The Reel Rejects - THE FLASH (2023) IS MULTIVERSAL MADNESS!! MOVIE REVIEW!!!

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

2 BARRY ALLENS, A SUPERGIRL, & MICHAEL KEATON'S BATMAN!! Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Visit https://huel.com/rejects to get 15% off your order Support The Chann...el By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ With James Gunn's Superman in Theatres & Streaming on VOD + the recent updates regarding Man of Tomorrow, Lanterns, Supergirl, & More, Andrew & Tara CONTINUE toward the inevitable conclusion of their DCEU Marathon giving their The Flash Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review! Andrew Gordon & Tara Erickson react to The Flash (2023), the DCEU’s highly anticipated sci-fi action blockbuster directed by Andy Muschietti (It, Mama). Ezra Miller (Fantastic Beasts, Perks of Being a Wallflower) stars as Barry Allen aka The Flash, who uses his speed to travel back in time to prevent his mother’s murder—only to unravel the multiverse and trigger dangerous consequences. The film features Michael Keaton (Batman 1989, Birdman) returning as Bruce Wayne / Batman in an iconic comeback, alongside Ben Affleck (Justice League, Argo) reprising his version of the Dark Knight. Sasha Calle (The Young and the Restless) makes her debut as Kara Zor-El / Supergirl, bringing fresh energy to the Superman legacy. Michael Shannon (Man of Steel, Take Shelter) returns as General Zod in a fierce showdown, joined by Antje Traue (Man of Steel) as Faora-Ul. Kiersey Clemons (Dope, Zack Snyder’s Justice League) plays Iris West, Barry’s love interest, while Maribel Verdú (Y Tu Mamá También) portrays Nora Allen, and Ron Livingston (Office Space) takes on the role of Henry Allen. Standout and highly searched moments include The Flash’s multiverse collisions, Michael Keaton’s return with the legendary line “I’m Batman,” the epic Supergirl vs. Zod battles, emotional family reunions between Barry and his parents, and shocking multiverse cameos that thrilled DC fans. Combining time travel, heart, and jaw-dropping superhero spectacle, The Flash stands as both a tribute to the DCEU and a love letter to DC history. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:35 This is a little bit of a long movie, Tara. Yeah, let's do it. Anyways, the Flash commencing in three, two, and a one. Nice. Love it. Anyways, guys, that was the Flash from 2023 and we hope you enjoyed it if you are watching here on youtube please make sure you do all the youtube stuff share the video if you don't mind hit the like button most importantly don't forget to
Starting point is 00:02:03 ring the bell that way you're notified whenever we drop videos such as these also special thanks to the fine folks over at prepper for editing down these highlights it is a task we appreciate for making them available to be on youtube and also if you are listening on apple or spot if you don't mind dropping a five star rating over there we would really appreciate that i just really quickly and then we'll jump into the questions just uh just how do you feel terra what'd you think um i liked it um i thought the script was good i thought that it had good comedic pacing some of the effects were really off and some of them are like really like dead on and really great agreed um i didn't mind that some of it looked like oh that
Starting point is 00:02:49 obviously looks like a video game like effects um because they kind of stuck to that sort of um there's other times when you kind of look at his face and you're like oh that looks not good at all but it didn't take me out of it um it i thought it had some good emotional moments um and yeah it was it was just a fun film well said well said first uh as usual or i cannot help myself I want to apologize to everyone for all the references that I continuously kept pointing out. It's just I couldn't help myself. There were just so many. So I just apologies for that.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But I hope you enjoyed them that do like it when I point those out. But I actually, again, as I mentioned at the very start of the reaction at the top of the intro, I did see this movie one time. There was a little bit I did remember a little bit I did not. I liked this a lot more than the first time I saw it. And I agree with Tara, a lot of the CGI was a little bit off. There were sometimes where the visualist definitely worked for me. Overall, though, I definitely felt the emotional aspect of the film, acceptance of loss, rather, in grief.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I thought that really hit hard for me, especially with what I'm going through right now. So I kind of, you know, I felt like I'm feeling it right now as well, so really hit home. I think my, I'm a very big fan of, I didn't read the comic Flashpoint Paradox, which I know this film is a big portion. of is loosely based off of but I did see the animated movie which is freaking awesome Tara I really recommend you see that if you haven't but I know many of you have and I think what I love about that movie so much is there's a lesson for Barry to be learned in there is that you know you can't change time
Starting point is 00:04:35 you know what I mean as much as the temptation is there to to bring back your mother you can't do that it because look what happened look at the ripple effects of doing that so I think we're I still enjoyed the film but I think we're, uh, I'm a little upset about this movie is that, and even though I'm glad he got his father off, he get, he didn't learn his lesson from the movie. And that's where I'm really upset. I'm really like, have a mixed bag over this, uh, is that, um, he's still messing with time there in the end. And that's why George Clooney showed up is because he didn't learn his lesson. So it's, again, I still enjoyed the movie. I still felt the emotional beats,
Starting point is 00:05:12 the music, Michael Keaton was my favorite part, of course. So there's a lot I really liked about it. Also, too, the Flashpoint paradox story, I really feel the entire Justice League should be involved in that entire bit. So just having, you know, Michael Keaton and Supergirl and another Barry Allen in there, I think really is selling the storyline short. I think it should have been like the second or third flash film, kind of like, and not to make comparison, just making an analogy. Like the third Captain America film is Captain America Civil War. Imagine the first Captain America film is Civil War. It's like, we got to build up to that film. I would just wish this would have built up to that.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So those are just things I loved and things I'm being a little more critical of. So anyways, we got some questions here. So we are going to get into it. All right, starting off with Malik. What were your favorite moments from the movie and who was your favorite character? Hmm. Honestly, I did really like the choreography when Batman comes down and he beats up all of those people. Like, that was such a good scene.
Starting point is 00:06:16 they did they did some really great tracking shots during that that fight um but i do love the flash as a character i mean that his comedic like tone and pacing i've said this before i think is is great so his delivery on any of those lines i think is like hell to the yeah but i would say that my my more favorite moment was that batman for sure i mean my favorite character i think i said like 50 times during the movie. Michael Keaton's my favorite Batman of all time, although it kind of goes against my thing with Batman. I don't personally prefer when Batman kills.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And it's funny that my two favorite Batman are both Michael Keaton and Ben Affleck, two Batman who kill, but they're my favorite. I just think it's in the eyes, it's in their body motion, the way they emote throughout their facial expressions, and the way they speak. And I just, I love how they move and just how they look as Batman. They're Batman. But Michael Keaton, by far, I also, Tara, and I like the way he was able to mix gravitas with sly humor.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And I think it really balanced out the emotional beats throughout the film, too. And also, he could kind of relate to Barry, because obviously they both have traumatic past with their parents and all. So I would say Michael Keaton, in regards to favorite moments, I would echo with Tara just said the action seemed like, holy shit, this guy's not 72 or 70, however old he was at the time of filming. You would never think that watching. He looked so like we were back in 1989, 1999, 1992 with Batman. Batman returns, he would never think. Probably wasn't him doing this. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I just mean even when he, even without the action scene, when he looked at, he looked so good in the suit. Totally. No action seat. But my favorite actual moment in the film was when he went to the market to say goodbye to his mom. Yeah. I just think that was like the most emotional scene in the film. And like, if you don't have that last part at the end where he saves his dad,
Starting point is 00:08:11 which again, personally, I still like that. because I love his dad and I want him to be with his dad but again it's about learning a lesson and having an arc and that's where I think the filmmakers messed up a little here from a writing perspective
Starting point is 00:08:23 but that actual scene just like had me bawling because I was so into it and like accepting grief and loss is such a hard thing to do in life but that's what makes us who we are and I thought the film really executed in that moment
Starting point is 00:08:38 in that scene and that's why I was I know I get a lot of shit in the comments for why does he always cry it's because I feel something and that scene made me feel a lot. So I think that was my favorite scene. Thank you for the question, Malik. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Chase Lee, despite the obvious problems, the CGI, the Ezra Miller, this was actually one of the favorite DCU movies and Ezra did a good job acting across himself. What is your favorite movie with the main character playing multiple characters at the same time? Ooh, I got one. I got one. I got one.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I think I got one. Have at it, kid. I'm going to go. go with, I'm going to go with a movie that's not talked about enough from 1991 directed by Sheldon Letitish, who is a very good friend of John Claude Van Dam by the way. Double impact. I freaking love that movie. It's a great story about revenge. Two twins coming together to get what's rightfully. There's that bridge in, I forgot where they are in Hong Kong, I believe it is. That movie is
Starting point is 00:09:34 freaking awesome. Two John Cloud Van Damns, let's freaking go. I still watch that movie once a year. Tara, what do you got? I honestly, I can't really think I want to make a joke by being like you know that one Lizzie Lawon movie Oh Lizzie McGuire And they're two Lizzie like there's two What's her names right in that?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Who's the actress who plays Lizzie McGuire? I don't know but I'm talking Lindsay Lohen Which is not Lizzie McGuire You're right it's not That was a joke But I In my brain I was like There might be one where Leonardo DiCaprio plays
Starting point is 00:10:12 against himself and he's great obviously the man in the iron mask yeah i love that movie i love that movie randall wallis i believe directed in 1980 that's a great movie i really love that movie so much there you have okay that's terrors and the sixth day with arnold tortsnager that's a really good one too i really appreciate that one as well uh let us know the comments where are some of your favorites all right from jaden roads thank you jaden for being a royal reject asking a question i want to like this movie more than i actually do my main problems with this movie are the story is a mess and the CGI is pretty bad but did y'all run into issues
Starting point is 00:10:46 like that while watching it? I also I want to give this movie like I want to give this movie a big pro all the Batman stuff was awesome yeah even the Ben Affleck stuff I thought was freaking so cool I know he was in it only about five ten minutes but that that speech and how he has that mentorship type of role
Starting point is 00:11:02 with Barry which I think shapes him up a lot into almost his emotional arc throughout the film but also the way he has to behave with immature Barry because that Barry he's been so pampered. He's had his parents his whole life. You know what I mean? He has not faced trauma like the Barry that we know
Starting point is 00:11:18 has. So it's fascinating that he had to become like the Pen Affleck, Bruce Wayne type of mentorship role. So I thought that was great. But in regards to did I, did we run into issues while watching it? For the most part, like this time, I really liked it a lot
Starting point is 00:11:34 more than the first time. It's just echoing what I said earlier. My biggest thing is Barry did not learn his lesson. and, you know, with allowing his father to be, you know, get out of jail, which, again, I understand the temptation, but you've just almost destroyed the multiverse, so you've got to not do that. What about you? I didn't think this story was like a total mess, but I get where you're coming from, Jaden. The CGI didn't, like, totally take me out of it.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Once I was there, like, with the babies, like, that's our first kind of, like, bad CGI that you see. And you're just like, mm, okay. when he's running back in time that CGI it just looks like a video game and since they stuck to that that's like what it continually looked like I didn't mind it. It just felt like
Starting point is 00:12:23 I just called a style that's fine I do think that this could have been probably a bit shorter and maybe a lot more fun because I'm not sure it's like the story is straightforward
Starting point is 00:12:42 in a lot of ways, right? It's like you change type, brother, now we've got to get electrocuted again, but now we find Batman. Batman's different. And then here comes Kara, because Superman doesn't exist. Like, we get it.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I'm just, I'm wondering if, like, the pacing of it would have been picked up a bit if it was, like, 20 to 30 minutes less time. Like, did we need all of it? I'm not sure. What I do know that we did need was the emotional moment with mom, you know, in the grocery store, the moment with mom when she's calling
Starting point is 00:13:17 him like, monkey, we needed those moments so that we know what we're fighting for so that when we get to the end where he's like, no, wait, I can fix it. He becomes his like devil man. That you're like, oh, I understand why. There's a lot of trauma there, right? And there's like tons of people that you see in real life where I'm like, yeah, okay, my childhood was like pretty scary. like in my parents pretty much everybody's day except my aunt like I guess I could have turned out to be a terrible person and been like lugging around a bunch of like trauma and it could have made me treat people differently but I just that's not me as a person that's like I'm not going to let that affect me in a negative way and I'm glad that you know when he does step in front of who I'm calling his brother that that's him saying I'm not going to choose sort of like this timeline to when he like the bad guy kills himself basically so i enjoyed that yeah fair enough thank you for the question all right pavel ketchmarek how are you doing terran andrew not gonna lie you're solely but surely becoming my favorite pairing that's sweet well an argument can
Starting point is 00:14:32 definitely be made that the keaton batman from this movie is not actually the batman we know from the 1989 movie the armory room looking different wayne man are looking very different from the outside Don't you think it would be a bit of a downer if it was indeed our Keaton Batman considering we find out his world is doomed to be destroyed? Lots of love. Yeah, no, I get what, by the way, just appreciate what you said about us being starting to become your favorite reactors. That's, or pairing rather, that's very sweet. Appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but also, too, we saw that, you know, Barry, you know, did save it by by undoing it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:08 So I guess I felt a cathartic sense knowing that Barry undid it. He kind of re-did it with saving his dad. And though it didn't doom this universe, it just gave us the George Clooney one. So I was more saddened that as much as I love George Clooney as one of my favorite actors is amazing. But I hate Batman and Robin so much. And I think George Clooney would even back.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'm surprised they even got George Clooney to agree to come back to this. Just even though it was a fun little came in, he's not really coming back. You know what I mean? it still. I was more saddened and disappointed about that, to be honest, but I totally get where you're coming from. You know, the fact that the Keaton Batman, I mean, you saw both of us. We were both sadden that he died if this was that Keaton or was a multiverse Keaton and alternate Keaton. Either way, I try not. Time travel gets so messy, as Bruce Wayne says, Michael Keaton's
Starting point is 00:16:05 Bruce Wayne said. So, yeah, I'm not sure which one it was. Either way, I'm just glad it was undone. So what about you? Yeah, I think like getting sort of a little bit lost in the weeds. I think like when you look at it, just because the things aren't exactly the way they were in the previous movie, it's cool to get the, like, the retro vibe of the car and stuff. But again, if we're going back in time, stuff has changed anyway. It's not going to be exactly the same. So I assume they had that in thought, possibly when they are showing us this and showing us Michael Heaton's back.
Starting point is 00:16:38 man um i do get what you mean like he would be he would be doomed um but he goes back and i i that was not on my mind a ton like honestly when i was watching it i was i was just enjoying i think watching keaton play batman again agreed agreed that's where i was at yep thank you for the question we appreciate you reject nation at the start of this year i was sitting over 20% body fat At 218 pounds, I was end of January, as of a couple weeks ago, finally took the photos I've been talking about it all year. I completed the mission. Six-pack apps came in, 8% body fat, 170 pounds. You could check out all the transformations on Instagram, but that's not why I'm here today.
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Starting point is 00:19:19 I didn't like dislike it. I think that I've already, you know, a couple of, said a couple of notes. And I think it could have been a little bit shorter. And maybe like that pacing would have really amped up the story and not had people maybe looking at the time or the bad CGI. I'm not sure. I think you also, I think we both can agree on this. We really like the 2021 Suicide Squad film a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:43 So I saw this movie two or three weeks ahead of time when I had a press screening. So there was no reception for me to have been heard. But again, the first time I saw it, I thought it was okay. I still had, I'm not going to mention it again with the issue I had at the ending, you guys already know, and some of the CGI that we already talked about too. but overall I still liked it a lot more than the first time and the emotional beats still resonated with me and I actually I really thought younger Barry
Starting point is 00:20:15 was so annoying the first time I saw this movie but this time I like that I saw when I now that I knew what to expect from it seeing that he was at least self-aware of it and also just having an understanding you know from perspective on my end that this is a pampered Barry and, you know, this is why he's behaving this way.
Starting point is 00:20:36 He's never had to face trauma or deal within his life, and he can't accept it. It was like it didn't buy. It was still a little bit too much at times, but it didn't bother me as much like it did the first time. And I did like that older brother type of dynamic between the two of them. So thank you for the question. And also we have a follow up from Zach here.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I'm excited to see how and what James does with the Flash in the future. What do you think he should do with the character? What story first? Should it be Barry or Wally? In regards to what he should do, I don't mind if they do the Flashpoint paradox. I think I said earlier, I just would like two or three films to build up to it.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So that way we have an established Justice League. So when you get to this point, like this hits way harder, kind of like a Captain America Civil War. We've got like the whole team together here now. So like it's going to really conflict us the audience because we love all these characters now. And you've got this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And also, I hope he learns his lesson there, of course. But in regards to the first story, I think you just want to, like, you're bringing a new character. I mean, though we've seen the character, it's a new version of the characters. I want to go with Barry, by the way. I just want to point that out. But I think, like, you're building a new universe for this new character. So just simple story. It doesn't need to be, like, grand or grandiose.
Starting point is 00:22:01 or anything um yeah just it could be an origin story whatever like him getting the lightning and then he's got to deal with a villain it doesn't have to be anything like it can be simplistic you know but i want the story to focus just on berry you know what i mean it doesn't have to be crazy like flashpoint or anything like that what about you yeah i think when you see the flash in the one of the suicides or the superman movies i forget but it's it's very simple where he's like working at a doggy daycare he's in a doggy daycare and then he saves the girl right from the car crash um that's a really fun scene the way that he's introduced right they add in um they make sure that yeah obviously he's our comedic relief he's good at the at the tone and pacing of that and then we get to see his powers and
Starting point is 00:22:47 obviously how awkward he is around other people and his social interactions there's a lot to play with there in regards to a character um i mean he displays a lot of characteristics for someone who would be like on the spectrum and not just awkward, but he's also very like smart and cool and funny and following someone around with that type of a background who also has
Starting point is 00:23:12 superpowers, super easy. Like you can take that script a lot of different ways and still have it be entertaining with just him in it. Yeah, good job. Great. So Kevin B is, so was there a moment in the flash that
Starting point is 00:23:28 actually worked for you or were you just sitting there trying to make sense of the mess. I mean, we've kind of, thank you, Kev, for the question. We've kind of gone pretty much into that. I'm going to read his trivia. He said, the flashes CGI got slammed because the artists were slammed juggling multiple DC projects and forced to complete many complex shots in just days, not weeks. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:23:50 This rush led to unfinished effects, especially in the final battle and the cameo scenes, making the movie visuals look like they were whipped up at super speed and not in a good way. Yeah, I mean, I kind of mentioned it while we were reacting. I said, like, I get it from the perspective of it's the flash and he's running super fast. But still, there were, we, you said it looked like a video game at times. And there were other times where it was like the CGI looks very interesting. So I can imagine they were probably pressed for time. And I get that.
Starting point is 00:24:18 But there were other visual shots, too, that I think looked really good. There were a lot of tracking shots while he was running. And there were other shots with Supergirl while she was flying. And shots of the Batwing, I thought, really worked too. So, you know, when we're going to, like, say that things don't work, I also want to point out things that do work as well. I find it really insane that if I was on VFX for them, I would have been like, I quit because I can't put my name on it because you're not going to get hired off the looks of that, right? And I'm sure that everybody understands in what you're saying, it's completely insane to ask a VFX artist to complete something in date. that is not going straight to TV.
Starting point is 00:25:01 That is going to a national release of a film that's going to be on the big screen. I think it's ridiculous. I understand that the upstairs, when we're talking about DC, obviously a bunch of idiots, but we're focusing on the capital and the money and that we have to like get it out on time
Starting point is 00:25:23 because we can't waste time and we can't like pay these. They need to do these other projects. It's like, bro, this wouldn't have had what by what you guys are saying, but you guys know I'm not, I'm not really on. I post on social media and then I get off. Like, I don't read anything. I don't read the news. I didn't, I don't know anything about this film. But from what you're saying, it was very badly received. And I think that has a lot to do with studio execs. I mean, I would hope that that's not the director saying, obviously, speed through it because we have to release it. My assumption is it is studio execs that are making that decision. and it's the dumbest thing to me because it wouldn't have been such a bad like reception I think if the story
Starting point is 00:26:07 still would have been a bit of a mess it doesn't rely just on the effects but come on you could have made them like a little bit better so that people aren't walking out going like did you see that effect and what the fuck was that and this is like a huge movie
Starting point is 00:26:20 it takes you out of the illusion makes you yeah I know I understand I totally get it of course anyways thank you Kev B for the question and for the trivia, we appreciate it. All right, from Lindsay Dude. Thank you for being a royal reject, and for asking a question, we appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:26:38 If y'all have seen the C.W. Grant Guston version of The Flash, how did you feel watching the way this movie told the Flashpoint story? Instead, I feel really protective of this character from the comics and the CW, and so much about this version was a letdown. Not just Ezra Miller's portrayal, but the actual storytelling, curious on y'all's thoughts and overall familiar. with the character. First of all, Tara, have you seen any of the Grand Custin show or no? No.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Okay, so this is a question for me then. I have watched, it's been a while since I watched this show, by the way. I watched up to episode three or four of season five, and I then gave up because I felt the show was extremely tedious and repetitive. I'm sure there's many more great episodes after that point, and I probably missed out on some really good ones. But season one, I loved. Season two was really good.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Season 3 was pretty good. Season 4, I think it was the thinker. I think was the villain. I liked a lot of the stuff, but season 5, I just... I think it was season 2 that was Flashpoint. If I remember again, it's been a while. There were things about it I really liked, mainly being that you're not going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:27:45 If I spoil some stuff, you Google. Okay, just want to make sure. There were some things about it I really liked, again, that the main thing with Flashpoint for me, as I've pointed out here at nauseam, I just want Barry, as much as I understand his pain and his grief and the temptation of what he is doing, I just want him to have learned an emotional art, have an emotional arc and learn a lesson. And from the Grant Guston, season two, I believe it was, I felt like he learned that lesson
Starting point is 00:28:13 and he understood the ramifications of, and the consequences of what he was doing. And I was, and I was appreciative of that. The only issue I had with that, and I get it, it's TV budget. I don't think there was a Justice League in that, at least from what I read. remember it's been a long time so i'm like that i was saddened by that more than disappointed just more of a sad note um but in comparison i prefer the c w version just because it really hit note on those on the points i just made so i would say that but again this film really hit a lot of emotional beats that i resonated and appreciated so that would be my comparison but thank you so much um i just
Starting point is 00:28:48 want to say that because you're asking you're you're saying that it's not just let down from Ezra Miller's performance. And someone said that also earlier. And I was not, uh, in watching this movie, I don't know what to compare it to. So like, you're saying, Lindsay, that you watched it, the CW, the Flash and obviously maybe you were very drawn to that. I haven't seen anybody but him play it. I think that his comedic tone and pacing is right. There's some of the dramatic stuff, but I, um, if, if he pops up again in some other movie, I mean, maybe you guys can explain, um, basically what are you comparing it to or are you just like ezra he i hate him as an actor not that you hate him but you get what i'm saying um i would love something else to compare it to grand gustin is
Starting point is 00:29:34 phenomenal though as as barry allen i think all right last question j rushen like in this movie we get different batman and superman question who is your favorite actor for batman and superman uh well i mean we know for me batman i think we know for you batman christian bail and for me it's michael keaton for my favorite Superman, I mean, I really like David Cornswet and Henry Cavill. They're both amazing. I think I still got to go with Christopher Reeve. Like, he's the OG. He just, he is the embodiment of hope.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And he is the shining beacon of that. And he inspires so much good in others. I'm not saying that Henry and David don't, but, like, he was, like, I'm so nostalgic for Christopher Reeve, and he will always be my Superman. Not that those two are not my Superman, too. But it's Christopher Reeve, the the John Williams music, the look, just the way he's able to do that mild-mannered Clark Kent.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's Christopher Reeve for me. What about you? For Superman? Yeah, I really like the latest Superman. The tough part in between the corn guy and the other hot one. Henry Cavill. Yeah, between those two hottie, the young ones, is that they didn't get.
Starting point is 00:30:50 give them an opportunity to really display the, um, the, um, the nerdy Clark Kent side, which I am still sort of waiting for. Like I would have liked to see that because then I could have really compared it to something else. Um, so we'll see. I don't know if another bat as Superman movie is going to be out there and they're going to let you see that the nerdy side of Clark Kent would be great. They gave a little bit with the corn guy, I think, but it was like two seconds.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I can't love when you say that. Two seconds. That's a very fair argument that you make. I think we all know, and this isn't big screen, but we all know who my other favorite, Clark Kent is. Of course, Tom Willing and Smallville. So I haven't said that enough. I had to point that out.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I had to point that out. We got to get out. It's freezing. We do have to get out. It is very cold. But if you stayed with us this long, seriously, we appreciate it. I don't know if we have any more DC films. If we do, you will see them pop up on here.
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