The Reel Rejects - THE SHINING (1980) IS A NIGHTMARE FEVER DREAM!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Let's get to it. Three, two, one. I clicked it. Wow. what a freaking movie that is i understand now why it's one of the all-time great horror films great ass shit all right guys we just got done watching the shining if you're listening to us on apple or spotify please give us a five star rating if you're on youtube like comment subscribe when you do ring the bell

Starting point is 00:01:18 thanks prep for helping out of these videos super appreciate it i love this movie i'm going to dive right into the questions because i'm sure that will inform our review so let's go. Jaden Rhodes. I love this movie. I know Stephen King has said he hates the way Stanley Cooper changed his book. I've never really read the book, so it didn't bother me. But I'm curious if y'all like the way Jack Nicholson played this character because I love him. It's one of my favorite horror movie characters. Well, I didn't write the book and I'm not Stephen King, so I'm sorry he had had opinion of the film. I think it's, I understand now why it's one of the most

Starting point is 00:01:54 iconic horror films, as I just mentioned here at the closing of the film. I think Jack Nicholson played this brilliantly and scary as well. And I think Stanley Kubrick directed him brilliantly and brilliantly as well. I think I just said that twice. Point being that his descent into madness, like you could always tell there was a little bit of an arrogant and a little bit of an angry side to him. I think we got a little bit of a preview to that. Not only from the exposition of when the wife was talking about, what Shelley DeVall's character was talking to the doctor lady about how when his papers were pulled he accidentally dislocated Danny's shoulder and all that which would say that he's got a little bit of an anger issue but saw a little bit of

Starting point is 00:02:41 that and some of the dialogue he was talking about with Danny in the car where he said you didn't eat your breakfast Danny and it's like I'm like Tara do you feel the contrast between how warm she is and welcoming and how a little bit uneasy he can be towards Danny I'm like it's a little bit strict there. They just done a very simple question. Like I'm hungry. I'm like, wow. So to see his descent into madness throughout the film and how they go throughout that exploration and how it really takes its time, but you never feel the film is dragging at the same point. I think Jack Nicholson, I think Jack Nicholson did such a great job in making me go, I haven't seen him do a violent thing this entire film, but I'm scared shitless of him from his facial expressions. and his body language and just his eyes and his tone. So I think he was amazing. One of my favorite Jack Nicholson performances, not the character,

Starting point is 00:03:37 because I think the character is awful, but his performance, one of my favorite performances from Jack Nicholson. What about you? Yeah, I think he did a great job. I definitely would have killed him, you know, the beginning of the movie. That's just me or hurt him severely.

Starting point is 00:03:52 But that's how you know they're doing the character, right? So, yeah, I totally love it. I'm not familiar with the book. I did not even, did I know this was a book? I guess maybe in my brain I'm sort of seeing a book saying The Shining and I see it visually. But I'm very surprised that people are saying that, or Stephen King was saying that he hated the way that Stanley Kubrick changed his book. I understand that like an author has a very big, he has a story, he has an idea, he wrote it with a purpose and this is the way that it goes. Um, I'm curious how Stanley Kubrick, he obviously wrote this script.

Starting point is 00:04:31 My assumption is Stephen King read it before had to sign off his rights for Stanley Kubrick to make it. True. So, um, for him saying he hates it and yet I see why it's a very iconic film that everyone loves. Yeah. Um, there is a very, um, there's a reason why a lot of people know about it without even seeing this movie know about red rum, the twins.

Starting point is 00:04:55 And for some reason, I feel like the bike. the carpet. Those are the things that I know that I see. So yeah, that seems odd to me. I'm not surprised, though, that he would be upset by it. And obviously, yes, Jack Nicholson played the character to a T. All right. From Hope. Hi, Taryn Andrew. Hope you guys are well. I recently watched The Shining for the first time. I would love to know what your thoughts and theories are at the ending since they never fully clarified why Jack ended up the way he did. Do you think leaving it to the audience's imagination was a creative decision for this

Starting point is 00:05:29 movie. Yeah, I think I thought it was personally pretty clear that he was part of this whole thing. I mean, I guess that's how I interpreted it was that he was there in the 1920s. He was part of whatever

Starting point is 00:05:44 endeavors went on in this hotel, this crazy chaotic atmosphere that went on there, some nefarious, crazy-ass shit you saw the pig-dressed mass guy doing some as terror would say wakadoo shit in there juicing it whatever and i don't know what else crazy crap went on there but the place ended up being haunted and then there's i would say cycles of violence is going on and i would also say that jack nicholson

Starting point is 00:06:13 in his previous life i would have a a guest admit as he was most likely a very angry and violent human being as all these people these ghosts were they're like on the the dark side of things and that's why they said anyone who's got the shine in them like dick hollering did and and danny they need to be stopped and they can't enter our side or whatever they were trying to I'd probably have to see the film to have an even more understanding grasp of what was going on but it seemed like the ghost side is the more evil dark side of things as opposed to the light side where the shine

Starting point is 00:06:49 people are and yeah I would say that that's how I interpreted it as like it's just a repeat the cycle of violence continues to repeat with someone like Jack Nicholson but it's it's just a sign of irony that he would get someone a child who's like clairvoyant and has the shine in him so I thought that was fascinating but what was your theory? I think they set us up in the very beginning

Starting point is 00:07:12 when they talked to us about hey just so you know you coming up here there was a guy I'm sure you you want to know the tragedy right that he killed he trapped him up in a little pieces with an axe meaning some people cannot deal with the isolation. That guy specifically held off on that information, he told him over the phone,

Starting point is 00:07:32 he waited until he got there, until he was there for the job to tell him. So to me, there's, sure, the very ending where we're closing up on the picture and you're like, oh, wow, he's been there all along. I'm like, yeah, sort of leaving it up to the imagination. But the other guy that had already killed his family with the ax he very much said in the bathroom he said you've been here all along i didn't know

Starting point is 00:07:58 quite what that meant until i saw the picture at the end and i'm like yeah you have been here all along right so um i think they gave us uh quite a bit of information because he was going to end up doing the exact same thing to his wife and his child and with the exact same weapon yeah that's a good point that's how i see it all right tapy chimbetete i'm not really a person that's entirely opposed to remakes as I'm the opinion that if it doesn't take anything away from the original as well, it's always being there. However, I have exceptions as Back to the Future in particular this very movie. Would you be open for a remake of The Shining? Who'd you'd see direct one if they were ever to do the unthinkable? I'm not opposed to it. I just, it's going to be so hard to make a remake of

Starting point is 00:08:44 this film. This is so iconic in so many different ways. So as I just pointed out that I'm not opposed to it. It would be a very hard remake to do. And I think the biggest thing for me is when you do remakes, I've said this before, and I will continue to say it again in the future. I just don't want shot-by-shot recreation. So if you're going to do it, it's got to have some originality to it while still encompassing the beauty that made this so iconic. So good luck. If you do that, I'll be open to seeing it. I'm always open-minded to anything in life. Good luck as well, casting someone to fill in the Jack Torrance shoes as well as the Wendy. I thought Shelly Duvall was amazing.

Starting point is 00:09:27 The way she was able to bring fragility to the role and the emotional rawness you felt. I think she was in fricking credible. She should have been nominated in this movie to me. She's great. Brilliant. Yeah. But would you be open to a remake of this? I don't think so.

Starting point is 00:09:40 I don't think you should just like just don't do it when a movie is brilliant. And it's, it's, um, obviously there's, to me, no notes. It's great. There's not a lot of people and or directors that can do a lot of one shots the way that they did it and make it look as brilliantly as they did. A lot of the cinematography is amazing.

Starting point is 00:10:02 So I'm like, no, don't touch it. Miriam A, hi guys, so excited for this. I'd love to know if you picked up on any small details that Kubrick planted in the movie that most people don't see. For example, chairs just disappearing for the background and the patterns of the floor changing. I did notice the patterns of the floor.

Starting point is 00:10:19 floor but i didn't notice that like during any shots um but i did notice that they they were changing throughout i did not notice chairs disappearing from the freaking background so that's very cool to hear yeah i don't think i'd notice that either the only thing i noticed is when he was talking with the ghost when he was in the gold room and then when they weren't there like drinks were there and then they weren't there but that was very not subtle that was obvious so but stuff like that which was not obvious this is why i love films like this and coming back to it is when you pick up little details like that and i appreciate shit like that because just one baby little example of course i'm not comparing a film like ace ventura pet detective to this no but i do love

Starting point is 00:11:06 that movie i've seen that movie probably 50 times and there was one little small detail terra and you guys that i never noticed and then on the 30th time i noticed he's walking by it at a party and he pulls the violin's arm. Like, I was just at the time when I was smoking a lot of ganja, I noticed he pulled his arm. I'm like, what the hell? I've seen this movie 30 times. I've never noticed that. And I finally noticed it this time.

Starting point is 00:11:33 And I told my friend that when we were watching. I'm like, did you see him pull the violin's arm? He's like, what are you talking about? And then I rewind was like, I've never seen that either. So I love little details like that when you, something is right in front of your face. And you don't know. It's like she also said, too, that big fire. place. I didn't see it because it was still the left, even though it's ginobus, right?

Starting point is 00:11:52 That naked picture, I saw the one behind him, but the one in front because I was like looking at the TV. I was listening to the dialogue and looking at the bottom, sometimes things that are right in front of you, it's like an illusion because you're paying attention to other different things. So I'm glad you said that, Miriam, and I will pay attention more to other things. Just like close up magic. If you go to the Jurassic Park reaction with me and Greg, we did get a Patreon question from one of you guys where we had never seen it before. There

Starting point is 00:12:24 is a hand that moves the Raptor. I know what you're talking about. Into the kitchen. Yep. And yes, you can see it full on and they use that shot. There was also one too at the beginning of the movie when they go into the with the Velociraptor the very shoot her

Starting point is 00:12:40 right before that moment. Oh wow. Okay. Chelsea Durham. Have either of you all read the book? Nope. And if so, did you like the movie? better well we didn't read the book I'm a book stand but the movie is top five for horror I do I do I'm like yeah top five

Starting point is 00:12:55 let's go it's a brilliant film I did not read the book we have heard that fans if there stands of the book or well at least Stephen King he was upset about this movie but in general my assumption is you watch this movie and you're like

Starting point is 00:13:11 this is a good film normally Chelsea I yes I would read the book but I have not read this book I so I can't answer that question but I'm so is it in your top five top 10 where is I would right now put it in top 10 horror okay I'd have to really think about that usually though I pick the book over the movie but I as I just pointed out I haven't read the book the very rare times I've ever picked the movie over the book is I think Jaws is the one rare time

Starting point is 00:13:43 I've ever done that where I like the movie over the book but usually Harry Potter or I'd have to think about some of the other books that are movies but like stuff like that is very rare where I pick the movie over the books so yeah okay last one Jay Rushden Question will you watch the sequel

Starting point is 00:14:01 Doctor Sleep It's a great movie there I think we can answer this right I assume we will I'm not sure we are watching it We are going to be reacting to it next week actually So yes you will be seeing it very soon There you have it

Starting point is 00:14:16 Do you have any last thoughts on this film? Incredible film, incredible performance. I love the themes about isolation and madness. I think the dissent of Jack Torrance is just a fascinating exploration of a character really going into like into dissent as I just pointed out. And Jack Nicholson is absolutely mesmerizing in the role. I think Shelley DeVall was also incredible. We also talked about in real time during the reaction that the kid who played Danny

Starting point is 00:14:46 Danny Lloyd, I think was, he was incredible too. It wasn't like he was acting with, you know, no-name actors with some pretty big celebrities and pretty good actors at the time. So the fact that he was able to hold his own and do an incredible job, and a lot of the

Starting point is 00:15:02 film had to be provided on his end from visual narration and doing a voice that was really tough to, I could imagine, strained a lot of his vocal cords in scenes. He'd probably like, I need to take a break. This is hurting my, my, my, my vocal chords. So he did an incredible job. I really felt his vulnerability and his emotion

Starting point is 00:15:22 throughout a lot of these scenes as well as Shelley DeVall and Jack Nicholson's psychoticness in his eyes and his body language, his emoting, just amazing, amazing film. And I also love Dick Hollering, his limited time he had in the film. I love the humanity and the warmth he brought, which contrasted nicely from Jack Torrance. Great film. And the music, the cinematography, the direction, just chef's kiss, amazing, amazing movie. This is how horror should be done. So I think what makes this film really, really good is the oneers, and he uses them quite a lot. That takes, it's basically like directing almost a play, but on film and it's done not as often as I would like. They don't hold on shots as long as I would like in most movies or TV shows that I watch.

Starting point is 00:16:07 This one, though, did really, really did. And they're also moving it. So they're going around corners. They're not trying, they're going behind walls and just keep. the dialogue and we will end up here so that means I mean when you look at the actors they're all very professional they know how to hit their marks and obviously not F up you've got a take when you're starting from it to ending it and we're not cutting away from it that just means you've got to be 100% you've got to be on top of your shite otherwise it's just not going to start over that shot so that's why you cast you know the people that are in this film that you cast them obviously for a very specific reason I thought the kid was really really really brilliant and oh like i i think he's owed a lot of respect for making this film what it is because he's so creepy from the top and then through to the end and he's very very believable anytime he opened his mouth even when in the beginning he's with this weird thing um he he's

Starting point is 00:17:04 really really grounded very believable as well as everyone else but we're talking about a child the only other two children i can think of drew barry more and et obviously um long Stephen had to really, really do some work to get her there. Tough work. That when you read it, you're like, okay. And also the one movie that I just watched with Roxy is Trained to Basin. And that kid is owed also a lot of credit for that film. These three actors I put in that group right now of like phenomenal and just great

Starting point is 00:17:41 freaking job. This movie, I do see. I'm like, oh, yeah, top five, cool. I don't know if it would be in mine, but it's definitely like, it's up there for sure. It is absolutely phenomenal. Really glad we got to watch it. We'll see you guys on Dr. Sleep.

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The Reel Rejects - THE SHINING (1980) IS A NIGHTMARE FEVER DREAM!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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