The Reel Rejects - THE BOYS Season 5 Episode 7 REVIEW – THAT ENDING LEFT US SPEECHLESS!

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Starting point is 00:03:30 Guys, Greg, Coy, I'm going to come to you first because you have the most trouble experiencing emotion. I do. What struck you most emotionally in one of the more emotional boys episodes? You know, Frenchie, like, that was one of the better TV deaths I've ever seen. Because they really manipulated all of our emotion to have a bunch of false. leads of who was going to die. And we're at the penultimate episode. So like arguably that was maybe that might be one of the more impactful deaths because I imagine there'll be a lot of death in the finale. So to have the episode end in a way that, you know, you kind of teed up a lot of potential

Starting point is 00:04:14 deaths. I thought Ashley was going to bite it. I thought at any point, Huey might. They gave a lot of, I mean, they had that great speech for Mother's Milk. They did a lot of the things in writing where they give a big moment and then it could be the last scene for someone. So I thought it was really effective in its emotional manipulation that like there were five misleads and then Frenchie gets you know his own last beat but it's the it was the sound design and the silence and the sobbing and like the emotionality of Camico and it's from a character who was silent for 90% of the show so having her speak this season allowed for that like the whole arc of her learning English allowed for that to be like

Starting point is 00:04:58 more emotionally devastating like her being audible and the whole episode you know it's one of those things where good writing is in hindsight you see it all like you know the talk of love and him bonding and sister sage like they did all the right things

Starting point is 00:05:12 to cue up how that was going to be extra devastating so yeah that was a really effective death I mean that's a character we've had for seven or eight years and a bunch of really fun like comic moments like the goggles again and like how they were able to make those little things I also just want to

Starting point is 00:05:28 give some love to the Mother's Milk speech. I think that was my favorite Mother's Milk moment of the show, like of all five seasons. His name is different in the comics. The reason he's called Mother's Milk. So that was a really cool way to Is it something like gross in the comic? Yeah, so

Starting point is 00:05:44 to make it sentimental. See like the guy that Jamie Fox plays in that one it's more depraved and you know, it's kind of the equivalent of a dick joke kind of thing. Whereas this was like really emotional and very heartfelt. So I really like, this episode kind of gave us, obviously, the end of

Starting point is 00:06:00 Frenchie, but it also gave us origins in a way for Mother's Milk and a bit more context to butcher. Because butcher in the comics is like, you know, the military background and stuff, but we've never heard a lot of that. Like, obviously, Jeffrey Dean Morgan in a little bit, but that was like the most context we've been given. So interesting to have the penultimate episode of

Starting point is 00:06:16 two origin deep dives and then the death of Frenchie. So the boys got a lot of time to really like contextualize themselves. So now I'm definitely worried more people are going to die. Yeah, they are letting the stranger things. Kids die this season. It's great. Yeah. Gee, what had the biggest emotional toll on you this episode? She didn't eat the taco bill. She didn't eat whatever that burrito on how hungry I am

Starting point is 00:06:38 My mom be so mad at me. I'm still hungry thinking about it Well, good news is there are a few rounds so it's trying to get a taco after it was a few takes too so how much does they waste? Yeah Well, I mean that's a So it's interesting question of like what else would it be such an obvious answer isn't it I guess it is all right what are you compelled to talk about a theme going here but why okay so what else would take the cake what what would top the demotion what do you think we're headed toward now that everything is where it is or talk about frenchie or just share your thoughts on french you just say what you want to say whatever it is start wherever you are

Starting point is 00:07:28 I have a harder time with TV deaths more than most people. I go so hollow every time. If it's like a goodbye or a death, I tend to go very hollow. There's something about TV specifically that does that to me, more than movies or shows for some reason. It's like how I am in real life death with someone I'm really connected to you.

Starting point is 00:07:51 You spend all that time. Like when my dad died, I didn't cry for like the first day or something like that. It took me a while. It's something just happens where my wall, like, It's just like this empty. It's the, I guess that's what shock is.

Starting point is 00:08:03 I guess that's what shock and denial is. Like, this isn't real. This isn't happening right now. Yeah. Because I think there's more of like a lot. That's what it is. I crack the code.

Starting point is 00:08:12 It's a, it's a longer lasting relationship in a TV show than it is with a movie. You know, even if there's like multiple movies is not compared to like the length you commit to a television show. So there's this feeling of like, hollowness that like washes over. over me and so yeah it was a really sad one especially in hindsight of like this they they set up a lot of these characters like this is this their death speech is this their death

Starting point is 00:08:38 moment so they do a lot of that here and it seems like a lot of signs were leading towards frenchy dying this season I didn't think it would happen though in this way like it there was nothing it seemed like he white died this season I did not think it would happen actually in this episode surprisingly and with the way how he dies is for someone else's like desire like she she gains something that she wanted but it was at the sacrifice of himself so it is love you know a greater thing they wanted it for yes it was a beautiful it was a beautiful send off and it only more emotionally motivates this final episode i've had a lot of like anxiety and headaches lately and uh today is no exception for that

Starting point is 00:09:29 And there was like thoughts that were interfering in my brain a little bit because With just managing a channel, you can't escape some of the noise and some of that noise has been about how a lot of people like fucking hate this season for some reason And I don't know. I haven't like dived into like the super specifics honestly and so some of that was like interfering in my brain when I was watching this episode because I was going like well, what is it that people don't really like about this? I don't know it's not even like the political shit and maybe that political shit is the thing that's like bleeding over and they're making it about other stuff stuff I don't know but apparently people the main common word has been filler has been a lot of she's insane this season has been so full yeah I feel like it's been like mainly character based stuff and we're dealing with modern society like people are dumb as fuck that's where it feels like some of that is is coming down to because I was like wow one of my favorite episodes of this season perhaps the series people were like total filler and it wasn't like there was nothing filler in there the one with

Starting point is 00:10:27 the multiple story yeah I was like wow this is this is a really like a real like fucking thing that people keep saying about this show and uh immediately so like when i'm watching like a great scene where i'm hearing about like butcher's backstory and seeing how more butcher's backstory and how like yeah it's there's all these things about what makes butcher butcher and jeffrey d morgan's confronting him and and telling this true story of him and it's like you you reframe last season where this guy was a was a was it was a was an advocate for the butcher that we know where butcher's mind reframed him to be that when that really wasn't the case he was another version of a of a of a of a

Starting point is 00:11:05 hughy in some aspects right and I'm like I like that like I find that rich and then my mind's going there's a bunch of people are complaining about this so that starts like interfering with a already anxiety racy thought mind and mine and so yeah it's like it's just been like a weird experience and sometimes I wish I wasn't pervy at all to any of that noise and I don't see search for it just sometimes gets in there and uh you Yeah, so I was like really, I really like still like this episode. I think it's very character motivated and haunting. I like.

Starting point is 00:11:37 So when Jesus was being tortured, cool. Oh yes, yes, yes. When Jesus was being like, so they, they call it like, um, like this whole crucifixion was a bunch of stages and like part of the first stage is, it was the, uh, public commiliation and then the whipping and then they put like, uh, they made thorns, a crown of thorns and they put it on his head and that fucking hurts. To mock him. You put a thorn on.

Starting point is 00:12:00 A false king. It's like cuts into you. So it's a false king. It's a humiliation tactic of it. Saw that in that Mel Gibson movie. So it becomes the symbol of the pain and sacrifice, you know, on behalf of our sins. I see how that relates to the homelander. So then the homelander thing is like, oh, this is not the poet.

Starting point is 00:12:21 And also false king. Also, like that's got layers. The total perversion of what the concept is. Yeah. Why do people that like Homeboy wear him dead on him? It's a symbol of sacrifice and a reminder to look out for your common man in a similar fashion. Okay. Well, his death is the thing.

Starting point is 00:12:43 Because he died for our sins. So because of Jesus, we can now go to heaven and such. Yeah, that too. But like if people's kids get killed in a school shoot and they wouldn't wear like an AK on their neck. well they haven't set up a church around that yet very good questions these are fair questions there are other things you could wear it's just I was wondering if the symbolism had like

Starting point is 00:13:06 because symbolism is obviously so powerful and important and like the cross is so interesting as like a I feel like people wear it as a reminder of the love and sacrifice and the call to live by that you know example people also use like crown of thorns it's like an exer like a Johnny Cash song I wear those crown of thorns like yes I am the king of this, but this is I'm suffering.

Starting point is 00:13:27 But yeah. Nine Inish Nails, so. Oh, yeah. Wrote it wrote it first. Johnny Cash took. Did he say, I don't think nine inch nails says crown or thorns. He says crown of shit. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:36 Oh, you're right. Johnny Cash made a Jesus seat. Because Johnny Cash is very Jesus. That is fascinating because I never, I never would have noticed that. Yeah, all right. All right. Men and Black doing his thing. Sorry.

Starting point is 00:13:47 We went, we went astray. John. Yes. Yes. I like. John, what was the most emotional scene for you? So did you find Frenchie filler death? Good?

Starting point is 00:13:58 Did you like all that filler? I was going to say, I mean, like, you know, the Frenchy death obviously is like a centerpiece thing. But this was an episode with multiple dimensional emotional moments. And my favorite was probably the little mother's milk monologue personally. I really liked that thing between him and Starlight after both of their struggles with the reason to try at all and why. And especially when you're being unreward. Like, then that's part of the whole Jesus. things like to do the right thing even though it's probably going to be very unrewarding and very

Starting point is 00:14:29 difficult and you're probably going to get spat on for doing this so like you know the m m thing that if they really brought that around from something like silly and obscene to something yeah like very sweet like a sign of like i persevered and you know how great i felt when that bird flew off i was like yeah it's really beautiful and like i had expected to get more emotional in the first frenchie scene when he's like you know really professing his love or expounding upon love to sage and i'm I was like, oh, man, Anand is emotionally in tune this episode. And then that was the moment where I was like, oh, my God, I'm getting emotional. And I don't know what.

Starting point is 00:15:01 And then, of course, the Frenchy thing, although I think the thing that gave me the greatest rush of emotion was realizing this universe's adherence to having all telepathic characters bald-headed. They all in the same look, all bald, which makes me want to go back to the wall because I'm like, I bet they put an Eric Kripkeye face up there somewhere just to be cheeky about it. I was like, if you could show up in the background is one of these guys. That's very funny. It probably is like antenna. It throws off. Yeah. Like a TV static.

Starting point is 00:15:28 Like I would, that's one of those silly things where I would kill for just a one off line. Maybe there has been one. And I'm just forgetting now about why they all can just not do hair. But yeah. And then Soldier Boy and Homelander and him just wanting to F off and, you know, be alone. And, you know, him bottling him back up. Fascinating. I like Homelander's freaking theme park.

Starting point is 00:15:50 I felt for the GenV kids. That scene really kind of did feel. meta in a way because it felt like they showed up on the boys and they're like cool your scenes done they're like what we've been hyped up you told everyone to watch a freaking show we're not going to participate in this episode and then you also mentioned like wait what we're not even going to continue our own show so it's nice to see the two of them and i'm glad that they get to do the whole like we will found the little refugee camp that logan brings x23 to you know that'll be great so but yeah uh this this i don't know it's fascinating because

Starting point is 00:16:24 I've thought this is one of the stronger seasons thus far. Yeah, me too. First and last are to me the best season so far. Yeah, I would agree with that. And I feel like this season for me has returned to a sense of focus, which is ironic if a lot of people are complaining of filler. But yeah, I don't know, especially the way things are moving. It just feels like there is no more time to waste and like shit is just going to hit the fan.

Starting point is 00:16:48 And now there feels like a different kind of danger. I lost a little bit of the danger in three and four. and now the danger feels tangible again, going from like the A train death at the top now over to here. And these moments, I like that they're still able to get me in positions where I'm like wishing characters would choose better

Starting point is 00:17:05 even though the whole point is they just cannot help themselves. Ashley, like, how sad. I feel like Ash is going to live. Ash was going to live and be punished to be alone. Dude, the deep... The deep... The deep is... It was so...

Starting point is 00:17:17 So sad. Dude, Samuel Jackson is the shark. I can't believe it took three lines of dialogue till I clocked it, but I was such great celebrity voice cameo. Like that is so perfect. Yeah, yeah, that was really, like again, shouts out to all the deep stuff because it's like, it's so cringy and painful, but like commitment.

Starting point is 00:17:36 So funny. Chase Crawford, like to commit to that is, you know, good, good work. It cannot be flattering to be that guy. But yeah, here's hoping the GenV kids get to help out next time. We get a dual soldier boy, Kimico Blasterooney. One episode left of the boys. See, that's a weird thing is this felt like a really good, really, to me, again, very focused

Starting point is 00:18:00 season with a lot of momentum and I can sense a finale coming, but at the same time, I do have that feeling of like, shit, how are they going to cover? What is going to cap off this world? Yeah, because I mean, in an hour. The V1 is the highest stakes. And obviously this episode is just building to a giant finale. But do we know the runtime? I don't.

Starting point is 00:18:22 I know it's getting a theatrical release, which makes me very happy. So it's got to be 90 minutes. Yeah, I mean, they're getting theatrical and it's sold out in minutes, which makes me happy. It doesn't happen. I'm really curious how they can wrap up as much as they have. And also, if it feels like it's the end or if it's the end of the boys. Like, is this going to be a thing where we get a prequel show with Soldier Boys or something where it's like GenVie was going to be post the boys?

Starting point is 00:18:47 You know what you mean? Soldier Boy goes back in time. It's definitely going to be post the boys. So that's what I mean, like, it might not feel like an ending of the the universe goes back in time to put the stones back that's where vaught rising begins and it's like a big old or a boris and he's nomad boy he's no mad boy he's no mad because someone else has the shield because he doesn't use it since homelander fixed it put it back together because he doesn't care about all this shit right there's no more seven

Starting point is 00:19:10 that thing with oh father pretty chilling oh man that opening song was so funny watching they keep doing this to me where I'm like are you gonna realize or allow yourself to think this no Probably not. They're putting down Jesus in order elevate home. So funny. Well, and that's something

Starting point is 00:19:27 that I feel like, you know, that is going to test the boundaries of a lot of viewers, even beyond your political leanings. It's like, they're laying, it's weird,

Starting point is 00:19:34 they're laying down blasphemy at the same time the characters are like cooking people for blasphemy. Yeah. Well, I think that's part of what, it's either conscious or subconscious, but I think a lot of people's aversion

Starting point is 00:19:44 of this season is maybe they just feel slighted. And so it's like externalizing that in another way. Like, I hate the writing. And it's like, I feel persecuted. Like there could be a feeling that

Starting point is 00:19:55 maybe people don't even realize what they don't like, but I think filler is wrong. Like I don't understand that as an actual credible argument, especially with how dense every episode has been. Yeah. But I get how like character oriented. We've barely stopped to have a weird sex interlude.

Starting point is 00:20:14 And even when we do it's brief and something else is happening that's important. And it leads to character moments. Like even the weirdest sex cat dog thing, to a cat-dog fight exactly or even like yeah it's like if you have like a little moment here then like this is the boys yeah like people were bitching about the um that's one one one image i saw going around about the um sorry i'm totally blake on the dogs and terror

Starting point is 00:20:34 terror on terrors uh moment and while we while we were here being like that that would have been stronger or like taking a different perspective people like what could this image of homeland or a filler i'm like what's fucking boys it's the boys fucking around that would what the season of boys is every moment of the boys his constant just fucking momentum forward. That's boring. You need the feeling of this to make, the highs won't feel high if it's all high. This is also

Starting point is 00:20:59 comedy. Yeah, it's a satire. And having terror made so many comic fans happy and it's also a character that's like, we haven't had that perspective. And we even talked about the nuances of the boys getting to act as themselves because the dog POV. So even that element wasn't filler. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:21:15 The animal was a mistake. It's an interesting line they get to walk because from what I understand, they are not just doing the source material, but it seems like they do enough to... They are definitely not doing it. They've deviated so far. Him sitting behind, like, and we both had a moment in the White House where that was exciting because that is the end of the boys.

Starting point is 00:21:34 But that's about all this episode has that feature to the end of the boys. It seems like they have an interesting line that they're able to walk with lacing in stuff where it's like, if you know the comics, you're like, oh, cool, they don't not care, you know, but, but yeah, I understand people, some people like the show better than I. I oh, I like the comic and I'll love to Derek Robertson, but I think everyone agrees. 99% of people think the show is better than the comic. Comic is very, this is not a, it's of its time. It's kind of an off-putting comic on.

Starting point is 00:22:03 I think Derek's a producer on this, so I think Derek is very happy that people love the place TV shows. It has almost no heart. Yeah, it makes this look like a warm, fuzzy, like Nicholas Sparks. Sure. It is so cynical and angry because it's a reflection of. a reflection of cynicism. Like, it's a turduccan of cynicism. It is a turducan.

Starting point is 00:22:24 We got a turducken in here. We mentioned the Impala in here. So many things for us. I like this episode a lot. I definitely feel, like I don't know if it's a hollowness like Greg was describing, but I definitely am having a hard time. I think that death hit me enough that I'm having a hard time being cogent. Like, that feels nice to be impacted so much.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Love does. It disrupts you. It's unpredictable. You're mourning Frenchie. I know how much we love the coin name drop. But it's about. the show and I think what's really beautiful about this show is every time I've met a member of the cast or gone on a set visit or any of the things that are professional, this cast is impossibly close.

Starting point is 00:22:59 So I think there's something to like the human experience of seeing these, it's long form, but these people have grown together at a such a level. And so like you feel that chemistry, even in like little subconscious ticks and things. And I've seen Tomer Capone with Karen Fukahara as like someone protecting her going into a party. Like we went to a party at Comic-Con And like there was a line of people that got a little aggressive. And I saw Tomer like be defensive of her. And that really struck me in my mind of like they're so close. And that was such a comic moment of like, he he, French,

Starting point is 00:23:31 he protecting the female. But in life, I was like, man, that's a really beautiful moment of how a cast can come together. So I think there's an element of like the human part of what I love about playing a character for 10 years. And also the exaggerated nature of the boys and the exaggerated nation of satire, allowing these, these emotions. to feel heightened even. Like, I don't think a dead silent sob could have worked season one with like out us connecting to them

Starting point is 00:23:58 to the sedge level. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, props to them for ending on that note. Yeah, it's powerful. Let that breathe, let the silence ring and, uh, and all we can do is wait with baited breath till next week.

Starting point is 00:24:10 Do you have any name drops you need to work in G? No. All right, cool. Well, drop your names down in the comments. Drop your finale predictions. Nope. No, all right. Well, actually, I got a name drop question.

Starting point is 00:24:24 What was the, what was the Asia? Oh, yeah. I learned all about this just yesterday. I've been muted. Well, that's all the time we have, folks. Sorry, Matt Damon will be on the show tonight. Asia Rogers. Shout us to Asia Rogers.

Starting point is 00:24:40 Asia Rogers. Oh, yeah, we did it. Born again flight attendant and Asia Rogers. I just wanted John to experience the Asia Rogers type. That was a whole deep dive into the context of that. I really want to shout out Ryan Ford as a saxopherson episode. Ryan Ford was absolutely amazing. Loved Ryan Ford's work in this episode.

Starting point is 00:25:00 Ryan Ford, you know. We only, as I'm saying, like, I met Ryan Ford. We went to a party, and he was really protecting the trumpeter, Rudy Ray Kwoku. Oh, yeah. At a, you can tell him they play together. And then pretty soon, Mark McKay, the guitarist and bassist, Dwight Cameron, they were all around Ryan Ford. And Tionni Bertrand, who was the onlooker, isn't part of the. the band but as someone named Keanu he is a wind over the mountains oh yeah that's who you

Starting point is 00:25:26 want to observe Rebecca Bauer who is unlocker number one was like get coy away from me he's a creep she was gonna drop my name and yeah Rebecca Bauer let me talk about you let me tell you how you're back and get billing over Keanu what dumped her number one it's because Keanu was a good enough guy that he insisted oh he's like excuse that's very keanu well yeah it's a Keanu thing to do anyway uh Comment, your name drops and we'll see you for the finale. Next week, people be well.

The Reel Rejects - THE BOYS Season 5 Episode 7 REVIEW – THAT ENDING LEFT US SPEECHLESS!

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