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Let's get back into the games.
All right. The Hunger Games,
the ballad, songbirds and snakes
commencing in three, a two, and a one.
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Oh, gosh.
Okay, we have a little bit more questions here.
Okay.
Maybe we'll share our feelings, too, because we only have a few questions here, right?
We have a few questions.
But, yeah, before we get into it, how are you feeling, man?
I'm bleak, depressed, with a glimmer of hope, but not with snow in charge.
But it was an interesting prequel, right?
I guess I would say.
So I did like the world building that they did.
I think you said it really best.
It didn't, for both of us, I would say, it really didn't feel crammed.
I thought everything, like they did have a checklist they needed to do, and it felt like there were certain aspects of the story that they wanted to tell.
they had to show like the hunger games in the earlier days while also giving it a sense of in the dystopian future also as you pointed out like it still felt like it actually was the past that 50 60s type of vibe so i like seeing and also too you see that it wasn't popular and they had to figure out a way like of turning it into an entertainment show to attract viewers so that was again interesting world world building as well but i think i'm sorry i don't i've never seen the actor i don't think who played core uh
God, I was bad to say Cornelius.
Snow.
This is a very great performance.
I thought he was very calculating, and I thought I was, I can't believe I'm actually saying
this about Snow, but I actually felt very sympathetic for him.
While there was also that underlying the menace, because we know what he becomes.
Also, you see that in his performance, too, knowing that, you know, the darkness is there
with a glimmer of hope that he's not going to go there, but we know that he does, of course.
but you know you're sympathetic towards him but you also still feel fearful of him so I thought he really gave a very three-dimensional performance like I felt for him but I was also scared for him and he definitely was not one note at all to me while Rachel Zegler I thought she did a fantastic job I thought she was very charming I thought she was emotional very vulnerable and I really liked the the chemistry between her and defiant as well a very catnest trait
in these type of films.
Yeah.
And I really like the chemistry
between her and snow.
I bought it.
You know, at first,
you know, he kind of viewed her
as a way to reclaim
in the, you know,
the name and the fortune
and the plinth fortune
or whatever is as a way to restore that.
And then he actually fell for this woman.
Obviously, ideology aside,
like, it just was not going to work out in the end.
But this is a very tragic story
in general for snow.
and like it's i i like the backstory a lot i think again we just talked about in the last five
ten minutes for the film ended like when i do eventually rewatch the series probably in a few
years to watch this film in chrono or to watch in chronological order i think is going to fit it
best and just to see like where snow came from why he again not justifying in the things he
does but why he operates the way he does and has that mindset yeah i just to see like
just think it adds layers uh to his way of thinking and yeah um also think to iola davis she is
what an interesting performance she's just so eccentric while also just being like having this
dominance and and power and control uh as well and you can see like mentorship is and i know like
they actually have mentors but mentorship is such a big thing in these films and like who you have
around you really is a stabilizing force in who you can become and you know dr gale i believe her name was
right uh you can see is a very driving force in president snow like watching the way she behaves in
this movie i'm like i see a lot of president snow and you what he would become like yeah i could see
you were a very bad influence on this gentleman for sure um whereas like his sister tigris was that her
I think that was Tigers
Whereas like she was like the moral compass
And the moral complexity for him
And like trying to center him
And keep
You know that that guiding light for him
And it's like he chose his path
Unfortunately the wrong way
So yeah
And also Peter Dinklage
I like the gravitas that he brought
And how weary he was
And then we find out a little bit of the backstory
How his dad took credit for
You know
It was at the Hunger Games right?
Yeah
A lot of people like taking credit
for other people's work in this
in this film so
yeah I think
it was a very and I like that
kind of like in the last two
mocking J films I would say this film traded
in the action spectacle
you know for the dramatic weight
and I didn't
mind it honestly like
you mean when it did show the action I thought
it was choreographed in a way
that I was emotionally invested
so I was fine I think as long as I'm invested
in the characters in the storyline
I don't need a person.
I love action.
Give me action whenever you can, of course.
But I think I'm more drawn to storytelling and rich characters.
And when you give me that, I prefer that over just mindless action.
Even if it's fun, entertaining action, of course.
I'll always take that.
But I prefer that.
And I like that these films recognize it's so important to tell important stories,
or to tell stories that progress the characters in a way that is fascinating and needs to be told,
especially in a world-building film like this,
but I've gone on way too long.
How are you feeling?
I feel this was a good movie.
I really enjoyed it.
I think that when it started, my mind was thinking, like,
okay, why are we watching a Snow Origin story?
Why are we here investing in this guy?
Like, I already hate this character.
Not what he's done so far, but what I know he becomes.
but yeah that that is the journey seeing how somebody can be in battle between their their heart and their ambition you know their desires to do good desires to live up to not become a monster and how the world and how his ambition sort of clouds that desire to be a better person and watching his descent into the snow at the beginning of the snow we
know him to be in the future
hundred games movies or the ones that take place
you know 60 years later was really
believable I thought that they did a great job
establishing not the initial
inception of the Hunger Games but how they became what we
know them to be in those later films
with it being about the
love for the
of the games or love for the contestants
and that's what inspires hope
That's what gets people invested in them and using heart and intrigue to really propel the games into the popularity, which disdains them through the next six decades.
So I thought that was very interesting to see not the inception of something, but the elevation of something and how he was a direct part in that and how that in turn changed him into a darker man.
And yeah, I thought all the performances are really strong as well.
I think this movie did a great job of showcasing how these different characters played a role into the future of The Hunger Games and the future of Snow and how they all played a role in justifying this movie's existence.
I think that it's tough because we live in a day and age where there are a lot of major franchises that sustain the likelihood of the survival of Hollywood.
not even Hollywood, but just like the theater-going experience, right?
So we end up getting, you know, a lot of remakes and a lot of rehashes of things
and, you know, milking franchises for all they can be.
But I think this movie did a great job of justifying why we needed a story like this
to really add color and texture into the future movies.
Because you get these kind of prequels sometimes that you have to watch after the fact
and like it adds in context, but I feel like a movie like this, you could really watch this first
and then it plays into everything we know later because, yeah, like, okay, she's the reason why
the Hanging Tree song exists. Okay. He has a personal connection to Katness because he reminds her
of Katniss and both the flower and Lucy remind a reminder of Katniss or vice versa.
So, yeah, I just think the movie was really strong and a lot better than I expected it to be.
They did a good job of having all three chapters of this make sense in their titles,
and its runtime didn't feel rushed at all, yet it did an efficient way of packing a lot of interesting story into this narrative.
And yeah, I really enjoyed it.
I probably say this is third.
The third or fourth for me is like catching fire and hunger games for sure, number one and two.
And then I was like, is it part two of Mocking Jay and then this or this and then Mocking Jay Part J.
I definitely like this better than Mocking Jay part one for sure.
Yeah, I mean, I like all the films.
Yeah, and we're just like going over our ranking.
I do have a question because I can't remember because my mind is horrifically mushy and my memory is awful right now.
When Katna's saying that song that Lucy sing.
Yeah.
and she sang it to Foggy
Was that in private
Or was that publicly broadcast?
I don't remember.
The reason I'm asking that, by the way,
I want to know if it was publicly broadcasts,
that means Snow heard it.
For sure.
No, it was.
I think it started off as a moment between them.
And then she started recording it.
And then you hear the group of people all singing it.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Because now I want to rewatch just that scene.
And I want to look at Snow's face as he's listening to that.
song because it's loose that I remind him of Lucy yeah I'm wondering if this we can look it up
actually because I'm curious to know if this is based on another Hunger Games book or if this was
original story for the movie but I'm just saying I like how that like adds to the context of
that too and gives it more of a personal history there you know what I mean yeah no totally I think
it did a really good job of adding some context a prequel yes it's a prequel
is it
based on book
ah that's a good question
yes the film
2020 prequel
oh okay
oh it's a 20
so it's a fairly new
okay so when they made
the movie because mocking jay
part one came out what
20
I can't remember what year it came out
it was before 2020 though
yeah okay so
They just wanted to insert that.
They jumped on it quickly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Either way.
Should we get into the questions?
I think we should.
Yeah, man.
Let's do it.
Let's rock and roll.
All right.
Clayton Cook.
Thank you for sending out a question.
Aaron and Andrew, first off sending virtual hugs to you and your family, Andrew.
Thank you, Clayton.
You and Aaron, hashtag real roommates are my favorite reactors in the channel.
Oh, thank you, dude.
Appreciate you.
you love the way you see movies really connect with me but i know you guys like music a lot
how did you feel about the singing was it too much or were you vibing i'm not going to lie
clayton like when i heard what the movie was called i thought it was going to kind of get into
the musical territory which i like musicals but i was like i was kind of thinking like are we
going to go to joker do territory this i mean there were definitely songs in the movie which
I mean, there were a couple in the other films, you know, we saw with Katness and all that.
So I don't think it was distracting in any way.
I thought it fit with the plot and with, you know, fit in with Lucy's character as well.
There were only, I mean, there were times where they were at bars, which is totally grounded in reality of what we do here and, you know, in our world.
So I didn't think it was distracting in any way.
I think it fit into the universe that they have there.
And it didn't make me even think about, like, this film is now like a musical.
It's like a parody in itself.
and doesn't fit into the Hunger Game universe.
It actually felt kind of, actually totally natural.
So, especially with what we saw on Catness and Mocking J. Part 1 and some of the other
songs we've seen in the other film.
So what about you?
Yeah, I mean, it felt baked into the title of the movie and, you know, you don't hire someone
like Rachel Zegler to not sing.
So, because, yeah, obviously she's a great actress, but as soon as she started singing,
I was like, oh, okay, that's why they hired her.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
but yeah i fortunately really dug the music in the movie like outside of the the context of
why it's in the movie i think just they were just good songs in general i really vibed with the
lyrics but but they also were integral to the not integral to the plot per se but i think they're
they're important for her character and i think that is part of what endeared snow to her in the
first place her her heart and her you know her voice so yeah but i think
that it really worked and i will definitely be listening to more of this music uh once we leave the
studio was a voice of beauty and also a voice of defiance as well and i think it attracted people just
and emotionally invested people towards her in the audience as well so yeah yeah thank you so much clayton
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the Hunger Games through mocking jay and now this movie do you find snow's story tragic in any way i did
say that and do you think that snow potentially saw a lot of lucy gray and catness after all that time
it passed that's a good point both lucy gray and catness had some similarities namely their rebellious
spirit and them both being from district 12 wow that's a lot to to think about now when you
rewatch the series i'll let you go first on that yeah i think
think that it was a tragic
story because this was about his
battle and desire for
his soul
you know him but wanting
to be a man
of love wanting to not let down
his sister but also had his own
ambitions and unfortunately
we know how the story plays out
and it's it's tough right
because we just
watched the movie so I'm watching
it like I want
to give the movie a chance right I want
watch every movie like starting from zero but because we know he's how evil he becomes part of me
was watching with my arms closed a little bit and then as the movie kind of opened up and we had to
see more of the the character relationships and whatnot I sort of like softened up and was like okay
here we are on this journey I know he's going to become bad I don't want him to become bad they
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in her to find she literally even did the same bow the cadness did um in the beginning of this movie
so yeah maybe that's why he felt this personal connection to her because she was a reminder of
the twinge of soul he had left in his youth and he wanted to squash it out she was like symbolic in that
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Yeah, what did you think?
So, yeah, no, I definitely think it was tragic.
Again, I said it earlier, the fact that we felt sympathy for him knowing what he becomes, like this, a complete oppressor and how many deaths and how much blood he has on his hands, but also at the same time, like, you know, also having this fear for him throughout the film as well.
And, yeah, I think.
It was kind of like the saying I was saying while we were watching the movie, how much power corrupts.
And, you know, just having the influences around you that, but also, too, like, it was tragic in a way of not only because, again, his sister was that moral complexity that was trying to keep in there.
But also, I feel like Lucy was as well.
He was ready to have a life with her and just go off.
He went into the cabin.
They were ready to, you know, be with each other forever.
And then just once you realized he was completely lying about the third person because it was Sejunis, Sejunis, however you say his name.
And really had, there was really a dark side to him and there was a clearly opposing ideologies.
Just not going to work, unfortunately.
So, I mean, he was willing, you know, to have a life of love and away from the, or from Panam and get away and save his soul.
in that perspective so it was tragic in that sense for sure like he wanted to be a good person and
unfortunately and it was a battle of his soul this this film so it's definitely tragic and now when
you see what he becomes in all the blood that he will unfortunately have on his hands after this
so it's just the beginning yeah it really is like those those three were literally just the beginning of
many many more for sure in regards to lucy being a lot like catniss i would say there are some
similarities, you know, they are both from District 12. They both have, you know, defiance in
their DNA for sure. I would say, and they're both survivors and victors. I would say those are
some of their similar qualities. I would probably say Katness is more, probably a little more of a badass
in terms of, I mean, she's able to use a bow. And, you know, in that sense, I would probably, like,
if I were in a life and death situation, I'd probably want Katness on my team. I would trust her more
in that situation. Not that Lucy's, I don't like her. It's just, I'm just talking about life and death,
like fighting mode right now. But I mean, definitely some, some actual, like, just regular qualities,
as I just mentioned in regards to being defiant and that and such and that way. But other than that,
I like how there was enough separation between the two of them as well. I think that,
as much as I love Catness and her free spirit and rebellious side,
which I guess you could make an argument that Lucy had as well.
I think Lucy was a little more charming than her.
You know, Catness is like very direct and will like tell you what she thinks,
which I love.
I love that about Katness.
You know what I mean?
So I would say there's definitely some similar traits and they also have their opposite traits,
which I'm like, I don't want the exact same character at the same point.
So I like that there's enough of a contrast between the two of them that I can separate them as well.
Yeah, I think that Cadness from the jump, she was already someone who was like more, more stoic, more like rough around the edges, not necessarily a presentational kind of a victor or player.
But someone like Lucy, she's literally a singer, she's charismatic, she's warm, she's charming, and which makes you out of an invitation.
endeared to her exactly um but yeah that is uh that is the stuff that we saw man so thank you for
the question though good good uh good stuff j rush what up jrushed what up jay i should get a shirt
with me just saying what up jay i said you always say before i have to i have to and jay knows this
too uh what did you think of the games and were they successful um well i think again i already
said it on on the review here and
We pointed it out multiple times.
I think Aaron pointed it out and observed it best while we were reacting to it,
that it's so, I love the world building and just seeing like you can see the early days of the games,
how because the viewership is not there.
It kind of reminded me, and I'm not, just so you know, when I'm not comparing this,
I'm not comparing, like, YouTube, for instance, to life and death rate situation,
because this is no joke what they are going through in the hungry.
Of course.
freaking awful. I just mean when, like, you don't have the audience, you don't have the budget.
And it's like with YouTube, once you have the audience, you're able to get the budget to
enhance certain things of a studio or the cameras and the equipment and stuff. And you could
see that in like their arena, in the studios that the, the two flickermins have. Just every,
the drones that were being sent in as opposed to the parachutes. It's like, it's like just
world-building stuff like that, I was like, wow, what a difference.
And also, too, like, even though it's disgusting that they have those hunger games,
the way you articulated so beautifully with how snow is able to add somewhat of a human aspect
to how they treat the players.
The play, is that what they're called?
They're called tributes, the two tributes from each district with how they are treated
beforehand because before they're locked in like a zoo cage with barely any food and
taunted whereas in the first hunger games when we see them they're luxury even though it's
again they're about to be sent to their doom it's like let's give you some luxury so that way you
are filled with a little bit of hope and people can get invested kind of like a sports team and you know
they have something to root for as opposed to you know i don't want to watch something that's in an
animal zoo cage and i don't care about this so like uh you know from a
a dark twisted place snow understood the assignment on how to build up the games
but yeah i would say that's what i thought of the games and uh were these ones i mean they
built it up to be i mean it ended up being successful by the end
or i mean they were setting it up to be successful so
it was the most successful up to this point i would say and it's we know what it becomes
What about you?
Yeah, I think that it is interesting watching the development of the games,
both how they select their players, what they do with them, how they treat them,
and then once they're finally inside of the Hunger Games.
Because, yeah, literally from its jump, its inception of when they're put into that cage,
they are treated like animals.
This is a punishment, and it's shown as much as,
as it is a punishment.
And, yeah, they're literally in a Coliseum like beasts there.
They are gladiators for their entertainment, whereas what Snow brought to the equation is flare and pizzazz and heart and showmanship, if you will.
And I thought that was more insidious because it makes it gives people something to hope for.
or something to root for in their own homes watching these different people from their districts.
There's like this false sense of pride in division knowing that these people are there to represent their area that's kind of forced upon them by the Capitol.
But because of that structure and how it's developed into something that, okay,
We now have these things that we're rooting for because we want them to be these figures, these faces.
It changes the context of it entirely.
And, yeah, I do think it was successful because it went on for another freaking 65 years, 64 years.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I think Snow, his ideas and the way he changed the games were, I guess, by their standard, successful, but detrimental to the future of his people's freedom.
He's an evil, dark, and twisted marketing genius.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Thanks for the question.
Thanks, Jay.
All right.
From Jaden Rhodes.
I'm curious, what did y'all think about making movies about the previous games?
Me personally, I love it.
I'm surprised we don't have one every other year.
I cannot wait for the Haymich one coming out next year.
I mean, I'll let you go first.
Yeah, no.
I think that is a great idea.
Yeah.
I don't know if I need one every year.
other year because it's like it's already so dystopian that we know how it ends right but for the
characters that we haven't gotten origins for at least the very least hamage seeing how he came to
be how he was before the games we know how he ends up after the games i think that's definitely
interesting and my question is how does it validate or justify its own existence i feel like
this movie justified itself in existence by showing how the games
were changed and how snow was changed.
I think that there is, I don't know,
because I feel like the games would already be what we know them to be
with the time Hamage is there.
So it's really just watching how the experience of what he's gone through has changed him,
which is interesting in and of itself,
but we know that his experience isn't making major headway in the just...
The universe.
In the universe itself.
you know this is something that added color and texture to the universe and you know we we know
where it ends up so I'm wondering how they they do that and yeah but I that said we didn't get to
see hams really fight in any of these movies so I'm curious to know exactly what his style is
and maybe there is some sort of influence that he's had over this the experience of the hungry
games that we don't know about so I'm be curious to know how that uncovers itself what do you think
I agree with you we don't need one every other year we need one every year
no but you're right like this movie did justify its own existence for sure the world building into what we got why is snow the way he is what caused this man to have his to darken his soul to the point of becoming having blood on his hands and being oppressor yeah and i think this film really explored that kind of evil and loss of humanity you know in a brilliant way in my opinion i would say when it comes to haman
Mitch, he's one of, I would say both of our favorite characters, one of our favorite characters
in the four films. I found him very interesting. And the fact that I, by the way, I say if Aaron and I
react to that film, which I'm going to assume Greg is going to have us to, I say we are hitting
the bottle when we watch. I think that's the only way to do. It's Hey Mitch style, you know.
But joking aside, I did find Hamish very fascinating. I'm going, I mean, you know, that type of
trauma where in the PTSD, that man is suffering.
from i can only and we we saw the hunger games we saw the first two you know uh with catching fire
with the rotating clock island an arena rather in the first one from catnuses and pita's perspective so
we know the horrors and atrocities so i i think like the biggest thing for me justifying is like
you know because we see what the PTSD does to you so you're going to have to go deeper and
beyond that like but also too like i want to see how he was before that
Is he like a complete pacifist?
And this made him into a violent rage machine monster.
And like he regrets having to become that.
There's a lot of different ways you can go.
So, you know, because we didn't, as Aaron just pointed out,
and as many you know, we didn't see Hamage do any violence at all.
So didn't know what his expertise is.
Yeah.
So, but did because of the events that he went through,
I made a pact.
I am never going to cause violence on any more human.
beings after this like stuff like that could justify its own existence you know and also too just
the fact to me personally because i love the character so much i do just want to see like what he
went through even though we've seen the hunger games as as mentioned but i mean he almost did go back
into the game so i think that you know he's not right before p before peter volunteered yeah well if he if you
have no choice right yeah what are you going to do right so yeah i i'm i'm still excited to see the
movie to see what they do um a wonder i i doubt there would be a even though because he's actually
still alive i wonder if there would be a witty do is that is that too forced and too down your throat
if you have a woody harrison character that's not hamage or i don't know if you could even do that
i think they're going to recast him no no no no no of course of course you have a young
are you saying cast him was another character i just meant like just for a fun little five second
came you're like there's woody harrison done he's out of the movie you know what i mean just just to honor
Woody Harrelson kind of thing.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm definitely intrigued at the thought of the idea, but I think Aaron said it best, we've got to see, like, what's the justification for why this movie exists besides the fact that two people like Aaron and I and whoever else loves the character of Hamish besides the fact that, why does this man drink out of the bottom?
Let's go a little deeper than that.
Yeah.
Now, Cass Woody Harrelson's as Hamich's dad.
Right.
They all look alike, I guess.
Yeah, just one thing, and then I do have to get going.
Rotten Tomatoes.
Just do one, and I'll tell you if that one is correct.
And then we'll go, critics, and then we'll go to the audience, one at a time.
64%.
How did you do that?
Because I saw it already.
Did you?
Yeah, I was going to look it up, but then you got your phone out.
Oh, you saw it?
In my phone?
I saw it beforehand.
No, not on your phone.
Oh, like, oh, you saw it earlier when you were looking it up?
Yeah.
Gosh, day.
You should have just pretended and play.
played it cool and then said that off camera they would have made you look extra smart so you
saw the audience i don't know what the audience is oh well what's the audience 79 oh 89 okay
i was like you got it right on the mark jesus aired that's not what i feel about it though i think
it's definitely a higher score i would go like 70s between the 76 and 80 mark i would say on the
critics and i think the audience is i'm fine with that yeah all right guys well that'll be it for us today
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