The Reel Rejects - THE MANDALORIAN 3x8 - SEASON FINALÉ Review & Breakdown | Chapter 24 "The Return"

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

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There were no spies. I didn't subscribe to any of these spies theories. I thought they were all ridiculous. I think our little Astromack friend was the other spy. I don't know. There was no other spies. There was very little payoff. I was like, it's just a totally episode, guys.

Definitely got some thoughts on this finale. Definitely got some thoughts on the show. It was like a Marvel ending. A little bit. A little bit. I like that they've set themselves to go back to their roots. There is no post-credit scene. Oh, it's about to start.

Oh, there's the book of Boba-Fet that's going to start. That's what happens were you stupid Star Wars fans. You all this have to be done. It's after this, Greg. They just wanted to... We have to respect the Deutsch. I always hated Star Wars. Why do you think about all...

Ace, you could die horribly. But no, there it is. It's loading. In the words of my best friend, John. Oh. Campia, he says, don't turn your speculation into expectation. Good, that's a bar. And you know what? I hope people abided by that when watching this episode. Because I can imagine that Star Wars theory right now is yelling at his live stream while we are filming this.

Sure. There was an extraordinary amount of payoff in this episode. You think so? No, absolutely. But Favro said it would be completely satisfied. I was satisfied in the sense that it was a beautiful visual spectacle. And while watching it, I loved every second of it. And the minute that it ended and I realized that I didn't get any other things that I was hoping I'd get,

I was left with this fleeting reminder that I am a Star Wars fan. Yeah. And this is just the life that we live. Yeah, guys, listen, I never subscribe. I never subscribed to the whole, there's a spy amongst us theory. I thought that was just how they have it. Spies. Plural. Correct.

I think it was just the episode. It's literally just the title of the episode. And it meant something there. And then everyone read way too much into it. But who was the other spy? Or maybe it will mean something much further Oh my God Everyone let it go

Listen I'm I think they do that They go wouldn't we screw up last couple years Okay well I think in season two of Tales of the Jedi I think that we'll get some payoff to who that spy Maybe the spy was Dave Filoni in the canteen Yeah no listen overall I still I thought this episode was fine I thought it was fun

It was fun I think it's the weakest of the finalies of all three seasons, I felt no stakes, weirdly no stakes. And there was like fun visual spectacle. And yeah, I think overall this is not in my opinion. And if you don't have this opinion, I am so happy for you. My opinion, this is easily the weakest season out of all three seasons of Mandalorian. I cannot, I'm not, I'm a little surprised. because it took a long time for this season to come out. I felt like they've had a decent amount of time to plan it.

I don't really know why this one is the one that seems to have the least type of emotional impact for me, maybe not for you. However, I do think that this was just a fun predictable road finale. Like this, it's just as by the numbers as it can get. And I did it. There was like no surprises other than, okay, they advanced. that he's called din grogoo now cool cool uh i grow goo to me is i was surprised by how little he can do i mean he came in with the fire thing but i'm like you you did that in the first season this is just a little bit more a little bit higher up there he didn't immediately

fall asleep afterwards he just sat down so that's progress yeah there's a lack of there's seriously a lack of stakes for me here and um we got some answers about why Moff was trying to get the clones. Even that just didn't do it for me. Yeah. Yeah, like it was a mistake to destroy all the clones and then fake us out with another Moff Gideon death. Or kill him again, either way.

Yeah. I think it's a bit of a waste of so many cool, like so many cool portents when you're in there, and you're like, oh, man, this is his plan. And he's, I don't know, I guess these are the only ones he had. and he left this place completely abandoned while he walked off to lure them, you know, to him. I don't know.

Yeah, the maneuvering of this plan on his end didn't make the most sense to me if those are the most precious thing on this planet. Definitely, like, straight out of the, like, poor evil villain playbook of like, oh, I've captured you, but I'm going to prolong your death until you my evil master plan. And then it gets out.

Yeah, I mean, even Din breaking out was, Like, that to me was such a wonderful high-stakes thing going in where it's like, oh, great. Our protagonist is in a genuinely precarious situation or it's hard to imagine him breaking out. And that just felt like immediately. Two seasons in and the, what were they in the second season? The Troopers. Death Troopers? Yeah.

The death troopers. No, it's the same exact thing. Only this time they didn't come out of their little. weren't they like robots yeah but this one they're people in there yeah yeah yeah it's it's a formula well the death troopers in the second season he had to fight one and that was a struggle and and scary and the thought of them all breaking through when when they before he had to eject them all in the space yeah that was that was more intense just the suspense of them about to break through yeah anything with these troopers than both of these episodes it is it is surprising

the underwhelming and yeah they reclaim mandolore uh cool i can't wait to see bogatown lose it again uh yeah just i'm i'm i would have been totally content with us being like cool look at all this work we put into navarro let's like spend some time build some more suspensers it just the more i think about it the more i don't like it i'm not gonna lie yeah the more i think about it the more i'm like well i'm leaning towards it's kind of sucked yeah it's a very jaggedly organized season Just the inside of the Walt Disney Company at the time of development for this season was not in a great place. And, you know, I'm going to write it off.

I think, and I say this with, like, nothing but love and appreciation of my heart for Star Wars. We know they can do better. They gave us, like, so many little nuggets of it this season. And in previous seasons, I think they knocked it out of the park. upon a time, this was your favorite Star Wars show? No, I have none. Now you're a Mandalorian planet, Android.

No, I mean, I thought the battle to reclaim Mandelor was epic and fun and the Calvary collision of like the Mandalorians for the Imperial Commandos and Jetbacks was just like visually. It looked really cool.

It was really cool, but it has to be more than that. This felt the most cartoony this season felt, other than a couple of episodes, this felt the most cartoony. And I know some people really like that because it makes them think of Clone Wars. When to me, this show was not Clone Wars. Yeah, I love Clone Wars, but it's its own thing. It's an animated show.

This is the thing that separated this was like the gritty western sci-fi bounty hunter show. And it doesn't need to remain that. uh but when you literally have like yeah the ending feels like they're trying to course correct back to that yeah in a way and i would be curious to know because i'm sure that they like the way everything went down with dinjarn and grogoo and and the whole boba fete alley-up of getting them back together feels like a machination from the studio whereas like them retaking mandor or feels like a thing that that could very well suit the show and yet it also feels like

just because of the way things wrap up like a thing they kind of had to do or something like that. I felt nothing for them. No. Yeah, absolutely. No, even like before Mandelor, I was like, I should be crying right now.

Like, as a Star Wars fan, I've been waiting for this moment for a long time and it just, it was lacking. The focus was off as a whole. It's not hard to see from the beginning, of like where you're headed at the top of the season you know that reclaiming mandolore will be a huge thing and a huge

theme and as much as I very like if you treat this more and I feel like it's a trope to say this but more like a game of Thrones in the way that you really realize the clashes of ideologies and the scope and the space instead of going like season six or seven style where it's like we're just sipping around

and it's action and stuff if they really bothered to make those debates and those ideological clash is tangible and focus that across all these episodes because it does feel like there's like a chasm in the middle where like a bunch of other stuff happens. Like episode three, that could have gone a lot better in a more nuanced game of thronesy kind of season.

Not to say that you shouldn't have some of that fun. I think that fun is I enjoyed episode six a lot. However, yeah, I feel like if you really wanted to drive this arc home, like this would be super meaningful And you can still have Dinn and Grogu go out on adventures afterwards, but, like, yeah, it feels like something that got relegated to a few episodes. And because it got relegated to a few episodes, it became, let's just do the action parts. Yeah. Well, I think in one of the early episodes, I made a strange comparison to the same struggle that the Walking Dead had from its early seasons to when all of a sudden it wanted to be a Game of Thrones.

It wanted to be bigger, but it didn't feel earned. and it was executed very poorly. But the time that you got done with it, they kind of killed the best part of the show. And, you know, I think, and this is just absolute speculation from, like, putting my producer cap on. You know, I think the master plan,

the cinematic story event that they're working towards, when they were doing seasons one and two, I think they were just focused on making a good story. I think this season put a lot of pressure to set those pieces in motion, but the story was very discombobulated, and, you know, I know that they were supposed to have Rangers of the New Republic, which would have helped supplement. I feel like they asked this show to do a few too many things, while also just breaking an otherwise wonderful formula

that was a refreshing return to why people like Star Wars in the first place. Yeah, there's a lack of an emotional core in this season. The biggest task feels somehow very small. Yeah. There's no catharsis there by the end. I think it might have been more interesting if there was a, as first it was like, oh, we just can't inhabit this place because it's like dangerous to be here. It would have been more rewarding if the obstacle was taking down imperial remnants that are occupying the territory of Mandalore. And that's the hardest obstacle they have to overcome. That way there's an actual. Now it just feels like they got a place when they already have. had the whole thing with Navarro because I know Mandelor means it's Mandelor so of course it means something but now there wasn't any true again there wasn't any true

type of emotional payoff to it all but hey let's go through some other shit that happens in here just one quick note the and this is a Game of Throne spoiler when the Dark Sabre was crushed that reminded me of that same empty fleeting

feeling that I got when the Iron Throne was melted Like where I was like Wow all this build up and all this hype And we're just And I was like Maybe the mythosaur Like maybe there's something here that

And Yeah they just treated that moment Like it was Just another sword gone But I guess they can repair it in some ways It's not about the sword guys It's about the person wielding it I guess

Ding Grosue Who is part Mandalorian and part Jedi will build. And not part night, too. And part night of... Of Jack Black. Of Lizzo. That's right.

That's right. Let it be known. That is canon. And they will be back. Ah, God. Well, yeah, we're all the allies. We're... I feel like we spent so much time building an absurd cohort of characters.

Could have had it on your left moment. Yeah. Well, that's exactly. Like, at least give us, like, a... That portals moment. They didn't really do. anything with Moff Gideon. They really didn't.

It was, it felt very tacked on. Yeah. Of, he's back. Again. He's back again. Third time in a row. We're going to fight him just like we did at the end and beat him. And he's got a stronger arbor now.

And the fight with him and Bo, that should have been very, like, there's, there was no tension. They're really needed to like slow down and simmer. And this should be a moment for Bo. Katan to fight again I said it in two episodes ago like contextually there was so much they could have played with here to just slow it down make this episode 50 minutes instead of 40 and and that way you could have some tension here so that way when they fight like she lost to him this is her revenge this is her this is her reclaiming right now and then they they don't give it's just like a

fight season that happens no that's exactly what it is and and it's it's just really frustrating because Because this is a, for fans, particularly of Beau, like, this is a character buildup that's been going on for almost 10-plus years now. And to have that just fall absolutely flat, I mean, I keep thinking back to like the Bad Bad Baddatch season two finale. How did that have emotional, so much more emotional way than this episode. and they were able to create stakes. Whereas here, there's a lot of characters that I love. There's a lot of things at stake, but just none of it landed.

No, this season most part became just, it went from like fine to lackluster to a couple of things that I would love. You know, I love like the second episode, last episode I loved. Yeah. I always were fine. Yeah.

You said something a few episodes ago, Greg, about how... Dingreg. Dingreg. Dingreg. Yes. Yes. Dengreggo. Where...

Grego, my ego. Sorry. Everything feels fake. It feels very artificial. I mean, it almost feels like watching a fan film during some of these episodes. Oh, yeah. The visuals are so not. Like the last sequence.

in the cantina with blue is just like I don't know I just it felt so not I know it's silly to say but like not real yeah um which is such a divergence from the first two seasons oh yeah the cinema there's something about the cinematography that is not like there's a lot of cool visuals in this episode but there's something about the cinematography with the lighting that is not visually striking anymore yeah and it doesn't it doesn't breed a certain type of atmosphere anymore yeah I'll give them the I think the the the area combat stuff and especially for how hard those effects can be did look beautiful and I think often times Rick Famoyewa is the director who sells this world the best to me but I would agree

like yeah this season is sort of permeated by an uncanny valley of some sort and I don't know I mean for me the way that wrapped up with that whole fight and him crashing the the you know ailing ship into the ground and everything like that sort of felt like it didn't really amount to

a heck of a lot other than engulfing them in flame which in rich respect was not a great idea no I mean I get that it's like all you can do when you're just crashing and you're like maybe I'll just use this to my advantage it's a big planet you know but I think it would have been a stronger choice if they just actually let Moff Gideen get away like instead of because it's either a fake out again or he's just going to be dead and either way it feels yeah like a little

stunted right when this season he was seeming to peak into you know like no but he's still scared He's still formidable and commanding. And like, even on the heels of this loss of all his clones, like, where would that drive the character? So he was, so it was the implication that Moff was the first step to Snoke, like this plan? No, so that's the lost opportunity. I mean, in the previous episode where they talked about the Shadow Council and you had Hawks talking about Operation Necromancer, that's Snoke. that's the

he just stole one cloner and then decided to like make force sensitive versions of himself which would have also just been cool to see a bunch of like you know and they could have all been like messed up looking and had like pseudo force I mean there's so many things

you could have done but instead we just got like the most milk toast possible version of it was get an answer to what was happening yeah and even the answer was like kind of perplexing at the end of the day. Like, oh, they're like, but they're not you. You're not going to be able to enjoy being these people. How long does he think until they turn on him with my first read?

That is an illogical plan. We've all seen that blackmail. No, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, I mean, I think there was a golden opportunity to let Gideon get away. and what I had been holding on to as a fan is something I think they've hyped up Thrawn in words so much but we've yet to see anything that makes him

an actually scary, formidable character. In my version, he would have ridden off on the Mythosaurus. I would have just... I mean, that would break your heart, but that would be fascinating, no. John. No, it would have been nice to see Thron, you know, if they're going to do an introduction have him just like effortlessly

wipe Gideon off the map and at least then like oh okay we're replacing this one big bad with a bigger blue bad per Marvel I don't know I don't know I just I this I'm not going to lie this show this season kind of ruined my love for these characters

I don't I lost a lot of my love that I feel when I watch this show for the characters. No, it's super fair. I mean, I think they've got a nice setup. You know, I think with Din Jarn and Din Grogu going doing missions for the New Republic. It opens up to them going to the unknown regions and, you know, playing a role in the Asoka story.

But I'm with you. Yeah. This is leaving me a little dejected. The more I think about it, the worse it just gets in my world. watch and uh this is the real and i really i really i really did love this show like a lot like i want reacting to the first two seasons and then rewatching it on my own was like yeah i love this show i love the first two i love the two episodes that were only nando focus in bobo fat more than most of the show this season uh yeah it's weird does feel like it came from a post bobo show

I was even thinking if the Mithasar showed up to save the day, I'd be like, like Book of Boeuf. Yeah. But anyway, it's always next season, Greg. So that sounds like they're course correcting. That's the thing about Star Wars fans. We may be upset.

We may be angry. We might tweet our dismay and said not so availed threats to executives at the Walt Disney Company. but you should not do. But at the end of the day, we keep coming back because Star Wars is an abusive relationship. Yes, it is.

That's just the way it is. All right, guys. What did you think? What was your favorite part? There was some beautiful visuals. I want to hear the optimistic, upbeat side of the Star Wars community. The Reject Nation community is usually very optimistic.

They're so happy. I appreciate that. Do we think Lizzo is secretly a Jedi who escaped Order 66? Yes. Is Jack Black actually one of the Mof Gideon clones?

Yes. Yes. Find out next season on... Yes. The Manorian. Yes. The Madelorian. Which hurts my soul to say.

I didn't... It was okay. It was fine. It's fine. All right, guys. May the Force be with you until the next one, guys. And thanks for being here, Michael.

Oh, thanks for having me, Craig.