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Episode Date: September 22, 2025THE VIN DIESEL, BRAD BIRD CLASSIC! The Iron Giant Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: / thereelrejects Superman Movie Reaction: • SUPERMAN (2025) DELIVERS ON THE HYPE!! MOV...... Get your New Customer offer + 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month at https://www.mintmobile.com/REJECTS The Iron Giant Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Breakdown & Spoiler Review! Greg Alba & Andrew Gordon (Cinepals) revisit the 1999 animated cult classic The Iron Giant, directed by Brad Bird (The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol) and produced by Warner Bros. Animation, the same studio behind countless DC classics like Superman: The Animated Series. The film stars Vin Diesel (Fast & Furious, Guardians of the Galaxy) as the voice of the Giant, Eli Marienthal (American Pie) as young Hogarth Hughes, Jennifer Aniston (Friends, The Morning Show) as his mom Annie, Harry Connick Jr. (Hope Floats, Independence Day) as beatnik artist Dean, Christopher McDonald (Happy Gilmore, Requiem for a Dream) as the paranoid government agent Kent Mansley, and John Mahoney (Frasier, Say Anything) as General Rogard. We dive into iconic scenes like Hogarth teaching the Giant “You are who you choose to be,” the unforgettable “Superman” sacrifice, the deer scene that teaches the Giant about death, Kent Mansley’s escalating paranoia, and the emotional Cold War-era standoff that culminates in one of the most powerful endings in animated history. Famous quotes include “I am not a gun” and the Giant’s heartbreaking “Superman.” We explore why this film flopped at release yet became a beloved classic, its influence on modern superhero storytelling, and how its themes of identity, war, and compassion still resonate today. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/Agor711 Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Gregory!
Did that bathroom scene?
Was it everything you were remembering?
Yeah, it was.
Okay, good.
How are you feeling, buddy?
What did you think of the film?
I thought it was an amazing movie.
I could see why it's a stay with people.
I wonder if the movie just didn't make enough money back then.
It was something that kind of grew over time.
It was something very curious to learn.
Some Warner Brothers animation original movies.
I remember being a child and feeling like if it wasn't Disney at the time,
I wasn't that interested.
So I'm kind of curious to see if that is the case.
But in terms of a movie itself, I thought it was a lovely story about choice, about friendship, about family, and perception was probably the biggest theme of it all.
You know, I thought it was a great, it's about empathy.
I think it's a really, it's cool to take a story about a giant metal man.
and do a real human tale, the story of humanity,
with a backdrop of a bunch of classic sci-fi 1950s movies.
You know, I thought it was a really great movie, what do you think?
I thought it was a beautiful film.
I would also say another thing,
I thought the film did a great job of executing them
was identity, just like again, just mentioned many times,
just we are who we choose to be,
not what the world wants us to be,
and I just, I really appreciated that.
You know, it's something I, I,
would love all of us to follow it's easier said than done, of course.
But I thought that was a really beautiful sentiment that was laid out throughout the film.
I really liked Hogarth a great amount.
I thought, I forgot the actor's name that we saw there,
but I thought he brought, you know, the character just in general,
I thought he was just very warm and the curiosity he had and just his innocence as a kid
and the wonder and the adventure.
I just really appreciated him and his relationship.
of course with the Iron Giant
such, I think it was the cornerstone
in the heart of the film and I just
I really adored watching it. I think you
said it best. It was very
obviously we know this film came out before
How to Train Your Dragon but I think
it was very reminiscent and
you know touched upon all the things that we
adored from Terminator 2 and
how to Train Your Dragon very similar
vibes in that sense from
you know teaching this thing that
didn't really know what it was
and was literally efficient
out of water because it's in this place that it doesn't know who it is or where it is,
but then, you know, found this love and compassion from this really adorable and sweet child
that viewed it as more than just a robot, viewed it as an actual human being and taught
it as such and instilled in it the values that he knew to be what makes him a great human
being. And I just thought that was just such a beautiful sentiment. And I think that's a good
lesson, Greg, for us, just in general. Like, it's so important to be around
people who have incredible values and qualities like that because I think the people that you shape
yourself around instill those type of qualities in you as well. And I thought that was really
well executed in the film. I thought the villain too, I really hated his guts, which of course
was the point. Christopher McDonald, he always plays such a good villain. Shooter McAvins, one of my
favorite villains in the first Happy Gomer. And in this film, I think his, you know, the way he
was able to do, his paranoia was really stuck out to me, which I can understand.
You know, in the 1950s in the Cold War, I get it.
Like, I know it was a frustrating thing for us.
What the fuck is you doing?
You know what I mean?
But I get what they were going for.
And also, too, like, his character was, like, very dark, but it was also funny at times in a way, the way they were able to balance those two things.
So, yeah.
And also, I really like that, Dean.
I thought he was a, you know, he was a very type of, like, very kind of like Hogarth.
very, totally different from all the other people in the town.
And I think, like, they found some residency, you know, in each other, you know, through that.
I mean, also, too, I like how they embedded their qualities kind of into the Iron Giant,
you know, his classicalness and his arts and, you know, and their free spirit and stuff.
And then when it came to Hogarth, again, just all his good qualities as well.
And I just really appreciated just everything they instilled into the Iron Giant.
So it's just a beautiful film.
and Brad Bird, this is a very good start.
Director-wise, you would, watching this, I would never be like,
this is someone's first time directing a movie.
Like, he was really well-directed.
All the performances were great.
The man knew every shot.
He was very meticulous.
The animation was really beautifully done.
And what if I were to tell you, Greg, that the composer of the film
was the composer of all the lethal weapon films, Michael Kame?
I'm like, this man, it's very versatile.
Like, incredible.
I love the soaring score, like when it had to be bombastic,
during the action sequences, dramatic during the scenes
where we really needed to feel something.
I'm like, damn, I would never think this is the same guy
who scored the lethal weapon films.
But I just, again, as you can tell,
I love this movie.
It was great.
But I'd love to hear what you guys think
is one of your favorite animated films.
But we got some questions here.
So if you want to throw some questions our way
when we do our reviews,
you've got to become a member of Reject Nation,
or rather a royal reject.
So, yeah, we're going to get right into this.
So start off here with Beast Games contestant number five.
Thank you for being a Royal Reject for asking a question.
We appreciate it.
My question is now that you guys have learned that Vin Diesel is voicing the title character.
Is Vin Diesel?
Oh, I don't know that.
Out of which character do you guys think is the better one with barely any lines between each one,
the Iron Giant or Groot?
Best love to you and your family, Andrew.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
And to you, too, Greg.
uh great this is not an easy question uh what do you got buddy oh i think it's the iron giant
oh uh kind of uh kind of about a lot and if we're talking about a voice performance uh i would
there's an argument to be made that maybe group is is more challenging because you're limited
to only three words so you got that's a fair point you got to find more variety with that
in a much harder
challenge. But
I think
like the only time you really get to know
Groot is amidst an ensemble
in the first Guardians movie
and he's a presence in the other ones and there's the show
but he's mainly just kind of like cute
and fun. Whereas like the Iron
Giant here is a full-fledged
three-dimensional character. Not that
Groot isn't. It's that the Iron Giant is
one that starts off
from the POV of others and
is scary.
upon first sight, even our main character
who grows to love him
is scared of him at first
just from the size and scale
and he has to learn how to be the softest
thing around
in order to not instill fear
and he has to learn how to overcome
his nature as well
like a lot of this does seem to have
like some underscoring themes of
nature versus nurture like he's very
reactive to the weaponry
and he starts firing
and he has to learn to overcome that
through the power of being nurtured
and by the time he gets to the moment
where he was clearly designed to be in a Tomo
but he chooses to be a Superman at the end
and both orcs weirdly end with a sacrifice
for people
but the Iron Giant is one with
I think there's way more to do
and I just think by the sheer amount
of screen time and focus
the Iron Giant just edges it out.
I think Groot is going to be the more famous one
and the one that probably stands more of the test of time
just because of the popularity and the cuteness
and the toy accessibility and a bunch of other things.
Like Grude, I love Groot.
But Iron Giant, I think, is kind of easily
like a more of a cool character
who's also like a, it's not the lead,
but he is kind of the lead.
So, yeah.
No, you're right.
It's definitely more of an ensemble, and he's very limited to three lines.
But again, I love how expressive he gets to be, and Ben Diesel gets to, like, really show off the power of his acting skills when he's saying, I am Groot, because he has to say it so many different ways, and there's got to be so much subtext to the way he's saying I am Groot.
So that's a very difficult thing, even though not hard to memorize those lines per se, but you've got to say it in a certain way so that we, the audience, know exactly what you mean is I am Groot.
but yeah i do agree with you that you know the iron giant is definitely it's more of a fully fledged
character but i just want to focus more of that on vin diesel i i think like what he's able to do
with these uh characters that he's not like physically able to be in but just like he's voicing i just
the the way he's able to like fully embody them and like really become them even though he again
he's not there physically and it's just an incredible job like i was
crying tears like down my face for an animated character and the same thing for grude in the first
film as well so uh i think it speaks to you know the power of his performance and uh just the
versatility he has as an actor on just understanding like what is being asked of him and i just
really appreciate uh how incredible uh the range he has as an actor and i love both so much so
hard for me to put like exactly which one i love more but i do like all the points you were making
in regards to why you would pick
the Iron Giant. But I think they're both so well done
and I think Vin is incredible
in what he does in both of them. So thank you
so much for the question. We appreciate it.
Mike Joyce, do you think
that the Iron Giant
is Vin Diesel's
best role? Definitely not.
The Street Sharks commercial back in the mid-90s.
That was his best job. Go watch
those.
It's right
up there if it's not his best role.
I mean, it's hard to argue with whenever he says family
and is drinking at Corona with a lime
and that's pretty good too.
But yeah, this was probably his best.
I mean, again, like, the way he's just able to imbue this character
and his relationship with Hogarth
and just how he's able to just change and express himself
as the character and just, I would say,
this is probably his best role.
I loved his performance in this
and just the way he was able to shift tones
in his boys and the way he was able to learn
and I'd probably say it was this role.
What about you?
It's pretty clear.
I don't know his whole filmagra.
I don't think I've seen all of his films,
but I would say this is right up there.
No, I wouldn't say this is his best role.
I'd say it's probably the best character
he has participated in,
but I think 95% of the way this role works is because of the animation,
which Vin Diesel probably has absolutely nothing to do with.
I don't think Vin Diesel, like, has...
Ben Diesel probably has, like, 20 lines at most in this movie.
So he's, it's probably the best character he's participated in,
but I wouldn't say it's the best role he's done because of that fact.
It's really, like, so much of this goes to the, to the,
animation and not really the voice is important but um at the same time it's it's not so
particular to me to the point that somebody else couldn't have done it like you know like
it's not like i don't know robin williams is a genie or or um or or even ellen degenerous
is dory you know there's something more to this where it's like i get why vin diesel was cast
Vin Diesel was probably the best one for the role
but I'm not
really in the camp of
it must
100% be him
he's don't get me wrong it's like
not to say he's not amazing in it
but now I think my favorite
work of him live action
is out of the first Fast and Furious movie
or his supporting role in the movie
Boiler Room. I love that movie
I was thinking that actually in my head I'm like
kind of a toss between this
but he was great in Boyce and Boyleon.
A boiler room. That's a good movie. Go check that one out if you haven't already.
Giovanni Rubisky right or whatever you see. That was a good one.
Yeah. All right. Thanks for the question, Mike. We appreciate it.
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All right, Jay Rushden. What up, Jay?
like would you guys like to see
live action iron man or iron giant movie there
says it like shaggy
uh but i like to see a live action iron giant movie
hmm i've got thoughts Greg go for it
yeah uh so when it comes to a live uh action iron giant
this has been my stance just on remakes in general
if you have a story that's not going to copy and paste
the original but you're going to capture
all the things that made it special with some nuances and you're going to do do things that
you feel is captivating and compelling and immersive and it makes me not go in the first 20 30
minutes i've already seen this movie i know this scene i'm going to say some lines of dialogue i
already know i just don't want to feel that way if i watch it so i'd be down if you can come up
you know again uh you know pay homage capture the the the encapsulating in emotional moments for sure
I just don't want to see a shot-for-shot remake is all I'm trying to articulate here.
What about you?
I'd be interested if Brad Bird was doing it.
Because the thing that stood out to me with this direction,
with this being I think his first live action movie,
I mean, first feature film is I associate a lot of Brad Bird work with, like,
very impressive camera movement.
And this is something that is kind of like more of a family drama.
with a sci-fi backdrop, you know, and it's more simplistic in the way the direction is good,
which is perfect for the story they're telling.
Like there's nothing, there's some great shots in here, Donovan, or some great moments that look like paintings.
But for the most part, the direction is not the more action-oriented work that he's done
from like Mission Possible and Credibles, even Tomorrowland, which all have this sort of retro vibe to it
even his Mission Impossible has like a more of a throwback spy vibe than a lot of the other Mission Impossible movies do.
So clearly this is like the world and era that he loves to inhabit and put on display.
So I think it would be really interesting if Brad Bird actually did a live action version of it because, yeah, there's like some simplicity to it.
There's more things I think you could flesh out that maybe the animated movie just should have out of, like I do think the movie kind of misses the mark.
a little bit on fleshing out more of the relationship with...
Yeah, no, no, no, sorry, go ahead.
It's not the relationship with him and his mom.
And, like, that was just kind of very stereotypical,
and it felt a little surface where...
I don't feel like we need to have this whole thing about, like,
where's the dad and all that shit?
Like, it's all very much implied,
but I still feel like there was kind of missing some nuance
that I found myself kind of craving.
And I think it would have just actually elevated the movie more.
and the and uh but no i mean but everyone else in the movie like i think harry conic junior plays the guy
that's who it sounded like i was just uh waiting for some throwback line from independence day for him to
say but yeah it did sound like him a lot yeah it sounded like harry conic junior and like his
performance is great the thing though is with animation it's much easier to buy into the world
of this whereas i think when you're doing a live action there's there could be a lot of thought
process is happening of it looks real here it doesn't look real here it looks real here it doesn't
look real here but it's kind of it kind of creates a disconnect where you're even when you're
thinking it looks real you're thinking about how it looks real you know and it could be a little bit
harder to be absorbed into the moment of something so I don't really feel like we need to do a
live action movie but I would only be interested if Bradberg was the one
who would someone whose direction has um you know grown in a lot of ways uh what he might
what he thinks might be like casual but the movie's kind of perfect like it's almost a perfect
movie it's pretty much there yeah and uh getting that 1950s feel of then that'd be interesting
yeah he's all again as well but i i totally agree with you i i was thinking the same thing as
you was like i do like the mother-son relationship and they were being a little ambiguous we're
like, did the dad die? Did he leave? Like, what did happen? I didn't have to have it
answer, but I would have liked a little more fleshing out. Would have been just nice to know
or cool. It didn't make me not enjoy the movie as much as I loved it already, but it would
have been nice to know. But that is something of material that they can work with for sure.
That's not going to be, feel like copy and paste. Something else to do. So I completely agree
with you there because I was, that was in the back of my mind as we were watching. I'm like,
I'd like to spend just a little more time maybe, you know, with the mom and
and Hogarth, but I totally get why
a lot more of the focus was on him with
the Iron Giant, so no complaints
from me there. And I like that it's
PG, not G, because
if you're talking about live action, there's
moments that would translate
a lot more disturbing in live
action, like when
Kent is interrogating
Hogarth and
really putting his hands on him and stuff,
that would translate as really
violent and off-put, and
it's actually pushing a boundary here for an
animated movie with
certain moments that they do. I think
they have like one swear word in here and stuff
but like the, I mean the peril
of the army showing up will probably feel
more perilous and terrifying, but
you know, I like
that this movie actually embraces
a lot of the maturity and the true
historical fears
that were permeating
the world at the time and to make it like small
town. See what the small town
how they are
feeling what's going on in the bigger part
of the world I think just made it more interesting
and perhaps
a live action yeah I wouldn't be a good
one-to-one translation yeah no no
I totally agree with you I mean that fear and that
paranoia is real like people are thinking about
atomic bombs or missiles rather
coming down on you I mean that's
that's a scary thought for sure
like and to see like how that would be focused
upon in a live action film rather than
an animated film could be really dark
so it'd be interesting how that
translate but I think if they do live action
and they should really focus more on the X-Lax scenes.
We need a lot more bathroom scenes.
Anyways, let us know the comments.
Is that a film you'd like to see in live action?
Would you want Brad Berger director?
Who would you think would be appropriate to be directing the film?
Last question.
Andrew Nickerson.
Good name.
The Giants' journey, particularly when he chooses to be Superman
instead of Atama the Metal Menace,
is a powerful metaphor for the human capacity to choose our destiny.
rather than being defined by our pastor program.
Do either of you relate to this idea?
Is this story possibly more relevant today?
Do you want me to take this one or you got it?
Go for it.
Okay.
I would say this is extremely relevant,
especially in my current fucked up emotional,
you know, capacity that I'm dealing with right now.
As many of you know, what has happened in my life,
I'm not going to explain it for the umpteenth time.
I've spoken at nauseam what's going on in my personal life.
So I have made a decision in my life that I have two options and choices.
I can either sink or I can rise, you know, and I've decided that I need to put on my big boy pants and, you know, do what would make my father, you know, proud and that type of thing.
So I guess what I'm trying to articulate here is I'd rather be Superman than a Tomo, or I guess.
So, you know, I guess that's a weird metaphor to, you know, kind of compare the two situations for, but that's my.
analogy that I'm going to make for it like yeah because like this whole thing I've been
dealing with and I haven't even really had kind of having a deep conversation here but I
haven't really even had time to mourn I've been so busy with just dealing with a lot of
things that I can't even allow myself to process and grieve for what is happening but
again I'm deciding to like run into the fire with courage and strength rather than
sink into the water, you know,
sniveling and wheezing along.
So I think that's what my dad would want.
And I feel like that's more the Superman route than the Atamo way.
And that's the way I would resonate with this.
What about you, Greg?
Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's been relevant forever.
I don't know if it's more relevant today in terms of like a societal speaking point.
I think people might be able to actually ascertain it better now.
and perhaps adopt a better now, considering how much more there's emphasis on mental health and self-improvement and stuff like that.
So, yeah, but I've definitely had to change a lot over the years.
I mean, I've kind of grown up here.
When I first started doing this channel, I was at a very specific point in my life.
that was when my dad passed and I was you know secretly doing this out of a backhouse of my ex-girlfriend's place like it was a secretly for a reason like this it was a weird time in my life um and where I come from with my family and such I've had to unprogram a lot and intentionally shape the way I think and
about stuff and really go against my own subconscious thoughts and actively working.
I've had to train, I've trained my brain a lot to shape who I am internally.
Then external stuff started to follow, and that's kind of what the route of life always is for me.
There's a lot of stuff that doesn't come.
Most things I am and do do not come naturally to me.
I have to be very intentional.
and learning that the quotes of don't let the facts of your life become the excuses for your life
for things to change you have to change hearing those two specific things when I was like 19 years old
and now I'm 35 was the start of me changing and I you know there's a lot of things I've had to
definitely that I still obviously deal with.
with. And it's hard for me to hide because I value being honest that it's difficult for me to
hide when I'm clearly not in a good mood or something like that. And yeah, I feel like it's a
really important tale that absolutely I relate to this idea. That's why those kind of things make
me cry because being kind and all that is not really my natural state of mind. I'm much, my more
nature is more cynical and
depression
and
I have a history of self-harm
and so yeah there's a lot
of things that have
improved how I was
conditioned and I had to
brainwash myself
well I can unequivocally say you are one
of the kindest human beings who you have really put in the
work and it is shown so and I mean
that means a lot thank you. I'm really
mean it man yeah
thank you for the question that was really
Really, really thought provoking.
We appreciate it, Andrew.
Thank you so much.
Just really quick, Greg, I do want to share that, or go over this with you.
What do you think this film got on Rotten Tomatoes, critics?
95%.
And audience?
100%.
Wow, not far off.
A percentage off on the critics, and you were 10% off on the audience.
I got 100,000 plus people that compete with all the audience.
Yeah, you were pretty damn close.
Well, Greg, any final thoughts?
Yeah, what did it make?
Oh, yeah, I should have looked that.
I'm sorry.
I was just so drawn into your story there, but...
No, I'll type it in.
Okay.
Yeah, this movie did not make a lot of money.
Oh, my God, that's it.
That breaks my heart to see that,
because this movie deserved a lot of money.
Yeah.
I wonder what it was competing with at the time.
like wouldn't because I mean we've seen animated movies be very successful so I'm just very curious what didn't draw people into this film because I would have poor marketing by Warner Brothers oh yeah I mean at the time I remember at that time that like if you if you weren't Disney Disney kind of felt like they were gatekeeping all the good animated movies yeah yeah ironic because he found his biggest movie from Disney but yeah I think now now obviously Steve
studios congratulating Sony Pictures animation and freaking annihilating it.
So there was a time when it was like, uh, if it's not Disney, I'm a little skeptical.
That's a fair point.
Like there were other great Disney.
There were other great animated movies that were not Disney.
Of course.
But the association.
Yeah.
Dude, you know what really comes off besides this now?
You know what comes off the top of my head where I think like poor marketing, such a great movie.
You and, go check out the reaction of you, of Greg and Coy, rather, Galaxy Quest.
Yeah.
That was such a great movie.
So badly.
at it. I'm like, it makes me so sad, and this now makes me sad. But anyways, guys, if you stuck
with us this long, thank you so much. Greg and I really appreciate it. We love this film.
If there's any other animated films like The Iron Jider and just other animated films in general
that you'd like Greg, myself, any other members of the team to react to. We'd love to hear your
thoughts. Also let us know what you thought of this film. Is it one of your favorite animated films?
And yeah, take care, be safe. Remember, you are who you choose to be, not what the world wants you
to be.
The tiny community of Peel is situated deep in the woods of northern Wisconsin.
It's so small that it's easy to miss on a map.
Just scattered homes, gravel roads, and dense, silent forest.
It's a place where people choose for the quiet, the isolation in the distance.
A place where life moves at a very slow pace and secrets can stay hidden for a long time.
On the morning of Sunday, the 8th of March 2015, the stillness of Peel was interrupted.
At the Oneida County Emergency Dispatch Centre, the phone began to ring.
Before the operator could answer, the caller hung up.
It happened again and then again.
Three calls, all from the same number.
Then came a fourth call.
And then finally, there was a voice.
It was a little girl.
She grabbed the knife.
It was on the shelf, and she came after me with it.
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