The Reel Rejects - The Sequels We NEVER Got But Should Have! (Marvel, DC, Star Wars, & Horror)

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

THE GREATEST SEQUELS NEVER MADE! Dive into the ultimate "what if" rabbit hole with Reel Rejects' Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau as they unpack cancelled sequels and unmade movies that could've rewritten Hol...lywood history! From Kylo Ren's scrapped Star Wars solo film and David Fincher's dark Star Wars vision to epic follow-ups like Alita: Battle Angel 2, The Amazing Spider-Man 3 with Andrew Garfield's Sinister Six showdown, and Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4 featuring Vulture and Anne Hathaway's Black Cat— these abandoned movie sequels had killer plots, A-list talent, and game-changing concepts that got shelved for good (or bad) reasons.In this unmade movies deep dive, we break down Darren Aronofsky's gritty Batman: Year One, Neill Blomkamp's District 10, Dredd 2 with Judge Death, Edge of Tomorrow 2: Live Die Repeat and Repeat, the terrifying E.T. 2: Nocturnal Fears, Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash, The Godfather Part IV with Leo DiCaprio as young Sonny, Gremlins 3 in Vegas, Joel Schumacher's Batman Unchained, the wild Jurassic Park 4 dino-human hybrids, Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill Vol. 3, Man of Steel 2 with Brainiac and Supergirl, the original Matrix 4 pitch, The Nice Guys 2, Roger Rabbit 2: Who Discovered Roger Rabbit, Tim Burton's Batman 3, Tim Miller's Deadpool 2, David Fincher's World War Z 2, and Zack Snyder's Justice League sequels complete with Darkseid, Knightmare timelines, and a Bruce Kent epilogue! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:53 Coy, you're looking less like a cat. I feel way more like I got an eyebrow, right? can we say where you've been yeah yeah now we can talk about it now uh i got a hair transplant a week ago on eight days ago this is day eight of healing uh and my face is is not swollen anymore day three and four were the worst and then since it's been on the on the progression but uh it's been a i mean speaking of physicality and confidence it's been a fun journey of being like very personal on the internet and i'm trying it out i mean made a video on my youtube talking about my whole experience yeah trying around with this this thing we're building with being open
Starting point is 00:02:25 do you feel better about it? I feel very excited for like, you know, the next few months are going to be growing and cycling through, but I think in six months and then from then on the rest of my life, I'll be really happy. But like, you know, this process was 10 days of like some pain, some itchiness, but not as bad as I feared. And then it's like waiting for hair to grow. So it's kind of like waiting for paint to dry. Like it's not an exciting period after this. There's like a 10 day window of big change and then it's like, and now we wait.
Starting point is 00:02:53 were you ever made fun of for having a bald spot? No, I saw in my own lighting the thinness in the front that I didn't like. I saw corners, so I had like, I didn't realize my barber was doing me a solid. I had like a bit more of a comb over than I realized. Like we moved it and this side was long and this side was short. So he was helping me out. So like I had my corners that I didn't like, but the back of my head I didn't start noticing to like six months ago on a carpet.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I like leaned forward and I was like, oh, wow. But no one else had a problem but me. I'd get the occasional comment of someone like looking to attack me for something, but it felt as random as anything else. Like, oh, Coy's getting fat. Oh, it wasn't. Like, Coy's bald. You're just looking, you're bored. But like
Starting point is 00:03:33 I was getting bothered by it, so I wanted to do something. All right. So yeah, it feels good to like do a thing that I wanted to change. And that's fitness is next. November I'm going into like, because I September I got diagnosed with vertigo and I couldn't stand for about a week. And then October I got the transplant so I couldn't work out a week before
Starting point is 00:03:49 two weeks after, so that's three weeks. So I'm kind of starting from scratch, like July, I was doing great. And now November, I'm going to really focus on fitness and try to do like a full transformation of like, it'll be so cool to look at six months later, my hair fuller, my gains crazy, like the full transformation into like Adonis until I'm old and dead. Like I'm, this is the last window of like, I'm turning 40 in three years. My body's not going to have this much testosterone for long. I'm not going to be.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So like I've got like 13 years. I want to see how much I can get into like stupid mode and then let my body deteriorate into death. They're having a midlife coices. Yeah, I like this one, though. Like instead of a Ferrari, I'm like, become a Ferrari. If everyone watches the Conan O'Brien podcast, we have a son I'm obsession now. Yes, I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Great reference. She doesn't even know who that is. No, it's a compliment, though. Yeah. He's great. She says she knows who Conan is. So that's a step. He's tall.
Starting point is 00:04:39 He's very tall, very funny. Tall man. Your parallel with that was, like, the most helpful thing I've heard, the Conan O'Brien, like, use in our conversation like two days ago. Saying, like, you know, Conan O'Brien's his own entity outside of his show. Yeah. That's a really beautiful way to look at. especially with the internet's becoming the democratization of entertainment i have i'm trying i'm trying to hear that in a way of how no one knows what you're really referred to the internet being like
Starting point is 00:05:04 i don't i don't think influencers and content creators and like those things are terms of endearment i think of talk show hosts as a positive thing yeah because we're old heads like we're not this generation like gen z wants to be YouTubers i hear youtube and i'm like i'm like fucking youtube and so like but conan became his own entity of entertainment using the platform of YouTube. And I think that's beautiful. Yeah. Like, I think that's the goal not to become, like, a content creator. Because I think of, like, people living in, like, shared mansions and, like, making Lamborghini videos with their rentals. Like, that's so disgusting. I think after he got fired from this night show, he started becoming his own entity. Yeah, exactly. And I think
Starting point is 00:05:38 that's a bar to set. That's a crazy bar to set. He was able to do a show just called Conan. And everyone knew who it was. It took back that barbarian name. So here's what we're doing today. First off, let me explain to you guys why we have a Halloween set. It's not. because Koi and I are in a big festive mood. It is because next week, Koi, I don't think we should do a live stream next week. You're telling me this now, Greg. I feel like what people should get instead is what was recorded yesterday. Tara and Roxy sat down here to do a ranking of the Halloween movies. Cool. And they decked it out. A little bit more decked out. Was it more decked out than what we see right now? It was more decked out than what you see right now. We left
Starting point is 00:06:19 this on the wall. John was with them, was with them. yesterday. And you guys have been engaging so much with their Halloween videos. And we were like, yeah, let's have them do a pre-tape and go enjoy that. And I would, maybe I'll get my Halloween. That'd be fine. Do you, a Halloween guy? A huge Halloween guy. It's my favorite holiday next to my birthday. Narcissism and dressing as others. On the counter says, Labor Day. And every calendar has coys. It's crazy. It's a national holiday. If I was president, I would be, I'd make Trump look like an egoless man. Taking a national holiday, schools are off.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Well, what we're going to talk about today, in honor of the Kylo-Ren movie being canceled, that's acting like there was something supposed to happen, and we all knew about it. It's a crazy storm that's been happening on X. I'm trying. I still find myself saying X. Whenever I say X, my brain goes, why am I calling it X? Is that what I should just call it now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Who calls it X? And I feel like when people call it X, sounds disingenuous. So I don't know what I should call it anymore. Does it feel weird to call it X? It feels really weird to call it X. I would call it Twitter. Should I conform to it? Who are you conforming to?
Starting point is 00:07:28 I feel like there's two camps. The Republican crowd. I mean, hey, we want a different demographic. Only Republicans call it X. I don't know anyone in life that calls an X, but I also don't know. When you just said it, I had to be like, I don't know any Republican or liberal who calls it X. I like, it's Twitter.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah. But I know I have to type X to get there. Yeah. Anyway, on X. On X, there was this, the story that was popping off all over the past week is how Adam Driver was apparently developing a movie with Steven Soderberg where it was the whole script they did to continue the Ben Solo story. And apparently Adam Driver said it was one of the best scripts he's ever read and that they were going to do it. but then they ended up not doing it. And then what also came out is that David Fincher was working on a secret sequel to one of the characters in the new trilogy.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And then it spurred this topic that we're doing today, which is the movie sequels that we never got. But perhaps we should have gotten them. And we got quite a few to get through. So I'm curious to see what you guys say in the chat. I would like to know just right now. like, put it in the chat, what are some of the movies that spring to mind? And, yeah, if we get to like the stream lads and super chats, I wonder where that's going to morph into. Thank you guys for last week.
Starting point is 00:08:56 John and I were here for almost four hours because we do not end a stream without going through every stream lab and super chat. We always have a goal to end on time. Today is 2.15 p.m. Let's see if we can hit that mark. It all depends on you guys today. So thank you guys so much for contributing. It helps. And if you can't, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Just stick around. leave a like on this video because one of the bigger parts that we want to grow this into is of course with the with the playbacks more than just when we are currently live we like when we're live and i like that we've been doing different types of topics like this as opposed to just typical movie news because it feels more us yeah and i feel like we're even though it might not get as much immediate view count wise i'm recognizing all of us are the amount of people who keep showing up every single week yeah that does not go on notice and i'm happier building It really feels like we're building like a community within the community right now.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And it feels really cool to be doing something different. So thank you guys who have been here every single week. Or if you're watching this on the playback, leave a comment, leave a like. That'd be amazing. Now, before we go into our big list is we got a lot of different ones to go through. Marvel, DC, Star Wars, things that are not any of the big IPs. What are your thoughts on this canceled Kylo Ren movie, Coy? I'm as devastated by it as the I know nothing else about it except for Fincher.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Star Wars movie because I'm a big Soderberg guy. I like his smaller films. I like his giant like obviously the Oceans trilogy I think is one of the great trilogies. He's a master of ensemble and I can't imagine what he could have done with Star Wars. I love his visual aesthetic. I think he does
Starting point is 00:10:32 a lot with no budget which Star Wars kind of needs. I think when Star Wars is thriving it's got a specific vision. It's really good at low budget and it's able to use an ensemble. That's Soderberg. The thing that Soderberg is is what Star Wars is missing. So the idea that it was developed with the actor, the idea that it was a character that we loved
Starting point is 00:10:48 from the new trilogy, all of that sounds amazing. And then on top of that, we got the Fincher news. So I, Fincher's my favorite director, comfortably, confidently. What we could have gotten with a character study of anarchy, of anti-war commentary on, I mean, like, he's known for his like serial killer stuff a lot of the time. What would a Fincher Star Wars even look like? The fact that we know so little just has my brain like, what is that version of? Because there's always a tone even in stuff like mank there's some dna of fincher that shines through in a different way than is through line of like seven and mine hunter and all those things so i just it's such a multiversal what if i would love to know at finchers anything would have been in the world of star
Starting point is 00:11:30 wars because i can't even get to like step b i'm trapped at a like what what how what so uh sodeberg sounds good because i can see it fincher sounds amazing because i have no idea what it would have been Well, with the Ben Solo one, here are some details that I wrote down. It would have been a character-driven sequel with exploring the redemption and return of Ben Solo after his supposed death in the rise of Skywalker. It would have examined unresolved spiritual and metaphysical elements of the force, including how a redeemed force user deals with the aftermath of genocide, war, and sacrifice. Tone was said to be intimate, philosophical, and a tour-driven, reflecting Sotomayette's filmmaking style. And the movie would likely have explored whether Ben Solo survived, returned to the force for existed in a liminal state between life and death,
Starting point is 00:12:18 possible inclusion of Ray. That was genuinely. And apparently Disney executives shut it down because they could not see how Ben Solo could still be alive. In Star Wars, in the world of Star Wars, they could not see how Ben Solow himself. Somehow Palpatine returned was enough. Yeah. But those words was enough for them. Couldn't see how this was possible.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Wow. And it's so weird because in. in a day and age where franchises are known for when the hell do characters ever really die yeah they couldn't see this and i do feel like they miss out on something because i feel like out of any of the new characters that popped up in the trilogy almost unanimously adam driver as an addition was one of the most beloved i feel like when in the new era it was grogu or it's called what people really call him Baby Yoda, Baby Yoda, the Mandalorian, and Adam Driver. Yeah. As Kylo Ren, those were the three right there. So this to me is a big misopportuny to actually do something
Starting point is 00:13:19 very different. Also, something like the plot addresses their problem. What you just described is about, like, how would he return? Does he? Like, it's a conversation. It's a, it's a narrative about that exact premise. Yeah. And it's a, it's a bummer because this doesn't seem like it was, it seems like they were just trying to distance themselves from the sequel trilogy at this point because the sequel trilogy was not well received and then Rise of Skywalker was so not well received that I think that's why it was ultimately shut down but there's a campaign going for right now
Starting point is 00:13:50 it's become it seems like it's starting to become some Snyder cut type of deal where they fly a plane or something like that I mean Mandelord and Grogo is the only Star Wars thing that is based off any of that so if there could be anything to grow that universe I think it's smart and it could be reasonably budgeted And Adam Driver is a much bigger name now.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah. He's much more respected. Yeah. Star Wars kind of needs something that could have in a tour-driven direction. Right. The fans are being outspoken saying they actually want this. We're talking about it. How often do we talk about Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:14:23 How often are we excited? And Adam Driver himself is putting it out there that he really wants to dumb. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I feel like this is way more likely than whatever Fincher has up his sleeve. I believe Fincher won a final cut. There's no chance of hell if it's going to come out. There's no way Fincher would get a final cut.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I don't, I don't, that's almost like Tarantino wanting to do a Star Trek movie. I'm like, that's not going to happen. What's crazy to me is that Fincher getting final cut is as impossible as it is because the IP, but what Fincher's doing now, like a straight to Netflix movie is so crazy to me. Yeah. Like where Fincher went from making, you know, these giant profit-driven movies, like his movies are made, you know, Fight Club didn't make a lot of money, but his smaller budget films still make money because he's got a built-in audience.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I can't imagine what his Star Wars would look like. I think that built in. audience would go with it, but there's no reality where Disney wouldn't own so much of it. I feel like he'd be shackled like he was the Alien 3. Like Alien 3 wasn't a Fincher movie. It was a studio movie. Yeah. What would it even look like to have Fincher working for Disney?
Starting point is 00:15:20 I can't even picture it. But instead, the cost is a straight to Netflix movie. I hate that the cost of creative freedom is Netflix gets it. Like, that's such a shame. The idea that we're getting a once upon a time in Hollywood sequel, written by one of the great writers, directed by one of the great directors, and it'll get, like, like a limited release. Like, that's insane to me.
Starting point is 00:15:39 What cost art? What if Disney actually started doing that, though, with some of these? Let's say they actually greenlit this Kylo Ren movie. What if they decided that it's going to be a Disney Plus movie, but it will get a limited theatrical window for two to three weeks? I mean, I'd show up. It wouldn't make any money, but I'd be there. You don't think you would make money?
Starting point is 00:15:57 I feel like that's how you get your money from the diehards in the theaters. How many, I mean, what's Disney costs now? Disney Plus description? I don't know. I'm scared to look. Yeah, that's fair. I can use rocketmoney.com. Check your ass.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Like 10 bucks, 12 bucks? I don't know, 15 bucks, 20 bucks a month? That much. Divided by like a family of five. There's no way that $4 is going to add up times even like a million people watch. It's just not profitable. Well, I think Mandelaar and Grogoe might be the ultimate test. It does not bode well.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Is that supposed to be a fully theatrical window? Right. But that first trailer did not make a strong impression with almost anyone. But look at F1. That's an. Apple made movie that they're holding off for 11 or what eight months. I'm going to Apple Plus. And it's one of the number one movies in box office worldwide. Yeah. Like theatrical is still the way to make money, but make your movie good. Yes. And we are also in a day and age two when it comes
Starting point is 00:16:55 to intellectual properties where they do look a little bit more past theatrical release when it comes to profit. Sure. And that's something I think we constantly forget to actually discuss. Number two on Nielsen ratings this week. Yeah. I think it's been out forever. That's kind of like with almost every property, though, is they look at, you know, the merch of digital sales, the V. I'm saying streaming first is a problem. Yeah, of course it is. So, like, if you're going to do a Soderberg film, I think three-month theatrical and then do your back end on, on your apps. But like, we still need movies and theaters if you're going to make money. Streaming is cancer. I feel like Disney would be fools not to try this again, because
Starting point is 00:17:30 we've had a couple of announcements of Star Wars movies. We have the Ray movie that's supposedly supposed to happen, the James Mangold movie that's supposed to happen. We have the Sean Levy, Ryan Gosling movie coming out. It's been a long time since I've seen the fan base get this exciting. Yeah, I agree. Whoa. They seem, there's this kind of something feels unanimous about the enthusiasm for actually wanting this out of something of the new era. This is something they should really reconsider. But what do you guys think? How do you feel about the pacing today? Uh, I think, uh, we're trying to get to our main story, but the main story is another story. Yeah, I mean, kind of in a funky headspace for like two straight days.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I, uh, I, I think I'm definitely navigating like the, the recalibration of like, I'm really excited for this show, but I also know, like, we've got a ton of other filming to do. So it weighing on me that, like, conserve some energy, but also this. I feel like every hour for the past two days, I'm being pulled in a different direction to take some serious consideration of a decision to do. Yes, fair. yeah yeah i get that and it was like happening like before we went live too like 10 minutes before i had to switch over to that other office for a second and then i got back here i'm like oh yeah let's focus on this right so yeah same page yeah a little bit head funky and then i felt like we have to just acknowledge that i feel like i'm feeling this so you might be feeling it a little bit too
Starting point is 00:18:50 so if we just acknowledge it then we can finally move the fuck past it now we can just enjoy it instead of trying to like bury it and let it just slowly see what take over so here we are Coy. Yes. Why don't we get to the main stories that we actually want to do, the real topic that we want to get to. Because this was fun as fluctuate research.
Starting point is 00:19:08 This was a really fun. I got very excited to actually do this. Honestly, like, I think it's also part of it. I'm like, get to the thing. I'm excited for video chapters
Starting point is 00:19:15 because people could skip house all the Kyle Wren shit. Yeah. Which I feel like was a reasonably all right discussion, but here's where I think the fun really cooks. I'll let you go first, man. So I wrote down a bunch of movies. You wrote down a bunch of movies.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And we'll see where we are within 45 minutes. Yes. Because it's going to be a journey. So let's get through the main ones we want to go through. Okay. Let's see what we have left. Because we both have like 25. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I think we're both over. I definitely have 25. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to do my second one first. I'm sorry, John. I know you pulled graphics. But if you can go to my second one, I want to talk about Batman versus Superman.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's right. The movie. What are you talking about? That didn't get made before. BBS. Batman versus Superman starring Jude Law as Superman and Colin. Farrell as Batman. The hell is this?
Starting point is 00:20:04 We had a Wolfgang Peterson directed Batman versus Superman way back in the day before BVS was even an idea. And they were going to do like a giant historical epic. The guy that made Doss Boot, the guy that made Troy, the guy that made never ending story, like Wolfgang Peterson doing a Colin Farrell Batman, doing a Jude Law with most of his hair, Superman. This would have been, I think, a very different era of superhero content in general because this. would have been so big it would have either ushered in an early dc in a very different way it might have changed what marvel became this is such a crazy idea because i can't imagine society and pop culture today being the same if this had existed this might be the biggest like it could seem alongside george miller's justice league oh my god everything's different but i feel like people
Starting point is 00:20:51 know about george millers justice league no one realizes how close this was to be they were cast so this wasn't a secret no it was colin ferrell was batman the main topic at hand i didn't know the word sequel was so integral to this. Oh, it is when we're starting this off. Well, I messed up the top. Oh, great. It's a sequel to my dreams. It's a sequel to my dreams.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Dude, Batman called Farrell. Let's pause for a second. If they did this first, though, without any prior movie, that would have been freaking weird. Unlike doing it as the first new Batman? I think it makes more sense to do a Batman v. Superman following Man and Steel that it does to just spring us into a Batman versus Superman. I think it would be easier to digest
Starting point is 00:21:37 a launch in knowing neither of them than half no one of them. Really? Yeah, because then it's more like Guardians or more like a team movie. You're unequal footing versus like why is our Superman sequel a Batman movie? Don't you think it would have been lodged very
Starting point is 00:21:54 similar complaints though? Oh, 100%. I don't even say it would have been good. I think it would have been different. I think it would have been epic. So you would have been fascinated by it. I think DC is much more like gods and deities than Marvel. And I think Zach Snyder gets that. And I love the Snyder cut. And I'm really excited to like look at that world with a little distance.
Starting point is 00:22:12 That said, there is a certain amount of the 2006, 2008 of it all that Snyder had to contend with that Wolfgang Peterson wouldn't have had to. I think Snyder had a really hard thing where it was like in a greedy post-Nolan world gods. Like what the hell? Whereas Wolfgang Peterson would have made like Troy with God. gods. And the deity nature and the and the archetypal characters that is DC, I cannot imagine. And you getting to launch that with characters and equal footing is way easier than in a post Batman begins world. Here's a dark and gritty Superman. And then a new Batman. Snyder never had a chance to establish his own complete thing. Whereas Wolf King Peterson, what would that have been? It's fair. So like I would argue it could have been a more confident film and a more comfortable film launching them both together. that would have been an interesting movie and Judelaw Colin Farrell is crazy
Starting point is 00:23:06 have they not done something together no and also the journey that Colin Farrell's been on to get to Penguin involved being cast as Batman at some point you think Jude Law would have been a good Superman I think you would have to bulk up a lot and I think it would have played a lot more
Starting point is 00:23:20 like Brandon Rouths I think it would have been a very like ethereal like soft spoken pondersome huh and then I can totally see Colin Farrell's Bruce Wayne yeah yeah like that one's easy that's plug and play and also he's got that like darkness to him. And that was in his bad boy era. It's weird with Superman, how Superman feels like that's a much easier. Like when you find a Superman, you're like, okay, yeah, that guy fits Superman.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, that's perfect. But there's not as many who can do it. I feel. Yeah. Yet, Batman's a more complex character, and I feel like more people can do Batman. I think there's more ways to play Batman than to play Superman. That's why, yeah. And I think that's been the problem with Superman. Yeah. But like Wolfgang Peterson passed three years ago, I was a fan of his work. it would have been cool to see him get his like time in that weird sandbox yeah so that's that's my big one well then i will keep on the dc mark i'm not going to go in any real order then of these let's uh but i'll go with like the 10 that i really would like to talk about which would be the man of steel part two then okay because a that's a sequel that's the topic we have done the
Starting point is 00:24:23 topic i didn't realize it was man of steel too so i didn't actually know much about what the plan plot was for this. So I copy it and pasted it down. Brainiac was going to be in it. And one of the main plot ones that was going around was that Brainiac would be targeting Earth as a specimen world, potentially shrinking the city and exposing Clark's crisis of identity. And Lex was going to be in there to manipulate fear and geopolitics. Supergirls introduction would have been in there to expand the Kettonian legacy and complicates like public sentiment and the Intendal Ketonal Correction that everyone was talking about, you know, a clear articulation of Superman's hopeful ethos before the cosmic escalation. Did you actually want this man to see, too?
Starting point is 00:25:11 Christopher Macquarie, I think, was attached. Christopher McCquiry, Matthew Baum, were the two top contenders. I love the idea of Henry Cavill getting his time to be the character beyond the Black Adam post-credit scene. Sure. Like, I would have loved to have seen a full movie where that arc got to play. I do think we rushed into BVS. definitely rushed into Justice League. I definitely think Henry Cavill did not get his due.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And what I just said about Zach Snyder, I think kind of applies to this, too. I think I would have preferred something in between Man of Steel and BVS or even Man of Steel and not BVS before Justice League so that something like this could build Superman out. Yeah. Because it really is like Man of Steel, he fights Batman, he dies. That's a weird arc. And I would have loved to see him grow before he dies. well this this feels like an unresolved it feels like we don't get closure though right and i and i feel like
Starting point is 00:26:08 there'll always be a sentiment that's a big what could have been a lot of these are a what could have been potentiality and specifically with henry cabal due to the setup due to the public announcements of him coming back due to him being our brand new superman it seems worse than brandon ralph only going to be a one-off yeah because it was clearly building up to something henry Cavill was very vocal. This sounds like this would have been more of the traditional sense. Like I've said many times, James Gunn Superman is my favorite Superman adaptation. There is that part of my brain that does gnaw, though, of going, I will always feel bad for
Starting point is 00:26:45 Henry Cavill. And I always, I would want, I wanted this a little bit more than I would say I wanted the completion of Justice League 2 and 3. I could see that. And I feel like that with Andrew Garfield. and I feel like I got a little bit of that with No Way Home, but I'd love to see like a Kingdom Come years later with Henry Cavill getting to be Superman. And I've said many times here that Zach Snyder would make an amazing Kingdom Come movie.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And that's how I think we get Henry Cavill to have his due. Yeah. Like that'd be amazing. Would you be able to accept a Kingdom Come Elseworld's movie down the road as opposed to letting David Corn Sweat arc over the years, almost like a Hugh Jackman Wolverine into, you know. I think in Elseworld, especially with how D.C. is built with Earth 2s and all the setup, it would be a lot easier to do it there than what Wolverine's gone through.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like Wolverines died and come back and had Logans, whereas, like, you could very easily do a Kingdom Cup movie and have way more flexibility to adapt it more directly than try to, like, tie your continuity to get there. And it's going to be like 20 years until it makes sense for Cornswet's young. He's in his 20s or early 30s. Well, the Cavill can do it in like 15 years. Well, the kingdom come comic, even though this is not the Man of Steel 2 conversation, the kingdom come comic, when I went into that, I didn't actually, it's not the way I felt with Avenger Secret Wars, where I had to slow down and go, wait a minute, I feel like, I thought I could just hop into Secret Wars and it could be no problem. And apparently some people have, and I don't know, you guys are fucking amazing human beings because I was not able to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:23 it was very, very confusing for me. Kingdom come, on the other hand, I did not get that feeling. It's very approachable. Yeah, and it takes place where Superman is much older. He's retired. We got a new era of meta-humans, and they're kind of doing things in a way that Superman does not really agree with. You got a very aged old Bruce Wayne, Batman, and the art style is absolutely beautiful. But the story is something that I do feel speaks more to Zach Snyder's sensibility. so I would meet you on that is one where you could do in else worlds because I don't I genuinely feel like you don't need to read other comics and actually to understand this rather epic crossover that feels like another earth it doesn't it doesn't arguably have to tie into anything yeah and that that is why I think it would be better to almost bring back cavil than have David corn sweat like leading
Starting point is 00:29:15 that way whatever like I don't want it to be a trajectory because now they have all the freedom I think the benefit of DC right now is the openness I wouldn't want that to be an end goal. Whereas if you had Cavill come back in 15 years, that would be amazingly boop. Yeah, yeah. Plus, we'd go to see Ben Affleck back. And that'd be the right age. All right. So what else are you got on this list? Oh, next up, I'm going to stick with Justice League then and do the Justice League mortal that I talked about a second ago. I feel like that's something you and I both talked about. I feel like we don't have a lot of crossover in our 10 and that's what's great about having like 25. But George Miller's Justice League mortal is something that I've
Starting point is 00:29:45 thought about. I'd say like every few months for years. Okay. I think the casting was fascinating. I think George Miller as a director is one of those people that people don't realize what he's accomplished like he made the tiniest little low budget Australian crazy on the side of the road movie into a franchise that arguably
Starting point is 00:30:07 has the best action installment of all time I think with Mad Max Jury Road I think Mad Max Fury Road is one of the greatest action movies of all time and I prefer Furiosov too I love Mad Max Fury Road but even I feel like he even got better that's not a popular opinion
Starting point is 00:30:20 I love Furio I don't think it is as good as Fury Road personally, but the fact that he made both of those in his like 70s and 80s, what this man could have done with something like Justice League, you look at our conversation with Zach Snyder's gods and deities and all those things, and then you zoom out to like World Building and Furiosa and Fury Road and all of that. Well, you can do with IP in that world. I think, you know, having, what's his name, Adrian Brody in there,
Starting point is 00:30:47 having Army Hammer. The casting, all of it was like so out of left field. Let me break down some of its information then because that's what I was typing in as I was here is here's the cast that they had in mind. That actually, this was the confirmed cast. Yeah, they were cast. This was just the cast they had in minor discussion.
Starting point is 00:31:05 They were actually going to make this movie. It is wild how far along they got. DJ Katrina, who I only know from the From Dustal Dawn show. I don't know him except his look. I can picture him. He was who George Clooney played in the movie. That's who we played in the show. And Batman was going to be Army Hammer.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That would have aged well. Wonder Woman is going to be in it. Megan Gale. I don't even know what that is. Yeah. She's beautiful. I don't know her though. The Flash was going to be Wally West version, Adam Brody.
Starting point is 00:31:36 This one's crazy. I'm actually learning this in real time. Green Lantern was going to be John Stewart and is played by Common. Who was an underrated actor, I would say. He really is. Martian Manhunter being there. Hugh Keyes Burns. Who is Morton Joe?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Ah, gotcha. and Aquaman was going to be played by Santiago Cabrera and then other characters were going to be Talial Agoal, Teresa Palmer, Maxwell Lord, Jay Barrichel, Iris Allen, Zoe Kazan and the WonderTones are going to be in there didn't have confirmed casting Wally West's kid was going to be in there
Starting point is 00:32:09 and yeah, I don't, do you know what the plot of this movie is? Nope, I know that Jay Barakal has done occasional interviews and mentioned it but even everything is very under wraps there is a shot of wardrobe test there's a picture of them in costume and that's like the closest we've gotten any sort of look and that was I actually, we debuted that image on Collider Heroes
Starting point is 00:32:29 back when I started my career way back in the day so like this has been something I've thought about all the time and I love the director so this is something I wish we could see yeah let me look at what the plot of this movie is this sounds so interesting to me I could stay forever on this one movie with you. It's fascinating
Starting point is 00:32:44 it's fascinating because it wasn't just a speculation it was being made this was happening okay so I got a small little breakdown here small little breakdown here Justice League Mortal begins
Starting point is 00:32:58 with the superhero team already formed including Superman Batman Wonder Woman the Flash Green Lantern Aquaman and Martian Manhunter privately Batman has created a satellite system called
Starting point is 00:33:08 Brother I that sounds like a very generic satellite system that watches over everything and a set of contingency plans to neutralize each member of the league Should any of them turn rogue? Damn, Batman, always.
Starting point is 00:33:22 These files are stolen by Maxwell Lord and Talia Al-Gul who used them to launch a coordinated assault against the league. Each hero is attacked using Batman's own design weaknesses. Oh, wow. I'm talking about a backfire. Superman is mind-controlled into attacking his teammates. Aquaman is instilled with fear of water. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Martian Man enters set ablaze. Flash is forced into a fatal speed loop Oh god Yeah that's every time I hear But the flash is stuck on some like treadmill Or and some forever loop And Green Lantern is psychologically broken That's weak
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yellow Super Superman is like mic controlled And attack a team mates Aquaman's afraid of water And everyone has like specific fears And Greenlander is just psychologically broken His wheelpower is broken Okay, he's crying in the corner
Starting point is 00:34:10 And Wonder Moment becomes trapped In an endless hallucination of combat So Maxwell Lurdy Activates the Brother Eye Sattel satellite turning civilians into omac drones. I don't know what that is. A program to eradicate all meta humans. Wonder Woman. Okay,
Starting point is 00:34:25 we could just stop there. There's like a whole big plot breakdown. That's amazing. But this sounds like a wild movie. Dude, right? And George Miller. That sounds insane. I've never heard that breakdown. That's fantastic. And George Miller. Like, this sounds so good. I love how it's a plan that backfire because Batman is constantly creating contingency plans.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So Army Hammer's the villain. Yeah. But Batman's constantly like, you know, he's often the leader of the Justice League. And he's, this is a problem there. He doesn't trust him and they don't trust him because of it. And I love that they call it Justice League mortal because it highlights everyone's weaknesses, making them mortal.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And he's the mortal of them. Yeah. That is the mortal. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know any of this until right now. I think that was pretty cool. I want it so bad.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It'll never happen. That would have been a cool movie. What a special thing. As soon as we started talking about this, I was like immediately justice league mortal. But then it runs, weirdly, because of how the plot is, I could see. Because, you know, while all things consider, Zach Sider's justice, League works pretty well with only having two movies prior to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And with the way they're setting up with exploring their weaknesses, it sounds like it would have benefited, of course, from having prior movies. Yeah. This is pretty sweet plot. Pretty cool, man. It's pretty cool. Because you, I mean, in what, five sentences, you understand it. Like, in five sentences, you're like, Batman messed up, and here's the Justice
Starting point is 00:35:38 League. Because everyone knows, it's easy to communicate what a character's strengths are, but if you, if you kick it off with their weaknesses as part of the big act, too. and you make their weaknesses the movie. Yeah. Fascinate. They're gods. You make them mortal.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah. That's a pretty cool idea. That would have been a good movie. I wish. Damn, that's a bummer. What's your next one? Yeah, this video sucks. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:35:59 This is just going to make me sad. Yeah, we're just going to rue the day. All of these didn't happen. I'm going to go with one that's near and dear to my heart then. And I'm so surprised that this never happened. And I found a fan-made poster of this. I send it to John to use. Kill Bill Volume 3.
Starting point is 00:36:15 this is a pretty obvious one all right if you guys have seen kill bill one and two i don't need the notes here if you said kill bill one and two in the beginning of the movie uh umma thurman kills vivica a fox and the daughter is there and there's a couple plus it sets up a clear sequel there of he she tells her when you're older come find me essentially how cool it had been to do some type of sequel way down the road, aged Uma Thurman. Who did Boyhood? Who was that guy? Richard Linklater? Yeah, would have been like a Quentin Tarantino's
Starting point is 00:36:51 Richard Linklater sequel. Umah Thurman. Yeah. Oh, man, that's awkward. Yeah, and they, and someone was saying, oh, you could have gotten Maya Hawk to play at the older daughter. And someone, who looks so much like her mom?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Someone did a poster that had, um, Zendea as the daughter of Vivekeh a fox grown up. That's fun. I saw the image. I was like, shit, that would have really worked. and the sad part is I feel like there's still an opportunity for Tarantino to do this.
Starting point is 00:37:19 He just only wants to make 10 movies. That's why I think this didn't happen was Tarantino's 10 movie thing. But he can't. My feeling is Kill Bill 1 and 2 in his mind and the way I feel like
Starting point is 00:37:31 he's really trying to communicate to his audience, especially with having the re-release coming out in December. He wants it to be communicating if there's not two movies. That's a one film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So he's made nine movies, right? Because if you get one and two, he's made 10 movies. But he's made nine movies. movies that yeah this is this is one movie two bold it in 20 years later but if he made kill bill no if you make kill bill three it would be the first sequel he ever made yeah and i feel like it would be so cool for tarentino to go out on a note of his one and only sequel and to show how to do a sequel i know that's why he didn't want to do once upon a time the sequel uh but i i do think it'd be
Starting point is 00:38:10 great because that's such an not early in his career but midpoint in his career to bookend it that'd be that'd be special yeah i mean i see it that's the one i really want all right yeah what else you got i got a third movie i'll go with my third movie out of two trilogies though okay before men and black three oh yeah yeah when you when you send me a notice i was like i can't believe i forgot about this men in black and twenty one jump street almost came together with men and black 23 yeah which would have combined 21 jump street with the world of men and black lord and miller wanted to do it channing tatum and jona hill wanted to do it uh i think it would have much better sequel than Men in Black 3.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I have no problem with Men in Back 3, but I don't think of it. Like, it's not like near and dear. And I love Josh Rowland, but like I don't think of that movie. What we could have had with a crossover like this between two action comedy series that are both really metamodernistic, both irreverent, both in weird tones, kind of perfect for each other. And I would have loved those two duos. Like Jay and Kay and Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill somehow teaming up against aliens, Lord and Miller being involved means the writing must have been good. and they would have had a plausible reason to make all this work.
Starting point is 00:39:15 It would have revived both franchises in a fun way. I think it could have made a ton of very interesting money and I think it would have set the kind of precedent of like old TGI Friday crossover TV shows
Starting point is 00:39:28 could have become movies. Yeah. Like I loved when their Boy Me's World cast would like meet other cast and I'd be like, whoa, a crossover. I would have loved if action comedy started doing that. And this would have been that kickoff, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Channing Tatum said recently that he doesn't feel like it would happen because they're too old. It, because the producer. There's a producer, Neil H. Moritz. I think he called out by name. And he said that the front end cost because of certain producers,
Starting point is 00:39:52 and he called one out, are too heavy on the front end. So the budget's inflated because of producers, not even the actors. The producers are asking for too much money. Oh, I heard it. I didn't even hear the producer part.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I heard it was the, I heard tantam talking about the age thing. Okay. I'm pretty sure I heard it talk about it. I don't know if I'm making that up now. I know we talked about the producer because I was like, damn, he's calling out names. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Someone fact-checked me on that. Channing Tatum talking. Did Chan-Tam talk about age at all with this or something? Well, I think that's an ageless role. That's the point. I think his role is an ageless role. And with the way, someone just brought up to me like 20 minutes before we went live about I Am Legend 2.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. Yeah. They're like, oh, but I feel like that movie's going to talk about these deep things. I'm like, no, it's not. It's just another Will Smith movie of him going, please like me. You know, that's what a lot of his career is now. Please like me again for the things I used to be. before i was known for slapping a guy here's what you loved me for remember why you love me
Starting point is 00:40:47 yeah please it's a real desperate here's michael b jordan and and i think 21 jumps i might be crossover could lean into the fact of how much older all of them are and both will smith will smith still has a pretty strong fan base it's like yes he has a negative slant used against him and but he's still pretty famous and he's still still got a lot of followers. Jonah Hill, on the other hand, he's kind of vanished for a lot of reasons. I think would you be willing, as an audience member, do you care enough about that private stuff to be like, I don't know if you should do this.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I honestly don't even remember the details of that private stuff. I think he's the only member of the get him to the Greek cast that could come back. Yeah. Everyone else did way worse stuff. Oh, yeah, that's a lot of bad people. Get him to the Greeks kind of like the worst, like that poster is like cursed. Yeah. And a movie about doing drugs and making bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Boy, did that cast do some drugs and make bad decisions. P. Diddy was funny in that movie. You know, he was. I want to. He did say that. Chantin did say it. The only thing was a factor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And what was the producer quote if you have that as well? So sorry. You were laser-focused. But I know he called that a producer. But the, I think. And P. Did he talked about cuckoo-oo chicken. That was it. That was a problem.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But Jonah Hill, if I remember correctly, it was like he was verbally abusive and, you know, some of the other things that, like, that's different than other things people have done in that cast. So I haven't heard anything about Jonah Hill being like reprehensible. So he's just reprehensible to someone he dated. That's none of our business. I'm not condoning it. Give me my 21 Jump Street crossover. I'm not condoning it, but I don't know anything. I don't personally know anything bad enough that I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:42:41 be excited and i think that people need to be able to grow i think as long as i don't look it up then hey plausible deniability i didn't i wasn't in the room and i do know that i think he's funny i don't know what he's done i i know he yelled at a i can't remember or something i was watching baby driver and i i said out loud like what happened to this guy and then i and then minutes said i was Oh, wait, was he canceled? Why was he canceled? He was, like, DMing teenagers. We're at that point now with people where I go, why, why were they canceled again?
Starting point is 00:43:16 I remember being so bad when it first popped off, but now I can't recall for the life of me. Ansel Elwood? Yeah, I don't remember. He was deeming teenagers. Was he? Yeah. One of the ones I thought it was like he would be really controlling the best of the girl who was being. No, that was Jonah Hill.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, yeah. Jonah Hill was controlling. No, Ansel Elker was only talking to young girls. so we should do baby driver too is what I'm trying to say because he likes to talk to babies oh you're right there there is some alleged assault in there Jonah or Ansel Elgort okay but Jonah Hill was just the controlling it is alleged as far as I know yet
Starting point is 00:43:55 okay who's alleged why you hang allegedly Ansel Elgort is involved in some assaults Oh gosh so we can't do Baby Driver 2 more babies baby harder look who's baby driver now as opposed to Kevin Spacey who's working at the time
Starting point is 00:44:14 babies that's another I think Jonah Hill was just like why you gotta be out in a bikini with other hot you know muscle guys which to me is like you can apologize and like that's a move forward from
Starting point is 00:44:28 take some anger management that's not like the other members that get him to the Greek Alex's husband talks our way to him all the time. Isn't Peter always just like stop dressing like that, you whore? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You don't know who Nirvana is. Yeah, see? Like, you don't know Nirvana songs. Yeah. You said, your sleeves are too short. And we were like, man, we got to deal with this guy. And I agree.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah. You're dressing inappropriately today. This is an HR right. We're going to get. Alex is our HR. We're going to get you. Write yourself on. Alex.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'm not an example. Take a look in the mirror. Why do you hire her to be our HR? We're also wondering if you two coordinated out of this. We didn't do it looks great. The white trim and the white text looks fantastic. Alex brought us blow. We're going to do it later.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So my next on the list. What if it becomes our entire list? Oh, they can't do this because they were canceled. Shit. That is plausible. Damn, there's so many people on our list. That's why I can't do George Miller's Batman. It's fucking Army Hammer wanted to eat people.
Starting point is 00:45:32 That would have been such great foreshadowing for people. Batman. All right. Here's a fun one. I'm going to do this one just for John. There was an idea to take a bunch of horror movie characters and have them verse each other one day.
Starting point is 00:45:47 We had it once with Freddy versus Jason. But did you know, and I think they made a comic of this, they were actually going to make this a movie. And to this day, I still want this. I'm not even the biggest Freddie or Jason fan. Yeah. But I still want this because I'm a big. big fan of the one that i want them to include okay freddie versus jason versus ash cool you know you even with old man
Starting point is 00:46:17 bruce campbell you know you can make that movie 100% and you don't need to justify a bunch of stupid ensemble characters in order to have these two fight each other ash is your main human who's caught in the middle of this i don't know what the plot what would the plot of this a bit um direct follow up to because I actually like copied and pasted a bunch of plots but there's something I intentionally didn't read because I wanted to discover them on air with you. Yeah, yeah. So have you seen the evil dead movies, the originals? No. You haven't seen the original evil dead movies. Oh my God. Those are so fun. Well, this is going to be nothing to you. Freddie seeks the necronomicon. That's a book that can help bring people back from the debt. Okay. To regain power in the waking
Starting point is 00:46:58 world, Jason becomes his blunt instrument, and Ash Williams, boomstick, which is his shotgun, and chainsaw, he has a hand that he replaced with a chainsaw, is pulled in to stop the nightmare from bleeding fully into reality. This would have been the sickest freaking movie ever. So right now, what they have going on with Evil Dead, how do I, okay, I'm going to try to explain this to you as a person. I've seen the New Evil Dead with Lupucci. La Pucci? Lou Taleboochie? Lou Taylor Poochie from 2013.
Starting point is 00:47:32 That's not the new East Evil Dead. Oh. Oh, I've seen that one. He's really good on that, though. Okay. There's several timelines going on. There's the original Sam Ramey line, the trilogy that starred Bruce Campbell. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Then they remade it with La Poochie. La Poochee. And then they continued the Sam Ramey stories in Ash versus Evil Dead, the stars television show. Okay. that got canceled after three seasons. Okay. And then there's continuing the Evil Dead movies, but they're doing like one-offs. The originals.
Starting point is 00:48:04 No, new ones. So like the one you saw is a one-off. Got it. And then they did another one-off, Evil Dead Rise. Okay. And now they're doing another one, Evil Dead Burn, which they're keeping that plot under wraps. So I'm wondering if they're going to try to be tying it into a big multiversal thing. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:24 That sounds dope. I feel like this is the thing they should do. That's fun. This was 100% revitalized a franchise in a way. And I feel like it would get you interested in watching these movies. Yeah. I mean, anytime you can revive a franchise with an inventive sequel, I think that's great. A lot of people are like, ah, everything's a remake or a sequel.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I'm like, yeah, but sometimes it leads to people discovering the originals. And this sounds like it could do that. Well, Freddie versus Jason's exciting. It's exciting in the way how Alien versus Predators is exciting because they weren't established to be within the same world. And then they wrote it in a way that was fun and exciting. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah. Like the comics were doing that with Alien and Predator for a while. Men and Black 21 Jump Street. Like a novel way to bridge worlds. Exactly. That's another one. And Freddie versus Jason, that was part of the excitement of like, oh, we always dreamed of what if with these two going toe to toe.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. What if they actually did it? And then you throw ash into the mix, this to me is so much more exciting than like throwing Michael Myers in there or something like that. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. This would be a blast of a film. I really hope they somehow consider us. I don't even know who makes all these movies, but that would be.
Starting point is 00:49:24 my dream. Actually, out of all these, this would probably be the one I would be the most gitty about scene. Okay, that's fair. I got one that is on probably my top three, and this is the least IP-driven one. Okay. And it also involves certain undead characters and also crossovers you wouldn't imagine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Gladiator 2, Christ Killer. What? That's right. Nick Cave, that Nick Cave, wrote a sequel to Gladiator starring Russell Crow. Who's Nick Cave? the musical artist John knows who Nick Cave is you've heard red right hand like a million
Starting point is 00:49:59 times in movies you just don't know it is canceled he's not can't no he's much below he got sober and he wrote this script he's like boring but different no no sobriety suits him because he sounds more like drugs now uh okay so gladiator two sends maximus back to Rome as an undead
Starting point is 00:50:16 warrior and ultimately ends with a century spanning war montage which crow fights his way through the crusades world war two and Vietnam. Russell Crowe repeatedly rides out of the bodies of dying men right into the middle
Starting point is 00:50:28 of scrimmishes between Roman soldiers and Christian rebels and in a 2017 interview Scott explained the logic behind this resurrection telling a YouTuber that Maximus would travel
Starting point is 00:50:35 through the portal of a dying warrior to come back to life because he's too good to go to hell but not good enough to go to heaven so he keeps getting resurrected
Starting point is 00:50:43 on his passionate project to kill Christ would he I want it so bad Greg would it have been called Gladiator 2 Christ killer gladiator 2
Starting point is 00:50:53 colon christ killer it is ruffle crow trying to kill christ and i want it more than most things there's no way that would have ever been i want it so bad there's no way that would have been so the amount of drugs someone has to stop doing to write this script and be like this is it this is where i'm trying to get hot yeah you know what i can't do that but i can do this and like the idea of a major sequel to a best picture-winning movie being like a movie that is so blasphemous to so many people. But also it's like the opening montage of Wolverine, but
Starting point is 00:51:28 with Russell Crow coming out through bodies as they're dying as a commentary and anti-war as a gladiator, trying to kill Jesus? I mean, the movie does sound awesome. It sounds amazing. It sounds really cool. And the fact that Ridley Scott and Russell Crow get asked about it for like 15 years. If I ever interview either
Starting point is 00:51:45 of them, that's all I want to know. Have any of them showed any peculiar interest in it? Russell Crow has been like, we can't do that and really skaggy's being like no it's insane like both of them have just been like yeah it exists apparently you can read the whole script i have plans this weekend i like gladiator two not as much as christ killer which is this idea this idea sounds fucking gnarling all war as a commentary on like war being like impotent i don't know if it should be a part two though yeah i mean it's based on a there's a story like corsa or something like this classic immortal warrior idea and they kind of
Starting point is 00:52:18 tied that into this i feel like they could have been a three or four I want this as a franchise. I'm treating this as serious as possible. Yeah. So didn't it cave. This could have been a 3007 page script. I feel like if you leaped right to part two with it, it's a little much. But if you did a three or four,
Starting point is 00:52:32 and then where they're fucking desperate to keep this franchise going. You do a gladiator two. That's more linear. Yeah. And then this is the Freddie versus Jason versus Ash. You bring in Jim Caviesel. He's Jesus. Oh, that would be cool.
Starting point is 00:52:44 That would have been pretty sweet. Put it together. Milk gives them direct the hell of it. You would have made a pretty good. Haxall Ridge meets Gladiator. But I do it. Dude, I want. It's too blasphemous for Mel Gibson's taste.
Starting point is 00:52:55 No, he wouldn't do it. But I want, it's like Celebrity Death Match. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. That would have been amazing. I, dude, it could make a billion bucks. All the Catholics and Russell Crow.
Starting point is 00:53:05 And then it's like that Pope movie he did. Yeah. That would tie in. Yeah. This is my Christian crossover. And release it on Easter because it's about resurrection and shit. We have 21 streamlamps. Stream lives?
Starting point is 00:53:19 Um, Super Chats. And that's combining? Okay. That's good. So that's what I want. Maybe most. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Well, let's talk about a couple ones then that I feel like people fully expect us to talk about. Okay. All right. I'm going to combine two right now. I'm going to go through the Gambit. I'm both in them really quick. Okay. The Gambit movie.
Starting point is 00:53:43 No, actually. That might happen. I wanted to talk about the Spider-Man sequels that never were. Yep. So we have, of course, in the thumbnail, the Amazing Spider-Man 3, which would have built up to the Sinister 6 as established by the ending of Amazing Spider-Man 2. Norman Osborne was expected to return as a cryogenic head preservation and body regeneration. Think Futurama, but cooler. Of course, we saw that who was playing Mary Jane?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Who was that actress? She's in the Divergent movie, Shailene Woodley. She was supposed to be in it. They shot scenes with her that were ultimately removed. There was a deleted scene where Andrew Garfield acted his ass off at the cemetery with his dad coming back, being like, I never died. I was a spy. That was a movie. Emma Stone was discussed as returning as a clone, symbiotingge return.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Then you had... They did in the ultimate comics. she came back as carnage so that was so hot so hot and she's so popular now and dennis leary talked about maybe coming back at the they speculated him being a clone as well this was of course they say like i was canceled dude uh part two not doing so well but it sounds like it was a petty grudge held against you know andrew garfield for what the shady they literally canceled it on stage because he was like yeah that the whole thing because he refused to show up to a meeting or some shit right so yeah they had that one and then of course the
Starting point is 00:55:17 other sequel, which Mattson Tomlin has been proactively going out there saying he would love to write this. Yeah. And I'm going, yeah, buddy, go for it. Write the graphic novel. And then let's just make that Spider-Man 4, the Sam Ramey version, which you can find countless videos about it at this point, which was going to feature John Malkovich as vulture. Felicia Hardy was attached to was a Felicia Hardy was attached and Hathaway was attached to play
Starting point is 00:55:46 Felicia Hardy before she was Catwoman she was Black Cat and they were going to have a Mysterio cameo from Bruce Campbell
Starting point is 00:55:53 establishing that all his cameos and one through three were all Mysterio of course have a reconciliation with Peter and MJ I feel like
Starting point is 00:56:04 everyone's champion okay let me take a boss back a step back here if anyone deserves the sequel it's Andrew Garfield's
Starting point is 00:56:13 100%. That's the one that deserves the sequel. The one I really want, though, is the part four of Sam Ramees personally because it just seems like it's possible. I feel like we still could do it. It's right on the cusp. Do you know what I would do?
Starting point is 00:56:31 You put them in, I mean, they could do both and now. Make a movie one. That inner cuts between the two? Yeah, basically, I'd have them go back through their respective portals at the end of no way home and we see the journey of what Spy man forward been Peter Parker Toby McGuire goes back and has to reconcile with being a married man and has all the things after the consequences of the trauma of what he just went through seeing off for Malina again so he's going through the consequences of no way home and that's what brings us to an older you know Malcovich vulture and black cat all those things and then Andrew respectively goes to his universe where he's dealing with the consequences of I was able to save like his Mary Jane my Gwen Stacy I was able to save someone so now he reconciles all that rage that he talks about no way home so he's going back to his universe maybe that's
Starting point is 00:57:12 That's when you bring in the venom symbiate. And instead of it all being clones, you use the venom symbiote in his world. We finally get the venom movie we want. At the end of that movie, it ends on a cliffhanger setting up a Sinister 6 movie. And you bring in Tom. That way you get the giant movie Sony wanted that's multiversal. But you also get this grounded brand new day. So we basically get our cake and eat it too, where you get a grounded street level Tom Holland trilogy.
Starting point is 00:57:31 We get a multiversal Spider-Man duo that could lend itself to be a trilogy. And that way you get the Sinister 6 movie that Drew Goddard wrote like 15 years ago to button it all together. yeah it's what I'd do give me the keys I don't know it's not creative enough that's true that's true
Starting point is 00:57:48 it's pretty when you're lacking imagination that's true there's no I just thought of it so that's what I do but yeah I could probably flex it out yeah we can do a little more second draft
Starting point is 00:57:57 we can cut the side of the stream yeah yeah we should I should be ashamed I feel like you'll be too embarrassed yeah in 10 minutes I'll be like Greg cut it cut the feet
Starting point is 00:58:04 delete this whole this whole stream but I think it'd be great that's pretty cool it's what I'd do what I want to do is bring on a very sad, man. Michael, I want him to rant for 30 seconds about the Ben Solo movie. Oh, yeah. Our Star Wars
Starting point is 00:58:20 aficionado, who everyone forgot, you dare touch that lens. We go out of focus. Everything's screwed. Ben over here. Bend over here. Hello, internet. Hello, friends. It's been so long. Hi, Coy. Hey, man. Hey, how you feeling? How you doing? Hanging in, hanging in? Like Spider-Man. You heard my pitch. I really, really liked it, except where's Ben Solo. Where did he go? Ben Riley did it. If Palpatine somehow returned, why can't Ben Solo somehow returned? That's been a question. I, for one, as a famous actor, when I read a script, and I see that I'm the star of that script, and then I need to tell the public that I want that script made,
Starting point is 00:59:01 I am going to tell them, it is the greatest script that I've ever read. That's the number one thing that's the move. I think, honestly, Luke, Uncle Luke, trying to murder me, is going to set off some trauma. Perhaps. Should he be blamed for the war crimes and all the awful things that he did? I mean, with a barrel chest, that's how they describe him. Barrel chest? On the internet.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Oh, Adam Driver? Yeah. Oh, that is a barrel chest. Oh, it's a barrel chest. That is a husk of a man. That's one of the chunkiest boys I've ever seen. The best case for increased funding to the Pentagon. 100%.
Starting point is 00:59:41 That is a grass-fed boy. The scientific, how do we barrelize the chest? It's a gravitational pull. It's the death star of chest. It is, forget the death star. It's star killer base. He's got a pair of death stars. Yeah, they got, yeah, that's exactly sorry, Hosni and Prime.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Oh, look, here's how you think about things. Wow, this is really well thought out. Is this chat, Jepete? No. No, it gets so organized. It's a bunch of coffee and paste. of a bunch of different Google. Oh, that's great. So my pitch for Spider-Man. Okay. So first off, I think that we start off Tom Holland, his appendix rupture. Okay. No insurance. No one knows who
Starting point is 01:00:27 he is. Nobody knows who he is. Crazy. So he has to go to the ER, which is what people do when they don't have insurance and they're going through a medical crisis. Right, right, right. Then they put them under to remove the appendix. But here's what we don't realize. The appendix is actually exactly because we didn't see when the spider bit him. Yeah, we don't know his physiology. That's where the spider bit him. Okay, understood. They take out his appendix. Tom Holland. No powers.
Starting point is 01:00:51 No power. Spider-Man, no more. But the appendix has powers. Spider appendix. All right. I think it writes itself. If anyone wants to know why I'm not on the check out, you just found out one. Yeah, I think Michael's
Starting point is 01:01:09 stuck in a certain mindset. Will I see you for fallout? Yes, you'll see us for Fallout, yeah. Will they see me for fall? They'll see you. They'll see you. That's how I'll do it on camera while it's live. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Contract, verbal agreement, California legally binding. I'll see you in court. That's good to see you, Matt. All right. That was your, that was your Spider-Man 4-3. Yeah. And my next one, should I do big franchise? a franchise or more of a deep cut? What do you feel?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Let's go deep cut then. Okay. I love, love, love Slaughterhouse 5. Have you ever read Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse 5? What is that? It is a very irreverent time travel, sci-fi-based, semi-autobiographical, very important story about war. So Kurt Vonnegut survived being a prisoner of war in, I believe it was World War I, might have been World War II, I'm bad at time. And Slaughterhouse 5 is a movie. that was his coping mechanism, that was his way of describing the atrocities of war,
Starting point is 01:02:14 but he didn't want it to be a drag. He's a satirist. This is one of the great satirists of American literature. So instead of making it a linear story, he made it a time travel alien commentary on the atrocities of war. And if that doesn't sound like
Starting point is 01:02:29 an incredible vehicle for Guillermo del Toro and the great Charlie Kaufman, I don't know what does. One of the great American novels and two of the great filmmakers of our time wanted to make Slaughterhouse 5 for like 10 years and it never got off the ground. They had a movie in 1972.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I'm sure the tech was good then. Yeah. But yeah, I'm a big Vonnegut guy. And I like Charlie Kaufman quite a bit. Adaptation, I think is pretty genius. I even like Sederdoke, New York. I think he's one of those great existential writers. He's very introspective and he causes a lot of like actual after film thought.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And GDT doing special effects would have been cool. So Slaughterhouse 5's on my list. What's my favorite book? Is it? Did I describe it adequately? I believe so. It was World War II. Thank you. I'm so bad at linear time. Slaughterhouse 5, the
Starting point is 01:03:15 1970s movie, has an 82% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's from the director of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and the Sting. I should give that a chance. Holy shit. I just judged it harshly. That's crazy. Wow. I love that book is so formative. It's so good. So we don't need your movie.
Starting point is 01:03:31 You got books. It happened in the 70s. Also, people read all the time now, so people will obviously discover this story. I have read half a chapter of Frankenstein for the past month. And let me tell you, it is the most exhilarating read I have ever encountered.
Starting point is 01:03:47 How's the fire? The fire. Learning about fire is just incredible. Two pages of wood and fire. Do you feel like you're there? We'll get there soon, Alex. I went fast on that one.
Starting point is 01:04:06 No, not yet. We're in the same. the end game now. No, no, we will. Watch this. I'm going quicker. Okay. So, since you said the fire rises, let's talk about the center of this thumbnail then. The original plans for Dark Knight 3. Now, are these plans verified? Because I've heard so many different things. It's, uh, I pulled it together a combination of many of the things that they had originally had in mind here. Okay. And this might be the one thing I actually forgot to mark down in my specific notes here one second. What were the things you heard?
Starting point is 01:04:41 You Vamp for a little bit. I heard that it was going to be Heath Ledger coming back as a supporting role in the third film. It would have been more of a... Oh, I found my nose fine. Did you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And it would have been more of like a setup for, like a bigger crime team, but that felt so unfounded. I couldn't find a single source. What did you find? What they were originally planning on doing is you're right about that when it comes to he was supposed to return
Starting point is 01:05:07 as like a major presence. Um, the other thing that I read last night was that after, you know, uh, ground zero happens in Gotham that he would kind of form his own subsection Joker and create like his own little chaotic section that they have to contend with. So you have like a true anarchy in the center when you have like Bain doing his own thing on the side because the original adaptation of this was going to follow a little bit more close to the nightfall Bain storyline. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:38 and so yeah they they had it as like joker essentially acting as an agent of chaos to gotham's soul and he would was reportedly he imagined joker acting almost like gotham's dark conscience in a way of course heath ledger was expected to return because he signed off for multiple films for this we would have explored his time in arkham a little bit more as well this sounds and you know because like the other thing that people keep talking about is was the riddler supposed to be in this movie and like the big fan casting was i remember when dark i came out of rome rome williams i've heard ron williams and leonard ocaprio interesting because robin's they just did a movie together uh insomnia in between some batman no you got your timeline way off there
Starting point is 01:06:21 buddy is it yeah i thought no one did insomnia no memento then insomnia but oh before batman begins yeah well that means he knew robin william yeah he knew robin williams definitely could have been Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, this was, this, to me, is, it's sad because this is a sequel that obviously will never get. There's no, there's no reality where we're ever going to be able to get this unless we live in some type of alternate dimension where Heath Ledger does live on. Ultimately, I guess he does have like, he does have his storyline completed in the dark night. Sure. When we rewatched it, the video just went up this morning, when we watched it, I did find it a bit odd how Joker's not even mentioned once, though.
Starting point is 01:07:10 And Rises, yeah. So I feel like it does kind of eliminate even the presence of Joe, like that off-screen presence that Joker could have had. I, a version of my research was like, there were a ton of movies that Heath Ledger was going to make. And that was actually, like, one of the directions I was going to take is, is that. And that's what I realized, like, all of the things. things I could find on the Joker's continued presence. It feels like Nolan's never talked about it. It feels like Goyers never
Starting point is 01:07:37 talked about it. It feels like Jonah Nolan's never talked about it. So I'd love to know what it could have been, because I know he was going to do Queens Gambit with Ellen Page, now Elliott Page, but they were going to team up. He was going to direct a Queens Gambit movie, which ended up being an audio trailer joint turned into a show. He was going to do what
Starting point is 01:07:53 Aaron Sorkin ended up doing with Trial of Chicago 7. He was actually meeting with Aaron Sorkin. He was meeting with Spielberg the day he passed away. So Heath Ledger literally had like 10 projects. He was going to play Jeff Buckley. I think he wanted to do a Nick Drake biopic. But yeah, like the Heath Ledger, what could have been, even Parnassus completed by Heath Ledger, like, that's a video I would make just because of like the wound that is him missing from film.
Starting point is 01:08:17 But I think the pop cultureist of all is like what the Joker would have been. Well, in my research for this, I was listening to interviews with him. And he said that he actually had a pretty clear understanding of how to do the character within five minutes. It's incredible. said when he was approached for it he had a really kind of vivid idea of what to do yeah and that's cool because the whole performance feels so instinctual and intuitive yeah and it show so when he said that i believe that because of how free his performance is in that movie but yeah the the movie part of the part of the rumor speculation too was that he would be a kind of like how that deleted
Starting point is 01:08:55 scene is in the batman yeah a bit of a silence of the lambs type of character who batman does go-to at one point and with adapt in the nightfall story where bain would break out prisoners of gotham directly so it might not be exactly this like tally all gul thing but being going and they're starting his own type of revolution and so that's why i meant by you have like two opposing sides of a revolution happening at the same time yeah that would have been neat that would have that would have made me a happy camper and it just does remind me of what we lost there and the really because it is i still And now because we watch The Dark Night again, and I've thought about Heath Ledger, like, every single day throughout the day for weeks now because of that. I've lived last 20 years, Big.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah, right. The reason I do what I do. It is definitely one of the best performances of all time. It's my favorite. If not the best, it's like one of the undoubtedly best performances of all time. Yeah. I think he as an actor, like, not a bad performance in his filmography. And the amount of impact Heath Ledger had, like he, his first movie came out the year before Bush was elected and he died before Bush left office.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Wow. I heard he only had like 25 minutes of screen time in that movie. Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. It's just such presence too. That actually surprised. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:10:06 I thought he had. I'm shocked to learn that. Yeah, but I mean, so much. I haven't counted him. I'm like, can that be right?
Starting point is 01:10:13 The impact, dude. It's crazy. 25 minutes in like a two and a half hour movie? Yeah. Insane. Because every quote's from him. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yeah. Like that was the marketing. That was, and like when you think of the Dark Night, you think of the Joker. Yeah. Oh, that's what could have been.
Starting point is 01:10:27 what could have been that's a real what could have been right there uh well i want to stick with batman and quickly just say because i know i would be remiss if i didn't include it aronofsky's batman would have been a hell of a journey uh the talks were about it being a very gritty uh year one story a mechanic alfred bruce wayne um a wakene phoenix batman uh i recently heard an interview where he was saying darren aronovsky was going to direct it and darren aronovsky did press for caught stealing i think it was a josh horwitz interview where he said um a big example of of the issue I had with trying to make the film is I wanted Joaquin Phoenix, the studio wanted Freddie Prince Jr. Yeah. And so like, that's kind of not going to be the movie you
Starting point is 01:11:05 get to make if you're fighting to that level. But if you think about it, like, I've always said the best jokers would make good Batman and the best Mattman could make good jokers. And I think that is so true of Joaquin Phoenix, clearly. I think that's so true of Heath Ledger. I think that's true of Jake Gyllenhaal. I think it's true of Michael Keaton. I think there's a really cool two sides of a coin. And I think it would have been really cool to see Joaquin Phoenix as like a year one joker i mean a year one batman and uh i would love to see that gritty um take we never will but like a a 50 million dollar logan style batman year one would have been dope well speaking of batman you were the first person tell me about this after we watched batman and robin so
Starting point is 01:11:45 oh yes i actually ended up watching videos about it uh first i had to watch videos of what went wrong with batman and robin you know the studios thought they had a really good movie on their hands like with the version they submitted they thought that was a good movie insane how they're from the 90s were dude how they were like we got something good it's a big win looking at dailies going on this movie's going to be a hit
Starting point is 01:12:08 sure is shiny a lot of lights insane anyway there was a Batman 5 that Joel Schumacher had in mind I've heard a couple of different titles Batman Unchained Batman Triumphant and this one was going to include
Starting point is 01:12:23 Scarecrow as a person who's terrorizing Gotham. Scarecrow is still a villain who I feel has not been utilized properly yet. And Bruce Wayne with fear toxin, triggering hallucinations of past rogues. That's how you would get Jack Nicholson's Joker back. This one's wild. Harley Quinn was going to be reconceived as Joker's vengeful daughter seeking retribution. How awful. Very Tim Burton. That just strips away But this would have been Schumacher movie. Oh, that's true, too. But apparently the climax would have reportedly put Bruce in Arkham, Insylum,
Starting point is 01:13:02 confronting his psyche and legacy, which is something Schumacher was very interested in that they never really got to explore. Batman forever, I would love to see that cut. Yeah, supposedly that's a big thing that was removed from it, was exploring more of that psychological aspect. And yes, it was an attempt to steer back Batman and Robbins camp toward a little bit more psychological drama.
Starting point is 01:13:23 So this sounds a little bit more like what Joel Schumacher was known for outside of the Batman. Right. Or what you feel like he was doing in Batman Forever, even. Or like what he was intending or wanting for in Batman Forever, right? With like having the hottest psychologist ever and exploring Batman Psychos, Jesus, the hottest icon. The hottest. There's so much like Freudian commentary on like the lust and all the tight shots. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I don't describe it. I said that Batman Forever feels like it's trying to touch me. It does. The movie. It's a real like provocative. You hold those McDonald's a couple of little different now, don't you? Yeah, this is one where I'm glad we didn't get it. It sounds like it would have been better than Batman or Robin.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I'll say that. I feel this would have been a better note for Joel Schumacher to go out on. Still doesn't sound like a good movie. I do not have faith. This would have been a good movie. But it sounds like it would have been better than Batman and Robin. I'm going to quickly do a few. I'm going to quickly do my next few so we can make sure we get to them.
Starting point is 01:14:18 But the quick one I do want to mention is we almost had a scream three where Matt Lillard came back. Oh, hell yeah. So Matt Lillard, the original script to have been Mocker coming back from the dead. He even tweeted, it was just a TV, right? You'd think he'd survive and focus on a Heather's S school massacre
Starting point is 01:14:33 orchestrated by ghost-faced trainees working on the infamous ghoulor killer's ghoulish appearance. Craven reportedly threw those pans out because of Columbine. So what would have happened as Scream 3, which lined up right around when Columbine actually happened in real life.
Starting point is 01:14:46 They were going to have like a bunch of ghost face in a school, and then it lined up a little too much with what we've done. dealt with for the last 26 years in real life i'll say i'll say i'm never really been as big of a fan of the idea of matthew little coming back as what seems like 99% of the scream fan base scream is undoubtedly my favorite horror franchise the only scream movie i do not like is scream three it is easily the weakest of the screams only one i genuinely do not like yeah that sounds like a much
Starting point is 01:15:19 what a cool way to make a trilogy arc and it would have yeah would it perfectly tie it ties into the Jamie Fox like movie lore and him coming back for the trilogy it would have probably ended that era of scream which then would have allowed for the four or five reboot which were great yeah but I'm really curious if they use any of that for what this next screen is going to be with Lillard he's such a good actor he's such a good dude that I'm very excited for the experience of why he wanted to come back but I would have loved that scream three then I'll throw in there we almost had a scream seven oh with Melissa Barreira and General Tegas, and it would have been a sequel that perhaps one day they will find
Starting point is 01:15:54 some weird resolution to bring them back. That is something that I'm on, I will be there opening weekend for whatever the screen movie is. Yeah. But yeah, I'm still definitely on the fence about it and because it does feel like, you know, a rise of Skywalker reaction. Yeah. In a way.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Bring everyone back. No, go show up. Bring them back. Yeah. Yeah. So it feels that way. but clearly five and six were setting up a big arc for her. And six,
Starting point is 01:16:22 six is ending, especially set up an arch for her. And I thought it would have been so cool. It seemed like they were sending her out to become the ghost face killer, which would have been so different than the Sydney Prescott journey. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And I would have loved to see like nature, nurture out of that. Yeah. So we're not getting that one, though. We're getting something else. We'll see. That people seem excited for. And there's some other alt ones here.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Man, there's so many to go through here. Okay. thinking about what we should talk about we have to discuss Zach Snyder's Justice League part two and three I feel like we would be remiss if we didn't and least broach it so here's the shortest summation
Starting point is 01:16:59 I could find out of two or three here we go after stepping wolf's defeat Darkside arrives he has a planet called salvation where all the villains are there oh yeah first villain he fight
Starting point is 01:17:13 peacemake Who's been trapped there for years? Yeah, there's my fucking years. You're like, why only me? Frank Grillo shows up. He's mad at. Lex Luthor forms a Legion of Doom, which would have had Ocean Master, Black Manta,
Starting point is 01:17:31 Dr. Poison, and there were others in concept. There's like storyboards and shit that I think are like somewhere. They're like on display. On Vero. I think they're like in some museum somewhere, actually. Yeah. To aid in the evasion.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Anti-life is tied to Earth and Lois Lane. Darkside kills Lois, breaking Superman, who succumbs to the anti-life, as teased in that one moment in Zach Snyder's Justice League, and becomes a fucking tyrant, the world collapses into the nightmare's future. That's nightmare with a K. Don't forget. Word. Teased also in Justice. We're Batman, Mira, Cyborg, Flash, Deathstroke, and Joker, as Tees in Justice League, mounted desperate resistance to protect a temporal gambit. Barry time travels to Warren Bruce.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Lois is the key. But the first attempt is too early, preserving the nightmare timeline. The resistance mission centers on surviving long enough to engineer a second precise time jump. Next one is shorter for part three. Bruce corrects this moment, sacrificing himself to save Lois, preventing Superman's fall. Wonder Woman ascends his queen. Aquaman unites the seas. Green lanterns arrive to join Ert's armies.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Martian Manhunter stops pertaining to be Lois Lane. and they enter the fight. A United League takes the war to apocalypse where Superman defeats amid fire pits and genocidal forges. Years later, Lois and Clark's son often described as Bruce Kent. I also heard there was another version
Starting point is 01:18:57 where Bruce Wayne and Lois Lane pregnant. Yeah. That would have a hot baby. Hot baby. He's visited by... It's a... Enzel Elkhort's Treaty. He's been printed on by Taylor Lautner.
Starting point is 01:19:12 There would have been a... Commissioner Barbara Gordon, who had offered the mantle of Batman. Anyway, what do the odds this gets done? Do you think it'll ever get done? 7%. Do you think a graphic novel could ever be done? Sure. I just think that would be...
Starting point is 01:19:28 I don't feel like you're a fan of this. No. No. But you like the Snyder cut. I do. So you like Snack Ziders, just to say, one, but you are not a fan of where part two and three of her heading. I have no interest in a pregnant, Lois Lane of Bruce's child. Is that the only thing?
Starting point is 01:19:42 And there's so many, it doesn't sound great. Okay, so beyond that really obvious one where I feel like most fans, I don't care how much you love Snyder's vision, there's got to be, there's got to be one part in your, in your heart that thumps a little bit in the wrong direction going, is that right? Can I be on board for that fully? You know, but outside of that, what else is about this is that you're not a big fan of? I don't like the characterization of any of the characters in that universe enough to have it keep going at the cost of actually. getting the characters. Like who? Like a Bruce Wayne that
Starting point is 01:20:16 uses guns or there's Superman that kills or a dead Jimmy Olson or a Lois Lane who has no chemistry with Clark Kent or an Aquaman who is yelling Bia or a flash who like Bia.
Starting point is 01:20:30 He's like Howard Dean, the character. Like there's not any the characters are Bia! Bia! Bacomian! I like Jason Mamoa. But so like
Starting point is 01:20:42 To me, it's not worth continuing in a thing that feels like it's already reached a beautiful point with Justice League. Well, I'll say, though, is I think Darkside sounds fucking awesome in this. I think it sounds like the use of awesome in the 90s where it's very shiny. Like, it's just awesome. It's not substantive. But do you feel that whatever this Wolfgang Peterson ones that you were pitching for earlier? I feel like it would have been like Troy and would have been like its own thing, not this own thing. And I feel like I got the itch scratched with Snyder cut. Like, I got to see a cool
Starting point is 01:21:16 culmination of this really big grand story in a really wonderful way with gods and all that awesomeness. I would love the Wolf King Peterson one because I haven't seen that in his vision of gods and sandal and sword. You know what I mean? So that's why that's way more exciting for me. This is more of the thing that I think doesn't work for me. I honestly feel like if this was a comic book, I would fucking love it. I think I have said many times and I get a lot of crap. I think that the incredible nature of those films as an elseworld is powerful. But you can't make
Starting point is 01:21:46 $400 million else worlds and also have a main continuity. So this to me is at the cost of getting to see the characters represented in the way I enjoy. So I would not want to see those at the cost of the Batman, at the cost of
Starting point is 01:22:04 Superman, at the cost, you know what I mean? So this is a really cool concept for, you know, stuff that is a vision that I feel like has a beautiful culmination with Snyder cut fascinating fascinating yeah I don't think you are wrong at all at the same time I'd be lying about said I wasn't super intrigued to see this fulfilled like this sounds kind of cool it sounds like a weird heavy metal to me I don't know what it is That's something about those Snyder films where I am often like, yeah, I totally see why, you know, people will be mad at Superman Snapping's Oddsnack.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I, all these things that go against the comic book characters. Yet, for some reason, I find the choices rather compelling. And the older I get, the more drawn to it I am versus steering away from it. I'm someone who wants there to be the Batman and a DCU Batman. I'm someone who enjoys different takes on these characters if money wasn't a factor and the schedule wasn't a factor if we could have movies come out June and July
Starting point is 01:23:19 both make a billion dollars and the studios had infinite money I would love to see it I don't want to see it more than I want to see the Batman 2 more than I want to see Man of Tomorrow. So this is something I'd love to see if there was no restraints on money but that's not the world we live in
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah. Does that make sense? But we are playing a big what-if game. Yeah. You just pitched, you know, Jesus Christ, Star Killer. I want that so bad. I want Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:23:46 Gladiator way more than this, though. All right. Oh, you're right. I don't have the thing in front of me. I was proud of getting that far. How many people got Natalie and Brulia just bouncing around? She's a such a good song. The album is fired, too.
Starting point is 01:24:04 All right. Last year, I was so close to nailing this. And then I tried to... And I tried again this morning, and I was like, oh, man, I forgot how to do it. I didn't even, like, get to 100%. Now I'm at, like, 80%. All right. It's the fast part of Godzilla.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Let me just wake up for a second. What? What the shit just happened? We're back live. Oh, do it. Oh, too. all right let me let me let me try all right did they get my embryo get it honestly we had to we've been through so many computers in the last 10 minutes and like
Starting point is 01:24:51 internet connections i don't know Greg's your new godzilla no no i'm going to i'm 80% there you got this dumb all right do do dum no just the fast part that's the fast part i'm trying to learn to get down fill him with the venom and eliminate my other words i'm in him i don't want to hurt him but I did him in a fitter rage and murder and again nobody will evade. I'm going to kill them in the balder fucking bodies. In there, like, a blittering, everything, incinerate or renegade. I'm here to make anybody with the penefrate, but don't nobody want it, but they're going to get it anyway, because I'm beginning to feel like a mentally ill
Starting point is 01:25:18 until I'll be killed. I'm a killer, but then the vanilla gorilla, you're bringing the killer. But then me out of me, you don't want to be the enemy of the demon and the receiving enemy with stupidity. It'd be every bit of me is the epitome of a spitter, but I'm in the vicinity, motherfucker. You better duck are you fin to be dead than many you're an enemy. Wow, that's fucking hard.
Starting point is 01:25:33 100% of you is 50% of me I'm at the fucking finish you bitch I'm fatal you want to battle I'm available I'm blowing up like an inflatable I'm unavoidable I'm unavoidable I'm unavoidable I got a trailer full of money and I'm painful I'm not afraid of pull a man stop
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yeah I got a pride's like 10 more times Good circular breathing though I felt I felt I was like less breath so I would have expected Okay we're back Are we done we did it guys We're back we're on air We're mostly back Okay they caught that and hey the lag is fixed
Starting point is 01:25:57 Yes all right guys What a good way to test it with boring We are back Godzilla than ever. So Coy was telling me nothing, we didn't miss anything. Nothing. Coy was telling me about a not sequel movie again. What was it called?
Starting point is 01:26:10 The last one I had to talk about. A movie I've been waiting for since 2019. It was announced in 2012. It's called All-Star Weekend. What the hell is this? It is a movie where Jamie Fox and Whiteface plays a racist cop and Jamie Fox makes a whole Tropic Thunderass
Starting point is 01:26:27 journey and Robert Tad Jr. plays a Mexican man and I want this comedy so bad. Oh, wow. White-faced Jamie Fox racist cop I needed my heart I needed my soul All-Star Weekend It also stars the game
Starting point is 01:26:40 One of my favorite rappers of all time Who had a really decent acting career For a while He was in Street Kings and Keanu Reeves Uh The cast is Benisiel Dol Toro
Starting point is 01:26:47 Robert Tony Jr. Gerard Butler Eval Longoria Ken Jong's in it French Montana's in it DJ Khaled's in it Jeremy Pivens in it I want it
Starting point is 01:26:57 So the ones you're most passionate about Are movies that just never got made Yeah Yeah, it's like my what if. They're not even like... Well, this got made it, fully filmed. It's done. They shot this in 2019.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And they just never edited it together? It's got a white J.B. Fox and it's 2025, Greg. Why have they never just put it together? It's got Brown-Faze Downey Jr. Who gives a shit? The Society. We don't have nice things. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:27:22 It's got canceled in utero. This is how I get pushed to the all right. It got a boarded in theatrical room, Greg. We'll never going to see it. They shot it October. 2016. What happened to our sense of humor? October 2016, they shot this. Unbelievable. Ten years ago.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Anzla Gorge should come back. Whiteface, Jamie Fox. I just want to kind of say this whole time. James Fox is out there in white face. We should forgive Jonah Hill. Yeah. All he said was, you know, you mind wearing pants when you go outside instead of being naked. What are wrong with that?
Starting point is 01:27:53 It's very reasonable. You're not dating a porn star. Anyway. The surfer element's the funny part to me. He was like mad at the. Surf Instructure or something. The other movie that I had on my list going.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Here's some fun ones that I'm so surprised. Dread Dose. Yes. We watched that together here. Love that. One of my favorite. Still one of my favorite reaction videos ever done. I absolutely adored that movie.
Starting point is 01:28:22 And this one was going to explore the Hall of Justice a little bit more. I don't even need to tell you the fucking plot. It's Dread, too. Salt. Dread is. There's two, okay, there's one movie that I saw someone ask in the Super Chat, so I'm not, I have a very similar point that I wanted to make for Dread to. Because Dread is a film that was a flop when it came out, undoubtedly. It was a flop. But it's so rare nowadays where we get movies that have an opportunity to grow in the cultural osmosis as something like Dread does now. Yeah. Dread has only gotten more popular. The demand for a sequel has gotten more popular. Carl Urban's only gotten a bigger star. I just, he's, that's the main face. some New World Combat movie. Yeah, like he's done it.
Starting point is 01:29:04 The boys and everything. And this really does seem like the kind of comic book movie that we could use right now. And I feel like the way you get around it is you just don't call it Dread to. Judge Dredd. You could just call it.
Starting point is 01:29:17 First on Dread the next one's Judge Dredd. Yeah, just call it something else where it's obviously the fans. It's a sequel to Dread. Yeah, but make it approachable in the first 10 minutes. Exactly. Where you don't feel like you need to watch the first one, but you get the same director back.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Everyone involved again. And I don't know why they haven't done this one yet Because this is such a big demand film Like the Dread property has just been dead Yeah For a while Well they both didn't do well The original did fine
Starting point is 01:29:42 And then the new one didn't I am the Lord I'm the Toastika Yeah And I am the Rocky Bapa What are we some kind of Judge Dreads one I'm the Rambo I am the Cobra King
Starting point is 01:29:54 Cobra King What's a guy? Cobra Cobra I am Cobra Cobra I'm the don't push motive from the tree. That poor guy that has to play him.
Starting point is 01:30:07 How's that kind of... Filling with him, I'm eliminated him. Otherwise, I'm in a minute him. I don't want to hurt an... Fitterate at the edge of tomorrow two. Live, die, repeat, too. I don't know why that hasn't come out yet. Yeah, I realize now most of mine aren't sequels,
Starting point is 01:30:18 which is a funny misinterpretation of the assignment. It's weird. When you call something a sequel in the first three words of your title, Leitha Weapon Five. Leitha Weapon Five is a sequel. It's definitely a sequel. Written by Dick Donner. Mel Gibson wants to...
Starting point is 01:30:31 direct it. Danny Glover signed on. Will it ever happen? Not only does Dick Donner, not only does Mel Gibson wanted director, Dick Donner wanted him to write down. It's like, it's the time. Yeah. So that's a big one for me. That's a sequel. I don't know if this counts as a sequel. Del Toro wanted to do the Hobbit movies.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Oh, that's a good what if that we should have gotten. Yeah, because that would have been incredible. That is something that I like the Hobbit movies are a weird voice. Yes, I know they've grown a fan base as a play. But It's like the prequels. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Then they are prequels. It's like the prequels, comma, to Lord of Rings. It wants to be like a marriage into Lord of the Rings, but because it's the same director and stuff, it feels like, and not Peter Jackson's fault, it feels like a lesser than version of Lord of the Rings, whereas Del Toro would have brought a different visual panache to the whole thing. And the practical he would have brought, and hopefully one movie, like the stretching of it is silly. One or two.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Two movies are Hobbitigris. And the style look, feel, tone. the gothic romanticism that's often associated with El Toro. Yeah. I think that would have been something really,
Starting point is 01:31:36 really special instead of discount Lord of the Rings. I hope his mountains of madness gets made. I've been thinking about that too. Like, mountains of madness is something he said
Starting point is 01:31:43 to passion for forever. Terry Gilliam's watchman is one of those two for me. Terry Gilliam almost made watchman before. You want to make a show out of that,
Starting point is 01:31:49 yeah. You want to make a mini-series. I thought about that a lot in this journey. Brazilian job, that's a sequel. The Italian job sequel that turned into Fast Five.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Why have we not done an Italian job sequel? That would be so good. And everyone's a bigger star now. Is anyone canceled from the Italian job? Mark Wahlberg, Jason Satham, Charlize Staran, Seth Gren,
Starting point is 01:32:09 Most Deaf, Edward Norton's dead? I don't remember. It's not dead. He's doing great. Oh, in the movie. No, no, no. I think they just get him arrested or something.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I don't remember. In life, I was like he's fine. Donald Sutherland's dead. Yes. In real life, too. Cloverfield never got a direct sequel. It was supposed to. It got 10 Cloverfield Lane and stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:26 There was never a Clovey sequel. That was supposed to happen. I love the first Cloverfield. You'd want a sequel to Cloverfield? Yeah, dude. Love Cloverfield. Would you do another found footage movie? Yeah, if it was as good as that one.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Oh, Coy, do you realize what you're asking here? Another found footage. Someone else just happened to make another documentary. Someone on the other side of town. What would, somehow it would like further the narrative? I'm not Drew Goddard. I didn't write the script. There's another monster and more chaos ensues.
Starting point is 01:32:54 No, man. I think 10 Cloverfield Lane is like the perfect, the ideal scenario. for a club movie. It is pretty cool. My movies that never got made that I want to see David Fincher's Elliot Ness. He was supposed to, he developed an Elliot Ness project for like 20 years, and I'm obsessed with that world and what Fincher could have brought to it.
Starting point is 01:33:11 The original cut of American History X before Ed Norton changed it so much, the director wanted his name taken off of it. Eddie Kay, like, he wanted to be credited as Humpty Dumpty because he doesn't claim that film as his own. So I'd love to see that original cut because I love that movie. Tarantino Star Trek. Scorsesey wanted to make a Ramones film. Imagine like
Starting point is 01:33:27 a musical biopic from Scorsese. That would have been insane. And then my last one was Quentin Tarantino, before he made Kill Bill, was developing a Luke Cage movie starting Lawrence Fishburn. See, I think he could still do that. The incredible. Except Mike Coulter is definitely coming back. Yes. As he should.
Starting point is 01:33:46 As he should. But Lawrence Fishpurn in the 2000s as Luke Cage with Tarantino directing. Mike Coulter has always stayed in shape. And for some reason, the one gym I go to decides to attract every famous person who I will never speak to. It's a very expensive gym. And Mike Coulter works out at my gym. And he is looking super buff right now. I want to talk to him.
Starting point is 01:34:05 But I'm like, I only know you from that one thing, man. I'm sure that's the one thing you're tired of being asked about. He's excited to come back, though. I heard he's in the show Evil, which is great. Yeah. But I've heard people say it's a great show. So I want to watch that. So that way I have something else to talk about.
Starting point is 01:34:20 That's not fucking. Just look at Cage. As goes to look at Jee. And it was 10 years ago, and I'm sure that's everybody. Yeah. Okay. So, Tarantino also had a different sequel he wanted to do that you just reminded me of. Oh. He's talked rather publicly about it is that Michael Madsen in Reservoir Dogs and John Travolta. Brothers. Yeah, and Paul Fiction. It is a Vega Brothers movie. Yes. I remember that. That would have been cool. Would have been all okay.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Could have been fine. Between Kill Bill 3 and Vega Brothers movie. Kill Bill 3. Yeah, Kill Bill. kill bill three for sure the Vega brothers movies just sounds like a fun concept the fact that we're getting a Fincher directed tarrantino script next year is so crazy to me well speaking of fincher let's not forget he was attached to a massive massive sequel and i'm surprised you of all people have not brought this up because it had been kind of on the top of my list here eighth deadly sin no come on man a brad pitt movie benjamin button two in utero no no come on you got this it's a brad pit movie on a global scale. Oh, World War
Starting point is 01:35:29 Z! I wanted that so bad! I think I blocked it from my mind because I was so excited about it. I love that first one, and I love them. The first one should not have worked. No, and it's incredible. By the amount of money they spent, all the reshoots they did, and World War Z-2 had Fincher
Starting point is 01:35:45 attached to direct, and that skyrocketed in my interest. I forgot. This happened. Because Fincher's never done a movie that big. Yeah. That's literally a global zombie movie. And would Finchers you know a knack for
Starting point is 01:36:00 grim, bleak violence in a zombie world but you're doing a zombie movie dude that sounds amazing what that I've been what weird psychology would this movie have explored and now with the
Starting point is 01:36:13 after pandemic which I know people are like we want to not remind people of the pandemic sometimes though you got a thing like this where now is a good time you do that thing
Starting point is 01:36:22 and see what you can do with your pandemic commentary 20 years later it's such a good job of being a fascinating look at death and I would love to see Fincher handle a zombie thing yeah I still think there's an opportunity to do this yeah World War Z is another one
Starting point is 01:36:34 that has remained popular oh 100% it's it's kind of and it it's that's the weirdest thing to me it has remained a super popular film yeah if anyone covers it it gets fucking massive views it's a super popular movie it's a great movie made money
Starting point is 01:36:49 we can do a rewatch of that yet Halloween phone yeah that'd be fun yeah I'll just change everything we have free time yet right now this actually now that i think about it out of any movie on this list that hasn't got it made i understand world war z was expensive but it seems like that paid off right world war z two should have been made yeah i'd still be there and why it still has not still could get made it still very much could get made yeah i don't understand in a post contagion world yeah 100 i went to the neurologist it was playing in the waiting room that's evil of them it is the
Starting point is 01:37:23 what a weird thing to do i don't think they knew That's so wrong. You mean the movie where to kill these guys? You have to shoot them in the head. And you're a neurologist. That is cruel. But everyone in the waiting room,
Starting point is 01:37:34 fucking engrossed. And I thought it felt like, what a brilliant idea. You should have movies playing in the waiting room with these doctors offices. 100%. Maybe not World Warzia.
Starting point is 01:37:43 The neurologist, but you know, that's one. And Edge of Tomorrow, too, is one that is another one that is also grown in popularity. And I do understand that sometimes these movies that grow in popularity
Starting point is 01:37:52 might not pan out well because I think sometimes they wait too long to do the sequel when it's like wait this is growing popularity we should do the sequel now yeah but that's the but that's not like no it's it's been like 20 years now we can't fucking do a sequel now well or z that bread pit looks great they can do it and you just let a time jump happen in the movie yeah oh there's so many more on here yeah my mind hunter if they make a movie is is online because that show not getting its final third season okay if i'm gonna just if i'm just throw one more fun one in here oh there's some good ones though if i'm gonna throw
Starting point is 01:38:23 one more fun one in here. And then we're going to go speed around these amazing super chats that we got. Okay. We could talk about E.T. 2. We could talk about Batman 3. We could talk about Gremlin's 3.
Starting point is 01:38:37 But I want to mention the Godfather part 4. This is a thing Klobler wanted to do. This is a real thing. It was structured like part 2, where it would intercut between Sonny Corleone, who is James Kahn's character, rise in the 1930s.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Leonardo Caprio was the one who was widely rumored for it against Vincent Mantini's Andy Garcia from the Oceans movies that's what he's known for he's the biggest star of those films 1980's expansion Vincent's attempt at legitimizing corrods into a corporate political syndicate more ruthless than Michael's era
Starting point is 01:39:15 you know now I said this out loud I don't want it I was like At first I was like, man, they could have done some right. I don't even know if Godfather 3 has gotten love over time. We're getting Heat 2. That's going to have Leo. It's going to be fine. Are you excited about that?
Starting point is 01:39:33 Adam Driver and Leo and Heat 2? With the guy that looks like Val Kilmer playing Val Kilmer's, yeah, I'm excited about that. You're not? No. Dude, I love Michael Man. Do you not like Heat? I think it's a very overrated movie. We talked about this, and I remember blocking it out.
Starting point is 01:39:51 For a friendship. I've seen it so many times. And I am like a massive De Niro Puccino fan. I had my own cinematic universe growing up. I would watch a bunch of Pacino movies, a bunch of De Niro movies. What's what you like about? I think it is,
Starting point is 01:40:08 I think it's a... It's the Freddie versus Jason of that universe. It's just so unbelievably like melodramatic in a way I do not find appealing. Do you like Michael Mann? I like collateral. Okay. that's probably his most like blockbustery of films like it's his most like probably his most normie movie yeah it's like the movie that like regulars like you know
Starting point is 01:40:30 you like casual you mean his last good movie I like Miami Vice and I'm the one person that likes Miami Vice Joseph Kaczynski's remaking it into a more accessible version I'm very excited for that too man who's in that who's doing that Joseph Kinsinski yeah yeah the actors Michael B Jordan and I think Glenn Powell yes I think you're right that's going to be great. Yeah, and they're still going to use that Kanye and Lincoln Park song. Yeah, for encore. And they're going to go get mohitos. Sucking for a mojito. That's
Starting point is 01:41:01 Jay-Z, don't you dare. Who did I say? He said Kanye. The other side of Watch the Throne. They collab and they collab. You cannot look this much like Mike Shinoda and get it wrong. I bleed it out. All right. Well,
Starting point is 01:41:20 anytime the internet freezes. It really takes... throws everything off. I didn't even get to talk about Stranger Things we want to theater. We'll talk about that next week. It's going to save cinema. We're not here next week, but we have several weeks to talk about it. Talk about in November.
Starting point is 01:41:31 It comes out of Christmas. You were asking, is Glenn Powell, Austin, Butler, and Michael B. Jordan. Thank you. Currently rumored for Miami Vice, written by Dan Gilroy and a couple other guys as well. Is Austin Butler about to be in Heat 2 and in Miami Vice? Oh, my God,
Starting point is 01:41:47 Coy. Because that's about to change everything. A Butler Gassel. I want to rob a Mikeman. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to wrong away. I'm going to make all these remakes. Look out, man. Oh, we make the movies. Oh, it's cuss you in half.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I'm a young bell killer, man. Yeah, he's great. He's also rumored for heat too. Oh, I'm so excited for the Butler Assants. Yeah, he hasn't been working with it. He's in a lot of stuff. He's a good one. All right, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:42:12 How many do we got? A lot. How many? Alex, count. What are you doing here? This is why Peter calls you names. 36. She's distracted by her.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Short sleeves. All right, Alex, timer. Let's cover the serum laps because there's less there. So it feels like we're completing something. Psychological effect. We have to do quality. Ready.
Starting point is 01:42:33 I love to hear it. Is that part of the 36? It sure is. Oh, thank God. 36, so we have 29. Don't give me sass. I'll sick Peter on you. Seven first, then 29.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Don't think about the numbers. Think about the quality. Yes, I'll think about the numbers Okay, I'm ready I'm ready to answer with such a zeal Should I just read them? Who's gonna read them? Oh, I can read them too if you like
Starting point is 01:43:02 Yeah, John, we haven't heard your voice in a while We're doing Supras first? Nope, streams Streams. I think we said it like a few times. Streams, I'm sorry, I'm Octopus. He's looking at Austin Butler. I'm looking at a lot of stuff over here.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Hey, we got Stephen, or Stefan, if you prefer, kicking us off over here. Thank you for chiming in. Just booked back to the future IMAX with the release of that and Jaws IMAX, which classic film, 80s, and earlier would you love to see an IMAX? I would love to see once upon a time in the West or Towering Inferno. Big love from the UK. I would love to time travel back in time to two weeks ago
Starting point is 01:43:42 and actually use my ticket I bought for Jaws and watch it instead of forgetting it in the midst of shooting something and being like, wait, I think I was supposed to see Jaws a couple hours ago. That's my answer. That's very sad. His question wasn't about the specific movies. It was any movie? What movie would you want to see in an IMAX re-release?
Starting point is 01:44:02 That's I converted for that. He said 80s, but I think you have for a way. Since you lack media, since you have media literacy here? When's time? What is a sequel? World War II. 80s?
Starting point is 01:44:16 80s or earlier? I'm going to go lethal weapon in IMAX. I think the action comedy, iMacs is really special uh and i feel like that movie is so important to me and i've only ever seen it in theaters once and that was because i i ran a projection booth and i just played my blu-ray but i'd love to see it like projected correctly uh so yeah lethal weapon oh man no terminator two why they're not done a terminator two by max that's actually really surprising terminator two is the the sound the music and the pitcher it's everything the saxophone and lethal
Starting point is 01:44:45 weapon the big saxophone though him saying i'm too old for this shit On the real big. He's oversized too old. He is way too old. He is largely too old. Every wrinkle of Danny Glover's 50-year-old face. That's my answer. What's next?
Starting point is 01:45:07 We beat the time, right? Yeah, we did it. But I appreciate the question. And back to the future on IMAX, well worth it. Killing the game. Highly recommend it. We got Dan V-900. Dan V's got...
Starting point is 01:45:17 Hey, Dan, Dan, here every week, and so is Stephen. Crushing it. Now, Dan, V. does have a couple, so I can read them both. They're separated by a number of people, but I'll do both Dan's. Coy.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Oh, I'm so sorry. Here we go. Let me pull me in here. Oh, yeah, we called the chat citizens now. We decided to do that when you weren't. Oh, citizens have made a lot of choices when you were. A big executive decisions while I was out there getting stab in the head. His angle is way less pretty than it could be. Yeah, there's some light missing
Starting point is 01:45:46 on John's face. He's too pretty. Due to technical issues. All right, here we go. So, we got Dan V-900. Coy, not with you on Peterson's BVS because I read this script by Akiva Goldsman. It's bad. Oh, no. Dick, Alfred, and Gordon were already dead.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Bruce was retired for five years. Clark divorced Lois. It starts with Bruce's wife getting killed at their wedding. It's a lot. It's a lot, Coy. Dan V goes on to say. This is a, okay. Dan v's second thing is unrelated
Starting point is 01:46:22 so do we want that right now or not all right yeah talk about the freaking you're on camera do you care Alex now she's been doxed you're visible everyone knows our location
Starting point is 01:46:34 and Alex's face there we go this is a really this is a cool angle I was trying to hold a light on John it didn't work out I did not really and no disrespect to Mr. Goldsman who I'm sure is watching
Starting point is 01:46:44 I did not realize it was an Akiva Goldsman script that does tarnish a bit of my Wolf King Peterson hype. I think Akiva Goldsman and I see superheroes fundamentally differently. That does sound like bummer city. So if I'm going to say
Starting point is 01:46:57 I don't want things to feel like an else world to the level of not getting my characters, that certainly qualifies. So that does drop it well below Gladiator 2 Christ Killer, which I think is the champion of the day. Sounds to mean like Zach Snyder's Justice League 2 and 3 would have been
Starting point is 01:47:13 way better than this Akiva Goldsman shit. Colin Farrell's Batman. That doesn't matter. Ben Affleck, as Batman, didn't change a lot for a lot of people. He's a great Batman, too. Just because you get a hulking, good-looking guy, a good actor to play Batman,
Starting point is 01:47:27 doesn't mean you're going to get a good movie, Coy. He's no Will Arnett. He's no George Clooney. We actually, Lego Batman's pretty great. On the list of Batman movies, like that's up there. Bruce, it's me, Barbara. Favorite line?
Starting point is 01:47:42 Favorite discovery? I love that at the first 20 minutes, you're like, wait, is this movie awesome? And then about 40 minutes in, And you're like, I'm having a way better time. And I was like, you don't know how long this goes. And by an hour and a half, you're like, please let it stop. Yeah, it was like, we were struggling the last half hour.
Starting point is 01:47:57 It wouldn't end. I've never walked out of a reaction. That is truly the never-ending story. That was rough. What's next? All right. We'll go in chronological order here. Hey, gang.
Starting point is 01:48:09 There we go. This is the actual thing. If you open up my document, this is the one that is actually at the very, very top of my list. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay, here we go then. Yeah. DeMani has this to say.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Thanks for chiming in. Alita Battle Angel needs a sequel. That's the one. That's the one that I think the World War II is probably the most surprising in terms of how much money. Yeah. But the one that I think is truly the most championed is this one. Dude, I would love it. Please read for some more time.
Starting point is 01:48:42 I interrupt the dinner. I would be thrilled about it. Okay. Because he could fucking make it. in his like second his bedroom or something right doesn't he have like he has like the whole town that they shot he has everything they're ready to go yeah that's incredible and that's another one that has exponentially shot up in popularity it's i don't think it's a perfect film i don't even know if i think it's a great film i know a lot of people love it but uh i remember thinking it was a lot
Starting point is 01:49:09 of fun but it is certainly something that i think they could make a sequel i don't know why they haven't done it and i feel like they could make something stronger it sets up for a sequel edwarden has a cameo at the end to play the big batty oh i forgot about that yeah it's all i really remember i think it's why i saw it i don't remember the actual plot or who lives in but i do know that edwarden was set up to be a bad guy in the second one and it's got a world of a manga to pull from yeah this is one that i feel like audiences would truly actually show up for because it has become much more beloved they just cast the girl from alien earth to save on budget she looks just like that girl or you
Starting point is 01:49:47 just use the same girl who's already still alive and working and doing interviews. Is her face not? Isn't she CGII? Rosa Salazar's face is augmented with CGII, but it's like a mocap performance. Oh, that's cool. They mocapped her and then they
Starting point is 01:50:03 took her eyes and like made them huge. Keep Rosa Salazar. She was great. I like that movie. I remember liking it, but I don't remember the movie. Yeah. That'd be cool. And he goes on to say he saw Tron Ares in 3D. He said that he fell more in love with AI after it.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Oh, good. Good. The propaganda worked. Best I'm X in the world. Yeah. Also need a Roxy stream. Love her and Tara so much, and of course, mostly everyone else. Tune in next Friday.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Well, yeah, Roxy didn't want to do a stream, so they do it in a pre-tape instead. Mostly everyone else means someone's not included. That's true. They don't like Michael. Yep. Greg secretly hates Michael. They don't like Michael's essence. Sigrely.
Starting point is 01:50:44 All right. Thank you so much, DeMani. That's right. Chip CRISPR. Hey, guys. Comic question for Koi. Hey. Have you started DC-K-O?
Starting point is 01:50:55 And do you think that the heroes who have to kill other heroes as well as villains for the power will have some sort of PTSD in their story arcs following the event? I think DC-K-O is going to be ending in a way. And I don't know this. This is just me inferring as a fan. I know nothing about the next six months of editorial. I think it's going to end it a way that's going to absolve them narratively, so it doesn't affect too much of the overarching story.
Starting point is 01:51:20 I think so far it's done a really good job having a psychological effect on characters in canon and the way it's setting up is really smart and fun. But I think if the book, if an event like this lasts too long, it starts to wear on continuity and it starts to wear on other stories. So I think it would be short-sighted for this to go on after the books for too long. I think that was a big part of Krakawa's issue is it felt weird that it wasn't affecting other books because it was such a big thing for X-Men. and then crocoa itself was such a long title it started to wear on crocoa so i think
Starting point is 01:51:50 kko is going to be really tight in its ending i think it'll have ramifications there will be consequences but i don't think um the psychology of the characters should affect their own books after the event and the event being a massive fighting tournament of 36 heroes orchestrated by a time traveling team known as the quantum quorum yeah uh doomsday comes back and he's a timekeeper and all the villains have to fight each other. Oh, cool. Robert Downey Jr.?
Starting point is 01:52:17 Yeah. Sweet. As a Mexican man in the Jamie Fox Whiteface movie. All right, Chip Crisp. Thank you. Thank you for your contribution to the Convo.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Stephen is back. I'm here, Stephen. There was a rumor for Pinhead to appear at the end of Ferretti versus Jason. That's cool. Which would have been epic. Yeah, to set up a sequel with Hellraiser versus Freddy versus Jason, which would have been epic.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Pinhead, I think, makes more sense as someone who doesn't know the Hellraiser franchise, but it's called Hellraiser. It makes more sense considering the lore with Freddie and Jason. I could see how more naturally weaves in. I just don't feel like it could be anywhere near as fun or as appealing, honestly. I don't know. I think people would mainly opt for Ash Williams over Pinhead. I think Ash gives you way more to work with. There's more dynamics. Yeah, because like if you add Michael, you just have another silent hulking guy.
Starting point is 01:53:21 And if you add Pinhead, like he's the lord of an otherworldly realm. Like, Freddy might be able to, I think you could make a fun office comedy where like Pinhead's trying to get shit done and then Freddy is annoying him the whole day. I could, yeah. That is more of the speech. I think that one would actually be a Freddie and Jason versus Pinhead. I guess so. It's like the nature of Pinhead doesn't, to me, really lend itself to this kind of movie if you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You don't know that. I, you know, there are a lot of Hellraiser sequels I have not seen, so. Yeah, and I've seen none of the Hellraiser. Watch the first two. I've just seen enough videos and other people talk about Hellraiser. It's like Lord of the Flies. The O.G Hellraiser is like out of every classic 80s horror movie franchise, it is the one that lives up to the, like, what you thought it was going to be in terms of, like, being dark and twisted and, gruesome.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Never seen any Hellraiser. Oh, Coy, those are your type of movies. Oh, yeah, it sounds like. You should also watch the Terrifier movies, too. Yeah, Tara had a great time sitting out in the hallway, staring in the middle distance to recover. It's a big act.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Every time I walked in, Tara was actively recovering from Terrified. She just wanted attention. It worked. I was worried for her. Yeah. And Tara will do anything to get attention. Terrell will do anything for a buck.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Tara will do anything to be like, oh, look at me. My car broke down. She slashed her own tires. Yeah. Oh, I keep giving myself COVID. sociopath, that terror. Just huffing people on the street.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Just reading that air in. All righty. After that, we have, oh, the laws that made us with a very generous. Whamoff! Very generous contribution. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, delightful human. Chris says, when I was a little boy, my grandfather bought me a cute little toy.
Starting point is 01:55:04 When I was a little bitty boy. When I was a little bitty boy, my grandmother bought me a cute little. cute little toy. Do you know what that's from? Nope. Hellraiser? That is, yeah. You don't want to know what kind of toy that was.
Starting point is 01:55:18 That is from a Chuck Berry song. Oh, yeah. It's called my dingling. My dingling. My dingling. We're back to Hellraiser. Sounds like I'm making a joke, but I believe that. It's a French is Chuck Barry.
Starting point is 01:55:34 All right. Chuck Barry's song called my dingling. All right. Chuck Berry is a known. This is a known Yeah, a feral cat. Hey, he deserves a comeback. He deserves it.
Starting point is 01:55:47 He should do the score for a baby driver, too. Yeah. Now, there's the crossover. Get him to the Greek baby driver. Get the baby to the creek. He needs some advice from Russell Brand. Dan V's back. That is the future where we get all the
Starting point is 01:56:05 cancel people. It's like cancel verse. Adam Sandler's grownups for assholes just like put all the people Everyone let's go to Hawaii And make a movie about going to the park That'll be so funny Make like a Hollywood suicide squad Where you have some kind of like
Starting point is 01:56:21 ensemble picture of deplorable people That you need like only actors We hate to play Just douchebags go to NRA convention They're all just like hanging out At like a strip ball It's like you know Hell with Jeffrey Dahmer Ted Buddy
Starting point is 01:56:33 And it'll be the widest audience With everyone there being like Look I'm not racist I brought my minority friendly I'm not racist, but I'm pretty glad these whites are making movies again. Look, I got a brown-looking guy here. I don't know what brown he is, but I got my friend here. So he makes up for a lot of races today.
Starting point is 01:56:52 He's with me, right? Tell him you're with me. Tell him you're with me. I hired him. He works with me, so I'm not racist. All right, Dan V-900's back. It's same step. My ding-o-lang, thank you so much laws that made us for spam. Oh, my God, I forgot.
Starting point is 01:57:08 I made all this shit about trying to find your Instagram. Then you finally sent me a message. I didn't reply. I'm so sorry. Wow. Wow. I just remember right now. I could have waited until after her and said that.
Starting point is 01:57:19 It's okay. I say I don't air to keep myself accountable. It's all right. Because we're going to move on to Dan V. Part 2. I only respond to what is pertinent at this moment in time. It's a problem I have to. It's a problem that everyone has with the.
Starting point is 01:57:33 76 missed text messages. Yes. I too have issues with this. John's my favorite still respond in bundles. He'll get back to you with the last five messages he sent him and I'm always grateful.
Starting point is 01:57:45 I have a fixation like that where I'm like I gotta talk about I got to do everything. All right. Anyway, Dan Vee, here we go. I want my nice guy's sequel. That's one of my list. The Benioff and Weiss Star Wars
Starting point is 01:57:59 Knights of the Old Republic trilogy is something I wanted just to get something from the Knights of the Old Republic era. But the game was wrong Zend. then alien by blom camp wiping out three on where weaver and bean would have done it that is the conclusion of the comment well the blom cam one I really thought the blom camp one was about to get wasn't it like it was actually about to happen yeah and like so morning weaver was talking about publicly yeah nice guys too that's just a shame like it's just a crime it's a shame for
Starting point is 01:58:36 Shane. Yeah, it's just a shame, black. It's never going to come, though. I don't think it actually grew enough in it's like, it's definitely got more popular. It's the film bro movie to talk about getting a sequel. That doesn't equal the populace. You said that you said the right words because, yeah, it's grown in the film community a lot, but
Starting point is 01:58:54 I don't, for what it costs to put that kind of film together. And it's so good. And then like his most recent movie is straight to DVD or straight to streaming. So like that doesn't bode well for anything happening. The nice guys is a great. it's incredible one of my favorite comedy's ever made easily so good i'm with you
Starting point is 01:59:09 i like it more than kiss kiss kiss bang bang coy that's okay and heat is has unnecessary dramatic story lines that weigh down the pacing of the movie we both like the matrix Greg it's okay we've got an anchor do we
Starting point is 01:59:24 do we maybe my opinion's changed we do the rewatch you just shit on it the whole time quick which matrix is the best does he resurrection no kung fu is there a Spoon. Wow. He just doesn't even to learn fucking Mary Sue over here. It's a goddamn little
Starting point is 01:59:41 typing. Gary Sue plugs himself into the Matrix. Mr. Anti-AI over here is all in support of a guy getting a I'd be the one if I could download all knowledge to be able to my brain. Kung Fu prompted the whole time and you're like, oh, I hate AI. Alex is smart to stop us.
Starting point is 01:59:58 Anyway, what's next? All right. Next up we got X, we got, we got DeMani back again. X-Men 3 before Brian left for Superman Returns. Oh, what was that movie going to be? It was going to be natural disasters happening. Revealed to be Gene and the X-Men.
Starting point is 02:00:16 No. What? Revealed to be Gene. And the X-Men fight her. And eventually she decides to leave Earth after regaining control. Emma Frost was a villain, too. No cute storyline. We were robbed.
Starting point is 02:00:30 A true Phoenix movie, which they set up with X-Men 2, and going to space and setting up the cosmic side of x-men i had such a special opportunity lost um and i and i think those first two x-men are really special so uh it it is tarnished by how that i feel like the x-men franchise more than most is like so many peaks in valleys because i think of it strongly and positively but it did spawn x-men three x-men origins wolverine uh i liked new mutants more than most but a lot of people don't like it but it definitely had like a lot of highs and lows and i think x-p3 is a low-low It's like crossroads with itself
Starting point is 02:01:04 Yeah it doesn't know what it wants to be So it tries to be everything Yeah I think they got the worst person to do it Yeah I don't think Brett Ratton This is before he was even cancelled He just he had never done anything That remotely speaks to the sensibilities
Starting point is 02:01:17 Of X-Men Right It is like no real voice to it It is like getting a guy who's going Yeah they got powers right Action comic action movie Yeah It is not something that
Starting point is 02:01:27 He's never done anything That remotely Hinted at having thematic understanding of what X-Men really was about. I don't know why he was a replacement. It was just because he was popular. Yeah, I think he was just big at the time.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Maybe I had an overall deal with Fox. Yeah, it was a terrible replacement choice. Because I can understand Brian Singer not coming back, but there were other options. Like Wolfgang Peterson. He would have been great. George Miller. They were ready.
Starting point is 02:01:51 They wanted it. Yeah. But yeah. Damn. That would have been all right. We actually got a couple more stream labs in here. Oh, damn. I'm going to close them out.
Starting point is 02:01:59 All right. We got KG This one, you guys are going to have fun with Speaking of rap Ready? Samma Duma Duma You heard the man Speaking of rap
Starting point is 02:02:12 Could y'all give us your top five rappers of all time? Jesus Eminem Marshall Mathers Slim Shady The guy from 8 Mile B Rabbit And McElmore And oh rap boy
Starting point is 02:02:25 Oh no there you go Macalmore Who's or his His. Let's see. KG says, mine goes five, Wayne, four, Lupe Fiasco, three, Andre 3, Andre 3,000, two, Kendrick Lamar, one, Eminem. Oh, good. So Kendrick is looking to usurp with the current run. No. No. Uh, I don't see myself in Kendrick.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Uh, man, this is hard. Tupac's number one for me, confidently. M&M's number two for me. But then it gets hard. Kendrick, I think, has become number three for me. So Tupac, Eminem, Kendrick. Four, I don't know if it counts, but Wu-Tang, like, as an entity, as a movement,
Starting point is 02:03:18 and, like, their impact. If I've got to pick one member, I'd say Method Man, but I'm going Wu-Tang as an entity for four. And then five, only got one left. I'm going to go... You know, I don't like party rappers. Wow. Some people are in the chat
Starting point is 02:03:38 are going to pile you for one. Yeah, and there's a big pile. I think Wayne is one of the best freestallers because he doesn't write down his stuff, but I don't re-listen often. I think for enjoyment, like if it was a party rapper, I'd say Donald Glover is a better party rapper than Biggie, but I don't want to have Donald as my fifth.
Starting point is 02:03:56 I think fifth, either Noss or the game. game. The game's my favorite West Coast rapper since Tupac, but I'm a West Coast bias. Nassir,
Starting point is 02:04:04 I think is genius. I think Nause is incredible. Buster Rhymes honorable mention. So yeah, one of those. Those four count
Starting point is 02:04:13 and five is a mixed bag. All right. And B. Rabbit. Not bad, and B rabbit. John Sina. John Sina, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:21 He's actually platinum. The Bears, when they did the touchdown boogie. Yeah, one of the best. Yeah. Top five rappers.
Starting point is 02:04:29 This is actually the hardest question I've ever been asked That was a real struggle This is a very hard question I was trying to think Of what Mike could be I came on my answers pretty fast You did
Starting point is 02:04:36 You were ready You've thought about it clearly Yeah You were at the ready I was gonna say I was gonna say Asop rock killer Mike LP little Sims
Starting point is 02:04:45 Kendrick I guess We'll go there I like that It's very John list It's very John list All right And we have the laws Pretentious answers
Starting point is 02:04:53 There's him and him She easy Top 5G easy Okay Anyway The Laws that made us Back in action No way
Starting point is 02:05:04 This is good I just read about What Chuck Berry I just read about Chuck Barry I had no idea My bad I will limit my choices No dude you're good
Starting point is 02:05:15 You can still quote Chuck Barry All right It's he's fine He's dead He did Johnny be good He did Johnny be good He's a part of rock He's the original
Starting point is 02:05:25 Separate the Art from the others He likes half of rock history and... No, no. All those guys are separated. All of them are now. It's been today's theme. We thought today's about sequels. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Musicians are way more separate art from the artist than 90% of actors and actresses. Especially actresses. Most actresses aren't problematic. That's true. Unless you're Amber Turd. Oh! Ah! Or Blake Lively.
Starting point is 02:05:50 God. Yeah, she did something. Or, yeah, Blake Turd. Yeah, Blake Turdly. yeah fucking bitch I hate her hey don't worry Johnny Deft's starring in a new
Starting point is 02:06:03 Christmas Carol adaptation so everything is fine oh hey hell yeah and yeah we can all forget that that was a horrible horrible situation anyway we want to get the Super Chats anyone excited for some Super Chats
Starting point is 02:06:19 I am I think we're making a good time or can we keep talking about Johnny Depp and Andrew Chris Wammoth baby thank you for the Super generous chat, stream labs, man. Super wham-off. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 02:06:29 We're going to start at the top. I got this. All right, you got it? No, no, no. I'm just here to listen. All right. Clayton, what's up, buddy? That's up, Clayton.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Clayton has this to say. Uh-huh. Where did y'all stream the Dark Night IMAX ratio? It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a blue race. And it's, and it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's. it took a while to find. I mean, like, come on. I got you the right,
Starting point is 02:06:58 I got you the right, do I really need to tell you how we streamed it. Like, come on. Hooked up my Blu-ray player to the computer. ExpressVPN is a really nifty thing to have on the end. All right. It's out there. Can, uh,
Starting point is 02:07:16 help change your geographical location for certain situations when you are hunting down, a certain file. That took us so long that that was a long shoot day. Yeah. Worth it though. Worth it.
Starting point is 02:07:30 My God. I got you the right file. I knew there was a brotherhood. It took a few years. But two weeks ago, I realized. Oh yeah. You treasure this IMAX quality on the television as much as I did. I was so upset, dude.
Starting point is 02:07:47 We like, it was so angry immediately. It's not the real version. No, this isn't the movie. Why am I watching? It's like a pan and scan from the 90s when they'd like, don't give me the shit. But no, legit. The Blu-ray has the 4K automatically.
Starting point is 02:08:00 And that's how it is. That's the movie. It's how it should be. You can't stream it. Yeah. You can plug in your Blu-ray player. Yeah, this is what we do. We have a blue-ray player here.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Right, right, right, we're getting in the TV. Watch it. All right. Thank you, Clayton, Crook, and I hope that was helpful. My Unk. Hey, buddy. You're here every week. What's up, Myonk?
Starting point is 02:08:21 All right. Hey, Greg. Boy, what's your reaction to the Wonder Man trailer? Are you happy with the meta twist? With the meta twist where Simon is auditioning to play Wonder Man? Were you happy about that? Yeah, it's like the studio, but late. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I think they shot it first. I know. That's why they decided to release it because the studio is doing so well. We got one. We got one of those. We don't need to pave the way. We just need a follow. I actually watch the trailer because, yeah,
Starting point is 02:08:52 guys in it so I was already in I have it in the trailer either okay yeah so I mean I know I was gonna watch it and Yaya Abdul Mateen the second is one of my favorite actors working so like I heard they're releasing all of it at once are they so I heard it's not confirmed yet but and they moved it to January right they moved it to January supposedly because that's how well it did during Wanda vision time I'm so happy they moved it there's so much December's insane yeah I mean they also know they got fucking like stranger things and fallout don't compete with the biggest month of the year they're gonna they are going to get like No one's going to talk about Wonder Man.
Starting point is 02:09:23 And so much of the marking at Marvel is the conversations. It was very smart from like a YouTube perspective. Yeah. Yeah. No, for like zeitgeist perspective. Like that's how you fuel the conversation though. And I think it would have gotten drowned out altogether. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:09:37 I'm really excited for the show so I didn't watch the trailer because I don't need hype. I think Yaya is one of the most interesting people I've had conversations about art with. So him in the Marvel universe has me excited. I hope it does well because, you know, Marvel TV has. done as well and I really hope they don't dump it one week but I'm excited to do the way and I'm there so I didn't need the trailer heck yeah gang
Starting point is 02:10:00 I still need to watch the trailer yeah let's do this also uh yeah cool yeah agreed hitting the time all right next up we got Jose don't worry about it yo looking good coy
Starting point is 02:10:16 Greg when do we get to see the long walk wreck you wreck you Eugene. Where's my compliment? This is why I want to get a pain body. You look good.
Starting point is 02:10:27 When are you doing more work? When are you going to cry for me, baby? Hey, yeah, watch the torture. Oh, pussycat. Come on. Look better with some tears in your face. Oh. I like that compliment for Greg.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Good. Good. Good. Very good, Charlie. Now he feels better. Thank you, Charlie. Charlie is always riding for you in the chat. That's right.
Starting point is 02:10:52 I hope you ride for me when I'm being bodied. I think you'd like to. Wait, waiting on it. You think this compliment gives you power over? I was born in the protein, molded by it. I didn't taste carbs until I was a man. The long walk, I don't know if we're going to do that anytime soon, because not many people watched it.
Starting point is 02:11:16 I don't want to prioritize something that a lot of people are interested in right now because I'm a little tired, honestly. That's fair. That's fair. I liked it. And we're also trying, I had to, I also reconfigure the schedule to take down some uploads. So, like, trying to do a little less. And we also have to prepare for the influx of we don't know what stranger things is going to be like.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Like, we don't know when we're going to get screeners. We don't know for sure we cannot do a four-person group thing. So then when Tara and Andrew eventually shoot that, that's going to fuck the upload schedule up to some more. And then they also release VODs a lot. lot earlier now like predator badlands pot coming out earlier wicker two might come out earlier as opposed to the normal theatrical windows so we just don't know and that's why i'm like we have to kind of just stick to some real big priorities right now because we don't know what's going to happen anyway but thank you for your interest in me crying some more thank you jose very much i appreciate
Starting point is 02:12:14 i haven't cried on camera in a while trying to not make a trying not to be a fucking pussy anymore That's why I'm going to get a bane body So when I cry I'm just making moisture For my muscles And all you kids That's the creatine Secreating for my life
Starting point is 02:12:31 And all you kids out there Who feel free to express your emotions Because I have Will knock you off Yeah It's only periodically And only when approved by the audience Also I'm adding MF Doom
Starting point is 02:12:45 To my top five Hell yeah All right Anyway We got to move on We got Camp Fire I'm here With a double whammy
Starting point is 02:12:55 Yeah double whammy All right Hey Greg and Coy Just want to say a great job To you guys and the gang Are you reading the chat? Coy Oh you are I was saying
Starting point is 02:13:08 You're not engaging with me Coy Are you giggling about Coy You have too much fun over here I'll look at the chat No I'm here Greg I'm engaged Stop having fun All right
Starting point is 02:13:17 Hey Greg and Coy Just want to say great job you guys and the gang I don't they deserve the best example of it fans since 2021 and I will continue to be past this comment
Starting point is 02:13:27 John's been talking this whole time we don't have headphones so we can talk over you more we don't hear it we don't hear it as much the funny is that I hear you guys so loud and clear
Starting point is 02:13:39 so then Alex will give me a note off screen I have no one's also funny is John is only about five feet away but I'm still talking to Greg you guys it's good it's good Hey, hey, I've been a fan, and great job to you guys in the gang since 2021.
Starting point is 02:13:54 I will stand on this that Andrew Garfield deserves the third of Spider-Man movie. Would you like to see that still? And how would you write the story for it if it was your guy's movie? I wrote it earlier. Coy pitched a very crazy version that only serves Tom Holland's storyline more than anything else. It grows the two of them in a way that is guaranteed to make money. and moves past and through No Way Home's ending. You think they should acknowledge No Way Home?
Starting point is 02:14:24 Yes. Like past the ending of their movies? Yes. It happened. I don't know. No Way Home happened. Why would you not acknowledge a movie that happened? I mean, it made a billion dollars.
Starting point is 02:14:37 I mean, when you start the movie, I understand acknowledging it. But at the end of the movie, I feel like we should just not concern ourselves with the multiverse. They're not going to get their own new movies without the Tom Holland tie in. I know. So why would you not have that open the film, have them go back in the universes, have adventures we've always wanted to see, and then at the end give us a sinister six? Look, I'm going to totally pivot this question. Okay. To say Sadie Sink is, I think, a truly under-recognized talent.
Starting point is 02:15:05 I am so worried she's not going to be used well in a brand new day. I'm very confident in that film, but I'm very worried that we want, I hope she's a big enough character for her talent. I think I used to be Hopper was my second favorite character but I'm pretty confident it is her character who's your favorite character
Starting point is 02:15:24 you know that's the most cliche answer you can give 11 oh Joe Kerry is my favorite character Steve's hair Steve's my favorite character Joe Kerry's pretty great so yeah he's my comfortable number one and I think Hopper's my number two
Starting point is 02:15:36 who's your three Joyce no one says Joyce It might be Sadie Sink Oh yeah I think she's incredible I think she's not number three Yeah
Starting point is 02:15:52 And the whale I felt like she didn't get enough credit For her performance in the whale I haven't seen the whale She's so good She's so good Hell yeah The whale
Starting point is 02:16:01 I think sometimes Because she's part of the Stranger Things Young actors That she's kind of just lumped in there Is one of them But no I think she's a total I think there's a reason why They've like pivoted season five
Starting point is 02:16:12 Yeah We should really, like, hyper-magnifier for a reason. I think what's her name, the other young red-headed actress from It is also incredible. Yeah, she, like, kind of vanished for a while. Yeah, she was in, well, the fucking, it was supposed to be a franchise starter with Dungeons and Dragons. She didn't that? Yeah, she's like the elfling. All I remember is Chris Pine.
Starting point is 02:16:32 I mean, he's very attracted. I remember liking that movie. Movies so good. Justice for Sophia Lillis. That should get a fucking sequel. That should get a sequel. Dungeons and Dragon should get a sequel. It's so franchise.
Starting point is 02:16:42 And it started so well. I don't know if it grew up. Again, but it's part of this new era of movies that just don't grow popularity. There's so amazing. There's so much coming out. There's no time for it to become pop culture zeitguess. Exactly. There's too much.
Starting point is 02:16:53 Let me see what our reaction got in views. Seven. Seven views. I'll read the next question. Okay, so, so, all right. Blind waves got four. Do this. Immediately don't, though.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Look, blind waves got 425,000 views. Ours got 247,000 views. I'm going to kill you. myself now knowing we got half blind wave no I'm saying like that is a and blind wave
Starting point is 02:17:19 when it comes to specific like the the more pure geekdom side I think blind waves a lot more associated in this I assume it's a big testament like we're not known
Starting point is 02:17:28 for fucking dungeons and dragons here and we got 250K views that's a pretty big and the movie's great we should play on camera and like yeah everyone's doing that's
Starting point is 02:17:37 the reason it got that many views is because people love that movie not because of us is because they love that movie that they wanted to watch us love that movie. Yeah, exactly. Well, all right, gang. Thank you for the love.
Starting point is 02:17:48 Campfire's back. Also, is it possible for the gang to react to We Live in Time? No. Would love to see it. No. John Roxy, John Andrew, or Roxy.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Oh, I don't have to mean it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love to see John and Andrew or Roxy reaction to it or anyone who hasn't seen it yet. So actually, that could include you if you haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 02:18:11 I don't want to. I want to see it yet? Probably not ever. What is this movie? Andrew Garfield. It's like a sci-fi drama, isn't it? Is it so a Julia Roberts? Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:18:22 This is the... Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh. This is, yes, an up-and-coming chef. Oh, where they do it? Yeah, they do it. Oh, yeah, I want to react to that. Yeah, that's a good...
Starting point is 02:18:31 And that horse from the poster. Maybe down the road, I'll react to it. After unusual an encounter... It's specifically said, and anyone else. I don't know if you guys heard this, but Alex just said they specifically they didn't say they want to see you react to it
Starting point is 02:18:45 parenthesis not you're not as significant due to this process as you think you are like you take that vacation Greg not Greg no homers
Starting point is 02:18:55 no who doesn't live in time Greg Alba you don't live in my timeline at least yeah a talented we need to get
Starting point is 02:19:03 Alex and Mike now divorce fall in love just for sass yeah dude well what's next next
Starting point is 02:19:11 on here, man. We got it. But that's a maybe, down the road, perhaps. I added it to the list. Hell yeah. Kenya, King is next. I just like to say no, it is not set expectations, and I don't want to fight you. Or you just a green light of your shit and take off the schedule. No, maybe. Long walk could be next week.
Starting point is 02:19:31 Could be 10 years from now. Perhaps. Dude, Stanley Yelna. Consideration. Yep. Take your money now. All right. Kenya King.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Harry Styles. sure I watched the Blade 2 and thank you Kenya for chiming in I watched the Blade 2 reaction on this channel what DC you character or project would you want Guillermo del Toro to do his practical effects work it's not DC I've always opted for
Starting point is 02:20:01 him doing a standalone Wolverine versus Hulk Hulk the practical effects that's been my dream of his my dream for him I should say In terms of a DC character It has to be a monster It's got to be like swamping It's got to be like swamping or Solomon Grundy or Grundy
Starting point is 02:20:22 Grundy mentioned grondy mentioned Gruddy mentioned It would be funny if he did the If he did the live action like Frankenstein Brian creature commandos I got a I mean it's kind of a weird one But I think he'd do a good hellblazer Like a good John Constantine
Starting point is 02:20:39 Like the magic and Mrs. I think you would do an amazing John Concenton. Yeah, yeah. So that's, I think that I'd love to see his world building for Constantine. He would do an amazing job with that. So I asked my answer. He's already like Constantine's cousin. Yeah. His Mexican cousin. I mean, obviously. Robert Tending Jr.
Starting point is 02:20:56 It'd probably be Swamp thing's the more obvious one. It is the most, but I'm really excited for Mangold to do it. Mangold's doing Swamp Thing. Yeah, I know, but you're more excited for, I'd be more excited for Deltore to do it. I would be too. Oh, really? I feel like Mangold, like, he's so passionate. He was yelling, like, the day that they announced the DCU, he was like, let me in.
Starting point is 02:21:13 Most underrated mangle movie, go. Underrated? 3.10 to Yuma. Good job. That's a good choice. We could stay friends. Stay friends, brother. Okay, good.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Check it in, brotherhood. I'm X310 to Yuma. It was so fucking good. It, like, really is. Mine is, uh, my personal one's identity. Oh, really? I actually. With Paquent in it.
Starting point is 02:21:32 I actually expected a different answer. The guy that plays Paw Kent was the killer in identity. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was thinking of Kevin Costner. That's my pawkin. I'm surprised you didn't mention it. Not my pocket.
Starting point is 02:21:43 Hashtag Hollywood Pawkin. I'm surprised you didn't recommend name a different movie by this guy. James Mangled? Yeah. There's another movie. Walk the line is not underrated. It's not Walk the line.
Starting point is 02:21:55 The one I'm in? There's one I know you like of his that I have a couple other friends who think is underrated too. I did stunts on a James Mangol movie. What James Mangel movie has James, Night and Day? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:05 Yeah, that's when I did stunts on. That's a good one. I got kicked in the chest by Tom Cruise. What? in the cafe scene when they like come and get Cameron Diaz out I haven't seen night and day I got kicked in the chest by Tom Cruise
Starting point is 02:22:15 He's spitting my mouth Did he? I don't know what you do on weekends Greg Sometimes you gotta live Hey if Tom Cruise is spitting your mouth He said it with a dude's back Yeah man I got no job Literally I said it with the enthusiasm
Starting point is 02:22:28 I got to my own stunts You can spit my mouth Well anyway Now you got 10,000 more Thaitans Every spit Oh We got that on live We got that
Starting point is 02:22:38 I thought Tom Cruise Matt. Tom Cruise, man. Tom Cruise. Oh, I spit in his mouth. Oh, yeah. Eyes by shut, too. That's the sequel. Tom Cruise spit it on mouth. We got you covered. I had to bend down for him to do it, but he did. Yeah, it was worth it. Oh, my. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 02:22:54 Z short. Jayden Stevens. We're at the end of the stream. Welcome to this point in the stream. We're in the end game now. Hey, guys. Love the channel. Just wanted to show some love watching you guys at work. Keep up the great work.
Starting point is 02:23:08 thank you. We could riff on this for a minute and a half. Yeah. Yeah, you know, we think pretty highly of ourselves. Yeah. We think whatever you're doing for work, not as important as what we're doing for work. Clearly, because we wouldn't be able to fucking fuck off and listen to something else while we're doing this. I would love to listen to a podcast while I'm
Starting point is 02:23:26 doing a podcast. Instead, I got to be engaged. You got to stay focused at all times. Here we are. Talking about movies for a living. We did it. We did it. We did it. Moving right along.
Starting point is 02:23:40 We did the minute and a half. Thank you, Jason Stevens. Oh, that was good timing. Good time. All right. We got Dakota Jones. Hey, buddy. Effects up next.
Starting point is 02:23:52 All right. Another regular customer here. George Miller's Justice League would have been. That is it? That's all he says. I agree with him. You know it would have been nuts if they put Michael Keaton in there. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 02:24:05 Let me see if I got time to do just as an opportunity. opportunity to talk about the original Batman 3 plan. Original Batman 3 plan, Michael Keenan was going to return against Scarecrow, and he was reportedly eyeing Nicholas Cage, whose fear toxin triggers visions. Okay, that one was also going to be another one
Starting point is 02:24:22 to trigger visions of, oh, Joker, penguin, and catwoman. Okay, no, this is wrong information. Oh, no, I'm reading this. I was reading this. I was, I was like, this is wrong. I got this wrong. I don't know what the original plans are, but he is.
Starting point is 02:24:38 We want to see it. He definitely was making an original Batman 3 at one point, and then he got slowly pushed out. And I wrote down the wrong information. I have copied and pasted over the information for the Schumacher one into this paragraph. RIP, Marlon Wayans, Robin, and freaking Billy D. Williams. Two-face. We talked about that a lot. Oh, yeah, fucking Harvey Dund would start to be in it.
Starting point is 02:25:03 Yeah. It's right. That's where Batman 8. What am I talking about? Of course, I read the comic, the M8 comic is all inspired by Tim Burton's original plan, which was going to have Marlon Wayans as Robin. He still gets residuals. He still gets residuals for that.
Starting point is 02:25:18 To this day, Marlon Wayans gets paid for that Robin Rolls. Oh, yeah, and the 89 comic, they explored, like, the tougher neighborhoods of the lower class where, with the minorities where Bruce Wayne had never ventured off into. Yeah, the narrows is, like, really expanded. Yeah, and they show Harvey Dent. they lean into the fact that he's actually black. And we're going to end it there. Black.
Starting point is 02:25:42 You're going to see. Well, hold. Rang the black alarm. All right. Don't talk about that. That's a real racist. You're going to get really mad. You're mentioning race right now.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Whoa. Somebody earlier in the chat, when you guys were talking about Tarantino, Luke Cades, they were like, yeah, Luke Cabe featuring 200 uses of the N-word. I cannot imagine Tarantino being like, I'm going to make a black exploitation superhero film, but it not just being. the N-word movie. Like, that would have been insane. My dream would be
Starting point is 02:26:09 Tarantino writes and Spike Lee directs. People were saying Spikeley Luke Hage in the comments. Oh, actually, that would be sick. But Tarantino Spikely hate each other. They've got it. It's had some very public feuds. This is the perfect place to be.
Starting point is 02:26:23 It all boils down to the same thing. I want to say the N-word. And it gets mad. No, you can't say that. Like, yeah. No artistic integrity and freedom. They should unite over a matter. It's pretty much you're just saying you want to say the other.
Starting point is 02:26:39 We wouldn't be talking about this if you didn't really seem to like doing that. Daniel Son is next. Daniel Son says, so I don't know why people saying if Paramount buys WB, they have to reboot. No, they don't. Even if James Gunn is demoted or gets laid off, he hasn't established a villain or half the Justice League. I think if Paramount buys Warner Brothers, that would be really good for everyone.
Starting point is 02:27:11 Yeah, I think it should be one studio. Like, all of them just one. Oh, my gosh. There's so much money on my streaming service. And that way we just got to only email one person. It's on one channel. That way, where there's a giant oversight where it's just like no real competition or creativity. Yeah, you just hit up a person.
Starting point is 02:27:28 Yeah. And their favorites get to work. That would be cool, man. Yeah, we just call it the studio. excellent no one really know there's a lot of people doing videos on this it's insanely how dumb those videos are
Starting point is 02:27:43 nobody knows shit no nobody knows what's going to it's been very funny to watch people flail and I think there's one thing I've learned in a lot of the things over the years is that even certain reputable newspaper outlets or media outlets they sometimes bullshit too man well they I think people
Starting point is 02:27:59 see enough articles from idiots that they're like well it's a new story and then they jump on it and then it becomes a new story because enough people started talking about it. Like, there are people with active grudges against Warner Brothers that are like,
Starting point is 02:28:10 I'm going to say the thing. And then real news outlets like, oh, everybody's making money off clicks. Warner Brothers does get tossed around, oh, huh?
Starting point is 02:28:16 It's literally the most, like this year's the best year WB's had in so long. It's like Alex had a frat party. Yeah. The short sleeves, man.
Starting point is 02:28:28 HR. She is HR. Just to see how far we can push the HR limit. I'd love like to report. Or my boss
Starting point is 02:28:37 to HR I have a confession to make all right It's just Alex on hold with herself Aaron Coval
Starting point is 02:28:46 thank you for chiming in Aaron Aaron says Hey guys When I first saw Dark Night Rises When I was 12
Starting point is 02:28:54 I've always seen Tom Hardy's Bain as an unintentional Adaptation of Ubu rather than Bain That's an
Starting point is 02:29:02 interesting idea I've never thought of it that way but I like that concept I definitely think Tom Hardy just had a really strong vision for what Bain as a strong man would be like his inspiration was so strong man I could see
Starting point is 02:29:17 how you were inspired by that but I think it was a very conscious choice that shaped it but I like this take you know what I don't like last night when I was looking at Tom Hardy body stuff sure I decided to go
Starting point is 02:29:32 because you had mentioned to me how he said he was inspired by Bartley Gorman for the voice. Yes. So then I listened to a Bartley Gorman video. Sure. That sounds nothing like bad. Nothing like made. I'm like what the fuck is Tom Hardy talking? Tom Hardy also, if you see Locke the
Starting point is 02:29:47 single can't like the single actor movie he said that he was hanging out with this Welsh guy and he was like I really wanted to take his voice of a blah and then like a year later he found out that guy wasn't Welsh so like Tom Hardy'll just be like I'm gonna do this thing. I don't think he has a good ear. Yeah I think he
Starting point is 02:30:03 He's got a great... Matt, he's got a good mouth, but what he's hearing is not... I'm like, this guy just sounds like a British dude. Yeah. Who's fucking Bainzor British guy? Where did you get this idea? And then he's doing the wired auto-completely interview with Andy Circus. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:19 And he's answering, and he's like, then I heard Bartley Corbyn say this, and he does his Bain voice. I'm like, that's not him at all! What's the fucking... Then they played the clip of Bartley Gorman said, and I'm like, what are you talking about, man? You're pulling shit, Tom Hardy. Those traps are blocking your ears, boy. Yeah, he can't hear over the traps.
Starting point is 02:30:37 Sound gets in weird. I had a moment that you'll appreciate. Speaking of Tom Hardy's body, I was with a bunch of my friends at the used bookstore of the Iliad, and there's like a whole fitness section, and I'll wrap the story up quickly. And a book was sticking out, and it was just the bottom of the book and this bunch was sticking out. And someone was like, oh, we shook that one out. And I was like, oh, it's a Tom Hardy book. And it was just his lower two abs that I recognized from like a whole aisle away. And I was like, oh, I think I love him too much.
Starting point is 02:31:03 I think I'm way too aware of his body that I know his bottom two abs. Warrior, I think, is one of the best physiques of all time. Yeah. I think that's the dream for me. The ideal body would be Brad Pitt's abs, Tom Hardy's traps, Halle Berry's boobs. I'm going to go, I'm going to go Ryan Reynolds' abs in Amdeville Horror, Tom Hardy's traps, Brad picks in Troy.
Starting point is 02:31:28 Oh, nice. Because they were like the right volume without being two. Which actor has good glute? Carl Weathers has great glutes Carl Weathers's glutes Yeah And Arnold's well proportioned at the time Cabs
Starting point is 02:31:44 Yeah great cabs His pecks were too big for me I don't think I'd fit in like doorways No Arnold eventually leaned out Yeah But if he did that now People would be like he's sick, he's dying Yeah
Starting point is 02:31:54 Real It's not safe He's not naturally massive He's fucking dying What's going on He's only 230 30 pounds. Hit to break it to you.
Starting point is 02:32:04 Arnold and Terminator 1 in Terminator 2 are very different physiques. 100%. That jacket's doing the work. All righty. I couldn't find a picture of Carl Weathers' glutes, so we're moving on.
Starting point is 02:32:15 Aaron Coval, thank you. We're moving to Dick, dude. Dick, dude. Duck dude. There's even a duck. John was also thinking about Tom Hardy's abs. Moving on to Dick dude.
Starting point is 02:32:31 Arnold's quad. and I got Carl Weathers' glutes and I got freaking Tom Marty's arms Picture of Cole Weather's ass All right moving on to Dick, dude I'm looking for this voice guy I don't know what's happening Rest in peace, Carl, we love you.
Starting point is 02:32:45 I like the duck in your profile pick here. On the topic of never made sequels As much as I like Tron Aries I really would have loved a direct sequel with Sam and Cora Have Ares be the bad guy And Tron saved from the sea of simulation in Legacy's grid
Starting point is 02:33:02 Look, I know Coy was like appalled by the Tron I give one negative review and the whole internet loses their minds I don't know It's like it's fucking Tron man I don't really give shit about this
Starting point is 02:33:19 I don't know who's going to be influenced by I feel like Petron's always kind of been a weird AI propaganda thing in a certain way It was about art made by humans the grid was a human construct that was the beauty of it it was artistry and computers and i think perhaps trononel legacy is a cautionary tale about what a i can go too far yeah and then trinaries is just
Starting point is 02:33:43 like and it went too far trinaries is just like we lost the battle be like a pro sky net movie like what if i made terminator seven from sky net's pov i don't know man i don't know Jared Leto has some crazy skincare routine That man is Pickled He does He does look so young
Starting point is 02:34:07 It's crazy I thought he's in his 50s Yeah Like deep 50s He looks like creepy young He looks like 30 something Yeah Like when people are like
Starting point is 02:34:16 Oh he's hanging out with young people And girls I'm like What's weird about that And I find out he's like 50s I'm like oh yeah It's a little weird Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 02:34:23 It's like a grandpa But decaprio is a talent we'd like, so it's okay. Yeah, no, no, no, no, different ages, 25 versus 27. That all depends on the talent. It's true. As long as he's talented. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:35 And he's aging, which we, you know, appreciate it. But he still bangs 18-year-olds. You know, but it looks older every year. The mark of an American man. That's the dick dude. If I could have Ryan Reynolds' ass, DiCaprio's taste. Leigh of DiCaprio's bank account. Dirk Digglers
Starting point is 02:34:57 Dicker's Dicto Degraud's standards for a win Mark Wahlberg and Boogie Nights All right, we got Nick Alexander Nick can't We got Dick D'Alexander
Starting point is 02:35:12 I am motherfucking tired of these motherfucking rumors regarding movies just wait for the trailer or casting announcements Your rule. What are we referring? I don't know what he's talking about.
Starting point is 02:35:26 We were talking about movies that are made. I think just a general upset at rumors. All right. I too am upset at rumors sometimes. Oh, probably because it was inspired by the Kylo Ren story. Yeah, but I don't think that's a rumor. Both the director and actor said it was. There's no more mystique to Hollywood, man.
Starting point is 02:35:44 We're not helping, but yeah, there's no more mystique to Hollywood. I was wondering if that was some text, but it is. kind of weird. Now you hear about all these, like no one was upset about this Kylo Red movie not being made until one person opened his mouth. And suddenly it's like, I want that. Now I'm mad
Starting point is 02:36:04 that I don't have it. I think the show business side business won, but I think that's everything in late stage capitalism. Like McDonald's don't have like actual facades anymore. They're just gray slabs. I feel like the movie industry is the visual metaphor of like Starbucks and McDonald's
Starting point is 02:36:20 looking like slate. Totally. Totally. Like, we're just talking about the business side. Like, I saw these salt and vinegar chips at the store recently. Yeah. And I was like, fuck, it's the weak day. I can't have it. I was so mad. Then I was like, I didn't want these until I saw the bag.
Starting point is 02:36:37 Artistry. When I left, I was like, I haven't been craving. I no longer want them out of my sight. Fury that I'm not getting to happen. Show business. That's show business right now. It is. Where's my bag of salt
Starting point is 02:36:53 Minigers? I didn't know I wanted. All right. All right. Thank you. Dick D'Alexander. D'Alexandik. Dick Daryl. Here we go. I know these aren't the best you know curated parts of these
Starting point is 02:37:10 shows that we do. But they're usually my favorite. The chaos at the end. When we're just like... When I've broken mentally... When I have forgotten there's a camera and we are just talking. When there's a 20 minutes.
Starting point is 02:37:21 gap in the middle. We come back, shattered completely. Weirdly is my favorite part of these. It's the part I remember. When the least people are watching. You guys get exclusive content, the stuff that we don't know what we're saying. It's weirdly my favorite part. Sorry, John. Can't do this reaction. Aaron Coval, man after my own heart. Here we go. Aaron Coval says, I know this won't happen. But I personally think, personally think a Rob Zombie Needle drop for Jason Mamo's Lobo. would be great like the satanic rights of placula that's a good song pool i like that tune all right john who what rob zombie movie what dc character should rob zombie do an adaptation of lobo's too easy
Starting point is 02:38:07 and answered yeah it just is say um he's got to do some like southern he's got to take a character or make them some southern who's that oh what's that guy he's got a name he's he's like a dark evil guy but he has just like an actual guy name. He's in Constantine's stories. It's not like Nick Cruel or something like that. Not getting any closer with Nick Krull or dark guy with names. Hold on, okay, let's see. It's like a bad guy with like villainous.
Starting point is 02:38:38 He's got a name. He's named. What is this dude's freaking name? Oh my God. He, he, uh, he, I think it would have to be. It's not loose. The devil himself. Nergal?
Starting point is 02:38:54 No, it's a two component name. It's like an actual person's name, I want to say. It's not like a con... Papa Midnight. No. Antichrist.
Starting point is 02:39:05 I am trying. Mammon? I am just looking now. The British Royal Family. Yes, it's the British Royal Family. Rob Zombie's Guerrilla Grod would be pretty fun. Let's see. No, no.
Starting point is 02:39:19 None of these guys. What the hell? Come on. Maybe he's a Marvel guy I'm getting confused. Dude, I'd set you up for like the ultimate John question and you just... The ultimate John question? Yeah, it's hard. And you've given the ultimate John. I got to find
Starting point is 02:39:33 a free... Well, I'm like who in the DC universe Vandal Savage is who I'm trying to think of. There you go. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's a... I think it was a Batman villain. He's a porn star. Sure. Sure, sure. I guess I would go like, are there any Batman
Starting point is 02:39:48 or like DC characters who are like I don't know. This guy's like a friggin' boxer down on his look. That's what you think of Rob Zombie? Well, he was going to make Tyrannosaurus Rex after Devil's Rejects, which was like a movie about, like, it was like a road movie of a boxer who was like, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:09 I mean, Catman? Yes, Rob Zombie's Man. Just give me Rob Zombie. There it is. I'm like, who lends itself to being like scuzzed out in this universe? Oh, I said, there is a cat man. I was thinking a wild cat, my bad. Wildcat's a boxer.
Starting point is 02:40:24 Batman who laughs. A wildcat is the name of the basketball team in high school musical. Yes. Zach Ephron for Rob Zombies, Wildcat. Six minute game on. Etrigan. Etrigan. Etrigan.
Starting point is 02:40:37 We got to move. We got to move on. All right. Anyway, if you guys have any Rob Zombies, let me know. Got to get it together. Thunder Kiss 65, but also get a good. Give the ball. Give the ball.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Lobo needle drop. Captain Fernandez. The way we play tonight. I don't think it got past storyboards, but I would have enjoyed Neil Blumcamp's direct sequel to aliens. Fuck, I got to change the thumbnail. A lot of people are with us on that one. Yeah, I got to just put a generic xenomorph on there.
Starting point is 02:41:05 We're just putting those pre-vis images they released. No, it has to look real. Sigourney Weaver. Yeah, there's that one of Sigourney Weaver and Miguel Bean. Did Michael Bean die? No, he's still around making movies with his wife. Who died from? Michael was just on a podcast a couple months ago.
Starting point is 02:41:21 No, is someone died from Alien? Or can we just make it? Ian Holm died, and then they brought him back from the dead creepily. Michael Bean, we could still make that Neil Blancet movie. Okay. All right. Appreciate the support, though. Appreciate the support, though.
Starting point is 02:41:36 All right, moving along, which Alien movie should drop zombie direct. Nick Alexander, the Justice League script sounds a lot like what the OMA project trade paperback is, story that led to infinite crisis. I agree. I was thinking that actually. I think it would have probably been setting up infinite crisis. Like John and I did their crisis trilogy and OMAC is really hard to translate, so I don't know if they could have done it directly, but I was thinking the same.
Starting point is 02:42:04 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you. Moving right along. Clayton Crook, oh, I know the answer to this one. Have you all ever had a conversation with high top films? I have. That's pretty sick.
Starting point is 02:42:17 I love him. I've only talked to him on, on, like we've messaged back and forth. But I'm a big fan of his work, and I hope that his Jason Todd movie fucking takes off. I'm glad of all the support rallying behind him on that. And he's a very talented writer, very, very talented. Probably, yeah, top three video, like him, film, speak, and Cosmonopin art variety. Yeah, there's my jams. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:50 Him and Philips speak are pretty similar. Yeah. Also, I figured it out. Rob Zombie should direct. Phantom Stranger! He's got the song, it's right there. He's got the freaking song. Perfect. That'd be great. He'd do a good question, too.
Starting point is 02:43:03 I wasn't asked, but the question. Hey, anything in the Constantine realm or the question, I would love it. Beno. Beno, thank you. Beno. You do a good killer crock movie. It would be a good killer movie. Fuck you, I'm a fucking crocodile out.
Starting point is 02:43:14 You're not a fucking read. for some reason they're in a motel All right All right Benno Would have liked a Power Rangers sequel Feels like they had potential with that Also an Edge of Tomorrow sequel
Starting point is 02:43:28 Which apparently has a script Would be cool We said both of those earlier Edge Tomorrow I loved a lot I would love to see more in that universe The Power Rangers movie I'm okay without getting that sequel to it I never saw that one
Starting point is 02:43:41 I heard it was good It was okay But the The Edge of Tomorrow movie I don't think it will ever get made no Tom Cruise has got the next like five years mapped out it would have needed to have
Starting point is 02:43:54 happened already I am excited though for his Alejano is it Alfonso Korana or Alejandro in Urito one of the two he's doing some movie I think it's Alfonso Tower Rangers too definitely yeah Tom Cruise is playing Zordon it's gonna be great
Starting point is 02:44:07 I will piss in all the Power Rangers film oh no what are we looking at him for I'm sorry Tom Cruise director Alfonzo Alfonso Alejandro For which movie Just what's next
Starting point is 02:44:19 He's got like A Tom Cruise movie coming up Gotcha I am finding that for you I'm sorry I didn't have it ready I didn't anticipate you talking about Alfonso Corone It's Alejandro
Starting point is 02:44:32 It's an Alley G All right What's it called? There's no title for it right now But it comes out in 2026 here Whoa next year's crazy It's a black comedy movie That's exciting
Starting point is 02:44:45 Tom Cruise plays a black man. Dude, it's about time. Yeah. He's really going to be running this time. From Warner Brothers. All right, all right. That's pretty cool. Well, moving a line along.
Starting point is 02:44:58 Sorry, don't have much to contribute to that. Super Bowl, thank you. It's okay, because that makes a perfect segue into Ziploc, zenith moment of silence. Wow. Perfect. Wow. Interrupted by the alarm.
Starting point is 02:45:15 All right. Joshua Kimball is next. Got a one, two, four question installment here. All right, here we go. Joshua Kimball says this. I have a theory that instead of getting his powers from the beyonders, doom will get his power from living embodiments of the infinity stones. Loki, time, Wanda, reality, Bob, Mind, Thanos, or Galactus, power. Cahori or America, Chavez, Space.
Starting point is 02:45:45 and possibly Franklin Richard's soul. He would take their powers somehow, not necessarily killing them all, thus becoming a living infinity gauntlet, making him almost unstoppable. And since they aren't all the same universe, he'd be able to blend them together and use his new powers anyway.
Starting point is 02:46:12 I don't think even John knows what he's reading. Or out of space time. It's me with every page of Frankenstein. I love how... I love how much of a uphill battle that book. Oh, man, that was such a funny thing to watch. It took me a long time. I finally appreciate the Frankenstein book.
Starting point is 02:46:34 Every few words I can see, I can feel you grip back on, but then slip again the next sentence. That was so funny. I think that what you just described is, a very comicy solution to the doom problem. I unfortunately think that much like watching John read it, the average audience would struggle with the experience
Starting point is 02:46:52 of that being explained. What are you talking about, boy? So I think that's a really good comic storyline, but I think the medium of film, we're getting one Doom movie before Secret Wars. I don't know if we can quantify that quickly. So as much as I like the idea, I think it's going to be a bit more straightforward.
Starting point is 02:47:08 Hell yeah. Like this answer, thank you, Joshua Campbell. Thank you for the multiple. super chat. And I do like the idea a lot, but it's a very comicky idea. I think they should go more comicky. All right. Angry Carrot. 88 carrot top in the chat.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Yo! I was wondering if Coy and John could hop back on the DC animated universe for Teen Titans versus Teen Titans Go! It's a really fun movie. You guys are amazing. We got to get them to do Batman's Superman Public Enemy at some point first. Yeah, that's priority, I think. And that one other one, too. Those are two big Batman titles.
Starting point is 02:47:43 than all the Supergirl. Yes. The whole Melissa Bonoist? Yeah. All of it. Yes. All right. I agree.
Starting point is 02:47:50 That's got to be priority. The short-lived swamp thing series. Yeah. The West Craven movie. The West Craven movie as well. And, uh, wasn't there a Roger Corman Swamp Thing? Can he actually get one made?
Starting point is 02:48:01 On a Lou on Mike the Fantastic Four. You're thinking of the Bell Gibson Swamping. Christ killer. Yeah. And it's, uh, where he fights are also pros gladiator in the swamp. And it's spoken all in swamp tongue. Yeah, it's going to be great.
Starting point is 02:48:12 All right. R&P, Pacheco. I'm glad people show interest in those, though. Although I'll say when we brought it back. The interest does not follow. It was not a fanfare. A lot of movies who are interested in that seem to show up. Yep.
Starting point is 02:48:27 If you guys could go ahead and click when you type, that'd be amazing. R&P Pacheco, here we go. First time, Super Chat. No way, that's what I'm talking about. Thank you. That's what we like to hear. watching since 2014. Thoughts on Hulk rights.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Really? Wow. Took you this long to give a super chat. Longtime listener, first time caller. 11 years, we've earned it. First, where am I? Thoughts? Okay, here we go, here we go. I got you, Josh. Thoughts on the Hulk rights issues
Starting point is 02:49:01 and the possibilities of Hulk sequels and possible trilogy in the MCU. They'd have to make a second one first, so I don't see a trilogy coming. I feel like the, you know, Universal rights are clearly more complicated than you'd think because Mark Ruffalo barely feels like he can talk about it. I saw a thing the other day where like Mark Ruffalo couldn't sign Hulk on a shield. So she Hulk, Tatiana Musslani wrote, I'm with Hulk.
Starting point is 02:49:28 And like, I don't know what the rights are. So it's just seemingly messy legally. So I don't see a Hulk movie happening anytime soon. I genuinely think, though, Marvel could have. There's ways they don't, I feel like they're not thinking outside of the box of how they can. create another like magnetic pull for audiences if they found a way to do a Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo that did not have
Starting point is 02:49:55 these tie-ins to Avengers like still be the same universe and whatever the fuck but if they did an actual like super dark Hulk movie that felt very mature I think that would surprise people and be a new way to get people back in. He's a huge character that is not being utilized well. Let's not forget, Ang Lee a tour director
Starting point is 02:50:15 was interested completely drawn to that character for a reason the character presents a fascinating psychological complexity and the second
Starting point is 02:50:23 when Ed Norton was going to do sounded amazing I'd love to see something like that that's what I mean he is a character who inherently
Starting point is 02:50:28 has something that is truly bigger than comics he's a manifestation of trauma right I think there's a whole series there
Starting point is 02:50:36 legally though but he's funny now but he's very smart Hulk Professor Hulk it's a funny he's got a
Starting point is 02:50:42 sweater on. Yeah, so we need that. I agree. And I feel like if they decided to take some swing and do that film, it could make a difference for Marvel. I agree. Sometimes it's like, they should make a Logan. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. For Hulk, that would be amazing. Instead of just doing, like, we need new
Starting point is 02:50:58 characters or new crossovers. Sometimes you've got the hits, play the hits sometimes. Why not just do the character we already have and make something like fucking emotionally gripping with that one character. Yeah, I agree. Logan's the prime example of that. It's called a movie Bruce.
Starting point is 02:51:14 All right. The Geno Bides. What? Kenya King. You read a Kenya King, but I will go back and make sure we didn't miss a second, Keny King. Kenya King. I watched a Blade 2 reaction on this channel. Yeah, we got that one.
Starting point is 02:51:37 Oh, you are correct. We're going back. If this was a Rob Zombie movie, I'd thirding you with sexual assault, then bash your head in. And a great song would play. Yeah, it would. It would. The soundtracks, baby. All right, Kenya King, thank you.
Starting point is 02:51:53 I'm so sorry. I apologize personally to you. Okay, here we go. I'd love Craigor, as in Zach Craigor, to do a nightmare on Elm Street remake. What do you think, gang? I'm really excited for Resident Evil because so far we've seen two incredible brand-new IPs from him.
Starting point is 02:52:10 I'm curious how he does when it's playing in someone else's shared sandbox but if that goes well I'd love to see his nightmare but I'm really excited for Resident Evil have you heard the story about someone saying that he should be that Jim Carrey should be the new Freddie Kruger
Starting point is 02:52:26 that's fun I like that a lot you think he could pull it off yeah in a way that's actually scary yeah I think there's a darkness in Jim Carrey that is waiting to come out I don't think he'd just be the Grinch would also watch no but I it was the nightmare before Christmas
Starting point is 02:52:41 Nightmare for Grinchis. But no, I think there's a darkness in Jim Carrey he'd want to play in. Like, his dramas have a dark, darkness to him. I'd love to see that. And all that energy and all that, like, zaniness, but put towards, like, I'd want to watch that. I just feel like the voice he would do might not be scary. I think his darkness is usually, like, rooted in sad people. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 02:53:07 Not, like, aggressively, I don't know. There's some Jim Carrey. dramas I've missed, so. I think he could do it. I think he could do it. I don't know if he would want to do it because I think he'd have to be too... Freddy's like a dark evil character.
Starting point is 02:53:20 It's not a sonic movie. Yeah, that's kind of what he's wondering. That's where he's... That's where he wants to do things that are like happy and net stretch. Well, it would be an interesting stretch. I think it would be really interesting for him to play Freddy. Like Dr. Robot.
Starting point is 02:53:36 Again. I don't know if he would actually want that. That's his virtual. Came out of retirement. Came out of retirement for Robotnik. He was ready for it. All right. All right.
Starting point is 02:53:47 The genobides were back in action. It was so good seeing you guys at IMAX HQ for Tron. What? We already got it, Freddie, with Beckman. That's right. We did. We did. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:04 I was happy. I was so happy. You got to me, to my brother. He says, thank you for the screening. He's a cool guy, man. Hope to see you guys soon, and hope to see John next time. I know. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:54:14 I had to preserve my virgin eyes for when the VOD drop happened. He was in the projector booth. I was projecting the film. Thank you, Jim. It was great to see you. I appreciate you. It's cool to find them to meet your brother. I hope your roommate's doing well.
Starting point is 02:54:29 I noticed you did not bring us snacks. I noticed a lack of snacks. You knew we'd be there. Snack lack. Yeah. Snack alike. That's her new nickname now. But we abide.
Starting point is 02:54:38 Snack like Jen. Yeah. snack a lot reminding you of that is that you recalled in high school snack snack snack like I mean in fairness IMAX did have snacks so she probably thought
Starting point is 02:54:49 why would I were Jen snacks They weren't those are better Jen snacks are better Jen snacks are way better Always superior I don't need more peanut M&Ms Jen snacks is my favorite boy spin on All right
Starting point is 02:55:01 She brings these little gummy like from Asia kind of things like these little like mochi gummy That were really good that one time Yeah those are good She brought me an Asian prostitute once Hell yeah. Another kind of Asian snack. I ate her.
Starting point is 02:55:16 HR! You're not supposed to be laughing. Yeah. We're going to fire you. Alice. All right. Damn, dude. We're a portless filed.
Starting point is 02:55:29 You're going to get us in trouble. You're going to get us in trouble with you. All right. All right. The next one, uh-oh, uh-oh. Look out now. Joshua Campbell says, Do y'all not read superchats?
Starting point is 02:55:42 No. No, what are those? What's a super chat? What's a football? I'm Ron Bergeny. It's okay. We get there eventually. That's how we do it.
Starting point is 02:55:52 Did he contribute to super chat earlier? Yeah. We read four parts from... Oh, yeah, that's right. He was a four part of the Avengers. It just took us a while to get too... Sorry. So, yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:04 But yes, thank you, Josh. You know, we thought today's stream would be a slam dunk. We also thought we'd be done at 2.15. We thought to... I was like, do you want to go to the store after? I was like, I came here. I had to eat more at 4.
Starting point is 02:56:17 He was like, we thought today, I mean, we had started a little bit late, had internet glitch, and then Koi and I wanted to talk. Here we are, 320. All right, Alan Smithies up next. It's the list stuff, because the list makes us go. There are things we really want to talk about. You guys, we're so excited about the next one down. Shit.
Starting point is 02:56:38 Times 20. The list does. 10 and 10 is a lot. Damn, yeah. Okay. We learned. All right. Alan Smithy.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Happy Friday, guys. Happy Friday to you. I'm tired. Alan. I am energized by your comments here. All right. I've still got to do another shoot with Aaron after this. That's just rise to the guardians.
Starting point is 02:56:59 Oh, that's way more intense. I got to finish eating that prostitute. Yeah. She's been waiting this whole time. She's been sitting in the fridge. for weeks. It's about time. All right.
Starting point is 02:57:11 I got Thai food, not ironically in the fridge right now. I've got an Asian snack. I'm actually waiting to eat. All right. Alan Smithy, we're doing it. Happy Friday, guys. I love Bubba Hotep
Starting point is 02:57:27 with Bruce Campbell as old man Elvis versus a mummy. Don't forget Aussie Davis, as old man JFK or whatever. There was almost a sequel called Bubba Nost for with Elvis versus vampires and Paul Giamatti as Colonel Tom Parker. What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:57:43 I have, what? Uh, Bubba Hotep is a, I think it's a Don Coscarelli movie. It stars as, who's Don Coscarelli? Just saying these troma-esque titles, like we know them, John. Bubba Hotep is a movie where it takes place in an old, in like a rest home, a retirement home for old folks. Bruce Campbell plays a guy who believes that he is Elvis, so he just kind of dresses is an axe Elvis. Is that what I've seen those images from?
Starting point is 02:58:09 Probably. And then Osie Davis is his buddy there who thinks he's like the reincarnated spirit of JFK. They're just hanging around their little retirement home. And then some supernatural occurrence happens that unleashes a mummy. And they got to fight the mummy. It's a cult classic at this point. Sounds like a fun passion project. If this can get made, Christ Killer can get made.
Starting point is 02:58:30 Christ Killer can get made. I'm just saying, if you just lower the budget. By a lot. By like, you know, to nothing. Current Russell Crow maybe do it. And if you get a lot of people to work for free, you can really get that movie made, man. Gladiator, too.
Starting point is 02:58:41 Christ Killer. John... I just want to let you guys know that Jen is going to bring you snacks, which is a crazy thing. Why? Oh, no. She didn't know how Max Head's cute was like... Is IMAX?
Starting point is 02:58:52 You're not going to bring snacks. That's true. That's a fair assumption. I bring snacks every time. Yeah, you just got to be clever about it. People don't want to check your backpack. Bring your backpack. You could literally bring bombs.
Starting point is 02:59:06 Don Coscarelli directed Fantasms movies All the Fantasms Many of the Fantasem movies Yeah is that a demonetized term right there They're never gonna check your bags You can bring the head of a decapitated victim Snack
Starting point is 02:59:22 John dies at the end he directed as well You have an Asian prostitute You could bring an Asian prostitute They wouldn't even know You did an episode of Masters of Horror IMAX is never inviting us again A little movie before You should probably start taking backpacks
Starting point is 02:59:39 All right Bubahotep is lovely Go watch Bubba Hotep That's the bubble Go watch Bubahotep I agree Alan Smithy
Starting point is 02:59:49 I want the sequel All right Mustafa and Jav And we'll do a quickie refresh I wish Jumper 2008 Was a full-fledged franchise Didn't they make a show
Starting point is 03:00:00 I think maybe Yeah they wanted to make a whole franchise I wanted to see it I thought there was like a YouTube original, when YouTube originals were a thing, the thing that launched Cobra Kai. People forget that, man. There was a
Starting point is 03:00:12 fucking Cobra Guy came from YouTube. Always Sunny did. It was a YouTube contest. Was it? Always Sunny started as a YouTube contest and those guys jumped up. Now it's the longest running live action show. But when they did YouTube originals, they were trying to make their own streaming service. Right, but even before that, like it was a contest and then they got acquired. Yeah. Shit. I forgot. Cobra Kai was a YouTube OG. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:34 YouTube Premium had a series called Impulse that is based on the Stephen Gould novel that followed Jumper. Yes, exactly. So they were trying to do it. And Jumper, I don't feel like that really grew in popularity. No. I hear it brought up on occasion, but it's, but it does seem like a bit of a niche. I do know the people who watched it like people that love it, love it. People, yeah, it does have the fan base, but I don't think the fan base is big enough to warrant it going, but it was a fun movie. I don't really remember it, but I remember thinking this is surprisingly fun. But it did come out around the time when everyone was like, Hayden Christensen sucks. And I think a lot of that was unfairly placed on that film.
Starting point is 03:01:16 I agree from what I remember. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, my. What? Okay, we're good. We have a volley of stream labs more to get to. All right.
Starting point is 03:01:32 I think Lockland Wright has been. trying to send Super Chats the entire time, even when they were open and didn't get through them. So we have a gauntlet of little fivers here on the Super Chats on the Stream Labs. So we can do a speed round with Lockland Wright to end off the day. All right. Okay, look.
Starting point is 03:01:49 Let's read them all at one sitting. Appreciate the enthusiasm because this is a good amount, and I don't want to be disrespectful because this is a good amount. So, let's read them all, give a qualitative answer. And if any more happen to come in after this, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 03:02:04 we cannot answer more, but Coy, let's go out on a high note and give a fantastic answer wherever he's going to say here. Ready. All right. You just read them all in a big chunk. That's where I started with John. We're losing time.
Starting point is 03:02:15 Lockland Wright says, Hey, guys. So I messaged you about Marvel and DC possibly fixing their phrasing issue on a stream two weeks ago. You're welcome for the double send and free money. Okay. What I meant was,
Starting point is 03:02:30 look at the MCU. You have the first phase that builds up to the Avengers, which works beautiful little sprinkles in each movie. But in the second phase, we are so concentrated on Thanos that Ultra, one of the biggest Marvel villains, gets flopped, which could have been his own arc. Ultron, he was talking about. Ultron, there we go.
Starting point is 03:02:51 Imagine if Iron Man 3 introduced the idea, Cap 2 added, Thor was standalone, Guardians of the Galaxy was also a standalone, and Ant Man was a possible add-on. than Avengers, but I would say call it Avengers Rise of Ultron or if it is age of Ultron, then make it a two-parter
Starting point is 03:03:11 with some tie-ins in the middle so it feels more like an age. Same thing with Civil War. Okay, I gave it her saying. But I wouldn't have made it a Cap movie Civil War. I would have made it a sort of perspective shift than Avengers being the finale. Like a new hero starts it. Do an Iron Man
Starting point is 03:03:29 4 to add tie-ins of different heroes adding to the story. Cap 3 in the middle and Avengers to end. This is basically what they did over three phases with Infinity War, so it would work and would make so you don't, and would make so you didn't have to follow the 27
Starting point is 03:03:45 movies before and just need to follow the phases. Sorry for such a long message, but I really wanted to get your thoughts as I didn't explain it well last time. Also, I live in Illawara Australia. Australia. Cool. Hit me up.
Starting point is 03:04:01 Down under. And you're always welcome to Dave, Jackman. You have free accommodations here? Mr. Sunday movies. That's right, James. All right, so what do we think of this rewritten phase plan? I mean, hindsight is definitely 2020. You can do, you know, some phrasing turns like they did,
Starting point is 03:04:24 Edge of Tomorrow's a great example of they weirdly retitled that to live, die, repeat. But I feel like the Marvel universe is a miracle to be as cohesive as it is. we've learned since phase three how much real life gets in the way and things go wrong. Phase one through three going as well as they did is incredible statistically. But now there's too many eyes on everything and it couldn't happen again.
Starting point is 03:04:46 I personally think age Riltern is a bit grandiose of a title for how short that age is. I'm with you there. Civil War I would have liked as a standalone. They felt like they had to tie it to cap to give it a POV because your other antagonist is a hero and that needs to have an anchor. So I get why they did all the choices they did
Starting point is 03:05:01 while also understanding your notes. Well, I think what he's mainly boiling down to is he's suggesting that instead of doing like a giant arcing thing over one, like several phases, make each phase. That way you could just walk right into that one phase. You don't feel like you need to watch these other preexisting ones. Yeah. And maybe that is something Marvel should consider moving forward. I think more containment is always a good idea. Because yeah, I think the narrative is getting a little bit lost and like where do we start now?
Starting point is 03:05:31 like even phase five doesn't feel like a phase it just kind of started and ended it just feels like there's like some movies we just put in here it feels like here are the movies that happened in those years right versus a story that was told in phase five and moving forward after dooms day it seems like it probably would be the smarter choice to allow to to title each phase yeah versus just a phase five or phase six when phase four and five ended both times I was like huh like it didn't feel like it had a conclusion yeah and and sometimes the title of it creates a different type of framework in someone's mind when processing something. Like if they called the newest Doctor Who, if they just called it Doctor Who season 20, I'd be like, oh, fuck, I got to watch. Too much work. 17, like 19 seasons before this, but by just calling it a different thing, even though it is technically a season 20, it makes someone feel like they can just walk in right there. I agree. And that's actually not a bad note for moving forward.
Starting point is 03:06:31 words to give your instead of calling phase four or phase seven or something you you just call it something else instead of phase right just don't refer to it as phase don't put it as a number yeah yeah make like call it like a subtitle or something yeah the civil war saga like i love that uh that context of like calling it the age of ultron phase yeah it would have been a cool thing to call it um because yeah that is how i sometimes feel like i can hop in a comic books event comics uh without feel like i need to read the pre-existing ones. Yeah. Because of how well they've established this.
Starting point is 03:07:03 Actually, at first when we were like, oh, what? We got a last minute one. I'm hearing that. Actually, on a producer note, that sounds really cool.
Starting point is 03:07:13 And I'd never actually consider that. That would be a pretty smart way to, I hope they, I feel like that's something they're probably already considering. They must be. Maybe like the X-Men phase and even saga. X-Men being like X-Force blank,
Starting point is 03:07:24 X-Factor blank. Yeah, but they got to get rid of the whole phase seven. 100%. They cannot. After Secret Wars, no. Ooh, it's probably going to be an exciting error, though. Yeah, it needs to feel fresh and new. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:36 Like, the comics have to do, new number ones, new starts. Cool. Well, thanks for Sun and Son and Sonos on a high note. That was actually a really cool note to end up. I really like that. Hell yeah. All right, we're done. We did it!
Starting point is 03:07:49 Three and a half hours! Coy and us. Well, that has been another live stream of Greg and Coy. and it goes out the window about halfway, sometimes with tech, sometimes with madness. We will not be back next week with the live stream. We have Tara and Roxy breaking down the Halloween rankings right here on this set. You're seeing a sneak preview of.
Starting point is 03:08:13 We'll be back in two weeks with another live stream. Greg will think it'll go two hours. I'll know it'll go three and we'll see you there. Bye. Thank you guys. Hey. Hey, awesome. All right, mute our mics because I want to talk mad shit about Andrew Gordon right now.
Starting point is 03:08:59 Thank you. Psyth. Psyth. Psyth. Psyth. Thank you.

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