The Reel Rejects - The Sequels We NEVER Got But Should Have! (Marvel, DC, Star Wars, & Horror)
Episode Date: October 25, 2025THE GREATEST SEQUELS NEVER MADE! Dive into the ultimate "what if" rabbit hole with Reel Rejects' Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau as they unpack cancelled sequels and unmade movies that could've rewritten Hol...lywood history! From Kylo Ren's scrapped Star Wars solo film and David Fincher's dark Star Wars vision to epic follow-ups like Alita: Battle Angel 2, The Amazing Spider-Man 3 with Andrew Garfield's Sinister Six showdown, and Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4 featuring Vulture and Anne Hathaway's Black Cat— these abandoned movie sequels had killer plots, A-list talent, and game-changing concepts that got shelved for good (or bad) reasons.In this unmade movies deep dive, we break down Darren Aronofsky's gritty Batman: Year One, Neill Blomkamp's District 10, Dredd 2 with Judge Death, Edge of Tomorrow 2: Live Die Repeat and Repeat, the terrifying E.T. 2: Nocturnal Fears, Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash, The Godfather Part IV with Leo DiCaprio as young Sonny, Gremlins 3 in Vegas, Joel Schumacher's Batman Unchained, the wild Jurassic Park 4 dino-human hybrids, Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill Vol. 3, Man of Steel 2 with Brainiac and Supergirl, the original Matrix 4 pitch, The Nice Guys 2, Roger Rabbit 2: Who Discovered Roger Rabbit, Tim Burton's Batman 3, Tim Miller's Deadpool 2, David Fincher's World War Z 2, and Zack Snyder's Justice League sequels complete with Darkseid, Knightmare timelines, and a Bruce Kent epilogue! Follow Coy Jandreau: Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Interesting.
Welcome to the Real Rejects podcast, ladies and gentlemen, we go live every Friday.
Coy, you're looking less like a cat.
I feel way more like I got an eyebrow, right?
can we say where you've been yeah yeah now we can talk about it now uh i got a hair transplant
a week ago on eight days ago this is day eight of healing uh and my face is is not swollen anymore
day three and four were the worst and then since it's been on the on the progression but uh it's been
a i mean speaking of physicality and confidence it's been a fun journey of being like very
personal on the internet and i'm trying it out i mean made a video on my youtube talking about
my whole experience yeah trying around with this this thing we're building with being open
do you feel better about it?
I feel very excited for like, you know, the next few months are going to be growing and cycling through,
but I think in six months and then from then on the rest of my life, I'll be really happy.
But like, you know, this process was 10 days of like some pain, some itchiness, but not as bad as I feared.
And then it's like waiting for hair to grow.
So it's kind of like waiting for paint to dry.
Like it's not an exciting period after this.
There's like a 10 day window of big change and then it's like, and now we wait.
were you ever made fun of for having a bald spot?
No, I saw in my own lighting the thinness in the front that I didn't like.
I saw corners, so I had like, I didn't realize my barber was doing me a solid.
I had like a bit more of a comb over than I realized.
Like we moved it and this side was long and this side was short.
So he was helping me out.
So like I had my corners that I didn't like, but the back of my head I didn't start noticing
to like six months ago on a carpet.
I like leaned forward and I was like, oh, wow.
But no one else had a problem but me.
I'd get the occasional comment of someone
like looking to attack me
for something, but it felt as
random as anything else. Like, oh, Coy's getting
fat. Oh, it wasn't. Like, Coy's bald.
You're just looking, you're bored. But like
I was getting bothered by it, so I wanted
to do something. All right. So yeah,
it feels good to like do a thing that I
wanted to change. And that's fitness is next.
November I'm going into like, because I
September I got diagnosed with vertigo and I couldn't stand
for about a week. And then
October I got the transplant so I couldn't work out a week before
two weeks after, so that's three weeks. So I'm kind of
starting from scratch, like July, I was doing great.
And now November, I'm going to really focus on fitness and try to do like a full
transformation of like, it'll be so cool to look at six months later, my hair fuller,
my gains crazy, like the full transformation into like Adonis until I'm old and dead.
Like I'm, this is the last window of like, I'm turning 40 in three years.
My body's not going to have this much testosterone for long.
I'm not going to be.
So like I've got like 13 years.
I want to see how much I can get into like stupid mode and then let my body deteriorate into
death.
They're having a midlife coices.
Yeah, I like this one, though.
Like instead of a Ferrari, I'm like, become a Ferrari.
If everyone watches the Conan O'Brien podcast, we have a son I'm obsession now.
Yes, I agree.
Great reference.
She doesn't even know who that is.
No, it's a compliment, though.
Yeah.
He's great.
She says she knows who Conan is.
So that's a step.
He's tall.
He's very tall, very funny.
Tall man.
Your parallel with that was, like, the most helpful thing I've heard, the Conan O'Brien, like, use in our conversation like two days ago.
Saying, like, you know, Conan O'Brien's his own entity outside of his show.
Yeah.
That's a really beautiful way to look at.
especially with the internet's becoming the democratization of entertainment i have i'm trying i'm trying
to hear that in a way of how no one knows what you're really referred to the internet being like
i don't i don't think influencers and content creators and like those things are terms of endearment
i think of talk show hosts as a positive thing yeah because we're old heads like we're not this
generation like gen z wants to be YouTubers i hear youtube and i'm like i'm like fucking
youtube and so like but conan became his own entity of entertainment using the platform
of YouTube. And I think that's beautiful. Yeah. Like, I think that's the goal not to become,
like, a content creator. Because I think of, like, people living in, like, shared mansions
and, like, making Lamborghini videos with their rentals. Like, that's so disgusting. I think after
he got fired from this night show, he started becoming his own entity. Yeah, exactly. And I think
that's a bar to set. That's a crazy bar to set. He was able to do a show just called Conan.
And everyone knew who it was. It took back that barbarian name. So here's what we're doing today.
First off, let me explain to you guys why we have a Halloween set. It's not.
because Koi and I are in a big festive mood. It is because next week, Koi, I don't think
we should do a live stream next week. You're telling me this now, Greg. I feel like what people
should get instead is what was recorded yesterday. Tara and Roxy sat down here to do a ranking
of the Halloween movies. Cool. And they decked it out. A little bit more decked out. Was it more
decked out than what we see right now? It was more decked out than what you see right now. We left
this on the wall. John was with them, was with them.
yesterday. And you guys have been engaging so much with their Halloween videos. And we were like,
yeah, let's have them do a pre-tape and go enjoy that. And I would, maybe I'll get my Halloween.
That'd be fine. Do you, a Halloween guy? A huge Halloween guy. It's my favorite holiday next to my
birthday. Narcissism and dressing as others.
On the counter says, Labor Day. And every calendar has coys. It's crazy. It's a national holiday.
If I was president, I would be, I'd make Trump look like an egoless man.
Taking a national holiday, schools are off.
Well, what we're going to talk about today, in honor of the Kylo-Ren movie being canceled,
that's acting like there was something supposed to happen, and we all knew about it.
It's a crazy storm that's been happening on X.
I'm trying.
I still find myself saying X.
Whenever I say X, my brain goes, why am I calling it X?
Is that what I should just call it now?
Yeah.
Who calls it X?
And I feel like when people call it X, sounds disingenuous.
So I don't know what I should call it anymore.
Does it feel weird to call it X?
It feels really weird to call it X.
I would call it Twitter.
Should I conform to it?
Who are you conforming to?
I feel like there's two camps.
The Republican crowd.
I mean, hey, we want a different demographic.
Only Republicans call it X.
I don't know anyone in life that calls an X, but I also don't know.
When you just said it, I had to be like, I don't know any Republican or liberal who calls
it X.
I like, it's Twitter.
Yeah.
But I know I have to type X to get there.
Yeah.
Anyway, on X.
On X, there was this, the story that was popping off all over the past week is how Adam Driver was apparently developing a movie with Steven Soderberg where it was the whole script they did to continue the Ben Solo story.
And apparently Adam Driver said it was one of the best scripts he's ever read and that they were going to do it.
but then they ended up not doing it.
And then what also came out is that David Fincher was working on a secret sequel to one of the characters in the new trilogy.
And then it spurred this topic that we're doing today, which is the movie sequels that we never got.
But perhaps we should have gotten them.
And we got quite a few to get through.
So I'm curious to see what you guys say in the chat.
I would like to know just right now.
like, put it in the chat, what are some of the movies that spring to mind?
And, yeah, if we get to like the stream lads and super chats, I wonder where that's going to morph into.
Thank you guys for last week.
John and I were here for almost four hours because we do not end a stream without going through every stream lab and super chat.
We always have a goal to end on time.
Today is 2.15 p.m.
Let's see if we can hit that mark.
It all depends on you guys today.
So thank you guys so much for contributing.
It helps.
And if you can't, that's fine.
Just stick around.
leave a like on this video because one of the bigger parts that we want to grow this into
is of course with the with the playbacks more than just when we are currently live we like when
we're live and i like that we've been doing different types of topics like this as opposed to just
typical movie news because it feels more us yeah and i feel like we're even though it might not get
as much immediate view count wise i'm recognizing all of us are the amount of people who keep
showing up every single week yeah that does not go on notice and i'm happier building
It really feels like we're building like a community within the community right now.
And it feels really cool to be doing something different.
So thank you guys who have been here every single week.
Or if you're watching this on the playback, leave a comment, leave a like.
That'd be amazing.
Now, before we go into our big list is we got a lot of different ones to go through.
Marvel, DC, Star Wars, things that are not any of the big IPs.
What are your thoughts on this canceled Kylo Ren movie, Coy?
I'm as devastated by it as the I know nothing else about it except for Fincher.
Star Wars movie because I'm a big Soderberg guy.
I like his smaller films.
I like his giant like obviously
the Oceans trilogy I think is one of the great
trilogies. He's a master
of ensemble and I can't imagine
what he could have done with Star Wars. I
love his visual aesthetic. I think he does
a lot with no budget which Star Wars kind of
needs. I think when Star Wars is thriving
it's got a specific vision. It's really
good at low budget and it's able to use an ensemble.
That's Soderberg. The thing
that Soderberg is is
what Star Wars is missing. So the idea
that it was developed with the actor, the idea that it was a character that we loved
from the new trilogy, all of that sounds amazing. And then on top of that, we got the Fincher news.
So I, Fincher's my favorite director, comfortably, confidently. What we could have gotten with
a character study of anarchy, of anti-war commentary on, I mean, like, he's known for his
like serial killer stuff a lot of the time. What would a Fincher Star Wars even look like?
The fact that we know so little just has my brain like, what is that version of? Because there's
always a tone even in stuff like mank there's some dna of fincher that shines through in a different
way than is through line of like seven and mine hunter and all those things so i just it's such a
multiversal what if i would love to know at finchers anything would have been in the world of star
wars because i can't even get to like step b i'm trapped at a like what what how what so uh sodeberg
sounds good because i can see it fincher sounds amazing because i have no idea what it would have been
Well, with the Ben Solo one, here are some details that I wrote down.
It would have been a character-driven sequel with exploring the redemption and return of Ben Solo after his supposed death in the rise of Skywalker.
It would have examined unresolved spiritual and metaphysical elements of the force, including how a redeemed force user deals with the aftermath of genocide, war, and sacrifice.
Tone was said to be intimate, philosophical, and a tour-driven, reflecting Sotomayette's filmmaking style.
And the movie would likely have explored whether Ben Solo survived,
returned to the force for existed in a liminal state between life and death,
possible inclusion of Ray.
That was genuinely.
And apparently Disney executives shut it down because they could not see how Ben Solo could still be alive.
In Star Wars, in the world of Star Wars, they could not see how Ben Solow himself.
Somehow Palpatine returned was enough.
Yeah.
But those words was enough for them.
Couldn't see how this was possible.
Wow.
And it's so weird because in.
in a day and age where franchises are known for when the hell do characters ever really die yeah
they couldn't see this and i do feel like they miss out on something because i feel like out of any
of the new characters that popped up in the trilogy almost unanimously adam driver as an addition
was one of the most beloved i feel like when in the new era it was grogu or it's called what
people really call him Baby Yoda, Baby Yoda, the Mandalorian, and Adam Driver. Yeah. As
Kylo Ren, those were the three right there. So this to me is a big misopportuny to actually do something
very different. Also, something like the plot addresses their problem. What you just described is
about, like, how would he return? Does he? Like, it's a conversation. It's a, it's a narrative
about that exact premise. Yeah. And it's a, it's a bummer because this doesn't seem like it was,
it seems like they were just trying to distance themselves from the sequel trilogy
at this point because the sequel trilogy was not well received
and then Rise of Skywalker was so not well received
that I think that's why it was ultimately shut down
but there's a campaign going for right now
it's become it seems like it's starting to become
some Snyder cut type of deal
where they fly a plane or something like that
I mean Mandelord and Grogo is the only Star Wars thing
that is based off any of that so if there could be anything
to grow that universe I think it's smart
and it could be reasonably budgeted
And Adam Driver is a much bigger name now.
Yeah.
He's much more respected.
Yeah.
Star Wars kind of needs something that could have in a tour-driven direction.
Right.
The fans are being outspoken saying they actually want this.
We're talking about it.
How often do we talk about Star Wars?
How often are we excited?
And Adam Driver himself is putting it out there that he really wants to dumb.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
I feel like this is way more likely than whatever Fincher has up his sleeve.
I believe Fincher won a final cut.
There's no chance of hell if it's going to come out.
There's no way Fincher would get a final cut.
I don't, I don't, that's almost like Tarantino wanting to do a Star Trek movie.
I'm like, that's not going to happen.
What's crazy to me is that Fincher getting final cut is as impossible as it is because
the IP, but what Fincher's doing now, like a straight to Netflix movie is so crazy to me.
Yeah.
Like where Fincher went from making, you know, these giant profit-driven movies, like his
movies are made, you know, Fight Club didn't make a lot of money, but his smaller budget
films still make money because he's got a built-in audience.
I can't imagine what his Star Wars would look like.
I think that built in.
audience would go with it, but there's no reality where Disney wouldn't own so much of it.
I feel like he'd be shackled like he was the Alien 3.
Like Alien 3 wasn't a Fincher movie.
It was a studio movie.
Yeah.
What would it even look like to have Fincher working for Disney?
I can't even picture it.
But instead, the cost is a straight to Netflix movie.
I hate that the cost of creative freedom is Netflix gets it.
Like, that's such a shame.
The idea that we're getting a once upon a time in Hollywood sequel, written by one of the great
writers, directed by one of the great directors, and it'll get, like,
like a limited release.
Like, that's insane to me.
What cost art?
What if Disney actually started doing that, though, with some of these?
Let's say they actually greenlit this Kylo Ren movie.
What if they decided that it's going to be a Disney Plus movie,
but it will get a limited theatrical window for two to three weeks?
I mean, I'd show up.
It wouldn't make any money, but I'd be there.
You don't think you would make money?
I feel like that's how you get your money from the diehards in the theaters.
How many, I mean, what's Disney costs now?
Disney Plus description?
I don't know.
I'm scared to look.
Yeah, that's fair.
I can use rocketmoney.com.
Check your ass.
Like 10 bucks, 12 bucks?
I don't know, 15 bucks, 20 bucks a month?
That much.
Divided by like a family of five.
There's no way that $4 is going to add up times even like a million people watch.
It's just not profitable.
Well, I think Mandelaar and Grogoe might be the ultimate test.
It does not bode well.
Is that supposed to be a fully theatrical window?
Right.
But that first trailer did not make a strong impression with almost anyone.
But look at F1.
That's an.
Apple made movie that they're holding off for 11 or what eight months. I'm going to Apple Plus.
And it's one of the number one movies in box office worldwide. Yeah. Like theatrical is still the
way to make money, but make your movie good. Yes. And we are also in a day and age two when it comes
to intellectual properties where they do look a little bit more past theatrical release when it comes
to profit. Sure. And that's something I think we constantly forget to actually discuss. Number two on
Nielsen ratings this week. Yeah. I think it's been out forever. That's kind of like
with almost every property, though, is they look at, you know, the merch
of digital sales, the V. I'm saying streaming first is a problem. Yeah, of course it is.
So, like, if you're going to do a Soderberg film, I think three-month theatrical and then
do your back end on, on your apps. But like, we still need movies and theaters if you're going to make
money. Streaming is cancer. I feel like Disney would be fools not to try this again, because
we've had a couple of announcements of Star Wars movies. We have the Ray movie that's supposedly
supposed to happen, the James Mangold movie that's supposed to happen. We have the Sean Levy,
Ryan Gosling movie coming out. It's been a long time since I've seen the fan base get this
exciting. Yeah, I agree. Whoa. They seem, there's this kind of something feels unanimous
about the enthusiasm for actually wanting this out of something of the new era. This is something
they should really reconsider. But what do you guys think? How do you feel about the pacing today?
Uh, I think, uh, we're trying to get to our main story, but the main story is another story.
Yeah, I mean, kind of in a funky headspace for like two straight days.
I, uh, I, I think I'm definitely navigating like the, the recalibration of like, I'm really excited for this show, but I also know, like, we've got a ton of other filming to do.
So it weighing on me that, like, conserve some energy, but also this.
I feel like every hour for the past two days, I'm being pulled in a different direction to take some serious consideration of a decision to do.
Yes, fair.
yeah yeah i get that and it was like happening like before we went live too like 10 minutes before
i had to switch over to that other office for a second and then i got back here i'm like oh yeah
let's focus on this right so yeah same page yeah a little bit head funky and then i felt like we
have to just acknowledge that i feel like i'm feeling this so you might be feeling it a little bit too
so if we just acknowledge it then we can finally move the fuck past it now we can just enjoy it
instead of trying to like bury it and let it just slowly see what take over so here we are
Coy.
Yes.
Why don't we get to the main stories
that we actually want to do,
the real topic that we want to get to.
Because this was fun as fluctuate research.
This was a really fun.
I got very excited to actually do this.
Honestly,
like,
I think it's also part of it.
I'm like,
get to the thing.
I'm excited for video chapters
because people could skip house
all the Kyle Wren shit.
Yeah.
Which I feel like was a reasonably all right discussion,
but here's where I think the fun really cooks.
I'll let you go first, man.
So I wrote down a bunch of movies.
You wrote down a bunch of movies.
And we'll see where we are within 45 minutes.
Yes.
Because it's going to be a journey.
So let's get through the main ones we want to go through.
Okay.
Let's see what we have left.
Because we both have like 25.
Yeah.
I think we're both over.
I definitely have 25.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm going to do my second one first.
I'm sorry, John.
I know you pulled graphics.
But if you can go to my second one, I want to talk about Batman versus Superman.
That's right.
The movie.
What are you talking about?
That didn't get made before.
BBS.
Batman versus Superman starring Jude Law as Superman and Colin.
Farrell as Batman.
The hell is this?
We had a Wolfgang Peterson directed Batman versus Superman way back in the day before BVS was even an idea.
And they were going to do like a giant historical epic.
The guy that made Doss Boot, the guy that made Troy, the guy that made never ending story, like Wolfgang Peterson doing a Colin Farrell Batman, doing a Jude Law with most of his hair, Superman.
This would have been, I think, a very different era of superhero content in general because this.
would have been so big it would have either ushered in an early dc in a very different way it might
have changed what marvel became this is such a crazy idea because i can't imagine society and
pop culture today being the same if this had existed this might be the biggest like it could seem
alongside george miller's justice league oh my god everything's different but i feel like people
know about george millers justice league no one realizes how close this was to be they were cast
so this wasn't a secret no it was colin ferrell was batman the main topic at hand i didn't know the
word sequel was so integral to this.
Oh, it is when we're starting this off.
Well, I messed up the top.
Oh, great.
It's a sequel to my dreams.
It's a sequel to my dreams.
Dude, Batman called Farrell.
Let's pause for a second.
If they did this first, though, without any prior movie, that would have been freaking weird.
Unlike doing it as the first new Batman?
I think it makes more sense to do a Batman v. Superman following Man and Steel that it
does to just spring us into
a Batman versus Superman. I think
it would be easier to digest
a launch in knowing neither of them
than half no one of them.
Really? Yeah, because then it's more like
Guardians or more like
a team movie. You're
unequal footing versus like
why is our Superman sequel a Batman
movie? Don't you think it would have been lodged very
similar complaints though? Oh, 100%.
I don't even say it would have been good. I think
it would have been different. I think it would have been epic.
So you would have been fascinated by it. I think
DC is much more like gods and deities than Marvel.
And I think Zach Snyder gets that.
And I love the Snyder cut.
And I'm really excited to like look at that world with a little distance.
That said, there is a certain amount of the 2006, 2008 of it all that Snyder had to contend with that Wolfgang Peterson wouldn't have had to.
I think Snyder had a really hard thing where it was like in a greedy post-Nolan world gods.
Like what the hell?
Whereas Wolfgang Peterson would have made like Troy with God.
gods. And the deity nature and the and the archetypal characters that is DC, I cannot imagine. And you getting to launch that with characters and equal footing is way easier than in a post Batman begins world. Here's a dark and gritty Superman. And then a new Batman. Snyder never had a chance to establish his own complete thing. Whereas Wolf King Peterson, what would that have been?
It's fair. So like I would argue it could have been a more confident film and a more comfortable film launching them both together.
that would have been an interesting movie
and Judelaw Colin Farrell is crazy
have they not done something together
no and also
the journey that Colin Farrell's been on
to get to Penguin involved being cast
as Batman at some point
you think Jude Law would have been a good
Superman I think you would have to bulk up a lot
and I think it would have played a lot more
like Brandon Rouths
I think it would have been a very like ethereal
like soft spoken pondersome
huh and then I can totally see Colin Farrell's Bruce Wayne
yeah yeah like that one's easy
that's plug and play and also he's got that like
darkness to him. And that was in his bad boy era. It's weird with Superman, how Superman feels like
that's a much easier. Like when you find a Superman, you're like, okay, yeah, that guy fits Superman.
Yeah, that's perfect. But there's not as many who can do it. I feel. Yeah. Yet,
Batman's a more complex character, and I feel like more people can do Batman. I think there's
more ways to play Batman than to play Superman. That's why, yeah. And I think that's been the problem
with Superman. Yeah. But like Wolfgang Peterson passed three years ago, I was a fan of his work.
it would have been cool to see him get his like time in that weird sandbox yeah so that's that's my
big one well then i will keep on the dc mark i'm not going to go in any real order then of these
let's uh but i'll go with like the 10 that i really would like to talk about which would be
the man of steel part two then okay because a that's a sequel that's the topic we have done the
topic i didn't realize it was man of steel too so i didn't actually know much about what the plan
plot was for this. So I copy it and pasted it down. Brainiac was going to be in it. And one of the
main plot ones that was going around was that Brainiac would be targeting Earth as a specimen
world, potentially shrinking the city and exposing Clark's crisis of identity. And Lex was
going to be in there to manipulate fear and geopolitics. Supergirls introduction would have been in there
to expand the Kettonian legacy and complicates like public sentiment and the Intendal Ketonal
Correction that everyone was talking about, you know, a clear articulation of Superman's hopeful ethos before the cosmic escalation.
Did you actually want this man to see, too?
Christopher Macquarie, I think, was attached.
Christopher McCquiry, Matthew Baum, were the two top contenders.
I love the idea of Henry Cavill getting his time to be the character beyond the Black Adam post-credit scene.
Sure.
Like, I would have loved to have seen a full movie where that arc got to play.
I do think we rushed into BVS.
definitely rushed into Justice League.
I definitely think Henry Cavill did not get his due.
And what I just said about Zach Snyder, I think kind of applies to this, too.
I think I would have preferred something in between Man of Steel and BVS or even Man of Steel
and not BVS before Justice League so that something like this could build Superman out.
Yeah.
Because it really is like Man of Steel, he fights Batman, he dies.
That's a weird arc.
And I would have loved to see him grow before he dies.
well this this feels like an unresolved it feels like we don't get closure though right and i and i feel like
there'll always be a sentiment that's a big what could have been a lot of these are a what could
have been potentiality and specifically with henry cabal due to the setup due to the public
announcements of him coming back due to him being our brand new superman it seems worse than brandon
ralph only going to be a one-off yeah because it was clearly building up to something henry
Cavill was very vocal.
This sounds like this would have been more of the traditional sense.
Like I've said many times, James Gunn Superman is my favorite Superman adaptation.
There is that part of my brain that does gnaw, though, of going, I will always feel bad for
Henry Cavill.
And I always, I would want, I wanted this a little bit more than I would say I wanted the
completion of Justice League 2 and 3.
I could see that.
And I feel like that with Andrew Garfield.
and I feel like I got a little bit of that with No Way Home,
but I'd love to see like a Kingdom Come years later with Henry Cavill getting to be Superman.
And I've said many times here that Zach Snyder would make an amazing Kingdom Come movie.
And that's how I think we get Henry Cavill to have his due.
Yeah.
Like that'd be amazing.
Would you be able to accept a Kingdom Come Elseworld's movie down the road
as opposed to letting David Corn Sweat arc over the years,
almost like a Hugh Jackman Wolverine into, you know.
I think in Elseworld, especially with how D.C. is built with Earth 2s and all the setup,
it would be a lot easier to do it there than what Wolverine's gone through.
Like Wolverines died and come back and had Logans,
whereas, like, you could very easily do a Kingdom Cup movie and have way more flexibility
to adapt it more directly than try to, like, tie your continuity to get there.
And it's going to be like 20 years until it makes sense for Cornswet's young.
He's in his 20s or early 30s.
Well, the Cavill can do it in like 15 years.
Well, the kingdom come comic, even though this is not the Man of Steel 2 conversation, the kingdom come comic, when I went into that, I didn't actually, it's not the way I felt with Avenger Secret Wars, where I had to slow down and go, wait a minute, I feel like, I thought I could just hop into Secret Wars and it could be no problem.
And apparently some people have, and I don't know, you guys are fucking amazing human beings because I was not able to do that.
it was very, very confusing for me. Kingdom come, on the other hand, I did not get that feeling.
It's very approachable. Yeah, and it takes place where Superman is much older. He's retired.
We got a new era of meta-humans, and they're kind of doing things in a way that Superman does not really agree with.
You got a very aged old Bruce Wayne, Batman, and the art style is absolutely beautiful. But the story is something that I do feel speaks more to Zach Snyder's sensibility.
so I would meet you on that is one where you could do in else worlds because I don't I genuinely feel
like you don't need to read other comics and actually to understand this rather epic crossover
that feels like another earth it doesn't it doesn't arguably have to tie into anything yeah and that that
is why I think it would be better to almost bring back cavil than have David corn sweat like leading
that way whatever like I don't want it to be a trajectory because now they have all the freedom I think
the benefit of DC right now is the openness I wouldn't
want that to be an end goal. Whereas if you had Cavill come back in 15 years, that would be
amazingly boop. Yeah, yeah. Plus, we'd go to see Ben Affleck back. And that'd be the right age.
All right. So what else are you got on this list? Oh, next up, I'm going to stick with Justice
League then and do the Justice League mortal that I talked about a second ago. I feel like that's
something you and I both talked about. I feel like we don't have a lot of crossover in our 10 and that's
what's great about having like 25. But George Miller's Justice League mortal is something that I've
thought about. I'd say like every few months for years. Okay. I think the casting was fascinating.
I think George Miller as a director
is one of those people that
people don't realize what he's accomplished
like he made the tiniest little
low budget Australian
crazy on the side of the road
movie into a franchise that arguably
has the best action installment of all time
I think with Mad Max Jury Road
I think Mad Max Fury Road is one of the greatest
action movies of all time
and I prefer Furiosov too
I love Mad Max Fury Road but even
I feel like he even got better
that's not a popular opinion
I love Furio
I don't think it is as good as Fury Road personally,
but the fact that he made both of those in his like 70s and 80s,
what this man could have done with something like Justice League,
you look at our conversation with Zach Snyder's gods and deities and all those things,
and then you zoom out to like World Building and Furiosa and Fury Road and all of that.
Well, you can do with IP in that world.
I think, you know, having, what's his name, Adrian Brody in there,
having Army Hammer.
The casting, all of it was like so out of left field.
Let me break down some of its information then
because that's what I was typing in as I was here
is here's the cast that they had in mind.
That actually, this was the confirmed cast.
Yeah, they were cast.
This was just the cast they had in minor discussion.
They were actually going to make this movie.
It is wild how far along they got.
DJ Katrina, who I only know from the From Dustal Dawn show.
I don't know him except his look.
I can picture him.
He was who George Clooney played in the movie.
That's who we played in the show.
And Batman was going to be Army Hammer.
That would have aged well.
Wonder Woman is going to be in it.
Megan Gale.
I don't even know what that is.
Yeah.
She's beautiful.
I don't know her though.
The Flash was going to be Wally West version, Adam Brody.
This one's crazy.
I'm actually learning this in real time.
Green Lantern was going to be John Stewart and is played by Common.
Who was an underrated actor, I would say.
He really is.
Martian Manhunter being there.
Hugh Keyes Burns.
Who is Morton Joe?
Ah, gotcha.
and Aquaman was going to be played by Santiago Cabrera
and then other characters were going to be
Talial Agoal, Teresa Palmer, Maxwell Lord,
Jay Barrichel, Iris Allen, Zoe Kazan
and the WonderTones are going to be in there
didn't have confirmed casting
Wally West's kid was going to be in there
and yeah, I don't, do you know what the plot of this movie is?
Nope, I know that Jay Barakal has done occasional interviews
and mentioned it but even everything is very under wraps
there is a shot of wardrobe test
there's a picture of them in costume
and that's like the closest we've gotten
any sort of look and that was
I actually, we debuted that image on Collider Heroes
back when I started my career way back in the day
so like this has been something I've thought about
all the time and I love the director
so this is something I wish we could see
yeah let me look at what the plot of this movie is
this sounds so interesting to me
I could stay forever on this one movie
with you. It's fascinating
it's fascinating because it wasn't just a speculation
it was being made
this was happening
okay
so I got a small little breakdown here
small little breakdown
here
Justice League Mortal begins
with the superhero team already formed
including Superman Batman
Wonder Woman the Flash
Green Lantern Aquaman
and Martian Manhunter
privately
Batman has created a satellite
system called
Brother I
that sounds like a very
generic satellite system
that watches over everything
and a set of contingency plans
to neutralize each member of the league
Should any of them turn rogue?
Damn, Batman, always.
These files are stolen by Maxwell Lord and Talia Al-Gul
who used them to launch a coordinated assault against the league.
Each hero is attacked using Batman's own design weaknesses.
Oh, wow.
I'm talking about a backfire.
Superman is mind-controlled into attacking his teammates.
Aquaman is instilled with fear of water.
That's hilarious.
Martian Man enters set ablaze.
Flash is forced into a fatal speed loop
Oh god
Yeah that's every time I hear
But the flash is stuck on some like treadmill
Or and some forever loop
And Green Lantern is psychologically broken
That's weak
Yellow
Super Superman is like mic controlled
And attack a team mates
Aquaman's afraid of water
And everyone has like specific fears
And Greenlander is just psychologically broken
His wheelpower is broken
Okay, he's crying in the corner
And Wonder Moment becomes trapped
In an endless hallucination of combat
So Maxwell Lurdy
Activates the Brother Eye Sattel
satellite turning civilians into
omac drones. I don't know what that is.
A program to eradicate all
meta humans. Wonder Woman. Okay,
we could just stop there. There's like a whole big plot breakdown.
That's amazing. But this
sounds like a wild movie. Dude, right? And George
Miller. That sounds insane. I've never heard that breakdown.
That's fantastic. And George Miller. Like,
this sounds so good. I love
how it's a plan that backfire because
Batman is constantly creating contingency plans.
So Army Hammer's the villain.
Yeah. But Batman's constantly like,
you know, he's often the leader of the
Justice League.
And he's, this is a problem there.
He doesn't trust him and they don't trust him because of it.
And I love that they call it Justice League mortal because it highlights everyone's weaknesses,
making them mortal.
And he's the mortal of them.
Yeah.
That is the mortal.
Yeah.
Oh,
I didn't know any of this until right now.
I think that was pretty cool.
I want it so bad.
It'll never happen.
That would have been a cool movie.
What a special thing.
As soon as we started talking about this, I was like immediately justice league mortal.
But then it runs, weirdly, because of how the plot is, I could see.
Because, you know, while all things consider, Zach Sider's justice,
League works pretty well with only having two movies prior to it.
Yeah.
And with the way they're setting up with exploring their weaknesses, it sounds like it would
have benefited, of course, from having prior movies.
Yeah.
This is pretty sweet plot.
Pretty cool, man.
It's pretty cool.
Because you, I mean, in what, five sentences, you understand it.
Like, in five sentences, you're like, Batman messed up, and here's the Justice
League.
Because everyone knows, it's easy to communicate what a character's strengths are, but if you, if
you kick it off with their weaknesses as part of the big act, too.
and you make their weaknesses the movie.
Yeah.
Fascinate.
They're gods.
You make them mortal.
Yeah.
That's a pretty cool idea.
That would have been a good movie.
I wish.
Damn, that's a bummer.
What's your next one?
Yeah, this video sucks.
I hate it.
This is just going to make me sad.
Yeah, we're just going to rue the day.
All of these didn't happen.
I'm going to go with one that's near and dear to my heart then.
And I'm so surprised that this never happened.
And I found a fan-made poster of this.
I send it to John to use.
Kill Bill Volume 3.
this is a pretty obvious one all right if you guys have seen kill bill one and two i don't need the notes
here if you said kill bill one and two in the beginning of the movie uh umma thurman kills vivica a fox
and the daughter is there and there's a couple plus it sets up a clear sequel there of he she tells
her when you're older come find me essentially how cool it had been to do some type of sequel way
down the road, aged Uma Thurman.
Who did Boyhood? Who was that guy?
Richard Linklater?
Yeah, would have been like a Quentin Tarantino's
Richard Linklater sequel.
Umah Thurman.
Yeah.
Oh, man, that's awkward.
Yeah, and they, and someone was saying,
oh, you could have gotten Maya Hawk to play
at the older daughter.
And someone, who looks so much like her mom?
Someone did a poster that had, um, Zendea as the daughter of Vivekeh
a fox grown up.
That's fun.
I saw the image.
I was like, shit, that would have really worked.
and the sad part is
I feel like there's still an opportunity
for Tarantino to do this.
He just only wants to make 10 movies.
That's why I think this didn't happen
was Tarantino's 10 movie thing.
But he can't.
My feeling is
Kill Bill 1 and 2
in his mind
and the way I feel like
he's really trying to communicate
to his audience,
especially with having the re-release
coming out in December.
He wants it to be communicating
if there's not two movies.
That's a one film.
Yeah.
So he's made nine movies, right?
Because if you get one and two,
he's made 10 movies.
But he's made nine movies.
movies that yeah this is this is one movie two bold it in 20 years later but if he made kill bill
no if you make kill bill three it would be the first sequel he ever made yeah and i feel like it
would be so cool for tarentino to go out on a note of his one and only sequel and to show how to do a
sequel i know that's why he didn't want to do once upon a time the sequel uh but i i do think it'd be
great because that's such an not early in his career but midpoint in his career to bookend it that'd be
that'd be special yeah i mean i see it that's the one i really want all right yeah what else you got
i got a third movie i'll go with my third movie out of two trilogies though okay before men and black
three oh yeah yeah when you when you send me a notice i was like i can't believe i forgot about this
men in black and twenty one jump street almost came together with men and black 23 yeah
which would have combined 21 jump street with the world of men and black lord and miller wanted
to do it channing tatum and jona hill wanted to do it uh i think it would have much better
sequel than Men in Black 3.
I have no problem with Men in Back 3, but I don't think of it.
Like, it's not like near and dear.
And I love Josh Rowland, but like I don't think of that movie.
What we could have had with a crossover like this between two action comedy series that are both really metamodernistic, both irreverent, both in weird tones, kind of perfect for each other.
And I would have loved those two duos.
Like Jay and Kay and Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill somehow teaming up against aliens, Lord and Miller being involved means the writing must have been good.
and they would have had a plausible reason
to make all this work.
It would have revived both franchises
in a fun way.
I think it could have made a ton
of very interesting money
and I think it would have set
the kind of precedent
of like old
TGI Friday crossover TV shows
could have become movies.
Yeah.
Like I loved when their Boy Me's World cast
would like meet other cast
and I'd be like, whoa, a crossover.
I would have loved if action comedy
started doing that.
And this would have been that kickoff, I think.
Channing Tatum said recently
that he doesn't feel like it would happen
because they're too old.
It, because the producer.
There's a producer, Neil H. Moritz.
I think he called out by name.
And he said that the front end cost
because of certain producers,
and he called one out,
are too heavy on the front end.
So the budget's inflated
because of producers,
not even the actors.
The producers are asking for too much money.
Oh, I heard it.
I didn't even hear the producer part.
I heard it was the,
I heard tantam talking about the age thing.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure I heard it talk about it.
I don't know if I'm making that up now.
I know we talked about the producer because I was like,
damn, he's calling out names.
Yeah.
Someone fact-checked me on that.
Channing Tatum talking.
Did Chan-Tam talk about age at all with this or something?
Well, I think that's an ageless role.
That's the point.
I think his role is an ageless role.
And with the way, someone just brought up to me like 20 minutes before we went live about
I Am Legend 2.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, but I feel like that movie's going to talk about these deep things.
I'm like, no, it's not.
It's just another Will Smith movie of him going, please like me.
You know, that's what a lot of his career is now.
Please like me again for the things I used to be.
before i was known for slapping a guy here's what you loved me for remember why you love me
yeah please it's a real desperate here's michael b jordan and and i think 21 jumps
i might be crossover could lean into the fact of how much older all of them are and both will
smith will smith still has a pretty strong fan base it's like yes he has a negative slant used against
him and but he's still pretty famous and he's still
still got a lot of followers.
Jonah Hill, on the other hand, he's kind of vanished for a lot of reasons.
I think would you be willing, as an audience member, do you care enough about that private
stuff to be like, I don't know if you should do this.
I honestly don't even remember the details of that private stuff.
I think he's the only member of the get him to the Greek cast that could come back.
Yeah.
Everyone else did way worse stuff.
Oh, yeah, that's a lot of bad people.
Get him to the Greeks kind of like the worst, like that poster is like cursed.
Yeah.
And a movie about doing drugs and making bad decisions.
Boy, did that cast do some drugs and make bad decisions.
P. Diddy was funny in that movie.
You know, he was.
I want to.
He did say that.
Chantin did say it.
The only thing was a factor.
Yeah.
And what was the producer quote if you have that as well?
So sorry.
You were laser-focused.
But I know he called that a producer.
But the, I think.
And P. Did he talked about cuckoo-oo chicken.
That was it.
That was a problem.
But Jonah Hill, if I remember correctly, it was like he was verbally abusive and, you know, some of the other things that, like, that's different than other things people have done in that cast.
So I haven't heard anything about Jonah Hill being like reprehensible.
So he's just reprehensible to someone he dated.
That's none of our business.
I'm not condoning it.
Give me my 21 Jump Street crossover.
I'm not condoning it, but I don't know anything.
I don't personally know anything bad enough that I wouldn't.
be excited and i think that people need to be able to grow i think as long as i don't look it up
then hey plausible deniability i didn't i wasn't in the room and i do know that i think he's funny
i don't know what he's done i i know he yelled at a i can't remember or something i was watching
baby driver and i i said out loud like what happened to this guy and then i and then minutes said i was
Oh, wait, was he canceled?
Why was he canceled?
He was, like, DMing teenagers.
We're at that point now with people where I go, why, why were they canceled again?
I remember being so bad when it first popped off, but now I can't recall for the life of me.
Ansel Elwood?
Yeah, I don't remember.
He was deeming teenagers.
Was he?
Yeah.
One of the ones I thought it was like he would be really controlling the best of the girl who was being.
No, that was Jonah Hill.
Yeah, yeah.
Jonah Hill was controlling.
No, Ansel Elker was only talking to young girls.
so we should do baby driver too is what I'm trying to say
because he likes to talk to babies
oh you're right there there is some alleged assault in there
Jonah or Ansel Elgort okay but Jonah Hill was
just the controlling it is alleged as far as I know yet
okay who's alleged why you hang allegedly Ansel
Elgort is involved in some assaults
Oh gosh so we can't do Baby Driver 2
more babies
baby harder
look who's baby driver now
as opposed to Kevin Spacey
who's working at the time
babies that's another
I think Jonah Hill was just like
why you gotta be out in a bikini
with other hot
you know muscle guys
which to me is like
you can apologize and like
that's a move forward from
take some anger management
that's not like the other members
that get him to the Greek
Alex's husband talks our way to him all the
time.
Isn't Peter always just like
stop dressing like that, you whore?
Yeah.
You don't know who Nirvana is.
Yeah, see?
Like, you don't know Nirvana
songs.
Yeah.
You said, your sleeves are too short.
And we were like, man, we got to deal with this guy.
And I agree.
Yeah.
You're dressing inappropriately today.
This is an HR right.
We're going to get.
Alex is our HR.
We're going to get you.
Write yourself on.
Alex.
I'm not an example.
Take a look in the mirror.
Why do you hire her to be our HR?
We're also wondering if you two coordinated out of this.
We didn't do it looks great.
The white trim and the white text looks fantastic.
Alex brought us blow.
We're going to do it later.
So my next on the list.
What if it becomes our entire list?
Oh, they can't do this because they were canceled.
Shit.
That is plausible.
Damn, there's so many people on our list.
That's why I can't do George Miller's Batman.
It's fucking Army Hammer wanted to eat people.
That would have been such great foreshadowing for people.
Batman.
All right.
Here's a fun one.
I'm going to do this one just for John.
There was an idea
to take a bunch of horror movie characters
and have them verse each other one day.
We had it once with Freddy versus Jason.
But did you know, and I think they made a comic of this,
they were actually going to make this a movie.
And to this day, I still want this.
I'm not even the biggest Freddie or Jason fan.
Yeah.
But I still want this because I'm a big.
big fan of the one that i want them to include okay freddie versus jason versus ash cool you know you even with old man
bruce campbell you know you can make that movie 100% and you don't need to justify a bunch of stupid
ensemble characters in order to have these two fight each other ash is your main human who's caught in the
middle of this i don't know what the plot what would the plot of this a bit um direct
follow up to because I actually like copied and pasted a bunch of plots but there's something I
intentionally didn't read because I wanted to discover them on air with you. Yeah, yeah. So have you
seen the evil dead movies, the originals? No. You haven't seen the original evil dead movies. Oh my
God. Those are so fun. Well, this is going to be nothing to you. Freddie seeks the necronomicon.
That's a book that can help bring people back from the debt. Okay. To regain power in the waking
world, Jason becomes his blunt instrument, and Ash Williams, boomstick, which is his shotgun,
and chainsaw, he has a hand that he replaced with a chainsaw, is pulled in to stop the nightmare
from bleeding fully into reality. This would have been the sickest freaking movie ever. So right
now, what they have going on with Evil Dead, how do I, okay, I'm going to try to explain
this to you as a person. I've seen the New Evil Dead with Lupucci.
La Pucci?
Lou Taleboochie?
Lou Taylor Poochie from 2013.
That's not the new East Evil Dead.
Oh.
Oh, I've seen that one.
He's really good on that, though.
Okay.
There's several timelines going on.
There's the original Sam Ramey line, the trilogy that starred Bruce Campbell.
Okay.
Then they remade it with La Poochie.
La Poochee.
And then they continued the Sam Ramey stories in Ash versus Evil Dead, the stars television show.
Okay.
that got canceled after three seasons.
Okay.
And then there's continuing the Evil Dead movies, but they're doing like one-offs.
The originals.
No, new ones.
So like the one you saw is a one-off.
Got it.
And then they did another one-off, Evil Dead Rise.
Okay.
And now they're doing another one, Evil Dead Burn, which they're keeping that plot under wraps.
So I'm wondering if they're going to try to be tying it into a big multiversal thing.
Sure.
That sounds dope.
I feel like this is the thing they should do.
That's fun.
This was 100% revitalized a franchise in a way.
And I feel like it would get you interested in watching these movies.
Yeah.
I mean, anytime you can revive a franchise with an inventive sequel, I think that's great.
A lot of people are like, ah, everything's a remake or a sequel.
I'm like, yeah, but sometimes it leads to people discovering the originals.
And this sounds like it could do that.
Well, Freddie versus Jason's exciting.
It's exciting in the way how Alien versus Predators is exciting because they weren't established
to be within the same world.
And then they wrote it in a way that was fun and exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like the comics were doing that with Alien and Predator for a while.
Men and Black 21 Jump Street.
Like a novel way to bridge worlds.
Exactly.
That's another one.
And Freddie versus Jason, that was part of the excitement of like, oh, we always dreamed
of what if with these two going toe to toe.
Yeah.
What if they actually did it?
And then you throw ash into the mix, this to me is so much more exciting than like
throwing Michael Myers in there or something like that.
Yeah, that's a lot of fun.
This would be a blast of a film.
I really hope they somehow consider us.
I don't even know who makes all these movies, but that would be.
my dream.
Actually, out of all these, this would probably be the one I would be the most gitty about
scene.
Okay, that's fair.
I got one that is on probably my top three, and this is the least IP-driven one.
Okay.
And it also involves certain undead characters and also crossovers you wouldn't imagine.
Okay.
Gladiator 2, Christ Killer.
What?
That's right.
Nick Cave, that Nick Cave, wrote a sequel to Gladiator starring Russell Crow.
Who's Nick Cave?
the musical artist
John knows who Nick Cave is
you've heard red right hand like a million
times in movies you just don't know it
is canceled he's not can't
no he's much below he got sober
and he wrote this script he's like
boring but different no no sobriety
suits him because he sounds more like drugs now
uh okay so gladiator
two sends maximus back to Rome as an undead
warrior and ultimately ends with a century
spanning war montage which crow
fights his way through the crusades world war two
and Vietnam.
Russell Crowe repeatedly
rides out of the bodies
of dying men
right into the middle
of scrimmishes
between Roman soldiers
and Christian rebels
and in a 2017 interview
Scott explained the logic
behind this resurrection
telling a YouTuber
that Maximus would travel
through the portal
of a dying warrior
to come back to life
because he's too good
to go to hell
but not good enough
to go to heaven
so he keeps getting resurrected
on his passionate project
to kill Christ
would he
I want it so bad Greg
would it have been called
Gladiator 2
Christ killer
gladiator 2
colon christ killer it is ruffle crow trying to kill christ and i want it more than most things there's
no way that would have ever been i want it so bad there's no way that would have been so the amount of
drugs someone has to stop doing to write this script and be like this is it this is where i'm trying to get
hot yeah you know what i can't do that but i can do this and like the idea of a major sequel to a best
picture-winning movie being like
a movie that is so blasphemous
to so many people. But also it's like
the opening montage of Wolverine, but
with Russell Crow coming out through bodies
as they're dying as a commentary and
anti-war as a gladiator, trying
to kill Jesus? I mean, the movie does sound
awesome. It sounds amazing. It sounds really
cool. And the fact that Ridley Scott
and Russell Crow get asked about it for like 15
years. If I ever interview either
of them, that's all I want to know. Have any of them showed
any peculiar interest
in it? Russell Crow has been like, we can't do
that and really skaggy's being like no it's insane like both of them have just been like yeah it exists
apparently you can read the whole script i have plans this weekend i like gladiator two
not as much as christ killer which is this idea this idea sounds fucking gnarling all war as a commentary on
like war being like impotent i don't know if it should be a part two though yeah i mean it's based on a
there's a story like corsa or something like this classic immortal warrior idea and they kind of
tied that into this i feel like they could have been a three or four
I want this as a franchise.
I'm treating this as serious as possible.
Yeah.
So didn't it cave.
This could have been a 3007 page script.
I feel like if you leaped right to part two with it, it's a little much.
But if you did a three or four,
and then where they're fucking desperate to keep this franchise going.
You do a gladiator two.
That's more linear.
Yeah.
And then this is the Freddie versus Jason versus Ash.
You bring in Jim Caviesel.
He's Jesus.
Oh, that would be cool.
That would have been pretty sweet.
Put it together.
Milk gives them direct the hell of it.
You would have made a pretty good.
Haxall Ridge meets Gladiator.
But I do it.
Dude, I want.
It's too blasphemous for Mel Gibson's taste.
No, he wouldn't do it.
But I want, it's like Celebrity Death Match.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would have been amazing.
I, dude, it could make a billion bucks.
All the Catholics and Russell Crow.
And then it's like that Pope movie he did.
Yeah.
That would tie in.
Yeah.
This is my Christian crossover.
And release it on Easter because it's about resurrection and shit.
We have 21 streamlamps.
Stream lives?
Um,
Super Chats.
And that's combining?
Okay.
That's good.
So that's what I want.
Maybe most.
All right.
Well, let's talk about a couple ones then that I feel like people fully expect us to talk about.
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to combine two right now.
I'm going to go through the Gambit.
I'm both in them really quick.
Okay.
The Gambit movie.
No, actually.
That might happen.
I wanted to talk about the Spider-Man sequels that never were.
Yep.
So we have, of course, in the thumbnail, the Amazing Spider-Man 3, which would have built up to the Sinister 6 as established by the ending of Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Norman Osborne was expected to return as a cryogenic head preservation and body regeneration.
Think Futurama, but cooler.
Of course, we saw that who was playing Mary Jane?
Who was that actress?
She's in the Divergent movie, Shailene Woodley.
She was supposed to be in it.
They shot scenes with her that were ultimately removed.
There was a deleted scene where Andrew Garfield acted his ass off at the cemetery with his dad coming back, being like, I never died.
I was a spy.
That was a movie.
Emma Stone was discussed as returning as a clone, symbiotingge return.
Then you had...
They did in the ultimate comics.
she came back as carnage so that was so hot so hot and she's so popular now and dennis leary
talked about maybe coming back at the they speculated him being a clone as well this was of course
they say like i was canceled dude uh part two not doing so well but it sounds like it was a petty
grudge held against you know andrew garfield for what the shady they literally canceled it on stage
because he was like yeah that the whole thing because he refused to show up to a meeting or some shit
right so yeah they had that one and then of course the
other sequel, which Mattson Tomlin has been proactively going out there saying he would love to
write this. Yeah. And I'm going, yeah, buddy, go for it. Write the graphic novel. And then let's just
make that Spider-Man 4, the Sam Ramey version, which you can find countless videos about it at this
point, which was going to feature John Malkovich as vulture. Felicia Hardy was attached to
was a
Felicia Hardy was attached
and Hathaway
was attached to play
Felicia Hardy
before she was
Catwoman
she was Black Cat
and they were
going to have a
Mysterio cameo
from Bruce Campbell
establishing that all
his cameos
and one through three
were all Mysterio
of course
have a reconciliation
with Peter and MJ
I feel like
everyone's champion
okay
let me take a boss
back
a step back here
if anyone
deserves the sequel
it's Andrew Garfield's
100%. That's the one that deserves
the sequel.
The one I really want, though, is the part four
of Sam Ramees personally
because it just seems like
it's possible. I feel like we still could do it.
It's right on the cusp.
Do you know what I would do?
You put them in, I mean, they could do both
and now.
Make a movie one.
That inner cuts between the two?
Yeah, basically, I'd have them go back
through their respective portals at the end of no way home
and we see the journey of what Spy
man forward been Peter Parker Toby McGuire goes back and has to reconcile with being a married man and has all the things after the consequences of the trauma of what he just went through seeing off for Malina again so he's going through the consequences of no way home and that's what brings us to an older you know Malcovich vulture and black cat all those things and then Andrew respectively goes to his universe where he's dealing with the consequences of I was able to save like his Mary Jane my Gwen Stacy I was able to save someone so now he reconciles all that rage that he talks about no way home so he's going back to his universe maybe that's
That's when you bring in the venom symbiate.
And instead of it all being clones, you use the venom symbiote in his world.
We finally get the venom movie we want.
At the end of that movie, it ends on a cliffhanger setting up a Sinister 6 movie.
And you bring in Tom.
That way you get the giant movie Sony wanted that's multiversal.
But you also get this grounded brand new day.
So we basically get our cake and eat it too, where you get a grounded street level Tom Holland trilogy.
We get a multiversal Spider-Man duo that could lend itself to be a trilogy.
And that way you get the Sinister 6 movie that Drew Goddard wrote like 15 years ago to button it all together.
yeah
it's what I'd do
give me the keys
I don't know
it's not creative enough
that's true that's true
it's pretty when you're lacking imagination
that's true there's no
I just thought of it
so that's what I do
but yeah I could probably flex it out
yeah
we can do a little more
second draft
we can cut the side of the stream
yeah yeah we should
I should be ashamed
I feel like you'll be too embarrassed
yeah in 10 minutes
I'll be like
Greg cut it
cut the feet
delete this whole
this whole stream
but I think it'd be great
that's pretty cool
it's what I'd do
what I want to do
is bring on a very
sad, man. Michael, I want him to rant for 30 seconds about the Ben Solo movie. Oh, yeah. Our Star Wars
aficionado, who everyone forgot, you dare touch that lens. We go out of focus. Everything's
screwed. Ben over here. Bend over here. Hello, internet. Hello, friends. It's been so long.
Hi, Coy. Hey, man. Hey, how you feeling? How you doing? Hanging in, hanging in? Like Spider-Man.
You heard my pitch. I really, really liked it, except where's Ben
Solo. Where did he go?
Ben Riley did it. If Palpatine somehow returned, why can't Ben Solo somehow returned?
That's been a question. I, for one, as a famous actor, when I read a script, and I see that
I'm the star of that script, and then I need to tell the public that I want that script made,
I am going to tell them, it is the greatest script that I've ever read. That's the number one thing
that's the move. I think, honestly,
Luke, Uncle Luke, trying to murder me, is going to set off some trauma.
Perhaps.
Should he be blamed for the war crimes and all the awful things that he did?
I mean, with a barrel chest, that's how they describe him.
Barrel chest?
On the internet.
Oh, Adam Driver?
Yeah.
Oh, that is a barrel chest.
Oh, it's a barrel chest.
That is a husk of a man.
That's one of the chunkiest boys I've ever seen.
The best case for increased funding to the Pentagon.
100%.
That is a grass-fed boy.
The scientific, how do we barrelize the chest?
It's a gravitational pull.
It's the death star of chest.
It is, forget the death star.
It's star killer base.
He's got a pair of death stars.
Yeah, they got, yeah, that's exactly sorry, Hosni and Prime.
Oh, look, here's how you think about things.
Wow, this is really well thought out.
Is this chat, Jepete?
No.
No, it gets so organized.
It's a bunch of coffee and paste.
of a bunch of different Google. Oh, that's great. So my pitch for Spider-Man. Okay. So first off,
I think that we start off Tom Holland, his appendix rupture. Okay. No insurance. No one knows who
he is. Nobody knows who he is. Crazy. So he has to go to the ER, which is what people do when they
don't have insurance and they're going through a medical crisis. Right, right, right. Then they put
them under to remove the appendix. But here's what we don't realize. The appendix is actually
exactly because we didn't see
when the spider bit him. Yeah, we don't know his
physiology. That's where the spider bit him. Okay,
understood. They take out his appendix.
Tom Holland. No powers.
No power. Spider-Man, no more. But the appendix
has powers.
Spider appendix.
All right. I think it writes
itself. If anyone
wants to know why I'm not on the check out,
you just found out one.
Yeah, I think Michael's
stuck in a certain mindset.
Will I see you for fallout?
Yes, you'll see us for Fallout, yeah.
Will they see me for fall?
They'll see you.
They'll see you.
That's how I'll do it on camera while it's live.
All right.
Contract, verbal agreement, California legally binding.
I'll see you in court.
That's good to see you, Matt.
All right.
That was your, that was your Spider-Man 4-3.
Yeah.
And my next one, should I do big franchise?
a franchise or more of a deep cut? What do you feel?
Let's go deep cut then. Okay. I love, love, love Slaughterhouse 5. Have you ever read
Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse 5? What is that? It is a very irreverent time travel,
sci-fi-based, semi-autobiographical, very important story about war. So Kurt Vonnegut
survived being a prisoner of war in, I believe it was World War I, might have been World War II,
I'm bad at time. And Slaughterhouse 5 is a movie.
that was his coping mechanism,
that was his way of describing
the atrocities of war,
but he didn't want it to be a drag.
He's a satirist.
This is one of the great satirists
of American literature.
So instead of making it a linear story,
he made it a time travel alien commentary
on the atrocities of war.
And if that doesn't sound like
an incredible vehicle for Guillermo del Toro
and the great Charlie Kaufman,
I don't know what does.
One of the great American novels
and two of the great filmmakers of our time
wanted to make Slaughterhouse 5 for like 10 years
and it never got off the ground.
They had a movie in 1972.
I'm sure the tech was good then.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm a big Vonnegut guy.
And I like Charlie Kaufman quite a bit.
Adaptation, I think is pretty genius.
I even like Sederdoke, New York.
I think he's one of those great existential writers.
He's very introspective and he causes a lot of like actual after film thought.
And GDT doing special effects would have been cool.
So Slaughterhouse 5's on my list.
What's my favorite book?
Is it?
Did I describe it adequately?
I believe so. It was World War II.
Thank you. I'm so bad at
linear time. Slaughterhouse 5, the
1970s movie, has an 82% on Rotten Tomatoes.
It's from the director of Butch
Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and the Sting.
I should give that a chance. Holy shit. I just judged
it harshly. That's crazy.
Wow. I love that book
is so formative. It's so good.
So we don't need your movie.
You got books. It happened in the 70s.
Also, people read all the time now, so people
will obviously discover this story. I have read
half a chapter of Frankenstein
for the past month.
And let me tell you,
it is the most exhilarating read
I have ever encountered.
How's the fire?
The fire.
Learning about fire is just incredible.
Two pages of wood
and fire.
Do you feel like you're there?
We'll get there soon, Alex.
I went fast on that one.
No, not yet.
We're in the same.
the end game now. No, no, we will. Watch this. I'm going quicker. Okay. So, since you said the fire
rises, let's talk about the center of this thumbnail then. The original plans for Dark Knight 3.
Now, are these plans verified? Because I've heard so many different things. It's, uh, I pulled it together
a combination of many of the things that they had originally had in mind here. Okay.
And this might be the one thing I actually forgot to mark down in my specific notes here one second.
What were the things you heard?
You Vamp for a little bit.
I heard that it was going to be
Heath Ledger coming back as a supporting role
in the third film.
It would have been more of a...
Oh, I found my nose fine.
Did you?
Yeah.
And it would have been more of like a setup for,
like a bigger crime team,
but that felt so unfounded.
I couldn't find a single source.
What did you find?
What they were originally planning on doing
is you're right about that
when it comes to he was supposed to return
as like a major presence.
Um, the other thing that I read last night was that after, you know, uh, ground zero happens
in Gotham that he would kind of form his own subsection Joker and create like his own
little chaotic section that they have to contend with.
So you have like a true anarchy in the center when you have like Bain doing his own
thing on the side because the original adaptation of this was going to follow a little bit more
close to the nightfall Bain storyline.
Okay.
and so yeah they they had it as like joker essentially acting as an agent of chaos to gotham's soul
and he would was reportedly he imagined joker acting almost like gotham's dark
conscience in a way of course heath ledger was expected to return because he signed off for multiple
films for this we would have explored his time in arkham a little bit more as well this sounds
and you know because like the other thing that people keep talking about is was the riddler supposed to be
in this movie and like the big fan casting was i remember when dark i came out of rome
rome williams i've heard ron williams and leonard ocaprio interesting because robin's they just
did a movie together uh insomnia in between some batman no you got your timeline way off there
buddy is it yeah i thought no one did insomnia no memento then insomnia but oh before batman begins
yeah well that means he knew robin william yeah he knew robin williams definitely could have been
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, this was, this, to me, is, it's sad because this is a sequel that obviously will never get.
There's no, there's no reality where we're ever going to be able to get this unless we live in some type of alternate dimension where Heath Ledger does live on.
Ultimately, I guess he does have like, he does have his storyline completed in the dark night.
Sure.
When we rewatched it, the video just went up this morning, when we watched it, I did find it a bit odd how Joker's not even mentioned once, though.
And Rises, yeah.
So I feel like it does kind of eliminate even the presence of Joe, like that off-screen presence that Joker could have had.
I, a version of my research was like, there were a ton of movies that Heath Ledger was going to make.
And that was actually, like, one of the directions I was going to take is, is that.
And that's what I realized, like, all of the things.
things I could find on the Joker's
continued presence. It feels like
Nolan's never talked about it. It feels like Goyers never
talked about it. It feels like Jonah Nolan's never talked about it.
So I'd love to know what it could have been, because I know
he was going to do Queens Gambit with
Ellen Page, now Elliott Page,
but they were going to team up. He was going to direct
a Queens Gambit movie, which ended up being
an audio trailer joint turned into a show.
He was going to do what
Aaron Sorkin ended up doing with
Trial of Chicago 7. He was actually
meeting with Aaron Sorkin. He was meeting with
Spielberg the day he passed away.
So Heath Ledger literally had like 10 projects.
He was going to play Jeff Buckley.
I think he wanted to do a Nick Drake biopic.
But yeah, like the Heath Ledger, what could have been, even Parnassus completed by Heath Ledger, like, that's a video I would make just because of like the wound that is him missing from film.
But I think the pop cultureist of all is like what the Joker would have been.
Well, in my research for this, I was listening to interviews with him.
And he said that he actually had a pretty clear understanding of how to do the character within five minutes.
It's incredible.
said when he was approached for it he had a really kind of vivid idea of what to do yeah and
that's cool because the whole performance feels so instinctual and intuitive yeah and it show so when he
said that i believe that because of how free his performance is in that movie but yeah the the movie
part of the part of the rumor speculation too was that he would be a kind of like how that deleted
scene is in the batman yeah a bit of a silence of the lambs type of character who batman
does go-to at one point and with adapt in the nightfall story where bain would break out prisoners
of gotham directly so it might not be exactly this like tally all gul thing but being going and they're
starting his own type of revolution and so that's why i meant by you have like two opposing sides of a
revolution happening at the same time yeah that would have been neat that would have that would have made
me a happy camper and it just does remind me of what we lost there and the really because it is i still
And now because we watch The Dark Night again, and I've thought about Heath Ledger, like, every single day throughout the day for weeks now because of that.
I've lived last 20 years, Big.
Yeah, right.
The reason I do what I do.
It is definitely one of the best performances of all time.
It's my favorite.
If not the best, it's like one of the undoubtedly best performances of all time.
Yeah.
I think he as an actor, like, not a bad performance in his filmography.
And the amount of impact Heath Ledger had, like he, his first movie came out the year before Bush was elected and he died before Bush left office.
Wow.
I heard he only had like 25 minutes of screen time in that movie.
Yeah,
wouldn't surprise me.
It's just such presence too.
That actually surprised.
I'm like,
what?
I thought he had.
I'm shocked to learn that.
Yeah,
but I mean,
so much.
I haven't counted him.
I'm like,
can that be right?
The impact,
dude.
It's crazy.
25 minutes in like a two and a half hour movie?
Yeah.
Insane.
Because every quote's from him.
Right.
Yeah.
Like that was the marketing.
That was,
and like when you think of the Dark Night,
you think of the Joker.
Yeah.
Oh,
that's what could have been.
what could have been that's a real what could have been right there uh well i want to stick with batman
and quickly just say because i know i would be remiss if i didn't include it aronofsky's batman
would have been a hell of a journey uh the talks were about it being a very gritty uh year one
story a mechanic alfred bruce wayne um a wakene phoenix batman uh i recently heard an interview where
he was saying darren aronovsky was going to direct it and darren aronovsky did press for caught stealing
i think it was a josh horwitz interview where he said um a big example of
of the issue I had with trying to make the film is I wanted Joaquin Phoenix, the studio
wanted Freddie Prince Jr. Yeah. And so like, that's kind of not going to be the movie you
get to make if you're fighting to that level. But if you think about it, like, I've always said
the best jokers would make good Batman and the best Mattman could make good jokers. And I think
that is so true of Joaquin Phoenix, clearly. I think that's so true of Heath Ledger. I think
that's true of Jake Gyllenhaal. I think it's true of Michael Keaton. I think there's a really
cool two sides of a coin. And I think it would have been really cool to see Joaquin Phoenix as like a
year one joker i mean a year one batman and uh i would love to see that gritty um take we never
will but like a a 50 million dollar logan style batman year one would have been dope well speaking
of batman you were the first person tell me about this after we watched batman and robin so
oh yes i actually ended up watching videos about it uh first i had to watch videos of what went wrong
with batman and robin you know the studios thought they had a really good movie on their hands
like with the version they submitted
they thought that was a good movie
insane how they're from the 90s were
dude how they were like we got something good
it's a big win looking at
dailies going on this movie's going to be a hit
sure is shiny
a lot of lights insane
anyway
there was a Batman 5 that Joel
Schumacher had in mind
I've heard a couple of different titles
Batman Unchained Batman Triumphant
and this one was going to include
Scarecrow as a person who's terrorizing
Gotham. Scarecrow is still a villain who I feel has not been utilized properly yet.
And Bruce Wayne with fear toxin, triggering hallucinations of past rogues. That's how you would get
Jack Nicholson's Joker back. This one's wild. Harley Quinn was going to be reconceived as
Joker's vengeful daughter seeking retribution. How awful. Very Tim Burton. That just strips away
But this would have been Schumacher movie.
Oh, that's true, too.
But apparently the climax would have reportedly put Bruce in Arkham, Insylum,
confronting his psyche and legacy,
which is something Schumacher was very interested in
that they never really got to explore.
Batman forever, I would love to see that cut.
Yeah, supposedly that's a big thing that was removed from it,
was exploring more of that psychological aspect.
And yes, it was an attempt to steer back Batman and Robbins camp
toward a little bit more psychological drama.
So this sounds a little bit more like what Joel Schumacher was known for outside of the Batman.
Right.
Or what you feel like he was doing in Batman Forever, even.
Or like what he was intending or wanting for in Batman Forever, right?
With like having the hottest psychologist ever and exploring Batman Psychos, Jesus, the hottest icon.
The hottest.
There's so much like Freudian commentary on like the lust and all the tight shots.
Yeah.
I don't describe it.
I said that Batman Forever feels like it's trying to touch me.
It does.
The movie.
It's a real like provocative.
You hold those McDonald's a couple of little different now, don't you?
Yeah, this is one where I'm glad we didn't get it.
It sounds like it would have been better than Batman or Robin.
I'll say that.
I feel this would have been a better note for Joel Schumacher to go out on.
Still doesn't sound like a good movie.
I do not have faith.
This would have been a good movie.
But it sounds like it would have been better than Batman and Robin.
I'm going to quickly do a few.
I'm going to quickly do my next few so we can make sure we get to them.
But the quick one I do want to mention is we almost had a scream three where Matt Lillard came back.
Oh, hell yeah.
So Matt Lillard, the original script
to have been Mocker coming back from the dead.
He even tweeted,
it was just a TV, right?
You'd think he'd survive
and focus on a Heather's S school massacre
orchestrated by ghost-faced trainees
working on the infamous ghoulor
killer's ghoulish appearance.
Craven reportedly threw those pans out
because of Columbine.
So what would have happened as Scream 3,
which lined up right around
when Columbine actually happened in real life.
They were going to have like a bunch of ghost face
in a school, and then
it lined up a little too much
with what we've done.
dealt with for the last 26 years in real life i'll say i'll say i'm never really been as big of a fan
of the idea of matthew little coming back as what seems like 99% of the scream fan base scream is
undoubtedly my favorite horror franchise the only scream movie i do not like is scream three it is
easily the weakest of the screams only one i genuinely do not like yeah that sounds like a much
what a cool way to make a trilogy arc and it would have yeah would it perfectly tie
it ties into the Jamie Fox like movie lore and him coming back for the trilogy it would
have probably ended that era of scream which then would have allowed for the four or five
reboot which were great yeah but I'm really curious if they use any of that for what this
next screen is going to be with Lillard he's such a good actor he's such a good dude that I'm
very excited for the experience of why he wanted to come back but I would have loved that
scream three then I'll throw in there we almost had a scream seven oh with Melissa
Barreira and General Tegas, and it would have been a sequel that perhaps one day they will find
some weird resolution to bring them back.
That is something that I'm on, I will be there opening weekend for whatever the screen
movie is.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm still definitely on the fence about it and because it does feel like, you know,
a rise of Skywalker reaction.
Yeah.
In a way.
Bring everyone back.
No, go show up.
Bring them back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it feels that way.
but clearly five and six were setting up a big arc for her.
And six,
six is ending,
especially set up an arch for her.
And I thought it would have been so cool.
It seemed like they were sending her out
to become the ghost face killer,
which would have been so different
than the Sydney Prescott journey.
Exactly.
And I would have loved to see like nature,
nurture out of that.
Yeah.
So we're not getting that one, though.
We're getting something else.
We'll see.
That people seem excited for.
And there's some other alt ones here.
Man, there's so many to go through here.
Okay.
thinking about what we should talk about
we have to discuss
Zach Snyder's Justice League part two and three
I feel like we would be remiss if we didn't
and least broach it
so here's the shortest summation
I could find out of two or three
here we go
after stepping wolf's defeat
Darkside arrives
he has a planet called salvation
where all the villains are there
oh yeah
first villain he fight
peacemake
Who's been trapped there for years?
Yeah, there's my fucking years.
You're like, why only me?
Frank Grillo shows up.
He's mad at.
Lex Luthor forms a Legion of Doom,
which would have had Ocean Master, Black Manta,
Dr. Poison, and there were others in concept.
There's like storyboards and shit
that I think are like somewhere.
They're like on display.
On Vero.
I think they're like in some museum somewhere, actually.
Yeah.
To aid in the evasion.
Anti-life is tied to Earth and Lois Lane.
Darkside kills Lois, breaking Superman, who succumbs to the anti-life, as teased in that one moment in Zach Snyder's Justice League, and becomes a fucking tyrant, the world collapses into the nightmare's future.
That's nightmare with a K.
Don't forget.
Word.
Teased also in Justice.
We're Batman, Mira, Cyborg, Flash, Deathstroke, and Joker, as Tees in Justice League, mounted desperate resistance to protect a temporal gambit.
Barry time travels to Warren Bruce.
Lois is the key.
But the first attempt is too early, preserving the nightmare timeline.
The resistance mission centers on surviving long enough to engineer a second precise time jump.
Next one is shorter for part three.
Bruce corrects this moment, sacrificing himself to save Lois, preventing Superman's fall.
Wonder Woman ascends his queen.
Aquaman unites the seas.
Green lanterns arrive to join Ert's armies.
Martian Manhunter stops pertaining to be Lois Lane.
and they enter the fight.
A United League takes the war to apocalypse
where Superman defeats
amid fire pits and genocidal forges.
Years later, Lois and Clark's son
often described as Bruce Kent.
I also heard there was another version
where Bruce Wayne and Lois Lane pregnant.
Yeah.
That would have a hot baby.
Hot baby.
He's visited by...
It's a...
Enzel Elkhort's Treaty.
He's been printed on by Taylor Lautner.
There would have been a...
Commissioner Barbara Gordon, who had offered the mantle of Batman.
Anyway, what do the odds this gets done?
Do you think it'll ever get done?
7%.
Do you think a graphic novel could ever be done?
Sure.
I just think that would be...
I don't feel like you're a fan of this.
No.
No.
But you like the Snyder cut.
I do.
So you like Snack Ziders, just to say, one, but you are not a fan of where part two and three of her heading.
I have no interest in a pregnant, Lois Lane of Bruce's child.
Is that the only thing?
And there's so many, it doesn't sound great.
Okay, so beyond that really obvious one where I feel like most fans, I don't care how much you love Snyder's vision, there's got to be, there's got to be one part in your, in your heart that thumps a little bit in the wrong direction going, is that right?
Can I be on board for that fully?
You know, but outside of that, what else is about this is that you're not a big fan of?
I don't like the characterization of any of the characters in that universe enough to have it keep going at the cost of actually.
getting the characters.
Like who?
Like a Bruce Wayne that
uses guns or there's Superman that kills
or a dead
Jimmy Olson or a Lois
Lane who has no chemistry with Clark Kent
or an Aquaman who is yelling
Bia or a flash
who like
Bia.
He's like Howard Dean, the character.
Like there's not any
the characters are
Bia!
Bia!
Bacomian! I like Jason
Mamoa. But
so like
To me, it's not worth continuing in a thing that feels like it's already reached a beautiful point with Justice League.
Well, I'll say, though, is I think Darkside sounds fucking awesome in this.
I think it sounds like the use of awesome in the 90s where it's very shiny.
Like, it's just awesome.
It's not substantive.
But do you feel that whatever this Wolfgang Peterson ones that you were pitching for earlier?
I feel like it would have been like Troy and would have been like its own thing, not this own
thing. And I feel like I got the itch scratched with Snyder cut. Like, I got to see a cool
culmination of this really big grand story in a really wonderful way with gods and all that
awesomeness. I would love the Wolf King Peterson one because I haven't seen that in his vision
of gods and sandal and sword. You know what I mean? So that's why that's way more exciting for me.
This is more of the thing that I think doesn't work for me. I honestly feel like if this was a comic
book, I would fucking love it. I think I have said many times and I get a lot of crap. I think that the
incredible nature of those films
as an elseworld is powerful.
But you can't make
$400 million else worlds
and also have a main continuity.
So this to me is at the cost
of getting to see
the characters represented in the way I enjoy.
So I would not want to see those
at the cost of
the Batman, at the cost of
Superman, at the cost, you know what I mean?
So this is a really cool concept
for, you know, stuff that
is a vision that I feel like has a beautiful culmination with Snyder cut fascinating fascinating
yeah I don't think you are wrong at all at the same time I'd be lying about said I wasn't
super intrigued to see this fulfilled like this sounds kind of cool it sounds like a weird heavy
metal to me I don't know what it is
That's something about those Snyder films where I am often like, yeah, I totally see why, you know, people will be mad at Superman Snapping's Oddsnack.
I, all these things that go against the comic book characters.
Yet, for some reason, I find the choices rather compelling.
And the older I get, the more drawn to it I am versus steering away from it.
I'm someone who wants there to be the Batman and a DCU Batman.
I'm someone who enjoys different takes on these characters
if money wasn't a factor
and the schedule wasn't a factor
if we could have movies come out June and July
both make a billion dollars
and the studios had infinite money
I would love to see it
I don't want to see it more than I want to see
the Batman 2 more than I want to see
Man of Tomorrow. So this is something I'd love to see
if there was no restraints on money
but that's not the world we live in
Yeah. Does that make sense?
But we are playing a big what-if game.
Yeah.
You just pitched, you know,
Jesus Christ,
Star Killer.
I want that so bad.
I want Jesus Christ
Gladiator way more than this, though.
All right.
Oh, you're right.
I don't have the thing in front of me.
I was proud of getting that far.
How many people got Natalie and Brulia just bouncing around?
She's a such a good song.
The album is fired, too.
All right.
Last year, I was so close to nailing this.
And then I tried to...
And I tried again this morning, and I was like, oh, man, I forgot how to do it.
I didn't even, like, get to 100%.
Now I'm at, like, 80%.
All right.
It's the fast part of Godzilla.
Let me just wake up for a second.
What?
What the shit just happened?
We're back live.
Oh, do it.
Oh, too.
all right let me let me let me try all right did they get my embryo get it
honestly we had to we've been through so many computers in the last 10 minutes and like
internet connections i don't know Greg's your new godzilla no no i'm going to i'm 80% there you
got this dumb all right do do dum no just the fast part that's the fast part i'm trying to learn to get
down fill him with the venom and eliminate my other words i'm in him i don't want to hurt him
but I did him in a fitter rage and murder and again nobody will evade.
I'm going to kill them in the balder fucking bodies.
In there, like, a blittering, everything, incinerate or renegade.
I'm here to make anybody with the penefrate, but don't nobody want it,
but they're going to get it anyway, because I'm beginning to feel like a mentally ill
until I'll be killed.
I'm a killer, but then the vanilla gorilla, you're bringing the killer.
But then me out of me, you don't want to be the enemy of the demon
and the receiving enemy with stupidity.
It'd be every bit of me is the epitome of a spitter,
but I'm in the vicinity, motherfucker.
You better duck are you fin to be dead than many you're an enemy.
Wow, that's fucking hard.
100% of you is 50% of me
I'm at the fucking finish you bitch
I'm fatal you want to battle
I'm available
I'm blowing up like an inflatable
I'm unavoidable I'm unavoidable
I'm unavoidable I got a trailer full of money
and I'm painful I'm not afraid of pull a man stop
Yeah I got a pride's like 10 more times
Good circular breathing though
I felt I felt I was like less breath so I would have expected
Okay we're back
Are we done we did it guys
We're back we're on air
We're mostly back
Okay they caught that and hey the lag is fixed
Yes all right guys
What a good way to test it with boring
We are back
Godzilla
than ever. So Coy was telling me
nothing, we didn't miss anything. Nothing.
Coy was telling me about a
not sequel movie again. What was it called?
The last one I had to talk about. A movie
I've been waiting for since 2019.
It was announced in 2012.
It's called All-Star Weekend.
What the hell is this? It is a movie where Jamie Fox
and Whiteface plays a racist cop
and Jamie Fox
makes a whole Tropic Thunderass
journey and Robert Tad Jr. plays
a Mexican man and I want this comedy
so bad. Oh, wow.
White-faced Jamie Fox racist cop
I needed my heart
I needed my soul
All-Star Weekend
It also stars the game
One of my favorite rappers
of all time
Who had a really decent acting career
For a while
He was in Street Kings
and Keanu Reeves
Uh
The cast is Benisiel Dol Toro
Robert Tony Jr.
Gerard Butler
Eval Longoria
Ken Jong's in it
French Montana's in it
DJ Khaled's in it
Jeremy Pivens in it
I want it
So the ones you're most passionate about
Are movies that just never got made
Yeah
Yeah, it's like my what if.
They're not even like...
Well, this got made it, fully filmed.
It's done.
They shot this in 2019.
And they just never edited it together?
It's got a white J.B. Fox and it's 2025, Greg.
Why have they never just put it together?
It's got Brown-Faze Downey Jr.
Who gives a shit?
The Society.
We don't have nice things.
Oh, my God.
It's got canceled in utero.
This is how I get pushed to the all right.
It got a boarded in theatrical room, Greg.
We'll never going to see it.
They shot it October.
2016. What happened to our sense of humor?
October 2016, they shot this.
Unbelievable. Ten years ago.
Anzla Gorge should come back.
Whiteface, Jamie Fox.
I just want to kind of say this whole time.
James Fox is out there in white face.
We should forgive Jonah Hill.
Yeah. All he said was, you know,
you mind wearing pants when you go outside instead of being naked.
What are wrong with that?
It's very reasonable.
You're not dating a porn star.
Anyway.
The surfer element's the funny part to me.
He was like mad at the.
Surf Instructure or something.
The other movie
that I had on my list going.
Here's some fun ones that I'm so surprised.
Dread Dose.
Yes.
We watched that together here.
Love that.
One of my favorite.
Still one of my favorite reaction videos ever done.
I absolutely adored that movie.
And this one was going to explore the Hall of Justice a little bit more.
I don't even need to tell you the fucking plot.
It's Dread, too.
Salt.
Dread is.
There's two, okay, there's one movie that I saw someone ask in the Super Chat, so I'm not, I have a very similar point that I wanted to make for Dread to. Because Dread is a film that was a flop when it came out, undoubtedly. It was a flop. But it's so rare nowadays where we get movies that have an opportunity to grow in the cultural osmosis as something like Dread does now. Yeah. Dread has only gotten more popular. The demand for a sequel has gotten more popular. Carl Urban's only gotten a bigger star. I just, he's, that's the main face.
some New World Combat movie.
Yeah, like he's done it.
The boys and everything.
And this really does seem like
the kind of comic book movie
that we could use right now.
And I feel like the way you get around it
is you just don't call it Dread to.
Judge Dredd.
You could just call it.
First on Dread the next one's Judge Dredd.
Yeah, just call it something else
where it's obviously the fans.
It's a sequel to Dread.
Yeah, but make it approachable in the first 10 minutes.
Exactly.
Where you don't feel like you need to watch the first one,
but you get the same director back.
Everyone involved again.
And I don't know why they haven't done this one yet
Because this is such a big demand film
Like the Dread property has just been dead
Yeah
For a while
Well they both didn't do well
The original did fine
And then the new one didn't
I am the Lord
I'm the Toastika
Yeah
And I am the Rocky Bapa
What are we some kind of Judge Dreads one
I'm the Rambo
I am the Cobra King
Cobra King
What's a guy?
Cobra
Cobra
I am Cobra
Cobra
I'm the don't push motive from the tree.
That poor guy that has to play him.
How's that kind of...
Filling with him, I'm eliminated him.
Otherwise, I'm in a minute him.
I don't want to hurt an...
Fitterate at the edge of tomorrow two.
Live, die, repeat, too.
I don't know why that hasn't come out yet.
Yeah, I realize now most of mine aren't sequels,
which is a funny misinterpretation of the assignment.
It's weird.
When you call something a sequel in the first three words of your title,
Leitha Weapon Five.
Leitha Weapon Five is a sequel.
It's definitely a sequel.
Written by Dick Donner.
Mel Gibson wants to...
direct it. Danny Glover signed on.
Will it ever happen? Not only does Dick
Donner, not only does Mel Gibson
wanted director, Dick Donner wanted him to
write down. It's like, it's the time.
Yeah. So that's a big one for me. That's a sequel.
I don't know if this counts as a sequel. Del Toro
wanted to do the Hobbit movies.
Oh, that's a good what if that we should have gotten.
Yeah, because that would have been incredible.
That is something that I
like the Hobbit movies are a weird voice.
Yes, I know they've grown
a fan base as a play. But
It's like the prequels.
Yeah.
Then they are prequels.
It's like the prequels, comma, to Lord of Rings.
It wants to be like a marriage into Lord of the Rings, but because it's the same director
and stuff, it feels like, and not Peter Jackson's fault, it feels like a lesser than version
of Lord of the Rings, whereas Del Toro would have brought a different visual panache to the
whole thing.
And the practical he would have brought, and hopefully one movie, like the stretching of it is silly.
One or two.
Two movies are Hobbitigris.
And the style look, feel, tone.
the gothic romanticism
that's often
associated with El Toro.
Yeah.
I think that would have been
something really,
really special
instead of discount Lord of the Rings.
I hope his
mountains of madness gets made.
I've been thinking about that too.
Like,
mountains of madness
is something he said
to passion for forever.
Terry Gilliam's watchman
is one of those two
for me.
Terry Gilliam almost made
watchman before.
You want to make a show
out of that,
yeah.
You want to make a mini-series.
I thought about that a lot
in this journey.
Brazilian job,
that's a sequel.
The Italian job sequel
that turned into Fast Five.
Why have we not
done an Italian job sequel?
That would be so good.
And everyone's a bigger star now.
Is anyone canceled from the Italian job?
Mark Wahlberg, Jason Satham,
Charlize Staran,
Seth Gren,
Most Deaf,
Edward Norton's dead?
I don't remember.
It's not dead.
He's doing great.
Oh, in the movie.
No, no, no.
I think they just get him arrested or something.
I don't remember.
In life, I was like he's fine.
Donald Sutherland's dead.
Yes.
In real life, too.
Cloverfield never got a direct sequel.
It was supposed to.
It got 10 Cloverfield Lane and stuff.
There was never a Clovey sequel.
That was supposed to happen.
I love the first Cloverfield.
You'd want a sequel to Cloverfield?
Yeah, dude.
Love Cloverfield.
Would you do another found footage movie?
Yeah, if it was as good as that one.
Oh, Coy, do you realize what you're asking here?
Another found footage.
Someone else just happened to make another documentary.
Someone on the other side of town.
What would, somehow it would like further the narrative?
I'm not Drew Goddard.
I didn't write the script.
There's another monster and more chaos ensues.
No, man.
I think 10 Cloverfield Lane is like the perfect, the ideal scenario.
for a club movie. It is pretty cool.
My movies that never got made
that I want to see David Fincher's Elliot Ness.
He was supposed to, he developed an Elliot Ness project
for like 20 years, and I'm obsessed with that world
and what Fincher could have brought to it.
The original cut of American History X
before Ed Norton changed it so much, the director wanted his name
taken off of it. Eddie Kay, like, he wanted
to be credited as Humpty Dumpty because he doesn't claim that
film as his own. So I'd love to see that
original cut because I love that movie.
Tarantino Star Trek. Scorsesey wanted to make
a Ramones film. Imagine like
a musical biopic from Scorsese.
That would have been insane.
And then my last one was Quentin Tarantino, before he made Kill Bill, was developing a Luke Cage movie starting Lawrence Fishburn.
See, I think he could still do that.
The incredible.
Except Mike Coulter is definitely coming back.
Yes.
As he should.
As he should.
But Lawrence Fishpurn in the 2000s as Luke Cage with Tarantino directing.
Mike Coulter has always stayed in shape.
And for some reason, the one gym I go to decides to attract every famous person who I will never speak to.
It's a very expensive gym.
And Mike Coulter works out at my gym.
And he is looking super buff right now.
I want to talk to him.
But I'm like, I only know you from that one thing, man.
I'm sure that's the one thing you're tired of being asked about.
He's excited to come back, though.
I heard he's in the show Evil, which is great.
Yeah.
But I've heard people say it's a great show.
So I want to watch that.
So that way I have something else to talk about.
That's not fucking.
Just look at Cage.
As goes to look at Jee.
And it was 10 years ago, and I'm sure that's everybody.
Yeah. Okay. So, Tarantino also had a different sequel he wanted to do that you just reminded me of.
Oh. He's talked rather publicly about it is that Michael Madsen in Reservoir Dogs and John Travolta.
Brothers. Yeah, and Paul Fiction. It is a Vega Brothers movie. Yes. I remember that.
That would have been cool. Would have been all okay.
Could have been fine. Between Kill Bill 3 and Vega Brothers movie.
Kill Bill 3. Yeah, Kill Bill.
kill bill three for sure the Vega brothers movies just sounds like a fun concept the fact that we're
getting a Fincher directed tarrantino script next year is so crazy to me well speaking of fincher let's not
forget he was attached to a massive massive sequel and i'm surprised you of all people have not brought this up
because it had been kind of on the top of my list here eighth deadly sin no come on man a brad pitt
movie benjamin button two in utero no no come on you got this it's a brad pit movie on a global
scale. Oh, World War
Z! I wanted that so bad!
I think I blocked it from my mind because I was so
excited about it. I love that first one, and
I love them.
The first one should not have worked.
No, and it's incredible. By the amount of
money they spent, all the reshoots they did,
and World War Z-2 had Fincher
attached to direct, and that
skyrocketed in my interest. I forgot.
This happened. Because Fincher's never done a movie that big.
Yeah. That's literally a global
zombie movie. And
would Finchers
you know
a knack for
grim, bleak
violence in a zombie world
but you're doing a zombie movie
dude that sounds amazing
what that I've been
what weird psychology
would this movie have explored
and now with the
after pandemic
which I know people are like
we want to not remind people
of the pandemic
sometimes though
you got a thing like this
where now is a good time
you do that thing
and see what you can do
with your pandemic commentary
20 years later
it's such a good job
of being a fascinating look at death
and I would love to see Fincher handle a zombie thing
yeah I still think there's an opportunity
to do this yeah World War Z is another one
that has remained popular
oh 100% it's it's kind of and it
it's that's the weirdest thing to me
it has remained a super popular film
yeah if anyone covers it
it gets fucking massive views
it's a super popular movie
it's a great movie made money
we can do a rewatch of that yet
Halloween phone yeah that'd be fun yeah I'll just change everything
we have free time yet
right now this actually now that i think about it out of any movie on this list that hasn't got it
made i understand world war z was expensive but it seems like that paid off right world war z
two should have been made yeah i'd still be there and why it still has not still could get made
it still very much could get made yeah i don't understand in a post contagion world yeah 100
i went to the neurologist it was playing in the waiting room that's evil of them it is the
what a weird thing to do i don't think they knew
That's so wrong.
You mean the movie
where to kill these guys?
You have to shoot them in the head.
And you're a neurologist.
That is cruel.
But everyone in the waiting room,
fucking engrossed.
And I thought it felt like,
what a brilliant idea.
You should have movies
playing in the waiting room
with these doctors offices.
100%.
Maybe not World Warzia.
The neurologist,
but you know, that's one.
And Edge of Tomorrow, too,
is one that is another one
that is also grown in popularity.
And I do understand that
sometimes these movies
that grow in popularity
might not pan out well
because I think sometimes
they wait too long to do the sequel when it's like wait this is growing popularity we should do
the sequel now yeah but that's the but that's not like no it's it's been like 20 years now we
can't fucking do a sequel now well or z that bread pit looks great they can do it and you just let a time
jump happen in the movie yeah oh there's so many more on here yeah my mind hunter if they make a
movie is is online because that show not getting its final third season okay if i'm gonna just
if i'm just throw one more fun one in here oh there's some good ones though if i'm gonna throw
one more fun one in here.
And then we're going to go speed around these
amazing super chats that we got.
Okay.
We could talk about E.T. 2.
We could talk about
Batman 3.
We could talk about Gremlin's 3.
But I want to mention the
Godfather part 4.
This is a thing Klobler wanted to do.
This is a real thing. It was structured
like part 2, where it would intercut
between Sonny Corleone,
who is James Kahn's character,
rise in the 1930s.
Leonardo Caprio was the one who was widely rumored for it
against Vincent Mantini's Andy Garcia from the Oceans movies
that's what he's known for
he's the biggest star of those films
1980's expansion
Vincent's attempt at legitimizing
corrods into a corporate political syndicate
more ruthless than Michael's era
you know now I said this out loud I don't want it
I was like
At first I was like, man, they could have done some right.
I don't even know if Godfather 3 has gotten love over time.
We're getting Heat 2.
That's going to have Leo.
It's going to be fine.
Are you excited about that?
Adam Driver and Leo and Heat 2?
With the guy that looks like Val Kilmer playing Val Kilmer's, yeah, I'm excited about that.
You're not?
No.
Dude, I love Michael Man.
Do you not like Heat?
I think it's a very overrated movie.
We talked about this, and I remember blocking it out.
For a friendship.
I've seen it so many times.
And I am like a massive De Niro Puccino fan.
I had my own cinematic universe growing up.
I would watch a bunch of Pacino movies,
a bunch of De Niro movies.
What's what you like about?
I think it is,
I think it's a...
It's the Freddie versus Jason of that universe.
It's just so unbelievably like melodramatic in a way I do not find appealing.
Do you like Michael Mann?
I like collateral.
Okay.
that's probably his most like blockbustery of films like it's his most like
probably his most normie movie yeah it's like the movie that like regulars like you know
you like casual you mean his last good movie I like Miami Vice and I'm the one person that
likes Miami Vice Joseph Kaczynski's remaking it into a more accessible version I'm very
excited for that too man who's in that who's doing that Joseph Kinsinski yeah yeah the actors
Michael B Jordan and I think Glenn Powell yes I think you're right that's going to be
great. Yeah, and they're still going to use
that Kanye and Lincoln Park song. Yeah,
for encore. And they're going to go get mohitos.
Sucking for a mojito. That's
Jay-Z, don't you dare.
Who did I say? He said Kanye. The other
side of Watch the Throne. They collab
and they collab.
You cannot look this much like Mike
Shinoda and get it wrong.
I bleed it out.
All right. Well,
anytime the internet
freezes. It really takes...
throws everything off.
I didn't even get to talk about
Stranger Things we want to theater.
We'll talk about that next week. It's going to save cinema.
We're not here next week, but we have
several weeks to talk about it. Talk about in November.
It comes out of Christmas.
You were asking, is Glenn Powell, Austin, Butler, and Michael
B. Jordan. Thank you.
Currently rumored for Miami Vice, written by
Dan Gilroy and a couple
other guys as well. Is Austin Butler about
to be in Heat 2 and in
Miami Vice? Oh, my God,
Coy. Because that's about to change everything.
A Butler Gassel. I want to rob a Mikeman.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm going to wrong away.
I'm going to make all these remakes.
Look out, man.
Oh, we make the movies.
Oh, it's cuss you in half.
I'm a young bell killer, man.
Yeah, he's great.
He's also rumored for heat too.
Oh, I'm so excited for the Butler Assants.
Yeah, he hasn't been working with it.
He's in a lot of stuff.
He's a good one.
All right, let's do this.
How many do we got?
A lot.
How many?
Alex, count.
What are you doing here?
This is why Peter calls you names.
36.
She's distracted by her.
Short sleeves.
All right, Alex, timer.
Let's cover the serum laps
because there's less there.
So it feels like we're completing something.
Psychological effect.
We have to do quality.
Ready.
I love to hear it.
Is that part of the 36?
It sure is.
Oh, thank God.
36, so we have 29.
Don't give me sass.
I'll sick Peter on you.
Seven first, then 29.
Don't think about the numbers.
Think about the quality.
Yes, I'll think about the numbers
Okay, I'm ready
I'm ready to answer with such a zeal
Should I just read them?
Who's gonna read them?
Oh, I can read them too if you like
Yeah, John, we haven't heard your voice in a while
We're doing Supras first?
Nope, streams
Streams.
I think we said it like a few times.
Streams, I'm sorry, I'm Octopus.
He's looking at Austin Butler.
I'm looking at a lot of stuff over here.
Hey, we got Stephen, or Stefan, if you prefer,
kicking us off over here.
Thank you for chiming in.
Just booked back to the future IMAX with the release of that and Jaws IMAX,
which classic film, 80s, and earlier would you love to see an IMAX?
I would love to see once upon a time in the West or Towering Inferno.
Big love from the UK.
I would love to time travel back in time to two weeks ago
and actually use my ticket I bought for Jaws and watch it instead of forgetting it
in the midst of shooting something and being like, wait,
I think I was supposed to see Jaws a couple hours ago.
That's my answer.
That's very sad.
His question wasn't about the specific movies.
It was any movie?
What movie would you want to see in an IMAX re-release?
That's I converted for that.
He said 80s, but I think you have for a way.
Since you lack media,
since you have media literacy here?
When's time?
What is a sequel?
World War II.
80s?
80s or earlier?
I'm going to go lethal weapon in IMAX.
I think the action comedy,
iMacs is really special uh and i feel like that movie is so important to me and i've only ever
seen it in theaters once and that was because i i ran a projection booth and i just played my
blu-ray but i'd love to see it like projected correctly uh so yeah lethal weapon oh man no
terminator two why they're not done a terminator two by max that's actually really surprising
terminator two is the the sound the music and the pitcher it's everything the saxophone and lethal
weapon the big saxophone though him saying i'm too old for this shit
On the real big.
He's oversized too old.
He is way too old.
He is largely too old.
Every wrinkle of Danny Glover's 50-year-old face.
That's my answer.
What's next?
We beat the time, right?
Yeah, we did it.
But I appreciate the question.
And back to the future on IMAX, well worth it.
Killing the game.
Highly recommend it.
We got Dan V-900.
Dan V's got...
Hey, Dan, Dan, here every week, and so is Stephen.
Crushing it.
Now, Dan, V.
does have a couple, so I can
read them both. They're separated by a number
of people, but
I'll do both Dan's.
Coy.
Oh, I'm so sorry. Here we go.
Let me pull me in here.
Oh, yeah, we called the chat citizens now. We decided to do that
when you weren't. Oh, citizens
have made a lot of choices when you were. A big executive
decisions while I was out there getting stab in the head.
His angle is way less
pretty than it could be. Yeah, there's some light missing
on John's face. He's too pretty.
Due to technical issues. All right, here we go. So, we
got Dan V-900.
Coy, not with you on Peterson's BVS
because I read this script by Akiva Goldsman.
It's bad.
Oh, no.
Dick, Alfred, and Gordon were already dead.
Bruce was retired for five years.
Clark divorced Lois.
It starts with Bruce's wife getting killed at their wedding.
It's a lot.
It's a lot, Coy.
Dan V goes on to say.
This is a, okay.
Dan v's second thing is unrelated
so do we want that
right now or not
all right yeah talk about the
freaking you're on camera
do you care Alex
now she's been doxed
you're visible
everyone knows our location
and Alex's face
there we go this is a really
this is a cool angle
I was trying to hold a light on John
it didn't work out
I did not really
and no disrespect to Mr. Goldsman
who I'm sure is watching
I did not realize
it was an Akiva Goldsman script
that does tarnish a bit of
my Wolf King Peterson
hype. I think Akiva Goldsman
and I see superheroes fundamentally differently.
That does sound like bummer
city. So if I'm going to say
I don't want things to feel like an else world
to the level of not getting my characters,
that certainly qualifies.
So that does drop it well below
Gladiator 2 Christ Killer, which I think is
the champion of the day.
Sounds to mean like Zach Snyder's
Justice League 2 and 3 would have been
way better than this Akiva Goldsman
shit. Colin Farrell's Batman.
That doesn't matter.
Ben Affleck, as Batman,
didn't change a lot for a lot of people.
He's a great Batman, too.
Just because you get a hulking,
good-looking guy, a good actor to play Batman,
doesn't mean you're going to get a good movie, Coy.
He's no Will Arnett.
He's no George Clooney.
We actually, Lego Batman's pretty great.
On the list of Batman movies,
like that's up there.
Bruce, it's me, Barbara.
Favorite line?
Favorite discovery?
I love that at the first 20 minutes,
you're like, wait, is this movie awesome?
And then about 40 minutes in,
And you're like, I'm having a way better time.
And I was like, you don't know how long this goes.
And by an hour and a half, you're like, please let it stop.
Yeah, it was like, we were struggling the last half hour.
It wouldn't end.
I've never walked out of a reaction.
That is truly the never-ending story.
That was rough.
What's next?
All right.
We'll go in chronological order here.
Hey, gang.
There we go.
This is the actual thing.
If you open up my document, this is the one that is actually at the very, very top of my list.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
Okay, here we go then.
Yeah.
DeMani has this to say.
Thanks for chiming in.
Alita Battle Angel needs a sequel.
That's the one.
That's the one that I think the World War II is probably the most surprising in terms of how much money.
Yeah.
But the one that I think is truly the most championed is this one.
Dude, I would love it.
Please read for some more time.
I interrupt the dinner.
I would be thrilled about it.
Okay.
Because he could fucking make it.
in his like second his bedroom or something right doesn't he have like he has like the whole town
that they shot he has everything they're ready to go yeah that's incredible and that's another one
that has exponentially shot up in popularity it's i don't think it's a perfect film i don't even know
if i think it's a great film i know a lot of people love it but uh i remember thinking it was a lot
of fun but it is certainly something that i think they could make a sequel i don't know why
they haven't done it and i feel like they could make something stronger
it sets up for a sequel edwarden has a cameo at the end to play the big batty
oh i forgot about that yeah it's all i really remember i think it's why i saw it i don't remember
the actual plot or who lives in but i do know that edwarden was set up to be a bad guy in the
second one and it's got a world of a manga to pull from yeah this is one that i feel like
audiences would truly actually show up for because it has become much more beloved
they just cast the girl from alien earth to save on budget she looks just like that girl or you
just use the same girl who's already still
alive and working and doing interviews.
Is her face not? Isn't she
CGII?
Rosa Salazar's face is
augmented with CGII, but it's
like a mocap performance. Oh, that's cool.
They mocapped her and then they
took her eyes and like made them huge.
Keep Rosa Salazar. She was great. I like
that movie. I remember liking it, but I don't
remember the movie. Yeah. That'd be cool. And he
goes on to say he saw Tron Ares in 3D.
He said that
he fell more in love with AI after
it.
Oh, good.
Good.
The propaganda worked.
Best I'm X in the world.
Yeah.
Also need a Roxy stream.
Love her and Tara so much, and of course, mostly everyone else.
Tune in next Friday.
Well, yeah, Roxy didn't want to do a stream, so they do it in a pre-tape instead.
Mostly everyone else means someone's not included.
That's true.
They don't like Michael.
Yep.
Greg secretly hates Michael.
They don't like Michael's essence.
Sigrely.
All right.
Thank you so much, DeMani.
That's right.
Chip CRISPR.
Hey, guys.
Comic question for Koi.
Hey.
Have you started DC-K-O?
And do you think that the heroes who have to kill other heroes as well as villains for the power
will have some sort of PTSD in their story arcs following the event?
I think DC-K-O is going to be ending in a way.
And I don't know this.
This is just me inferring as a fan.
I know nothing about the next six months of editorial.
I think it's going to end it a way that's going to absolve them narratively,
so it doesn't affect too much of the overarching story.
I think so far it's done a really good job having a psychological effect on characters in canon
and the way it's setting up is really smart and fun.
But I think if the book, if an event like this lasts too long,
it starts to wear on continuity and it starts to wear on other stories.
So I think it would be short-sighted for this to go on after the books for too long.
I think that was a big part of Krakawa's issue is it felt weird that it wasn't affecting other books
because it was such a big thing for X-Men.
and then crocoa itself was such a long title it started to wear on crocoa so i think
kko is going to be really tight in its ending i think it'll have ramifications there will be
consequences but i don't think um the psychology of the characters should affect their own books
after the event and the event being a massive fighting tournament of 36 heroes orchestrated by a time
traveling team known as the quantum quorum yeah uh doomsday comes back and he's a timekeeper
and all the villains
have to fight each other.
Oh, cool.
Robert Downey Jr.?
Yeah.
Sweet.
As a Mexican man
in the Jamie Fox Whiteface movie.
All right, Chip Crisp.
Thank you.
Thank you for your contribution
to the Convo.
Stephen is back.
I'm here, Stephen.
There was a rumor for Pinhead
to appear at the end
of Ferretti versus Jason.
That's cool.
Which would have been epic.
Yeah, to set up a sequel with Hellraiser versus Freddy versus Jason, which would have been epic.
Pinhead, I think, makes more sense as someone who doesn't know the Hellraiser franchise, but it's called Hellraiser.
It makes more sense considering the lore with Freddie and Jason.
I could see how more naturally weaves in.
I just don't feel like it could be anywhere near as fun or as appealing, honestly.
I don't know. I think people would mainly opt for Ash Williams over Pinhead.
I think Ash gives you way more to work with.
There's more dynamics.
Yeah, because like if you add Michael, you just have another silent hulking guy.
And if you add Pinhead, like he's the lord of an otherworldly realm.
Like, Freddy might be able to, I think you could make a fun office comedy where like
Pinhead's trying to get shit done and then Freddy is annoying him the whole day.
I could, yeah.
That is more of the speech.
I think that one would actually be a Freddie and Jason versus Pinhead.
I guess so.
It's like the nature of Pinhead doesn't, to me, really lend itself to this kind of movie if you, yeah.
You don't know that.
I, you know, there are a lot of Hellraiser sequels I have not seen, so.
Yeah, and I've seen none of the Hellraiser.
Watch the first two.
I've just seen enough videos and other people talk about Hellraiser.
It's like Lord of the Flies.
The O.G Hellraiser is like out of every classic 80s horror movie franchise, it is the one that lives up to the, like, what you thought it was going to be in terms of, like, being dark and twisted and,
gruesome.
Never seen any Hellraiser.
Oh, Coy, those are your type of movies.
Oh, yeah, it sounds like.
You should also watch the Terrifier movies, too.
Yeah, Tara had a great time
sitting out in the hallway,
staring in the middle distance to recover.
It's a big act.
Every time I walked in,
Tara was actively recovering from Terrified.
She just wanted attention.
It worked.
I was worried for her.
Yeah.
And Tara will do anything to get attention.
Terrell will do anything for a buck.
Tara will do anything to be like,
oh, look at me.
My car broke down.
She slashed her own tires.
Yeah.
Oh, I keep giving myself COVID.
sociopath, that terror.
Just huffing people on the street.
Just reading that air in.
All righty.
After that, we have, oh, the laws that made us with a very generous.
Whamoff!
Very generous contribution.
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you, delightful human.
Chris says, when I was a little boy, my grandfather bought me a cute little toy.
When I was a little bitty boy.
When I was a little bitty boy, my grandmother bought me a cute little.
cute little toy.
Do you know what that's from?
Nope.
Hellraiser?
That is, yeah.
You don't want to know what kind of toy that was.
That is from a Chuck Berry song.
Oh, yeah.
It's called my dingling.
My dingling.
My dingling.
We're back to Hellraiser.
Sounds like I'm making a joke, but I believe that.
It's a French is Chuck Barry.
All right.
Chuck Barry's song called my dingling.
All right.
Chuck Berry is a known.
This is a known
Yeah, a feral
cat. Hey, he deserves
a comeback. He deserves it.
He should do the score for a baby driver, too.
Yeah.
Now, there's the crossover. Get him to the Greek baby driver.
Get the baby to the creek.
He needs some advice from
Russell Brand.
Dan V's back.
That is the future where we get all the
cancel people. It's like cancel verse.
Adam Sandler's grownups for assholes
just like put all the people
Everyone let's go to Hawaii
And make a movie about going to the park
That'll be so funny
Make like a Hollywood suicide squad
Where you have some kind of like
ensemble picture of deplorable people
That you need like only actors
We hate to play
Just douchebags go to NRA convention
They're all just like hanging out
At like a strip ball
It's like you know
Hell with Jeffrey Dahmer Ted Buddy
And it'll be the widest audience
With everyone there being like
Look I'm not racist
I brought my minority friendly
I'm not racist, but I'm pretty glad these whites are making movies again.
Look, I got a brown-looking guy here.
I don't know what brown he is, but I got my friend here.
So he makes up for a lot of races today.
He's with me, right? Tell him you're with me.
Tell him you're with me.
I hired him.
He works with me, so I'm not racist.
All right, Dan V-900's back.
It's same step.
My ding-o-lang, thank you so much laws that made us for spam.
Oh, my God, I forgot.
I made all this shit about trying to find your Instagram.
Then you finally sent me a message.
I didn't reply.
I'm so sorry.
Wow.
Wow.
I just remember right now.
I could have waited until after her and said that.
It's okay.
I say I don't air to keep myself accountable.
It's all right.
Because we're going to move on to Dan V.
Part 2.
I only respond to what is pertinent at this moment in time.
It's a problem I have to.
It's a problem that everyone has with the.
76 missed text messages.
Yes.
I too have issues with this.
John's my favorite still respond
in bundles.
He'll get back to you
with the last five messages
he sent him and I'm always grateful.
I have a fixation like that
where I'm like I gotta talk about
I got to do everything.
All right.
Anyway, Dan Vee, here we go.
I want my nice guy's sequel.
That's one of my list.
The Benioff and Weiss Star Wars
Knights of the Old Republic trilogy
is something I wanted just to get something
from the Knights of the Old Republic era.
But the game was wrong Zend.
then alien by blom camp wiping out three on where weaver and bean would have done it
that is the conclusion of the comment well the blom cam one I really thought the blom camp one was
about to get wasn't it like it was actually about to happen yeah and like so morning weaver
was talking about publicly yeah nice guys too that's just a shame like it's just a crime it's a shame for
Shane. Yeah, it's just a shame, black.
It's never going to come, though.
I don't think it actually grew enough in
it's like, it's definitely got more popular.
It's the film bro movie to talk about getting
a sequel. That doesn't equal the populace.
You said that you said the right words because, yeah, it's
grown in the film community a lot, but
I don't, for what it costs to put
that kind of film together. And it's so
good. And then like his most recent movie is
straight to DVD or straight to streaming.
So like that doesn't bode well for
anything happening. The nice guys is a great.
it's incredible one of my favorite comedy's ever made
easily so good i'm with you
i like it more than kiss kiss
kiss bang bang coy
that's okay
and heat is
has unnecessary dramatic
story lines that weigh down the pacing of the movie
we both like the matrix
Greg it's okay we've got an anchor do we
do we maybe my opinion's changed
we do the rewatch you just shit on it the whole time
quick which matrix is the best
does he resurrection no kung fu
is there a
Spoon. Wow. He just doesn't even
to learn fucking Mary Sue over here.
It's a goddamn little
typing. Gary Sue plugs himself
into the Matrix. Mr. Anti-AI
over here is all
in support of a guy getting a
I'd be the one if I could download all knowledge
to be able to my brain. Kung Fu
prompted the whole time and you're like, oh,
I hate AI. Alex is smart to stop us.
Anyway, what's next? All right. Next
up we got
X, we got, we got
DeMani back again.
X-Men 3 before Brian left for Superman Returns.
Oh, what was that movie going to be?
It was going to be natural disasters happening.
Revealed to be Gene and the X-Men.
No.
What?
Revealed to be Gene.
And the X-Men fight her.
And eventually she decides to leave Earth after regaining control.
Emma Frost was a villain, too.
No cute storyline.
We were robbed.
A true Phoenix movie, which they set up with X-Men 2,
and going to space and setting up the
cosmic side of x-men i had such a special opportunity lost um and i and i think those first two
x-men are really special so uh it it is tarnished by how that i feel like the x-men franchise more
than most is like so many peaks in valleys because i think of it strongly and positively but it did
spawn x-men three x-men origins wolverine uh i liked new mutants more than most but a lot of
people don't like it but it definitely had like a lot of highs and lows and i think x-p3 is a low-low
It's like crossroads with itself
Yeah it doesn't know what it wants to be
So it tries to be everything
Yeah I think they got the worst person to do it
Yeah
I don't think Brett Ratton
This is before he was even cancelled
He just he had never done anything
That remotely speaks to the sensibilities
Of X-Men
Right
It is like no real voice to it
It is like getting a guy who's going
Yeah they got powers right
Action comic action movie
Yeah
It is not something that
He's never done anything
That remotely
Hinted at
having thematic understanding
of what X-Men really was about.
I don't know why he was a replacement.
It was just because he was popular.
Yeah, I think he was just big at the time.
Maybe I had an overall deal with Fox.
Yeah, it was a terrible replacement choice.
Because I can understand Brian Singer
not coming back, but there were other options.
Like Wolfgang Peterson.
He would have been great.
George Miller.
They were ready.
They wanted it.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Damn.
That would have been all right.
We actually got a couple more stream labs in here.
Oh, damn.
I'm going to close them out.
All right.
We got KG
This one, you guys are going to have fun with
Speaking of rap
Ready?
Samma Duma Duma
You heard the man
Speaking of rap
Could y'all give us your top five
rappers of all time?
Jesus
Eminem Marshall Mathers
Slim Shady
The guy from 8 Mile B Rabbit
And McElmore
And oh rap boy
Oh no there you go
Macalmore
Who's or his
His. Let's see. KG says, mine goes five, Wayne, four, Lupe Fiasco, three, Andre 3, Andre 3,000, two, Kendrick Lamar, one, Eminem.
Oh, good.
So Kendrick is looking to usurp with the current run.
No. No.
Uh, I don't see myself in Kendrick.
Uh, man, this is hard.
Tupac's number one for me, confidently.
M&M's number two for me.
But then it gets hard.
Kendrick, I think, has become number three for me.
So Tupac, Eminem, Kendrick.
Four, I don't know if it counts,
but Wu-Tang, like, as an entity, as a movement,
and, like, their impact.
If I've got to pick one member,
I'd say Method Man, but I'm going Wu-Tang as an entity for four.
And then five, only got one left.
I'm going to go...
You know, I don't like party rappers.
Wow.
Some people are in the chat
are going to pile you for one.
Yeah, and there's a big pile.
I think Wayne is one of the best
freestallers because he doesn't write down his stuff,
but I don't re-listen often.
I think for enjoyment, like if it was a party rapper,
I'd say Donald Glover is a better party rapper than Biggie,
but I don't want to have Donald as my fifth.
I think fifth, either Noss or the game.
game.
The game's my favorite
West Coast rapper
since Tupac,
but I'm a West Coast
bias.
Nassir,
I think is genius.
I think Nause is
incredible.
Buster Rhymes
honorable mention.
So yeah,
one of those.
Those four count
and five is a mixed bag.
All right.
And B. Rabbit.
Not bad,
and B rabbit.
John Sina.
John Sina,
yeah.
He's actually platinum.
The Bears,
when they did the touchdown
boogie.
Yeah,
one of the best.
Yeah.
Top five rappers.
This is actually the hardest question
I've ever been asked
That was a real struggle
This is a very hard question
I was trying to think
Of what Mike could be
I came on my answers pretty fast
You did
You were ready
You've thought about it clearly
Yeah
You were at the ready
I was gonna say
I was gonna say
Asop rock killer Mike
LP little Sims
Kendrick I guess
We'll go there
I like that
It's very John list
It's very John list
All right
And we have the laws
Pretentious answers
There's him and him
She easy
Top 5G easy
Okay
Anyway
The Laws that made us
Back in action
No way
This is good
I just read about
What Chuck Berry
I just read about Chuck Barry
I had no idea
My bad
I will limit my choices
No dude you're good
You can still quote Chuck Barry
All right
It's he's fine
He's dead
He did Johnny be good
He did Johnny be good
He's a part of rock
He's the original
Separate the Art from the others
He likes half of rock history and...
No, no.
All those guys are separated.
All of them are now.
It's been today's theme.
We thought today's about sequels.
No, no, no.
Musicians are way more separate art from the artist than 90% of actors and actresses.
Especially actresses.
Most actresses aren't problematic.
That's true.
Unless you're Amber Turd.
Oh!
Ah!
Or Blake Lively.
God.
Yeah, she did something.
Or, yeah, Blake Turd.
Yeah, Blake Turdly.
yeah fucking bitch
I hate her
hey don't worry
Johnny Deft's starring in a new
Christmas Carol adaptation so everything is fine
oh hey hell yeah
and yeah
we can all forget that that was a horrible
horrible situation
anyway
we want to get the Super Chats
anyone excited for some Super Chats
I am I think we're making a good time
or can we keep talking about Johnny Depp
and Andrew Chris Wammoth baby
thank you for the
Super generous chat,
stream labs, man.
Super wham-off.
All right, here we go.
We're going to start at the top.
I got this.
All right, you got it?
No, no, no.
I'm just here to listen.
All right.
Clayton, what's up, buddy?
That's up, Clayton.
Clayton has this to say.
Uh-huh.
Where did y'all stream the Dark Night IMAX ratio?
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a blue race.
And it's, and it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's.
it took a while to find.
I mean, like, come on.
I got you the right,
I got you the right,
do I really need to tell you how we streamed it.
Like, come on.
Hooked up my Blu-ray player to the computer.
ExpressVPN is a really nifty thing to have on the end.
All right.
It's out there.
Can, uh,
help change your geographical location for certain situations when you are
hunting down,
a certain file.
That took us so long that
that was a long shoot day.
Yeah.
Worth it though.
Worth it.
My God.
I got you the right file.
I knew there was a brotherhood.
It took a few years.
But two weeks ago, I realized.
Oh yeah.
You treasure this IMAX quality on the television as much as I did.
I was so upset, dude.
We like, it was so angry immediately.
It's not the real version.
No, this isn't the movie.
Why am I watching?
It's like a pan and scan from the 90s
when they'd like, don't give me the shit.
But no, legit.
The Blu-ray has the 4K automatically.
And that's how it is.
That's the movie.
It's how it should be.
You can't stream it.
Yeah.
You can plug in your Blu-ray player.
Yeah, this is what we do.
We have a blue-ray player here.
Right, right, right, we're getting in the TV.
Watch it.
All right.
Thank you, Clayton, Crook, and I hope that was helpful.
My Unk.
Hey, buddy.
You're here every week.
What's up, Myonk?
All right.
Hey, Greg.
Boy, what's your reaction to the Wonder Man trailer?
Are you happy with the meta twist?
With the meta twist where Simon is auditioning to play Wonder Man?
Were you happy about that?
Yeah, it's like the studio, but late.
Oh, yeah.
I think they shot it first.
I know.
That's why they decided to release it because the studio is doing so well.
We got one.
We got one of those.
We don't need to pave the way.
We just need a follow.
I actually watch the trailer because, yeah,
guys in it so I was already in I have it in the trailer either okay yeah so I mean I
know I was gonna watch it and Yaya Abdul Mateen the second is one of my favorite actors
working so like I heard they're releasing all of it at once are they so I heard it's not
confirmed yet but and they moved it to January right they moved it to January supposedly because
that's how well it did during Wanda vision time I'm so happy they moved it there's so much
December's insane yeah I mean they also know they got fucking like stranger things and fallout
don't compete with the biggest month of the year they're gonna they are going to get like
No one's going to talk about Wonder Man.
And so much of the marking at Marvel is the conversations.
It was very smart from like a YouTube perspective.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, for like zeitgeist perspective.
Like that's how you fuel the conversation though.
And I think it would have gotten drowned out altogether.
Absolutely.
I'm really excited for the show so I didn't watch the trailer because I don't need hype.
I think Yaya is one of the most interesting people I've had conversations about art with.
So him in the Marvel universe has me excited.
I hope it does well because, you know, Marvel TV has.
done as well and I really hope they don't dump it
one week but I'm excited to do the way and I'm
there so I didn't need the trailer
heck yeah gang
I still need to watch the trailer
yeah let's do this
also uh yeah
cool yeah
agreed hitting the time
all right next up we got Jose
don't worry about it
yo looking good coy
Greg when do we get
to see the long walk
wreck you
wreck you
Eugene.
Where's my compliment?
This is why I want to get a pain body.
You look good.
When are you doing more work?
When are you going to cry for me, baby?
Hey, yeah, watch the torture.
Oh, pussycat.
Come on.
Look better with some tears in your face.
Oh.
I like that compliment for Greg.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Very good, Charlie.
Now he feels better.
Thank you, Charlie.
Charlie is always riding for you in the chat.
That's right.
I hope you ride for me when I'm being bodied.
I think you'd like to.
Wait, waiting on it.
You think this compliment gives you power over?
I was born in the protein, molded by it.
I didn't taste carbs until I was a man.
The long walk, I don't know if we're going to do that anytime soon,
because not many people watched it.
I don't want to prioritize something that a lot of people are interested in right now
because I'm a little tired, honestly.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I liked it.
And we're also trying, I had to, I also reconfigure the schedule to take down some uploads.
So, like, trying to do a little less.
And we also have to prepare for the influx of we don't know what stranger things is going to be like.
Like, we don't know when we're going to get screeners.
We don't know for sure we cannot do a four-person group thing.
So then when Tara and Andrew eventually shoot that, that's going to fuck the upload schedule up to some more.
And then they also release VODs a lot.
lot earlier now like predator badlands pot coming out earlier wicker two might come out earlier
as opposed to the normal theatrical windows so we just don't know and that's why i'm like we have to
kind of just stick to some real big priorities right now because we don't know what's going to happen
anyway but thank you for your interest in me crying some more thank you jose very much i appreciate
i haven't cried on camera in a while trying to not make a trying not to be a fucking pussy anymore
That's why I'm going to get a bane body
So when I cry
I'm just making moisture
For my muscles
And all you kids
That's the creatine
Secreating for my life
And all you kids out there
Who feel free to express your emotions
Because I have
Will knock you off
Yeah
It's only periodically
And only when approved by the audience
Also I'm adding MF Doom
To my top five
Hell yeah
All right
Anyway
We got to move on
We got Camp Fire
I'm here
With a double whammy
Yeah double whammy
All right
Hey Greg and Coy
Just want to say a great job
To you guys and the gang
Are you reading the chat?
Coy
Oh you are I was saying
You're not engaging with me Coy
Are you giggling about Coy
You have too much fun over here
I'll look at the chat
No I'm here Greg
I'm engaged
Stop having fun
All right
Hey Greg and Coy
Just want to say great job
you guys and the gang
I don't they deserve
the best example of it
fans since 2021
and I will continue
to be past this comment
John's been talking
this whole time
we don't have headphones
so we can talk over you more
we don't hear it
we don't hear it as much
the funny is that I hear you guys
so loud and clear
so then Alex will give me
a note off screen
I have no one's also funny
is John is only about five feet away
but I'm still talking to Greg
you guys
it's good it's good
Hey, hey, I've been a fan, and great job to you guys in the gang since 2021.
I will stand on this that Andrew Garfield deserves the third of Spider-Man movie.
Would you like to see that still?
And how would you write the story for it if it was your guy's movie?
I wrote it earlier.
Coy pitched a very crazy version that only serves Tom Holland's storyline more than anything else.
It grows the two of them in a way that is guaranteed to make money.
and moves past and through No Way Home's ending.
You think they should acknowledge No Way Home?
Yes.
Like past the ending of their movies?
Yes.
It happened.
I don't know.
No Way Home happened.
Why would you not acknowledge a movie that happened?
I mean, it made a billion dollars.
I mean, when you start the movie, I understand acknowledging it.
But at the end of the movie, I feel like we should just not concern ourselves with the multiverse.
They're not going to get their own new movies without the Tom Holland tie in.
I know.
So why would you not have that open the film, have them go back in the universes, have adventures we've always wanted to see, and then at the end give us a sinister six?
Look, I'm going to totally pivot this question.
Okay.
To say Sadie Sink is, I think, a truly under-recognized talent.
I am so worried she's not going to be used well in a brand new day.
I'm very confident in that film, but I'm very worried that we want, I hope she's a big enough character for her talent.
I think
I used to be Hopper was my second
favorite character
but I'm pretty confident
it is her character
who's your favorite character
you know that's the most cliche answer you can give
11 oh
Joe Kerry is my favorite character
Steve's hair
Steve's my favorite character
Joe Kerry's pretty great
so yeah he's my comfortable number one
and I think Hopper's my number two
who's your three
Joyce
no one says Joyce
It might be Sadie Sink
Oh yeah
I think she's incredible
I think she's not number three
Yeah
And the whale
I felt like she didn't get enough credit
For her performance in the whale
I haven't seen the whale
She's so good
She's so good
Hell yeah
The whale
I think sometimes
Because she's part of the Stranger Things
Young actors
That she's kind of just lumped in there
Is one of them
But no I think she's a total
I think there's a reason why
They've like pivoted season five
Yeah
We should really, like, hyper-magnifier for a reason.
I think what's her name, the other young red-headed actress from It is also incredible.
Yeah, she, like, kind of vanished for a while.
Yeah, she was in, well, the fucking, it was supposed to be a franchise starter with Dungeons and Dragons.
She didn't that?
Yeah, she's like the elfling.
All I remember is Chris Pine.
I mean, he's very attracted.
I remember liking that movie.
Movies so good.
Justice for Sophia Lillis.
That should get a fucking sequel.
That should get a sequel.
Dungeons and Dragon should get a sequel.
It's so franchise.
And it started so well.
I don't know if it grew up.
Again, but it's part of this new era of movies that just don't grow popularity.
There's so amazing.
There's so much coming out.
There's no time for it to become pop culture zeitguess.
Exactly.
There's too much.
Let me see what our reaction got in views.
Seven.
Seven views.
I'll read the next question.
Okay, so, so, all right.
Blind waves got four.
Do this.
Immediately don't, though.
Look, blind waves got 425,000 views.
Ours got 247,000 views.
I'm going to kill you.
myself now knowing
we got half
blind wave
no I'm saying like that is
a and blind wave
when it comes to specific
like the
the more pure geekdom side
I think blind waves
a lot more associated
in this
I assume it's a big testament
like we're not known
for fucking dungeons
and dragons here
and we got 250K views
that's a pretty big
and the movie's great
we should play on camera
and like yeah
everyone's doing that's
the reason it got that many views
is because people love that movie
not because of us
is because they love that movie
that they wanted to watch us love that movie.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, all right, gang.
Thank you for the love.
Campfire's back.
Also, is it possible for the gang
to react to We Live in Time?
No.
Would love to see it.
No.
John Roxy, John Andrew,
or Roxy.
Oh, I don't have to mean it?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would love to see John and Andrew
or Roxy reaction to it
or anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
So actually, that could include you
if you haven't seen it yet.
I haven't seen it yet.
I don't want to.
I want to see it yet?
Probably not ever.
What is this movie?
Andrew Garfield.
It's like a sci-fi drama, isn't it?
Is it so a Julia Roberts?
Oh, no.
This is the...
Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh.
This is, yes, an up-and-coming
chef.
Oh, where they do it?
Yeah, they do it.
Oh, yeah, I want to react to that.
Yeah, that's a good...
And that horse from the poster.
Maybe down the road, I'll react to it.
After unusual an encounter...
It's specifically said, and anyone else.
I don't know if you guys heard this, but Alex just said
they specifically
they didn't say
they want to see you react to it
parenthesis not
you're not as significant
due to this process
as you think you are
like you take that vacation
Greg
not Greg
no homers
no who doesn't live in time
Greg Alba
you don't live in my
timeline
at least
yeah
a talented
we need to get
Alex and Mike now
divorce
fall in love
just for sass
yeah
dude
well
what's next next
on here, man. We got it.
But that's a maybe, down the road, perhaps.
I added it to the list. Hell yeah.
Kenya, King is next.
I just like to say no, it is not set expectations, and I don't want to fight you.
Or you just a green light of your shit and take off the schedule.
No, maybe.
Long walk could be next week.
Could be 10 years from now.
Perhaps.
Dude, Stanley Yelna.
Consideration.
Yep.
Take your money now.
All right.
Kenya King.
Harry Styles.
sure I watched the Blade 2
and thank you Kenya for chiming in
I watched the Blade 2 reaction on this channel
what DC you character or project
would you want Guillermo del Toro to do
his practical effects work
it's not DC I've always opted for
him doing a standalone Wolverine versus Hulk
Hulk the practical effects that's been my dream of his
my dream for him I should say
In terms of a DC character
It has to be a monster
It's got to be like swamping
It's got to be like swamping or Solomon Grundy or
Grundy
Grundy mentioned grondy mentioned
Gruddy mentioned
It would be funny if he did the
If he did the live action like Frankenstein
Brian creature commandos
I got a I mean it's kind of a weird one
But I think he'd do a good hellblazer
Like a good John Constantine
Like the magic and Mrs.
I think you would do an amazing John
Concenton. Yeah, yeah. So that's, I think that I'd
love to see his world building for Constantine.
He would do an amazing job with that. So I asked my answer.
He's already like Constantine's cousin.
Yeah. His Mexican cousin.
I mean, obviously. Robert Tending Jr.
It'd probably be Swamp thing's
the more obvious one. It is the most, but I'm really
excited for Mangold to do it.
Mangold's doing Swamp Thing. Yeah, I know, but
you're more excited for, I'd be more excited for
Deltore to do it. I would be too. Oh, really?
I feel like Mangold, like, he's so passionate.
He was yelling, like, the day that they announced the DCU, he was like, let me in.
Most underrated mangle movie, go.
Underrated?
3.10 to Yuma.
Good job.
That's a good choice.
We could stay friends.
Stay friends, brother.
Okay, good.
Check it in, brotherhood.
I'm X310 to Yuma.
It was so fucking good.
It, like, really is.
Mine is, uh, my personal one's identity.
Oh, really?
I actually.
With Paquent in it.
I actually expected a different answer.
The guy that plays Paw Kent was the killer in identity.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I was thinking of Kevin Costner.
That's my pawkin.
I'm surprised you didn't mention it.
Not my pocket.
Hashtag Hollywood Pawkin.
I'm surprised you didn't recommend
name a different movie by this guy.
James Mangled?
Yeah.
There's another movie.
Walk the line is not underrated.
It's not Walk the line.
The one I'm in?
There's one I know you like of his
that I have a couple other friends
who think is underrated too.
I did stunts on a James Mangol movie.
What James Mangel movie has James,
Night and Day?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's when I did stunts on.
That's a good one.
I got kicked in the chest by Tom Cruise.
What?
in the cafe scene
when they like come and get Cameron Diaz out
I haven't seen night and day
I got kicked in the chest by Tom Cruise
He's spitting my mouth
Did he?
I don't know what you do on weekends Greg
Sometimes you gotta live
Hey if Tom Cruise is spitting your mouth
He said it with a dude's back
Yeah man I got no job
Literally I said it with the enthusiasm
I got to my own stunts
You can spit my mouth
Well anyway
Now you got 10,000 more Thaitans
Every spit
Oh
We got that on live
We got that
I thought Tom Cruise
Matt. Tom Cruise, man. Tom Cruise.
Oh, I spit in his mouth. Oh, yeah.
Eyes by shut, too. That's the sequel.
Tom Cruise spit it on mouth. We got you covered.
I had to bend down for him to do it, but he did.
Yeah, it was worth it. Oh, my.
Hey, guys.
Z short.
Jayden Stevens.
We're at the end of the stream.
Welcome to this point in the stream.
We're in the end game now.
Hey, guys. Love the channel.
Just wanted to show some love watching you guys at work.
Keep up the great work.
thank you. We could riff on this for a minute and a half.
Yeah. Yeah, you know, we think pretty highly
of ourselves. Yeah. We think
whatever you're doing for work, not as important
as what we're doing for work. Clearly, because we wouldn't
be able to fucking fuck off and listen
to something else while we're doing this.
I would love to listen to a podcast while I'm
doing a podcast. Instead, I got to be engaged.
You got to stay focused at all
times. Here we are.
Talking about movies for a living.
We did it.
We did it.
We did it.
Moving right along.
We did the minute and a half.
Thank you, Jason Stevens.
Oh, that was good timing.
Good time.
All right.
We got Dakota Jones.
Hey, buddy.
Effects up next.
All right.
Another regular customer here.
George Miller's Justice League would have been.
That is it?
That's all he says.
I agree with him.
You know it would have been nuts if they put Michael Keaton in there.
Oh, wait.
Let me see if I got time to do just as an opportunity.
opportunity to talk about the original
Batman 3 plan.
Original Batman 3 plan, Michael Keenan
was going to return against Scarecrow, and he was
reportedly eyeing Nicholas Cage,
whose fear toxin triggers
visions. Okay, that one was also going to be another one
to trigger visions of, oh, Joker,
penguin, and catwoman.
Okay, no, this is
wrong information.
Oh, no, I'm reading this.
I was reading this. I was, I was like, this is wrong.
I got this wrong. I don't know
what the original plans are, but he is.
We want to see it.
He definitely was making an original Batman 3 at one point, and then he got slowly pushed out.
And I wrote down the wrong information.
I have copied and pasted over the information for the Schumacher one into this paragraph.
RIP, Marlon Wayans, Robin, and freaking Billy D. Williams.
Two-face.
We talked about that a lot.
Oh, yeah, fucking Harvey Dund would start to be in it.
Yeah.
It's right.
That's where Batman 8.
What am I talking about?
Of course, I read the comic, the M8 comic is all inspired by Tim Burton's original plan,
which was going to have Marlon Wayans as Robin.
He still gets residuals.
He still gets residuals for that.
To this day, Marlon Wayans gets paid for that Robin Rolls.
Oh, yeah, and the 89 comic, they explored, like, the tougher neighborhoods of the lower class
where, with the minorities where Bruce Wayne had never ventured off into.
Yeah, the narrows is, like, really expanded.
Yeah, and they show Harvey Dent.
they lean into the fact that he's actually black.
And we're going to end it there.
Black.
You're going to see.
Well, hold.
Rang the black alarm.
All right.
Don't talk about that.
That's a real racist.
You're going to get really mad.
You're mentioning race right now.
Whoa.
Somebody earlier in the chat, when you guys were talking about Tarantino, Luke Cades,
they were like, yeah, Luke Cabe featuring 200 uses of the N-word.
I cannot imagine Tarantino being like, I'm going to make a black exploitation superhero film,
but it not just being.
the N-word movie.
Like, that would have been insane.
My dream would be
Tarantino writes and Spike Lee directs.
People were saying Spikeley
Luke Hage in the comments.
Oh, actually, that would be sick.
But Tarantino Spikely hate each other.
They've got it.
It's had some very public feuds.
This is the perfect place to be.
It all boils down to the same thing.
I want to say the N-word.
And it gets mad.
No, you can't say that.
Like, yeah.
No artistic integrity and freedom.
They should unite over a matter.
It's pretty much you're just saying you want to say the other.
We wouldn't be talking about this if you didn't really seem to like doing that.
Daniel Son is next.
Daniel Son says,
so I don't know why people saying if Paramount buys WB, they have to reboot.
No, they don't.
Even if James Gunn is demoted or gets laid off,
he hasn't established a villain or half the Justice League.
I think if Paramount buys Warner Brothers, that would be really good for everyone.
Yeah, I think it should be one studio.
Like, all of them just one.
Oh, my gosh.
There's so much money on my streaming service.
And that way we just got to only email one person.
It's on one channel.
That way, where there's a giant oversight where it's just like no real competition or creativity.
Yeah, you just hit up a person.
Yeah.
And their favorites get to work.
That would be cool, man.
Yeah, we just call it the studio.
excellent
no one really know
there's a lot of people doing videos on this
it's insanely how dumb those videos are
nobody knows shit no nobody knows what's going to
it's been very funny to watch people flail
and I think there's one thing I've learned in a lot of
the things over the years is that even
certain reputable
newspaper outlets or media outlets
they sometimes bullshit
too man well they I think people
see enough articles from idiots that they're like
well it's a new story and then they jump on it
and then it becomes a new story because enough people started
talking about it.
Like, there are people
with active grudges
against Warner Brothers
that are like,
I'm going to say the thing.
And then real news outlets
like, oh,
everybody's making money
off clicks.
Warner Brothers does
get tossed around,
oh, huh?
It's literally the most,
like this year's
the best year WB's had
in so long.
It's like Alex had a frat party.
Yeah.
The short sleeves,
man.
HR.
She is HR.
Just to see how far
we can push the HR
limit.
I'd love
like to report.
Or my boss
to HR
I have a confession
to make
all right
It's just Alex
on hold with herself
Aaron
Coval
thank you for
chiming in
Aaron
Aaron says
Hey guys
When I first saw
Dark Night Rises
When I was 12
I've always
seen Tom Hardy's
Bain
as an unintentional
Adaptation of
Ubu
rather than Bain
That's an
interesting idea
I've never thought of it that way
but I like that concept
I definitely think Tom Hardy
just had a really strong vision
for what Bain as a strong man
would be like his inspiration
was so strong man I could see
how you were inspired by that
but I think it was a very conscious choice
that shaped it
but I like this take
you know what I don't like
last night when I was looking at
Tom Hardy body stuff
sure I decided to go
because you had mentioned to me
how he said he was inspired by Bartley Gorman
for the voice. Yes. So then
I listened to a Bartley Gorman video.
Sure. That sounds
nothing like bad. Nothing like made. I'm like
what the fuck is Tom Hardy talking?
Tom Hardy also, if you see Locke the
single can't like the single actor movie
he said that he was hanging out
with this Welsh guy and he was like
I really wanted to take his voice of a blah and then
like a year later he found out that guy wasn't Welsh
so like Tom Hardy'll just be like
I'm gonna do this thing. I don't think
he has a good ear. Yeah I think he
He's got a great...
Matt, he's got a good mouth, but what he's hearing is not...
I'm like, this guy just sounds like a British dude.
Yeah.
Who's fucking Bainzor British guy?
Where did you get this idea?
And then he's doing the wired auto-completely interview with Andy Circus.
Yeah.
And he's answering, and he's like, then I heard Bartley Corbyn say this, and he does his
Bain voice.
I'm like, that's not him at all!
What's the fucking...
Then they played the clip of Bartley Gorman said, and I'm like, what are you talking about, man?
You're pulling shit, Tom Hardy.
Those traps are blocking your ears, boy.
Yeah, he can't hear over the traps.
Sound gets in weird.
I had a moment that you'll appreciate.
Speaking of Tom Hardy's body, I was with a bunch of my friends at the used bookstore of the Iliad, and there's like a whole fitness section, and I'll wrap the story up quickly.
And a book was sticking out, and it was just the bottom of the book and this bunch was sticking out.
And someone was like, oh, we shook that one out.
And I was like, oh, it's a Tom Hardy book.
And it was just his lower two abs that I recognized from like a whole aisle away.
And I was like, oh, I think I love him too much.
I think I'm way too aware of his body that I know his bottom two abs.
Warrior, I think, is one of the best physiques of all time.
Yeah.
I think that's the dream for me.
The ideal body would be Brad Pitt's abs, Tom Hardy's traps,
Halle Berry's boobs.
I'm going to go, I'm going to go Ryan Reynolds' abs in Amdeville Horror, Tom Hardy's traps,
Brad picks in Troy.
Oh, nice.
Because they were like the right volume without being two.
Which actor has good glute?
Carl Weathers has great glutes
Carl Weathers's glutes
Yeah
And Arnold's well proportioned at the time
Cabs
Yeah great cabs
His pecks were too big for me
I don't think I'd fit in like doorways
No Arnold eventually leaned out
Yeah
But if he did that now
People would be like he's sick, he's dying
Yeah
Real
It's not safe
He's not naturally massive
He's fucking dying
What's going on
He's only 230
30 pounds.
Hit to break it to you.
Arnold and Terminator 1 in Terminator 2
are very different physiques.
100%.
That jacket's doing the work.
All righty.
I couldn't find a picture
of Carl Weathers' glutes,
so we're moving on.
Aaron Coval, thank you.
We're moving to Dick, dude.
Dick, dude.
Duck dude.
There's even a duck.
John was also thinking about
Tom Hardy's abs.
Moving on to Dick dude.
Arnold's quad.
and I got Carl Weathers' glutes
and I got freaking Tom Marty's arms
Picture of Cole Weather's ass
All right moving on to Dick, dude
I'm looking for this voice guy
I don't know what's happening
Rest in peace, Carl, we love you.
I like the duck in your profile pick
here. On the topic of never made sequels
As much as I like Tron Aries
I really would have loved a direct sequel
with Sam and Cora
Have Ares be the bad guy
And Tron saved from the sea
of simulation in Legacy's grid
Look, I know
Coy was like appalled
by the Tron
I give one negative review
and the whole internet loses their minds
I don't know
It's like it's fucking Tron man
I don't really give shit about this
I don't know who's going to be influenced by
I feel like
Petron's always kind of been a weird
AI propaganda thing
in a certain way
It was about art made by humans
the grid was a human construct that was the beauty of it it was artistry and computers and i think
perhaps trononel legacy is a cautionary tale about what a i can go too far yeah and then trinaries is just
like and it went too far trinaries is just like we lost the battle be like a pro sky net movie
like what if i made terminator seven from sky net's pov i don't know man i don't know
Jared Leto has some crazy
skincare routine
That man is
Pickled
He does
He does look so young
It's crazy
I thought he's in his 50s
Yeah
Like deep 50s
He looks like creepy young
He looks like 30 something
Yeah
Like when people are like
Oh he's hanging out with young people
And girls I'm like
What's weird about that
And I find out he's like 50s
I'm like oh yeah
It's a little weird
Yeah
Yeah
It's like a grandpa
But decaprio is a
talent we'd like, so it's okay.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, different ages, 25 versus 27.
That all depends on the talent.
It's true.
As long as he's talented.
Yeah.
And he's aging, which we, you know, appreciate it.
But he still bangs 18-year-olds.
You know, but it looks older every year.
The mark of an American man.
That's the dick dude.
If I could have Ryan Reynolds' ass, DiCaprio's taste.
Leigh of DiCaprio's bank account.
Dirk Digglers
Dicker's Dicto
Degraud's standards
for a win
Mark Wahlberg and Boogie Nights
All right, we got
Nick Alexander
Nick can't
We got Dick D'Alexander
I am
motherfucking tired of these
motherfucking rumors regarding
movies just wait for the trailer
or casting announcements
Your rule.
What are we referring?
I don't know what he's talking about.
We were talking about movies that are made.
I think just a general upset at rumors.
All right.
I too am upset at rumors sometimes.
Oh, probably because it was inspired by the Kylo Ren story.
Yeah, but I don't think that's a rumor.
Both the director and actor said it was.
There's no more mystique to Hollywood, man.
We're not helping, but yeah, there's no more mystique to Hollywood.
I was wondering if that was some text, but it is.
kind of weird. Now you hear about all
these, like no one was upset
about this Kylo Red movie not being made
until one person opened his mouth.
And suddenly it's like,
I want that. Now I'm mad
that I don't have it.
I think the show business
side business won, but I think that's
everything in late stage capitalism. Like
McDonald's don't have like actual
facades anymore. They're just gray slabs.
I feel like the movie industry is the
visual metaphor of like Starbucks and McDonald's
looking like slate. Totally. Totally.
Like, we're just talking about the business side.
Like, I saw these salt and vinegar chips at the store recently.
Yeah.
And I was like, fuck, it's the weak day.
I can't have it.
I was so mad.
Then I was like, I didn't want these until I saw the bag.
Artistry.
When I left, I was like, I haven't been craving.
I no longer want them out of my sight.
Fury that I'm not getting to happen.
Show business.
That's show business right now.
It is.
Where's my bag of salt
Minigers? I didn't know I wanted.
All right.
All right. Thank you.
Dick D'Alexander.
D'Alexandik.
Dick Daryl. Here we go.
I know these aren't the best
you know curated parts of these
shows that we do.
But they're usually my favorite.
The chaos at the end.
When we're just like...
When I've broken mentally...
When I have forgotten there's a camera
and we are just talking.
When there's a 20 minutes.
gap in the middle. We come back, shattered completely.
Weirdly is my favorite part of these. It's the part I remember.
When the least people are watching. You guys get exclusive content, the stuff that we don't
know what we're saying. It's weirdly my favorite part. Sorry, John. Can't do this reaction.
Aaron Coval, man after my own heart. Here we go. Aaron Coval says, I know this won't happen.
But I personally think, personally think a Rob Zombie Needle drop for Jason Mamo's Lobo.
would be great like the satanic rights of placula that's a good song pool i like that tune all right john
who what rob zombie movie what dc character should rob zombie do an adaptation of lobo's too easy
and answered yeah it just is say um he's got to do some like southern he's got to take a character
or make them some southern who's that oh what's that guy he's got a name he's he's like a dark evil guy
but he has just like an actual guy name.
He's in Constantine's stories.
It's not like Nick Cruel or something like that.
Not getting any closer with Nick Krull or dark guy with names.
Hold on, okay, let's see.
It's like a bad guy with like villainous.
He's got a name.
He's named.
What is this dude's freaking name?
Oh my God.
He, he, uh, he, I think it would have to be.
It's not loose.
The devil himself.
Nergal?
No, it's a two
component name.
It's like an actual person's name,
I want to say.
It's not like a con...
Papa Midnight.
No.
Antichrist.
I am trying.
Mammon?
I am just looking now.
The British Royal Family.
Yes, it's the British Royal Family.
Rob Zombie's Guerrilla Grod would be pretty fun.
Let's see.
No, no.
None of these guys.
What the hell?
Come on. Maybe he's a Marvel guy
I'm getting confused. Dude, I'd set you up for
like the ultimate John question and you
just... The ultimate John question? Yeah,
it's hard. And you've given the ultimate
John. I got to find
a free... Well, I'm like
who in the DC universe
Vandal Savage is who I'm trying to think of.
There you go. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
He's a... I think it was a Batman
villain. He's a porn star. Sure.
Sure, sure. I guess I would go
like, are there any Batman
or like DC characters who are like
I don't know.
This guy's like a friggin' boxer down on his look.
That's what you think of Rob Zombie?
Well, he was going to make Tyrannosaurus Rex after Devil's Rejects,
which was like a movie about, like,
it was like a road movie of a boxer who was like, you know,
I don't know.
I mean, Catman?
Yes, Rob Zombie's Man.
Just give me Rob Zombie.
There it is.
I'm like, who lends itself to being like scuzzed out in this universe?
Oh, I said, there is a cat man.
I was thinking a wild cat, my bad.
Wildcat's a boxer.
Batman who laughs.
A wildcat is the name of the basketball team in high school musical.
Yes.
Zach Ephron for Rob Zombies, Wildcat.
Six minute game on.
Etrigan.
Etrigan.
Etrigan.
We got to move.
We got to move on.
All right.
Anyway, if you guys have any Rob Zombies, let me know.
Got to get it together.
Thunder Kiss 65, but also get a good.
Give the ball.
Give the ball.
Lobo needle drop.
Captain Fernandez.
The way we play tonight.
I don't think it got past storyboards,
but I would have enjoyed Neil Blumcamp's direct sequel to aliens.
Fuck, I got to change the thumbnail.
A lot of people are with us on that one.
Yeah, I got to just put a generic xenomorph on there.
We're just putting those pre-vis images they released.
No, it has to look real.
Sigourney Weaver.
Yeah, there's that one of Sigourney Weaver and Miguel Bean.
Did Michael Bean die?
No, he's still around making movies with his wife.
Who died from?
Michael was just on a podcast a couple months ago.
No, is someone died from Alien?
Or can we just make it?
Ian Holm died, and then they brought him back from the dead creepily.
Michael Bean, we could still make that Neil Blancet movie.
Okay.
All right.
Appreciate the support, though.
Appreciate the support, though.
All right, moving along, which Alien movie should drop zombie direct.
Nick Alexander, the Justice League script sounds a lot like
what the OMA project trade paperback is,
story that led to infinite crisis.
I agree. I was thinking that actually.
I think it would have probably been setting up infinite crisis.
Like John and I did their crisis trilogy and OMAC is really hard to translate,
so I don't know if they could have done it directly, but I was thinking the same.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Thank you.
Moving right along.
Clayton Crook, oh, I know the answer to this one.
Have you all ever had a conversation with high top films?
I have.
That's pretty sick.
I love him.
I've only talked to him on, on, like we've messaged back and forth.
But I'm a big fan of his work, and I hope that his Jason Todd movie fucking takes off.
I'm glad of all the support rallying behind him on that.
And he's a very talented writer, very, very talented.
Probably, yeah, top three video, like him, film, speak, and Cosmonopin art variety.
Yeah, there's my jams.
Hell yeah.
Him and Philips speak are pretty similar.
Yeah.
Also, I figured it out.
Rob Zombie should direct.
Phantom Stranger!
He's got the song, it's right there.
He's got the freaking song. Perfect.
That'd be great. He'd do a good question, too.
I wasn't asked, but the question.
Hey, anything in the Constantine realm or the question, I would love it.
Beno.
Beno, thank you.
Beno.
You do a good killer crock movie.
It would be a good killer movie.
Fuck you, I'm a fucking crocodile out.
You're not a fucking read.
for some reason they're in a motel
All right
All right
Benno
Would have liked a Power Rangers sequel
Feels like they had potential with that
Also an Edge of Tomorrow sequel
Which apparently has a script
Would be cool
We said both of those earlier
Edge Tomorrow I loved a lot
I would love to see more in that universe
The Power Rangers movie
I'm okay without getting that sequel to it
I never saw that one
I heard it was good
It was okay
But the
The Edge of Tomorrow
movie
I don't think it will ever get made
no Tom Cruise has got the next like
five years mapped out it would have needed to have
happened already I am excited though for his
Alejano is it Alfonso Korana or
Alejandro in Urito one of the two
he's doing some movie
I think it's Alfonso
Tower Rangers too definitely yeah
Tom Cruise is playing Zordon
it's gonna be great
I will piss in all the Power Rangers
film
oh no
what are we looking at him for I'm sorry
Tom Cruise director Alfonzo
Alfonso Alejandro
For which movie
Just what's next
He's got like
A Tom Cruise movie coming up
Gotcha
I am finding that for you
I'm sorry I didn't have it ready
I didn't anticipate you talking about
Alfonso Corone
It's Alejandro
It's an Alley G
All right
What's it called?
There's no title for it right now
But it comes out in 2026 here
Whoa next year's crazy
It's a black comedy movie
That's exciting
Tom Cruise plays a black man.
Dude, it's about time.
Yeah.
He's really going to be running this time.
From Warner Brothers.
All right, all right.
That's pretty cool.
Well, moving a line along.
Sorry, don't have much to contribute to that.
Super Bowl, thank you.
It's okay, because that makes a perfect segue into
Ziploc, zenith moment of silence.
Wow.
Perfect.
Wow.
Interrupted by the alarm.
All right. Joshua Kimball is next.
Got a one, two, four question installment here.
All right, here we go.
Joshua Kimball says this.
I have a theory that instead of getting his powers from the beyonders,
doom will get his power from living embodiments of the infinity stones.
Loki, time, Wanda, reality, Bob, Mind, Thanos, or Galactus, power.
Cahori or America, Chavez, Space.
and possibly Franklin Richard's soul.
He would take their powers somehow,
not necessarily killing them all,
thus becoming a living infinity gauntlet,
making him almost unstoppable.
And since they aren't all the same universe,
he'd be able to blend them together
and use his new powers anyway.
I don't think even John knows what he's reading.
Or out of space time.
It's me with every page of Frankenstein.
I love how...
I love how much of a uphill battle that book.
Oh, man, that was such a funny thing to watch.
It took me a long time.
I finally appreciate the Frankenstein book.
Every few words I can see, I can feel you grip back on,
but then slip again the next sentence.
That was so funny.
I think that what you just described is,
a very comicy solution to the
doom problem. I unfortunately think that
much like watching John read it, the average audience
would struggle with the experience
of that being explained. What are you
talking about, boy?
So I think that's a really good comic storyline, but I
think the medium of film, we're getting
one Doom movie before Secret Wars.
I don't know if we can quantify that quickly.
So as much as I like the idea, I think
it's going to be a bit more straightforward.
Hell yeah.
Like this answer, thank you,
Joshua Campbell. Thank you for the
multiple.
super chat. And I do like the idea a lot, but it's a very
comicky idea. I think they should go more comicky.
All right. Angry Carrot.
88 carrot top in the chat.
Yo! I was wondering if Coy and John could hop back on
the DC animated universe for Teen Titans
versus Teen Titans Go! It's a really fun movie.
You guys are amazing.
We got to get them to do Batman's Superman Public Enemy at some point first.
Yeah, that's priority, I think.
And that one other one, too.
Those are two big Batman titles.
than all the Supergirl.
Yes.
The whole Melissa Bonoist?
Yeah.
All of it.
Yes.
All right.
I agree.
That's got to be priority.
The short-lived swamp thing series.
Yeah.
The West Craven movie.
The West Craven movie as well.
And, uh,
wasn't there a Roger Corman Swamp Thing?
Can he actually get one made?
On a Lou on Mike the Fantastic Four.
You're thinking of the Bell Gibson Swamping.
Christ killer.
Yeah.
And it's, uh,
where he fights are also pros gladiator in the swamp.
And it's spoken all in swamp tongue.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
All right.
R&P, Pacheco.
I'm glad people show interest in those, though.
Although I'll say when we brought it back.
The interest does not follow.
It was not a fanfare.
A lot of movies who are interested in that seem to show up.
Yep.
If you guys could go ahead and click when you type, that'd be amazing.
R&P Pacheco, here we go.
First time, Super Chat.
No way, that's what I'm talking about.
Thank you.
That's what we like to hear.
watching since 2014.
Thoughts on Hulk rights.
Really? Wow.
Took you this long to give a super chat.
Longtime listener, first time caller.
11 years, we've earned it.
First, where am I?
Thoughts? Okay, here we go, here we go.
I got you, Josh.
Thoughts on the Hulk rights issues
and the possibilities of Hulk sequels
and possible trilogy in the MCU.
They'd have to make a second one first,
so I don't see a trilogy coming.
I feel like the, you know,
Universal rights are clearly more complicated than you'd think because Mark Ruffalo barely feels like he can talk about it.
I saw a thing the other day where like Mark Ruffalo couldn't sign Hulk on a shield.
So she Hulk, Tatiana Musslani wrote, I'm with Hulk.
And like, I don't know what the rights are.
So it's just seemingly messy legally.
So I don't see a Hulk movie happening anytime soon.
I genuinely think, though, Marvel could have.
There's ways they don't, I feel like they're not thinking outside of the box of how they can.
create another like magnetic pull for audiences
if they found a way to do a Hulk movie
with Mark Ruffalo that did not have
these tie-ins to Avengers
like still be the same universe and whatever the fuck
but if they did an actual like super dark Hulk movie
that felt very mature
I think that would surprise people and be a new way to get people back in.
He's a huge character that is not being utilized well.
Let's not forget, Ang Lee
a tour director
was interested
completely drawn
to that character
for a reason
the character presents
a fascinating
psychological complexity
and the second
when Ed Norton
was going to do
sounded amazing
I'd love to see
something like that
that's what I mean
he is a character
who inherently
has something
that is truly
bigger than comics
he's a manifestation
of trauma
right
I think there's a whole
series there
legally though
but he's funny
now
but he's very smart
Hulk
Professor Hulk
it's a funny
he's got a
sweater on. Yeah, so we
need that. I agree. And I feel like if they
decided to take some swing and do
that film, it could
make a difference for Marvel. I agree.
Sometimes it's like, they should make a Logan.
That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. For Hulk, that would
be amazing. Instead of just doing, like, we need new
characters or new crossovers.
Sometimes you've got the hits, play the hits sometimes.
Why not just do the character we already have
and make something like fucking
emotionally gripping with that one character.
Yeah, I agree.
Logan's the prime example of that.
It's called a movie Bruce.
All right.
The Geno Bides.
What?
Kenya King.
You read a Kenya King, but I will go back and make sure we didn't miss a second, Keny King.
Kenya King.
I watched a Blade 2 reaction on this channel.
Yeah, we got that one.
Oh, you are correct.
We're going back.
If this was a Rob Zombie movie,
I'd thirding you with sexual assault, then bash your head in.
And a great song would play.
Yeah, it would. It would.
The soundtracks, baby.
All right, Kenya King, thank you.
I'm so sorry.
I apologize personally to you.
Okay, here we go.
I'd love Craigor, as in Zach Craigor,
to do a nightmare on Elm Street remake.
What do you think, gang?
I'm really excited for Resident Evil
because so far we've seen two incredible brand-new IPs from him.
I'm curious how he does when it's playing in someone else's
shared sandbox but if that goes well
I'd love to see his nightmare but I'm really excited
for Resident Evil
have you heard the story about
someone saying that he should
be that Jim Carrey
should be the new Freddie Kruger
that's fun I like that a lot
you think he could pull it off
yeah in a way that's actually scary
yeah I think there's a darkness in Jim Carrey
that is waiting to come out I don't think he'd just be the Grinch
would also watch
no but I
it was the nightmare before Christmas
Nightmare for Grinchis.
But no, I think there's a darkness in Jim Carrey he'd want to play in.
Like, his dramas have a dark, darkness to him.
I'd love to see that.
And all that energy and all that, like, zaniness, but put towards, like, I'd want to watch that.
I just feel like the voice he would do might not be scary.
I think his darkness is usually, like, rooted in sad people.
Yeah, that's true.
Not, like, aggressively, I don't know.
There's some Jim Carrey.
dramas I've missed, so.
I think he could do it.
I think he could do it.
I don't know if he would want to do it
because I think he'd have to be too...
Freddy's like a dark evil character.
It's not a sonic movie.
Yeah, that's kind of what he's wondering.
That's where he's...
That's where he wants to do things that are like happy
and net stretch.
Well, it would be an interesting stretch.
I think it would be really interesting for him to play Freddy.
Like Dr. Robot.
Again.
I don't know if he would actually want that.
That's his virtual.
Came out of retirement.
Came out of retirement for Robotnik.
He was ready for it.
All right.
All right.
The genobides were back in action.
It was so good seeing you guys at IMAX HQ for Tron.
What?
We already got it, Freddie, with Beckman.
That's right.
We did.
We did.
Yeah.
I was happy.
I was so happy.
You got to me, to my brother.
He says, thank you for the screening.
He's a cool guy, man.
Hope to see you guys soon, and hope to see John next time.
I know.
I'm sorry.
I had to preserve my virgin eyes for when the VOD drop happened.
He was in the projector booth.
I was projecting the film.
Thank you, Jim.
It was great to see you.
I appreciate you.
It's cool to find them to meet your brother.
I hope your roommate's doing well.
I noticed you did not bring us snacks.
I noticed a lack of snacks.
You knew we'd be there.
Snack lack.
Yeah.
Snack alike.
That's her new nickname now.
But we abide.
Snack like Jen.
Yeah.
snack a lot
reminding you of that is that you recalled in
high school
snack snack snack like
I mean in fairness IMAX did have snacks
so she probably thought
why would I were Jen snacks
They weren't those are better
Jen snacks are better
Jen snacks are way better
Always superior
I don't need more peanut M&Ms
Jen snacks is my favorite boy spin on
All right
She brings these little gummy like from Asia
kind of things like these little like mochi gummy
That were really good that one time
Yeah those are good
She brought me an Asian prostitute once
Hell yeah.
Another kind of Asian snack.
I ate her.
HR!
You're not supposed to be laughing.
Yeah.
We're going to fire you.
Alice.
All right.
Damn, dude.
We're a portless filed.
You're going to get us in trouble.
You're going to get us in trouble with you.
All right.
All right.
The next one, uh-oh, uh-oh.
Look out now.
Joshua Campbell says,
Do y'all not read superchats?
No.
No, what are those?
What's a super chat?
What's a football?
I'm Ron Bergeny.
It's okay.
We get there eventually.
That's how we do it.
Did he contribute to super chat earlier?
Yeah.
We read four parts from...
Oh, yeah, that's right.
He was a four part of the Avengers.
It just took us a while to get too...
Sorry.
So, yeah.
But yes, thank you, Josh.
You know, we thought today's stream
would be a slam dunk.
We also thought we'd be done at 2.15.
We thought to...
I was like, do you want to go to the store after?
I was like, I came here.
I had to eat more at 4.
He was like, we thought today, I mean, we had started a little bit late,
had internet glitch, and then Koi and I wanted to talk.
Here we are, 320.
All right, Alan Smithies up next.
It's the list stuff, because the list makes us go.
There are things we really want to talk about.
You guys, we're so excited about the next one down.
Shit.
Times 20.
The list does.
10 and 10 is a lot.
Damn, yeah.
Okay.
We learned.
All right.
Alan Smithy.
Happy Friday, guys.
Happy Friday to you.
I'm tired.
Alan.
I am energized by your comments here.
All right.
I've still got to do another shoot with Aaron after this.
That's just rise to the guardians.
Oh, that's way more intense.
I got to finish eating that prostitute.
Yeah.
She's been waiting this whole time.
She's been sitting in the fridge.
for weeks.
It's about time.
All right.
I got Thai food, not ironically
in the fridge right now.
I've got an Asian
snack. I'm actually waiting to eat.
All right.
Alan Smithy, we're doing it.
Happy Friday, guys.
I love Bubba Hotep
with Bruce Campbell as old man
Elvis versus a mummy.
Don't forget Aussie Davis,
as old man JFK or whatever.
There was almost a sequel called
Bubba Nost for
with Elvis versus vampires and Paul Giamatti as Colonel Tom Parker.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I have, what?
Uh, Bubba Hotep is a, I think it's a Don Coscarelli movie.
It stars as, who's Don Coscarelli?
Just saying these troma-esque titles, like we know them, John.
Bubba Hotep is a movie where it takes place in an old, in like a rest home, a retirement home for old folks.
Bruce Campbell plays a guy who believes that he is Elvis, so he just kind of dresses
is an axe Elvis.
Is that what I've seen those images from?
Probably.
And then Osie Davis is his buddy there who thinks he's like the reincarnated spirit of JFK.
They're just hanging around their little retirement home.
And then some supernatural occurrence happens that unleashes a mummy.
And they got to fight the mummy.
It's a cult classic at this point.
Sounds like a fun passion project.
If this can get made, Christ Killer can get made.
Christ Killer can get made.
I'm just saying, if you just lower the budget.
By a lot.
By like, you know, to nothing.
Current Russell Crow maybe do it.
And if you get a lot of people to work for free,
you can really get that movie made, man.
Gladiator, too.
Christ Killer.
John...
I just want to let you guys know that Jen is going to bring you snacks,
which is a crazy thing.
Why?
Oh, no.
She didn't know how Max Head's cute was like...
Is IMAX?
You're not going to bring snacks.
That's true.
That's a fair assumption.
I bring snacks every time.
Yeah, you just got to be clever about it.
People don't want to check your backpack.
Bring your backpack.
You could literally bring bombs.
Don Coscarelli directed
Fantasms movies
All the Fantasms
Many of the Fantasem movies
Yeah is that a demonetized term right there
They're never gonna check your bags
You can bring the head of a decapitated victim
Snack
John dies at the end he directed as well
You have an Asian prostitute
You could bring an Asian prostitute
They wouldn't even know
You did an episode of Masters of Horror
IMAX is never inviting us again
A little movie before
You should probably start taking backpacks
All right
Bubahotep is lovely
Go watch
Bubba Hotep
That's the bubble
Go watch
Bubahotep
I agree Alan Smithy
I want the sequel
All right
Mustafa and Jav
And we'll do a quickie refresh
I wish
Jumper 2008
Was a full-fledged franchise
Didn't they make a show
I think maybe
Yeah they wanted to make a whole franchise
I wanted to see it
I thought there was like a YouTube
original, when YouTube
originals were a thing, the thing that
launched Cobra Kai. People
forget that, man. There was a
fucking Cobra Guy came from YouTube.
Always Sunny did. It was a YouTube contest.
Was it? Always Sunny started as a YouTube contest and those guys
jumped up. Now it's the longest running live action show.
But when they did YouTube originals, they were trying to make their own
streaming service. Right, but even before that, like it was a contest and then they got
acquired. Yeah. Shit. I forgot.
Cobra Kai was a YouTube OG. Yeah.
YouTube Premium had a series called Impulse that is based on the Stephen Gould novel that followed Jumper.
Yes, exactly. So they were trying to do it. And Jumper, I don't feel like that really grew in popularity.
No. I hear it brought up on occasion, but it's, but it does seem like a bit of a niche.
I do know the people who watched it like people that love it, love it. People, yeah, it does have the fan base, but I don't think the fan base is big enough to warrant it going, but it was a fun movie.
I don't really remember it, but I remember thinking this is surprisingly fun.
But it did come out around the time when everyone was like,
Hayden Christensen sucks.
And I think a lot of that was unfairly placed on that film.
I agree from what I remember.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Oh, my.
What?
Okay, we're good.
We have a volley of stream labs more to get to.
All right.
I think Lockland Wright has been.
trying to send Super Chats the entire
time, even when they were open and didn't get
through them. So we have a gauntlet of little
fivers here on the Super Chats
on the Stream Labs. So we can do
a speed round with Lockland Wright to end
off the day. All right. Okay, look.
Let's read them all
at one sitting. Appreciate
the enthusiasm because this is a good
amount, and I don't want to be
disrespectful because this is a good amount.
So, let's read them all,
give a qualitative answer. And if
any more happen to come in after this, I'm sorry,
we cannot answer more, but
Coy, let's go out on a high note and give a fantastic
answer wherever he's going to say here.
Ready.
All right.
You just read them all in a big chunk.
That's where I started with John.
We're losing time.
Lockland Wright says,
Hey, guys.
So I messaged you about Marvel and DC
possibly fixing their phrasing issue
on a stream two weeks ago.
You're welcome for the double send and free money.
Okay.
What I meant was,
look at the MCU.
You have the first phase that builds up to the Avengers,
which works beautiful little sprinkles in each movie.
But in the second phase, we are so concentrated on Thanos
that Ultra, one of the biggest Marvel villains, gets flopped,
which could have been his own arc.
Ultron, he was talking about.
Ultron, there we go.
Imagine if Iron Man 3 introduced the idea,
Cap 2 added, Thor was standalone,
Guardians of the Galaxy was also a standalone,
and Ant Man was a possible add-on.
than Avengers, but I would say
call it Avengers Rise of Ultron
or if it is age of
Ultron, then make it a two-parter
with some tie-ins in the middle
so it feels more like an age.
Same thing with Civil War. Okay, I gave it her saying.
But I wouldn't have made it a Cap movie
Civil War. I would have made it a sort of
perspective shift
than Avengers being the finale.
Like a new hero starts it. Do an Iron Man
4 to add tie-ins of different
heroes adding to the story.
Cap 3 in the middle and Avengers to end.
This is basically what they did
over three phases with Infinity War, so it
would work and would make so
you don't, and would make
so you didn't have to follow the 27
movies before and just need to follow
the phases. Sorry for
such a long message, but I really wanted
to get your thoughts as I didn't
explain it well last time. Also,
I live in Illawara
Australia. Australia.
Cool. Hit me up.
Down under. And you're always welcome to
Dave, Jackman.
You have free accommodations here?
Mr. Sunday movies.
That's right, James.
All right, so what do we think of this rewritten phase plan?
I mean, hindsight is definitely 2020.
You can do, you know, some phrasing turns like they did,
Edge of Tomorrow's a great example of they weirdly retitled that to live, die, repeat.
But I feel like the Marvel universe is a miracle to be as cohesive as it is.
we've learned since phase three
how much real life gets in the way
and things go wrong. Phase one through three
going as well as they did is
incredible statistically. But now there's too many
eyes on everything and it couldn't happen again.
I personally think age Riltern
is a bit grandiose of a title for how short
that age is. I'm with you there.
Civil War I would have liked as a standalone.
They felt like they had to tie it to cap to give it a POV
because your other antagonist is
a hero and that needs to have an anchor.
So I get why they did all the choices they did
while also understanding your notes.
Well, I think what he's mainly boiling down to is he's suggesting that instead of doing like a giant arcing thing over one, like several phases, make each phase.
That way you could just walk right into that one phase.
You don't feel like you need to watch these other preexisting ones.
Yeah.
And maybe that is something Marvel should consider moving forward.
I think more containment is always a good idea.
Because yeah, I think the narrative is getting a little bit lost and like where do we start now?
like even phase five doesn't feel like a phase it just kind of started and ended it just feels like there's like some movies we just put in here it feels like here are the movies that happened in those years right versus a story that was told in phase five and moving forward after dooms day it seems like it probably would be the smarter choice to allow to to title each phase yeah versus just a phase five or phase six when phase four and five ended both times I was like huh like it didn't feel like it had a conclusion yeah and and sometimes the
title of it creates a different type of framework in someone's mind when processing something.
Like if they called the newest Doctor Who, if they just called it Doctor Who season 20, I'd be like,
oh, fuck, I got to watch. Too much work.
17, like 19 seasons before this, but by just calling it a different thing, even though it is technically
a season 20, it makes someone feel like they can just walk in right there.
I agree.
And that's actually not a bad note for moving forward.
words to give your instead of calling phase four or phase seven or something you you just call it
something else instead of phase right just don't refer to it as phase don't put it as a number yeah yeah
make like call it like a subtitle or something yeah the civil war saga like i love that uh that context of
like calling it the age of ultron phase yeah it would have been a cool thing to call it um because yeah
that is how i sometimes feel like i can hop in a comic books event comics uh without feel like i need
to read the pre-existing ones.
Yeah.
Because of how well they've established this.
Actually,
at first when we were like,
oh, what?
We got a last minute one.
I'm hearing that.
Actually,
on a producer note,
that sounds really cool.
And I'd never actually consider that.
That would be a pretty smart way to,
I hope they,
I feel like that's something
they're probably already considering.
They must be.
Maybe like the X-Men phase and even saga.
X-Men being like X-Force blank,
X-Factor blank.
Yeah, but they got to get rid of the whole phase seven.
100%.
They cannot.
After Secret Wars, no.
Ooh, it's probably going to be an exciting error, though.
Yeah, it needs to feel fresh and new.
Yeah.
Like, the comics have to do, new number ones, new starts.
Cool.
Well, thanks for Sun and Son and Sonos on a high note.
That was actually a really cool note to end up.
I really like that.
Hell yeah.
All right, we're done.
We did it!
Three and a half hours!
Coy and us.
Well, that has been another live stream of Greg and Coy.
and it goes out the window about halfway,
sometimes with tech, sometimes with madness.
We will not be back next week with the live stream.
We have Tara and Roxy breaking down the Halloween rankings right here on this set.
You're seeing a sneak preview of.
We'll be back in two weeks with another live stream.
Greg will think it'll go two hours.
I'll know it'll go three and we'll see you there.
Bye.
Thank you guys.
Hey.
Hey, awesome.
All right, mute our mics because I want to talk mad shit about Andrew Gordon right now.
Thank you.
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