The Reel Rejects - THE PRINCESS DIARIES 2: ROYAL ENGAGEMENT (2004) MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:00:42 youtube can see him here right genaldi how you feeling dog arun i feel good i feel delightful uh this was a fun time you know not not i think the first one is a better movie overall so i agree this this one definitely feels more like hijinks and stuff surrounding a theme. And it's not like, you know, a bad direction to take it or anything like that. But yeah, like, I had a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was funny and charming. It didn't quite like hit me in the feels to the same degree that the first one. And I don't think it

Starting point is 00:01:16 like breathed quite. Oh, family and Maurice was the first ones. Yeah. It's like the first one caught me off guard by having like, you know, the fun and the charm. But also having like, you know, a real nice emotional eye line to Mia and the whole circumstance and just like all the supporting cast and the subplots and threads felt really proportional and it felt like a movie that, yeah, like got to breathe and just be a film despite its genre, whereas this one feels like it fits more into like a genre and it feels more like a sequel, especially of the time. And in a lot of ways, like that's cool because obviously, you know,

Starting point is 00:01:56 you're in Genovian hours and the first one you're spending most of your time in San Francisco. So there's a fun difference of flavor and certainly like the designs, the sets, the locations, the costumes, all of the, you know, different accoutrements are, you know, ornate and beautiful. The cast all really showed up and had a good time. You know, like, and no shade to like TV or TV writing. Shonda Rhymes is like a TV powerhouse these days. like she has her whole own production company, a volley of different shows.

Starting point is 00:02:27 This felt more like a TV flavored thing, maybe. Like, yeah, like it, I am curious as to whether this went to theaters or to, like, a video release. Like, it seems like it's too star-studded to be a video release, but it does feel like it's falling more toward that side of the Disney scale, I guess. Well, to be fair, I feel like Chris Pine wasn't a name until late, much later in his career. And the same thing with Anne Hathaway, because I think, remember correctly, the First Princess Dyer's was her, like, film debut. Yeah. So, yeah, it makes sense.

Starting point is 00:03:02 And obviously, you know, as time goes on, you know, people become more successful, which makes it seem like it be a bigger deal and whatnot. But, yeah, I kind of echo some of the same sentiments as you. But I like the first one more, but I think this one was had its own sense of charm to it. The fact that, you know, we get to have all these external royalty cases. characters and even though the premise of it was about her getting engaged and finding this husband so she can maintain her throne it did have these other side things about her kind of connecting with the people and then her connecting with the little girls and I feel like that part of it was more for the fans of the first one because I have to imagine putting myself in

Starting point is 00:03:44 the lens of who this movie was made for I imagine it was made for you know young girls of the time who want to see themselves as princesses and like vicariously living that being like a girl from america now and set and put in this royal setting and then a bunch of younger girls kind of be giving uh getting a chance to be a part of that and you know the wish fulfillment of like oh the prince charming looking handsome guy then the other part of me is like well i feel like some kids might be a little little bored with all the parliament talk so i don't know so i'm like is that for the parents is all the the hijinks and the sleepover stuff for

Starting point is 00:04:24 the little girls okay 2004 oh there sounds huh okay thank you Joe thank you there I appreciate you post credits monologue there was a little nice yeah

Starting point is 00:04:44 yeah but um yeah and you know the uncle was like kind of a I don't want to say cartoon character but he's more on a little one note he just wanted his nephew want to maintain tradition you know which is a common motivation for for antagonists in films he's a mustache twirling guy for sure and i mean yeah like john rees davies certainly showed up and like played it believably but yeah there's not much more to it but yeah and he is like you know a world-class talent he's been in tons stuff you know it's cool to have him here but also at the same time like you know a role with some depth

Starting point is 00:05:19 might have been cool yeah and yeah i felt like a lot of the story was a little bit more so padding into the narrative than it was uh integral to the the arc in the plot of the the narrative you know i'm not going to judge on like hypercritical like top standards but you know just an observation as it's more for entertainment kind of just seemed like it's more made for for tv even though the film didn't look tvs so to speak but i think just narratively and writing wise was probably it has hijinks that feel like it's much more of a hijinks

Starting point is 00:05:55 kind of movie or more of like us you know like oh here's a bunch of scenarios we can do in the royal setting now kind of thing and uh and something you said just now made me think of something I can't quite draw it to mind the you know like there is an element of yeah like the parliamentary stuff like I imagine

Starting point is 00:06:11 this is still for like tweens it doesn't seem like it's for like young kids necessarily and that's you know fine I think this one has less of the coming of age For twins, yeah. Yeah, it's like this one has less of the coming of age aspect, and I think that's something that the movie, the first movie, really used to its advantage

Starting point is 00:06:28 because you've got so many touching scenes with all of her close friends, mom, Julie Andrews, everybody. And Julie Andrews is certainly like her mentor character for this, her and Joe, lovely. But yeah, there's a little less of that side of things. And it's not like it's not there. She doesn't have to learn or grow or, you know, come of age again. I feel like in a weird way because, you know, finding love and also grappling with the concept

Starting point is 00:06:54 of an arranged marriage and stepping into this newfound role, like you could have still dialed up the sort of heartfelt coming of ageness. Yeah, it's like the first one I think skews a little more heartfelt, a little more toward the drama without being like a serious drama, whereas this one skews more towards the humor and more towards the fun in games and, you know, it's not like overblooded, but it's definitely like got more stuff thrown. thrown into it and you've got these bits like oh her little chambermaids or whatever and they're always like a bit which I thought was charming which is fun but you know it's like again there's a lot of bits and stuff and that one security guy is kind of a bit the security guy and

Starting point is 00:07:31 my dude Matt Walker like he is certainly like a cartoonie he he sells it well but is he's the movie as a whole I feel like has a slightly more elevated more sort of cartoon like vibe about it and it's interesting because like yeah it's the same it's Gary Marshall again so it doesn't feel like completely out of the milieu of the first movie but it does feel a little bit different and it's the kind of thing where yeah like I think the first movie is

Starting point is 00:07:57 like qualitatively like I like that movie a lot and would be thrilled to watch it again if I was watching these movies again I would happily put this on to spend more time with the characters like there's nothing that yeah like I disliked about it really it's just that yeah it's like it's just not as as rich as the first movie and it didn't catch me quite as by surprise

Starting point is 00:08:16 didn't like level up on the surprise of the first movie for me but uh but it doesn't make me curious of where do they even go with the third one because she's a queen now reject nation summer's coming up fast which means we got beach days hikes maybe one or two outdoor shoots lined up maybe and if there's one thing i've learned while getting in shape this year that hydration makes a huge difference back at the end of january i weighed 218 pounds and as of the last time i weighed myself i am 179 now six-packed gregg coming in i need it for the summer in all seriousness liquid I. And these are bags I bought. They didn't send it. I bought them myself. Liquid IV has been a constant

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Starting point is 00:11:13 first five dollar lineup prize picks run your game and that one they just announced that one not too long ago i know is she going to have to do like uh like uh you know sending her own daughter off to be the royal of someplace else yeah be curious about that um and i mean you know the the romance like it's funny to watch this now actually it's like you have raven in here who very much feels like uh oh she's big and we're disney so put her in the movie 100% But, like, the way they handled the, you know, themes by the end and the whole thing about the law, like, I actually thought that was nice. And living in a period of time where we are in a sequence of Disney remakes where they are making very clear efforts to update the messaging and, like, how they, you know, exist within the current cultural conversation. I thought this did that in a way more smooth kind of way.

Starting point is 00:12:15 Like when they finally have the whole thing of, you know, it's like you have these different threads that were reminding me of literature and like little piece. This wasn't quite a one-to-one like, you know, I think like a clueless. It's like, oh, it's the taming of the shrewer. She's the man is another like Shakespeare or that you can kind of port over, you can map it over. This had like different elements where it's like,

Starting point is 00:12:35 oh, it's a little bit like much ado about nothing or like a little bit Romeo and Julian. There are like little things in there. but yeah the way they handled the aspect of the marriage I like they didn't make her potential suitor like a jerk or have some kind of secret I liked but that was really charming the way she and her betrothed navigated that and like the things he got upset about seemed reasonable

Starting point is 00:12:59 and the fact that they're both like I like you a lot just like this is a we are both kind of dealing like I think you could have done more with that and you could have made that a deeper emotional well for the story but at the same time I did like what we got at least from that and the fact that you also have Chris Pine

Starting point is 00:13:17 who seems like he would be set up to be villainous and it's not like it's unpredictable it's pretty you could easily extrapolate like okay John Reese Davies is the real villain and Chris Pine is going to come around but like the way all of those aspects commingled her and what's his name

Starting point is 00:13:33 the Duke and Chris Pine I thought that stuff IMDB has an asterisk on the cursor because I thought that could have been way more rote than it was, and I thought that could have easily felt like a flat part of the story. But it's actually one of the things I liked a lot about the story was at least the attempt at having a less obviously predictable. And then it's a nice tie around where it's like,

Starting point is 00:14:00 okay, well, I'm not going to have this wedding. And we've made a change to the law to do away with a double standard. And like, you know, as presented by the movie, again, And it didn't feel like, I know anytime you broach these topics, people are going to, you know, freak out and cry woke. But, like, this did that in a way that didn't feel contrite or cheesy or like it was like shoved in there, you know? And him renouncing his claim and supporting her and just kind of stepping aside was like, great, you know, like without having to like highlight it in some kind of line of dialogue or pat ourselves in the back. It's like, yeah, he's choosing to do the right thing. He's throwing his support for this person that he actually has grown.

Starting point is 00:14:38 own a care for and you know feelings for beautiful like you know for the the aspects of like it's a new time and you know women should be allowed to lead in the same you know uh systems and with the same rules and regulations that any other guy you know has to put up with and there shouldn't yeah exist these double standards and like that stuff yeah i thought that was nicely handled too yeah you know it's funny i feel like this movie was made today the whole scene where they're trying to pick out the prince to begin with and then um what's his name the guy they got Joe? Yeah, Joe. Joe. Where he was like, whoa,

Starting point is 00:15:12 him and his boyfriend would disagree or whatnot. And they were like, love it. People would be like, woke, woke, woke, woke media. Well, like, good on Disney for in early 2000s, you know, being inclusive. That was nice. It's weird, because it is, it's just one moment. It's just one beat. And oftentimes in the current day and age, they will also do just one moment, just one beat.

Starting point is 00:15:33 But yeah, this didn't feel like it, it didn't feel requisite or something. Or, yeah, like a studio note or, like, yeah, a thing that we're going to tack on for brownie points in America that will get cut out for China or something. Like, it actually just felt like, yeah, of course, we're just acknowledging that this is a thing. And also, like, in the context of, like, all these royals, it's like, well, this is an open secret, which is just a nice sort of flavor of life. Like, oh, here's a suitor, but we all know, we don't really a suitor. And here's why. And they're like, yeah, I love that.

Starting point is 00:16:03 And I was like, cool. That's great. You know, that's exactly knowing who Lily is and who Mia is. totally absolutely tracks yeah and i think that was you know it was a nice inclusion i'm still questioning i guess it was give lily's inclusion was just to give somebody me to bounce off with because i don't think her her inclusion was very consequential to the narrative or her character development i got she was around a couple times she's yeah and like it and that's that's the real contrast between these two movies it's just like their relationship in the first one was

Starting point is 00:16:32 really charming and i really liked lily as a as her own character and as a friend to me and their conflicts and their resolutions and all that. And here it is nice to have her. It's supportive. You know, it's a port of friend. And problematic. But yeah, like, you know, they acknowledge who her character is thematically, you know, a couple lines of dialogue and that's better.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, exactly. You know, she's the Greta Thunberg of this universe, I guess. But in the first movie, you would way easier tell that than this one. No, for sure. But it looks like we have some facts up. All right, all right. Here we go. I was wondering this in fact.

Starting point is 00:17:06 First fact. Anne Hathaway's mother, Kate McCauley Hathaway, appeared in the movie as the choir director. I was wondering, the way they were giving her personality and the way, yeah, they like ended that beat off. I was like, you've got to be somebody.

Starting point is 00:17:19 Please. The song, Your Crown and Glory, was the first time Dame Judy, Julie Andrews had sung in public or on screen since she had throat surgery in 1997. Damn, she reportedly nailed the song on the first take and brought tears to the eyes of the crew

Starting point is 00:17:35 present. So that was in camera, too. beautiful it did feel authentic I was going to say too it felt authentic and this isn't a knock on Raven or anything but until she started singing with Raven and then there is this clash of like the Raven side of the song and again it's not her fault

Starting point is 00:17:51 it's how they produce these things but like her side of the song sounds like way shiny and pop yeah and then Julie Andrew seems like I mean you know they're harmonizing nicely and the song is going well but like the sound like you can feel a difference in like the two sounds that are clashing

Starting point is 00:18:07 You can definitely feel like That's not coming out of Raven's mouth right now Yeah, yeah, yeah It's like way more polished And Julie Andrews feels way more natural And just the timbre of her singing But yeah Despite the death of director Gary Marshall

Starting point is 00:18:19 On July 19th, 2016 Rumors still circulate rest in peace I do remember that Okay, so that was that was well after this movie But yeah I believe this can't have been a 2016 Okay, there you go I'm so bad

Starting point is 00:18:33 Andrew's the year's guy I was gonna say that would be It was a G-rated movie Oh, wow. I can see it. I mean, yeah. I've not seen a G-rated movie in a long time. And I'd never even really thought about it, so that's nice.

Starting point is 00:18:43 Like, I think the best thing about ratings are like CGI, like the best ones you don't even see, you don't even notice. But yeah, despite the death of Gary Marshall on July 19th, 2016, rumors still circulate regarding a third movie. Hector Alzondo, Dame Julie Andrews, and Anne Hathaway have all said they were returned for the third movie if the story did justice to Marshall and the first two. And I would be there, man. I would be excited for that. They're still talking about it to this day. happening they announced it oh it is like officially official official let's go

Starting point is 00:19:10 I'm excited I'm excited and and we'll see where they land in terms of the tone of everything but I'm actually a little optimistic for that the Disneyland Hotel has transformed a bedroom of the presidential suite into a recreation of Princess Mia's suite from the movie the room includes pieces

Starting point is 00:19:27 set pieces from the movie that's really cool I love that got to go stay there we got to go do a vlog we got to watch the third movie in the suite yeah do the reaction then reacts you guys heard of here first Dame Julie Andrews line, I've done a lot of flying in my time is a reference to her most iconic role with Disney, Mary Poppins. I should have guessed it.

Starting point is 00:19:46 There's only one spoiler. No, no, no, there's a cameo. The acts like the three stooges. That was an interesting cameo, Stanley. Yeah. At the Royal Garden Party, Princess Mia asked a guest how her three grandchildren, Lily Charlotte and Sam were doing these in the names of Gary Marshall's three children. The guest was Gary's wife, Barbara Marshall.

Starting point is 00:20:07 And apparently Dame Julie Andrews did perform her own stunt in the mattress surfing scene. Ah, yes, I'm so happy. The way they shot that, I was not sure. But yeah, that's hell yeah, you called that. In the beginning scenes when Princess Mia is explaining what has gone on since the first movie, she says that she and Michael have broken up and he is now touring with his band. Robert Schwartzman declined to do this movie in order to focus on his band Rooney.

Starting point is 00:20:31 Is he related to Jason Schwartzman? He must be because they, yeah, I can see that now. which was touring the country at the time this movie was being made because Jason Schwartzman is also a musician and I think he might have played in Rooney or I don't know, something like that. Dame Julie Andrews loves fresh flowers

Starting point is 00:20:48 and convinced director Gary Marshall to use only real flowers in the arrangements inside Rinaldi Castle during the filming she was constantly adjusting the arrangements, removing dying blossoms, etc. The centerpieces of the kitchen table in the scene where Nicholas Devereaux, Chris Pine tops his chocolate moose, got switched from

Starting point is 00:21:04 a large piece as seen in the background to a cluster of small flowers seen in the final cut. The original arrangement got in the way of filming. And this is the theatrical movie debut of Chris Pine. Wow. I keep thinking has he played another Prince character that wasn't Wish

Starting point is 00:21:20 like Prince type character? I can see him totally in like and I know it's not enchanted obviously because it's James Marsden but I can like imagine him in like a similar type of outfit and I just cannot place what it was supposed to be and I don't think I'm thinking of Dungeons and Dragons. I've never seen

Starting point is 00:21:37 Into the woods Cinderella's Prince That's what it says right there Yeah Which I mean I haven't seen that either So I don't know Maybe I just saw the trailer And it was that

Starting point is 00:21:45 But either way Good for old Capi Tan Kirk He has one of the best Hollywood chrises And brother and sister Spencer Spencer Brezlin and Abigail Brezlin I have roles in the movie Spencer Brezlin is Prince Jacques Abigail Brezlin is the orphan girl

Starting point is 00:21:59 From the Carolina from the parade That's fun And reportedly when Raven Simone was told she would sing a song with Dame Julie Andrews for this movie. She was so moved. She started crying. Julie Andrew's granddaughter appears as dancing Princess Hannah. There's a lot

Starting point is 00:22:14 of that too. Let's see. Let's get that a little bit of spoiler and then we're wrapped up. All right. What do we got? The jewelry used by Princess Mia Thermopolis and Queen Clarice Renaldi was all real. A guard was

Starting point is 00:22:32 on set the whole time. The most expensive. of pieces and necklace, Queen Clarice is wearing at the wedding. In the end of the film, Mia becomes the queen of Genovia though in the novel series. Oh, this is a novel series. I had no idea. The monarch of Genovia uses the title Prince or Princess similar to real life monarchs

Starting point is 00:22:48 in principalities like Monaco, Lichtenstein, and Andorra. This also followed the book series to continue being called the Princess Diaries to be called Princess Diaries after Mia assumes the throne. Just before Princess Mia's bachelor's slumber party Lily refers to me as ladies, maids as Lenny and Squiggy. Lenny and Squiggy

Starting point is 00:23:06 for two characters in the popular comedy series, Laverne and Shirley, starring Director Gary Marshall's sister, Penny Marshall. There you go, okay. And Lindsay Lohan sings, I decide, and the end credits, Lindsay Lohen, work with Chris in just my luck, 2006 years after

Starting point is 00:23:22 the Princess Diaries. Wow's was released, the Princess Diaries, too. Okay, dude. All right, not bad. Well, wow, I feel good, I feel Royal. I do feel regal. I do feel reiged. All right. You have any final thoughts before you get out of here?

Starting point is 00:23:38 No. Well, I guess, you know, I don't imagine this got as high of a tomato meter score is the first one and they lowballed the first one. So, you know. They did. Well, you guys, that'll be us for us today. Thank you so much for watching. Stay Royal. That's right. See you in the next one. Until part three.

Starting point is 00:23:54 Mua.

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