really hones in and they both balance each other out nicely with the grounded realism of the film like I not for one minute when I was watching this grounded film was I like what the hell is this supernatural shit I didn't question it for one moment is the point I'm trying to make and I appreciated what they were going for and I think they executed Scott derrickson rather and the crew and the writing team I forgot his R. C.R. Robert Cargill thank you really executed nicely on what they were going for
were trying to do because I understood what they were going for and I thought it was brilliant.
So thank you so much, Kebby, for the question.
We really appreciate you.
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reject and for asking the question. We appreciate you. What do you think of the theory that the
grabber was also clairvoyant i've also seen this speculation online before and fully believe it would
you want to see a prequel about the grabber's origins well we know how john feels about a prequel
he definitely wants to see it uh i mean when it comes to i mean he could be clairvoyant and just as
these guys were just saying and just kind of chooses not to accept it and doesn't like you know
that's that's his way of ignoring the fact of what he has done and that's how he accepts you
know, again, just not taking responsibility, basically, for what he's done.
When it comes to a prequel, again, it's not about me wanting to see.
Like I said, when it comes to the overt violence, I like that they, for the most part,
other than the brother, that was more shock value for us as the audience.
I was like, holy shit.
We need one slasher movie kill here.
For sure, for sure.
Which was fine.
That was great.
And was it Max?
Was that his brother's name?
Or what is his name?
It's a bit of a little bit.
Either way, if you go into his backstory,
depending on the effed-up crap
that probably happened to him is my guest,
to get him to a point of wanting to abduct
and do these heinous things to children,
you know, it's either going to put us in the audience
as a place of, again, not justifying anything that he's doing,
regardless of whatever has happened to him
and his childhood that led to this point.
It's either going to give us a place of, again, either a place of feeling empathetic towards him and sympathetic, while not justifying, but giving us a perspective on why he is doing the things he is doing.
So, or just, he's Michael Myers, he's, he's Rediger, he doesn't fear of evil, sorry.
Nah.
He is Max, by the way.
Yeah, okay.
James Ransone from Sincer.
By the way, and he was also in It, Chapter 2.
There you go.
That's why I didn't recognize he had the freaking, the goateeaties.
and what i'm like why is this guy look so familiar i just watched it chapter two so i'm sure you guys
have let me know already in the comments but either way i said you guys have let me know it in the
comments so yeah i i would say look if they do make a prequel with this i would say obviously you
can't have heathen hawk playing the kid you could have the narration be ethan hoc i think that'd be
de age him but what do you guys think you want a prequel oh do you think he was clairvoyant uh yeah
I feel like he probably is clairvoyant and kind of pushing that away and, you know, yeah, kind of like how John was saying.
I feel like maybe I was, at first I wasn't sure because I thought that, okay, maybe because he's close to death, now he can hear them.
But if it was something to the fact that he could always hear them, but just like kind of pushes it down, I would be curious to see a prequel.
I genuinely would see why he is the way he is if he's always been.
clairvoyant is him killing
you know him wrestling
with that relationship of his clairvoyance
yeah I don't know I'd be curious to know
everything about that why he wears the masks
at all you know what is his relationship
with his own perception of self and his face
you know I think that that's some interesting
territory to potentially cross over
that is a very interesting point
you've actually opened up a new thought in my head too
just and then we'll get to you really quickly here
what you just said about you know was
he's so close to death and that's why he was hearing those
voices. Could he even make a case? We were talking
about the aspects with
Mason, Thames, whatever you say, is the name
Finney's character about, like, it
could all be like, you know, supernatural with
his sister or it's just actual motifs
of what's going on through his mind. It could also
be he's so close to death because of like
what's about to happen to him and that's how he's
hearing these voices too. So that actually opened
up. That's an interesting theory and thought
that's making my mind
race a little bit. I like that actually. What
about you? Do you think he's clairvoyant?
How soon do you want to see that prequel? What year?
I mean, like, I wouldn't be like, hey, don't do it.
But, like, anything, you can make anything good if you work at it hard enough and you come up with a good idea.
So, like, you know, never say never. It is an interesting character.
I would, if they made one, certainly walk in with an open mind excited to see them knock it out of the park.
I think the grabber being clairvoyant is a lovely read on that.
And I think you could also imagine then that part of his game is that, like, he's trying to see if he says,
that he tries to discourage him from using the phone.
He's like, it doesn't work, and the kids are like,
oh, you know, he can hear it.
He just doesn't want to.
So part of me wonders if,
because it seems like he wants you to win the game.
It doesn't seem like he's happy that the naughty boys are naughty
and he has to kill them, you know,
and that's part of also what makes him interesting.
And there's a Edgar Allen poish quality
to having the voices of your victims
kind of taunting you in the basement from this,
you know, disconnected old phone.
and you kind of digging this whole deeper and deeper with this fixation.
You have this ritual you have to perform.
And yet it's clear he's a messed up dude.
What makes you say that?
There's a strong case for the clairvoyance,
and I think there are fun notes that you can read as him directly acknowledging it if you want to.
And maybe, you know, there's something about Finney being special in that they can resonate that way,
even though it's never directly confronted head on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it'd be interesting if, like, he had a lot of.
a lot of the same experiences as Finney as a kid,
but because Finney did face these things head on, as you just say,
that's why he was able to really build this resiliency towards it,
and that's what led to this depth with him and this emotional arc,
and that's why he never got to the place where the grabber got to,
whatever his name ends up being.
So it'd be fascinating to see the parallels between them
and where it led to one and where, you know,
the other one got to with Finney's characters.
So you could go that route.
know you know there's a lot smarter writers than me go a totally different route as well but uh anyways
resonance z thank you for chiming in for your horror villains do you prefer a more grounded
and realistic villain or a more fantastical and supernatural one great question how depends on the
execution really um yeah i'm down for either it's funny because we just on the same day a little
behind the scenes for you.
We watched one of the
Terrifier movies in Black Phone in the same day.
Two very different kinds
of villains, even though they're both murderers,
but the way they were executed
were vastly different.
And I thoroughly,
I enjoyed watching both of them.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching
both of them. Yeah.
And I think that
they had two very different takes.
Obviously, one is based in
hyperviolent and in
an element of supernatural, and this one is a lot of implied violence and a lot of just aura, as the kids say, with Ethan Hawks, the grabber.
So it really depends because both sides do it very well, but, you know, I feel like I would sooner, I would sooner watch Blackphone again than watching one of the terrifiers.
Yeah, I don't have never seen the terrifier moves.
I will never watch the tariffire moves.
Oh, come on.
Nope, I'm good.
Start the petition, people.
I'm with Aaron, though.
Change.
It's all about how you execute and how you watch them execute people, I guess, too, right?
But, yeah, I'm...
Look, Freddy Kruger is probably my favorite villain of all time, and we know that, obviously, I don't know if this is a spoiler, but he's a supernatural villain.
I think you knew that.
I think that's...
Okay, okay, okay, okay, so he's got a sweater.
He's my favorite, yeah, he's my favorite personality reasons, I'll leave it at that, so I don't spoil Aaron too much.
But also, like, before the supernatural stuff,
like, there's a lot of grounded realism there with his character.
So, I mean, and also, like, Michael Myers,
there's times where there's grounded realism and supernatural shit, too.
I mean, it just depends on, like, this character, again,
I think, like, there's a lot of chilling and creepy things that he is doing
in his performance.
And, again, without the actual, like, violence, aside for Max,
obviously, we know he took out children as well,
but we didn't see it.
So, again, I think, like Aaron said, it just all depends on execution and how you write the character.
So I'm always for just a great written villain.
It doesn't matter either or.
Yeah, I mean, I love, one of the things I love most about horror is that it is a very broad genre with a lot of subcategories.
And, yeah, I like both.
I think a realistic villain is more likely to scare me in some kind of real way or, or,
make me walk around kind of on edge
rather than a supernatural one
but I love both traditions and it just depends
on what the movie calls for and you know how they
execute it so yeah both are great
thank you so much
oh
Jay Rushman
what a do this movie
does this movie kind
remind of other scary movies
trivia back in
past we used to
we used black play phones
mostly in airports in urban cities
Hey, Jay, what's your favorite scary movie?
Does it remind me of other scary movies?
I mean, you got a kid trapped downstairs in, like, a cellar.
I mean, it definitely feels like Stephen King's stuff.
Yeah, I would say it.
As mentioned before.
In a way.
It has that sort of...
Aside from the floating.
Well, it has something that a lot of Stephen King stories have, which is it has, like,
your supernatural motif, perhaps, but it also has, like, a coming-of-age quality,
and it feels like...
some kind of small
New Englandy town.
So
and it did, I mean,
the same creative team,
it felt somewhat like sinister in tone
without as much of a heavy
supernatural element.
There were parts that reminded me
for sure of Freddie Kruger.
I won't go into the details again
to spare Aaron here.
I don't think you could go into any details
that are really going to ruin anything.
No, but I'm just, I'm just...
It's all good. It's all good.
The spring would slash this.
I appreciate the
The Springwood Slasher, you know, I'll just leave it at that.
I'll say that before.
That's not a spoiler.
You're good.
Okay.
You won't remember by the time you ever see these movies.
Maybe me and Coya watch, but I don't know if Coy...
We are so late in almost to Halloween.
My guess is you'll probably watch them for sure next year.
Yeah.
So I would say if you remember Springwood Slasher by then and you consider that a spoiler, my bad.
What about you?
Does this film remind you of any...
Oh, what was that movie called?
the i can't remember sorry go ahead it's killing me because it's like i i know that in my database of
films there has to be another movie where it's about somebody who's being held captive
and then it's about them trying to escape but for the life of me i can't remember a single one
but you know it's my my memory tells me it's reminding me of something but i can't think
it was a single example but uh i thoroughly enjoyed it and
aaron is going to comment on this video one day yes he will let you know
When Black Front 2 comes out.
Yes.
Thank you, Jay Rushden, for the question.
We appreciate you.
Wow.
Actually, we will do a trivia really quick.
Quickly after this.
But last question.
From Clayton Crook.
Thank you so much for the question.
We appreciate you, Clayton.
Other than this, any other Ethan Hawk performance worth watching,
I think the only two things I can remember him being is in Persian Moon Night of all things.
Yeah, one of my favorite Robin Williams films.
Oh, Captain, my Captain, directed by Peter Weir in 1988, the year after Robocop,
which Kurt Wood Smith was in.
Dead Poets Society.
I would say Ethan Hawk really came of age in that film.
His performance is phenomenal as Todd.
He stood out to me pretty much over all the other kids in that film.
He was incredible.
I would say go watch Ethan Hawk in that film if you haven't.
So, yeah, Dead Poet Society.
What about you guys?
And Training Day, if you haven't seen that.
Oh, yeah.
Go check out a reaction to that as well.
One of my favorite trilogies in all of cinemas is the before trilogy.
Yeah, I think we share that.
Yeah, we can join to answer before sunrise, sunset, and before midnight, all three are so lovely, so beautiful.
Okay, I have to watch it.
But to shout out a couple others, I think he's really lovely in boyhood.
I think his vibe in that movie is so wonderful and so lived in.
There's a sci-fi movie that he stars opposite Sarah Snook in called Predestination, that I think is sick.
Gattaca's good, too.
I like Gattaca.
I saw that in high school, but I don't remember it.
I just know his ex-wife was in it with him.
I think he's good and sinister, and I would say, too,
it's not one of his best performances necessarily,
but I just want to shout out the movie Daybreakers
because I think that's a pretty sick take on a vampire story
that stars Ethan Huck as well as some other people.
But, yeah, it's hard to beat the Before Trilogy.
Mr. Erroron?
No, I'm looking at his...
He's looking at his IMDB.
Filmogs, you're doing what I did.
I've got to make sure I know every movie,
so I pick the right answers for me.
This is my filmography, guys.
Okay.
Boyhood. I don't even remember him in that Total Recall movie.
I really liked you in the Avengers sketchread.
He was in the Colin Farrell Total Recall?
I guess so.
I still haven't seen it.
He's in the Northman. That's crazy.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember him in that.
Oh, I liked him in that movie.
He's on an episode of Reservation Dogs, too.
Let's go.
He's done so much stuff.
I mean, he's terrific everywhere he goes, pretty much.
I need to watch more of his discography.
Wow.
His discography.
He's got some music out there probably.
He must have some music out there.
He seems like he was.
I love his daughter on Strangewood.
thing. She's amazing. She's got music too.
Robin, right?
Robin.
Maya Hawke plays Robin.
She's very good.
She is an incredible character.
Yeah, before movies are great.
They're so natural and they're just
full on
conversation pieces and beautiful
locations and, yeah, I don't
spoil it for Andrew, but yeah, very
very good. But Freddie Kruger does show up.
This is true. Yeah.
The third act.
Thank you. I will.
Before sunrise, Freddie Krueger's
get-cha is with the full title.
One, two, Johnny's coming
for you. Thank you, John.
All right, thank you, Clayton.
Last thing here, it's a trivia from
Kev B. Thank you, Kev. We appreciate it.
As a kid, Scott Derrickson dreamed of being trapped
and receiving urgent
mysterious phone calls that offered hope
and cryptic guidance.
That's cool. That's fascinating.
You know what that is fascinating, but that also reminds me
a little of West Craven, but he didn't have
a dream. He saw a man across
the street that was wearing
the Freddy sweater
and really scared the crap out of him
and I think he was a homeless man
and I believe that's how he got the inspiration
for Nightmare in Elmstree if I'm wrong of course
you guys can correct me in the comments section
so it's interesting when of course
James Cameron had a nightmare vision
and then he saw in this nightmare when
I think he was in Paris he was really broke
at the time and the Terminator rose out of
the fire and you know you saw that in the
film towards the end of the first one in 84
so it's interesting how a lot of these
directors either come up with something they
see in a real vision or in a dream
and then that's inspiration for their film
I love that. Well, it makes me wonder what the
interplay was with the book.
How much is parallel to what
was written in Joe Hill's book or, you know,
what they collaborated on in adapting
this. Yeah. Do we know how many
books that there are for the Black Phone?
I think it might be just the one.
Okay, so the second one totally original.
Couldn't tell you. I don't even know what the second one's about.
I don't want to know.
Oh, honey, I'm not even going to read the comments on this thing.
It's like Ethan Hawkins in or if he's not in it.
don't know, and I want to go in completely blind.
Absolutely.
But yeah, this was really good.
This was really well done, really conscientious.
It had a great sense of tone, and it was really permeating.
You really felt the kind of paranoid, desolate, lonely kind of anguish that everything had.
It's a short story, apparently, the Black Phone, as written by Joe Hill, so I imagine they expanded it together.
And, yeah, just like a lot of really nice down-to-earth characterization, great performance.
It shouts out, too, to Jeremy Davies, who played Terrence, the dad.
He was great.
He was like, that's a role that is so thankless and could easily be just, especially
in a Stephen King adjacent thing.
One trope of King is like, you know, sometimes, yeah, sometimes parents or bullies can
be, like, ridiculously awful.
And this guy was like, yeah, he did some real bad things, but you also really understood
the tragedy of who he was as a person.
And, like, yeah, that really stood out amongst a bunch of other standout stuff.
And the music, too.
I thought the music was really nice.
Oh, yeah, the synthetics that they were, the composer was doing.
It's fantastic.
It really made you feel that, dude, and they really visually captured 1978.
I was like, watching Halloween 78 from the visual cues.
It was awesome.
It really took me back to that time.
It really, like, the aesthetics and the costume design.
But you say it was a short story, so I got to imagine if Peter Jackson directed,
this would have been a three, you know, three-part film.
Oh, they're getting there, don't worry.
Black phone three is around the corner.
Yeah, no doubt.
Aaron, any final?
No, this was great, and I look forward to reacting to the second.
Agreed. Very well said. Scott Derrickson, everyone who worked on this, great job.
This is one of my favorite horror films in recent time.
Great job. Ethan Hawke, terrific performance. Everyone who was in this, really terrific performances, so this is what horror films should be like.
Anyways, guys, thank you so much if you stuck around with us. Let us know what you thought of this film.
Is this one of your favorite horror films in recent times? Are you excited to see the reaction for the second?
film what did you think about the second one obviously no spoilers because just in case
either of them check out the comments we don't want to know what is going on i'm not going to be
there but take care be safe and answer that black phone if you are in a dark mysterious place
take care dosus