The Reel Rejects - THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION (1994) IS A PERFECT FILM?! MOVIE REVIEW!!!

Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you to Hewle for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. Coy, I think I've set all the things. It's a time for... It's a dramatic Tuesday, I think. Coy John Redemption. Oh, Coy John Redemption. Because we haven't filmed together in a long time.

Starting point is 00:00:16 It is a Coy John Redemption. And I'm coming back strong. Coy John Redemption in one, three, and a one in a three. What a movie. Oh, my God, dude. Damn. I need a second. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:37 I'm exhausted. You're like a wrung out. Like all my emotional cortex has just been rung out. What a collection of character actors. What a... I'd be fascinated to know how this is as an adaptation. But this was so gripping. I just...

Starting point is 00:00:57 The amount of emotions it was able to do simultaneously. a lot of good movies can balance sadness and happiness and humor and heartwarm but rarely is it like simultaneous like I don't usually feel the emotions running in tandem like it was such an interesting like they were stacking

Starting point is 00:01:18 and such opposing emotions throughout the movie yeah yeah absolutely boy howdy gang if you're joining us if you've joined us up till this point thank you so much if you could leave a like on the video. We would very much appreciate that.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 You're chipping away at these edits day in and day out. And we appreciate them mightily for that task. And if you happen to be listening to this on a podcast platform of any variety, if you could leave us on rating, that would be very much appreciated. Coitus, before we hop into some patron questions. How are you feeling in this moment? And, yeah, what's your first impression? I

Starting point is 00:02:28 there are so few movies that are like life moments and I think this is one of them and it was a really weird format to watch it in sure but somehow it didn't take away from it like I want to give the movie it's flowers for being so good that even though I was being watched I was so in

Starting point is 00:02:54 this is an odd movie to be watched because you're very aware of like what the responses are. I know what this movie is to people and I know the expectation and even with all that I think it lives up to and the

Starting point is 00:03:09 thing I was processing in the one minute since it ended was I've I've given 25 films five stars my whole life. I was about to ask because it's going to join the 26th film. I think this is the 26th film. You heard it here gang 26 five stars.

Starting point is 00:03:26 And that's out of like 4,000 movies. So like, it's that amazing. Like I'm, I think I would have cried if I wasn't so happy. And I don't, I don't, I don't emote well with film. Like, I just don't have that, I don't have that Greg button where it's always at the ready. But I feel so emotional. But I almost like feel like it's all of the emotions are trying to get down the same highway. So it's only a six car highway.

Starting point is 00:03:48 There's seven cars. So I just, I'm just so full. It made me think about my life. It made me think about, um, how much of a bitch I am, like how I don't appreciate enough, how much harder I could work and how much more I should appreciate when I'm not working. Like the feeling it gives me is full of so many dualities. Like it makes me want to live more. It makes me want to work harder. It makes you want to not work. It makes me want to work. It makes me want to, you know, stop and go sit

Starting point is 00:04:13 under a tree. It makes me want to learn. It makes me want to, you know, it makes me appreciate my education. It makes me miss New England. It makes me miss the South. It just, it gave me so much. like I've never been to prison. I plan to keep it that way and, and, uh, there's still time. There's plenty of time, hopefully, but it also made me like,

Starting point is 00:04:31 it was so warm and comforting like a good fantasy film that it made me feel like I'd been somewhere I've never been like in a good way. But also it's about such a negative place that it was interesting to feel so like I was there. Um, yeah, just it did so much while being so quotable and while being so impactful and while having incredible performances and,

Starting point is 00:04:54 um you know i i i'm a big mr griver guy and so i've always loved to see that it's a it's a dozy um is that also a king or is it it's a i believe it's a king i i i know it's a boston and uh i remember seeing that in theaters in boston and being just just old enough to appreciate but also realizing that i would like it more as i get older and i've only liked it more as i get older but it's why i'm like a big robins fan um and and and he's so good here and uh and obviously least, you know, not to say that he's better or worse than the incredible Morgan Freeman presence, but like the both of them just in tandem was so overwhelming. And yeah, what'd you think? Golly, I agree with everything you've been you've been saying. It is, it is a, you know, an interesting

Starting point is 00:05:39 one to watch with the expectation of like, oh yeah, you know, I know, especially this is often, you know, foisted up as one of like the quintessential like bro cry movies. So you do have like a prescription from just cultural osmosis of like what your experience is supposed to be but i really loved what letting this wash over me and it's fun to come into stuff like this where you have a sense obviously as to what this would be and i had a few expectations of like we'll probably see the grim realities of life in prison in the 40s 50s and 60s we will also probably witness the triumph of the human spirit in some way shape or form and there will probably be a lot of great actors and a lot of lyrical thoughtful moments and it is all those things um and it's just yeah it just feels so

Starting point is 00:06:26 quintessentially of itself quintessential i guess like it's it's it's i haven't i'm fascinated to know what a lot of these i would like to become a faster more prolific reader because films like this make me fascinated to know what the adaptation is and what changes from book to screen because I'm sure this is a very affecting story on paper, but this felt like this was just quintessentially meant to be. This movie was just meant to exist. Yeah. And yeah, you know, there are certain things you can extrapolate about where we'll probably go,

Starting point is 00:07:03 but I think the way the movie articulates itself, it's like, you know, in a prison movie like this, they're either going to get out or they're not, they're going to die there, they're not. So, you know, it's like it's not even really about the plot. the the broad plot details so much as it is about how it rolls the wheel and i thought this rolled the wheel really wonderfully and yeah it this this is a hard tone and i feel like i i have to scratch further beyond the surface of the more thoughtful more life affirming kings um i saw and very much

Starting point is 00:07:37 enjoyed the life of chuck um which i just watched that this week oh did you do you like yeah i did quite a bit. I watched it at home and I definitely paused and thought and I don't do that usually. I usually like to let a movie breathe. I usually like to live in a movie. But it, it left me a number of times thinking about my life enough that I didn't want to miss stuff. And I found myself like having my own narrative and I was like, that's not fair to the movie. And it was one of the first times I was glad I didn't see it in theaters because I was so in it that I was like, whoa. Yeah. And I was really impressed. Yeah, and this isn't obviously quite the same, but I feel like they would probably occupy certain closer wavelengths on the Stephen King spectrum as it pertains to it. Yeah, it's not

Starting point is 00:08:25 overtly like a horror. It's not overtly, I mean, there are sci-fi-ish elements to the life of Chuck, but they're both movies about, yeah, life and how you live it and how you meet circumstances and there is a certain amount of you know existential dread but there's also a lot of life affirmation and i feel like this is a kind of king you know there are some i i can't remember i think i might have seen hearts in atlantis like way back i think that's a king that's one of his more like thoughtful adaptations um and i really liked life of chuck as well this this feels like a wholly unique thing though because like i think one thing that people the debate and the Your results will vary of it all, I think, with this lane of King adaptations, is that will it feel, um, I don't know, in any way saccharine or sappy or like it's aiming to be profound. And I like, again, I'm not levying these criticisms at Life of Chuck. Uh, I liked Life of Chuck. I can feel the reach toward profundity in that movie more. I agree with that. I like I don't, I mean, that was not a five star film. It was a very good film, but I think it gave it three and a half or four stars. Like it was very good.

Starting point is 00:09:37 But I do think that was some of the magic of this film is it never felt like some of those flaws. Yeah, it never feels like it has profundity on its mind and yet it feels so lived in and profound in a lot of ways. It feels, yeah, like a chronicle of so much time and you really endure yourself to these guys and it has this lovely, yeah, just glimpse at, again, you take all these guys who the pretense is, yes, they've all done something bad except for Andy. Andy, even he's not perfect. and then yeah they kind of let you see the ways in which we all adapt to all sorts of grim heavy and constrictive situations the things you get used to maybe the things that you don't the effects of hope on everything and yeah this felt just so well rounded as a drama felt rounded as a somewhat mystery and it felt really life affirming without being to saccharin or cloying it felt appropriately harsh without ever going to lurid with it or to it didn't feel gratuitive or like it was exploitative. Yeah, I didn't feel like

Starting point is 00:10:41 you know, uh, suffering porn. Yeah, and that's like I was really worried about that a few times. Yeah, it's really well pitched. It's really well pitched and I would like to watch it again to maybe, you know, unlock the greater emotionality. But the thing is, yeah, it kept, I came into this expecting lots of like

Starting point is 00:10:57 big, heavy, tear jerking moments. And it's not a movie really comprised of those things. I was worried about that too. There are a lot of really beautiful lovely moments and there are a lot of really touching things and there there's a lot of everything but it's also not like hyper saturated to the point where you feel like okay well this is the part where i'm supposed to do this or that it's just yeah it just feels so quintessential and so expertly executed on all fronts from the production designs to the cinematography the music the acting the the writing again i would love to know how this adapts because this feels like a

Starting point is 00:11:32 perfect adaptation uh two things before we jump in these uh From what you just said. One, I clearly didn't realize Stephen King wrote it because I thought Rita Hayworth did. And two, a lot of text up top. Yeah, it was, it was a lot going on. And then the second one was I realize in hindsight that Roger Deacon shot from behind the poster is in like every Roger Deacon's montage. And I'm so glad I didn't recognize the warden. Because I remember the Tim Robin shot of reaching up, but I didn't recognize his face because it's like,

Starting point is 00:12:05 in shadow and like I didn't go like that's if I'd recognize the warden would ruin the whole thing because that deacon shot is so iconic and deacons is my favorite cinematographer so I've seen that in like 30 montages uh so I'm just I just had that moment of epiphany of like I have seen that image many times and that would have changed the entire experience yeah absolutely oh my goodness all right we got some questions from the royal rejects and that's going to guide the rest of our little review chat here let's start off with kev be kev b thank you for chiming in so consistently hey coin andrew nickerson's first i know but i'm mixing oh okay i was making sure you saw i was a scroll thing all right kev b it is let's do it starting off with kev and kev says hey coin john

Starting point is 00:12:52 you're smoother than morgan freeman's narration i appreciate you you are smoother than high praise i don't know who's who could be smoother but it's you uh if you uh if you you were in red shoes jrille jones narration that's maybe the only voice and maybe we've got to have a narration one of them is past i believe yeah well you know we'll play it back with the magic of a i no okay anyway uh if you were in red shoes would you really buy andy's nonstop hope or just smile and nod to avoid getting disappointed trivia the iconic oak tree where andy left a message for red was a real 180 to 200 year old white Oak in Ohio.

Starting point is 00:13:35 It stood about 100 feet tall and became a major tourist spot drawing thousands of fans each year. Sadly, lightning struck it in 2011 and it finally fell in 2016. Pieces of the tree were made into souvenirs so you can still take home a little piece of Shawshank history. That is wild. And as partly I jumped to this question because it gets to sort of the central theme, a central theme.

Starting point is 00:13:58 So yeah, if you were in red shoes, do you think you would buy the hope? or do you think you would just smile, nod, and avoid getting to see it? I think that this is a scaling issue, so please acknowledge that I'm acknowledging that at the top. I think movies make you look at your life, right? Like, it's your experience and not to the same scale. Do not misquote me.

Starting point is 00:14:20 But I think I would because of what my version of that reality is, is like the darkness of our world is something that is constantly trying to erode away. I'm not in prison. I'm not in this position. I'm not in like being inundated with that. But I feel like the world is dark and it's easy to lose hope. I think losing hope is the easier choice.

Starting point is 00:14:44 And I think we see that happen to people every day. I think most people I know have had it chipped away. And I think I'm always looking for the brighter side of things very consciously. Like me loving movies and me loving comics and me loving art is not an accident. it is how I survive. So I'd like to think I would attach to books and I'd like to think I would attach to music because that's kind of what I'm trying to do in my much less dark reality. I hope that I would maintain hope because I like to maintain hope and espouse hope in this reality.

Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah, man, I would want to be read. You know, I think that's a beautiful thing the movie does is sell. It gives you the most. happy ending possible given the circumstances and that's a big risk yeah like because that could be very again saccharine or cloying uh and i feel like they really handled it nicely here because i believed every ounce of his belief in his detachment from hope even down to the very end like i love the way it's portrayed toward the end where you can tell he's not even like fully committed in a way sort of like instinctually like well you know as long as i'm here andy yeah i care a lot about

Starting point is 00:16:06 and he he tasked me with this thing so i why not you know i and we felt that in the prison yard that andy knew he was doing that yeah and it's like it's such a beautiful thing and it's like they make so much about the character of andy being this yeah cold guy or or you know this this sort of emotional wall of sorts and yet you know in these little ways he is able to convincingly yeah inspire hope and to do it in a way that isn't like i'm making a big sweeping appeal to you it's just like here's a little thing for later here's what a performance yeah yeah if you're playing through that wall yeah yeah like it's it is really remarkable and it's one of those movies too that i think will probably continue to blossom

Starting point is 00:16:46 outward as we sit with it in the coming days um but yeah i thought andy's nonstop hope from that side was well handled because it didn't feel as you have phrased it you know it doesn't feel like a nonstop barrage of like this character's thing is that he's got hope in a bad situation yeah um bounced back yeah he had moments of it's just who he is yeah yeah and he does have moments of of of of he reaches his breaking point and we see him go past that point and I guess it's just within his nature to have a degree of hope and yeah I thought the way that he ultimately slips that under red's skin is really lovely and fascinating and yeah I would hope that uh that I would be susceptible to to that level of hope.

Starting point is 00:17:31 I feel like as not great as many circumstances of life make me feel actively in many days and situations. I feel like that hope at the end of the string on the stick is sort of always dangling there for me as a person. So my hope is that I wouldn't give into being jaded. And I like that they let Red be a character who says that that's where he's coming from. but ultimately, you know,

Starting point is 00:18:00 follows the thread and is rewarded for it. Like, what a high wire act of this whole friggin movie was? Uh, all righty, let's see. Uh, yeah, let's go down. Let's do the next one. Um, let's see. Let's do Tara next.

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Starting point is 00:19:59 Well, there you go. He clapped. And keeping time, keeping notes. Coy. Tara says this. Hey, John and Coy, get busy living or get busy dying. I am absolutely gobsmacked. You haven't seen this movie.

Starting point is 00:20:12 Same. I tried to do the second tisk and I missed it. But yeah, I am too, actually. This is definitely, it's weird. This is definitely a movie that, like, people love, but people don't typically just put on. Right. As much as people, like, enthusiastically love this movie. I would not want this on with other.

Starting point is 00:20:27 I don't want to, I wouldn't really put it on at a party. I feel like I would have a special viewing of this every few years when I feel like my soul needs it. I'm excited to watch it not on camera in a few years. It's not going to be soon because that was so overwhelming. But like, I'm glad I didn't see it younger because I think I need to be grown to appreciate it. Yeah, it's a weird one because I feel like on the one hand I might have, if you see it younger, you will have less preconceived notions of what it's supposed to be and how you're supposed to feel. so it might wash over you differently the first time

Starting point is 00:20:58 but I also agree that yeah like the I think this is a movie that will reward you just the more of life experience you earn have you all at least seen the Green Mile which was also written and directed by Frank Deribont based on a Stephen King story I have not I'm reacting to that next wow I don't know in what order and I'm with because apparently it's not

Starting point is 00:21:20 pushing me out you I don't know I'm reacting with Aaron maybe maybe with three of us See if you can jump in. I would love that. Do a little back-to-back. Stephen King. Back-to-back stints in the clink. As of filming this, I'm seeing it in mere days.

Starting point is 00:21:34 I don't know which order they'll come out on, but you get the scoop. Yeah, I would love to be there, but we'll see. Neither of us has seen it, though, so there you go on that. Did you see the escape twist coming before it happened as a falsely imprisoned a man? How do you think Andy was able to keep the hope, quote, unquote, throughout all those years and everything he experienced? Also, she goes on to say, If you hadn't done so, would you talk a bit about how developed the characters are? And do you feel the same about them if, wait, sorry.

Starting point is 00:22:04 And do you feel the same? Do you think you'd feel the same about them if you knew what they did to be in prison? It's a good question. They left that out of the movie. I haven't read the book, but some characters like Brooks were guilty of particularly heinous crimes. You know, that's something I was definitely thinking about as the movie went. and I think part of what the movie is here to do is to kind of introduce you to the idea that

Starting point is 00:22:29 yeah I mean you shouldn't divorce people from what they did to be here but now that everybody's here and this is the world for all intents and purposes now everyone is on a sort of like not quite level but like we're in a new playing field where that's just a prerequisite that's just part of the nature of how you got here

Starting point is 00:22:47 so a new society forms inside of that and I think that for what the point of the movie is and the fact that it is, again, touching on the human spirit and the human spirit's a fascinatingly malleable thing and you can do something terrible at the same time as you have very many other kind of opposite qualities, or you can do something terrible as a younger person and then grow into a different kind of person who might not do that. I thought the whole handling of Reds continued, you know, little monologue to the board. It's kind of indicative of that, you know, and yeah, I think it would certainly be harder to get on board so easily with a character like Brooks, because I think as he's presented here, you're sitting here thinking to yourself like, well, maybe he did some kind of white color crimes, or maybe he did some other sort of less than what you're alluding to here.

Starting point is 00:23:40 So I think it would have made the movie more challenging. I think the point would remain intact if they did reveal it, but I think it would be harder to let that shine. I agree with other things you said. I think that it was a movie choice to not. I think the book probably has more ability to tell a longer form and more imagination of that. Like, you're going to go through the turmoil of knowing

Starting point is 00:24:03 and what you want that to be. But I think it's smart here to have that be kind of a fill it in yourself and navigate that because the movie's about, you know the rehabilitation element of it um and it's hard like it's something that we have to address in real life right like what what you did to put yourself in that position versus whether or not you're a changed person and should continue on so i i think the movie asks a lot of questions of you and i'm sure the book asks even more so i i like the opportunity to to look at those morals yeah and and as far as a twist uh i like john said earlier i was like well it ends one of two ways

Starting point is 00:24:39 So that kind, I didn't know, you know, when the prison door opened and he wasn't there, it was one of two options. But that was a really beautiful, you know, thing to experience. Part of me expected Andy to get out and Red to remain in prison. I did not expect for them to both get out. And I really liked the handling of Red getting out. This whole thing of like, you know what? I'm done trying to tell you what you want to hear. And he describes.

Starting point is 00:25:09 Rehabilitation by totally different circumstances. But the actualization of it, not the concept of it. Yeah, totally. So, yeah, I wouldn't say that I predicted it necessarily. I sort of expected that Andy might escape. But it's the kind of movie where I came in fully embracing the idea that they might all die in prison. Yeah, I know it was a tear turn. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:33 We just see him get old together. And this is the kind of movie where I feel like the point is not made or broken necessarily. by whether or not they end up in jail by the end or not. But as it stands, I think, yeah, the nature of hope and the way Tim Robbins plays Andy is really

Starting point is 00:25:51 wonderful because the movie and having so much be from, we start and we're hearing, we're seeing him in the lowest moment of his life up until this point and we're hearing the assessment of what his story is going to be to everyone for all intents and purposes. And then

Starting point is 00:26:07 we, you know, see him as this guy who they describe as being you know emotionally walled off and whatever else and then we go to then seeing him largely through other people or through reds narration and everybody else's interactions with him and uh i don't know like it's an interesting thing it strikes me as though that his nature is not he just isn't as the movie stands i don't think it's in his nature to to to take his own way out so to speak uh of the mortal coil uh and so like i don't know i feel like as a falsely imprisoned person, he probably has a different access to both bleakness and hope than a lot of the other guys in the same place, the same situation.

Starting point is 00:26:49 And I would imagine, like, I thought the, I liked the way they did it because a lot of it is just him finding stuff to do and him finding ways of just like, yeah, as he gets to know his fellow prisoners and stuff like that, he just puts himself to work, making all of their circumstances is better and more amenable and that is a means of keeping yourself busy giving yourself something about and creating hope all at the same time so it does beg the question about his nature generally and the hope being part of it and it's not a preachy kind of hope and I feel like now he doesn't seem to even always know where that hope is actually going to literally come from it's just sort of like an aura an attitude and I like that the movie lets you sit here and kind of ponder that

Starting point is 00:27:34 you know i agree he said it better than i could uh so yeah i don't know i and i liked it too i thought the way they showed him like finally past the point of hope and then that just giving him all the more drive to like burn the place down yeah freaking escape like that's i think that's a a very significant just note of the character is oh i have i am beyond the point of breaking now and i just got to get out so i'm just going to make my plan work yeah yeah yeah perseverance is a huge part of how that hope was possible yeah all right going up to andrew nickerson john and coy joy that's what we are

Starting point is 00:28:12 purely i'm so glad you are both able to experience this finally likewise growing up only knowing stephen king as a horror author it the shining etc i was shocked when i found out he wrote this too what is your favorite stephen king adaptation now that you've seen this by the way we need more joy reactions love you guys yes we do joan redemption That's right. This was. John Droy Redemption. Hopefully,

Starting point is 00:28:38 Greenland. I would say this. I mean, I've given 25 films five stars and I gave this one. This is 26. I can't say that anymore. 26.

Starting point is 00:28:46 So this one pretty comfortably. I love The Shining. I'm a big fan of it, part one from Mooshietti. Those are both incredible films, but they didn't really wreck me quite like this did. You know,

Starting point is 00:28:59 this was quite the experience. Carrie was quite the time. I had a great time with Carrie. Carrey is bonkers. Yeah, I watched that. It's more bonkers than I ever. Oh, my God. It just kept going.

Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, I liked Carrie quite a bit. Okay. I saw Doctor Sleep once and loved it and then no one else liked it. So I'm like, did I see the same movie? So I need to re-see the doctor's sleep. I want to see the director's cut of that for sure. Yes, I've never seen the directors. I loved the regular cut.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Nobody else did. So I need to see that. This has become, yeah, I mean, as of this moment in recency bias, whatever, I feel like this is definitely. It's either this or the shining for me. And obviously, it's well noted that the Shining is not a very good adaptation of the Shining. So I feel like by proxy, even though I have not read it, yeah, I think it's pretty easy to kind of give it to this. I haven't seen standby me since I was a kid. I've never seen it.

Starting point is 00:29:48 That is one that I would love to revisit watch again. Oh, I love the mist. Frank Deribons, the mist. I was going to say, that's in my top three. I think it's this shining the mist. And I love Dreamcatcher, but it's not in the top three. Jason Lee's drink. People get.

Starting point is 00:30:02 Oh, Jason Lee. Yeah, you. Okay. Playing him in a movie. It's going to be Jason Lee playing John. All right. I tell you.

Starting point is 00:30:10 I do have a soft spot in my heart for the mist. I actually have not seen misery, so I'm very excited to eventually check that out. 14.08, I thought, was kind of underrated. We got very obsessed with secret window back in the day. Oh, that's fun. And I want to see the monkey, too. I've never seen Christine or The Monkey or Green Mile or Pet Cemetery or Children

Starting point is 00:30:27 of the Corn. Yeah, I'm a big blind spot for Stephen King. I've got a, yeah, I got a, Definitely a good handful I got to catch up with. I want to see Christine again. I haven't seen that one in a hot minute. And I've only seen it once. It was ages ago.

Starting point is 00:30:41 And yeah, I would love to the original pet cemetery is pretty good. But yeah, I think this handily takes that top spot. This shining mist for my top three. Yeah. But leave yours down below because, again, I'm sure there are a lot of people who are better versed in his filmog, Bibliag, et cetera. Carrie's probably tied with third though, man. Carrie was great.

Starting point is 00:31:00 Anyway, yeah, Carrie's love Stephen King. It's hard. It's hard to go. wrong. Yeah. I mean, and, you know,

Starting point is 00:31:06 I just know that no one's going to choose Dark Tower. I, you know, I own it and I haven't seen it

Starting point is 00:31:09 because I'm afraid because I love McCona and eat yourself much so I bought it. And like as of now, yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:31:14 It's not bad now because I haven't seen it. Because it's just in a pretty box. I bought it for those two gentlemen I love and I don't know. All righty.

Starting point is 00:31:24 Cody Enos, a lot of the iconic quotes are ripped straight out of the novella. It is based on what are some of your favorites? Oh,

Starting point is 00:31:33 I couldn't pull it off one watch. I remember many times watching this going, I mean, just now going, oh my God, what a line. But I mean, get busy living, get busy dying is inspiring.

Starting point is 00:31:42 Like, I'm going to leave here and go get some stuff done. Yeah. Golly, I'm just full transparency. I've just fully, I've pulled up a list of some great shawshank quotes. But get busy living or get busy dying.

Starting point is 00:31:55 It is like a quote that it has, I have been aware of, I haven't even aware of it. as a quote from like a movie or something. Yeah. But it's a quote that, yeah, has lived and disembodied to me for so long. Andy Dufrein who crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side. It's kind of great.

Starting point is 00:32:16 Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane is pretty iconic because that's a big, you know, sort of part of the movie. And you've got to be a little bit insane. Yeah. But yeah, this is one I would definitely want to hear from you guys on because, yeah, first watch of something like this, it is really hard. because it was so quotable like there's so much in this movie yeah absolutely

Starting point is 00:32:37 and there's yeah there's just so much in there but thank you and I would love to hear all the rest of your guys Jay rushed in closing us out I believe for the Q&A today Stephen King wrote this and was and this was an excellent movie

Starting point is 00:32:51 do you think the prison system today is as messed up as the prison in the film yes it's got to be it's got to be man it's just probably messed up been slightly more specific ways. Modern ways. I mean, I think

Starting point is 00:33:05 the prison industrial complex is a problem, to put it lightly, and I think the horrors of the world being bigger behind prison walls and the horrors of our world probably are bigger behind prison walls.

Starting point is 00:33:21 I also think we're, you know, a fairly malicious species. So I think people with power like to abuse it. So I imagine in a place that has a hierarchy. Name one time all right today uh yeah so i i feel like uh i feel like yes it's bad in there yeah and i mean the movie too i don't know much about the you know point for point history of prisons in america but i you know found it fascinating how the movie is like yeah you know the warden came

Starting point is 00:33:50 started the prison those are literally like we could get free labor and we can make all these other opportunities to bring in money and to run this thing like a business and to do crime of our own yeah it's a good way for a major motion picture to show that yeah like it probably got a way like it did the writing of this by stephen king the movie doing it is probably the only way they're going to sneak that into something as big because there's a lot of power in uh lobbyists and people that have power to keep that out of the that guy so i was very impressed yeah and the way they introduced it to you you can almost you can almost see if we lived in a truly honorable society how this could work. Yeah. And then you quickly see just another link in the chain of villainy from the people

Starting point is 00:34:33 who are supposed to be rehabilitating the supposed to be rehabilitating the supposed villains of society. Yeah. And, and yeah, like I, you know, every prison is a snowflake, but I have to imagine that guard, uh, you know, guards beating on inmates has to be a thing. People getting thrown in solitary for arbitrary reasons for way too long has got to still be very much a thing. Free labor and forced labor. I mean, this at least presented a scenario in which there was some degree, you know, like there are some, you know, stretches of the movie where things are on the up and we're getting more books and they're giving us a library. And like there are instances of hopes and little humane accoutrements that you could argue are partly there to kind of add to the torture. But yeah, it certainly seems as though the prison industrial complex is probably like, you know,

Starting point is 00:35:26 uh as in essence the same and has probably gotten just more sophisticated or dumber probably a little bit of both in how yeah crimes are carried out against inmates and various other exploitations are levied so uh yeah definitely uh probably as messed up if not more messed up but it's important to keep hope it is it is in the world at large because yes that is a and will continue to be a problem but at the end of the day all we have is today and all we can do is keep chipping away at that wall crawl through that shit and come out clean you lovelies that's true and to close us out i i remember to quote thing or at least a pat when he's talking to him about music and he's like like they can't take that from yeah that was beautiful yeah

Starting point is 00:36:06 it's like it's like a thing inside you that they just they can't take that's the beauty of music they can't get that from you haven't you ever felt that way about music that whole scene where they plays the records for them i was talking about music and the intro and i was like i'm in such a good mood and then i don't realize with a little foreshed now i'm going to go back listening to music on the way home and find that joy again listen to some hang william and some Italian opera. Buy some Crystal Method. Probably just more Crystal Method.

Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm not going to pretend. I'm not going to be like, oh, yes, I'm put on the opera and hang. I'm not a cultured-man-cultured man. Oh. In that way. Crystal Method's culture.

Starting point is 00:36:39 Crystal Method is culture. Some orbital, some prodigy. I'm going to get out of here and smack my bitch up. I heard the riff in my head just there. That's what you didn't do. My dad, my last Atlantic turned away out, so I leave it a little more holes than that.

Starting point is 00:36:54 My dad loves Prodigy. And I grew up listening to Prodigy and my dad convinced me because I was so young hearing that song. He actually convinced me. You know how when you're a kid like you believe your parents so much? Convinced me it was snap my picture so that he could listen to it around his children. So growing up I was like snap my pit and I did. Yeah. Change my pitch up.

Starting point is 00:37:19 How wholesome. My pitch is that my dad wanted to hear the song. So he just convinced his child. So there's a little bit of hope for you That's the beauty of art and music And yeah We're going to go snap a picture You gotta go snap a picture

Starting point is 00:37:34 After this triumph We will end up on some wholesome Prodigy entertainment It's helping me learn to raise my kids I don't have yet They're going to listen to prodigy to do Gang this was a journey I am surprised it ended

Starting point is 00:37:48 Quite as joyously as it did But what a beautiful piece of cinema What a beautiful piece of storytelling Triumphs of the Human Spirit I can't wait to go back and examine this further and to feel it that much deeper Thank you guys if you joined us

Starting point is 00:38:01 this far or for any of this and we'll catch you on the next one Koi will catch you for Green Mile Hopefully we'll go on too Who knows Teeming up Until now, until then Get busy living or get busy

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