The Reel Rejects - THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH & THE WARDROBE (2005) MOVIE REVIEW! First Time Watch

Episode Date: January 19, 2025

THE WHITE WITCH COMETH!! Visit https://play.tacticusgame.com/ReelRej... & use Promo Code HELLOJAN to get 2,000 gold, 50 Blackstones Available until Feb 1st!! The Chronicles Of Naria Full Reaction W...atch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thereelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/thereelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ The Chronicles Of Narnia Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review for the original adaptation before the Greta Gerwig Netflix one! John Humphrey and Andrew Gordon from Cinepals journey into the magical world of Narnia with their reaction to The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe (2005), directed by Andrew Adamson (Shrek, The Prince of Egypt). Based on C.S. Lewis’ timeless novel, this beloved fantasy adventure brings to life iconic characters like Lucy Pevensie (Georgie Henley, The Sisterhood of Night), Edmund Pevensie (Skandar Keynes, Ferrari), Susan Pevensie (Anna Popplewell, Reign), and Peter Pevensie (William Moseley, The Royals). Tilda Swinton (Doctor Strange, Snowpiercer) stuns as the chilling White Witch, and Liam Neeson (Taken, Schindler’s List) lends his commanding voice to Aslan, the noble lion. James McAvoy (X-Men: First Class, Split) delivers a memorable performance as Mr. Tumnus, and Jim Broadbent (Harry Potter, Moulin Rouge!) appears as Professor Kirke. John and Andrew react to the film’s most iconic scenes, including Lucy’s first journey through the wardrobe, Mr. Tumnus meeting Lucy, the terrifying confrontation with the White Witch, Aslan’s heartbreaking sacrifice at the Stone Table, and the epic final battle. Whether you’re a longtime Narnia fan or new to the series, this reaction explores the magic, emotion, and spectacle that made this film a classic. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 that and then go into another fantasy realm where they're in over their heads on this. But in this situation, it's like they're the savior for this place that's basically been imprisoned by the ice. What's her name? It's like the ice queen. Yeah, the ice queen or whatever. Tilda Swinton's character, who I thought she did a fantastic job. So, you know, putting them in a situation like that, I thought like I love that they came,
Starting point is 00:02:25 you know, they did just such a great job as characters of like, understanding like hey we're in a really tough spot but you know we're going to go to the call of duty and i thought they all had some great arcs especially edmund just because he had so much distance from his family in general and that's what led to i know we kept making the whole joke of the uh the turkish delights and all that which obviously that was a part of it but also was the distance it was at first he does just sell sell them out for some sweetie no i know but obviously it is turkish delights but it's also because he has such distance from his family's He's not even thinking about them as well. So I do love the arc, though, that he learns, like, embracing his family and, like, you know, they're very strong as a core together. And I think that's, that's really sweet and beautiful. Like, just whether it's blood or just people that you embrace in your life, when you work together as a unit, like, you know, you can accomplish anything. And I think that's a sweet sentiment in itself.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I think all the kids did a great job acting wise, especially, I mean, all four of them great, but especially, see, that girl had to do a lot of crying. and she really sold it, I thought, as well, especially without her handkerchief. That's a tough job to do. She had the broadest range of emotional, yeah, circumstances to carry almost among the kids. Yeah, and again, this is just a tiny baby gripe. It's a fantasy film, and, you know, it's based on a book. So I'm not griping on it too much, but I was a little curious how Peter knew how to do the hand-to-hand. comment. I know the sword maybe gave him a little bit of his ability, but I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:04:02 he's really good. Where did he get all this training from? But having said that, it's just a little bit of a gripe. It's a fantasy film. So, you know, I just, you know, it's suspense of disbelief. You know, I wasn't like thinking the whole time, like, this is ridiculous. But it did, like, I mean, I liked also ground films, even when they are, when it is fantasy. And it was taking me a tiny bit out of it. But again, like, I was enjoying it in the moment, but also that critical side of me like, I just even know how to fight like this. But again, I'm just a minor grape. But overall, I don't think that's an unfair grape.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I don't remember exactly how it's been ages and ages since I've read the book. But I don't fully recall how fleshed out that element is of like, yeah, you are going to like physically have to join a battle and like what level of rising, you know, to that occasion to be studied throughout the book. but it is something that I did think about here was, you know, especially with Peter when, yeah, you're watching him literally like command the army. You're like, oh, yeah, where did you pick up your eye for strategy and, you know, like, what is, what are your orders here based on? Like, it's not an unfair question. Like, I think the movie does a good enough job with its pace to make it so that you're not thinking too heavily about that.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But I think, you know, for all of them to some extent, you could argue that getting to the final battle, you know, if we added anything else to this movie, it might be something like that, you know, that sort of confronts the fact that they are stepping into a literal battle, you know, a literal battle zone and that they are going to have to, like, rise to that occasion. And certainly they have their, you know, totems and their, you know, the special items that are bestowed. on them by St. Nicholas, but even then, you know, yeah, it's like you could head can in it and say that like, oh, these items are enchanted and thus it fills in the gap. But I feel like it's a fair enough gripe to ask sort of, yeah, how did they rise so effectively to this occasion? Or even when Edmund, I mean, you know, like we almost never witness Edmund fight anybody, but he gets that, you know, fatal blow on her staff there that certainly, which is another one of the those things that's like in the moment it's edited, you know, nifty enough that you don't
Starting point is 00:06:26 get pulled out, but you are sort of like, oh, I mean, you know, she seems certainly much more experienced at combat. So I don't think these are unfair things to know. But in regards to Susan, like, we actually saw her practicing and firing the bow and arrow. So it was like, okay, when she made that show, I was like, we saw her practice. No, but I mean, still like, I know it's only one or two shots that they showed us, but still we saw her practicing. It's like, yeah, I'm not saying you need to spend time showing us, but I was just curious in the moment. and was like how do you know how to fight like this i mean it's good maybe he trained when we weren't watching in terms of like before during the war or something i don't know there was just
Starting point is 00:07:01 no line of dialogue i don't get that sense i don't get that he would have had any training i'm trying to come up with the defense john i don't know oh you don't have to i mean like no i'm just saying like yeah i don't think there's nothing in the movies that suggests that he would have any sort of sword in combat experience up until this point really other than just the fact that he has to be the one of his siblings to grow up the quickest, certainly, and has to kind of be de facto dad now for everybody. And then Susan, too, what seems like just by the way the movie articulates itself, to a slightly lesser degree, has to fill in for mom now, you know, essentially.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But I don't know. I think that that's a fair question. It's an interesting prospect, this whole movie in general, because I feel like, you know, there are, what, six or seven Narnia books, and I feel like this is often the one that is, adapted the most. And certainly, again, having that experience from childhood of reading these, you know, you sit there and you wonder like, oh, how is the adaptation going to stack up? And it is something with this where I do feel like you could have made this story two movies. Like as much
Starting point is 00:08:07 as we do that thing now where it's like, oh, the last book in any novel-based franchise has to be split into two. Like, this is a movie that you could have conceivably done. And you could, I could imagine a version of this that works really well as one movie and there's a lot I think does work about this but I could also see a version of this that is like two movies that maybe lives in some of those questions a bit more
Starting point is 00:08:32 and New Zealand. Okay sure so we got Los Angeles we got New Zealand. I was like I'm sorry I didn't mean to catch up I was like looking in the background we were watching this I mean I love the locations that we were shooting but I was like I've seen Lord of the Rings a thousand times my favorite trilogy of all the time was like this background
Starting point is 00:08:48 is like it's giving me Lord of the Rings five. Sure. Oh, well, yeah, and this is certainly, because what, this is coming after the, at least the first Peter Jackson movie, right? The first one was 2001, second one, 2002, third one, return of the king was 2003, this is 2005, so I'd imagine
Starting point is 00:09:04 they were filming this in 04, so like right around the time. So at least, yeah, as this is in production, there are at least a couple of the Rings movies out and I'm sure that partly this was spurned. Like, you know, the Narnia books, I feel like do they're they're not quite written with the same sensibility as the Lord of the Rings books
Starting point is 00:09:23 and they're not aimed at necessarily at exactly the same demographic but there is a lot of overlap in terms of who is reading these books who they're kind of aimed at in terms of like yeah what type of stories you enjoy and and yeah i can certainly imagine the sort of uh the the you know the the zeitgeist surrounding Lord of the Rings probably had a lot to do with this adaptation coming out at the time that it did. And I feel like, yeah, there are certainly those production values that you can trace back there, certainly, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:56 the sweeping, which I mean, a story like this, you obviously want to have those sweeping epic landscapes, but certainly I think post Lord of the Rings, just New Zealand, becomes the poster child for that vibe. If you want that vibe, you're going to New Zealand. Yeah, I'm for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But yeah, I mean, this was an interesting one because there was a lot I enjoyed about this. It's a weird one because it's like I think there's a lot that could have gone wrong here. And there's some stuff that I think could maybe have worked a little better or maybe been a bit greater fleshed out. And I think it comes down to the fact that these books are written in a way that is more accessible to young readers than I would say a Lord of the Rings book is. And so I feel like you do have this odd kind of balance you have to strike because something like this is epic. And it does
Starting point is 00:10:47 have like grand battles and things like that that, you know, do require some level of intensity. And I thought that they, especially in that sort of finale battle scene and some of even just the other moments where characters are being, you know, drug away and imprisoned, like they did manage to capture some of that very immediate sort of camera work and that intensity that can communicate when, you know, you're relatively bloodlessly even in the case of this movie, in the thick of battle um you know there are certain things that are stitched together with greens green or whatever but you know this was one yeah that i think at least had some nice production values and a really good cast assembled um and i mean yeah it's like the the question for me is
Starting point is 00:11:31 sort of i think the kids journeys is really lovely in a lot of ways and uh i like the main ensemble generally although i guess i would say that yeah in the world building and in the adventure of it you know you do i think maybe miss a little bit of the actual individual journeys of them rising to the occasion. I feel like the kids and their collective growth feels like something that might be fleshed out greater in, again, a two-part movie or a longer movie, not that this necessarily needs to be longer. So, yeah, it's like I think there are things that could have maybe been greater fleshed out.
Starting point is 00:12:08 However, you know, again, for a movie that is existing in that epic fantasy realm, you know, not too dissimilar from Lord of the Rings but with the burden of being a bit more youth accessible. I feel like this is still pretty successful in that regard, you know. That's kind of how I felt watching. I was like, this is like the youth junior, Lord of the Rings type of
Starting point is 00:12:30 film. Just not as well flushed up, but having said that, I still really enjoyed it. And I had a great level of emotional depth as well, like when I thought as, and by the way, this is the actor. Oh, James Cosmo. There you go. Yeah, and when I thought Aslan...
Starting point is 00:12:47 I've pulled him up so many times. And when I thought Aslan had passed away, you know, I was crying. I know people are going to say, well, Andrew, you cried everything. Yeah, but I was because I actually feel it, I'm emotionally invested. If I'm not emotionally invested in a character passes away, I'm not, I'm not just going to cry to cry. It's not just because I'm trying to do something for the camera. It's how I, like, I have to feel it, and I have to be emotionally invested and care about the characters. And I really loved Aslan what he stood for.
Starting point is 00:13:15 that he sacrificed himself for a kid who gave himself up or betrayed his family for Turkish delights so I mean like there's something to be said about that that's that I mean yeah and even in those early scenes he doesn't quite realize what he's getting into but you can also see the folly of the fact that yeah he is sort of the most and but the way but the way he was defiled yeah but the way he was defiled in that scene with aslan and like they were cutting him up when his hair and then it was just, I just, I felt Yeah, it's harsh. I mean, that, that, that breaks your heart a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And also
Starting point is 00:13:51 too, I really loved a lot of the transitions, the wipeaways, they were really done in a very meticulous and satisfying way I thought as well, too. What did you think of the transitions? Oh, no, I mean, there are a lot of really nice little visual flourishes like that, yeah, either wiping out of something or like they would do a lot of really snappy cuts from one sort of sound or
Starting point is 00:14:10 visual cue to the next seen as a punctuation. Yeah, I mean, you know, I thought this had some nice pace, some nice tone. I forgot all about that sort of prologue and the fact that, yeah, like this time around watching it again with quite fresh eyes for the most part, I was picking up on some more, some other themes because, yeah, it's like, you know, it's no happenstance, I don't think, that you go from, it's almost reminded me of the Wizard of Oz in a way, in that you go from this immediate prologue of,
Starting point is 00:14:41 oh, we were probably witnessing dad in the war, essentially, and then cutting to the ground where the fallout is happening, we see the kids and why they have to make this exodus, and then, you know, from there they are thrust into a new world, this, you know, house with this eccentric old guy who lives there, who, you know, oh, you're not supposed to go talk to him. And then from there, yeah, they transition into the fantasy realm and are forced to kind of learn and understand the complexities of this world
Starting point is 00:15:13 and why it begets a war and also why to pick up arms and go, you know, risk life and limb on behalf of the people who are being, you know, who are being made the victims of tyranny at the hands of the witch, you know. And I thought Tilda Swinton did a nice job with that role because, you know, there's a lot of ways you could do that. And I felt like she wasn't doing too much scenery chewing. But I definitely believed the more, I believed the range of her performance in that, you know, when she is being a bit endearing toward Edmund at first, you know. And threatening. She's scary.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, yeah. And I like the way that at first, you know, you're kind of like, ooh, you know, she's giving you these sweets and she seems to have this sort of motherly tone. But then very quickly she becomes sort of curt and sharp. And then the next time he sees her, it's very clear that, you know, she is, you know, just using him. she's very self-serving. She's only keen toward flattery when it directly behooves her to do so or to offer that. And yeah, like the way she kind of creates
Starting point is 00:16:20 this centerpiece for the movie, you know, this sort of a single figure that we're all sort of afraid of or fighting against. I thought she nicely filled that role. And then somebody like Liam Neeson presenting a counterpoint as Aslan, I thought was a nice bit of casting as well. They had some good contrast.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I also want to say, too, in regards to arcs and all that, I really liked Peter's, like, not only because, like, just taking up the mantle of, like, hope and the king and all that stuff, but, like, in regards to his brother Edmund, who had always been a pain in the neck. And I know he had to be, like, he had to have been thrust into this role as, like, big brother or, like, the father of the family, if you will, because their dad was at war. But, again, having seen, like, throughout the film how Peter's always, like, just a thorn in his side and then like when peter gets or excuse me when edmund gets stabbed in like how much that hurts him and like the deepening meaning behind like how much he means to him and like get uh fight when he
Starting point is 00:17:18 fights um uh tilta switten's character like i like i really felt that in uh in his facial emoting and his uh his body language and like like how much that hurt him like for and again i know it's his family but like even sometimes we can't stand family members and like for someone who has been bothering him all film like to see how much it had hurt him and caused him grief in that moment like i just like the chips are really down and yeah you see how much someone actually does care yeah no and i appreciate after everything and when you know that he's feeling regret for how he acted before because he didn't you know i think they did a nice job of at least depicting that with peter where he has yeah just this this great burden part of me wishes that this movie had more
Starting point is 00:18:01 time to be a little bit more personal with each individual sibling because I feel like, again, a lot of the growth of those characters is kind of done in an ensemble fashion. We spend the most time in the personal world of Lucy and a little bit of time in the personal world of Edmund, but even then with Edmund, it's a bit more of a functional thing because we are laying down, you know, the various stakes and, you know, he's giving up crucial information and stuff like that. So there is that element, like, early on, you know, with Mr. Tumnus and you have Lucy in there. Like, you do get those moments, which I maybe wish we had a slightly greater level of time for just to, yeah, like, indulge in the wonder of Narnia and sort of seeing what is so lovely about this place and thus learning what there is to fight for beyond the universal sort of like, well, tyranny is bad. and anything encroaching upon the well-being of the animals
Starting point is 00:19:00 and the plant life is bad. I did like that, especially through Lucy, and I thought the book ends with Mr. Tumnus were really nice, and that's a character who isn't in the movie a whole lot even, but yet feels like a very prominent character, and who feels like a very important character. And I feel like, again, my recollection of the book isn't super clear, because it's been a long time since I read it.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I remember there being maybe a great, or just, you know, pound for pound presence of Mr. Tumnus. But that also could be in other books, other stories. But regardless, I really like James McAvoy even. I think this probably would have been the first time a lot of us saw him back in the day. And I thought he brought a really nice presence to that. And again, made for a character who you always kind of had in mind, even though, again, it struck me this time that he wasn't really, yeah, like on screen a heck of a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah, when he comes back at the end and returns the handkerchief and they have that sort of, and even him, you know, his struggle at the beginning is sort of like I'm, he's so broken up about what he is, that's that thing. It's not something I did. It's something I'm doing as he, you know, is grappling. It feels like a coward. Yeah, but even in that moment, you know, he does create that opening for her to get out the first time. Right, right. You know, so like little things like that I thought spoke nicely to the nuances of wartime things. through the scope of the fantasy. And two, you have a whole bunch of, you know, Judeo-Christian symbolism and stuff like that. You know, Aslan certainly has aspects that feel very Jesus-like. And just the role that, you know, Tilda Swinton plays, you know, there's a lot of God and the devil and, you know, the son of man returning.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And, you know, if, you know, the knowing the actual meaning of sacrifice so that you can, you know, reverse death, you know, And in that way, you know, Aslan he sees makes this noble sacrifice on behalf of everyone and thus reverses death returns and also brings back with him just sort of like the life to the land. So, you know, there's a lot of that stuff too. But but yeah, like for what this is, I thought this was like a valiant effort. And it's like pretty good. Like I think there are ways it could be better. And even I think there are ways that it could like really punch the epicness of it.
Starting point is 00:21:26 whilst not transcending something that is, you know, again, family accessible, accessible to young viewers. But all that considered for as, you know, notable of a piece of literature as this is and as, you know, beloved as the Narnia books are, I thought this is pretty solid. Movie buffs gamers. Let's talk about one of the coolest strategy games out there. Warhammer 40,000 Tacticus. Now, if you've never heard of Warhammer, here's the deal. It's his massive legendary sci-fi universe full of epic battles, power. factions and stories so intense, they feel straight out of a blockbuster. Tacticus takes all that and turns it into a tactical, term-based strategy game where you are in control.
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Starting point is 00:23:12 I really love the score. And it's nice to now have context behind it. But I thought the, his score just really elevated the film, you know, from the action sequences to a lot of the more somber moments, just, um, really. really, really beautiful score, I thought. A lot of, yeah, personality in the music. Yeah, for sure. Shall we go to some trivia?
Starting point is 00:23:34 George E. Henley's reaction to Mr. Tumnus at the lamppost is genuine. She had not seen her castmate James McAvoy in his costume before filming the scene. So her screams and reactions were completely real. Georgine's first reaction to the snow world of Narnia is also genuine. She was carried into the set blindfolded to make her first entrance in her wide-eyed, delighted reactions. to it all were entirely her own. That was a good choice. And that was some of the most, again,
Starting point is 00:24:04 I feel like they must have done a lot of stuff like that with her because her sense of, she brought the most wonder to all of this. And I feel like she had the biggest reactions to the fantasy world coming on. And just shouts out to, I do like the way that they visualize the transition from wardrobe to Narnia each time
Starting point is 00:24:23 and then back at the very end. Yeah. The inscription on the blade of Peter's sword reads, When Aslan shakes his main, Narnia shall no spring again. Ah, okay, fun. The wolves, oh, by the way, I remember the fox in the movie. Do you know who was the voice actor who did that? Who's that?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Rupert Everett. Okay, sure, sure, sure. And it was Michael Madsen that did The Wolf. I would know that voice anywhere. The wolves that destroyed the beaver's home were mainly real animals with one or two CGI ones added in. Although their tails had to be digitally removed and re-added, their tails kept wagging while filming the scene,
Starting point is 00:25:02 making them appear friendly. The trained live wolves in the cinematic film were the hybrids of huskies or Alaskan Malamutes. That I definitely found myself noticing and appreciating the amount of real animal actors on screen. And then, you know, obviously there are times when they have CG for certain ones, or especially when they're speaking.
Starting point is 00:25:26 But even that, even the speaking animals, I've seen that look way more distracting. Like, I like the beavers. And yeah, I was definitely noticing. A lot of actual wolves on set.
Starting point is 00:25:38 You know, horses and stuff like that too. A lot of good animal wrangling. Like, they really did. Like, I will say, it seems like in a,
Starting point is 00:25:46 again, more youth friendly package, they really did do the, put the effort into compiling an epic set of, production values. Like it looks like they threw down for locations. Like, yes, there are some green screens here or there, but there are also a lot of great locations. Yes, there are some CG animals here or there. There are also a lot of regular, real animals. Yes, there are some CG creatures here and there, but there are also a lot of animatronic heads and costumes and
Starting point is 00:26:11 guys in suits and, you know, puppets and whatever else. So like, yeah, I thought they did a nice balancing. I think that's the thing that helps me ground, especially. I mean, I think Terminator 2 in Jurassic Park I've mentioned many times is when you can blend CGI in practical and mirror it in one like that's when they work together when it's all just CGI it's like it kind of takes away the illusion a little bit but like there's certain things you have
Starting point is 00:26:33 to just do CGI I understand which works like the Beavers for instance like I thought that was great but and even Aslan he looked great I thought too yeah and that effect his age pretty well I would say like I don't remember even at the time what people were saying like oh does the lion look
Starting point is 00:26:49 realistic but like at least this watch. I was sitting here going, it looks pretty good. Yeah. When the adults when the adult swearing got out of hand on the set, Georgie Henley, who plays Lucy, set up a swear bucket. James McAvoy was supposedly the worst offender. Even her
Starting point is 00:27:05 teenage co-stars had to pay their toll, though especially Scander Keens, I think that's Edmund, according to the DVD commentary. That's fun. Went straight back into the budget. When the professor talks with Peter and Susan in his study, he smokes his
Starting point is 00:27:21 pipe. The container from which he draws his tobacco is a silver apple, a reference to the professor's experience in Narnia in the first book in the series, The Magician's Nephew. That's right. That's the first book. Okay. Professor Kirky presents three choices to the other Pensive children regarding what to think about Lucy's claims about Narnia, that she is being dishonest, that she is mad or that she is telling the truth. C.S. Lewis was a vocal advocate of Christianity, and in his book, Mere Christianity presented three similar choices about Jesus' claim to the son of God. Liar, lunatic, or Lord.
Starting point is 00:27:56 This is known as the Trilemma argument and is still often used by Christians today. Interesting. In the movie, Edmund asks if the white witch can make him taller. In fact, Scandard Keynes grew six and a half inches during the filming of the movie. See? She made it work. Maybe she shouldn't have been vanquished. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Ask and you shall receive Turkish delights. During filming, William Mosley, who plays Peter, kept accidentally hitting Georgie Henley Lucy with his sword handle and making her trip when he ran too quickly. Oh, my goodness. What kind of older brother, is he? Tilden Swindon, first choice for the role of Judis, the White Witch. Hadn't read the book prior to filming.
Starting point is 00:28:38 She wore platform shoes under her costume to make her taller and used a brace on her shoulders between takes to give her a break from the weight of her wig and crown. Wow. Let's go to some spoilers. Heavy is the wig and crown. Let's see the spoilers here. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:28:56 The fur around the white witch's neck during the final battle scene is Aslan's main that was cut off the night before. In the same scene, she fights Florentine style with two swords. Oh, yeah. That was pretty cool looking. Georgie Hainling is the principal actress in the role of Lucy. Near the film's end, her older sister, Rachel Henley, plays her grown-up altar. ego early in the movie when mr thomas refers to lucy as a daughter of eve a confused lucy says her mother's name is helen the mother of the two daughters that's i thought that yeah the older version was a
Starting point is 00:29:33 good match that's funny at the yeah at the end of the film when the grown-up lead uh when the grown-up leads go hunting the importance of the white stag is never mentioned the stag was supposed to be magical and grant a wish to its possessor that's a thing like throughout lots of folklore it's like that Yeah, the mystic hunt for, like, the white stag or whatever. The kings and queens wanted to acquire its power so they chased it themselves and even reached the outer border of Narnia with the lamp post. The final scene in Narnia with the adult Penceives takes place. Pevencies.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Pennceives. Pevency's. Sorry, I keep saying Penceives. Pevencies, thank you. It takes place 15 years after the main plot of the film. Can you imagine that when they return as children like 15 years has gone by? And they have that knowledge of being, like, matured 15 years later. then they're back to being themselves.
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's how you cheat mortality, Andrew. You've just got to get a magic cub or a magic wardrobe. I guess. The scene where Peter and Susan argue and Lucy shouts, stop it is the only time where Lucy is angry in the entire film. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I guess the next one would be with the, let's see what it's called.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's either Prince Caspian or the Chronicles of Narnia of Prince Caspian. And then the third one after that, if we continue, is the Chronicles of Narnia, the voyage of the Don shredder. I came out two years after that one and then it says
Starting point is 00:30:54 followed by I guess the new one is the Chronicles and Arnie of the Silver Chair that hasn't released yet but Joe Johnston who did Jumangi
Starting point is 00:31:02 Honey I Shrunk the Kids he also did Captain America the First Avenger Jurassic Park 3 he's directing that one we'll see I mean Greta Gerwig is supposed to make one
Starting point is 00:31:10 for Netflix so I don't know if that one's happening or not or if we're going to have two Narnia's yeah I'd love to continue the series so hopefully we can yeah i would be thrilled i mean like yeah this was fun to again like i i remember seeing this and be kind of hyped for it when it first came out and i haven't really
Starting point is 00:31:30 watched it again since then this was nice to kind of come back to and it restoke some of those you know uh literary vibes from when i was a kid certainly and yeah i would be thrilled to continue on and to see whatever else this comes you know to be because i feel like narnia certainly you know the way culture works now It seems like something that would have been rebooted by now, and I'm always fascinated by which installments they choose because the Lion, the Witch, and the wardrobe is the second book. It's easily the most adapted one. And then it seems like these other sequels they've kind of hopped around as well with. So, I don't know, this is always an interesting, you know, story to see turned into a film franchise. But, uh, yeah, see it rebooted, but start with the first book, right? I mean, I'd be curious, like, certainly I have, again, from my very recollection, I feel like it makes sense as to why this is the one that people often go to first
Starting point is 00:32:24 because it is, you know, again, it's sweeping and exciting and it has that sort of fantasy down the rabbit hole kind of quality in a different way from the first book. I feel like the first book maybe is a bit more gradual in terms of how it comes on and how it explores Narnia.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So yeah, I mean, it makes sense. It's just always funny to me. But yeah, Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. I thought this was pretty fun. And this was, yeah, for something that arose from yeah that glut of like oh we got harry potter coming out we got lord the rings and stuff coming out like i don't feel like this is reached in terms of just like the cultural you know pantheon quite the heights of those but i feel like there's there's definitely a lot of good work in here and there's definitely a solid adaptation here even if i feel like there's certain elements
Starting point is 00:33:08 that could be more you know uh flavorful or whatever it is or more fleshed out you know for for what they had to work with here i think i agree i would go to those levels for sure but but I still really enjoyed this a great deal. Yeah, absolutely. So here, should we check out the next one? Do you like these, uh, fran, the, the, the, but, blah, blah, do you like the Chronicles of Narnia books, the films, any other adaptations? Leave us your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And we'll catch you for whatever's next. And, uh, yeah, good luck poking around the backs any old wardrobes. Don't get lost out there. Yes, go through those fur coats. That's right. Be well, people. Christmas. Van Sickle. Oh, Chris, I think, is new, maybe.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Oh, he's a newbie. Are you a nube to the reject nation? Chris, I'm so sorry. We're about to honor your name and you're not going to be able to handle the compliments. Oh, man. C stands for catastrophic in a positive way. Yeah, you're catastrophically handsome. Oh, my God. Which is what H stands for because, like, look at you. Oh, I need a, you're a tall glass of water. he's not just handsome he's also very rich yeah he's a rich handsome catastrophic man yeah and also um
Starting point is 00:34:27 in dignant doesn't give up on a fight that chris deems worthy of of you know effort and attention yeah uh well that comes a lot with the tenacity of his attitude you know because he's such a shark yeah yeah watch out of chris sound like it's but it's a shh but it's a but it's still an s it's still an s it's still yeah it is no that's how words work and two i mean like no i mean because it sounds like it should be a different letter but it is an s word and uh you are a strong yeah about all jo rogan stand up that people like bashed on of it like not being good i'm like he made one there's one sentence in there where he said it words he says like i think words are just sounds that humans make to talk to each other right i'm like that is
Starting point is 00:35:15 actually what we did right yeah yeah yeah we chose And that's the S and the should. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. That stuff's fun to think about. It's a solid point there, Joe, Rog. Enough people got together and said, you know what, this apparatus is the best way for us to get ideas across. It's not actually the, I mean, ASL is great, but I think you go a long way from, I think word language probably helped develop.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But then I wonder, anyway, Chris, if you know which cultures developed hand communication first versus ones that communicate. did voice communication first you let us know all right happy birthday joe rogan experience happy 2025 you mofo and don't forget to download warhammer 40 000 today use that link at the description box and in the pin comment it's a great way to support the channel by supporting your awesome phone

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