The Reel Rejects - THE FLASH SPOILER REVIEW! Cameos, Surprises, Easter Eggs, Ending & MORE!

Episode Date: June 18, 2023

The Flash Movie (2023) Spoiler Talk & Breakdown for the DCEU film starring Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton Batman, Ben Affleck Batman, Supergirl Sasha Calle, the return of General Zod from Man Of Steel (M...ichael Shannon), & plenty of easter eggs/cameos like the George Clooney Batman Ending Reveal & Aquaman Post-Credits Scene. The DCEU film is rolled over into the James Gunn DCU which will reboot Superman and feature Blue Beetle - a real Flashpoint if you will that will begin our journey to a new Justice League. Coy Jandreau, John, & Greg are here to tell you if this movie lives up to the hype. We'll be New Rockstars in this review as we Screen Crush this live stream with Heavy Spoilers. Snag Yourself Our Exclusive BATVERSE Shirt! https://shopzeroedition.com/products/batverse-t-shirt #TheFlash #TheFlashMovie #DCU #DCEU #EzraMiller #Batman #MichaelKeaton #BenAffleck #Superman #Supergirl #GeneralZod #ManOfSteel #zacksnyder #snydercut #zacksnydersjusticeleague #restorethesnyderverse - Follow Coy Jandreau On Social Media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CoyJandreau TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau - Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects - Support The Channel By Checking Out Our Bomb A** Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch - POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think we're live. Looks like we're live. Ladies and gentlemen, you know what to do when we first go live. We need you. To leave a like, first of all. That would be great. Go ahead, leave a like. And then on top of that, too, tell us if you can actually hear us.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That's a very, very important thing. What's going on, John? Just making sure the text is not running off the side of the screen. Ah. Yes. Aesthetic. We're live. Okay, I saw the first one.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Do I was. Thanks. I'm thinking about the playback here. One second, guys. I'm going to make a little adjustment. Okay. Make a minor, minor adjustment here. This needs to be a tad bigger.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I understand John's concerned. Don't worry, John. I got us covered, even though I'm going to minimize us in a tiny bit. We don't matter. It's okay. It's the king. Don't worry, guys. This is the beginning.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Welcome. We're going to do a flash live stream, spoiler talk today. It's going to be a blasty blast. This movie is killing it at the box office right now. I've never seen a movie make so much more money in my entire life. Look out at a time. It's doing insanely well. But before we go into everything, I got a couple of announcements that I want to make,
Starting point is 00:01:16 especially for those who are going to be watching some of the playback. But if you're live, you're going to be the first ones to hear this right now. This is the official announcement for it. You know what? I'm going to just temporarily just make it about us really quick. Well, hold on. Oh, wait. Hold on a sec. We are going to be having a panel at Comic Con. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yep. Saturday. Yep. Don't worry, John, you're invited. Thank you. John's just now finding out. I already just, I already booked your hotel, John. So we are going to be having, what Saturday is it going to be? We've got a Saturday panel, the 20th. Like, Saturday, that's the day. Whatever the Saturday is where the Marvel of panel is, yeah. So apparently, our.
Starting point is 00:01:59 WonderCon panel went over so well because we had that like on a Sunday morning, which is like a shitty time to have a panel, like just an awful time. And then we ended up like having so many people show up that they offered. They were like, do you, we can give you Comic Con and we'll give you Saturday a few hours before Marvel. And I was like, wow, that's a really generous offer. And admittedly it was a little bit stressed because Comic Con is already a very stressful event. But then enough people talking to were like, you should just do it. And I was like, fine. Okay, we'll
Starting point is 00:02:31 pull the plug. And yeah, we're going to be having a Comic-Con panel. I wanted to see John's reaction live, and it's very funny. Yeah. John's reaction, oh. Interesting. Well, I also sitting here like, don't just assume you're involved.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Like, cool. Congratulations. You imagine. You have a shit we would get if it was just like coy. I can imagine many logical scenarios in which that would be like, oh, we can only do the two. No, no, no, man. But I've known it for, like, a week, and I've been, like, waiting to see John's face.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah, that's very, very exciting. I'm, I cannot even believe it. I'm honored. I'm not worthy. So, yeah, I'm a large part thanks to Coy, large part thanks to Paul. Can we say, isn't there? Yeah, he's my publicist. All right, cool, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:14 He's not my high MDB. We can mention Paul. So, yeah, guys. Oh, you know what I just noticed? This chat is not refreshing. That's a problem. Oh, my God. I was like, I was like, no one's interacting in the chat.
Starting point is 00:03:25 No one likes any of us. This whole time, I was like, I don't think anyone in this life, so if you saw our energy. Suddenly, I was like, Greg was right, we shouldn't have a panel. If you saw our energy, I was like, I don't, we maybe not look the most excited right now, because I'm like, no one's interacting with us. This whole time I was like, this panel's not going to go as well as I thought. The enthusiasm rides off. And then I realized the chat was just frozen.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That was so funny. Jesus Christ. literally lived what you thought. I was like, wow, this is really not going over. Got to call Paul and just tell him now, man. We don't want that heat. That's why my reaction was so little. It was just because, like, no one else was telling me how to react.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, what is San Diego? I think San Diego starts the 19th, so are they going to be the 22nd? Is it? San Diego's... No, no, we're the 22nd. He's Wednesday's preview night, so yeah, it's 22nd. All right. Well, here we go, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Let's talk about the flash. Let's get it going. So, real, now before we go into the spoilers, so yes, we're obviously going to have a lot of spoilers here. We're going to be doing this spoiler. Talk, keep saying spoilers. We have not heard John's opinion on the movie. So, John, why don't you go ahead, kick us off?
Starting point is 00:04:38 Because Koi and I, we rewatched it. It went to the premiere. It's plus one. Yeah. And I'll tell you guys, it didn't actually get better for me, which I was surprised by. I was convinced it would. get better for me on the second viewing, and it actually, and it's really, especially with comic book movies, usually they go up. And this one, it kind of went down a little bit for me.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I'm still like a 7.5, I would say, like a 7 to 7.5 out of 10. It got better for me after the second viewing, not during it, but only by like a little bit. But John, you saw one time, what was your, did you see it? Oh, you see twice? I saw it again last night. I heard off camera what your first opinion was. Yes. Did it go up for you the second time around? Because you were on the lower side. Like, he was way lower than us.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Whoa. I came out, yeah, I came out of the first viewing very conflated. Like that night I was like, wow, I have no idea how to feel because at first I was like, okay. And then, you know, after an hour, I was like, I don't know if I like that at all. And then an hour later, I was like, but there's some really
Starting point is 00:05:44 great stuff in there. And then I saw it the second time. And the second time was a much more smooth viewing experience and it was a much more fun viewing experience, partially because the second time I went in knowing to expect a comedy. I looked at it like a comedy the second time, and that alleviated a lot of things, but I still left with many of the same takeaways. If that makes sense, it was a smoother, more enjoyable film experience the second time I was less distracted by like, whoa, where's the tone? But yeah, it's still a kind of strange hodgepodge,
Starting point is 00:06:17 with some things in it that I really, really like, some things in it that are quite questionable, and a lot that's pretty good. Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go. Yeah, it's a little all over the place this movie. It went up from a 7.7 to either a 7.9 or an 8.1 for me.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I know it's not an 8.0. So it's either 7.9 or an 8.1. And I think that's because of the time I've thought about it and the times I've talked on other shows, the times that I've conferred with people that had highs and lows with it. I do think that the heart of it is so much better than it should have been with all the interference
Starting point is 00:06:50 and I think a lot of my negatives are because of the interference which doesn't change the fact that that is part of the movie. Like, it is very much a five movie movie, but I do think that it accomplished so many things that are nigh impossible.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Like, I genuinely feel like I know who the Flash is now. I genuinely feel like I know like a good take on a Flashpoint story which is very dense. I do feel like it was a great Batman 3 but it never wasn't a Flash movie. I do feel like they did
Starting point is 00:07:15 the fan service in a way that didn't feel, in the first two acts anyway, that didn't feel like it undercut the film itself and the hardest thing of all for me was it was a movie that was so heart-wrenching but also genuinely funny. I laughed way more than I expected. I genuinely had some belly laughs and I almost cried
Starting point is 00:07:30 near the end. So it did enough for me that I was able to look past some of my issues with the style of the CGI and with the clear five movies that it had to be. Fascinating. Yeah, I it's cool. Okay, so we all
Starting point is 00:07:45 That was, yeah, we're all different this time. We all have a... It's like a seven. None of us have like an, uh, it seemed to have this like over glowing praise for it. Not a five or ten. I would say that if you watched our, like at least the review that Koi and I did out of the theater, the things that I thought were strength still stand.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But on my second viewing, the things that I was saying I had issues with actually became even more underscored for me when I was watching it. And I just couldn't look past a lot of things. And the novelty of fun actually diluted a tad bit for me on the second viewing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm able to see past like the excitement of seeing Michael Keenan and, you know, CGI Cameo Fest. So which I net, which the CGI, the cameos at the end never really did anything for me because the actors aren't there.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I mean, I know you can't get, you know, Christopher Reeves there. Apparently Nick Cage filmed his and I did not get that impression. It looked like someone could have made that on YouTube. I think the Lego animation that that kid did for across the Spirer. Genius. But if he filmed that, I wish that they actually let him have a line. That way it would have felt like at least we got somewhat of a character. He even gave George Clooney a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And I liked the Clooney a lot. I really thought that after years of Clooney apologizing, having his one line be like, oh, fuck a Batman, was genius. Like, I thought that worked. Well, guys, in the chat, can you spamper me really quick? spam for me out of 10 what would you rate your experience of the flash I want to see what you all have to say
Starting point is 00:09:23 I also did my DC ranking that was very interesting to look at where I put it because I was like what do I feel about it like it's hard to put it with other movies because it's so like what is this and it is very much a victim of its own hype man it did not help having Tom Cruise be like cinema and Saslav and Storsese really should not
Starting point is 00:09:40 praise this one well you see I think where the movie is I really, this is when I really, I mentioned, we briefly said it in our non-spo. Okay, so where are we at? A lot of eights. A lot of seven and a eights. So we're on the same page. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:55 See, when we, when I first saw it, I was an eight. And then the second time I went down like seven point five to seven. Some, some, I'm like somewhere in that range. I think the, the, the threat of general Zod is just not a, there's no palpable tension at all to that. I like, I, what I really feel like they needed to do. was take a little bit of a note out of how they handled Avengers Endgame because, you know, Thanos dies in that movie
Starting point is 00:10:21 and then they have a Thanos coming back from the past, so it's like a Zod situation, right? And that end game did such a good job at reestablishing the threat of Thanos all over again to the point where when you get to that final battle, it's still intense, you still understand the threat level and whatnot. Whereas Zod, it really relies on you just having seen Man of Steel.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And Karen. Also caring about man of steel It's not just seeing like you'd be like man I love Zahn and man of steel And I did it I wasn't so I was not only I just wasn't a fan of the way Zod was portrayed But I also thought they really failed at reestablishing Zod So much in this movie to the point that when they got to there
Starting point is 00:10:59 I didn't even see how he was much of a threat Until he like actually killed Supergirl And then I was like oh okay maybe he's better this time around or something like that And there's little things about the pacing that were really just bugging me throughout And when it first became highlighted to me, it was when Batman and the two flashes, they parachute off of the plane, and then it just cuts to, they're on the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Instead of, like, seeing them parachute. I was like, okay, all right, we're skipping a beat. And then that kind of just keeps happening a lot, where every scene, after they save Supergirl, just starts becoming like, this is good enough. Like, move on. This is good enough. And that's why I feel like the studio is there.
Starting point is 00:11:42 They don't even get a moment. with like Supergirl suit, you know? It's just like cut to her wearing the suit. And even she's like, I don't care about humanity. Five minutes later, I'm here to help humanity, you know? It just starts moving so fast. And then even when they get to the multiverse collision at the end, I'm like, there was nothing really set up about this to be a finale threat, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:03 And I, look, guys, the reason I'm talking so much is because my issues with the movie couldn't say in a non-spoiler, because this is obviously so spoilers. And I want to have a more balanced. opinion, even as I'm talking about it right now. It's just I got some things that I'm like, I want to clarify what I want to talk about. I had that hard of a time doing it on spoiler ever. Yeah, almost every scene didn't finish.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, that's a good point. They were so like, just quick, get it over with it. It started becoming that way, especially after they save Supergirl. And there's a four hour cut. Sorry, John. Oh, no, no, you're good. It's a movie to me that feels like the parts are greater than, the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. It's like there are a lot of great
Starting point is 00:12:41 scenes, beats, moments, but like the whole. hole that they turn into doesn't feel as well-rounded as certain moments do you know and I think like on the second viewing I was like okay like for a movie that has to chop chop through the second half like it could be worse it could be choppier but it is very
Starting point is 00:12:57 apparent or it feels like a lot of stuff was changed remixed et cetera and there are so many scenes where you could tell like by the way people are facing like oh there was more dialogue or something here that got excised yeah it was kind of like that throughout you know what I got a big
Starting point is 00:13:13 Good question. Big question. Yes. How come Barry never bothered to find out who killed his mom? Because that's the sequel. He just didn't have time to run over after dropping off some fixing the tomatoes on the shelf. Be like, who's the one to kill my mom? How come Barry doesn't... He just never could have found out who that was?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Real answer? Sequel, my answer in Head Cannon was, I think he thought then he would try to change it. Like, my rationale was that he would know who it was. That's what I was thinking. I was like, wouldn't you then? want to act on it? I feel like with the amount of power he has in the movie, I'm like, he would at least want to feel like, okay, let me try to convict this guy in my present time.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah, but that's a huge change because then his mom dies. Oh, I like it. No, I'm saying after his mom was leaving and find out who actually killed his mom. Michael C. Hall is yellow flash. So, yeah, it would be reversed. I mean, yeah, okay, the answer is reversible. It is. But the movie plays it like it was as someone who just broke in and stabbed it.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Which is what you think. Yeah, that's the rationale. But it was reverse flash, which I think was supposed to be the sequel, which, according to the box office, will not occur. But I hope that Sasha Akaye gets to play Supergirl again. I didn't, I left, I think the reason it's grown on me is the, you're right. The pieces are what I think of. And Enimushiyadi has said there's a four-hour cut. I think that might be the movie that, like, I would love to experience.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But when I think of the pieces, I'm so impressed by the pieces. I think it went up from that, like, C-plus to be minus-ish. But that's also so tricky in just the scope of DC. there's like an anti-bell curve of DC for me because DC is a different animal of how their movies go really, really low to really, really high. They don't have an average.
Starting point is 00:14:50 If you look at DC and whether you agree with which ones you think are A's and which ones you think are Fs, you inherently think some are like tens and some are twos because there are Snyder fans and there are DC fans and there are some that are both but rarely do they agree which one is their best that's why ranking these movies
Starting point is 00:15:05 because it's so vitrolic. But there is nowhere to put flash, which is that's the fascinating thing to me is it's like, I had more of a good time watching this than most DC films. I was more joyous. So that inherently is going to be high, but it is a movie that doesn't have scenes that end
Starting point is 00:15:19 because there's a four-hour movie out there. Well, we, okay, all right, so sweet. I want to make sure, because I feel like this is my fault, I totally kicked this off with negatives. I was trying to bring it back. I really was like trying to. I don't want to. There's so much right.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I don't want to, yeah, there is a lot that I think does click. And so, yeah, but John, I mean, again, I mean, what other. Guys, I've seen that we've got so many super chats that I do want to get to those. Thank you. Really do appreciate it a lot. Obviously, they, like, live stream playbacks don't ever really have, like, good CPMs. So, you know, the super chats really do help out with the channel. A clicks per minute?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Cost per meal. It's just, yeah, it's what the ad revenue is on a playback. So, yeah, no, they really do help out a lot. So thank you guys. And also created some fun audios for the ones who are 10. dollar super chats $15.10 and up. $15 and up and $25 and up. Great. I got some fun audios for you guys. You're going to like it. John, name some positives to flow us and then we're going to get to some super chats. Yeah, because we've got to talk about some things in here. Dark Flash at the end. We got to talk about that Batman. George Clooney cameo.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Who shatty's doing Batman? We've got to talk about more of the cameos. And, but yeah, Johnny, what other positive? What are some positives that you felt? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think the best thing in the movie certainly is just the emotional core with Barry. And for me, with Andy Muscietti, one thing I've been waiting for and hoping for is to see more of just his voice and personality in some of these movies. And I thought that the stuff with Barry and Nora especially, and I could be projecting, but it feels like that was kind of informed by and ripped from his own life. And I thought that stuff was really sweet. And I love the sort of aspect of culture they added on top of that. I thought while the two berries, there are times when the effects are very noticeable. the 80% of the timeish
Starting point is 00:17:13 for me, you know, that it was working, it was really working and very impressive. And the acting. Like, he has to go on a hero's journey in two different directions, which I think is genius, because heroes, stories are always that, like, young Ian hero's journey. And you've got a young one going on the, just don't be annoying
Starting point is 00:17:29 arc. And then you've got the mature one going on, like, how do I become a hero and accept the fact that I have to let my mom die? I have to effectively kill my mother in order to save the world. So you've got just maturity and then true maturity. So it's like, maturity of life, maturity of hero, and they both cause each other.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's this really beautiful. And those are the moments that I think it goes higher for me because it's just thinking of the causality of that and the acting required to do, and the directing. You have to direct a whole movie with the young one, direct a whole movie with the mature one because they're not, you know, the haircut and all the changes.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And then also he has to act opposite, not him, because he doesn't exist. There's only one, Ezra. And that's such powerful acting to receive nothing from your counterpart, to be able to act off nothing and have that fully formed versions of you. so impressive for the acting. And then Sasha, like, there's so much love for her in here.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And that makes me happy. Because if you think about it, she's the only character that's new. We have so much love for Affleck and Keaton and Ezra's played this character before. And then she's taking on a role that people are like, rah, Cavill. Like, everyone is wanting Cavill, and she's able to come in and be this positive, like, Sasha. Yeah, because they don't give her a lot to do. Whenever she's there. Like, Sasha actually, I feel like, does a stupendous job, considering the fact that she is not given a lot to do.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And I know that's a default for a lot of people, but it's also really impressive what she's been able to pull off with that one, with the limited screen time that she has. Like 12 minutes to 15 minutes. Like she's not in it that much. Because, yeah, you could feel that brewing rage underneath her, but you also don't feel like she's villainy. I do have a question, though. A big question for the chat. Can you guys help me out here? One, they left the suit with her in her little prison.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Whatever. I'll accept that. Two, was she captured immediately upon arriving on Earth, and she's been there the entire time? Because I understand, I get it, what they're going for. It's a riff on when Superman is captured in the Flashpoint comic. But one thing I loved about that Superman portrayal is that he really feels like an alien entity that does not know humanity. And so you're kind of like, oh shit, should we have awoken this guy? A creature, a creature raised in captivity.
Starting point is 00:19:42 But in here, I'm like, and this seems like they're pretty acquainted with, like, they speak the language. I felt like she was protecting Cal that was coming, and then once he got there, she never was able to do it, so she wasn't hiding. That was the vibe I got,
Starting point is 00:19:55 and then she got captured. Right, that's the vibe I was. The other thing I was thinking was, let me conclude some things at the moment. Let me just go ahead and tell you how much. At all. As the screenwriter, Christina Hopps, what I realize, and this is a funny movie to talk about too, because I don't know what to attribute anything to in terms of the writer or the director or just studio, whatever. But, yeah, when it comes to that part of the story, like, God, I just completely lost my train of that.
Starting point is 00:20:27 What was the last thing you said? The Sasha kidnapped. Yeah, like with her, I had to wonder if it was related to. I really like the Michael Keaton explanation of time lines and the spaghetti thing. And that made me wonder, because Calell, you know, as we know him by this time with Zod, is like an adult man. And she seems like a teenager. So I was also like, when did you get here in relation to when they sent Calell? Because if you guys were here at the same time, you would either be older or they sent him later.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And so I couldn't tell if she was supposed to be older than the child or if she was going to, like, grow up parallel and watch out for him. so I kind of got confused as to like the whole context of how her character existed and then on top of that was like okay and then how does her like understanding of our speech work and all that stuff I definitely gathered that she was older and has been here a while because when he said like you know the child did not survive the procedure she she had seemed to be looking for him at least some so that implies she's been here and also been in prison because you can't look for him in prison so like though that's her being here a bit and I assume she was at least like 15 years old okay that's fair enough and yeah people are saying
Starting point is 00:21:34 There's reason behind my logic. She was older when she arrived. Hey, Bucky Barnes, thanks for being here. That's how it felt. And also, guys, if you can leave a like on the stream, that would be great. Yeah, but overall, I mean, I know we kicked off with some negatives what makes it sound like we really don't like the movie. Overall, I think the movie, though, it's saved a lot by fun and, and intention, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:54 like there's, I think at the end of the day, there is a fervent approach to the way Muscietti went about it, regardless if there's some editing choices that I'm like, it's really obvious you had to bear shit down, you know? I still think the passion is on display. I still think there's a lot of love and care put into it
Starting point is 00:22:15 despite whatever some people feel about the CGI, which of course does bother me from time to times. Weirdly, this is a strange movie for me with the CGI because I am one of those people who I'm like, oh no, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:22:31 not that bothered by it only with the Ezra faces when it bothered me when I could really see it was like an emotion but most of the time I could but okay like when it didn't work for me with the cameos it did nothing for me emotionally because they're not characters and I was just like yay they animated them in here that's cool
Starting point is 00:22:50 but they don't it's like looking at space jam new legacy people like they put on costumes but they're not a character they're not actually there you know so that did nothing to make a tantam tangible for me. So those did nothing for me, but really the speed force that a lot of people, which looks like, you know, yeah, they do look like PS3 faces.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. The chronosphere? At the same. At the same time, it didn't bother me because that actually felt intentional to me the way they look in the speed. Not when you're showing Nick Cage, who's supposed to be exactly from a multiverse and he's peeking in and watching the actions happen. Sure.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'm talking about like the different variations. different times it could be happening and stuff like that actually didn't bother me because something felt purposeful about that effect one thing would have when you get a brief chance to examine it too there's like a cool flip book layering that they yeah and they cascade down and up i i would have one thing would have made a lot of it better for me just one thing is if after the baby shower scene the baby that came out of the microwave was a real baby then it would have implied to me that in the speed force the perception berry has of these things is that that weird CGI versus the baby
Starting point is 00:24:02 stayed like Allie McBeal baby when they were not speedy and I was like oh that's just bad CGI baby but if the baby shower was like because he's so fast they look different that would have been a reasoning so then when it wasn't I was like oh that's just bad baby yeah I mean they
Starting point is 00:24:17 I guess you don't want to put a real baby of any kind in any microwave real or fake because they cut to him holding a real baby but when he pulls it out you're like that you put that baby in a microwave yeah I'm still conflicted about the C CG faces, but, uh, yeah, like it is... Love the baby shower scene, other than the...
Starting point is 00:24:35 I feel like they probably... I like the baby shower scene. I thought it was so funny. So dark. The asses flying at the baby was so funny. And the first time I saw it, I was filled with a sense of cool. Because I like the Flash show. I mean, I liked what I saw originally.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I saw the first four seasons that I gave up. Substantial. But there were sequences even in the Flash show. I was like, that's really cool that they're doing this on TV. I wonder what they could do with a movie. And a lot of times, like when he first... Like, that first speed force run is immaculate to me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Like, even though it's sure looks cartoony, I still think it's awesome as hell. And I love that they can really capture the distance of him going from, oh, my God. Central City, Gotham, yeah. Star City's Arrow. Sorry, okay. Central City to Gotham and how they really capture that distance. And the baby shower moment was great. But, well, and it's a scene, when I realized, too, is that prologue is really cool because it's a scene within a scene,
Starting point is 00:25:29 within a scene and then it all wraps back around to the sandwich guy and like there's a lot of really fun and clever like dilated scenes like that scene within a scene within a scene yeah exception and neat which is fun and it's in the spirit of the flash and heirsey finally got to play she got to show up and provide exposition i was happy for kirstie to get to be iris west all right guys um we got some super chats i definitely want to catch up on they're coming in right Thank you guys. So what I wanted to ask you guys in the chat, the big hype going into this movie was Michael Keaton, more than anything else. Michael Keenan.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So can you guys spam in the chat for MWA? Nine out of ten. Nine out of ten. Just tell us it was a nine out of ten. Press nine. Out of ten, what would you say you thought of Michael Keedon's return? Ha ha. Batman.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Let's see what I did there, Coy. So good, dude. See what I did, Coy? Did he rise? Did he return? The whole dang thing, man. He'll play him forever. I liked Michael Keaton.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I thought he did a fine job. The second time it played a lot smoother to me meeting him because the first time with him, you know, I get you got the mystery of the buildup, like, oh, who's under that, all that hair? A stunt double. But the second time. A very young stunt double.
Starting point is 00:26:52 The second time I was able to dream. in his performance, because he's doing sort of a more subtle performance, and I appreciate because, you know, Barry's so big. People loved him. I do think there are aspects of, like, you could remove him, and not all the things would change necessarily, but I did like him, and I thought
Starting point is 00:27:08 he did a really nice job. Like, he showed up certainly for this movie. The writing of the time paradox was genius. I think that's, like, maybe the most succinct explanation I've ever seen a multiverse be explained, and I have craved spaghetti sense. I've actually bought spaghetti and have not yet cooked it, but I have spaghetti. But I love the retrocausal thing. It's genius.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Not only was the mom dying about tomato sauce and spaghetti was the family meal, but then spaghetti is the time travel. There's so much great spaghetti. Not since 8 Mile. I thought of spaghetti this much. I do love his Batman fight. As much as you're like, that's definitely not Michael Keenan. Because you see, like, what thing with the other Batman that we've gotten since, like, Christian Bale, you can fathom that might be Christian Bale underneath the suit. You can fathom that's Ben Affleck.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You can fathom that's Robert Pattinson. when Michael Keenan's kicking ass, you're like, that ain't Michael King. Especially fighting the giant when he's like hopping around. He gets to the ground, he's really tired. But it's still a really cool fight. Oh, it's a great sequence. It's a great.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's like the actual martial arts of it all was awesome. And it felt like it continued from 8 to 9 because he didn't have kryptonite. He didn't have any way to fight these things. So it was like, what if that Batman stopped fighting soon after we left him and then had to do this out of nowhere? Like the old tech worked. I would have loved to see Marlon Wayans.
Starting point is 00:28:17 At the same time. Yeah. That would have been a hell of a camera. Can you imagine Marlon Wayans? That would have been out. You guys don't know he was originally robin. And still gets residuals. Oh, my God, does he?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Marlon Wayans gets money for Batman. Good. As he deserved, he got cast. He's been my favorite Wayans brother for a long time. I met Billy D. Williams at a con and I didn't have him sign anything Lando because he's my two-face. So he's signed a two-face comic for me and it's one of my prize possessions. Absolutely it is. We're so close.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Well, yeah, guys. All righty. So let's kick this off. All right. We got Dakota Joe. With a 10. Let's hope this doesn't blow out anyone's eardrums. You let me know.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Run, Barry. Run to the Super Chats. Hey. We'll never know. We can't hear it. But you can. It's so weird. On our end, we can't hear it.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Did you hear it? And was it deafening. They all were right before we went live. I tried them multiple times. Let us know if it's too loud. Made me chuckle every time. I see this really quick. I'm excited
Starting point is 00:29:24 You can read his thing Well I do Okay Dakota Yeah Thanks John Sorry You said I can read it
Starting point is 00:29:34 Immediately walks He said I love this movie Seen Ben again Was a highlight And loved his opening scene Wish we had more time With Dark Flash
Starting point is 00:29:43 And Supergirl Was that Ezra It looked like Matthew Modine And me In some shots Yeah I liked I liked Ben
Starting point is 00:29:51 Affleck's action scene there are parts about when he's getting tossed around on the freeway that don't it didn't bother me as much the second time but at first time I'm like there's like no weight to the way he moves around here and he's like the second he gets off the bike
Starting point is 00:30:07 there's like no weight to the way he moves yeah Ben Affleck really raved about that Wonder Woman moment before like he said if I'm not mistaken that was the moment he figured out the moment he figured out to play Batman
Starting point is 00:30:22 and maybe it's the way it's cut together but I'm like I don't know this feels like real Justice League shit to me it feels like
Starting point is 00:30:30 when she leaves there was like a conversation between him and Barry that got like snipped out and then Barry's just like I gotta go get my sandwich buy it's Superman was in that scene
Starting point is 00:30:39 I think the opening was like a Justice League not just two of them I think it was everyone and then they had to cut around it and I don't like the bat suit honestly when he's standing
Starting point is 00:30:50 in the on the I'm not a fan of the way the bat suit looks. I wish they just kind of kept what they did with Zach Snyder's Justice League or BVS. Something that was like, I mean, you needed a kind of armored suit to explain how he's surviving, tumbling on the freeway.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Like, I understand that, but it wasn't a huge fan of look. I did like his Ben Affleck, you know, just him being Bruce Wayne scene. Loved his Bruce in this. Again, felt like that was probably a longer scene. But it does set up the idea of, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:31:21 these experiences is what made you and you can really see that the second you interact with young Barry who did not experience the trauma you know I also love that how that paralleled with what the difference in the bruce's would be because with with young Bruce Ben Affleck's older young Bruce we see him kind of addressing how he would interact with trying to save and how like he's just lonely and he's sad and he's broken and then we see a fully sad lonely Bruce but he actively wants to help as soon as he's like wait you did the thing I couldn't do. And I love that Ben Affleck's Bruce is just like kind of more broken because he doesn't
Starting point is 00:31:57 ever even get hope. He doesn't even get that S. Like he just stays like removed whereas Keaton's like, you know, you brought me back. This is the bringing full circle. What you were able to do is the thing I couldn't accomplish. Whereas Ben Affleck is a totally different take on that character. That I felt. But I did think that like the humor was cut by the edit.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And I do feel like Ben Affleck and Mochietti shot way more that is the stuff Ben Affleck. Definitely. Definitely. What did you think of Ben Affleck? I liked Ben Affleck. I liked his later scene with Barry most of his appearance. That was the scene where I was like, okay, I could tell he sort of figured that I thought of that thing he said,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and I didn't realize it was from the Wonder Woman scene. But yeah, I liked the opening with him a lot better the second time. The first time, it was sort of like, okay, like this feels very sort of impersonal in a way or something. There was something about the business's usual quality that he was doing it with that clicked way better, for me the second time because this movie does in some ways
Starting point is 00:32:52 remind me of watching a DC animated movie and that's one of the first thing that was exactly what we said yeah yeah and and Batman in some of those moments can be sort of like business as usual like just let me handle this Barry you know
Starting point is 00:33:05 but yeah I liked that opening scene a lot more the second time around and it kind of it captured that fun of like oh yeah the Justice League is around doing Justice League stuff yeah and and yeah and then and also too you commented about a dark flash which was something
Starting point is 00:33:21 that I you know as like predictable as it is I thought they could have made something like really fun and interesting out of that and something kind of rich out of that and it was a bummer not to be able to because too they just give him so many like mannerisms and he's like drooling everywhere and he's yeah there's just something interesting
Starting point is 00:33:37 about that and you're thinking about Matthew Modin what struck me about Ezra Miller in this is there's so many times where the effect you can kind of tell but what I realized is there are shots where they're not both in the same scene. It's just like a close-up on one Barry
Starting point is 00:33:53 and they'll have a totally CG face. And that's the part that I was like, what is why do we have like a Batman's mustache thing or Superman's mustache thing going on with Barry's face when there's nobody else in the shot even. It's like in the plane and stuff like that. Well, thank you, Dakota.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Is male Montoya? Oh, someone's like you're too picky. We either love everything or we're too picky. It's always the case, right? Shills, haters. We're both. We wish we got just one more Ben Affleck scene, but it's still, it's always nice to just see him. And I did like all his bike sequences a lot. We also saw him get to be Bruce Wayne getting out of an SUV at the premiere, and I was like, that's Bruce Wayne.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. Ismail Montoya. Hey, guys, not my favorite multiverse movie, but okay. I still understand how they jump to a different Earth without choosing its number. It's a good question. I'm sure Koi has a justification. So in the comic books, there's this actually really fun concept of Earth 1, Earth 2, all these things. And we have that idea
Starting point is 00:34:51 for years since the first crisis. The crisis in D.C. is kind of like a reboot of the whole system. So infinite crisis, crisis, and Earth, there's all these things. And one of them, the most iconic one is Supergirl dies. And they try to reset all continuities and they end up like renumbering the comics in our, in our continuity, like in our world, as a way to
Starting point is 00:35:07 mirror that. But what's fun is, every earth thinks it's Earth one. So there's this really good, like, running joke of like, yeah, how would you number them? It's not like we all call each other. So everyone thinks they're one, but everyone else labels them other ones. So there is no numbering system except for the one that that own universe labels because there's no communication between them so there's like maps and stuff where batman has like these things but
Starting point is 00:35:27 you don't like pick it in this case barry was thrown out of it and landed in a different chronal timeline because of his own choices but like that earth wouldn't be labeled anything except earth one to them just as our earth wouldn't be anything but earth one to us yeah see it's explained in the movie had an answer for you said i wouldn't have did right johnny Oh, Johnny's saying Cameos are knowing an actor in the film beforehand I only knew about I had only heard of like one or two rumors
Starting point is 00:35:59 But I didn't know half the things that were going to appear here I heard about I mean everything was kind of semi-ruined for me It was ruined for me Well I mean the Nick Cage one I heard a Superman cameo And then in my notification bells someone put Nicholas Cage
Starting point is 00:36:20 I was scrolling Instagram Damn it I managed to avoid that Until someone said Nicholas Cage I was watching one of those things where he breaks down his career And somebody asked him about Superman and he was like You know he said something about like I mean I would love to do I mean like it could happen Like not for very long but you never know
Starting point is 00:36:38 And I was like I bet he's in the flag I'm like that's a spoiler Nick Cage I was like he didn't say it at all but I was like You left that one little piece of openness I bet you have a camera me own this movie. So I knew the George Clooney because of other people in our space that like to ruin things. Well, the George Clooney one, I mean, they were, I think it was Grace Randolph who put out that she was hearing about people. And then, you know, like, they put out like several Batman.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And I was like, well, I don't think Christian Bale's going to do it. Not without Nolan. I feel like it would be George Clooney. And people, I don't know how many people thought it would be George Clooney as well. But to me, it just made the most sense based off of everything Christian Bail has said. I was like, the one who's more likely to have fun with this is going to be George Clooney. And that's the funniest one. It's like the best use of that show being comedic.
Starting point is 00:37:25 It does raise some questions. I thought the post-crediting had to answer those questions. How? So in the post-credit scene? Put an answer at all. Okay, we'll get to it. Hold that thought. Get some beers.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Put a pin in. Hold that thought because Saint is saying, Coy reminds me as Sean Chandler half the time. Do the point? Sean Chandler. Which way does he? Oh, he does the crossover point. I just met him at Megacom. That guy's delightful.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah. Shot Jamlin. I like that guy. To me, Christian Unpronounceable is saying, thank you so much. Yeah, I think Flashpoint Paradox is still the best one. It's also exactly like the comic. They use the storyboards that are comics. And it managed to be a full-length feature film.
Starting point is 00:38:06 It's amazing. Christian Unpronounceable, thank you so much. Christian, to me, though, want to get nuts lied, felt very shoehorned in. It doesn't make any sense. He says it as Bruce Wayne to the Joker, which makes sense because he's dealing with that moment, and he's literally doing a commentary on him being nuts. Why would Batman, it's not a catchphrase Batman has? Why would later, 40 years later, is like, remember that thing?
Starting point is 00:38:31 I said under duress when Joker kidnapped, I'm going, I'm going, it doesn't make sense. Hated it. I mean, it's... I didn't love that line. I don't mind it. Pure nostalgia. It didn't make sense. Why would he say it?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Why would he quote him? Who quotes himself except for I'm Batman? I mean, what was the point of him going, yeah, I'm Batman? To me, that made less sense. That's what I'm like, we, we learned already that he's Batman. Because the girl earlier shows on Batman, because that's what Batman says. Because Young Barry doesn't realize still. Young Barry, no, when they're eating the spaghetti, he says, wait, you're Batman?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Love that scene. But he's still, like, surprised. They're in the Batcave for a long time. The thing that got me about the Want to Get Nuts line, the thing, it wasn't actually the line itself. It's his following line where he's, like, over there at the controls and he's like, you know, For the record, I can't remember what the line is. But he's like, for the record, I think this is insane. And I'm like, you were just down a minute ago.
Starting point is 00:39:24 You literally were like, let's get in us. Yeah. Which is it, Keaton? Yeah, I thought. You're not doing this against your will. I thought in the trailers, that's when the line was going to be used. I didn't think that actually used it was to be, when it was to get him hit with some lightning. I thought it was a trailer moment.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I didn't think it would be in the movie. You know, it was funny? I was looking at our trailer reaction. And we caught the footage where Supergirl was carrying flash. to the sky. Yeah. And you were, you were sad,
Starting point is 00:39:52 like, I wonder if he's taking her up there to, taking him up there to get to get shot because he needs more lightning. Yeah. And I was,
Starting point is 00:39:57 I was just like laughing about that. And then it happened in the film. Like, oh, that's exactly what happened. Look at the bell. He does have to shock him
Starting point is 00:40:06 to get his powers back. And Supergirl has to take him up there. And it was, I mean, I loved that moment because it was so emotionally cathartic, but if we'd had one more Sasha Kaye scene,
Starting point is 00:40:14 it would have been, like, there's just so much that could be. I want a three-hour cut between the two and the four. Mushietti cut. Moushietti cut. Cameron Dane Scott, he's got two, five dollars so.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Run, Barry. Run to the Super Trots. Cameron Dane Scott. Thank you for the endless hours of content. I'm going through a little canon event right now. My dog passed away last week. That fucking sucks. Sorry, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I'm sorry. John has lost a couple of dogs. Uh, we lost her family dog a few months ago. That was hard. Sorry. That was extremely hard. Yeah. Uh, it was there in the room when it happened.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh. And have you lost, I have. My childhood dog passed when my third year in L.A., so I was like freshly away from home. So it was really hard to, like, not be there. And I had gone to visit her like six months before, so that was kind of nice. But I, like, that dog slept in my bed with me throughout, like, from five to 20.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So. It's hard, man. Uh, I broke it with my fiancee of six years. Ooh. Well, it's better that happens before you get married. Yeah, sure. It's not easy. Better it happens before marriage.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Every stance. Wish we could give you a big old bear hug, all the three of us. Continues to say, not every problem has a solution. You have no idea how great it has been to sit back and listen to you guys during these dark times. Thanks, much love. Well, thank you, Cameron, Day, and Scott for being here. And I hope things get better for you. It's not easy, but you can survive the turbulent times.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It makes you a stronger person in the United States. then. I love that people have that kind of like catchphrase terminology for them to get through these dark moments. I think the beauty of this movie is that not everything has a solution. I think one of the big, like, there's thousands of beautiful things about Spider-Verse, but I do love the message of like trauma
Starting point is 00:42:01 does change you, and it can be for the better. I feel like Barry doesn't fully learn that lesson. Really? Because he moves to camera. I'm like, dude, he moves the cans. He moves the cans to get him to look up, and he's still messing with time. Which is why there's George. He literally,
Starting point is 00:42:17 He came back. But he's only affecting his present. But he's still... But with the whole retro causal thing, if you change... He still goes to a different timeline because George... That proved that, like, just the can change something. Let's talk about this George thing. George proves that.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah, George proves he said not back home. I thought George Clooney was the same person as... Okay, let me try to understand this. I don't think this Michael Keaton is the continuation of the Tim Burton one. I feel like this is an alt universe of that happens to have the, the imagery of the Tim Burton one. Yeah, variants can look at life. I don't feel, yeah, that's what I think's happening. So are they implying that like Batman Forever and Batman and Robin are not the continuations of the Michael Keenan films?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Because I thought that's what we were doing with George Clooney with, you know, in Batman and Robin. so do you get what I'm getting at? I have always thought that with this explanation of time, the actor that plays Alfred, Michael Go, being all four of the movie's first Alfreds, imply that Alfred is one of those crossover points in the spaghetti, that they are different universes. So Batman 1 and 2 is one universe, Kilmer's another. Because they do put an emphasis on the Alfred. On the Alfred. And then in the Kilmer one, they do reference an event that had happened before in Michael, in Michael Keaton's. But I think that was one of those incidents that happens in every universe.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I think there's two movies, one in one movie, and then this is another, is my take. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Batman should shave. It's really easy to identify what Batman is when he's got a big white movie. That's true. Santa Man.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But can you imagine that goatee sticking out of the cowl? It would be beautiful. I wish we had. Burton versus Snyder's a lot of them. But I honestly feel like George Clooney would be a fine Batman. If they give him a second shot, I'd be down. Yeah, because now is the time. But I would be so down for it.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I would, like, an Adam Westy one? Like, a nice fun, like, zoinks. I would even be down for him to return in a, from Dust Till Dom, one of those, like, old man, Seth Gecko's kind of sequels. I think that would be cool. Batman Beyond George Clooney. That would be great. Him behind the chair, just like, oceans are leavening in his way through stuff. I'd love that, charming voice.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Well, I bet he could have his Ben Affleck moment of, like, this is what taught me really how to play Bruce. I would love that. Saint. Saint is saying. I think I like Zod Moore and Manistiel. Oh, absolutely. He doesn't feel the same here. In fact, I had to question a tiny bit where he was having certain moments that came in so late into the film.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And I was like, wait, I thought Michael Shannon returned. Because are they just repurposing him? Because he looks fake. That's a freaking mask, man. It makes him look all plastic. It was when he was having his interaction with Kara. I was like, oh, yeah, no, this is a man of steel. It's definitely all new.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Look, he's talking. These are new words. I must be. I have to question it. That's so funny. They're like, oh, no, this is really him. He showed up. Well, I definitely felt like he wanted more out of the role because he's talked very openly about not being happy with, like, what he got.
Starting point is 00:45:25 But I also think that, like, when you put this many things in a movie and it's not for hours. Why didn't he follow Supergirls? See, that drove me crazy. Stuff like that didn't hit my noggin until the second viewing were these, like, little things. After a while, like, little things on the, here's what happened. First viewing, little things moved past. I'm having fun. second viewing these little things are really stacking up and to the point where I'm like now I'm just seeing a big list
Starting point is 00:45:51 so that's kind of what happened for me you know um but every line of us like I just I have fun and I'm like watching also the way the visuals translate on an IMAX format is gorgeous it's really gorgeous it's kind of crazy how some movies now like have this necessitation to see on IMAX and I'm like I think there's a there's got to be a little bit of a line with cinema now where not every movie like we saw Spider-Verce on a regular screen yeah and it was stunning still gorgeous yeah that movie is too pretty it's better on iMacs but it didn't need iMacs
Starting point is 00:46:24 right you know but there's a lot of movies now we're like well you need I should probably like you know you have to see this on I like Oppenheimer yeah so the effects hold up on IMAX oh for sure yeah because I've seen because I've seen movies where IMAX actually kind of hurts the effects like like Quantimania was way better on a less good screen and I saw
Starting point is 00:46:42 it last night for this movie on a less good screen and had like a slightly better time with that stuff. That's funny. Wait, shent. We got ourselves. Whoa. Wait. Wait, everyone.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Wait for it. Wait for it. I love his name. Oh. Oh. Oh, but once we get to a 15, you'll hear the other one. I love the name. I don't remember what my audio was that I created for this.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Holy shit. That super chat's huge. We can hear the big one. Did you guys hear it? I hope we all did. That was great. Great sound bite. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Excellent work. I liked it. We have no response. 30 seconds always. It's going to catch you out. If you weren't able to hear it. It played. All righty.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Verify, damn it, people. Someone. Okay. There's some laughs. The antagonist of the film is time and consequences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I think thematically that works. At the same time, I think it kind of loses a tad bit of a tad bit of of its emotional heft and focus on that. It gets a little muddied in there because they're like rescue, you know, we got to find Batman, we got to rescue Supergirl, then we got to fight Zod. So that is the real antagonist. That's why I think the Speed Force finale, despite the fact that I didn't really feel like this multiverse collision was something they were really setting up, but I feel like we've
Starting point is 00:48:09 seen so many multiverse things that you're like, yeah. I got to collide That's what happens in these things do. I still really felt the drama of that and the gravitas of that, especially when you see that young Barry, who is more ego-to- what I thought they did really well
Starting point is 00:48:27 with, and I feel like this is where I kind of debate with some people, is young Barry, you know, he just becomes like so stern fast in the way like, we got to do this, we got to power, like, because Flash did not have, our Flash did not, have a mentor he did not have a guy to this and this young barry who's already just so much more
Starting point is 00:48:47 privileged and spoiled and arrogant and amnoxious and is getting these powers and is getting a quick handle on them especially because he has the fact that he gets mentored and he just gets the best of it he's like i just got no no no i can't deal with this i don't know how to process i've got to go we got to go we got to fix this we got fix it so i actually really like that whole speed force scene where he is just going back in time constantly and and he he's not learning his lesson one more time i can can fix this so much to the point that he has to see what he becomes in order to stop it yeah i really appreciate that it's a man versus self story at its core and consequences are like you said the true crux of what our reality is our reality like our reality yeah and i really appreciate that we
Starting point is 00:49:29 have young berry who like you said is more entitled who who is a little bit more like i can do whatever i want i don't have this loss and we have our berry the regular one that lost everything having to mature but what i really love about that third berry is Not only did he feel like he could do anything because he didn't have that realization, but the person that he started as matured because of Arbery, so therefore when he gets killed by himself, that maturation hadn't and wouldn't have occurred, causing that paradox that negates everything.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And I think that's a really beautiful message of almost your Uncle Ben scenario. So he had to have a mentor in some way, whether that's lost, whether that's a canon event, whether that's a mentor. But he had to have that thing in order to become the hero that he was meant to become. and that negates him becoming a villain. I think that's a really beautiful message of, these are three ways your life can go, and one thing can change everything.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And that story is genius. It just had a lot of stuff around it. Yeah. So as we continue to read this off, John, you want to read up the rest of that? Yeah, Zod, Dark Flash, the Russians, they're there for action and tension, but this movie doesn't work that way while I watched it.
Starting point is 00:50:33 It was a bit more personal, surprisingly, with all the added cast members. Yeah, I, like, there are so many ways to look at this, And I do think that, yeah, you're right. It's like, it's not necessarily about these figures so much as it is about what kind of emotional conflicts or how they exacerbate these entire mess that, you know, Barry has created here. But, yeah, it's like it's a bunch of big stakes that are also, like, really referential. And I think there just pulls your attention around sort of, because there are also just like a lot of really great small moments within that time and consequences theme. And I love to, like, you even get that little flourish of Eric Stoltz, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And, like, I love that you have Barry looking at himself and he like snaps at himself and then also has that realization of, like, I've talked to people in life who have like met younger people and then gone, oh, I can see myself now. And I can see what people have been saying to me. And now this all hits so much harder. And I love that they included that in this. I also feel like it's a commentary on how the fans reacted to Ezra's Flash. Like, the first movie, he's a lot. And I feel like having him mature was a great reaction to the audience wanting Barry Ellen to... This Barry is a step closer to the Barry Allen of the comics.
Starting point is 00:51:46 He's still not there, but it's closer. Yeah. You mean the Barry that the Barry that we follow. Mature Barry is closer to comic Barry than original Barry. And I like that that's all on screen. Yeah, I think when the movie is... I'm a much bigger fan of everything outside of... Even when the scene when he's discovered that there's no meta-humans,
Starting point is 00:52:07 and stuff. I find that really tense. And while I think Batman's a lot of fun in this movie, Michael Keenan's Batman, and I really liked Sasha Kai's presence in here. And I even, I like the final fight battle. The needle drop was so good. A lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Light stripes, Rackintors. Rackintors. You're such a good needlegras. They thanked Jack, so I think he gave them stems to just completely remix the song. That final fight gets a lot of crap I've noticed. But I think that, I think that, you know like zod killing them off was great i like batman's action scenes does he get like the
Starting point is 00:52:42 i don't know if his death is like super impactful but whatever that still hit enough for me in that moment that had leg makes a superman and i like the um i like when him and bear the two berries are working together i think that that's really fun at that point i'm already been seeing past so much whatever like there's a lot of complaints about the cg i and i get it like it's not it's not the greatest. For some reason, I'm able to really look past it. And so, and in that final fight, I was definitely able to really look past it. I like the final fight a lot more.
Starting point is 00:53:14 The second time, the first time that was when my brain started to liquefy. And the second time, I was like, this is actually really cool. But what I'm trying to say is that my favorite portions of this movie were everything with the actual story of the emotional core of what Barry is going through, which this movie is really focused on in the first 20 to 30, like before, back. Batman, pretty much like before Batman, you kind of lose sight of that once Batman's there. And then when everyone starts dying is when they really starts bringing it back around to that. Like they talk a little bit here, like the whole thing with the monkey.
Starting point is 00:53:47 They have that scene there with the two berries with the monkey. And then, but when it's really focused on that is when this movie really sings. So it's like good emotional court and then their stuff is like, fun candy. Yeah, totally, totally. I'll just say a quick thing about the ending. I think that it did a really beautiful third act, DC ending like those the DC movies have that type of ending that is the big superhero ending but three things I think it really enhanced on that was one it was like an artist jam page which is like when
Starting point is 00:54:14 different artists like you know Greg Cpulo and jim Lee are painting the same page or penciling and you see the different styles it felt like Burton meets muscietti's flash meets zach Snyder's universe and I really love that the three directing styles yeah bushietti was able to do like a jazz piece with the third act and then it also uh all the orange and blue that is zach Snyder they gave it a reason with canon. They gave blue and orange the power sets for Flash. They were able to use those colors in a way that actually made sense instead of just visually aesthetically. And I like that in the Zach Snyder world, Batman is so paranoid of the Croptonians because they feel like they're really invaders. I love that Batman gets killed by a Croptonian. I thought
Starting point is 00:54:49 that was genius. So like those three things really sung from me. That's a great point. That highlights it even more. Yeah. I feel like nobody's talking about that. You get killed by Croptonians. So I do want to point this out in the chat really, really quick. Just spent like 30 seconds on it. I won Pierce O'3. You noticed it on the second viewing. The homeless guy who, when Young Barry's first getting his powers, and he still was a pizza or hot dog? He still was a pizza.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It was a pizza from a machete. Emucietti has the hot dog. So he takes the pizza from the guy. And then, because at the premiere. Because we talked to him at the premiere. And we were like, why is he here? He was in the thank you. He was in the credits.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I was like, why is he in the thank you? Well, yeah. I mean, he's in the movie Mama, which and Emushietti directed. Well, and Bill Scarsgard was there. and so was a... Yeah. Like a bunch of the Mocietti folk.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I saw Bill Scarsgar. I was like, Oh, shit, Bill Scarsgar. I didn't recognize... I was walking out of the theater. I had to thank Jessica Chastain for her work on Molly's game because it's so good.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And I was like, oh, right. They're friends. But, like, it was cool to see all the friends to see all the friends he made with that one movie. Mama.
Starting point is 00:55:48 He's so talented. Yeah. Mushieti's so good. Mama's a really good movie, too. Yeah, that's what I mean, I think that, like, actors know when they find a good director and I love seeing that support.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, whatever the response to this movie overall and the financials and whatnot, I'm excited for more Andy Muscietti joints still. That man, Brave and Bold. Yeah, which we're talking about right now. Good transition, John. Satvik Mahanti is saying, what's your take on Mushyetti for Brave and the Bold? I think he won't have any issues with the action.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I really feel like with Mushietti, he's had this interesting transition where he went from, you know, like became more popular with Mama. really popular with it so we kind of knew him as the horror guy yeah and he's on Flash which has like almost no horror and then and then seeing him at like the premiere
Starting point is 00:56:42 and seeing how he interacts with people he's a really silly guy he's a very very goofy guy and it's the way he just talks about things and people like he he's very playful and then some of the earmarks and sensibility choices
Starting point is 00:56:57 of It Chapter 2 that kind of rub people myself included the wrong way. I'm like, oh, this feels like Muscietti's personality. It started making more sense. Yeah, yeah. It started making a lot more sense to me. I was like watching him interact. Like, oh, some of those It Chapter 2 choices suddenly like make a lot more sense to me. He's also truly one of us.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And I don't feel like that gets talked about enough. I feel like we talk about James Gunn being a comic nerd. We talk about certain people loving these characters. Mushiating and I talked about a bunch of comics at the premiere after party. We literally broke down different arcs and things, and I'm not going to tell you which ones, because I don't know what that affects, but it was really beautiful to know that he loves certain arcs that I love, and I was able to give him a couple recommendations, so I'm really hoping that, like, the way he is passionate about all this now, I think that's forever.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I think that him and James Gunn are working together for the passion of it, and I think that his cheekiness will suit the Damien Wayne Bruce Wayne, because Damien Wayne, like, John and I have fallen in love with this take on Damien, me and Wayne in the animated movies because it allows Bruce to not be so stoic. It allows a little bit of that, that fun that Mochieti is. So I think him directing a family man, Bruce, and I think him getting to be that playful guy that he is. Like, we literally sent Greg a video like one in the morning because Andy is a guy that
Starting point is 00:58:11 like likes to interact with fans to the scale of like, let's be joyous about loving Batman at one in the morning. That's like so unique in the film space. You make a movie and you're like, okay, we're done. He's like, let's talk about it all night. And I love that man. I feel like Raven Bowl will be more focused. It's just Batman and David Williams, so it's going to be more focused.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And I feel like James Gunn is really good at finding what a person's strengths are and letting them hone in on that. He got to get his feet wet with the flash. I think that he'll probably do a better job with Brave and Bolt. So to me, I'm excited for it because no matter what, family man, Bruce. I'm actually really excited for him to take on the Brave and the Bold, just because it's really quick. I know I describe this as like being better looking at as a comedy up top, but I really do appreciate, like, the fun comic book, you know, imaginative side of this flash movie. And I do feel like with Mooshieti, we can get a Batman movie that is both comic book kind of fun in an appropriate way,
Starting point is 00:59:10 but that we'll also pull some of those horror aesthetics and some of those darker aesthetics. Like, I think it'll be a really nice kind of blend of what he's clearly capable of in a big blockbuster superhero space, but also with the, you know, dark stuff. I agree more. All right. Let's see here. Tucker Wood. Yes. Tucker Wood.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Tuck it in. Let's do this, Tucker Wood. Barry. Run to the Super Chats. Yeah. We can hear it. Yeah, buddy. We got there eventually.
Starting point is 00:59:41 We got there. It was a way I could like. I'll figure out of it. Tucker Wood. If there's a different Batman Clooney at the end, wouldn't I mean this is also a separate universe and there should be another Barry as well? And if so, where was he? Why was he out of court?
Starting point is 00:59:54 It's spaghetti. That's how they've explained. Because Barry always left and always came back. But someone's theorizing, a lot of theories are going that he actually landed in a completely different universe this time with Batman, with this George Clooney one. The more I think about how this orb representation of the universes is the more questions I have, although I do quite enjoy it. But it does seem, I guess, almost like every kind of likeness that is one particular person is sort of confined. to a particular orb. So, yeah, I'm a little confused as to the mechanics,
Starting point is 01:00:32 but it felt like he at least created another alternate timeline that just has all the same events up until right now. Like Koi explained it pretty well earlier. Yeah. Also, how does memory work in this thing? Because I feel like, you know, you would also remember if he was always Clooney all of a sudden. So you'd have your timeline's memories because when you change space time,
Starting point is 01:00:52 you're only changing the space you're in, not the time you're in. So your memories would still be linear, you've lived that time, you've only changed space. So your memories would not suddenly like incept yourself, because otherwise that would be changing both space and time, which isn't how they explain the chronal effect. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Beautiful. The movie answers questions, Greg. Yeah. Yeah, Greg. No, like, three, two. No, I'm just earlier you were like, this is this. This is this. Oh, but those times you were. No, I'm certainly making it up. And this time I might have been too. I'm making fun of myself because I think I'm just
Starting point is 01:01:24 making things up. I just think those were dot dot dot. All right, let's go here. He's got two. Run, Barry. Run to the Super Chats. This is the $10? John's got a good Barry run. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:01:39 You've been practicing. Yeah. I like it. It's graceful. That's how he dances, too. Yeah. Thought the movie was mostly good. Love the stuff to do with Barry and his mom.
Starting point is 01:01:52 One of my biggest scraps was the CG I throughout the entire film, especially the VFX. used to have two berries and then we got to find your second one he said two really quick we're not skipping anyone still worry three um is the second one yeah okay um my other problem oh my god wait he did if he did three whoa whoa we got an upgrade this is for the 15s and up you want to get nuts let's get nothing with super jets Is it good, Greg? This is it good?
Starting point is 01:02:25 Beautiful. So, CGI cameos. Instead of John Wesley ship or Grant Guston, I think Grant Guston would have hit harder than anything else. We get a generic J. Garrick and multiple Batman and Superman who are, that's what I mean. They're just kind of, I agree with you. That really doesn't do any.
Starting point is 01:02:45 The Nick Cage one, I think in honor of John, especially like with John Schnapp and all that. Yeah, there's a lot of reasons to love that. and then that never came to fruition. So to me, I like that more than even the Christopher Reeves one or the Adam West appearance because that didn't actually come to life. So it's cool to see that happen. It is neat. What I like about the effect similar to like what happens with George Clooney and even Supergirl,
Starting point is 01:03:11 who played her in the Christopher Reeves universe. Hells later? Yeah. It's like both are hated. Both are hated. But there's something about seeing them recognize where you're like, yes we can be chill about this now other iterations she was also at the premiere and that was cool to see her get her
Starting point is 01:03:28 flowers like yeah she got introduced with the cast it's like it's like a smaller it's like a smaller it's like a smaller way of how like Andrew Garfield must have felt with like oh people did like my spider thanks guys you know and so yeah and then we've got to find hold on I've got a thing on that as well okay here it is yeah yeah okay oh let me just pull it up here. And then the Spider-Verse movies had more love for Spider-Man than this movie had
Starting point is 01:03:56 for The Flash as a character. Well, it does seem kind of like... Well, the thing is, the Spider-Verse movies have the ability of so much Spider-Man to riff on everything we know about Spider-Man, where here this is, the Flash is just not as well-known. This did feel like it had love for the Flash, but yeah, it is spreading the love around for other characters. I do, I am curious as to what people think, because you have, like, Christopher Reeve which people seem pretty excited about but you have Christopher Reeve which is one thing but you also have George Reeves who has like a
Starting point is 01:04:30 difficult history with the character dude yeah when I saw that like I don't know if people realized but George Reeve like might have killed himself because of the character to see him come back to play the character felt like digging up a grave twice but I thought the Nicholas Cage one was shameless name drop Kevin Smith was at the premiere and I had known about that moment and when we were talking to Kevin before
Starting point is 01:04:51 the movie. He's like, what did you think? Oh, my God, because he knows how much I was excited for this. And he was like, what do you think? I'll think. And like, the amount of willpower it took not to tell that man that his moment that has caused so many ramifications. Like, John Peters is now known as the spider guy. And also, like, they even put it in that PTA movie where Bradley Cooper plays him. And one of Kevin Smith's quotes about John Peters is something Bradley Cooper says. Like, so Kevin Smith has caused these ripples throughout time and space. So to see that spider, I feel like, honestly, that was Mooshieti not only giving a great Easter egg in the movie
Starting point is 01:05:23 but it felt like an industry moment it felt like the Eric Stoltz joke was like if you guys know time travel jokes and it felt like the spider joke was like if you're a deep cut nerd there were so many moments that felt like layers of Easter egg that I really liked the conceptual delivery more than the actual visual
Starting point is 01:05:39 because I'm with Greg where if it looks like this uncanny valley I don't connect to it emotionally but I got to go like oh a turduckin of references that's delightful so I agree with you with what you're saying but I think me personally i got more out of it because of my connection to kevin and the industry and john obviously yeah why didn't the supermen try to do anything why were they just watching stuff
Starting point is 01:05:58 happen and why was there only one and why was there only one did he take his face slash yeah james stevens hey james hey just joined i know this isn't related to the flash enjoyed the film and daddy cluny curious if you guys were considered reacting a succession i think that's the show i'm just going to watch in my own time ever seen it i've heard heard great things. I've heard it's amazing. Did it just end? It just ended. Definitely not going to react to it. I appreciate the
Starting point is 01:06:28 the intrigue on that. Thank you so much. Joe Coughlin. Speaking of how many Saturdays, I was going to remind Eric Stoltz about the gink you lost. That's hilarious. That is true. Poor Eric Stel. Freaking loser! Marty McFey. Wait, is he alive? I think so. Yeah, loser.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Eric Stolt, you watched this. I'm joking. Marty McThye, boy. Freaking. Who lost the Wolverine? Oh, Russell Crow No, no, no, no. The guy who's in M.I. Dougray Scott.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Oh, Dick Ross Scott. Bring a loser? Yeah. What do you do it now? That bister, down. Don't worry. They'll bring him back for Dead Reckoning Part 2.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Do you know that we used to Russell Crow passed and recommended to you, Jackman? It's my favorite Hollywood thing. It's like literally top five like most ridiculous. Russell Crow had just done Gladiator. When you think about the movie Gladiator, do you think wolves mean either?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Apparently his like a spirit animal or whatever the more appropriate title for that thing is now in culture, is a wolf, and they have like a scene with a wolf, and Russell Crow had just done gladiator, which had a wolf in it. So he thought Wolverines were wolves, and he's like, I don't want to be known as the wolf guy. I'm not going to play Wolverine. Similar reason why he passed on Aragorn. It was because he just a gladiator. He didn't want to be typecast in that. Now he's doing the Pope's Exorcist. I was going to say that Aisha, Kevin Smith is the nexus being of our universe. He really is. He's Stanley and Marats and Stanley and
Starting point is 01:07:44 Captain Marvel means all the USQ movies are canon in Marvel. Joe Coughlin. 35% of the movie. I was at a solid 6 out of 10. Then we got Nick Cage, Superman, bumped it up to a solid 9. That's what happens. What do you get? And you get a little cameo in there. Hit the thing. Oh, my God. You're right. Okay. What are we at? We got a tenor. We got a tenor. Run. To the Super chats. Then we got Nick Cage, Superman. Also thoughts on who Batman can be a Batman and the brave and the bold to keep up the great work. Nicholas Cage. God, who would... I think Clooney would be a good Batman
Starting point is 01:08:24 Beyond one. I think it would confuse people, though. 100%. People would think it's the fucking like, oh, this is good for Batman or Robin or Rob. I think it would really confuse. And let's face it, Dice is having a really hard time at the box, obviously. They need a clean sleep.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Blue Beatles's going to save it. So that... I don't know. I have really... I mean, look, I'm as big a fan of... Polt McCallony. Big fan of the Jensen Ackles' choice. I'm a big fan of the Jensen Ackles choice.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I think that would be really awesome casting, honestly. I think he could pull it off really well. I like Jensen Ackles. I like Milo Ventimilia. I like, I like Jakey Jakes. It's unlikely, but I think Jake Gyllenhaal would crush Bruce Wayne and a paternal Batman and be dark and brooding. Jake Busey.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yes. Buse Wayne. The only problem is you'd recognize him as soon as he smiles. Who's Bruce Wayne? I don't know. That creep. He'd be a good joker, though. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Oh, my God. Yeah. But yeah, those are my big three. Nice, good picks. All righty, here we go. Hold on one second, guys. It's got to get readdiced. Also, George Clooney's not going to be
Starting point is 01:09:24 the Batman and the Bremen the Bold because that ending implies that he's in another universe, therefore allowing the cake and eat it to of either bringing Ezra back or not. So that is a separate universe by the canon of the movie itself. That's not saying that that's guns. Ezra's coming back.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Hold on guys. We're so far on the stream. You're just going to watch me refresh it. Just checking things to make sure we are staying on track today. And bam, pow bang. is not Matt Reeves Batman because that's staying
Starting point is 01:09:47 an else world along with Joker because that's going to stay a more serious tone it wouldn't work if that interacted with the Greater Justice League movies. I found myself just thinking
Starting point is 01:09:53 about the Batman. I can't wait for the Batman. Today? Yeah, I just woke up like man, the Batman. I couldn't stop thinking about specifically the Batman. I've been making a video series
Starting point is 01:10:04 on TikTok and YouTube of like if you liked this, read this and they're doing well but the Batman one was my most fun because I think the tone of Matt Reeves is the closest to the comics I like of Batman. So I really am excited
Starting point is 01:10:13 for the way they're keeping them separate. Let's see here. Chris Pine is Batman. You make him funny. Yeah. I like Chris. He's so charming, Dungeons and Dragons. I can kind of see.
Starting point is 01:10:24 If he wasn't so high profile, I can kind of see it. Coy does not keep up with anything. You have like all these movies and I try to keep up. We do so many less videos. Mobia should have showed up. That would have been awesome. All righty. We got some stream labs.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Stream labs are awesome. They take less fees from that sound effect. And considering that we just had Super Mario blocked again. Again, by Universal. The same video. No re-edits. The same video. It's like, that's the most third.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Third times of charm. He's like, okay, sure. Why not? They're struggling all of a sudden. It's weird when you appeal something and then they go, all right, it's fine. And then go, you know what? We changed their mind. On appeal.
Starting point is 01:11:02 We're going to block you again. We just put FastX out on On Demand. We need to recoup this stuff. Let's see here. Jaden Stevens. Hey guys. O.P. Blake, action. Nope, wrong one.
Starting point is 01:11:16 You're right, John. My bad. I mean, not to not honor, you know, a previous stream. I messed up. O.P. Blake, with the 10. Run, Barry. Run to the Super chats. The death of Barry's mom seemed targeted,
Starting point is 01:11:31 and it seemed like they had planned on killing her already. It was a government conspiracy to create the flash. So I don't get why his dad staying home actually changed whether or not she died. Maybe not that same day, but I feel like she would have died regardless. There's a deleted scene confirmed where Ron Livingston beats the shit out of reverse flash. And why would he, what would be the motive in killing his wife? So reverse flash in the comics is talking about the dad. Why was the dad convicted?
Starting point is 01:11:59 I don't feel like they did enough justification for why the dad was convicted. I mean, like he was the only one on the scene. No, man. It's always the husband. And no one else lives in their neighborhood? Any motive? CSI, man. It's always the husband.
Starting point is 01:12:11 That's why. Ice tea comes in. He's like, sucker. That's it. He went to, he was mad because he had to go get a can of tomatoes. I hate her. And he showed back up and just stabbed her with a can. Al Dante!
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah. But yeah, no, I mean, we know the reverse flash. He wanted to create flash. And that's why with Barry's dad there, it wouldn't have worked because I think, I've always seen it as the mom dying is doubly bad because then the dad's sitting in prison makes it a longer pain. Like if the dad dies too, they're gone. Whereas, like, dad's in jail and then mom's dead, that's a perpetual. So I think what the mom has to be alone. They must have cut out a thing about him discovering that it was like a reverse flower or didn't know it was reverse fly.
Starting point is 01:12:55 The way the show did it too. You know, like, what is that little fuzzy yellow thing? So they must have, they must have cut that out because it made, it just really raises a question of like, this guy would have checked. He would have checked to see who killed his mom. He has the ability to just speed by. go, hey, that person. Right there. That person.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yeah. The mailman? Let's see here. Sammy Boy. Sammy Boy's got, let's see where we're at. Sammy's got, if you were going to read through them really quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Here we go. Coy, do your speed reading. Love how we get a soft origin story of Flash. We see how Barry would have probably acted using his powers for the first time. Also love the BVS and Flash have a grand perspective of the fight of Zod and Superman is their version in the Battle of New York. Okay. Well done. I did like seeing
Starting point is 01:13:46 Oh yeah Okay there's one thing I do like About the Man of Steel stuff It is seeing when Barry had his like Yeah Shitty suit Makeshift when he put together And then
Starting point is 01:13:54 I thought they were gonna bring that around again With with you know Saving I didn't know if it would be like Save the exact same dad or some shit But I thought they were gonna bring that around With saving someone That kid and his dad come back They just don't get correct
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah it's just like Oh different rubble so they're fine But I think that was to emphasize The point of how much It's going to bother Newberry when he can't save, when he can't save, you know, Batman and Supergirl. I think that was the purpose of that. But I still thought it would come around in a different way for Arbery. I also like the line, like, you just say, one, that's a Superman line.
Starting point is 01:14:30 So I like that Flash learned from Superman, because they have a lot of interactions in the Justice League. So there's, like, this classic, like, technically in the Justice League movie, it's better. It's Batman. Apologies. I meant Batman. There it is. But that's what I thought was a cool. It's a good line as bad as the movie is.
Starting point is 01:14:44 No. We cannot give credit to Joss Whedon for any singular thing. Not even astonishing X-Men. Also, somebody in the chat said Johnny Depp Batman, which I don't want, but would be fascinating. So Sanvoi had two here, right? Yeah, and then... Just do a quick Johnny Depp as Batman.
Starting point is 01:15:00 There's no time, John. Love it with this movie and the crisis event. Almost every property has been acknowledged and revisited. I heard people saw multiple endings on screenings before release. Were there any changes to yours? No, we saw the final version. We went to the Collider fan screening, and that was the first screening of the complete one, right?
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah. So we saw with the ending and with the post-credit scene. John Watts sitting in the back row. He had John Watts right behind us. Yeah. Yeah. I got the Primo. He saw the other multiverse movie he didn't make him.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I love that No Way Home is like Flashpoint and like John Watts was behind us. I was like, we're in the multiverse. He's like, make sure he did it better, did it better? Shuckier. John, read a fast speed read. As a DC fan, I got all. all the cameos, but I think if you're going to do this, why not give some love to Arrowverse?
Starting point is 01:15:46 Dark Knight, the Batman, things fresh in people's minds. Heck, the King of Cameos, Ryan Reynolds is Green Lantern would have been fun. Great point. They will acknowledge the Arrowverse in like 20 years. When it's not what people really, really want. When it's nostalgia, not present. And not when they're canceling and ending like all of the Aerovers.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Do you see what Stephen Amel said? What? They asked him if he'd come back. He's like, well, I see it right now. They need them more than they need us more than we need them. And I was like, Damn, Stephen Mouth, dude. Came out his arrow himself. I mean, he's got a, he loves his wrestling. He's got the wrestling attitude.
Starting point is 01:16:18 He does. Also, I hear he's a tough guy. I've heard some stories about. Dude, he can actually do the salmon ladder. I've heard some behind the scenes stories about Stephen about. He's a badass. He's a tough guy. I know his cousin Robbie, I'm like, Steven's hardball.
Starting point is 01:16:30 We'd not want to get on his bad side to say. Yeah, that's sandaladders no joke. Votion in the chat, Suskeed, Olrich is DCU Batman. All right, here we go. Also not bad. Oh, and then Shockier also said, Where is it? Shakir also said.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Coy and John, have you seen RRR? If you did, what are your quick thoughts? If not, you should. It was a mind-blowing experience. Back to Flash. I found the C-CPD cast a bit over the top. Goes to the same friend group later as if they came from another film. Yeah, they were whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:59 It was a fun scene, but, you know, kind of fun. I have seen RRR. I liked it, but I did not have the revelatory experience. A lot of people shared with me that it was going to change my life. I did like it. I reviewed it on my show. a coi cast, like my podcast, and I personally found it to be a very
Starting point is 01:17:16 good movie. I think a lot like Flash, I was told, like, Christ would come back and hand me a trisket, and he didn't, so I was like, what the hell? But, you know, um, whoa, wait, what were we just talking about? R, R, R, R.R.R. The Flash. Michael Keaton. Oh, I love the line of
Starting point is 01:17:32 Topcombe with the gay guys. Oh, so good. The gay guys playing volleyball. They just accept that it's canon. Well, because, like, arguably, if you had Kevin Bacon in it, it might have been more open about its gayness because I think Tom Cruise didn't want it to be as gay because they toned down the gayness in the sequel. So I feel like if it was Kevin Bacon, it might be gayer, which is impressive because Topkin's pretty gay. Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Love them. Did I miss? There's someone here. Okay, right here. Sharma, making sure I got it. Yeah. The twist at the end was consistent because it would have been a big plot hole otherwise. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:08 The fact that they still change something with the camera. Yes. was understandable why, but he showed to learn nothing. So the fact that there were changes at the end was satisfying. Sure. Yeah, I would agree with that. No, but the main thing was he still needed his mom to die. But he's not changing the events that came before his present time.
Starting point is 01:18:27 He is. Yes, he is. He's changing where the cans are and thus changing where his dad pointed his head. But that doesn't affect anything until the present because that doesn't, the technology isn't established until like, say it's 2023. Of course that's going to change something. Once you get to that point. Yeah, but not until then, is what I'm saying. What thing would it change?
Starting point is 01:18:45 Well, that's why you have George... But Batman says anything you change is retrocausal, so it can change things in the past and the future. So I'm like, if you change anything... Well, that's why there's the consequence of George Clooney. Yeah, I'm just saying it... I'm kind of confuses to why Barry did that because he just learned why you shouldn't do that and how much you can affect the past as well as the future. It's because the main thing he wanted was just to get his dad out of prison.
Starting point is 01:19:09 I get why he did it. I think it does negate the lesson being learned. I think he learned the wrong lesson. Because he chooses to do it. It's not like it's an accident or something. There's two very drastically different emotional associations with the lessons, though. One is your mom fucking dies. The other is, after my dad has been serving, like, decades in prison, he can finally get out of prison.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I know, but you're still changing the past. He has to, yeah, but it doesn't have the same consequences or ripple. like they're much less. But I feel like the lesson learned is you should assume there will be consequences. You shouldn't be surprised when George Clooney shows up then. I think he thought the consequence would only occur if you interact with someone because he kept repeating
Starting point is 01:19:54 like no interactivity, no interactivity, he kept repeating like the person. So I think the lesson wasn't learned in the right direction that he shouldn't have done anything. But in doing that small thing, now if there's a sequel, it would be establishing like, you know, not even that something small. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Yeah. But I feel like that's where he started in the first place, was I'm just going to put the can in the cart. That's something small. I don't have to talk to anybody. And I'm sure he does. Sure. But it's still just as small of a thing.
Starting point is 01:20:20 He's still learned that he has to let go and accept what happened to his mom, which is something he has been able to do this whole time. True. I just think that he doesn't also accept what happens to his dad. And there's no, yeah, no lives or lost or a game. And a smaller risk. Yeah, I think it's a smaller risk of a thing because there's, literally yeah and and because of the the footage not being available until a certain amount of time it doesn't change 20 years worth of stuff it changes the present which is a smaller technology had to fix that so to me it's just yeah I don't know the retro causal thing is it seems like a big risk to me just because it seems like you could mess up the past as well as get your desired future effect yeah because they do explain that clear I get it it's more precise I understand that the reasoning is better but I'm also like there the way it's can communicate I'm like well you're
Starting point is 01:21:10 You just can't change anything. Patrick's with you too. Without completely changing the timeline. I think it's about split. That's all I want. There you go. That's all I want. I got a couple of people.
Starting point is 01:21:19 It's all like, I don't even believe this point. I just wanted people to agree with it. It's good to feel agreed with. But good. I'm glad that works better for you guys. All right. Happy.
Starting point is 01:21:31 That's good. No, we got this, guys. You're so money, baby. Ryan Philippi is Guns Batman. Interesting call. Aubrey Plaza's Catwoman is. It's a great idea. I love her so much.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Just any time. So detached. Any movies she can be in, I am there. Brad Pitt, Superman. It's the deadest pan cat woman. Yeah, our current choices change our past of that multiverse. Like, the current choice, it's retro causal. That's why Bruce was older.
Starting point is 01:21:58 It's not the butterfly effect. It is, it impacts in all directions because it's a multiverse. Yeah, and he even says, like, more than just the past. Yeah, just multiple directions. We look, we can't gang up on Johnny Kitsynson. I'm great. John's agreeing with us. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:22:11 For now. And people, I got the chat on my side for a lot. I can levy them against you. Attack chat. To my bidding. Jonah Hill is Superman. That's a Ted 2 joke. That is a good Ted 2 joke.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Ted 2. All right. Let me adjust this. Let me adjust this. One second. One second. I like that he lived across the street from Grayson's. That was nice.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Yeah, I like that too. Snacks and cinema. A whole CGI budget went into that Nick. cage fight. It was a cool fight. At least they had him have a cool fight. That's what made him
Starting point is 01:22:44 more rewarding instead of just have them turn and look. I did like that Nick Cage fight. I didn't, I completely forgot about the spider.
Starting point is 01:22:52 It had to be explained to me all over again. I was like, oh, I didn't know. I was like, that's all you like going ha ha ha ha. They didn't even show
Starting point is 01:22:58 Nick Cage yet and I was already losing my mind. I don't know what that means. Why he's probably so excited about a spider. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:03 When I saw his hair, I was like, they're not going to are they oh my God, they did it. I was overjoyed in that moment. Do we get the Bucky one or no? The what?
Starting point is 01:23:13 The Bucky Super? No, no, thank you, John. Oh, we got a few. Derek, we didn't get either. Did we get Dick Cajell was godly? Oh, okay, because I didn't. Oh, no, no, we didn't. You're right.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Okay. Fuck. Now here we are. Sorry, everyone. It's all good. It's all good. Yeah, it was after Corrie. He was making sure.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. All right. Derek Washington says, Nick Cage looked godly. I did like the way he looked, too. I just wish they should may look real. He gave him the teeth. Yeah, the Harry Chess is great.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Go down again? Do we skip to get to these other Cori-Ms? That's all I want to know. Is like, did we do Joe here? Yeah, because he said the solid nine and we cast Jensen Aples. Daddy Clooney. All right, cool.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Good call. He did look godly. And I get that they needed the consistency. I want to see his real face. But that was, that was for me one of those moments where like this fan service is working. I don't care if it's CGI.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I'm just glad we got to see a glimpse of it because that's something I actually didn't think they would ever do. They should have just put him there de-aged. Because Nicholas Cage still looks Botox ready. He's still smooth, man. He's still giving that wig and he'll be fine. All right. Bucky Barnes. Yes. I hope we get
Starting point is 01:24:17 reverse Flash versus the Flash in the sequel. Then we find it was him that killed Barry's mom, then Christ on Infinite Earth after that. Two just massive, massive Flash movies in a row. And then after that, we go to just regular Flash adventures for the rest of the franchise. Just day-to-day villain of the weeks. Wasn't the original ending supposed to hint at at the looming crisis? Yeah, the original ending before the reset was a crisis movie,
Starting point is 01:24:42 I think would have been the third kind of like you're implying. The sequel is going to be a reverse flash, but everything was leading to crisis, and then there was a real crisis. Pomata wanted to do crisis. But, yeah, no, the original ending had Michael, I remember seeing the first thing I ever saw, Michael Keen were the leaks of the photos. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yeah, which I was like, so I thought it was Michael Keating caught me out of the car in that moment. And, and then when I was catering screenshots for the review, they could, on the final trailer, they put in the deleted scene where there's Kara in that same crowd. I'm like, oh, these are just the people. Those are the same, like, group crowd people when they get out in Batman, when, like, George Clooney's scene.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Kara's in the crowd? I mean, yeah, you can see the people behind her. Oh, wow. And then I heard that that was supposed to be, the car was supposed to be there, too. It's like, oh, yeah, it's totally not in the movie. But it's just funny They still kept it in the trailer though
Starting point is 01:25:35 That's a good shot of her So it makes sense But yeah Yep I guess I guess Is they're like Well if we can't put
Starting point is 01:25:44 Michael Keaton Let's just make it funny Let's do it funny Well that's an interesting question Actually in the chat We can get to it a little later Robocop Did you guys notice
Starting point is 01:25:56 The Plymouth overhead Gotham When Barry arrived to the bridge Gotham overall looks amazing as well set in Glasgow They're always going to Glasgow for gossip Cheaper to film there man Cheaper to film And older architecture probably too
Starting point is 01:26:11 Carl Urban would be a great Batman But no I did not notice this blimp did you guys I did not notice a blimp but it's very Batman of them Thank you for a blimp on my third viewing Also now I really love dread Batman because the scowl is same Carl Urban would be great Yeah he'll just have his whole mouth
Starting point is 01:26:27 Grimmis grimace grimace grimace I thought the Aquaman post credit scene was a big waste of time I thought they could have delete they should have deleted it is so that was anything for the movie I thought they were gonna make him
Starting point is 01:26:40 lobo at that moment or something right to give it a purpose yeah to have him be just super drunk for a better reason but like I don't know
Starting point is 01:26:49 Mustafa Jav I like I live here though I did like that was yeah that was a good line amongst the chaos yeah for Jack Reacher
Starting point is 01:27:00 to Jack Runner, Jack Swimmer, Jack Fucker, Jack Slayer, Jack the Riper, Jack Kisser, Jack Shooter, Jack Ritcher. Basically, on our Reacher reactions, we were always trying to find, like, puns based on Jen Reacher's name. Got it. Jack Ritcheron's really funny, then. I like that. Wordplay. Wordplay. A little Jack, I can't wait Jack reached around when I was reviewing the Tom Cruise once. Oh, excuse me, it's pretty funny. Thanks, Mustafa, I'll keep that in mind for season two.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm excited. I've not. Good show. So good. I love that guy. Yeah, that guy's great. He's so big.
Starting point is 01:27:36 He's huge. He was a fast X in the premiere and made everyone look so tiny and those not a small cast. Well, Gracian, I think that's what James Gunn's doing. He's wanting to slow shit down instead of wanting to hop to the big ones. Hold on. Run. Marco Tuncest it. Oh, my boy.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Cut myself off. Cut myself off. How could you? Run. Barry. Run to the super chats. That's the first time someone says run, Barry, run in the show. I really enjoyed the movie
Starting point is 01:28:03 But I feel like Batfleck didn't serve much purpose with big chase scene No, I was just fun fan service Yeah It was just a day, like starting out with a normal day in Gotham I'll use this opportunity to say that I thought the food thing would come back around Because I really like the Awkward steaks of the fact that Barry needs to eat Don't know why I didn't pick up the candy bar in the beginning
Starting point is 01:28:25 Doesn't make sense Yeah, you're the fastest guy I don't know what he lost by it Just pick up the candy bar It could have just gone up a blip And still been a funny joke Like it still would have worked As a regular human
Starting point is 01:28:35 I would have had the time Still pick up the candy bar I don't need like The super fast powers to do it But I do like that That seems like such a big thing for him Then in the finale of the movie Like
Starting point is 01:28:51 Oh I guess it doesn't need to eat Neither of them need to eat Because they've been doing it for days The guys like I've been doing this so long I'm like yeah I thought that would come around But I did like The Batfleck action
Starting point is 01:29:01 I don't, I feel like it's not entirely necessary, sure, but it is fun. It's good to establish just how brings back in the world. Because it seems like they're putting this thing where Flash is not respected. He's not really liked. He saves his people and people are, and no one even thinks. He even has that part. He's like, yeah, thanks, Flash. So I thought they were going to have some rap around where, like, Flash becomes the hero or some shit.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah, celebrity. It gets recognized. So, yeah, there are things that they, like, set up that don't ultimately get paid off. Who knows? That's what Part 2's are for. Uh, so yeah, snacks and cinema back at it in the chat. I was fully expecting Aquaman to pop up when Batman was hanging off the bridge in the opening of fight sequence. Uh, you pointed out something about these Wonder Woman cameos.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I used this opportunity to, uh, say what you told me the other day about how you feel Wonder Woman cameras are a little strange. You got, well, yeah. I think the Wonder Woman cameos are charming, but this and Shazam both had this, like, strange quality where she shows up and she's just like, oh, you guy. Like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's so light in a way that didn't quite compliment the scene, and she's, like, so spotlet. She just feels like she's kind of completely elsewhere, and I don't, I don't know, to be, like, the one major cameo that you get in the film was, like, a little peculiar in that sense, because it's, like, it's badass when she shows up, but also it is, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:30:21 there's something, I probably articulated it better before, but, yeah, there's something just sort of, like, sillier about her presence that kind of took me out of it for the moment. I like the lasso of truth jokes. I think those are fun. But, yeah, I don't know. There's something as, like, artificial almost feeling, even though she is, like, the one real cameo when she shows up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:43 It's a, yeah, it's an odd beat. Someone just wrote in the chat. I just want to, if this is true, it was reported an hour ago that Gunn is currently screen testing, Nicholas Holt, David Corn Sweat, Tim Brittany, and everyone in wardrobe. I know they're screen testing, but I had not heard the, I think it's down to three for Lois and Superman, but I hadn't heard the wardrobe. That's exciting.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Yeah, we'll just wait. We'll just wait. All these, like, people are, like, dying for news right now. That could happen while we have our panel on Saturday of Comic. That'd be awesome. I do think Wonder Woman deserve better cameos. I think she did. It was more of service in the Shazam one.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Yeah, that was way more purpose. Even though I didn't like that movie. It makes more sense. I thought she was better there. It made more sense, even though she was, like, CGI'd or some bullshit. I prefer her there. I just wanted to be more part of the scene, because she's just kind of standing there grinning.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Yeah. Look at me being here. Yeah. I don't know. It's just like it's cute in a weird way to me. It's like saccharine sweet. Yeah, yeah. Bucky Barnes, Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Thank you, Bucky. Hey, guys, if we're still here, can you leave the like? Oh yeah, I wonder if we can fly and ride the lightning. She could have got there earlier. Someone pointed out on the chat. When Iris was talking to Barry at night, the building she was standing in front of was called Grayson's. Anyone else see that? John certainly did.
Starting point is 01:31:54 He pointed it out earlier. You got a super chat earlier. Yeah. You want to make sure John doesn't talk about something ahead of time. Doeyes. We got a cat here. It's a smiling cat. Hells, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:08 That's awesome. Coy Flex. Is that the cat emoji? Yeah, spider coy. All I do is a splash chemical on you and they get hit by lightning just to get powers. Apparently, it's all it takes. It could have explained something with, like, Barry's DNA to, that way. Because apparently, like, could anyone do this?
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yeah, anyone in that lab. You could have brought 10 people and got 10 flashed. She just gets the chemicals again. That's all it takes. It's electrocuted again. So much of it really patent that. It's really important. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:32:35 It's funny stuff. Save by comedy is what we call Hollywood these days. Alonzo Pai. Alonzo P. Oh my God. Hey. Run. To the Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I was hoping to get a Zach Snyder's Justice League Speed Force type scene. Not in a movie that has to jam pack all this. Still my favorite sequence. Still enjoy the movie. that what did you do delivery from Supergirl? She plays an intense Supergirl really well. This is the most comic accurate Supergirl I've ever seen. I love that.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Like Supergirls, you know, 100%. I will find her. So Supergirl in the comics is like raised on an asteroid alone isolated. And then she's not, it's all a commentary on Nature versus. You want to hear? Yeah, I do want to hear. Nature versus Nature versus Nature, like, without Ma and Pa Kent, what does a Kryptonian become? So I love the idea that even without that,
Starting point is 01:33:29 the Kryptonians are so full of hope that they're able to actually be beyond the nature versus nurture. So Kara represents what it's like to not have that Clark Kent, Kansas upbringing. So the fact that Cara is intense, you're able to still convey the fact that you can have someone be full of hope, which is the actual
Starting point is 01:33:44 metaphor of what that S represents. So the joke is this S doesn't stand for Super it stands for Hope. It actually works if you have the dichotomy and the duality of Superman versus Supergirl. And I think that Cara here plays her better than like what they have to do with Benoist or what they had to do with Helen Slater
Starting point is 01:33:59 and I think she actually gets the character more fully. I beat you to it. You got a couple of your coy bingo I did. I was seeing what I was trying to beat you there. Sorry, I'm not spelling your name right. I don't know who. It was the Oscars fan favorite movie.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Janine is correct. 15 minutes. What did I yell about? Various our feet thrown out the window. That's right, guys. You heard it here on my 15 minute rant. Spidey Sensei 72. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Thoughts on deleted scene about Batman quitting. What? Which Batman quit in which time? Which Batman quit? And how does he do it? Is he just like, listen, I'm going to get a real job. Now we have 30 seconds to wait to hear the Batman quit because I have no idea. That was the beat.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Yeah, if somebody knows, you know, enlighten us. I think it would have been funny if Ben Affleck got in his car and then just drove it straight into a wall. I'm quitting. Burn down the manner. Oh, my God. Yeah, Patrick Starr, the S is for Superman. Christopher Reeve said so. They should do a multiverse movie where they all do get together.
Starting point is 01:35:14 They're like, what is your S stand for? What is your S stand for? Spaghetti. Yeah, that would be a great call back. Flash's S is spaghetti. Spaghetti Flash. And then there's Slash from, you know, the band and his stance for Slash. I think that it isn't that continuity, Superman, but, like, Christopher Eve, is not the comic book.
Starting point is 01:35:31 It's just different content. Keaton shows up at the fight with the Kryptonians and says, yeah, I give up. That's not true. That's not true. It's a joke, John. All right. Aisha, Kenya. Thank you, Aisha, for being here.
Starting point is 01:35:43 You said in the chat, you hadn't seen the movie. I know. Brandon Reltz acknowledged on the TV show. He's blokes the Aeroverse now. No question. Just want to let you handsome fellows know. Y'all are awesome. I've been loving the content.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Keep with the great work, guys. Oh, it's so nice. you just say, especially when it's a lady who says it. Especially guys who are just saying it to me, and then all the women say it to John, and then Coy gets real private DMs, you know what I'm saying? They're the hidden one. You've got to unblur that image.
Starting point is 01:36:15 You've got to see what's going on in there. Ride the can. A lot of egg plants and mosey cans. And yeah, it was a bummer that they didn't do Val or Brandon Ralph, I guess, too. I mean, Grant Guston, I think, would have been the biggest moment, but I do, I acknowledge they did it on the show. It just would have been nice to see Grant here. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:36:34 He hates the flash now. That's why he quit. Don't want this. Our CEO. Think about it. Everyone, think about it. The conclusion to Keaton's Batman is him. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Supergirl failing to save Earth. I don't know. Hello. I'm getting Terminator Dark Fate, John Connor vibes. Why? It's not like Keaton just showed up and they killed him. it's not like they put the ending in the trailer yeah and it's not like it's like a weird i don't know not retcon but it does kind of affect the the previous canon whereas this is just yeah this is an event
Starting point is 01:37:08 that wasn't supposed to happen so you guys are both going to fail at this and this universe is going to fold up you still get a substantial amount of time with them so i don't feel the same i mean they're saying that he's still saved right now but it's a different one because it's george clinton exactly multiverse god damn the multiverse it's confusing it's confusing the DCU is going to be so confusing. And James Gunn was like, this is the greatest superhero movie ever. I'm based in my whole DC universe
Starting point is 01:37:33 off of how great this is. Alex Segalo, what is it, Coy? Do you ever, is quick or is it quick? No, it's very quick. I will say that the only might be good thing about Flash not doing as well is that Muscietti's already getting rewarded with Batman. And if this doesn't do well, they're more likely
Starting point is 01:37:46 to just clean slate the DC. If this had done well, they might have, like, I think it's going to be less messy because of this weekend. Yeah, good thing it's failing. That's what we all wanted to hear. Alex. Moody he still gets Batman. Did you like Batflex voice used in the Flash?
Starting point is 01:38:01 His speaking voice, when he is just talking with Barry, I thought was great. I really like, I don't feel like this gets pointed out enough. We were kind of touching on it earlier. This movie does do a good job at distinguishing between Ben Affleck and Michael Keaton's Batman interpretations. Because Michael Keedin's just like so chill. So chill. He's like a stoner bat. He's the dude.
Starting point is 01:38:23 I kept thinking the dude He does look like In the opening scene I'm like that guy's got rugs That tie the room together He's such a chill Laid back guy The Joker came in and pissed on his rug
Starting point is 01:38:34 Like He's lost a lot of that darkness For sure But you can feel that The past darkness it He did it but now is just like Hey man this is his life now Now when he wants to get nuts
Starting point is 01:38:49 He's got a bowl of macadamia I really I think that Is Batman ultimately necessary in here I think there's ways that could have tweaked the writing to make him feel more essential the way how Flashpoint comic
Starting point is 01:39:00 and the DC animated makes Batman feel very essential in that story there's ways they could have tweaked it to alleviate any question beyond reasonable doubt that Batman was necessary to be in this movie but I think Michael Keaton's performance is
Starting point is 01:39:15 it's so charismatic and it's so enjoyable that I'm like yeah I prefer him in it because he's He's just so much fun. He's both times watching it. I'm like, he didn't really help save whatever the righty. Because even when he chooses to be Batman,
Starting point is 01:39:32 I go, what's the, there's not a moment to be like, oh, that's the strong why and motive. That makes him go, I'm going to don the cape after so many years, you know? It's just, it just kind of happens really. He just seems like he's got nothing else to do.
Starting point is 01:39:48 They brush past it. Like there's a little bit of a punch with the whole Alfred reminding and he's been watching him but again that comes back to the thing I was saying earlier that there's a lot of things that I feel are rushed through so he just becomes Batman it doesn't feel it's like rewarding or as cathartic as it ought to be
Starting point is 01:40:03 but then at the end when he dies I do that moment it was a bummer yeah no no but the moment he says like you brought me back that that was the moment we didn't get earlier yeah so I still felt served did we notice the laughing back you mean when the camera decides to focus on it and the only thing you hear yeah we noticed the laughing did you notice this heavily featured
Starting point is 01:40:20 nothing Keaton is definitely uncle back Did you guys say the Flash's in this movie? No, thanks to Peter Chase it. Hey, be nice. Everyone be nice, even though I started making the joke. You did this. Did you guys see the old Batmobile?
Starting point is 01:40:36 Whoa, I liked the laughing bag. Me too. Hold on. Raccoon for a 20. We want to get nothing. Let's get nothing. With Super Chats. I find it interesting.
Starting point is 01:40:48 It's funny every time. It's Spider-Berson Flash. Have exact, the problems I come up with these at such a last minute. I thought it was a week in advance. I didn't come up with them like at least the night before. I find it interesting that Spider-Verse and Flash have exact opposite views and the same sort of idea of canon events. And they both came out so close to each other. Now, if only we can get them to cross over.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I think this is a very beautiful thing because I think Spider-Man represents with great power. There must also come great responsibility, which is misquoted in the same Ramey movies, which is part of why I don't like them as much as other people do. there's an action required it's not with great power comes great responsibility it's with great power there must also come it's an action it's a verb it's a doing and i go done done done to do your point quick i i was i was but in marvel there's our underdog characters that have to overcome something in order to succeed in dc these are gods that live amongst us those are very different views on what heroism is so i like that in the spider-man lore which is more traditionally
Starting point is 01:41:46 like i lose everything this is what my life is i have to do this miles is going to outside of that and going like, I'm going to change things, which is very unlike that character of Spider-Man, the archetypal Spider-Man. Flash is going against the archetype of DC, which is, yeah, these things are happening. I'm an all-powerful being. I have to fix it. I have to fix it. This will change.
Starting point is 01:42:05 So Flash has to let go and Miles has to not let go. So I love that the Canada events are opposing, and they're also juxtaposing the expectations of the universe themselves. I think this is very intentional and I really like that they're so close together. For sure. Yeah, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Oh, Smokey DeBear Run, Barry Run to the Super Chats Did anyone else say what the fuck When they say George Clooney? Yeah, the Flash did Yeah Look is this
Starting point is 01:42:43 I did When we first saw the movie We talked plenty about this Cabio We first saw the movie I think I leaned over to you About like an hour and I'd be like I guess his tooth is just gonna stay
Starting point is 01:42:56 I know I was like So when they brought it back at the very end And I was like all right well done A very long game for that joke Yeah because at first when it goes into his mouth I'm like this is the weirdest little bit And then yeah and then it has a little three It has three beats it's good
Starting point is 01:43:15 I'll allow it Because I didn't forget about that tooth I was the most skeptical about like every 15 minutes like without work do people do that what a strange like would you have to dry your gum severe yeah yeah what's the science here i know people like super glue superficial but usually it's like half a truth his truth was that anyway yeah of warden the major villain i believe that he became is not dark flash but the movie version of savotar i i thought savotta it's okay a lot of people thought it might have been zoom when he first is introduced
Starting point is 01:43:48 but I was like we don't have time for Zoom it's got to be it's got to be another version of Barry that is paying for the consequences like right away and what what does help like clue me into that is the fact that I did see the whole
Starting point is 01:44:04 Savatar season of I haven't read any Savvatore comics like this guy I've only I only saw the whole season dedicated to it so which was a season that was like kind of up and down but there were some really great moments that's when they do like Toby the McGuire Dark Flash.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Oh, do I see. I haven't seen the show that much. It's kind of goofy. But I like Sabatark. Does he dance? He's got the emo thing going. But I do like, but yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was fine.
Starting point is 01:44:32 I thought it was fine. I like what it represents in the movie and I don't think of the handling of it, there are some structural things that I do wish were, yeah, it was very predictable. But I do wish there were some structural things that were a little bit more fleshed out because I did forget about it entirely.
Starting point is 01:44:48 until like close to the finale when the movie's like Hey don't forget When he's waking up after being electrician When Supergirl takes him up And he's just like a quick flash of that guy And you're like, don't forget that guy He's gonna come back over Don't forget about this is important
Starting point is 01:45:02 I did like the concept of that That whole when Youngberry first phases With the big piece of shrapnel And then it becomes like a weapon Like it's a cool like horrific idea for that character And I did think the phasing was really cool too I actually like when they break it down to him molecular level when they go through the door when they're first going into the central city police stations.
Starting point is 01:45:23 And that humor worked for me. That beer is such a funny joke to me. That beer joke, I laughed. I embarrassed myself. I laughed so hard. When he first runs, when he doesn't have his powers. Oh, my God, that little police scene. It's making fun of the way he runs. The choice of his acting. Yeah. To capture it in a way where he's not. You just see how silly it does look. And like the fact that they were willing to make fun. And that right on screen, I thought was great. I laughed a lot more next time. That was really funny. And it's great because when he's in the actual speed force, you see it and you go, okay, I guess with how fast the wind must be, I get that it must be aerodynamics. And then, yeah, you see it normal. I do like the stance that he gets when he is to pose, too.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Like, I think even Zach Saunders Justice League has the whole, like, preparation. He's kind of doing like Tai Chi. Oh, yeah. Which I think really helps establish that, too. Sideep. Shiti, thank you. The opening scene of Batman chasing has guys reminded. reminded me of JLA.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Batfleck is a MF tank. Dude got thrown into cars and walls. I didn't flinch. It's the suit. All saved by the suit. Also, Affleck's a beast. So if anyone, if any of the Batmans, I do buy Affleck just being able to hang. That guy is a huge. He is really tall.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Like, I was joking before, we, he was getting out of his little, like, limo to walk in. And it... The second we were walking in, his limo arrived. And it was, like, right where we were. So we were like three feet from what appeared in our minds as Bruce Wayne. I didn't see Ben Affleck. I saw at a premiere Bruce Wayne appear, and it felt like the scene in which one was it, B.S. He had J-Lo next to him.
Starting point is 01:46:57 I don't even think I saw J-Lo. I don't think I even looked at her. One of the most beautiful people in the world. We literally got stuck behind. That's how you can tell you're in a nerd premiere. I don't even think I saw. One of the most beautiful people I've ever seen, I only know because of photos. Olivia asked me, like, what did J-Lo look like a person?
Starting point is 01:47:15 I don't think I looked at her. We got stuck behind them. We were like within three feet of them. I was like, oh, J-Lo was there. And then I did get to thank Ben Affleck for all of his service to Boston, which was nice. That was a good moment for a moment. But for a moment, it was Bruce Wayne.
Starting point is 01:47:27 I had a very real moment where because Ben Affle was about to walk past us. And I was like, Coy, do I get up my camera? He's like, yeah, get your camera out. So I got out my camera. I started recording about 10 seconds in your recording. He did a quick glance at me. And I panicked because I saw. I saw every online video I've ever seen of Ben Affleck upset at people recording him.
Starting point is 01:47:52 And even though this is a premiere, totally different situation than like getting coffee, getting donuts, like a completely different thing. He's expected to be recorded by everyone. But the fact that he looked right at my camera for a split second, I was like, oh my God, I was going to yell at me. My favorite thing was I didn't understand the context of you taking out your phone. So, like, I was like, yeah, we're going to go in. but then when I saw what you were referring to I was like he might thump you like he's just so big
Starting point is 01:48:19 and then like when I thanked him I saw a bunch of people taking photos with him and I was like I just want to thank him for what he's done for Boston but in that 30 second interaction I was like I've never been more afraid to say hi to anyone in my life and then like he shakes your hand and smiles and you're like is this a trick like he's just so intimidating
Starting point is 01:48:35 he's such a Frank Miller Batman and he's so kind but man is that guy intimidated yeah you don't want he has bad side I've seen him on that one show Ha ha ha ha Chef Z Chef Z Coy
Starting point is 01:48:50 What was this Zippin Do a ranking of your most hated Huh Oh yeah Canadian money Is worth more than American He's earned it
Starting point is 01:48:57 Yeah Oh Holy That super chat's huge Nice Do you guys know What that moment's from No
Starting point is 01:49:11 When he sees the Batmobile Oh, yeah. That's not my voice. That's Ezra's voice. It blends beautifully. Coy, do a ranking of your most hated MCU movies, please. No one's more likely to do a negative video than Coy. I can appreciate all MC movies for their place, but some do better than others.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Crap. Shit talk only. It's not very Canadian of you. I think it would be a great video. We did a negative video. He did one. And that's all I, that's like, oh my God, what have I done? He started twitching.
Starting point is 01:49:42 it did take four times as long to film uh i have things like for me i can't make art that is to this scale so why would i shit talk it two there are a million negative reviewers to every one positive one so there's plenty of shit you can find three uh yeah i could be twice to five times as successful tomorrow if i start doing negative stuff but i quit talking bitching about your lack of success take your twitter energy and put it on youtube start becoming yeah the only thing i hate is hate is hate so I will come at you troll motherfuckers but I will not come at art because art existing is a miracle so the worst DC movies the worst Marvel movies I think that Captain Marvel looked cheap and it was underserving to both Brie Larson and
Starting point is 01:50:26 the directors I think that movie did not do justice to what Brie can bring and I think the Marvel is going to be a lot better for it This is good for what we have in store I think the Marvel is going to be a great way to show what Captain Marvel can be but the movie didn't serve her I do think Thor Dark World meandered when it had a purpose but there was a studio
Starting point is 01:50:42 interference level because it was the first sequel that really didn't know where to land things. I think what other ones are on the bottom of the totem pole. I think Hawkeye didn't do kingpin justice, but the overall show is good. Wanda Vision's sixth episode is not as good as one through five, but like these are all nitpicks. Overall, art is a miracle to exist
Starting point is 01:50:58 and I don't think negativity has a purpose in this case, in this setting. It does. Those were negatives. I did it. When it... Look at it go. We're not going to give views off of that. That's... That's one they asked. And also, that was a very like, light negative.
Starting point is 01:51:12 to get your red-eye, white-eye thumbnail and scream about virtue signal. Oh, right, right, right. I know DC movies don't really flow and connect like Marvel's do, but what do you guys think the next movie your main focus should be about in the DCEU? Crisis on Infinite Earths right away.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Right away. I think you should just start off for Christ. I think that's what Creature Commandos should be about. Crisis film. It's Crisis on Infinite Earths. That would be the most important part of the DCEU. You've got to establish it right away. I think opening scene of,
Starting point is 01:51:41 I think the final scene of the first episode, you should see Apocalypse showing up. Yes. That would be cool. Not apocalypse. Dark side. I got you. Dark side.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Yeah. Dark side. X-Men. Cross over. X-Men. Coming. Yeah. Marble DC.
Starting point is 01:51:54 It's finally happened. Yeah. Have him shown it. That'd be awesome. Ready the Armada. They should even say ready the armada just to piss off everyone who loved. They should call things, what ifs instead of elseworlds.
Starting point is 01:52:04 I think we're going to get a very cohesive DCU because it is going to be not all connected. I think the things that connect are going to work. I think it's also going to be much more plotted. The next 10 years are going to be like orchestrated versus like this than this. And then it's not going to be as reactionary, I don't think. We'll see. You don't know James Gunn like I do. Lack of confidence.
Starting point is 01:52:24 That guy doesn't know his comics. Nope. Of course Greg would like this movie. I feel like I've been the most negative. Yeah, Greg. Would you just stop shilling? Honestly, for like... John hates the ending, though.
Starting point is 01:52:41 I liked it. I'm just saying it is a little bit of an odd choice. I think it's a little... John Pleaf. Barry, run to the Super Chats. Yes, Alan Ling. John, read it. Alan Ling, I saw both Flash and Elemental this weekend.
Starting point is 01:52:58 I had a better time watching Elemental over Flash. I liked Flash, but I didn't love it. Will you guys save watching Elemental for the Channel? I've heard it's not that great. So, based off of the one-endal... opinion I heard. I'm going to skip now. One person said it's
Starting point is 01:53:17 I don't know yet. Maybe depends if it makes a splash. I haven't seen Little Mermaid yet. Nor have I. And like Elemental's on that list too. I mean, I love Pixar. Pixar's one of my favorite studios. I feel like they just don't market them well anymore. Sorry, Jen, some reacting to Little Mermaid here with my wife. Oh. We should do two. We should do
Starting point is 01:53:37 a Coy and John and a marriage one. Watch these two dudes. I don't want to hear your race slanders the whole time. I do hate fish. Yeah. Not my flounder. Yeah. Not my flounder. What's Sebastian doing? I was talking about Latino actor, Javier, Bardell. Oh, that's my real struggle. When I think of, what's his name with the Trident? That's King Triton.
Starting point is 01:53:59 King Triton. What I think of Crean Titans got to have a white beard, white man. That's my issue. I just hope that there's a clipping song that Sebastian gets to sing. He's so happy. If it was like a Will Smith S. Gore where it's like the king of the sea makes all the songs for, like, Little Mermaid. I just love how people, you know, like, DeVee Diggs is a very, you know, gregarious and lovely presence. And yet when you go check out, like, his band, it's like the harshest, dissonant, dark. Shit.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Like me on Twitter. It's great. It's an outlet. I love it. You need an outlet. Clipping all day. If you haven't heard clipping, go listen to some clipping. Highly recommend.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Good shit. Also the blind spotting soundtrack. I got to see blind spot. So good. Very excited. Greg's like, why are they still talking? Yep. Mr. Spaz's.
Starting point is 01:54:41 World is here. Small note. I hated the lighting on Batman. Just any scene? Like, I'm supposed to be sad. This guy is dead, and all I can concentrate on is the fact I can see his nostrils.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Who's dead? Batman. Yeah, when he's on the ground. The end scene of Batman. I was thinking of the whole, okay, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. I mean, everyone has nostrils.
Starting point is 01:55:04 I thought Michael Keaton looked, his Batman, looked great in the day. It was Ben Afflex when he's just standing on the freeway that I didn't like, I didn't like the way any of that looks. I think it looks terrible. I think it's really bad.
Starting point is 01:55:19 But I know you can capture him during the day. Like, you see it in Zach Snyder's Justice League. You can capture Batman during the day. Nolan's Batman was daytime and the Dark Night Rises. Like, Dark Night Rises almost all daytime. I'm saying, I'm saying specifically, like Ben Affleck's Batman. Got it. I think you can really capture, because they do make a joke, like, what's he do it out during the day?
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah. But, you know, I love how Bad Affleck's. Afflix, Batman just refuses to thank Barry for the miracles he pulls off. Yeah, I think it's so good. I'm doing real deed stuff. My ego wouldn't allow me to accept help.
Starting point is 01:55:53 You just saved a bunch of babies made a bunch of you over a burning building. You have actual superpowers. Pauvin Meyer. In fact, I probably should have stuck you. You could have done both, really. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:06 I mean, seriously. And maybe with less destruction. I've got to go save the world on Batman. Pav and Meyer, did they acknowledge Zach Snyder's Justice League as canon? Sort of, because Ben mentions him going back in time by one second what he did in Z. That is their way of acknowledging that Zach Sunder's Justice League is canon. I remember there was something that they do say that. Casey Clemens says, we met, I think it was in a dream, and that takes place in Snyder's cut.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Yeah. That whole sequence is only in Snyder's cut, so that implied that. Yeah, yeah, there are definite, to me, this is the following in that continuity, for sure. between the two. I totally think it's worth watching. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Everyone's opinion's been different.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Yeah, I don't think I've seen a movie this polarizing in a long time. It's like, there's no one that likes it. You either really like it, love it, or really hate it. There's no one that's like, it's a five. Like, it's all sevens to tens and twos. It's kind of like multiversa men. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Bass Creek's child, what up. Bass Creek's child. Bat. Run, Barry. Run to the Super Chats. Thoughts of them bringing back George and Christopher Reeves. I thought it was pretty disgusting and pretty cool to do, especially with George,
Starting point is 01:57:17 a person whose life was ruined by Superman. Yeah, we talked about it earlier in the stream. And I think what Koi said was, he's dead, his opinion doesn't matter. So let it be. That's not what he said. Does Wormfood even get a vote? Is what I said.
Starting point is 01:57:35 You guys want a hateful Koi? You want reverse Koi? He'll come at you. Gallows, straight from the gallows. No, no. George Reeves is a bit more conflict. Koa Expressity, really.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Christopher Reeves. I honestly think it's a really dangerous precedent, and I honestly think George Reeves may or may not have killed himself because of the impact Superman had in his life, so to specifically bring him back as Superman feels like burying him and unburying him and burying him twice.
Starting point is 01:58:01 It is a very slippery slope we're entering with using the likeness of the dead, and a lot of the reason the strike is happening is because the writers and SAG don't have anything in their contract about AI. Reverse coin. But right now we're basically,
Starting point is 01:58:18 we're fighting, the unions are fighting for the right, for the dead, because AI could actually have the likeness of these things that don't have the contract signed, allow for this. And right now a lot of contracts are
Starting point is 01:58:28 your likeness in perpetuity throughout the universe, which means like in 100 years on Mars, they can air you as an unanimated, reanimated corpse. So it's a really dangerous precedent. And this movie using it in so many different ways
Starting point is 01:58:37 is kind of the first marker of like this is where it could go. So I think it is a detriment to society and I do think it's a dangerous thing and I do feel for the Reeves. I also think it's very uncanny valleyish to use imagery that is only in 2D in a way that is 3D
Starting point is 01:58:52 and kind of like reanimate a corpse so literally. So I don't love it. I didn't personally think it was worth the fan service. I didn't mind the Nick Cage because he's with us and said it. It was okay. So it's where I'm at in real life. It's conflicting because yeah,
Starting point is 01:59:04 it's like in some ways it's paying honor and you know, Obviously, in some ways, I'm like, I like that they start with George Reeves and honor that because most people think of Christopher Reeve. Right. But, and with Christopher Reeve, you're like, okay, well, he played the role so many times he might be okay with that. But, yeah, it's an odd question. And two, what I just realized now is that Ben Affleck played George Reeves in a movie. They should have let Ben Affleck do it.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I like a continuity word Ben Affleck's not Batman. He's Superman. But Barry's like, what's happening? And guess who Ben Affleck was banging in that movie, Diane Lane? His mom. Martha Kent, people. Oh, my God, look at this. Riversify. Run, Barry.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Run to the super chats. Moment of silence. Thank you. It didn't say anything. Oh, look at that. Those are the best. Those are the best. Yes, moments of silencio.
Starting point is 01:59:56 That's how you want a live stream. Let's take the money. Don't say shit. Just wait. Just lurk. Is that mic been off the whole time? It doesn't matter. No, it's true.
Starting point is 02:00:06 I want it to be off so that it doesn't suck battery. Yeah, more people are coming around to you on the cans, John. I mean, you know, it just creates a question in that if you... Who cares? Time travel never makes sense. Don't think about it too hard. It fries your mind. What are you saying? You prefer that Ron Livingston stay in prison? Ron Livingston is my Peter Sarsgarde. They should have done. They should have moved the cans.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Barry doesn't get to be there in court when it happens. He goes to the courthouse. They're like, Barry, your dad's just been presumed innocent because of the footage. Like, no way, that's awesome. Billy Cruttup walks out. Billy Cruttop. And he's like, who are you? I wanted to Billy Crud up.
Starting point is 02:00:55 That would have been great. And then George Clooney shows up. How awesome would that have been? And then George Reeves dead body. Reanimates George Clooney's from the crap. Oh, goodness gracious. I heard a very interesting George Reeves' story I won't go into right now. What a setup.
Starting point is 02:01:17 What a tease. Hold on, everyone. Run, Barry. Run to the Super Chats. I'm in the same boat with y'all, Jorge and Estra says. I overlook the negatives. Yeah, sometimes a movie can be just so enjoyable that you can overlook it. And then you can shit on some negative.
Starting point is 02:01:36 That's the thing. It's like there's logic and emotion. And the thing is, the movies are like a feeling experience. And sometimes the movie can be so logically annoying that it can override your emotional experience. But to me, it's so much, it's easy to have fun with this one. I can still have fun and watch Justice League and be like, what a shitty movie. But it's fun. I love the mom ending. Lost my mom and it hit.
Starting point is 02:01:59 I understand, man. I completely understand. Rosalia track. Oh, let's, can we acknowledge? She's amazing. What a presence that mom has. She's so good. You needed her to be that effective in those scenes.
Starting point is 02:02:13 And I thought efficiently, like really well effective. You believe her. Even making a choice when she is like, hey, I don't know you. I'm just a stranger. Made the Lord Jesus Christ bless you. When making the choice to, like, console this stranger in the grocery store, you believe that she would do. And that's incredible.
Starting point is 02:02:35 It's a weird thing. what a weird thing someone no one would do that like you believe she would do it from just the brief times you have with her not enough people are talking about how awesome of a performer she is jeet or i want to see your flash movie uh yes that'd be amazing um rip to schnep yes rest in peace john schnep Yeah Clooney got a big reaction in my theater Oh yeah dude That was great That's the greatest one And then you know
Starting point is 02:03:03 Then they just ended off with a post-credit scene That's just like The whole time you're watching it going Someone's gonna say something to put Something big's gonna happen I guess not That was like some light comedy It was definitely an odd
Starting point is 02:03:20 Paced post-credit scene For what it needed to be I'm wondering if that's the thing that he shot, Jason Momoa shot when he was all like celebratory and he was like, yeah, everything's working at him on the lot. Remember there was that video of him that he was like, I bet he's Lobo now. I bet they shot that that day. I don't think that was
Starting point is 02:03:35 sick. I don't know what else it was me. I've been trying to get into the Flash movie. I'm going to be in this puddle. You guys ain't ready for this shit. I've been trying to get more comedy in these movies. I mean, he's fucking amazing and fast X, man. He's so good and fast X. So good.
Starting point is 02:03:55 Run to the Super Chats. I think people are hating too much on this movie, Emmanuel Rode Rodriguez says. I think it was really enjoyable, fun, and heartfelt. It was a bitter sweet goodbye to the old DCU, and I had a blast with it. I really do feel like it holds nostalgic. You can feel the nostalgic love. It doesn't just feel like, even though I don't like the cameo use, it's strange to me. Even though I thought the Illuminati was weirdly used in multiverse of madness,
Starting point is 02:04:28 I thought they could have done so much more with them. I somehow felt more of a touching, you know what I'm trying to say. There was something that felt more heartfelt. I think that's mooshed, man. About even the weird cameos in here that you're like, the intent behind it feels different. Yeah. The intent doesn't feel as ghoul.
Starting point is 02:04:52 is like some of the ethical concerns. Saying it out loud is way worse in my head and what it is, because the heart feels there. I don't think anyone put George Reeves in there with malintent. It's just an odd thing because of the history. If you don't know the history, it's just a cool moment, but if you do, it's odd. But I do think
Starting point is 02:05:08 that even those moments were from a good place. I agree. The intent was clearly there. You guys are just basing your knowledge off of the movie Hollywoodland. You don't know anything. Yeah. Well, having not George Reeves many times. I also watched the BuzzFeed Unsolved. Jesse Grado
Starting point is 02:05:23 You want to get nothing Let's get nothing With super chats Brodies Love the energy in each video And live stream Just want to say thank you For all the laughs
Starting point is 02:05:36 Hardy Heart Horror I'm watching The Flash Night In spite all the spoilers I'm still excited This is one of those movies You can watch No matter how many spoilers you get As always
Starting point is 02:05:44 You guys rock much love Well I hope you enjoy it I appreciate you showing your support And yeah I mean as much as like The trailers, I thought the trailers, as I did watch our old trailer reactions, I was like, oh yeah, no, this is like, this pretty much went exactly like how I thought it would go.
Starting point is 02:06:00 And then a couple of the cameos were spoiled. Yeah. You know, some things, so yeah, for the most, I didn't hear anything about like Supergirl dying and them trying to go back and fix, I didn't know any of that shit. Right. None of that was spoiled for me at the very end.
Starting point is 02:06:17 And a lot of the details weren't spoiled for me. but I think that it's like plot points that can be spoiled and I'm still like nah it doesn't really it didn't affect my I wasn't like watching it upset being like yeah I think that if I'd heard with all definitiveness like the Spider-Man no way home
Starting point is 02:06:35 you know Toby's dick that really that that leak affected some things this did not have that same impact of like oh now it's lesser yeah TJM has asked a few times in the live chat do I want Scorpion or Venom for the next Spider-Man movie I think Scorpion would be a much better street-level villain. I want Spider-Man to be street-level for a while.
Starting point is 02:06:54 I think Tom Holland deserves a friendly neighborhood in New York movie. I think Venom should be a trilogy where the black suit comes in the second movie and, like, you build to things. So Scorpion would actually be the perfect one because in the comic Scorpion was basically made by Jonah Jameson to hunt Spider-Man. That's a very contained story. You want to have bat nipples? Let's get some bat-nipples. Thank you, Jason, Nick. The chat.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Johnny! Who? Last movie's seen a real 3D, like 3D or not? Avatar. Yeah, both times I've seen it was Avatar. I prefer 2D personally, but I want to see Spider-Verse in 3D, but I don't know if I will. 3D and Avatar is so good. It is.
Starting point is 02:07:33 It's gorgeous. Was Avatar? Avatar was after multiverse, quantumania, right? Yes, it was December? No, quantumania was way after. Okay, then it would have been quantum. Like a year after. No, this is like two months.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I was like, no, it's not true. Time. But, yeah, quantumania, then I guess it would have been for me. Which it got better in 3D. It looked better in 3D. Tyler, Fletcher, I understand, thank you for the super chat. I understand the ending, but also don't. What the hell?
Starting point is 02:08:02 I know, that's the way a lot of people are feeling about it. But don't worry, it's not going to matter. DC resets every other movie. So don't you fret about it. Even James Guns is going to keep that going. There's one thing I want James going to consistently do is constantly reset D.E. see you as often as you can.
Starting point is 02:08:18 Every movie resets the time. Just keep course correct. The only consistency is inconsistency. It's a groundhog day universe now. I did have a feeling general audiences would not care about this movie that much. Boomstick warrior. Boomstick! A beamstick warrior!
Starting point is 02:08:35 Run! To the super chats! Yes. Run! Run! Barry run! Will Batman's director retroactively take this? cgai excuse from this movie
Starting point is 02:08:48 i.e. Modoc looks like crap because that's how at man perceives him. See, I can understand the intention of like the speed force to me honestly feels intentional. Not the cameos, but the I don't think it's an excuse. I do think
Starting point is 02:09:06 Muscietti set out for that look. Like I think the psycho, what is the drone? I keep forgetting the name of the chrono do. Chrono bowl. I do think that was like how he perceived it. I think that was a goal. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:19 I get it. I don't think, though, it immediately conveys to the audience so that this is intentional. I agree with that. Which is why so many people are bitching about it. Right, right, right. I don't think he's lying. I just don't think it landed the way he intended. Like, the first time it shows up, I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 02:09:37 We talked about it. Like, very quickly, that was one of our first talks was like, you guys just see that shit? Well, and there's not a 100% consistency of when, unless, Unless it only applies to the Crono Bowl, there's not a 100% consistency of how Barry sees figures in speed force scenarios. That's why I said the baby thing. Sometimes people are real and sometimes they're not. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:59 Well, I think when he's seeing like these different, I don't know, it just weirdly didn't bother me because it bothered me when you're seeing like the, when you're literally looking at the other universe and these other people, it's like you're watching a scene. But when you're watching like the slow motion interpretation. of reality. Yeah. That didn't bother me at all
Starting point is 02:10:18 and I thought it was kind of cool and psychedelic. Like, have you ever done like a heroic dose of mushrooms the world kind of looks like that. I could kind of, yeah, the second time around
Starting point is 02:10:25 I could kind of see the idea. Like, yeah, this is like, I don't know, it almost felt like if they'd made them part of the sands of time that Barry's standing
Starting point is 02:10:34 or something that could have helped like give them just sort of like a peripheral sandy sheen or something. All right, guys, I'm going to refresh these. I'm going to have to turn the super chats off. What?
Starting point is 02:10:45 Yeah. Never. But we're going to finish them. We're going to finish them. But I just want to, because we don't end the stream without finishing. Every one. Every single one. I just want to, I just got to turn them off.
Starting point is 02:10:56 And I want, I want everyone here to see what YouTube says when you try to turn off the superchurchase. Oh, you're damn V-900. You might have got the last Super Chat in there. Oh, boy. Look out. Look out. There it is. If you continue, your fans will no longer see Super Chats as a purchase option and you'll no longer
Starting point is 02:11:12 revenue from it. I understand the implications of this action. That Barry Allen wouldn't understand. He moves those cans. We don't. We don't move the chaos. Stick around for the end of the stream. I'm going to tell you my flash sex joke.
Starting point is 02:11:26 I got a flash. There's a one flash sex joke sketch I've always wanted to make. Good. Stick around to the end of the stream. If only robot chicken was still making episodes. You'll like it. You'll like it. You'll like the sex joke.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Somebody asked about it. Please remind me, guys. At the end. He made a promise. To make them. To tell you my flash sex joke. Yes. It's a good one.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Wait, wait, let me just check these. Don't worry, guys. I'm going to keep on track. Even the movie's good. The CGI is pretty ugly. Hey, man, it's rare where you can catch a movie where you're like bad CGI, but I still have so much fun. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:12:05 We got one stream lab. I want to just cross off the bucket list here. We've been waiting my entire life for this one stream lab. Can't die without it. guys never leave the cave without it oh my god john yeah bad credit card oh yeah i'm surprised you're the first person to ask about this yeah i want pierce o three uh he's asking well thank you for the stream lab what do you think they're going to do with the ezra miller flash now just erase them and never mention them again or a recast well because ezra did such a good job
Starting point is 02:12:41 I think we should just never talk about anything again that's been brought up. My favorite thing that keeps happening, what I love is that every Ezra Miller video that we had done in the past, if we haven't done in a very, very, very, very long time, but everyone we had done in the past, John was with me and all those.
Starting point is 02:13:01 And yet, there's this camp of Ezra Miller defenders who seek me out on social media. Well, there's an easy answer to that. All the time. who are like, when is Greg going to acknowledge the stuff he said and do it? I'm like, man, why aren't you guys looping John? Because you tweet consistently. That's true.
Starting point is 02:13:26 That's true. Your page is more active. I don't tweet about, it happens to the comments, too. I'm like, John's in the videos too. Because you are the head, you are the face. I'm just an NPC in this universe. I got all the play. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:40 my thing is like there's these people who have like gathered like here's the insurmountable evidence that everything you've ever heard on every story is a lie that is like what they do yes and and uh i've i've gone through it i'm like okay maybe sure yeah um and then but then i'm always brought back to this one question the same question that comes up why aren't the publicist and agents and managers publishing any of this if this is all completely accurate. Like, why did they chose the path of just shut up, Esther Miller, just shut up. Don't too much harder to hide you away.
Starting point is 02:14:20 If this is all true, why isn't the public legal team doing any of this stuff that apparently you people online can find? Yeah, this would be dream evidence if it was the case. And the numbers are pretty staggering. I get tweets that are like 95% of it has been proven false. And that's a big number. It's like everyone, right. Everything.
Starting point is 02:14:43 And especially after watching with the Jonathan Majors thing, with them being like, we have this dubious evidence and we're just going to put it out there. You know, you'd think they would take any opportunity with Ezra. I will say, I am very much team, like, there should be a way to, prison isn't about living in prison. It's about, like, fixing things. And I do think that... Rehabilitated.
Starting point is 02:15:08 Yeah, I do think we're entering deeper into like there is an unforgiveness pact made by the public. I think that we all like, I'm not saying cancel culture. I'm not a comedian that has moved to Austin, Texas. I am, however, saying that there is an instinct of certain people to be like, this is them going to jail and throw away the key. I would love to, once we find out actual fact and details, to see any sort of forgiveness and to see if there's rehabilitation. And I don't know what that looks like. I'm not in the court system. I'm not any of these things.
Starting point is 02:15:39 So people getting mad at me for saying in our video our reviewing this does not condone or encourage the actions of one Ezra Miller was meant to make a levity of a thing that we just don't know the facts of. I really, really want Ezra to be great. I want that.
Starting point is 02:15:52 I would love for a person to be happy every time. I just don't know what goes into what actually happened. And until we do, it's not really fair. Yeah. Same with Jonathan Majors. We don't know what actually happened. It's not really fair to make judgments at all,
Starting point is 02:16:03 much less profit off them. Lots of YouTube channels. So I just, I want Ezra to be rehabilitated, and I want Ezra to be happy, and I want any of these things to have facts before conjecture. Yeah. Personally.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Yeah. I mean, a lot of it is... I mean, if we're talking about it. I just don't know! I've only seen one TikTok. There's so much smoke. There's a lot of smoke. There must be some kind of fire.
Starting point is 02:16:27 But I... Accountability is good. I think that it is a goddamn shame if they absolutely choose to not talk. about any of it i agree because i do think this movie has a lot of it even when i was like like pretty like it was like nope we need a we should i still want your movie to come out because a lot of people worked on it but you don't have any other thing coming out if you get cast and something else up
Starting point is 02:16:52 coming like we should come on we need to hear something i i think there should be uh you know statements made and i do think i don't know how much this impacted the box office i really don't i'm actually surprised it's shit well that's why like i don't i'm surprised that doesn't come up in these questions. And I think that's a good thing. And I'm really, I appreciate this audience not making it about that. Like, to be honest, it's about the movie. And the fact that that hasn't come up is, is thank you. But, you know, we need facts. I think Ezra working on themselves. Great. Fantastic. That's true. You know, it's just there's some actions that, especially when we're talking about what was the whole thing about the whole thing about the grooming situation. To me, I'm like, that's an unforgivable. If true. Yes. Unforgivable. Period. So clarity. Do one an interview. Just one interview Did you see any of his interviews on the carpet? I didn't see any.
Starting point is 02:17:41 Yeah, there was one. Is there one? There was one that went out, but I think that was it. Okay. But that's just great in the move. Impressive work. I think that's amazing in it. All right, guys, we've got to, we're going to do this.
Starting point is 02:17:54 We're going to do this. We're going to shift gears. We're doing it all. We're doing everything right now. James, go, hold on, everyone will be quiet. Okay, I'll sit silently. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Oh, yeah, you can't refill Ezra's scenes. Impossible to film other scenes. Yeah, he's... They're every frame. Can you imagine? C.G. I already as awful as it is. No one's worse what it looks.
Starting point is 02:18:21 Also, I'm not sure another actor can quite do that. That was a truly impressive performance. Like, truly... Tom Hardy. I've seen that movie, and I don't know, as you're a young, Tom Hardy and 30-year-old Tom Hardy. Flash. I love Tom Hardy.
Starting point is 02:18:35 I love Tom Hardy. Frank Grant Guston could have done it. Chef C. The guy who did it could have done it. Chef C. Chef C. says, hold on a second. Hold on. I've messed everything up in my life. Chaos.
Starting point is 02:18:50 What are you doing, man? Chaos. You want to get nothing. Let's get nothing. With Super Chats. Or to follow my other post. An episode with all of you on the MCU trope's personal fatigues and annoyances that you hope will change. the emcee behind the production
Starting point is 02:19:06 nitty-gritty you wish they'd be better at well maybe one day do a video on that I think Secret Invasion which we all did have the privilege of seeing with Samuel Jackson right next to us the entire time staring right out of it. So it's the best thing Marvel's ever done. No that's not
Starting point is 02:19:22 it was not there but the I think Secret Invasion is the exact pivot for every complaint you've ever heard that was one more i will i want you guys to tune in in the video to see
Starting point is 02:19:39 our ben of course where to put his out there see what our opinion is i will say that i was admittedly a little bit surprised by the rotten tomato school shocked it's been a while since i was like shocked yes really and then i went through it and i was like
Starting point is 02:19:58 are you the same people that complain about the old emce Because this, all the things you claim to want, this is doing, and it's doing it exceptionally, in my opinion. I put out a 50-second thing, because I didn't want to, like, you know, reveal too much of our opinion, but I was gobsmacked by the Rotten Tomato. I was a little bit surprised. Ryan Clem Ben's Run, Mark Berry, run to the Super Chats. James Gunn recently said Spider-Verse inspired him to pursue high-quality animated films for the DCU. D.C. characters do you think led themselves to that format? every single one of them
Starting point is 02:20:33 because especially there's more of a fantastical world to the DC universe than say the MCU actually or at least with what James Gunn is starting off with right now of course there's Marvel characters that are absolutely fantastical I just think what the DC direction that he's going is a little more fantastical so I think any one of them is so specifically
Starting point is 02:20:54 creature commandos that's the one I think he should do a creature commandos animated series Oh, what an idea. I wonder if he's going to do something like that. Yeah. I think there's a lot of good DC characters that could be, like the Green Lantern core, I'd love to see, you know, we're going to get the two of them in live action, but there's so many members of the core be cool to see an animated Green Lantern. I think that Plastic Man really suits animation. I'd love to see that comedy translated to, like, premium animation.
Starting point is 02:21:19 I think there's a lot of really interesting Justice League dark implications. I'd love to see Constantine Live Action again, but I also would love to see certain things in the world of Swamp thing. Maybe not. So Swamp Thing is deserve it of a live action for sure, but also deserve it of it animated. I think there are different things you can do in each. So there's a lot of characters that would benefit both. And, yeah, I'm excited.
Starting point is 02:21:37 I would love to see a polka dot man origin story, like a horror tale of that. Well, and if you read Swamp Thing, the Alan Moore stuff, it ends so in a way that could not be filmed. So I'd really love to see some of the things that, like, Alan Moore did with Swamp Thing and animated. We need to face facts, boy. What are the facts?
Starting point is 02:21:53 Swamp Thing is boring. Bees are lies. Lies and slander. lies and slander. I just liked it in the chat, people have been sounding off what kind of nuts they want to get. Yeah, I saw cashews and some honey roasted.
Starting point is 02:22:06 And also, Ayesha confirmed, or at least clarify that I guess Ezra Miller gave their interview on the carpet to a rep from the studio. Oh, that makes sense. That's a safe place for them to have the one talk. Guys, be quiet. Run, Barry, run to the Super Chats.
Starting point is 02:22:24 Raccoon Shampoo. Thank you. How do you think D.C. will go about communicating to general audience. since the Superman legacy is a new thing. James Gunn will probably do some introduction in the trailer. How will they rebuild the box office for lack of better wording? Bigger reason you have to recast is because of that.
Starting point is 02:22:39 Like you can't keep Henry because of that. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean, the fact that Flash is not doing well at the box office, like it is coming in under expectations. Which were low. And the expectations were not even that high for what this movie needs to profit. I think it's one of the most expensive movies of all. time. I know FastX is the most expensive
Starting point is 02:23:00 of the year, which might be the most expensive of all time. This is like number three. Yeah, it's not looking good for the box office whatsoever. I mean, the good thing is it's at least got two weeks to perform well. Wait, no. When does Indy come out? Yeah, any comes out in two weeks. Yeah. So it's at least got two weeks, whereas like, you know, these other
Starting point is 02:23:16 movies had like, Spider-Man, the transforms than this. Right. Yeah, so it's got some time to perform. However, yeah, like, and the critic, and the audience scores looking to coming at like a B-plus maybe. Yeah, the same scores in. Not great. Because like, even the Rodman has the highest scores, like, 85, so you're like, okay, so
Starting point is 02:23:37 maybe the audience scores, is that going to be a B-B-plus? So, yeah, I think there's never been more of a sign now that, like, they need a fresh restart for sure. They've had two, this one is essentially a sequel of sorts from Zach Snyder's Justice League of any of the Justice movies, and then Shazam, too, is terrible. performance and then Wonder Woman like no one saw that in the theater is 84 for like some apparent reason
Starting point is 02:24:04 it's the weirdest thing all Aussie vlogs I'm so proud of this Vincent the Naurafrio wants to play Swamp Thing that was a coy exclusive he gave me that during a live panel interview at Megacons so I was very proud of that always the chance to just fucking fluff your own self huh corn
Starting point is 02:24:19 I just got to acknowledge that you're getting that swamp thing but yeah I think they're going to make it very clear the DCU is different I think casting I love Henry Cavill I think you have to make it very clear these are different characters And honestly, like I said earlier, I think Flash not doing well is going to mean clean slate, not rolling reboot. John, Breyer and Rayne wants to know, wouldn't the supermarket receipt have proved Barry's dad's alibi? Oh, my God, yes.
Starting point is 02:24:46 That is an excellent point. I thought of that. I didn't love thinking of it. What if he was always afraid of bring up the negatives. Canonically, he crumpled the receipt up and threw it away on the way home. That's what Roy would have said. if we brought it up early at the stream. The wormhole
Starting point is 02:25:00 I would have imagined that he probably would have used the receipt to explain types of the body wipe the blood off the knife it's really a strong oh no I love you so much
Starting point is 02:25:12 you see the carbon paper wasn't made then and so therefore the ink faded off really fast in his pocket it's also a supermarket that I imagine they regularly frequent
Starting point is 02:25:23 couldn't there have been some employee there who might have been like yeah yeah he was definitely there I saw him at checkout. You know, he could have had his own receipt machine, though, you know. But the time to date it back in the 90s or so when this would have taken place. It would have been cash.
Starting point is 02:25:38 So that's something. Not a credit card, which has a timestamp. That would have been cash. That'd be harder. But maybe the printer was broken. That's what reverse flash was busy doing. He went back and he killed them off. He just stole all the receipt paper.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Like the Grinch, he just like takes all the paper. There's only one camera in that store. And it's on this camera a show. Oh, man. Yeah, that's a good point. Clouded memory. 100% correct. The fact that movie doesn't even have
Starting point is 02:26:12 Barry contemplate checking who killed his mom seemed odd to me. Well, Koi's right. About whatever he said for this movie of why not. Why he didn't do it? Honestly, if you know who killed your mom, you cannot not do something about it.
Starting point is 02:26:31 There's just one camera and it's on those tomato games. They're the high risk item. Those are premium organic containers. These tomato cans are constantly being checked. We need security cameras. I want three cameras. We spent the store's whole budget on this camera. I also like that it was run row of cans,
Starting point is 02:26:51 and not even like a stock. They were like, these five green cans cannot be disturbed. Yeah, not the blue. We don't need to. Curie on the blue ones, just the green ones. Andrew, thanks, Andrew for being here. Saw this movie on 400 milligrams of THC and IMAX. Wow.
Starting point is 02:27:07 Big mistake. Love you guys. The movie, not so much. How can you even properly assess this movie? Yeah, go back. How'd you get home? Go back and watch it with clearer eyes. With eyes.
Starting point is 02:27:23 With your eyes open. Just eyes. 400 milligrams. That's it. Like, I don't have felt terrified. I don't do. I don't have been in the sunken place. I don't really do weed, but I know that's a big number.
Starting point is 02:27:32 The highest I've ever gone is like $2.50, and that was a one time and I would never do that again. That was a trip to a week ago. It was a terrible experience. That sounds dangerous. I tell you guys a story about sometime. Dank. Long story short, I thought I was in, it's true. I was like freaking out at a bar and people were just laughing at me because I was,
Starting point is 02:27:56 I was genuinely freaking out the whole time. You're in public? Yeah, I was terrible. And I was, I was going through some hard shit at the time. And then, so taking this,
Starting point is 02:28:07 and I was in this alleyway with a bunch of smokers, like people smoking cigarettes. And then I genuinely thought, I'm only telling a story because it feels fitting for what you've said in the fact that there's so much bad man talk. I thought I was in Gotham City. And like there were criminals. And I thought like catwoman was crawling on the wall.
Starting point is 02:28:26 it's so good but you gotta understand I'm not like Batman in Gotham City I'm just a regular I'm a civilian in Prima alley doesn't go well
Starting point is 02:28:38 for me I'm just I gotta walk home to the narrows later nightmare of Gotham I love this so much I was just shouting at my friends like you gotta call me a fucking Uber
Starting point is 02:28:51 and get me the fuck like I was just mad at them and they were just laughing at me. Are you still friends of these people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a lot. We brought us a lot closer.
Starting point is 02:29:03 You did. You did go in public. I was the one. This was a choice. This is a real bonding experience. Oh, man, that's good. In the check, don't feel about the eggs show. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:29:12 As long as you care enough to try and get the pronouns right, I think that's what matters. The great example of the thing I was talking about, though, people get so mad. And it's like, we're effort is put in to do better. That's what life's about is effort. And it's so exhausting. And people are like, they don't care enough. about pronouns and thus they don't care about people like we tried we're doing the work well and if you
Starting point is 02:29:30 screw it up don't don't get defensive like I just just just be like oh okay I'll update you know and I think I think that effort that openness is what counts I'm gonna change my pronouns every two weeks go for and if you guys I accept up I'm going to accuse you
Starting point is 02:29:46 of terrible things Greg dash out Stacey's mom hey Stacey's mom favorite members of the Bat family other than Batman Mine of no particular order, Cassandra Kane, Damon Wade, and Jason Todd. Mine is specifically Dick Grayson as Nightwing.
Starting point is 02:30:04 Love him. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Yep, that's my favorite one. Easily. Is Alfred part of the Batman? No. He is so! You're a slave, Alfred.
Starting point is 02:30:16 He is the paternal force. You are an employee. Oh, don't you do not come to the family Christmas party. You get a W-9 at the end of the year. Dick Grayson's a huge one for me I'm a big fan of when they have like less than 20 bat family members like I personally like it contained I like Dick Grayson
Starting point is 02:30:37 I like I like Tim Drake but I don't like it when it's like part of 20 of them I think that Cassandra Kane is really interesting solo I like actually like it better by yourself I'm a big Barbara Gordon guy I think Barbara Gordon's my favorite next to Dick Grayson I think she's great as Oracle great as Batwoman great as just the daughter of a commissioner she's got a lot more depth to her
Starting point is 02:30:54 than a lot of the bat family and Alfred. Those are my three. Alfred, Nightwing, Barbara Gordon. Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson, obviously. Freedom. Malick Curry. Thank you, Malik.
Starting point is 02:31:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a 10. Run to the Super Chats. I genuinely enjoyed parts of this movie. It had an 8 out of 10 prior to the end. Ending took it down to a 6 for me. Wow, that's wild.
Starting point is 02:31:24 Like the action. Jualand? I just didn't like how the Okay, okay, you're talking about the finale. I just didn't like how the importance of Supergirl and Batman was basically wiped away. A little bit, yeah. Kind of. But it wasn't their universe. Okay, he went to that universe.
Starting point is 02:31:39 I'm conflicted. I like the point of you can't save the both of us and also this whole universe that you've created here is doomed and you've got to let it all go. I like the purpose of that. But also, yeah, it is sort of like, oh damn. Yeah, no, the point of it is that
Starting point is 02:31:54 It's not like they could keep this universe intact with Supergirl and Batman around. Like, they're going to lose. It's inevitable. So he has to go back in time and, you know, stomp his mom's face. American history flash. Let's go. Strange man with sunglasses and a new hat tags on them just suddenly attacks this woman. He had to just murder his mom intentionally.
Starting point is 02:32:22 I did find it interesting that throughout the film, They do dress the different berries in yellow at key moments. I do think that was going to be plans for the sequel. And like the young, the young berry was in yellow very pointedly. Yeah. But I don't know if that was like, you know, just for comic fans, like, he-he, or if it was going to be any sort of like delivery.
Starting point is 02:32:39 He-he. You want to get nuts. Let's get nothing. With Super Chats. With D's nuts. Captain Kirk. Cash shoes. Do you think Machete, well, directing The Brave and the Bold,
Starting point is 02:32:49 do you think we may actually see a more comic animated series accurate Batman that uses both gadgets and detective skills, Bastogne, how he handled Keenan? Yes, I do. That is a big aspect that I am very much looking forward to. I think what he did not see reverse flash. Are you the same one who's been in this chat saying this? I haven't seen this.
Starting point is 02:33:08 I think you saw reverse flash, but I think you saw it was a yellow light. Watching me way wrong. Eric Cross has some video from a camera. But really. Do you zoom into the? this one pixel. The reflection in his eye in the sequence.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Yes, I completely think that, well, it'll be one that differentiates itself from Robert Pattinson's Batman, but I am excited to see a Batman with a little bit more gadgets and gizmos and whatnot. I hope he slides out in a poll and changes. I hope he has bat repellent. Sharks are repellent. That would be amazing. I think it'll be more fun. But, you know, like what we saw, what he did with even like the old-school gadget gizmos that Michael Keenan
Starting point is 02:33:53 hat here. Even Bethlehk at an old school. Exactly. Catlin Gun. That's what I mean. I think there's a lot of potential for what he can pull off. And I think with James Gunn, I feel like James Gunn's going to be really hands-on. I feel like eventually there's going to be one of these movies where step out of way. You don't know what you're doing. I got it. I got it. Let me direct it. Let me direct it.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Sure. I also like that the Flash movie was like at the premiere, it was Hamada Gun, saffron. Like, it was the old guard and New Guard, and that feels really hands-on unifying. And Jim Lee got promoted to the head of, like, D.C. creative for all the comics. There was a lot of thank you to Zach Snyder, too. Yeah, there was. There was a lot of gratitude. And Ben Affleck
Starting point is 02:34:33 was clapping very, like, I noticed he, like, accelerated his clapping. And I was like, that man's got a lot of respect for Zach Snyder. And it was cool to see, like, that respect. But I also think that Mooscietti's going to be more able to do what he wants without having to make a sequel, requal, launch
Starting point is 02:34:49 in point, ending point. Like, this will be his Batman, and I think his love of Batman is going to shine in a different way, and I think that keeping Matt Reeves Batman will allow this to be more fun-spirited, and a lot of people have been wanting that from Batman for years, like since no one took over it, but he's like, I want a fun Batman. I think with Reeves, now you can have
Starting point is 02:35:05 the duality and dichotomy of both. There it is, Bing-Go. You keep missing that last D-word. Going off of Malik's last one, he said, I genuinely enjoy parts of this movie, I had an 8 out of 10 prior to the end, and he took it down to it was six for me. I just didn't like how the importance of Supergirl of Batman was basically wiped away.
Starting point is 02:35:23 What he continued saying was, I get that they used their inevitable deaths to show Barry, you can't change the past, but it just didn't sit right with me. I do agree that there needed to be, especially for Supergirl, there needed to be a little bit of an extra umph. For her.
Starting point is 02:35:36 Because at least with Batman, they made the concerted effort to show, like, hey, he at least got something out of this. But Supergirl is just like, I'm Mac, I'm dead. Two lines from the actual film Yeah Very Shakespearean that one scene
Starting point is 02:35:58 I agree I agree with you I'm not gonna disagree with you on that But man I just think Sasha Kai is great Truly so much presence Great presence and she is She is not ugly She was Captain Kirk is here
Starting point is 02:36:11 She was outside the screening I went to In bright silver pantola Run to the Super Chats What do you think about Wally being our new flash for the DCU do it and have Ezra Miller play Wally and they use the comic
Starting point is 02:36:26 reasoning of Barry going missing in a crisis which Wally could narrate her to the audience a la the Batman opening oh that's great who could play Wally West it should make more 10 years ago would have been perfect what do you think
Starting point is 02:36:42 that's mean I'm sorry time happens the amount of people that got mad at me for saying that like the Harrison Ford Indiana Jones used his age appropriately for stunts. They were like, oh, that's ages. I'm like, a 70-year-old man moving
Starting point is 02:36:56 is impressive. Like, the, it's just, time happens. It's not ageism to just note life happening. The embracing of age. I did not know the Indiana Jones fandom was so toxic. Anyway, back to this toxicity.
Starting point is 02:37:09 I think that Wally West is the right move because I think they made Barry Allen kind of a mix between Wally West and Barry Allen. I think of Barry Allen is a much more golden age hero. He's got like more that Hal Jordan quality. I think Grant Guston plays him like, 80% Barry, 20%
Starting point is 02:37:22 Wally. I think that it's the inverse with Ezrae plays a much more jokey. He almost plays impulse. But I think Wally West would be a good eye line for the audience in the Justice League, someone that you can attach to, someone that you can really connect with as a fun-spirited character
Starting point is 02:37:37 that is super kinetic and high energy. And I think that's going to be important with how big the Justice League is going to be under James Gunn. Yeah, I agree, man. I agree. You know, I still feel like Grant Gustav is the definitive flash for me.
Starting point is 02:37:49 Especially Barry. Yeah, I think Grant Guston's just perfect in that role. No matter where that show falter, Grant Guston was consistent. Flash Gordon is the best one. The Savior of the universe. Did we catch up on the one we skipped? What?
Starting point is 02:38:06 Did we catch up on the one we skipped? I know we scrolled up to get the... I can't see the mouse. Oh, okay. There was one we moved over to get the second part. I was just making sure we got the person in between. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, got it, got it, got it, got to, got it.
Starting point is 02:38:16 Got a got to got a got to got. Yes. Okay, she's checking it. Steve, Stevie the geek. Oh, it's this one. Holy shit, that super chat's huge. Yes, you know, I can hear it. It's a good transition.
Starting point is 02:38:35 Movie is not A-plus. However, it's a love letter to DC Universe. Also, I'm really happy you consider Snyderka-Canon. Battle a Pots for Enough and reversing time. I feel like there was one line in there that made me question if they were trying to to say it's a continuation of both. Oh. I bet Walter Hamada was there being like,
Starting point is 02:38:57 cut those lines out. Cut that shit out, man. It's everything. It's nothing. It's whatever you want it to be. It's whatever the box office says it is. Zach doesn't like me. I mean, I think it worked as a Snyder sequel, and I do think it was definitely a love letter to the Snyder cut.
Starting point is 02:39:16 And it definitely felt like, although all those odd sequence felt like, It was paying homage in a really nice way. Oh, definitely, sure. I don't know if it worked. I think intention. I think intention. Intention.
Starting point is 02:39:28 Intention. There's intention. Sure. Also, Cameron Shisholm, yeah, enjoy that. Joan's awful reaction. Appreciate you checking that out. I'm just finishing the episode. All right, guys. It's probably going to the next one.
Starting point is 02:39:43 Christian unpronounceable at that point in the stream. The Jeep fuel must rise again. Shit, that super chat's huge. Okay, so like the scene of Barry phasing through, what was like my favorite Christian of pronounceable says? It looked exactly like I imagined it for decades. Those were some damn good phasing scenes. That's where Reverse flash was,
Starting point is 02:40:03 is he was in the molecules of the wall. He was just hiding in the wall phasing tool. It was also smart because you kind of get some, you get like an origin tale of Barry without getting an origin tale of Barry. Yeah, I like that. You know, like some of the explaining and at least the alluding to,
Starting point is 02:40:20 and there's been a whole television show dedicated to the Flash. So I don't feel like we need like a full-on flash reaction. They Spider-Man HomeConnor. Flash reaction, Flash, Origin, Talia. Once the Beyond the Sea reaction going up? I don't know. No one's watching
Starting point is 02:40:35 our Black Mirror videos, and they take too much work. So, yeah, it's not going to upload any of them anymore. So, Galindo. Oh. You want to get nothing. Let's get nothing. With Super Chats. Congrats on the con.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Thanks, John. I enjoyed the film, laughed a lot, cried at the end, loved Ezers' performance, Beck Eat and Super Cow. And seeing the cage so funny when Barry tries running in the lab, no power spaghetti,
Starting point is 02:41:08 Thoris, theory is chef. Great summation. Damn, that is everything. Everything I like. Some good shit. Right there. Well done. That should be a rotten tomato's,
Starting point is 02:41:19 It was capsules. It had to encapsulate everything I liked about the movie. I'd be like, yep, all right here. Super Cahier, Motherbook. Did like the action, though. A speed force run is amazing. It's so funny. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:30 I'm glad it exists. That's my big thing in this movie. I'm really glad. It felt like they loved Flash for me. Bronson-Rite Wolf. What are your thoughts on Lou Fragnal as the Incredible Hulk? Well, I'm glad you asked in this stream. It's an important time to talk about it.
Starting point is 02:41:44 What are your thoughts on Eric Benna as the Incredible Hulk? Well, I think Lou Friigno was the definitive Hulk still to this day. He is. What are your thoughts on Eric Baddyes and Incredible Hulk? I think in 20 years, they should have him championed something. They will. You know, they will. He deserves it.
Starting point is 02:42:05 I want Ed Norton to cameo in the Secret War so bad. I liked Eric Banna. I loved Ed Norton. He's still like Hulk to me. I love Mark Ruffalo's take, but it's definitely like the team take. Kind of like how Tom Holland is the team Spider-Man. I consider Mark Ruffalo. of that and Andrew Garfield to me as Spider-Man just
Starting point is 02:42:19 like Edna to me a spider as a Hulk. Incredible Hulk for Eric Banna is one of those movies that whenever I look back on it I'm like, man, there was some cool shit in there that I feel like is not recognized enough. And then whenever I put it on, I'm like, guys, this movie's so boring. You're like,
Starting point is 02:42:36 are they right or am I right? Passing me? Every time I'm like, when I think about it, I'm like there's some cool shit. Whenever I'm watching, I'm like, guys, we're so Because Eric Bann is the one just called Hulk, right? Eric Bann is just called Hulk and Norton's incredible Hulk.
Starting point is 02:42:53 Okay, I was confused. So, yeah, I love the Incredible Hulk. I've seen the Incredible Hulk. I have not seen Hulk. I love that, like, Ed Norton's so twitchy. No, the Eric Banner one. Why is it not on the list? I just realized it now.
Starting point is 02:43:06 I was just reminded that it exists. But now it is. It's Ang Lee? Yeah. It's artsy. Yeah, and he did, I remember people's praising his comic book-esque transitions. I think if I divide the viewing experience up by like two separate showings
Starting point is 02:43:24 I think it's enjoyable You gotta paste yourself Yeah sure It takes a while to get going Is Mal Montoya Let's see if you'll wrap this up in four minutes guys We got this I would love to see Robert Patton's Batman
Starting point is 02:43:38 And his Batmobile in this movie Dare I said it Yeah I mean that would be that would be awesome I hope he gets I can't wait for Batman too The Batman, too. I'm one of my most anticipated movies. Like, I'm glad.
Starting point is 02:43:50 I'm glad it's staying separate so they can do the fun stuff. That Peguichael looks great. Yeah. Thank you, Isvale, for the support, my friend. Tim Kogan. Thank you, Kim Kogan for being here. Prediction. Blue Beetle post credit is BB's universe slamming into the Gunverse,
Starting point is 02:44:04 and that's a BB can be the first hero and Legacy be the first movie. Interesting. Gun did say that that would be the first official movie in the DCU, right? Yep, on Rosamombe Show. So he was like, no, no, no, this one counts. Yeah, I think. they probably did some reshoots where they took out any references and they also probably made the universe
Starting point is 02:44:20 kind of a catch-all. I imagine it's going to be kind of a clean slate movie where it's like the 90s comic movies where it doesn't have a ton of references to a universe. That way later they can include Blue Beetle but this movie doesn't include the other stuff. I thought this one was supposed to be the reset. That's what he said. He said
Starting point is 02:44:36 this would be the reset. He flat out said in the announcement of when he announced like 45 properties he said, the flash is our reset film. But then awkwarding comes out. I don't, I don't get the impression this is the reset film i feel like with aquaman coming out it's basically like i thought there would be something at the end that was like okay it's been reset right i'm more like i got questions well no i think he's establishing there's separate universes
Starting point is 02:45:00 the multiverse has been established so everything else we experience is in the barry's just trapped in some other universe he's just chilling hanging out with george but he's got his dad that's nice all right yeah that i that i'm still kind of trying to piece that the whole blue wield is the first character superman well like if there's different the third The third act has those different orbs. So this, it is an orb we haven't seen yet. Like, if there's those different planetoids, like, we're on one of those. I just because, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:45:24 It's a technical camera. We run to the Super Chats. That V-900. It was odd to reshoot. The ending with Clooney when we saw the set picks of Keating get at the same car. But doesn't that make it a surprise? As you're expecting Michael Keated? Right.
Starting point is 02:45:42 I understand it was their way of closing up the universe as a joke, but it was strange. Dan B-900, no one is going to deny the fact that it's strange, and it confuses the audience and raises questions. However, it's George Clooney, and we love the Clunester, man. He's been so much more respected because he's done so much more, like, cooler work after Batman and Robbins. He's won Oscars, man, for acting. People forget that he won an acting Oscar. Siriana? Siriana, man.
Starting point is 02:46:09 He got his nails torn off. Siriana. He also broke his back and had to go to therapy for years because of traumatic headaches. Boring. so he got seriatins. And then he's, good luck, Chuck. He won the Oster Ford. Yes.
Starting point is 02:46:23 A brother, right, thou got his, you know, that's why Dinko's trying to get that sequel up. Yeah, man. So, I didn't actually think it was strained. I thought it made sense. I thought it was a great way to tie it all up for me. It's like a classic button of this kind of story. Exactly to me.
Starting point is 02:46:36 And he has a classic George Clooney line. What's the matter with you? It's like what George Clooney would say. I also feel like the joke of the whole George Clooney ever being Batman got beautifully wrapped up. It was like closure. Charles Smith, he says, for all the praise, Ezra gets, thank you for the super chat. His performance was, uh, like Aviv of average? Average, maybe, Aviv. Is that like mid? Is that like. Aviarud?
Starting point is 02:47:02 Is obvious. Screamed sexual insecurity. Well, they established that the man is a full grown adult and has not had sex. He knows that it exists. It is a part of the character. I don't think his performance is average at all. He played two. very different people at himself, personally. Yeah. I don't think it was that. No, I thought they did an excelsior job. I can also type a seven-letter word
Starting point is 02:47:24 all the way, so I guess I just, who am I? Hey, they gave us money. He used the word ad. Nice. An avenue? Nice. That's what I say to all these brand deals. And he's back. Put me through hell. And yes, he does continue to say, to save any
Starting point is 02:47:40 misconstruencies, I mean to say, as Reilly as if the character is sexually insecure, has a lot of feminine mannerisms. This is why I was feisty, because I don't, like, what's wrong with having feminine mannerisms? Like, what's the problem? That's, yeah. Well, it just seems like a judgment, and that's
Starting point is 02:47:56 not, like. I'm a, I got sexual sexual mannerisms. I want to see a movie with Ezra Miller, Jesse Eisenberg. There is a guy on the internet who, yeah. Does Michael Sarah talk? Yeah. Oh, that's so good. What do you want to
Starting point is 02:48:13 watch tonight? Incredible. Yeah, it sounds just like them. I forgot who the guy is, but I just like them. I think he plays him on the spectrum more than, like, effeminently. Don't be racist. I also don't like, I don't see someone having phenomenalisms as, like, a deterrent to the character. I think it's, like, a strength to make him unique.
Starting point is 02:48:31 Sure, sure. Say whatever bullshit you want to get them crowds. That way you get hit up on your videos. Say whatever, soy coy for your soy barial. Reverse coi's gone. Soy coi's here. Yes. People shouldn't have sexual freedom and fluidity.
Starting point is 02:48:47 They should be one thing. Only one. I just saw the blackening, which is really good. I haven't seen anything about it, but other than I saw when I went to check the flashes Rodents who made a score with the blackening had a much better to make the score. The best joke of any film I saw this weekend was in it. Sanctuary was very good. Flash was a 7 out of 10 for me.
Starting point is 02:49:06 Blackening, maybe that'll be a video on demand release. By the way, guys, for anyone who's like gives us crap about when we watch something on video on demand here. Studios love when you buy a video. They keep all the profit. And there's a reason why they release it so soon after because it is a massive profit margin for them. So, yeah, are we not in the theaters doing it? No, but the studios are not going to complain when you buy it.
Starting point is 02:49:37 We still buy it. We don't download them and watch it. We buy them and watch it. That's how we do it. Charles Smith, to save any misconstruencies, I mean, oh, yeah, we read that. We already, yeah, you don't get two reads. No, this is a multiverse. We'll have a same.
Starting point is 02:49:53 Was there one before him, though? Because there was a middle one. We got the Charles Smith. Okay, I got it. We got the Dan V. Right there on you. You can look right there. I see it.
Starting point is 02:50:02 I see it now. Thank you. Trying to keep three people on track is impossible here. Like, are you including yourself in the third person? There's three of us totally. Yes. It's hard to keep three of us on Shrek to finish on time. Hold on a second, everyone.
Starting point is 02:50:21 All right. Run, Barry, run to the Super Chats. We are now watching Super Bowl with Season 3. No one cares about our reactions to the world. Or season 4 that's just been greenlit. Yeah, I was going to get a lower budget too. Yeah. Imagine the post-credit scene with Affleck telling Barry to find them setting up the future crisis.
Starting point is 02:50:44 film homato wanted yeah i think one of the original post-credit scenes was actually ben affleck he gets he calls barry and he's like barry i'm trapped somewhere else oh yeah i heard yeah i heard that too um then the mid-credit scene with barry seen wonder woman aquaman and supergirl so that would still establish that like oh we got another one come yeah that would have been cool i would have liked that i would have i would have been there was also apparently a courtroom scene with like the whole justice league really yeah apparently like everyone including Supergirl and Michael King and the Batman were like in the courthouse but I don't know how that would have worked.
Starting point is 02:51:17 That's why. I care about Barry's death. We're very invested. We're man. We loved him. We're here to see that justice is served. That would have been a great way. We know this stuff. Gracian Ryan. Yes. Joey Chaz. Comic movies
Starting point is 02:51:32 aren't all flopping. Guardians did great. Across Spiderverse was like number two animated film of all time. It's okay to be wrong. Just don't be loud about it. All caps is dumb for you. Yeah. Rounding down for all the delays, boy. I just, I'm just correcting. Just showing my appreciation for my three gorgeous. I didn't get it played.
Starting point is 02:51:50 Holy crap, guys. Do it, do it, do it. You want to get nothing. Let's get nothing. With Super Chats. Yeah. Yeah, we'll watch Superman Lois on our own time. I have planning on that.
Starting point is 02:52:04 I have planned on that. Now I can watch it on the big TV with the lights off. It's going to be great. um just showing my appreciation for three gorgeous bays oh my god it's Logan Marshall green in the thumbnail dude it's so sexy no no no shocker I know you cared about not a lot of people it just it did like I'm feeling it what I'm feeling with black mirror right now like God so many so much work put into this and no one's watch and then I know he hired then like for the second one's like hired prepper for it
Starting point is 02:52:35 And it's like, oh, fucking Rick Pucketting money back. So it's happened. It just happens sometimes, though. Still enjoying the show. But, you know, like, I can't do that for 15 episodes, guys. But with Black Mirror, the differences, we've managed to get a lot of patrons from it to offset some of that, you know. It's got to be the middle ground. We've got to love what we're doing. And also financially justify it at the same time.
Starting point is 02:53:03 Not like, like, oh, we're not making a 50% of it. profit on this. It's like, no, it's like, a lot of times, it's like, broken enough. You don't want to only always break even, but if you're a constant, like for 15 weeks, but if, you know, you're making like a little bit of money, you're like,
Starting point is 02:53:19 all right, cool, that's good. Got to pay people around here, man. He's paid for these. Yeah. By the minute. He's paid for these. Technically. There's a way to do a minute factor out of here. Cam plays. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:53:35 A good one. You want to get nothing. Let's get nothing. Do it quick, Coy. What comic book series do you, do I agree with the original Miles run? So there's a run called Ultimate Spider-Man that leads to the Ultimate Spider-Man that is Miles Morales. So Ultimate Spider-Man starts in the year 2000s, written by Byr Michael Bendis and Illustra by Mark Bagley. So look for Ultimate Spider-Man number one by Bendis and Bagley from the year 2000.
Starting point is 02:53:55 It's got red panels on the side. It's him swinging. So that is the start of that run. You can read Volume 1, which is 1 through 13. Issue 13 is one of the best Spider-Man titles ever. If you like it, keep going, but that'll give you just a basis to get to the, the Miles stuff. And then when he comes into the universe, it's in Jonathan Hickman's Secret Wars, which is the 2015 run. All you need to read for the Jonathan Nickman's Secret
Starting point is 02:54:14 Wars really is the Jonathan Nickman Fantastic Four, then his Secret Wars, which folds everything into our universe. The incursion event of the Secret Wars that Jonathan Hibgen wrote was basically to allow Miles into our 616 universe from his 1610 universe. So start with the 1610 Ultimate Spider-Man, get to the 616 Fantastic Four, then read the Secret Wars that fold it all in, and then you can read Miles Browns from there and pretty much get the context for everything that he is. Coy, that was really impressive. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 02:54:39 I don't know if people have ever pointed this out about you, but you talk fast and efficiently and you use good words and you're great at summarizing your points. And you can do that all like off the dome. And I know the things, which is good. But I don't think anyone ever says that about you. No, no. That's a great point. Yeah, buddy.
Starting point is 02:55:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dan V-900. Oh, he's got two. Equating to a 10. Run, Barry, run to the Super Chats. The Flash coming out after the Crosseus Fighterverse that had no favors. Like everything ever were all at once coming up
Starting point is 02:55:17 before multiverse of madness. Yeah. I feel like everything ever were all at once affect, well, see, it wasn't as big though. Yeah, I remember everything in one were rolling once was still like a little indie film. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:29 So not everyone had been seeing it yet. But those who did see it We're greatly affected by their experience by the multiverse of madness. I completely get it with that. I don't really feel that. I feel like they're still very different in what they're setting out to do so that I'm not watching it, comparing it, going. You see, Spider-Verse did this. I thought Spider-Verse did it better, and here's what they should have done with Spider.
Starting point is 02:55:54 I feel like this whole stream we haven't really even compared to the Spider. I think it's the first time we mentioned it was when I said it was doing well. Like, it actually can come up. We haven't compared it, right? Whereas, like, with everything ever all at once and multiverse, there are so many similarities in what they want to do that you're like, oh, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I can see kind of like, I just saw a multiverse movie. I don't want to see another comic book multiverse.
Starting point is 02:56:18 I can see that. But, you know. My biggest thing was Guardians was so good. And then across the Spiderverse was somehow even better. So Flash just had a tricky, like, that was more of an issue than the multiverse issue. Heather, you are so loyal to us on our Patreon. Do not send us a super chat. And your super sticker did go through.
Starting point is 02:56:34 What I will do is send you my bank account information. Correct. So you can zell me or wire me $1,000. So that would be preferred, honestly. Yes. Kind. Because that would just be a private exchange. Did you just get it?
Starting point is 02:56:53 He was calling you. The Disney publicist? The Disney publicist is calling me. Marshall's like, why aren't you here? Yeah. There's a hundred people here. It's my birthday. Wait for you.
Starting point is 02:57:02 We should talk about it. DC movie longer for the Disney public Certain people had their pitch for straight for Flash and spoiled cameos, due to early due to Ezra Miller. My favorite reference was Keaton asking for the wait. The weight? Oh yeah, when he's like, how much do you weigh, which is a reference to Batman
Starting point is 02:57:16 89 when he asks her how much he weighs to use the same lift? He uses it as a bomb here for that lift. That was a really well done reference. I love that reference. Because if you don't even get the reference right away, it still works because he's trying to estimate how much power he needs.
Starting point is 02:57:33 yeah and if you do get it then you're like seeing that this batman has evolved it's genius i i was really impressed that's a really well that's a very very well done um reference so yeah okay but we did get stickers john uh-huh all right guys coy i'm running down for you by two and a half hours okay all right except these terms end condition don't worry coy you did transformers review for 15 minutes i ran it up to an hour i'm generous That video did well Not well enough I'm generous
Starting point is 02:58:07 You know you're generous when you go I'm generous I'm the number one Humble list Says Mr. Point out everything I get done around here A kind of guy Huh?
Starting point is 02:58:18 Look what I Oh Vince Look what I do No one Quo doesn't wait for compliments He's the kind of guy He's going to wait to point out What he's done first
Starting point is 02:58:25 You know, did it? Shut up John Oh boy Me Shut up I need to be compliment The stream is bringing out the worst in doing it.
Starting point is 02:58:37 That's right, man. Now that I could put my elbows at this table, I've adopted a whole new attitude. Another hour. Next stream is going to be all elbows, boy. I'm just here to be like hanging out. Let me tell you assholes something, you know. This is long-haired keeping.
Starting point is 02:58:52 This is going to actually do good things for the stream. We need a longer table, though. We do. Because this, frankly, is one elbow. No, that's good, because that'll keep your energy is the central, like, table energy. And then we're, like, kind of hanging. And then we're only half relaxed.
Starting point is 02:59:07 We're, like, 80s kids, just, like, chilling in a poster. That way, it's perfectly proportionate and symmetric. All right. We did everything. We had their gear sticker. Guys, we've done it. We've done it all. We got the last envy?
Starting point is 02:59:20 No. Yes, we did. I read it. You don't pay attention. Coyle cameos early? All right. You don't pay the weight. The whole thing about the weight.
Starting point is 02:59:27 We did a whole commentary about the weight. Sorry, I got. Lean back, Greg is angry. You see what. You see what. what I deal with your guys. I'm still leaning forward to your happy. How many times have you guys been like, do we do this?
Starting point is 02:59:38 And I'm like, yeah, we just did a whole thing about it. But there were a few times where we hadn't. That's true. Yes, and then we did them. And we got nervous, though. So it's worth the margin of here. I think. To try.
Starting point is 02:59:51 No. This is how we should in the stream fighting. Who's winning, chat? Who's winning right now? Like, don't even like let people think we're like, You're like, I'm just turning this camera off. This is done. You're exhausted, Dinah Guy.
Starting point is 03:00:08 I keep going forever. I've had like 3, 14 to 15 hour days in a row. It's been a big. I can keep, this is nothing compared to that. So stop yelling at me, Dinah Guy. You're getting defensive. Should we plug the interview? I haven't had to apologize to a couple people.
Starting point is 03:00:27 What interview? The one that I did for the thing that drops. I'll interview the director of Secret Invasion. It doesn't remind you, and I didn't know if we should do that. No, okay. No, I know we're ending with the sex joke. There it is. Nobody is winning.
Starting point is 03:00:40 Yes, thank you. Accurate. True. All right. Gene. Also, check out Jean's, okay. Check out Jean's new Prince book. All right, before we end, check out Gene's book.
Starting point is 03:00:51 Okay. So I don't like have a joke. It's not like my Captain Hook joke. You know, like, how did Captain Hook? Have you heard my Captain Hook? No. How did Captain Hook die? He wiped his ass with a little.
Starting point is 03:01:01 wrong hand classic now I really just have like a sketch idea of what my flex joke is I've loved in the injustice game you know that fight maneuver when he goes in the speed force
Starting point is 03:01:19 he does a bunch of punches and like to their whole body and then it goes into real time mode and then then you see their opponent go like all at once I want to see that for like a scene when you know he has to rush to get to work and iris is like oh but barry why don't we just do it really fast and he's like i don't have time but he's like but i could still satisfy you then he goes into the speed
Starting point is 03:01:42 force and it does her in like you know like 500 positions just super duper fast gets out of it and then she's like i thought we were going to oh and then she just feels all the sensations everywhere just like pops into like orgasmic to smoke in a cigarette right away and people wonder how Barry
Starting point is 03:02:06 gets Iris West the friction alone she knows oh he's got flash lube you know that if Clark Kent has like kryptonite condoms he's got flash loop there's some scientific lubricant
Starting point is 03:02:17 that can withstand the friction and feed he's got it anyway guys he's a scientist that's my flash sex idea all right that's good
Starting point is 03:02:27 It's an even weirder place to end the stream than fighting. Thank you guys so much for being here. Leave a like on your way out. Appreciate everyone who contributed to our super chats and stream labs. In all sincerity, thank you, John, again, for being here, being awesome. It's everything everyone wants. It's amazing to hear. That's great.
Starting point is 03:02:46 I had to give that. I should have ended it there. That's a good joke. Coy, thank you for bringing in the A game here. There's a reason you are brought here so often now, specifically to bring your comp, knowledge to reaction in videos like the extraction to you. Couldn't keep it sincere. I'm sorry. Nope, I know. I felt you
Starting point is 03:03:02 like not knowing how to period. Whatever. I don't even know how to take a compliment. That's true. I gave you a few. I didn't like it. If I don't know how to receive one, that's what I don't know how to give one sincerely. I understand it now. It's an oroborous. It's a snake complimenting its own tail.
Starting point is 03:03:19 Thank you guys.

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