The Reel Rejects - THE MANDALORIAN 3x3 Review & Breakdown | Chapter 19 "The Convert"

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

MANDALORIAN MEETS ANDOR?! We React To The Mandalorian Season 3 Ep 3 giving our Breakdown, Easter Eggs, Ending Explained & Spoilers Review featuring Din Djarin (Pedro Pascal), Bo-Katan, Grogu (Baby Yod...a), Dr Pershing, Elia Kane, return to Coruscant, Clone Wars connections, & SO MUCH MORE for the Disney Plus series. #TheMandalorian #TheMandalorianSeason3 #starWars #disney #disneyplus #pedropascal #clonewars - Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects - Support The Channel By Checking Out Our Bomb A** Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch - POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 Wow Wow I don't know where this show's going And I'm loving it I'm loving it And I don't know where it's going Cool It's great.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Wow. Damn, this is different. This is very, very different. They're going big here. I like how we cut back to this jar and them. I'm glad that we did. Yeah. Kind of really close to the book of bobovette.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Can't dedicate a whole episode of someone else. It was a nice like Oreo. Remember how fun the first episode was? Yeah. Bet you wish you could go back there now. It got so dark in the last two episodes. This is the way. All right. That was awesome. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Wow, so different. So different in every way. I mean, wasn't there a character recently who said that some line that was clever about New Republican Empire not being too different from each other? We're seeing it. Yeah, I think any bureaucracy is going to have these shortcomings. And I love that. Not America. Yeah, do we talk about? We're perfect.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We are perfect. We've been perfect. We're the only generations worth of We have never swayed. Not once. We just keep getting better. Not once.
Starting point is 00:02:07 No, I mean, it was so cool going back to Corrisson and seeing as much as things have changed, they also haven't. And we learn no lessons at all ever in both our real history
Starting point is 00:02:19 and in Star Wars history. But what a tone. I mean, that, it felt like Andor. It did feel like Andor. Just a little bit CGI er You could tell that volume therapy time
Starting point is 00:02:34 I'll get my one complaint out of the way my one complaint Because everything else I really actually loved about this episode My one little complaint is that This was the first time in all of Mandalorian Where I was like I'm very much aware Of the CGI this time
Starting point is 00:02:50 And I'm normally not hyper aware So something about when you step in a corsont And that clone wars is in any prequel thing yeah it's the one part i don't want to like heart too much on it because i was barely i barely ever notice it with the show well yeah it's like it's such a lighting heavy place and such a spread out and sleek place too that i think it's yeah it's really hard to get everything exactly right and your ability to build any kind of practical aspect of that set it's just infinitely more difficult than it is when you're in grungeville yeah yeah uh yeah but
Starting point is 00:03:22 no i mean they had the same issue too and obi won you know and in the flashback sequences. Obi-Wan. Hello, that. Yeah, but it's, I'm just so stoked that all of my expectations, and I feel like everyone keeps getting thrown off course of wherever we think this is going to go. Yeah. I mean, even like, clearly, it was like, oh, she's clearly the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And then for that minute, we're like, oh, wait a second, she's the good guy. And like, oh, no, wait, she is the bad guy. Well, I never thought for a second. even when he was caught, because she kept agging him on. She kept saying, like, I still think she's a good guy. Go get this shit. Go get it.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Go get it. Oh, no, look at your back. She did lure him and push him into a tree. I don't see it that way. I saw a friend who was simply trying to help her friends see the light. Oh, yeah. The burning visceral light of a mind. Yeah, no, I mean, it was.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I mean, I love when we get these, like, World War II espionage, like, thriller things out of Star Wars. And I feel like Star Wars, historically speaking, it's always lending from real history and its storytelling. And this was such a good example. I mean, like, the idea of, like, yeah, what happened to the Imperial soldiers and they're brought in and their skills are used for the New Republic in, like, the same way that, like, NASA hired Nazis to, like, build the space program. And I think that's just a fun thing to play around with. I mean, yeah, it has the fun with like the charade of nationalism with the New Republic, you know, like look how great and prosperous everything is, but we're going to just hunt all the bad shit. And we actually do some real evil shit to make sure you conform. But we're going to pitch it to you like it's something of beauty, but not in the way the end. Like they do a lot of it. I really like that they're actually handling that. And I was really, I was willing to not cut back to Dindjaran in Boketan for this episode. It would have been a weird structure if it was just the beginning. And then just Pershing and... Did you get her name?
Starting point is 00:05:28 No, they haven't even released the cast for this. Son of a bitch. It's just Pedro Pescal and Carl Weathers who did not appear. Oh, man. But is that actress from Quantumania? She was Jitari. We could rewind him. Oh, she was.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yes. I mean, yeah, she's briefly in season two. But yeah, I mean, I thought she gave a great performance. I think it's really cool that you got these two characters. Pershing who's appeared a few times by now. But to get these two characters to really, expand on their screen time and flesh out the amount of characters but also really allow these actors to really act like really get them some journey to go on and uh uh especially for person
Starting point is 00:06:07 to get such an inner conflict who's who has such a there's something so tragic about this guy because i do think he's very sincere in wanting to have done good like we've seen him help out in in season two we saw him really help out when he was caught him's like no don't worry i'm to show you how to get to grok of him and I help you out and it wasn't like you have me caught I'm trying to get to get you like he was really trying to be a positive aid to them and you could see that he felt terrible about the way everything was going that he was sort of his hand was being forced yeah so I do I do feel like pitiful for the guy and and then her you know like I just don't allow myself to be swayed by such bullshit I she would hurt evil at the
Starting point is 00:06:49 at the end that was that went hard sinister man she was she was she was too doing him a favor. I mean, what kind of life is this guy really got to look forward to? Am I right? If biscuits are the best you got, you know. No, I completely agree. And I feel like something that the Mandalorian has done a great job of is bringing to life some of these imperial caricatures
Starting point is 00:07:17 in a way that really lets you care about them. And like we saw it last season, uh with uh bill burr's uh character mayfield yeah which i just i loved how all that played out and i think this is such an interesting dynamic um you know i i feel what what she was saying about like her upbringing and she didn't really have a choice and all of that i'm i'm sure she's going to have a pretty compelling motivation for being aligned with the empire uh and and i'm excited to really quick to interrupt you believe just to clarify you believe that she what she's doing is not...
Starting point is 00:07:56 Because I was like, there's two ways I could take this what's happening with her. One, she's secretly doing some empire shit. Or two, she's been so brainwashed by a new republic by all these like experimental things she's doing this. She's doing this in certain... But she's going about the methods that she learned
Starting point is 00:08:12 from the empire, which is the full-on punishment. I think she's looking to create a true democratic... No. Great misunderstanding. No, I definitely think you know the the imperial remnant what's left of it Operation Cinder which you know they talked about a little bit in season two
Starting point is 00:08:30 like there is that first order you know that contingency plan of the empire and I think she's a loyalist and subscribes to it and that means embedding herself I mean she did a double whammy here number one she like took a player off the chess board that was really could completely change the the trajectory of the galaxy by bringing cloning back
Starting point is 00:08:55 and then two, cheering the trust of the New Republic as, oh, here's this really talented former Imperial that very clearly cares about the New Republic. And they seem pretty naive and accepting of people. I'm fascinated as to what they're going to attempt to say about the
Starting point is 00:09:12 New Republic in doing this because it does imply, yeah, like her cranking it all the way up in the end goes really hard in a way I wasn't expecting on a Star Wars. And so I was wondering, like, Are they telling the truth to him when they're like, yeah, this is very similar to a mind flare, but don't worry. It's like electroshock therapy. We're like, it's still used today to a much lesser extent and can actually help you.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And so, yeah, I'm wondering, it's like, are they going to comment on the incompetence of an organization like the New Republic? Or are they going to kind of liken authoritarianism to authoritarianism, you know, when it all goes awry or bureaucracy is a better way to put that. Well, I think look no further than the sequels, right? like the whole idea of the resistance. Seals. Sequels. The sequels. The sequels.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Mine. Just look north. Just go outside and look at the Seals. It's late. Find a guy who's last name is a Segal. Look at it. Was that her last name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So, but look to the sequel. Yes. Is that, that I do it? No. Uh, you have the, you know, Leia gets frustrated with the new republic for this exact reason because this just gets continuously worse over the course of the years and ultimately there's like a very obvious evil threat on the edge of the galaxy being the first order and i i feel like that's what the mandolorean and a lot of this the content that's being made
Starting point is 00:10:40 uh you know between the originals and the sequel trilical trilical trilogies uh we're making up for for things that would have been really nice to have had fleshed out prior to the sequels coming out. It's true. I mean, yeah, we did have that episode. I think Carl Wethers wrote to that episode when they introduced Operation Center or at least the interest in title of it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Which comes from Battlefront, too. Got it. Yeah, where we see it kind of firsthand destroying cities. And it was basically the emperor's like, well, if you won't have... Oh, no, that was Mayfeld. That was Mayfeld, when he talks about... I'm thinking about the different episode.
Starting point is 00:11:20 That was a Rick family. You blah, blah, blah, blah, my episode. Yes, but you're absolutely right. And it was, they attacked imperial worlds, including one of the planets that was supposed to be destroyed and that was saved was Naboo. Ah, yeah. Well, I mean, we are getting to,
Starting point is 00:11:35 as I was thinking about the episode when they did see the, like, yeah, you're right. We got to get the snokes and all that shit. We do. We do. We do have to go there, don't we have to go there. But I think it's interesting because, obviously, they're setting that up,
Starting point is 00:11:48 But I feel like they're also setting up something even grander outside of that, you know. They got it. Please don't just fill in the blank for her. No. Be the weirdest effort exerted. You know, I think the question is, where do the Mandalorians fit in? And I think that's what I'm most excited about it, because it's the one question mark that, like, what is the significance of them coming back beyond like, oh, it's great. They're back on Mandelor.
Starting point is 00:12:17 or like they're clearly going to have some kind of implication on the greater galaxy and the direction it goes. And I think, you know, we look towards the unknown regions and all the other stuff. But I won't get into that too. Yeah, why do you think Boca Tan's not mentioning the Mithasar? I feel, well, I mean, I feel like that could be like a major asset of some kind. If she could come back riding that thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Keep your dirty dark saber. I feel like. I don't know. That could be an easy way to sort of allie yourself with like a primal force that exists on this place. And especially if the pockets of the remaining, you know, Mandalorians across the galaxy don't believe that it's possible or that it's there. I mean, this moment obviously puts at least a bit of credibility to the idea that it is there. The planet is not cursed and inhabitable, uninhabitable. But I don't know. Yeah, I feel like that that's like some weird ace up the sleeve or something like that. that she can, maybe she can send them in there unprepared
Starting point is 00:13:18 or maybe she can use it to her advantage or something. I think what's interesting is originally I thought that we were setting up, and I think it's still the case between the armor and Bocatan, but I feel like she's smart and she's out of Mandalorians. Like her people are gone, but she just found a whole new crew. She's going to try to use them.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think that that's really the power dynamic that's going to play out instead of it being people that we haven't met on her side. And then, you know, but in terms of the Mythosaur, part of me really wonders, like, genuinely, I wonder if she doesn't even necessarily believe it herself. If she's wondering if in that moment she had some kind of, I think her question to Dinn was sincere. Did you see something? Like, I mean, if you saw a sea monster underwater while you're going scuba diving, You know, you saw
Starting point is 00:14:14 with the Loch Ness monster You'd be like Anybody else say anything You wouldn't explicitly say Like I saw the lockness monster And you'd spend the rest of your life Questioning if you ever really did But this isn't like
Starting point is 00:14:24 The real world where you encounter something That is large of the wild She's in the Star Wars role Like she's not a lot of crazy shit Yes but big monsters are all around Yeah But this is This is like the ultimate
Starting point is 00:14:37 I mean this is like One day you're like Going through the North Pole And it's like all my God, that's actually Santa Claus. That's what the equivalent of the Mythosaur is and that's coming from a Jew.
Starting point is 00:14:52 You would be especially surprised to see Santa Claus. Actually, we know he's real. You just can't tell the Christians. Yeah, I could see it be in that case where I feel like there's something antagonistic up her sleeve. Maybe
Starting point is 00:15:10 she's already been there and she's already tamed it. Yeah. And maybe she's just like, hey, you didn't, you didn't see that, but my secret's still cool, right? It's not so easy to tame a Mitha Mitha. Yeah, but you know, she's had time. And everybody thinks it's a cursed planet.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Especially on their territory underwater. Very, very, very hard. She's on a spiritual journey to find her faith right now. And I don't know if she there's no one would just suddenly slap a fucking hell on her head forever. No, no, no. I mean, and I don't, I don't think
Starting point is 00:15:40 it's like that as much as she's getting back to basics you know at its core what does it really mean to be a Mandalorian and you know she originally
Starting point is 00:15:52 mandolore with the darks violence but before mandolore was ruled by mandolars with the Dark Sabre it was ruled by those who rode Mythosaur so you know and I think
Starting point is 00:16:07 going back to those ancient roots and she's seen the folly of she's done every everything else she's tried every other path so maybe this is the way uh nicely done nicely done thank you well i mean yeah there's a lot of great things to pull from here but i i do think that just overall as an episode they they had a great sense of intrigue and uh strongs they had that great way of like never giving in too much as saying like there's something up here even though you could just feel the whole time like something is going to go wrong like you just sort of
Starting point is 00:16:42 trust the show that this can't all go good no way in hell you know something's going to go wrong and even though the trust for i can't remember name but whatever it is whatever the trust for it was is a wavering place it did a great job on i didn't see it coming at all what was actually going to happen at that moment so i think they did an excellent job on take like this is the first time the mandoloreans done an episode where you are right this is the first time i've done one where you are not with Mando you're not with Dingerian for most of it.
Starting point is 00:17:18 It's kind of a risk for an episode to do where it could feel like disconnected but you also have faith that it's actually going to connect unlike you know like something like well Boba Fett does or you're just like let's just go to the other show let's go to Mandu again. This doesn't feel that way
Starting point is 00:17:33 it's as we're scoping out a little bit I feel like book of Boba Fett and where that fits into all of this is the combination of content that's being made right now is collectively one series definitely um and they're building to something bigger yeah the mandelor the movie uh yeah but i thought this did i think they learned some lessons maybe from boba fat and did nicely to make it so that i think the bookends of this
Starting point is 00:18:05 episode complement the middle part really well because you're at two polar ends of the spectrum basically you're at the sort of you know, crest of reaching toward the, you know, the highest potential on Corrassant and rebuilding this new republic here with these new ideologies. And then on the opposite end, you have this really dedicated, like, ancient ideology that is finding its way closer to its roots, kind of going backwards in a sense. And you have two people... You're pushing in Bocatan, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, you have Bocatan, you have the girl. So it's like they're both kind of
Starting point is 00:18:39 embedded in a way into a different version. of something familiar for them and now you're watching the kind of moral array of things that could happen and I feel like you have the dark version happening on Corrassan and what could potentially be the light version
Starting point is 00:18:53 but I also agree that there seems to be some other shoe that's going to drop with Bogatan that may put her at odds and I feel like they proportioned this well to have those themes complement nicely and also feel punchy with the adventure. You bring up such a great point John like I think
Starting point is 00:19:09 the moral of the story is the new republic no lessons have been learned the mandolarians nothing but lessons happen yeah yeah and we're going to see the results of that well i mean it helps that pershing and and bocatan thematically there's there's something that thematically feels similar to the experience that they're going through of a questioning of their belief system you know and uh what they have to like especially with bocatan like and how can i contribute to the new system of things yeah yeah but like do I Pershing is part of a new community
Starting point is 00:19:46 when you Republic versus Empire Boca Tan's not part of this Mandalorian culture that she has always been like I don't know about these guys her in her own culture which is such a fascinating we're going to a place thematically in Star Wars that we've never gone
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