The Reel Rejects - THE LAST OF US Episode 6 - Review & Breakdown | HBO | "Kin"

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

SO MANY LAST OF US PART 2 GAME EASTER EGGS! TLOU Episode 6 Reaction, Breakdown, Ending Explained, & Spoiler Review featuring DINA, Joel & Ellie (Pedro Pascal & Bella Ramsey), Jackson town for The Last Of Us Part II, Gabriel Luna (Tommy), scene by scene differences +recreations,  & MUCH MORE! NOTE  - Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions!  https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects  - POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!!   #TheLastOfUs #thelastofushbo #TheLastOfUsEpisode6 #EndingExplained #Episode6 #TrailerBreakdown #TheLastOfUsBreakdown #endingexplained #TLOUEpisode1 #TheLastOfUsEndingExplained #EpisodeBreakdown #HBO #EasterEggs #LastOfUs #Theories #TLOU #Joel #Ellie #Clickers #Sarah #Bill #Frank #thelastofuspart2    - Support The Channel By Checking Out Our Bomb A** Merch:  http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch  - Follow Andrew On Social Media: https://twitter.com/agor711 https://www.instagram.com/agor711/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

wow shit job well job well done so much to talk about holy balls and can't talk about the future yeah we got to be careful we say but holy shit that was amazing the short version is if you've if you've played both games you'll know why we were getting excited at certain things and a certain appearance by what was clearly a cameo of a character which we won't go into because yeah i mean i think the the main presumption that a lot of people have had even for those i haven't played the game is like they're just going to do the first game so to see so much like we've seen like things that are like oh this is thematically pulled over from the second game this was like oh this doesn't happen until the second game like a lot of this doesn't happen till like way later

this is kind of insane to see this all brought like they're really setting it up and it does make sense to me to cover some of that and like as much as i love this episode i i really did love this episode while it you know was light on action no infected whatsoever i still i do there's one criticism i have that i'm going to reserve uh i will say it it's not a spoiler of criticism There is one criticism that I have, and it's not like, oh, the game did this, why didn't you? It's something that I genuinely feel like I would have had, even if I hadn't played the game. And I'm curious, but I don't know, I could be wrong about that. I am curious to see if other people who haven't played the game will have this feeling.

But regardless, as this episode went, I thought it was so great to keep it focused on the core wounds of both of these characters. primarily Joel you know like seeing the this has been a big journey since episode one for him to try to get to Tommy and when he meets up with him like in in the game itself it's it's relatively light you know it's not they're like hiding out of a dam essentially yeah and they got plans for stuff but this but to see this is a much more this this this hits a more that's why I like the change because it it emotionally hits a lot harder when you're like I didn't even bother to inform my brother about this safe haven we have this civilization we are prospering in we've got animals like literally this is the most this this city represents the closest thing to functioning as normal to before the outbreak ever happened I'm I'm married I am having a kid and my brother I didn't bother to tell about any of this you know and he's so traumatized by everything he's been dealing with that he can't it's like you can just see the the the array of

emotions that pedro pascal's going through as all this information is being received the the anger that can be that can be happening from not being informed or being excluded from all this information because like one way to register like my brother doesn't care to tell me about any of this oh because of your wife whatever you know what do you view me as am i that much worse of a person and then also the life that he's having is the life that Joel has repressed you know because you never thought something like Jackson could be possible and everything with Sarah that entire lifestyle is a thing he has just been in been in denial over and anything that comes close to the surface of it just sends him into a panic attack state and I thought breaking that down in this episode where he's just coming head on of having to leave Ellie behind a moment where Ellie could be killed and he freezes up having to confront his brother all of all that coming to the surface to then get to a transitional

point for this character where clearly he's being more you know playful and friendly and open now with Ellie just you could see it after the whole horse ride over to Colorado he's just so much more lifelike you know he's

smiling and making jokes and opening up there I wanted to be a singer and all that even different than the beginning of this episode so I thought like as a Because while they do, they do skip over a lot in the game, like they do. Like, don't get me wrong. They do, there's some stuff I would have liked to have seen the whole damn sequence, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, this was a nice surprise. Even the, you know, the escape from the university. Yeah, it was much more shorter in this version. Yeah, whereas in the game, it is very much like you have to go through some bad guys. And then when he gets injured, he gets like throw, he gets knocked through a window and lands on a pipe. he falls off the guardrail and then lands on a like a pipe thing that's sticking out yeah okay yeah it wasn't a window yeah i just remember that up on the floor and he fell which i'm sure in like a real life live action it might be like would he have survived that yeah well i thought that came too but

yes that's what i mean um but it's much more intense and ellie's having to like really help him to escape where here they take a a much more subdued approach uh to it um but that's not even my complaint but before i even say what that is andrew first i want to give myself a little pat on the back i made that joke about the very beginning of my intro where i said you know they're on their journey to mordor and then we got a couple of fakeouts at the ending where if you've seen return of the king you know exactly what i'm talking about that movie's the king of fakeouts when it comes to endings i agree with just the amount of traveling too feels like very lord of the rings yeah yeah well of course of course i just meant that it's just interesting i make that point when an episode has

multiple endings it felt it felt like but uh not a complaint right just an observation but i agree with everything you said i felt like you know the changes that were made here or not even changes so much like the more it was just a lot more emotionally drawn out and a lot more dramatic like yes you did feel that joel was afraid of you know being that protector that ellie needed in the game but here it's a lot more dramatic a lot more drawn out especially that scene he has with tommy like i really felt a lot more emotionally invested in that scene not that i don't love that scene in the game. It's really good in the game, but it's a lot more lighter in tone. Whereas this, it's a lot

more dramatic. You feel like, because they set up the whole PTSD moment, it really lends credence to the moment that we get here. And it's just, again, just to clarify, you're talking about when he, when Joel does open up and is asking Tommy. Tommy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Greg, listen. Great.

Sorry, I was distracted by something that was popping up on the YouTube on the page. You're good. I'm just, I'm just, I appreciate it with you. But yes, no, I just, I appreciate that. And I got it, everyone who acted in the, especially Gabriel Luna. Damn, that man just sounds so much like Todd. It's just, it's ridiculous. And I'm almost thinking like Jeffrey Pierce is dubbing for him, but I know he's not, but just so much. It's really incredible. But I really got to tip my cap to Pedro Pascal and belly.

She is the level of depth that she goes to when it comes to emoting and just the, the emotional balance that she has as an actress, it's just incredible. Like the scene, for instance, just at the very end where Joel falls over straight out of the game. And you know, you do get Ellie's pleas of Joel trying to wake up in the game. But again, here, it's, I like that they draw it more out. Like, you really feel it here in the show, like, you know, where she starts crying and like saying, I don't know where to go. I don't know what to do. And again, that was in the game. But again, it's just drawn out. It's more dramatic here. And I really feel it, you know, emotionally to my core, a lot more here, which I appreciate. And again, yeah, this episode,

no clickers, no infected. I mean, a little sad about that always whenever we don't get infected. But again, with what we were dealing with from, you know, Joel's perspective in terms of the PTSD. Yeah, they did, you know, again, that was touched upon in the game where he had a fear of, you know, not being able to protect Ellie. But again, the way it's portrayed here by Pedro Pascal, I mean, just again, the level of depth that he goes through as an actor. It's just, it's really, really incredible.

And I just didn't think he was able to go to that level. And I just really appreciate it. And again, just seeing Jackson, I was not expecting that. and a certain possible character, or not possible, a certain character that we did get. That was awesome. I thought there was going to be another one

that I think you know who I'm talking about that we didn't get. But that was really cool that they did that. And, yeah, no, this episode, I mean, if you're a fan of the game, I really feel like most fans of the game are really going to love this episode, give or take a couple little things

that they skipped over in terms of the dam and the University of Eastern Colorado, but for the most part, and obviously the way they figured out that they're at St. Mary's, well, said it in Utah, rather i'll just say that the fact that they found that out on a map it was a little different in the game where they found out on a voice recorder from a guy uh one of the doctors or something uh the fireflies

that was still uh that had died there not a big deal i don't think that's going to bother too many gamers so i think this what i loved again about this episode is the expansion uh the the the good changes that they made but also like you're going to in my opinion you're going to appease uh gamers with this episode but you're also going to appease people who haven't played the game in just like good damn television and I think this episode really did a good job of that. When you talk about an episode that it was more on the dramatic side and less on an action side

when you're thinking of something in a post-apocalyptic world and I also too got to give credence and applaud to the cinematography and the locations in this episode and the way they used the snow in the background and all in the foreground and all that was so damn beautiful. I mean these locations

were freaking amazing. It had a great sense of atmosphere throughout the entire episode and you've got to hear more the tracks from the games as well implemented throughout yeah i thought this has helped build out the world even more which is excellent and you know i i do want to speak i do really want to speak on from like game comparison in a way in a way it's very complimentary to the show because the there are certain scenes in here that are yeah that that that scene is in the game but when it occurs in the game is very

different in the placement. I'm not just talking because they had like a bunch of other stuff or something like that. It's the lead into the scene is so different that it re-contextualizes a lot of the scenes. Yep. Like for example that moment where you're talking about

with where Tommy learns about Ellie, that happens pretty early, much earlier on when he does reunite with him. At the dam. And in the game he's not even searching for Tommy you know he's not even like looking for him right no they were looking for Tommy they were no but he left for he was looking for Tommy for to get to the fireflies

right yeah well because he wanted to drop Ellie off at Tommy so he could take her to the fireflies yeah but like I mean in the in the game it's it's more so they they have had a falling out of sorts correct whereas in the show he's like I have heard from my brother I'm worried about him I need to go find him correct that's the difference with with this correct that's the difference with with this. Correct. That's correct. He enters here worried. Like, I don't know what's happened to him, and I'm afraid he might be dead.

Yes. So they even have that scene that's not in the game at all with that Native American couple at the top of this, which I thought was a great scene, by the way. But when he does tell him, you know, they have that conflict first where he doesn't open up to him, where they get into a fight, and then he eventually tells him. And whereas in the game, he still remains a lot more hardened, but gets a little soft here it's it boils down to he feels like he's not good enough i feel like she will die in my hands which i think adds just so much more weight to this character development of a guy who's having

to overcome so much rather than i'm just more than just i'm afraid of connection which he all which pager pascal already brings to this character it's a fear that he will repeat the same mistake that happen with Sarah, which I thought made it so much more impactful and where to place it in this episode and with the context of how they built Jackson is going to be a dad, I think makes him telling Tommy and asking that favor of him so much stronger. And even the scene where Joel and Ellie, where they do have that confrontation where he's like, you're not my daughter, that whole scene. So much of that is like, I'm like, I'm sure most of that was just like dialogue from directly from the game.

Yes, it was. But when that occurs in the game, the lead into that is very different. Much different. Whereas here, it's a lot more of a solemn, like we're going to say bye, she learns about it, and then, you know, she's like her chilling in a room.

That's not the case in the game, right? And it emphasizes the dramatic moment more, and because you had the scene prior, where you're seeing that he's not just being some hard, an asshole who's like, I just, no, I, I got to treat her like she doesn't matter to me. Where he, because I don't think in the game, he doesn't tell her, I care about you. Does he tell, does he say that line? That's the part that stood out to me, where he says, do we even care about me?

And he says, of course I do. Is that in the game? That's the part that stood out to me. If it is, I'm not remembering right now, but I don't recall that in the game. Because other than that line, I'm like, everything else sounded like it was from the game. For the most part, everything else was. Yeah, because he's coming in to that scene already much more vulnerable versus how he was in the game.

So, you know, like when he gets hurt by what Ellie's saying, then his defense mechanism rises back up and says that. And I like the way the context is displayed here a little bit more, actually, because some have criticized the Pedro Pascal portrayal. I've heard some of it being a little bit softer. yeah no he's not as much of a hardened asshole he's definitely got more of the depression wearing in his eyes people skipped over the scene where he was beating the crap out of that guard with uh yes but i i like i really love what they do uh for i really love what they do i get the criticism that i had was i wish because because of the fact that which you because one thing that this show does that's really cool is that's really cool to me because a lot of those moments where you see it's getting excited like when they're on the

horse you're still doing you're still doing gameplay in those scenes when you're playing the game right so it's a tracking shot of behind so you're not actually it's not a cutscene but the dialogue is still happening whereas here they get to treat it more like a cutscene where you can actually focus in on the characters you can see their faces see their reaction so I think that's really cool that they're taking moments where the dialogue change happens during gameplay and you get to make a whole scene out of it. Yeah, yeah. So you can really focus on the actors and I think it's really cool. Very true. But with that, so much of the bonding between Ellie and Joel happens during the gameplay and not necessarily cutscenes. And I wish we had more of them bonding together before getting to this moment where they might split apart. That's the one part of this that even if, because so much of that bond, happened off screen that all happened within that three month period you know that we didn't get a

and what would help make up for that is the fact that i really felt like the actors pedro pascal and bella ramsie they really brought their a game and built whatever that three month history was together because you can see their relationship changed you can feel that the relationship change and the way they interact has really changed so yeah i like i buy it i just feel like i i still I still do feel that even if I didn't play the game, I'd be left going. I wish we got to see them bond more before we get to the episode where they might split apart, you know? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I mean, I think this episode really nailed, like, again, not the cut scenes, but the scenes where you are actually in control.

You're seeing more of the back of their heads and you have that dialogue where they are bonding. So they really did nail that in this episode. So, I mean, I get where you're coming from. I mean, I just think their performances have been just so freaking good that that hasn't. bothered me as much. But obviously, if they had expanded a little more, you know, with them bonding, I'm not going to complain. I'm always down for some belly and Joel. So, I mean, I did. Because the last episode, they had just started really bonding. Yeah. You know what I mean? No, I get what you're saying. I'm not saying I disagree. I'm just saying it hasn't, I guess it hasn't

bothered me as, I'm not saying it's bothering you like crazy or anything, but it hasn't been a thing that's an issue for me. But I get where you're coming from. I can see where you're saying. And again, if they would have had more scenes like that, I'm not, I mean, heck yeah, I'm down for it for sure so but that's i think that's a very fair criticism that that you make i do also really like that scene that they had with uh maria and ellie i thought that was a great expansion and seeing because we didn't get a we know i mean at least i mean i don't remember in either game where we heard that maria had a child and lost that child so just getting the expansion yeah so getting the expansion her character and then also seeing the way that she

defends joel like it just like again that those inter the interaction that she had with maria just I really appreciated that conversation, but I appreciated more was how she was defending Joel so quickly and just, like, again, just how sharp she was, her intellect. I just, that's, like, that's Ellie. It was just to the T. And again, we'd never gotten that scene in the game. So that's what I love about the show. And I think you were just when you're like, this is just how you do an adaptation. Like, they just know where to pick their poisons when it comes, or rather, their strengths, rather, when, you know, they're doing like a shot for shot thing with dialogue or imagery visuals, you know, when it comes.

to the game or stuff that they're expanding upon and I mean they're just really nailing it on the head for me and again I really like that that expansion we got with Maria's character when she was cutting her hair which kind of an Easter egg to her cutting her hair but um well you know actually

the thing about the kid if I can interrupt for one second which I think is neat because so much that happens in a world like this is there's the trauma bonding element yeah they're all kind of experiencing a universal trauma bonding yeah because of the thing and both but then uh you but sarah i imagine a lot of ways was like a daughter to tommy too so of course

of course but the addition of that because that scene happens where it's like sarah told me maria told me about sarah but that happens off screen in the video game so you know the second they went to maria someone that's when i said like are we going to get that scene i was like oh we're going to see how maria told him and i think it makes more sense because it always did kind of I wouldn't say rub me the wrong way but whenever that came up in the game I was like why would that just come up in conversation

with Maria and Ellie I mean I get what you're saying but in the just to defend the game Joel and Tommy were off for a good 15 20 minutes so we don't know what was exactly talked about obviously now we do but I get where you're coming from now yeah no I just I feel like that's such

we need to see that conversation we need to see that little because even here Maria doesn't go into this whole story Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's not going, you know, like, oh, Sarah died in the day of outbreak or something like that. And, you know, she just realized she had a slip of one sentence and was like, never mind. Yeah, well, also, I like the guardrails too on Maria, like just being so protective of Ellie. Because, again, like you talked about, it's just, it's such a traumatic, like everyone's gone through some kind of, you know, trauma.

So I think you make a good point there. And by the way, you knew that I get a little off topic. Like, you know that Tess also had a husband and a child that they didn't, you knew about that, too? Or no? Yeah, I thought they mentioned that in the show. Oh, did they? Okay, because if they did it, my fault for her game, but apparently they had a deleted scene where they should, it was like a flashback where she shot her husband. Oh, wait, no, that's where I heard it.

Yeah, there was a, yeah, I'm getting all my information. I'm getting crosswired here. Yeah, yeah, so, but yeah, my mind went to that just because we were talking about characters and their kids and all that stuff. in the drama. But yeah, getting back to this episode, though, like I said, if you're a big fan of the game, I think there's a lot in here to appease you. Notwithstanding the dam stuff that they completely cut out, obviously, but I don't think it was, honestly, I don't think that was really necessary. That was more of just action sequence and the dramatic part from the dam that they needed. They just moved it over to Jackson, which again, we got some really good previews

of stuff. And obviously, I'm allowed to say this. We got to see Shimmer. They even mentioned by name, so as you saw from our reaction. And again, just would I have liked the University of Eastern Colorado a little bit longer? Sure, but again, it's not something that, that's just the gamer in me, but I thought it was completely fine with the pacing of what they were doing on the episode. So, yeah, overall, I really dug this episode. It's probably one of my favorite episodes, just, I mean, just from the atmosphere, the performances from Bella Ramsey and Pedro Pascal, like, just really elevated this episode to another level on top of all the things we got preview to us. but just and also too just the moments we got from the game that were more drawn out more emotional in this one i mean i just i really appreciated this episode a lot well i like seeing how their bond

works with them learning how to hunt together with learning how to shoot yes yeah seeing these skills at le because even though um i mean she was taught some stuff in fedra school yeah uh it's not a big deal to say that actually you can say that i'm like sometimes i forget like did the show mentioned this or not. Even if they didn't mention that. Yeah, yeah. Before I say something, often involves like, is this a big deal if I say this? And Marlene even said in the first episode, like, that I brought, I sent you to Federer School.

Yeah, yeah. You can say that. But yeah, in Federer School, like, she'd learn how to shoot, but nothing like a rifle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To that degree, right? So seeing, seeing that, ooh, next episode must be where we get some flashbacks, too. I'm thinking that, too. Oh, there's three episodes left.

Oh, my God. I was like, how are they going to do this in two episodes? Yeah, it's either the next episode or it's episode eight. It could be episode eight, but, yeah, I think it might be episode eight with the flashback that you're talking about, that if you're a gamer, you know exactly what we're talking about. I hope they really explore that. Because I think we know what's happened. Again, without going to spoilers, we know what's going to happen in the next episode.

But, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they go through, I do think that sometimes they skip over. some even i sometimes i am i do get the impression oh they just saw those hunters up but then again it's a lot less hunters there's like four hunters um so i guess there's a scenario yeah i i actually you know what that might just be the gamer me too of like because because not it's not the same thing as the sniper in the last episode where you're like how do you just get around that so easy they could have had it they could have had such a good moment for attention here yeah even if i hadn't played the game i would have had that complaint but but i agree but here you know they see

they see those hunters down there or whatever there they see them down there and they just like are able to get to their horse pretty easily you know and to me just even as a show view or i would have been like oh it would have been some cool moments to ring out some tension because i think i think a part of a part of last of us the world that i love about it is the having to sneak around and then kill some people and you know having to be really cautious and like the stealth stuff And I think this show is kind of absent, like keeps that not really present in the game in the show, which kind of, that's one element. I'm like, I wish that was here. There are still moments of tension in the show for sure, but there are other parts where I'm like that, what you just specifically highlighted, that, that criticism, I will completely agree with you on that kind of like with the sniper and then exiting Eastern Colorado. And then obviously we skipped a whole final sequence in that last episode.

Well, even if it was just a show, I would have been like, oh, that would have been such a good moment to ring out. Like, I would have, I would have been such a good tension sequence. I agree, but it goes by quick. But that moment with the dog where she, where it was about to. That's a good tension movie. Yeah, that was great tension. It's like, no, I want to see that with people. And dogs don't even come into the second game.

Second game, yeah. I mean, we see the one dog in the first game when they're at the dam. And Tommy says, I forgot the dog's name. I mean, the dog wasn't, we didn't seem sniffing or anything, but that was it. I mean, the other additional scenes that I think there's a lot of great additional. Because a lot of the scenes are, there are scenes in here that are like that the whole scene with the dog sniffing out, that's not in the game. And I think the and none of this stuff with Joel getting emotionally triggered where he becomes stilted, you know, which where he does get frozen when the trauma gets too strong for him. Yeah.

That's not in the game either. And I think those are wonderful, wonderful add-ons to do to your show. And I agree. I think that there's a lot of... See, the thing is, for everything that they don't provide for me from the game... They add something else in here that I'm like, I love that. Right. I love that scene that they did.

And it's usually just a character scene. It's not even like they gave me a different action scene. It's some character scene. It's interesting you say that. It's like, you did the hard part, the character stuff, the right, the dialogue. No, just come up with attention to build action scene. You did the hard part. Because that's the funny thing

is most video game adaptations is just trying to do the action and they don't do the character stuff but I'm like but they're doing the most important part because Last of Us is really known for its story and character and granted we did get an amazing action

sequence in the last episode where the bloater and all the effect and the clicker scene in the second episode is phenomenal yeah yeah for sure absolutely we've gotten some incredible action sequences that have been filled with tension but I agree with you

it's those little moments where it's like it just adds another layer and again this is not us saying we hate them Obviously, we're obsessed with the show. It's just something that we just elevate it to another level to the stratosphere, which it's pretty much already there as it is. But, no, like, in terms of characters and all the expansion and that kind of stuff,

they've taken this to another level for sure. I think it's only distracting when, like, I'm not distracted if you just skip over it. Like, with Bill, all the shit with Bill that they skipped over. It doesn't bother me because they just completely skip past it. Yeah. So I'm not even really thinking about it. I'll be thinking about it when I'm like, oh, shit, we're about to go into that. Oh, they just kind of like really shortened the shit out of that.

And that's when I get distracted. I agree. As someone who's played the game. And because then I have to like kind of check my thought process. Like, is it just because of what you're the numbers? Because like that scene here at the, when the, when the hunters show up, I'm like, oh, that's a really tense ass game moment. And it's scary and intense, at least for that big dramatic moment. Right.

And then here they literally exit within 10 seconds of screen time, whereas I don't know how long it took, like, in the actual context of the TV show. But in screen time, it was 10 seconds for us. And there was no tension in terms of the exiting where in the game, like, again, even if we're not gamers, but just pointing out in the game, it takes a good while to get out of there. Yeah, because even finding, like, the lab stuff, you know, you have to really search the building forever. Yeah. And I'm cool. They skip that. That's fine.

I'm cool with that because it is kind of just like, how do you find all this shit again? You got through like a hassle. Yeah. But here, yeah, it's only distra. It only kind of like pings that part of my brain when I'm. I agree with you. When the show is like about telling.

But basically I think they delivered that in the second episode. Yeah. With the clickers. Yeah, with the clickers. Because there is that whole sequence of the clickers in the game. And I'm like, oh, they're delivering it. But they're doing it differently. and they're making it their own and I do I do get that itch but again though they're nailing the things that matter more right right of course of course and they are and we could just sit here and only focus on the on the praises but you know like that's what John and terror are for on the because they haven't played the game so they're here to not even be concerned about but I agree with you even if we if we hadn't played the game I'd still probably say like okay like they got out of their pretty fast they got out of their pretty fast or

Yeah. No, I agree with you. I think it's a valid constructive criticism. But again, like you said, they're nailing the most important things so that the characters, the emotional depth. And obviously, like I've always said from the game, if you can nail Joel and Ellie, everything else is just icing on the cake from there. And to me, for the most part, they have completely nailed Joel and Ellie thus far. Yeah. And as two people who actually really love The Last of Us 2, where I know that it's a very debatable game for a lot of people, I was over the moon about. seeing you know that there's a divide wait everyone doesn't love last of us part two yeah it's not the same level of overwhelming love everyone was obsessed with it the exact same way as the first game it's not divided in any way i thought did you know were you birth it's a real thing out there it's a problem for people but uh yeah for me i was like i was way over the moon and then seeing that one oh my god yes like that is a pure easter egg oh my oh for sure it is the purest of easter eggs because only if you've played the second game

you know any idea who that person was you know and it wouldn't even be a spoiler for me to say the name um but i just won't no we're better than that people we don't wear t-shirts that spoil game well oh sorry well we'll wait till we're reacting a heavy spoilers video so yeah we'll let we'll let we'll let paul do the the spoiling for us and then we'll we'll expand upon uh certain cameos and other foreshadowing things for the future and it is kind of cool to because i didn't realize that they because they've obviously changed the ethnicity of maria right of yeah like a lot of the characters here um well just like a few just joll and tatvi um hey sarah but uh yeah what but it was kind of interesting to pick up on like because i had no idea that they that they uh i

didn't even think like who's playing maria i didn't even think about that for a second and but once she started Which is started closer. I was like, that might be Tommy's wife. Well, once you said to, I mean, I was already thinking that, but once you said, is this who I think it is? I was like, oh, yeah, I was thinking exactly that's who I think it is today. I love her work. I've seen every season of True Blood. I love her work on True Blood.

That's the only thing I'm really familiar with her on. I think she's phenomenal on that show. And so to see her here on another HBO show gets me really excited. And she does bring the, because Maria is it like, like a warm presence, but also a stern presence. Yeah, I agree. And one last thing that I want to mention, too, I really like how it was just a really quick scene, but I like that they were talking about how the town kind of formed and she was on the council and all that because I do, I know you're, I mean, I'm a huge fan

of the second game. You're a little bit bigger of a fan than I am. Do you remember that being talked about in the second game? I don't know, man. You remember, like, more trivia stuff better than I do. This is true. I just, I don't remember, I mean, I remember knowing that her father and her started up the town, but I don't remember talking about the whole council and all that.

I knew Maria was in charge. I remember that. I didn't really commit to memory Maria Fax. I thought she was your favorite character in the game, dude. Come on. She just comes and goes in the game. Either way, I thought that was a nice little introduction to the town and expansion and just how it all got started and what they're doing there.

Yeah, no, this worked for me on, I still loved it. I love the hell out of it. and then for things that I thought were missing from not having get more time with Ellie and Joel to bond prior. I really feel like that scene would have just hit up million times harder

if we had seen them bond together a little more. No, dude. I totally get where you're coming from. It hasn't bothered. Again, not saying it bothers you over the moon, but I agree with you. It would have been nice to get a few more of those scenes, for sure.

Get a little more time to breathe with that, but I'm still loving what we've gotten. That's the ironic part. It's like, I still love this shit out of this episode. Like, I love this episode. I didn't want it to end. But I'm not going to lie to you. I did notice more in this, like my brain was telling me during this, like, we are getting

so many more seen. In this episode, particularly of not only them, you know, forming a bond with each other, like, that's obvious, but just the scenes where you're in control. And again, the cameras to the back of your head and they're just talking. Like, those are some of my favorite moments in the game. And you're not even, there's no action happening in the game. And you're still in control. but nothing's happening but dialogue and bond building like those are literally some of my favorite moments in both games when moments like that are happening so again i i totally get where you're coming from i would definitely like to see more scenes like that for sure but so far i've still loved what we've gotten me too because i really thought the actors at least brought the history for that three month gap yeah and and and that was another thing too that i think pedro pascal and gabriel luna like they really nail that bondship that they have as brothers like you really feel the history

those two have with each other. They have such electric on-screen chemistry together when it comes to them playing brothers with each other. And just the way, like, how he broke down and from. Like, I just, I mean, I've had conversations like that with my brothers. So, like, I could totally relate to that.

And I just, I felt that between the two actors. And just, again, this show is so damn well made on all facets. It's just, it's really impressive. And the thing with that moment, too, the same of me, I could talk about every, because there's not a scene here I didn't like. Yeah.

That's the thing is, like, I just wish I had some, scenes but the but the but even the way he was doing the crying scene because like there's many ways an actor can choose to do something like that and i like that it wasn't just like him bawling because joel this even this interpretation wouldn't ball like he would be fighting he would doing everything he can to not really cry you know so i like that it was more of like he's fighting tears it gave me to a foreshadowing of a future moment which i know you know what i'm talking about but we'll talk about it off camera and in terms of the crying yeah yeah yeah i know i know exactly what you're talking about um but yeah uh

a great great episode uh this left me over the moon uh at the end of the day i was still left over the moon yeah no it was yeah it was a i didn't want to end yeah no i i love that that was but i think that was part of the one of my favorite parts of our reaction to this episode like don't and please i mean i always feel that way when we're getting towards the end of all these episodes and obviously to me at least this particular episode no it was really do not I know like in the last episode when you kept you were probably thinking like more Kathleen scenes more Kathleen scenes. I want more everyone was thinking that. All right guys.

Well, thank you for being here. Be sure to subscribe three more episodes to go. And I can't wait for this. Man, I can't believe that that is as a gamer because I know that doesn't really. I'm sure. I really do wonder what. I mean, I imagine it's still effective for audience members who haven't played the second game. But for people who are fans of the second game, I'm like, wow, what a, what a treat.

Oh, yeah. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it either. That was not. This whole experience. I was like, this is the shock most shocking thing. And also, too, one other thing, as much as I love HBO Max and Neil Druckman and all of them, I've been a little bit sad that they've been kind of spoiling some preview stuff, like, for next episodes and stuff.

So I'm just glad, like, it allows us to put things in thumbnails, then when they do them. That's true. And I could go, well, they're showing it. That's true. That's true. So I was really, like, genuinely happy, like, not knowing anything about this and, like, oh, my God, I was not at all expecting that. All righty.

Well, thank you guys so much for being here. I had a great time. And, hey, let's end this with a lucky page. Gabriel. Gabriel, Luno, we are shouting you out today. Gabriel, I hope that this will, Valentine's Day has passed, but I hope you had a banger of a Valentine's Day. I hope it was romantic or at least frisky. And if it wasn't, that's even better. Trust me, you don't want to be

trapped. It's like having a constant handcuff on you. It's disempowering and emasculating. So she doesn't make us these far in the videos, nor does she watch a frame of them. So I'm safe. If she asks, I love her, and I will always be obedient to her at all costs. But Gabriel, I consider you to be a very kind soul. When you hear her name like Gabriel, don't you just kind of automatically assume they're a nice person? I've never met a dick named Gabriel. Dude, for sure. I mean, I mean, what's, Gabriel Byrne was evil in end of days, but we got Gabriel.

But the actor is known to be a nice fellow. I know, but I'm saying we got Gabriel and the Patriots, one of my favorite characters, Heath Ledger. so there you go yeah there you go man so and gabriel luna here is a gent as well and gabriel in the dictionary means god is my strength holy crap well you know what gabriel you're our strength we don't need god we just go to you so thank you for being you hope you have a great rest of the twenty twenty three and if you're single go out there mingle and if you're taken go be shaken and bacon with her I don't know why did that, Jester. I'll see you, buddy.