The Reel Rejects - The UMBRELLA ACADEMY 4x6 Review!!!!

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

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Sierra, let's get moving. Are you ready? I'm ready to see how they're going to wrap this all up in six episodes. Let's go, baby. Let's go, mother F words. At least they got to complete a show. At least they did. Oh, Dr. Rade Wave.

Oh, man. I can't imagine this is what you envisioned when you set out to make a show about your comic. I could be wrong. This could be exactly how the comic ended. I don't know. I haven't read the comic. It doesn't matter. The buildup to that does not.

It's felt so like out of field. Was Ben with them at the end of season three? Yeah, they all parted ways. And then they made a point. And Ben was there. Ben was there. And they made a point to show him in Korea on the subway reading a book after the credits were over. So they meant that to be something.

Yeah, because they all got out of the elevator together. And it doesn't look like they had fun making the show, though. All these people involved. That's awesome. Oh, post-credit scene. Wow. They were insane next episode. Marigold.

Oh, more Marigold. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight flowers. Our umbrellas. Our umbrella got to me. What did you think? wow wow yeah yeah yeah yeah that's the end of the show not end well you know it was hoping in episode five they're going to turn it around in the finale but um i think they kind of doubled down and it it not only was it not satisfying but i think

it kind of got worse it just kind of makes the whole journey feel pointless kind of right yeah that's my initial reaction not my not my reflective response yeah because it's like with the whole time they're trying to save the world we went four seasons of them trying to save the world they're like all right we can't save it i just can give up and not only that they just cease to exist so i guess like them all becoming selfless heroes is good i guess i I guess, I suppose. But to just erase that all from memory. I mean, they're always trying to save the timeline.

So it makes sense. Like, there's a part of me that does sort of respect it. I just feel that in terms of a narrative, the way we got there, just did not build to it in a smooth way. It's just like, okay, the last 20 minutes we're going to introduce this concept. All right. and so yeah i just think that they with a limited amount of episodes they had um i think the first two i think the the show semi peaked i like i like the episode three i still think episode two was my personal favorite and same and uh i really think the first three episodes were good at the first three

were really good and perhaps you need to rewrite the entire season in order to get to these spots smoothly but introducing that whole thing with it just feels like the journey we went on this season felt pointless like this whole journey felt pointless just to land them in this spot like I guess it drives at home that for six years they're fine up until they get the marigold

yeah but then it's like well if they just didn't get the miracle they would have been fine so maybe they'd got the chance to have whole families and whole lives so it seems like yeah marigold was the primary issue for them why does it have to be they die as the miracle why isn't it just

they get rid of the miracle I guess because the emphasis kept going back to the miracle needs to be destroyed not them need to be destroyed but I guess the real thing is they need to be destroyed like by them existing I guess but then they also specifically wrote in the thing

that Marigold can be transferred because Victor is it capable of doing that like he tried to do that to Ben and that's how he's able to see the original timeline. Yeah yeah I get that it's that the apocalypse cleansed doom thing happens of them interacting with each other within this like weak time span or whatever but i'm i guess it is that they have to die not just the marigold because the alternate timeline problem was still occurring but the marigold also wasn't destroyed like they transferred yeah they just absorbed it and it wasn't like they got the marigold and apocalypse started happening it's because they came into contact with jennifer that started happening

um but and she won the and the wife kind of um uh pushed it that way pushed it that way yeah i think yeah that was not um that was not great because it like setups were fine and i even like this storyline of episode five of five and lila getting it on and having the affair but you can't introduce that in your pen ultimate and then and then not really have time to flesh things out like this because it ultimately feels pointless yeah i mean a lot of it didn't add anything a lot of this felt pointless like it needed it needed 10 episodes for sure this if there's any season that needed 10 episodes if we're going to pack all that in you need 10 episodes for this to breathe and for impact to happen and as opposed to just and then this happens and then this happens and then

this happens and then this happens and now this happens i i don't understand how this can truly be narratively a satisfying conclusion in terms of execution. Maybe there's an argument to be made for the choice to end it this way. I don't think the journey to there was done smoothly or well. I think it's clunky as hell. I think it's very clunky. And I wonder if this is one of those cases where they just felt like they wanted to end it or like they're like, okay we this was a popular show so we have to end it but we don't have the budget to give them

a whole 10 episodes or if they wrote 10 episodes and like no we got to cut that down to six I think the popularity really doing the old season three totally first two seasons that were really good I don't know why it went downhill as far as public consensus goes in season three I think it was like I still enjoyed season three a lot but I feel like it was a quality different season two yeah well I made during the pandemic fair yeah and I know some people weren't on board with eliot page's transition i don't know how much that really affected people i only had affected the show at all really he's one character out of many so exactly uh yeah i'm not sure but yeah this was it's just disappointing because i will say like i'm like really sad by how disappointing that was

yeah man because the acting is really good the acting is great all of our cast members are great music's great a couple of questionable cgai moments for for the most part i like the design of the monster i i like the design in theory i like the concept art for the monster i don't think the cgai was the greatest but it's also a tv so you've got to be forgiven of that i mean i think that when cgis it's good we kind of just that's passing when it's bad we tend to remember yeah true like there were some bad shots for sure but they didn't do anything but they didn't do anything with them and their powers really like that kind of went to waste and it was inconsistent the whole thing of them getting their miracle back and them getting

their powers back and what does that really do for their identity their character arcs are all muddied and like very very muddied because you introduced they have to die so like conclusions don't feel earned arcs don't feel really earned no some of it's confusing on what they were going for Klaus was wasted They had no reason to give him his powers, because they didn't do anything with the powers. There was no reason for anyone. Even like this stuff. Let's just get into the CIA episode.

Like episode two seemed like, okay, here we go. Yeah, they're all needed. But then it just was like pointless in the end. Yeah. Granted, this show's never really been about them being superheroes or something. Yeah. But nothing really reached the heights. When you have that opening in season two, when they're all like powered up,

and finding that apocalypse I feel like this show really needed to go out with a bang on having something like that should have had something heroic like that opening a season two were before five changes the timeline

where they're all working together like that was awesome I wish we could have gotten some sort of triumphant ending like that that would have been really cool man it even makes me wonder like I liked the concept of Five and Lila

getting together in theory if we had that to flush out. But the whole reason they went in there in the first place was to go to their original timeline to stop Ben and Jennifer for getting killed. But then we never even go back to that concept. So it's like what was the point of that? I feel like a lot of it was not earned and pointless.

And also the fact that bothered me is we purposely bring back Ben, but he's never really a part of them. He's never really a part of the team. Even though it seemed like at the end of season three, they were kind of leading towards that yeah but yeah he was largely just the problem and i don't feel like even if this did have time to breathe that the problem being jennifer and ben being the new apocalypse feels as one as urgent and two as um dire or dangerous as the other ones yeah

by their chemistry yeah this did you buy their chemistry the relationship just everything just felt so like forced and rushed in the last few episodes man yeah even talkingly like wow even their final scene with them where dago's like i see you now like i don't i didn't buy it i didn't know i didn't buy it either it felt very forced like you just just read the line you just have to say it just so we can have we can rush this resolution and it was what a meaty ass that that's such a something to really chew on that they could have had for a couple of episodes of this confusing like the conflict of that of like yeah you've been gone for seven years and this is the only human being you're and you you're around so

there could be a conflict of that of i kind of get it you know if you've gone for seven years that's my brother though and you did cheat on me but at the same time you thought you might never be able to come back and you might like oh my has so much so much potential for something that it's just like glossed over for like big superhero monster thingy it truly feels like

they didn't know what to do with these characters they just feel like we have to end it or well guess we'll have Allison save Klaus and we'll guess we'll have Klaus stuck in a box and I guess we'll have Diego and Luther fight the CIA well the mission to save the world

wasn't even really something that felt truly at the forefront of the of the I think that that ending would have really hit home if they really drove home they're trying to save the world if they really imagine that like every episode you really feel like they're trying to save the world they're trying to say the oh my god the way to save the world is they have to die yeah then bam you got kind of a at least that at least that will hit but because that's not really like a big focus it's it's something that you get reminded of or like only certain plot lines seem to kind

to give a shit about that. Yeah, and they also do that thing where characters just don't tell each other just because for the sake of the drama. Like, there was no reason that Five and Lila wouldn't tell them about the subway with the timelines. Yeah. Like, even

before they had their whole getting stuck there. I feel like that's crucial information or the fact that there was this whole umbrella organization that was exploring timelines. I feel like that's information you would want to share with the people that have this shared experience with you, especially knowing you've gone through three other apocalypses with them like are we going to stop keeping secrets from one another

because this is going to be able to help us in the long run and i feel like the only people that were actually trying to work towards solving the problem with the plot were five diego and victor all the other ones were just kind of doing side shit i mean Diego sort of he's not that's he was like so caring about like the CIA shit i meant i meant five lila and victor those are the only three that really tried to affect the plot yeah but then even at a certain point it just it gets carried away and not really concerning itself with that no because it becomes about the because it even becomes like we could escape into an alternate timeline and we'll be fine and we never even see the timelines like like if all the timelines were affected like threatened

then that then the stakes would at least still be there in some way yeah um i i think that's their missing that was the main missing ingredient because this show's never really about that It's never really a superhero show, right? But, like, them trying to stop the cougal blitz in the season three, whatever criticism you want to give that season, I'm like, I really feel that the whole time. It's like, damn, we're really trying to stop this thing. Oh, my God, there's no stopping this thing.

Shit, you know, it's right down to the wire, you know. And I think they really nailed that of, like, how are we going to stop this? Is there truly a way if they get to the other side? It's while keeping all the character dynamics and the relationship, relationships and then you're exploring Klausus powers like you're doing everything and you're still keeping every character feel essential for the storyline and that's what they needed to do again and that's kind of what every season of umbrella academy does so I think it would have been really strong and apt for them to be like oh they're reunited again and here's why they have to reunite because of

this thing and turns out the only way to stop this from repeatedly happening is they have to die and I think that's what they were trying to say at the end that's exactly what they're trying to say at the end. But again, it's about feeling. It's about the emotional impact of it. But you're zigzagging. Even in your big finale fight, they're like, oh, we didn't have time to flush it south. We're going to have Diego and five, like punch each other a few times, you know. Fabricated attention. When you're just like, guys, we know you're not going to kill each other. But in a longer season, they maybe could have had a moment where it's like Diego's like he might try to actually kill him or something. Right. You know. And yeah, in that longer season, that would

have been something to really add tension i would have my heart would have broken for for all of them Luther's just a joke he's just a joke he's just happy and like unchanged and unbothered by anything that's happening i thought he'd be broken after losing like even after losing sloan right losing sloane having to be a striffer you'd think like the time you catch up with him you would see that you'd see that all this is just a mask for depression or something like that and i'm pretty sure and you guys correct me from wrong i don't even think they mentioned sloan i don't think they say her name once did they in the first episode what'd they say?

They're at the party and it's yeah, they're 100% say they're at the party and he's talking with Diego at the party and he says like Sloan and I could have had that or something like that. Oh, you're right, you're right. But then they don't explain what happened to her. They don't explain that she's not around. They don't explain any of that. And they just have one like throwaway line of like, oh yeah, Ray left her years ago. You know that was like her driving one that was her main dude.

That was her like her rider die in season two and then just write them off on screen or write him off off screen and i felt like they lacked purpose what that's what everything felt like it lacked purpose yeah that was not good it wasn't dude that was really not good it makes and it's crazy because i love this cast and it makes me think like damn so they've just ended it on season three so it just all have walked away and that's to the end of the show and i feel like you could have actually done it in six episodes in some way i think there's i think there's a version where you could have gotten more of it completed maybe not everything but i think you at least would it be i want to check the ront tomato score yeah please i have no as i know the other three have

like a 90 percent um if they've done the mini movie route kind of how you were talking which is what it seemed like they were doing in the first three episodes i was like oh cool a mini movie yeah um but then no then it's like let's try to do a show right try to be a show in the last three episodes Season 1 is 77, season 2, 91, season 3 is 91, season 4 is 61. Yeah, it's the lowest rated season with an 18% audience score. Oh, I know that's right. Oh, damn.

I just want to make sure it's not just a bunch of... I love the cast. I just want to make sure it's not just a bunch of people who hate trans people. Because sometimes that happens. This is true. This is true. And I'm just skimming it, and I see nothing about that in everything I'm skimming in these one stars. Character development destroys so many questions.

Why didn't Victor just blow up the marigold from the others? Yeah, plot holes still answered Yeah, I read the spark notes of the past three seasons. It called it a day Yeah, no, okay, good. I don't see anything about like I'm so concerned about that because I know that like some of that bombing came in in the last season Oh, yeah, this is this was not good. This is this is really bad This is really bad You know it's bad because I feel like you'd normally try to have like a positive

spin about like the media that you're watching but like this is this is kind of rough dude this is pretty bad yeah the cast was really good i'll i'll try to add something i feel like the cast was really strong this season like even though they didn't have the time to flesh it out i feel like all their performances are really strong i think the the comedy was still there Diego was hilarious this season claus is still claus and he's still really funny uh i think five the guy actor plays five is phenomenal and so was Lila. The actor was Lila and Hargraves

was good too and that was they're great. They're great. Yeah but it doesn't save the show. I think the one who got the most arc was Victor

because Victor got to have a resolve with the one who hates being around also Ellie Paige was great too. like Victor like Allison doesn't hate the family Allison was scared of being around the family because the family

And there's no tension with that She felt judged by the family For what she did It's rightfully so But she's still like Klaus Yeah Victor on the other hand Wants like nothing to do

With anyone Right And Victor by the end Comes to this realization That I want to be here With my family I want to try to save Ben And does have resolve

With Hargraves And Reginald So There's more of an arc given to him, but it seems like so isolated to everyone else. And it seems like it could have been like this mirroring of the first season because obviously the first season starts with all of them being in separate places. And they're all mad at Victor because Victor wrote a book about them, like a tell-all about their family as they were kids. So they're exiled. but and then this time there was self-exiled in Canada

and they're all doing their own things I don't know if they did some sort of mirroring thing maybe they would have felt more like a complete sort of package but I don't think that the show had the insight to take it that direction yeah and they're also like logical gaps sometimes just like in general there was like logic gaps in so many scenes are like wait a minute what how does that happen I don't understand

yeah on the technical side things were good acting good but in terms of in terms of structure. Yeah, that was not, that was, that was really disappointing.

I'm kind of destroyed by that. A little bit, dude, because I remember having such a great time watching season two with you. And then season three is really fun. Season two is amazing. Season three was like up and down

the first time we watched it. I really love season three when I rewatched. I loved it a lot. I loved it way more than when we first watched it. I thought it was great. I thought the first three seasons. were all really strong. Yeah.

All the characters had had purpose. I feel like this ruins the characters. No. I feel like this actually ruins a lot of the goodwill. Because if I rewatch the show, I'm like, what's the point of why am I watching this? I would tell people to watch seasons one through three and don't watch season four. Like there's not even an implication that their memories will live on in the children and stuff. Maybe maybe the fact that they're alive.

Yeah. But there's nothing about. them their sacrifice being honored in some way they're flowers but they've never really been like like you can't really call them heroes when they're the problem yeah they're and they've never really been heroes you know like that's never really been their thing as being heroes when they were kids they were heroes and after that they just kind of like but they didn't really care about being heroes they were forced you by yeah yeah man um yeah that was uh such as i I've never had a finale leave, like, such a, like, sour taste in my mouth before.

Oh, I have. Yeah? Yeah. Like what? You've not seen Dexter? No. I've always wanted to watch Dexter. Oh, dude.

No, Dexter is worse than this. Really? But didn't Dexter have, like, a follow-up show? Wouldn't that make it better? Did it not make it better? We're going to have another follow-up show, so maybe that'll make it better. Dexter ended terribly, terrible ending. And it's like, all right, whatever.

And then years later, they announced Dexter New Blood. And they're going to like, all right, we're going to give it a final send-off. And it was really good until the last episode or somehow they managed to give us an ending worse than the last one. I was like, how did they do this? How did they make this worse? and now they've announced another one. I'm like, what are you guys doing? Stop.

You can't do it. You can't end it. Quit. Just quit it. Yeah. That was a, yeah. I think that's worse. I name than this.

God damn. Well, because I could at least see the context of what they're going for. In theory, it's like, it's interesting if it had more time to be executed. I felt like point. A to point B, like, in concept is good. Just the way we get there is not great. Yeah, man. Oh, God.

No one's watching our fucking reactions. I was like, well, these are way down before. Like, way down. It's really, that's really bad. Because, yeah, no one's, they're not promoting it. And I understand why. It's like Netflix wanted this to die. Yeah, because I didn't see any ads for it before you were like, oh, yeah, this is coming out.

Like, oh, shit, okay. I even saw the trailer. I saw the trailer views, and the trailer views are not that high. Damn. For Netflix, those trailer views are really small. You can sometimes gauge if a show is going to actually be popular or not by trailer views, depending on what company is doing the trailer. And so, yeah, I was like, oh, this is kind of low.

So I did suspect that it would not be as good as numbers as season, like, season three was not as good as season two in terms. terms of numbers no i didn't think it would be this much of a dip but i was like wow this is really bad these are these are not well-performing videos and it's the first thing you see when you go on netflix when you pop up so they're like does it say number one on television i don't know definitely not obviously no i mean Netflix will always do that joe rogan's special says number one they always put it like number one i could believe that joe people can't stop talking about that It's not good. About how it's not a great statement.

We all want to rip apart Joe Rogan because we hate Joe Rogan. And I watch and I was like, it's fun. Jack Reacher never go back. Where's my TV shows? The time of watching. There's just the fucking TV shows. Do you see them? No.

Are you on movies? I mean. We're at the home. Okay. My list, your next watch, comedy is top 10 TV. Oh, it's on number one. Okay. Yeah, but Netflix.

Is that a fabricated number one? It has to be. It's completely fabricates this shit. This is their way of pushing it. So many number one shows get canceled after one season or two. Like they get canceled all the time. Number one shit. Netflix is notorious for that.

I hope all these actors get work. Like, because they're all really great. I think aiding. I think the ones who play, okay, Aiding Gallagher, Lila. I don't, I don't know. I don't know their names, Lila and Diego, but I think the strongest ones are Aiding Gallagher and Lila. Totally.

So, like, focusing on them for a plot line, I was so into because they are my, they are the best actors to me. Everyone else is really good. Like, they're great, but them two are awesome. And the guy plays Reginald, too, is amazing. Yeah. Apparently, he's in Tasum, too. Do you know that?

He's Donald Minkin. He's like the guy, Harry Osborne, who tried to take his company. Oh, yeah. All righty, guys, what did you think about Umbrella Academy? Are you happy with the way it ended? I hope you are. I hope you liked it more than we did.

I could feed off your ju-ju. Say something positive about the finale in the comments. Yeah, please. All right, I'm going to end this now. All right, bye, everyone. Bye, guys.