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how are you feeling aaron oh oh my
God. I'm sad. I'm a little sad. Well, it was a great episode. It was really, really freaking good from start to finish. I think possibly the best episode of the series. Yeah, this was really impactful. And I think the way that they reduxed what we as game players know from the game was done with maximum impact. And I think that really serves the narrative into, you know,
know this interpretation i think no jackman did an amazing job directing the episode and the way that
they were able to add context to joel's decision and to redux the conversation that they have in the
game was done masterfully and only makes it hit that much harder that she only finally found out
the day before he died what he did yeah i was just like oh because in the game i think she lives
with it for like a year and that riff is caused for a longer period of time but the incident of that
riff is you know something else that reminds her of her growing suspicion her growing mistrust of
of Joel over the course of time and these these building factors that built into the riff
whereas in this one the the truth being revealed is the thing that's causing or allowing them to
start to repair which i think is an interesting change up i think pedro and bella did an amazing job
in this episode um and i think the the themes of the father the sins of the father
and not trying to repeat history we're down immaculately as well watching joel as a child be a
protective figure for his father and you know the relationship with violence i didn't take a lot
notes this time. I'll remember two notes here. First note being violence passed down. Now violence
passed down was done a different way from his grandfather to his father to Joel because they
use it as an outlet for their own aggression as a projection of their own pain, whereas Joel used
as a form of protection and use his moral protection as the justification for any sort of violence
as long as it protects the people that he loves.
So I thought that was brilliant.
The other thing I wrote was love in a cooker,
which meant that love isn't a pressure cooker
because, you know, that day at the hospital
is the day that changed both,
or Joel and Ellie's lives, also Abby's life as well.
And we see, you know, a calm for Joel and Abby,
or Joel and Ellie in the face of those five years
before it starts to turn.
And you see their love.
grow over the course of those five years and how, you know, the closer they get and the more
their love evolves into their parental partnership, but also the same could be said for
Abby, the elevation of her love, meaning it wasn't a pressure cooker of hate over the course
of those five years. Joel grew back into his fatherhood and their relationship became
the stronger for it, whereas Abby grew further into her descent and didn't know this man.
and only what he's done.
So I think the fact that those two things
are happening at the same time
though we don't see those parallels,
I imagine we may see a version of that in season three.
But yeah, to wrap up my thoughts
before we get into a larger conversation,
I thought this episode was amazing,
and I am excited for the finale.
Greg, how are you feeling?
I feel like I prefer a few at first.
Before me.
Oh, honestly.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm going to agree with Aaron.
that's one of the best, if not the best episodes.
I know it's, you can always say recency bias,
but that's seriously one of the best episodes of the show
so far in the first two seasons.
It was incredible.
I can understand now Neil Druckman when he did the...
Oh, were you going to say something like that?
Oh, sorry.
I thought you were going to say...
I can understand now Neil Druckman when they were doing the interviews
for, I think, the premiere, I think they were shown
the first two episodes.
He said episode six of this season
held a really special place in his heart
besides the fact that he said he was directing it
he just said the entire episode really
held a very special place in his heart
and I can totally understand why
because I've got to imagine
I'm going to speak for all three of us
I think it holds a special place in our hearts
and I would imagine all you would just watch
it was an incredible episode
even if you don't know the game
who was just very riveting, very immersive
so much emotional depth
Bella Ramsey and Pedro Pascal
they just again really killed it
I love their chemistry as Greg pointed out several times
they are Joel and Ollie, especially in this episode.
You know, you really, really feel their dynamic, their history.
I love that prolog.
Again, this is where I talk about where Craig Mason and Neil Druckman
really do a good job of hitting the major beats,
but taking liberties into their own hands as well.
I love that prologue that we got,
and there were obviously several things that they did in season one
where they added stuff in taking liberties as well.
And that prologue just setting up.
up and a lot about what you were talking about with, you know, the cycle repeating, you know,
from the grandfather to the father with that violence and, like, seeing where that rage from
Joel comes from. And also that protective manner of protecting Tommy as well. I thought that
was such a brilliant way of including that. And also, too, that he wants to be, you know,
and like the words that his father passed down to him, that he wants to be a better, you know,
that he'll be better than his father. And then he passes that on, you know, to Ellie. And then
she's going to hopefully depending on what happens in game three or season three or whatever like she'll pass that on to jj as well we don't know what will happen with that relationship but we'll see but yeah it was i just again just the recreation of everything was great i love also what we got with eugene because as any of you played the game know with eugene you just get a couple pictures you get to see him with him with tommy you get to see back when they were in the denver qz and then you get to see a picture and a note of him with his wife
saying to come back because his wife is missing him and i really thought that was incredible and
i thought that was an incredible as much as i did miss the scene from the the vg of you know where they go
where he chases her to salt lake city i thought this was a brilliant way to do it because when he
saw that he was willing to lie like that and again he had that same expression that same look
where he swore her that was such a brilliant way to redo it this way and not exactly copy it and
that's why i think these guys just do a brilliant way of recreating things and not
like copying again like i said it's very important to hit those major beats but the way they redo things
and the way to do it here to have eugene included in that moment of the betrayal of trust there
and it was such a smart way of showing the shattering of their relationship over time because
we do get to see that in the game but they take their time with that whereas here we get the
this episode to encapsulate the shattering of their relationship so i really like the way of like
in that moment she knew i mean again she said she always knew because you could tell from her expression
she didn't want to believe at the end of season one when he said that he swore everything that she
that you know about the fireflies was true she didn't want to believe them that her surrogate father at
the guy who's protecting her was lying right to her face she just didn't want to believe it
and now seeing when when he lied again right to her face about eugene and then was willing to lie
right in front of gale too he's like okay he's completely lying now for sure about the fireflies this
just confirms it what a smart way to do that you know i'm i'm sure there's going to be some people
out there who said they'd prefer the video game that's totally fine but yes sorry also real quick also
makes sense why abby or why ellie lied to to gail about having the lost conversation because that's
where to reveal is joel secret yeah absolutely totally agree and yeah that was uh really smart
and also too i thought that was i i loved when he was playing the future day song and i know like
in this timeline, it's not going to make as much sense
because I believe the song Future
Days came out in 2013, and
in this universe, outbreak
happens in 2003, so
probably a plot hole, I don't care.
I love when Joel
sings it, and again, that it was just so
endearing when he does it and shows how much he
really cares about Ellie and how
invested he is
in Ellie, and just such a beautiful scene.
Again, just shows how damn
good their chemistry is when he was
playing that for her, and obviously how good
she did that scene as well with with dina was it the previous episode whatever whichever episode it was
i don't remember you guys remind me in the scene where we i know we just had the scene
did she mention because we saw that you know the big theme in in the game besides revenge was
purpose and that's what ellie felt was lost upon her when she was not you know cut up on
like a smorgasbord on on there in the surgery and she was you know she didn't was she wasn't
fulfilled her purpose of being the possible cure for humanity.
You know, she didn't want Riley and Henry and Sam and everyone else,
all the people that were closest to her in her life that had been lost.
She wanted it all to have meaning.
And what's your question?
My question is, in that conversation that she had with Joel,
did she mention the word purpose or was that not in there?
In the game it was.
No, in the episode right now, did she mention it?
She did?
Okay, cool.
For some reason, I think I was just so in the moment.
I missed it.
I'm glad they included that because I would have been a little upset there.
So I think that's such a big thing for Ellie, rather.
And I think it's really big that Joel said, I don't, I'm sorry you feel that, like, you know, kind of subjective or subversive.
But I think it's important that Joel said I would still do this over again because I love you so damn much and you're my kid.
And I would do anything for you.
And that even means like not allowing you to have this, you know, fulfilling purpose of yours because he's giving her a life of purpose.
rather not being like this cure but just having a life to live and like she's going through
amazing times like being with cat doing other things that shit being with nina and other things so
you know he gave her a life so it's just it hits hard i got other points i want to make but
greg how do you how do you feel uh i feel
boy um hmm i feel fucking
it's terrible
I guess it's old
um
I guess I'll start with the
with the game thing
with the game comparison element
is that
I think it's
genius what they
what they did here
because
for if you're
for the people who play
the game we all know that ending scene doesn't come till like towards the end of the game and when
they finally reveal that at a very different moment for um ellie to be reminded of this of this
moment in time when she's about to kill abbey in the game and that scene in the game
like many
hits really hard
and yeah
I cried like every time
I watch that scene in the game
and while
a lot of it is
similar in lines
and pacing
the way they led
up to this scene
if you're going to give us this iconic
moment
Joel's final conversation with Ellie
and especially for gamers
who are going to be watching this
and you want it to hit
you got to do something different and they don't do it
by there's some changes in the
in terms of some dialogue there's some changes
but a lot of it's very similar and it's about
the lead up that goes into it that they make very different
it's a lot of the surrounding context around that scene
so I think it's like super smart because
if you haven't played the game I'm sure this hits like a
like a tidal wave and then on the personal level and i'm very a very
trepidious about saying specific names and certain things and so i'm gonna
dance around a little bit because i don't like to expose or put people on blast
when they're not in the room and they don't want it so i'm not going to like uh i'm not
I'm not going to like force, make it more like if someone is watching that, like, why are you talking about this?
So I'm going to be a little bit careful how I say this.
I know what it's like to have inherited generational rage.
The context of grandfather to father and then a lot of the, you know, father's actually doing better than grandfather, though.
And the idea is you're supposed to kind of get better every generation.
and that whole scene at the beginning because the dad, his dad is still, I guess, Joel Miller, Sr., his dad is also doing the same thing that Joel does.
He's a cop.
He's turning this problem that he has and trying to do it in the name of protection, you know.
He's trying to find a way to, it's his way of justifying it.
And the thing that really was like messing me up.
is Joel really thought he was doing better than his dad.
Joel really believed that.
And you can see he's trying.
And we feel his love.
We feel his protection.
And we also see his flaws.
We see his mistakes.
We see his lies.
But we know what his intention is.
And because we feel his intention,
that's what's the heartbreaking part.
That reminds me of a lot of very specific memories in life.
and i know it's like to be ellie in this context so the game doesn't do give you that
like the game doesn't give you this like generational inheritance that they've they've uh brought up
with tommy and a couple episodes ago i'm not wanting ellie to repeat the cycle seems like you know
to tommy's a little more psychologically aware comparatively to uh to joel so i think
think that what they did in terms of an illustration of characterization it is remarkably stronger
and the last of us too is my favorite i said many times my favorite game and somehow they
managed to take this this relationship with him and ellie this uh this backstory this uh detailed
depiction of joel and make it stronger than the game
I think they outdid it.
I think the way they, where it's placed in the game is perfect,
where it's placed in the show is perfect.
And I think that adds so much more rich nuance and layers
that make him more identifiable.
And I've said it many times.
The way how Joel is in the game is he's more hardened and Joel
and the show is more broken.
And then this episode just doubles down
on that like really showing us how how far broken this gentleman is so yeah uh i really identified
with a certain key i know what it was like to see myself in relationships i had a good amount of
empathy there and so but at the time it got to the very very ending scene it was uh it was really
hard it was like hard in the beginning like once once they had the prolog and then they cut to the
present and then and then once he starts playing the guitar and you kind of I have like an
awareness of where it's going this episode was kind of like messing me up a lot where like I moved
by a lot of the scenes that are very similar to the game but it's not until that final scene in
the game when I'm really crying this really pulled on some other stuff and the the genius of actually
showing you the Eugene moment and showing the complication
and it's showing more like when you this one of the brilliant aspects of the game is perspective
that's what they they're mainly playing with right they're playing with perspective and when you
first have that scene to gaol when you first have that scene with uh joel and gail and then even
you hear about how he killed eugene you don't really know the full story you assume like oh he got
bit you had to put him down which is technically what happened
and you feel kind of you feel sorry for joel in that moment right you feel sorry for him
and then now i'm like playing that scene back in my head i'm like who the hell do you think you are
joe like how do you think you go to therapy with this person and not expect this you know
but man is it human man d it's like you have that thought like who the hell you think you are
and then you go fuck that is a goddamn human being isn't it one who just go go
into denial one who chooses not to see these other layers he's like talking about with dina in
that first episode like looking teenager problems and it's like you know what's up you know just the
constant the constant it's so human so yeah it's like i i like how they make him even more flawed
because that specificity makes it more relatable um yeah i i love it is my favorite episode of the
entire show hands down yeah no i wholeheartedly agree and i think what makes that two things the
scene um were with the final scene that we it's towards the end of the game having it played here
you also have the context of not only did he go to her after what he did but that happened this
same day that we're watching this so yeah him being challenged for the first time about how he
hurt Ellie and then her coming to him for the confrontation he is now emotionally primed to
finally unveil what he has done because it has been confronted within that same day which I think
was beautiful but also as we go along into this journey and descent into darkness and pain
and how love manifests itself I think that this moment will be replayed maybe not in its entirety
but maybe we'll get flashed at this moment again,
whether it be the end of season two,
end of season three or the end of season four.
This moment is still impactful because this entire episode
is told from Pedro's perspective.
And we're going to get, I imagine we're going to get this same moment
told from Ellie's perspective,
or at least, you know, flashback to in some capacity
when we're in Santa Barbara.
But yeah, I also really enjoyed getting the context of the moth,
finally. I don't believe they gave that to us
in the game, but finding
it's like representative of death.
Joel's the Moth.
Jol's the Moth, yeah.
But I just thought it was
really sad and really
beautiful.
And yeah, it all
culminates and hits harder because
the immediacy
of the potential of resolution was taken away
from her on the cusp and it's almost like it was
in a weird way, like
his destiny to die, because
that was his his final act of of love is giving her that that revelation giving her the truth
and in the face of that revelation you know he is he is murdered for that cause it's like wow
it's it's in my mind part of mine is like wow that's cosmic and the other part of my like
well it's kind that's very tv but like my the cosmic side of my brain is like wow he had this
revelation that he revealed to her and then the the consequences literally come to find him the next
day after the truth has come to light.
Yeah. So I think that was
insane. But also just
from a performance level,
Pedro Pascal in that
scene just said so much
without saying anything.
You know, just the way this man's able
to emote with his eyes and his face
and same with Bella Ramsey.
When she's on the horse and she's crying,
I don't know that's a different scene, but just talking about the end scene,
they're both emotional,
both crying, and you
see Joel replaying in his head.
will also being confronted.
There's almost like a,
it's this revelation of pain,
but also like the,
the thing of like a child being in trouble at the same time.
There's just so many layers to his performance.
And I really hope that he gets nominated or gets the Emmy for that scene.
Because he's incredible as Joel Miller.
And it's one of those things where, you know,
people get like these actors fatigued.
Like, oh, fucking bigger Pascal's and everything.
You know, he's like,
he's showing up in all these franchises.
He's the Mandalorian.
He's Joel.
But watching him here, like, I just see Joel Miller.
I don't see Petro Pescal.
He's just transformed into the sky that is broken and extremely sincere.
And also speaks to just like men in general.
Like, masculinity and pain.
And what men do to try to protect the people that they love
and them trying to do that in the service of what they believe to be right.
And yeah, it's just,
it's it's really tragic but it also speaks to you know what it what it means as a whole and i yeah
i i also resonated with yeah that's a great point like while we were all frustrated with what he
did to eugene and not allowing him to say goodbye to gail i think it fits in with joel's character
though he's going to do whatever it takes he doesn't care who he pisses off to protect ellie
that's just in his nature so you know is just you know always fascinated by it by joll's character
when it comes to protecting those he loves and he's been doing that since he was a little kid
so he's not going to change now and i think the the beauty of that scene whether it was put
you know with the the scene of where ellie confronts him and then you know the the confrontation
and all that i think the beauty of that scene also is to you know the forgiveness
that's why it's like it's so tragic for Ellie
like you know you go throughout the game thinking like
she's just hell bent on revenge because she
because Abby killed Joel it's not just about that
it's because she didn't even get a chance to have the
like to forget to have that forgiveness with Joel
so she robbed her of that of the mending of the relationship
and that was a very big portion of the game
but you didn't get that revealed to afterwards but again it was
I love the way they inserted it here
It really, really added a new level of depth.
So I like, I really like that theme.
And also, too, I love that inclusion because in the game, obviously, as we know, Tommy
and Joel are on patrol when the whole Abby, you know, has a Joel in one and all that.
But in here, we know that Dina is now on patrol with Joel.
And when he says, I'll see you next year, that's the last time they ever see each other.
So that holds a lot more weight when he says that now.
And it's really sad and tragic, too.
another thing is that
you know we were meeting
Ellie in the cusp of this
especially confirmed in this moment that because it's
so much fresher
this moment on the port is the
confirmation that
her purpose was lost
and now in the face of that
the next day she is
it's like her pain
and grief
meets her loss of purpose so her
new purpose in life
is avenging Joel and it's going to come at the cost of any choice and it doesn't matter what
gets in the way and I love the fact that we are on this journey with Ellie as she oh man oh fuck we're on
this journey with Ellie as she just gets her father back and on the cusp of her becoming a father
herself and wanting to do better than her father but is now infected and has been infected
with the violence so it's almost passed down to Ellie because she wants to avenge her father
in the face of trying to possibly do better than Joel and and she makes a choice to go after
Nora instead of be with Tina and be with Jesse and now is feeling the consequences
Well, granted, but she's about to fill the consequences and meet them because not only did Jesse come after her, but Tommy also came after her.
She chose to go after and avenge her father instead of protecting her son and her partner.
And I think that's so tragic.
And I look forward to seeing how Craig Mason adapts the consequences of her choices.
those are all really great points from both of you it is so hard um i'd imagine it's really hard
to do to span several years as an actor because you have to like fill in so much of the
blank and you know from last season it's really obvious they had great chemistry you know
and all season we didn't see them hanging out until here you know and uh i don't know i felt like
their chemistry was so much more electric this time like the entire time because there was like
a consistent underlying complication the entire time and you could just feel that repression slowly
taking over the unspoken stuff slowly taking over and
And for things about generational trauma and cycles of revenge or cycles of violence,
so much of this episode, Ellie is saying, you're not my dad.
You're not my dad.
And I'm like, when you seem like you're doing this shit that, you know, grandfather did and dad did.
You're definitely Joel's kid.
And I think that this is definitely Bella Ramsey's best work.
This is the, this is two actors at their high.
height i think uh the word peak is used flippantly uh i think it's i think it's used too much i
don't think i've ever been like peak this though i'm like this peak performances from these two
man because like the way they they do the passage of time it's like watch it's like watching a
fucking play with these two the entire time it's like watching a play you know just all you're doing
is doing scene work in different locations they do in the game they mix it up you know because it's game
so you got to like kill some clickers kill like the whole thing with the when they're on the dinosaur day
and the space thing it's like there's there's a whole adventure of killing some clickers killing some
infected i mean so yeah they they they cut all that out i don't even miss it you know what i'm watching
i don't i don't even like concerned with it and i feel like these two actors who's going to fill in the
the memories who's going to fill in this distance.
Neil Druckman.
Neil Druckman got so much shit when this game came out.
He was like public enemy number one.
Then it would be whoever played Abby, Laura Bailey.
Laura Bailey.
Yeah.
So like Neil Druckman like, God damn, out of any episode to direct.
Like last season he directed, it was the second episode,
the one where the clickers are introduced.
you're like that makes sense the game guy doing the gamer episode that's cool that makes
sense and now you see his like true directing chops of being able to provide something
completely different but yeah there was like so much devastation uh throughout uh i cannot
sing the praises of this this episode enough and joe pentoliano joey pants never can pronounce that
last time so much i think it's i'm not even sure i'm from pantow leano i'm a syllable guy you just
break it down pantoliano the guy's a cameo king by the way like he there this guy can like a pop up
and i i'm a big fan of the dexter show the world and uh there's the prequel the dexter and he has
like a couple of scenes in there and again very important like cameo and right here
like the rich like you hear so much about eugene and it's like you feel it you you you feel that him
and gail are together and you don't even see them together but you feel that they are husband
and wife brilliant acting and brilliant acting all around and master's attention here and oh my god
the music too saying so high i think like when people saw the trailer uh like the spaceship moment
with is like the big thing that's a big moment in the game it's really touching that and it's like
kind of crazy because in the in the in the they they recreate the moment in the game right with the
spaceship but then he gives the gift of imagination again to joe pantoliano to eugene
when he is saying goodbye to his wife so it's kind of like this weird
weird gift that Joel has where he can have people like channel their imagination in some way
and like a form of escapism because maybe that's how he operates.
And yeah, I'm I am so, I'm, I'm blown away by this one.
I'm blown away.
This is like this episode I think deserves like an entire nomination.
And oh, yeah, oh my God.
And something I really want to like take back a little bit too is like, you know,
there's i just go on x there's so much like fucking vitriol towards bella ramsie and i'm seeing
a lot of like the defense coming up and like we've had our debates a little bit about like yeah
there's like these factions that we love that she's great and there's other parts so i'm not so
sure about uh this episode she is literally going from young ellie and you're watching her
age up and it's so believable it's so believable that i'm like wow i wonder if i like go back
and rewatch the season that any of those moments where i had questions or i questioned the
believability of certain moments i'm like i wonder if i'd like really buy it now because uh yes every
single scene um those two just they feed each other as actors they feed each other so well man
i i would love to know what troy baker and uh ashley uh johnson would think of i would like that
i got to know what they they think of this
this because they do so much from the game, but I'm not even, like, thinking about the game.
I'm just here with this.
And to me, that's a leap because, like I said, favorite game of all time.
And to not even be thinking about the game when they were even doing stuff from the game.
And I'm just buying this moment.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
I am so happy with what they did here.
I am so happy.
yeah no i'm i'm also really happy also one of the thing i appreciate you for being
super vulnerable earlier like i i feel that and just you know with our personal relationship i
know like you're you know i'm not going to get into your stuff but um yeah i i definitely
feel all of that and then also the points you made just now were amazing points and i
wholeheartedly didn't even think about that like his whole thing about the imagination i was
like yeah only crap he he's a gifted man he's a play director he's a play director
Sense memory
He didn't give Joe Pia a tape
He just gave him a lake to look at
But still imagination, let play that
That's a good point, Craig
Yeah, I can't
I think back when the game came out
No, no, I'm sorry, when season one came out
They had the podcast with Craig Mason
And Troy Baker host that
So, you know, if you listen to that one,
I'm sure you'll get at least his perspective on it
But another parallel I wanted to make
was how the last episode ended
and his choice with Eugene here
although it's a little bit different
I found a parallel in that
where he told Jesse and Dina
that he was gonna or Ellie told Jesse and Dina
that they're gonna she's gonna meet up with them
and find them in the face of
you know getting her revenge and she lied
to them just like Joel lied to Ellie about
you know going to
kill Eugene
and you know because they both did what they felt they had to do but coming from a different place
and that is illustrated earlier in the show where Ellie you know she has this this almost
addictive relationship to violence she wants she wants to learn how to use guns she wants to kill
clickers whereas Joel is someone who comes from a place of protection who wants to to serve the
people in his life so his lie came from a place of I have to protect Ellie and all the people in this
city because it's my obligation
whereas her lie comes from a place of
I need to avenge my father
because no one else is going to do it but me
but both of their choices are
coming from a selfish
selfish place
the selfishness in relation to their violence
come from
polar opposite places and it's interesting
how both of them can be
corrosive to their
relationships and Joel also lied
at the beginning of the episode and the prologue to protect
his brother right
women with the drugs and all that
or was he not lying?
I think so.
Yeah.
Either way, but yeah.
Joel did not have a Southern accent
when he was 12 years old.
He had to grow into it.
He had to grow into it.
Either way,
great episode.
I'm surprised to make a little joke here
that I think I said during the reaction
that because she had Bella Ramsey
or Ellie had a Matrix poster.
She didn't recognize Joe P here as Cipher.
So, but either way,
I'm very curious how the final episode
is going to end.
Do you guys think it's going to?
to just last question before we end here do you guys think it's going to end in the way we think
it's going to end i don't know what you mean by that i am i'm thinking with you had your uh you know
with abby pointing the gun at ellie no there's all that stuff with owen and the shit that we haven't
done yeah well okay i was thinking why would abby's kind of come to the theater after all that
we didn't even do we have to we have to go through the whole aquarium thing we're going to
i imagine we're going to fast track all that and then we're abby's going to be playing we
we gave you a chance and you wasted it i think it and and and and you're going to
season i don't think that i don't think so
at all i mean you still got you still got like
a whole journey of
shit to get through before you get to that moment
well yeah well again
they're they're changing things up and changing
things up in fast tracking but i think
that is too that is like
that is like uh i mean that's
that's the end of seattle day three
so i could i could totally still see that the main
important thing that happens in day three is the fact
that you know with owen and mel and then
yeah going back to the theater so i don't think that's
what about manny
man that happens in the happy side of the story yeah that's happy so right yeah i don't know but yeah
we'll definitely we'll see we'll see we'll see what happens drop your predictions on how you think
this is going to end and was this your favorite episode of the series of this season let us know
in the comments below and we shall see you guys on episode seven the finale of season two take care
and buy a shirt alexandra alexander there's a person here to be my
surrogate daughter yes I would definitely say it would be you alexandria you just
give the vibes of someone who's like a little bit of vulgar and ferocious and
independent and I want like your approval yeah you got your legs hoodie thing on
and your profile pick which suggests to me that you're a little bit edgy you can take
care of yourself maybe you're a little bit of a tomb boy got a tattoo what is that
Tattoo to tattoo covering up.
Who knows?
Maybe past traumas or past triumphs.
And you go to guitar.
But I would love to take care of you as my daughter.
I would buy you a cheese plate.
Oh, damn.
I would.
You teach you the accordion.
That's your guy's instrument.
A thousand percent I would teach the accordion, do the polka together.
Not raising, not raising a peasant.
No, no.
Only high class.
high-class instrument individual we grow our own strawberries together and we play the polka all night long
and we only eat the purest of proteins yes human meat i would love to feed you some human
meat i the gluteus maximus actually has a good amount of uh digestible protein and it goes right
to your butt when you digest ironically yeah it does that's how the kardashians have
nice asses. Yeah. They don't do the whole like
and I'm going to make sure my daughter has
a nice ass. I got to make sure
if she's going to
defend herself in this world, he's going to need
it. Happy May
Alexandria. I love you.
Daughter of mine.