The Reel Rejects - THE BOYS 4x8 Finale' Breakdown & Review!!!!

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Season 4 of the boys. If you're about to listen to this on Apple or Spotify, go ahead and leave some stars on us, some starlights on us. Coy, Gregory. I want you to fight it out for the top stars. What did you think, sir? I had a really interesting time with that episode
Starting point is 00:02:51 because it was like really good TV. It was really a beautiful culmination of where we've been. It was an insane setup for season five but I think that was the first time I really struggled to not feel like it's too real like I have I have my own like you know the rest of the season has been scarcely prophetic but I feel like you know this week has made it a little different like I don't know I just I really like I'm sweaty and like I you know that's 80% the show but I think 20% is also just like it's a really intense they shot this like a year ago like it's just it's just so crazy that you know
Starting point is 00:03:27 Big Nostradamus energy. Yeah, like when The Simpsons does it, it's funny because it's animated. But like when it's like a superhero show in live action, it's, I don't know the show's haunting now. Like, I don't watch Idiocracy anymore because it's not funny anymore. And like I feel like this was the first time it felt like it wasn't as funny because I don't like our world anymore. That's a fair point. I can feel the writers sort of projecting into the future and it is eerie as to some of the things that they landed on G.
Starting point is 00:03:59 How do you feel? I thought that was awesome. It was pretty great. That was incredible. It was great episode. Sister Sage, Sam. Fine ass woman right there. Agree.
Starting point is 00:04:14 God damn. I knew she was going to come back in some way. And then she just has that final card. I love that so many people were like, you can't write the smartest character because inherently writers couldn't be able to end. Then I was like, well, obviously she was pulling the And then I was still impressed
Starting point is 00:04:28 enough she was pulling the strings. Yeah, you forget about it. And I love that she comes into at the end, clearly, like, part lobotomized having a good time. Yeah, she's happy to be there. She's vibe. I'm like, she's clearly taking a break. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Oh, like, oh, my God. Yeah, that was awesome. That was awesome. It seemed obvious. I thought they would reserve Newman's death for, like, early on next season. It was obvious she was going to die. I didn't expect it happened this season.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But, yeah, I thought there were some, like, really strong choices. I think usually boys, their seasons end with like, this chapter has concluded. Now we will go to the next chapter. And this one feels like a part one to what, or season five will be a part two. Sure. I feel like it's like a two-part season. And so I think where they've ended off here is a beautiful, compelling, haunting cliffhanger.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. I thought it was so eerie. And there's so much to talk about. Yeah. There's so much to get into. We've got to start with something just super specific. John, you start to suit the first specific thing to specify. Well, I mean, I guess the first, the biggest portent of the next season, I guess to me is sort of what happens when you have a potential for three generations of this on the playing field all at the same time.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You have Ryan who is clearly only going to be more messed up by this. And then you have Homelander who is, you know, toward the. zenith of an ascent right now and then you have also the potential I'm sure they teased us with Soldier Boy because he's going to be unfrozen again in some capacity and that to me
Starting point is 00:06:09 is a comp is the is the those are the keys to Homelander as a person as a character now with so many people removed from the past as of this season with his like retribution coming down on so many people and with Ryan having had this experience
Starting point is 00:06:25 now basically coming in for again one last sort of bonding moment with butcher or something like that and then coming to find very unceremoniously that you know the adults are still maneuvering up above his head like there's just they're they're really great at kind of honing in on the fact that like they're really good at the nurture aspect on this show because yeah I'm like with Ryan I don't know I'm counting on you know storytelling to make him the most benevolent of the three but like every time I reassess I'm like Like, there's, I don't know if there's really a possibility for this kid to end up as a good person character. Well, I think, I think he'll be a rogue agent. I don't think he's going to be like, like, oh, which side am I on? I think he'll be a little bit of a wild card in the mix versus, I don't think he's going to be like a pure homelander allegiance or a butcher allegiance. You know? And I think the ending, too, like driving home, like being a president is a puppet position.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I feel like that's more like, what was the title of this episode? The assassination of the present or something? Assassination run or something? Yeah, so I thought it would be a little bit more topical toward a very recent event of like, oh, I might reflect that more. But to me, what this really demonstrated is kind of the bigger problem. And I've stared clear of talking, you know, there's a lot of politics happening, obviously, right now. And I've stayed clear of, like, being very specific about it. The one thing I will say, which I'm sure will get people a little bit upset.
Starting point is 00:07:54 At the same time, I think it's very true. So it's my opinion that I feel like now more than ever being the president doesn't ever doesn't feel like a respectful position to be. I feel like it used to be special. Like growing up, like even like George W. Bush, Republican and Obama, Democrat. There's something like the president is speaking. Now it just seems like a silly thing to me. And now more than ever, when you look at like Biden speak, you're like,
Starting point is 00:08:24 He's clearly not running the country, you know? Sure. There's clearly some villain. He's clearly some puppet, you know? And I think that's what this episode just drove home more for me as something that feels like really top. We've always kind of like suspected, but I think now more than ever it feels like, yeah, it's, it is just some like puppet position with bigger agendas than they actually tell the public. And so I love that commentary being weaved into here. and when I thought it would be a little bit more about, you know, assassination stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:56 As soon as they were like, the soft tissue, I was like, like, an ear. I was like, how Nostradamus were there? Oh, my God, yeah. Well, and, oh, goodness, I had a train of thought based off of that and now it might be drifting from my mind. I have a thought.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Do you get it back? Go for it. I want you to get it back. If you didn't get back, I got you. Well, just that, yeah, like with a, when it comes to the president, it makes it very clear. I thought this episode was going to spend more time doing like
Starting point is 00:09:22 we're recreating January 6th. Yeah, yeah, I thought we were going to spend a lot of time in imagery that looks and feels like that and this is like an episode that takes place largely indoors in different like bunkers and things. So it's like very far removed from that
Starting point is 00:09:38 but yeah, it's that idea that like the president sure is some kind of figurehead but yeah, also it's become very clear. I think just in the public eye that like yeah, big whoever has the most money, whoever has you know, the biggest interest and the biggest means to throw that around are the people who can yank the ropes of the presidency and whatever
Starting point is 00:09:56 else. Yeah. And yeah, I think they well illustrate that here, Coy. So being the president is a show now. That's what it is. I think this episode really helped me like cathartically go through Huey's journey
Starting point is 00:10:11 because it's always, this whole season's been beating the crap out of Huey in so many ways, mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually. And then I love that the payoff was it was a little rushed but they only had how many episodes they had I wish like in the same episode where he had the reveal he also had to come to the conclusion which maybe that's how he handles traumas he has to like cope but I really like the super idealized concept that you know violence isn't what's going to solve the violence like I really liked the
Starting point is 00:10:41 concept of forgiveness and not being desensitized by murder and blood and the hope that the way to get better is to actually get better because you're never going to get better by just killing more. So as an idealist, I used to be. Like a little childlike piece of me came back and went, remember, we used to believe. And that was nice. Like, it was nice to remember that I had hope. So I really enjoyed, I liked Huey reminding me that I once believed in us. Yeah, that, yeah. And the place that, I don't know, that's always kind of an effective moment in fiction of any kind, especially
Starting point is 00:11:17 audio visual fiction when a character is like been through so much violence that they come out the other side sort of and they sort of accept like yes this is a violent world and we will have to deal with this but when we can we ought
Starting point is 00:11:30 to make the example and try and choose better than that try to choose above and beyond that. Because the whole season was about the boys not choosing that and it was like more and more the line kept blurring and I think it's kind of my Superman thing right? Like if you have no ideal
Starting point is 00:11:45 to look to what are you? You can't ever be Superman. You can't ever, like, that's the point of Superman is he's better. He's supposed to be aspirational, not inspirational. It's supposed to be something that we strive for, not able to come close to reaching, but that's above. And if the heroes, as real and grounded as everything is, if they are just causing death, then what is the goal?
Starting point is 00:12:07 What's the end? How do we ever find something worth aspiring for? It should be, again, aspire, not inspired. There should be some great goal. So as real as a show can be, I think there's a show. should also be like an idealized end. And I like that, you know, as unrealistic as it is for Huey, it is a beautiful message to have something to fight for.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Because if there's something to fight for, then you're a nihilist. And I think in your teens and your 20s, nihilism is beautiful. But I think that growing up is realizing that nihilism can only get you so far, because without hope, there's nothing else to fight for. And I thought that was a really beautiful moment. Well, I think they, they drove home the differences between. One of the commentaries of this season has been about violence,
Starting point is 00:12:46 which is interesting for a show. that seems to embrace the humorous side of how pulpy the violence can be. Even in this episode, the violence can be so extreme. And they show that with, like, the deep in this episode of watching how far he's gone when it comes to violence. He used to kind of hesitate at these actions. Now he celebrates Noir's boner. Now, exactly. Now even noir, a guy who's been, he's been influenced in this direction, watching Butcher succumb to the violent side on him when he's been leaning more
Starting point is 00:13:17 towards the angelic conscience side in himself, then ruptures the entire plan that they all set forward, you know. So I like that they show, they're visually showing you the destructive nature of what violence causes. I think as an episode, it's just a really good episode. Like it was incredibly tense. Yeah. It had surprising, like the moments of humor were very surprising.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And I love when you get down to even immediate stuff. of like messing with Huey's relationship with Starlight. It's a married man and, you know, Koi being engaged. It's like that would probably click with us a little bit of how hard remember. We're just like, oh, God, this is so awkward of like the freaking, the uncomfortableness of when the truth comes out. And I even thought the way they wrote Annie and Huey's interactions with each other after the reveal was done and she was in a safe place, like those responses to me were
Starting point is 00:14:15 very, those were very human responses in a larger than life science fiction scenario. It was very still like, these responses from both of them and Annie's feels very much just, of course you would feel all these conflicted feelings and have these judgments being placed.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And Huey would be there being like, I know I thought it was you, but I still technically am the one who cheated but I didn't mean to because I thought, you know. I would have liked one moment of someone checking on Huey though. I would have, because I understand where she was coming from, but I don't love that Huey went through all of that and didn't have anyone to turn to.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I would have liked Mother's Milk checking on Huey. I would have liked someone being like, hey, you've been violated as well a lot also. Like, he literally went through three episodes of just like, Huey deal with this. And like Annie was the one that checked on him with his dad. And then Annie went away, and now he's had fresh hell unleashed upon him.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Everybody's like, he'll take care of it. He's a man. Yeah, I agree. I don't think Annie would have been the one. No, no, but like Mother's milk or someone. And I think that plays to a larger problem with the boys Is beat up Huey Is that
Starting point is 00:15:20 Granted, before I say this I will also say I didn't read the full interview It was just one of those quotes going around Clickbaited Greg What are those quotes from Kripke That I was like, I'll say if this is true This is kind of a problem
Starting point is 00:15:38 Is that thing about When talking about someone was interviewing him asking about the assault that Huey indoors in the show and he was and the response was like oh that's a bleak way to look at it we just thought it was funny you know see that makes it and if that's true again I haven't read the article but if that is how they dealt with it that does feel like diminutive to his experience and therefore that's why they ignored it whereas if they'd actually been like yeah bro you good like I just wanted a moment because when it happens to women in this show they obviously take it they treat it with a sensitivity right you know versus like the stuff
Starting point is 00:16:13 with guys, which is kind of been a television medium problem for a very long time. It's a cultural problem. And women deal with an exponential increase of that happening. I just think that there's also, we've seen it since the show deals that happening to a man. It would have just been nice since it is the,
Starting point is 00:16:29 you know, an opportunity for them to look at Huey. Yeah, yeah. And so I think that is something to consider. I want them to write whatever the hell they want to write. I do think that it's okay to sometimes go, but there's something a little bit flawed in this. I think it can be funny.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I think it can simultaneously be funny and awkward, but also you could something realistic at the same time. That is a very head trip emotional experience to go through because you were robbed of your proposal. You've been intimate with somebody who's wearing your other's skin-like. You were so much. You were violated. At the end of the day, you were sexually assaulted.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It was like, to say cheating is. And emotionally, like, to say cheating is the wrong word. You've had your reality violated in multiple different. ways and one of the most special moments of his life was robbed of him and no one went you good yeah that was why like as someone who recently proposed i was like i can't imagine having that moment taken from me and no one's like how are you handling yeah i mean to me i guess it kind of felt like one of those things that would get clipped for time because we did do so much across this episode like from where we started to where we ended up did i just shoot a whole brand deal
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Starting point is 00:19:00 G-fuel gives you the laser focus and endurance you need. Power up and join the G-Fuel community. Check out the link in the description box and get yourself some G-Fuel today. you won't regret it. I just think it allows for people to be mad at Annie's character, which isn't fair. And then it also allows for people to feel like Huey didn't get his time, which isn't fair.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So like a two-minute scene with Mother's Milk would solve both of that? Totally. I mean, like, that's my only note. My gripes throughout the season, if any, have largely been those kinds of things where it's like, oh, man, I would have loved to have spent a little more time with this character or developing this thing or being like a little bit more intimate about this scenario or whatever it is. but I mean, again, they've had so much ground to cover and they've been covering it pretty well.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I don't know if I would say this is the most graceful season in terms of some of the interplay between just character stuff versus things that advance like the greater machinations of the plot and all that. It's most ambitious season. I think the season like covered them and like covered the most ground as a pro and a con. Like what you're saying, but also what they were able to do
Starting point is 00:19:59 at the very end they're making Gen V suddenly. I think about shared universes for a living. And I was still like, oh, right. Like it was such a special moment to see. see those characters for a post-credit almost. Well, and they're really good at getting at what kind of jars and unsettles me about the whole
Starting point is 00:20:15 kind of political spectrum is that, like, you have, like, Homeland and Butcher are two polar opposites who are willing to go to similar extremes to secure some kind of, you know, lifestyle they believe is under attack. And I feel like between those two poles, you
Starting point is 00:20:31 have, like, you know, all sorts of shades of gray and variance and yeah, different lines of violence and different lines of violence and different lines of how like interpersonal respect like there's so many debates you can look at out in the world and online or wherever else we're like if you remove the specifics like people are doing the same thing they're just believing in a slightly different or sometimes very different ideology but like the behavior and the human back and forth is like kind of the same and I feel like that's a big driver of the mess of everything and I feel like they're good at encapsulating
Starting point is 00:21:02 that mess across this show and especially during a season like this that is so like pot about to boil over i wish grace had more screen time this season that is uh especially if you're going to kill her off yeah i wish we had more connection back to her i agree yeah um remember ashley yeah that we ended up her like getting powers and like yeah it worked i just wish it was a little later in the episode so it felt cliffhanger not just like dot dot dot dot yeah the whole grace thing felt like i i wish a lot of that had had at least more components especially her just coming at Ryan like I gotta tell you everything right this second it felt like a guest star they had to book for a day like it felt like from an LA's show time like business perspective was like
Starting point is 00:21:44 we got a guest star we get the actress we got it for one hour like it felt very all right use yeah I wish the shit about that scene was just like I mean I get it you're desperate you're thinking irrational you're like there's a ticking time there's a literal ticking time clock there was already been an attempt assassination on the president like it's I so I there's I think a lot of the time you like things I I don't even consider I don't even like bother to critique it in my own head because I'm aware of the ticking time clock in the situation and characters are getting emotional and saying and sometimes saying things they shouldn't be saying and that's part of being a human being it's part of being a character is being
Starting point is 00:22:23 flawed and in that moment though um I do I do I do kind it just bumps me out there to get more time with her and when Ryan does step over her that was very eerie of like oh damn he's not like what did I do he's like I've made my choice I have I have a path yeah like he was like it was like he was examining like oh how do I feel about this I don't feel that I thought that was really good acting on his part because throughout the season we've seen redemption and then slipping redemption flipping that was like the last slip and now he's slipped yeah he's made it he's chosen a path but damn dude that was that's harsh and all that information like you just it's like race just in an attempt to get him to get to their side has probably converted him to full villain
Starting point is 00:23:05 I also want to give credit to Carl Urban's performance this episode. There were so many moments where I was like, oh, this is the best acting I've seen from Blank. And, like, Carl Urban, I thought might die. We talked, like, episode three and five about, like, does the season end with him dying as a cliffhanger? And then when they opened the episode of him in the hospital bed, which we got tricked, just like, Ryan got tricked.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I definitely thought maybe that's how they do a, you know, this is important. And then I love that once he embraced his parasite, he looks so healthy, look great. care of business. I like them solidifying that Jeffrey D. Morgan is just the, he's the parasite within him.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, it's like very... Because then the camera angles were a lot, like, I think it was you that said like, oh, he's just doing Jeffrey Dean Morgan now. Like, they even shot it.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like, they'd been shooting him. Yeah, that was that upward shot and he like, oh, he's doing the bit. Well, and that almost thematically matches, uh, uh, the shifter almost in a way.
Starting point is 00:23:58 It's because, yeah, it's like, you let over and give it your memories and you let it kind of have like it, I'm sure it just dug through his brain. It was like, Yeah, this is the most opportune avatar for me to use to, you know, venom you essentially. I also love that like the brokenness of Butcher got to be like, well, Ryan's bad. I have nothing to live for.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I love that was the catalyst for him embracing it. I like that he'd been fighting the parasite metaphorically and literally. And then Ryan going, he's like, well, yeah, we kill him all. Like, obviously. Like this is, I have nothing left but violence. And you see the darkness in his eyes because Carl Urban's great. And as Butcher, he's still got to say goodbye to Huey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And that father's son. speech on the phone with the titty bar like the steakhouse was so oh and the anthony star okay so everybody talked about anthony star's incredible episode where he just took out his childhood and the cake but i think and like not to say that wasn't like transcendent should get emmy but for some reason that walk out from the studio i was more scared of him than i've ever been and when he stopped in the light grabbed half his face and he like just was like of course i considered that that acting was so powerful and terrifying
Starting point is 00:25:06 and inhuman. It's like he's looking at you. He's looking like right down the lens in that moment. It felt like everything I've read about people describing his acting. Like I was like, I feel the fear.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Oh my God. Anthony Star. That was incredible. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, like it fascinates me because obviously
Starting point is 00:25:22 homelander is very, is still very homelander as of now and kind of as homelandery as ever in just how, you know, kind of, pulled around by his various warring emotions and faculties and whatnot. What makes me curious is where Ryan's going to land because it certainly seems like he's on a path more toward villainy,
Starting point is 00:25:43 but I don't necessarily believe that path leads just right back to chumming with Homelander, which is almost like scarier because now you have like a third entity, potentially even more nihilistic entity because like, who can you trust and who is, he's got no role models whatsoever. Yeah. And then, you know, just a little, things like I really enjoyed getting, I mean, Kimiko and Frenchie have been always a highlight of the show spiritually for me. And I'm always a little, you know, there's so much greatness that we get to appreciate. So I'm not sitting here being like, ah, it's ruining the show. But I'm always like,
Starting point is 00:26:16 ah, man, I remember when we used to get a lot of their story together, which I do miss some of. And I mean, there's a bit of a, I feel like some of the stuff that came up with her backstory is still left a little dangling as well here. And we had the whole thing where Frenchie goes away, but then we undid that because we didn't really spend any time with his more. there but like them coming back together here and solidifying their love for three minutes while it is part of this yo-yo that they keep going on
Starting point is 00:26:39 at least in that moment was very satisfying I hope season five they just keep them together I hope French doesn't go to prison I hope he doesn't discover drugs I hope he doesn't well something was whispered into his ear so he's following whatever command oh right yeah so he's going to do some evil stuff I just want them to be happy
Starting point is 00:26:56 for one minute and her screaming oh yeah her she finally got her voice back I didn't even know so in the moment Yeah, that was a new thing. Oh, I didn't notice. So you just said it. Yeah. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all the things. You're screaming after it. I was like, yeah. I was so overwhelmed the motion. I didn't think consciously like their sound after her.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah. I was, I was so in the moment. I didn't notice this little John pointed out. Good call. I didn't know this moment. And, but I do think this was the least interesting Frenchie and Kimiko were was this season. I feel like they, not that they went down to grade. It's just compared to everyone.
Starting point is 00:27:31 else's story somehow Huey's story became more interesting than like Frenchy and Kimiko's like I kind of felt like a lot of it was very repetitive and rehashed from what we've seen of them from
Starting point is 00:27:45 previous seasons. Their final moment together getting the kiss I really loved and they've each had moments isolated moments and scenes. I'm talking about their overall story in the season that's been the least interesting to me that they've been here as characters. Yeah and they're such
Starting point is 00:28:00 great appealing performers like I love watching them and it feels like with MM because MM you know you have a similar dynamic where it's you know the push pull between him and his family and their ability to live harmoniously and at least in the season I feel like they replaced what
Starting point is 00:28:17 you know they did a little bit of that but they replaced the rest of it with his enlarged role in the grappling with being the leader or not of the boys whereas yeah Kimiko and French you don't really get that and I feel like Frenchie going to prison is something you could have done something interesting
Starting point is 00:28:32 with in some variety and I mean certainly Kimiko goes to visit him he doesn't want to visit all that stuff but yeah it almost feels like we could have done something more befitting of these two great performers with the time because yeah I don't know that
Starting point is 00:28:48 that is something that's like still stood out to me that plot threat of having him go away and then immediately bringing him back and not really doing anything there and that's something that I hope the last season can do is make so that all of our core characters who we've traversed this whole messed up journey with have some really defined, you know, set of stakes and things to do. Because, yeah, it's like it's been really nice having Huey sort of back as one of the most engaging characters with some of the most, you know, heartfelt storylines and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And then, you know, seeing the ups and downs with butcher and seeing him trying to reconcile his, you know, heart side with his, you know, more just sort of physical voracious side, all that stuff. and then the array of soup things we've had. I'm curious to see what happens with Firecracker because, I don't know, she's on the edge and she's got the worst sort of end of the stick with Homelander now. Ashley, obviously, is there anybody else with a prominent line of...
Starting point is 00:29:49 A-Train, but that's it. I'm excited to see him. A-Train lived through season four. He's off the radar now. He's okay. He's doing okay. They made us love him so much. I thought it was an inevitability. I thought dude was dying every time we loved him.
Starting point is 00:30:00 more. I was like, oh, they're doing with the movie trope. They let him live for us to love him enough to die next season. Yeah, and butchers headed out into the cold. He's the only one who's gone away. Man, that was a really good finale. I think I know it was good because I'm like, struck. Yeah, and it's going to be
Starting point is 00:30:16 on, I can tell this season, this episode, it's going to be unfolding in my mind well past this immediate moment of processing. I do think I'm going to stand by the opening of the season was rocky and it got better and better. I think the first couple episodes didn't quite feel I see where it went, but they didn't quite feel like they were as
Starting point is 00:30:34 directionally. The momentum didn't feel like it had a single direction. And then once the momentum of the show started going, it really felt cohesive. And I love the way it landed with the occasional flaw with some timing issues. And I agree with the franchise story. But overall, I think this series got, I mean, the season got better and better. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, gang, that's it for now. Join us again in a couple years' time. If there's still a place to join us in and if there are still stories to be told on television or streaming or otherwise leave us your thoughts on the episode on the seasons a whole in the comments down below
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