The Reel Rejects - THE FINAL DESTINATION (2009) IS CRAZY WORK!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:55 And gang, this is the definitive final destination. All right, we have just reached. We're going to take some patron questions about this piece of cinema before we hop into our review. If you want to chime in
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Starting point is 00:01:16 You can't cheat death today, All righty, here we go. Abbeyenstein Arts, thank you for kicking us off today. Thank you. Love you. Appreciate you. What do y'all think happens if the protagonists survives the premonition and how does it affect the story of the next movies? Okay, so it's a bit of a hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:01:38 It's a hypothetical. Like in the visual, in the in the, in the premonition, if they make it through that premonition and they're not supposed to die in this accident, Didn't that what happened in two? Didn't the pro-diagnos live in two? Yeah, but we didn't... I thought the car... Well, no, we saw the kid die. He saved them and the guy and the girl live
Starting point is 00:01:58 and they're at the picnic and then the other kid dies and then, because of credit. But the main person lived. That did actually... Yeah, but we didn't see her in three. In the prologged, did she, I was going to say, did she survive the premonition of the prologger? Was it a foregone conclusion that she would die?
Starting point is 00:02:12 No, she died in the original prologue, because she was in the car with her friends and it was on fire. Yeah, she definitely died in the premonition. I think the question here is if the protagonist in the premonition survives. I don't know. I mean, if you survive the premonition, I got to imagine that you are, I don't know, that's a good question. I guess you would have to live. That's the answer.
Starting point is 00:02:33 You don't die ever. That's the answer. Death has chosen you as its favorite man or woman. If that happens, death is going to go on vacation for a few weeks and come back with some serious revenge. I think it would be interesting if you have it basically. So, yeah, the, oh, there's some footage from the Long Kiss Goodnight. I think it would be funny if the, yeah, protagonist survives the premonition and is trying to warn all these people of their deaths.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But since they're not affected by death, then no one believes them even harder or something. I don't know. That's a good question, though. What do you guys think? It has a sense of drama, too, because I think, like, you know, do you sacrifice yourself in there, like to break the chain possibly? Put yourself in the line in the line of fire knowing, hey, I'm going to be. fine. I don't need to do anything here.
Starting point is 00:03:20 That's an interesting. I get the sense that the, what's it called? The death itself is the thing that ignites the primagnition. Knowing that you will, yeah. Like, would it be possible to have the premonition if you're not marked for death? Exactly. Yeah, it's a good question. But if it was
Starting point is 00:03:36 the case, I think you could ring some interesting dramatic tension out of you know, the person both grappling with their own sort of questioning of their place in the order of death's design, but also So, yeah, you could get some interesting details from the other. I mean, the first movie did that whole thing of like,
Starting point is 00:03:54 oh, maybe Alex Browning is the one killing all these people. And so you could kind of revisit that idea, maybe. But we'd love to hear y'all's thoughts. Heather Geer? Thank you, my dear, for chiming in. If you could pick a character from another horror franchise to help you survive death as long as possible, which character would it be?
Starting point is 00:04:13 I've got this one. Let's go in. It's either going to be Ellen Ripley or Sidney Prescott, one of those two. They are so good at avoiding death in a horror franchise. It's true. One of those two, but probably Sydney
Starting point is 00:04:24 because she still has not been killed, so I'm going to go with Sydney. I'm going to pick Ash of the Evil Van franchise. Ash would be a good one. Dang, that would be a very fun one. All right. Jigsaw, man. I feel like Jigsaw has the, you know, the engineering prowess
Starting point is 00:04:41 and the insane level of foresight and also has like some six sense. of humor as well. I feel like he would be able to help me decode death's design to the detail because these movies
Starting point is 00:04:56 even though they're like very much supernatural slasher movies they still have that saw element because they're so intricate. He understands death. You know, he's like, man, I'm gonna try and kill those people all day. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Or Reggie the Reckless from Friday the 13th Part 5. I wonder about it. Just because Reggie's great. Thank you, Heather, for the question. We appreciate it. Or the enchil lot of his guy. All right. Or Nancy, you know. Nancy Thompson? Yeah. Get her in the Dream Warriors mode.
Starting point is 00:05:24 All right. Alyssa S. Thank you for chiming in here. Many fans of the final destination films feel that this movie simply isn't in sync. What? Why would give you that? With the rest of the franchise and overall tone and quality. Out of some of the biggest changes that occurred with this one, shot in 3D, no Tony Todd, no Shirley Walker on the music. Music. Oh, no. Not shot in Canada. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It did feel different that way. You did mention that. The location felt way off, or different, rather. What did you notice most that separated this film from the others before it? Also, were you fans of the post-Avatar spike in the, in 3D movies? That we noticed. Were there any films in particular, you think, did it really well? Location, definitely, I would say the characters were, I mean, you don't have.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You don't have the deepest characters in these films, but they were definitely a lot more shallow. The interactions were a lot less to be desired, I felt in this one, but it was still, it was still fun, but I would say those would be just the quick things I noticed location. I'm not talking about
Starting point is 00:06:34 man. It's top tier. Top tier performance. It's top to your character. It's flowed perfectly out of the previous two, three movies. You know, um, it was a experience to say the least. What, let's say what made
Starting point is 00:06:48 different than the other ones was it was like a four-part question where are the things that stood out to that were different from the other that were not in sync with the other films i think some of the dialogue was uh was a little funny more goofy um some of the characters in there i think the the the whiplash of the tone is what really stood out to yeah like them going from a uh a really dramatic scene with the guy who who played bubba to then him just like with the rope to them like all right guys a new day I was like what is happening yeah so many things are happening so fast
Starting point is 00:07:23 and I he's the only person that really brought gravitas to the film and then they kind of like a second for a second and they squandered it with silliness yeah yeah this movie had a whole bunch of stuff going for it that separated it from the other
Starting point is 00:07:39 ones uh I think it is that largely to me is it's like this one seems like it didn't do as much to have that again like wacky teen movie tone about it it like kind of sort of does especially through the one friend who
Starting point is 00:07:56 got his guts sucked out through the pool drain but even that like I don't know felt more like a requisite box we had to check you had that one you know sex scene and I don't know like best scene in the movie it felt like in trying to treat it's weird
Starting point is 00:08:14 if I squint it feels like like they were trying to treat this like slightly more seriously slash dramatically, which made it like funny and funny in spite of itself in a different way. And it's like the previous ones had this weird mishmash of tones too, but they were like so saturated in the back and forth that it felt at least like something was intended about that or there was some layer of camp they were trying to access. Whereas here it felt like, I don't know, like they wrote this this felt like a first draft of script this felt like uh like a lot of this all felt like it was assembled really fast which is funny to me because you know
Starting point is 00:08:56 obviously i think they would have to spend a fair amount more time blocking for 3d and processing all this for 3d uh there's a lot more cg i involved in the kills the kills themselves aren't quite as drawn out as consistently and uh yeah just like the editing and the tone really undercut and made a lot of things feel stilted and weird. Like, yeah, the actual tone of this movie is all over the place in a, in a
Starting point is 00:09:24 more amateur feeling way than the previous one. And I would also say, too, like, and we kept on sink it during the thing, like, we didn't feel characters were affected by the grief of what had just happened. The characterization. We didn't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But it's just like, and again, I get it. You're trying to just like move on but it's like yeah you got to still like try to be a little bit grounded in reality of like the situation and these characters are like nope nothing happened let's just move on yeah and the tone just doesn't support any of the drama like the nick guy i felt like this movie really let him just kind of flounder uh because uh his that was his name right the lead like him trying to figure this out and everything it just like it never felt like the movie was connected into his perspective or what he was trying to do and like the whole thing about trying to warn people
Starting point is 00:10:15 felt like this is it's so much of what we're doing but it felt like it is weird afterthought and like the deaths are still like neat and interesting and there's definitely some stuff that makes you squirm and cringe but it just doesn't feel as like intricately planned out yeah the the paranoia was a little lacking in this one I mean granted there was yeah they're like oh we got to warn people but there's that that sense that death is all around them at least in the first couple and you know you feel the dread like the that first scene after the the plane crashed and they go to the funeral you really feel like oh these are sadly people are actually affected by this like what is happening what is this phenomenon this one for for me
Starting point is 00:10:59 it felt like i don't they i don't know if it was like they came up with they came up with like okay we need to have a 3d movie and oh it's going to be final destination it felt i don't know it's just it was it felt like a cash grab for the sake of having another one rather than inspired from a place that they wanted to actually do something yeah i think john nailed it where they had a release date their first draft and like let's go it felt it felt sort of like the thing they say about a lot of action like mission impossible right now people is talking about like oh it feels like they came up with a bunch of set pieces and then strung it together with some plotting and that's what this feels like except they didn't very clearly string it all together they just kind of had a bunch of set pieces and then they put some it feels like they had a grab bag of scenes to put between the set pieces and they just kind of like dumped a few out they just sprinkled a few scenes in and then let the deaths do their thing and then had the uh the 3d sequences of cg i kind of tie them to the premonitions of who we're going to die and even the rules this this is accounting thank you for your question this is accounting for a lot
Starting point is 00:12:08 of we'll touch on some more review things in a few minutes but this is touching on a lot of the stuff there is to talk about because yeah like the way that they're even trying to outsmart it like that part of the movie felt way less engaged and more like a thing characters would frequently talk about but like
Starting point is 00:12:24 an after a complete afterthought in terms of like the movie's own internal logic also some of those 3D sequences of the premonition were working against some of the kills themselves like for example the girl who got hit by a rock in the face but just seeing the cigarette and like seeing the different trinkets of it i was like okay well this one
Starting point is 00:12:44 doesn't have me on edge as much because like okay you see the ceiling fan uh fall and like the the thing explode but then just gets hit by rock it just felt anticlimatic rather than a subversion like a cool subversion well yeah because i feel like in the previous ones too the premonitions had more they were a little more vague so you would have to be like deciphering what the thing means whereas in this one it feels very clear it's like oh here are the major beats of the killer that you're about to see yeah and it's very clear how all of them are going to play in or at least that one of these things that you're seeing is going to be like the thing that does it also the cigar had nothing to do with that kill i was like why did why was that there not really i don't know
Starting point is 00:13:25 i guess it's just i think it was just made for a punch line with that guy like what are you stupid or something and then he's smoking a cigarette above gas yeah oh maybe yeah and uh any post avatar 3d movies you were particularly excited about? Toy Story 3. I thought that was great. It's a good 3D experience. I think what else? I've always wanted to see my bloody
Starting point is 00:13:48 Valentine. That's a fun movie. You know what I really regret not having seen in the theaters in 3D? or dread 3D. That was a great experience. I only got to see it at home, but yeah, I would have loved to have seen that one. We just watched a movie recently that, you know, I
Starting point is 00:14:06 think people love that's in 3D uh that's an animated film i think had i seen that in 3d that would have been really cool it came out and i think not long after this one came out what what movie you just don't i'm not going to tell us the movie can we say what movie oh oh oh we just watched it then how did you see it in 3d but i'm saying it had 3d as sequences but i imagine it was made for 3d gotcha i see okay i see what you're saying it's technically a movie that's what you're talking about god yeah i'm going to have to look up you'll find not soon i'm going to have to look at look up more 3D. I think gravity I saw in 3D. Oh, I know. I still
Starting point is 00:14:40 haven't seen that movie. Saw 3D. Dude, Saw 3D. It's my favorite one. Which is better final destination, the final destination or saw 3D. Saw 3D. The post-Avatar spike and 3D movies, like it was all right. Like, it's definitely one of those trends that I think
Starting point is 00:14:56 throughout cinema, it's like you see a couple examples where you're like, yes, Avatar being an example where you're like, man, pretty great 3D. But not every movie lens itself to that. For sure. Shark Boy and Lava Girl. It's always fun. There you go.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That's the definitive answer. That's Jaws 3D. That's 1983 though. That's not post-advature. Gabriel, what movie franchise or overall genre do you think could work well if crossed over with the Final Destination franchise? Personally, I think it would be fun mixed with a disaster movie such as Twisters. I think that would be very fun. You do an all inclement weather themed one.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Goodness, that's a great question. I mean, I said it during the movie, man. Give me a Fast and the Furious Final Destination crossover. Give me some kind of like crazy death-difying action movie crossover. Do it like in Elseworlds where you're free to kill the characters outside of Canon. I think Fast and Furious would be good. I mean, it's already been like in realm of the final destination. I think Mission Impossible would work well.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Ethan Hunt's trying out to my death. Yeah, no, I mean, he's already been doing that for eight films now, right? That would be really fun. Yeah. I want a suicide squad heist as well. movie sure final destination oh my god it's a final destination but it's it's you start the movie
Starting point is 00:16:12 the prolog is you have this crew who's about to knock over a bank and then some like bad shit happens and the bank explodes and a bunch of people die and then they go ahead with the heist but then one guy's like oh man I'm having all these premonitions and stuff and then they got to
Starting point is 00:16:29 do the heist but also not die that would be fine make it like a bottle movie make it like real time 90 minutes Yes. How about How about this one? That's how you change up the franchise. How about Freddie versus death?
Starting point is 00:16:42 I don't know what it would be about, but yeah. It's just to be Freddie laughing at you in your dreams while you die. Right. It would just be another one of those movies. That was final Westernation, I think would be cool. Do like just an old West one. It's completely normal final destination. I just want to see Robert England back as Freddie Kruger, okay?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Everyone does. We understand. Okay. And I think disaster is a great call. Or, you know, mix it with Saw and then Jigsaw's mad because he's like, I'm trying to kill these people and death keeps killing them first. And then is Jigsaw versus Death. Anyway, Jessica Houser, last question is admitted. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Now that we are four movies in, which death from each movie so far sticks out to you as the worst most gruesome or unexpected. I mean. Are we talking? Or out of all four. Are we talking worst as in like that was done? Let me finish reading the question. Okay, I'm sorry, ADHD. Now that we are four movies in, which death from each movie so far
Starting point is 00:17:39 sticks out to you as the worst, most gruesome or unexpected. And if you want to name one from all four, I imagine you can, but if you want to name just the one that comes to mind out of all four, that's cool. You mentioned on the last reaction the slipped on the spaghetti slash eye death from the second film. I'm curious, has that opinion changed. No, I'm still going with that one. I love that one. I think the butt suck could have been better.
Starting point is 00:18:04 That one could have been. The butt suck in a weird way is like one of the ickyest in concept. Yes. Like, like actually like yeah, it does in a way stick out as like the most gruesome. Like it's so counter to what I would have expected and it's such an icky like it's designed, I think to make you make the joke.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And then the punchline is that they deliver on the joke that you. You just may. And I feel like in concept, that might kind of be the one right now, recency bias aside. However, in terms of what they actually show on screen, it's very tame, which is a bummer. Because that's like one of the best prospects in the movie is like, oh, my God. Are we about to see this guy like turned inside out and like completely eviscerated through his butt? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:55 You know, which would have been very cool. But I'm trying to think of all the ones that like we've actually seen. the cut and half one was pretty decent. The Nazi's death is my favorite. The Nazis death is pretty great. The on fire one or the cut and half. The on fire one. The on fire.
Starting point is 00:19:13 No, no, no, screw the cut and half. That's a split second. Like him get dragged down the street and the thing catching fire and he's like trying to put up
Starting point is 00:19:20 his Bernie cross and all that stuff. Yeah, that was pretty icky. That's my favorite. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any, if there's any other,
Starting point is 00:19:30 like particularly great one that I'm forgetting off the top of my head now. I mean, you know, it's hard to beat the logs on the freeway. It's hard to beat. I saw it recently actually happened. Like, I saw a video of like a log going through a, oh, my God. A windshield was pretty narrowly. Oh, boy. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:47 All right. I will not drive near any log trucks, son. I was going to say, have we forgotten any from part three? I feel like there was, there was at least one really, Ikey one in part three. I mean, there was the nail gun in the, the Home Depot store. The tanning beds. The tanning beds.
Starting point is 00:20:05 The tanning beds, that's what I was going to say. That was a good one. That was that, that one in the, the eye one. Those are the two. The tanning beds, I would say is pretty gross.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I mean, like, the guy getting gourd, cheeks getting gourd was like a good gag. But yeah, and shot, Sean Williams. Stifler and the first one.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah. That's pretty nuts. Yeah. All right. Well, we got some good ones. We got some good ones. Thank you for the questions.
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Starting point is 00:22:42 Aaron, the final destination. I'll be quick, it'll be swift. It was fun. It was a good time. Was there a well-written time? No. But I had an eye to self. I had myself a really fun time, especially watching it with these boys. I always have a good time watching movies with them.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But this one especially brought some giggles, unintentional giggles to my heart. Exactly. It was a strange script with some strange dialogue and some fun kills and, you know, some really dated 3D. He's talking about it. James Jimmy Cameron worked on this, man. Jimmy Cameron was on this.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And he endorsed it. Jimmy Cameron. He did. He loves this trend in 3D movies especially. He was a big
Starting point is 00:23:31 fan of Piranha 3D which we should also watch. I love that. I've not seen Piranha 3D. I never seen it but yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:39 it was I think fair to say the weakest of the films but you know, I think this for me falls in the category of so bad it's good.
Starting point is 00:23:49 So bad it's fun. I'd agree with that. And yeah, I didn't regret watching it. I would, I will, you know, have giggles and kikis about this movie for many days to come. But, yeah, andrusif, what did you think, dude? I mean, look, I don't come into this for extreme depth or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Having said all that, I also, like Aaron, had an extremely fun time, and I don't regret watching this as well. I don't also pretend to be a great actor myself. There were some deliveries and some performances where I don't know if I was supposed to laugh, but I was extremely. giggling. There's a couple lines specifically. It was like, I'm watching you chocolate or some shit. Oh my God. And a couple other line delivers. The only, I mean, Patty Spivich, there were a couple scenes where I'm like, okay, she's doing a pretty decent job. But the only actor in here who was really doing a great job, in my opinion, was Bubba McKellie Williamson, or however you say his name. He was doing a, for the material he was given, he was doing a good job. And I actually, like,
Starting point is 00:24:51 I resonated with his character, his past. And, everything he was going through and the trauma and grief that he was dealing with. He actually felt like a character in this movie. Yeah, the only one with who did. Yeah. And you know, very sensible character. Again, other than the tone whiplash that
Starting point is 00:25:08 there's nothing he can do in as an actor, he's only just reading a script. I actually like didn't want anything to happen to his character with the rest of the characters as like, okay, let's get to the next thing that's going to happen. But, you know, in regards to that, the movie is just
Starting point is 00:25:24 it's it knows how ridiculous it is so from that perspective and you know within the first five 10 minutes like totally you know what you're getting yourself it's the best one right yeah the best one totally you know what you're getting yourself into so off screed oh i i wasn't expecting you know and i've heard some comments like prepare yourselves for the fourth one having settled that again i had a fantastic time so that's all i can ask for at the end of the day for a film If it's not going to be a story with emotional depth or a story with a really great story, just make it fun and entertaining.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I can at least honestly say it was fun and entertaining. Johnald. Well, it has that thing, yeah, and you've brought up Freddy movies a number of times during these reactions, and I think one thing that that franchise demonstrates is that, you know, as long as, like, in a Freddie movie, as I adjust my head here,
Starting point is 00:26:18 in a Freddie movie, as long as you have some fun, creative dream sequence kills, then the rest is kind of, not arbitrary or auxiliary, but like you can forgive a lot if that's on point. And I feel like Final Destination, similar in terms of if you have some creative deaths and you have, again, just that tone of like, oh man, any little detail, death's lurking, what's the chain reaction going to be? And this still has that.
Starting point is 00:26:43 This is easily, yeah, the most disjointed, the one that feels the least thought out. This feels like all the actors like just got the script and just started. considering developing characters and then they decided to roll while that was still very much in the early stages you know it feels like nobody had any time to develop anything about this
Starting point is 00:27:07 and yeah like it definitely is it's so fascinating to me because yeah like this wound up still being really fun and all of the movies have had elements of humor whether intentional or just by virtue of the can amp and the again like it's weird tonal whiplash is something I associate with all of this franchise but in a weird way the first three had a consistent tonal whiplash because yeah you would meet the kids and the kids would be these like super heightened teenage sex comedy type characters and then the death starts coming in and then you get this contrast where like things feel really grim and serious even though you have these sort of heightened characters and here it felt like they toned the characters down slightly uh and made them like less. less wacky, but they also didn't replace that with anything.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And then they like cut 10 minutes out. Like all of these have been like a tight 90. And this was like a 72 or an hour and 20 or something like that. And I was like, if you, you could have made that extra 10 minutes go a long way by giving any amount of characterization because the problem becomes when they do try to characterize characters, it feels random and weird like you're watching a student film. The only person with any development is George who has the most. student film kind of backstory
Starting point is 00:28:24 a drug driving accident I kill my wife and kid and I'm trying to cope with the grief and like until you learn that he just seems like a regular dude and then he has that one scene where he's sitting contemplating that glass of coniac or whatever
Starting point is 00:28:39 where I'm like that's that one scene felt like it was snipped out of a completely different movie I was like holy shit there's some acting happening and then like scenes later he dies like so unceremoniously and then we revisit that moment
Starting point is 00:28:58 only to have him die over the dude's shoulder again and he just doesn't even acknowledge it at that point he just took it for granted out of the premonition or whatever if I'm interpreting that moment correctly uh like this was it really did feel like the combination of like a student film a porno film
Starting point is 00:29:16 but like with less T&A than the previous movies and then also like a TV. This felt like you're watching the Final Destination TV show and now we're in like season eight or something like that. Like the, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:32 The quality of the filmmaking felt different. Yeah. We're not in Canada anymore. It's true. Why less small feel like. I think the part that my favorite part wasn't even the dev. It was when he was trying
Starting point is 00:29:47 when he was trying to take himself out and he was like, I've been trying to do this all day. And then he's got the rope. Wait, wait, no, not even that part yet. The fact that they didn't get him down, the rope just broke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And then he's sitting with his toe on his neck. I was like, bro, what? And then he was just celebrating the moment after that. Like, nothing had just happened. Like, yeah, like, actually, like, he had just been cheered up by his mates or something like that. Like, it's good, buddy. This has a totally different quality of unhinged
Starting point is 00:30:19 that feels, again, like, very sort of like final this is the same director's final destination two david r als homeward bound to snakes on a plane and final destination two doesn't feel anywhere near as disjointed or like uh half developed as this does like final do you feel like the how much of it do you feel like was his vision and how much of it do you feel like was studio interference and then they wanted it to be in 3d i cannot tell like 3d seems like a perfect device for a franchise like this i'm i'm for it i think it's a great i idea. And I know that it takes a lot of extra. You plan it and block it and do all the things a little different than you would in a regular movie, even if you're just doing a post conversion to 3D. I would love to know. Like this seems like a movie that has some kind of story about how it was made. And like I like I like the 3D element, but it also, yeah, it feels like a movie. This feels like a movie that was like made in a very short time. Like this is a couple.
Starting point is 00:31:21 or a few years after the previous one, right? Like, this feels like what happens. 2006, 2009, yeah. Yeah, this feels like what happens when in the older days of a slasher franchises, where someone goes like, damn, this is still raking in money, quick. We got to turn one around for next year. We got to, like, write, produce, edit,
Starting point is 00:31:39 and release this, like, all in under a year. It's like the kind is the vibe that this feels like. Because, yeah, it's like the dramatic, the writing, the character stuff is so half-hearted and disjointed. and it's like it's going through the motions of like we've got to find people and warn people but like the group who's brought together by this initial
Starting point is 00:31:58 race card tragedy does not feel like any kind of ensemble and there's no tension to them trying to get to people and warn them about stuff and then when they are warning them about stuff characters behave like her friend with the movie thing was like
Starting point is 00:32:14 ridiculous she's like listen you're crazy I'm sick of this I just want to watch this movie and like I can understand a version of that that could work if you have like a better script overall and an actor who can sell that
Starting point is 00:32:30 not to say that this actress is not capable of that but in the moment it feels like this totally flippant just like you're being irrational and weird let me watch my movie crazy we beat this thing we're fine and I'm like what about this would have you
Starting point is 00:32:46 in that level of comfort after everything you have experienced everything else, yeah. Your first-hand experiences and your second-hand experiences seeing what has happened to all these other people. Yeah, this was absolutely half-baked and weird. But no less fun and enjoyable. Like, it's got the least elaborate and the least icky kills.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Like, some of the kills live up to the previous movies or at least approach that, whereas other ones do feel like we just kind of rushed or skipped past them. So, yeah, very, very disjointed, weird, but still very entertaining and watchable experience. And he's ready. He's holding up his phone. I'm running late, so I unfortunately have to get going. But let's start really quick.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Rodden Tomatoes. What do you guys think? Start with the critics. One at a time. Go 14. 95%. Uh, I'm going 8%. 28%.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Wow. All right. All right. Audits. Audience. Oh, 57%. 57. 38.
Starting point is 00:33:45 35. Hey. Ha ha. Got one. Got one. Box office. Worldwide. Oh, golly.
Starting point is 00:33:54 110. 210. 110. $250 million. $250 million. $1.86. Okay. And then budget.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Oh, it's got to be more expensive than the previous one. I'm going to go $30.30 million. I'm going to go $40 million. Let's go. Let's go 3D. And I'll read four because it's the fourth movie trivia and then I got to get out of here. During the car wash scene, Haley Webb actually broke the car window when she was pounding on it. the editors left the shot in.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Cool. Nice. The film's McKinley Speedway accident is similar to a real-life disaster in 1955, Le Mans' disaster, a 24-hour endurance race in which a multi-car collision launched an engine block hood and other wreckage into a packed crowd of spectators killing an estimated 84 people in total. The deaths included spectators being cut in half by the flying hood like a guillotine. The engine block crushing a swath through the crowd, an explosion and fire also occurred,
Starting point is 00:34:48 which added to the death toll. Oh, my God. Last two, the only final destination film that does not include Tony Todd due to his scheduling conflicts with the film Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen. Yeah, I didn't realize. Wow, it's probably a voice.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah, and last one at around the 41-minute mark when Nick is driving, he pulls up to a sign that causes him to have a premonition. The sign is clearly marked Clear Rivers Water. Clear Rivers is a central character in both Final Destination 1 and 2. Poor Nick, man. That guy's trying his heart out, but like this movie did not bolster him
Starting point is 00:35:20 at all. I feel real bad for him. You know, good on everybody who showed up to this movie. I'm fascinated to know how they got Bubbo to be in this. And yeah, this movie did no actors any favors, but it was very fun to watch
Starting point is 00:35:36 and I'm glad we had at least I remember George. That's the one thing I would take away from this movie. Oh God, what did you guys think of the final destination? Leave your thoughts down below. Is it your favorite? Is it the best one? the best. And are you excited for Final Destination 5? That's got a burn. If you title your franchise
Starting point is 00:35:56 installment, the final destination, you do the the thing and have it be the least well received one thus far. Like, that's got to burn. So hopefully Final Destination 5 slaps. Hopefully bloodlines after that slaps. I can't wait. Very excited to check these out and continue the journey. This has been a blast. Gang, leave us your thoughts on the stuff. And we'll catch you on the next one. stay cheating death peace there guys Eric my friend
Starting point is 00:36:28 it has been a while since you and I have had a dialogue and I was saying in the last shoutout how I've been really more aware than usual like these are people as much as our Patreon has been growing
Starting point is 00:36:45 and it's a successful part of the company you're not just an object to us The people here, it's like really dawning on me. Like, you know, five bucks for like our main tier, the $5 tier for people who just give like five bucks, like we understand that that is a big number for the average person. And Eric, you have been supporting us every single month since we started this Patreon. You know, sometimes much larger than the amount that you're at right now. But the fact that you have been here this entire time, I'm looking.
Starting point is 00:37:20 there's like we're in the four figures with you for like this this large amount and it's uh it's insane i want to acknowledge that makes me uncomfortable to know that there's people out there like you who will support us uh for for that long i we still don't really quite know how to receive such a thing but we want to say thank you for being a friend for being someone who's a consistent contributor like this uh you are a golden girl i it is there's my there's my more traveling ahead of us. There's a lot of random plans you don't know about here
Starting point is 00:37:55 that are all about getting to this, this, this. A lot of zigzagging and believe me, Atlanta is on the list. So when the day comes and you go to Atlanta, we're taking up for lunch, make sure John's going to be there with me. We're taking out for lunch. I love that. Take pictures with that tat. And I want
Starting point is 00:38:12 to take, I want to see all the animals you have. So thank you, Eric, for being the best man. Thank you. Thank you.

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