The Reel Rejects - THE LAST OF US 2x03 Blind Watch Review! TLOU Season 2 Episode 3

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:07 oh and if you're listening to us on Apple or Spotify leave us some stars maybe five to start with. Never know. Anywho, gang how we feel in after another rip snorting episode of the happy go lucky uh you know nothing bad's going to happen today series i feel worse watching this than i feel watching handmade's tail and that's like
Starting point is 00:01:32 the most messed up i mean i hate feeling this way after watching a show here's what i'll say about it obviously it's an unbelievable show they're doing an incredible job everything sounds perfect everything looks perfect the actors are flawless the script the Dialogue, everything is amazing. I just feel like crapola. And even though it's always been the last of us and depressing or whatever, I felt like when we had Joel and Ellie, I felt love alive and hope. And as much as I love our new character, characters, I guess, all of them, because we did see a lot of them for the first half of the episode, which also felt like two seconds. I feel like crap when this dish ended.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I just feel like crap. Yeah, because our one little hope that we had was that if Elle goes off with Dina, that there is still this unspoken, somewhat romance, that we get a win somehow, that it's some sort of like happy distraction that we never would have gotten if Joel is still in the picture. Give us freaking something and then they don't, right? The sentence that is just a freaking killer is she's like, well, you're gay and I'm not. so tell me how the kiss was and then you know and there's still i still think it's really great direction slash writing to have dina sort of lean in and be like you don't even have to try to be a badass she
Starting point is 00:02:56 says i wasn't that high exactly i wasn't that high you everybody should look at you as the most dangerous person like all of these things and she she goes she's with her and their their banter is just like it was with her and joel and there's there's obviously a connection there that is leading the audience to go, why does Dina say that yet she's still playing with fire in regards to L? That keeps me hanging on because I just go, why is she saying it that way, leaning into her? Why does she off the cuff say I wasn't that high?
Starting point is 00:03:33 What's going on here? I'm very intrigued by that situation. But I absolutely agree with you, Rocks. I literally thought it was five minutes. It's like this episode came and went, I felt like I blacked out because really all this was was waking up to me being in absolute denial that Joel is gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And then, you know, Ellie getting free of the hospital, you know, love O'Hara. I don't have time to enjoy her as much because I'm just like, oh, my God, he's still dead. And then we visit him, right? And it's shot beautifully. It's a great golden hour shot and they're off and they're going. I like the line where she's like, I'm going to go kill Abby. Yep, that's what I want. I want Abby to die of slow death, but I just, right now, yeah, I'm not feeling great.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I thought the little win for me would just be, we don't know about Dina and Al. And right now, the what Dina said, I'm, that's where I'm at. John. Go ahead, John. Yeah, yeah. John rocking back and forth to soothe his pain right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's very fascinating the way that the feeling and the tone and the, yeah, the taking in
Starting point is 00:04:43 this show has adjusted like and again i do have to give some level of props because it is like a very permeating feeling that these last couple episodes have left you with and it's very effective in getting the point across you know and putting you into the shoes of these characters and it's interesting when you think like okay so this is something like what abby and her crew must have been feeling life you know and like uh in the wake of you know what joel did to you know the fireflies back of the hospital and all that stuff and to you know this chance potentially for some kind of cure um yeah like it's it's a very interesting episode this because yeah it is like a bit more interstitial it is like kind of like the it almost feels like the first two episodes were like
Starting point is 00:05:29 a big old prolog and now this was sort of like act one you know uh even though i you know i'm sure a more structure-minded person would would probably correct me and so actually no But, yeah, this is kind of how it feels. It's sort of like this episode is now we are starting out on the actual journey of the season. And we are getting into, you know, the place we're going to spend the actual lion's share of our time. What do you mean by that, though, John? Like, do you think that we, the majority of this season is going to be Dina and Ellie in Seattle? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I'm not saying I don't think that. I'm just curious. I don't expect her to find them and kill Abby, like, to next. episode or anything like that like I have to I don't know I like I have no idea kind of what to expect and yeah part of it feels like with the way this is moving and the fact they were already to Seattle because I can't remember which one of you said it but yeah it did feel like oh this will take longer to get there and there'll be more random shit happening along the way that was me but I think we all agreed it just we were we were in Wyoming and then we were in
Starting point is 00:06:33 Seattle yeah yeah and we've been jumping through time there was no obstacles to get there like literally zero yeah yeah which is just which is interesting And, I mean, you know, certainly the stuff with the, you know, the folks wandering through the woods, this nomad tribe, you know, wandering through the woods was interesting. Yeah, who the hell is the prophet? That's a good question. Right. Is she going to pop up? No, they've been dead, we heard.
Starting point is 00:06:58 They've been dead. But even then I'm like, well, I don't know. Until we understand truly, like, is this a person? Is this some kind of machine or apparatus or some kind of other naturally occurring phenomenon? on like any time we're in a situation like this and someone's talking about a profit you're talking about the hammer people right yeah yeah I mean it would stand to reason that this is just a person but at the same time I'm like I don't know you know you're in the post apocalypse and this is again a group of very specific looking folks with a very
Starting point is 00:07:28 specific what looks like set of rules and rituals you know the garb the hammers all that and they certainly seem like a more you know faith-minded superstitious you think we're going to hear more about them or you think that's the last we have of them the last of them. Really? No, I didn't say. I'm curious because we're now with the wolves. And seemingly we just wiped out every single Joker-faced hammerhead.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So I don't know whether we're going to do flashbacks and learn more about what all that was about or whether that was just to show us like women, kids, they don't give a crap, wolves will cut you. It does beg the question, I think, yeah, of that philosophical touchstone we don't. kill people who can't defend themselves and part of my brain in this moment goes well she little girl had a hammer that is like the logic someone would use um totally i don't know i mean because we didn't see them my guess is that like uh this isn't what abby and her crew are trying to do and maybe the wolves themselves have gone awry in their own way in the past five odd years or whatever like part of me because again because we didn't see them i feel like the
Starting point is 00:08:39 ideas we're supposed to think like oh man whoever the wolves that killed these people like you know we don't actually get a glimpse at them we just see from their perspective so i think they want you to think oh man abby and her crew went ham on these dudes and they're so threatening and formidable and they don't stand on their code and so i feel like that's got to be a mislead like it didn't even look like they fought back it looked like they were all lying their face up like they'd been placed that way which was the confusing part right like it didn't look like we killed them all in the road and we left them there. It looked like we've moved their placement. Yeah. They were bleeding from the nose, a lot of them, which made me think, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Did you guys take something? Like, was this like a, we just don't know. So I do think we're going to see them again. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's made to make you question and made to, you know, throw you off and gets you wondering more than it is made to like suggest, you know, I don't think you can extrapolate an answer out of this yet. Because, you know, it's all. sort of adding to our perspective on who the wolves could potentially be. You get this other group and then you're just like, who else is out there in this world? And then, you know, you see Abby, Ellie and Dina, you know, kind of coming across the aftermath of this. And I'm sure that they are going to, you know, ascribe this to the wolves in by extension, Abby.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And this will fuel their conflict that much more and then maybe come to find like, oh, this is how we are. This is what we do. I don't know. I think, though, definitely this is an episode designed to create more questions and more uncertainty. more tensions as we arc into this next phase of the story because this is the beginning of a new chapter three months later this new journey begins i feel oh go ahead just two yes or no questions for you guys yes or no yes or no do you think that this season has been a good season so far i mean good well done that's what i got but only just because i was ripped up from
Starting point is 00:10:39 the last one so yours is a maybe what is yours yeah i think it's kind of too soon to tell it's like all the work is really good everyone's doing a good job and like regardless of what the events are i feel like the way they've been writing thus far has been pretty fleshed and pretty i didn't get a yes or no from either of you guys because my next question is do you are you liking it i'm appreciating it so far it's it's very much designed to where you can't i don't think i could give a yes or no until i've seen the whole thing, which I think is more fun in some ways, more interesting. It's rare that I encounter this situation in full where I like, I've never, I've rarely watched a show where as of these last two episodes, I'm like, I could not begin to tell you if I think that this is like the
Starting point is 00:11:25 right thing to do for the narrative or if I think, I think it's still good TV and then I'm still compelled and I am affected by what they've been doing, even if that it means being upset over, you know, Joel and various other things. And I think they're, smartly kind of using both that lingering sense of dismay and hurt to also then coat the mysteries that are arising and the question marks because, you know, all of us are certainly in LSU's shoes, wanting, you know, justice to be served and, you know, wanting everyone to approve like, nah, send a team out there. These are our people, you know, we would want, you know, Joel would have done this for any of us, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:12:05 my answers are yes that I think this is really good season I don't know my answer to if I'm liking it or not because like that one is harder because I can't believe the feelings I'm feeling right now I agree it's like I'm enjoying it for for the art for the sake of obviously what they're doing they're doing something right in the fact that I literally felt like I blacked out in that episode felt like five minutes yes they're putting us in a position to feel the way we feel. They're being very intentional about it. And if we are sitting in this,
Starting point is 00:12:41 then they've done their job and they've done an outstanding job at that. With the running and with the direction. Yes, and I believe they want us sitting here as such. Yeah. So you have done a good job at that, but you may also, yeah, may get some backlash from people who are
Starting point is 00:12:57 absolutely pissed and being like, F this, I'm out. And I'm not there. I'm like, this pulled me in a little bit more, but you knew what you were doing intentionally by still not even giving us one little glimmer of freaking hope like with dina and l except you kind of still do and also i think that they did a good job of making the profit people the hammer people so incredibly different with with scars on their faces that people are joining this like this group and that the wolves seem to me in one shot
Starting point is 00:13:33 like a Nazi regime. That's exactly what they set him up to be. And do you see how orderly? Why have you said that a few times? Because I think that the wolves have gone off in their own and they are not now following rules where we don't kill people that don't have a weapon. I think that they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:55 if you aren't a wolf or a firefly and you try to come to Seattle, plan on dying, plan on your death. This is our area, and we're going to freaking watch out for it, like a Nazi regime. And if you're not one of us or don't decide to turn yourself over to one of us, bang, bang. Well, okay, so the Nazi regimes are conquerors. Do you feel like the wolves are going out and trying to conquer? So they're not just protecting their home.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You think that they're going out and they're trying to take more territory and more interesting? I do. I think it's like sort of the opposite of the Prophet Hammer people who remind me of of Latter-day Saints, Mormons, back in the day, Oregon Trail, right? They were trying to get to Utah. They killed a lot of people while they were trying to get there in the name of whatever they call their person. Joe or Joseph. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I don't know. So you think there's more of them? You think there's more of the hammer people somewhere else? I think there is. And I also think that it's the same thought process behind the wolves. that we're going out and if you don't become one of us, like we're fireflies, you took us out, you thought you were going to take us out,
Starting point is 00:15:11 not so much. I'm curious what, so if the wolf pack led by Abby, you guys know how Ellie pitched to everybody like, hey, I need 16 people and we need to go out and get vengeance, and they voted it down, I wonder if Abby pitched to all the wolves, yo I need five people like because we we saw the beginning of it but she was like I and we're
Starting point is 00:15:37 going to take it as long as it takes right they were like yeah you know like I wonder what the rest of the wolves think about what Abby and her crew was just able to accomplish right whether they were like hell yeah go get them or whether they didn't know or like what the deal with that was you know because those five years that it took them right we got to Seattle in one episode it took her fought in a beautiful Manta. I know, right? Reject Nation, January 25th of this year, I weighed 218 pounds.
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Starting point is 00:19:13 Might be. You know, it's like a little Easter egg was left behind, and they're like. I guess the question then becomes, because homie's there, the guy, Danny Ramirez, is there. is there so he can't like it seems like the rest of the crew wasn't maybe on the exact same page as Abby or you know given what she was doing to Joel everyone in the rooms and be like I don't know about this and that suggests that at least like the rest of them have some kind of unity of mind or did five years prior no in the room when she's killing Joel no no I know I'm just saying they haven't seen their people in five years so we don't know what they've experienced the rest of the wolves we don't know what they've experienced in five years because yeah. When they left is who they are, you know? Yeah. And so at least as of the Danny Ramirez character, he's not bothered by this.
Starting point is 00:20:02 So either he was already leaning in that direction. Maybe they all were. I'm saying, but I guess I bring that up to say that if Danny Ramirez was part of the group of people in that room with Joel going like, oh man, I think this is going a little too far, I could see how he might get back
Starting point is 00:20:20 and suggest that the rest of them are kind of on whatever page he's on, and that might be a different page than Abby. And so then we might just only get Abby as sort of this, you know, counter to whatever the wolves have become presence, and maybe that will create some kind of means for... Interesting.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Something else to happen other than just a simple revenge mission and stuff. I don't know. Like, it's good, because it's giving you all these things that you can look at and, you know, wonder about and extrapolate on. Certainly thought-provoking. It gives you an... enough to chew on where you can plausibly be like, well, maybe it's this or maybe it's that. And I think that's, you know, a nice thing in and of itself.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Because, yeah, I don't know. And it seems like Abby is certainly the kind of person to lend herself to some level of fascist rule of thought anyway, you know. But at the same time also seemed like somebody who, in a twisted way, did have some kind of adherence to that way of doing things that she talks about to Joel. I don't know. I'm very curious because the way, again, they drew all those characters up till now has been very sort of earnest and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I feel like they're doing a good job of setting up a bunch of things that you're just supposed to be wondering about and I think, yeah, it's like the marching of the soldiers through the street and all that stuff and they've got these big military vans. Like, you know, it's a good enough
Starting point is 00:21:44 of an immediate threat to what Dina and Ellie are doing but also makes you wonder, yeah, like just given what the images look like am I supposed to be taking an even greater sense of ominousness from what these guys not only are physically capable of what they believe in. Guys, I just realized something.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And today, when Tommy says very specifically to Ellie, we don't go, when Ellie is like, he would have gone after him if this happened to somebody else. And he said, we don't go after people who, the killers, we go after people who are still alive. And I don't see Tommy not coming after. Ellie and Dina. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Especially because he just said that to her. Yeah. We go after people who are still alive. Yeah. I don't think there's a shot in hell that Tommy knows that she's out there and he doesn't go. And we already have painted this whole story with Dina and Jesse. I definitely think that we, right now, and not that four people isn't outnumbered, but I wonder if the 16, they get their 16 because they put, Maria approves it because
Starting point is 00:22:51 is now they're not going after the killer. They're going after their own if they're worried about them, you know? Well, also Seth said, well, what's her nuts is sympathetic to the cause? Yes. Seth will obviously have to tell Tommy. It'll spread because he's going to be like, where the F are they? You have to tell me now. And that may be if he's going, we got to help him. They can't go alone.
Starting point is 00:23:13 So I think, you know, maybe they will get close to the number that they originally wanted. It's just interesting that we just heard Tommy say. we go after the people who are still alive. So it's like, that's his line in the sand. Gosh, man, yeah. It's fun. Like, it's fun at least to have all this to wonder about, even if it has been, again, if there's a Paul cast over everything,
Starting point is 00:23:35 I'm still enjoying the sort of like being engrossed in wondering what's about to happen and being, you know, caught up in all these little details. Clearly me too. And clearly, there are too. I just, I'm conflicted internally. Yeah. And it's, I feel like that's the sign of a good show. Like, I think a lot of the most striking shows are good at giving you not what you want,
Starting point is 00:23:57 but what is ultimately dramatically the best for the overall story. And I could certainly see a case for that happening here. And yeah, like, I got to imagine Tommy would get back out there in some capacity. And, yeah, I don't know. It's, it's, this was an episode that went by and was was paste. It's weird. This has this quality where I'm like, this is. taking its time in the moment, but it also does move.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It's paced in such a way where when an episode finishes, you are like, oh, damn, we're already done. And so, yeah, it's like, even though, again, the emotional adjustment is, I don't know, I think they've created something very striking because the emotionality, like, really rings out and it really stays with you. But they're also moving in what feels like a graceful pace that allows you to, again, get these little nuances and stuff, but also feels like it is kind of. kind of, I don't know, it's weird. It's like even though I'm surprised that they're already at Seattle, for example, I'm not upset about that yet. Sometimes the map can feel too small in ways that are bad. Thus far, you know, we've done a couple time jumps this season, but it still has me and it still has me sort of like, okay, let's see where this goes. And I'm not really, I don't have too many red flags up about this decision or that decision minus just being generally dismayed about the crazy shock with Joel.
Starting point is 00:25:16 What's the distance from Jackson Hole to Seattle? I'm doing some Googling, guys. There's definitely some, yeah, Wyoming to Washington. Because they're in Jackson, right? Don't they keep saying? Yeah. Jackson Hole? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Or something like that. And how many Jackson holes are there? Anyway, and I do like that this is a show that draws a certain amount of nuance for us to chew on and wonder about because I think Dina and Ellie are a great example of that. Whereas Dina says certain things and her behaviors suggest other things. and you're not really certain which is which is which and some people like it's I don't know it just feels alive in that way where you're like I don't know she certainly seems like she's flirting but maybe she's just that kind of person and her normal mode is just comes across flirty unintentionally you know here we go guys it's 870 miles oh that's not that far it is very far that would be 14 hours in a car that would be 76 hours on bike 317 by foot and this it's not like all the roads are open right I mean that I mean that it's not I mean I guess it's not a week it's a third of the way across the country they did a montage yeah they did no I'm actually really glad that they didn't show us the whole journey for the most part because I did watch all of the walking dead I do tend to watch every apocalypse show and what they always do is they break two people off and then we see all of the issues with them getting somewhere and then the last thing we do we do to see them finally get there and then the season's over.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah. And so I kind of like that they were like, we're here. We're here. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, that didn't bother me. It's just funny because I didn't expect it. Me neither. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And it's interesting the way that they do stuff that makes you remember this is a post Walking Dead world. There are things that do remind me anyway. And I think us of The Walking Dead. And then it's interesting to note the way that they separate themselves from that show. But did this, did the video game come out, the second video game come out before The Walking Dead? I don't know when the games
Starting point is 00:27:18 dropped in relation to the comics. I would say the games probably come after the comics. Before the Walking Dead comics? The games, I think, would probably have to have come after the Walking Dead comics, but I am not certain of that. My guess would be that the game
Starting point is 00:27:34 would have, well... And the Walking Dead did take from the comics for the first little bit, but then they really deviated for a lot of stuff too. I feel like it's got to be a lot tighter for the proximity between Walking Dead the show and Last of Us the video game but even that I'm not 100% sure about it
Starting point is 00:27:50 I mean the last of us I'm doing some Googling I think came out sometime in the 2000s if not the early 2010s maybe I'm trying to think what generation of games we were but great atmospherics too like you can really feel every environment you can really feel just the weight of travel even if we are kind of moving in the story
Starting point is 00:28:07 relatively quickly from place to place and last of us the initial video game came out in 2013 The second one came out in 2020. Yeah, it took a long time, yeah. I had no idea. Wow. That's way after.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I didn't know when these games were. That's way after the Walking Dead comics. And then, yeah, when did Walking Dead the movie or the show premiere? Let's see. I was going to say, that's got to be right around here. 22? What? No, no, no, way before that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 20. There's been 10. I watched 10 seasons of this show. Oh, the Walking Dead. I thought you said this show. No, yeah. I was like, you're on the money. 2010.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Okay, so the Walking Dead show. Okay. So yeah, both iterations precede the game. Yeah, that's interesting. Because I was thinking, I thought the game was, this game was so long ago. I was very wrong on that. But I should have known because I, whatever, anyway, that I thought that the Walking Dead probably borrowed from these games. But clearly, this, this does borrow a lot from the Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It does seem with some of the shots and even with some of the, like, dynamics. Kind of cool. And the walking dead borrows from every other apocalypse thing. Every other apocalypse is like, you know, that's what you're supposed to do. There's only, there's only so many ways you can divide people up in a show like this. And I guess it's nice that at least they haven't, I think after a while, the Walking Dead falls into this mode where you're like, okay, so the pattern of a lot of these episodes is going to be working up here and these two guys. And then these two guys and then these two guys and then eventually some of them are going to kind of get together here and there. And then maybe there's a zombie attack.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But you can kind of feel just the cycle of like, okay, cut to another person sidling up to somebody. else to have a convo and I like that you know like I don't mind characters talking that's the drama the juice but this doesn't feel structured in the character scenes the same way some of the Walking Dead does to me
Starting point is 00:29:56 but yeah I mean it's weird it's yeah it's it's leaves this lingering feeling where you feel like you haven't quite arrived at the thing to say but at the same time like I think they are killing it and they are making for a very unique and gripping TV experience and I think that's all you can really ask for and it's fun to be here
Starting point is 00:30:13 to really feel especially like we're here at the mercy of each next reveal you know and again doing our best to shield from spoilers and all that stuff like it does really feel like damn I'm just on the hook you know and they've got us on the hook
Starting point is 00:30:30 which I think is the ultimate you know signifier of like yeah a job well done so far you did good kid you did good so yeah here's hoping that better things prevail in Seattle here's hope that uh you know jesse i don't know just i want good things for jesse i want good things for ellie and here's hoping jol's still alive
Starting point is 00:30:52 yes there's always hope rossed his hand reaches up to the thing yes we didn't see him uh somebody else's body's in that bag we don't know yeah exactly there was actually a joel doppelgamer that he got to go out on uh you know that particular patrol that day and joel himself was actually off on a top secret mission. He got picked up in the same helicopter that picked up Rick in that one episode when he went away for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:20 This is the best zombie soap opera I've ever seen. I don't know. And last thing I was say, I do appreciate, you know, like that guy was shitty, Seth was shitty. But I like the way that they've handled that too because he does seem like at least a nuanced character, even if that is part of his soul somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And there must have been some reason why he said what he said. But the way that he has been sort of, attempting to atone for it and what the actor brings to it speaks to another just instance of that sort of gray area nuance of like yeah maybe there is some shitty stuff about this guy but this guy seems like in his heart of hearts he wants to help maybe unless he again it is unless he's sending them out to die but it seems like he is trying to atone somehow i think so because people can be told two totally different people when they drink and he did say i had too much you drink and sometimes people can flip a freaking switch i don't think it had as much to do with
Starting point is 00:32:13 the drinking honestly i and i i do think that was probably in his soul and he doesn't want it to be yeah but i what i really think is that this is a message to all of us always about like people who were not politically aligned with sometimes are the people who will save like who will show up for you like when you are in your worst scenarios sometimes people who you have no you feel you have nothing in common you guys view the world completely differently everything you voted for different people your opinions on progressive or conservative matters are different all of that but if you end up in the hospital they're the one bringing you cake right like so i do think that they were kind of showing us a little bit there like this is a very very angry man who said something that
Starting point is 00:32:58 at at the best was rude at the worst was homophobic right yeah yeah and yet when she needed somebody this was the only person who showed up with the things so it is an interesting lesson i'm not exactly sure if we'll see more of that but i i do think that that is uh something of these times for us to think about absolutely well gang whatever you're thinking about lead us leave it for us down in the comments that we will eventually check once we are well and firmly out of spoiler territory who knows when that'll be if this show goes four seasons or more. Maybe we'll never get to read another comment as long as we live for fear
Starting point is 00:33:40 of last of us spoilers. But for right now, this is the last of this review. Be well and we'll catch you next week. Cheers. Mikhail, if there was a place where I would like to be bogged down
Starting point is 00:34:00 or hiding out when there's an epidemic and infection going on. Yeah. it's Switzerland oh no not Sweden no you failed mcale you were supposed to make a case for your people not happening all right Switzerland is more popular it's a little bit more pretty I don't even know what Sweden looks like I bet it's a dumping ground for infected it's where Switzerland sends their trash how many people walk into Sweden being like this isn't Switzerland Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Wrong Scandinavian sounding name. All the time. So, no. No, it ain't going to be there. But in all seriousness, if you were infected, I'd gladly put you down. I want you to know that. I would gladly. A little stab to the head.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I would be sad. I would be sad about it, but I guess we would have to. Oh, I wouldn't be sad at all. I feel like that's what he'd want. That is true. Mikhail would want us not to have the infection spread on his County. He's a very polite-seeming guy. Why would he want us? Why would he want the opposite?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Mikhail, listen, man, I'd be happy to kill you. So even if, like, we're talking, like, scenario of, you know, a fake infection out there. But if there's something more real, like a common cold. Oh, yeah. And you just don't like the cough anymore. I gladly fly to Switzerland and then take a car to travel over to Sweden. And there's no way I'm flying into Sweden. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Do they even have any pavements or airports or, you know, infrastructure? See, John, speaking the right language. No, then I would gladly, you know, put you down if the scratchy throat was causing a little too much problems. So much love. Happy rest of the year.

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