The Reel Rejects - THE FLY (1986) IS WILD!! MOVIE REVIEW! First Time Watching

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:35 Boy, do I think we probably will need it. We're on probation, Roxy. We have to behave. Okay. On our best behavior, here we go to watch the fly. Okay, so our first time watching the fly, and we don't know whether she had the baby or not after that. That's what I mean by closure. And like de Nouveau, as in some sort of ending like with some but the ending is that fly killed the fly yeah I mean that's it and Homeboy
Starting point is 00:02:04 has one stump times two yeah yeah all right what do you think as lives up to the hype yeah also I think that maybe one of the more iconic films that I knew the least about like I genuinely didn't know we were
Starting point is 00:02:22 going to get there and I feel like I had not seen images of it and I feel like a lot of times you see pieces of movies because they're on TBS. I think it was so graphic they couldn't just play it on USA or whatever growing up. So when you're a kid, you know, sometimes you see pieces of movies that are iconic because they're just on. I did not know what I was getting on.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Or they're cut together in like an Oscars montage or something. Yeah, I didn't even know Gina Davis was in this movie. Two BAFTAs and I knew nothing. That was exhausting. I like know why Cronenberg's famous. He's like a body horror. I knew body horror. I knew Goldblum and I think this.
Starting point is 00:02:58 The Simpsons or something had a fly, like, episode. So I think that's how I knew, like, something about a human fly. But that's it. Also, because you see teleportation early on. And you assume. And you assume because it's called the fly. Will you remote this, please? Yep, I don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It feels like we're watching Bridgeton, but I don't know. It's very good. Serrano. Oh, okay. You got a little Ben Mendelssohn action. This is not Bridgeton. Not the vibe. I'm exhausted.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, I know. That was so crazy because it was only 90 minutes. and I don't mean this as any kind of insult, it felt two hours for sure because every minute that we were there felt so intense and crazy. And like the buildup to that point, we're kind of telling a love story.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah. A love science story? And I thought it was going too fast at how much they were falling in love and acting on it that I didn't trust either one of them. I was like at one point I thought he was acting like he loved her more to get her to not write the story. And there were a few times I thought that she was,
Starting point is 00:03:58 acting like she loved him more to get to the story but I guess I'm just cynical about 80's love but then it was like the right pace. Yeah the funniest part it doesn't matter whether they were or were not because none of it came to fruition what do you think and this is all stuff that is not relevant. I think they genuinely loved each other
Starting point is 00:04:14 okay you think they genuinely loved each other what do you think now like if there was a sequel to the fly which I don't believe there is do they keep these machines like does somebody ever do this again? The flies. I'm thinking more like the aunt the crazy stuff you could do with this.
Starting point is 00:04:31 After this, I feel like she decides to keep the baby. Yeah? And that they keep the machines and they write this piece and this becomes the downfall of humanity. I think that's wish fulfillment. I mean, you're like, let's end it all. I think, man, I think she really loved him. I think that he really loved her.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I think that was mercy at the end. That sucks, son. And I'm with you. I agree. I think they really loved each other. I think that she really loved each other. only ever seemed like she didn't around the villain because she needed to and I really think that like she was I'm with you yeah she wasn't going to write the piece when he carries her away
Starting point is 00:05:08 from the doctor's office it almost seemed like she was still attracted and love like she was looking at him like is there any way we can do this and and there were moments when he was half transformed that remind me of like hunchback slash like the elephant man yeah and like real life like you know, deformities and like abstractions. And it was so harrowing to see like human eyes come out of something that like that alien and there's still be a connection. Like Goldblum was so good that even when he was like, 90% fly when his teeth had fallen out and he was turned around, there were still moments of empathy. And the practicals were so good. That wouldn't work at CGA.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah. Oh my God. He would have looked so stupid. They make that today and it's like. Yeah. Totally. But the practical made it tangible and empathetic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:54 and fly like that last design was so sick so sick that was incredible i got we got to look up some stuff about this because this has been years in the making of oh man i had a is that a i had a mint for later i was on here now it's why don't you put it on top of that seems precarious what was i gonna do because i was sipping out of this was it not in a container of any kind i had it in my mouth oh you like saved it for later you mean you know we were rushed today so i was in my mouth they're like you need to start and i was like oh so you came in with a mint yeah and that was on hold yeah all right Because I didn't know what to do. I just don't let me forget it there because that will be, I mean.
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Starting point is 00:06:53 What can we find out about? fly first of all have you seen other kronenberg stuff um i assume i have because i feel like i i think of him as an impactful filmmaker but i think i know him mainly from things being referred to as kronenberg me too i don't i think this is my first kronenberg movie that i've ever seen but i'm not sure the top four on i mdb for him are the fly dead ringers do you know even what that is dead ringers is with um jeremy irons and it came out in 1988 Okay. So follow up to this.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Existence, but the end of the word is with a zing. Nice. Is that early 90s? That's 99. So late 90s. And that is with Jude Law and Jennifer Jason Lee. Okay. And Willem Defoe.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Nice. I feel like DeFoe and him would work together well. There were some DeFoe moments from Goldblum here. Crash in 96, which is with James Spader, Holly Hunter. Love Spader. Love Holly Hunter. Have not seen it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So I haven't seen. No, I haven't seen any of the. He directed 10 episodes of Star Trek Discovery. He did eight episodes of a show called Slasher. He did six episodes of a show called Aalius Grace, which I actually here is excellent. But for somebody who's referenced so often. I think it's as an entity.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I think I know him as, as Cronenberg, the deity of body horror, not as. Because I know that when people do body hard, they refer to him, and I know that's the bar that's been set, and I can clearly see why. I just saw his kids movie, or one of his kids' movies,
Starting point is 00:08:22 Infinity Pool, which is from a Kronenberg kid, and that was terrifying and horrific. Oh, I hear that movie's amazing. It's so good. It's just like, it's a different kind of body horror. It's like psychological body heart. You'll see. But that was so intense. Like, I'm still kind of reeling from it.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It was definitely physically affecting in the disintegration of the body, but then by the time you got into, like, the mental elements, it's almost like the body horror became more about like the empathy you already felt towards them. So I like that it had different acts. the beginning is making you love them.
Starting point is 00:08:54 The middle is you starting to be like, oh, no. And then by the end, they're more affected by the psychology of, like, what you would do in that situation. Like, they, they definitely added psychological elements by having her get pregnant, by having the nightmare, by having, it became, it became so much more heady because they could have just had to be body horror that was just external. But then it became like, what would you do in the situation? And like you're talking about with the addiction and the, he even referencing cancer,
Starting point is 00:09:20 all of us can kind of think of. okay, this is not that far out of reach, just different. Yeah. You're going to like this. Guess what? What? Guess what? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:09:34 Because I was just going to say, guess what this was nominated for and won as an Oscar. Best special effects. Has to. Best makeup. Oh, yeah. For best makeup. 100%. It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Guess what? That's the end. And then you just like you stop there. Guess what? This is how you got. You said, what? Knock, knock, who's there? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:10:01 This is one for best makeup of the Oscars. 100%. Ball are really happy for them. And for Bafters, it was only nominated. So for makeup and special effects. What one makeup over or special effects over this back in 86? So it was 88 was the year for the Bafters. That's confusing because there's 87 for the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I actually don't know how to tell you the answer to that without, without searching like best special effects. Maybe you guys tell us in the comments. Let us know what over this movie that shouldn't have. Guess what? Can't look that up quickly. The way you and I've been doing this for so long that you just looked at me and said, what? It was like you put the infassist of the wrong salable. Like it was too weird like delivery.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We've been doing this. Not only we've been doing this for 10 years, but we've been doing this for 10 years together for you to give me. me that line reading of like, what? Yeah? And? Guess what? That's all right. Correct.
Starting point is 00:11:03 That was my worst delivery ever. That was so great. Guess? Since what. I want everybody in the comments. Guess what? No prompt other than that. Just guess what?
Starting point is 00:11:15 That's what you guess. Let us know. Let us know what. Let us know what. Let's do some trivia. Guess what? In 1987 interview of Sinister Image, Vincent Price revealed that when his remake was released, I didn't even know they did a remake, star Jeff Goldblum wrote to him a letter saying, I hope you like it as much as I liked yours. Price was touched by the letter.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He composed a reply and went to see the film, which he described as wonderful right up to a certain point. It went a little too far. So Vincent Price made the original. And then he said to Jeff Goldblum He liked it to a point Certain point Vincent Bray's like a little much Guess what
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Starting point is 00:14:04 Guess what? After watching, guess what? In watching some of his early films, Director Martin Scorsese asked to meet David Cronenberg. Upon meeting him, Scorses, as he said, he looked like a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. This inspired Cronenberg to give himself a cameo as a doctor. That is so good. Because he did. Like, I wouldn't have been like, oh, that's a director came in.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I can't believe that neither of us knew that. We didn't track him. Yeah. Wow, man. It's like when you see like M. Night Shyamelon in the movie, you're like, oh, I, butch it. Because he makes himself like, what if I'm the cool guy in town? Whereas that guy looked like a Beverly Hills surgeon, so it worked.
Starting point is 00:14:38 But the people at home were probably like, how are they not noticing? Guess what? I didn't know. The line I'm saying, I'm an insect who dreamt he was a man and loved it, but now that dream is over and the insect is awake. It's a reference to author Zungisies, sorry I'm bad at pronouncing things, famous butterfly dream story. It's also reference to Franz Kofzka's famous short story, the metamorphosis. I actually think I read that in school, metamorphosis. That sounds familiar. It's Kafka-esque.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah. Kafka's a genius. I just didn't know. I mean, I knew that line. Ron's Kafka. My dyslexia is really showing through today. Guess what? That line struck me in it. It is interesting that it's quoted. The scene where Seth and Ronnie are having coffee at the restaurant and Seth is talking endlessly was only half scripted when production began. I kind of theorized. The remainder was written the night before the scene was going to be filmed as Jeff Goldblum felt he could add more to the character. That definitely felt so goldblumy. it took nearly five hours to apply the most extensive makeup stages to actor jeff goldblum imagine him sitting there his call time must have been so fucking early have you ever had makeup
Starting point is 00:15:53 like that no not like that have you i did i think mine was it started as eight hours they got it down to four on star trek eight hours eight hours it was full body it was in darkness was eight hours eight hours for the tests and then like it was six hours on sex we had to get there at three a m we'd shoot at nine and then it was four hours to get there at three and we'd shoot at nine and then it was four hours to it out in the beginning, so I'd have 20 hour days, so I literally, like, I'd have to just take a nap and start filming again. And they would, like, 20 hours was... Oh, I got paid.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I literally lived off that for a while. But, like, I remember the, the psychology of it was weird. We actually had, like, someone come in and like a boot camp training, because the sensory deprivation made it feel like you were suffocating and, like, isolated. So I wonder what Goldblum went through to, like, because I know
Starting point is 00:16:34 Jim Carrey, with the Grinch, he had to have, like, psychologists help him to get into a headspace to survive it. And that felt like that he was probably in that for longer because it's in the 80s. That's crazy. That is crazy. This is a reference to something that we brought up multiple times during the movie. This says, guess what? David Kronenberg was surprised when the film was seen by some critics as a cultural metaphor for AIDS since he originally intended the film to be a more general analogy for disease itself, terminal conditions like cancer and more specifically the aging process.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But this was in the 80s. Yeah. So I think it became a. product of the time i don't think it was i mean it clearly wasn't intentional but the times would have made it feel very topical guess what what guess what the flies vomit was made from is it it's foods oh honey eggs and milk oh oh he had to hold that mix in his mouth that what the famous tagline be afraid be very afraid originated in this film as dialogue spoken by gina davis oh no way that's great that's like
Starting point is 00:17:37 It's such a common expression. But then this says, according to David Kronenberg, the line, Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid was invented by Mel Brooks while discussing how characters should react to the early stages of Seth Brundel's transformation. Maybe Mel Brooks said it. He added it to the script. But either way, I didn't know this film was responsible for like...
Starting point is 00:17:52 Be Afraid, be very afraid is something that's constantly said. Especially about our generation. Yeah. Be afraid, be very afraid. That's dope. Guess what? What? Who was...
Starting point is 00:18:01 Guess who was originally supposed to direct this? Spielberg. Tim Burton. Oh, that tracks. timing style 100% Just so you know I hate when people asking trivia in to guess what
Starting point is 00:18:12 So you're being a champ right now I got you I got Tim Burton tracks When Andrew asks me Does he actually ask you Motherfucker I just When Andrew's what I just sit and wait
Starting point is 00:18:25 I'm like I don't know I just let him tell me a story Oh this one's cool Who is offered the role of Seth Brundle but declined This checks out with the Tim Burton thing Johnny Depp Michael Keaton
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh he would have been good too Interesting I can hear his voice Coming out of that creature I totally like that There's a lot more here But man is always winged What's winged
Starting point is 00:18:47 Michael Keaton always has wings He's always winged Oh literally winged Yeah Guess what? Batman He's a winged man That is a winged man
Starting point is 00:18:55 Okay so here's what we need From you guys So many things This is the most important though Coy and I have been put on probation For a year and four months From each other So I need you guys
Starting point is 00:19:05 to share this video. We need you to like this so bad. Put it out there. Never my life. I need you to like anything more. It's also the most I was quiet out of like, I must respect the boundaries of the reaction. Is this? Am I reacting properly?
Starting point is 00:19:17 I am a professional. React. Go I guess what. And then the second act happens and I was like, I can't not react. No, disgusting. But the first act, I was definitely like behavioral self. But the point being, if you like this duo, this Boston duo, this Masshole duo, then please comment, like. make sure you subscribe they can see who subbed from what videos so make this be one of them this one you know what I almost pitched but I was like there's no way there's an Apple Plus show Casey Affleck and Matt David that I'm so excited to watch wait what is it it's uh it's the it's the oh it's the instigators oh like it's such a deep cut there's no way to like we should definitely do that because we've seen every Boston movie I almost guarantee it I was like oh a new Boston thing with two of the godsons of Boston Matt Damon and Casey Affleck yes for sure but I don't know if Apple has enough subscribers for us to react to an Apple show
Starting point is 00:20:05 Dude, I'm one of them. Apple's the most consistent. Between severance, silo, morning show, dark matter, Ted Lassow, I am obsessed. Sugar? Sugar? Oh, I did see sugar with Colin Farrell. Yeah, that's the whole thing. That's how many things I was like, I didn't see sugar.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I was like, oh, no, I watched that entire show. Apple is the most consistent. Carl Farrell is very good in that. He's so good. Yeah, he's very good. I like the atmospheric directing. A lot of people don't know. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I like how weirdly existential the directing style is with how, like, linear the plot. Anyway, we could talk about it. Shrinking. The ensk, oh, shrinking, which is the trap season two. Whoa. Yeah. Anyway, the point is like... Like this, so we can make more, you know... Any final thoughts on the fly?
Starting point is 00:20:44 It lives up to a very high expectation. Me too, for me. It is a cult classic for a reason. I love that we haven't seen a single other Kronenberg thing, but he's left such an impression on the industry that Kronenbergian was enough of a thing we assumed we had. Yeah, then we were like, oh, this is body horror. Of course, Kronerber.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah, that guy we've seen everything. And then we watch it, you're like, I was unprepared still. Yeah. Also, Goldblum is so. So neurotically sexy. And I think being neurosis, being neuroses driven in your sex appeal is so hard to do. I think he does it. I think Harold Ramis does it.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I think there's a certain like intellectual arousal that happens, but usually you're not physically attractive. So I just want to commend the bod on a nerdy hot guy. Because that was a, I get Gina Davis is what I'm saying. Like, good for him. Just top to bottom, inside and outside. Nice work, Jeff. I'm so with you. I agree.
Starting point is 00:21:35 They were both just really hot. Smoke shows. Gina Davis was like angelic. She'd sit in a corner and they'd light her and it'd be like, I don't need you to move. Just be a frame. I was looking at her and I understand this one best makeup, but I don't think they put a speck on her.
Starting point is 00:21:46 They didn't need to. They spent all their time on him and they did not need to. She'd be in the inside of the room, just glanced him and smile and I'd be like, yeah, whatever you want. Gina Davis. Guess what? What?
Starting point is 00:21:56 We out. We out. Later, Rejects. Gina Davis from Boston. Queen, queen, truly queen.

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