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Starting point is 00:01:10 Okay, we're thinking. All right, season two, episode six, comments. All right, guys, that was season two, episode six. as you can tell we are emotionally doing great and yeah if you watch this episode it's because the fine folks over at praper did such an incredible job editing down these highlights we appreciate all their hard work also if you're listening on apple or spotify please give us five stars we would really appreciate it also if you want cool teas like these reject nation shop com you're a member of our patreon you get a 15% discount let's check in on our feelings

Starting point is 00:01:48 how are you feeling aaron oh oh my God. I'm sad. I'm a little sad. Well, it was a great episode. It was really, really freaking good from start to finish. I think possibly the best episode of the series. Yeah, this was really impactful. And I think the way that they reduxed what we as game players know from the game was done with maximum impact. And I think that really serves the narrative into, you know, know this interpretation i think no jackman did an amazing job directing the episode and the way that they were able to add context to joel's decision and to redux the conversation that they have in the game was done masterfully and only makes it hit that much harder that she only finally found out the day before he died what he did yeah i was just like oh because in the game i think she lives with it for like a year and that riff is caused for a longer period of time but the incident of that riff is you know something else that reminds her of her growing suspicion her growing mistrust of

Starting point is 00:03:07 of Joel over the course of time and these these building factors that built into the riff whereas in this one the the truth being revealed is the thing that's causing or allowing them to start to repair which i think is an interesting change up i think pedro and bella did an amazing job in this episode um and i think the the themes of the father the sins of the father and not trying to repeat history we're down immaculately as well watching joel as a child be a protective figure for his father and you know the relationship with violence i didn't take a lot notes this time. I'll remember two notes here. First note being violence passed down. Now violence passed down was done a different way from his grandfather to his father to Joel because they

Starting point is 00:04:06 use it as an outlet for their own aggression as a projection of their own pain, whereas Joel used as a form of protection and use his moral protection as the justification for any sort of violence as long as it protects the people that he loves. So I thought that was brilliant. The other thing I wrote was love in a cooker, which meant that love isn't a pressure cooker because, you know, that day at the hospital is the day that changed both,

Starting point is 00:04:35 or Joel and Ellie's lives, also Abby's life as well. And we see, you know, a calm for Joel and Abby, or Joel and Ellie in the face of those five years before it starts to turn. And you see their love. grow over the course of those five years and how, you know, the closer they get and the more their love evolves into their parental partnership, but also the same could be said for Abby, the elevation of her love, meaning it wasn't a pressure cooker of hate over the course

Starting point is 00:05:06 of those five years. Joel grew back into his fatherhood and their relationship became the stronger for it, whereas Abby grew further into her descent and didn't know this man. and only what he's done. So I think the fact that those two things are happening at the same time though we don't see those parallels, I imagine we may see a version of that in season three. But yeah, to wrap up my thoughts

Starting point is 00:05:28 before we get into a larger conversation, I thought this episode was amazing, and I am excited for the finale. Greg, how are you feeling? I feel like I prefer a few at first. Before me. Oh, honestly. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:45 I mean, I'm going to agree with Aaron. that's one of the best, if not the best episodes. I know it's, you can always say recency bias, but that's seriously one of the best episodes of the show so far in the first two seasons. It was incredible. I can understand now Neil Druckman when he did the... Oh, were you going to say something like that?

Starting point is 00:06:04 Oh, sorry. I thought you were going to say... I can understand now Neil Druckman when they were doing the interviews for, I think, the premiere, I think they were shown the first two episodes. He said episode six of this season held a really special place in his heart besides the fact that he said he was directing it

Starting point is 00:06:19 he just said the entire episode really held a very special place in his heart and I can totally understand why because I've got to imagine I'm going to speak for all three of us I think it holds a special place in our hearts and I would imagine all you would just watch it was an incredible episode

Starting point is 00:06:34 even if you don't know the game who was just very riveting, very immersive so much emotional depth Bella Ramsey and Pedro Pascal they just again really killed it I love their chemistry as Greg pointed out several times they are Joel and Ollie, especially in this episode. You know, you really, really feel their dynamic, their history.

Starting point is 00:06:55 I love that prolog. Again, this is where I talk about where Craig Mason and Neil Druckman really do a good job of hitting the major beats, but taking liberties into their own hands as well. I love that prologue that we got, and there were obviously several things that they did in season one where they added stuff in taking liberties as well. And that prologue just setting up.

Starting point is 00:07:17 up and a lot about what you were talking about with, you know, the cycle repeating, you know, from the grandfather to the father with that violence and, like, seeing where that rage from Joel comes from. And also that protective manner of protecting Tommy as well. I thought that was such a brilliant way of including that. And also, too, that he wants to be, you know, and like the words that his father passed down to him, that he wants to be a better, you know, that he'll be better than his father. And then he passes that on, you know, to Ellie. And then she's going to hopefully depending on what happens in game three or season three or whatever like she'll pass that on to jj as well we don't know what will happen with that relationship but we'll see but yeah it was i just again just the recreation of everything was great i love also what we got with eugene because as any of you played the game know with eugene you just get a couple pictures you get to see him with him with tommy you get to see back when they were in the denver qz and then you get to see a picture and a note of him with his wife saying to come back because his wife is missing him and i really thought that was incredible and

Starting point is 00:08:18 i thought that was an incredible as much as i did miss the scene from the the vg of you know where they go where he chases her to salt lake city i thought this was a brilliant way to do it because when he saw that he was willing to lie like that and again he had that same expression that same look where he swore her that was such a brilliant way to redo it this way and not exactly copy it and that's why i think these guys just do a brilliant way of recreating things and not like copying again like i said it's very important to hit those major beats but the way they redo things and the way to do it here to have eugene included in that moment of the betrayal of trust there and it was such a smart way of showing the shattering of their relationship over time because

Starting point is 00:09:02 we do get to see that in the game but they take their time with that whereas here we get the this episode to encapsulate the shattering of their relationship so i really like the way of like in that moment she knew i mean again she said she always knew because you could tell from her expression she didn't want to believe at the end of season one when he said that he swore everything that she that you know about the fireflies was true she didn't want to believe them that her surrogate father at the guy who's protecting her was lying right to her face she just didn't want to believe it and now seeing when when he lied again right to her face about eugene and then was willing to lie right in front of gale too he's like okay he's completely lying now for sure about the fireflies this

Starting point is 00:09:42 just confirms it what a smart way to do that you know i'm i'm sure there's going to be some people out there who said they'd prefer the video game that's totally fine but yes sorry also real quick also makes sense why abby or why ellie lied to to gail about having the lost conversation because that's where to reveal is joel secret yeah absolutely totally agree and yeah that was uh really smart and also too i thought that was i i loved when he was playing the future day song and i know like in this timeline, it's not going to make as much sense because I believe the song Future Days came out in 2013, and

Starting point is 00:10:16 in this universe, outbreak happens in 2003, so probably a plot hole, I don't care. I love when Joel sings it, and again, that it was just so endearing when he does it and shows how much he really cares about Ellie and how invested he is

Starting point is 00:10:32 in Ellie, and just such a beautiful scene. Again, just shows how damn good their chemistry is when he was playing that for her, and obviously how good she did that scene as well with with dina was it the previous episode whatever whichever episode it was i don't remember you guys remind me in the scene where we i know we just had the scene did she mention because we saw that you know the big theme in in the game besides revenge was purpose and that's what ellie felt was lost upon her when she was not you know cut up on

Starting point is 00:11:02 like a smorgasbord on on there in the surgery and she was you know she didn't was she wasn't fulfilled her purpose of being the possible cure for humanity. You know, she didn't want Riley and Henry and Sam and everyone else, all the people that were closest to her in her life that had been lost. She wanted it all to have meaning. And what's your question? My question is, in that conversation that she had with Joel, did she mention the word purpose or was that not in there?

Starting point is 00:11:31 In the game it was. No, in the episode right now, did she mention it? She did? Okay, cool. For some reason, I think I was just so in the moment. I missed it. I'm glad they included that because I would have been a little upset there. So I think that's such a big thing for Ellie, rather.

Starting point is 00:11:44 And I think it's really big that Joel said, I don't, I'm sorry you feel that, like, you know, kind of subjective or subversive. But I think it's important that Joel said I would still do this over again because I love you so damn much and you're my kid. And I would do anything for you. And that even means like not allowing you to have this, you know, fulfilling purpose of yours because he's giving her a life of purpose. rather not being like this cure but just having a life to live and like she's going through amazing times like being with cat doing other things that shit being with nina and other things so you know he gave her a life so it's just it hits hard i got other points i want to make but greg how do you how do you feel uh i feel

Starting point is 00:12:28 boy um hmm i feel fucking it's terrible I guess it's old um I guess I'll start with the with the game thing with the game comparison element is that

Starting point is 00:12:57 I think it's genius what they what they did here because for if you're for the people who play the game we all know that ending scene doesn't come till like towards the end of the game and when they finally reveal that at a very different moment for um ellie to be reminded of this of this

Starting point is 00:13:21 moment in time when she's about to kill abbey in the game and that scene in the game like many hits really hard and yeah I cried like every time I watch that scene in the game and while a lot of it is

Starting point is 00:13:48 similar in lines and pacing the way they led up to this scene if you're going to give us this iconic moment Joel's final conversation with Ellie and especially for gamers

Starting point is 00:14:06 who are going to be watching this and you want it to hit you got to do something different and they don't do it by there's some changes in the in terms of some dialogue there's some changes but a lot of it's very similar and it's about the lead up that goes into it that they make very different it's a lot of the surrounding context around that scene

Starting point is 00:14:25 so I think it's like super smart because if you haven't played the game I'm sure this hits like a like a tidal wave and then on the personal level and i'm very a very trepidious about saying specific names and certain things and so i'm gonna dance around a little bit because i don't like to expose or put people on blast when they're not in the room and they don't want it so i'm not going to like uh i'm not I'm not going to like force, make it more like if someone is watching that, like, why are you talking about this? So I'm going to be a little bit careful how I say this.

Starting point is 00:15:05 I know what it's like to have inherited generational rage. The context of grandfather to father and then a lot of the, you know, father's actually doing better than grandfather, though. And the idea is you're supposed to kind of get better every generation. and that whole scene at the beginning because the dad, his dad is still, I guess, Joel Miller, Sr., his dad is also doing the same thing that Joel does. He's a cop. He's turning this problem that he has and trying to do it in the name of protection, you know. He's trying to find a way to, it's his way of justifying it. And the thing that really was like messing me up.

Starting point is 00:15:54 is Joel really thought he was doing better than his dad. Joel really believed that. And you can see he's trying. And we feel his love. We feel his protection. And we also see his flaws. We see his mistakes. We see his lies.

Starting point is 00:16:11 But we know what his intention is. And because we feel his intention, that's what's the heartbreaking part. That reminds me of a lot of very specific memories in life. and i know it's like to be ellie in this context so the game doesn't do give you that like the game doesn't give you this like generational inheritance that they've they've uh brought up with tommy and a couple episodes ago i'm not wanting ellie to repeat the cycle seems like you know to tommy's a little more psychologically aware comparatively to uh to joel so i think

Starting point is 00:16:51 think that what they did in terms of an illustration of characterization it is remarkably stronger and the last of us too is my favorite i said many times my favorite game and somehow they managed to take this this relationship with him and ellie this uh this backstory this uh detailed depiction of joel and make it stronger than the game I think they outdid it. I think the way they, where it's placed in the game is perfect, where it's placed in the show is perfect. And I think that adds so much more rich nuance and layers

Starting point is 00:17:35 that make him more identifiable. And I've said it many times. The way how Joel is in the game is he's more hardened and Joel and the show is more broken. And then this episode just doubles down on that like really showing us how how far broken this gentleman is so yeah uh i really identified with a certain key i know what it was like to see myself in relationships i had a good amount of empathy there and so but at the time it got to the very very ending scene it was uh it was really

Starting point is 00:18:14 hard it was like hard in the beginning like once once they had the prolog and then they cut to the present and then and then once he starts playing the guitar and you kind of I have like an awareness of where it's going this episode was kind of like messing me up a lot where like I moved by a lot of the scenes that are very similar to the game but it's not until that final scene in the game when I'm really crying this really pulled on some other stuff and the the genius of actually showing you the Eugene moment and showing the complication and it's showing more like when you this one of the brilliant aspects of the game is perspective that's what they they're mainly playing with right they're playing with perspective and when you

Starting point is 00:19:02 first have that scene to gaol when you first have that scene with uh joel and gail and then even you hear about how he killed eugene you don't really know the full story you assume like oh he got bit you had to put him down which is technically what happened and you feel kind of you feel sorry for joel in that moment right you feel sorry for him and then now i'm like playing that scene back in my head i'm like who the hell do you think you are joe like how do you think you go to therapy with this person and not expect this you know but man is it human man d it's like you have that thought like who the hell you think you are and then you go fuck that is a goddamn human being isn't it one who just go go

Starting point is 00:19:46 into denial one who chooses not to see these other layers he's like talking about with dina in that first episode like looking teenager problems and it's like you know what's up you know just the constant the constant it's so human so yeah it's like i i like how they make him even more flawed because that specificity makes it more relatable um yeah i i love it is my favorite episode of the entire show hands down yeah no i wholeheartedly agree and i think what makes that two things the scene um were with the final scene that we it's towards the end of the game having it played here you also have the context of not only did he go to her after what he did but that happened this same day that we're watching this so yeah him being challenged for the first time about how he

Starting point is 00:20:42 hurt Ellie and then her coming to him for the confrontation he is now emotionally primed to finally unveil what he has done because it has been confronted within that same day which I think was beautiful but also as we go along into this journey and descent into darkness and pain and how love manifests itself I think that this moment will be replayed maybe not in its entirety but maybe we'll get flashed at this moment again, whether it be the end of season two, end of season three or the end of season four. This moment is still impactful because this entire episode

Starting point is 00:21:22 is told from Pedro's perspective. And we're going to get, I imagine we're going to get this same moment told from Ellie's perspective, or at least, you know, flashback to in some capacity when we're in Santa Barbara. But yeah, I also really enjoyed getting the context of the moth, finally. I don't believe they gave that to us in the game, but finding

Starting point is 00:21:43 it's like representative of death. Joel's the Moth. Jol's the Moth, yeah. But I just thought it was really sad and really beautiful. And yeah, it all culminates and hits harder because

Starting point is 00:21:57 the immediacy of the potential of resolution was taken away from her on the cusp and it's almost like it was in a weird way, like his destiny to die, because that was his his final act of of love is giving her that that revelation giving her the truth and in the face of that revelation you know he is he is murdered for that cause it's like wow it's it's in my mind part of mine is like wow that's cosmic and the other part of my like

Starting point is 00:22:27 well it's kind that's very tv but like my the cosmic side of my brain is like wow he had this revelation that he revealed to her and then the the consequences literally come to find him the next day after the truth has come to light. Yeah. So I think that was insane. But also just from a performance level, Pedro Pascal in that scene just said so much

Starting point is 00:22:51 without saying anything. You know, just the way this man's able to emote with his eyes and his face and same with Bella Ramsey. When she's on the horse and she's crying, I don't know that's a different scene, but just talking about the end scene, they're both emotional, both crying, and you

Starting point is 00:23:07 see Joel replaying in his head. will also being confronted. There's almost like a, it's this revelation of pain, but also like the, the thing of like a child being in trouble at the same time. There's just so many layers to his performance. And I really hope that he gets nominated or gets the Emmy for that scene.

Starting point is 00:23:27 Because he's incredible as Joel Miller. And it's one of those things where, you know, people get like these actors fatigued. Like, oh, fucking bigger Pascal's and everything. You know, he's like, he's showing up in all these franchises. He's the Mandalorian. He's Joel.

Starting point is 00:23:39 But watching him here, like, I just see Joel Miller. I don't see Petro Pescal. He's just transformed into the sky that is broken and extremely sincere. And also speaks to just like men in general. Like, masculinity and pain. And what men do to try to protect the people that they love and them trying to do that in the service of what they believe to be right. And yeah, it's just,

Starting point is 00:24:09 it's it's really tragic but it also speaks to you know what it what it means as a whole and i yeah i i also resonated with yeah that's a great point like while we were all frustrated with what he did to eugene and not allowing him to say goodbye to gail i think it fits in with joel's character though he's going to do whatever it takes he doesn't care who he pisses off to protect ellie that's just in his nature so you know is just you know always fascinated by it by joll's character when it comes to protecting those he loves and he's been doing that since he was a little kid so he's not going to change now and i think the the beauty of that scene whether it was put you know with the the scene of where ellie confronts him and then you know the the confrontation

Starting point is 00:24:58 and all that i think the beauty of that scene also is to you know the forgiveness that's why it's like it's so tragic for Ellie like you know you go throughout the game thinking like she's just hell bent on revenge because she because Abby killed Joel it's not just about that it's because she didn't even get a chance to have the like to forget to have that forgiveness with Joel so she robbed her of that of the mending of the relationship

Starting point is 00:25:25 and that was a very big portion of the game but you didn't get that revealed to afterwards but again it was I love the way they inserted it here It really, really added a new level of depth. So I like, I really like that theme. And also, too, I love that inclusion because in the game, obviously, as we know, Tommy and Joel are on patrol when the whole Abby, you know, has a Joel in one and all that. But in here, we know that Dina is now on patrol with Joel.

Starting point is 00:25:50 And when he says, I'll see you next year, that's the last time they ever see each other. So that holds a lot more weight when he says that now. And it's really sad and tragic, too. another thing is that you know we were meeting Ellie in the cusp of this especially confirmed in this moment that because it's so much fresher

Starting point is 00:26:11 this moment on the port is the confirmation that her purpose was lost and now in the face of that the next day she is it's like her pain and grief meets her loss of purpose so her

Starting point is 00:26:27 new purpose in life is avenging Joel and it's going to come at the cost of any choice and it doesn't matter what gets in the way and I love the fact that we are on this journey with Ellie as she oh man oh fuck we're on this journey with Ellie as she just gets her father back and on the cusp of her becoming a father herself and wanting to do better than her father but is now infected and has been infected with the violence so it's almost passed down to Ellie because she wants to avenge her father in the face of trying to possibly do better than Joel and and she makes a choice to go after Nora instead of be with Tina and be with Jesse and now is feeling the consequences

Starting point is 00:27:24 Well, granted, but she's about to fill the consequences and meet them because not only did Jesse come after her, but Tommy also came after her. She chose to go after and avenge her father instead of protecting her son and her partner. And I think that's so tragic. And I look forward to seeing how Craig Mason adapts the consequences of her choices. those are all really great points from both of you it is so hard um i'd imagine it's really hard to do to span several years as an actor because you have to like fill in so much of the blank and you know from last season it's really obvious they had great chemistry you know and all season we didn't see them hanging out until here you know and uh i don't know i felt like

Starting point is 00:28:30 their chemistry was so much more electric this time like the entire time because there was like a consistent underlying complication the entire time and you could just feel that repression slowly taking over the unspoken stuff slowly taking over and And for things about generational trauma and cycles of revenge or cycles of violence, so much of this episode, Ellie is saying, you're not my dad. You're not my dad. And I'm like, when you seem like you're doing this shit that, you know, grandfather did and dad did. You're definitely Joel's kid.

Starting point is 00:29:10 And I think that this is definitely Bella Ramsey's best work. This is the, this is two actors at their high. height i think uh the word peak is used flippantly uh i think it's i think it's used too much i don't think i've ever been like peak this though i'm like this peak performances from these two man because like the way they they do the passage of time it's like watch it's like watching a fucking play with these two the entire time it's like watching a play you know just all you're doing is doing scene work in different locations they do in the game they mix it up you know because it's game so you got to like kill some clickers kill like the whole thing with the when they're on the dinosaur day

Starting point is 00:30:03 and the space thing it's like there's there's a whole adventure of killing some clickers killing some infected i mean so yeah they they they cut all that out i don't even miss it you know what i'm watching i don't i don't even like concerned with it and i feel like these two actors who's going to fill in the the memories who's going to fill in this distance. Neil Druckman. Neil Druckman got so much shit when this game came out. He was like public enemy number one. Then it would be whoever played Abby, Laura Bailey.

Starting point is 00:30:37 Laura Bailey. Yeah. So like Neil Druckman like, God damn, out of any episode to direct. Like last season he directed, it was the second episode, the one where the clickers are introduced. you're like that makes sense the game guy doing the gamer episode that's cool that makes sense and now you see his like true directing chops of being able to provide something completely different but yeah there was like so much devastation uh throughout uh i cannot

Starting point is 00:31:08 sing the praises of this this episode enough and joe pentoliano joey pants never can pronounce that last time so much i think it's i'm not even sure i'm from pantow leano i'm a syllable guy you just break it down pantoliano the guy's a cameo king by the way like he there this guy can like a pop up and i i'm a big fan of the dexter show the world and uh there's the prequel the dexter and he has like a couple of scenes in there and again very important like cameo and right here like the rich like you hear so much about eugene and it's like you feel it you you you feel that him and gail are together and you don't even see them together but you feel that they are husband and wife brilliant acting and brilliant acting all around and master's attention here and oh my god

Starting point is 00:32:13 the music too saying so high i think like when people saw the trailer uh like the spaceship moment with is like the big thing that's a big moment in the game it's really touching that and it's like kind of crazy because in the in the in the they they recreate the moment in the game right with the spaceship but then he gives the gift of imagination again to joe pantoliano to eugene when he is saying goodbye to his wife so it's kind of like this weird weird gift that Joel has where he can have people like channel their imagination in some way and like a form of escapism because maybe that's how he operates. And yeah, I'm I am so, I'm, I'm blown away by this one.

Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm blown away. This is like this episode I think deserves like an entire nomination. And oh, yeah, oh my God. And something I really want to like take back a little bit too is like, you know, there's i just go on x there's so much like fucking vitriol towards bella ramsie and i'm seeing a lot of like the defense coming up and like we've had our debates a little bit about like yeah there's like these factions that we love that she's great and there's other parts so i'm not so sure about uh this episode she is literally going from young ellie and you're watching her

Starting point is 00:33:36 age up and it's so believable it's so believable that i'm like wow i wonder if i like go back and rewatch the season that any of those moments where i had questions or i questioned the believability of certain moments i'm like i wonder if i'd like really buy it now because uh yes every single scene um those two just they feed each other as actors they feed each other so well man i i would love to know what troy baker and uh ashley uh johnson would think of i would like that i got to know what they they think of this this because they do so much from the game, but I'm not even, like, thinking about the game. I'm just here with this.

Starting point is 00:34:22 And to me, that's a leap because, like I said, favorite game of all time. And to not even be thinking about the game when they were even doing stuff from the game. And I'm just buying this moment. Yeah. Oh, God. I am so happy with what they did here. I am so happy. yeah no i'm i'm also really happy also one of the thing i appreciate you for being

Starting point is 00:34:47 super vulnerable earlier like i i feel that and just you know with our personal relationship i know like you're you know i'm not going to get into your stuff but um yeah i i definitely feel all of that and then also the points you made just now were amazing points and i wholeheartedly didn't even think about that like his whole thing about the imagination i was like yeah only crap he he's a gifted man he's a play director he's a play director Sense memory He didn't give Joe Pia a tape He just gave him a lake to look at

Starting point is 00:35:18 But still imagination, let play that That's a good point, Craig Yeah, I can't I think back when the game came out No, no, I'm sorry, when season one came out They had the podcast with Craig Mason And Troy Baker host that So, you know, if you listen to that one,

Starting point is 00:35:35 I'm sure you'll get at least his perspective on it But another parallel I wanted to make was how the last episode ended and his choice with Eugene here although it's a little bit different I found a parallel in that where he told Jesse and Dina that he was gonna or Ellie told Jesse and Dina

Starting point is 00:35:54 that they're gonna she's gonna meet up with them and find them in the face of you know getting her revenge and she lied to them just like Joel lied to Ellie about you know going to kill Eugene and you know because they both did what they felt they had to do but coming from a different place and that is illustrated earlier in the show where Ellie you know she has this this almost

Starting point is 00:36:21 addictive relationship to violence she wants she wants to learn how to use guns she wants to kill clickers whereas Joel is someone who comes from a place of protection who wants to to serve the people in his life so his lie came from a place of I have to protect Ellie and all the people in this city because it's my obligation whereas her lie comes from a place of I need to avenge my father because no one else is going to do it but me but both of their choices are

Starting point is 00:36:46 coming from a selfish selfish place the selfishness in relation to their violence come from polar opposite places and it's interesting how both of them can be corrosive to their relationships and Joel also lied

Starting point is 00:37:02 at the beginning of the episode and the prologue to protect his brother right women with the drugs and all that or was he not lying? I think so. Yeah. Either way, but yeah. Joel did not have a Southern accent

Starting point is 00:37:13 when he was 12 years old. He had to grow into it. He had to grow into it. Either way, great episode. I'm surprised to make a little joke here that I think I said during the reaction that because she had Bella Ramsey

Starting point is 00:37:26 or Ellie had a Matrix poster. She didn't recognize Joe P here as Cipher. So, but either way, I'm very curious how the final episode is going to end. Do you guys think it's going to? to just last question before we end here do you guys think it's going to end in the way we think it's going to end i don't know what you mean by that i am i'm thinking with you had your uh you know

Starting point is 00:37:44 with abby pointing the gun at ellie no there's all that stuff with owen and the shit that we haven't done yeah well okay i was thinking why would abby's kind of come to the theater after all that we didn't even do we have to we have to go through the whole aquarium thing we're going to i imagine we're going to fast track all that and then we're abby's going to be playing we we gave you a chance and you wasted it i think it and and and and you're going to season i don't think that i don't think so at all i mean you still got you still got like a whole journey of

Starting point is 00:38:11 shit to get through before you get to that moment well yeah well again they're they're changing things up and changing things up in fast tracking but i think that is too that is like that is like uh i mean that's that's the end of seattle day three so i could i could totally still see that the main

Starting point is 00:38:27 important thing that happens in day three is the fact that you know with owen and mel and then yeah going back to the theater so i don't think that's what about manny man that happens in the happy side of the story yeah that's happy so right yeah i don't know but yeah we'll definitely we'll see we'll see we'll see what happens drop your predictions on how you think this is going to end and was this your favorite episode of the series of this season let us know in the comments below and we shall see you guys on episode seven the finale of season two take care

Starting point is 00:38:57 and buy a shirt alexandra alexander there's a person here to be my surrogate daughter yes I would definitely say it would be you alexandria you just give the vibes of someone who's like a little bit of vulgar and ferocious and independent and I want like your approval yeah you got your legs hoodie thing on and your profile pick which suggests to me that you're a little bit edgy you can take care of yourself maybe you're a little bit of a tomb boy got a tattoo what is that Tattoo to tattoo covering up. Who knows?

Starting point is 00:39:35 Maybe past traumas or past triumphs. And you go to guitar. But I would love to take care of you as my daughter. I would buy you a cheese plate. Oh, damn. I would. You teach you the accordion. That's your guy's instrument.

Starting point is 00:39:52 A thousand percent I would teach the accordion, do the polka together. Not raising, not raising a peasant. No, no. Only high class. high-class instrument individual we grow our own strawberries together and we play the polka all night long and we only eat the purest of proteins yes human meat i would love to feed you some human meat i the gluteus maximus actually has a good amount of uh digestible protein and it goes right to your butt when you digest ironically yeah it does that's how the kardashians have

Starting point is 00:40:31 nice asses. Yeah. They don't do the whole like and I'm going to make sure my daughter has a nice ass. I got to make sure if she's going to defend herself in this world, he's going to need it. Happy May Alexandria. I love you. Daughter of mine.

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