The Reel Rejects - Thor: Love & Thunder LIVE SPOILER TALK!!! Post Credits Scene | Breakdown | Review | Ending Explained

Episode Date: July 9, 2022

SPOILER REVIEW For Marvel Studios' Thor: Love and Thunder! We discuss Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Christian Bale as Gorr the God Butcher, Natalie Portman returning as Jane Foster aka Mighty Thor, the MCU...'s Pantheon Gods, plus all the juicy details & easter eggs, the ending, post-credits scenes, and more!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How's it going, Reject Nation? And welcome to the replay of our live spoiler discussion for Thor, Love, and Thunder. We do these each time one of these major movies drops pretty much. We take to YouTube, set up a live stream, and we field your questions. We let you guys fuel the discussion of what particular plot points and spoilers you want to hear about. It's a lot of fun, so the next time, you know, keep an eye out for our announcement on the community page, on Twitter, on Instagram, and elsewhere. It's a lot of fun, and like I said, it's usually, you know, an interactive scenario. We're taking questions, jumping in the chat, reading super chats, bantering back and forth.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It's a whole lot of chaos. But this time and oftentimes we are joined by our good friend Coy Chondro. Go ahead and give him a follow over on TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, and his personal YouTube channel. He is a wealth of knowledge and a very fun dude. And, yeah, we had a lot to say. So enjoy the next three hours of our Thorloven Thunder Spring. Spoiler chat. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Are we live? Nope. We live now. Three, two, one. Hey, what's up, people? What's going on? You know the drill? You know the drill.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Let us know all the things. How's it going, guys? Hit that like button if you're here. We are going to talk about Thor, Love, and Thunder. We got Koi here. No? Spoilers. What was the thumb up for?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Coilers. What was the finger up for? I touched you do I touched my face Oh he touched his face No ulterior purposes And no significance And spoiler filled
Starting point is 00:01:38 Thor love and thunder livestream and we only got coy here For like About two hours Two hours Hey is that us? That's us I wanted to hear the delayed playback
Starting point is 00:01:48 So that way I could just make it really difficult for us to focus And if you guys can hear us That would be very Just let us know you can hear us Because we're experimenting here with this new roadcaster and also
Starting point is 00:02:01 I want to thank Elgado for hooking up some lights and we finally got a stream deck let's see what fancy things John can do in the middle ooh what can you do John oh I can make the title disappear I can make the super chats come up
Starting point is 00:02:14 oh my God really turn the lights out oh nice I can do a bunch of other things can you make us monochromatic whenever we talk about gore that'd be nice do you have the time John I can figure that all out
Starting point is 00:02:26 right now and I can make us... Immediately live on hell. Way to give him pressure, Greg. Let me add a function and I can turn us very blue. Oh, that's cool. He's over here being the Rizza of the internet. Mixing, sampling live.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Quick mansions. Let's get a focus since we only got a couple hours here with Mr. Comic Book boy over here. So, I saw... How many times have you seen Thorloven Thunder? Three times. We saw it twice. We've seen it twice.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Fascinating experience. why don't we give our second view and go around and guys in the chat, why don't you tell us what you guys think about the movie. Be honest. I know it's a solid 100% for everybody. Everybody's on the same page.
Starting point is 00:03:08 They're all like perfect balance of comedy from beginning to end. Everyone's saying that. So, John, why don't you go first? I really like the movie both times. The second time just smoothed it out. I mean, yeah, there are aspects of people's complaints that I can certainly understand and agree with.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But for the most part, yeah, for the most part, yeah, it got smoother and more enjoyable. And it's one of the, like I said, I come out of a lot of Marvel movies thinking either like, oh, I like that or, oh, that was really cool. But this was one where I was like, yeah, man, I think I kind of love that. And I still maintain that. So I like what it's about. And I like who's involved and all that stuff. well uh the the second time watch i put out even a tweet um before when the reviews were popping like wow i really disagree with a lot of i haven't i didn't actually listen to anyone's full
Starting point is 00:04:02 review i kind of just went through some capsules heard some like ran the only actual full review i listened to was dan merles just because it popped up and i was like sure i'll listen to this and i was like i just don't i don't feel that way about it and the second time we watched it the um it wasn't as packed of a theater so i was able to really just take it in and i did find myself going this first half of the movie is not quite clicking for me anywhere near as much as it did the first i think the first time around i just found it so much more fun in that first half but on my rewatch i was like oh you know now that i've experienced these jokes it i do start to feel some moments or like this is moving by
Starting point is 00:04:47 really quick these jokes are are like so sketch comedy like sometimes that they're not quite it really hit me especially the lady siff moment yeah that's when my impression started to really change on the movie i'm like ah now i'm really feeling it was because the first time i saw that lady siff scene i thought it was really funny and then the second time i was like yeah i don't know now that i've already laughed at this i don't really like this scene anymore and but the second half of the movie I like I still like quite a bit I really like second half the second half of the movie still holds a pretty strong for me and the duality gets bigger between each viewing for me like the separation of quality of my experience between the first half and the second half grows each feeling yeah yeah because I think what dawned on me what and I found myself wanting to research I said this in the car right back with John what I was saying um in the uh what what dawned on me when when with the moment with the kids and then being aware that Tyco YTD's kids weren't at Christian Bales kids and even Chris Hemsworth kid obviously it hit me like I feel like
Starting point is 00:05:57 Tyco YTD this time around even though it has scenes that are so much darker than Ragnarok when it is focusing more on the love themes I think he wanted to make like a family movie it felt like a family movie oh yeah I just I just realized this is spoilers in this moment it felt more in like in this actual moment it felt more in common with Shazan to me than anything in the MCU, and I love Shazam, but I don't think it quite landed some of the themes that Shazam landed as well.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So, like, at the end, when he gives his powers and shares them with the kids, and I've seen some people call that a plot hole, to me, I rationalize that as like he could share his powers with his guardians, so maybe, like, that's how he hasn't been able to do that before, why he hasn't done that before. Anyway, the fact that I'm already like... Well, he does it with Thunderbolt. With Thunderbolt? When he imbues them
Starting point is 00:06:43 with the power of Thor? Who's Thunderbolt in this sense? I think I'm Thunderbolt Ross. my brain is not. Oh, sorry. Zeus is thunderbolt. Am I misnaming Zeus's Lightning Bolt? Oh, oh, no, you're totally right. But my brain just wasn't.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I was thinking about Ross and I was like, what was he here? Yeah, but like that is a really good point. Like, so there is a tool to spread the thing. And I thought it was really cool to make that moment about family and about kids and like, you know, the director's a father, the leads of father, the, you know, Jane's a father. Jane's a father. Natalie Portman's a mother. Like everyone here as kids.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So it kind of makes sense that we're at that age where they start making these for families, but I don't know if people were prepared for that. Like, I don't know if that's what the audience wanted. So I don't know if that's why the Rotten Tomato score is so low. I don't know if that's what the expectations didn't meet. I don't know if it really comes down to that. I think on the second viewing, normally, by the way, guys, can you clarify for us? Do our mics because we have two inputs here. We have the volume for our headphones, and then we have the microphones. And so to us, we sound loud, but I don't know if our volume actually sounds okay on your guys' end.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So can you guys clarify for us if the volume actually sounds all right? We have no snare in our headphones. We don't know. There's no snare. I need to snare in my headphones. Mr. Luke is so tired of Coy. As long as we're not in the red.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'm good. Like I feel like when I walked out, I was like, yeah, it's like an eight for me. On my second viewing, it actually went down to about a seven for me. A full? Yeah, about a seven to a seven and a half. Somewhere there, I would say.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It's still, but I still feel like there's so much to really love about it. I love Christian Bale's performance, and I think the visuals are still really dynamite. Like, they're super... I didn't know this until yesterday, last night, late of night, that they shot it with the volume technology. Yeah. And I thought, like, oh, that's so cool. And I really like, I don't know, I really like Chris Thamesworth.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You know, the thing with, uh, it is that first half that's just a little bit clunky to me. Because on my first time viewing it, even with all the comedy, I could still really feel the melancholic undertones. like take the the breakup montage of watching jane and thor's relationship really enjoyed that stuff like i really really like that and that's in the part of the first half of the movie and um i felt more of those like underlying melancholic tones a little bit more even throughout and i felt like but i don't know i i there's something about it but we'll dive more into it we got to get more specific and stuff here yeah i just uh i just just talking to john i think it's the highest of my like third tier in Marvel.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Like, I've got my, like, S tier, like the stuff that's perfect. And those are, like, six or seven movies that I think, like, no notes, no changes. Holy crap. Any of my top seven could kind of alternate to my number one spot. And then there's the stuff that I think
Starting point is 00:09:22 is absolutely just powerful and incredible I can rewatch. And that kind of, like, and I know this is controversial and I'm going to get crap. But, like, Iron Man 3 is the end of my perfect, like, A's. Not quite, like, B's, but like A, A-A-minus.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I think this is the top of that third section. Like, this is the top of my middle ground Marvel. Like, it's still bees, they're still enjoyable, but it doesn't quite hit for me. But it's the top of that. I actually put this right above Ragnarok for me. Oh, really? I think I like, Ezra's asking in the chat.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I think I like, I think Ragnarok's a more, I mean, I know you're not big, you're not the biggest Ragnarok fan. I feel like that's a more solid, more, more consistent in what it actually is executing to be. Well, this is a teaser for another Quays Comic Corner, but we're going to be doing a ranking. And this is just for this section, but it's going to be, for me,
Starting point is 00:10:09 Moon Night and Ragnarok, but we'll talk about that in length next week sometime. But we will not overshadow John's love for this movie. Or his thunder for this movie. Or his thunder. He was filled with the thunderbolts.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Honest. Honesty is good. Still a B for me. I definitely consider this better than a lot of other comic movies and I definitely enjoyed my experience with it. But there are things that I have problems with. I just like,
Starting point is 00:10:34 I don't care about those as much as how much fun I had. Like, I was really happy. So I feel like a lot of people in the chat I've been saying too much comedy And I really felt like that was only in the first half of the movie Yeah Like the too much comedy part That only really hit me
Starting point is 00:10:48 Especially on a rewatch where I'm like 99% of these jokes are just not that funny The second time around Like I mean if it's not funny for you the first time around Sorry It's not gonna like You're in a way But the second time watching I was like
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah this is not starting to feel like Punch lines all the time Whereas the first time it really It made me laugh a lot the first time, but the second time I was like, oh, no, these aren't really working for me on it. I mean, it's kind of hard to expect that out of a comedy bit. Yeah, I don't rewatch a lot of comedies. Like, I, in general, don't watch comedies a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Like, yeah, you got to, like, leave it behind, come back. And this might be great in, like, five years, you know, when you come and revisit it. Now that I've seen it three times, I'm probably good. But, like, revisiting it in, you know, another rewatch. And it's certainly the one that I'm most excited. Like, I don't have kids yet, but I want them. It's one that I'm really excited to share with my not yet existing children. And the cast and crew seem really...
Starting point is 00:11:39 You can tell when, like, people bullshit in interviews. And I feel like they're not. They had the best time. And that was the most apparent thing. I think Kevin Faggy was so happy to have them have fun. And I think they were all so happy to be there. But the comedy still works for you strongly. Well, no, I mean, it worked for me or it didn't pale partly
Starting point is 00:11:58 because this was one of the Marvel movies where I felt like they weren't so much writing just punchlines as they were writing at least jokes in character. so I was like even if it's not as funny the second time it's still in character so I don't mind that as just dialogue that's intended for humor so it didn't really I also think I actually didn't expect this movie to be great
Starting point is 00:12:18 I felt like I expected not to like it as much as Ragnarok and I expected I don't know like it's been interesting to watch Tyca you know crest into you know stardom and yeah for whatever reason going in I just didn't have as much faith that it would wow me or do something new
Starting point is 00:12:36 or take me to a place I wasn't expecting and I'm, I, it did. I think I'm coming from the other place and that's maybe why I put Ragn Rock a little lower is because I was expecting something that I didn't get from Ragnarok and I was a little upset that I didn't get the same experience of Ragn Rock
Starting point is 00:12:53 as everyone else because I saw Ragnarok a couple weeks early and then I, then the uproar of fandom was like, this is the best movie ever and I saw it again and I was like, I didn't get that either time. So I think my disappointment of my overall Ragnarok experience, colors even my rewatch
Starting point is 00:13:06 of it. So I think maybe since my expectations were too high for Ragnarok and they were lower for Love and Thunder, I got more out of this movie because I was like, I know what I'm getting this time. Fascinating. It's funny. Comic fans I know, and you included were the ones at the time who were like, I don't care for this Ragnarok
Starting point is 00:13:22 movie. Well, it's just so tricky because I think that the best, and what Ragnarok did give me is it gave me, I think, the best Thor in the MCU in End Game and Infinity War. I think what the Rousseau were able to do balancing Tycas Thor and the Kenneth Branagh and Alan Taylor Thor
Starting point is 00:13:38 in those scenes with Rocket in those moments of melancholy and even Fat Thor those moments of pathos and those moments of comedy at the cost of this man going on a journey to figure out who he is I think are the best Thor
Starting point is 00:13:49 I actually like those Thor moments more than comic Thor but the problem is when you swing back to full comedy it's really hard to have that work for me as comparing it to where this exists in the MCU and we talked right before air
Starting point is 00:14:03 that like it does feel like it's a protective layer for him it's really about him trying to you know like keep people out and keep people distance joke joke joke there's a lot of that across the I wanted to see a little bit more of the underneath the front end sure sure sure
Starting point is 00:14:16 quick aside king dingling I did notice how many times the word shit was used in this movie and it did feel like I was back in some kind of 90s PG-13 scenario where I was like oh I'm not used to hear so much shit in Mars the S word do we have any super chats queued up we have so
Starting point is 00:14:32 many super chats queue up guys let's I think the general consensus is like Yeah, the first half is, you know, like looking at the chat. We have the chat right in front of us and looking at the chat. It seems like the first half is the most mixed part. Yeah, that's the most mixed part for people is the first half for sure. I, well, and someone didn't like, see, it's funny, the last five minutes of this are amongst my favorite five minutes of the MCU. And someone just said the last 10 minutes was cringy.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Not that I generally listen to people that use the word cringe, but I think that the last five minutes was like using the title as like a landing. and also like that moment of fatherhood and him like he was seeking love since thor one he's been wanting love and now he has the love of his daughter and like that thing that's really special uh so i love the last five minutes well i mean the movie sets you up where that's the whole i think tycho more than ever just went like i really feel like he made a family comedy oh it's like a family comedy or a really dark sci-fi movie and that's it doesn't it's like it is like the love and so then in some ways i like the concept of that the construct because you do get a bombastic version
Starting point is 00:15:38 of both. Yeah. You know, love comedy, and then Thunderwork, it's like really dark when you're focused on Gore. But... I did want more gore. I did... Oh, yeah, I think more gore and especially more butchering, would have... That way you were really... Feeling the stakes that Zeus didn't feel?
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yes, exactly. And you know what? What do you guys think about Zeus in the chat? In the chat, tell us, because even on my rewatch, I was like, I like Russell Crow's performance. Oh, I thought it's hilarious. I know it's a real, someone says Zeus is so corny. I know it's a real hit and miss. That's such
Starting point is 00:16:10 a divide with people, but I like Russell Crow's performance. That was one of the things that worked for me. And I think there are two there's like two versions of gods that I've always heard portrayed. It is like the more snoddy flamboy. Like that's kind of the versions that are captured here. Zeus just puts his dick and stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And then there's, they are boisterous and lachers and rowdy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. They're not all they're not all noble. Yeah. It's like, I like the Zach Snyder edge. It's beautiful for Abercrombie models, but then, that's not the myths. But I think for this version, I was like, no, I like this, especially for the argument of like, what is the purpose
Starting point is 00:16:44 and you guys are not the shit, you know? Agreed. So, yeah, I liked, I like the Russell Crowe per chale. I thought it was really, and I think one of the things that made me laugh again, for some reason, it's such an easy, cheap bit, but when he walks down the steps, he's holding up a skirt. I'm like, I don't know why, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:17:00 The casting is a huge part of that, too. Russell Crowe in a two, too, is hilarious to me. Very true. Very true. And I do get a kick up. of his greek accent oh it's so thick and hilarious it's like being back at greek wedding andre st cyr says the scene and the gods reminded me of the dog scene in the lego movie i couldn't stop laughing as it's all i thought of that's a great call i do like also when he's like thuckerball yeah he just loves himself so much i don't want to say none of the jokes
Starting point is 00:17:24 work for me again in the in the rewatch i think everything with um with uh what you may call it uh milner and um so i'm always questionable how i pronounce that nilnir milnir milnir Neil Neer and Stormbreaker. I still like. I think that bit is something. I don't know how you guys feel about those comedy bits, but I felt it... I like the comedy of that a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The people arguing against the orgy jokes. Do not understand how much gods talk about origins. Oh, my God. The gods and orgies... How many orgies there are in mythology? There's an orgy a week, and frankly, the fact that we didn't even see an orgy is only because the rating.
Starting point is 00:17:58 We got quite a bit of super chats, don't we? I've been seeing them piling, and we should definitely... We're ready to go. All right, J.B. Bonifacio, calling it now. Hercules and Cleo will eventually replace Thor and Dr. Strange. Wait, where are you at? Where are you reading this? I am reading it right here. Oh, that's a cool little screen. You can read it here? I don't see it. It's right there. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's right in front. You might want to stare straight ahead. Oh, yeah. Hercules, Cleese will replace Thor, Dr. Strange. I don't know if I want to see that. Do I want to see solo-led movies for them? I'm not sure about that. I personally think that we're going to get Brett Goldstein for a couple movies, and I personally think we're going to get Clea for a movie. Could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I'm not that excited about Clea, to be totally frank. I also just don't know how much Charlizees want to commit to a franchise. I can't see her being like, I'm going to do nine of these. Like, Dr. Strange is in way more movies than you realize. That dude is everywhere. So I can't imagine Clea taking that spot personally. I think Charlie Stern is, when she's in a drama, I am so excited. And, yes, she's amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's Furiosa. I even like her in comedies. Or in Longshot. Actually, I don't know what? I think I literally convinced myself. You just, like, rode your side around you're like stereo. I was like, come to think of it. I like her in pretty much everything she does.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And action films. You know, she is versus. You know, the Charlize Theron's going places. I even randomly, what's that Seth Rogen comedy? That's Longshot. That's what I was called. So good. So funny in that.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So slept on. That movie is so underappreciated. Yeah, and that's like just a straightforward comedy. Greg is excited for Clea to be in the Marvel Universe. I feel like, you know, especially when you only have like 10 seconds of, there's an unfair impression you got to make in that short amount of time. I was not a fan of that post credit scene with Clea. So I think that has a lot to do with it. These two post credit scenes for me were like three times better than the two-dunctrine.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I mean, the Hercules entrance was like, damn. Ted Lassau, right? I do not. He does. I was so... I mean, we were together at the premiere. But, like, that was actually an incredibly gratifying moment to finally have something in the MCU to be sitting there, and especially sitting next to you, and then to have that mutual, like,
Starting point is 00:20:14 oh my God! That felt like the phase one moments, like, me and John going like, it's happening! It's actually happening! I never would have thought, but this is perfect. Also, thank you, J.B. Pauvin-Mier says, God-Gasm, I want it. Yes. Shelby. I've always tried to have a godgazam.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I've seen the movie twice now in Dolby at AMC and loved it but I cried so much Nicole was right heartbreak does feel good in a place like this because here
Starting point is 00:20:44 wait what is that what is that Nicole Kidman at the beginning AMC adds that they deprived does up better in a place did they play did they play Nicole Kimman yesterday
Starting point is 00:20:54 it didn't seem like they did did you not get Nicole they didn't give us Nicole and we were at AMC you get a refund right now in IMAX I've seen her. I completely missed.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I mean, you're on TikTok a lot. I am on TikTok. Paul Koi on TikTok does a lot of comic book related videos, by the way. Links in the description. I'm in the meme culture. I forget what movie it was that we saw, but when the crowd started losing their shit at Nicole Kippman, I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:17 I don't understand what's happening right now. It's so out of the loop. It's become an unstoppable meme to the point where people, I can't remember what I might buy. You should. And I. One of the last times I saw it, the audience was, like, participating along. That's how I know I'm in the right audience, if it's a comedy.
Starting point is 00:21:37 They get the Nicole lines. Kevin Lopez is pretty much echoing some of the things that you said in your video about Hercules. Hercules will be Thor's rival, eventually, bro, just like in the comics and join the Avengers. While Cleo becomes strange as wife and become sorcerers. Check out the video. We just dropped two days ago. The last two days of Cois comic corners. Appreciate the super chats, people.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Pandemic Jones. I will keep mine short and sweet. Thank you, Pandemic. Another divisive MCU movie that I loved, Christian Bale was fantastic. What were your favorite moments? Goat screaming after crashing the planet was great. Well, I'm sure we'll be going through
Starting point is 00:22:12 a lot of our favorite moments as we do this, but I don't want to talk about anything I liked. I think let's talk about the goats while we're here. I thought the goats were hilarious. I laughed every time. And I'm not usually that kind of family. guy humor. I laughed every. At the premiere, there was a few people who were like, I fucking hated those goats. It was very funny. And I was like, I laughed every time
Starting point is 00:22:36 they screwed up. I think they're maybe the most divisive thing in the movie is people either hate or love those. I expected to hate them the second they showed. I was like, I know the screaming goat meme. And, and yeah, it was funny to me each time. And then in the second viewing, I was just like, okay, this is just a part of the movie. I'm not, this part of the soundtrack. When they crash into the shadow planet and they just hear the screen for far away. I'm like, that is so funny. That whole thing, and I love that they chose to make the planet like a, just a
Starting point is 00:23:04 asteroid, just like a tiny asteroid. You can walk around, yeah, it's great. And like the weird gravity. The demon planets, like the demons that come out of the planet, you can see it like enveloping the surface is so red. Manjit Kundu wants to know, you know, why kill the god butcher? Did you have an issue with that? Anybody?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Because, like, he's such a good character, but I felt like his end here was pretty fitting. Yeah, I don't think the bringing I don't think the end works without killing him because that's all about the daughter that's all about the things they set up I think it's necessary
Starting point is 00:23:33 so usually it does bother me when they just do one and done villains but this one work for me the pandemic you followed it up you said you wanted to keep it short you're a liar you're a great liar super chat liars Natalie Portman said there was one of the most visual
Starting point is 00:23:45 I watched the interview of the cast and crew or just cast in Tyco but they said this soon I was like what scene was that Natalie Portman said there was one of the most visually beautiful scene she has seen on film when they filmed it in a Best Buy parking lot.
Starting point is 00:24:00 What scene do you think that might be? I thought there were a lot of beautiful shots. I have no clue what scene that was. Yeah, Christian Bail. Yeah, it's a Glendale. I was like, I'd go to that Best Buy. And I don't know, is it the eternity scene? I couldn't quite think of...
Starting point is 00:24:13 I think it's the eternity scene. How would they shoot the attorney scene with all that water in... I think they literally built a green screen cube. Oh, okay. They just walked into it, and then they just mapped it. What a random area. And they probably could spray. spread out enough to get some kind of
Starting point is 00:24:29 floor with a lip that they could put a thin layer of water onto. Because the pandemic was like they needed the like rent spaces out. True. Maybe they literally were just like, all right, Best Buy is available. Yeah, if you guys didn't know that, apparently there's some scene that they filmed the Glendale Parking lot, Best Spot. Glendale.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Anybody got Natalie's number hit her up? Ask her. And I was like, damn, that's, that's wild. I mean. Yeah, and it's another, and when we say filmed on volume, that's like the Mandalorian technology where you actually have like the sets built. Like, there's a screen around you. Yeah, so a lot of times in Marvel, what they'll do, because I even know it's in the trailer when he, that big ending shot they would use, that's from the beginning in the movie when they're fighting those like Jim Henson, like, the colors wildly different in the trailer. It's all blue and dark.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And so normally what they do is in post-production, they use green screen, right, and then they fill it in later. But here, they had to do most of it in advance. So it's very different for a Marvel movie to do that. immersive. Nash Sanadiki. MCU, phase four, let's redeem all villains. It's also therapy phase.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Every hero's going through therapy and every villain's getting some redemption. Well, I think it's a more naturalistic approach to reality, right? Like, no one thinks they're a villain. No one goes into a scenario like, this is evil, but in this situation, we're getting the time to flesh out
Starting point is 00:25:44 why these characters feel this way. So I think phase four is more about fixing phase one's problem where the villain was just like, what if the hero was the same, but bad? Like every villain had that problem. Now we're getting some nuance. And I think that makes it strong.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I think it started happening with Killmonger and Thanos. Yeah, that's ending phase three. I think they just learned that lesson. And they were like, people like when our villains have more depth. Kingpin and Darendel have an interesting relationship. What do you know when they kind of mirror
Starting point is 00:26:10 some of the protagonists of people like this? Because, yeah, Gore's storyline. So investing. I think Gore's storyline in many ways is reflective of both Jane Foster and Thor's. I agree. And I really love that they were able to land that. And it's one of the most, I think, relevant questions
Starting point is 00:26:27 an MCU movie has brought up, period. True. I agree. And as an agnostic, it was really interesting to see them handle religion failing head-on. So, thank you, Nash. Johnny, why don't you read Cutter? Thank you, Cutter Hale. Been a fan of y'all since I was 11, and now I'm 22, almost 23.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Christ the Lord. Dang, thanks for all the great content. Half this man's life. Movie was fun. to see it again today and tomorrow. Well, I'm glad you had a good time. And hey, thanks. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That's incredible. Thank you for sticking around. Happy able to drink. I like reading some positive comments. Thank you for watching us for so long. There are few places I, there are few channels I've watched that. We've been around that one. I feel like, this channel didn't really start until like 2014.
Starting point is 00:27:15 That was like eight years ago now. That's when I really started actually. So maybe they watched your videos. Do something. Yeah. So I was like, oh, now something's. finally paying off with this. Maybe they're just not good at math.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Maybe Cutter needs math. I think some people might be. I think Cutter just went there and was like, what's the oldest upload here? I'm going to check that. I've been a fan. No, I'm just messing with you.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Jim X Mafia, after my own heart, I think Jane whispered, it's Morbin time into Thor's ear. It is the best catchphrase yet. The Morbin time? Morbius? The Living Vampire? What did you guys think about the film from Sony?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Morbius, the living van. No. What did you guys think about not revealing the catchphrase? A plus. Good. Good call. I think there's nothing that could have lived up. Nope.
Starting point is 00:27:55 That moment. I thought she nailed it on the Eat My Hammer part. I wanted it and it's hammered time. Well, and that's why. I think that it's because that works well and that's the actual moment where she triumphantly delivers a catchphrase. And then, you know, then you can fill in the blank of maybe it's a silly one and he's being loving or maybe it is a good one. Yeah. I wanted to stop at Tammer Time, but like here we are.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Nothing's beat free guy when he goes. Catchphrase. Catchphrase. Catchphrase as a catchphrase is a pretty cool catchphrase. Which, watching Free Guy again, I liked Tyca better the second time. Which he was initially my
Starting point is 00:28:33 least favorite part of that movie, which I was initially bummed by. I really like Free Guy a lot. But I like him more, the more I watch it. Dakota Jones. Hey, buddy. They'll follow One Virus Effects. Hey, guys. Haven't seen Thori yet. Well, stick around.
Starting point is 00:28:49 But just wanted to stop and say hey and one virus effects is my new instagram my main got hacked but seeing thor today we will make sure to give you a follow there buddy thank you dak for joy thor popping in here to just show support michael mac looks like from reading previewing this coy you're going to want to read that one wasn't sure the first viewing but clicked the second time it was great fun big love to you guys as always from scotland loving coy's comic corner two i appreciate you from scotland and from here uh thank you man i've been loving doing that show and it has been a wild top to see all the comments like you guys have been so supportive i was legitimately afraid because
Starting point is 00:29:25 this little like network of reject nation is very passionate and proud and i was so afraid of like just being like here's some nerd shit but you guys have been incredibly receptive we don't like nerd shit here not here a rejectation but i literally i'm in the first video without you guys that's terrifying i like sat down like i'm in the chair no it was all part of the plan long game we played really a plan it really was like coy your first one i'll be here with you and then i won't know what to say so that'll be good John will be here. And the John will be there.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And our point is just to ask you questions. And now I'm just doing that, but off camera. Yep. And then you're there in the corner going, it's been 27 minutes. See, the sad thing is slow down, search this again. You got to explain what this is. You know, you got to talk about this. What's the singularity?
Starting point is 00:30:07 See, the sad thing is, the point is for you just to fly and be your own little birdie. But that Wolverine one was so fun. I was like, oh, I wish I could just be the idiot for all of this. Can I be the what's going on guy? Especially, too, because when I hear you guys filming through. the wall and like, that sounds like the most fun experience. No one laughs this much during filming. There was one Ron Burgundy moment that we'll ever see the light of day of something
Starting point is 00:30:32 Coy said. That was just, oh, yeah. The most we've laughed at this room. It brought me to tears because Coy just read something I put down in and I, but I, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I won't go into it. It was such a Ron Burgundy. We enjoy filming that show, too. It was either a Ron Burgundy or Joe Biden moment. Whatever you want to look at her does. way you want to lean. Tins. End of quote.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Reit line. Tins. I see that? It's like, Jesus. I'm like, this is real. This isn't an S&L skit at all. What is he said?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Readlined, end of quote. You guys got to watch it that Joe Biden moment. That's so funny. It's got on history books. This is a weird timeline. Tins, I think Gore. Thank you for your contribution, by the way. Very much appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I think Gore should have been a stronger foe. I wish they would have shown Gore crashed the meeting with all the gods and butcher a whole bunch of them to make Gore really seem extremely powerful. We definitely needed some more scenes. I think we needed some scenes. The things they cut.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. We keep hearing about it. It's funny. Usually in interviews, everyone's so cagey, but Christian Bill's out there like, yeah, I killed this person and this person and this happened. And then, like, my kids are in it
Starting point is 00:31:44 and they gave it the last five minutes of the movie. He's like, my daughter's in it, named love. I was like, what are you doing? my always says when um yeah because christian bail was doing and he was saying he said several times in interviews now and this is the most i've ever watched press for a movie and like post watching a film and he was saying that the first three days he was on set he they were just tied up and he was just monologuing a lot yeah and a lot of it was tycho y titi's suggestions a lot of it was his own improvisation and a lot of it was just great and everyone was like yeah it was terrifying but apparently like none of that's in the actual movie and talking about the vines i think i that might be the scene i love that scene i love that's not tied up but he's not no no he's saying they're tight they're tied up oh he's monologuing but no apparently there is more violence and and and a lot of but no that i think they just drastically trim that down
Starting point is 00:32:41 i get a lot i felt that a lot i felt that especially in the scene with the kids yeah kind of just ends that scene when he cuts off the snake's head literally when he says, that's why you're here, and then they cut away, I was like, that seems long. There's way more terrifying children in the cage. I do wonder if there's some type of reactionary effect ever since Eternals didn't do that great
Starting point is 00:33:00 for them, where they're like, we need to shorten everything. Yeah, because like, this is literally as short as Thor one. Like, this is a very short movie, and I definitely could have used some more drama to balance the comedy of the first time. I could have used like 20 more minutes. Yeah. I said the same thing about Dr. Strangelo. I wasn't
Starting point is 00:33:16 less so than Dr. Strait? Like, it's not a detriment, but it's one of those things where I'm like, I could watch this for 20 more minutes. I also enjoyed this a lot more than Dr. Strange. There's plenty of things. I know that's kind of the most controversial thing we'll say today is I think all three of us prefer this over Dr. Strange. But there are things about Dr. Strange that I definitely prefer. Oh, yeah. I agree with that. Yeah, there's more moments in Dr. Strange that I think support the MCU and Dr. Strange itself. The dark Gothic visuals and the violence. I really like that. The montages, man.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I love me some of these montages. Ian Schmidt, Jane Foster, actually said, It's Thorbin time. And I'm all about that as well. E.J. George E.J. Menchaca. Gore, the God Butcher, only showed on screen to kill one God. How did you all feel about that instead of showing more?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Also, did you feel the comedy was too much at times? I mean, we covered this right at the beginning. I know some stuff will have to recap. It's the last room. I think Speaking for At least Koi and I That the first half
Starting point is 00:34:21 Was too much It didn't feel that way The first time around The second time around for sure And then Yeah We wanted more What's interesting is
Starting point is 00:34:28 If you throw in 10 minutes Or even 15 to the first half And add the drama That I think they cut It would balance out The too much comedy for me Like it's not that the comedy Bothered me
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's just that I wanted to see More of I consider what Thor is doing A facade of like He's so broken and he's using comedy as a thing to keep people away. Like Deadpool does. Like Deadpool uses comedy to keep people at a distance
Starting point is 00:34:50 to make people think he's annoying. Thor is using comedy to make himself seem dumb so he can seem like more secure in his insecurity. I'd like to see that veil slip a little bit. I'd like to see like a little bit more of who Thor actually is hiding under the comedy. And I feel like that could have been in the first half to make it support the film.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Absolutely. Well, I think, well, I'll say really fast is that I'll sort of quick is that I think your opening scene really sets the stage a lot for what an audience is going to emotionally expect when watching a film. So if you compare it to Ragnarok, where a lot of people are saying, like, I just think Ragnarok's more balanced. And I'm like, I don't really think of any dramatic scenes ever from Ragnar. To be totally honest, I don't really, there's like one scene in Ragnarok where I'm
Starting point is 00:35:34 with Odin towards the end where I'm like, good drama scene. But most of the time, I don't think about those, like the heartfelt stuff or the emotional things because the opening of ragner rock is really funny and exciting whereas the opening of this movie is very dark and dreary like the freaking guys is stranded in the desert it starts off on a shadow and his daughters dies you know and then he stabs a god in the in the throat so it's very dark and violent and it's just a lot of jokes like following that so it just sets the stage entirely different for your viewing experience because i think ragnarok actually has more comedy than this movie it's just the comedy i think really stands out so much more here because when there's heartfelt
Starting point is 00:36:16 stuff mixed in with the movie that just sets you up for purely a comedy it the heartfelt stuff um kind of weaves in a little bit smoother for some reason versus such a dark heavy opening and then a bunch of comedy and i think that's where some of the imbalance can start to be more apparent i think it also is the most i've ever felt an edit i think like in a marvel movie true true and i don't know if that's because of how much they were more open in the press but like i I do think that I would have, like he asked, if I'd like to see some more butchering, I would have. I don't know if that would have helped the first half, but I could have used some butchering. It becomes that thing of, you know, you see it on screen, you see that little montage of them looking over how many people have been butchered.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And then you're like, oh, that's it. True, true. But David Gandy, he got us a camera that we're streaming. Camer mandi. So you're looking right at yourself. No, look at the thing, the whole font. Camer man Gandy I remember I made Corey a note
Starting point is 00:37:11 Stop looking at yourself I was reading the chat You're talking the whole time Looking clearly On your reflection in the TV How you do it? Hi guys Landed overall
Starting point is 00:37:20 A solid movie for me The experience for me Was uneven But averaged out good But not great Definitely an entertaining film I mean As long as a movie's not boring
Starting point is 00:37:32 It generally gets my recommendation That's where I land I feel the spectacle I feel the excitement I got those things That's how, if boring is the worst insults, I think the levels of insult for film are boring is the top. The Irishman. Anoy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Oh, you son of a bitch. Armageddon. I was literally thinking the other day, I was like, you know, I think of like Irishman more than heat. What the fuck? I don't, I'm not, I don't, I don't, when I rewatch heat, I was like, I don't like this as much as I thought I didn't. As you watch the Irishman the first or second time? Silence is a quality movie. I think I love Irishman.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Irishman is so boring. This is the forever argument we're going to have. Overheets. Silence. I think Irishman's his worst film. Scorseszi's worst. I think heat is Michael Mann's best and Scorsese's worst is the Irishman. Collateral is 100%.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Collaterals right there second for me. Collateral is 100%. I like Miami Vice more than the Irishman. Oh, you're such a brick. I like Black Hat more than Irishman. I like Chris Hemsworth. Or's black hat, more than the Irishman. Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Clip it. All right, we got a couple in the stream labs. Don't worry, we're not kind of. I know there's some more super chats there. We'll get to them. Yeah, just had to refresh them because we'd reach the top. Hey, why don't you, can you, guys, in the chat, why don't you give, I see some people I've been giving the ratings.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I see a lot of six out of tens here. In the chat, can you guys just start putting down your out of 10 ranking for the movie? And then we'll, like, take a quick peek over it. All right. Flav Doran. Flav, it was a good addition to the MCU, good adventure, not really great, but not bad. My only disappointment was Gore. I had expectations
Starting point is 00:39:17 for Bale who acted it great, but the writing blew me away. Didn't blew me away. I wouldn't rank him even top three one-time villains, in my opinion. And he goes on to say, the comedy was a little too much at points like Zeus juggling act
Starting point is 00:39:33 was too much. But the goats, which I also expected to be annoying from the trailer were very entertaining. I lost it for one whole minute after they hit the planet and screamed. I would have been like, shut that guy up. He's still laughing.
Starting point is 00:39:48 We've moved on to serious scenes. This is dark now. She just threw Stormbreaker out. I bet that guy's name is Flev. Why did you throw Stormbreaker out the window? See, that joke was funny because it worked. I don't know. Some of the stuff really worked for me. Some of the jokes really work.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Okay. John Cypren. We're building the... I mean, you guys can Is there a... We can't talk. There's nothing. We can't read anything. We can't read.
Starting point is 00:40:10 We got no information. Here we go. All right. Then I'll just not... I'll just not do that. All right, cool. You know, you have to do is hit the one button. No, because I needed to make a couple more options.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Oh, that's true. I need to add options. We got... Now we got people... Eight out of ten. Let's read. Let's read through it. Sif's arm out of ten.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yes, and Royus. I agree. Stop. Can I move this over here. It was very old-school YouTube. I saw that. I agree. It was very OG YouTube.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Well, we're going to show everyone's on. We're still, we've got a monitor like way at the bottom here. Okay, so let's just kind of go off brain here. There's every rating. 7, 8.5 out of 10, 5 out of 10, 4 out of 10. That compensates for the 10. 5 at 10, 9.10, 6 out of 10. Zeus, 7 out of 5. 8.
Starting point is 00:41:00 8. Wow, this is like all over the place. Could not be more all over the place. That's good, though. This is good, not it. A lot of people are like 5, 9, 4, 7, wow, that's like all over the place, guys. That's crazy. Kurti, yes, that is singularity, I think.
Starting point is 00:41:16 That is who I think she's going to be in The Young Avengers. Check out Coy's Comic Corner to hear more about that theory. John, how do I do this? Oh, damn, that's cool. Tech. Yeah. Oh, sweet. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Oh, wow. Yes. Oh, I love it, John. It's very fun and satisfied. Thank you, Elgado. Thank you, El Gato. I said, Elgado, hook us up. We stream.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Keep giving shit to people who don't stream, Elgado. We stream. We stream. Actually, I think the last time we were here with Koi, he had not had Koi's Common Corner. No, this is the first live stream with Koi's Comic Corner. Yeah, because it's a brilliant. Notice how much more brief I'm being, because I can explain it on Koi's comic corner. And now you don't want to talk in these streams.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, I got to save it from my own channel corner. Where did we leave off here? At David Gandy. Here, I got it. Wait, oh, there's ways to, like, refresh it? Which? I personally didn't like this movie because they made Thornton. Okay, why don't you guys talk while I'm doing this?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Where's the McDonald's? I don't know what that means. Do you guys think that they don't know what to do with Thor anymore? Because I've been hearing that a lot, where they feel like people are feeling like they don't really. They're not entirely sure what MCU might be losing track of what to do with the character. The complaint I keep hearing is that he has been characterized
Starting point is 00:42:38 inconsistently and they keep making him a buffoon and I can see that I mean I felt like here to me as a non expert it's felt like they have taken a sort of modular approach to what Thor's personality
Starting point is 00:42:55 is movie by movie and I guess luckily in my eyes the movies have suited the approach they've taken so it's okay with me but I would be curious to hear Koi's thoughts, really. I think the character in the comics is so tricky to nail down even in the comic books because you're adapting a Norse god into comics.
Starting point is 00:43:14 So you've got mythology, you've got comic lore, you've got different sensibilities, whether it's the ultimate line where he might or might not be crazy, and then they have to establish that. You've got the Donald Blake stuff. You've also got 70 years of comic lore. So I do think that you can consider this an adaptation of some of the comics, but there's just so many years of comics, like, Walter Simonson's Thor is very serious.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Donnie Cates' Thor is Thor's very serious. So I personally saw the humor in the Kenneth Branagh as more akin to how I see Thor, more of the fish out of water, more of the guy trying to figure out what it is to be mortal in a world of immortals and then reversing that. So that to me is more my sensibility, but I don't think they've lost the thread.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I just think they see it as differently than I do, and that's not on them. So I just think they found out Chris Hemsworth's a comedy genius. And they were like, let's use this comedic genius we hired. And then let's get Tyca. I don't think he was signed on for a Thor for. I think he was willing to come back because they let him play. So I think more Thor is better than no Thor.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Fair enough, man. Fair enough. You know what I really want guys is a Valkyrie movie. Oh, God, I love her so much. Watching her again here. I was watching. I've never seen an interview with Tessa Thompson. She's the best.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And then I mean, I'm American, so I'm not the one to be like, oh, my God. It's amazing. but I could have sworn because I've been watching Westworld season two and I forgot that she's in that show and I know she's in like Creed and stuff so I was watching interviews with her
Starting point is 00:44:42 and I was like oh shit she's American yeah I thought she was British because she's so talented yeah she's rad dude yeah I had no I thought she was playing Americans in and stuff like Creed and West World oh she's legit
Starting point is 00:44:57 but I love her even though they don't give her character too much to like what she does with what they give her yeah i mean i i i love her presence i think her presence weirdly spoke more to me here because of the fact that the writing didn't give her as much but whenever she was on screen i loved whenever she's my favorite character in the movie i i really was this was the movie that made me go don't do a disney plus show give her a movie give her a movie because i think she could hold one king valky all day i think she can hold one aden n y are thank you um i wish gore had more screen time. How can you make a movie with Gore
Starting point is 00:45:32 the God Butcher and he only has one on-screen kill? Oh my God, is that true? Just one? Yeah. And it's the opening. Just one? I didn't even realize that. It's only one. You only see him actually Merk the one One opening God. In the clearing, yeah. Yeah, but when Star Lord,
Starting point is 00:45:48 you see the aftermath. No one's talked about the guard. If you want to know what I thought was the most disappointing was the use of the guardians. I felt like Tyco was like, this is perfunctory. They left me with them, so I got to have them. But they hold no, they almost hold no they literally like are looking up an admiration at Thor but like that's not how we left
Starting point is 00:46:04 them and we didn't get any moments of comedy that to get to that point yeah I thought he was gonna be sarcastic they were so I thought they were pretty wasted and then the guardians like I was like when the first time I watched I was like yeah they're fine because I was more but then the second time I was like man they're really wasted in this movie yeah because they're hilarious
Starting point is 00:46:20 yeah but they make no impression I mean that goats was funny with an introduction with them in the ship but that was also more like you know spatial humor yeah Darth the poo Johnny Cancer is tough to watch And the final post credit made the movie for me I've lost too many to cancer
Starting point is 00:46:37 And the last scene made me quite emotional But happy that finally a character with cancer won In a movie That's an interesting That's a very interesting and thoughtful point That is very Yeah I mean it is like a fantasy fulfillment But it's funny
Starting point is 00:46:51 I don't want to get into too many spoilers But And it's not the same kind of thing I've heard debates about a certain very prominent death on a very huge television show not the same exact kind of thing but sort of a mishandling
Starting point is 00:47:11 as the opinion I was reading put it of many people's experience and so here many people experience the horrific effects of cancer and so yeah I have to imagine it is rare because so many movies probably are trying to come at you with the you know the fragility of life and all the things that are absolutely valid and legitimate but yeah to
Starting point is 00:47:31 have that catharsis of like oh she makes it to the next realm you know and and can sort of have a benevolent and happy end you're like yeah i think that's that's pretty beautiful especially if if it's been that close to your life yeah thank you for sharing darth darts the pooh i mean i've lost like extended relatives to cancer so but i've i know people who have experienced a closer hand. So it's interesting hearing that because I've heard
Starting point is 00:47:58 the opposite with this movie that some people thought like some of the handling but it's a tad bit almost board line offensive but I didn't really
Starting point is 00:48:06 no one really elaborated on it whenever I've heard that I've only heard that I'm not sure how but I obviously I don't have the direct experience either
Starting point is 00:48:14 so I think because maybe the movie it's in because the movie is so jolly I don't know I feel like they made a joke out of that was one of the things they didn't make a joke out of
Starting point is 00:48:25 it didn't make cancer funny now even in the first half whenever you were checking in with Jane it was still heavy because I mean for as much as folks have valid complaints about the comedy the second time to me especially it started to reveal itself like when you really cut
Starting point is 00:48:39 to Jane after that scene with Darcy where she's like ah no it's fine I was like there's so much in this movie that feels like it's about the fronts people put up to appear fine when they're deteriorating or being deteriorated from the inside true true Which I thought also tied into Gore beautifully.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I thought they handled that really well. Yeah, it was a nice parallel. Quentin Anthony Anderson, making it so short, I think, heard it the most. Could you use 20 more minutes? I agree. Your super chat is also one of the shortest comments. But we appreciate the brevity, and we agree with it. I mean, well, I would say, too, that with it being short, I think some things kind of get a little bit lost upon people.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I think one thing that's been up for debate is the whole thing about, Thor with the lightning. You're still in it to the kids? Yeah. Because he uses the Thunderbolt, right, to disperse it. He's not giving his own lightning away. He says the power of Thor. That's what I'm confusing me.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah. He uses the lightning bolt and then says the power of Thor. To me, I took it as sort of like a he's got his lightning power, but it's also being turbocharged by this additional God weapon or something, but that's just me filling in the blanks, really. Well, here we go. Aiden, and also, yeah, shout out to Axel. He was cool. He was cool. I liked his first interaction. Axel Heimdelson. When he does project himself into the actual cage.
Starting point is 00:50:06 What does Thor say? Cage of children. Yes. Kids in a cage. Kids in a cage. Well, there are a bunch of those, like, randomly relevant things. Yeah, that are funny and dark. And at the end, I was actually one of the parts that almost lost me the first time was like, oh, kid army. But also then I thought, well, we live in. a time where kids are put into these perilous
Starting point is 00:50:28 positions and he does empower them to defend themselves. Yeah, there was a thought of like he's lost so many people in battle, but he put these kids in danger, but also like, is there also the need for these Asgardian kids to be prepared? Yeah, like to Asgardians needing to be prepared, maybe that is a thing. True, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Thorloven comedies is Allison Mello in the chat. Darcy was saying that Sarah Will and Darcy's definitely underused. I mean, she got her a lot in Wanda Vision and she Like, where else would she have popped in? Too much, Darston? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I mean, more Eric Selvig. We'll see more of her. Yeah. Aiden Higgins. Hey, guys, one of my issues with this film is that this seems to be the number one complaint. I loved Bayel as Gore, but I felt that I needed one to two more scenes with him. Also, they didn't make him feel as much of a threat as he should have, in my opinion. I felt he was threatening and menacing.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It really just comes down to. We needed a scene where he killed some gods instead of just coming to a screen of, like, with the guardians being like a bunch of gods are dying and that's all I felt like they cut away from the butchering of the gods and even literally two scenes would have changed the whole
Starting point is 00:51:34 1,000% I completely agree let's see here Nev R. Williams, thank you thank you very much. Where could you see Hercules appearing next or just waiting for Thor 5? I think they may still use enchantress at some point, love you all. That's a coy question. I think
Starting point is 00:51:50 that Thor will be going through more of the fatherhood journey. And so we're going to have Hercules is kind of what Thor once Hercules was, where it's the, I'm a noble god in this world of peasants and why don't you worship me? And I think it's going to be really cool to see the arc of Thor reflected in Hercules. You're going to see Hercules as what Thor used to be meeting what Thor is today, especially with that whole paternal nature, with his more caring self. So now that we've had the love and the thunder, we're going to see what that combines into when
Starting point is 00:52:15 he's opposite someone that is like his old self. I do think Enchantress would totally work for that. But I think as an antagonist, Hercules is going to be really interesting. because his ego is going to be his weakness. And I do think he's eventually going to become a bit of an anti-hero or just full-on Avenger through time, getting humbled by Thor and seeing what he could grow into. That's a good answer.
Starting point is 00:52:35 That's a lot of answer. You cut me up, Greg. It's a lot of answer, man. That's great. J.D.L. 1823 really quick. Thank you, because I was sitting there going, did they use November rain? So, yeah, I'm glad to know that that was where that was.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I don't know that song as well as the others, but I felt like they bought the combo pack of Guns and Roses songs and I was like there's gotta be in November rain somewhere he really loves
Starting point is 00:52:57 guns and roses that Tyca he did a whole movie literally posters in the background it's that lead is named
Starting point is 00:53:04 it sometimes you hear a song in a trailer and you might just hear one time in the move
Starting point is 00:53:09 but I was like oh no his whole album yeah they're just guns and rosed him up ony
Starting point is 00:53:14 only I love the relationship between Thor and his hammer I do too I thought it
Starting point is 00:53:21 was a very lovely I mean, you know, the hammer, the axe, they have otherworldly properties anyway. Give them a personality. I thought that was a fun twist. And in the comics right now, Odin is actually trapped in Mielnir. So Odin dies and the Odin spirit gets trapped in the actual hammer. So Thor hears the hammer as his father, kind of like criticizing him at all times.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So he needs to wield this hammer, but it has the weight of the father guilt. So it's a really fun, you know, that's a lot. It's heavy. That's how they should bring back Anthony, huh? He's just Anthony's the voice of Neilner. He's just like giving Thor's shit all the time. Come here, Dad. But yeah, so I thought that was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:59 kind of a fun way to parallel those two things, having the Love Triangle be not just with Jane, but with Hammers. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's stuff like that in the first half that was a little bit weird to me on the second. Even the first time I saw that clip when he goes, like, come here, boy, and I thought it was funny the first time I saw it.
Starting point is 00:54:18 But then it hit me when I was watching. Like, he never once treated Milner like this in the other mood. movies yeah like a puppy like a pet we're definitely ramping up like you know if there's a taste of comedy like him hanging me all near in dark world on the coat rack now it's full on like but the store honestly the stormbreaker shit and it's when it just comes in like i love what it just like peeks around the corner well worth physical comedy and prop comedy all the same yeah it's quality physical prop comedy yeah that was really really funny i i think that's hilarious
Starting point is 00:54:48 stuff. Nash's back. And I think Chris Hemsworth's comedic ability to play off of that is also real. That's a big part of what makes it work when he's just like... I think that's what's informed of these movies. It isn't like that they don't have to do with him. And then Chris
Starting point is 00:55:06 Hemsworth's like, I'll come back if you let me play. He's just having the time of his life. I think it'd be fucking boring to be serious Thor, honestly. Yeah. Unless maybe the writing just needs to get better for the serious door, you know? Who's Roy Clint? I think it does create something of a conundrum because, you know, like a swords and sandals epic
Starting point is 00:55:24 is different than what you want out of a superhero romp or a superhero actioner or something like that. So it is tricky. I do hope someone said, if not a Taika cut, we at least need a butcher cut. If there's more of the violent gore scenes
Starting point is 00:55:36 to appease us all. Meg Paul, I would love to see even deleted scenes out of context just to know what we were gonna. Rare is the occasion. I go, I hope there are deleted scenes aplenty. Nash Sanadiki says, Zeus must always be portrayed by a British guy.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Well, there's a classical vibe to it. Isn't Crow Australian? Yep. Yeah. But they're saying, like, we can't have this fun god. We can't have this Australian Greek man. Close enough, man. I don't enjoy the fun of this comedy.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Motor rolling. After the 87th ghost scream, I was kind of over the humor. Overall, though, I did enjoy it. I just wish there was more from bail. We get it, guys. You guys. He hate that there was not much Christian Bale. He is so, you could, I just watch him all day.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I completely get it. And the look is great. Yeah, it's Christian Bail more. Like I, I so, like this, it's weird. It's like his portrayal is like the best case scenario. I was like, you know, it doesn't seem like Christian Bale really cares about something like the MCU, but like, man, is it good to have him here? Well, and like, apparently his kids talked him into it.
Starting point is 00:56:43 It was fun to see him having fun in a comic book movie because he, you know, the darkness he instilled in Bruce Wayne and Batman like the heaviness of that and the hearing just seemed like he was playing it didn't seem like in court interviews that he was like staying in character on set either yeah I think he was just playing he was a fun he said like he would be uh like playing soccer with his kids and shit like as gore yeah so I was like I was that would be one of my questions was like did you stay in character like because he's known to do that so I would be curious to know
Starting point is 00:57:11 if like do you stay in character around these like green screen sets every time I've met Christian bail he's got a jolly enter Like, Christian Bail is the most opposite from the roles he plays of any actor I've met, because he is downright jubilant. He's a Welsh dude that, like, runs around giddy at every time I see him. Every time we've met Christian Bale, we've thought the same thing. Every, every talk we have. Every interaction, every FaceTime call, we have a Christian Bale. No, but it's a name drop worth noting for the characterization.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Like, he uses his, like, he channels this severity and this intensity, but regularly he's jolly. Like, I would compare him to Santa Claus before Patrick Bateman. Like, he's a downright, like, holly, jolly fella. Holly, jolly fella. So I'm glad to see him get to play that here. Ezra Mott says Christian Pail. Good pun. I still wanted him to be a Baderet Bill.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That would have been cool. Like a jolly Baderet Bill. Like a Welsh. Remember that one shot in the trailer where everyone was like, there's a third character here it's missing. It's been CGIed out. Oh, yeah, I do remember that. And there was nothing.
Starting point is 00:58:09 It was just an empty space in that shot. Now they know. and now they're playing into that. Also, hello to Brussels, Ellie Chaya. Team Magic Infinity. Thank you for the Super Chat. Didn't like the ending. Yeah, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Which one? Which ending? The actual ending, I'm imagining. I like the ending. Could have been done better. Didn't like Gore going from evil to be redeemed so quick. Didn't feel earned to me. It was kind of odd that it was like,
Starting point is 00:58:38 you mean you could have, you could have gone. no one ever told you that you save your daughter you get the one wish the sole thing is by your daughter but he was corrupted maybe like the darkness well he was corrupted by the
Starting point is 00:58:53 so maybe and the necros sword is destroyed by that point so he has the clarity to save his daughter so he's got the clarity and also I mean it's funny I initially the first time was like this is going to be lame
Starting point is 00:59:04 with the whole like oh he's going to come around to love and it didn't feel that way ultimately but the second time it worked even better because he's the one in the cave of vines, he's the one who says choose love, call the X. He brings that up as a weird
Starting point is 00:59:18 view of like, what I'm doing is loving in a way. I'm creating peace for people, you know, like he truly as a good villain should, believes in his mission and believes that there is some aspect of love in here. And then finally at the end, when Thor turns and walks away, I did
Starting point is 00:59:34 kind of believe the change because I believed in the catharsis of like, oh, this God isn't the same, as every other god and he's just gonna let leave me to do as I wish while he goes and and creates this mirror image to the very start of the movie cradling you know the same loss in his arms like I believed the piercing of the veil in them I did really like that moment yeah I didn't love the talking talking oh I'm dying that line really just came out of nowhere for me he we assumed he was dying like we'd been discussed it was dying so for in mid monologue for him to do like an I'm dying Shakespeare moment
Starting point is 01:00:09 did fill a little off, but otherwise the rest worked for me. Fair, fair. Jan Mitchell, Gore wasn't the villain, the necro sword was. Gore was the weapon. That's an interesting way to put that. I like that. I do like that take.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I don't I like the take. I don't feel it's a symbiosis. I think, yeah. It's a mutual bonding. I think it just further enhances that true desire that he has.
Starting point is 01:00:39 yeah and and you know enhances the darkest parts you know sarah williamson i forgot that chris hemisworth was fucking phenomenal in bad times the el royale that is terrifying he was doing such good prep he was so scary in that movie he was dark brad pitton all day he scared i remember being in the theaters being like this guy's terrifying i wish i saw that in the theater oh it's great in theaters mr downtown hey r r and coy help me out here hey i'm a reject now hey r r r including Coy is what I should say. Send another super chat and just fix it. Help me out here.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Didn't Thor get Milnear back in endgame with Cap using it? Shouldn't there be two Milnears? Chris Evans took the other one back to its timeline. At the end, he brought the stones and then the hammer back. So it's back in time. Yeah, boom. Yeah. Hammer time. Boom.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Someone in the chat brought up earlier how there seemed to be no discrepancy. Yeah, between Storm Breaker or Milnear and an end game in the battle that's what I mean but something's
Starting point is 01:01:42 I don't know I don't go there what I was watching the movie being like but in the end game they cross past mill here and were like upset then
Starting point is 01:01:49 but that was a different no more different argument yeah that was an extraordinary fight not a regular fight yes
Starting point is 01:01:57 Bobby Ketssaquadal with with Thor for name dropping me W Thor is like win for Thor he did that's the slang
Starting point is 01:02:06 for the kids And he said it funny. What are you talking about? I'm confused here. He's talking about all the gods? Yeah, he says Ketsukwato at some point. Oh, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:16 When he's listing like Zeus, Quetzikato, all the, all the, uh, he said Hercules then. That's why I was hopeful. I remember when those Celestials were showed in the trailers. I was like, I bet it's just going to be. They're just there. And then they were. And then they were just there. There's a lot of like, oh my God, what door does this open?
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, no, they're probably just going to be there. Don't worry. Those two Celestials will be in Guardians 3, according to Coy's theories, which you can now view on the newest Koi's comic corner that went up just before this. I do think the Celestials are going to be important, but aren't yet. And you'll see why, because of what John just discussed. Those are important. It all come together.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Nah, they froze that one, and the Earth is fine. They should have, like, an afterlife battle. The Earth has not experienced any disruption. A religious battle. It seems like it's kind of building to it. I think there is like, I mean, with the gin and stuff, disgusted as Marvel. It's a, it's going to be
Starting point is 01:03:13 religious wars. Oh my God. That'll go well, uh, Thor, politics and religion. Jaden Bonny. Jaden Bonney, where do you think Thor will go next? Will we get a Thor 5 from Tyca, Thor and Guardians volume 3, somewhere else. Koi, the comic
Starting point is 01:03:28 expert. Please tell us. I'm going to answer this one. You got this. You got the comic expert, right? Take it away, Jay. I don't think he's in Guardians 3. I think Guardians 3 is going to be a cosmic culmination of where we are that's going to kind of take out a lot of characters and lead us to the thing that ties phase
Starting point is 01:03:44 four altogether on the cosmic side. I think on the earthbound side, young Avengers and Thunderbolts are going to be the thing that ties phase four altogether. So I think we're going to go back to kind of the phase two where we've got cosmic and earthbound being kind of separate. So Thor, I think, is another thing entirely where Thor 5 I do believe is going to be
Starting point is 01:04:00 post young Avengers and I do think singularity might be a young Avenger and it'll be kind of of a father-daughter team-up thing and I do think that's going to bring in Hercules and kind of the thing I was discussing with the humility of a god and I think it'll deal with all those power sets hold the phone okay hold the phone first off thank you everyone who's here it's easy to forget how fun live streaming every time we don't tell me this every time we're so used to so used to just filming and editing and just not have the people to like actually interact with everyone I'm like oh it's fun the there's two people in the chat
Starting point is 01:04:35 Alejandro and James, who are saying Daryl's in this movie. Twice. When? Daryl's the tour guide in New Asgard. And then... That's... Oh, my God. That's Daryl. That's Daryl. He does have a name tag. This is Daryl. I didn't even think of it at the time. I didn't even... That's the greatest Easter egg of all time.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I didn't think that was an Easter egg because it was like a character. I didn't notice the name tag. Oh, damn. And then Valky, when she's walking through the families losing their kids, she assigns Daryl a task. She goes, Daryl. And she tells him to do a thing. I've been for the long, I pitched this on movie fights forever ago.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And I actually won when they were saying pitch a show for Disney Plus. And I was like, do a Daryl show. And where every episode there's a new member from the MCU and he has to, I thought it would be like he could be working at like Avengers headquarters or something like an employee there. He's working at a start. He's a good guy. I'm like, they're doing the show. He did the thing you wanted.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Yeah, like you just have an episode where it's always, he's always. with some adventure. And that's going to be a really fun show. Daryl's in there. Office comedy show or something like that. They kind of a hangout show. So, oh, damn. He's a tour got to do Asgard for your show.
Starting point is 01:05:45 There you go. I'm like, oh my God, it's coming through. What I've been wanting is happening. Yeah, that makes me so happy. So lovely. I got to, I'll go into it later. I have the weirdest thing I noticed, and I bet no breakdown channels pointing this out. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I have the, actually, I'm going to do a one minute video for YouTube about it. You're not going to say it now. I might. Just for the people here in the shop. I'll do a separate video. I'll do a separate one-minute video for everyone in a minute. But I'll tell you, I don't think anyone noticed this, but both times I watched this movie, I'm like, why did they do this shot? There's a very specific thing of involving Christian Bale that every time I watch this movie, I'm like, what a weird choice.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And I don't think anyone's noticing it. I'm not, I know how to build this up. You just gave us 30 seconds of the minute. A mild-mannered comic nerd. I liked the movie, but it did have too much comedy in it till the middle. I'm glad we're on the same page. I felt like I was watching the Mad Damon and Melissa McCarthy extended show. You see, that bit, I thought went on a little too long for my taste.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Because the rest of the movie felt so much like that bit. Like, it didn't, the bit is funny because of how ridiculous it is, but the movie itself is kind of operating in, like, that's like a 12. but the movie's at an 11, so it's, like, not a big enough leap. Whereas in Ragnarok, I felt like it worked because it was so short that it was like, oh, that's a good one-note joke.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yeah. I actually liked the joke where they, where Matt Damon and Chris's other brother were talking, and they were like, we need to make, oh, to the time like this, to bring the people. Like, that to me was way funnier. Exeter Asgard Knight.
Starting point is 01:07:23 She didn't say no. Like, that was way funnier to me than, and I just don't like Melissa McCarthy very much. I thought, well, like, when Melissa McCarthy first appeared, I thought it was really funny when she first appeared. The Irishman's Melissa McCarthy. Why don't you go fuck yourself?
Starting point is 01:07:37 She's in the Irishman. No, those are the... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That'll improve them both. Downtown. Who was Lena Hetty supposed to be eternity? I don't think she's supposed to be... Eternity, I don't think it was ever going to be a character.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I want to say she would have been like a god in the vein of Wonder Woman. I think they would have made her like one of the gods that gets killed. I don't know the mythology of the Greeks enough to... to guess, to be honest with you, but that was my assumption. She was like, because look at Lena Heady. She looks like a goddess. I would have cast her as like a Wonder Woman stand in. She is hot. So she was supposed to be in and she wasn't?
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yeah, and she got killed. She's getting sued now, isn't she? Yeah, she sued. She's getting sued by her management team in the UK for not paying the dues that she was paid for this movie. We don't have managers. Do you pay? They get 10% of what I make. But do you pay them
Starting point is 01:08:30 directly or I thought they, I thought part of them managing is they My money goes to them, and then I get 90% because they keep 10. So they get 10% on my money. That's why I'm confused. What did these managers do? So she's the UK manager, so maybe she got paid American and was supposed to owe them. Like maybe the payroll in America got paid.
Starting point is 01:08:48 She didn't pay her international one. I don't know, Lena. So that's just what I'm here. Call her up, Coy. Call her on the telephone. After Landon Smith's, I'm going to reveal to you guys. I'm very curious. What's this weird thing is I'm going to tell you all about?
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm very excited. Does it have No, I won't know What, what is it? Does it have something to do With the mole next to his eyes? Yes, did you notice it too? I said, well, yeah, because he rolls over
Starting point is 01:09:11 And it's like you're directly facing that shot, right? No, that's not, but it has something to do with the mole on his dog The tree, the intrigue grows. And I don't want to do the one minute video, I'll provide photos So I can show you that I believe I'm correct about this. Landon Smith. Can't wait to see what Brett Goldstein does with the Hercules character. Part of me just wants it to be Roy Cantas Hercules dropping F bombs.
Starting point is 01:09:41 That's the one thing as I was sitting here going, damn it, he won't be able to curse. Yeah, the entire show is about Roy being able to curse, and now he won't. How would Hercules distinguish himself from Thor from the first movie? Well, that's the thing, is that Thor in the first movie was immediately trying to get back home. and through that he has to prove himself worthy. Hercules doesn't have to prove shit. Like, Hercules is, like, already entitled. He's the son of Zeus.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Like, he's going to have, he's going to be, like, Malfoy and Hercules put together. Like, he's a prick. So he's not going to be seeking redemption. He's just, like, going to be arrogant and... Hercalfoy. Yeah, he's going to be drinking and... Oh, my God. The guy, someone in the...
Starting point is 01:10:20 Okay, someone pointed out in the chat. PG, you got it. There's one shot. What? Or early in the movie when he's just regular gore In the film They flipped the shot
Starting point is 01:10:35 I did not Because his mole is I forget which side it's on Because I don't know why Christian Bill with the millions of dollars he has Has never gone in that fucking mole Remove because it's it's right there on his eye And so anytime he disappears
Starting point is 01:10:48 Into a character and does all the crazy makeup I'm like But that fucking mole is so consistent It's just right there blocking your eyes So So, yeah, no, a couple people pointed out. They noticed it, too. The shot is flipped for some reason.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And it's just, and they eventually cut back to the same shot, but it's normal. So that his mold is moves? His mold is just like on the other side. And I'm like, what the fuck? Why did they flip the shot? So maybe they needed the shot flip for like visual effects. I have no idea why they flipped it. I'm going to be on the lookout for that.
Starting point is 01:11:21 No, it's when he's pleading and he thinks he's been saved. Oh, in the opening. Yeah, he thinks it's, it's. Very early on in the movie. And there's a mole flip. I noticed it because I always look at that fucking mole. So in the first movie, in the first time I watched it, I noticed it. I was like, wait a second.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Like, oh, I thought his mole was on the other side. And then when it comes back, I'm like, it is on the other side. That is so interesting. Because, yeah, whenever I watched the Dark Night on IMAX, I would always look at that fucking mole. It's what, 10 foot mold? Even they showed the trailer for that new David O' Russell movie, which looks great. And I'm looking out of like crazy makeup.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And I'm like, I'm like, I'm fucking mole. So if Tom Holland had. and gotten rid of his for Spider-Man. He'd be like, molly, molly, molly, molly. Chop it up and make some guacamole. It's like Robert De Niro's. It's him and Robert De Niro. Both had these moles that they've just never removed.
Starting point is 01:12:06 That is just gross. The De Niro one, I'm like, I get that that's part of your... Now it's Christians. Too apparent. Also, Will Turby, thank you for the clarification. I hear Lena Hetty was cast but never shot her scene, and the management still wants their cut, even though she wasn't paid for not shooting her scene.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Interesting. Oh, fuck that. shot the scene? If that's true, that's true. Feel a little understanding, you pricks. Yeah, like, I want the money you weren't paid. But I was expecting money. Where is our imaginary money? It's Marvel. Just being in a conversation with them
Starting point is 01:12:38 means money, right? We are not privy to the inside track of these conversations, but that seems sketching. My favorite detail, Pi Logan. Pi Logan? That's what I'm going with. Or Pierre Logan. Take it away, John. 123. My favorite detail is Gore's
Starting point is 01:12:54 daughter is played by, or my. Chris Hemsworth's real life daughter. I loved the ending, and now it may be my favorite in the MCU. It is amongst my favorite endings. In the MCU! The Pantheon of Marvel. It is amongst my favorite endings.
Starting point is 01:13:10 I thought it was really special. I loved the idea that the title is a landing, and they're adorable. Like, I, you know, again, I don't have kids, but the idea of getting to act with your kid and make these movies for your children and then put them in them is so special. I know. This is like nepotism of the film.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Yeah, that's what it is. Oh, they said, too, that, like, the kids designed the berserkers and stuff, which, which across the whole film, like, brilliant, wonderful, I love the use of shadow. Like, the use of shadows is, like, that effect where just all the shadows grow and arms and legs start to spread out, like, beautiful, like, beautiful. Yeah, it was genuine, terrifying. Beautiful, beautiful. Well, I think the ending is so beautiful because the movie sets up in a very, like, explicitory way about how, you know, Thor keeps people at a distance because he's been heartbroken so many times. is longing for love and connection and you know the movie's setting you up
Starting point is 01:14:01 that he's going to find it in the form of romance and he finds love in a different way and I think that's quite beautiful how to do that and it's unexpected honestly it's fucking the villain's daughter yeah I do not expect that to be the landing after like at any point in the movie until they were in eternity and I was like oh shit
Starting point is 01:14:17 I know some people don't like it and some people go woke they're giving all our roles to the child and females female children Are there really the argument that them kids are taking our jobs? Kids with their limited hours. Can only work till 6 p.m. taking our jobs. Fucking a couple, like 10 seconds in total of Valkyry.
Starting point is 01:14:41 What does she kiss a girl in the cheek? She kissed a girl in the hand. And then and then. Was that a problem for motherfuckus? And then there's also. They cut that stuff out for China. What's it called? Cord says something about the girlfriends.
Starting point is 01:14:55 But the husband. Yeah, there's like 10 seconds of gay things and people are like shoving woke shit in my face Well, and their gore says like, you know, to have lost the women you love, you know, to Valky and all that stuff. Sorry, 15 seconds. If you guys can't handle
Starting point is 01:15:09 hearing about love, you shouldn't hear. That's most of the people in the chat by the way. There are monsters. 99% of our audience. Is the anti-woke? They hate anything. Don't watch my content. John Costas says,
Starting point is 01:15:25 Don't watch our stuff. John Costas has put the kids back in the cage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got aliens, we got gods, but no gays. Naked X-D says, tired of being alone, we'll help you. Oh, fuck. Ban this person, please.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Which one? The envelopes. Is they a real person or? There's no way they're real. They've got jiz emojis. Okay, good. All right. AFV.
Starting point is 01:15:53 FV. I think they should have ended. would making stuff about oh from this that said vaginers about vagina that is what the porno
Starting point is 01:16:06 about Avengers vaginas after endgame now I think it's more of quantity than quality but that's only my opinion I don't know I mean I don't know if it's really a quantity issue I think the quantity issue is in the form of we had a pandemic and there's a lot of shit stack
Starting point is 01:16:21 that we couldn't release and so it's all just kind of compounding And I believe there's, there has been quite a, uh, uh, upheaval. There, there's a lot of truth. Um, I believe to the whole thing about the, I should be very careful about what to say about, about with the visual effect shit of, of how a lot of them are feeling like the, it's too much as being stacked up against them. Well, if you look at the years hard and they demand a lot from Marvel and there's often a lot of,
Starting point is 01:16:51 you got a like, oh, we need to do this. And they're like down to the release. steak. Visual effects houses and artists are often pushed to the limits and for not enough money. Yes, that's the big issue. And I'm glad that Natalie Portman recently gave a lot of credit. When you were
Starting point is 01:17:07 talking about that Best Buy thing. Yeah. Yeah, she was like that is, like, it's such a credit, a testament to the visual effects department that they were able to pull that off. I think the two years we missed of having movies and them getting stacked up, like I think it was meant to be two or three a year and now it's four a year.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Plus shows. Plus shows. I think the feeling of quantity is just because of like the stagnation, but you got to remember if you're feeling like it's a lot, imagine working on them. Like, it's insane just in any level, like editor, visual effects, anything. So, um, the fact that we're getting them of this caliber at all is, is, is miraculous. I mean, I think that the lack of quality sometimes feels like it's really coming down to runtime. Sometimes I even, you even feel like, just an edit. Sometimes you feel that with like the Disney plus shows of like, God damn, these finale. Why is it specifically six? Why is there specifically two hours? Like, Jesus. Like, Jesus. Like, you know. just a couple, a little bit more time of your show. It feels like when they let them flow freely with the directing style, then they put other things in a box like runtime. Like the shows are really creative, six episodes. So it's interesting what's working and what isn't. Can you imagine they were like, we got to cut
Starting point is 01:18:09 20 minutes out of no way home? Yeah, imagine if they said that. Or like end games three hours. Take an hour out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. All right, can we go to the next SP chat here? You bet you. Hey, Arnav. You know, honestly that Dway
Starting point is 01:18:25 Wayne the Rock joke. So funny to me. Didn't catch it until you guys were pointing out how you relate to catching it. Oh, yeah. We had like a one beat delay. Like John and I were like, one, two. Ah! And I was, yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I did not catch the joke until you guys were saying that at the premiere. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, the rock. He's a rock. He's a rock with a mess. So funny to me. I love that joke so much. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I wonder how Dwayne feels. about that in real life. Arnav Prabudisai. I'm going to go with that. Based on Thorlove and Thunder, what are your predictions on the next Marvel movie? By the way, big fan. Marvel Move. Marvel Move. Where is Marvel going to move their operation to now?
Starting point is 01:19:12 Yes. That's the plan. To Sony. I think the next, I don't know. Coy, give a like a 30-second prediction on what you think they're going to unveil that we haven't heard of. Like a Comic-Con? Yeah, other than being like, guys, Blades coming, Fantastic Force coming.
Starting point is 01:19:29 We're working on mutants. I think we might get a Young Avengers announcement at Comic Con. You are fucking fighting. Everything we ever do now. Young Avengers. Young Avengers. How did this movie end? How did this movie end?
Starting point is 01:19:42 It's almost like the MCU is setting it up with like, hey, fish up. And then Cassie Ling's going to be in Amman and America Chavez. And the singularity of this one. And the dude from Falcon and Winter Soldier. There you go. I'm not wrong. I think either D23 or Comic-Con, I would say D-23. I think Comic-Con is going to be very video-based.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I think we're going to get our first Black Panther trailer. I think Dr. Doom is coming in Black Panther. I think that's going to set up a very political side of things, which is going to allow the Young Avengers to thrive with all the politics of law. I agree with you. But I think that's going to tie up to the legal side with like She-Hulk and those things. So I think what we're doing is we're building out like systems. We're going to be building out a legal system with She-Hulk and Matt Murdoch coming back in Echo.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I think Matt Murdock also shows up in She-Hulk I think that's going to lead to Kamala's law with the end of Miss Marvel going into Young Avengers I think the government entities are going to be emboldened with thunderbolts when the good guys are revealed to be bad guys whether they call it Dark Avengers or Thunderbolt but I think as far as the
Starting point is 01:20:41 cosmic side I think that's going to come to a really interesting head in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 because we're getting Kang in Fantastic in Ant Man we're getting I think high evolutionary in Gardens the Galaxy 3 and then I think when we do bring in Fantastic 4 there and I have to go a little bit more contained of the villain so they can make the cosmic stuff work with what they've
Starting point is 01:20:58 already built so I think basically we're going to be dealing with is ground level government cosmic entity timey whimy craziness and then the politics of what it looks like to try to control a world that deals with all of that nice good politics marvel I mean people are going to love and God fights I'm very I'm very impressed you're funny like because I'm so um most of them I'm very involved with with the Koi's videos and and then to like you say stuff now I'm like I know what that is now. I understand the context of what this was.
Starting point is 01:21:28 And half the time I don't retain information. So I'm just like, you said Kamala's Law. Yeah, when you were like editing the other one, you're like,
Starting point is 01:21:34 I get this now. And you're like, texted me. You're like, I understand what you were trying to say. I was like, oh good, I'm glad it made sense.
Starting point is 01:21:39 And then, yeah, even like on Kamala, like there's something's quite, before he films, usually I'm like, I need a kind of a recap of what you might talk,
Starting point is 01:21:47 what you might talk about so we can kind of work on structuring this video. And then like, I remember you were trying to explain Kamala's law to me. I'm like...
Starting point is 01:21:53 Sure. Like, yeah, just put it in there at the end. Tie it and tied together. Makes that makes sense. Once I was working on the video that I was like, oh, that is interesting.
Starting point is 01:22:02 That one we dropped today. That was the first video. The one we dropped today was the first time I was like, I don't know if this makes any sense. Like I literally was so worried that you had to have the inside baseball knowledge. No, it's all, it's all tied together.
Starting point is 01:22:12 So yeah, that's where I think it's going to. All of us worked on that. John, you, me and all of us. Did you like it? I loved it. I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:19 I, I, it takes me longer than it takes Greg, but I really love compiling and doing the touch-ups for Koi Corners. Like, they're, it's really fun to find all the images and then it's like, you know, oh, you're, I'm learning along. I'm trying to give like 70 years of comics in like a 20-minute video, but then
Starting point is 01:22:35 you guys are like, let's make it 12. Yeah, man. You got it. It's too long to be too long. SEO, everybody. Runtime. Chris Alira's. Finally, someone asks about Hine, about Axe. So, I know Sarah Williamson in the chat was bringing him up.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Axel Heimdell's son. So Heimdahl's son can see through people's eyes, but can't summon the bifrost like his father did. He's a kid. Give him a break. He's learning. But he could do it with Stormbreaker. He could wield it. He did. He did. So I think he just frost them out of there. Needs a tool. I think they are building to it. How do you guys like live streaming with these? I prefer it. This is great. I can actually hear you if that's the one weird to use. I can feel like I'm actually in the room with you As opposed to like Because it's like as much as it is fun To have like a mic on an arm And feel like you're in a podcast studio
Starting point is 01:23:23 For everything we do This is just the easiest I feel more loose Yeah But the But I like to I really like the inclusion of Axel a lot I mean the Axel joke back and forth
Starting point is 01:23:35 Was like It is Okay But But what is the thing Axel says to Thor When he gets like so fed up with him when he first shows up in the cage. He's like, go away.
Starting point is 01:23:48 He's like, you go away. I love that. You're not helping. I thought that was so funny. Their back and forth is great. I want a Deadpool and Thor movie, and I'm prepared to forgive any syllabus they come up for it. That would make a great comedic duo. I would love Ryan Reynolds and Chris Hemsworth so much. You imagine they do a Deadpool movie and people are like, too many jokes.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Too much humor for me. It's sophomoric. It was immature. But yeah, I really like to Axel Heimdelson. I did not expect to be like so endeared him so quickly, but he was like a good leader rule. Jennifer Abe Bourbon expresses worry after watching Love and Thunder for Tyca's Star Wars film, so I'd put it to the chat. Do you guys feel the same?
Starting point is 01:24:24 I'm not because he did the last episode of The Man of Lauren and I killed. True that? And he did. I mean, he had like a funny bit with the Stormtroopers, but it was like taking the piss out of Stormtroopers who we already, the Star Wars fan-based clowns on Stormtroopers. They suck. And so that was like the only bit that felt like Tyca directed this. episode. Yeah, I think he's a great director. I think, and I generally like him better in his own wheelhouse than, like, playing with IP. Like, I think Jojo Rabbit, Hunt for the Wilder People, and Boy, are all my favorite Tyca. But I am curious what he does with an entirely new mega IP
Starting point is 01:24:59 like Star Wars. Like, I can't even imagine what that is. So I'm curious. Yeah, I mean, I think Thor Love and Thuner is the kind of movie that will grow in appreciation over time. And anytime there's a movie that has negative attention eventually the defense rises Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man 3 It's the way it goes
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah I mean this was one where I was like I felt for the characters more than a lot of these movies Like the interpersonal journeys and stuff like that Like the things it was truly about And truly seem to care about I was like this is really touching and wonderful And he does And he does ultimately still pull from
Starting point is 01:25:38 You know lore and comics I mean, he still does, like, do it. He just kind of makes fun of it a little bit. It just makes it kind of funny. Ian Schmidt also clarifies Heimdow had a sword and a gold sphere that shot the bifrossed. So, instruments, part of the deal.
Starting point is 01:25:55 The sword was how he summoned it. Atarka 7-1. I just wish the movie was a little bit more serious. It was just too much joking around. Also, random question, will you all watch the terminal list? Is that the one with Christopher Pratt? No. He doesn't like the name Christopher.
Starting point is 01:26:10 He's Pratt, Pratt, Pratt. Pratt, Pratt, Pratt. And apparently, apparently weird update. He's not religious, despite posting tons of like, I'm getting my good lord in today. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I don't usually talk about people's personal business. I like Chris Pratt the human. I like Chris Pratt the man. But I don't think this aggressive, weird, like, PR push is fair to, it just feels like lying. Like, I see what he's trying to do
Starting point is 01:26:35 and I'm really happy for him. But, like, he's putting out articles that are like, we see your Instagram. And like, I think, You're just like, if you want to stand for something, stand for it. And, like, I don't like a lot of what those things cause people harm through, but I think, like, Chris is the only dude. I worked on a set with Chris, and he's the only dude that knew every crew.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Last two, yeah. I played his little brother in a movie called Bride Wars, and he's the only dude that knew, um, he knew every crew member's name. No, but, like, he knew every crew member's name. Like, he knew everyone on set, and he was really kind and compassionate. I don't know him now, but I do think that, like, it's really tricky when you do a PR campaign that's just, like, receipts. so it's just it's a mess and uh his name's prep i mean when uh i read one of the interviews and he said that he never that church that uh eliot page said he was a part of he's he's never been a part of that church i hope so and um but granted the church he is a part of
Starting point is 01:27:29 has had its controversies the end of itself yeah i mean it's church uh um and and and you know he does say like i as i have friends who are like part of the church of jesus like part of church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have friends who are Christian. I have friends who are Catholic. I have a whole bunch of friends. I have friends in all kinds of faith, right? And
Starting point is 01:27:53 but there is that degree. And as someone who grew up in Catholic school who did identify as Catholic for a large part of my life, there are those degrees of like, yeah, I do consider my, and you're fucking Irish. You know, like, you know that there's like, there's the real
Starting point is 01:28:09 Catholic people who are like, obedient religious fucks and then there's people who are just like yeah i am like you know i still like drink and fuck and right yeah i'm not there every sunday i'm living my life yeah so um there's uh and and chris pratt strikes me oh to be a little bit more of that version a lot at least in the way he talks in interviews he's like if he was really that super religious guy i can't imagine he'd be doing he doesn't some of the movies he does and some of the jokes he made on parks and rec the jokes he makes on park where they see him bloopers and and and the and the way he talks in interviews and the stories he tells and stuff yeah i just you know it's a tricky
Starting point is 01:28:45 thing to do to defend or to admonish anyone i think he's more religious than he lets on but i don't think he's as religious as people as people assume i think he's somewhere in the middle where it's like yeah this this but it's just the p r around it is very serious yeah it is a weird p i don't know i don't it doesn't really matter to me as long as he's not harming people yeah as long as he's not hurting anyone uh and i'm only in one scene in broad words there i was in three but the movie became uh a different thing in the editing room but i'm in one scene it's actually really funny because Anne Hathway and Chris Pratt are getting married and I'm in a bunch of scenes setting up that scene
Starting point is 01:29:13 but by the time the final cut comes out it's like they're zooming in on Chris Pratt and then they zoom in right in my face and it cuts away but they're like who's that guy? And it's like my favorite thing about real because it's like and Coys here and it just leaves.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I literally tried to pull up a picture of you in that movie. Yeah there's a bride war is Chris Pratt's in there? Yeah he's the one Anne Hathway marries but I'm literally only in the marriage scene now like I'm only in the wedding scene but yeah just briefly
Starting point is 01:29:38 just a real quick thing. Dude, we need Tyca take a take on Quiet Place 3 so we can have yokes. Yopes. Let's do it. It was not religious during Parks and Reg. Yes. When did he become? I don't keep track of all that personal life stuff personally.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I just hope he's happy and I hope he's not hurting people. We should go over Chris Pratt's IMDB and then chart his religiosity over that time. Tony Stark go to Valhalla. We need an afterlife show. We need to just know what's going on. Just to know we're all of our dead Marvel characters. I know. Also, Mike Kalanowski's on Terminalist. Is there, ooh, hey, good for him.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Friend of the Shodda. You get real answers from him. Is there a way station where like every dead soul goes to and they're like, what are you, you're Norse? Okay, you're going to Valhalla. Someone's like sorting the luggage. You're Greek, yeah. You're going here. Egyptian-ish. Okay, field of reeds.
Starting point is 01:30:29 That snap caused a lot of problems. True. Whoa. We have a lot to sort today. And these afterlives feel like physical planes. So I'm like, Like, did half the spirits in Valhalla disappear? Like, what are the rules? Wesley Phelps.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Wesley Phelps. I liked the movie, but there is one thing that I was confused about. How did Jane get from her hospital bed to the center of the universe with just Mielnir? You know, I just kind of chalked that up to with Mielnir, you can fly, and it doesn't seem to be a hindrance that they're out in space where no air exists. But they needed Stormbreaker and... the ship, maybe because there was multiple of them? Maybe it took, because she's just her. Maybe she was just like, I'm going to helicopter my way there.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I don't know. It's a good question. You know, I hadn't thought of that. It's just herself and not the crew. I forgave a lot in the Dark Night Rises. How did he make that big gasoline bat signal? Why was that worth the time? How did he just get back to Gotham? And it's funny, I didn't really
Starting point is 01:31:34 register that she flies in on Valky's steed. at the end there too she takes mule near but she also has the horse yeah ian schmidt points out oh yeah whose name i'm forgetting because it's not pegasus is it it is a pegasus right yeah well anyhow all right it's a talking horse in the comics and he's great sky shaxson has the soul of friga in there yep hanging out it's like oden and friggia bro it chilling speaking of entertaining flev dorin i've been watching you guys for a long time and i haven't seen such a perfect chemistry from
Starting point is 01:32:10 a third person like Coy has with you guys. Great addition. I hope everyone we've ever brought on here here's that. Watching right now. Aaron Alexander Andrew Gordon. Yeah. The countless females everyone. The monolith
Starting point is 01:32:26 of female guests. I mean there's I mean there's a freaking what's it. Oh my God. Ace. Ace I've gotten to know through him being here. Like I was getting to know Coy up for quite a while. Like, we were both getting in McQuay.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Before, yeah, you came on. And Ace, I was like, I don't know Ace that well, but he's coming off for everyone. Sure. We'll hang out for six hours. Off topic, though, Coy. Oh, what shows other than the MCU ones are you currently watching? Tell them about the show you were raving about when you walked in here, man. Wu-Tang and American Saga
Starting point is 01:33:00 ain't nothing to fuck wit. Wu-Tang and American Saga is like if the crime thriller elements of Breaking Bad had a sweet, sweet baby with Walk the line. It is one of the best biopics I've ever seen. It's one of the best crime thrillers I've ever seen and it's about 90 Staten Island. It's about Shaolin. It's about the
Starting point is 01:33:16 birth of what modern hip-hop is in my opinion. It's about the greatest rap group of all time. And it's masterfully directed with some of the most creative shots about the birth of creativity I've ever seen. The acting is top-notch if you care about Method Man, Risa, ODB, Gizi, any of the Wu-Tang clan,
Starting point is 01:33:32 you get to experience how they came to be, you get to experience some of their own history. They balance a lot of tones really well. They do the thing that Daredevil does well where opposing viewpoints are each given their time to shine so you're conflicted as a viewer as to what you want to expect. I cannot sing the praises higher of Wu-Tang American saga. It's on Hulu. It's got a lot of Emmys. It's going
Starting point is 01:33:48 into its third and final season this year, so you've got only two seasons, 20 hours of peak television to enjoy. And also Ted Lassau changed my life. I think those are my top two right now. But I went on a long rant about mine is love is blind on that voice.
Starting point is 01:34:06 No, I'm not, no, no, no. I don't want to mention shows that we've already watched here. Love is Blind. Great reality show. And, uh, better call Saul. I'm excited for us. God, I love better.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Yeah, strangeer things? I'm never going to react to it here. Don't ever ask me. And, uh... Afterlife? Ricky Jervase. We've got a lot of shows. Atlanta?
Starting point is 01:34:31 Oh, I'm so, I got to see season three. Atlanta's incredible. Love on the spectrum. Amazing. show. Pam and Tommy was pretty good. Rick and Morty
Starting point is 01:34:40 season five have finally started. Ooh. Yeah, I mean, Wutang, Ted Lassow are my big ones.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Stranger Things is right there up with it. Cobra Guy is awesome. Yeah, I think those are mine.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Those are my go-toes. I have seen no new TV that you haven't witnessed me watching here. This is us.
Starting point is 01:34:57 This is us. Get your therapy on, you lovelies. Get your cry out. Pegasus was Persius.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Purse. No, no, no, go down. Go down a little bit. Aragorn
Starting point is 01:35:08 No, it's not true Is it? No, it can't be That would be too much Norcajum Are you done reading Super chats? No, we got more
Starting point is 01:35:15 In fact, I am worried about Daredevil Disney Plus I've been worried about Daredevil Disney Plus. I've been worried about Daredevil Disney Plus for a while.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Method man wasn't Luke Cage Very long time, man All righty Cass Cinema Review Like other people who get upset When like we have the regular chat here
Starting point is 01:35:34 And we interact With you But you know If someone contributes Super Chess, people get upset. Also, I'm just like, oh, shit, okay. Sorry, we're doing both. You're upset. What do we do here?
Starting point is 01:35:44 I'm just, we're trying. It's a lot going on. Thanks to everybody chiming in the poll. We appreciate the Super Chats. Ragnarok is still everyone's vast favorite of all the Thor's. This is pretty much how you expect. At least is number two. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Love and Thunder Strong number two. Thor, the original number three. And everybody doesn't love the dark. I weirdly thought that. that it might be a little bit closer with the first Thor movie. I like Thor more than most. The first Thor I think I hold closer to ragger on.
Starting point is 01:36:13 I think it's a bit of an underappreciated gym. I do too. And I just rewatched it on Thursday. On Thor's day, we did all four of the movies. We got the shirt. Yeah. And like,
Starting point is 01:36:20 rewatching it holds up real well. I think it's, and Chris Hemsworth's funny in it too. Yeah. And like the world they built. It's incredible. I love the texture of the wardrobe's great. I love the texture of the world.
Starting point is 01:36:31 I love Asgard. I think Loki's phenomenal in it. He's a bit more like animalistic. Yeah, yeah, I mean, they've definitely, like, funnied up everyone. David Valenzuela in the chat is what we do in the shadows. Terrific, I'm not caught up, but probably the most recent outside show I have seen would have been our flag means death, which is Taika and company. So, Christina, thank you. Very good.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Good to know. I heard the bear is awesome. I haven't had time to watch it yet, but I've worked in restaurants, so I'm curious. I don't know if it's going to give me trauma, though, working in restaurants. Casinima Reviews. How, with How, he diagnosed Thor in Ragnarok and Valkyrie in this. Corrug should really consider becoming a therapist for MCU heroes. I would love Tyca just therapeutizing like Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 01:37:16 He's just got the white wolf in the chair. He was explaining how he views corg. And it suddenly completely clicked with me when he explained it of how he views Korg as a New Zealand bouncer. Oh, 100%. 100%. I can see that. They're like these big guys
Starting point is 01:37:36 who can fuck you up. But they're just sweetheart. They're so nice and so soft-smoking. Yeah. And I was like, oh yeah, that's a great.
Starting point is 01:37:44 That is core. Yeah. I love that so much. But I forgot that. What's the race? Cronin. Cronin. They show up in a dark world.
Starting point is 01:37:52 At the very beginning of dark world. I forgot about that. If you'd known, you could have won of a Mielnier Ice tray. I still have the Morbius poster I won from you in the back of my car. That makes me so.
Starting point is 01:38:03 It's always in the back of my car. It is buried in my trunk. I like to give out things. It lives in my trunk. It's morbidst sweep, sweep. It's morbid time. Michael Ritchie, FPL Swanson. Hello to Scotland.
Starting point is 01:38:15 And hey, glad you were at the cinema. Good patronage. BFunk 3778. John, what is this? This is a moment of silence. Amen, sister. We are very grateful. We like moments of silence.
Starting point is 01:38:27 The Sunk die a man. Don't go all Chris Pratt on us there. I'm so sorry. I don't read that. over here. I've never seen the boondog saints. What?
Starting point is 01:38:36 That's a reaction waiting to happen. I think. There's two. I know. I saw the second one. Actually, I saw Kill Bill 2 before I saw Kill Bill 1.
Starting point is 01:38:46 What? Do you really see the second one? Boondock Saints or Kill Bill? No, I haven't seen any of it. I'm so excited for you to see Willem Defoe and Boondock Saints. I am about to have a religious
Starting point is 01:38:54 experience with Wilmdafo and Boondock Saints. That's the number one thing I'm excited about. That's incredible. Yeah, you've seen Boondock Saints. I saw it twice when I was really, really young. He is just such. a vibe in that movie. I honestly can't tell you
Starting point is 01:39:05 what the hell the plot is. I just remember. All I remember are moments of Willem Defoe when he's in bed with the one guy and then and then when he is doing like the gun. Two dudes are hunting down bad guys like the Punisher.
Starting point is 01:39:21 Oh, I thought they're bad guy. That's how little I remember. You'll see. Oh, wait. Some of it's coming some of it's coming back to me a little bit. And it's all in Boston. The conflict that happens at Willem Defoe. Yeah. Yeah, because he's gay, right? It's a good time.
Starting point is 01:39:36 It's shockingly, gay? No, no, it's just... It's not a male-exual point. He just is gay, which is, like, way ahead of its time. Like, he just happens to be gay. Hey, Amanda Hernandez hasn't seen it either, so I'm not alone. He just happens to be gay. That's good.
Starting point is 01:39:50 That's how characters should be. Yeah. Don't make a big deal out of it. I'm starting to get concerned as a long-time MCU fans to 2000. Ever since the Incredible Hulk. Iron Man. been really worried about
Starting point is 01:40:04 credible home I think she's saying or he is a fan since 2008 but I like the idea of that being concerned since I am starting to get concerned over 10 years and 14 years of frustration like yeah
Starting point is 01:40:16 I've been upset for 14 years I don't know how this is gonna go really quick in the chat Mandalorian wants to know do you think there's a chance for Balder the Brave or Angela to appear in future Thor movies apparently Bald of the Brave has been cast and has been meant to appear in all
Starting point is 01:40:33 for a Thor movie I don't know who it is I don't know what that is but it's so funny to me I doubt it but maybe and I don't know how they're going to use Angela and I don't know about the legal rights to Angela because Angela was actually an image comics creation that they retconed into being Thor's sister so Angela was invented
Starting point is 01:40:49 in the Todd McFarlane Image Comics era and in a full run over there she has been acquired by Marvel Comics and is now canon as Thor's sister but I don't know about the legal rights to put those characters on film Also Tripe X says Thor Ragnarok had the best Thor, best Loki, best Odin, best villain, best humor, best Hulk
Starting point is 01:41:05 Grandmasters there, best action scenes and best fight scenes. Yeah, I think Thor Ragnarok is a cooler movie. It's P-Cool. I think it's like a cooler film. It's P-Sick. Yeah. Although what I will say for the, like I love that it's like, part
Starting point is 01:41:21 of me goes, it also has Loki. But then I was like, I didn't miss Loki here. I don't think the story needed Loki. I'm glad they didn't try to shoe Hornem in because of his popularity. Yeah. And also, corg therapy webisodes all day
Starting point is 01:41:34 that would be a good Marvel Quibby show corg therapy underrated Michael Max's scene was corg and Val heart to heart
Starting point is 01:41:43 at the bar and karaoke Disney Plus should bring back one shots what would you want to see corg therapy
Starting point is 01:41:49 one shots we just wrote it I want a lot of I think they should do more one shot I think those are really cool like not only can
Starting point is 01:41:56 they like flesh out mythology and help you fix things like the Mandarin but I don't know I feel like Those are great opportunities for filmmakers to cut their teeth and to do something interesting in the world without having to be so kind of in the nexus of a bunch of moving parts, you know? I'd like to see some Spider-Man stuff, like, just outside of canon, like, a fight or a high school class or any of like the hymn just getting to be Peter Parker.
Starting point is 01:42:21 We haven't gotten a lot of that. And now that he's kind of on his own, I'd love to see some Peter Parker stuff, like rebuilding. Pedro Parkour. I want to see what the kids in the cage talked about in this movie. Yeah. Team kids in a cage. Team kids in a cage. Also, is there any significance
Starting point is 01:42:37 or is it just a Game of Thrones reference that the, shit, I'm forgetting their name now. The god of Corg's people is on an iron throne made of scissors instead of swords. Oh, I didn't even catch that and I've seen it three times.
Starting point is 01:42:53 That's amazing. I wasn't even 100% sure it was a Game of Thrones reference or not. It just looks so much. Does it just look like the Iron Throne? Yeah. And I'm like, what's the significance of all the scissors? Is it just...
Starting point is 01:43:05 Has rock paper scissors? Right? Is that the joke? I think it is the joke. Well done, Coyne. Coys comedy corner. I didn't even see the thing you're talking about. I'm like, rocks, scissors?
Starting point is 01:43:19 Coys comedy corner. Yeah, that's my favorite humor. Cured. The scene, thank you for... He conquered paper and scissors. Oh, that's so good. The scene... If that's the joke, it's curious.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Conquered scissors? Because paper takes him out. So rock over scissors. I'm still on this joke. Beauty. It's just really good to get a joke. It's the gift that keeps giving.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Kyrid, the scene of Thor and Jane in the hospital had me in tears. Likewise. The way Chris delivered the line because I love you was the most human line I've heard in a film ever. That's a great scene.
Starting point is 01:43:53 And the way he throws away that line of like, well, that was before I knew you might not actually have time left. you know yeah it was one of those things that flew so beautifully after that moment of like wow we don't know how much time we have like that's such a human moment to be like well that was before i knew you know you know something that really has to be credited despite what you even think about the first half of this movie upsetting you with the amount of comedy or whatever is if it wasn't for tycho y titi directing this film we would not have had such a vastly improved chemistry with with natalie porrman like Chris Hemsworth. So good here.
Starting point is 01:44:31 And I think that gets overlooked just how much, if you watch Thor, Thor, the Dark World, and then you watch this, it's like, oh, wow, their chemistry is so great, as if it's always been great. Yeah. And that retroactive scene where they build in the story that we'd never got, like, and they're like, let's see them dating. That montage, they have more chemistry there than all of the past movies. Everything we've seen. And in 10 minutes, they fixed two movies. Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:57 And that first time we saw it, I was getting cynical. at the start of the montage of like, oh, okay, here's the retcon, and then by the, you know, a couple frames in I'm like, oh, but this is so lovely. As soon as she's got her chest bursting out in the bed and he's a hot dog.
Starting point is 01:45:09 I like the little random... That's love. I like the little random visuals, like when they are separated on the couch and when they're showing their distance and he's got... It's like, you might miss it,
Starting point is 01:45:17 but he's got like the hammer placed in between them. Yeah, instead of like a pillow. It's a hammering out. Yeah, it's so good. And I think, too, it's like, it smoothed out the character of Jane well
Starting point is 01:45:26 because in the first movie, I liked her. she's fine. In the second movie, I was like, she's gotten like wacky in a weird way. I don't understand. And then in this movie, I thought that they balanced the two out. They like synthesized those two flavors and she became an actual
Starting point is 01:45:40 character. They did with her here, what they did with him in Infinity War and Endgame. Like, they found Jane Foster here. Yeah. I think she's, I think their chemistry is like, I, it was so, it's, it's so natural here that you forget that it wasn't this good before.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Yeah. And like, you really, It would not have worked as a film if they didn't fix it. And you needed Tycho Waititi's style and direction to truly capture that because we've had two directors try already. And it did not do it. You had the great Oscar winning Kenneth Brana direct them in the first one and it did not do it. You know, they had to give her a ramp to kiss him. Oh, really? Literally not even the boxes they usually use.
Starting point is 01:46:20 They had to build a ramp because he is like that much taller than her. She had to walk up to him. Wow. we oh goodness i had a question and i've forgotten it so let's move ahead all right what season are you on for agents of shield logan oh yes uh the series finale will be up this weekend i am i am so what season is that that is season seven season seven that's a lot of shield that is a lot of shield i was so cynical at the start really i don't know who wrote it too really is it and i've never seen the
Starting point is 01:46:55 show. I love, like, I started so cynically, and it was at a time where I was like, I already watch all these Marvel movies. Do I really want to commit to 20 episodes of network Marvel? But it, like, I cannot sing the praises. I know I see you skeptical. I'm happy, you're happy. But I have really enjoyed it. Comic book or whatever aside, I think they really managed to create some fun and interesting writing on that show. It's got a strong fan base. And a great ensemble and yeah they're like i would be so excited to see quake come to the mc u or something like that or or any of uh the ensemble uh but yeah i think mal gipson should be in the next doorman that's yes agreed he's guard into the galaxy what are the conversations on that set
Starting point is 01:47:42 he's peter quill's uncle i was going to say has any mc u property gotten as much retroactive bolstering as Thor, specifically the Dark World, but Thor generally, because not even, like, Age Voltron or certain of the other lesser-loved... No, they really put in the work to fix... Like, for whatever reason, it's that franchise keeps getting these retroactive improvements and boosts.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Iron Man's just... I mean, Iron Man had the one shot that worked in the Mandarin, but, like, Iron Man's two is just, like, passable? Like, it's not... I don't know if they've used any of that lore, whereas you need the Thor lore. So, I don't know, and then cap, like, the three caps are pretty consistent. True. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Apparently, Natalie Portman was on the rap for all the walking scenes as well. She's very small. Kieles or Kiyuz Samau? I'm sure I butchered your name there. Could you guys do the gore dance? What's the gourd dance? He has talked about this
Starting point is 01:48:39 Christian Bale. They had a Kate Bush dance sequence that they worked on and it never was filmed because they were like, they're never going to let us shoot this. But he worked out. some kind of dance to Kate Bush. Kate Bush was almost in the two biggest things of the summer.
Starting point is 01:48:54 And I don't know if it was running up that hill or a different joint from Kate Bush, but I'm just so thrilled for all of the love. I hope it is run that. It just sort of ruins everything from strangers things. He even cited, like, her as an inspiration for how he shaped Gore's character. Like, he was like, yeah, he listed, like, three things, like, Apex Twin, is it? Apex Twin, yeah, Apex Twins, Kate Bush, and then, like, what are the thing? Nospharatu, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Yeah. But those are his inspirations for Gore. I would love to see that dance. I hope that he'll do it like as a viral video or some silly little online thing or something. It is Apex, right? Apex. It is Apex. It's Apex.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Yeah, it is Apex Twin, yeah. Got it. Apologies. All Apex 10s. I've made that error. I want to become an Apex predator. A. Remember when that was the it word of every blockbuster for two years.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Every movie. And it was like the year after a Cloverville because they clearly wrote it after watching Gloverfield's those little gap. And then like Apex. Predator. Oh, yeah. Julius Ona is going to do the new Captain America, Cloverfield Paradox director. He also directed Loose, which is good.
Starting point is 01:49:56 It's funny about the Captain America movie is that Anthony Mackey will return. As Sam Wilson. But not as. But not as Falcon. Yeah. What a crazy. Did you see this article? The variety reported on it.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Wait. It's a great reporter. I've had some sassy interactions last couple days. With some great reporting is how they reported it. He's going to return. but not as Falcon. Do you want to hear the real phrasing? That's what they said.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Good. I mean, just for clarification, Chris Evans had to come out on Twitter and say that he is Captain... Guys, I'm white, so let me let you know. Check this out. Anthony Mackey is reprising his longtime Marvel character of Sam Wilson,
Starting point is 01:50:35 but will not, however, portray Wilson's longtime alter ego and Captain America sidekick, Falcon. That's how they announced the positioning of Anthony Mackey. Just say he's going to be Captain American and I literally I tweeted breaking
Starting point is 01:50:51 Captain America two star and Captain America four and then Chris Evans recently reached out and said Sam Wilson is Captain America under that tweet like Chris Evans is like oh to it so um yeah and David McKays is Sam Wilson's Captain America still isn't in the Marvel
Starting point is 01:51:06 Studios logo it's interesting like a way unless that's a very very sort of oddly timed attempt at not spoiling Falcon in the winter soldier, that's a very silly tweet. That's a very silly way to put that. I'm very, yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:23 yeah, no, Logan, he corrected me instantaneously. It was Hollywood Reporter, not variety. How fast did you type that? No, in what millisecond did that have to come across? We got a bunch of people saying, Wuthering Heights is the Kate Bush song. They could see Gore dancing,
Starting point is 01:51:41 too, so I'll have to go give that one a list. I think it should be like Chris, Jim Carrey's dance number in Sonic the Hedgehog movie yes jay tavo for me the emotion of jane's death and thor's declaration of love was undercut by the trivialization of many of the other stakes throughout the film i suppose i do think that it would sometimes forget to check in on the the jane's storyline of her with the cancer like it would i would i would forget about it until until like oh yeah yeah that's a thing that happened.
Starting point is 01:52:17 I think the second half just really kind of smoothed out so much. I just, I wanted to move into that first half, man. I think they're needed I think it needed another 20 minutes, yeah. And like 12 or 14 of them in the first half and then like six more at the end. Like it's mainly front loading that first half. Yeah. But I agree.
Starting point is 01:52:33 And hey, apparently Miss Marvel made it into the... We gotta get Koi out of here really... He's got a sharp. He's a two-hour man. It's sharp two hours. See, if there's any that have my name and I'm before I leave, because it's two hours now, but let's see if we got any. This is one.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Started at 1210. I know. It's 1204. It's 204. I got six minutes. You get six minutes, Koi. I was trying to be efficient. Five and a half.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Koi Pond. I loved this movie from Thoris Splits. I'm just talking to John's like, Beef. Excuse me. I have a question. This super chat literally has your name in it. This is right here.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Coy. Coy. Hey. Befunk 3778. I loved this movie. From Thor's split to the little girl going ham with her stuffed bunny. just seeing eternity on screen. For Coy, isn't Dane Whitman's sword
Starting point is 01:53:19 also a necro sword same power set? Okay, so the necro sword is a type of power, and it is very similar in that Dane Whitman's sword corrupts. His sword is a little less toxic, physically, but mentally it's more toxic. So, like, it leads him even when not willing it to be instinctively drawn to do things, that are bad.
Starting point is 01:53:46 So what's cool about the character we're going to get with Dane Whitman is that basically he's a good guy, but he keeps being told by the thing that gives him power to fuck up. So it's going to be really interesting to see how a hero takes on the necrosword type energy.
Starting point is 01:54:00 So yes, you're totally right. That is what's to come. And I do think this was a great way to introduce that concept. I don't know if we're going to get the same like tenderly visuals, but there is a symbiate-like energy to both sorts.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Mike Kay, I'm doing all the coys watching... We're not skipping anyone's, We want to have so that way we get the ones specifically aim for Coy. I have the last one we did highlighted, so I won't be highlighting these ones right now just so we can save our place. But watching Coy's post credits breakdown, then seeing the movie again got me really excited for what we could be seeing in the future. That is literally the best compliment I can receive. People buying comics because I recommended them or people saying they enjoyed something more is literally all I want to do with my knowledge is like I'm not a critic.
Starting point is 01:54:40 I don't like to tear things down. I like to build things up. So if you were able to enjoy something because of different perspective I gave you, then I have done my job. And that means the world. Thank you for telling me. You got to tear something down once in a while. The Irishman.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Oh, my God. Fuck that shit. The theme of this episode is the Irish. We've never even, all this time, we've never even dived into the specifics. Why I don't like this? It's just a running commentary. Because that's another live stream. What the fuck, boy, and you go, it fucking sucks.
Starting point is 01:55:12 And I was like, what the fuck? We do a watch-along in the Irishman, like a three-hour watch-a-long, and it's just be bitching about scene by six. Every time it gets brought up versus all I do is yelling each other. That would be a really fun show. If you do a, like, a watch-along commentary with one person who loves it. And one person who is anti. Crossfire.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Yeah, exactly. But over a movie. I'd be like, you're ruining my enjoyment experience. It would be really fun to be like, why do you like this scene? Why don't you like this? Yeah. Like, beat by beat. I mean, I'd like that.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Let's suffer through the Irishman together, Greg. Ari's P.R. We have to pause the movie to do that. It would be a very tricky watch a lot. Ares Piorke says 72-hour stream, please. I agree. Tim Infinity, off-topic question for Coy. Do you think the MCU will ignore or reclassify new humans
Starting point is 01:55:58 and introduce inhumans solely as the royal cosmic-y ones? So I do feel like new humans will kind of be folded into inhumans, at least in the beginning. They might get another tier where, like, inhumans have already been established enough that new humans can be a thing. But I think in the beginning we are going to see in humans. And I do think the royalty element
Starting point is 01:56:16 will be a factor. I do think there's going to be like a bit of a hierarchy. I personally am of the mind that the Terrigan Mist was what we experienced to Miss Marvel. I do think that was something akin to a Terrigan Mist.
Starting point is 01:56:26 It really looks like that. It looks so much like it. So whether or not we address it now, the cool thing about these shows is the next episode doesn't have to spell it out. We could then have in Captain Marvel 2, the Marvels, they could do that storyline
Starting point is 01:56:38 on the big screen. because you honestly might want to explain the Terrigan mist to the theater audience because some people don't watch the show. So you might want to save the Inhumans development there. So by planting these seeds on Miss Marvel, I do think we're leading towards Inhumans. And I do think that's also going to give us
Starting point is 01:56:53 an interesting conflict with X-Men, which are only a few years away. That's a great way to say bye to you, Kohl. Is that it? Hey, guys, Will Bachelor. So this is the great way to say about. Sending love from North Carolina. Happy to see Koi's edition.
Starting point is 01:57:09 I was introduced to him from Collider Heroes and was sad when that ended. Me too, man. Also, I was born in Greensboro, near Greensboro, Virginia. I mean, no, Greensboro, North Carolina, Danville, Virginia is where I was born near you. Okay, sorry. All right, that is. Oh, is that it? Oh, is that it?
Starting point is 01:57:23 That's it, man. Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. And we can close the Supers if that's the move. We're going to be here for a while. Okay. Much love, Reject Nation. You guys are amazing.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Coy, say it better. Goodbye. Reject Nation. I appreciate you all. so much. Thank you for all the love you've given Koi's Comic Corner. Thank you for all the love you've sent me on Twitter and Instagram. Please do follow me on TikTok. I am going to
Starting point is 01:57:47 be trying to do more short, concise 15 one minute videos, 15 second one minute videos explaining some of the stuff I do right here. But the welcome has been absolutely incredible. I think if it wasn't called the Irishman, I'd enjoy it more because it's like you. You got De Niro. I mean, we'll talk about it. But I do appreciate
Starting point is 01:58:05 all the love and you guys are the best. And I love. doing the show here and i will be back on tuesday for miss marvel with these gents and we are cooking something up oh we mentioned at the top uh we're going to do a full on mc u ranking all of the movies i might sprinkle in the shows we'll see if i got time but the entire mcc today ranked and that's going to be really fun and it's just my opinion it's only my take so don't take it personally just know it's my personal journey with it so much love i'll see you guys soon all right i'm just going to walk coy out john you better hold down this live stream you're going to go from
Starting point is 01:58:39 two, three energies of three people to just one. And John, you're going to have to make up for a goal. So I hope you just yell and yell because I hope your mind goes. That's the equivalent of three people, right? Me screaming at the people. Scream like the goats. We're right back with you, Johnny. Come to Comic Con. I'll see you down there. I'll see you San Diego. Go back.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Oh, yeah. Go touch coy. Go touch coy and breathe on his face. Yes. It's every implication. you need. Ryan Wright versus Thor is what I want to see definitely. And I love that Coy is inspired so much. I Irishman love in here. Yes, O'Lentie.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Coy is our comic book guru. And lots of love for the god of dumplings in here, which I do appreciate. I feel like as much as people have begrudged the comedy of this film, everybody does appreciate bow, which I also appreciate. But yes,
Starting point is 01:59:37 Ant-Man has trouble calling Captain, calling Sam Captain slash Falcon, and Sam correctly said he's cap on the cruise ship adventure. Is that like, wait a minute, is that like a real cruise ship thing? Captain Zelensky is truly Captain Ukraine? Dang, I'm surprised. I bet there are a lot of artist renderings of that out there. Captain Japanese, geez, there should be a captain for every single country and then just personify the weirdness of the world at large. Yeah, guys, what was your favorite moment overall from the film? Favorite comedic moment, favorite anything moment, but especially because the comedy has been so debated and such a point of contention, was there any particular joke, even if you
Starting point is 02:00:28 weren't a fan of the first half of the movie or the overall reliance on humor? Was there anything that you guys thought was particularly inspired, particularly funny? I would love to know that. Hey, thanks. I did my best after Dr. Strange, too. I, you know, it's a, you, the group dynamic brings a lot. And I do my level of best in these moments not to bore you guys because, you know, status three becoming status one is always an interesting adventure.
Starting point is 02:00:57 And sometimes you find out watching a movie, like in The Hangover Three, that a size character is probably best used as a side character rather than as the focus so I appreciate that anyhow welcome back to Coy oh my god I'm in the chat so I took my fucking photo oh that's not actually you know it's not me how would it be me I don't know I mean you could have your own this is the only YouTube channel can you just pull up our frame seconds so we could readjust yeah I I thought that you might have your own Gmail for just Greg Alba and, you know, if you have a Gmail, you have a YouTube account. Someone hacked my personality. Use it. Act like it's me. Yeah. Say terrible things to
Starting point is 02:01:40 terrible people. Hit up people for favors. Cancelation. See if you can strike up collapse. Use my name. Jared Dyer, Zeus walking down the stairs. I asked everybody, because the comedy has been so contentious of this movie, what's everyone's favorite bit of comedy, you know, bit of a joke making handshake with star lord handshake with star lord stormbreaker and thor is a popular one that whole relationship how funny it would have been if i stepped out just so i could log into my personal youtube account just to get into the live stream that's what i thought was happening it's like it sounds like something fun it sounds like something i would do yeah by the way for everyone here forgot to mention um sally la monaco who uh used to come on this channel all the time
Starting point is 02:02:25 before she moved away uh she's going to be She hasn't seen most of the MC movies, and the one she has seen, she's only, and the one she has seen, she's only seen once forever ago. So much so that we did, she did so. So I was like, wow, you really haven't seen these movies? She's doing Marvel movie reactions for us, and she just started, we're going to put an Iron Man of hers tomorrow. And I had to, like, do an insert in the video sitting right now. I was like, yeah, so Sally didn't watch the post credit scene because she completely forgot that there are post credit scenes in these movies. That should be an Instagram web series to Sally's quick post-credit reactions.
Starting point is 02:03:03 I was like, this is the proof in the puddings right here that she does not know these movies. The fact that she did not stay for a post-credit scene. I was like, wait, you know there's a post-credit scenes you got to stick around for, right? She's like, no, oh my God. He is an MC new, but it's fun watching her reactions to shit. So she hasn't seen like the Avengers movies and all that. I think it's going to be something awesome. It's going to be exciting.
Starting point is 02:03:28 I'm excited for the new Joker movie. I hope they kind of do my cult of Joker film. It's going to happen. They've been watching these videos. Wait, what wasn't you? Someone in the chat has a Greg Alba icon here. Yeah. Someone's stolen Greg's identity and is using it for hijinks.
Starting point is 02:03:47 What do you need advice on Sarah Williamson? We can try. And yes, Greg will be marrying Sally. Polygamy is legal. David Lyman Limin Third Fave in Phase 4 After Shung Chi and No Way Home
Starting point is 02:04:02 Bail and Portman were standouts Kid fight was hype Shocked when Kid fight Kid fight Yeah, kid fight Team kids in a fight Get the kids fighting
Starting point is 02:04:11 Throw some money down for them Kid fights Yeah Battle it out kids Kid I got Blu-ray DVD What do you want Kid fights all pretty Is there actual parts in the world
Starting point is 02:04:21 Where they do that Oh my God So now it's not funny anymore shocked when initially thought cord died they're a real kid no there's like the corg dying I thought they might have milked that a tad bit more
Starting point is 02:04:32 because I was shocked too I was like oh my god they killed off cork yeah it was too and then immediately he's fine I love how matter of fact the super chat is comedy's fine and overhated Hemsworth will forever be Thor get over it guys
Starting point is 02:04:45 I mean kind of I mean he will he is he is indelibly it's like for as much as people are torn about the comedy and as much as that might come from him I feel like there is something it's like I was realizing yesterday
Starting point is 02:05:01 and I'm sure I've thought about it before but it's just like wow the way they cast at least this first the first wave has been fascinating and they did make some like iconic it seems like choices in people like Chris Hemsworth
Starting point is 02:05:15 or Downey Jr. or Chris Evans or you know I mean it seems like he in the movie though because everyone a lot of people seem to harp on the fact he's like a more buffoonish than before. Yeah. And it seems like throughout the movie, as he gets more in tune with the truth within himself, he, the buffoonish quality starts to diminish.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Yeah. So I feel like it kind of is intentional. I see the complaint that it's maybe inconsistent with previous characterizations, but to me it's what you said. All of the words. Yeah. And to me, it's what you said. And also that for the first part of the movie, I think part of the point is that he's
Starting point is 02:05:52 teetering on being part of the problem Gore is describing in the first place he's, they call him God of destruction once he actually, you know, saves the people of that planet and utterly destroys their sacred shrine. You know, he's easily teetering on being
Starting point is 02:06:08 you know, that negligent you know, destructive force or, you know. So I feel like there's a lot in the themes of the movie that motivate that to. Povemire. Yeah. When Thor asked Gore at the end, what he was seeking, I thought the means to fight injustice.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Hmm. That's a good... What's that a reference to? I mean, I hear injustice and I just think of DC villains, but I don't know. I mean, I think that's kind of at the core of what Gore is getting to is sort of like a reckoning for the true, you know, cosmic imbalance of, you know, we're led to believe that these gods are looking out for our best interests and have some kind of provision
Starting point is 02:06:58 and concern for their people but it turns out not and that is a great injustice you know I mean he comes to this god prostrate after you know the wiping out of his entire people which you would argue is an injustice is Jojo Rabbit R-rated
Starting point is 02:07:15 yes I believe it is God I would love to see an R-rated version of this yeah right i feel like this is one of those both dr straint both multiverse of madness and this movie i'm like those would be good r-rated films yeah they would absolutely i don't really get that feeling too often with the mccu films but this well these last two movies i i did find myself going
Starting point is 02:07:39 these would be good r-rated films yeah then we would get our god butchering yeah yeah i mean that is kind of the the part i think of why i i think it's totally okay to expect more god butcher because even even the in the beginning when thor stabs that one god in the throat it's pretty violent to look at it at first especially in your first few minutes when everyone here as i can imagine when you're hearing like a movie just a wacky comedy and then that first 10 minutes is like super dark and then in the beginning he stabs that that good reveals like oh there's a knife a sword just in a person's throat yeah it's kind of jarring at first yeah and uh and and and and and after seeing dr strange which
Starting point is 02:08:24 pushed the violence boundary quite a bit uh yeah i you would think they would be like a little bit okay with i don't know i guess tonally too like this movie's also definitely appealing their families way more than dr strange is attempting to you know yeah i mean i feel like dr strange is trying to get to the r whereas this one is sort of it winds up there naturally but not on purpose if that makes sense Jared Dyer, thank you. Hey guys, didn't love this one as much as Ragnar up, but still really enjoyed.
Starting point is 02:08:55 What do you guys think he who remains wish to eternity was? Is there a thing established in there that he who remains made a wish to eternity? I mean, it wouldn't make sense with what the movie lays out because isn't it that the first person to reach eternity gets the wish? And Gore, ostensibly, would be the first person to reach eternity. Oh, is the rule the first person? I don't know how strict it is,
Starting point is 02:09:19 but I believe that's what they say is like he's looking for eternity and the first person I think that's how it was phrased is the first person to reach it gets the twist or gets the wish. Can you guys clarify in the chat for us if there's a whole thing here about
Starting point is 02:09:35 I mean I didn't catch anything about he who remains unless it's about I mean unless his visit shows up in that temple somewhere family's coming out to see Thor's ass That's right.
Starting point is 02:09:49 A lot of people are. And the MCU know nothing. They say first person in Thor 11th, under, yeah. Okay, okay. So I don't know. I mean, I guess he who remains would wish for the wish.
Starting point is 02:10:06 I want my wish. Damn, Gore. That's pretty impressive. Yeah. And that image of him just crawling through the hole is lovely. Okay. Everyone's correcting me for sure.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Yeah, I was 100% wrong on it. Yeah. 100%. I don't know. I don't know what He Who Remains Wish would be. So are you getting sick of all these Marvel movies? No. Not really.
Starting point is 02:10:35 It's a... I don't know. Yeah, I wondered at one point if I would, but they're always fun. It's always a fun prompt, you know. I think weirdly because they're not... reliant on setting up other movies like it's not as just set up other movies or being insanely connected to other films that it's not wearing on me in this it doesn't wear on me in the same way if that makes sense because before i think the problem before when people were always like
Starting point is 02:11:09 a little bit concerned about too much marvel movies the feeling was it kind of felt like you were watching like sequels to a certain extent like obviously not but in a way they all kind of are sequels to each other and this is the time when they haven't been feeling like that with the movies and shows like they're all kind of doing
Starting point is 02:11:30 their own thing for the most part like Dr. Strange is the most connected yeah at of anything in other than Spider-Man but you know but even that's going for a different kind of movie and it ups the ante in terms of how grim and gruesome you can get so it does feel like yeah
Starting point is 02:11:46 they're exploring new shades even if people think that this phase is listless in terms of the overall, you know, big plan. Yeah, it's been, it's, I, I heard it in, and I think Dan Merle's reviews, like, you know, six Marvel movies this year, you know, this is like, you know, an example of Marvel fatigue, and I was like, oh, I'm not feeling that way, partly because of what you're describing is sort of like, it seems like they are bothering to at least try and make these different. They don't feel all the same to me, and that's part of the fun, and I think that's part of the fun. and I think that's part of the vitality. I think the fatigue only settles in and you don't like something. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:23 Because if you like something, you're not going to say you have fatigue over. Because, like, there are people I know that absolutely loved Moon Night, but then they watch, you know, Dr. Strange and they're like, I don't like him. I'm getting sick of Marvel.
Starting point is 02:12:36 You know, so I'm like, but you just said how much you were loving Moon Night. Yeah. Even the finale included in Moon Night, you know? I feel like there maybe is an expectation of just like Marvel's supposed to be great. And so if it's not great, must be getting Marvel fatigue well the I think the fact that they haven't made it clear on how
Starting point is 02:12:52 it's all connected even though I trust that it will be um I think that is I think that we've been conditioned for many many movies now to see the connective threads and to have many things where you're not seeing the connective threads especially after coming off of something like no way home and and building up the multiverse that much more you you would uh I think that does that has been fucking with audiences quite a bit so yeah it's weird because like the multiverse you can it gives you carte blanche to not have to be so connected and yeah you keep wanting to see the multiverse connect yeah and it's funny it's with you it does because in the first couple phases too people are like oh all the interconnectivity is a little overbearing and now people
Starting point is 02:13:39 are like where's the interconnectivity yeah so it's it's interesting and and I mean yeah like after the culmination of phase three it is a little bit like okay they got to kind of come up with some new plan you know they got to come up with what's next but i feel i i don't begrudge them having something that isn't as obviously linked together i guess because i do have faith right now that they will kind of reveal a master plan and i feel like this being the stage one of the next if we're going by like three stage chunks you know it's act one of the next chunk if that's well i mean here's the thing okay I'm going to do a little side tag
Starting point is 02:14:19 here we'll wrap up the chat because we should probably end this pretty soon because we got other things to definitely work on I'm going to close these super chats but the the thing I was going to say is that imagine with the Spider-Man movies
Starting point is 02:14:34 like all the Spider-Man was like starting from like Toby McGuire if they were really making it all let's say the plan forever was to have all the Spider-Man crossover obviously it wasn't the plan from the beginning but let's say it was and then they were like
Starting point is 02:14:50 every movie was going out of its way to hint that they were going to cross over they were going to cross over part of what made no way home so cool and exciting was they were connecting them all like a multiverse of Spider-Man movies they were connecting
Starting point is 02:15:06 them all and I think that's a bit of the vibe that they're trying to do now is we're not going out of our way to shout at how it's all connecting and an obvious way of how Phase 1 through 3 was build up to the Infinity Stones and Thanos
Starting point is 02:15:22 that was very clear. And I think that's a bit of what we're doing right now is they are all going to connect in some weird crazy multiverse movie, the main predictor being Avengers Secret Wars. But what's going to make that cool
Starting point is 02:15:38 when it happens is we're going to see it all happen, is that it's going to be that much cooler when we see it all happen because now it's like oh the multiverse retroactive yeah yeah yeah pieces come together the same way no way home had that effect and now
Starting point is 02:15:54 now they'll have that with a bunch of different Marvel movies at least that's my expectation and my hope for how they'll do it Alex Bright is hope the food's better in this joint boom connectivity leave your favorite
Starting point is 02:16:12 Morbius post credit scene in the chat last of the stream labs for today from popcorn thank you for joining in hi y'all might not be getting stream labs donos because the link has a period at the end so lazy people might give up on fixing it thanks john you messed up this whole live stream why does the irishman why does the irishman not like the irishman i got a no coy we're sorry we'll get him to record you a special rant i'll have him do a one one minute thing here one day.
Starting point is 02:16:45 Yeah. I don't know why he doesn't. It's what's so funny is like I've arguing with him about the since Eternals
Starting point is 02:16:51 and yet we don't ever go into specifics so I actually have no clue why he doesn't love that movie. Oh, he doesn't like that movie.
Starting point is 02:16:59 It's just me going, I love it it's good and him going it's boring, it sucks and that's all we ever leave it at.
Starting point is 02:17:07 That's a perfect internet debate. That's what a lot that is we argue the thing we hate on the internet, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Yeah. All righty. Let's see. Let's see. It's crazy. When Phase 4, Sarah Williamson brings up Wanda Vision. When it started with Wanda Vision, I was like, wow, phase four is going to be something truly special. And its last chunk can be definitely kind of weaving in and out. Yeah. Something truly strong, too. Well, it makes you wonder what the phase was supposed to be before the world got smushed. You know, because I bet it wasn't supposed to be exactly like this. Things have been moved around in time. things have been recut and retooled and blah, blah,
Starting point is 02:17:46 partly because of Earth and partly because of in-the-universe stuff. Well, I think there was a lot of expectation placed on a movie called Multiverse of Madness that you would think that's when a culmination is happening. That it would really feel like a multiverse of madness. Yeah. Kind of. And then you watch everything everywhere at once, and you're like, that's a multiverse of madness.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Well, I mean, I think when people, especially after Loki and all that, I think the expectation was we'd start seeing how this is truly tethered. Yeah. And it didn't quite do that. So. Nor Cambogh movie could have used more runtime to flesh out gore. Disagree. We were at that point in the luxury.
Starting point is 02:18:33 Too much gore. Too many god butcher scenes from my days. The second time watching it, because that was one of my gripes the first time. And the second time watching it, I was like, I admire who had to cut this movie down for doing it in a way that I feel like it could have felt a lot less smooth to me. And the second time watching it, I was like, I appreciate it and I feel like it's appropriate the way they paste and placed all these gore scenes. I'm not missing him too much from the rest of what's going on. However, absolutely agree. Should have more gore.
Starting point is 02:19:07 Should have more gore-goering gods. uh also just like one or two is like one more scene of him butchering a god yeah maybe one more scene of a god butchering and maybe let a couple of those monologues play a little longer or something like that you know because there's or a montage of him killing gods yeah yeah that's all you need i think a montage would suffice and and then we would be here being like i wish we got an actual scenes instead of just a montage yeah i mean there's there's always something man there's always something there's always the feeling of wanting more Bernie, little Baymax.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Hey, you, what a nice little sticker. I appreciate it. Look at that little dancing guy. Hey, you. Ony, ony. I thought it was interesting when Chris Hemsworth said, We don't eat the children anymore. Those were dark tired.
Starting point is 02:19:55 That was a funny ass line. Yes, I love when they bring in things like that. And I mean, you know, it's a joke. But it also does kind of harken to, you know, like Ragnarok is partly about like realizing that the past was grim and having to accept and acknowledge that. So I thought it was a nice callback to that theme. Did they eat children in the actual lore?
Starting point is 02:20:16 I couldn't say for absolute certain. I'm not an expert, but I think there is something long ago once upon a time that dealt with Vikings eating children or something like that. I feel like that sounds like the kind of thing they would pull from a grim corner of history and then use as a reference. Mike Kay, we got you. Alex Mata calling it now Goat Boats and Infinity Cones are going to be new Disneyland attractions I think Tyca so much has confirmed
Starting point is 02:20:47 that in the set visit video with the Entertainment Weekly or something Also glad they kept SIF around and that comic accurate armor You know I'm not as I'm not married to SIF or any of Thor's friends
Starting point is 02:21:02 in the way a lot of people are And that guy That guy yeah It's just like Tycher They're like Tycho White, he's totally drolling. Yeah. Especially for getting a lot of crap for that. But the SIF, I thought I was having the thought of, man, if they killed off SIF, that'd be a bunch of bullshit right there.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Because it feel like they've been, and I thought they could have used more of her, too. I feel like they've been building up to have more SIF. Does she show up in Shield? Does she show up in Agen's Shield? Once. But then, I mean, they had her, they had Jamie Alexander come back for that sequence in. loki and then you know they were saying how she's going to come back in here and and i thought they would kind of utilize her a little bit more and i was excited for tycho white he did to have
Starting point is 02:21:47 an interpretation or a take on her and uh i was not that i was like this was my thing i'm looking forward to most i did expect a little bit more from her too that's fair justice for siff people justice for Jamie Alexander. I do want a little bit more Jamie Alexander. She's great. Bow. God dumplings is David Limin. Lyman. Agreed. It's funny.
Starting point is 02:22:18 For as much as people begrudge the humor that is among the silliest things in the movie and I appreciate that everyone seems to love it. It's just too adorable. It's too adorable and I love that they animated it almost like a stop motion Pixar character. I mean, you know, there's the bow short, but, but yeah. Noah Sundstrom, that's a nice...
Starting point is 02:22:41 I definitely should have brought some nuts today. I don't know how John Campy does. He's for like eight hours. He's a machine. I get hungry like an hour and every time. Noah Sunstrom, what did you think of Axel? I want to see more of him. I liked Axel a lot.
Starting point is 02:22:55 I think he had a really nice... I don't know. I liked that performer, and I thought he had a really nice back and forth with Thor. Yeah, I mean, I think they had a really nice back and forth with Thor. And there was something that kind of crept up on me a little bit later on in the film. When he does say, I'm glad I got to meet my hero, that seemed very genuine, seems sincere. Like, I believe that moment in the story when he's referring that to, to Thor specifically. So when that happened, but earlier on in the film, it seems like he doesn't really care or like Thor that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:29 And I thought, I don't even know how to place it. it in terms of like when did this shift occur with the Axel or was this always part of the character? It's just he was kind of disappointed in the way Thor was behaving because you forget that, because Thor had no idea who Axel was because he's been gone while
Starting point is 02:23:47 Valkyrie has been running Asgard and I do that's something else in the movie that I was kind of craving was to see Thor experiencing Asgard again and this new version of Asgard because he's been gone for a while now while
Starting point is 02:24:03 while King Valkyrie's been building up new Asgard, and I do wish we had some of those moments of him being acquainted with the people, especially knowing how things left off with him. But we didn't even get that. Yeah, that's true. That's true. He just kind of comes in,
Starting point is 02:24:19 Asgard, and everyone listens, and he rides off the statues. Alan Scott, where's Koi Jandro? He is in the first two hours of this stream. So just rewind. Rewind. And you'll find all of that Koi, good Uh, Tim Infinity, we got you. Hell Swimmy.
Starting point is 02:24:41 In your guys' opinion, with DC and Marvel, can we say that villains in the movies are really villains when writers just make them do a whole 180 turn than they are in the comics? It's like, what's the point in being a villain? Oh, you mean when they have like some type of character redemption or if they're saved in? in some way or more fleshed out? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, of the word villain implies a certain black and whiteness. I mean, I feel like there's the argument that, you know, it's about the character and what the character needs,
Starting point is 02:25:18 and if it suits the character to have some kind of change, but I would say that villain oftentimes, maybe antagonist is a better word, because in this one, Gore is absolutely a villain, but he's a character with a perspective and a philosophy. And in his own mind, he is doing something good. And it's a lot more clear that that's what they're doing than, you know, say someone who's just overpowered
Starting point is 02:25:42 and wants to break stuff. So, you know, I think you get repetitive and boring, though, if the villains are not flushed out in a way that makes them more identifiable. Yeah, because then they're just punched. Okay, we know, we got to punch him. Slightly new powers and I want to dominate, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:01 And I like that Gore's purpose. wasn't to dominate but to eliminate a certain type of entity out there and to liberate everybody who's living under the thumb of all those entities that don't care i thought that was a really i thought that was a cool inclusion of a villain but i i prefer that they flesh out the otherwise it does get just repetitive it's the same shit over and over again i mean i think when you're reading a comic a lot a lot of the time and i's not to say this is the way for a lot of characters but but i remember even reading like the infinity gauntlet and the portrayal of Thanos in there
Starting point is 02:26:34 it's called the Mad Titan and Thanos in the Infinity Conlet series it's like the Mad Tidder he's just like I'm power hungry there's so many so many capsules what's it called in comics with the dialogue again that's specific section speech bubbles
Starting point is 02:26:50 speech bubbles yes with the speech bubbles it's like all caps exclamation marks that I'm the mad tiger and like that's the version of Thanos that I read and in the movie you know josh brolin portrays him a lot more subdued and more internal and calm and and more more emotional and i think that just makes for a much more interesting portrayal on screen versus just another kind of one note straight and narrow type of villain and so i think
Starting point is 02:27:21 the path they've been taking with fleshing out these characters makes them more interesting otherwise you get something just kind of one note yeah i don't think it undermines the point of having a certain character be a villain if it so happens that by the end they have a change of harder perspective i think their villainy is just as much about the situation as it is about just that being the core of who you are but it's been a while since we've i can't once the last movie we've have or where the villain is just like fucking evil in marvel or dc or dc i'm just having a hard tower memory. I'm a little, I'm a little hungry right now. I mean, dark side's
Starting point is 02:28:01 pretty much just evil and so is Steppenwolf. I mean, Steppenwolf has a bit of character flesh because we can identify with wanting to please your boss but, you know, I mean, dark side is pretty much just like, ah, I'm mad and I'm gonna reshape the earth.
Starting point is 02:28:17 I'm coming for you. Yeah, but you know what I mean. That's not talking. Like a true villain? You know what I mean. I mean, Zod's pretty just evil. No? No, he's not. Zod?
Starting point is 02:28:32 He's just like a utility... Zod's whole purpose. He's just a military utilitarian... No, Zod's whole purpose is he wants to bring back Krypton. Save his people. Okay. God, someone is not a Zach Snyder man of steel fan. It's all right.
Starting point is 02:28:48 I got to watch it again. It's all right. Shame. I like the first half of Matt's team. Why are we streaming about this? Who else did we? We have... What was the last D.C. movie?
Starting point is 02:28:59 I don't remember it. Suicide squad, had Enchantress. Who is just a wiggly evil. No one likes them. Yeah, but that's my point. I kind of... Who's like the last great just... Oh, this villain's just fucking evil.
Starting point is 02:29:16 I guess what he's more about the demeanor to me? Because he just has like a one kind of... Don't defend it. Don't defend your criticism. Yeah, just evil. that would that actually stuck i mean it's like that's why i think he flogers joker is great because he is so fascinating and there's nothing about that represents good he just wants to bring about anarchy you know i think that's why he's so like that is like such that's a great
Starting point is 02:29:46 evil character like he's evil and maniacal and i love it because it's like there's nothing good about this guy but they make yeah they make they make them compelling they make that interesting because it's complex and it's hard to get a direct understanding of yeah versus no you're yeah you're just an angry guy yeah with big power
Starting point is 02:30:08 you know that's a good question we should hey leave it in the chat who's the last like maybe someone said it let's see Vecna Vecna you get Vecna but Vecna is pretty evil Green Goblin actually
Starting point is 02:30:24 it's funny bringing back Willem de Fo is Green Goblin, yeah. It was a pretty solid pick. But even he's got two sides and a sympathy, you know. But Goblin is... Goblin is just... There's Norman Osborne and there's Green Goblin. But you don't get them separate.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I mean, at individual moments, yes, but one comes with the other in these movies. I think No Way Home really establishes a separation, though. Because he literally has to get injected in order to get rid of the bad that's fair yeah yeah Staro wasn't evil
Starting point is 02:31:01 oh no here comes Greg simping for Snyder I've only sucked this dick once to defend Zod as a character is not necessarily simping for Snyder I'm being totally honest I was I was looking on Twitter today
Starting point is 02:31:17 and I was just like caught up in some images of Zach Snyder's Justice League because WV announced are going to do an official release and I was like shit man yeah I gotta buy that movie it's cool it is cool
Starting point is 02:31:31 it's such a cool looking movie yeah and I mean yeah I think I just remember Zod is just yelling a lot I remember his performance is kind of good but one note but yeah it's not simping
Starting point is 02:31:44 to defend the qualities of a character and no way home treats Norman is having DID it's an interesting take yeah I can see Dark Ellis Peacemaker's dad is he was just evil and was at least you know you wouldn't want him to be the lead of a show but he was an interesting character well kiata you're bringing up a riddler but even he he's wronged by society oh yeah you totally get or i could totally imagine where he's coming from yeah
Starting point is 02:32:12 mefisto is pure evil especially in his lack of appearance thus far uh ned for hobgoblin yeah i don't know i don't do you think we'll ever see that ned is hot Goblin? No, I don't think they've got the balls. It's a challenge, Marvel, do it. Yeah, Peacemaker's dad,
Starting point is 02:32:32 that's a pretty... It seems to be the one that's like, no, it's a pretty clear-cut answer. That's a pretty solid, yeah. There's no, like, well, I get where he's coming from. Yeah, there's nothing. I mean, somebody out there,
Starting point is 02:32:41 but, I mean, even like a homelander, you want to say homelander is just evil, but even then you're like, well, I mean, they go to great lengths to establish the apparatus that begat you. Actually, I get the heartness, yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:54 Yeah, yeah. you go because yeah even though you see her like you know try to get killed by her own coven at the same time it is like she's got a bunch of power though you're fucking coven oh boy all righty let's see we got we got the action mista 47 the action in here was cool but looks like i'll have to wait for god of war ragnarok to give me the full norse gods unleashed that i wanted here this is This is very much like a panorama of gods rather than, yeah, just like Norse gods in particular. It would be cool to see like the pantheon of Norse gods appear in the Thor at some point beyond the couple that we've gotten. I really want them to do.
Starting point is 02:33:39 I think they can make one hell of a God of War movie or show. I actually, I mean, it's been a long time. I only play God of War once. Like I beat the game. um and it's been a little bit a while and i don't remember the details too much but i remember thinking there is a way where you could definitely streamline the story without losing the true meat of it in about a two and a half hour film i think there is a way to to do that i mean it'd be everything would be a better show when you're adapting a video game but i think god of war
Starting point is 02:34:16 definitely but then again i'm like just play the fucking game it is a great ass it is a great ass video game the story is wonderful well that's a part of the conundrum too is because games are so cinematic now yes and I mean half the CG you see in movies is now using
Starting point is 02:34:33 engines and rendering tools from game thing anyway I don't know what streaming service so like God of War to be on oh are they do is Amazon doing a God of War TV series is that is that really happening I didn't know that oh wow oh America I hope they don't fuck it up
Starting point is 02:34:49 God, it's like, it's that. All these Game of Thrones spin-offs. I get excited, then I'm like, it's back with, please don't fuck it up. Well, yeah, and Amazon's got Lord of the Rings, too, which is another one where I'm like, oh, God, please have the scripts to justify this because, uh, it's funny. People were excited for it, but I feel like now no one, no one's that excited for. Lord of the Rings. Oh, they're looking to be doing it.
Starting point is 02:35:13 Okay. All right, they're looking to be doing it. Got it. Um, yeah. And you asked about, uh, new rock stars, why I haven't covered. It's just been a lot of people don't. And they realize just how much, how time consuming it can be on the back end of putting the videos together. And so, yes, it's been like, really busy and trying not to burn out, basically, is the thing to be kind of cautious about from time to time.
Starting point is 02:35:39 And so just haven't covered new rock stars in a while, which is weird because in the amount of time we haven't covered new rock stars, I've become much better friends with with Eric Foss like I talked to him way more often and Philip Molina both of them I'm like especially Philip Philip Philomolina I'm very I'm very close with now and so it's just kind of funny
Starting point is 02:35:59 if you don't really cover their shit and but now that's the key of friendship don't watch the content just connect on a human level Halo I hear terrible things about.
Starting point is 02:36:16 I've heard that's a real disappointing show. And I've never I've never watched it. I saw the trailer for it. I'm not even like a big halo like I haven't played the storyline. That's why I never even bothered with the trailers. But yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:32 What we're trying to do is yeah, we're trying to we're trying to do I was trying to get more movie reactions going. Have anything that's been implemented a little bit more this year? the movie reaction stuff has been the most fun because I've noticed that actually weirdly allows for more variety because those tend to grow and do well and beyond that it allows us to you know especially to check out more things that just haven't seen yet you know like covering Forrest Gump was awesome like to me that was like so cool or everything everywhere all at once you know these aren't like comic book based movies or some big franchise so to be able to cover them I was like I was like I
Starting point is 02:37:13 Yeah, this is really fun. Or something as simple like Chippendale Rescue Rangers, you know. Things that we normally just want to do a review on, but to be able to do a reaction for it, and followed by an instant spoiler review, where we talk for, like, way too long. It's great. So, yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:29 Shawshank Redemption is next. I still got to see Shawshank Redemption. Mr. Downtown. I'll watch your reaction and not watch the movie. Let me see here. What's next here? It's Gorn Time. we need the gore cut 20 minute more would make this a four hour a four movie four star movie i was like
Starting point is 02:37:54 wait a minute i'm not reading this right am i it was good to see thor gain someone after losing so many p.s what was the purpose of having bost as an easter egg bossed the panther god um i think that is simply to be the Easter egg. I'm pretty sure I mean that whole thing is an Easter egg gallery. Somebody in the chat called out the mention to the Carpenter God, probably being Jesus. I mean, I think you see
Starting point is 02:38:22 Boston. And Coy actually, you go look at that video that we just put up about Guardians 3 and all that stuff. I think there's probably a chance that that particular God
Starting point is 02:38:37 character will be re-utilized at some point or will show back up in context of maybe even as soon as Wakanda forever. I don't know. It seemed like of all the things placed there that seemed like one that could go either way, but it's probably intentional.
Starting point is 02:38:53 Yeah. Jay, tried to vote for Love and Thunder, but the poll glitched and I hit Ragnarok. Oh! We'll start a new poll, just for you. How do you, Bucky Barnes is offering to be our moderator? How do you
Starting point is 02:39:09 assign someone to be a moderator. Without them doing, without them. Let me see here. Accessing the entire channel. I guess I just... We're doing it now. All right, Bucky Barnes. This is your shot.
Starting point is 02:39:27 Here we go. Get at it. Bucky Barnes are the moderator now. Can you really just do that? I just did that. I guess we got a moderator now in the chat. What is that mean? Let's see what you do.
Starting point is 02:39:40 Bucky Barnes, hold it down for the next, like, 10 minutes while we're here. Yeah, maybe that means Bucky can kick the people spamming or, you know, harvest and cultivate question. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. Sorry, Jay, that your vote wasn't counted properly. It's rigged. Love Gore talking to the kids about poor Stormbreaker being in love with a guy who's
Starting point is 02:40:01 clearly still in love with his ex-weapon. Those are two separate ideas, but yes, I love Gore talking to the kids. kids. I loved, like, as much as I love the quiet intensity of Gore, I do like that he also got to be sort of, you know, when he's talking to the kids, he's a little bigger and a little more showy. And I, I appreciated the eccentricity he brought to that. Yeah, he's kind of like a grim fairy tale character. Yeah, he's like a nightmare mother goose at that moment. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Which is a lovely choice. All right, Bucky Barnes. How do you moderate? Do your thing.
Starting point is 02:40:37 you're her little live stream moderators hey we just read your super chat Jay says moderators are able
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Starting point is 02:40:51 everyone everyone's just bans he just bans everyone he just bans the entire chat this is the worst
Starting point is 02:40:57 decision we've ever no one's able to contribute anything ideas comments or otherwise my lean 15 necrosword
Starting point is 02:41:07 equals cancer equals the villain both poisoning hosts yeah it's a nice yin and yang for the story yes definitely definitely you know I think we also got to watch you haven't seen Tangled
Starting point is 02:41:24 no there's a whole period of Disney phillics I haven't seen I got a whole list of movies written down and no one's going to care watch reactions of those but there's a few that I think John should do solo
Starting point is 02:41:41 oh happily you haven't seen you haven't seen Fight Club haven't seen Fight Club haven't seen What TV did you set up? The one that you gave me I from like three years ago Yeah I mean I have it I've had it this whole time and I use it
Starting point is 02:41:55 But I it my desk isn't really Big enough to accommodate it And it's you know the room The shape and the size of the room It's a little awkward to have the TV on the desk but I just made the best version of that I could, partly because for the Shield finale, I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 02:42:13 Usually when I'm shooting TV reactions, A, it's a testament to the shows. The shows that I watch solo are lovely enough that it's easy to focus on no matter what I'm watching on, but usually I'm just watching on a little laptop, and usually it's just like, I've got time now, so I'll do it now. Whereas for Shield finale, I was like,
Starting point is 02:42:30 no, I want the big TV, I want to make this nice, this has been a journey. So, yeah, so for movies and things like that, I, you know, could probably make that happen as well. Demon Slayer definitely got to happen after Shield's done. And then, yeah, there are a few movies I would happily do. Fight Club, Face Off. I was going to say, should you do Fight Club and Face Off. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 02:42:53 Boondock Saints. I could wait. All right. That's a cult movie. Fight Club and Face Off. Probably good. I'll shoot them tonight. but yeah
Starting point is 02:43:06 back in an extra seven hours tonight yeah man um yeah fight club's only three hours right fight club is is gonna be complicated because we definitely have to work around some stuff on there
Starting point is 02:43:19 um yeah and yeah we do uh someone just asked lost it but yeah we uh we we hire editing help primarily for um help with editing on the movie
Starting point is 02:43:34 in shows you know like back if it wasn't the nerd chronic before it was probably like john had done a couple was primarily me who would edit the the show stuff like i remember doing willies wonderland for a movie and it's just hard because it like this is not a disrespect it's just a fact about like you know when we start a lot of channels like normies or blind wave like that's the thing that they would always that they mainly did right was like the the shows and movie reactions and then like a trailer reactions mainly once in a while you know for us we kind of like we'll talk about movie news we'll do this and that well we would kind of like mix it up a while and then and then so we started doing the shows and movies we were trying to keep the other regular stuff going to
Starting point is 02:44:20 so it's just a little bit complicated so yeah we've had to get some editing help involved but generally still pretty involved with those as well like it definitely wouldn't get done as quick if it wasn't for the help that we get uh the prepper team they're amazing and but you normally how it works like they'll send back the edit and then uh generally one of us reviews it and that takes a little bit of time and give some notes and sometimes have to send over inserts like for the coy videos you know if it um like a couple of them i've edited myself like from beginning the end but sometimes we'll hand it to them to do the first cut and then usually it's like laying down a bunch of markers then all those inserts you see grabbed by us so it's usually
Starting point is 02:45:04 like a few the one of those coy videos a comic corner is like they actually take quite a bit of time
Starting point is 02:45:09 to put together it take a few hours and it's usually a few people working on those so they put
Starting point is 02:45:14 more work into those than we do for just like TV reactions because those take a lot
Starting point is 02:45:21 of time so yeah they're pretty time those those border and be video essays so yeah
Starting point is 02:45:27 they're pretty time and then they're usually a lot longer the first the first the film take is usually
Starting point is 02:45:32 a lot longer And then it takes a, it's like for the one from a few days ago, that was like a, after I cut out the dead space, it was like, okay, this is 17 straight minutes of koi talking. And he cut out a few minutes of this. So, and yeah, that took a while to put together. Nidak, Regnerag, I would love a bad movie reaction once a month. That sounds delightful. And Cloud, AOS stands for agents of shield. But Logan B wants to know. Why did Oden and Jane's body turn to gold dust behind Al-Friga and his guardians killed? by dark elves and Thanos had corpses. Frigan Heimdahl went on to Valhalla, too. Because rules change, man.
Starting point is 02:46:10 Rules changed to serve the story they're telling at the time. And not everybody remembers exactly what all the different moving parts of the previous movies were. Exactly. Have you seen that thing about Tyca asking Natalie Portman if she'd be interested in doing a Star Wars movie? I saw the actual video of him answering that. I think there was some sarcastic. just happening there. Oh, so it wasn't like he actually forgot. I don't
Starting point is 02:46:37 think he actually forgot. God. Yeah. Eric Willem. Because he said it was preluded with him constantly talking about the movie he and acting like he didn't know she was in it. Okay. Yeah. All right. So people have taken that
Starting point is 02:46:53 and run with the headline. Jeremy noticed that mistake left in there. Hey. That was one of the notes left for the editor that he did. Very. I don't know how you sent over the note on that one. Where? In the video, I saw it too, and I was like, we got to get this up.
Starting point is 02:47:11 I'm not even going to mention this. I'm just going to leave it here. It was to be funny. No, I mean, in order to make that, I watched the one you did, and I did the same thing, which is you put the whole. No, I'm saying that the mistake is. They left the picture and picture in, yeah. Yeah. That must be how they do it.
Starting point is 02:47:26 It was weird. I saw the thing, and I was like, damn it. Also, I probably see how they edit these now. Yeah. you know they probably just sink it do a picture and picture and then follow along
Starting point is 02:47:37 with the inserts but hey Nick Bethel movie couple sent me thank you to the movie couple send them movie bunch ray they're right there
Starting point is 02:47:47 the movie couple John Steve Chevy has also been sent by the movie couple and the movie couple is here yes they are the most like
Starting point is 02:47:56 laid bit this is actually how I hang out with people in real life I'm very being chill I'm very, like, I just sit back and I'm very chill. That's what's up.
Starting point is 02:48:07 This is how I actually interact with people. So at the beginning of the streams, I'm like, a little bit more energetic and stuff. Eventually, I just get to this point now where I'm like, yep, this is how I talk in real life. I'm very, very just laid back. You're on in front of cameras, so chilling out is just being chill. But that's not to say, sometimes in real life, in a group setting, I'm much, much more energetic. And then I kind of treat when the cameras pointed, like, we're in a group setting. here we are dcf i look forward to watching fight club with you and ben parrish hello to nashville old mom jay
Starting point is 02:48:38 movie couple couple couple shoutouts in here okay eric will elm what if eternity is used to bring in the x-men i've stopped thinking about the fucking x-men at this point i'm like i'm just gonna wait for marvel i'm gonna wait to be surprised i'm just gonna wait for them to say something because at this point we keep theorizing and nothing seems to be happening um yeah like even with even with dr strange you know it really it really seemed like
Starting point is 02:49:10 this is it this is the time we had an actual we had one of that main mutants in there and even at least go to one time that's got all the mute senate or something yeah you think that's when it's going to happen DJ Hamilton says you guys are my movie
Starting point is 02:49:27 couple now we got a fight with Wendy and Dustin. We've got to fight them. No, Wendy and Dustin are the shit. They are the poop. Wendy is, uh, I love, I love Wendy so much. Yeah, fuck Dustin. Dustin is just Wendy's friend to me. Dustin is Wendy's John.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Wendy is so, uh, at the premiere for Bob's burger. Um, I got some, um, I got some, um, an allergic reaction of food. And I didn't think it was that bad, but Wendy was like a soldier in a battlefield, hunting down security and help and aid. When she heard I was having it and she saw it. And I wasn't even having that bad of a reaction,
Starting point is 02:50:18 but she was so concerned that it would get worse. And she was on top of it. And John and Dan Seiber were with me. And they were like, you're right? It would be fun. Wendy, the second she saw, who it was like, I'm going to go charge out there.
Starting point is 02:50:36 She found the two nicest on-hand medics to help you out. Yeah, man, she got handled. They were prepped. That was one time where I was like, yeah. Good on the Disney's 20th century people. Logan B., is this how the podcasts are? You know, we don't have just an exclusive audio podcast right now. So a lot of the podcasts, which if you guys will be,
Starting point is 02:50:59 be so kind as to follow the real rejects. Anywhere you get your podcasts, we have audio iterations of the TV recaps and reviews, Coy Corners, any particular news items and things like that. They're probably like close to 100 podcasts up now. And
Starting point is 02:51:15 I've been culling some of the backlog that'll make good episodes like, I'll rank in the Batman. So you can keep an eye out for things like that. We might at some point have like a podcast, podcast. But for right now, it's, yeah, it's like you're in the car and you want to hear, you know, the breakdown of Stranger Things or something like that.
Starting point is 02:51:32 Like, that's a good place to catch up with those things. Let's probably wrap up this stream pretty soon. All right. Mylene 15. Also, Necrosort equals hate. It's about triumph of love over hate and death. Grief is love persevering vibes. Well, I'm going to read that again.
Starting point is 02:51:53 On Necrosaur equals hate. It's about the triumph of love over hate. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, exactly. that's um that's what i said in my non-spoiler review yeah was like that was a it's a that's a theme that i'm just so on like literally the reality shows that i've randomly been watching i don't really watch reality shows but i've been getting
Starting point is 02:52:12 into it lately are things that are so love focus based and i'm not talking like just fucking stupid shitty drama you know huh like i'm not one to watch like too hot to handle or something like that. Temptation Island. The reality show I've really been enjoying is love on the spectrum. That is, I was, that's a very insightful series. And I would, I would give that a shot,
Starting point is 02:52:41 by the way, guys. It's very informative. It did miss Chansky for gold hair. All right, next up here. Greg Alba. Here he is. That's a motherfucker. I am a multiverse, Greg from Earth 6-1. oh no i'm honored whoever you are that you're doing this i feel so touch and now every time you've got come in with a different uh profile pick and be from a different earth earth 619 or whatever i really appreciate this that it's actually quite flattering thank you povin mire it was a batman begins
Starting point is 02:53:18 quote i've lost the context for what you're referring to i'm going to scroll back really quick and just see if there's a Povemire that we could maybe refer back to, but yeah. There. Oh, goody. The means to fight injustice. Is that it? Does a Batman Begins quote? Yes.
Starting point is 02:53:37 I don't remember that in Batman Begins, to be honest. So Christian Bale should have said one of his lines from Batman Begins. Is that what you're saying? Ah, yes, I get the joke now. Thank you, Poverty. Oh, yes, the comedy has landed now. These were the jokes I was hoping for in the first half of love and thunder. Comedy explain.
Starting point is 02:53:53 James Goins or Guans Damn, this auto focus is kind of like Going in and out Yeah, it's freaking out I enjoyed the movie a lot But I had a quote Hard time With the Godkiller's motivations
Starting point is 02:54:05 Flipping and him dying Seemed rushed Seeming rushed I could see why Both times it's worked for me And the first time I was more skeptical But I could understand if you don't Especially the urge
Starting point is 02:54:22 To have it go for a little longer and be a little more fluid in flesh actually uh i have a question yes how did thor know about gore's daughter hmm he talks about her a couple times and i can't remember is do you guys know what's seen if he does mention her because i don't i don't remember when because when he that's that's one thing oh no i fuck this uh john fixed my life He talks to the God at the beginning and mentions it there. Doesn't he, does he say it again when they're in the eternity scene? He says you could, you can save her, you know?
Starting point is 02:55:05 Yeah, that's a good question. Identity theft is not a joke. Is that the person, is the real name of the person being Greg Alba in the chat gym? Also, Wendy and Mom Mode. Everyone deserves a Wendy in Mom mode. Get yourself a Wendy and Mom Mode. No one's answering that question for me. Guys.
Starting point is 02:55:32 I think, yeah, it was in the monologue when they are tied up. Is that when he says it? It was sort of the kind of... Because I know he mentions her to the kids, and I bet it's probably in that scene where they're talking about. Yeah, he mentions this to the kids in the cage, but he doesn't mention it to Thor. So, yeah, I don't...
Starting point is 02:55:47 I guess I don't remember the line when he mentions it. People are saying that's when he's... they're tied up in those finds. They're coronerated. Oh. That's the ultimate. That gore guy's just upset. His daughter died.
Starting point is 02:56:03 His daughter died. And the gods didn't save his daughter. She died. Saddened alone under a pile of sand. Okay. I guess he does. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't remember.
Starting point is 02:56:16 I just don't recall that. I didn't think about it until right now. I didn't watch the movie and be like, how does he know? How did he get this information? I didn't question until right now. Oh, my goodness. Are we, we're close to the end here.
Starting point is 02:56:30 We're close to the end. Well, thank you. We are at the end. Bucky Barnes. Thanks, Bucky Barnes. Got a hondo from Bucky Barnes. Look you there. You keeping it 100 in the chat.
Starting point is 02:56:43 You keeping it 100 out in Atlanta. Bucky Barnes moderating. And Ash Chase, hi-ya, hi-ya-right-back. What a lovely little sticker. Love that. A little person popping out from a cloud. It's like anti-thor. Thanks, ass, chas.
Starting point is 02:56:59 Like, Auntie Thor. Ash, chas. Ash, chaps. Ash, chaps. Chapped ass. Thanks, my chapped ass. Also, hey, keep an eye out because I've just received
Starting point is 02:57:14 some lovely Thor-themed emojis for this YouTube channel, and we will have memberships going. So if you guys feel so inclined, no pressure. You guys are super generous, especially here with super chats
Starting point is 02:57:26 and all that stuff. But if you want to become a member of the channel, keep a look out in the next couple of days. There should be a few different tiers that'll have some fun little emojis of us as Thor characters
Starting point is 02:57:37 and a little YouTube general discord server. So if you guys want to continue the chat, even if we're not in the room, soon you will be able. Yeah, everyone fight. Everyone fight. And then hit us up
Starting point is 02:57:51 and ask us to come and settle the fight. Happen on our Patreon. That was a good learning lesson to be like, you know what? You guys are adults and can handle it. It's just a cool. So if you go into the Discord...
Starting point is 02:58:06 It took many hours. We just ask that you use your best judgment and you use your most consideration. We'll get... We'll get Bucky Barnes here. Bucky Barnes, you are on a full-time moderation duties. Bucky Barnes, thanks for holding down in the modern room to give it up for Bucky Barnes
Starting point is 02:58:24 for holding it down, buddy. You did it, Bucky Barnes. I appreciate you holding down the fork today. Dude, you and your metal arm. Patrick Beckstead. Oh my God. Welcome. Thanks for tuning in. Sorry, a friend of mine from Universal. Hi.
Starting point is 02:58:40 I love all of you, but I'm I'd never expected to see someone I know in the chat. And what camera, Jeremy? This is a Sony A-6600. currently. We also have a Canon M6 Mark 2. And yes, guys,
Starting point is 02:58:56 let's do a couple just shouts out to the main chat really quick. If everyone who had a son or daughter die blamed all the gods, things would be rough. I like that take. I mean, I know people who had some pain in their life
Starting point is 02:59:12 who really believed. It hit me in a different way because I've had some people in my life who believed there is a God, like believed, and then have had terrible things happen. And they question the existence of their life of why does God punish me? Why does God hate me?
Starting point is 02:59:35 And that's a very fascinating thing to kind of grow up to it in because it's not like they don't believe God is real after experiencing stuff and not having prayers answered in the way they'd like them to be, it's they believe God is real, but God hates them.
Starting point is 02:59:56 And it's such a... It was interesting seeing a character like Gore here, which the person, people I'm thinking of are not, you know, like Gore, the God butcher, but it is like, that's a real thing that people go through. It's a very real emotion that
Starting point is 03:00:15 there are people who really go through that. Yeah, feeling like whoever your chosen higher power either hates you or doesn't care at all is ambivalent towards you. But, you know, I'm talking like there are people I know who, it was like a daily thought and thing
Starting point is 03:00:32 they struggle with, like, all the time. So it's just fascinating to know that, no, there are people who really have that way of thinking. Yeah. It's hard thing. Like, just become a fucking atheist. I had friends, yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:45 Take responsibility for your life. I've known some people get into that position, too, and it's funny because I knew a couple people who would have this way of sort of renouncing God as if to suggest they were an atheist, but the way they would talk about God was very much from a place of anger for certain traumatic events that had taken place. And it was one of those weird things of almost the paradox of being so upset at the idea of God that you do both. You're like, God's not real, but also like I hate God and just F God you know like all these things as if you haven't let go of the idea that they are an existing thing yeah um I don't know I don't know how to articulate that but uh on that note he says I had a daughter once choose love called the X there we go when they're tied up he says I had a daughter once choose love call the X so he says it to Jane apparently that's good ah yes now right when you laid that out I heard it in my I remember that line now yeah I remember the shot, too.
Starting point is 03:01:47 Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Coldiacs. Yep, yep, yep. Well, all righty, guys. And so in that moment, Thor was like, that's why he's killing the gods.
Starting point is 03:01:58 It's because it is. He put it all. See, Thor's not some do little buffoon. He listens. He puts it all together right there. I'm lost says the Batman is so much better. I think these are comparable films. The Batman and Thor love and thunder.
Starting point is 03:02:15 They are. absolutely aiming for the same thing totally but yeah we guys we definitely should wrap it up there's some things that got to handle the next few hours here but thank you to everyone who participated uh today um thank you everyone who contributed in super chats as well that always means a lot you all are lovely and um go follow coy on ticot and thanks to bucky barns are holding down the stream and uh yeah all righty well we're weird notes and on but we're running here we're done it's over guys thank you guys we will see we'll talk with you all soon and uh yeah peace and love peace love and thunder love
Starting point is 03:03:02 and rock and roll thank you

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