The Reel Rejects - THE LORAX (2012) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:45 Dr. Seuss is the Lorex. Commence. Oh my. God, there is so much. in the air today from all the plant life outside. Thank God we don't have any Wenslers or any O'Hare's around here. Ah, man. My nose is itchy.

Starting point is 00:02:07 I say we, we eradicate all the plants. All right. Let's do it. We need the profits, John. Yeah, yeah. You know, nature is fine and good, but we can't afford to prohibit business. Yeah. I mean, look, I like the message in the film.

Starting point is 00:02:22 Like, look, I'm all for profiteering. for making money like maybe not profiteering specifically yeah but my point is for making a living yes I'm all for making a money my point is like I was I'm not uh in agreement obviously with chopping down trees and screwing over the animal life and nature and all that not I don't I don't want you to make money that way I get it that's just part of don't don't completely lose sight of your place in the continuum of all the things on earth yes but I like the message in the film um you know, I think it was appropriate and I personally agree with it. And I do like the characters in the film. I like Ted, like, you know, his, I like how ambitious he is. And I do like his motivation. You know, at first it's, it starts out with, I'm trying to impress this girl. So I'll do anything it takes to get this tree. And then when he hears, has an understanding of what, what happened to this once beautiful civilization and like, you know, why this man is now basically in a desolate. and why he's isolated from society and why he lives alone.

Starting point is 00:03:30 He's like, okay, and also why, you know, they live in this place that's ruled by this greedy, you know, O'Hare guy. I thought, like, it really changed him. You know, it developed as a character as a result. And I like that now he's got pure intent. I mean, not that he was like a bad guy, Ted or anything. He's a fine guy. No, he just learns about a purpose bigger than his own, you know,

Starting point is 00:03:53 exactly. Small self-ish. And I like that. That's good motivation. for a character. It's a, it's a natural form of giving him an arc. And, uh, you know, I, I thought that was really well done. Um, and obviously the, you know, when it comes to animation, I thought, uh, all the stuff was good. There was a lot of cool, uh, cinematic stuff in terms of the POV, the tracking stuff. Uh, the actual animation itself, you can tell a lot of hard work and dedication went into it.

Starting point is 00:04:16 I liked a lot of the songs. Obviously, if you listen very carefully, the songs, it's, uh, deals with what we were just mentioning in regards to, uh, you know, uh, losing your soul. and taking it to the next level in terms of, you know, profiting, but what's it going to do to the rest of the world in terms of, like, nature and all that? Like, what does it do for you, but what's it going to do? How's it going to affect everyone or everything else? So I thought it was, again, I really enjoyed it. But Jonizio, my brother from another mother, what did you think, my man?

Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, I enjoyed this quite a bit. It's an interestingly proportioned story, or at least as a movie. I haven't read, I've read some Dr. Seuss, but I haven't read the Lorax book, the story. But yeah, like this kind of took me back to something. It was a little different than I expected in that, you know, having seen versions of the Grinch and other things, you know, even those, even like the old Grinch cartoon is like it's, obviously you're adapting something that isn't super long and especially. in the case of this that does have such a kind of particular and

Starting point is 00:05:28 direct message. This did feel like kind of a parable, but yeah, like a fable where like the I don't know exactly how to articulate it, but it felt

Starting point is 00:05:44 like it didn't feel like a non well-rounded movie or anything like that, but it is like kind of straightforward and it is like not slight. I don't know what the word is I'm looking for. I enjoyed it though. I really enjoyed the little I guess parables the word I'll go for that we had here where yeah you start out in this society and you know it's fun looking and it has you know yeah all these inflatable plants and trees and everything is like highly custom. A disco tree. Yeah and it's like a roller coaster world and

Starting point is 00:06:14 everything is fun and certainly that lends itself to you know the Dr. Sussian vibes but yeah as the movie goes on and it becomes clear that it is an ecological you know cautionary tale I thought this was nicely proportioned and I thought it handled itself well because it's like you know we especially nowadays get

Starting point is 00:06:33 I think especially sensitive in culture around art and things that are like not trying to hide that it like this isn't trying to hide I don't think that it has like a particular message about life and about ecology

Starting point is 00:06:50 But at the same time, it's also not going about it so obnoxiously or condescendingly that it's not like a functional movie or an enjoyable movie. And yeah, I mean, I'm sure somebody out there would have a problem with like, oh, this movie's trying to teach kids to value the environment or, you know, nature or whatever. But I don't know. This, I thought, nicely towed the line between being fun and imaginative and having all the enjoyable apps. aspects of an animated movie, but having, yeah, like a worthwhile message that is depicted in a way there that I thought was at least nicely handled in terms of its little metaphor, fantasy scenario. And yeah, it's like you have this guy, you start out with these people who live in this world that is broadly dominated by industry and a particular industry at that, the air, which makes me think certainly, you know, it's obviously making you think about bottled water, the most abundant. a resource on earth that should be free

Starting point is 00:07:52 you know because we need it it's just an essential part of being alive yeah and then yeah you travel out and you learn what's beyond that and it's not like a complete one to one to how our society is now

Starting point is 00:08:05 but there is a lot of that there where yeah he travels out beyond and finds that oh you know this society I live in wants me to think that this is natural and that like the rest of the world is just fine and I don't really have to think about it and then you go out beyond and you find like, oh, man, there's like a wasteland out here

Starting point is 00:08:22 and things have been decimated and, you know, things just went too far. And sitting there watching, I was like, I feel like there's a version of this that could work. You could make your thneeds and just, you know, split the difference and, like, keep planting, like, give back to the environment you're taking from. And, yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:08:44 I liked listening to the story of how the Onsler, yeah, started out with all. these, you know, reasonable enough ambitions, you know, he's got this great idea, he wants to share it with the world, and then pretty soon gets caught up in, you know, the corporate growth machine. Right. And yeah, and then you have that principle about like, we need endless growth at all costs. Nothing can hinder the march of progress and business and all that other stuff. And, uh, and yeah, this just brought it to a nice place where it's clear what the messaging is, but also it's very fantastical. So, you know, that felt

Starting point is 00:09:23 akin to a Dr. Seuss book, certainly. And I agree with you, too, because even though I agreed with the message, if they would have hit it too far over the head, it would have been like, okay, this is, it's forcing, like, I agree with this, but you're forcing the issue now, but they didn't, which I agree with you on. And also, too, I thought it was fascinating how they were talking about how, I mean, obviously you have this corporate domination in terms of O'Hare, air, like how he creates. issues, but he's got the

Starting point is 00:09:51 solution to the problem. That's something we can relate to and relate. So I thought, like, again, children aren't going to understand this thing, but the parents that watch this with this kids are going to be like, okay, yes. I mean, I think it's certainly such that, depending on how old you are,

Starting point is 00:10:07 yeah, but I feel like, you know, this is something where there's at least a potential for young children to at least grab that message that, oh, hey, maybe we shouldn't just trample over the rest of the life on earth, you know, for our own selfish

Starting point is 00:10:23 needs and desires. And, yeah, I think you're, to your point about Ted, you know, yeah, he initially starts this journey out of a selfish desire. A reasonable one, you know, a sweet desire even to give, yeah, this girl he's crushing on, you know,

Starting point is 00:10:39 this, you know, gesture, bring her a tree. And then it finds out that, yeah, the world is actually much bigger and is, you know, ailing more than, you know, he ever would have realized. And so, I guess it's the difference between a movie that is it feels like this movie the message is kind of the point and it doesn't seem like it's trying to hide that and I think that's nice because like sometimes I feel like nowadays especially any movie that tries to get it some kind of relevant real world messaging you know people get angsty because it's like okay what are we here for I want to be entertained I don't want to be preached at but I I feel like, you know, something like this that's not trying to hide the fact that it has a distinct clear message is nice because I feel like I'm sure someone would get mad about this, but I feel like at the same time, there's less to be mad about when something isn't trying to like sneak it past you or pretend like it's being overly clever by, you know, saying something without really melding it into the story. Whereas here, like, that's the whole point.

Starting point is 00:11:43 and I like that the Lorax even isn't like... The Lorax is almost like The Grinch or like a Beetlejuice in, not in demeanor, but just in the fact that like the movie's named for him and he's not in it. Like, not the Grinch. You spend a lot of time with the Grinch. Yeah, yeah. What I was thinking of is Beetlejuice.

Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, where it's like, you know, you're on other people's journey and you go into this sort of otherworldly realm in some way. I agree with that. And you have this figure who's really important and who is like a central thematic drive. of the story, but who isn't, like, on screen a bunch. And I really like Danny DeVito's voice performance as him, and I

Starting point is 00:12:19 really liked how earnest he was, and I and, yeah, like, I liked the fact that this was kind of short and sweet, like a Dr. Seuss book would be, and yeah, that it has, you know, it's drawn in such a way that I think is easy for children to grasp onto,

Starting point is 00:12:35 but at the same time, you know, you can still take that message of, like, it's not even that business and growth and human endeavor is bad. Of course not. Of course not. We got to make a living to survive. At least in the way that societies are set up, yeah. It's like, you know, it's not

Starting point is 00:12:53 essential to just life on Earth. Life is not cheap. Life in human society is not cheap, yeah. But it at least speaks to the idea that you could split the difference and that maybe endless expansion is not viable and is not good for the greater good of life on Earth or whatever, you know, natural world to exist. And to your point, like, what he was doing at first was like where he was, I mean, I don't know how much his business could grow, but like taking little tiny leaves off the trees. The way he was doing it, like, fine.

Starting point is 00:13:23 I don't know how much, again, in terms of his business, like what he could have done. But then once he started succeeded without becoming a global, right, right. But once he started doing a couple of trees, you're like, okay, this is going to take you down a tailspin. You're not going to be able to turn back from. But in regards, I agree with you, the film is about the message. having said that what I liked about this film because I knew it was going to be about the message once we started getting into it

Starting point is 00:13:47 but I actually did like the characters when we talked about Ted and the grandma of course Betty White who's awesome and also the Lorax even though again we're on these other people's journeys but also the Wensler like I lost that he lost a piece of his soul doing this like becoming this greedy businessman and then like he saw the air of his ways

Starting point is 00:14:06 like in exile if you will and then like and then getting like seeing the Lorix come back and get him was like coming out of a redemption for him and I appreciate like sharing his story yeah sharing his cautionary tale is like the way for him to release it and finally make something good out of the mess that he made yeah no absolutely so that's why like you know it was good yeah yeah and this was by the way this was the this was the uncle actor yeah yeah yeah he did sound familiar steven stephen to Polsky he's in so much he's

Starting point is 00:14:38 in the Groundhog Day. Yeah. Phil, Bill Connors, I thought that was you. Yeah, totally. Yeah, and it's like, there's not a ton, like, the characters are, it's not like a super deep character movie or anything like that.

Starting point is 00:14:53 No, I wouldn't go that far, but, I mean, again, there was a little bit of depth here and there, but not like super deep, but I mean, but again, the film really focuses on the message, but I did like that there were characters that had some arcs and characters I could identify with and relate to. And, you know, from that perspective, I appreciate it.

Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah, it's the right proportionality where you as an adult can watch it and be like, yeah, you know, we should at least engage with the circle of life here. And, yeah, if we're going to take from the environment and if we're going to alter the world around us, we should maybe at least do so with consideration for what other life exists here. Agreed. And anything that we can, it's like all of human society is built on the back of resources that exist naturally on Earth. So if you're going to mine and alter those resources and build a society, you should probably create some kind of balance where, yeah, you're planting more trees than you're cutting down. Agreed. Or you're balancing it out somehow. And so it's like, yeah, for an adult, you can watch it and appreciate that.

Starting point is 00:15:57 And also enjoy the fun flourishes. And this wasn't even doing as much of like, here's a crazy background detail or whatever. Like there's a lot of interesting stuff to appreciate it and fun voice performances. But then also, if you're a child, you can see this. You can have fun with all the whimsical designs and the fun, you know, physical comedy and the music. But also, I think it's probably pretty easy for kids to latch on to just the basic idea of like, man, this used to be so beautiful and it's been wrecked. And this guy just got so greedy that he ruined the world around you. Yeah, it got too big.

Starting point is 00:16:29 And it's like there's so many points of no return. And like, yeah, I feel like in a way, even though, again, you could gripe that like, oh, you know, we should know, we should know. More about the characters or something like that. I think for what this is, it's nicely proportioned. And I feel like it gets its point across in a way that isn't like trite or annoying or preachy in a way that's off-putting. I agree. This film is not annoying like myself.

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Starting point is 00:19:30 And his second wife, Audrey Gaisal. Okay. Not bad. Dr. Seuss's widow, Audrey Gaisal, ended up loving what. illumination entertainment had done so much that she gave the rights to them to continue making films based on the books. Oh, I guess have to see

Starting point is 00:19:46 some of their other ones. Unlike the original book, the Onsler is shown fully in the story as a human. Executive producer Christopher Mela Dan Dondry said of the change, the minute you make the Wensler a monster, you allow the audience to interpret that

Starting point is 00:20:01 the problem is caused by somebody different from me, and it ceases to be a story that is all about us. Then it's a story about oh i see the person who led led us into the predicament predicament is not is not a person it's somebody very very different so it takes you off the hook and i like that they have him like through the slats and you're like what is he is yeah i couldn't tell i couldn't tell that at first say i agreed like a different version of the lorax or something and then yeah he comes out and he's just an old guy yeah agreed well it's playing board games with the family grammy norma can make the can make the word lorax

Starting point is 00:20:34 with the scrabble ball she has oh that's fun cool cool he's the original name of the town in the movie is greenville as can be seen in the scene where the onceler is selling his needs in the town center greenville's circle before the commercial success of the product changed the name to needville oh that too geez like completely yeah taking over rebranding the entire society yes uh the film is the first interpretation of the story to put a face to the onceler in the book and the thor and the lorax The Wensler is only depicted from the arms down. That's a salient call. This humanizes the character, I think. I'm curious to look at how it's depicted in the book, but I think that's a salient call for what the messages and what they're doing here. After the success of Horton, Here's a Who in 2008.

Starting point is 00:21:24 Audrey Gaisal, Dr. Seuss's widow, approached Illumination's head, Christopher Mellon Dondry, and said he wanted to do the Lorax next. I want to see Horton. Have you seen Horton? I have not. All right. We'll have to add it to the list. and John C. Horton, here's a who? Yes, the film premiered on March 2nd, 2012, Dr. Seuss's 108th birthday.

Starting point is 00:21:45 Let's go. He was there. He was there, see it. He was. And the Lorax, he was on O. O.A. Oh, hair, here. That's right. Watching. In the Lorax, the Wensler was in the 1972. It must be, is this a movie? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I guess. Oh, it's a TV movie. It's 25 minutes. It's probably one of those hand drawn. Yeah. And in the 19702. Lorax movie, the Wensler was never sympathetic to the

Starting point is 00:22:11 Lorax before the last Truffala tree fell differing from this film where Wensler and the Lorax were friends. I like that decision. Again, it humanizes him. You know, it shows that he understands the error in his ways. And it, yeah, and it shows

Starting point is 00:22:28 like the potential in him to get lost is there, but he wasn't all, like he, yeah, he's had some level of appreciation. I I think it makes the greedy turn worse. Yeah, I was wondering this as we were watching. Ed Helms voices both the young and the old versions of the Wensler.

Starting point is 00:22:47 I thought he just did the young. I wasn't sure he did the old. I couldn't even detect that in his voice. When the Wensler is walking to his office once he became rich, what appears to be a blowup magazine covers hanging on the wall, it is captioned and I quote, too big to fail, which is colloquial term in economics to define an institution whose failure would bring catastrophic consequences to the economy.

Starting point is 00:23:10 After the 2009 banking collapse, modern economists, excuse me, have said that institutions too big to fail are simply too big to exist. I mean, that just seems like the worst symptom of our design. It's like if you have companies built that should they fail, it'll cause catastrophic damage to society. And now we got to work and bend over backwards to save them because they're not being managed properly or they're going unchecked. Like, that's a great opportunity for humanity to be like, whoa, wait a minute.

Starting point is 00:23:45 This whole society experiment. This is not what society is for. I'll do a couple more. When the characters are throwing money toward the Wensler once they begin to love his invention, the money has the mayor of Whoville's face from Horton Here's a Who on it. It's fun. So wait, it's Whoville and Horton Here's a Who? Yeah, I mean, the Who's, I think, show up in.

Starting point is 00:24:06 Not only the Grinch. I think there are at least a few times. At least two that I'm aware. It's a multi-verness. Okay, cool. Okay. It's a Hooniverse. It's a Hooniverse.

Starting point is 00:24:19 Jenny Slate and Rob Wrigal's first animated film. Cool. It's a great big Hooniverse. Hey. We're a really puny. Zach Ephron and Taylor Swift both starred in films from Gary Marshall's Unofficial Holiday Trilogy. Look out.

Starting point is 00:24:34 Swift appeared in Valentine's. day in 2010 and Ephron appeared in New Year's Eve. Oh, is he New Year's Eve? Dang. The soundtrack reflects the natural versus man-made nature of the scene. For example, the opening song, Thneedville, describes the thoroughly artificial town with completely electronic music. Meanwhile, the finale, Let It Grow, and the planting of all natural tree is made with

Starting point is 00:25:00 almost all acoustic instruments. Let It Grow even includes a cappella, uh, choral music with no man-made instruments at all. I like that choice. Yeah, I was noticing, like, the sound of the music would change. And especially when he's singing his big number about, you know, the thneeds and how, you know, he's singing his big, like, here's my plan, and, you know, we're going to grow and it's going to be great and everyone's going to love it.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, that song gets more and more unhinged and, like, his guitar goes from being this, like, you know, distorted, but, like, still rootsy, bluesy thing, you know, when he's just starting out, when he's a little more ramshackle. And then as he ascends, you know, it gets more unhinged and electronic. And his voice performance, even singing is more just like gravelly and maniacal. Yeah, where it starts out really soft.

Starting point is 00:25:49 It's like feverish. Yeah, yeah. John, we shouldn't, we didn't mention this. We should have. What do we got? I'm really mad on us. Despite being a singer by trade, Taylor Swift doesn't sing in the final song, let it grow.

Starting point is 00:26:00 Why didn't we mention that? I think we might have not mentioned it. And we got to go back and reshoot the whole video now. Yeah. I was like the thing that stood out to me the most weird. It was a great song in the messaging and all that. I was like, is Taylor Swift not singing in this one? I'm like waiting for her to sing. Which I get was probably in her contract or not to sing. I just want to act. Well, that's, yeah. And it's like the absence itself is like it calls attention. It's like if she, you know that if she was singing, then she would probably at least get some solo lines. Right. She doesn't really have any. Right. No, it makes sense. But I still. It's funny though. Taylor Swift concert we go to sing let it grow well it does make me wonder because this is

Starting point is 00:26:42 from a little while ago so I'm like is this from a point in her years ago right yeah I'm like is this in a point in her career where they were maybe trying to transition her into more acting and they didn't want her to sing like oh maybe this isn't like if they made this now and cast Taylor Swift I'm like she I bet she would be singing

Starting point is 00:26:59 right right yeah in the original production the Wonsler was supposed to sing a song called Biggering out of how bad can I be, which can be heard in the official soundtrack as the last song. Unfortunately, the song was cut because it was way too dark of a song that kids and adults could enjoy together. And the production crew wouldn't let it be used. Wow. Now I got to hear that song. When trees begin to grow again around the Wensler's house before he comes out to water them,

Starting point is 00:27:27 bird song is faintly heard in the background. The bird song matches that used when the Swamy Swans are introduced in the 1972 cartoon special. Ah, it's fun. I'm going to have to check that out. Yep. Final one, John. What do we got? The Onsler who cuts down all the trees plays a guitar. Another word for guitar is

Starting point is 00:27:47 an axe. Yay. Oh my God. I should have clocked that. Are you mad at yourself? I am so furious. They had that big ax-mobile and everything. Oh, Andrew. It's all good, Mr. Guitar Man. If only he had chopped the tree down with the guitar, that would have been that would have been something that would have been too on that over uh to avert and

Starting point is 00:28:09 uh on the news and look now they're advertising an electric car at us yes yes go green john anyways guys if you have stuck with us this long we appreciate it um let us know in the comment section what did you think of dr seuss's the lorax is this your favorite interpretation of a dr seuss book made into an animated or or a live action film might be cat in the hat with michaelner's i don't We've got to watch Cat in the Hat. I haven't seen it, actually. So I can't talk crap about it. If it is as bad as some people have said, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:28:41 I've heard it is quite a challenge to get through it. But I haven't seen it, so I don't know. I will accept that challenge. Yeah, I'll accept it to do it. Should anybody throw it our way. John and myself would definitely like to do more Dr. Seuss films or just any animated films, but are there others that you'd like myself, John, or anyone else on the team to react to? Let us know in the comments.

Starting point is 00:28:59 What do you want thing one and thing two to react to? Yes, exactly. But yeah, let us know in the comments. We'd love to hear from you guys. And go plant a tree. Yes, go plant a tree. Go water, some, breathe some fresh air. Don't cut down trees.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Go touch some grass. Yeah. Go get some O'Hare air. Get some diet air. For free, diet air, right? Flavored air, sugar-free air. There's going to be a whole line of that stuff. Yes.

Starting point is 00:29:23 Yes. Anyways, thanks for joining us, guys. We'll see you next time. Later. Thank you.

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