The Reel Rejects - THE FLASH SPOILER REVIEW! Cameos, Surprises, Easter Eggs, Ending & MORE!
Episode Date: June 18, 2023The Flash Movie (2023) Spoiler Talk & Breakdown for the DCEU film starring Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton Batman, Ben Affleck Batman, Supergirl Sasha Calle, the return of General Zod from Man Of Steel (M...ichael Shannon), & plenty of easter eggs/cameos like the George Clooney Batman Ending Reveal & Aquaman Post-Credits Scene. The DCEU film is rolled over into the James Gunn DCU which will reboot Superman and feature Blue Beetle - a real Flashpoint if you will that will begin our journey to a new Justice League. Coy Jandreau, John, & Greg are here to tell you if this movie lives up to the hype. We'll be New Rockstars in this review as we Screen Crush this live stream with Heavy Spoilers. Snag Yourself Our Exclusive BATVERSE Shirt! https://shopzeroedition.com/products/batverse-t-shirt #TheFlash #TheFlashMovie #DCU #DCEU #EzraMiller #Batman #MichaelKeaton #BenAffleck #Superman #Supergirl #GeneralZod #ManOfSteel #zacksnyder #snydercut #zacksnydersjusticeleague #restorethesnyderverse - Follow Coy Jandreau On Social Media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CoyJandreau TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau - Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects - Support The Channel By Checking Out Our Bomb A** Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch - POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, you know what to do when we first go live.
We need you.
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That would be great.
Go ahead, leave a like.
And then on top of that, too, tell us if you can actually hear us.
That's a very, very important thing.
What's going on, John?
Just making sure the text is not running off the side of the screen.
Ah.
Yes.
Aesthetic.
We're live.
Okay, I saw the first one.
Do I was.
Thanks.
I'm thinking about the playback here.
One second, guys.
I'm going to make a little adjustment.
Okay.
Make a minor, minor adjustment here.
This needs to be a tad bigger.
I understand John's concerned.
Don't worry, John.
I got us covered, even though I'm going to minimize us in a tiny bit.
We don't matter.
It's okay.
It's the king.
Don't worry, guys.
This is the beginning.
Welcome.
We're going to do a flash live stream, spoiler talk today.
It's going to be a blasty blast.
This movie is killing it at the box office right now.
I've never seen a movie make so much more money in my entire life.
Look out at a time.
It's doing insanely well.
But before we go into everything, I got a couple of announcements that I want to make,
especially for those who are going to be watching some of the playback.
But if you're live, you're going to be the first ones to hear this right now.
This is the official announcement for it.
You know what?
I'm going to just temporarily just make it about us really quick.
Well, hold on. Oh, wait. Hold on a sec.
We are going to be having a panel at Comic Con.
Yes.
Yep.
Saturday. Yep. Don't worry, John, you're invited.
Thank you. John's just now finding out.
I already just, I already booked your hotel, John.
So we are going to be having, what Saturday is it going to be?
We've got a Saturday panel, the 20th. Like, Saturday, that's the day.
Whatever the Saturday is where the Marvel of panel is, yeah.
So apparently, our.
WonderCon panel went over so well because we had that like on a Sunday morning, which is like a
shitty time to have a panel, like just an awful time. And then we ended up like having so many
people show up that they offered. They were like, do you, we can give you Comic Con and we'll
give you Saturday a few hours before Marvel. And I was like, wow, that's a really generous
offer. And admittedly it was a little bit stressed because Comic Con is already a very stressful
event. But then enough
people talking to were like, you should
just do it. And I was like, fine. Okay, we'll
pull the plug. And yeah,
we're going to be having a Comic-Con panel.
I wanted to see John's reaction live, and it's very funny.
Yeah.
John's reaction, oh.
Interesting.
Well, I also sitting here like, don't just
assume you're involved.
Like, cool. Congratulations.
You imagine. You have a shit we
would get if it was just like coy.
I can imagine many logical
scenarios in which that would be
like, oh, we can only do the two.
No, no, no, man.
But I've known it for, like, a week, and I've been, like, waiting to see John's face.
Yeah, that's very, very exciting.
I'm, I cannot even believe it.
I'm honored.
I'm not worthy.
So, yeah, I'm a large part thanks to Coy, large part thanks to Paul.
Can we say, isn't there?
Yeah, he's my publicist.
All right, cool, yeah.
He's not my high MDB.
We can mention Paul.
So, yeah, guys.
Oh, you know what I just noticed?
This chat is not refreshing.
That's a problem.
Oh, my God.
I was like, I was like, no one's interacting in the chat.
No one likes any of us.
This whole time, I was like, I don't think anyone in this life, so if you saw our energy.
Suddenly, I was like, Greg was right, we shouldn't have a panel.
If you saw our energy, I was like, I don't, we maybe not look the most excited right now,
because I'm like, no one's interacting with us.
This whole time I was like, this panel's not going to go as well as I thought.
The enthusiasm rides off.
And then I realized the chat was just frozen.
That was so funny.
Jesus Christ.
literally lived what you thought.
I was like, wow, this is really not going over.
Got to call Paul and just tell him now, man.
We don't want that heat.
That's why my reaction was so little.
It was just because, like, no one else was telling me how to react.
Yeah, what is San Diego?
I think San Diego starts the 19th, so are they going to be the 22nd?
Is it?
San Diego's...
No, no, we're the 22nd.
He's Wednesday's preview night, so yeah, it's 22nd.
All right.
Well, here we go, guys.
Let's talk about the flash.
Let's get it going.
So, real, now before we go into the spoilers,
so yes, we're obviously going to have a lot of spoilers here.
We're going to be doing this spoiler.
Talk, keep saying spoilers.
We have not heard John's opinion on the movie.
So, John, why don't you go ahead, kick us off?
Because Koi and I, we rewatched it.
It went to the premiere.
It's plus one.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you guys, it didn't actually get better for me, which I was surprised by.
I was convinced it would.
get better for me on the second viewing, and it actually, and it's really, especially with
comic book movies, usually they go up. And this one, it kind of went down a little bit for me.
I'm still like a 7.5, I would say, like a 7 to 7.5 out of 10. It got better for me after the
second viewing, not during it, but only by like a little bit. But John, you saw one time, what was
your, did you see it? Oh, you see twice? I saw it again last night. I heard off camera what your
first opinion was.
Yes.
Did it go up for you the second time around?
Because you were on the lower side.
Like, he was way lower than us.
Whoa.
I came out, yeah, I came out of the first viewing very
conflated.
Like that night I was like, wow, I have no idea how to feel because at first I
was like, okay.
And then, you know, after an hour, I was like, I don't know if I
like that at all.
And then an hour later, I was like, but there's some really
great stuff in there.
And then I saw it the second time.
And the second time was a much more smooth
viewing experience and it was a much more fun viewing experience, partially because the second
time I went in knowing to expect a comedy. I looked at it like a comedy the second time,
and that alleviated a lot of things, but I still left with many of the same takeaways. If that
makes sense, it was a smoother, more enjoyable film experience the second time I was less
distracted by like, whoa, where's the tone? But yeah, it's still a kind of strange hodgepodge,
with some things in it that I really, really like,
some things in it that are quite questionable,
and a lot that's pretty good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
Yeah, it's a little all over the place this movie.
It went up from a 7.7 to either a 7.9 or an 8.1 for me.
I know it's not an 8.0.
So it's either 7.9 or an 8.1.
And I think that's because of the time I've thought about it
and the times I've talked on other shows,
the times that I've conferred with people that had highs and lows with it.
I do think that the heart of it is so much better
than it should have been
with all the interference
and I think a lot of my negatives
are because of the interference
which doesn't change the fact
that that is part of the movie.
Like, it is very much a five movie movie,
but I do think that
it accomplished so many things
that are nigh impossible.
Like, I genuinely feel like
I know who the Flash is now.
I genuinely feel like I know
like a good take on a Flashpoint story
which is very dense.
I do feel like it was a great Batman 3
but it never wasn't a Flash movie.
I do feel like they did
the fan service in a way
that didn't feel, in the first two acts
anyway, that didn't feel like it undercut the film itself
and the hardest thing of all for me was
it was a movie that was so heart-wrenching but also
genuinely funny. I laughed way more
than I expected. I genuinely had some belly laughs
and I almost cried
near the end. So it did enough
for me that I was able to look past
some of my issues with the style of the
CGI and with
the clear five movies that it had to be.
Fascinating.
Yeah, I
it's cool. Okay, so we all
That was, yeah, we're all different this time.
We all have a...
It's like a seven.
None of us have like an, uh,
it seemed to have this like over glowing praise for it.
Not a five or ten.
I would say that if you watched our, like at least the review that Koi and I did out of the theater,
the things that I thought were strength still stand.
But on my second viewing, the things that I was saying I had issues with actually became
even more underscored for me when I was watching it.
And I just couldn't look past a lot of things.
And the novelty of fun actually diluted a tad bit for me on the second viewing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm able to see past like the excitement of seeing Michael Keenan and, you know,
CGI Cameo Fest.
So which I net, which the CGI, the cameos at the end never really did anything for me because the actors aren't there.
I mean, I know you can't get, you know, Christopher Reeves there.
Apparently Nick Cage filmed his and I did not get that impression.
It looked like someone could have made that on YouTube.
I think the Lego animation that that kid did for across the Spirer.
Genius.
But if he filmed that, I wish that they actually let him have a line.
That way it would have felt like at least we got somewhat of a character.
He even gave George Clooney a lot.
And I liked the Clooney a lot.
I really thought that after years of Clooney apologizing, having his one line be like,
oh, fuck a Batman, was genius.
Like, I thought that worked.
Well, guys, in the chat, can you spamper me really quick?
spam for me out of 10
what would you rate your experience of the flash
I want to see what you all have to say
I also did my DC ranking
that was very interesting to look at where I put it
because I was like what do I feel about it
like it's hard to put it with other movies
because it's so like what is this
and it is very much a victim of its own hype
man it did not help having Tom Cruise be like cinema
and Saslav and Storsese really should not
praise this one well
you see I think where the movie is
I really, this is when I really, I mentioned, we briefly said it in our non-spo.
Okay, so where are we at?
A lot of eights.
A lot of seven and a eights.
So we're on the same page.
Yeah.
See, when we, when I first saw it, I was an eight.
And then the second time I went down like seven point five to seven.
Some, some, I'm like somewhere in that range.
I think the, the, the threat of general Zod is just not a, there's no palpable tension at all to that.
I like, I, what I really feel like they needed to do.
was take a little bit of a note
out of how they handled Avengers Endgame
because, you know, Thanos dies in that movie
and then they have a Thanos coming back
from the past, so it's like a Zod situation, right?
And that end game did such a good job
at reestablishing the threat of Thanos all over again
to the point where when you get to that final battle,
it's still intense, you still understand the threat level and whatnot.
Whereas Zod, it really relies on you
just having seen Man of Steel.
And Karen.
Also caring about man of steel
It's not just seeing like you'd be like man I love Zahn and man of steel
And I did it
I wasn't so I was not only
I just wasn't a fan of the way Zod was portrayed
But I also thought they really failed at reestablishing Zod
So much in this movie to the point that when they got to there
I didn't even see how he was much of a threat
Until he like actually killed Supergirl
And then I was like oh okay maybe he's better this time around or something like that
And there's little things about the pacing that were really just bugging me throughout
And when it first became highlighted to me,
it was when Batman and the two flashes,
they parachute off of the plane,
and then it just cuts to, they're on the ground.
Instead of, like, seeing them parachute.
I was like, okay, all right, we're skipping a beat.
And then that kind of just keeps happening a lot,
where every scene, after they save Supergirl,
just starts becoming like, this is good enough.
Like, move on.
This is good enough.
And that's why I feel like the studio is there.
They don't even get a moment.
with like Supergirl suit, you know?
It's just like cut to her wearing the suit.
And even she's like, I don't care about humanity.
Five minutes later, I'm here to help humanity, you know?
It just starts moving so fast.
And then even when they get to the multiverse collision at the end, I'm like,
there was nothing really set up about this to be a finale threat, you know?
And I, look, guys, the reason I'm talking so much is because my issues with the movie
couldn't say in a non-spoiler, because this is obviously so spoilers.
And I want to have a more balanced.
opinion, even as I'm talking about it right now.
It's just I got some things that I'm like, I want to
clarify what I want to talk about.
I had that hard of a time doing it on spoiler ever.
Yeah, almost every scene didn't finish.
Yeah, that's a good point.
They were so like, just quick,
get it over with it. It started becoming that way,
especially after they save Supergirl.
And there's a four hour cut. Sorry, John.
Oh, no, no, you're good. It's a movie to me that feels
like the parts are greater than, the sum of the parts
is greater than the whole. It's like there are a lot of great
scenes, beats, moments, but like the whole.
hole that they turn into
doesn't feel as well-rounded as certain
moments do
you know and I think like on the second viewing I was like okay
like for a movie that has to chop chop
through the second half like it could be worse
it could be choppier but it is very
apparent or it feels like a lot of stuff
was changed remixed et cetera and there
are so many scenes where you could tell like by the way
people are facing like oh there was more
dialogue or something here that got excised
yeah it was kind of like that
throughout
you know what I got a big
Good question. Big question.
Yes.
How come Barry never bothered to find out who killed his mom?
Because that's the sequel.
He just didn't have time to run over after dropping off some fixing the tomatoes on the shelf.
Be like, who's the one to kill my mom?
How come Barry doesn't...
He just never could have found out who that was?
Real answer?
Sequel, my answer in Head Cannon was, I think he thought then he would try to change it.
Like, my rationale was that he would know who it was.
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, wouldn't you then?
want to act on it?
I feel like with the amount of power he has in the movie, I'm like,
he would at least want to feel like, okay, let me try to convict this guy in my present time.
Yeah, but that's a huge change because then his mom dies.
Oh, I like it.
No, I'm saying after his mom was leaving and find out who actually killed his mom.
Michael C. Hall is yellow flash.
So, yeah, it would be reversed.
I mean, yeah, okay, the answer is reversible.
It is.
But the movie plays it like it was as someone who just broke in and stabbed it.
Which is what you think.
Yeah, that's the rationale.
But it was reverse flash, which I think was supposed to be the sequel, which, according to the box office, will not occur.
But I hope that Sasha Akaye gets to play Supergirl again.
I didn't, I left, I think the reason it's grown on me is the, you're right.
The pieces are what I think of.
And Enimushiyadi has said there's a four-hour cut.
I think that might be the movie that, like, I would love to experience.
But when I think of the pieces, I'm so impressed by the pieces.
I think it went up from that, like, C-plus to be minus-ish.
But that's also so tricky in just the scope of DC.
there's like an anti-bell curve of DC
for me because DC is
a different animal of how their movies go
really, really low to really, really high.
They don't have an average.
If you look at DC and whether you agree
with which ones you think are A's
and which ones you think are Fs,
you inherently think some are like tens
and some are twos because there are Snyder fans
and there are DC fans and there are some that are both
but rarely do they agree which one is their best
that's why ranking these movies
because it's so vitrolic.
But there is nowhere to put flash,
which is that's the fascinating thing to me
is it's like,
I had more of a good time watching this than most DC films.
I was more joyous.
So that inherently is going to be high,
but it is a movie that doesn't have scenes that end
because there's a four-hour movie out there.
Well, we, okay, all right, so sweet.
I want to make sure, because I feel like this is my fault,
I totally kicked this off with negatives.
I was trying to bring it back.
I really was like trying to.
I don't want to.
There's so much right.
I don't want to, yeah, there is a lot that I think does click.
And so, yeah, but John, I mean, again, I mean, what other.
Guys, I've seen that we've got so many super chats that I do want to get to those.
Thank you.
Really do appreciate it a lot.
Obviously, they, like, live stream playbacks don't ever really have, like, good CPMs.
So, you know, the super chats really do help out with the channel.
A clicks per minute?
Cost per meal.
It's just, yeah, it's what the ad revenue is on a playback.
So, yeah, no, they really do help out a lot.
So thank you guys.
And also created some fun audios for the ones who are 10.
dollar super chats $15.10 and up. $15 and up and $25 and up.
Great. I got some fun audios for you guys. You're going to like it. John, name some positives
to flow us and then we're going to get to some super chats. Yeah, because we've got to talk about some things in here. Dark Flash at the end. We got to talk about that Batman. George Clooney cameo.
Who shatty's doing Batman? We've got to talk about more of the cameos. And, but yeah, Johnny, what other positive? What are some positives that you felt? Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
I think the best thing in the movie certainly is just the emotional core with Barry.
And for me, with Andy Muscietti, one thing I've been waiting for and hoping for is to see more of just his voice and personality in some of these movies.
And I thought that the stuff with Barry and Nora especially, and I could be projecting, but it feels like that was kind of informed by and ripped from his own life.
And I thought that stuff was really sweet.
And I love the sort of aspect of culture they added on top of that.
I thought while the two berries, there are times when the effects are very noticeable.
the 80% of the timeish
for me, you know, that it was
working, it was really working and
very impressive. And the acting. Like, he
has to go on a hero's journey in
two different directions, which I think is genius, because
heroes, stories are always that, like,
young Ian hero's journey. And you've got
a young one going on the, just don't be annoying
arc. And then you've got the mature one
going on, like, how do I become a hero and accept
the fact that I have to let my mom die?
I have to effectively kill my mother in order
to save the world. So you've got just maturity
and then true maturity. So it's like,
maturity of life, maturity of hero,
and they both cause each other.
It's this really beautiful.
And those are the moments that I think it goes higher for me
because it's just thinking of the causality of that
and the acting required to do,
and the directing.
You have to direct a whole movie with the young one,
direct a whole movie with the mature one
because they're not, you know, the haircut and all the changes.
And then also he has to act opposite, not him,
because he doesn't exist.
There's only one, Ezra.
And that's such powerful acting to receive nothing
from your counterpart, to be able to act off nothing
and have that fully formed versions of you.
so impressive for the acting.
And then Sasha, like, there's so much love for her in here.
And that makes me happy.
Because if you think about it, she's the only character that's new.
We have so much love for Affleck and Keaton and Ezra's played this character before.
And then she's taking on a role that people are like, rah, Cavill.
Like, everyone is wanting Cavill, and she's able to come in and be this positive, like, Sasha.
Yeah, because they don't give her a lot to do.
Whenever she's there.
Like, Sasha actually, I feel like, does a stupendous job, considering the fact that she is not given a lot to do.
And I know that's a default for a lot of people, but it's also really impressive what she's been able to pull off with that one, with the limited screen time that she has.
Like 12 minutes to 15 minutes.
Like she's not in it that much.
Because, yeah, you could feel that brewing rage underneath her, but you also don't feel like she's villainy.
I do have a question, though.
A big question for the chat.
Can you guys help me out here?
One, they left the suit with her in her little prison.
Whatever.
I'll accept that.
Two, was she captured immediately upon arriving on Earth, and she's been there the entire time?
Because I understand, I get it, what they're going for.
It's a riff on when Superman is captured in the Flashpoint comic.
But one thing I loved about that Superman portrayal is that he really feels like an alien entity that does not know humanity.
And so you're kind of like, oh shit, should we have awoken this guy?
A creature, a creature raised in captivity.
But in here, I'm like,
and this seems like they're pretty acquainted with, like,
they speak the language.
I felt like she was protecting Cal that was coming,
and then once he got there,
she never was able to do it,
so she wasn't hiding.
That was the vibe I got,
and then she got captured.
Right, that's the vibe I was.
The other thing I was thinking was,
let me conclude some things at the moment.
Let me just go ahead and tell you how much.
At all.
As the screenwriter, Christina Hopps, what I realize, and this is a funny movie to talk about too, because I don't know what to attribute anything to in terms of the writer or the director or just studio, whatever.
But, yeah, when it comes to that part of the story, like, God, I just completely lost my train of that.
What was the last thing you said?
The Sasha kidnapped.
Yeah, like with her, I had to wonder if it was related to.
I really like the Michael Keaton explanation of time lines and the spaghetti thing.
And that made me wonder, because Calell, you know, as we know him by this time with Zod, is like an adult man.
And she seems like a teenager.
So I was also like, when did you get here in relation to when they sent Calell?
Because if you guys were here at the same time, you would either be older or they sent him later.
And so I couldn't tell if she was supposed to be older than the child or if she was going to, like, grow up parallel and watch out for him.
so I kind of got confused as to like the whole context of how her character existed
and then on top of that was like okay and then how does her like understanding of our speech work
and all that stuff I definitely gathered that she was older and has been here a while
because when he said like you know the child did not survive the procedure she she had
seemed to be looking for him at least some so that implies she's been here and also been in prison
because you can't look for him in prison so like though that's her being here a bit and
I assume she was at least like 15 years old okay that's fair enough and yeah people are saying
There's reason behind my logic.
She was older when she arrived.
Hey, Bucky Barnes, thanks for being here.
That's how it felt.
And also, guys, if you can leave a like on the stream, that would be great.
Yeah, but overall, I mean, I know we kicked off with some negatives
what makes it sound like we really don't like the movie.
Overall, I think the movie, though, it's saved a lot by fun and, and intention, you know,
like there's, I think at the end of the day, there is a fervent approach to the way
Muscietti went about it, regardless
if there's some editing choices
that I'm like, it's really obvious you had to
bear shit down, you know? I still
think the passion is on display.
I still think there's a lot of love
and care put into it
despite whatever some people
feel about the CGI, which of course does
bother me from time to times.
Weirdly, this is a
strange movie for me with the CGI
because I am
one of those people who I'm like,
oh no, that's bad.
not that bothered by it
only with the Ezra faces when it bothered me
when I could really see it was like an emotion
but most of the time
I could but okay like when it didn't work for me
with the cameos it did nothing for me emotionally
because they're not characters and I was just like
yay they animated them in here that's cool
but they don't it's like looking at space jam
new legacy people like they put on costumes
but they're not a character
they're not actually there you know so
that did nothing to make a tantam
tangible for me.
So those did nothing for me, but really the speed force that a lot of people, which
looks like, you know, yeah, they do look like PS3 faces.
Yeah.
The chronosphere?
At the same.
At the same time, it didn't bother me because that actually felt intentional to me the
way they look in the speed.
Not when you're showing Nick Cage, who's supposed to be exactly from a multiverse and he's
peeking in and watching the actions happen.
Sure.
I'm talking about like the different variations.
different times it could be happening and stuff like that actually didn't bother me because
something felt purposeful about that effect one thing would have when you get a brief chance to
examine it too there's like a cool flip book layering that they yeah and they cascade down and up
i i would have one thing would have made a lot of it better for me just one thing is if after the
baby shower scene the baby that came out of the microwave was a real baby then it would have implied
to me that in the speed force the perception berry has of these things is that that weird
CGI versus the baby
stayed like Allie McBeal baby when
they were not speedy and I was like oh
that's just bad CGI baby but if the
baby shower was like because he's so fast
they look different that would have been
a reasoning so then when it wasn't
I was like oh that's just bad baby
yeah I mean they
I guess you don't want to put a real baby of any kind
in any microwave real or fake
because they cut to him holding a real
baby but when he pulls it out you're like that
you put that baby in a microwave
yeah I'm still conflicted about the C
CG faces, but, uh, yeah, like it is...
Love the baby shower scene, other than the...
I feel like they probably...
I like the baby shower scene.
I thought it was so funny.
So dark.
The asses flying at the baby was so funny.
And the first time I saw it, I was filled with a sense of cool.
Because I like the Flash show.
I mean, I liked what I saw originally.
I saw the first four seasons that I gave up.
Substantial.
But there were sequences even in the Flash show.
I was like, that's really cool that they're doing this on TV.
I wonder what they could do with a movie.
And a lot of times, like when he first...
Like, that first speed force run is immaculate to me.
Sure.
Like, even though it's sure looks cartoony, I still think it's awesome as hell.
And I love that they can really capture the distance of him going from, oh, my God.
Central City, Gotham, yeah.
Star City's Arrow.
Sorry, okay.
Central City to Gotham and how they really capture that distance.
And the baby shower moment was great.
But, well, and it's a scene, when I realized, too, is that prologue is really cool because it's a scene within a scene,
within a scene and then it all wraps back around to the sandwich guy and like there's a lot of
really fun and clever like dilated scenes like that scene within a scene within a scene
yeah exception and neat which is fun and it's in the spirit of the flash and heirsey finally got
to play she got to show up and provide exposition i was happy for kirstie to get to be iris west
all right guys um we got some super chats i definitely want to catch up on they're coming in right
Thank you guys.
So what I wanted to ask you guys in the chat, the big hype going into this movie was Michael Keaton, more than anything else.
Michael Keenan.
So can you guys spam in the chat for MWA?
Nine out of ten.
Nine out of ten.
Just tell us it was a nine out of ten.
Press nine.
Out of ten, what would you say you thought of Michael Keedon's return?
Ha ha.
Batman.
Let's see what I did there, Coy.
So good, dude.
See what I did, Coy?
Did he rise?
Did he return?
The whole dang thing, man.
He'll play him forever.
I liked Michael Keaton.
I thought he did a fine job.
The second time it played a lot smoother to me meeting him
because the first time with him, you know,
I get you got the mystery of the buildup,
like, oh, who's under that, all that hair?
A stunt double.
But the second time.
A very young stunt double.
The second time I was able to dream.
in his performance, because he's doing sort of
a more subtle performance, and I appreciate
because, you know, Barry's so big.
People loved him.
I do think there are aspects of, like, you could remove
him, and not all the things would change
necessarily, but I did like him, and I thought
he did a really nice job. Like, he showed up
certainly for this movie. The writing
of the time paradox was genius. I think that's, like,
maybe the most succinct explanation I've ever seen a
multiverse be explained, and I have craved spaghetti sense.
I've actually bought spaghetti and have not yet cooked it, but I
have spaghetti. But I love the retrocausal thing.
It's genius.
Not only was the mom dying about tomato sauce and spaghetti was the family meal, but then spaghetti is the time travel.
There's so much great spaghetti.
Not since 8 Mile.
I thought of spaghetti this much.
I do love his Batman fight.
As much as you're like, that's definitely not Michael Keenan.
Because you see, like, what thing with the other Batman that we've gotten since, like, Christian Bale, you can fathom that might be Christian Bale underneath the suit.
You can fathom that's Ben Affleck.
You can fathom that's Robert Pattinson.
when Michael Keenan's kicking ass, you're like,
that ain't Michael King.
Especially fighting the giant when he's like hopping around.
He gets to the ground, he's really tired.
But it's still a really cool fight.
Oh, it's a great sequence.
It's a great.
It's like the actual martial arts of it all was awesome.
And it felt like it continued from 8 to 9 because he didn't have
kryptonite.
He didn't have any way to fight these things.
So it was like, what if that Batman stopped fighting soon after we left him
and then had to do this out of nowhere?
Like the old tech worked.
I would have loved to see Marlon Wayans.
At the same time.
Yeah.
That would have been a hell of a camera.
Can you imagine Marlon Wayans?
That would have been out.
You guys don't know he was originally robin.
And still gets residuals.
Oh, my God, does he?
Marlon Wayans gets money for Batman.
Good.
As he deserved, he got cast.
He's been my favorite Wayans brother for a long time.
I met Billy D. Williams at a con and I didn't have him sign anything Lando because he's my two-face.
So he's signed a two-face comic for me and it's one of my prize possessions.
Absolutely it is.
We're so close.
Well, yeah, guys.
All righty.
So let's kick this off.
All right.
We got Dakota Joe.
With a 10.
Let's hope this doesn't blow out anyone's eardrums.
You let me know.
Run, Barry.
Run to the Super Chats.
Hey.
We'll never know.
We can't hear it.
But you can.
It's so weird.
On our end, we can't hear it.
Did you hear it?
And was it deafening.
They all were right before we went live.
I tried them multiple times.
Let us know if it's too loud.
Made me chuckle every time.
I see this really quick.
I'm excited
You can read his thing
Well I do
Okay
Dakota
Yeah
Thanks John
Sorry
You said I can read it
Immediately walks
He said
I love this movie
Seen Ben again
Was a highlight
And loved his opening scene
Wish we had more time
With Dark Flash
And Supergirl
Was that Ezra
It looked like Matthew Modine
And me
In some shots
Yeah
I liked
I liked Ben
Affleck's action scene
there are parts about when
he's getting tossed around
on the freeway that don't
it didn't bother me as much
the second time but at first time I'm like there's like
no weight to the way he moves around here
and he's like the second he gets off the bike
there's like no weight to the way he moves
yeah
Ben Affleck really raved about that Wonder
Woman moment before
like he said if I'm not mistaken
that was the moment he figured out
the moment he figured out
to play Batman
and maybe it's the way
it's cut together
but I'm like
I don't know
this feels like
real Justice League shit
to me
it feels like
when she leaves
there was like a conversation
between him and Barry
that got
like snipped out
and then Barry's just like
I gotta go get my sandwich
buy it's Superman was in that scene
I think the opening
was like a Justice League
not just two of them
I think it was everyone
and then they had to cut around it
and I don't like
the bat suit
honestly when he's standing
in the on the
I'm not
a fan of the way the bat suit looks.
I wish they just kind of kept what they did
with Zach Snyder's Justice League or BVS.
Something that was like, I mean,
you needed a kind of armored suit to explain
how he's surviving, tumbling on the freeway.
Like, I understand that,
but it wasn't a huge fan of look.
I did like his Ben Affleck, you know,
just him being Bruce Wayne scene.
Loved his Bruce in this.
Again, felt like that was probably a longer scene.
But it does set up
the idea of, you know, like,
these experiences is what made you and you can really see that the second you interact with young
Barry who did not experience the trauma you know I also love that how that paralleled with
what the difference in the bruce's would be because with with young Bruce Ben Affleck's older young
Bruce we see him kind of addressing how he would interact with trying to save and how like he's just
lonely and he's sad and he's broken and then we see a fully sad lonely Bruce but he actively
wants to help as soon as he's like wait you
did the thing I couldn't do.
And I love that Ben Affleck's Bruce is just like kind of more broken because he doesn't
ever even get hope.
He doesn't even get that S.
Like he just stays like removed whereas Keaton's like, you know, you brought me back.
This is the bringing full circle.
What you were able to do is the thing I couldn't accomplish.
Whereas Ben Affleck is a totally different take on that character.
That I felt.
But I did think that like the humor was cut by the edit.
And I do feel like Ben Affleck and Mochietti shot way more that is the stuff Ben Affleck.
Definitely.
Definitely.
What did you think of Ben Affleck?
I liked Ben Affleck.
I liked his later scene with Barry most of his appearance.
That was the scene where I was like,
okay, I could tell he sort of figured that I thought of that thing he said,
and I didn't realize it was from the Wonder Woman scene.
But yeah, I liked the opening with him a lot better the second time.
The first time, it was sort of like, okay,
like this feels very sort of impersonal in a way or something.
There was something about the business's usual quality
that he was doing it with that clicked way better,
for me the second time
because this movie does in some ways
remind me of watching
a DC animated movie
and that's one of the first thing
that was exactly what we said yeah
yeah and and Batman
in some of those moments
can be sort of like business as usual
like just let me handle this Barry you know
but yeah I liked that opening scene
a lot more the second time around
and it kind of
it captured that fun of like oh yeah
the Justice League is around doing Justice League stuff
yeah and and yeah and then
and also too you commented about
a dark flash which was something
that I you know as like predictable
as it is I thought they could have made something
like really fun and interesting out of that
and something kind of rich out of that
and it was a bummer not to be able
to because too they just give him so many like mannerisms
and he's like drooling everywhere
and he's yeah there's just something interesting
about that and you're thinking
about Matthew Modin what struck me about
Ezra Miller in this is
there's so many times where
the effect you can kind of tell but what I
realized is there are shots where they're
not both in the same scene. It's just
like a close-up on one Barry
and they'll have a totally CG face.
And that's the part that I was like, what is
why do we have like a Batman's mustache
thing or Superman's mustache thing
going on with Barry's face when
there's nobody else in the shot even.
It's like in the plane and stuff like that.
Well, thank you, Dakota.
Is male Montoya?
Oh, someone's like you're too picky.
We either love everything or we're too picky.
It's always the case, right?
Shills, haters. We're both.
We wish we got just one more Ben Affleck scene, but it's still, it's always nice to just see him.
And I did like all his bike sequences a lot.
We also saw him get to be Bruce Wayne getting out of an SUV at the premiere, and I was like, that's Bruce Wayne.
Yeah.
Ismail Montoya.
Hey, guys, not my favorite multiverse movie, but okay.
I still understand how they jump to a different Earth without choosing its number.
It's a good question.
I'm sure Koi has a justification.
So in the comic books, there's this actually really fun concept of Earth 1, Earth 2, all these
things. And we have that idea
for years since the first crisis. The crisis
in D.C. is kind of like a reboot of the whole
system. So infinite crisis, crisis, and
Earth, there's all these things. And one of them, the most
iconic one is Supergirl dies. And they try to
reset all continuities and they end up like
renumbering the comics in our, in our
continuity, like in our world, as a way to
mirror that. But what's fun is, every
earth thinks it's Earth one.
So there's this really good, like, running joke of like,
yeah, how would you number them? It's not like we all call
each other. So everyone thinks they're one,
but everyone else labels them other ones. So
there is no numbering system except for the one that that own universe labels because there's no
communication between them so there's like maps and stuff where batman has like these things but
you don't like pick it in this case barry was thrown out of it and landed in a different
chronal timeline because of his own choices but like that earth wouldn't be labeled anything except
earth one to them just as our earth wouldn't be anything but earth one to us yeah see it's
explained in the movie had an answer for you said i wouldn't have did right johnny
Oh, Johnny's saying
Cameos are knowing an actor in the film beforehand
I only knew about
I had only heard of like one or two rumors
But I didn't know half the things that were going to appear here
I heard about
I mean everything was kind of semi-ruined for me
It was ruined for me
Well I mean the Nick Cage one
I heard a Superman cameo
And then in my notification bells
someone put Nicholas Cage
I was scrolling Instagram
Damn it I managed to avoid that
Until someone said Nicholas Cage
I was watching one of those things where he breaks down his career
And somebody asked him about Superman and he was like
You know he said something about like
I mean I would love to do I mean like it could happen
Like not for very long but you never know
And I was like I bet he's in the flag
I'm like that's a spoiler Nick Cage
I was like he didn't say it at all but I was like
You left that one little piece of openness I bet you have a camera
me own this movie.
So I knew the George Clooney because of other people in our space that like to ruin things.
Well, the George Clooney one, I mean, they were, I think it was Grace Randolph who put out that she was hearing about people.
And then, you know, like, they put out like several Batman.
And I was like, well, I don't think Christian Bale's going to do it.
Not without Nolan.
I feel like it would be George Clooney.
And people, I don't know how many people thought it would be George Clooney as well.
But to me, it just made the most sense based off of everything Christian Bail has said.
I was like, the one who's more likely to have fun with this is going to be George Clooney.
And that's the funniest one.
It's like the best use of that show being comedic.
It does raise some questions.
I thought the post-crediting had to answer those questions.
How?
So in the post-credit scene?
Put an answer at all.
Okay, we'll get to it.
Hold that thought.
Get some beers.
Put a pin in.
Hold that thought because Saint is saying, Coy reminds me as Sean Chandler half the time.
Do the point?
Sean Chandler.
Which way does he?
Oh, he does the crossover point.
I just met him at Megacom.
That guy's delightful.
Yeah.
Shot Jamlin.
I like that guy.
To me, Christian Unpronounceable is saying, thank you so much.
Yeah, I think Flashpoint Paradox is still the best one.
It's also exactly like the comic.
They use the storyboards that are comics.
And it managed to be a full-length feature film.
It's amazing.
Christian Unpronounceable, thank you so much.
Christian, to me, though, want to get nuts lied, felt very shoehorned in.
It doesn't make any sense.
He says it as Bruce Wayne to the Joker, which makes sense because he's dealing with that moment,
and he's literally doing a commentary on him being nuts.
Why would Batman, it's not a catchphrase Batman has?
Why would later, 40 years later, is like, remember that thing?
I said under duress when Joker kidnapped, I'm going, I'm going, it doesn't make sense.
Hated it.
I mean, it's...
I didn't love that line.
I don't mind it.
Pure nostalgia.
It didn't make sense.
Why would he say it?
Why would he quote him?
Who quotes himself except for I'm Batman?
I mean, what was the point of him going, yeah, I'm Batman?
To me, that made less sense.
That's what I'm like, we, we learned already that he's Batman.
Because the girl earlier shows on Batman, because that's what Batman says.
Because Young Barry doesn't realize still.
Young Barry, no, when they're eating the spaghetti, he says, wait, you're Batman?
Love that scene.
But he's still, like, surprised.
They're in the Batcave for a long time.
The thing that got me about the Want to Get Nuts line, the thing, it wasn't actually the line itself.
It's his following line where he's, like, over there at the controls and he's like, you know,
For the record, I can't remember what the line is.
But he's like, for the record, I think this is insane.
And I'm like, you were just down a minute ago.
You literally were like, let's get in us.
Yeah.
Which is it, Keaton?
Yeah, I thought.
You're not doing this against your will.
I thought in the trailers, that's when the line was going to be used.
I didn't think that actually used it was to be, when it was to get him hit with some lightning.
I thought it was a trailer moment.
I didn't think it would be in the movie.
You know, it was funny?
I was looking at our trailer reaction.
And we caught the footage where Supergirl was carrying flash.
to the sky.
Yeah.
And you were,
you were sad,
like,
I wonder if he's taking her up there
to,
taking him up there
to get to get shot
because he needs more lightning.
Yeah.
And I was,
I was just like laughing
about that.
And then it happened in the film.
Like,
oh,
that's exactly what happened.
Look at the bell.
He does have to shock him
to get his powers back.
And Supergirl has to take him up there.
And it was,
I mean,
I loved that moment because it was so
emotionally cathartic,
but if we'd had one more
Sasha Kaye scene,
it would have been,
like,
there's just so much that could be.
I want a three-hour cut
between the two and the four.
Mushietti cut.
Moushietti cut.
Cameron Dane Scott, he's got two, five dollars so.
Run, Barry.
Run to the Super Trots.
Cameron Dane Scott.
Thank you for the endless hours of content.
I'm going through a little canon event right now.
My dog passed away last week.
That fucking sucks.
Sorry, dude.
I'm sorry.
John has lost a couple of dogs.
Uh, we lost her family dog a few months ago.
That was hard.
Sorry.
That was extremely hard.
Yeah.
Uh, it was there in the room when it happened.
Oh.
And have you lost,
I have.
My childhood dog passed when my third year in L.A.,
so I was like freshly away from home.
So it was really hard to, like, not be there.
And I had gone to visit her like six months before, so that was kind of nice.
But I, like, that dog slept in my bed with me throughout, like, from five to 20.
So.
It's hard, man.
Uh, I broke it with my fiancee of six years.
Ooh.
Well, it's better that happens before you get married.
Yeah, sure.
It's not easy.
Better it happens before marriage.
Every stance.
Wish we could give you a big old bear hug, all the three of us.
Continues to say, not every problem has a solution.
You have no idea how great it has been to sit back and listen to you guys during these dark times.
Thanks, much love.
Well, thank you, Cameron, Day, and Scott for being here.
And I hope things get better for you.
It's not easy, but you can survive the turbulent times.
It makes you a stronger person in the United States.
then. I love that people have that
kind of like catchphrase
terminology for them to get through these
dark moments. I think the beauty of this movie
is that not everything has a solution. I think one of the
big, like, there's thousands of beautiful things about Spider-Verse,
but I do love the message of like trauma
does change you, and it can
be for the better. I feel like Barry doesn't
fully learn that lesson.
Really? Because he moves
to camera. I'm like, dude,
he moves the cans. He moves the cans
to get him to look up, and he's still
messing with time. Which is why there's George. He literally,
He came back.
But he's only affecting his present.
But he's still...
But with the whole retro causal thing, if you change...
He still goes to a different timeline because George...
That proved that, like, just the can change something.
Let's talk about this George thing.
George proves that.
Yeah, George proves he said not back home.
I thought George Clooney was the same person as...
Okay, let me try to understand this.
I don't think this Michael Keaton is the continuation of the Tim Burton one.
I feel like this is an alt universe of that happens to have the, the imagery of the Tim Burton one.
Yeah, variants can look at life.
I don't feel, yeah, that's what I think's happening.
So are they implying that like Batman Forever and Batman and Robin are not the continuations of the Michael Keenan films?
Because I thought that's what we were doing with George Clooney with, you know, in Batman and Robin.
so do you get what I'm getting at? I have always thought that with this explanation of time,
the actor that plays Alfred, Michael Go, being all four of the movie's first Alfreds, imply that
Alfred is one of those crossover points in the spaghetti, that they are different universes.
So Batman 1 and 2 is one universe, Kilmer's another.
Because they do put an emphasis on the Alfred.
On the Alfred. And then in the Kilmer one, they do reference an event that had happened before in Michael, in Michael Keaton's.
But I think that was one of those incidents that happens in every universe.
I think there's two movies, one in one movie, and then this is another, is my take.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Batman should shave.
It's really easy to identify what Batman is when he's got a big white movie.
That's true.
Santa Man.
But can you imagine that goatee sticking out of the cowl?
It would be beautiful.
I wish we had.
Burton versus Snyder's a lot of them.
But I honestly feel like George Clooney would be a fine Batman.
If they give him a second shot, I'd be down.
Yeah, because now is the time.
But I would be so down for it.
I would, like, an Adam Westy one?
Like, a nice fun, like, zoinks.
I would even be down for him to return in a, from Dust Till Dom, one of those, like, old man, Seth Gecko's kind of sequels.
I think that would be cool.
Batman Beyond George Clooney.
That would be great.
Him behind the chair, just like, oceans are leavening in his way through stuff.
I'd love that, charming voice.
Well, I bet he could have his Ben Affleck moment of, like, this is what taught me really how to play Bruce.
I would love that.
Saint.
Saint is saying.
I think I like Zod Moore and Manistiel.
Oh, absolutely.
He doesn't feel the same here.
In fact, I had to question a tiny bit where he was having certain moments that came in so late into the film.
And I was like, wait, I thought Michael Shannon returned.
Because are they just repurposing him?
Because he looks fake.
That's a freaking mask, man.
It makes him look all plastic.
It was when he was having his interaction with Kara.
I was like, oh, yeah, no, this is a man of steel.
It's definitely all new.
Look, he's talking.
These are new words.
I must be.
I have to question it.
That's so funny.
They're like, oh, no, this is really him.
He showed up.
Well, I definitely felt like he wanted more out of the role because he's talked very openly about not being happy with, like, what he got.
But I also think that, like, when you put this many things in a movie and it's not for hours.
Why didn't he follow Supergirls?
See, that drove me crazy.
Stuff like that didn't hit my noggin until the second viewing were these, like, little things.
After a while, like, little things on the, here's what happened.
First viewing, little things moved past.
I'm having fun.
second viewing these little things are really stacking up and to the point where I'm like now I'm just seeing a big list
so that's kind of what happened for me you know um but every line of us like I just I have fun and I'm like watching
also the way the visuals translate on an IMAX format is gorgeous it's really gorgeous it's kind of
crazy how some movies now like have this necessitation to see on IMAX and I'm like I think there's a there's got to be a little bit of a
line with cinema now where not every movie
like we saw Spider-Verce on a regular screen
yeah and it was stunning still gorgeous
yeah that movie is too pretty it's better on
iMacs but it didn't need iMacs
right you know but there's a lot of movies now we're like
well you need I should probably like you know you have to see
this on I like Oppenheimer yeah so the effects hold up on IMAX
oh for sure yeah because I've seen
because I've seen movies where IMAX actually kind of
hurts the effects like
like Quantimania was way better
on a less good screen and I saw
it last night for this movie on a
less good screen and had like a slightly better time with that stuff.
That's funny.
Wait, shent.
We got ourselves.
Whoa.
Wait.
Wait, everyone.
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
I love his name.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, but once we get to a 15, you'll hear the other one.
I love the name.
I don't remember what my audio was that I created for this.
Holy shit.
That super chat's huge.
We can hear the big one.
Did you guys hear it?
I hope we all did.
That was great.
Great sound bite.
Yes.
Excellent work.
I liked it.
We have no response.
30 seconds always.
It's going to catch you out.
If you weren't able to hear it.
It played.
All righty.
Verify, damn it, people.
Someone.
Okay.
There's some laughs.
The antagonist of the film is time and consequences.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think thematically that works.
At the same time, I think it kind of loses a tad bit of a tad bit of
of its emotional heft and focus on that.
It gets a little muddied in there because they're like rescue, you know, we got to find
Batman, we got to rescue Supergirl, then we got to fight Zod.
So that is the real antagonist.
That's why I think the Speed Force finale, despite the fact that I didn't really feel like
this multiverse collision was something they were really setting up, but I feel like we've
seen so many multiverse things that you're like, yeah.
I got to collide
That's what happens in these things do.
I still really felt the drama of that
and the gravitas of that,
especially when you see that young Barry,
who is more ego-to-
what I thought they did really well
with, and I feel like this is where I kind of debate
with some people, is young Barry,
you know, he just becomes like so
stern fast in the way like,
we got to do this, we got to power, like,
because Flash did not have,
our Flash did not,
have a mentor he did not have a guy to this and this young barry who's already just so much more
privileged and spoiled and arrogant and amnoxious and is getting these powers and is getting a quick
handle on them especially because he has the fact that he gets mentored and he just gets the best of it he's like
i just got no no no i can't deal with this i don't know how to process i've got to go we got to go we got
to fix this we got fix it so i actually really like that whole speed force scene where he is just going
back in time constantly and and he he's not learning his lesson one more time i can
can fix this so much to the point that he has to see what he becomes in order to stop it yeah i really
appreciate that it's a man versus self story at its core and consequences are like you said the true
crux of what our reality is our reality like our reality yeah and i really appreciate that we
have young berry who like you said is more entitled who who is a little bit more like i can do whatever
i want i don't have this loss and we have our berry the regular one that lost everything having to
mature but what i really love about that third berry is
Not only did he feel like he could do anything because he didn't have that realization,
but the person that he started as matured because of Arbery,
so therefore when he gets killed by himself,
that maturation hadn't and wouldn't have occurred,
causing that paradox that negates everything.
And I think that's a really beautiful message of almost your Uncle Ben scenario.
So he had to have a mentor in some way, whether that's lost,
whether that's a canon event, whether that's a mentor.
But he had to have that thing in order to become the hero that he was meant to become.
and that negates him becoming a villain.
I think that's a really beautiful message of,
these are three ways your life can go,
and one thing can change everything.
And that story is genius.
It just had a lot of stuff around it.
Yeah.
So as we continue to read this off,
John, you want to read up the rest of that?
Yeah, Zod, Dark Flash,
the Russians, they're there for action and tension,
but this movie doesn't work that way while I watched it.
It was a bit more personal, surprisingly,
with all the added cast members.
Yeah, I, like, there are so many ways to look at this,
And I do think that, yeah, you're right.
It's like, it's not necessarily about these figures so much as it is about what kind of emotional conflicts or how they exacerbate these entire mess that, you know, Barry has created here.
But, yeah, it's like it's a bunch of big stakes that are also, like, really referential.
And I think there just pulls your attention around sort of, because there are also just like a lot of really great small moments within that time and consequences theme.
And I love to, like, you even get that little flourish of Eric Stoltz, yeah.
And, like, I love that you have Barry looking at himself and he like snaps at himself and then also has that realization of, like, I've talked to people in life who have like met younger people and then gone, oh, I can see myself now.
And I can see what people have been saying to me.
And now this all hits so much harder.
And I love that they included that in this.
I also feel like it's a commentary on how the fans reacted to Ezra's Flash.
Like, the first movie, he's a lot.
And I feel like having him mature was a great reaction to the audience wanting Barry Ellen to...
This Barry is a step closer to the Barry Allen of the comics.
He's still not there, but it's closer.
Yeah.
You mean the Barry that the Barry that we follow.
Mature Barry is closer to comic Barry than original Barry.
And I like that that's all on screen.
Yeah, I think when the movie is...
I'm a much bigger fan of everything outside of...
Even when the scene when he's discovered that there's no meta-humans,
and stuff. I find that really tense.
And while I think Batman's a lot
of fun in this movie, Michael Keenan's Batman,
and I really liked Sasha Kai's
presence in here. And I even,
I like the final
fight battle.
The needle drop was so good. A lot of shit.
Light stripes, Rackintors. Rackintors.
You're such a good needlegras.
They thanked Jack, so I think he gave
them stems to just completely remix the
song. That final fight
gets a lot of crap I've noticed.
But I think that, I think that,
you know like zod killing them off was great i like batman's action scenes does he get like the
i don't know if his death is like super impactful but whatever that still hit enough for me in that
moment that had leg makes a superman and i like the um i like when him and bear the two berries are
working together i think that that's really fun at that point i'm already been seeing past so much
whatever like there's a lot of complaints about the cg i and i get it like it's not it's not the
greatest.
For some reason, I'm able to really look past it.
And so, and in that final fight, I was definitely able to really look past it.
I like the final fight a lot more.
The second time, the first time that was when my brain started to liquefy.
And the second time, I was like, this is actually really cool.
But what I'm trying to say is that my favorite portions of this movie were everything
with the actual story of the emotional core of what Barry is going through, which this
movie is really focused on in the first 20 to 30, like before, back.
Batman, pretty much like before Batman, you kind of lose sight of that once Batman's there.
And then when everyone starts dying is when they really starts bringing it back around to that.
Like they talk a little bit here, like the whole thing with the monkey.
They have that scene there with the two berries with the monkey.
And then, but when it's really focused on that is when this movie really sings.
So it's like good emotional court and then their stuff is like, fun candy.
Yeah, totally, totally.
I'll just say a quick thing about the ending.
I think that it did a really beautiful third act,
DC ending like those the DC movies have that type of ending that is the big superhero ending but three
things I think it really enhanced on that was one it was like an artist jam page which is like when
different artists like you know Greg Cpulo and jim Lee are painting the same page or penciling and you see
the different styles it felt like Burton meets muscietti's flash meets zach Snyder's universe and
I really love that the three directing styles yeah bushietti was able to do like a jazz piece with
the third act and then it also uh all the orange and blue that is zach Snyder they gave it a reason with
canon. They gave blue and orange the power sets for Flash. They were able to use those colors
in a way that actually made sense instead of just visually aesthetically. And I like that
in the Zach Snyder world, Batman is so paranoid of the Croptonians because
they feel like they're really invaders. I love that Batman gets killed by a Croptonian. I thought
that was genius. So like those three things really sung from me. That's a great point. That highlights
it even more. Yeah. I feel like nobody's talking about that. You get killed by Croptonians.
So I do want to point this out in the chat really, really quick. Just spent like 30 seconds on it.
I won Pierce O'3.
You noticed it on the second viewing.
The homeless guy who, when Young Barry's first getting his powers,
and he still was a pizza or hot dog?
He still was a pizza.
It was a pizza from a machete.
Emucietti has the hot dog.
So he takes the pizza from the guy.
And then, because at the premiere.
Because we talked to him at the premiere.
And we were like, why is he here?
He was in the thank you.
He was in the credits.
I was like, why is he in the thank you?
Well, yeah.
I mean, he's in the movie Mama, which
and Emushietti directed.
Well, and Bill Scarsgard was there.
and so was a...
Yeah.
Like a bunch of the Mocietti folk.
I saw Bill Scarsgar.
I was like,
Oh, shit, Bill Scarsgar.
I didn't recognize...
I was walking out of the theater.
I had to thank Jessica Chastain
for her work on Molly's game
because it's so good.
And I was like,
oh, right.
They're friends.
But, like, it was cool
to see all the friends
to see all the friends
he made with that one movie.
Mama.
He's so talented.
Yeah.
Mushieti's so good.
Mama's a really good movie, too.
Yeah, that's what I mean,
I think that, like,
actors know when they find a good director
and I love seeing that support.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I mean, whatever the response to this movie overall and the financials and whatnot,
I'm excited for more Andy Muscietti joints still.
That man, Brave and Bold.
Yeah, which we're talking about right now.
Good transition, John.
Satvik Mahanti is saying, what's your take on Mushyetti for Brave and the Bold?
I think he won't have any issues with the action.
I really feel like with Mushietti, he's had this interesting transition where he went from, you know, like became more popular with Mama.
really popular with it
so we kind of knew him as the horror guy
yeah and he's on Flash which has like
almost no horror
and then
and then
seeing him at like the premiere
and seeing how he interacts with people he's a really
silly guy
he's a very very goofy guy
and it's the way
he just talks about things and people like he
he's very playful
and then some of the earmarks
and sensibility choices
of It Chapter 2 that kind of rub people myself included the wrong way.
I'm like, oh, this feels like Muscietti's personality.
It started making more sense.
Yeah, yeah.
It started making a lot more sense to me.
I was like watching him interact.
Like, oh, some of those It Chapter 2 choices suddenly like make a lot more sense to me.
He's also truly one of us.
And I don't feel like that gets talked about enough.
I feel like we talk about James Gunn being a comic nerd.
We talk about certain people loving these characters.
Mushiating and I talked about a bunch of comics at the premiere after party.
We literally broke down different arcs and things, and I'm not going to tell you which ones,
because I don't know what that affects, but it was really beautiful to know that he loves certain arcs that I love,
and I was able to give him a couple recommendations, so I'm really hoping that, like,
the way he is passionate about all this now, I think that's forever.
I think that him and James Gunn are working together for the passion of it,
and I think that his cheekiness will suit the Damien Wayne Bruce Wayne,
because Damien Wayne, like, John and I have fallen in love with this take on Damien,
me and Wayne in the animated movies because it allows Bruce to not be so stoic.
It allows a little bit of that, that fun that Mochieti is.
So I think him directing a family man, Bruce, and I think him getting to be that playful
guy that he is.
Like, we literally sent Greg a video like one in the morning because Andy is a guy that
like likes to interact with fans to the scale of like, let's be joyous about loving
Batman at one in the morning.
That's like so unique in the film space.
You make a movie and you're like, okay, we're done.
He's like, let's talk about it all night.
And I love that man.
I feel like Raven Bowl will be more focused.
It's just Batman and David Williams, so it's going to be more focused.
And I feel like James Gunn is really good at finding what a person's strengths are and letting them hone in on that.
He got to get his feet wet with the flash.
I think that he'll probably do a better job with Brave and Bolt.
So to me, I'm excited for it because no matter what, family man, Bruce.
I'm actually really excited for him to take on the Brave and the Bold, just because it's really quick.
I know I describe this as like being better looking at as a comedy up top, but I really do appreciate, like,
the fun comic book, you know, imaginative side of this flash movie.
And I do feel like with Mooshieti, we can get a Batman movie that is both comic book kind of fun in an appropriate way,
but that we'll also pull some of those horror aesthetics and some of those darker aesthetics.
Like, I think it'll be a really nice kind of blend of what he's clearly capable of in a big blockbuster superhero space,
but also with the, you know, dark stuff.
I agree more.
All right.
Let's see here. Tucker Wood.
Yes.
Tucker Wood.
Tuck it in.
Let's do this, Tucker Wood.
Barry.
Run to the Super Chats.
Yeah.
We can hear it.
Yeah, buddy.
We got there eventually.
We got there.
It was a way I could like.
I'll figure out of it.
Tucker Wood.
If there's a different Batman Clooney at the end,
wouldn't I mean this is also a separate universe and there should be another Barry as well?
And if so, where was he?
Why was he out of court?
It's spaghetti.
That's how they've explained.
Because Barry always left and always came back.
But someone's theorizing, a lot of theories are going that he actually landed in a completely different universe this time with Batman, with this George Clooney one.
The more I think about how this orb representation of the universes is the more questions I have, although I do quite enjoy it.
But it does seem, I guess, almost like every kind of likeness that is one particular person is sort of confined.
to a particular orb.
So, yeah, I'm a little confused as to the mechanics,
but it felt like he at least created another alternate timeline
that just has all the same events up until right now.
Like Koi explained it pretty well earlier.
Yeah.
Also, how does memory work in this thing?
Because I feel like, you know,
you would also remember if he was always Clooney all of a sudden.
So you'd have your timeline's memories because when you change space time,
you're only changing the space you're in, not the time you're in.
So your memories would still be linear,
you've lived that time, you've only changed
space. So your memories would not suddenly
like incept yourself, because otherwise
that would be changing both space and time, which isn't
how they explain the chronal effect.
Exactly. Yeah.
Beautiful. The movie answers questions, Greg.
Yeah.
Yeah, Greg.
No, like, three, two. No, I'm just
earlier you were like, this is this.
This is this. Oh, but those times you were.
No, I'm certainly making it up. And this time I might have been
too. I'm making fun of myself because I think I'm just
making things up. I just think those were dot dot dot.
All right, let's go here.
He's got two.
Run, Barry.
Run to the Super Chats.
This is the $10?
John's got a good Barry run.
Yeah, man.
You've been practicing.
Yeah.
I like it.
It's graceful.
That's how he dances, too.
Yeah.
Thought the movie was mostly good.
Love the stuff to do with Barry and his mom.
One of my biggest scraps was the CG I throughout the entire film,
especially the VFX.
used to have two berries and then we got to find your second one he said two really quick we're
not skipping anyone still worry three um is the second one yeah okay um my other problem oh my god
wait he did if he did three whoa whoa we got an upgrade this is for the 15s and up
you want to get nuts let's get nothing with super jets
Is it good, Greg?
This is it good?
Beautiful.
So, CGI cameos.
Instead of John Wesley ship or Grant Guston,
I think Grant Guston would have hit harder than anything else.
We get a generic J. Garrick and multiple Batman and Superman who are,
that's what I mean.
They're just kind of, I agree with you.
That really doesn't do any.
The Nick Cage one, I think in honor of John, especially like with John Schnapp and all that.
Yeah, there's a lot of reasons to love that.
and then that never came to fruition.
So to me, I like that more than even the Christopher Reeves one or the Adam West appearance
because that didn't actually come to life.
So it's cool to see that happen.
It is neat.
What I like about the effect similar to like what happens with George Clooney and even Supergirl,
who played her in the Christopher Reeves universe.
Hells later?
Yeah.
It's like both are hated.
Both are hated.
But there's something about seeing them recognize where you're like,
yes we can be chill about this now
other iterations she was also at the premiere and that was cool to see her get her
flowers like yeah she got introduced with the cast
it's like it's like a smaller it's like a smaller
it's like a smaller way of how like Andrew Garfield must have
felt with like oh people did like my spider
thanks guys you know and so yeah and then we've got to find
hold on I've got a thing on that as well
okay here it is yeah yeah okay oh let me just pull it up
here. And then the Spider-Verse movies had more love for Spider-Man than this movie had
for The Flash as a character. Well, it does seem kind of like...
Well, the thing is, the Spider-Verse movies have the ability of so much Spider-Man to riff on
everything we know about Spider-Man, where here this is, the Flash is just not as well-known.
This did feel like it had love for the Flash, but yeah, it is spreading the love around for
other characters. I do, I am curious as to what people think, because you have, like,
Christopher Reeve which people seem pretty excited about
but you have Christopher Reeve which is one thing
but you also have George Reeves who has like a
difficult history with the character
dude yeah when I saw that like I don't know if people realized
but George Reeve like might have killed himself because of the character
to see him come back to play the character felt like digging up a grave twice
but I thought the Nicholas Cage one was
shameless name drop Kevin Smith was at the premiere
and I had known about that moment
and when we were talking to Kevin before
the movie. He's like, what did you think? Oh, my God, because he knows how much I was excited
for this. And he was like, what do you think? I'll think. And like, the amount of willpower it took
not to tell that man that his moment that has caused so many ramifications. Like, John Peters is now
known as the spider guy. And also, like, they even put it in that PTA movie where Bradley Cooper
plays him. And one of Kevin Smith's quotes about John Peters is something Bradley Cooper says.
Like, so Kevin Smith has caused these ripples throughout time and space. So to see that
spider, I feel like, honestly, that was Mooshieti not only giving
a great Easter egg in the movie
but it felt like an industry moment
it felt like the Eric Stoltz joke
was like if you guys know time travel jokes
and it felt like the spider joke was like if you're
a deep cut nerd there were so many moments that
felt like layers of Easter egg that
I really liked the conceptual
delivery more than the actual visual
because I'm with Greg where if it looks like
this uncanny valley
I don't connect to it emotionally
but I got to go like oh a turduckin
of references that's delightful so I agree
with you with what you're saying but I think me
personally i got more out of it because of my connection to kevin and the industry and john
obviously yeah why didn't the supermen try to do anything why were they just watching stuff
happen and why was there only one and why was there only one did he take his face slash
yeah james stevens hey james hey just joined i know this isn't related to the flash
enjoyed the film and daddy cluny curious if you guys were considered reacting a succession
i think that's the show i'm just going to watch in my own time ever seen it i've heard
heard great things. I've heard it's amazing.
Did it just end? It just ended.
Definitely not going to react to it.
I appreciate the
the intrigue on that. Thank you
so much. Joe Coughlin.
Speaking of how many Saturdays, I was going to
remind Eric Stoltz about the gink you lost. That's
hilarious. That is true. Poor Eric
Stel. Freaking loser!
Marty McFey. Wait, is he alive? I think so.
Yeah, loser.
Eric Stolt, you watched this.
I'm joking.
Marty McThye, boy.
Freaking. Who lost the Wolverine?
Oh, Russell Crow
No, no, no, no.
The guy who's in M.I.
Dougray Scott.
Oh, Dick Ross Scott.
Bring a loser?
Yeah.
What do you do it now?
That bister, down.
Don't worry.
They'll bring him back
for Dead Reckoning Part 2.
Do you know that we used to Russell Crow
passed and recommended to you, Jackman?
It's my favorite Hollywood thing.
It's like literally top five
like most ridiculous.
Russell Crow had just done Gladiator.
When you think about the movie Gladiator,
do you think wolves mean either?
Apparently his like a spirit animal
or whatever the more
appropriate title for that thing is now in culture, is a wolf, and they have like a scene with
a wolf, and Russell Crow had just done gladiator, which had a wolf in it. So he thought Wolverines
were wolves, and he's like, I don't want to be known as the wolf guy. I'm not going to play
Wolverine. Similar reason why he passed on Aragorn. It was because he just a gladiator. He didn't want
to be typecast in that. Now he's doing the Pope's Exorcist. I was going to say that Aisha, Kevin
Smith is the nexus being of our universe. He really is. He's Stanley and Marats and Stanley and
Captain Marvel means all the USQ movies are canon in Marvel. Joe Coughlin.
35% of the movie. I was at a solid 6 out of 10. Then we got Nick Cage, Superman, bumped it up to a solid 9. That's what happens. What do you get? And you get a little cameo in there. Hit the thing.
Oh, my God. You're right. Okay. What are we at?
We got a tenor. We got a tenor. Run. To the Super chats.
Then we got Nick Cage, Superman. Also thoughts on who Batman can be a Batman and the brave and the bold to keep up the great work.
Nicholas Cage.
God, who would...
I think Clooney would be a good Batman
Beyond one. I think it would confuse people, though.
100%.
People would think it's the fucking like,
oh, this is good for Batman or Robin or Rob.
I think it would really confuse.
And let's face it, Dice is having a really hard time
at the box, obviously.
They need a clean sleep.
Blue Beatles's going to save it.
So that...
I don't know.
I have really...
I mean, look, I'm as big a fan of...
Polt McCallony.
Big fan of the Jensen Ackles' choice.
I'm a big fan of the Jensen Ackles choice.
I think that would be really awesome casting, honestly.
I think he could pull it off really well.
I like Jensen Ackles.
I like Milo Ventimilia.
I like, I like Jakey Jakes.
It's unlikely, but I think Jake Gyllenhaal would crush Bruce Wayne
and a paternal Batman and be dark and brooding.
Jake Busey.
Yes.
Buse Wayne.
The only problem is you'd recognize him as soon as he smiles.
Who's Bruce Wayne?
I don't know.
That creep.
He'd be a good joker, though.
Sure.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
But yeah, those are my big three.
Nice, good picks.
All righty, here we go.
Hold on one second, guys.
It's got to get readdiced.
Also, George Clooney's not going to be
the Batman and the Bremen the Bold
because that ending implies that he's in another universe,
therefore allowing the cake and eat it to
of either bringing Ezra back or not.
So that is a separate universe
by the canon of the movie itself.
That's not saying that that's guns.
Ezra's coming back.
Hold on guys.
We're so far on the stream.
You're just going to watch me refresh it.
Just checking things to make sure
we are staying on track today.
And bam, pow bang.
is not Matt Reeves Batman
because that's staying
an else world along with Joker
because that's going to stay
a more serious tone
it wouldn't work
if that interacted
with the Greater Justice League
movies.
I found myself just thinking
about the Batman.
I can't wait for the Batman.
Today?
Yeah, I just woke up like
man, the Batman.
I couldn't stop thinking about
specifically the Batman.
I've been making a video series
on TikTok and YouTube of
like if you liked this,
read this and they're doing well
but the Batman one was my most fun
because I think the tone
of Matt Reeves is the closest
to the comics I like of Batman.
So I really am excited
for the way they're keeping them separate.
Let's see here.
Chris Pine is Batman.
You make him funny.
Yeah.
I like Chris.
He's so charming, Dungeons and Dragons.
I can kind of see.
If he wasn't so high profile, I can kind of see it.
Coy does not keep up with anything.
You have like all these movies and I try to keep up.
We do so many less videos.
Mobia should have showed up.
That would have been awesome.
All righty.
We got some stream labs.
Stream labs are awesome.
They take less fees from that sound effect.
And considering that we just had Super Mario blocked again.
Again, by Universal.
The same video.
No re-edits.
The same video.
It's like, that's the most third.
Third times of charm.
He's like, okay, sure.
Why not?
They're struggling all of a sudden.
It's weird when you appeal something and then they go, all right, it's fine.
And then go, you know what?
We changed their mind.
On appeal.
We're going to block you again.
We just put FastX out on On Demand.
We need to recoup this stuff.
Let's see here.
Jaden Stevens.
Hey guys.
O.P. Blake, action.
Nope, wrong one.
You're right, John.
My bad.
I mean, not to not honor, you know, a previous stream.
I messed up.
O.P. Blake, with the 10.
Run, Barry.
Run to the Super chats.
The death of Barry's mom seemed targeted,
and it seemed like they had planned on killing her already.
It was a government conspiracy to create the flash.
So I don't get why his dad staying home actually changed whether or not she died.
Maybe not that same day, but I feel like she would have died regardless.
There's a deleted scene confirmed where Ron Livingston beats the shit out of reverse flash.
And why would he, what would be the motive in killing his wife?
So reverse flash in the comics is talking about the dad.
Why was the dad convicted?
I don't feel like they did enough justification for why the dad was convicted.
I mean, like he was the only one on the scene.
No, man.
It's always the husband.
And no one else lives in their neighborhood?
Any motive?
CSI, man.
It's always the husband.
That's why.
Ice tea comes in.
He's like, sucker.
That's it.
He went to, he was mad because he had to go get a can of tomatoes.
I hate her.
And he showed back up and just stabbed her with a can.
Al Dante!
Yeah.
But yeah, no, I mean, we know the reverse flash.
He wanted to create flash.
And that's why with Barry's dad there, it wouldn't have worked because I think, I've always seen it as the mom dying is doubly bad because then the dad's sitting in prison makes it a longer pain.
Like if the dad dies too, they're gone.
Whereas, like, dad's in jail and then mom's dead, that's a perpetual.
So I think what the mom has to be alone.
They must have cut out a thing about him discovering that it was like a reverse flower or didn't know it was reverse fly.
The way the show did it too.
You know, like, what is that little fuzzy yellow thing?
So they must have, they must have cut that out because it made, it just really raises a question of like, this guy would have checked.
He would have checked to see who killed his mom.
He has the ability to just speed by.
go, hey, that person.
Right there.
That person.
Yeah.
The mailman?
Let's see here.
Sammy Boy.
Sammy Boy's got, let's see where we're at.
Sammy's got, if you were going to read through them really quick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
Here we go.
Coy, do your speed reading.
Love how we get a soft origin story of Flash.
We see how Barry would have probably acted using his powers for the first time.
Also love the BVS and Flash have a grand perspective of the fight of Zod and Superman is their version in the Battle of New York.
Okay.
Well done.
I did like seeing
Oh yeah
Okay there's one thing I do like
About the Man of Steel stuff
It is seeing when Barry had his like
Yeah
Shitty suit
Makeshift when he put together
And then
I thought they were gonna bring that around again
With with you know
Saving I didn't know if it would be like
Save the exact same dad or some shit
But I thought they were gonna bring that around
With saving someone
That kid and his dad come back
They just don't get correct
Yeah it's just like
Oh different rubble so they're fine
But I think that was to emphasize
The point of how much
It's going to bother Newberry when he can't save, when he can't save, you know, Batman and Supergirl.
I think that was the purpose of that.
But I still thought it would come around in a different way for Arbery.
I also like the line, like, you just say, one, that's a Superman line.
So I like that Flash learned from Superman, because they have a lot of interactions in the Justice League.
So there's, like, this classic, like, technically in the Justice League movie, it's better.
It's Batman.
Apologies.
I meant Batman.
There it is.
But that's what I thought was a cool.
It's a good line as bad as the movie is.
No.
We cannot give credit to Joss Whedon for any singular thing.
Not even astonishing X-Men.
Also, somebody in the chat said Johnny Depp Batman,
which I don't want, but would be fascinating.
So Sanvoi had two here, right?
Yeah, and then...
Just do a quick Johnny Depp as Batman.
There's no time, John.
Love it with this movie and the crisis event.
Almost every property has been acknowledged and revisited.
I heard people saw multiple endings on screenings before release.
Were there any changes to yours?
No, we saw the final version.
We went to the Collider fan screening,
and that was the first screening of the complete one, right?
Yeah.
So we saw with the ending and with the post-credit scene.
John Watts sitting in the back row.
He had John Watts right behind us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got the Primo.
He saw the other multiverse movie he didn't make him.
I love that No Way Home is like Flashpoint and like John Watts was behind us.
I was like, we're in the multiverse.
He's like, make sure he did it better, did it better?
Shuckier.
John, read a fast speed read.
As a DC fan, I got all.
all the cameos, but I think if you're going to do this,
why not give some love to Arrowverse?
Dark Knight, the Batman, things fresh in people's minds.
Heck, the King of Cameos, Ryan Reynolds is Green Lantern
would have been fun. Great point.
They will acknowledge the Arrowverse in like
20 years. When it's not what people really, really want.
When it's nostalgia, not present.
And not when they're canceling
and ending like all of the Aerovers.
Do you see what Stephen Amel said?
What? They asked him if he'd come back. He's like,
well, I see it right now. They need them more than
they need us more than we need them. And I was like,
Damn, Stephen Mouth, dude.
Came out his arrow himself.
I mean, he's got a, he loves his wrestling.
He's got the wrestling attitude.
He does.
Also, I hear he's a tough guy.
I've heard some stories about.
Dude, he can actually do the salmon ladder.
I've heard some behind the scenes stories about Stephen about.
He's a badass.
He's a tough guy.
I know his cousin Robbie, I'm like, Steven's hardball.
We'd not want to get on his bad side to say.
Yeah, that's sandaladders no joke.
Votion in the chat, Suskeed, Olrich is DCU Batman.
All right, here we go.
Also not bad.
Oh, and then Shockier also said,
Where is it?
Shakir also said.
Coy and John, have you seen RRR?
If you did, what are your quick thoughts?
If not, you should.
It was a mind-blowing experience.
Back to Flash.
I found the C-CPD cast a bit over the top.
Goes to the same friend group later as if they came from another film.
Yeah, they were whatever.
It was a fun scene, but, you know, kind of fun.
I have seen RRR.
I liked it, but I did not have the revelatory experience.
A lot of people shared with me that it was going to change my life.
I did like it.
I reviewed it on my show.
a coi cast, like my podcast, and
I personally found it to be a very
good movie. I think a lot like Flash,
I was told, like, Christ would come back and hand me a
trisket, and he didn't, so I was like, what the hell?
But, you know,
um, whoa, wait, what were we just talking
about? R, R, R, R.R.R.
The Flash. Michael Keaton.
Oh, I love the line of
Topcombe with the gay guys.
Oh, so good.
The gay guys playing volleyball. They just
accept that it's canon. Well, because, like,
arguably, if you had Kevin Bacon in it, it
might have been more open about its gayness because I think Tom Cruise didn't want it to be as gay because they toned down the gayness in the sequel.
So I feel like if it was Kevin Bacon, it might be gayer, which is impressive because Topkin's pretty gay.
Kevin Bacon.
Love them.
Did I miss?
There's someone here.
Okay, right here.
Sharma, making sure I got it.
Yeah.
The twist at the end was consistent because it would have been a big plot hole otherwise.
Yes.
The fact that they still change something with the camera.
Yes.
was understandable why, but he showed to learn nothing.
So the fact that there were changes at the end was satisfying.
Sure.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
No, but the main thing was he still needed his mom to die.
But he's not changing the events that came before his present time.
He is.
Yes, he is.
He's changing where the cans are and thus changing where his dad pointed his head.
But that doesn't affect anything until the present because that doesn't, the technology isn't established until like, say it's 2023.
Of course that's going to change something.
Once you get to that point.
Yeah, but not until then, is what I'm saying.
What thing would it change?
Well, that's why you have George...
But Batman says anything you change is retrocausal, so it can change things in the past and the future.
So I'm like, if you change anything...
Well, that's why there's the consequence of George Clooney.
Yeah, I'm just saying it...
I'm kind of confuses to why Barry did that because he just learned why you shouldn't do that
and how much you can affect the past as well as the future.
It's because the main thing he wanted was just to get his dad out of prison.
I get why he did it.
I think it does negate the lesson being learned.
I think he learned the wrong lesson.
Because he chooses to do it.
It's not like it's an accident or something.
There's two very drastically different emotional associations with the lessons, though.
One is your mom fucking dies.
The other is, after my dad has been serving, like, decades in prison, he can finally get out of prison.
I know, but you're still changing the past.
He has to, yeah, but it doesn't have the same consequences or ripple.
like they're much less.
But I feel like the lesson learned
is you should assume there will be consequences.
You shouldn't be surprised when George Clooney shows up then.
I think he thought the consequence would only occur
if you interact with someone because he kept repeating
like no interactivity, no interactivity, he kept repeating
like the person.
So I think the lesson wasn't learned in the right direction
that he shouldn't have done anything.
But in doing that small thing, now if there's a sequel,
it would be establishing like, you know,
not even that something small.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I feel like that's where he started in the first place,
was I'm just going to put the can in the cart.
That's something small.
I don't have to talk to anybody.
And I'm sure he does.
Sure.
But it's still just as small of a thing.
He's still learned that he has to let go and accept what happened to his mom,
which is something he has been able to do this whole time.
True.
I just think that he doesn't also accept what happens to his dad.
And there's no, yeah, no lives or lost or a game.
And a smaller risk.
Yeah, I think it's a smaller risk of a thing because there's,
literally yeah and and because of the the footage not being available until a certain amount of time it doesn't change 20 years worth of stuff it changes the present which is a smaller technology had to fix that so to me it's just yeah I don't know the retro causal thing is it seems like a big risk to me just because it seems like you could mess up the past as well as get your desired future effect yeah because they do explain that clear I get it it's more precise I understand that the reasoning is better but I'm also like there the way it's can communicate I'm like well you're
You just can't change anything.
Patrick's with you too.
Without completely changing the timeline.
I think it's about split.
That's all I want.
There you go.
That's all I want.
I got a couple of people.
It's all like,
I don't even believe this point.
I just wanted people to agree with it.
It's good to feel agreed with.
But good.
I'm glad that works better for you guys.
All right.
Happy.
That's good.
No, we got this, guys.
You're so money, baby.
Ryan Philippi is Guns Batman.
Interesting call.
Aubrey Plaza's Catwoman is.
It's a great idea.
I love her so much.
Just any time.
So detached.
Any movies she can be in, I am there.
Brad Pitt, Superman.
It's the deadest pan cat woman.
Yeah, our current choices change our past of that multiverse.
Like, the current choice, it's retro causal.
That's why Bruce was older.
It's not the butterfly effect.
It is, it impacts in all directions because it's a multiverse.
Yeah, and he even says, like, more than just the past.
Yeah, just multiple directions.
We look, we can't gang up on Johnny Kitsynson.
I'm great.
John's agreeing with us.
I'm good.
For now.
And people, I got the chat on my side for a lot.
I can levy them against you.
Attack chat.
To my bidding.
Jonah Hill is Superman.
That's a Ted 2 joke.
That is a good Ted 2 joke.
Ted 2.
All right.
Let me adjust this.
Let me adjust this.
One second.
One second.
I like that he lived across the street from Grayson's.
That was nice.
Yeah, I like that too.
Snacks and cinema.
A whole CGI budget went into that Nick.
cage fight.
It was a cool fight.
At least they had him
have a cool fight.
That's what made him
more rewarding instead of
just have them turn
and look.
I did like that
Nick Cage fight.
I didn't,
I completely forgot about
the spider.
It had to be explained
to me all over again.
I was like,
oh, I didn't know.
I was like,
that's all you like going
ha ha ha ha.
They didn't even show
Nick Cage yet
and I was already losing
my mind.
I don't know what that means.
Why he's probably so
excited about a spider.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When I saw his hair,
I was like,
they're not going to are
they oh my God,
they did it.
I was overjoyed in that moment.
Do we get the Bucky one or no?
The what?
The Bucky Super?
No, no, thank you, John.
Oh, we got a few.
Derek, we didn't get either.
Did we get Dick Cajell was godly?
Oh, okay, because I didn't.
Oh, no, no, we didn't.
You're right.
Okay.
Fuck.
Now here we are.
Sorry, everyone.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Yeah, it was after Corrie.
He was making sure.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
All right.
Derek Washington says,
Nick Cage looked godly.
I did like the way he looked, too.
I just wish they should may look real.
He gave him the teeth.
Yeah, the Harry Chess is great.
Go down again?
Do we skip to get to these other Cori-Ms?
That's all I want to know.
Is like, did we do Joe here?
Yeah, because he said the solid nine
and we cast Jensen Aples.
Daddy Clooney.
All right, cool.
Good call.
He did look godly.
And I get that they needed the consistency.
I want to see his real face.
But that was,
that was for me one of those moments
where like this fan service is working.
I don't care if it's CGI.
I'm just glad we got to see a glimpse of it
because that's something I actually didn't think
they would ever do.
They should have just put him there
de-aged. Because Nicholas Cage still looks
Botox ready. He's still
smooth, man. He's still giving that wig and he'll be fine.
All right. Bucky Barnes. Yes. I hope we get
reverse Flash versus the Flash in the sequel. Then we find it was him that
killed Barry's mom, then Christ on Infinite Earth after that.
Two just massive, massive Flash movies
in a row. And then after that, we go to
just regular Flash adventures for the rest of the franchise. Just day-to-day
villain of the weeks. Wasn't the original ending supposed to hint at
at the looming crisis?
Yeah, the original ending before the reset was a crisis movie,
I think would have been the third kind of like you're implying.
The sequel is going to be a reverse flash,
but everything was leading to crisis,
and then there was a real crisis.
Pomata wanted to do crisis.
But, yeah, no, the original ending had Michael,
I remember seeing the first thing I ever saw, Michael Keen were the leaks of the photos.
Yeah.
Yeah, which I was like,
so I thought it was Michael Keating caught me out of the car in that moment.
And, and then when I was catering screenshots for the review,
they could, on the final trailer,
they put in the deleted scene where there's Kara in that same crowd.
I'm like, oh, these are just the people.
Those are the same, like, group crowd people when they get out in Batman,
when, like, George Clooney's scene.
Kara's in the crowd?
I mean, yeah, you can see the people behind her.
Oh, wow.
And then I heard that that was supposed to be,
the car was supposed to be there, too.
It's like, oh, yeah, it's totally not in the movie.
But it's just funny
They still kept it in the trailer though
That's a good shot of her
So it makes sense
But yeah
Yep
I guess
I guess
Is they're like
Well if we can't put
Michael Keaton
Let's just make it funny
Let's do it funny
Well that's an interesting question
Actually in the chat
We can get to it a little later
Robocop
Did you guys notice
The Plymouth overhead Gotham
When Barry arrived to the bridge
Gotham overall looks amazing
as well set in Glasgow
They're always going to Glasgow for gossip
Cheaper to film there man
Cheaper to film
And older architecture probably too
Carl Urban would be a great Batman
But no I did not notice this blimp did you guys
I did not notice a blimp but it's very Batman of them
Thank you for a blimp on my third viewing
Also now I really love dread
Batman because the scowl is same
Carl Urban would be great
Yeah he'll just have his whole mouth
Grimmis grimace grimace grimace
I thought the Aquaman post credit scene
was a big waste of time
I thought they could have delete
they should have deleted it
is so
that was anything for the movie
I thought they were gonna make him
lobo at that moment
or something
right to give it a purpose
yeah
to have him be just super drunk
for a better reason
but like
I don't know
Mustafa Jav
I like
I live here though
I did like that was
yeah that was a good line
amongst the chaos
yeah
for Jack Reacher
to
Jack Runner, Jack Swimmer, Jack Fucker, Jack Slayer, Jack the Riper, Jack Kisser, Jack Shooter, Jack Ritcher.
Basically, on our Reacher reactions, we were always trying to find, like, puns based on Jen Reacher's name.
Got it. Jack Ritcheron's really funny, then. I like that.
Wordplay. Wordplay.
A little Jack, I can't wait Jack reached around when I was reviewing the Tom Cruise once.
Oh, excuse me, it's pretty funny.
Thanks, Mustafa, I'll keep that in mind for season two.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. I'm excited.
I've not.
Good show.
So good.
I love that guy.
Yeah, that guy's great.
He's so big.
He's huge.
He was a fast X in the premiere and made everyone look so tiny and those not a small cast.
Well, Gracian, I think that's what James Gunn's doing.
He's wanting to slow shit down instead of wanting to hop to the big ones.
Hold on.
Run.
Marco Tuncest it.
Oh, my boy.
Cut myself off.
Cut myself off.
How could you?
Run.
Barry.
Run to the super chats.
That's the first time someone says run, Barry, run in the show.
I really enjoyed the movie
But I feel like Batfleck didn't serve much purpose with big chase scene
No, I was just fun fan service
Yeah
It was just a day, like starting out with a normal day in Gotham
I'll use this opportunity to say that I thought the food thing would come back around
Because I really like the
Awkward steaks of the fact that Barry needs to eat
Don't know why I didn't pick up the candy bar in the beginning
Doesn't make sense
Yeah, you're the fastest guy
I don't know what he lost by it
Just pick up the candy bar
It could have just gone up a blip
And still been a funny joke
Like it still would have worked
As a regular human
I would have had the time
Still pick up the candy bar
I don't need like
The super fast powers to do it
But I do like that
That seems like such a big thing for him
Then in the finale of the movie
Like
Oh I guess it doesn't need to eat
Neither of them need to eat
Because they've been doing it for days
The guys like I've been doing this so long
I'm like yeah
I thought that would come around
But I did like
The Batfleck action
I don't, I feel like it's not entirely necessary, sure, but it is fun.
It's good to establish just how brings back in the world.
Because it seems like they're putting this thing where Flash is not respected.
He's not really liked.
He saves his people and people are, and no one even thinks.
He even has that part.
He's like, yeah, thanks, Flash.
So I thought they were going to have some rap around where, like, Flash becomes the hero or some shit.
Yeah, celebrity.
It gets recognized.
So, yeah, there are things that they, like, set up that don't ultimately get paid off.
Who knows?
That's what Part 2's are for.
Uh, so yeah, snacks and cinema back at it in the chat.
I was fully expecting Aquaman to pop up when Batman was hanging off the bridge in the opening of fight sequence.
Uh, you pointed out something about these Wonder Woman cameos.
I used this opportunity to, uh, say what you told me the other day about how you feel Wonder Woman cameras are a little strange.
You got, well, yeah.
I think the Wonder Woman cameos are charming, but this and Shazam both had this, like, strange quality where she shows up and she's just like, oh, you guy.
Like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's.
It's so light in a way that didn't quite compliment the scene, and she's, like, so spotlet.
She just feels like she's kind of completely elsewhere, and I don't, I don't know, to be,
like, the one major cameo that you get in the film was, like, a little peculiar in that sense,
because it's, like, it's badass when she shows up, but also it is, like, I don't know,
there's something, I probably articulated it better before, but, yeah, there's something just
sort of, like, sillier about her presence that kind of took me out of it for the moment.
I like the lasso of truth jokes.
I think those are fun.
But, yeah, I don't know.
There's something as, like, artificial almost feeling,
even though she is, like, the one real cameo when she shows up.
Yeah.
It's a, yeah, it's an odd beat.
Someone just wrote in the chat.
I just want to, if this is true, it was reported an hour ago that Gunn is currently
screen testing, Nicholas Holt, David Corn Sweat, Tim Brittany,
and everyone in wardrobe.
I know they're screen testing, but I had not heard the,
I think it's down to three for Lois and Superman, but I hadn't heard the wardrobe.
That's exciting.
Yeah, we'll just wait.
We'll just wait.
All these, like, people are, like, dying for news right now.
That could happen while we have our panel on Saturday of Comic.
That'd be awesome.
I do think Wonder Woman deserve better cameos.
I think she did.
It was more of service in the Shazam one.
Yeah, that was way more purpose.
Even though I didn't like that movie.
It makes more sense.
I thought she was better there.
It made more sense, even though she was, like, CGI'd or some bullshit.
I prefer her there.
I just wanted to be more part of the scene, because she's just kind of standing there
grinning.
Yeah.
Look at me being here.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just like it's cute in a weird way to me.
It's like saccharine sweet.
Yeah, yeah.
Bucky Barnes, Atlanta.
Thank you, Bucky.
Hey, guys, if we're still here, can you leave the like?
Oh yeah, I wonder if we can fly and ride the lightning.
She could have got there earlier.
Someone pointed out on the chat.
When Iris was talking to Barry at night, the building she was standing in front of was called Grayson's.
Anyone else see that?
John certainly did.
He pointed it out earlier.
You got a super chat earlier.
Yeah.
You want to make sure John doesn't talk about something ahead of time.
Doeyes.
We got a cat here.
It's a smiling cat.
Hells, yeah.
That's awesome.
Coy Flex.
Is that the cat emoji?
Yeah, spider coy.
All I do is a splash chemical on you and they get hit by lightning just to get powers.
Apparently, it's all it takes.
It could have explained something with, like, Barry's DNA to, that way.
Because apparently, like, could anyone do this?
Yeah, anyone in that lab.
You could have brought 10 people and got 10 flashed.
She just gets the chemicals again.
That's all it takes.
It's electrocuted again.
So much of it really patent that.
It's really important.
It's funny.
It's funny stuff.
Save by comedy is what we call Hollywood these days.
Alonzo Pai.
Alonzo P.
Oh my God.
Hey.
Run.
To the Super Chats.
I was hoping to get a Zach Snyder's Justice League Speed Force type scene.
Not in a movie that has to jam pack all this.
Still my favorite sequence.
Still enjoy the movie.
that what did you do delivery from Supergirl?
She plays an intense Supergirl really well.
This is the most comic accurate Supergirl I've ever seen.
I love that.
Like Supergirls, you know, 100%.
I will find her.
So Supergirl in the comics is like raised on an asteroid alone isolated.
And then she's not, it's all a commentary on Nature versus.
You want to hear?
Yeah, I do want to hear.
Nature versus Nature versus Nature, like, without Ma and Pa Kent, what does a Kryptonian become?
So I love the idea that even without that,
the Kryptonians are so full of hope that they're able to
actually be beyond the nature
versus nurture. So Kara represents what it's
like to not have that Clark Kent, Kansas
upbringing. So the fact that Cara is
intense, you're able to still convey
the fact that you can have
someone be full of hope, which is the actual
metaphor of what that S represents. So the
joke is this S doesn't stand for Super
it stands for Hope. It actually works if you have the
dichotomy and the duality of
Superman versus Supergirl. And I think
that Cara here plays her better than like
what they have to do with Benoist
or what they had to do with Helen Slater
and I think she actually gets the character more fully.
I beat you to it.
You got a couple of your coy bingo
I did.
I was seeing what I was trying to beat you there.
Sorry, I'm not spelling your name right.
I don't know who.
It was the Oscars fan favorite movie.
Janine is correct.
15 minutes.
What did I yell about?
Various our feet thrown out the window.
That's right, guys.
You heard it here on my 15 minute rant.
Spidey Sensei 72.
Thank you.
Thoughts on deleted scene about Batman quitting.
What?
Which Batman quit in which time?
Which Batman quit?
And how does he do it?
Is he just like, listen, I'm going to get a real job.
Now we have 30 seconds to wait to hear the Batman quit because I have no idea.
That was the beat.
Yeah, if somebody knows, you know, enlighten us.
I think it would have been funny if Ben Affleck got in his car and then just drove it straight into a wall.
I'm quitting.
Burn down the manner.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, Patrick Starr, the S is for Superman.
Christopher Reeve said so.
They should do a multiverse movie where they all do get together.
They're like, what is your S stand for?
What is your S stand for?
Spaghetti.
Yeah, that would be a great call back.
Flash's S is spaghetti.
Spaghetti Flash.
And then there's Slash from, you know, the band and his stance for Slash.
I think that it isn't that continuity, Superman, but, like, Christopher Eve, is not the comic book.
It's just different content.
Keaton shows up at the fight with the Kryptonians and says, yeah, I give up.
That's not true.
That's not true.
It's a joke, John.
All right.
Aisha, Kenya.
Thank you, Aisha, for being here.
You said in the chat, you hadn't seen the movie.
I know.
Brandon Reltz acknowledged on the TV show.
He's blokes the Aeroverse now.
No question.
Just want to let you handsome fellows know.
Y'all are awesome.
I've been loving the content.
Keep with the great work, guys.
Oh, it's so nice.
you just say, especially when it's a lady who says it.
Especially guys who are just saying it to me,
and then all the women say it to John,
and then Coy gets real private DMs, you know what I'm saying?
They're the hidden one.
You've got to unblur that image.
You've got to see what's going on in there.
Ride the can.
A lot of egg plants and mosey cans.
And yeah,
it was a bummer that they didn't do Val or Brandon Ralph, I guess, too.
I mean, Grant Guston, I think, would have been the biggest moment, but I do, I acknowledge they did it on the show.
It just would have been nice to see Grant here.
Whatever.
He hates the flash now.
That's why he quit.
Don't want this.
Our CEO.
Think about it.
Everyone, think about it.
The conclusion to Keaton's Batman is him.
Uh-huh.
Supergirl failing to save Earth.
I don't know.
Hello.
I'm getting Terminator Dark Fate, John Connor vibes.
Why?
It's not like Keaton just showed up and they killed him.
it's not like they put the ending in the trailer yeah and it's not like it's like a weird i don't know
not retcon but it does kind of affect the the previous canon whereas this is just yeah this is an event
that wasn't supposed to happen so you guys are both going to fail at this and this universe is going to fold up
you still get a substantial amount of time with them so i don't feel the same i mean they're saying
that he's still saved right now but it's a different one because it's george clinton exactly multiverse
god damn the multiverse it's confusing it's confusing
the DCU is going to be so confusing.
And James Gunn was like,
this is the greatest superhero movie ever.
I'm based in my whole DC universe
off of how great this is.
Alex Segalo, what is it, Coy?
Do you ever, is quick or is it quick?
No, it's very quick.
I will say that the only might be good thing
about Flash not doing as well is that
Muscietti's already getting rewarded with Batman.
And if this doesn't do well, they're more likely
to just clean slate the DC.
If this had done well, they might have, like,
I think it's going to be less messy because of this weekend.
Yeah, good thing it's failing.
That's what we all wanted to hear.
Alex.
Moody he still gets Batman.
Did you like Batflex voice used in the Flash?
His speaking voice, when he is just talking with Barry, I thought was great.
I really like, I don't feel like this gets pointed out enough.
We were kind of touching on it earlier.
This movie does do a good job at distinguishing between Ben Affleck and Michael Keaton's Batman interpretations.
Because Michael Keedin's just like so chill.
So chill.
He's like a stoner bat.
He's the dude.
I kept thinking the dude
He does look like
In the opening scene
I'm like that guy's got rugs
That tie the room together
He's such a chill
Laid back guy
The Joker came in and pissed on his rug
Like
He's lost a lot of that darkness
For sure
But you can feel that
The past darkness it
He did it but now is just like
Hey man this is his life now
Now when he wants to get nuts
He's got a bowl of macadamia
I really
I think that
Is Batman
ultimately necessary in here
I think there's ways that could have tweaked
the writing to make him feel more essential
the way how Flashpoint comic
and the DC animated makes
Batman feel very essential in that story
there's ways they could have tweaked it to
alleviate any
question beyond reasonable doubt that Batman
was necessary to be in this movie
but I think Michael Keaton's
performance is
it's so charismatic and it's so enjoyable
that I'm like yeah
I prefer him in it because he's
He's just so much fun.
He's both times watching it.
I'm like,
he didn't really help save whatever the righty.
Because even when he chooses to be Batman,
I go, what's the,
there's not a moment to be like,
oh, that's the strong why and motive.
That makes him go,
I'm going to don the cape after so many years, you know?
It's just,
it just kind of happens really.
He just seems like he's got nothing else to do.
They brush past it.
Like there's a little bit of a punch with the whole Alfred
reminding and he's been watching him
but again that comes back to the thing I was saying earlier
that there's a lot of things that I feel are rushed
through so he just
becomes Batman it doesn't feel it's like rewarding
or as cathartic as it ought to be
but then at the end when he dies I do that moment
it was a bummer yeah no no but the moment he says like you brought
me back that that was the moment we didn't get
earlier yeah so I still felt served
did we notice the laughing back you mean when the camera
decides to focus on it and
the only thing you hear yeah we noticed the laughing
did you notice this heavily featured
nothing
Keaton is definitely uncle back
Did you guys say the Flash's in this movie?
No, thanks to Peter Chase it.
Hey, be nice.
Everyone be nice, even though I started making the joke.
You did this.
Did you guys see the old Batmobile?
Whoa, I liked the laughing bag.
Me too.
Hold on.
Raccoon for a 20.
We want to get nothing.
Let's get nothing.
With Super Chats.
I find it interesting.
It's funny every time.
It's Spider-Berson Flash.
Have exact, the problems I come up with these at such a last minute.
I thought it was a week in advance.
I didn't come up with them like at least the night before.
I find it interesting that Spider-Verse and Flash have exact opposite views and the same sort of idea of canon events.
And they both came out so close to each other.
Now, if only we can get them to cross over.
I think this is a very beautiful thing because I think Spider-Man represents with great power.
There must also come great responsibility, which is misquoted in the same Ramey movies,
which is part of why I don't like them as much as other people do.
there's an action required it's not with great power comes great responsibility it's with great
power there must also come it's an action it's a verb it's a doing and i go done done done to do
your point quick i i was i was but in marvel there's our underdog characters that have to
overcome something in order to succeed in dc these are gods that live amongst us those are very
different views on what heroism is so i like that in the spider-man lore which is more traditionally
like i lose everything this is what my life is i have to do this miles is going to
outside of that and going like, I'm going to change
things, which is very unlike that character
of Spider-Man, the archetypal Spider-Man.
Flash is going against the archetype of DC,
which is, yeah, these things are happening.
I'm an all-powerful being. I have
to fix it. I have to fix it. This will change.
So Flash has to let go
and Miles has to not let go.
So I love that the Canada events are
opposing, and they're also juxtaposing
the expectations of the universe themselves. I think this is
very intentional and I really like that they're
so close together. For sure.
Yeah, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Oh, Smokey DeBear
Run, Barry
Run to the Super Chats
Did anyone else say what the fuck
When they say George Clooney?
Yeah, the Flash did
Yeah
Look is this
I did
When we first saw the movie
We talked plenty about this
Cabio
We first saw the movie
I think I leaned over to you
About like an hour and I'd be like
I guess his tooth is just gonna stay
I know I was like
So when they brought it back at the very end
And I was like all right well done
A very long game for that joke
Yeah because at first when it goes into his mouth
I'm like this is the weirdest little bit
And then yeah and then it has a little three
It has three beats it's good
I'll allow it
Because I didn't forget about that tooth
I was the most skeptical
about like every 15 minutes like without work do people do that what a strange like would you
have to dry your gum severe yeah yeah what's the science here i know people like super glue
superficial but usually it's like half a truth his truth was that anyway yeah of warden the major
villain i believe that he became is not dark flash but the movie version of savotar i i thought
savotta it's okay a lot of people thought it might have been zoom when he first is introduced
but I was like we don't have time for Zoom
it's got to be
it's got to be another version
of Barry that is paying for the consequences
like right away
and what what does help
like clue me into that
is the fact that I did see the whole
Savatar season of I haven't read
any Savvatore comics like this guy
I've only
I only saw the whole season dedicated to it
so which was a season that was like kind of
up and down but there were some really great moments
that's when they do like Toby
the McGuire Dark Flash.
Oh, do I see.
I haven't seen the show that much.
It's kind of goofy.
But I like Sabatark.
Does he dance?
He's got the emo thing going.
But I do like, but yeah,
it was, it was, it was, it was fine.
I thought it was fine.
I like what it represents in the movie and
I don't think of the handling
of it, there are some structural things
that I do wish were, yeah, it was very predictable.
But I do wish there were some structural things
that were a little bit more fleshed out because
I did forget about it entirely.
until like close to the finale when the movie's like
Hey don't forget
When he's waking up after being electrician
When Supergirl takes him up
And he's just like a quick flash of that guy
And you're like, don't forget that guy
He's gonna come back over
Don't forget about this is important
I did like the concept of that
That whole when Youngberry first phases
With the big piece of shrapnel
And then it becomes like a weapon
Like it's a cool like horrific idea for that character
And I did think the phasing was really cool too
I actually like when they break it down to him
molecular level when they go through the door when they're first going into the central city police stations.
And that humor worked for me. That beer is such a funny joke to me. That beer joke, I laughed. I embarrassed myself. I laughed so hard. When he first runs, when he doesn't have his powers. Oh, my God, that little police scene. It's making fun of the way he runs.
The choice of his acting. Yeah. To capture it in a way where he's not. You just see how silly it does look. And like the fact that they were willing to make fun.
And that right on screen, I thought was great.
I laughed a lot more next time.
That was really funny.
And it's great because when he's in the actual speed force, you see it and you go, okay, I guess with how fast the wind must be, I get that it must be aerodynamics.
And then, yeah, you see it normal.
I do like the stance that he gets when he is to pose, too.
Like, I think even Zach Saunders Justice League has the whole, like, preparation.
He's kind of doing like Tai Chi.
Oh, yeah.
Which I think really helps establish that, too.
Sideep.
Shiti, thank you.
The opening scene of Batman chasing has guys reminded.
reminded me of JLA.
Batfleck is a MF tank.
Dude got thrown into cars and walls.
I didn't flinch.
It's the suit. All saved by the suit.
Also, Affleck's a beast.
So if anyone, if any of the Batmans, I do buy Affleck just being able to hang.
That guy is a huge.
He is really tall.
Like, I was joking before, we, he was getting out of his little, like, limo to walk in.
And it...
The second we were walking in, his limo arrived.
And it was, like, right where we were.
So we were like three feet from what appeared in our minds as Bruce Wayne.
I didn't see Ben Affleck.
I saw at a premiere Bruce Wayne appear, and it felt like the scene in which one was it, B.S.
He had J-Lo next to him.
I don't even think I saw J-Lo.
I don't think I even looked at her.
One of the most beautiful people in the world.
We literally got stuck behind.
That's how you can tell you're in a nerd premiere.
I don't even think I saw.
One of the most beautiful people I've ever seen, I only know because of photos.
Olivia asked me, like, what did J-Lo look like a person?
I don't think I looked at her.
We got stuck behind them.
We were like within three feet of them.
I was like,
oh, J-Lo was there.
And then I did get to thank Ben Affleck for all of his service to Boston, which was nice.
That was a good moment for a moment.
But for a moment, it was Bruce Wayne.
I had a very real moment where because Ben Affle was about to walk past us.
And I was like, Coy, do I get up my camera?
He's like, yeah, get your camera out.
So I got out my camera.
I started recording about 10 seconds in your recording.
He did a quick glance at me.
And I panicked because I saw.
I saw every online video I've ever seen of Ben Affleck upset at people recording him.
And even though this is a premiere, totally different situation than like getting coffee, getting donuts, like a completely different thing.
He's expected to be recorded by everyone.
But the fact that he looked right at my camera for a split second, I was like, oh my God, I was going to yell at me.
My favorite thing was I didn't understand the context of you taking out your phone.
So, like, I was like, yeah, we're going to go in.
but then when I saw what you were referring to
I was like he might thump you
like he's just so big
and then like when I thanked him I saw
a bunch of people taking photos with him and I was like I just want
to thank him for what he's done for Boston
but in that 30 second interaction I was like
I've never been more afraid to say hi to anyone in my life
and then like he shakes your hand and
smiles and you're like is this a trick
like he's just so intimidating
he's such a Frank Miller Batman and he's
so kind but man is that guy intimidated
yeah you don't want he has bad side
I've seen him on that one show
Ha ha ha ha
Chef Z
Chef Z
Coy
What was this
Zippin
Do a ranking of your most hated
Huh
Oh yeah
Canadian money
Is worth more than American
He's earned it
Yeah
Oh
Holy
That super chat's huge
Nice
Do you guys know
What that moment's from
No
When he sees the Batmobile
Oh, yeah.
That's not my voice.
That's Ezra's voice.
It blends beautifully.
Coy, do a ranking of your most hated MCU movies, please.
No one's more likely to do a negative video than Coy.
I can appreciate all MC movies for their place, but some do better than others.
Crap.
Shit talk only.
It's not very Canadian of you.
I think it would be a great video.
We did a negative video.
He did one.
And that's all I, that's like, oh my God, what have I done?
He started twitching.
it did take four times as long to film uh i have things like for me i can't make art that is to this scale so why would i shit talk it two there are a million negative reviewers to every one positive one so there's plenty of shit you can find three uh yeah i could be twice to five times as successful tomorrow if i start doing negative stuff but i quit talking bitching about your lack of success take your twitter energy and put it on youtube start becoming yeah the only thing i hate is hate is
hate so I will come at you troll motherfuckers
but I will not come at art because art
existing is a miracle so
the worst DC movies
the worst Marvel movies I think
that Captain Marvel looked cheap and
it was underserving to both Brie Larson and
the directors I think that movie did not
do justice to what Brie can bring and I think
the Marvel is going to be a lot better for it
This is good for what we have in store
I think the Marvel is going to be a great way to show what
Captain Marvel can be but the movie didn't serve her
I do think Thor Dark World meandered
when it had a purpose but there was a studio
interference level because it was the first sequel that really
didn't know where to land things.
I think what other ones are on the bottom
of the totem pole. I think
Hawkeye didn't do kingpin justice, but the overall show
is good. Wanda Vision's sixth episode is not as good
as one through five, but like these are all nitpicks.
Overall, art is a miracle to exist
and I don't think negativity has a purpose
in this case, in this setting.
It does. Those were negatives.
I did it. When it...
Look at it go. We're not going to give views off of that.
That's...
That's one they asked. And also, that was a very
like, light negative.
to get your red-eye, white-eye thumbnail
and scream about virtue signal.
Oh, right, right, right.
I know DC movies don't really flow
and connect like Marvel's do,
but what do you guys think the next movie
your main focus should be about in the DCEU?
Crisis on Infinite Earths right away.
Right away.
I think you should just start off for Christ.
I think that's what Creature Commandos should be about.
Crisis film.
It's Crisis on Infinite Earths.
That would be the most important part of the DCEU.
You've got to establish it right away.
I think opening scene of,
I think the final scene of the first episode,
you should see Apocalypse showing up.
Yes.
That would be cool.
Not apocalypse.
Dark side.
I got you.
Dark side.
Yeah.
Dark side.
X-Men.
Cross over.
X-Men.
Coming.
Yeah.
Marble DC.
It's finally happened.
Yeah.
Have him shown it.
That'd be awesome.
Ready the Armada.
They should even say ready the armada just to piss off everyone who loved.
They should call things,
what ifs instead of elseworlds.
I think we're going to get a very cohesive DCU because it is going to be not all connected.
I think the things that connect are going to work.
I think it's also going to be much more plotted.
The next 10 years are going to be like orchestrated versus like this than this.
And then it's not going to be as reactionary, I don't think.
We'll see.
You don't know James Gunn like I do.
Lack of confidence.
That guy doesn't know his comics.
Nope.
Of course Greg would like this movie.
I feel like I've been the most negative.
Yeah, Greg.
Would you just stop shilling?
Honestly, for like...
John hates the ending, though.
I liked it.
I'm just saying it is a little bit of an odd choice.
I think it's a little...
John Pleaf.
Barry, run to the Super Chats.
Yes, Alan Ling.
John, read it.
Alan Ling, I saw both Flash and Elemental this weekend.
I had a better time watching Elemental over Flash.
I liked Flash, but I didn't love it.
Will you guys save watching Elemental for the Channel?
I've heard it's not that great.
So, based off of the one-endal...
opinion I heard. I'm going to skip
now. One person said
it's
I don't know yet. Maybe
depends if it makes a splash.
I haven't seen Little Mermaid yet.
Nor have I. And like Elemental's on that list
too. I mean, I love Pixar. Pixar's one of my favorite
studios. I feel like they just don't market them well
anymore. Sorry, Jen, some reacting to Little Mermaid here with my wife.
Oh. We should do two. We should do
a Coy and John and a marriage one.
Watch these two dudes. I don't want to hear your race
slanders the whole time. I do hate
fish. Yeah. Not my flounder.
Yeah. Not my flounder. What's Sebastian doing?
I was talking about Latino actor, Javier, Bardell.
Oh, that's my real struggle. When I think of, what's his name with the Trident?
That's King Triton.
King Triton. What I think of Crean Titans got to have a white beard, white man.
That's my issue. I just hope that there's a clipping song that Sebastian gets to sing.
He's so happy. If it was like a Will Smith S. Gore where it's like the king of the sea
makes all the songs for, like, Little Mermaid.
I just love how people, you know, like, DeVee Diggs is a very, you know,
gregarious and lovely presence.
And yet when you go check out, like, his band, it's like the harshest, dissonant, dark.
Shit.
Like me on Twitter.
It's great.
It's an outlet.
I love it.
You need an outlet.
Clipping all day.
If you haven't heard clipping, go listen to some clipping.
Highly recommend.
Good shit.
Also the blind spotting soundtrack.
I got to see blind spot.
So good.
Very excited.
Greg's like, why are they still talking?
Yep.
Mr. Spaz's.
World is here.
Small note.
I hated the lighting on Batman.
Just any scene?
Like, I'm supposed to be sad.
This guy is dead,
and all I can concentrate on
is the fact I can see his nostrils.
Who's dead?
Batman.
Yeah, when he's on the ground.
The end scene of Batman.
I was thinking of the whole,
okay, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
I mean,
everyone has nostrils.
I thought Michael Keaton
looked, his Batman,
looked great in the day.
It was Ben Afflex
when he's just standing on the freeway
that I didn't like, I didn't like the way any of that looks.
I think it looks terrible.
I think it's really bad.
But I know you can capture him during the day.
Like, you see it in Zach Snyder's Justice League.
You can capture Batman during the day.
Nolan's Batman was daytime and the Dark Night Rises.
Like, Dark Night Rises almost all daytime.
I'm saying, I'm saying specifically, like Ben Affleck's Batman.
Got it.
I think you can really capture, because they do make a joke, like, what's he do it out during the day?
Yeah.
But, you know, I love how Bad Affleck's.
Afflix, Batman just refuses to
thank Barry
for the miracles he pulls off.
Yeah, I think it's so good.
I'm doing real deed stuff.
My ego wouldn't allow me to accept help.
You just saved a bunch of babies
made a bunch of you over a burning
building.
You have actual superpowers.
Pauvin Meyer.
In fact, I probably should have stuck you.
You could have done both, really.
Yeah.
I mean, seriously.
And maybe with less destruction.
I've got to go save the world on Batman.
Pav and Meyer, did they acknowledge Zach Snyder's Justice League as canon?
Sort of, because Ben mentions him going back in time by one second what he did in Z.
That is their way of acknowledging that Zach Sunder's Justice League is canon.
I remember there was something that they do say that.
Casey Clemens says, we met, I think it was in a dream, and that takes place in Snyder's cut.
Yeah.
That whole sequence is only in Snyder's cut, so that implied that.
Yeah, yeah, there are definite, to me, this is the following in that continuity, for sure.
between the two.
I totally think it's worth watching.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Everyone's opinion's been different.
Yeah, I don't think I've seen a movie
this polarizing in a long time.
It's like, there's no one that likes it.
You either really like it, love it, or really hate it.
There's no one that's like, it's a five.
Like, it's all sevens to tens and twos.
It's kind of like multiversa men.
Yeah.
Bass Creek's child, what up.
Bass Creek's child.
Bat.
Run, Barry.
Run to the Super Chats.
Thoughts of them bringing back George and Christopher Reeves.
I thought it was pretty disgusting and pretty cool to do,
especially with George,
a person whose life was ruined by Superman.
Yeah, we talked about it earlier in the stream.
And I think what Koi said was,
he's dead, his opinion doesn't matter.
So let it be.
That's not what he said.
Does Wormfood even get a vote?
Is what I said.
You guys want a hateful Koi?
You want reverse Koi?
He'll come at you.
Gallows, straight from the gallows.
No, no.
George Reeves is a bit more
conflict.
Koa Expressity, really.
Christopher Reeves.
I honestly think it's a really
dangerous precedent, and I honestly
think George Reeves may or may not have
killed himself because of the impact Superman had in his life,
so to specifically bring him back
as Superman feels like burying him
and unburying him and burying him twice.
It is a very slippery slope we're entering
with using the likeness of the dead,
and a lot of the reason the strike is happening
is because the writers and SAG
don't have anything
in their contract about AI.
Reverse coin.
But right now we're basically,
we're fighting,
the unions are fighting for the right,
for the dead,
because AI could actually have
the likeness of these things
that don't have the contract signed,
allow for this.
And right now a lot of contracts are
your likeness in perpetuity
throughout the universe,
which means like in 100 years on Mars,
they can air you as an unanimated,
reanimated corpse.
So it's a really dangerous precedent.
And this movie using it
in so many different ways
is kind of the first marker
of like this is where it could go.
So I think it is a detriment to society
and I do think it's a dangerous thing
and I do feel for the Reeves.
I also think it's very uncanny valleyish
to use imagery that is only in 2D
in a way that is 3D
and kind of like reanimate a corpse so literally.
So I don't love it.
I didn't personally think it was worth the fan service.
I didn't mind the Nick Cage
because he's with us and said it.
It was okay.
So it's where I'm at in real life.
It's conflicting because yeah,
it's like in some ways it's paying honor
and you know,
Obviously, in some ways, I'm like, I like that they start with George Reeves and honor that because most people think of Christopher Reeve.
Right.
But, and with Christopher Reeve, you're like, okay, well, he played the role so many times he might be okay with that.
But, yeah, it's an odd question.
And two, what I just realized now is that Ben Affleck played George Reeves in a movie.
They should have let Ben Affleck do it.
I like a continuity word Ben Affleck's not Batman. He's Superman.
But Barry's like, what's happening?
And guess who Ben Affleck was banging in that movie, Diane Lane?
His mom.
Martha Kent, people.
Oh, my God, look at this.
Riversify.
Run, Barry.
Run to the super chats.
Moment of silence.
Thank you.
It didn't say anything.
Oh, look at that.
Those are the best.
Those are the best.
Yes, moments of silencio.
That's how you want a live stream.
Let's take the money.
Don't say shit.
Just wait.
Just lurk.
Is that mic been off the whole time?
It doesn't matter.
No, it's true.
I want it to be off so that it doesn't suck battery.
Yeah, more people are coming around to you on the cans, John.
I mean, you know, it just creates a question in that if you...
Who cares? Time travel never makes sense.
Don't think about it too hard. It fries your mind.
What are you saying? You prefer that Ron Livingston stay in prison?
Ron Livingston is my Peter Sarsgarde.
They should have done. They should have moved the cans.
Barry doesn't get to be there in court when it happens.
He goes to the courthouse.
They're like, Barry, your dad's just been presumed innocent because of the footage.
Like, no way, that's awesome.
Billy Cruttup walks out.
Billy Cruttop.
And he's like, who are you?
I wanted to Billy Crud up.
That would have been great.
And then George Clooney shows up.
How awesome would that have been?
And then George Reeves dead body.
Reanimates George Clooney's from the crap.
Oh, goodness gracious.
I heard a very interesting George Reeves' story I won't go into right now.
What a setup.
What a tease.
Hold on, everyone.
Run, Barry.
Run to the Super Chats.
I'm in the same boat with y'all, Jorge and Estra says.
I overlook the negatives.
Yeah, sometimes a movie can be just so enjoyable that you can overlook it.
And then you can shit on some negative.
That's the thing. It's like there's logic and emotion.
And the thing is, the movies are like a feeling experience.
And sometimes the movie can be so logically annoying that it can override your emotional experience.
But to me, it's so much, it's easy to have fun with this one.
I can still have fun and watch Justice League and be like, what a shitty movie.
But it's fun.
I love the mom ending.
Lost my mom and it hit.
I understand, man.
I completely understand.
Rosalia track.
Oh, let's, can we acknowledge?
She's amazing.
What a presence that mom has.
She's so good.
You needed her to be that effective in those scenes.
And I thought efficiently, like really well effective.
You believe her.
Even making a choice when she is like, hey, I don't know you.
I'm just a stranger.
Made the Lord Jesus Christ bless you.
When making the choice to, like, console this stranger in the grocery store,
you believe that she would do.
And that's incredible.
It's a weird thing.
what a weird thing someone no one would do that like you believe she would do it from just the brief times you have with her not enough people are talking about how awesome of a performer she is jeet or i want to see your flash movie uh yes that'd be amazing um rip to schnep yes rest in peace john schnep
Yeah
Clooney got a big reaction in my theater
Oh yeah dude
That was great
That's the greatest one
And then you know
Then they just ended off with a post-credit scene
That's just like
The whole time you're watching it going
Someone's gonna say something to put
Something big's gonna happen
I guess not
That was like some light comedy
It was definitely an odd
Paced post-credit scene
For what it needed to be
I'm wondering if that's the thing
that he shot, Jason Momoa shot when he was all
like celebratory and he was like, yeah, everything's working at him
on the lot. Remember there was that video of him that he was
like, I bet he's Lobo now. I bet they shot that that day.
I don't think that was
sick. I don't know what else it was me. I've been trying to
get into the Flash movie. I'm going to be in this
puddle. You guys ain't ready for this
shit. I've been trying to get more comedy
in these movies.
I mean, he's fucking amazing and fast
X, man. He's so good and fast X.
So good.
Run to the Super Chats.
I think people are hating too much on this movie, Emmanuel Rode Rodriguez says.
I think it was really enjoyable, fun, and heartfelt.
It was a bitter sweet goodbye to the old DCU, and I had a blast with it.
I really do feel like it holds nostalgic.
You can feel the nostalgic love.
It doesn't just feel like, even though I don't like the cameo use, it's strange to me.
Even though I thought the Illuminati was weirdly used in multiverse of madness,
I thought they could have done so much more with them.
I somehow felt more of a touching, you know what I'm trying to say.
There was something that felt more heartfelt.
I think that's mooshed, man.
About even the weird cameos in here that you're like,
the intent behind it feels different.
Yeah.
The intent doesn't feel as ghoul.
is like some of the ethical concerns.
Saying it out loud is way worse in my
head and what it is, because the heart feels
there. I don't think anyone put
George Reeves in there with malintent.
It's just an odd thing because
of the history. If you don't know the history, it's just a cool
moment, but if you do, it's odd. But I do think
that even those moments were from a good
place. I agree. The intent was
clearly there. You guys are just basing your knowledge
off of the movie Hollywoodland. You don't
know anything. Yeah. Well, having
not George Reeves many times. I also watched
the BuzzFeed Unsolved.
Jesse Grado
You want to get nothing
Let's get nothing
With super chats
Brodies
Love the energy in each video
And live stream
Just want to say thank you
For all the laughs
Hardy Heart Horror
I'm watching The Flash Night
In spite all the spoilers
I'm still excited
This is one of those movies
You can watch
No matter how many spoilers you get
As always
You guys rock much love
Well I hope you enjoy it
I appreciate you showing your support
And yeah I mean as much as like
The trailers, I thought the trailers,
as I did watch our old trailer reactions,
I was like, oh yeah, no, this is like,
this pretty much went exactly like how I thought it would go.
And then a couple of the cameos were spoiled.
Yeah.
You know, some things, so yeah, for the most,
I didn't hear anything about like Supergirl dying
and them trying to go back and fix,
I didn't know any of that shit.
Right.
None of that was spoiled for me at the very end.
And a lot of the details weren't spoiled for me.
but I think that it's like plot points that can be spoiled
and I'm still like
nah it doesn't really it didn't affect my
I wasn't like watching it upset being like
yeah I think that if I'd heard
with all definitiveness
like the Spider-Man no way home
you know Toby's dick that really that that leak
affected some things this did not have that same impact
of like oh now it's lesser
yeah
TJM has asked a few times in the live chat
do I want Scorpion or Venom for the next Spider-Man movie
I think Scorpion would be a much better street-level villain.
I want Spider-Man to be street-level for a while.
I think Tom Holland deserves a friendly neighborhood in New York movie.
I think Venom should be a trilogy where the black suit comes in the second movie and, like, you build to things.
So Scorpion would actually be the perfect one because in the comic Scorpion was basically made by Jonah Jameson to hunt Spider-Man.
That's a very contained story.
You want to have bat nipples?
Let's get some bat-nipples.
Thank you, Jason, Nick.
The chat.
Johnny!
Who?
Last movie's seen a real 3D, like 3D or not?
Avatar.
Yeah, both times I've seen it was Avatar.
I prefer 2D personally, but I want to see Spider-Verse in 3D, but I don't know if I will.
3D and Avatar is so good.
It is.
It's gorgeous.
Was Avatar?
Avatar was after multiverse, quantumania, right?
Yes, it was December?
No, quantumania was way after.
Okay, then it would have been quantum.
Like a year after.
No, this is like two months.
I was like, no, it's not true.
Time.
But, yeah, quantumania, then I guess it would have been for me.
Which it got better in 3D.
It looked better in 3D.
Tyler, Fletcher, I understand, thank you for the super chat.
I understand the ending, but also don't.
What the hell?
I know, that's the way a lot of people are feeling about it.
But don't worry, it's not going to matter.
DC resets every other movie.
So don't you fret about it.
Even James Guns is going to keep that going.
There's one thing I want James going to consistently do
is constantly reset D.E.
see you as often as you can.
Every movie resets the time.
Just keep course correct.
The only consistency is inconsistency.
It's a groundhog day universe now.
I did have a feeling general audiences would not care about this movie that much.
Boomstick warrior.
Boomstick!
A beamstick warrior!
Run!
To the super chats!
Yes.
Run!
Run!
Barry run!
Will Batman's director retroactively take this?
cgai excuse from this movie
i.e. Modoc looks like crap
because that's how
at man perceives him.
See, I can understand the
intention of like the speed force to me
honestly feels intentional. Not the
cameos, but the
I don't think it's an excuse. I do think
Muscietti set out for
that look. Like I think
the psycho, what is the
drone? I keep forgetting the name of the chrono do.
Chrono bowl. I do think that was like
how he perceived it.
I think that was a goal.
Yeah.
I get it.
I don't think, though, it immediately conveys to the audience so that this is intentional.
I agree with that.
Which is why so many people are bitching about it.
Right, right, right.
I don't think he's lying.
I just don't think it landed the way he intended.
Like, the first time it shows up, I was like, oh, no.
We talked about it.
Like, very quickly, that was one of our first talks was like, you guys just see that shit?
Well, and there's not a 100% consistency of when, unless,
Unless it only applies to the Crono Bowl,
there's not a 100% consistency of how Barry sees figures in speed force scenarios.
That's why I said the baby thing.
Sometimes people are real and sometimes they're not.
Yeah.
Well, I think when he's seeing like these different,
I don't know, it just weirdly didn't bother me because it bothered me when you're seeing like the,
when you're literally looking at the other universe and these other people,
it's like you're watching a scene.
But when you're watching like the slow motion interpretation.
of reality.
Yeah.
That didn't bother me at all
and I thought it was kind of cool
and psychedelic.
Like, have you ever done
like a heroic dose of mushrooms
the world kind of looks like that.
I could kind of,
yeah,
the second time around
I could kind of see the idea.
Like, yeah,
this is like,
I don't know,
it almost felt like
if they'd made them
part of the sands of time
that Barry's standing
or something that could have helped
like give them just sort of
like a peripheral sandy sheen or something.
All right, guys,
I'm going to refresh these.
I'm going to have to turn
the super chats off.
What?
Yeah.
Never.
But we're going to finish them.
We're going to finish them.
But I just want to, because we don't end the stream without finishing.
Every one.
Every single one.
I just want to, I just got to turn them off.
And I want, I want everyone here to see what YouTube says when you try to turn off the superchurchase.
Oh, you're damn V-900.
You might have got the last Super Chat in there.
Oh, boy.
Look out.
Look out.
There it is.
If you continue, your fans will no longer see Super Chats as a purchase option and you'll no longer
revenue from it.
I understand the implications of this action.
That Barry Allen wouldn't understand.
He moves those cans.
We don't.
We don't move the chaos.
Stick around for the end of the stream.
I'm going to tell you my flash sex joke.
I got a flash.
There's a one flash sex joke sketch I've always wanted to make.
Good.
Stick around to the end of the stream.
If only robot chicken was still making episodes.
You'll like it.
You'll like it.
You'll like the sex joke.
Somebody asked about it.
Please remind me, guys.
At the end.
He made a promise.
To make them.
To tell you my flash sex joke.
Yes.
It's a good one.
Wait, wait, let me just check these.
Don't worry, guys.
I'm going to keep on track.
Even the movie's good.
The CGI is pretty ugly.
Hey, man, it's rare where you can catch a movie where you're like bad CGI, but I still have so much fun.
Yeah.
All right.
We got one stream lab.
I want to just cross off the bucket list here.
We've been waiting my entire life for this one stream lab.
Can't die without it.
guys never leave the cave without it oh my god john yeah bad credit card oh yeah i'm surprised you're
the first person to ask about this yeah i want pierce o three uh he's asking well thank you for
the stream lab what do you think they're going to do with the ezra miller flash now just erase them
and never mention them again or a recast well because ezra did such a good job
I think we should just never talk about anything again
that's been brought up.
My favorite thing that keeps happening,
what I love is that every Ezra Miller video
that we had done in the past,
if we haven't done in a very, very, very, very long time,
but everyone we had done in the past,
John was with me and all those.
And yet, there's this camp of Ezra Miller defenders
who seek me out on social media.
Well, there's an easy answer to that.
All the time.
who are like, when is Greg going to acknowledge the stuff he said and do it?
I'm like, man, why aren't you guys looping John?
Because you tweet consistently.
That's true.
That's true.
Your page is more active.
I don't tweet about, it happens to the comments, too.
I'm like, John's in the videos too.
Because you are the head, you are the face.
I'm just an NPC in this universe.
I got all the play.
Okay.
my thing is like there's these people who have like gathered like here's the insurmountable evidence
that everything you've ever heard on every story is a lie that is like what they do yes and and uh i've
i've gone through it i'm like okay maybe sure yeah um and then but then i'm always brought back to
this one question the same question that comes up why aren't the publicist and agents and managers
publishing any of this if this is all completely accurate.
Like, why did they chose the path of just shut up,
Esther Miller, just shut up.
Don't too much harder to hide you away.
If this is all true, why isn't the public legal team doing any of this stuff
that apparently you people online can find?
Yeah, this would be dream evidence if it was the case.
And the numbers are pretty staggering.
I get tweets that are like 95% of it has been proven false.
And that's a big number.
It's like everyone, right.
Everything.
And especially after watching with the Jonathan Majors thing,
with them being like, we have this dubious evidence and we're just going to put it out there.
You know, you'd think they would take any opportunity with Ezra.
I will say, I am very much team, like, there should be a way to,
prison isn't about living in prison.
It's about, like, fixing things.
And I do think that...
Rehabilitated.
Yeah, I do think we're entering deeper into like there is an unforgiveness pact made by the public.
I think that we all like, I'm not saying cancel culture.
I'm not a comedian that has moved to Austin, Texas.
I am, however, saying that there is an instinct of certain people to be like, this is them going to jail and throw away the key.
I would love to, once we find out actual fact and details, to see any sort of forgiveness and to see if there's rehabilitation.
And I don't know what that looks like.
I'm not in the court system.
I'm not any of these things.
So people getting mad at me
for saying in our video
our reviewing this does not condone
or encourage the actions of one Ezra Miller
was meant to make a levity of a thing
that we just don't know the facts of.
I really, really want Ezra to be great.
I want that.
I would love for a person to be happy every time.
I just don't know what goes into
what actually happened.
And until we do, it's not really fair.
Yeah.
Same with Jonathan Majors.
We don't know what actually happened.
It's not really fair to make judgments at all,
much less profit off them.
Lots of YouTube channels.
So I just, I want Ezra to
be rehabilitated, and I want
Ezra to be happy, and I want
any of these things to have facts before conjecture.
Yeah.
Personally.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of it is...
I mean, if we're talking about it.
I just don't know!
I've only seen one TikTok.
There's so much smoke.
There's a lot of smoke.
There must be some kind of fire.
But I...
Accountability is good.
I think that it is
a goddamn shame if they
absolutely choose to not talk.
about any of it i agree because i do think this movie has a lot of it even when i was like like pretty
like it was like nope we need a we should i still want your movie to come out because a lot of people
worked on it but you don't have any other thing coming out if you get cast and something else up
coming like we should come on we need to hear something i i think there should be uh you know
statements made and i do think i don't know how much this impacted the box office i really
don't i'm actually surprised it's shit well that's why like i don't i'm surprised that
doesn't come up in these questions. And I think that's a good thing. And I'm really, I appreciate this audience not making it about that. Like, to be honest, it's about the movie. And the fact that that hasn't come up is, is thank you. But, you know, we need facts. I think Ezra working on themselves. Great. Fantastic.
That's true. You know, it's just there's some actions that, especially when we're talking about what was the whole thing about the whole thing about the grooming situation. To me, I'm like, that's an unforgivable. If true. Yes. Unforgivable. Period. So clarity. Do one an interview.
Just one interview
Did you see any of his interviews on the carpet?
I didn't see any.
Yeah, there was one.
Is there one?
There was one that went out, but I think that was it.
Okay.
But that's just great in the move.
Impressive work.
I think that's amazing in it.
All right, guys, we've got to, we're going to do this.
We're going to do this.
We're going to shift gears.
We're doing it all.
We're doing everything right now.
James, go, hold on, everyone will be quiet.
Okay, I'll sit silently.
All right.
Here we go.
Oh, yeah, you can't
refill Ezra's scenes.
Impossible to film other scenes.
Yeah, he's...
They're every frame.
Can you imagine?
C.G. I already as awful as it is.
No one's worse what it looks.
Also, I'm not sure another actor can quite do that.
That was a truly impressive performance.
Like, truly...
Tom Hardy.
I've seen that movie, and I don't know,
as you're a young, Tom Hardy and
30-year-old Tom Hardy.
Flash. I love Tom Hardy.
I love Tom Hardy.
Frank Grant Guston could have done it.
Chef C.
The guy who did it could have done it.
Chef C.
Chef C. says, hold on a second.
Hold on. I've messed everything up in my life.
Chaos.
What are you doing, man?
Chaos.
You want to get nothing.
Let's get nothing.
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the emcee behind the production
nitty-gritty you wish they'd be better at
well maybe one day do a video on that
I think Secret Invasion which we all did
have the privilege of seeing
with Samuel Jackson
right next to us the entire time
staring right out of it. So it's the best thing
Marvel's ever done. No that's not
it was not there
but the
I think
Secret Invasion is the exact
pivot for
every complaint you've ever heard
that was one more i will
i want you guys to tune in in the video to see
our ben of course where to put his out there
see what our opinion is
i will say that i was admittedly
a little bit surprised by the rotten tomato school
shocked
it's been a while since i was like shocked
yes really
and then i went through it and i was like
are you the same people that complain about the old emce
Because this, all the things you claim to want, this is doing, and it's doing it exceptionally, in my opinion.
I put out a 50-second thing, because I didn't want to, like, you know, reveal too much of our opinion, but I was gobsmacked by the Rotten Tomato.
I was a little bit surprised.
Ryan Clem Ben's Run, Mark Berry, run to the Super Chats.
James Gunn recently said Spider-Verse inspired him to pursue high-quality animated films for the DCU.
D.C. characters do you think led themselves to that format?
every single one of them
because especially there's more of a fantastical world
to the DC universe than say
the MCU actually or at least with what
James Gunn is starting off with right now
of course there's Marvel characters that are absolutely
fantastical I just think what the DC direction
that he's going is a little more fantastical
so I think any one of them is so specifically
creature commandos that's the one
I think he should do a creature commandos animated series
Oh, what an idea.
I wonder if he's going to do something like that.
Yeah.
I think there's a lot of good DC characters that could be, like the Green Lantern core, I'd love to see, you know, we're going to get the two of them in live action, but there's so many members of the core be cool to see an animated Green Lantern.
I think that Plastic Man really suits animation.
I'd love to see that comedy translated to, like, premium animation.
I think there's a lot of really interesting Justice League dark implications.
I'd love to see Constantine Live Action again, but I also would love to see certain things in the world of Swamp thing.
Maybe not.
So Swamp Thing is deserve it of a live action for sure,
but also deserve it of it animated.
I think there are different things you can do in each.
So there's a lot of characters that would benefit both.
And, yeah, I'm excited.
I would love to see a polka dot man origin story,
like a horror tale of that.
Well, and if you read Swamp Thing, the Alan Moore stuff,
it ends so in a way that could not be filmed.
So I'd really love to see some of the things that,
like, Alan Moore did with Swamp Thing and animated.
We need to face facts, boy.
What are the facts?
Swamp Thing is boring.
Bees are lies.
Lies and slander.
lies and slander.
I just liked it in the chat,
people have been sounding off
what kind of nuts they want to get.
Yeah, I saw cashews and some honey roasted.
And also, Ayesha confirmed,
or at least clarify that I guess
Ezra Miller gave their interview
on the carpet to a rep from the studio.
Oh, that makes sense.
That's a safe place for them to have the one talk.
Guys, be quiet.
Run, Barry, run to the Super Chats.
Raccoon Shampoo.
Thank you.
How do you think D.C. will go about
communicating to general audience.
since the Superman legacy is a new thing.
James Gunn will probably do some introduction in the trailer.
How will they rebuild the box office for lack of better wording?
Bigger reason you have to recast is because of that.
Like you can't keep Henry because of that.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I mean, the fact that Flash is not doing well at the box office,
like it is coming in under expectations.
Which were low.
And the expectations were not even that high for what this movie needs to profit.
I think it's one of the most expensive movies of all.
time. I know FastX is the most expensive
of the year, which might be the most expensive of all time. This is
like number three. Yeah, it's
not looking good for the box office
whatsoever. I mean, the good thing is it's
at least got two weeks to perform well.
Wait, no. When does Indy come out? Yeah, any comes
out in two weeks. Yeah. So it's at least got two
weeks, whereas like, you know, these other
movies had like, Spider-Man, the transforms
than this. Right. Yeah, so it's got some time
to perform. However,
yeah, like,
and the critic, and the audience scores looking to
coming at like a B-plus maybe.
Yeah, the same scores in. Not great.
Because like, even the Rodman has the highest scores, like, 85, so you're like, okay, so
maybe the audience scores, is that going to be a B-B-plus?
So, yeah, I think there's never been more of a sign now that, like, they need a fresh
restart for sure.
They've had two, this one is essentially a sequel of sorts from Zach Snyder's Justice
League of any of the Justice movies, and then Shazam, too, is terrible.
performance and then Wonder Woman
like no one saw that in the theater is 84
for like some apparent reason
it's the weirdest thing
all Aussie vlogs I'm so proud of this
Vincent the Naurafrio wants to play Swamp Thing that was
a coy exclusive he gave me that
during a live panel interview at
Megacons so I was very proud of that
always the chance to just fucking fluff your
own self huh corn
I just got to acknowledge that you're getting that
swamp thing but yeah I think they're going to make it very clear
the DCU is different I think casting I love
Henry Cavill I think you have to make it very clear
these are different characters
And honestly, like I said earlier, I think Flash not doing well is going to mean clean slate, not rolling reboot.
John, Breyer and Rayne wants to know, wouldn't the supermarket receipt have proved Barry's dad's alibi?
Oh, my God, yes.
That is an excellent point.
I thought of that.
I didn't love thinking of it.
What if he was always afraid of bring up the negatives.
Canonically, he crumpled the receipt up and threw it away on the way home.
That's what Roy would have said.
if we brought it up early at the stream.
The wormhole
I would have imagined
that he probably would have
used the receipt
to explain
types of the body
wipe the blood off the knife
it's really a strong
oh no I love you so much
you see the carbon paper
wasn't made then
and so therefore the ink
faded off really
fast in his pocket
it's also a supermarket
that I imagine
they regularly frequent
couldn't there have been
some employee there
who might have been like
yeah yeah he was definitely
there I saw him at checkout.
You know, he could have had his own receipt machine, though, you know.
But the time to date it back in the 90s or so when this would have taken place.
It would have been cash.
So that's something.
Not a credit card, which has a timestamp.
That would have been cash.
That'd be harder.
But maybe the printer was broken.
That's what reverse flash was busy doing.
He went back and he killed them off.
He just stole all the receipt paper.
Like the Grinch, he just like takes all the paper.
There's only one camera in that store.
And it's on this camera a show.
Oh, man.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Clouded memory.
100% correct.
The fact that movie doesn't even have
Barry contemplate checking who killed his mom
seemed odd to me.
Well, Koi's right.
About whatever he said
for this movie of why not.
Why he didn't do it?
Honestly, if you know who killed your mom,
you cannot not do something about it.
There's just one camera and it's on those tomato games.
They're the high risk item.
Those are premium organic containers.
These tomato cans are constantly being checked.
We need security cameras.
I want three cameras.
We spent the store's whole budget on this camera.
I also like that it was run row of cans,
and not even like a stock.
They were like, these five green cans cannot be disturbed.
Yeah, not the blue.
We don't need to.
Curie on the blue ones, just the green ones.
Andrew, thanks, Andrew for being here.
Saw this movie on 400 milligrams of THC and IMAX.
Wow.
Big mistake.
Love you guys.
The movie, not so much.
How can you even properly assess this movie?
Yeah, go back.
How'd you get home?
Go back and watch it with clearer eyes.
With eyes.
With your eyes open.
Just eyes.
400 milligrams.
That's it.
Like, I don't have felt terrified.
I don't do.
I don't have been in the sunken place.
I don't really do weed, but I know that's a big number.
The highest I've ever gone is like $2.50, and that was a one time and I would never do that again.
That was a trip to a week ago.
It was a terrible experience.
That sounds dangerous.
I tell you guys a story about sometime.
Dank.
Long story short, I thought I was in, it's true.
I was like freaking out at a bar and people were just laughing at me because I was,
I was genuinely freaking out the whole time.
You're in public?
Yeah,
I was terrible.
And I was,
I was going through some hard shit at the time.
And then,
so taking this,
and I was in this alleyway with a bunch of smokers,
like people smoking cigarettes.
And then I genuinely thought,
I'm only telling a story because it feels fitting
for what you've said in the fact that there's so much bad man talk.
I thought I was in Gotham City.
And like there were criminals.
And I thought like catwoman was crawling on the wall.
it's so good
but you gotta understand
I'm not like
Batman in Gotham City
I'm just a regular
I'm a civilian in
Prima alley
doesn't go well
for me
I'm just
I gotta walk home to the narrows later
nightmare of Gotham
I love this so much
I was just shouting at my friends
like
you gotta call me a fucking Uber
and get me the fuck
like I was just mad at them
and they were just
laughing at me.
Are you still friends of these people?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was a lot.
We brought us a lot closer.
You did.
You did go in public.
I was the one.
This was a choice.
This is a real bonding experience.
Oh, man, that's good.
In the check, don't feel about the eggs show.
It's okay.
As long as you care enough to try and get the pronouns right, I think that's what matters.
The great example of the thing I was talking about, though, people get so mad.
And it's like, we're effort is put in to do better.
That's what life's about is effort.
And it's so exhausting.
And people are like, they don't care enough.
about pronouns and thus they don't care about people
like we tried we're doing the work well and if you
screw it up don't don't get
defensive like I just just
just be like oh okay I'll update
you know and I think I think that effort
that openness is what counts
I'm gonna change my pronouns every two weeks
go for and if you guys
I accept up I'm going to accuse you
of terrible things Greg dash out
Stacey's mom
hey Stacey's mom
favorite members of the Bat family other than Batman
Mine of no particular order, Cassandra Kane,
Damon Wade, and Jason Todd.
Mine is specifically
Dick Grayson as Nightwing.
Love him.
Yep. Yep, yep, yep.
Yep, that's my favorite one.
Easily.
Is Alfred part of the Batman?
No.
He is so!
You're a slave, Alfred.
He is the paternal force.
You are an employee.
Oh, don't you do not come to the family Christmas party.
You get a W-9 at the end of the year.
Dick Grayson's a huge one for me
I'm a big fan of when they have
like less than 20 bat family members
like I personally like it contained I like Dick Grayson
I like I like Tim Drake but I don't like it when it's like
part of 20 of them
I think that Cassandra Kane is really interesting solo
I like actually like it better by yourself I'm a big
Barbara Gordon guy I think Barbara Gordon's my favorite
next to Dick Grayson I think she's great as Oracle
great as Batwoman great as just the daughter
of a commissioner she's got a lot more depth to her
than a lot of the bat family
and Alfred. Those are my three.
Alfred, Nightwing, Barbara Gordon.
Mel Gibson.
Mel Gibson, obviously.
Freedom.
Malick Curry.
Thank you, Malik.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a 10.
Run to the Super Chats.
I genuinely enjoyed parts of this movie.
It had an 8 out of 10 prior to the end.
Ending took it down to a 6 for me.
Wow, that's wild.
Like the action.
Jualand? I just didn't like how the
Okay, okay, you're talking about the finale. I just didn't
like how the importance of Supergirl and
Batman was basically wiped
away. A little bit, yeah.
Kind of.
But it wasn't their universe. Okay, he went to that universe.
I'm conflicted. I like the
point of you can't save
the both of us and also this whole
universe that you've created here
is doomed and you've got to let it all go.
I like the purpose of that. But also, yeah,
it is sort of like, oh damn.
Yeah, no, the point of it is that
It's not like they could keep this universe intact with Supergirl and Batman around.
Like, they're going to lose.
It's inevitable.
So he has to go back in time and, you know, stomp his mom's face.
American history flash.
Let's go.
Strange man with sunglasses and a new hat tags on them just suddenly attacks this woman.
He had to just murder his mom intentionally.
I did find it interesting that throughout the film,
They do dress the different berries in yellow at key moments.
I do think that was going to be plans for the sequel.
And like the young,
the young berry was in yellow very pointedly.
Yeah.
But I don't know if that was like, you know, just for comic fans,
like, he-he, or if it was going to be any sort of like delivery.
He-he.
You want to get nuts.
Let's get nothing.
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Captain Kirk.
Cash shoes.
Do you think Machete, well, directing The Brave and the Bold,
do you think we may actually see a more comic animated series accurate Batman
that uses both gadgets and detective skills,
Bastogne, how he handled Keenan?
Yes, I do.
That is a big aspect that I am very much looking forward to.
I think what he did not see reverse flash.
Are you the same one who's been in this chat saying this?
I haven't seen this.
I think you saw reverse flash,
but I think you saw it was a yellow light.
Watching me way wrong.
Eric Cross has some video from a camera.
But really.
Do you zoom into the?
this one pixel.
The reflection in his eye in the sequence.
Yes, I completely think that, well, it'll be one that differentiates itself from Robert Pattinson's Batman,
but I am excited to see a Batman with a little bit more gadgets and gizmos and whatnot.
I hope he slides out in a poll and changes.
I hope he has bat repellent.
Sharks are repellent.
That would be amazing.
I think it'll be more fun.
But, you know, like what we saw, what he did with even like the old-school gadget gizmos that Michael Keenan
hat here. Even Bethlehk at an old
school. Exactly. Catlin Gun.
That's what I mean. I think there's a lot of potential
for what he can pull off. And I think
with James Gunn,
I feel like James Gunn's going to be really hands-on. I feel like eventually there's going to be one of these
movies where step out of way. You don't know what you're doing. I got it. I got it. Let me direct it.
Let me direct it.
Sure. I also like that the Flash movie was like
at the premiere, it was Hamada Gun,
saffron. Like, it was the old guard
and New Guard, and that feels really hands-on
unifying. And Jim Lee got promoted to
the head of, like, D.C. creative for all the
comics. There was a lot of thank you to Zach Snyder, too.
Yeah, there was. There was a lot of gratitude. And Ben Affleck
was clapping very, like, I noticed he, like, accelerated
his clapping. And I was like, that man's got a lot of respect for
Zach Snyder. And it was cool to see, like, that
respect. But I also think
that Mooscietti's going to
be more able to do
what he wants without having to make a
sequel, requal, launch
in point, ending point. Like, this will be
his Batman, and I think his love
of Batman is going to shine in a different way, and I
think that keeping Matt Reeves Batman will allow
this to be more fun-spirited, and a lot of
people have been wanting that from Batman for years, like
since no one took over it, but he's like, I want a fun
Batman. I think with Reeves, now you can have
the duality and dichotomy
of both. There it is, Bing-Go.
You keep missing that last D-word. Going off of
Malik's last one, he said, I genuinely enjoy
parts of this movie, I had an 8 out of 10 prior to
the end, and he took it down to it was six for me. I just
didn't like how the importance of Supergirl of Batman
was basically wiped away.
What he continued saying was,
I get that they used their inevitable deaths
to show Barry, you can't change the past,
but it just didn't sit right with me.
I do agree that there needed to be,
especially for Supergirl,
there needed to be a little bit of an extra umph.
For her.
Because at least with Batman,
they made the concerted effort to show,
like, hey, he at least got something out of this.
But Supergirl is just like,
I'm Mac, I'm dead.
Two lines from the actual film
Yeah
Very Shakespearean that one scene
I agree I agree with you
I'm not gonna disagree with you on that
But man I just think Sasha Kai is great
Truly so much presence
Great presence and she is
She is not ugly
She was
Captain Kirk is here
She was outside the screening
I went to
In bright silver pantola
Run to the Super Chats
What do you think about Wally being our new
flash for the DCU
do it and have Ezra Miller
play Wally and they use the comic
reasoning of Barry going missing in a crisis
which Wally could narrate her
to the audience a la the
Batman opening oh that's great who could
play Wally West
it should make more
10 years ago would have been perfect
what do you think
that's mean
I'm sorry time happens
the amount of people that got mad at me
for saying that like
the Harrison Ford Indiana Jones
used his age appropriately for stunts.
They were like, oh, that's ages.
I'm like, a 70-year-old man moving
is impressive.
Like, the, it's just, time happens.
It's not ageism to just note
life happening.
The embracing of age.
I did not know the Indiana Jones fandom
was so toxic.
Anyway, back to this toxicity.
I think that Wally West is the right move
because I think they made Barry Allen
kind of a mix between Wally West and Barry Allen.
I think of Barry Allen is a much more
golden age hero.
He's got like more that Hal Jordan quality.
I think Grant Guston plays him like,
80% Barry, 20%
Wally. I think that it's the inverse with
Ezrae plays a much more jokey.
He almost plays impulse.
But I think Wally West would be a good
eye line for the audience in the Justice League,
someone that you can attach to,
someone that you can really connect with
as a fun-spirited character
that is super kinetic and high energy.
And I think that's going to be important
with how big the Justice League
is going to be under James Gunn.
Yeah, I agree, man.
I agree.
You know, I still feel like Grant Gustav is
the definitive flash for me.
Especially Barry.
Yeah, I think Grant Guston's just perfect in that role.
No matter where that show falter,
Grant Guston was consistent.
Flash Gordon is the best one.
The Savior of the universe.
Did we catch up on the one we skipped?
What?
Did we catch up on the one we skipped?
I know we scrolled up to get the...
I can't see the mouse.
Oh, okay.
There was one we moved over to get the second part.
I was just making sure we got the person in between.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, got it, got it, got it, got to, got it.
Got a got to got a got to got.
Yes.
Okay, she's checking it.
Steve, Stevie the geek.
Oh, it's this one.
Holy shit, that super chat's huge.
Yes, you know, I can hear it.
It's a good transition.
Movie is not A-plus.
However, it's a love letter to DC Universe.
Also, I'm really happy you consider Snyderka-Canon.
Battle a Pots for Enough and reversing time.
I feel like there was one line in there that made me question if they were trying to
to say it's a continuation of both.
Oh.
I bet Walter Hamada was there being like,
cut those lines out.
Cut that shit out, man.
It's everything. It's nothing.
It's whatever you want it to be.
It's whatever the box office says it is.
Zach doesn't like me.
I mean, I think it worked as a Snyder sequel,
and I do think it was definitely a love letter to the Snyder cut.
And it definitely felt like,
although all those odd sequence felt like,
It was paying homage in a really nice way.
Oh, definitely, sure.
I don't know if it worked.
I think intention.
I think intention.
Intention.
Intention. There's intention.
Sure.
Also, Cameron Shisholm, yeah, enjoy that.
Joan's awful reaction.
Appreciate you checking that out.
I'm just finishing the episode.
All right, guys.
It's probably going to the next one.
Christian unpronounceable at that point in the stream.
The Jeep fuel must rise again.
Shit, that super chat's huge.
Okay, so like the scene of Barry phasing through,
what was like my favorite Christian of pronounceable says?
It looked exactly like I imagined it for decades.
Those were some damn good phasing scenes.
That's where Reverse flash was,
is he was in the molecules of the wall.
He was just hiding in the wall phasing tool.
It was also smart because you kind of get some,
you get like an origin tale of Barry
without getting an origin tale of Barry.
Yeah, I like that.
You know, like some of the explaining
and at least the alluding to,
and there's been a whole television show
dedicated to the Flash.
So I don't feel like we need
like a full-on flash reaction.
They Spider-Man HomeConnor.
Flash reaction, Flash, Origin, Talia.
Once the Beyond the Sea reaction going up?
I don't know. No one's watching
our Black Mirror videos, and they take too much work.
So, yeah, it's not going to upload any of them anymore.
So, Galindo.
Oh.
You want to get nothing.
Let's get nothing.
With Super Chats.
Congrats on the con.
Thanks, John.
I enjoyed the film, laughed a lot,
cried at the end,
loved Ezers' performance,
Beck Eat and Super Cow.
And seeing the cage so funny
when Barry tries running in the lab,
no power spaghetti,
Thoris, theory is chef.
Great summation.
Damn, that is everything.
Everything I like.
Some good shit.
Right there.
Well done.
That should be a rotten tomato's,
It was capsules.
It had to encapsulate everything I liked about the movie.
I'd be like, yep, all right here.
Super Cahier, Motherbook.
Did like the action, though.
A speed force run is amazing.
It's so funny.
Oh, yeah.
I'm glad it exists.
That's my big thing in this movie.
I'm really glad.
It felt like they loved Flash for me.
Bronson-Rite Wolf.
What are your thoughts on Lou Fragnal as the Incredible Hulk?
Well, I'm glad you asked in this stream.
It's an important time to talk about it.
What are your thoughts on Eric Benna as the Incredible Hulk?
Well, I think Lou Friigno was the definitive Hulk still to this day.
He is.
What are your thoughts on Eric Baddyes and Incredible Hulk?
I think in 20 years, they should have him championed something.
They will.
You know, they will.
He deserves it.
I want Ed Norton to cameo in the Secret War so bad.
I liked Eric Banna.
I loved Ed Norton.
He's still like Hulk to me.
I love Mark Ruffalo's take, but it's definitely like the team take.
Kind of like how Tom Holland is the team Spider-Man.
I consider Mark Ruffalo.
of that and Andrew Garfield to me as Spider-Man just
like Edna to me a spider as a Hulk.
Incredible Hulk for Eric Banna is one of those
movies that whenever I look back on it
I'm like, man, there was some cool shit
in there that I feel like is not
recognized enough. And then whenever I put
it on, I'm like, guys, this movie's so boring.
You're like,
are they right or am I right?
Passing me?
Every time
I'm like, when I think about it, I'm like
there's some cool shit.
Whenever I'm watching, I'm like, guys, we're so
Because Eric Bann is the one just called Hulk, right?
Eric Bann is just called Hulk and Norton's incredible Hulk.
Okay, I was confused.
So, yeah, I love the Incredible Hulk.
I've seen the Incredible Hulk.
I have not seen Hulk.
I love that, like, Ed Norton's so twitchy.
No, the Eric Banner one.
Why is it not on the list?
I just realized it now.
I was just reminded that it exists.
But now it is.
It's Ang Lee?
Yeah.
It's artsy.
Yeah, and he did, I remember people's praising his comic book-esque transitions.
I think if I divide the viewing experience up
by like two separate showings
I think it's enjoyable
You gotta paste yourself
Yeah sure
It takes a while to get going
Is Mal Montoya
Let's see if you'll wrap this up in four minutes guys
We got this
I would love to see Robert Patton's Batman
And his Batmobile in this movie
Dare I said it
Yeah I mean that would be that would be awesome
I hope he gets
I can't wait for Batman too
The Batman, too.
I'm one of my most anticipated movies.
Like, I'm glad.
I'm glad it's staying separate so they can do the fun stuff.
That Peguichael looks great.
Yeah.
Thank you, Isvale, for the support, my friend.
Tim Kogan.
Thank you, Kim Kogan for being here.
Prediction.
Blue Beetle post credit is BB's universe slamming into the Gunverse,
and that's a BB can be the first hero and Legacy be the first movie.
Interesting.
Gun did say that that would be the first official movie in the DCU, right?
Yep, on Rosamombe Show.
So he was like, no, no, no, this one counts.
Yeah, I think.
they probably did some reshoots where they took out
any references and they also probably made the universe
kind of a catch-all. I imagine
it's going to be kind of a clean slate movie where it's
like the 90s comic movies where it doesn't have a ton
of references to a universe. That way
later they can include Blue Beetle
but this movie doesn't include the other stuff.
I thought this one was supposed to be the reset.
That's what he said. He said
this would be the reset. He flat out
said in the announcement of when he announced
like 45 properties
he said, the flash is our reset
film. But then awkwarding comes out. I don't, I don't
get the impression this is the reset film i feel like with aquaman coming out it's basically
like i thought there would be something at the end that was like okay it's been reset
right i'm more like i got questions well no i think he's establishing there's separate universes
the multiverse has been established so everything else we experience is in the barry's just
trapped in some other universe he's just chilling hanging out with george but he's got his dad
that's nice all right yeah that i that i'm still kind of trying to piece that the whole
blue wield is the first character superman well like if there's different the third
The third act has those different orbs.
So this, it is an orb we haven't seen yet.
Like, if there's those different planetoids, like, we're on one of those.
I just because, like, I don't know.
It's a technical camera.
We run to the Super Chats.
That V-900.
It was odd to reshoot.
The ending with Clooney when we saw the set picks of Keating get at the same car.
But doesn't that make it a surprise?
As you're expecting Michael Keated?
Right.
I understand it was their way of closing up the universe as a joke, but it was strange.
Dan B-900, no one is going to deny the fact that it's strange, and it confuses the audience and raises questions.
However, it's George Clooney, and we love the Clunester, man.
He's been so much more respected because he's done so much more, like, cooler work after Batman and Robbins.
He's won Oscars, man, for acting.
People forget that he won an acting Oscar.
Siriana?
Siriana, man.
He got his nails torn off.
Siriana.
He also broke his back and had to go to therapy for years because of traumatic headaches.
Boring.
so he got seriatins.
And then he's, good luck, Chuck.
He won the Oster Ford.
Yes.
A brother, right, thou got his, you know,
that's why Dinko's trying to get that sequel up.
Yeah, man.
So, I didn't actually think it was strained.
I thought it made sense.
I thought it was a great way to tie it all up for me.
It's like a classic button of this kind of story.
Exactly to me.
And he has a classic George Clooney line.
What's the matter with you?
It's like what George Clooney would say.
I also feel like the joke of the whole George Clooney ever being Batman got
beautifully wrapped up. It was like closure.
Charles Smith, he says, for all the praise, Ezra gets, thank you for the super chat.
His performance was, uh, like Aviv of average?
Average, maybe, Aviv. Is that like mid? Is that like. Aviarud?
Is obvious. Screamed sexual insecurity. Well, they established that the man is a full grown
adult and has not had sex. He knows that it exists. It is a part of the character.
I don't think his performance is average at all. He played two.
very different people at himself, personally.
Yeah. I don't think it was that.
No, I thought they did an
excelsior job.
I can also type a seven-letter word
all the way, so I guess I just, who am I?
Hey, they gave us money.
He used the word ad. Nice.
An avenue? Nice. That's what I say
to all these brand deals.
And he's back. Put me through hell.
And yes, he does
continue to say, to save any
misconstruencies, I mean to
say, as Reilly as if the character is
sexually insecure, has a lot of
feminine mannerisms. This is why I was
feisty, because I don't, like, what's
wrong with having feminine mannerisms? Like, what's the problem?
That's, yeah. Well,
it just seems like a judgment, and that's
not, like. I'm a, I got
sexual sexual mannerisms.
I want to see a movie with Ezra Miller,
Jesse Eisenberg.
There is a guy on
the internet who, yeah.
Does Michael Sarah talk?
Yeah. Oh, that's so good. What do you want to
watch tonight?
Incredible.
Yeah, it sounds just like them.
I forgot who the guy is, but I just like them.
I think he plays him on the spectrum more than, like, effeminently.
Don't be racist.
I also don't like, I don't see someone having phenomenalisms as, like, a deterrent to the character.
I think it's, like, a strength to make him unique.
Sure, sure.
Say whatever bullshit you want to get them crowds.
That way you get hit up on your videos.
Say whatever, soy coy for your soy barial.
Reverse coi's gone.
Soy coi's here.
Yes.
People shouldn't have sexual freedom and fluidity.
They should be one thing.
Only one.
I just saw the blackening, which is really good.
I haven't seen anything about it, but other than I saw when I went to check the flashes
Rodents who made a score with the blackening had a much better to make the score.
The best joke of any film I saw this weekend was in it.
Sanctuary was very good.
Flash was a 7 out of 10 for me.
Blackening, maybe that'll be a video on demand release.
By the way, guys, for anyone who's like gives us crap about when we watch something
on video on demand here.
Studios love when you buy a video.
They keep all the profit.
And there's a reason why they release it so soon after because it is a massive profit margin for them.
So, yeah, are we not in the theaters doing it?
No, but the studios are not going to complain when you buy it.
We still buy it.
We don't download them and watch it.
We buy them and watch it.
That's how we do it.
Charles Smith, to save any misconstruencies, I mean, oh, yeah, we read that.
We already, yeah, you don't get two reads.
No, this is a multiverse.
We'll have a same.
Was there one before him, though?
Because there was a middle one.
We got the Charles Smith.
Okay, I got it.
We got the Dan V.
Right there on you.
You can look right there.
I see it.
I see it now.
Thank you.
Trying to keep three people on track is impossible here.
Like, are you including yourself in the third person?
There's three of us totally.
Yes.
It's hard to keep three of us on Shrek to finish on time.
Hold on a second, everyone.
All right.
Run, Barry, run to the Super Chats.
We are now watching Super Bowl with Season 3.
No one cares about our reactions to the world.
Or season 4 that's just been greenlit.
Yeah, I was going to get a lower budget too.
Yeah.
Imagine the post-credit scene with Affleck telling Barry to find them setting up the future crisis.
film homato wanted yeah i think one of the original post-credit scenes was actually ben affleck he gets he calls
barry and he's like barry i'm trapped somewhere else oh yeah i heard yeah i heard that too um then the mid-credit
scene with barry seen wonder woman aquaman and supergirl so that would still establish that like
oh we got another one come yeah that would have been cool i would have liked that i would have i would
have been there was also apparently a courtroom scene with like the whole justice league really yeah apparently
like everyone including Supergirl and
Michael King and the Batman were like in the courthouse
but I don't know how that would have worked.
That's why.
I care about Barry's death. We're very
invested. We're man. We loved him. We're here
to see that justice is served.
That would have been a great way. We know this
stuff. Gracian Ryan.
Yes.
Joey Chaz. Comic movies
aren't all flopping. Guardians did great.
Across Spiderverse was like number two animated film of all
time. It's okay to be wrong. Just don't be loud about it.
All caps is dumb for you. Yeah.
Rounding down for all the delays, boy.
I just, I'm just correcting.
Just showing my appreciation for my three gorgeous.
I didn't get it played.
Holy crap, guys.
Do it, do it, do it.
You want to get nothing.
Let's get nothing.
With Super Chats.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll watch Superman Lois on our own time.
I have planning on that.
I have planned on that.
Now I can watch it on the big TV with the lights off.
It's going to be great.
um just showing my appreciation for three gorgeous bays oh my god it's Logan
Marshall green in the thumbnail dude it's so sexy no no no shocker I know you cared
about not a lot of people it just it did like I'm feeling it what I'm feeling with
black mirror right now like God so many so much work put into this and no one's
watch and then I know he hired then like for the second one's like hired prepper for it
And it's like, oh, fucking Rick Pucketting money back.
So it's happened. It just happens sometimes, though.
Still enjoying the show.
But, you know, like, I can't do that for 15 episodes, guys.
But with Black Mirror, the differences, we've managed to get a lot of patrons from it to offset some of that, you know.
It's got to be the middle ground.
We've got to love what we're doing.
And also financially justify it at the same time.
Not like, like, oh, we're not making a 50% of it.
profit on this. It's like, no, it's like,
a lot of times, it's like,
broken enough. You don't want
to only always break even, but if you're
a constant, like for 15 weeks,
but if, you know,
you're making like a little bit of money, you're like,
all right, cool, that's good.
Got to pay people around here, man.
He's paid
for these. Yeah. By the minute.
He's paid for these. Technically.
There's a way to do a minute factor out of here.
Cam plays.
Oh, my God.
A good one.
You want to get nothing.
Let's get nothing.
Do it quick, Coy.
What comic book series do you, do I agree with the original Miles run?
So there's a run called Ultimate Spider-Man that leads to the Ultimate Spider-Man that is Miles Morales.
So Ultimate Spider-Man starts in the year 2000s, written by Byr Michael Bendis and Illustra by Mark Bagley.
So look for Ultimate Spider-Man number one by Bendis and Bagley from the year 2000.
It's got red panels on the side.
It's him swinging.
So that is the start of that run.
You can read Volume 1, which is 1 through 13.
Issue 13 is one of the best Spider-Man titles ever.
If you like it, keep going, but that'll give you just a basis to get to the,
the Miles stuff. And then when he comes into the universe, it's in Jonathan Hickman's Secret
Wars, which is the 2015 run. All you need to read for the Jonathan Nickman's Secret
Wars really is the Jonathan Nickman Fantastic Four, then his Secret Wars, which folds everything
into our universe. The incursion event of the Secret Wars that Jonathan Hibgen wrote was basically
to allow Miles into our 616 universe from his 1610 universe. So start with the 1610
Ultimate Spider-Man, get to the 616 Fantastic Four, then read the Secret Wars that fold it all in,
and then you can read Miles Browns from there and pretty much get the context for everything
that he is.
Coy, that was really impressive.
Thanks, man.
I don't know if people have ever pointed this out about you, but you talk fast and efficiently
and you use good words and you're great at summarizing your points.
And you can do that all like off the dome.
And I know the things, which is good.
But I don't think anyone ever says that about you.
No, no.
That's a great point.
Yeah, buddy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dan V-900.
Oh, he's got two.
Equating to a 10.
Run, Barry, run to the Super Chats.
The Flash coming out after the Crosseus Fighterverse
that had no favors.
Like everything ever were all at once coming up
before multiverse of madness.
Yeah.
I feel like everything ever were all at once
affect, well, see,
it wasn't as big though.
Yeah, I remember everything in one were rolling once
was still like a little indie film.
Yeah.
So not everyone had been seeing it yet.
But those who did see it
We're greatly affected by their experience by the multiverse of madness.
I completely get it with that.
I don't really feel that.
I feel like they're still very different in what they're setting out to do so that I'm not watching it, comparing it, going.
You see, Spider-Verse did this.
I thought Spider-Verse did it better, and here's what they should have done with Spider.
I feel like this whole stream we haven't really even compared to the Spider.
I think it's the first time we mentioned it was when I said it was doing well.
Like, it actually can come up.
We haven't compared it, right?
Whereas, like, with everything ever all at once and multiverse,
there are so many similarities in what they want to do that you're like, oh, yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, I can see kind of like, I just saw a multiverse movie.
I don't want to see another comic book multiverse.
I can see that.
But, you know.
My biggest thing was Guardians was so good.
And then across the Spiderverse was somehow even better.
So Flash just had a tricky, like, that was more of an issue than the multiverse issue.
Heather, you are so loyal to us on our Patreon.
Do not send us a super chat.
And your super sticker did go through.
What I will do is send you my bank account information.
Correct.
So you can zell me or wire me $1,000.
So that would be preferred, honestly.
Yes.
Kind.
Because that would just be a private exchange.
Did you just get it?
He was calling you.
The Disney publicist?
The Disney publicist is calling me.
Marshall's like, why aren't you here?
Yeah.
There's a hundred people here.
It's my birthday.
Wait for you.
We should talk about it.
DC movie longer for the Disney public
Certain people had their pitch for straight for Flash
and spoiled cameos, due to early due to
Ezra Miller. My favorite
reference was Keaton asking for the wait.
The weight? Oh yeah, when he's
like, how much do you weigh, which is a reference to Batman
89 when he asks her how much he weighs
to use the same lift?
He uses it as a bomb here for that lift.
That was a really well done reference.
I love that reference. Because if you don't even
get the reference right away,
it still works because he's trying
to estimate how much power he needs.
yeah and if you do get it then you're like seeing that this batman has evolved it's genius i i was
really impressed that's a really well that's a very very well done um reference so yeah okay
but we did get stickers john uh-huh all right guys coy i'm running down for you by two and a half
hours okay all right except these terms end condition don't worry coy you did transformers review
for 15 minutes i ran it up to an hour i'm generous
That video did well
Not well enough
I'm generous
You know you're generous when you go
I'm generous
I'm the number one
Humble list
Says Mr. Point out everything
I get done around here
A kind of guy
Huh?
Look what I
Oh Vince
Look what I do
No one
Quo doesn't wait for compliments
He's the kind of guy
He's going to wait to point out
What he's done first
You know, did it?
Shut up John
Oh boy
Me
Shut up
I need to be compliment
The stream
is bringing out the worst in doing it.
That's right, man.
Now that I could put my elbows at this table,
I've adopted a whole new attitude.
Another hour.
Next stream is going to be all elbows, boy.
I'm just here to be like hanging out.
Let me tell you assholes something, you know.
This is long-haired keeping.
This is going to actually do good things for the stream.
We need a longer table, though.
We do.
Because this, frankly, is one elbow.
No, that's good, because that'll keep your energy
is the central, like, table energy.
And then we're, like, kind of hanging.
And then we're only half relaxed.
We're, like, 80s kids, just, like, chilling in a poster.
That way, it's perfectly proportionate and symmetric.
All right.
We did everything.
We had their gear sticker.
Guys, we've done it.
We've done it all.
We got the last envy?
No.
Yes, we did.
I read it.
You don't pay attention.
Coyle cameos early?
All right.
You don't pay the weight.
The whole thing about the weight.
We did a whole commentary about the weight.
Sorry, I got.
Lean back, Greg is angry.
You see what.
You see what.
what I deal with your guys.
I'm still leaning forward to your happy.
How many times have you guys been like, do we do this?
And I'm like, yeah, we just did a whole thing about it.
But there were a few times where we hadn't.
That's true.
Yes, and then we did them.
And we got nervous, though.
So it's worth the margin of here.
I think.
To try.
No.
This is how we should in the stream fighting.
Who's winning, chat?
Who's winning right now?
Like, don't even like let people think we're like,
You're like, I'm just turning this camera off.
This is done.
You're exhausted, Dinah Guy.
I keep going forever.
I've had like 3, 14 to 15 hour days in a row.
It's been a big.
I can keep, this is nothing compared to that.
So stop yelling at me, Dinah Guy.
You're getting defensive.
Should we plug the interview?
I haven't had to apologize to a couple people.
What interview?
The one that I did for the thing that drops.
I'll interview the director of Secret Invasion.
It doesn't remind you, and I didn't know if we should do that.
No, okay.
No, I know we're ending with the sex joke.
There it is.
Nobody is winning.
Yes, thank you.
Accurate.
True.
All right.
Gene.
Also, check out Jean's, okay.
Check out Jean's new Prince book.
All right, before we end, check out Gene's book.
Okay.
So I don't like have a joke.
It's not like my Captain Hook joke.
You know, like, how did Captain Hook?
Have you heard my Captain Hook?
No.
How did Captain Hook die?
He wiped his ass with a little.
wrong hand
classic
now I really just have like a sketch
idea of what my
flex joke is I've loved
in the injustice game you know that
fight maneuver when
he goes in the speed force
he does a bunch of punches and
like to their whole body and then it goes
into real time mode and then
then you see their opponent go like
all at once
I want to see that for like a scene
when you know he has to rush to get to work and iris is like oh but barry why don't we just do it really fast
and he's like i don't have time but he's like but i could still satisfy you then he goes into the speed
force and it does her in like you know like 500 positions just super duper fast gets out of it
and then she's like i thought we were going to oh and then she just feels all the sensations
everywhere
just like pops into
like orgasmic
to smoke in a cigarette
right away
and people wonder how Barry
gets Iris West
the friction alone
she knows
oh he's got flash
lube you know that if Clark Kent
has like kryptonite condoms
he's got flash loop
there's some scientific lubricant
that can withstand the friction
and feed
he's got it
anyway guys
he's a scientist
that's my flash sex idea
all right
that's good
It's an even weirder place to end the stream than fighting.
Thank you guys so much for being here.
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Appreciate everyone who contributed to our super chats and stream labs.
In all sincerity, thank you, John, again, for being here, being awesome.
It's everything everyone wants.
It's amazing to hear.
That's great.
I had to give that.
I should have ended it there.
That's a good joke.
Coy, thank you for bringing in the A game here.
There's a reason you are brought here so often now, specifically to bring your comp,
knowledge to reaction in videos like the
extraction to you. Couldn't keep it sincere. I'm
sorry. Nope, I know. I felt you
like not knowing how to period. Whatever. I don't even know
how to take a compliment. That's true. I gave you a few.
I didn't like it. If I don't know how to receive
one, that's what I don't know how to give one sincerely.
I understand it now.
It's an oroborous.
It's a snake
complimenting its own tail.
Thank you guys.