The Reel Rejects - The Truth About John Humphrey: From Being Bullied to Reel Rejects

Episode Date: October 27, 2024

Get ready to see a whole new side of Reel Rejects’ very own John Humphrey! 🎙️ Diary of a Reel Reject Episode 4: The True John Humphrey! 🎙️In this episode, Greg and John dive deep into John’s journey—from a bullied kid to becoming the quirky, creative co-host of one of YouTube’s favorite reaction channels. This episode is packed with personal stories, laughs, and unexpected revelations that show why John is so much more than just “#2” at Reel Rejects. Topics Covered: The Origin of Greg and John's Friendship: Take a trip back to elementary school as John and Greg reminisce about bonding over Pokémon, the early days of their friendship, and how those experiences shaped their lives. First Celebrity Crushes: John shares his first celebrity crushes, including Pokémon's Misty and Casper's Christina Ricci, and how these early influences impacted him. Love for Horror: Dive into John's passion for horror, including his love for movies like Drag Me to Hell and what horror means to him personally. Identifying with Movie Characters: John opens up about feeling connected to characters like Michael Cera’s Evan from Superbad and Peggy Olson from Mad Men, exploring how they reflect parts of his own personality. Movie Theater Memories: From awkward experiences watching Blade with friends to his thoughts on Saw II and the impact of Rob Zombie films, John’s stories will leave you laughing and cringing. Handling Online Criticism: John and Greg discuss the ups and downs of being in the public eye, how they deal with criticism, and the balance between empathy and humor. This episode is an unfiltered look at the Real John Humphrey—the quirks, the humor, the struggles, and the triumphs. Whether you're a long-time Reel Rejects fan or new to the channel, you won’t want to miss this revealing and heartfelt conversation. Leave a comment, share your thoughts, and let us know what you’d like to see next! PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Us On Socials: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  https://www.tiktok.com/@thereelrejects?lang=en Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think this should be the intro moving forward to kind of explain what separates this. Anyway, we are here at the preserve. I should probably introduce you first. No, introduce the preserve. It's beautiful here. These plants will outlive us all. No one knows who you are.

No one knows me. We're at the preserve. It's home to 6,500 plants and trees, and it's beautiful out here. It's absolutely gorgeous. It's joy at nighttime and in the day. I know. It's actually pretty cool that we get a shoot here at night. Yeah, it's like being Jurassic Park.

And, of course, we are partnered with multi-house. We are in their actual office. Multi-house. Due to the time of day, they had to get repositioned. And, of course, John is usually the one who is handling all the cameras and stuff. And while he did set everything up, we are being 100% assisted by a beautiful man named Ted right now. Ted Angle. Just shout. Just shout, Ted. They'll hear you.

Hey, everyone. spider man cameo over there yeah anyway and i've also brought this bottle of topo chico just because if there's any one brand on planet earth i will shamelessly shill for it's them so please sponsor this segment that's so good to hear i love the way how you just fluidly roll that in there john john john so uh i wanted to bring all the rejects on cool and of course it was like well the first one has to be john if someone is going to come on this podcast it's got to be you we got to practice on John. We got to practice. You got to let all the kings get out of the way. With that in my paper, if you're editing this, John and I give you 100% permission to, because we're not

going to have time to review this to just put all the wrong inserts in. Yes. Let's us do the first podcast. This should be the most meme. Every time you think like where you think this is where an insert is supposed to go. Put the incorrect insert. I want to ride the line between information and misinformation. So like throw an authentic visual aid in every like third or fourth one. and then make everything else completely wrong. You'll learn visual gags here. But no, this should be like the smoothest,

most profound conversation and the easiest one to do, which has me nervous because this should be a slam dog. But watch us drive it into the ground. It's like, this should be so easily done. Watch us dig a hole so deep,

we disappear out the other side. What before we did that? I was like, well, what would be different about this than us just talking? I mean, obviously, people will get to know you better because I think, and I think anyone who knows you would probably attest to this is you are kind of this mysterious figure who you feel like you really know John. That's the way people operate in life. They feel like they really know him.

Oh, goodness. But then when you ask like actual facts about him outside of like, yeah, he likes Rob Zombie and guitar and like some like general stuff. but when you're like what is he what's his life like why is he the why of why you know like all these questions you find that most people don't actually know because you are such a great listener and you are so empathetic in your responses to people that you're often they say like to be interesting be interested and you are often a very interested individual and I think due to that it's very easy to feel like i really know john really click with him people can probably feel like your soul and your spirit and all that all that boring shit uh you know stuff that makes a human

yeah yeah all that sappy crap but i think like i mean if i can ask uh for you to just kind of open up today i think that would be kind yeah i know you're you don't like to give names as if in case something comes up and i'm not going to like try to go like hardcore i'm bringing receipts John Irby here, but you know, if there's a way to get a little bit more of the personal side of John, I feel like that would actually be a unique way of getting to know you. Okay. And also, like I was with my brother, I realized for the past few years, we just talk profile to each other. And now face to face, yeah, now it's like, don't look at the camera, look at each other. Look at each other. Wow, okay, this is weird. We don't even really look at each other when the camera's

not rolling. This is really strange. You know, so of course, John, I have a hunch as to what this answer is but i wonder if you're going to answer what i would answer for you you should answer every question and then i'll give you the whether or not that was true let's play wikipedia factor yeah it's gonna be like a real jo rogan podcast where i have you on to jimmy pull that up ted pull that up yeah you're just gonna be here to hear me talk about you who was your celebrity crush growing up and why uh you know i've thought about this question because i know that you ask it and on the christian harlough podcast you were like i this first every time.

So I feel like there's, yeah, there's definitely an answer that we would both share for this. We share? Well, none of that we share as in like it's our mutual crush, but that we would both think of because obviously I think the first, like part of me feels like maybe there's got to be somebody before that. But yeah, the first thing that comes to mind is, is Misty from Pokemon. Yes.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And that was back before it was acceptable and cool to have a crush on a cartoon. character you were a weirdo but yeah no misty but if we're talking about like actual celebrity crushes in thinking of this and certainly i i don't know most of what we're going to talk about today but i did at least consider this and yeah i think for me uh in terms of an actual human breathing celebrity crush it would have started with christina ritchie as wednesday adams oh fun and then it came back around with christina ritchie as katrina von tassel in uh sleepy hollow oh cool it's like a one-two punch

of just like oh i think what people really want to hear about is misty i mean you know she was just a ride or die and you could tell she was sensitive or she was tough she was fluid like water it's great she's a gym leader like what couldn't you love about that she shares ash's passion and my passion for being a Pokemon master for catching them all and you know to defeating every gym trainer out there you know what's not to love i you know in deflecting with humor in a relationship I like somebody who I can collaborate with or you know it doesn't have to be that but like I I've noticed that's especially joyous and Misty I could have you know we could have had that well okay so let's let's rewind here a little bit John and I have known each other since for I say we known each other since first we didn't become best friends still third because we didn't like we hated each other we just didn't really talk to yeah and then we were forced to sit at um when those weird classes where they have like four desks they pushed together into a square two of you're like each other. You're literally facing someone, so one, two students have to, like, turn over their shoulder to watch the teacher. It's a really, like, unproductive way or else I'm, like, looking across from me at the first.

Every one of these has to be diagonal, so we're all looking kind of that way. It's actually a terrible way. That's a whole their subject. Terrible way to teach. We will reshape the school system today. What if you're attracted to the person you're sitting across, you know, like, then you just like, then you might just develop a legit staring problem. Sure. It's the problems of the youth.

I mean, that's exposure therapy, you know. Anyway, so Chad and I sat next to each other. This is the hardest podcast to follow. We're going to start a hard time staying on track. And we were into fun. Everyone was into Pokemon. That was like the rape. Everyone was into Pokemon.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It swept the nation. And it was, the movie hadn't yet come out. I think that's when it started to kind of die down. The first movie. The first movie. Not Pokemon 2000. And when the first, so we, so we had the, the Pokemon soundtrack that came out.

And there was the Misty song. I love you. Yeah, where it was revealed that Misty officially had a crush out here in the quiet of the night beneath the stars, yeah, man. Was that confirmed on the soundtrack canonical? Was that the thing that got you into, did you have a crush prior or was it that song?

I think, no, that just added to the loveliness of like for a second there until, you know, I think she names Ash in the song. So you can only insert yourself so much into, you know, the cipher experience of that. But no, that just added. I added icing to the cake. Interesting.

Yeah, I don't know, yeah. Just for some reason, just the Misty vibes on the show and spending so many mornings and afternoons, you know, with Pokemon and being so into that anyway. Just I don't know, yeah, for whatever reason, she grabbed me. Well, what was her, what was the, how would you define her personality? Now, see, it's been so long since I've watched a Pokemon. I mean, you know, she's, she's not the most like, you know, I feel like Ash and Brock are both very sort of forward characters. whereas Misty is like certainly one who will like rise to a challenge and overcome but you know is like a little bit more timid at the outset but also you know she's kind of big sister as well you know she's sort of keeping ash and brock in line and two i don't know water just in general as an aesthetic and those kind of Pokemon like squirtle blastoys was my guy blois was my guy so like you know i feel like those are misty adjacent things anyway I'm going to see if I could draw a correlation here

I'm already picking up on some stuff now okay Christina Richie yeah what was it about Christina Richie that you were drawn to I don't know because like with Wednesday Adams it's there's just something about her that she was just I mean you know she's beautiful so like

that helps but like and she's got that kind of not that even I'm always attracted to that alien you know Tim Burton look but you know her version of that is super lovely and yeah I don't know for whatever reason Wednesday just kind of captivated me I don't even know how to quite describe it because I was young enough that you know you're just sort of like in awe of an enamored with and you're not even quite sure like Katrina Ventassel is easier to sort of be like oh yeah like this is it can have a greater sense for like what you would be interested in as like a mature more mature person I don't know like a childhood crush is interesting to me because I'm like yeah what is it like do you want to be this person's friend you know you you feel that sort of paying of like this is more than just friendly you know like a crush is like an affectionate thing yeah so uh i don't know i'm curious i like the wednesday is the one that i guess would need

unpacked at this therapy session absolutely i think that is the one to unpack so with her yeah would you say obviously you don't have to name any names because you're john please um is there from the women you've dated or been with or find yourself attracted to are there ways you could connect dots between wednesday adams at all but in terms of personality traits compared to some woman that you've perhaps been very fond of or perhaps very attracted to perhaps I mean well I mean there's that the goth aesthetic is certainly one I enjoy yeah that or you know it's an obvious one yeah yeah yeah like the aesthetics are easy to track and I think to just I don't know

the the mischief and the sort of like Wednesday is always in control you know and Wednesday is always like cool and calm well you know I mean not that that's always the flavor but sometimes it is the flavor thinking of three specific women that I know of in your life. I'm like totally Wednesday Adam buys. Sure yeah yeah very much see it now Wednesday is cool calm and mischievous and I think cool calm and mischievous is a really fun vibe and yeah that that like is a bit of a siren call to me I guess is sort of like you look interesting and sort of offbeat but also like adventure adventure would await with you I feel like between your first real girlfriend to your

not last girlfriend but one before last I would like oh yeah that's very much there but even the one in the middle there's some Wednesdays no no sure they all have Wednesday vibes certainly or at least a lot of them have had Wednesday vibes oh that's really interesting yeah okay well cool I actually never knew that about you yeah it was it was something that yeah I kind of discovered about me in preparation is the one little piece of prep I kind of did because I was listening, I was here for the other podcasts.

Spoilers to break the movie magic, but, uh, well, I got a, I got a little weird question about that then, because growing up with you, I knew that you were kind of known to be the one who was the most censored out of all of us. Like, you couldn't even watch, like, the Simpsons and stuff. And for a while, it was kind of funny, like, listening to, yeah, you don't want to make your parents look back. For a while, yeah. Well, you know, eventually we got there and then, and then it was sort of like we showed, we started showing them episodes to be like, see. like this is actually pretty great our sense of humor yeah it's very much a Humphrey household

sense of humor sure well with um what were we talking about we were segue we were segueing out of wednesday adams into into a sub Wednesday question yes okay so with the sleepy hollow side of the story sure how old were you when you saw sleepy hollow then roughly because to me i'm like that doesn't some of the kind of movie your family would have let you watch growing up yeah when did that I'm trying to think was that 99 or 2000 I feel like I actually did see that like as a teenager like close I think I don't think I saw it in theater I think it was probably brought home from blockbuster video as a rental and it always left an impression on me and yeah because that movie doesn't have anything that's overtly I think it's right at all right like there's gore yeah the bloody head treat of course now that I say that of course but yeah that that one I think by that time there's gore that was a little less fuss about like yeah i was probably had more latitude to watch you know more adult fair by that point in time i want to say not too long after the movie would have come out because that was also the time we're like once something was in theaters you had to wait like

forever for it to come out yeah so it's probably a couple years later yeah it was probably like in my tweens or teens i mean the humphrey household is a very interesting one to me because you guys are so tight-knit and so much of if you guys watch the reaction videos is very much like John and a Humphrey household you know you guys are very much a participating group sure sure yeah we we are a very mystery science they're kind of a thousand percent you guys also really get along very well it's like you guys are one of those families that actually seems like your friends and you actually hang out with each other yes we all live in the same apartment yeah right across the there's a naked guy across the street yeah but

But when you were growing up, though, with this, I was wondering, what was the most uncomfortable movie theater experience with them? Oh, boy. I feel like a lot of us have this with our parents and we don't really talk about it. I mean, a legendary one for me was back in the day, I remember getting so hyped about Blade when it was first coming out. And I had the, I would do this for other stuff. I'm sure the fight club notebook story will come up at some point here where I would just clip things out of the paper and like get fixated on just the poster alone So I like begged to go see blade and then we went and like in the first within the first couple minutes It became clear to me as like someone vaguely even aware of what I was seeing there. I was like oh that's a lot of blood

This is this is kind of weird to be in the right between the folks for and then pretty soon there was a hand over my face and we were back in the car like we didn't make it past the blood rave at the beginning and it was like yeah already i remember she grabbed that guy's crotch and then my i think my mom was starting to be like oh i don't know what we just walked into and then the blood started to rain from the ceiling and then it was like now we're gone so like that was that was a bummer and uncomfortable um what was the one that you sat through though like from beginning to end that's a fun one though there might be one earlier than this i think i mean the john meme movie, the first ever movie I learned to dislike. I think watching

Monkey Bone in the theater, I think I saw that in the theater with at least my dad and that was, yeah, I was like, oh, I didn't like that experience. But the one that I... Because of the movie or like uncomfortable. The content in the movie is what made you uncomfortable? Oh yeah. Like the whole

cartoon bit at the beginning where he's like doing the... Appetit. So I don't know. Oh yeah. There's like a cartoon at the beginning which in hindsight is like innocent enough but like at the time to it deals like it's a cartoon about a kid in class and he like gets an erection or something like that and he's like putting books on it and the teacher and it's like it's like a weirdly sexual little skit because that's the kind of movie it is and what bone means uh sort of the monkey bone is like the monkey bone is like the personified like lusty mischief you know monkey on your back as I am understanding I have only seen it that one time so part of me is like I should rewatch this and see you but I don't remember the truth is a brain and Fraser yeah and Dave Foley is in it a few other people I forget yes he's like the dead guy who I think they

transfer monkey bones sold I can't remember fully memory of the trailer yeah yeah yeah and it's like a Henry Selleck movie it was it was like the blend of yeah I think so check me on that Ted but I think it was a blend of stop motion and live action but that was uncomfortable the one that that that really comes to mind is my I we went to the movies my dad and I and he was he's very much sort of like he just likes to go and share that experience so he'll definitely be sort of like oh yeah whatever you want to see let's go so at the time i wanted to see saw too uh because i'd heard saw was cool and i was just like i'll check out this

saw movie let's go how bad could it be and uh and blessed my dad because he sat through it uh but i could tell he did not like that movie at all and i was i was really enjoying it but i was also like i don't want to really like indulge in enjoying this because like i also just feel strange that this is like so violent and all the characters are so harsh and yeah and in the car it was funny because in the car afterwards he was charitable about it he was like well i didn't guess the ending you know like they did keep me guessing i'll give them that or such your dad but uh so but yeah uh he was like i'll be happy to never watch any of those movies ever again but uh but yeah you know it was uh it was it was a fun awkward it was like endearingly awkward well it's funny picking this up because we were

just in the car yesterday and we were talking about experience we were having with like the agatha all along show and the reception that was happening at the time of us filming this this is uh after agatha episode six say it's right before episode seven yeah yeah so like um five days out of every 365 days in a year i tend to lose my cool on some people like you know that's my batting average i know i feel like that you never know when those five days are gonna come but they'll show up The many facets on the diamond of, you know, public interaction, you know, the line between just being people on the internet and having a show, you know.

You got to engage with your audience, engage. And sometimes. Then you get mad. Don't read the comments. What are you doing? Yeah. But hey, when you start raging back and forth, then that comment threat gets big, you know, people jump in and, you know.

Yeah. I always, nine times out of ten, it just makes it worse. Tax your soul for engagement. Yeah, that's exactly what it feels like. And then it got us talking about some other stuff because I was, it got us talking about rings of power, which is like not one of our big viewed stuff, but the reception specifically, as we were noticing like kind of a general reception, which is that we're trying to kind of figure it out together. And it was that I tend to get way more shit, even if we are like of pretty much the same opinion. Yeah, that's weird. I tend to get way more flack.

And I kind of saw it in action when it came to Venom 2. No, Venom 3. Last night when I went to go watch it. It's so funny. It was like a good microcosm for that. Because I was saying like it's weird how like maybe because I can be a little bit more like just very direct when I'm not liking something. Even in the heat of the moment of like a reaction like you, I've noticed you'll, you'll generally wait, you know. I like the process.

I like I often don't just know quite how I feel until I've had a second to collect it all. Yeah. So even if we end up the same same or similar opinion, it usually waits to like just the review part after a reaction to talk about it. Whereas like I might feel like I'm three-fourths of wait and I'm like, this is boring. You know, I just say that out of or make jokes to make. That's the other part that people misinterpret about us is that if we're making jokes, that means we're actually having fun with the show, not at the show. Normally if we're bored, we're not actually making jokes.

But anyway. So if you're bored, it's like, oh, God. don't know, make a noise or something, find something to comment about. Find something. So we got something cut to you, what? And I was, and a Venom 3, like when the movie ended, I was like, I really like that. And you, like, did not seem to like it, right? Like, in the theater, you didn't.

Like, you really didn't seem to like it. Sure. And I was surprised. And then when we do the review, I was like, oh, this is give a time when John gets crap. But then you managed to articulate it. And I'm like, wow, that's how he knows how to do really good with your language there. Because you know how to communicate. you know how to communicate in a way where I can just be like this boring this sucks

here's what I like da da da da da da but I also hate this this yeah just like especially if I really don't like something whereas what like what you just said about your dad was kind of eye opening to me of this sort of benefit I feel like there's a lot of reasons why you can be sort of the benefit of the doubt human being where even if you really don't like something you'll find a way to naturally still feel for the things you did like you could isolate things and like it yeah whereas i will isolate things out of like logic and sure sure this looks good yeah you know like this movie looks good that acting is good sure but that's not what i'm feeling right now what i'm feeling is this part of me that doesn't like this

and i'll and that's the part that can often get a lot of uh shit so then the jokes suddenly sound like I'm an asshole where it's like, you can make jokes and you'll be, you'll make a lot of sarcastic jokes. And then I was just finding myself going like, what is it that you do that I don't do of why this reception doesn't happen? Could just come down to the basic fact that you're probably just more likable than me in, in terms of general warmth that you exude with your empathy. Come on. You are such a warm guy.

You can, I mean, you can have fun, you know, cracking the whip of cracking wise, you know, but I can definitely see on camera how I can. come across is the not as warm guy because I like I like the contrast for song yeah so that's why and that gives me stuff like that gives us a bit of a straight man and you know whatever the not straight man guy is yeah well I'm just I'm just been rambling you've always been throwing me stuff and I I don't kind of catch it and be like ooh yeah I know we were really good at like the pass back forth you can you recorded that camera and Ted is it Ted once you cut that camera close the laptop behind me

He said, there's so much. You cut it. The camera cuts every 30 minutes. Ted. Do you need to wait? God damn it, Ted. So is that your parents when talking about stuff? I try giving like this really unfluid assessment of you.

No. Because as it was one of those things where as I was talking, my mind was fascinating. My mind was going further down of like, oh, but then also with the way John was treated in school. And then, oh, so as I was talking about your parents, I was getting this other visual in my mind. And I was like, wait a minute. There's something here, so in fact. So I will let you primarily talk now about like with your parents. Yeah, yeah.

Was that where you learn to kind of have a viewing experience from your parents? Are they like that? I feel like your mom. I've always heard your mom be a little bit rougher sometimes when it came to certain opinions. Ah, well. Or am I wrong about that interpretation? My mom can get interested in anything. She is the one of all of us who will like, I'll wander through the room and she will be

watching. She'll be totally engrossed in some of. random movie and and so I think part of me gets a certain sense of like yeah I'm kind of interested by everything in life and that pertains to movies too like there's not a genre or type of story I generally just don't want to hear about you know and it's easy to get pulled into anything and yeah I mean my dad certainly introducing both the you know filmmaking side of things to all of us and you know he was he and my I feel like my dad and my my everybody has their critical eyes I feel like my dad and my sister vibe in a certain way of like they will have a more I associate them as having a slightly more particular taste and a more sort of like might have been your sister I was thinking could be I mean yeah yeah like I feel like they vibe in the sense of like they will know exactly how they feel and some stuff is just not for them and they're not about it and like they can articulate that really well and my mom and I certainly like we'll both have things we don't like but generally I feel like we're a bit more not easy to please

but just sort of like more yeah I guess benefit of the doubty maybe I'm not I'm not quite sure what it is because you know I mean we all love and just enjoy being able to behold stuff like that but I guess for me yeah that that moment with my dad that that we mentioned before now in this moment anyway does kind of hit me to that idea of like he was aware that I liked the thing or was interested in the thing and so he you know at least bothered not to be dismissive that's I was thinking about this yesterday I was like that's the word that that I was looking for is like I care not to be dismissive if anything like I don't care I don't feel any like overwhelming pressure to like be super nice or like make sure to sugarcoat all criticism but like yeah what I don't want to do

is be dismissive a because you know it's I remember two times in high school and stuff like that and we talked about this before but yeah it's like you grow up and you learn that there are things and that things can be good or bad and then you learn that there's a valley of nuance between good and bad and especially growing up and high school experiences into film school and college like there became just that binary like the mr sunday movies rating scale just like best movie ever worst movie ever and anything that's bad is like got no quality to even entertain whatsoever like why would you even bother that this is trash some idiots made it you know like that that i don't care as much for as a flavor but all i really want

is just like an interesting expounding on anything like i don't care if you think something sucked like that's cool but when it stops there that bothers me yeah you know You know, so it's like I feel like most everything you see is, is okay or pretty good or kind of not good. And then certain things are great and terrible, but like everything is kind of an opportunity to see what worked and what didn't work. And I just find that fun. Like, it's just like a fun prompt to me. It always to some degree or another has been just like, hey, we get to take in a movie and like, hey, maybe it was successful or not. But a, yeah, a lot of people worked on this, which like isn't an excuse to not criticize it.

But, yeah, it's just like I don't have any interest in, in, you know, I don't care for dunking. If it's the two things I'm trying to avoid is being dismissive and dunking on stuff, which, you know, it's like people really enjoy that. And that's like a whole thriving lane of expression. It has been for history. And, you know, I can enjoy a roast or whatever or a rant. But, you know, in certain tones, like, I'll listen to, you know, 90 minutes of people talk about why borderlands doesn't work. As long as, like, the conversation about it is like, you clearly engaged with this and at least gave it a shot to. be what it wanted to be versus you know when certain commentary this camera recording

well got a timer said camera recording all right can you can you actually close that laptop yeah I didn't even know you meant that yeah I did be that for real that's funny I mean you know it's funny because it's true close the laptop uh yeah I last way to try to thought there that the the the the the The two hours of my life I'll never get back criticism is something that's never sat well with me if you're going to be in any kind of platform because it's like it's super cool to be able to watch stuff and get to talk about it and to bat it back and forth. And so that's all I want. I'm like if anybody saw this, I just want to be able to stand by whatever criticism I had and feel like I got the right words to articulate my feeling. Yeah.

But unless it's something that like unless it's something that feels like it was developed in bad faith or is like adversarial to the audience in a way that isn't artistically interesting. or it just seems like no one cared at all to put any hard work or effort into it. Like, then I might rant on something, but yeah, I'm not really compelled toward that side of things. Like most of the time I don't feel like dunking. Duncan can be fun and certainly people are great at writing it, but I remember like back in the old days when you would read reviews, sometimes I would read a review and be like,

I feel like you are serving your, you know, your writing voice more than you're actually serving the review of what this thing you went to see was. And I don't want to fall into that if I can help it. Yeah, but it can get you some clicks. Sure, thank you. I mean, and you know, I'm sure tomorrow will the next movie we review will be something that I'm just like incensed by. And I'm just like, let me tell you why this sucks.

But, uh, but yeah, if it's anything, yeah, I don't, I don't care to dunk and I don't care to be dismissive. If, if big eye, big eyeballs on characters and thumbnails. Yes. Yeah. I love the pitch, the pitch meeting style. Yeah. But I like all kinds of things. I like all kinds of YouTube channels and all kinds of reviews and opinions. And it's, it's really tempted and want to go down like the talk of YouTube and all that. But that's not why we're here. We could do that of any other podcast. By the way, I think when you meant with the Mr. Sunday movies, just as a quick clarification. That is, as we know it's a satire rate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To be clear. I was listening to the Joker, too, and they literally, I think it was that one or or it was in hindsight. of their joke or two review and they literally had to be like if you want to know the review listen to the review like the rating scale is a joke you know it's a thumb up or down you know yeah it's a satire

yeah and we were aware of that yeah yeah all the love and respect to mr sunday movies yeah well it's interesting talking about all these things with how your mindset around movies formulated yeah is watching movies with your family because i i do have like memories of just like sitting awkwardly because I didn't under when I said saying awkwardly not because your family is is uh we were all staring at you you're such a tribe you're not welcome you're not a humphrey what are you doing in my house he's not passing the scan what do we do I didn't have that level of comfortability with my family growing up that you had right where you guys just seemed to really you guys just talk at a table with each other and watching you guys like sometimes i be i remember i have like a very distinct

memory watching you guys like watching robin hood the one with russell crow and and uh ripping it apart while i was like way in the corner of the table and you guys are in the living room and i was watching i completely forgotten i've seen that that's my only experience to do that movie i didn't even finish it i only watched like a little bit of it is the come do you find that you are very comfortable with expressing not just your voice in your opinions but what about your emotions with them are you someone who like do you guys cry together uh if something's happening you guys hold back like what is the level of comfortability i know laughing together is something you guys share yeah yeah guys all have the same

laugh you guys all have the humphrey laugh yes we have a few you have the humphry scoff is a yeah that one if like something's just like a weird joke that you just yeah yeah it's like it's it's a it's a bemused a snort of some kind or yeah it's like a glottal something or yeah we certainly do i feel like i'm probably the most reserved at home for whatever reason i'm not even sure why i'm like i'm more because you save the tears for the camera that's right i'm bottling them up because nothing is worse than like finishing a cry movie you didn't cry during And everyone's like, I can't believe you, you're hard of stone.

What moves you? Yeah. If not that it hasn't happened, though. I think I probably cried when we all watched everything everywhere. This is the most recent time I could remember that. Yeah. And I mean, you know, I don't look around all that much when that's happening. Like, I guess I feel, I don't know, like it's weird.

I'm maybe a little bit more self-conscious than I would be just in a theater where it's like no one's looking at me. I guess it's that. It's like there's the potential for people to be looking at you and to be, like, checking what your response is, which I think is lovely and fun. And, you know, it says more about me that I should just be willing to be like, yeah, I know, right. But yeah, probably maybe a little bit more reserved that way at home. But generally, I feel like still very much, you know, especially if we're all sharing a movie or whatever, pretty upfront with how I'm feeling about it or whatever. what was the first movie you can recall that truly made you ball oh that's a tough one oh that's that's hard truly maybe the lion king oh really it could have been i remember one day i was just replaying the

the simba calling out for mufossa's you know scene in my head and i started to cry yeah yeah yeah completely yeah i just i was sitting there i remember it I was in like a Navy sweater. I was waiting to go to the park. It was back in the olden times where we had to be waited like drive to the park or something. And yeah, I was just for some reason, just, yeah, help, you know, somebody. Yeah, yeah. And just replaying that in my head certainly made me weep.

God, yeah, that's probably the first one. I can think of other notable times where like a movie would have moved me like that. But yeah, I guess that would be the earliest. All right. well i feel like we're warmed up i'm gonna go straight to the gut punch now cool let's do that cool um so you experience this is something i don't think a lot of people really know about you is and i feel like this would actually explain a lot of your extreme empathy because there's two versions of how an individual can turn out extreme empathy yeah take you to an idols

concert baby my favorite thing is when we're laughing and then i glance over to ted and he's just not emoting at all. That's a good P.A. And you're like, damn it, is this what it's like on YouTube when we're making jokes and this is the people in the comments who are annoying by us? It's okay. He's the comment box. He's like, stop making jokes.

I came here for the therapy. Take it seriously, guys. This is a classic. All eyes on you now today. Anyway, Ted, but I was asking John. I don't know what is that? We're cutting to the throat. Gut punch time.

There's been two versions I've seen of what happens with individuals and kind of become this amalgamation of it all in a weird way and I feel like your fam I talk so much about your family because I feel like your family in a weird way has a weird way in a really positive way has helped ground and save you from what I've seen happen with a lot of other people like you were very much we went to the same school of 30 kids from were you there in kindergarten okay so you're there in kindergarten from first to eighth grade first to eighth grade first and I was there um you were bullied for like you were the one

who people bullied you were the one who people targeted like you were that kid the cliche the Peter Parker before he had spider powers right yes before I grew my hair that that's who you were and that probably ended around like eighth grade

time I feel like this one started to subside started to transition I think I think at that point I remember even like at the eighth grade we all got to eighth grade and we're like man we all made it through this together we're all right I don't know like loved you but you're everyone's dicks to you and like i i had my moment in time with john where i would be that way and i would i remember like crying to you on the steps in like our 20s have been in apology remember that

i remember i remember if i remember if i remember if i remember that you're like but dude you don't remember i apologize like really heartfelt about what i did when i was a little kid to you just ring a bell i've just participated what did you do me as a kid and uh john being the john is like it's all right I get it man I know you're probably going through something or whatever you just didn't know me

the same way as you now like whatever stuff happens but I kind of feel like that has helped shape your outlook on films as well more than just your family because I say your family

from what I've observed because of how your family is just known to be very loving and tighten it and sure you guys get in your little squabbles like any family does it doesn't sound like the true traumatic

like shit you hear from like a domestically violent. No, right, not like at all. Like you, and I see it. Like you guys really do get along and you guys really do, like it is a very nurturing environment with each other. Yeah. And I feel like that really helped allow you, at least my interpretation, to still be able to socialize and be able to not just become a hardcore introvert because I feel that like introvert,

extrovert or whichever way it is for you. I feel that like, a ambivert, I think is the term now. Yeah, you're that cool guy. You can, like, bring a notebook to, like, a busy-ass club. And somehow, a girl will still approach you. It's from, like, whatever. There's nothing in the book. It's just scribbles.

My handwriting is just that bad. So I think that's a really cool idea. But I kind of see it in the way of how oftentimes you will look at movies and such. So it got me curious about a very specific movie question. I'm not sure you've ever thought about. Is there a movie character where you did see yourself the moment? in regards to the subject matter, where you felt that you identified to it. Maybe it doesn't have to be so literal in terms of bullying,

but perhaps the emotion that it generated. Are you good? Yeah. Yes. Thank you. They're asking if we have a car in the garage. We have two, in fact. We state, we keep this in the video.

What's going on, Ted? Do we move the cars? I just asked a really deep question, Ted. That's what we like. this is the random you know little variables we like to throw in to keep things interesting it took like two

three interruptions to get this question now we have to move the car this is good yeah leave everything rolling this is in real time so you answer the question yes yes what was the question what like a movie character

that I would have identified with I don't know if it's the first but what comes immediately to mind was I remember seeing super bad and really vibing with the Michael Sarah character being like, oh, that's a version of me. Like, you know, like, I know at least

this part of the dynamic and two, like, you know, Seth and Evan aren't uncool, but they're also not in any click or crowd, you know, and that sort of matched a lot of my experiences. Like the thing about, you know, growing up in elementary and junior high and stuff was like,

yeah, once you get to eighth grade and everyone's like, ah, you know, we're all together. Like, there is that within, that was at least inability to kind of bounce between groups because every group or person is sort of mercurial and even people who are not always prone to being kind to use will sometimes be and then throughout high school certainly like I don't feel like at a certain point I found a few kind of communal homes but yeah I was often kind of feeling like I was bouncing between all the groups that existed so I feel like those characters kind of match that and just sort of yeah the

awkward like you know kind of semi shy but wanting to you know you have to have all the aspirations of like being cool and being the party hero or whatever in some way, shape or form and that movie for whatever reason spoke to that sense of like, you know, I crave a certain amount of adventure, but I'm also sort of, yeah, feeling like this sort of odd little margin creature or something. But yeah, I don't know. That comes to mind. Just the emotional display on, you know, that character throughout the movie just sort of matched vibes I would have been feeling certainly. What character of the opposite sex do you think you identify with the most oh you know uh for whatever reason i i always identified with uh at least up to a

certain point i obviously not all of this story circumstances apply to me but uh peggy on madman uh was always a character i sort of felt i don't know like especially early on you know she's uh kind of well-meaning and and fresh-faced but like you know is is learning how to kind of contend with you know the the pace and the needs and the sort of like thick skin you need to have to do all these things and she's in this field it's like somewhat that's both creative but it's also you know there's a certain amount of pace and and you know uh sort of that character is called to rise out of that uh you know i don't know shy state or whatever um and so for whatever reason yeah that was a character that always kind of clicked with me and i always felt kind of resonant with um god i know there's

know there's like another answer to this but uh it'll it'll come to me as we go john will shoot it on his phone and insert it in i'm totally the type of yeah see that's the thing no is is like it usually you know i'm trying to let go and just kind of be more uh accepting of the fluidity but yeah like any on the spot question he's just like uh what is an actor what are characters uh there's so many well here's one you know like here's one that comes to mind and then afterwards i'll be like oh i know the exact one well let me i mean the advantage of knowing you as i could specify a little bit this a little bit more of this stuff is Ed Wood the movie Ed Wood you've decided that as your favorite yeah what is it about the character that you like for me when I think of Ed Wood that's the man

I fear being the most that is my biggest yes that's that's what I feel a lot yeah like so why is it the one that clicks with you the most and what is it about maybe not the real life Ed Wood but the portrayal of that of that wood that really it's for you yeah i mean that yeah it's like the nightmare of who you don't want to be and um but i guess yeah that movie really nicely encapsulates at least through its own filter this portrait of somebody who's really passionate and who has like a vision and who goes for it despite whatever the outcome will be and i i heard a ted talk uh that left a big impression on me not long ago that was it was a short one it was by ethan And it was basically coming to grips with the idea that, you know, once you've made anything, the reception to it is sort of out of your hands and you have to be willing to play the fool and willing to just kind of put all that you have into whatever the thing is. And then from there on, once you finish that process and put it out into the world, it's done. And so Ed Wood is a movie that I think really speaks to that in a way. And so, like, yeah, you don't want to be Ed Wood. And it's scary to think that you could be, but you also just have to take the risk of being that, you know. And how old were you mean, was.

Roughly, what's your rough guess that you saw it when you first saw it? I mean, like 14 or something like that. And you really, did you find that you identified with it, like when watching it at that age? I probably didn't fully understand what I was, I probably didn't quite have these, you know, terms to put it in. But yeah, I mean, it's certainly the misfit element that's about a bunch of sort of esoteric oddball people who are, you know, kind of endearing in their own way. And they're all just trying to get together and make something cool. And also it's packaged up like, you know, old monster movies that I grew up watching and stuff like that. So, you know, from both the aesthetic angle, but also the, you know, treatise on, you know, just like the artistic process that it is.

And then, yeah, it's just like a portrait of a character who I'm sure in the movie is a bit more lovable and sympathetic to some degree or another. Just, yeah, all those elements. It has like a wistful quality that I enjoy. I think bittersweetness is something that I particularly resonate with in any kind of art. And certainly that movie has that, but it also has, you know, a sort of heartfelt passion for, you know, all that this is. And, you know, you look back and you're like, well, you know, hailed is like the worst filmmaker of all time. But that's kind of an interesting mantle to have because nobody gives that there are some truly bad unwatchable movies that'll make you mad. And those movies don't get that mantle.

You know, it's like stuff you enjoy watching. So like even in there is like the paradox. You don't want to be Tommy Wiseau or James Nguyen or whoever. I mean, like, maybe you do, though. Because, like, you know, that thing is interesting to me. And it's at the core of what excites and scares me about creating anything. You achieve that by accident. Well, yeah, yeah.

That's the thing, yeah. You've got to be striving for greatness, but what kind of greatness is not up to you? And I think that's the best of the worst. Yeah, and it's like terrifying. And it's in some way, like, the biggest obstacle I find to overcome in terms of like creating things, but also, like, Like, that is the process to me is sort of like embracing that and creating in spite of that. And look, we made a movie that's great that's in the style of these B movies that people don't think are very qualitatively good.

Like, there's so much intersection. What does good even mean, you know? Yeah, of course, I got what you mean. Yeah, so that's all kind of wrapped up in that movie. My cat Freddy loves to be brushed and cuddled. But stirring up his cat allergens meant sneezing and itchy eyes. then I found Purina 1 LiveClear. It's cat food that reduced the major allergen

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See mintmobile.com. What was, let's, let's dissect this a little bit because, I mean, you might not know it from all the. it's a variety of reactions that we do on this channel but john is before we just really went hardcore movie reactions like horror was is and undoubtedly was and is your genre so what was the scariest horror i like asking this question could you know though i feel like you might know the answer is the scariest movie theater experience you had scariest movie theater experience one comes to my it was really fun too i'm trying to

to think if there was anything where i was just like oh god i'm not sure i want to be here there's probably something when i was like too young to remember quite what it was i mean i remember the last time i was really like jumping and sort of like oh god i don't want to see what's around the next corner was when we went to that drag me to hell test screening oh yeah was uh that was like the most simultaneously scary and fun i think a movie had been for me and it was one of the last times i remember being in the theater and being like scared to some variety or another that was one the scariest movie theater experiences for me for sure yeah that was that was that was that That was like, it was a test screening.

So we didn't see it, we knew anything before we went in. And so they were like, you want to watch the PG-13 or the R-rated version? Yeah. And we're like, we'll go to the R-rated version. Yeah, yeah. It's terrifying. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like, you know, there might be something more, you know, nasty.

I don't feel like people really say that about the movie now. But yeah, yeah. But at the time. At the moment. Yeah. I mean, you know, I remember going into, I remember going into human centipede and being very nervous like the movie itself didn't scare me that way but that was the last time I was in a theater being like I don't know man maybe I'll leave well I think the big question is then why do you love

horror so much oh man well it comes back to Halloween first and foremost because some of my earliest memories are like you know the holiday yeah yeah yeah absolutely yeah the the actual just ritual cultural experience of yeah decorating and I grew up near a pretty elaborate this really cool haunted display that they would do every year that doesn't exist anymore. It was called the hallowed haunting grounds. And, uh, and yeah, I always remembered being very just sort of enamored with that kind of stuff and, you know, having those formative moments of like, at first kind of going through and not fully understanding and then sort of becoming scared of it and then overcoming that fear and then coming to really enjoy this ritual every year and having

it to look forward to. And, and then from there you sort of spread out into like combine that with cinema house, you know, eventually you find horror movies. And yeah, For whatever reason, just, you know, big old spooky haunted houses and thunderstorms and, you know, howling and stuff like that just always has gripped me for one reason or another. And then beyond that, I mean, you can, yeah, do all the exploring that, you know, we've trotted and, you know, the analysis of like, why do people love horror? Like, yeah, you get the safe space to explore harsh and, you know, unsettling things. And I think that's fun. And I don't know. yeah it's I'm always curious about this because I have so many like ideas as to why but I feel like I'm not I'll never be fully sure because yeah part of you goes like why do you love all this you know sometimes my mom would ask like why do you love all these violent ugly movies or whatever but uh I don't know I feel like stuff is interesting about that and you can have fun while exploring the harsher more difficult aspects of life or see things that you would never ever see or want to see in an environment where you know it's kind of fun this just popped in

my head i've never thought about this till right now yeah um you know you haven't seen the office have have you like the james spader season not much of it i've seen like an episode or two he's got this great speech in there where he's like everything is sex it just goes into why i think i think i've seen this clipped a little bit yeah it's so funny but for some reason if my mind kind of flashed to that speech everything is horror but it made me think about that is is kind of like how some people try to think about how to say this because of the freaking platform this goes on youtube without like getting in trouble here is that you know sometimes we have like experiences growing up with our families and whatever that might translate into the way we like to

sexually experiment and you know we might be drawn to certain types of things or whatever and so i kind of feel like with horror we have our own real life horrors that we deal with and And this is part of like, it's kind of like a kink that we're experiencing. I think, yeah. I feel that's like my little theory that just popped into my head of a maybe. No, I think that's, that's absolutely. I don't mean like we're like sexually getting off on horror. I mean, some people might, but I'm saying like sometimes when we watch these things is it's like for me, supernatural horror terrifies me because growing up Catholic and really believing in Catholicism growing up and in, in, and the.

the afterlife and the dead and ghosts and stuff that I think because of that there's that I'm experiencing the kink of horror of being terrified when watching these movies yeah yeah I don't know if you get where I'm going with that I think so because like all that stuff roots back to something else and then yeah if you think like you know I am I often find just like everyday waking reality kind of bewildering and unsettling at times and and yeah there's a lot of anxiety that goes into like little things and then there are the big scary things to think about it like yeah like in a way everything is there's horror in everything yeah and i think that's yeah certainly cathartic is like there's horror is one of the most broad genres there's so many subgenres and there's so

many kinds of yeah horror you can explore there and so like supernatural stuff doesn't get as far under my skin but stuff that's like about real life you know depravity certainly will like kind of unsettle and disturb me and make me sort of question every shadow a little bit. Because there's a lot of worries and fears that we might just conjure up. Like conjure. And it might be like random worries and fears that we get. And I feel like that's why, you know, I've heard some women tell me that, I'm not saying it was the kids raw women.

I just heard some women tell me this that that's why like a true crime often is appealing to women. Yeah. And you go toward the thing and you kind of, it's almost like a form of exposure therapy. and so much of true crime is about what happens to the victims are a lot of times women in and then but women but a lot of women love that like the market for true crime often seems to be women yeah you know and it's like but why is that who and it's like the terrible thing for that and and so i can imagine i've i kept there's got to be like a different vocabulary for it other than the word kink that's just like

the analogy i was able to well there's like a tabooness about it yeah and like horror is always like the and there's too there that quality of like horror for a time or in certain you know context is like the bastard genre like you know it's not the most respected genre it's had to kind of claw its way to the elevated horror days yeah uh and it's you know it's a place where yeah like i guess the cinema misfits would congregate before and i and i and too like you to interrupt do you see what i mean about what you just said yeah no totally 100% that works within your personality of everything we've talked about yeah that is what we've talked about who john was growing up yeah and i and i would meet later like you know a lot of people i

would notice I would meet involved with like horror stuff would often be quite nice. Not to say there aren't, you know, predators and bad folks there because they live in every place. But, uh, but yeah, I've noticed a streak of empathy and a lot of horror adjacent folk. And that at a young age probably helped draw me further, certainly. I've noticed with you, it's like sometimes a lot of time, a lot of times you might. Sometimes a lot of time always, uh, I'm really speaking well today. It's good thing we have a podcast. The best words.

It's okay. I'll keep thinking about which I'll keep thinking about some of these previous answers to come up with updated answers to you'll be drawn to outcast people who are misunderstood and I noticed your mind will off

it could be like this with movies or shows or characters and you won't really be drawn to it if it's like a popular thing like I'll give you a great example in a very recent one you don't seem that enthusiastic about Joker 1 or like defending him not so you don't like it like you'd like it like it's fine but that's like oh you would think that would be the one of the ones I'm talking about sure the outcast and stuff but the movie's like so much about him being an outcast and everyone wrote for him but the response by the public in in terms of movie audiences he was accepted yeah yeah and then joker to a billion dollars for yeah Joker 2 comes out audience doesn't accept this yeah but then you'll come in and be like well

Well, maybe. Yeah, that's a, you're like, but you know, I kind of like it now. That's a fantastic example because that's an instance where I'm like, well, it's not just trap. Like there's, it's so maddening because there's so much good work in there. And it's worth at least acknowledging that stuff because I would be less upset if it was just that bad, you know, if there was no, you know, good work being squandered among the other, you know, the foibles of the movie or whatever.

Yeah. So is that why you, my theory has been like, is that why you, you are so drawn to the voice of Rob Zombie? Because Rob Zombies often critically pan, audiences seem so very if you on the guy too. And you are so enthusiastic about the guy. And I like him overall. Like, I really do, you know, I believe I saw a few of his movies before you did. Like, I really liked the title of the channel was inspired from The Devil's Rejects. And so I really did, like, love that movie, you know, after that. It's kind of really if you with Rob Zombie. Sure. So why do you, do you think this is why, perhaps? I'm not trying to be, you know, the power of suggestion here. I'm just, I'm really asking. It's in there.

It's in there, certainly. I don't know if that's what initially drew me to him, but it's certainly probably in the soup now. I mean, Rob Zombie exists at this crossroads that's just like a whole bunch of stuff that's for me. and also within that I find his particular voice and sensibility compelling and interesting for some reason. And certainly there are better movies of his than others and there are certain ones that I would choose to like go out of my way to argue about like I'll argue on behalf of certain ones more than others. But yeah, it's a combination of like I like the pastiche of aesthetics that he is often throwing together. I feel like his process is interesting and he at least always to my eye has a. a distinct vision and whether it's being referential or not, it's usually not being like

as in your face about that stuff as certain other people can be. So I feel like he to me has a unique voice and embodies that sort of scuzzy 70s era that he's often hearkening back to in a way that feels authentic to me and that feels kind of rare and he blends together this compelling ugliness that I often very much enjoy. Like, you know, some of, it's weird. Like horror can be very ugly and I like ugly art sometimes or I like art that uses ugliness or harshness as many as part of the paints in the palette you know and I feel like he does that in a way that really feels distinct at least to me and certain ones are more sort of like oh he's just doing his thing and then other ones where I'm like oh yeah this is a

swing like these days I'm like man I wish he could get a a budget to try another lords of Salem or something that's like a little more out there yeah but yeah just His blend is just for me, generally, and he, especially through the music, it's like, you know, I like a lot of different kinds of music, but I like, you know, that blend of loud rock, but it's not so overwrought that it makes you feel bad. Like, it's still fun most of the time, and it's conceptual and it's based in all these movies and things that I love. And, and yeah, it's kind of just all the things right there. And he's making movies. He's making music. He's existing. He's painting. He's doing all sorts of stuff that I love and I like his versions of all that. So, yeah, it's just a big soup. And then, you know, too, you come back around and everyone's dogpiling on the Munsters. And yeah, I want to be like, come on, guys. Yeah, exactly.

But, uh, but, uh, but yeah. I don't, I wouldn't say that like the, that's the number one or even in like the top five reasons I'm drawn to him. But it certainly is now part of the thing because, yeah, I feel like I'm in the minority of, you know, Rob Zombie enthusiasts. Because you, you mean, okay, to clarify something way earlier in this conversation, you're like, the mantle of the movie of monkey bone is like, because John was known to like, like everything. Yeah. Still kind of sometimes gets that reputation. And Monkeybone was like, the first movie John can use.

Yeah, I didn't like that one. And I think the misinterpretation that happens is you're not like a contrarian. You know, like just be a contrarian is often like this is popular. So let me tell you why it sucks. Yeah. This sucks. Let me tell you why it's good. It's just you usually find a genuine way to the heart of something.

Most things are just all right. And so I don't feel like I need to say anything sucks that's just all right. Like, I agree. I don't know. Yeah, I certainly, I remember too having that angst about like, I don't just like everything. I got to start coming up with some criticism. But I am grateful that and I think you've, you. McCoy Johnro is dealing with this past.

Yeah, I mean, you know. Shout out to court. I got to start not like his shout out to call. Well, and I mean, too, I think that's fun. Like, that's part of the fun is that, yeah. certain people are just quite enthusiastic in their own way. And as long as I can understand where you're coming from, I'm good, you know, like have that opinion.

And so, yeah, I certainly felt a pressure at a younger age to, like, be a bit more critical. But I feel like now, and especially for a long time, like, and you certainly helped me get more comfort of, you know, you have to bridge that gap of, like, realizing that, like, criticisms, okay, and not everything's going to be great. And you can still be really chuffed on something that, yeah, might have blemishes on it. You know, you don't, just because there are criticisms doesn't mean you don't have to enjoy it also you know you can hold those two things in mind yeah and now I feel very comfortable just letting something hit me and saying how I feel about it and a lot of the

time yeah like I do care to acknowledge in whatever movie what might be working like that's the fun to me of any prompt that's when we went into twilight I made a conscious decision I was like I know people clown on these movies I know that that it's easy to want to come in here and be like let's roast this thing and I'm like I want to actually see what this is trying to offer me and see if I like that and see what about it might be good and what about it might actually be bad and that's way more fun and interesting to me and I feel like I try to apply that to everything movie wise that's beautiful I also came up with a couple answers to that previous question oh you got yes I think the previous question you asked me what

like on screen like a like a leading actress performance or whatever that I would have resonated with or something did you think about this when I was talking well what it clicked in no I was talking you know it came to me out of no because it's related to the other two because there's like a Bermuda triangle of Christina Ricci because she's like the leading Casper and she's you know like a little bit of the misfit again it's that misfit thing of like she's just in this big haunted house and she's just like a well-meaning kid but she's also yeah having these sort of coming of age struggles and stuff like that and then eventually through spooky hijinks like finds love like

that's yeah you're gonna be getting me to realize how much Christina Richie really was like a big part of the 90s yeah just like only realizing that now or like the sister really is like the new christinergy she really is yeah totally and i mean i'm sure they're like i still feel like there's another more definitive answer but yeah like her and i remember the little sister in hocus pocus definitely it was like oh yeah that's kind of me a little a little bit i feel like for me even though it was not about me but you know once in a while thrown something about me please is uh the the girl in eighth grade oh i want to see that i still haven't seen it uh what you you're the one of you this guy introduced me to

burdom before everyone knew who over or you show me like weird videos that's like underground fans of boberton before it became like a youtube sensation when it was just 3.1 for wow oh no man bobert that movie for sure i'm surprised it's kind of surprising you see like oh a dude in his 20s wrote this um when it feels so app like i got so much anxiety watching it oh i feel like that movie will hit me like a train when i finally see it because i have a feeling i will probably heavily identify with the L.C. Fisher character. Wow, that is shocking that you haven't seen that. I hoard stuff I haven't seen now. I've had the, it's so funny to be in the position that we're in. That's so wild. Because I used to, you know, through film school and being in film

communities throughout, you know, town, you have that pressure of like, I'm going to see everything or at least come across. Like, I've seen a lot. And now I'm sort of like, oh, good, opportunities. All these things I haven't seen. I got to save this for the right moment. Ted, what's a female character that you identified with female character you identify i'm not asking the i feel like you're phrasing the question was more nuanced to than i'm putting this is the question i'm going to come out of here thinking about oh fast and furious yes baby yeah yeah yeah julia roberts pretty woman i'm christian harlop's first crush there's another movie i don't think i've seen all of and it's on the list we have hey you got one ted

i'm not going on the spot yeah see ted knows what i'm talking about be fine on the spot tech it's poked your head into camera here for a sec yeah let's choose to help me choose some can no on my side help me choose some questions i have like a billion questions that i could ask any episode and i rarely rely on these because otherwise i'm just going to get focused on like uh-huh uh-huh just that's a question correct what just choose one that you think might be of interest number nine number nine it's oh my god this is funny that you chose number nine Because earlier today, John said, well, I know if you asked me this question, I know my answer is. Do you know what the question is?

I have a follow-up question. Is it, do I want to relive an experience exactly as it was with a movie for the first time? That's the question. Or do I? The question is, what movie do you wish you could experience for the first time again and what? Or do I want to repeat like a do over of that? If it's like reliving the experience, I think it would be so much fun to. to go back to that day we saw trick-or-treat like that was one of the most fun like again test

screening no idea what we're walking into i've never seen anything like this i think that was even before i had seen like a creep show first anthology yeah so i was like this is so weird i don't even know how i feel about this yet and then it became one of my favorite movies in it and you know as a halloween kid and specifically like you know horror movies and hollinois are not all synonymous with each other and yeah it's like the official horror movie of that i was like oh this is everything everything I love. If I could like, I don't remember very much. That was a test degree, by the way.

It was not like a year before it ever came out. Couple. They shelved it for a couple of years. And we were silent. I never got a theatrical release and it was like amazing. Now it's like a huge cult film. And now it's yeah. And now it's got its place in the in the pantheon.

That or just men in black again just to have like a more vivid recollection because that's such a great. And like to go back and see that for the first time, I think we'd be great. Because that movie holds up and it's like, you know, an achievement of any time nice answer is so not children in man i will go back i would i would do that one over so i could pick up on one very specific thread of symbolism yes that i feel very silly not making the direct connection to that i got like 45 questions here ted you're gonna have to be jumping in and out i got like a bunch that was only one page you can just just choose just choose

you can scroll you can do whatever you want with this laptop right now it's all you ted's all you teddy This is how hard I work. No, it's good. You got to learn how to delegate tasks. This is good, interactive part. Pretty soon we'll have, like, a viewer be able to tune in, look at your list and choose a question themselves. We get an interactive portion of the show, you know, have some patrons come on or whatever. It's weird.

I forget all these questions. And when I'm reading them, like, these are really good questions. Yeah, I am a good interviewer. If only I can remember these on the on the spot right there. No, no, it's real, man. It's charming. Right. See, look, even Ted.

it's the art for ted to decide too because tens are like these are good questions yeah yeah he'd have a really fleshed out diary you know absolutely i gotta bring this diary gimmick and hey thought of a good way is the diary it up is like if i tell people beforehand like what's your favorite film quote and why and like we should end it like if we get like a diary and you sign your film favorite film quote yeah and then that's a good one i like that yeah oh oh that's a tuffy too there's so many good quotes which one is it 13 13 all right do you want to ask it ted oh sure put your put your mouth in there to you got close come on ted come on ted to get close to the mic ted you got to get really close ted what's the most

unforgettable movie quote you've heard and why is it to stick with you what's the most unforgettable movie quote i've heard and why does it stick with me oh that's working later now yeah i mean i the the the first one that comes to mind is from edwood and i put it as one of my high school yearbook quotes uh for senior years year was when he meets orson wells in the bar and he's you know he's venting about how terrible production is going and orson wells you know kind of meets him there and he's like oh yeah i'm dealing with you know when i was working on cane i was dealing with all this shit and and he gives him this little nugget and i don't know if he actually said it but the pearl i think is great which

is uh he said visions are worth fighting for why spend your life making someone else's dream is uh beautiful i forgot that yeah yeah and that always kind of just stuck with me as a nice little like guiding light i love the flaw behind that remember Jim Carrey's like college commencement speech had something very similar about what his dad said yeah yeah yeah I mean I feel like yeah it's like a trot in probably adage but it always jumped out at me from that movie in particular what's the thing about adages though and I find I find the question about quotes really interesting because I'm I got so many quotes that are not film that are like ingrained in me they're literally like

carved into my cerebellum like yeah I just live by them so much so and it's so easy to disregard a quote. It's so easy to just take a quote and put it up on Instagram or something like that and like swipe past it or just think it's a cliche. But I'm like, well, some cliches are cliches because they exist. Yeah, because they prove themselves true time and again. And like the end, some of these quotes like that are very true. And that's something really difficult to abide by it. I think that I think that's actually a really good quote. Uh, what's the exact quote again? As I remember it, it is visions are worth fighting for why spend your life making someone else's dream. Dreams dream one of those.

That's beautiful, especially in a day and age where I think comparison is, I've heard like comparison is the thief of joy. And I think a lot of us have heard that. And I think that social media in particular has sort of cultivated more comparison just by the fact that you can just see everything. Yeah. And everyone has the power of editing to make things look sweeter than they are or everything look like it's great.

Always. Yeah. So I think staying true to your own unique vision is even harder nowadays. So it's so easy to subscribe to what do they want? What do what are people looking for? Yeah. Instead of just kind of doing what you want to do and maybe meeting a halfway. If you care about your audience, I feel like you sort of meet halfway.

Yeah, it's like you can't do it just to please an audience. But I feel like, yeah, if you're putting your all into it, you probably will at least bring something that shows that you had enough respect for the audience to you to put your effort in yeah that's a really good quote or whatever ted rule of three said ted rule three three's tag in clueless another lady character i heavily identified with growing up uh brittney murphy rest in peace i love her so much and i'm sad she's not sure i'm i'm trying to tell the longest yard story when when when oh let's go let's go favorite of jobs hey oh yes that is that is definitely uh the Once John did this thing about longest start, I was like, this will forever be the way I describe what it's like talking with John.

That is, I can't even argue because it is one story. I'm like, perfect. Thank you. That's a good example of what often happens in my brain and you can map it over onto other things and be like, oh, I see what's happening here. What you got, Ted? 17. Ted, you got to read it. Ted, use that podcast voice. Ted. This only extends so far, Ted. You get your mouth into it. All right. What's the most emotionally powerful series? you've ever watched and how did it affect you oh good one you came up with that yourself good one oh man most emotionally powerful scene i've ever watched i don't i don't i mean i don't know if

it's recency bias but i will say and this will make a lot of sense i'm sure um but that scene in everything everywhere where waymond is making the plea at the end he's like the whole we got to be kind especially when we don't know what's going on speech like that that speech kind of hit me like a ton of rocks like a ton of bricks like in the in the theater i was i think i was already kind of crying through that movie uh but that moment kind of yeah this grabbed me in the soul and i was like oh yeah man i feel you i feel that you know and that's another like that's a character certainly that i would throw on like the identifiable board you know absolutely you want to be cool alpha wayman but you're probably just regular timeline waving whenever whenever

people say to me about like all you care about is money it's it's like I have to bring up like a YouTube no one never likes to hear about the YouTube business side of things like like like the audience generally doesn't like hearing about that because then it just sad it's interpreted everything is very tribalism thinking I've just sort of come to believe now you know it's like yeah and no matter what yeah and it's got to be this versus that I don't we can't just like no it's just a variable of some of a bigger thing yeah everything everywhere at once was the channel trailer for a long time because that was the the video that

um i undoubtedly had the most emotional experience ever i've cried in several movie reactions but that was one where i was like uncontrollably sobbing to the point where i was like kind of embarrassed yeah because it feels like it's it's so bouncy and fun but it feels like it's also like unlocking a piece of your soul or something like yeah i brought the money thing because i'm like that video It got hit with the Yellow Dollarville sign, I believe, because of that one butt plugs. Sure. And I could. Shout out to Andy or Brian.

And then it got blocked in certain countries. I fought the appeals for blocked just to get it visible because I love that movie. I just wanted to show that experience. It was a challenge trail for a long time. And even though you put that there, you want your channel trailer to be something that could generate revenue. And I was like, no, I just love this movie. I want to share it with people. Yeah.

It's not even about the money on this one. but that's that's beautifully sort of in the spirit i feel like with that movie that that one yeah left a huge bunch of impressions that was the best movie man that scene for sure is one and also i remember very much being hit by once you see fruitvale station you'll understand but i remember like really taking a break to sob like after that movie for whatever reason damn the second person bring it up now i really feel like i got to watch a girl so before it's spoiled for me yeah yeah yeah and it's not the kind of movie you think it is which makes the the heartbreak that much more and then i can't think of an individual scene from it but i do remember the way way back was a movie that i i remember

being in a very sort of emotionally fragile place going to and then i watched it like two or three times in the theater that day and was just sort of like really hit hard by the whole thing so i just i don't know for whatever reason i felt the need to shout that movie out perfect love to hear it let's on a really positive note let's go um can you recall a movie that made you want to revisit your childhood or reconnect with your roots. Ooh, that's a tricky one. That's a good question. Hey, that's a great question, Coy, Gondro.

Everything everywhere has that thing where it makes you just want to, like, go check in with all of life and sort of be in a truly vulnerable emotional being. And it has a strong message of like family bonds and stuff like that. So, I mean, I guess that's the first thing that would spring to mind. you mean that would like take me back to the flavor of you you mean something that's encapsulated in the experience of a movie like this movie is kind of about these emotions that would bring you back home to something from you know the past or to youth or more is it like an experiential thing like oh we watched this a bunch growing up so like I would want to

go back and be transported that way is it like you know I've said the former yeah yeah the latter's good I mean yeah yeah yeah space jam the next generation what was the space James to God I feel like that's there's it there's probably something else but that movie I remember very much got me thinking in that kind of direction about just like life and how to be and how to live and how to interact with the people during the time that you have mm-hmm you know and I mean it's either that or like a movie about making movies or something like that like you know like an Ed Wood would also kind of serve some parts of that because again like

growing up certainly I grew up with like a lot of monsters movies and old black and white stuff and you know the marks brothers or whatever else so like yeah that that sort of misfitiness takes me back to youth and that also found family sort of you know consortium thing brings me back to something i remember being very comforting as a kid and then also the aesthetics i like as a kid like those those movies come to mind anyway okay all right i can find the definitive answer this is what i'm talking about like after right after we cut i'll find the definitive we're almost done about this what's your what's the love story that you've connected with the most oh oh oh my goodness i know this one uh that's the before trilogy

long to remember oh yeah walk to remember maybe hey i like that movie is a good movie i very much enjoyed sharing that with you uh no the before trilogy i think that was too that was a movie that was before uh sunset and sunrise were given to me were shared with me from uh uh uh uh friend who I think it was during a time in life where I was also just doing some coming of age again and probably had had some heartbreaks and some relationships and yeah like that movie is so lovely and like as a piece of art you know it inspired me that way because it's one of those things we're like oh yeah like you know two people talking and just walking around can be so much life and and so beautiful and make you feel so many things but but yeah the romance and both the romanticism of that within the movie and also the kind of just um the the naturalism i guess it's the balance of that because like the movies themselves don't shy away from you know the the bittersweet circumstances of life in a relationship of any kind you know these two people meet on a train and they're from two different parts of the world you know how is this going to persist and uh and yeah it has all

of that sort of rush and you know when you're really caught in a moment with somebody and it feels like this is what life is for. This is all that matters. Like, you know, like that kind of heart swell and that rush of butterflies and everything. Like the movie has that for sure. And then to watch as those characters shift and change in kind of real time with life was also just super. It's that place where, yeah, it's just a movie and it's just art, but also you know that like life was lived to make the art. And it's like really obvious that's kind of the intermingling of the two. And yeah, like as a love story, general i think it's great and also as like a piece of art created with love for craft i think it's

yeah it's pretty unbeatable awesome that's a beautiful answer what that ladies love those movies yes yes yes i haven't seen them only rich for the lincoln fighter movie i think i've seen it hit man you should hey i don't know what what you know how many successful reactions there are but those movies are great and they will you know make you feel all different things you know hey hey at least first two I feel like it's coming up soon prep videos baby yeah well um and the third one's good too but you know what I mean I believe you Ted how how was it Ted you're you lying to me Ted Ted yes Ted thought of the female character he relates to who who is who Balma from Dragon ball let's go you relate why do you relate to her I will repeat

everything you say really succinctly I was something like her curiosity for me or I mean it's just like very nervous sure having a great time someone who doesn't realize how capable they are yeah but who has that endless courage to push them into interesting situation nice or endless curiosity to push them into that's not even one of the questions on my my little cheek here that's a little gregg winged question hey that's a good one but then someone's gonna come at me and be like i don't look at people in terms of sex and i'm Well, shit. I'm sorry.

Well, I mean... That's fair. I get you, but you know what question I'm asking. Truly speaking, I mean, yes, any performance just should be able to move you if it's good enough, no matter who's performing it. I respect it. But you also know what I'm asking. Yeah, absolutely. Totally.

Okay. All right. Well, thanks, John. I had fun. This was fun. This was a blast. I hope people learn something about you. I heard people learn something about you.

Yeah, I hope this is interesting at all. in any capacity i think so i think for people who've wanted to get to know john this will be our most female demographic viewed podcast you've told excellent can't wait to see the comments yeah i'll come back for part two the good thing about this is is is watching each of these from ted's perspective i don't know you know how this one's going but uh you know each one of these has left me going like man i want to hear more of this conversation with with whoever it might be it's the challenge i'm fine i'm learning as i'm doing this um and you know i'm very much just like yeah i'm willing to fail and so i'm doing this and and i as we're talking i'm at whenever i'm conversing i'm learning

something as we're conversing it's like okay well i had to ask myself like why don't this like celebrity question the about celebrity crush like why do i ask this and then i don't really like lean into it and and i was like but then i had to ask myself at my own time like why do i ask this so then i really from listening to that applied some of that to christian made him a little uncomfortable. I was like, no, okay, let me get better at it. Sure, sure. And, and then as we're talking, I do have that thought of like, oh, shit, my mind's going

and like, this could go to a billion different directions. And then the other part is I actually know so much about you. Sure. That I had to, I have to like, focus it and streamline what I want to talk about. And I'm improvising that as I'm talking with you. So I'm just letting the audience. My little process that I'm going through. No, too.

But I'm trying to like, oh, yeah, I got to get better at hosting these, too. I got to be in conversation, but also guiding and shaping the conversation. Yeah, it's a skill that I know other people have that I'm just like, yeah, I'm learning how to properly do that when I'm like, I want these to be like an hour long, an hour to hour and a half. You have a good sense for time and structure. Yeah, I start to feel it out. You know, I'm always in rush. Yeah. Like, as much as I'm sure that doesn't always help you be calm.

Like, that does probably help as an instinct to keep things tight. I have anxiety. So, you know, my thing is, like, I'm really calm in the discussion. And then there's some point where I'm like, are we behind? Yeah. Ted, how long are we on the broadcast? Ted. Do we need to cut again?

That's what happened. What are we doing? It's like, I'm really quick. It doesn't even, like, creep up on me. It's not like, hmm, I wonder if we've been going on a little over time. It's just, but I, yeah, that's the way I operate. But, yeah, no, I mean, and then also this, I want to ask, like, questions about movies, but then I'm also realizing, like, oh, but sometimes I might not know someone.

as well. So I might need to like ask them a little bit about their personal life first and then find them or maybe it has to be inverted. And see. Yeah. I think it'll be a little bit of both. You'll see what asking about like what threads of someone's personal life will lead you to what a question you had already. Yeah. Versus yeah when is a question a good jumping off point. Yeah. Because I really do believe in in this. I really like it. And it's more it's really fun to me and I had fun doing this with next episode. I'll interview you. Yeah. I'll just give you this question. You're like can i bring up one more experience sure you're just about the scariest movie experiences

for teasers we didn't talk about the fight club thing that you didn't talk about the bike club thing that's true oh i was very obsessed to fight club as a as a child whatever how old what's the other experience you want to bring up it wasn't in a movie theater but one of the scariest movie experiences i remember like bar none was that sleep over you and i had no you brought over the ring oh yeah you insisted we watched this on my VHS little TV upstairs in the dark you were like no we got to turn on the light you know you've from a young age you have known what the premium movie watching experience ought to be

and so you're like we're turning up the sound we're turning out all the lights and i remember that that prologue beat where she opens up the closet door or whatever and that girl's inside with the twisted up green looking face like that freaked me out like quite like it left a huge impression on me and I was like scared every inch ironically the coming out of the TV didn't actually bother me that much but like

the rest of the experience of watching the movie yeah I was just like frot I remember I remember your reaction what did happen you were you'd freak out like you would now you know like people might imagine you just I'll never forget it you just went no I aged like 20 years that day I became an old soul in that moment I was like no

and then I was on a shoot years later we were at we were on a Fangoria blood and guts shoot at at Rick Baker's studio and I came into this one show room he had and there was this like what looked like a kind of open door and I was like oh I wonder what's behind here I I looked in there and it's the girl on the floor he had like because I guess he must have done the effects I think so yeah because he had like the dummy there and it was in like literally just this

dark corner that you would have to get curious and look in to find it and and it made me jump in that moment for at least my heart leapt and yeah so like that's just been a sin of memory throughout my life and yeah and yeah because like we would have some epic you know like let's have a sleep over and watch

a movie I feel like that's how I first saw Goodfellas like probably yeah Scarface maybe scar face yeah good times it means that's something we have stories for years yeah so it's like i got a whenever you need a filler episode you'll have me in it's all good oh my god the real last thing my god has gone so over uh is this is a true john because i did say i would say this is the longest yard thing um this is real conversation yeah i asked i think we had a camera player this what asked this question i was like john have you seen the longest shark and you and you went

which one, the one with Bert Reynolds or Adam Sandler? And I said the one with Adam Sandler. And I said, you said, no. I'm like, oh, so you're saying one with Bert Reynolds? No. Yeah. So I was like, why did you just say no? To begin with? Yeah. And in hindsight, I'm like, oh, that would be the more efficient answer. Why don't you be so technical? My brain goes there are two, which one? Yeah, that is like the first place my brain would go and then.

Just imagine that with like, Yeah. No, no. And it is in some ways it's funny to me. And in other ways, I'm like, this is distressing, though, because it would probably be way more efficient to just be like, neither know. But, uh, but yeah, that is a good example of how my brain operates on some occasions. All right, guys, we'll leave your thoughts down below. What did you think about John? Shouts out to Ted. Ted, Ted in the house. Ted. Pulling up the graph. Shouts out to preserve. Thanks to Praper for inserting nothing but accurate inserts i'm i forgot which camera's mine i've just been looking all over the place

that one and thank you to multi house of course and leaving the comments uh is there a particular person you'd like me to try to get to be on this channel uh for this podcast i've got a few people in mind that i would love to have mr sunday movies if i could get mr sunday movies that's like my dream for the youtube department got to get him in and and my son if i could Mason I'd be like John your co-host in this one way that that would be that would be on par with the double toast and shmoh down like I would transcend into YouTube ball hollow that one I would make sure especially because you introduce me to them I'd be like I gotta get I gotta have a little co-hosts yeah I would just be I would just be running the soundboard and fan girling in the corner I feel like it's possible but I live in Australia Jeremy Johns Jeremy Johns would be cool you know all just all the names Chris Duckman We should end. Thank you guys so much. Let's take all.

Thank you guys. They asked us to move our cars like an hour. They did. To be fair. See you guys. Thank you. Oh, we got more. Oh, we see some thumbnail poses.

We should just look like we're having like, we'll say the real John Humphrey. Yeah, I'd be funny. I just like, who are you? Why? All right. I'm sick of scrubbing the faces on these podcasts. Hey, John, we need space, so we're putting Landon Miller here on your podcast. Hey, I was hoping for an additional guest to take the spot.

That's what I was thinking. I think Landon really opened up today. We learned a ton. What you don't remember about Landon? Landon. Name five very interesting facts that sound very, very personal about him. Landon Miller, his ancestors actually worked in a mill, and that was like their trade, which is why his name passed down was Miller. Fascinating.

Because when they got here on Ellis Island, they were like, we don't know how to spell whatever name was originally your name, but you guys are Millers. So now you're the Millers. Number two, Landon loves to read. read Da Vinci Code Books because of Robert Langdon, which just sounds similar and that's enough to please Landon because Landon is a person of refined but specific taste. I want number three now. That is number three refined but specific taste. All right.

That's number four. Number four is that Landon Miller has two right feet. So he's like way better at dancing than the average person. freak yeah it's freaky freaky freaky gay uh and five um is that landin miller uh he doesn't wear socks ever freak freak those two right feet always for those two right feet he's always got to have them out he's always got to have him an open-toed shoes as i was walking a close-toed shoes for landin miller always always turning right you're the anti-zoolander anyway lander i'm glad that This was at the end of the podcast.

I think it represents this. Happy Halloween.