The Reel Rejects - THE TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE (1986) REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:21 1986 the movie commence Oh, Corey Burton, he's so, such a good one. I believe he did Star Wars, the Clone Wars. Really? I believe so. Wow. Eric Idol? You know who that is, right?

Starting point is 00:01:41 Nope. How dare you, sir? How dare you? Stan Jones. How dare you? Oh, Clive Revel. Do you know who Clive Revel is? Nope.

Starting point is 00:01:50 I believe, and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Clive Revell was the emperor and Empire Strikes Back before they did the re-version of Ian McDermid after, you know, Ian McDermott was cast in Return of the Jedi and then obviously played Senator Palpatine and the Emperor every which way and then he came back to do the Empire Strikes back

Starting point is 00:02:09 when they did the reversion, you know? Yeah. But I believe Clive Revell was, and also too, fun fact, I believe Clive Revell was Alfred Pennyworth and Batman the Animated Series for a few episodes before they recast it and I think it was Ephraim Zimbalsh Jr. I hope I said his name right.

Starting point is 00:02:25 God rest in peace. So that amazing actor who did that great job. It's such good chemistry with Kevin Connery. Anyways, getting back to here. If you don't mind leaving us a rating on Apple or Spotify, we would so appreciate it. Also, if you want to look cool like Aaron and myself and the rest of us here at the team of Rio Rejects,

Starting point is 00:02:43 Reject Nation Shop.com. You can get cool teas like these. Like these. Like these. And you can assemble. and go and get some yes please help support us um i i really enjoyed it was fun i really wish um i would have i mean i still again i still loved it i really enjoyed it um i'm glad i at least had the couple of movies we did have for context at least like in terms of i'd have a little

Starting point is 00:03:10 emotional context and depth with like for instance optimist prime with his depth i felt that just because of, you know, watching the, uh, the movies. I, I really like that character from that. His leader complex, uh, how much he values human life. Yeah. So I felt I actually gave a damn when, you know, I still feel like I still would have cared, but not, not to the extent that I did. I feel like if I would have watched the show, I would have cared extremely more. Um, had I not seen the movies is, is the point I'm trying to get to here. But because I, I have that context of the character from the three movies I've seen. Um, um, Um, uh, that's, uh, but again, I'm, I still felt it here. Um, I do like the frenetic pace. Again, you got an 80s animated film. So, um, and I assume they knew their audience was going to be at the time, uh, children. Um, I, I like the, uh, the, that frenetic pace that you go, waste no time. Um, it was pretty, pretty basic and simple and easy to follow. So I loved it. The action was great. The animation, fantastic. They really, you can see there was so much care and love that they, um, um,

Starting point is 00:04:16 put in each shot and it was such hard and difficult work. So I really appreciated the animation so much. It was again, I love that 80s style. And again, speaking of 80s, the music was so, it's almost like a character in the movie itself. Yeah, 100%. You know, you got like this song that we're hearing right now. And also, too, I love that theme for,

Starting point is 00:04:41 what's the bad guy's name from Morrison Rose? Unicorn. Hey, I got it before you said it. Ha, I beat you. and I thought Orson Wells before he actually transformed and I will say like as menacing and looming of a presence

Starting point is 00:04:54 as he was when he transformed and he was. That was so cool. I was not expecting that which I know you're probably all thinking it's called Transformers Dodo. Of course he's going to transform. Yes, I know, but because he was a little space ball thing like that,

Starting point is 00:05:06 I didn't know. And I didn't know who Unicron was before this. So again, my apologies. But that was a cool little twist in there to see him. But the point I was just trying to make is like when he was that little ball thing with the horns. I said it right this time, so,

Starting point is 00:05:20 but you've probably all made fun of me for that other comment I made. Anyways, the point I'm making is when he was that, like, he was extremely menacing. And I think Orson Wells lent that gravitas to that sense of menacing tone to him. Yes, you know, you got to see him like eat up a bunch of stuff. But I like that presence that, yeah,

Starting point is 00:05:40 even when he wasn't on screen, I always felt his presence looming over. And I love that stronghold he had over, what was Megatron's new name? Galvatron. Galvatron. Thank you so much. Appreciate you being here. But also, too, I think one, before I let you get on here, because I know I'm speaking too much here, but I will say to one other thing I did appreciate about this was all the new

Starting point is 00:06:03 characters that I, again, I didn't know. It was cool to see some of the characters from the movies that I did know, like Ironhide, jazz, obviously Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, who is barely in the movie. I'm glad Michael Bay made the, yeah. Spikes barely in the movie, too. Was Spike in the, in the, uh, Michael Bay films? I don't think so. Okay.

Starting point is 00:06:25 In the cartoon though. Oh, okay. Um, but either way, I'm glad I got to meet some new characters. Like you got, uh, hot rod here. And then you had, uh, what was the, the dinosaur that I really loved? Grimlock. Grimlock. Thank you again, Aaron.

Starting point is 00:06:39 Um, and all these other new characters that we got to meet. It was fun like seeing. And just all the different types, you got these, uh, Australian. type junkyard ones. You got the ones in the water. It was just cool to like just see so many different types of transformers. I appreciate that. That was fun.

Starting point is 00:06:54 I do have some critiques I'm going to get to, but I think Aaron's probably like, can you shut up so I can talk? So I'm going to let this guy go ahead and speak. You are the cup of the Roe Reject. Well, no, no, no, no. I do have one critique I want to mention with Hot Rod, although that was so sick him doing the Matrix thing. I remind me to get to what my minor critique is of him in a second.

Starting point is 00:07:16 And I want to hear your thoughts, though, on the film first. Oh, I had blast. This is so much fun. From the music to the animation style to the voices and all of the silly things in between. I had an amazing time watching this movie with you, Andrew. And I hope you guys enjoyed watching us, too, because I wanted to see this movie for years. And for some reason, I just never had the chance to. You were saving it for this.

Starting point is 00:07:42 I was saving it for this. Young Aaron just knew preemptively. he's going to watch this on the Real Rejects. But yeah, this was, this was great, you know. It was funny. It was heartfelt. The music was incredible. It's slapped back and forth up and down throughout the entire runtime.

Starting point is 00:08:00 Not only the soundtrack, but all of the needle drops are the original, the original soundtrack and the score. That's what I meant to say. But yeah, like, and it's funny because you said you've only seen the first three of them. I've seen the first three Michael Bay movie. the first one of Mark Wahlberg and I've seen Bumblebee and I saw the most recent one that came out, Rise of the Beast.

Starting point is 00:08:23 And it's funny watching Rise of the Beast prior to seeing this movie because that's where the Dino Robots are introduced in that way. That's what I was saying to you. The Dino bots were introduced when I was saying that earlier. Sorry, continue.

Starting point is 00:08:36 Yeah, so seeing things that I know from pop culture in previous Transformers movies explored in this one, this being like the nucleus point as far as films go to be the inspiration for those other things. I thought was really cool. I enjoyed seeing those things.

Starting point is 00:08:50 That's why I knew Grimlock and remember that name. Oh, yeah, I was on my movie. Minor, I guess, spoiler. It's rise to the beast in the trailer. Right, right, right. I'm not going to spoil anything else about that movie. Oh, I know Grimlock said it. How dare you?

Starting point is 00:09:03 But now, yeah, no, I definitely like, after seeing this and getting more expansion of characters, again, because I had only seen the first three, I definitely, this got me more invested in wanting to see that. Definitely let us know in the comments. section, let Greg and John know, if you're probably not going to want to watch the four. I mean, I'm down to watch whatever you guys want us to watch.

Starting point is 00:09:24 I don't even care if it's a good film or a bad film. I always want to do what you guys want us here to do. He's a man of the people. I am. I really am. But, yeah, if you guys want me to continue the series after three, I don't care which one it is, you let us know. I would love to do more.

Starting point is 00:09:40 I don't know who else on the team is not seen after three. But yeah, let us know which ones of those films. But like I said, because this got me very emotionally invested in just all the expansion of the other characters, I will say this, as cool as the design of Megatron was, it was hysterical watching how tough and brooding he was. And then when his life is online, and again, I know you can make the argument, well, like, you probably would be the same way in that situation. Yeah, but I'm not an evil villain.

Starting point is 00:10:11 At least I don't think I am. It's just so funny when his life. was on the line like how like a mega like a mega bitch he became yeah like begging for his life is is hysterical you say pegging for his life begging begging but you you can think that because you're in a deadpool trance of mind right now but um i will say one minor critique and again if you disagree with me that's totally cool it's all subjective you know um as as much as i loved a hot rod and like this you know sense of like taking the throne of the matrix and all that stuff that that was all great i loved it i wish and again i know this is made for kids and

Starting point is 00:10:49 all that so i i get not trying to go into a whole layer of extreme emotional depth and all that i would have liked even if it's for a few minutes aaron if they would have had like him feeling really guilty about the mistake he made and costing optimist and i know they they did focus on that for a little bit of a second because he hugged optimist that i'm so sorry but i would have liked if like maybe a scene or two after that if you felt that a little bit more and I get it they're robots but they still like have the

Starting point is 00:11:18 the relatable human personalities that we feel you know what I mean I would have like and again I know it's an hour and 24 minutes like we got to get going we can't focus on stuff like that but I would have like just maybe another scene or two where he's still feeling that

Starting point is 00:11:30 and like maybe Magnus is that his name that's the one I can't help you on the one that Robert Stack the one who Optimus gave the Matrix to well what's that uh i think so okay uh well i would have liked or someone on the team saying hey like you made a mistake it happens we learned from mistakes and that's even a lesson you could give to children or whoever's watching this in general it's a life lesson so i would have liked again

Starting point is 00:11:57 just adds another emotional layer to his character and just again it's a good life lesson for anyone like mistakes happen like you didn't do it on purpose you were just trying to help optimist um again i'm glad that they did include the moment where he hugged optimist and said i'm so sorry sorry. That was great. I love that. I just would have liked, again, just one, maybe two more scenes of him, like, still feeling guilty about that. And then, like, one of them, like, hey, can I still go on him? I don't want to get any of you hurt. I'm a liability out here on the field. I'm not, I can't do this anymore. And then, like, I get it. We're in a frenetic pace. It's tough to focus on something like that. But that's just my minor, minor critique, I would say. Other than that, I really, yeah. What do you think? Do you agree or disagree? Am I a piece of crap for having that opinion? You're definitely a piece of poo-poo for having that opinion. I'm out of here. See you. Okay. Bye. Citizens of the Reject Nation, or should I say, royal rejects,

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Starting point is 00:14:43 No, no, I'm just fine. I do agree with your sentiments there. I think, yeah, a lot of them could have used a little bit more character development. And I understand this is more of an ensemble piece. And more about the event than the individual. But yeah, I could have used some of that. But that being said, I think it's about the vibes and the experience and the stakes of what the overall story is. And I think we really got to relish of that.

Starting point is 00:15:07 And because of that, I had a great. time. I had a really fun time with this one. Yeah. And I liked getting to see how they all work together and seeing the the story spread out, you know, and like we split up our characters to have to face in conflict. So like at one point there was like three to four different like obstacles or um antagonists we had to to face. And for this movie being an hour and a half or less an hour and a half while still having all those things. I thought it was great. That was incredible. For sure at that at that runtime that was impressive to do all that and still wrap everything up for sure. Absolutely. Exactly. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:47 It was fun. The character designs were cool. Oh yeah. And the cinema the cinematography on top of the animation. I just thought they worked in tandem together. Fantastic. There were some really cool POV shots, some shots where you were inside Unicron as well. Like just again, you felt that menacing looming throat from inside of him. Like, oh my goodness. But overall, love it. I'm going to get some trivia facts in second Aaron. Do you have anything else before I get to the trivia? I wish we would have got some more Optimus Prime. I feel like he died very early in the movie.

Starting point is 00:16:16 I agree with you there. That's another some stuff with him. I agree. I understand why they did that because they had to pass on the Matrix. Let me see what if it was Robert, what Robert's character because now it's driving me crazy. Give me one second here, guys. Ultra Magnus. I was right. It was Magnus.

Starting point is 00:16:32 Ultra Magnus is his name. Now you can't help me anymore. Yeah, no, I get why they did that at that first battle because they had to pass on the Matrix to him and then obviously we had to have that moment

Starting point is 00:16:44 where Hot Rod gets it at the end but I agree with you I would prefer that happen maybe in a middle battle but I mean again with the frenetic pace and such a short runtime I understand the decision

Starting point is 00:16:55 but that definitely happened pretty early on but yeah anything else you'd like to add Aaron I wish I'd hear Optimus say roll out at least one time but at least you get to hear it

Starting point is 00:17:07 picky thing we had to hear it eventually hear it and i like joy in your voice when you heard it i was so happy to me i was so happy i was so happy i wish um yeah i like that we had that arc of like the the dude who ended up ultimately causing optimist deaths and of becoming the guy who got the hot rod end up getting the spark in the end and you got the spark right yeah he's the he kept it uh the matrix yeah the matrix i believe so yeah seemed like he did he earned it he wasn't chosen for it but then he earned it by the end of the movie which i was like that's right that's that's the appropriate choice for this movie i feel that and i can imagine you know i wasn't there but being kid in the 80s growing up with this cartoon and then going to the theater

Starting point is 00:17:51 so hype so excited to watch it oh yeah and then having your favorite transformer just die in the first like 10 15 minutes is probably not a fun experience to go through this is probably a lot of kids like first real death real trauma in their lives because they grew up every saturday morning watching Optimus and the Transformers kick the Decepticon's asses. And yeah, your hero's dead. And he's not coming back. Mom, what did, Dad?

Starting point is 00:18:14 Would you take me to? I hate this. Not this movie teaching you about death in object permanence. That's crazy. No, I feel you. No, it's a good point. But yeah, I'm done.

Starting point is 00:18:23 What do we got? Are you really done? Roll out. So this was Orson Wells. Hold on before I get to that. I just want to confirm it was Orson Wells who did Unicron. I believe it was.

Starting point is 00:18:34 Yes, it was. Okay. He was really good as Unicron. So this was Orson Well's final film before his death on October 10th, 1985 at the age of 70. He recorded his, he recorded all of his lines five days prior on October 5th. No.

Starting point is 00:18:51 Wow. That's insane. Wow. Oh, wow. That's really sad. This was Scatman Crawler's final film before his death on November 22nd, 1986 at age 76. Wow.

Starting point is 00:19:04 Geez, a lot of people... Is he was Scatman? Scatman, Crothers. Hmm. Okay. This film is considered the bridge between the second and third seasons of the Transformers,

Starting point is 00:19:18 which came out in 1984, as several third season characters are introduced here and several first season characters are killed or altered, e.g. Megatron to Galvatron. Okay. So, like, this is canon

Starting point is 00:19:31 to the show. Yes. That's, if you didn't have the money to watch this when you were you're probably like that's tough shit yeah you're probably like watching the show

Starting point is 00:19:38 like what what did I miss guys you know did I miss a few episodes I'm happy they don't do that anymore I'm happy the movies that are tied in the shows are like more standoff experiences and aren't essential viewing yeah

Starting point is 00:19:48 so you can enjoy them on your own time you know let's see let me find another good one this movie takes place 20 years after the end of Transformers animated series second season 20 years after That doesn't make sense Because we just expect us to know who Spike and Daniel are

Starting point is 00:20:08 If they're not even characters in the Although a toy was not released until 2003 An action figure of Unicron was designed But the prototype had flimsy arms And a faulty voice chip And was scrapped Yeah then it became Chuckie Spike was originally to be absent from the film

Starting point is 00:20:27 Along with the other former human characters And the finished script He received a crew If small role. Yeah, very small rule. Crucial? I wouldn't say his role was super crucial. He's just kind of there.

Starting point is 00:20:39 Daniel was more crucial. Yeah, I was going to say Daniel was way more crucial. Orson Wells died in 1985, as we mentioned earlier. Sparking rumors that Leonard Nimoy took over and provided the voice of Unicron. However, Susan Blue, RSI, has since confirmed that Wells completed the voiceover work before he died. Okay. All right. Let me get to some spoiler ones because those usually have some fun ones.

Starting point is 00:21:02 Reuters. Oh, by the way, spoilers in case you guys haven't. Oh, I assume you've seen the movie now. This movie was produced at the same time as G.I. Joe, the movie, 1987, by the same company. It had been agreed that both movies would suffer the loss of their lead heroes, Optimus Prime and Duke. Production started on G.I. Joe first, but Transformers ended up being completed and released first. Optimus Prime's death sparked a huge amount of controversy. causing the writers to change Duke's death to a coma. G.I. Joe was released direct to video. Had that movie been released first, Optimus Prime might have survived. Wow. Damn it. Why didn't we release G.I. Joe first? All right. Two more.

Starting point is 00:21:49 In the theatrical release, Spike says, Oh, shit. What are we going to do now? When he and Bumblebee realized that blowing up the moon did not affect Unicron. Oh, shit had been included to guarantee. guarantee a PG rating. G-rated movies got fewer daily showings than other films at the time. The line was excised from home video releases until 2001. It was restored on Rhino home videos release and had remained on subsequent releases.

Starting point is 00:22:22 You know what I have to say to that? Oh, shit. All right. It was changed to. Not sure. Let us know 9DB. They don't care. You guys let us know in the comments.

Starting point is 00:22:32 you guys are so smart, I trust you. All right, we'll go two more, and that's it. Optimus Prime's death became something of a running gag. Almost every Transformer series features Optimus' Optimus Primes or his equivalent dying only to be resurrected sometime later. That's what we're talking about in the second Transformers Michael Bay film. He died in that film and they came back. They stood on business in this film.

Starting point is 00:22:54 They died and he stayed dead, as they should. Death matters. Make it count. Right or wrong. And last one. Okay, we'll go two more because this one's actually interesting. No, the second book. I was like the third time he said two more.

Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah, but this last one's actually interesting. Writer Ron Friedman described himself as extremely opposed to killing off Optimus Prime, who he considered a father figure and icon to remove Optimus Prime, to physically remove daddy from the family that wasn't going to work, Friedman said, I told Hasbro and their lieutenants, they would have to bring him back, but they said no and had great things planned. In other words, they were going to create new more expensive toys. It's all about the toys. It's all about the money.

Starting point is 00:23:31 All about that paper and the toys. All right. I promise. Last one. And then two more. I'm just kidding. Last one. Last one.

Starting point is 00:23:38 I promise. Okay. Amazing. Aaron, do you have any final thoughts you would like to let the citizens of Reject Nation know? Uh, that, that, listen, that girl Transformers pretty hot. I'm not going to lie to you. The lipstick. The lipstick. The lipstick and just the whole presentation, this is the, this was the Lola Bunny of the 80s. Hey. That's what I, that's what I think would happen to kids. Okay. So you're going to call her doll face, huh? Okay. Got it. All right. Anyways, I really enjoyed this film. Like I said, I just would have. made personally. I'm not a screenwriter. I don't consider it to be one, but I would have liked just a tiny bit more of an emotional depth on that with Hot Rod with his character just in terms of feeling a little more guilty with Optimus. I did like the moment where he embraced him and felt

Starting point is 00:24:43 guilty there, but just another scene or two would even just been a little more icing on the cake for me overall. I still loved it. Fun film. Great. I understand the hype and the praise it gets. Yeah, it was great. I'd like to see more. If you guys want me to continue this series. I guess now after three, let Greg John know in the comments section below. Yeah. I can't continue the series. I've seen the

Starting point is 00:25:07 old guys. Yeah, but I'm sure there's maybe Tara or Roxy or someone has not seen some of the other ones. So let us know in the comments and what did you think of this film? Love to hear your thoughts. And we will see you guys later. Doses.

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The Reel Rejects - THE TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE (1986) REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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