The Reel Rejects - THUNDERBOLTS* SPOILER TALK!! Post-Credits Scenes, Sentry, The Asterisk, Avengers 5, & Breakdown!!

Episode Date: May 3, 2025

THE NEW 'BEST SINCE ENDGAME?!' Marvel's Thunderbolts* - Spoiler Review - The MCU's latest sees a coderie of disgraced & villainous anti-heroes including Black Widow's Yelena Belova (Florence Pugh), John Walker aka US Agent (Wyatt Russell), Ant Man & The Wasp's Ghost (Hannah John-Kamen), & Taskmaster (Olga Kurylenko) along with Red Guardian (David Harbour) and the once- Winter Soldier, Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan) fighting for redemption as they find themselves up against the dubious Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) along with a mysterious new presence known as Bob (Lewis Pullman), the last remnant of the thought-failed Sentry Program... Coy & John dive into all the nitty-gritty details, including post-credits scenes, hints at the future Avengers: Doomsday and Fantastic 4 installments, the meaning of that dang Asterisk, and more! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, super sexy live streaming citizens of the reject nation. You know what to do. You know what it's about. Let us know if that you can hear us. Let us know if we are officially live in this chat. Looks like I may have to fix the chat, but we are here and it is time. for some thunder bolts live spoiler discussion my friends all righty while i fixed the chat coy oh it looks like the chat has been fixed we're live i see it i see it we back we are so back

we're going to first and foremost start off by thanking you guys for being here because it's been a minute since we've done a live february fourth feb four it is march may three Febtastic four March April, May. Three months, a whole quarter. The way that YouTube doesn't take as much from, that's totally cool. All are appreciated. All are up to you. There is a link in the PIN comment, if you so

desire to go to the stream labs. But really, I'm just excited to jump in and engage with you guys, because this movie has been met with a really nice reception, I feel like, for the most part. It feels nice to be excited to talk about a Marvel movie. I know, right? And like, to have one where you're thinking to yourself

like, man, I'm excited to go out and here's some more opinions and yeah grab some other perspectives and it's one of the ones in the recent memory that I'm like especially excited to just go back and revisit and kind of see how it hits me on you know second maybe third viewing seen it twice already for that reason

I saw it immediately as soon as I could again okay round two and then I went to vidiates a really cool way to see it at Vidyts with that crowd it was pretty dope and the composers came out and spoke so I talked to them briefly oh Sunlux was there I had no idea to the credits I talked to them on on the red carpet, but that's like two minutes.

And then at the little event, they actually came out and did like a 25-minute Q&A. Sunlocks did everything everywhere all at once, as well as this. Found out a really cool thing. The film was so tight and so knowing what it was, they actually got to be part of the pre-production. So a lot of the actors got to hear their suites

and got to be, like, they had the score ready to go as they were filming, which is not the norm. They had something of this scale. So cool. girl part of the whole thing. Really nice guys. How beautiful. I am very jealous. It was a cool thing. We both love the vidiots.

Interesting movie and musical. Oh, hey. Everybody's like, oh, Shill, Marvel didn't give it to me. Vidiots. By way of Sun Lux did. I'm sure Marvel gave it to Vidiots, but I got it. Support your local boutique cinema today. I love that place. I haven't been to Vidiots since

they moved into their new space. I went and saw a great double feature once upon a time of the Invitational. and sheep thrills, which was bonkers. It's a nice duo. I like that. I respect it. Kevin Meek, thank you for joining us in the chat. It's good to see you. Doe. I's Robert Pruisier,

Elia Chia, Naval Brar, Dan V-900, an MVP of the chats, who we got Eddie Nexus or Edy, if you prefer. Nikisha, Emerald, Kenneth Valenta,

Kenson, Ivan Lopez. gang we see let's see we let's get everybody's number rating first and foremost and actually while I fire off the final little you know officey thing I'll ask them I'll ask him one to 10 you can yeah all right so we're going to go one to 10 in the live chat we're going to get a general consensus of the whole experience John has seen it I have seen it but we saw it separate and we have not yet spoke of our own numbers are experience so we're going to do that probably to kick us off but the whole joy of alive is you guys are the co-hosts of this experience I want to see what you all thought of this

for me incredible good time at the movies on a scale of 1 to 10 10 being the highest one being well Roger Corman's fantastic So actually I didn't get that a two I'd even give that a two Roger Corman I was out here making more than his means would imply he is an inspiration

to flim makers everywhere But yeah leave us your number rating I see an 8.5 to 9 out of 10 in here early on. I see an 8 out of 10. Let me do this on the other chat window so you guys can see. Wow! Now we're flying. We were not live. We were not live.

Now we were live, but we weren't live in the chat. This is a lot. This might be the least quirky live chat in terms of just like foibles at the top. Yeah, but we're doing it. You know, but the one of the one of the weirds is that, yeah, there are two chat windows. Yeah, a lot going on. Navigate that. But anyway, yeah, a lot of eights. 9.7.8. 9.7.12. I like when people 12, I love that.

I like when people use the pitchfork rating scale and go for like an 8.7.5, yeah, yeah. I'm a decimal, man. I like a decimal, I like a, yeah. I use letterbox, so I'm out of five, then I have to double it. All right, seven and a half, eight and a half, 11, seven to eight, eight and a half.

I think eight is the general most common consensus. I might agree with a, with a seven a half to an eight, depending on how we feel. Here, here we, I've got everyone's number rating. more coming in, obviously. Let's just get a nutshell of your basic thoughts before we hop into the spoilers. I'm sure, you know, and if you

haven't already, Koi's got his own channel where you can see reviews. I did a full 10 minute non-spoiler and a 20-minute spoiler review. And they're both two of my favorite reviews because I had a lot to say about this one that was like from the heart. This brought out a lot of thoughts to me. My overall general

thoughts in brief is that this to me felt not only like the most confident Marvel movie in a long time, but also the most that got what we love about these films in a long time. I feel like, you know, we talk about things feeling like their studio interference. We talk about things being too blank or too blank, where it's, you know, too otherworldly and not grounded enough, or too comedic and not sincere enough, or, you know, too dry. It feels like Marvel has been doing like in every other for a little bit for our

experience. And I think this is the first one in the new era. I think this is the first one since Bob Iger came back that he had greenlit and they had kind of shepherded in the post pandemic era where it wasn't just like make a lot of it. And to me this felt like that. You hire a director like the guy that makes beef and lots of incredible music videos. You get writers like the ones that are on the bear and you make this a very heartfelt emotionally driven story that still has Marvel humor, but the Marvel humor never comes at an opportunity. times for me. The story always feels just and like it's actually

serving the narrative all the way through. You make sure that that story itself is full of heart and compassion and the morals and ethics that I get out of comics. Personally, I love when a story is about a human, very contained element in an extraordinary world

and this is the definition of that. This is mental health. This is navigating, feeling alone. This is the importance of reliance in others. This is the importance of communicating that to others. This is all of those things. with a rag-tag group of characters that doesn't necessarily belong together, which is often your hero's strife,

while using tropes like they fight and then they become a unit together, while using things like a giant otherworldly threat that you can keep contained to New York and then narrate that journey of it, all while introducing new characters, all while elevating and redeeming characters like U.S. agent and a ghost, in my opinion,

was underserved in Ant Man of the Lost, but I could tell those potential and bringing characters even more elevated like Yelena by trusting in Florence Pugh. This felt like an event, Avengers level events. This felt like a beautiful, grounded, larger than life story, and this felt like the comics. And to me, I had a really great time with it.

So it also was one of those things where it made me like characters that I'm neutral on in the comics even more. I'm not the biggest century guy. I like the concept of Sentry, and I like really early century. I like the Paul Jenkins, Jay Lee stuff. But as Century went along, it became like a Deiess Machina. The character became very like, we need a big, strong guy. and also back bad guy.

He became the Charzard of the Pokemon TV show. 2.0. Where it's like we got to send him away. Otherwise, he's always going to use Charzar. So this actually elevated century for me. So all of those words. John, what are your words? Oh, my goodness, gang.

You're done, right? I was trying to vamp Florida. You vamped so precisely, Koi. Give it up for Koi. I saw you like a job. I'm like, oh, now it's John's time. Give it up for vamp, Koi. I think the things are everywhere.

I'm doing my best to grow the octopus. arms and being able to quadruple task. This is, again, I'm almost elated just at how few things have caught fire during this live stream. Also, I see that we've already got some super chats in, which is a huge, huge

blessing. Thank you guys for your interest, and we will hop into those pretty quick here, but yeah, a couple off the dome thoughts, and, you know, if you want a little deeper of a non-spoilery dive, Roxy and I did the out of the theater review for this channel. But yeah, I enjoyed this movie a lot. I'm really

excited for a second viewing. I haven't had a chance because it's been kind of a thick week in one of those weeks where you have the set schedule and then all the things like popping up on top of it and around it and to the side of it. So yeah, the movie itself when I started, you know, when we sat

down and it started rolling, I was into it. The first half was kind of like the movie I was expecting it to be and then the second half really started to crest up into something kind of wholly different or at least that, you know, sort of of built on and leveled up

from the starting point, which I thought was really cool. It gets kind of mind-bending in a really fun but also very personal way that I didn't see coming for this movie, and one of the things I've said in the reviews was I kind of went in expecting that this would be Suicide Squad,

and yet it's, or you know, like a Marvel version of that, and I quickly lost that thought in my mind through it as the movie kept progressing. You know, I think there are things about it that could be maybe even, it's one of those movies where any gripe I have is like just an instance where this could be even better. Like I like what it is and I like, yeah,

the ensemble such that it is. I mean, obviously Florence Pugh and David Harbor and Wyatt Russell to a degree get sort of the most to do. I wish there was a little more for Hannah John Kamen. Obviously the whole Orgo Kurlienko thing is a bit of a meme. But yeah, I really liked them going for a plot that was mostly driven by, yeah, these anguished characters who are dealing with their lot in life, how their setups for greatness did not

pan out the way they were supposed to or the way they expected. And I found a really natural, yeah, assemblage of the team given that, you know, this idea. Like, there are somebody in one of their Dan Merle, Jeremy Jones, or something, somebody pointed out in a review and I thought it was really

astute that, like, there are numbers of times where characters look like they are making peace with the fact that they're probably about to die and they're okay with that and I think that's like a fascinating little bit of pathos for this movie to carry yeah I really human

yeah and this had I don't know like I keep hearing the phrase best since end game and I feel like that phrase is kind of lost meaning because every pretty good Marvel is the best since end game by somebody's metric I think it's like the third or fourth for me because there's been like 12 and I looked at my list and

And it's up there. And I think we undervalue phase five and six and overvalue certain feelings of nostalgia with phase one through three. Because phase one through three, I think I had less pitfalls, but there's more volume in phase five and six. But I noticed there's more booing of the TV shows to elevate my five and six than the movies. Phase five for me is literally half and half. I thought three were very good and three were less than very good. And I don't think they had that bad of a batting average before. but that's still a better batting average than most shared universes.

But the highs are even higher than the batting 500 than I think people give credit for. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. And this, yeah, is definitely one of the best ones to me. And it's certainly one of the most interesting. It's hard to top Guardian three for my taste. But this, yeah, gave me something that I've been craving from the MCU for a little bit. Yeah, like, you know, dive into who these, this B squad of sorts is, get a sort of strange set of circumstances to pull them

together. You know, Lewis Pullman's in Top Gun, we're not in Top Gun, man. So, like, this was my first exposure to him and he knocked my socks off. Like, I could, Aaron, Alexander asked, you know, like, oh, you know, could you see Stephen Young? Because they were originally going to cast Stephen Young for this role. And like, yeah,

I could, but I really loved what Lewis Pullman brought. And it's one of those things where, yeah, I could imagine other actors doing it, but what he did, I felt was, like, pretty definitive. Marvel has had, I've used an example recently, especially with movies like multiverse of madness,

where, like, sometimes you're watching something, and you feel like you're watching the definitive version, and sometimes you're just, you feel like you're watching one of many possible versions. And so, like, a multiverse of madness to me felt like one of many possible versions, whereas, like, this Bob felt like the version for this world. Yeah, and so, yeah, like, what the story's about, the emotional threads that it pulls,

and the way that it ties those into the more sci-fi elements of the plot as you get into the... Void, who I really liked. Like, I was worried at first because of, you know, Century and all this, like, power of, you know, a thousand suns or whatever. And going toward Void instead created this cool one, two punches, like, okay, cool, I get to anticipate, I imagine, with less comic book knowledge, I get to anticipate what century down the line could be.

And also now I get this cool, weird shadow grief man character who also brought a visual flavor that I thought, while conscientious for a PG-13 environment and a bit of a trope, was also done in a creative enough way that I was like, oh, that's actually pretty neat and pretty spooky and sinister. And while I think there are things

about this movie that could be like that much greater, if given more time, I think the movie that they made is conscientious and well-streamlined for what it is. So there are things that keep it from being like, freaking great for me but it's like it's so close

yeah for me it's it's four bordering on four and a half I rarely get five star like any movie I've given 25 films five star in the history of movies so four four and a half is really high for me but I do want to hear three fun century facts that I gleaned from the experience let's get some facts gang

three okay do you want a comic book first via Paul Jenkins the creator do you want casting first via casting director sailor haley Finn Or do you want anecdote from Lewis Pullman first? Ooh. I got all three for you. Ooh.

I did my rounds. Okay. Let's build up. Let's build up. Let's go comics, then Hallie Finn, then Louie P. Go chronological. Okay, so fun fact from the comics. That is how you laid them out.

It felt right. Fun fact from the comic books. The invention of Century from Paul Jenkins was actually something he cooked up five years prior than Marvel letting him release it. He had had a bunch of successes at Marvel, and they gave him carte blanche to do any character. They offered him Spider-Man. which he eventually did do, and he's a fantastic run. They offered him X-Men. They offered him all of at the time, the highest characters.

A lot of those are still, like, the most viable characters. But he's like, no, no, that thing I pitched you all those years ago, that's what I want to do. It was really important to him that there's a character that's based on mental health that he could incorporate into the greater Marvel comic book universe. So it was actually something he lobbied for for quite a long time. So I've been a fan of Paul Jenkins for quite a while talking to him in the red carpet, confirmed that he basically was able to get the character he wanted

by way of kind of like the movie studio method of like one for them one for you i've been lobbying for this character now it's out in the world so that is the origin of how century came to be in the comic books along with j lee an incredible author j a e l e check out his art and then on the casting director side sarah hayley finn i am such a huge fan of i've wanted to do a long form interview with her forever we finally got to do an on-camera interview at every premiere i literally go over her and thank her because i feel like the casting director side of things is so under appreciated especially with a shared universe where you're mapping out 10 years you're anticipating chemistry

you're making comic fans happy investors happy directors happy you're doing a lot of juggling and alchemy so I've always appreciated what she's been able to do with chemistry long form and I found out from Sarah Haley Finn during our interview that Lewis Pullman was

one of the final contenders for Spider-Man all those years ago read in the Tom Holland era to come out for Spider-Man she wanted to work with him really loved his tape and was like that just didn't quite land but landed for Century. So he was close

to being Spitey and then that kept him on the short list and Lewis Pullman was then made Century all these years later. And final fun fact Lewis Pullman at the after party was such an angel. Such a like is is such a

Bob Reynolds of empathy without being like the sad squirley. He's just like an energetic like ah an open like lovely fellow and he as soon as I mentioned I was a comic fan lit up and started referencing comic moments to me

and saying like oh and this is what I wanted to bring here and you guys were the ones that I really wanted to make sure I really thought that this was where we like needed and he was so dialed into the comic books that is so cool it was like he lit up as soon as I said as a comic book fan like I saw him do what I think people see when they come up to me and say comic and so we just geeked out about comics for quite a while

and so he is a diehard centric comic fan to the point of research and loves to hear about the comic side of things. He came, Sentry came from mental health stuff, and Lewis Pullman went out for Spider-Man back in the day. Dang. I worked that carpet. This is Coi's trivia corner now.

I was hustling, man. That was a six-hour of hard work. But yeah, it was fun. Dang, Coy? You know, I've been... You heard it here first, no, Rejects. Especially in films lately, been appreciating the art of casting. I feel like, you know, in stretches of time,

you start to notice different themes. And lately, I've been noticing, yeah, the strength of casting. and I think before we hop in next we will hop into super chats I promise we've got a nice little pile and we've got some streamlamps so thank you for supporting over there as well and also

just while we're talking about support we've got so many badass t-shirts and whatnot over at rejectnation shop.com we just put up the new episode of Doctor Who and the Dr. Who tea that Greg came up with is like one of my very favorite designs I've got one coming in the mail and you can too. I always wear reject shirts

and today's the one day. I had to rep. I just had to be part of the ad for, you know, the stream itself. Look, I'm matching the banner down below. Got to rep the flick. Yes, the casting, though. Like, it's kind of a wonder. Like, as much as the MCU, I think, has a lot of solid casting, it's always a risk.

And it was, I don't know, a team-up movie at a decent time for a new team-up movie. It's always kind of a fun prospect because it's like, yeah, who's going to work well together? And, you know, is there going to be chemistry, you know, outside the bounds of, you know, John Walker comes from Falcon in the Winterlanders. They're going to be chemistry with Ghost, you know? And you know, that

I feel like can be debated because Ghost, again, is not like the most prominent character of the movie. I really thought Hannah Crush with what she was able to add. Like, I really, I was, that was my greatest MVP of evolution. Sure. From the last time we saw them to this time.

I feel like Ghost got the most improved. The Ghost with the Most, you might say. I'm just going to quickly use this close up because I did build it. We're going to hop into Super Chats. Ladies and gentlemen, get ready, you ready for a transition? Wow.

We're already in Superville. Look at that. Gang, we got the Super Chats open. We will read them all before the stream is done, so that means we will probably, you know, we will probably close them off at some point so that we can keep this thing contained. But let's start off with Mr.

Eli Mack. Thank you so much for chiming in. Hey, guys, says Eli. It is great to catch this live yesterday was my birthday, so, happy birthday. Thunderbolts was a great present. Also love the message of you're never alone when going through

these issues. Actually, not far from here, there's one of those like prevention hotline billboards in it. This is like, you know, you're never a burden. And that's very much alive in this movie. Yeah, that idea of you're never alone and lonely people

finding each other to try and make each other feel a little less alone. And, like, yeah, I feel like everybody, many people have a circumstance that they probably feel like few other people can understand or relate to. And this movie definitely brought that quality where it's like, yeah, even though there's so much friction at the outset, these are people uniquely calibrated to understand each other's struggle in a way that most other people are not. Let me fix the chat here. But, yeah, like, it was really nice to get a, you know, as they say, character-focused Marvel joint that did, you know, touch on... I don't know what Red Fox is saying, but a number of people have asked us to ban him. I don't know what Sigma means, but I don't know if he's insulting someone in the chat.

But enough people have said, blank Red Fox, I figured I'd bring it up. All right, copy that. We're going on. I'm going to go with the voice of the people. You know who I miss and who I hope shows up at some point is our very own winter soldier, Bucky Barnes. What did you say, Red Fox? Yeah, I don't know what Sigma means. It's like a frat thing.

Gang, let us know. I trust the chat, though, because if he's being a cun, he's being a cun. Hey. Oh, sorry, you too. You're going to have to go. I just forget which words are, I apologize for you. I, over 21 minutes. My bad.

My bad. That's all good, Coy. We'll get there. We'll figure this out. But here. What can you, why don't you read the next one? I'm going to make this person a moderator. Yeah, that's the, I just trust, I trust the people, the reject nation.

if they say someone being a bad word, I will trust it. I cannot read it because it's gone, but it said, hey, John Coy, and then it said more things. I do not know what those things were, but I will read it when we return. Oh, it's right here. Hey, John Coy, do you think Century is the reason my Bucky and Sam are at odds?

Also, do you think that is the F-4 ship in the post-credit scene? Very much so. And big, a little four on there. Pretty much feel like it confirmed that. But I also think that it was interesting. they confirmed it is extra dimensional and we know, I think we all assumed,

I certainly assumed that the end of the experience that will be F4 will be them coming out of their dimension into ours because we know they take place in another world. I think that's why we've got, you know, the female silver surfer as a marker of like we're going to have the

male service, like Naur and Rad in our world. I think Galactus might even win. But, you know, that. As to reason. Yeah, so maybe that's why they have to come in ours. why that extra-dimensional confirmation was interesting without having seen the film. So we make it. But yeah, so that was definitely their ship.

And then Century is the reason my Bucky and Sam were at odds. I think the reason Bucky and Sam are at odds is Sam has just gone through a lot of proving himself as Captain America. Like the dudes, like, you know, in real life, Anthony Mackie has been having

to deal with the people that are probably like Red Fox. And the other side of that is Sam Wilson having to prove to people like, you know, Thunderbolt Ross and, you know, the nation at large, like, you're not Steve Rogers. I know I'm Captain America. And so I feel like as soon as he finally gets to be Captain America, Avengers with the Z pops in. So I think there's a bit of a conflict of like, I got this. But I'm sure there's more to it on top of that. It's also, Sam Wilson is a very by the books, you know, this is the way it has to be. And like this is, but he's not a blind, spangled, listen to government, which neither cap is, which I always. appreciate. Like, no one's just blindly following orders, because that's how you get Nazis. So, I think that it is a thing where the government

is like, these criminals are Avengers, and he's like, but us heroes are Avengers, that's not, no, no. So I think it's multi-layered, and we'll see. Absolutely. Good, good set of thoughts there, Koitas, Mayank Rananavare, thank you

for your contribution here. And yeah, I mean, like, I don't know, briefly. It seems like Captain America, like Sam Wilson, Captain America, and Bucky Barnes right now, are in sort of, like, uniquely different roads that are almost opposing because Bucky is trying his hand at the sort of, like, can I affect the system from within the system?

Can I pass legislations and stuff like that? And as of the events of Capp 4, obviously, you know, Cap can't be on any better terms with the governing body. And I feel like that's interesting that both, you know, Falcon and the Winter Soldier kind of did that. Like, I think Bucky becoming a congressman and trying to fix things from within, and then that line of like, oh, you guys are causing change when you clock out at 4 p.m.?

That is, you know, how I feel about government. And I love hearing it in something as big as a Marvel movie. Hey, is Bucky Barnes is in the chat. We love to see it. We were just talking about you and fictional. Moderator extraordinaire. Do you think that'll hold? Do you think we'll see a lot of Senator Buck here?

Is that a brief? You know, it's funny is my fiancé had never seen any of the Winter Soldier stuff at all. she's seen some of the guardians we went and saw all the Spider-Man we did the whole Toby to Tom Spider-Man at theaters run over those nine weeks and then we saw Deadpool Wolverine

together and I think that might be all she's seen she was asking me she's like oh if he's always been a congressman how do they explain like him not wearing a mask and I was like oh what an experience you had with like this congressman with a metal arm like her context was like Sebastian Stan congressman who has

murdered people and like been parts of yeah like massive crazy, yeah, yeah. We've elected much less savoury individuals. That's true. But, like, I really like that they gave him that

enough oomph that she was interested in it. So I think Bucky, trying to do that and giving us that was really telling for the character that I love. I'm very, I hope that it's not actually the fantastic for in the ship. I hope it's just like a decoy. Oh, like they just... Howard the duck in the air. Yeah.

Because, I mean, that and that's doomsday, essentially. It's the other fantastic court, which is like a Hulk, a Spider-Man, and Ghost Rider. You know, there's been, like, other Fantastic Four. It's them. There are other Fantastics.

Well, when they're, when they're, like, retired or off adventuring and then someone needs to take their place. Also, Spider-Man's been an Honorary Fantastic Four member a number of times. Yeah, there's a lot of comics out there

in the game game guys. Coitus! I know. There's so many variations of things, which is part of the fun. Goodness gracious. And, yes, somebody in the chat

didn't say, like, the Fantastic Four theme music is credited, which it is. Yeah. So that's a bit of a tip. Didn't love that. If you pay it. Because it goes real slow and you're like, because we saw it in IMAX and I was like,

that's real big. I doubt that they're doing this because it was in the, you know, countdown bumper that they play for the Fantastic Four like skin version of that. Yeah, no, I clocked it and I was like, well, I know what's going to at least land here. I'll ask a follow-up question a little bit. Let's go on to Jesus, our Lord and Savior. And, you know, if you're tuning in from a church, in nomina patria, filia, spirit of sancti, amen.

Gang, am I crazy to think this is a top 15 MCU film, Century! If anybody has a ranking that is very well organized, it is coy. Coy, did it make the top 15, or did it make the top 15 of the middle 15? Or the top 15 of the bottom 50s?

John knows I'm a thirds guy. I see the MCU as being very distinct thirds. There is the, oh, we need to work on this. is, oh, this is fun MCU, and then there's the like, oh, this is why the MCU is what it is. Those thirds, none of them are awful, except some of the bottom third. But middle third and top third, I think really something special. And this actually makes the top third. For me, this is currently sitting pretty at number 13.

It might even be number 12. In the top third. So it made the top 15 for me. And that's an illustrious list. I'm going to fly close to the sun right now. Oh, there it is. Yeah. The sounds of when Drake was relevant.

Yes. Yeah. It may not mean nothing to y'all, but understand that Drake, you know, the ham horn. But yeah, I think it's... Nothing was done for me except the bars. Anyway, let's go on. I really, I'd love to know other people's, like, I'm excited.

I'm going to do a ranking list after Ironheart. I did a movie ranking on just phase five. my page, like just the phase five, six films, but I think after Ironheart, I want to do because that's the end of phase five in TV. And then Fantastic Four is the beginning of phase six. It'd be fun to rank everything.

Yeah, number 12 or 13 for me. I'm just going to agree with you because I'm terrible. How many films deep are we now? 36. 36. 36 films and then I got to say with TV, it's got to be like close to 50 if not 50. And then if you count the special presentations, like we're open night and everything. It's definitely

past 50. I absolutely. Because That's definitely World by Night. Whereof by Night would be in my top third as well. You know who I would love in a Marvel thing and then we'll move on

because you said We're Wolf by Night I thought of Gail and then I was like, man, if we could get old Cassie and Andor Oh man. We could get friggin' Diego Luna in this universe.

I would be suchuffed. Suchuffed. Anyhow, thank you Jesus and moving right from Jesus to Devils Don. Also, shouts out to Bucky Barnes in the chat saying well, good thing

is John Walker can just unbendendendend. his taco shield. Can he? It was still bent in the post-credit scene. I feel like he would have unbented. That's his new shape. Yeah, no, that's that's it. I... Bent adamantium like nothing. I adored the credits medley. And I'm sure we don't have to talk about the asterisk now, because I'm sure someone's

going to bring it out. Oh yeah, it'll come up. If it doesn't, but I adore the headlines and all the also such brave marketing. Also, headlines, what great use of Papa Dockon? Papa Dockon. Papa Dockon? break down this verb I just made up I do this a lot

I verb I verb nouns what would Papa Doc Okay okay okay okay okay so so your verb Verbing Papa Doc Yes Okay so but who is in the MCU But it's not Mackey specifically No it's the actual character Mackey Played it's a many

Layered they put Papa Doc in the credits Okay so Papa Doc played by Anthony Mackie In 8 Mile Yes the act of defeating Papa Doc Was to come at them by insulting yourself first Yes of course. So by the New Avengers

coining all their negatives. They are in fact Papa Docking, but it's ironic because they're Papa Docking. Anthony Mackey, Sam Wilson, who is the true Avengers

making it full circle, Papa Docking. Damn. This was all at the very end of the MCU. At the very end of the end, we're going to cut back to that rap battle club.

Because you know who could defeat Doom. And it's going to be Mackey on stage with the mic. Eminem. And Eminem. That's who can defeat Doom. And Eminem is going to battle Doom.

It is a Force Ghosts MF Doom. He's going to go a rap battle world. Taking them out. Yeah, that's it. You want to go to battle world? Rap battle world.

Oh, shit. And then we finally get T.I. back. As we've needed, it's actually going to end in a rap battle. And T.I.'s got to take it out. I agree.

More rappers turn actors in the MCU, I say. All day, I say. Devil's Dawn. How do you think they will handle Century going forward? From the post credits, seems like Bob

has taken, hasn't. It seems like Bob has taken a backseat and hasn't been doing sentry things and it doesn't seem like he fully even remembers the void experience slash whatever century adjacentness comes with that.

Which I really liked because there was a line of dialogue I caught well I caught the importance of the second time in the first watch I obviously could tell like oh I don't remember what happened and how I got here and I feel like something was dark and like that was already like telling and foreboding but then when you watch it a second

time the blackout nature of he had already possibly started fully forming Century's powers when they were able to knock him out to get him in there because he didn't remember. So I think it's interesting there might have been some century things that occurred before we met, Bob. But I definitely think they're going to use him like the Hulk. To me, he's the Hulk of this new Avengers.

You've got, you know, these kind of stand-ins for Captain America's. You've got your Black Widow, White Widow. You've got your Hulk in Century. And he can't fully, you know, accept the Century without accepting the void. In the comics, it's a really cool thing where he, says that every time basically any good he does

the void will undo. So if Century saves a million people, void will kill a million it's one to one. So he's the direct inversion. So I'd be interested to see if they have all the character to the point where it's I took out this many people, this many get saved or vice versa. How concrete is that if then? Like is it

perfectly balanced as all things should be like as a character. He undoes everything good that yeah. And it's a fascinating look at like if you're a hero, and you know that everything you get, that you do, rat gets undone, are you a hero? How could you even do anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would love to see if sentry evolves into that conversation. I really hope so.

I mean, like, again, as, like, this, especially through him, had a really cool, palpable sense of just chaotic anguish. Yeah. It's like personal anguish, and I really bought the pain he seemed to be in, and when they were all in the mine palace,

which I thought was a really cool sequel sequel. That was like cool way to take a movie that is going for that more gritty winter soldier aesthetic and then go a bit fantastical in a way that doesn't feel too over scaled or anything like that and that yeah allows compliment

to what all the characters are going through. I kind of wish that a couple more characters got like if like with Ghost we could have gotten one of those like I did I did love the line they gave us to kind of answer that with like Bucky are you okay? Oh yeah my past is great. I'm doing just fine.

Like, that was, if you don't have time to do it all, that that's a great way to give us the summation, because that was such a perfect line. Yeah, 100%. And it's one of those movies where, like, have, like, anytime I have, like, a knit to pick, there's always something like that where I'm like, well, that worked out. Yeah, like, again, like, this seems like very much the movie people wanted to make and, like, it is honoring everyone's intent and their effort, whereas, like, again, something like cap four, you feel for the creatives, like, I don't think this is what you had in mind. but yeah I'm very excited I hope that they embrace that with Bob and Century and that we keep seeing them because that sounds

like a really cool source of personal tension like yeah he's probably capable of some really cool looking action but yeah like what's the toll should he do it you know and I imagine that'll bring a nice flavor to the character of Bob as well as all those and the lines we're talking about also add such

human elements of insecurity I like that we got that with Bucky we got the gun scene with U.S. agent who's like clearly just like, I got guns, I'm securing myself and then like the insecurity of like, ah, it's a nice long gun, does that make you happy? Like, making a dick joke about male insecurity will always make me laugh.

So I dug that. Yeah, I mean, his gun is very long. Very long. Very long gun. He's very comfortable. He is very comfortable with his long gun and his bent shield. Taskmaster, I see in the chat, deserved much better. Gang, leave us your taskmaster

thoughts because I am sort of fascinated by the way that they chose to handle that, and I'm sort of not sure how I feel about it. I feel like that character in some ways deserves better in other ways. I'm like, that's kind of fun and funny in a way to at least

it's, I don't know, it's kind of like when Slipknot died in the first suicide you're like, well, you're like, well, okay. Surprising no one. Good to see you. But yeah, leave us some thoughts on that, because people make a point of touching on it, and a lot of the reviews I've seen have had very funny ways of, like, in the form of the review commenting

on just how short-lived Tasmasters is on screen. But Jamco, let's do this, the jam company, thank you for stoking the fires of chat. New Avengers appear significantly more powerful than the original team. Three super soldiers, a teleporter, the second best widow ever, and Century. You know, I hadn't thought of it that way in a lot of ways. ways it felt to me like this was a down, like, not a downgrade in terms of, like, I don't like it as much,

but like, you know, a downgrade in terms of like mass reaching power, you know, like, wide scale power. But if you actually look at the original team, it's going to be a god. A god. Century. Okay. Black widow? White widow. Hulk. Is she called White widow?

I mean, in the comic. In the comics? I don't know. I call it a little bit also ties in a century in those elements. So a little bit more power in the old one. Uh, Hawkeye. I, any one of the, no disrespect to Hawkeye, but, uh, he's kind of barrel. Sure, sure. Uh, and then you've got Iron Man, who's a guy in a suit who, I mean, I would say he's more powerful than any of these guys, but maybe, uh, U.S. agent might actually be physically stronger with the super soldier.

Sure, sure, sure. Uh, and then that leaves. I guess Alexi is part of the team. Alexi's part of the team. He's also a super soldier. But who's in the OG? Who's the original six? It's including Ironman.

Ironman for Hawkman. black widow from the dc comic black widow uh Hulk and oh god like a missing one because it was an original six all right they got tattoos they got a six tattoo the six of them you what am i not remembering there was like four movies and then avengers thor cap i feel so app iron man thorhawk widow and hawk i was it only five or did you just read six numbers one two three four five that is six i just can't count we can't count here we just can't count in the morning on the I haven't slept in so long

that I watched back my Andor review from this week and I literally forgot like characters were in season one. I'm so underslept that I was like, and who were these new characters they thought we'd know? And it's like, oh my I am rough. Apologies and not being on account. You're so money, baby. You're so money. I think I didn't think of Captain America because we have three

super soldiers. So yeah, I think they're decently comparable for first team, you know? Like, guys, I love Hawkeye. I dressed as Hawkeye for the first premiere of Avengers that's the only time I've ever dressed up for Coy will take as many pay cuts for Hawkeye as he needs to. Yeah, we'll get his budget back to even

But yeah, I think it is a bit more powerful because of, you know, the evolution of Century and, you know, but we can't use them just like Hulk you can't really use on your side. So it's interesting and I think it's a fun dynamic. Now who's going to be Sam's is the question I have? That is, yeah,

and I've heard just the basic rumor that, what is it, doomsday will involve a number of teams. Yeah, which makes sense. And that, and I'm kind of saving the unpacking for when I'm, again, sure, someone will ask. But, like, the meaning of the asterisk was something where I was like, oh, interesting. Like, you expect some kind of title update or official label that's not the joke of my old soccer team. Which I thought.

Actually worked for me. I was going to say, I assume that in the comics, they are assembled by Thunderbolt Ross and thus called the Thunderbolt. And that's the government element of being a government sanctioned Avengers. But actually, like, I read that rumor like two years. and I was so bummed that someone just said it and then I was like fuck that's awful. Like I was so worried about like

the idea of it being a joke and then it became such a heart of the film like it's more of a underdog rallying. Well because it like and in ways I think it is interesting that this movie is like a semi direct sequel to something like Black Widow obviously because yeah it's like it comes from a place that Yelena and Alexi share

that links back to like the one time in life where maybe they had some glimmers of just like normal human joy. Yeah, so, like, as much as it at face value is that sort of like, oh, they're making it like a joky thing at the same time, it's personal, and thus I felt like they earned it. And I think that's any heartfelt joke that's like a personal inside joke. Like jokes amongst friends are usually something silly on the surface,

but there's so much heart in it. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for that, Jamco. And two, I guess to close out the New Avengers thing, I mean, they are like some of the I guess it's the Venn diagram of, like, there are some of the most high-profile actors the MCU has right now, especially Florence, Pugh, David, Harvard, Sebastian Stan,

in terms of, like, talent and visibility. But, you know, they're also, yeah, it's like some of their most recognizable talent, plus, you know, characters who have actually worked well enough to be in this position, I feel like. There's a bit of that mapping. But, yeah, I'm, that's the thing I'm most curious to hear people thought. Like, the New Avengers thing, put it to the chat. How do you feel about

that? Did you expect that to be what it would be? I know a lot of people said like, oh, what if it's Dark Avengers or West Coast Avengers? I assumed it was going to be dark Avengers, and it effectively was. And it still could be. I mean, I guess I'm not 100% believing that these are just the Avengers now, especially when you have the idea

the way the credits go down, people are happy about it, and Sam Wilson's also feeling betrayed. He's got his probably own team to put together. I'm curious at how long this lasts. Yeah, I'm so excited. It feels going to be excited. It is, yeah. And to feel like there's, you know,

anything could happen in a lot of different ways, but a good feeling. Destined, we'll do this one, then we'll hop to the stream labs real quick, do a little back and forth, but thank you for Stoke in the Super Chat Fire as a major gun fan, comma James.

The highest praise I could give this movie was it was most gunnish, it was the most gunnish joint that isn't directed by gun, the beating heart of the MCU going forward, made me feel my feeling, my feelings. As did I. To me

this is a perfect blend of my favorite elements of the MCU. My favorite MCU films are, you know, your first Iron Man, Winter Soldier. Quantummania. Obviously, Quantum Media. Thor the Dark World. But if you look at those, like what they do is they look at a character

study. Like Iron Man is looking at like his opposite and trying to become less of a warmonger and that's represented by warmonger and his growth. And Winter Soldier is like, I'm a you know spangled man that doesn't believe what my government is doing and going through that and all those things are really interesting when they look internally this does that but with some of the the gun team uh flavor underdog you know rejects uh but i i like that you see what i did

coy that's us that's what i'm we're we're like the guard we're greek but i think that blends you know your iron man your winter soldier your guardian's tones and i think and obviously Avengers. So I think this is kind of the greatest hits feeling of what we love about these movies, and I think that's why it's being resonating with so many Marvel fans. Like, this is the most positive I've seen

to scale people have with this film. It's not my favorite Sense End Game, but it's the most positive I've felt about the MC going forward since End Game. Hell yeah. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, this is the most confident. I like optimism.

Yeah, you know. I'm glad for a little hope and optimism, absolutely. Goodness. And that's the thing, too, is it does have a lot of the strengths of a James Gunn flick, but without, to me, it didn't feel like it was attempting to emulate his voice. No. But it does have a lot of the qualities that his movies have, where, yeah, you're humanizing misfits and you're finding interesting dynamics that you might not have anticipated between them and all that stuff.

And, yeah, the heavy toll of pain and sadness that drives a lot of these people to do what they do and to try and fill that void with something better. Yeah, yeah. I liked that this was a character, at least oriented Marvel joint again after, you know, a lot of them. Because, too, like, it's weird. Talking about this movie, the sentiment has come up more and more that, like,

talking to the Winter Soldier should have been, like, the movie. They should have just made that a movie and made that, you know, cap four. Yeah. And then had that segue into this. And then you would be like, well, damn, this makes so much more sense and what an arc we've had.

Wow, where Bucky's at versus where Sam's at. Oh, goodness. Like, I agree. And that was when they were sure what they were doing. And they were trying to, like, you know, navigate, throwing a lot of spaghetti at the wall. Yeah. All right, all right. So we would check the stream labs.

And so a stream labing, we will go, my friends, real quick. Let me just refresh the page. Got so many keyboards in front of me. How can I help? Toy, you're helping just by being toy. Oh, my God. We've got some good chunky ones. in the stream labs

when you fix the chat up here really quick doing the things and stuff give yourselves a round of applause for waking up on a Saturday being here instead of watching cartoons Dan V-900 thank you Dan you're always

very supportive and you're always out here we appreciate the love very very much though Thunderbolts was pretty good not great has quite a few issues All right, here we go. Here we go. We're going to do a debate.

You don't care about ghosts. Bucky is underutilized. Bob learns out of control the powers quickly, and it was too easy for Bucky and the crew to find Yelena and Bob at the end. Second part of the comment, two out of two. They didn't delve deeply into Walker. You need to see the show to fully understand him. Didn't feature the rest of the team enough compared to Yelena.

Bob was great. Don't love that they have the New Avengers. name, especially with the comic 7 to 7.5 out of 10 rating from Dan V 900 and a little addendum for Dan. This film makes me concerned for

Doom's Day. There will be a lot to juggle like Infinity War with the split teams. Sam trying to lead, establishing Doom, using the X-Men and hopefully doing the Reed and Doom relationship. A copyright Avengers deal is silly. I do like Dan V-900.

I do like Dan V-900. I do like Dan V-900. as well. But I do disagree with each and every one of his points. Well, let's go. Let's break him down. All right, let's see. I did care about Ghost. It's funny, because this was our first, and I appreciate the stream that very much. This was the first one we got, so you probably posted this before. I kept saying it, so vouching for my already having that opinion. But to me, Ghost is a character that doesn't really even have a solid origin in the comic

books, and not only did they make her cool, but they also gave her, like, heart. Like, she's been trapped in a suit that she's, like, forced to be in, and you get empathy for that. And she also was like a utilized team. I don't know. For me, I got a lot out of the ghost take, especially with how the comic has known. Bucky, it's not his movie. I think Bucky was an excellent, like,

side mission to Yelena's movie. I think everyone wants Bucky to be Captain America, and he keeps being like, I shouldn't be. These are why they did the whole show about it. This, to me, was another example of U.S. agent and Bucky being like, look, we're trying to do our own thing. We're trying to, like, work our ways our can. Like, he's a congressman.

He's doing his own thing. I personally really enjoyed that side mission that then collided. It was too easy for Bucking the crew to find Yelena and Bob at the end. I thought that at the end, they had all been together right before, like, at the end. Oh, you mean like coming into the nightmare sequence? Well, they saw that as soon as, you know, Yelena walked in, then she was there. So I feel like they just walked in. And then there was probably only one house of, like, madness that he was.

Because he kept mentioning, like, this is the best room in the house. So it seemed very localized. They probably had their own independent thing, like her Russian world. And then once they got through that one level of the game, they're at the house. So to me, it made sense that they would have came together and found her. I didn't mind it. I would have loved another 20 minutes, like, you know, Bucky's Sequence and a Red Guardian's and all these things. But, like, I didn't feel like that was going to happen at the cost of the film's pacing.

So it didn't bother me. Next one. Okay. Okay. Do you have any thoughts on those? Yeah, I mean, like, I don't want to just talk. I'm kind of in between you guys, honestly, because, you know, yeah, like, I, again, liked

what we got here, and I thought the way they streamlined and paste it worked. However, I would have liked more of certain things to, again, push this into, like, freaking great movie territory. Because, like, I didn't have a problem with how they all converge and

find Yelina and Bob in the mind palace, but, you know, I certainly would have taken more cutting around to, like, how they're all finally getting to the same point together. Like, this feels like a movie, that may have had more arms and appendages and was like as many movies are

condensed a little bit and I'm sure at the stage Marvel is in right now they probably didn't feel that comfortable taking a risk on a movie like this and making it two hours 20. Yeah, that's my concern is I feel like they wanted this to play a lot. People don't think about the actual theater budget.

Like when you play at a theater and the movie's over two hours, it changes how many times you can play it. So like you're going to want that if the movie does well to play it five times a day in a 10 hour window plus cleaning so 12 hour window but like those sort of things I think are a factor and I think that people are intimidated by long run times I don't look at a runtime and go ooh but I know a lot of people do like people announce runtime so to me

that's probably a factor I again would have liked to have seen it but I didn't think about it in the movie which is a good sign for me yeah I would agree with that it's it's you know like the ghost thing is something I thought about a bit during the movie and I like Ant Man of the Wasp and I like ghost in that movie so I already already have a positive association, so it's easier for me to be like, cool, I already know I can fill in the blanks of what a moment for her might be, you know, if transported into the void, would have liked to have seen that, though, and would have liked maybe a little bit more. Like, I thought they made her really cool, and I liked her performance. It felt like

part of the ensemble, but I could have used maybe a little bit more just of a personal look at the character in the text of the movie. But I'm not, like, all that upset it didn't happen because I enjoyed a bunch of other stuff that they did. But what like that, Bucky, I thought was utilized, I think, in the right amount for my taste because he makes sense to be present, but not the focus.

And he is kind of, like of all of them in the position to kind of step up and mentor these guys because he's been here and back and there and back again. So I thought his sort of a vuncular quality to the movie and his, you know, I don't know, he's like a steady presence

in the midst of all these other messy people. So I thought he was utilized kind of to the right degree. And then Bob learning how to control the powers, I'm a little torn by. Like, I feel like the idea that, to me, him learning to control the powers is just learning to keep the void at bay

because, you know, obviously the void can seem like it's fully. I feel like that's confidence. Like she was giving him confidence and then it harnessed it. Yeah, and there is a certain amount of that, you know, it's powers in mumbo-jumbo. so there was a lot of, like, make focus face

and you can kind of do the thing. So, I'll say. I'll say. I think 10 to 15 minutes would have made it an excellent movie. I agree with that. I agree. We're not disagreeing. And I agree. Dan Vee gave it a seven to seven and a half. I think I give it, like, an eight and a half. Like, I'm not far above where you're at. I just think some of the issues you have,

I just wanted to, I mean, answer your question. Yeah, like, I would, I'm in the seven and a half to eight range partly because I'm like, I liked, it's that case of it. I liked everything pretty much that we got and I can see a couple places where I think it could have benefited from more and that's like kind of all of it. There's nothing really

I disliked about it. I think the... Oh, sorry. No, and we're on to the next one. Yeah, I was going to say I think the amount they delved into Walker was perfect. Like he was a full on bad guy in Falcon Winter Soldier and then they humanized him and I felt fully empathetic for him. I don't think

they could have really done a lot more timewise with him because I thought what Wyatt brought to him was enough and great. I got that understanding that I wanted. And then Yelaine is the lead of the film, so I didn't feel like they were lacking in the rest. And the New Avengers, especially with the comic, this is the MCU.

Like, I never personally want to go like, well, that's the comic way, because there are so many ingredients that led to Brian Michael Bendis' New Avengers that were 70, 60 years of comics. This is the MCU, which is a cinematic universe, which is going to have a different thing. The New Avengers, to me, is, you know,

Contessa using branding to save her own butt. And of course, you'd say the new shiny toy, like New Avengers is why I like it over Dark Avengers, because they are thematically the Dark Avengers and more thematically close to the Dark Avengers comic. But if you're branding something and you're taking that as like, I'm unimpeachable now, you'd call it the New Avengers, like New and Improved, the better. So I think New Avengers absolutely works cinematically, and it's not the comic roster. It's the New Avengers.

I think it works pretty well just because, again, they go directly to acknowledging like, yes, but also no one's going to just accept this at face value and not, you know, caught. You know, I feel like there will be certainly similar debates amongst fans as are presented in the credits medley. Blessings upon the coitus. I've been, I've been sitting on my nose, right?

It's out. It's like, it is. It's been a cold. It was good, though. Yeah, thank you. It's overcast today. It was drizzling. It's like brisling. It's like, three years ago,

it was an infinity war, and it's usually hot by the time of Ender's season rolls around. That's right. 13 years ago was the first Avengers. I was dressed like Hawkeye right now. That's a wee lad. Next live stream.

We've got to get that outfit back out again. Somebody in the chat, nerds engaged, I pretty, this is a great summation. It's like, I want more backstory, but the pacing was actually good, so I'm conflicted. That's how I feel. I absolutely feel that. Because going back to Dan V, like, I would, I could have, to some degree, it's weird. I don't have the experience of watching this without the shows. And so while part of me feels like a lot of stuff would.

still work. I do have that association with John Walker being as well fleshed out as I think he was in Falcon and Winter Soldier. However, like I love that, it's a harsh scene, but like I liked getting that glimpse into his home life and what he is actively

trying to mask with his demeanor when he's in the suit when he's with the team. And so, yeah, like I feel like we're going to say that a lot. If the movie could have had latitude to be even longer, I would have loved even more Wyatt Russell and John Walker, I think this is a

situation where ultimately being conscientious, I think it's good to leave us wanting more than jamming a bunch of stuff in it, into it at this I don't know, I don't think it would have suffered honestly, like the rest of the movie, this cut of the movie is good enough than I feel like, you know, I feel like we could have done it. But yeah,

and I'll always take more John Walker, Wyatt Russell, no matter how you know, problematic he is to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and I loved his talk Oh, Shield. That was very fun. And the last bit was, this film makes me stern for Doomsday. There'll be lots to juggle. Oh, it is, that's been a problem.

I've been worried about that. I agree with. Sam trying to lean up establishing Doom using the X-Men, hopefully doing the Read and Doom relationship. I would almost guarantee they will not be able to do the Read and Doom relationship justice. Like, I don't think they can do that in a movie that's introducing Doom and explaining why it's Downey and all the other stuff, especially with the FF.

I'm worried about that. as well. And the X-Men I'm excited about, but I definitely don't think there'll be time for all these things. So I'm with you on this section, but I don't think that's Thunderbolt's fault. That's Doomsday's fault. And also, Copyright Avengers deal, I thought was a great concept. I was cool with that because the whole idea is that it's a government brand now. Yeah. So to me, that worked out. I think that's, yeah, that's a fun little piece of, like, in universe, inside baseball. And even in the, in Falcon and Winter Soldier, like, they talk about that stuff a little bit, like branding and, you know, getting paid.

Red Guardian coming out in the NASCAR jacket. But, yeah, Dan Vida, I agree with a lot of this last one. He's only Wheaties books. So good, that postcard was so old. And his many, many facial hairs. He's got a mustache in the one scene. And then he cuts it 14 months later. He's got a goatee.

I think they shot that, like, because that's how he was at the red carpet. Like, he had the mustache at the carpet. So I feel like they just shot that, like the Schwarma scene. Sure, sure, sure. Jaden, do you think the scene? And thank you for contributing to the stream labs. Very much appreciated. Do you think the scene between Bob and Yelena when the room is thrown around?

and a curtain around their necks is hinting that maybe young Bob tried to commit sewer slide after his parents treating him that way. I implied that because he's like, you know, the pain isn't real here. It felt like a known, lived in experience. So that was my take. And also, like, his whole character, it felt like that as a very, it felt like that something he would do. So, yeah, that, that to me felt like a nod at that. Absolutely. Yeah.

And, I mean, I like that they were able to, I like when they put stuff. like that in the movie that you can sort of chew on, extrapolate, put your own... Yeah, like instead of the plot mechanic you have to fill in yourself, a theme that you can yeah, bounce off the rest of the movie and consider for yourself. And I think

that's one of the reasons I'm really excited to go back is to see what subconscious stuff they put into that whole realm beyond what we know directly from the text of the characters. Dan V-900 is back. Dan V. MVP of the stream, L.A.B.

We are losers and lost something. Guardians of the Galaxy 1-esque line. It's not the caliber of the Guardians of the Galaxy films, the Suicide Squad, and of course the Magnificent 7, the Wild Bunch, etc. I do buy Yelena leading the team more than Sam right now.

Love the credits. Super fun. I see why Yulanda at your 7.7.5. There's some positivity. Yeah, I'm into it. Yeah, I mean, I put Guardians 1 in 3 over this, personally. But it's right behind like for me this is those movies just edged out by being like

proportioned in a way that doesn't feel like it's left anything out yeah and they're impossible like how the first one came out of nowhere and I'm like I care about a tree and a raccoon now you say it and you're like well obviously it's a great movie but like then it wasn't anyone can be a character yeah and now I'm like well and then three like broke me that's the only Marvel movie I've ever

cried in it was it really got me that movie has like stayed with me yeah in a way that transcends the considerations otherwise of any sort of specific specific frantile. Like, it's a stand-alone thing as much as it is a part of a trilogy, as much as it is part of a 36-logy. Yeah. Yeah. The longest-running mythology in film. Damn, they're the Simpsons of film. They are. Let's go. Let's go.

Sammy Boy! Hey, guys. Thank you. Hey, to you. Love to the movie. I'm just wondering, well, Century being the Hulk and Thor in one and having Adam Warlock and Ms. Marvel, Thor, Hulk, etc., are hero teams getting too overpowered or are the upcoming villains just that powerful that it is needed? Well, Secret Wars is probably going to end this all. So I think this is like that sequel problem right. Like you have to be stronger in power scaling

power scaling. It's a comic problem. It's a sequel problem. When those combine into a 36aG, you've got to solve it. So I do think that Secret Wars might clean slate this and then bring us X-Men in a new world and keep cherry-picked the right things. But I definitely we have to be aware of how overly power

a lot of characters are gang what unlikely team do you hope joins the anchorman fight that is going to be adventures dooms day who do you want to show up out of nowhere with a few dudes behind him let us know sammy boy's got a follow-up is it just the mccu or are the comics always based around u.s.a 90% of the new york i think new york is the u.s a city i feel like if galagda's and interdimensional things are going on. I would like to see the world's heroes show up and not a future movie where they claim to be a hero for a while. I feel like New York

is such an anchor point to America, but also where Marvel was... Marvel, when some of the greatest stuff was being written, was in New York, and the writers and artists were more centrally located there because now you can do everything remote, and most artists and writers don't live in the same city, they don't live in America, but then it was like, you know,

printing. It was a different thing. So New York was more of a character. The end of Daredevil, the issue that's loosely based off of was a commentary on like a really crime-ridden New York from the writer's perspective that lived there. So I think New York has just been an anchor point for the MCU for a reason because the comics are largely... Aliens hate New York. They do. It's so big and shiny. All aliens hate New York. But they did do way more places in Infinity War and Endgame and I feel like people don't

give that credit. The different teams were off-planet. they were in other cities. Adrian Voltron was in South Africa. Like they do other cities, but the Avengers are in New York and a lot of crime happens in New York because the comics do. And I don't mind the heroes

not being full-on heroes because I don't think... I think in comic books you can believe in altruism. I don't think in our reality people being blindly a hero is believable. I think that's why Superman is interesting because he is the exception to the rule.

I think that's why Cap is interesting because he's the exception. but I think any more than a Captain America or a Superman, you start to get to the point where it's like, I don't think people are that good. And when it's an actor playing them, it's less plausible than Iability because, like, the world isn't that good.

Like, we're not that good. Like, people suck. So you have to have characters that are relatable if you're going to see an actor and go, like, oh, I connect with that. Like, the average human being is not going to be as good as the worst hero, because that's people. That is people.

Magazine. That's my take. That's a good take. Connectivity. Because you have to understand them. and I don't understand blind altruism as much as I'd like to. I understand characters

that have been through. Yeah, you understand the search for altruism and the frigging the inner turmoil. The physical, sisy and task that that is.

Because everyone's gone through trauma and turmoil, not everyone's gone through like, I'm great, look at all the great I've always done. Look at me being great. I can't even understand

not being great. Everything bounces off of me, including any and all mental emotional anguish. Sure, don't feel that anguish. Never conflicted about anything. I'm doing fine.

So that's why I think. think the heroes are more anti-heroes in a modern world. That makes a lot of sense. The struggle to maintain your goodness when it seems like there's no point. It's hopeless. You'll never save everybody. The systems are broken, yada, yada, yada. And when these characters were written, it was a simpler time

of what the books were meant for. And now those books aren't meant for that anymore. They're meant for more. Yeah, because I mean, as much as people love to leave the real world out of stuff, keep your politics or whatever out of my stories, they're always reacting even just subconsciously, often consciously, to the time that the people who write them are living in.

So, yeah, that is our, like, our time now is, yeah, very far away from the olden days of, like, yeah, you know, swoop in and save this cat from a tree and go stop a bank robber. Like crime and, you know, misbehavior has become so many, so much more multiform and hard to pin down in the modern age. I mean, you even just mentioned the tree. Like, that's the number one thing people are complaining about with Superman. Like now the world is so broken, people are upset when Superman saves a cat. Now I'm like, oh God, please, just let him save a cat from retreat. Just give me one. That's what's so

crazy is like now that's a negative. We've broken so far. I've seen some interesting calls in the chat, Bucky and Ilon Blosh talking back and forth about like heel turns because this is a movie is sort of about face turns. Who would you guys want to see do a heel turn in the

MCU get somebody off the straight and narrow and on to the dark side? I think that would be an interesting prospect to entertain. I mean, it's definitely an option in Dune's Day and Secret Wars as the villains get more and more powerful. I want to hate all of our favorite characters by the end of this is my goal. Okay, let's see.

Where do we go? I think we did the gun ones, so we're a little up from there. Okay, cool. We're back in super chat mode, gang. This has been a very fun chat so far, so thank you guys for just being here and for keeping our Convo going. Also, Reject Nation, you know, Bucky, our esteemed moderator, mentioned earlier, he does moderating for a lot of places, and I

do internet for a lot of places. Reject Nation is far and away. One of the only live chats I would want to read. You guys are amazing. I really appreciate you guys overall being awesome. There's like two exceptions and book you get rid of them. But yeah, you guys are fantastic. All right.

That's right. Destined, I believe, was the last one, right? Destined and then we move on to Alejandro Tuzon. Yeah, if we have not gone to Alejandro. Right. Alejandro, don't call my name. do you think we will see the void century in doomsday or secret words yes okay uh in void form yeah yeah yeah or i guess as you said earlier you can't kind of have one without

exactly i think we will and i think it's going to be like a uh a nuke like you you you don't want to use it and then it's like we have no other choice and i think that's going to be an interesting conversation fascinating you know i mean it is interesting because yeah hearing stuff like that and there's been much debate about the russo brothers coming back and yada yada But given, you know, what they're best known for in the MCU, I'm like, well, if we get that desperate, I guess they are definitely poised to deliver us the tangibility of those kinds of stakes, you know, and I am, this is going to be fascinating. Regardless, like, it's good. Like, as much as the MCU's in a weird position right now, uh, the lead into Doomsday has me quite intrigued, has my brain buzzing, has me very, very curious. And, and, yeah, like, I hope we, I don't know, like, I really liked all of the aesthetic stuff that they chose around. around void and Sentry generally and, again, his performance. So I hope and am excited to see a big role for Century in that movie, which has, what, 80, 100 characters.

80,000 characters. RJ Robert Jr., thank you for joining in the Super Chats with the next couple Avengers movies, potentially featuring the Young Avengers. Y'all should totally check out. Next Avengers, Heroes of Tomorrow. Coy, what is that? I actually haven't read that since 08. Because I remember that title vaguely,

but it's been, I mean, I was in college, so it's been a while. Coy just graduated. I did recently. I just, I'm a fresh-faced 25-year-old. Yes, you are. You're looking hot. 25 feels achy. Feels great.

Let me do a stretch real quick. It's my first year, my knees hurt when it rains. Oh, yeah. It just happened. So, like, now I'm like, oh, I'm so close to death. It's like I'm very aware of it. I feel like an altered thing sometimes because I had a back surgery a number of years ago. And now, like, that place where my spinal disc is like, I'll get, yeah, I'll whacked out when the weather changes.

Like, what's going on? My actual, my, like, palpable fear of mortality is what's helped me stuff, like, Twitter and stuff, though. Because I'm like, oh, I'm, like, going to die soon. Why would I spend time here? I don't have the brain power to devote to this when I could be devoting it to. Yeah, but these 10 minutes are like, 10 minutes I don't get back. I'm going to die. This is my life force I'm donating to this right now.

It's been really helpful. Like I think, you know, when you're a kid, I think the concept of mortality is so interestingly negative. And then as you get older, you're like, but I have the stakes of living. And it's been really, every time my knees hurt, I think of life. Dude, life is a hurt knee. Life is a hurt knee. Life is a hurt knee.

Here we are. Here we are. Do your knees pop in the morning? Comment below. Let us know. So should we read Next Avengers again, Here is of Tomorrow? remember. No arm Sally is my favorite person. No arms. Sally

He said, wait, what, Coy is 25? I think in your early 30s. A great, now I feel old. I appreciate that praise. No, we're being sarcastic. No, we're being 100% truthful. I am 25. I was born in the year 2000. That boy is my son. Yes. Confirmed. Happy Kinsenera, Koi. Thanks, man. I feel good

about it. You're killing the game as a 15-year-old boy. I'm getting younger by the moment. That's right. I don't, I unfortunately, the point is bringing up is that I read it in college. I don't remember it. I do remember liking it, but it's been quite some time. All right. Well, give it another chance, Corey. Give it another chance.

Shane Martin Photo, come take some picks of us. I loved it. I love you. But other than the big time jump at the end, I just don't feel like it covered much. The story was told over a two-day period, other than flashbacks. It felt rushed.

Okay, so loved, I assume, the movie. But other than big time jump at the end. So we're essentially talking about it feeling rushed that they should go to like the 14 months later Avengers Tower thing. Shane Martin,

if you're able to clarify in the chat, just because I want to make sure that we're kind of perceiving this right, you know, that it's not like the whole movie feeling rush, but more just the rush of like, oh, all of a sudden now we're in, you know, doom's day circumstances and the Fantastic Four are crushing through and, ah, you know, like I can imagine

being, I don't know, like we do live in an odd time post credit scenes and I liked this post credit scene I thought it was fun and it was also neat to get that hype of like oh it's fantastic forecoming but it isn't exactly

to me like a post credit scene that's like mind blowing or like a big surprise quite I didn't think it was a surprise but I felt it was really impactful. This is one of my favorite post credit scenes because it felt like it was confident in what it was actually showing not like

we've got this guy and I I feel like there was a long time where it was like, Hey, I'm Harry Siles! And I was like, Mike! So, Tim like Nelson, we'll be back again at some point once he's out of the raft.

The guy from Ted Lasso's here. We didn't even catch his name. But he's here with hair at his chest. Hercules? Like, I had that, no, no. So this one felt confident. It felt like it was, and I like that it's like, oh, it doesn't need to be a surprise.

It just needs to be like what's coming and be excited. That's what they used to feel like. So to me, I loved it. That's fair. All right, heck yeah. You're improving my feelings about it. Not that I had, now that I was like negative on it, but yeah, like it's... Yeah, my take.

Because we live, yeah, again, we live in a phase now where clearly the art of the post-credit scene, something that Marvel didn't create, but has certainly pioneered for the modern age. There was a period of time where it was like, man, they're like, really, this is like part of the event. And because they have become requisite and because these recent couple of phases have been more up and down, I feel like their grasp on, like, nail in that post-credit scene has been a little intermittent. I agree. But I did like the scene generally, and I liked, I did like getting a glimpse of them a little down the line and seeing like, oh, this is still not going great.

Yeah, no, we're still a mess. We got the suits. Yeah. As an epilogue, I thought it complimented things while also, obviously, setting up the fantastic forward. And visually, it was so interesting to see that team as directed by the Rousseau's. Like, to see how Jake Schreier directed them, like, muddy and some dude color. and the Rousseau's in Avengers Tower is like,

beam of light behind Wyatt Russell and this angle, like those extreme angles give it that like Avengers, so that was cool. I love the Avengers Tower feels so big and cavernous and empty. You know, like it does feel like we're just all alone in this huge building. Why are we running out of space? This place is so

big. Yeah. Dan V is back in the super chats. Sam can't afford alone, but can get the copyright. you know I feel like maybe you know

they probably gave him a runaround you know they probably like approved that for bucky or for who for Valentina like right away yeah and they probably gave Sam

the runaround because that's how shit works out here he couldn't get that loan when other you know folks were getting the loan so why would he pulled some government clout

he's like you know what I just saved you guys you got it on camera help me this copyright government filed the suit for Avengers the name you know well how much does a

does a copyright cause you know that's a good question I've never a copywritten. I like it. I want a whole Marvel one shot about Sam dealing with the copyright. When I was dealing with copyright stuff, I'd written a script that got optioned,

and I was so broke. Thank you. We actually made, like, we read locations and cast and everything, and then I'll get up to the part. But I was so broke that I did the old school ghetto copyright of mailing it to myself to have the stamp to show the date of the script written. So I've never a copywritten.

just mailed stuff to me. Hey, poor man's copyright absolutely works. Two bucks. So maybe that's what Sam did. Sam copies like Avengers with a photo of himself. It's literally here's the scene. It's Sam, he's at the post office, pulls out an envelope, considers

it for a moment, discards, gets a different envelope, writes down an address, we do like a slow push in as he's writing, and we cut to a close up shot of the corner of the envelope, and then we cut up to slicks a stamp

cut back to the envelope he places his own face on a stamp onto the envelope then you know we cut back to the wide he signs something and then back to a super close on the envelope as the paper goes in and it says Avengers name copyright and then

that's yeah it's just like a little silent movie about him trying to get that taking care I like the self stamp that's strong I like that that's good that's what I can contribute but yes I do these are the things about the universe I find very fun and charming.

And that honestly, to bounce off this in a real way, because I think I slightly misprocessed it at the outset. But I literally like that about Falcon and the Winter Soldier, that they at least bothered to be like, do you get paid? Are you on a pension? Do they have like a stipend for you? Or do you just need to be out here with your own second job?

Yeah, they talk about that in the comics a lot too because Spider-Man is so broke. So he's a team member. He's like, I don't have money. I love that, though. There's a great frame where there's like a nine-panel grid. It's a multiple-mannel grid, And it's Tony and Cap recruiting Avengers,

and it's a new Avengers thing. And it's them, like, how each of them got people. And one is, like, a long speech, blah, blah, blah. And one is like, we have this. And then it's Spider-Man crying into Iron Man. And it just says, we have money. And Spider-Ring is, like, oh, thank God. And it's like, it's stuck with me for years.

Oh, yeah, more clerical stuff. Yeah. I think is very charming. It's very charming. It's really charming. But yes, good point, Dan Vee. Good point. Spidey Sensei, nice name, like that a lot.

Spidey Sensei's an OG, love this person. Cheers for chopping in. Coy, what are the odds we get a real taskmaster in the MCU now that Olga Curlienko is out? Post Secret Wars, 90%. I think you're going to get all the characters and they're like original. The ones that didn't work, I think we're going to get quickly. Just get Olga back and never acknowledge it.

Never. No, I think they're going to go like, and all the photo reflexes, like the, you know, the memory reflexes where, like, he can see a move and then master it, like, all that stuff, I think it's going to come into play. So I think likely. I think it's character. I think we get characters we haven't had, like Omega Red and stuff, and then characters that people didn't like the take on in the new universe. Well, it's funny because, like, the further we get into the road toward Fantastic Four and Dooms Day and all that stuff, it does to me, and you can let me know if I'm miss feeling this. but, like, it is becoming clearer how, like, oh, yes, I see this, you know, big incursion event of some kind of this big, you know, massive crossover or whatever. I can easily see how, yeah, we're going to take you from this universe, put you in here, and then we're going to close off some of the walls, and then we're going to kind of reset the timeline, and then we're going to have, okay, we can redo these guys, and we can keep the guys that work.

And, I don't know, just like the formation of that feels like it's becoming clearer for this phase because the multiverse saga has opened this weird conundrum, but also opportunity to, yeah, bring variants in, but then also pair it down. I feel like phase four feels like it's ending with this. Yeah. Like, it feels like phase four and five is one giant, hundred hour thing. Yeah. But this actually does feel like it's getting cohesive again, which is all people have been asking for.

uh which is why you know the people that have been negative about this movie it's like this is i thought what everyone wanted so it's been it's been really nice for me to just be like i cleanly like this because this is what i know i've wanted yeah well yeah and i mean you know it's it's got enough of that winter soldier vibe that people always hold up is one of the very best but it also you know has some of that mindbendie not timey whimy but sort of yeah uh parallel dimensional thing happening that uh you know is also kind of earmark of the current phase as well what you got uh heavy von putis which is a funny name you asked about the chris clement stuff by doomsday we did an entire episode of gregg and coy real rejects r e a l our podcast dropped on friday yesterday

dropped yesterday morning um we did an hour on it so if you'd like to see it long form john's on the ones and twos you hear him he is over there making it magic yeah my pipes without us uh we wouldn't be able to do the vocals without him you wouldn't see or hear us so please check it out we do a deep dive on that it's a very fun episode if I do say so myself and anybody who's joined in on those Real Rejects podcast thank you because those are a highlight of the week I love being at the space and I love you know getting to kind of watch you guys rap and then you know putting some pepper on top of it I do this for those things like I do I love reactions I love live streams I love those things

but, like, talking philosophy about art and, like, the emotional impact of art is why I love this. Usually it's with interviews. Like, you guys are so kind about me doing interviews. I did Thunderbolts for The Hollywood Reporter, by the way. I did 19 interviews in an hour and 10 minutes, which is a personal record.

Damn. And they, you know, the way interviews work is you want to post the ones that are going to be like, so, like, some of them didn't get posted. Like Sarah Haley Finn, I interviewed, and I don't think it's up. But, like, things like that are why I love the movie industry. but what's really cool about the me, Greg, John Hang

is it's like, there's no pressure of like red carpet and like studio. It's all the things I want to think and say and externalize and did you see who liked our sinners conversation? Wait. Oh, I feel like I can almost

sense it in my mind, but just Spike Lee. That's right. You mentioned something on Spike Lee, which blew my mind. Spike Lee comments it on our Instagram. Spike Lee. Like, which is like what? So I think it's really cool to go to the Instagram. Yeah, dude, it's a special moment.

So I think it's really cool to just be honest and open about art. And like this kind of setting, this live stream is probably my second favorite thing. The only reason that would put that above that is like the editing allows for people to have retention longer and stuff. And so I really love that Greg and I gets to a pod and that John gets to make it pretty and also give us like the guy on the chair insights and things. But anyone that's been checking those out, I really, really, really appreciate it. And John and I haven't gotten to do one of these in like forever. So hopefully this actual thing you're watching right now

does well so John and I can do more of these because these have been fun always. Super fun. Yeah, and like, you know, I mean I look forward to this a lot. Yeah, this is very and obviously stoked by your guys lovely input and whatnot. But yeah, it's been a very cool variety of things and it's nice to have this, you know, just as

this still operating wing of the channel. Because yeah, to be able to be on and to, you know, there's yeah, a different distribution of time, obviously we have to maintain some greater level of efficiency here. But yeah, we can wax philosophical or personal or whatever. And yeah, like, among

the roles I, among the hats I get to wear on this channel, being like random voice number three on the pod is like a real joy, honestly. And hopefully, I mean, this means it's summer. We're back to live stream. So hopefully, you know, as the big movies come out, I have to cover a lot

of them for other channels. So, you know, this channel being reaction-based, I don't always get to react to the stuff that you know, I had to see in theaters for other work. So this gives us a cool opportunity to, you know, cake and eat it too and be with you guys for, you know, the big movies that I catch in theaters. So maybe like Jurassic and I assume I'll be here for Superman.

And then Fantastic Four will obviously be. So July will be huge for these live trips, like every week. Coy isn't going to say shit about Superman. Nah. Coy has no thoughts. I have no interest. I have to find Spike Lee later. But that's so freaking cool.

That is like. He said speak to truth with a bunch of like. And, like, I was like, all the people in the comments that were negative were completely erased with one. Speak de truth. Oh. Spike Lee. Dude, I took a screenshot because, like, it's a life moment. Like, it's such a.

I adore this. As a huge Spike Lee van, the fact that he even knows my face or my voice. And then, like, I got to come. What the hell? We don't do this for that. Oh, sorry. It's tell the truth. Tell the truth.

Ten, uh, thumbs up, uh, flex prayer hands. So freaking cool. Oh, oh my God. Oh. You got to do the right thing. I ain't Spike Lee. Again, it's not for the connects and it's not for like, notice me,

Senpai. But when a Senpai does come out and notice you, it does, it does feel extraordinary. For me, it's when I've admired someone's work and they show admiration for mine. Like, when there's any reciprocity, how do you pronounce that word?

Reciprocity. When there's any reciprocity, it feels nice. Hey. All righty. Jesus is back. Risen on the third day. Happy Easter, by the way, a couple weeks ago. Century will be such a liability like Bucky was,

but one million times a million, and the Avengers will not allow the new Avengers to have a relationship with Bob. Spicy. There is the froe habitual, and there is the frow of the mountains blue. The froy at his summit. Cooslight,

in view a fraud, celebrate in a fashion responsible, you have to have the age legal for consuming of alcohol. do we think that that's going to is he going to get censured no I think he's going to be the Hulk I think he's going to be like a entity of liability that they're going to need at some point so yeah I think it's going to be fun I think the relationship with Bob is going to be the interesting part because he is so likable so I think he's going to be like a liability like Bruce Banner but if he was less standoff so they'll have Bob about to be a personality and then on occasion they will be like

yo bro we got to pull the pin and just let you yeah throw him out of a plane so to speak Oh, boy. I'm very fascinated to see how that personifies, and you'll have to give me some good void slash century comic wrecks so I can truly grasp the, again, the equal opposite. That's such a fascinating. Yeah. The Paul Jenkins, Jay Lee run.

I also like the John Media Jr. Illustrated run that came out a little bit later. Those are probably my favorite two. I'd stick with those. Hell yeah. All right. Just a heads-up, gang. We're going to close off the Super Chat submissions in a little bit. We're going to read everybody,

but to make sure that we're not here for like 10 hours of the day, because there are shoots that have to go on after this. I'm going to close those off in a couple of minutes. I'll give you another warning before we do, but, you know, if you've got a burning question, you know, try to get that into the next five or so. All righty, Ryan

Anderson, I want every comment to end with spicy, by the way. Yeah, solid. Caliente. Ryan Anderson, thank you for joining. I like your little photography anime avatar. In the music credits, it says the fantasy four theme. I believe that would be the

Fantastic Four theme. It does say that in the credits. Fantastic Four! I do, like, as much as they are just saying the name, I do really like that choir. I got to see that performed live at the Hollywood Bowl with Michael Giochino. It is sore. It does feel like epic and soaring. Are they going to?

And they played it. And I was just like, ah, sit-a-ma. It is unfortunate. They had to credit it. And I also, they had to credit it. So it's like, if you're eagle-eyed, you're going to notice. And we all definitely did. So I'm like, I guess I know what's coming.

Yeah, totally. But yeah, it's in there. I want Michael Giacino to do some more directing. Yes, same. The MCU, Robert Soriano. Thank you for jumping in. The Soup's century replaces Molecule Man in Secret Wars. Coy, is this plausible?

You know, he could. I think Molecule Man's a little bit more malevolent, though. The void would have to be completely taken over a bob for that type of thing to happen. Molecule Man is like a bad man. Is he, like, atomic? Dude, his powers are literally to a molecular level. Like, he can manipulate things to a molecular. Like, he is all-powerful to the point of, like, I would say omnipotence and also omnipresence.

Like, he's an entity of near-enless ability. And I want Ben Foster to play him. Because then Foster brings, like, power and malice and all he does. He's an imposing guy. Yeah, I'm going to go Ben Foster for Molecuman. I'm going to go Mark Hamel for the Beyonder. Those are my. Mark Hamill, Jerry Curlwig, white suit.

Let's go, you know. These are my Dream Secret Wars cast. We were talking about those Doomsday rumors, and one of my favorite, because oftentimes, while you guys are talking, I'm, like, sourcing inserts and stuff, and looking at some of those old comic book covers and the different iterations of Nomad Captain America

with his, like, flowing hair. I mean, post-credited see. He looks like a docking music video guy. I was going to say, I'm like, that's a nomad. That right there. And, like, I just love the nods. Yeah, to that aesthetic is beautiful. And I

would love to see behind the scenes of Sebastian Stan put on that nomad wig and be like, ah. Because you know that dude had a fun time putting it on the first time. Well, it's funny because, like, we live in a time where obviously people much malign the Joel Schumacher Batman movies for being too wacky

and crazy and stuff. But, like, part of me sees some of these old comic book covers or or bits of art, and I'm like, oh, man, bring a little bit of that heavy metal and then a little bit of that quirky fantasy back. I think Golden Age Superman is what we're getting with James Gunn. Like, I think we're getting, I mean, cryptos like the trailer.

Like, I think that we've lived the 90s, and I honestly think we're entering a silver age of comic book movies. We've been in an age, and we're about to enter a new age that's going to change the tone. I was thinking about that the other day. And you know the ages and what marks them better, but it does feel to me like, oh, I get it. You know, like we had maybe some kind of,

golden age with the first three phases of Marvel and then those are transitions and now yeah we're sort of figuring out what the next age is and soon in age a new you know whatever precious metal age arises out of that so many now uh yeah uh molecule man though that's just sounds like a cool character to get to meet someday i hope they do adapt who would you cast comment gang who would you cast his molecule man fan boy loco thank you for joining in the chat pitch trapped on a remote island as a survival movie. All of them coming from rival companies in a bid for Avengers

Tower and who they have to survive against should have been Ross as the Red Hulk. What say you? That's a lot more suicide squady to me. But I do like that we are getting so many rival companies

and all the corporate side. Like Roxon is really big in the comics. Ox Corp sure does sound a lot like Oz Corp. Uh-oh, I didn't even think about it, but it sure does. Perhaps. Norman Oxbourne.

I think that's coming. So, you know, these elements are going to be a factor. Fighting Ross's Red Hulk is definitely a fun movie. I would watch the hell of this, but it's definitely more in the suicide squad vain than a Thunderbolt, but I dig this. Absolutely. All right. Heck yeah, heck yeah. I mean, too, I guess somewhere down the line, I would hope that a story like that could be

possible if there was a stronger arm of just like, I guess their what ifs. They made what ifs, not an anthology animated series, but just, you know, that kind of, yeah, they made a lane for movies to exist. They made a maximum security green arrow pitch that was supposed to come out with, like, him

getting out of prison, and then there was also like that Batman Ben Affleck movie that was supposed to be, like, so they've been trying, and I want it. Yeah, man, Ben Affleck's been out here, too, talking about writing and directing stuff, and the more I hear about his approach to the craft, the more I'm like, Damn, what could have been cool to see?

Yeah. What could have been been? I'm going to give you, ooh. It's very different. I want to see it. Account 1 is so serious. Account 2 is a buddy cop. Tara and I reacted the first one.

It had a friggin blast. The accountant's one of my favorite thrillers, and I feel like nobody saw it. And then when they announced Ziegle, I was like, for whom but me? And then, like, it's a joy. When we saw that, I was, like, wicked surprise. I was like, oh, damn, this is so cool. It's an actor's equity, artist equity project. It's been Affleck and Matt Damon's company

teaming up with Amazon and MGM and I feel like it was like a labor of love movie that like everyone that worked on the first one people would come up to them and talk about it but I didn't realize they would ever put money up for it and I think it's doing well enough that they're getting a third. Oh, and John like Bernthal coming back

I got to interview him in Vegas and we talked about that movie and like the joy of coming back with the world having discovered it and like getting to play a character that is that tone yeah those interviews are on my Instagram Yeah, and, you know, positive masculinity between brothers. That meant the world to actually get to talk to him about that, because that's affected.

You've got a mini, real one. Yeah, I got to talk real ones at John Berndtall. Hell yeah. I love that, dude. All right, gang, you got a minute or two. We're going to close off the super chat so we can get through the rest of these in a timely fashion. But before that, ceramic coconut, my favorite decorative accoutrement. Hey, guys, what's a void moon night MCU story idea?

All right. So you've got Bob at a bar at night, and he is mine in his own business, not being bothered by anyone. And he then gets in a taxi. And when he gets in the taxi, the guy looks back at him. And like you as the audience is like, wait, I know that cabby. That right there is a moon night. And they are driving through and a high pressure situation starts boiling up. We get into a falling down situation. Michael Douglas, high traffic, high intensity, high heat. And then just then just then, boom a villain lands right in front of the car it sets off century because it literally like impacts the car but we then realize that obviously our cabby is also moon night uh their other sides take over it's it's uh mark specter trying to take control it's avoid trying to take control as they're being pummeled by whatever villain and then they reluctantly team up after fighting a little bit because that's what you got to do and uh take on whatever villain that was beautiful that's pretty proud i think that's actually pretty sick i kind of want to see that I was like, well, what would I do?

And as I was talking, I was like, what's my next sentence going to be? I was right in the real time. Hope you like that. Dude, call friggin, call, uh... Yo, K-Figie. Call, uh, Oscar Isaac, call, call my man, uh, uh, uh, F Murray Abraham. Oh, oh, into it. That's a great Marvel Cinematic Universe Bowl.

In fact, I'm not even going to try because that was, uh, something I would like to see. What is the live shad? Do you guys like my, my scurried pitch? I don't just have Void and Moon Knight playing chess. against each other. I like it. I like it. We've never seen that

with a glass. Chess. They can't be metal. Hey, you know, they've probably got some pretty sweet, high-tech special glass friggin.

Anyway, dead. Can we go live on this one? Make sure we keep on the... Oh, yeah. Sorry, I wanted to highlight Lord Insidious calling out Rob Benedict of supernatural fame

for Molecule Man. I don't... You know the character. I know Rob Benedict. And there it is. So I can't tell you if he would be good. casting, but I can't tell you it would be very

fun casting. There's a running joke on capes and Cals that Do I is calling out to here. Paul Giamati is Batman. Winston casts Paul Giamati as so many people. And so Christian did, I'm the Batman! So yeah, shout to, it's a Christian. Holdovers,

but it's Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson. Alexander Payne's Batman. Into it. Woodwatch. A lot of wine discussions at Wayne Manor. We're doing it. Side Wains. Uh, Deadpool, little 239. Thanks for pulling it up.

Thanks for pulling up in the super chats. Hey, guys, what do you guys think Fisk was doing during all that happened in Thunderbolts? Because that was in the city of New York. I had thought Fisk had bought the Avener's Tower until they announced it was, uh, you know, Valentina, Kentessa, something to fontaine. Um, I always try to get all the names and I never do. Um, but, uh, I,

I feel like he was running the little, like, side mission of Hell's Kitchen, where he's, like, doing the red hook stuff. But I do feel like the company elements building up. I hope, I know the licensing stuff. Rumor is tricky with Sony. But if that can be solved, it would be really cool to see Fiscapsons say in these corporate elements. So, yeah, time will tell. And Oz Corp, Ox Corp.

I do think that's it. So I do think the Spider-Man stuff's coming in. Pass the OxCorp is what I say. And I won't pass the Ox. Sweet Chin Music. and I won't pass the odds. Oh, what hip-hops am I missing the reference to here?

There's a Kendrick there. My hat is like a shark's fin. Kendrick Lamar. Seeing him next month. You're seeing him? Kendrick? Yeah, dude. I'm very excited. All right. All right, Kung Fu Koi. Excited to see Kung Fu Canyon in an LA venue. Oh, my goodness.

We got a heck of a lot of streamlubs as well. Allegra. I missed Allegra in her five minutes. Yeah, Koi. You're not a real fan. You're a fake fan. All right. Let's get on this road on the set of them. I'm using

all my words. Did you turn off the super chats? I turned them off, Coy. Did you accept the consequences of the action? I accepted the consequences. They prompted to be eight times and I was like, just do it. Poor this drink. All right. Where were we? Where did we leave off? Concerned for

Dundee. We did Dan V. Let's see. I think this is it. All right. Jaden Smith. Thank you for your lovely stream lab contribution. Do you think the scene between Bob and Elena, when the room is thrown around and a curtain around there, oh, no, we did, we did, we did. The sewer slide. We did

the sewer slide. Okay. There we get, Hulk being one, Warlock and Animal with Hulk. We did this one as well. All right, cool. We're doing better than I thought. We did that, New York. 90% because of New York. And we used a lot of powers. Okay, so this is one from Sammy Boy. I don't

think we have done yet. Sorry, we missed it earlier. Is it just me or is in the MCU. A lot of powers based on mutation of a serum. Is it also a big thing in the comics? I would like to have Agent Colson of Fury-like character step

up and become the non-active leader. An old man cap as the new Fury? There are a lot of serums in the comics. That was definitely a piece of that 40s, 50s, 60s comic lore. A lot of science gone wrong. Yeah, and Spider-Man does a lot too, but

there's a lot of science gone wrong in Marvel. DC is a lot more kind of a DC has serums and stuff too but there's a lot more of like this is the character that we're gonna like like Stan Lee talked a lot about Thor's hammer being why he could fly versus Superman could fly

Stan didn't talk about the sun and all those elements but he always wanted there to be a physical thing or like a scientific based thing so that's why I see a lot of serums it's like we can't figure it up serum so that is why I always thought there was a lot of science-based stuff because you're trying to give it plausible deniability you're trying to give it a

reason and then that is a big thing in the comics and I would like to have Agent Colson of Fury I think Agent Colson is dead I don't consider Agents of Shield Cannon I know John does Hold on hold on hold on This is the judgment angle Koi This is the judgment angle and this is now the shame

Is there anything to avenge if he's Out there running around shame this man I feel like they made it pretty clear There's some great arcs on agents of shield Coy And so Old Man Cap as the new Nick Fury could totally work. I doubt Chris Evans

would want that though. I feel like Chris Evans is going to come back for maybe the big pop of Doomsday and Secret Wars, but then I think that whole I personally think that continuity is going to get cherry picked what they keep, but a lot of it's going to get wiped, so I don't think there'd be an opportunity for the old man cap to get to do a lot.

I just want actors in the MCU to start showing up his characters from outside of the MCU. So have him show up as like Lucas Lee, have him show up as like the guy from Sunshine. It's actually hilarious. Yeah, you know. exactly see you fit right in have robert downy show up as charlie chaplin like why not i and there's so many actors referenced in other movies that there's so much crossover of where it's like wait but you're like so like biancai being referenced as biance in i think shung chi and then like t i'm always like do both if you want to give me variance where t i is both tip harris and the character he is if he can be the rubber man man and the robber that knows and man so funny is that who he is he is he's Rubber Bandman.

Yeah, yeah. Is that who, what his name is? Oh, not the character he plays. Rubber Band Man is one of his aliases. Like Lil Dickie,

aka soft handshake. Dude, Lil Dickie was at the Pedder Boltz premiere and I have no problem talking to people. Like, I'm very like... You were sourstruck

for Lil Dickie? I ran away. Oh, no. I was talking to Benny Blanco about clothing. And Lil Dickie came over and I was like, nope.

I like couldn't hang. Betty Blanco. And then I got stars about a little In a way, I could not, I could not be around L.D. I couldn't do it. It's okay. You don't want to spoil the illusion.

I also was just like, I don't know, I don't know what I could say except for like, you're one of the greatest freestyle is about time. Like, I just, all I had was like, tink. And I just geeked that. And I was like, seeing him in the wild felt like seeing like a unicorn. I was like, well, it was. Yeah, I got fully starstruck by little dinky. Shouts out to Dave.

All right. Shouts out to Dave. I was actively talking to cast members of Marvel without issue. Just like, and it was really cool because I was at this thing and I didn't want to, like, take photos and commodify the experience. I was really important to me that I just, like, wanted to talk to people and, like, have real moments. And then little dicky appears, and I was like, but can't do that. And she's like, oh, man. Saved that money, LD.

I wish I could have, I wish I could have. The speed at which I love to be held this. Yeah, just like, nope. Oh, man. Benny's at the light, though, great fashion. I love his wardrobe. We talked a lot about, like, he does a lot of matching sets with his wardrobe, and I'm always really jealous. And he apparently makes a lot of his clothes.

I was like, where can I find that? Like, blah, blah, blah. And then we talked outfits. He compliment my outfit. I got to compliment my fiancee. She dressed me. Great moment with Benny Blanco. L.B. Sprintz.

Well, you know, he's got to get into some kind of real little Dickie-centric situation where, like, he's the point. Where I can, like, honor it. Yeah, exactly. Actually, no, it would be the opposite. That would have been the moment. Because he's casually there with, like, Avengers. And I'm like, boop. Yeah, that was.

It was so shame. You got to have one that got away, right? always keep me humble Sammy boy thank you for being so supportive today Sammy boy you're a Sammy man to me now did Thunderbolts think

yes we are killing people but we are doing good work and not realize Fontaine was evil or did they know but not know that they got turned on they are mad about it confused me why they were mad as they were killing all of Ox earlier

okay did Thunderbol think yes we are killing feel we're doing good work and not realize Fontaine was evil. I think that they were contracted and they're just, at that point they didn't think very highly of themselves. So they just like they considered themselves just mercenaries. Like they're just people doing a job. They are killers and they were killing. So I don't think they considered her evil or good.

They were hired. You know, just following orders mentality. I think they are mad at being turned on and that's why they were hunting her. And then, yeah, I think it was betraying them they were mad at, not that they had to kill people because that's what they were doing professionally. Yeah, and these guys don't seem to have as many qualms about doing that, especially if they're in a life and death situation where their lives are on the line. Another reason Sam Wilson's mad that they're considered Avengers. Yeah, yeah, and I think that

lends itself nicely to the themes and to the fact that they are essentially like the Dark Avengers, though there is some type of redemptive quality by the end, and they are at least given this moment to be public-facing heroes. Yeah, like, I think the asterisk, as much as it is like about the title is also about all of it. You know, it's about everything they've done is asterisked, yeah. It's just such a... We haven't touched on the asterisk. I just want to give credit to Marvel.

You're 17 years into this run. That might be the boldest marketing thing you've done. It might be the boldest marketing thing I've ever seen. Avengers is a billion-dollar brand. And you went, no, we're going to trust this movie. Like, that is... I respect the hell out of Kevin Faggy being like, Thunderbolt's Asterix. Like, that is...

And the fact that it didn't leak, a lot of people assumed Dark Avengers, the fact that it was New Avengers, then that logo popped up, I like, whoop. Yeah. Yeah. What a pop. And so commending the marketing team. So do you think that'll stick? New Avengers? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think going forward. I think that'll be a thing. And I also, I

talked to the writer on the red carpet, or all three of the writers I talked to on the red carpet, but after the after party, I talked to Eric, and he said that it was Kevin Feigy that really fought for that asterix and everything else to stay. So it's something he really loved. And it was really just... Yeah, I think it's so special. I just want to give it love. It makes for a nice

cherry moment on top of the rest of the movie and as a piece of marketing yeah it's sort of like what is this what is this this is just like a stylistic choice but if you know enough about how you know literary writing works you know how the instruments of

language work this means that there's something else a placeholder we're going to correct it or there's a yeah there's a footnote or something coming here loved it and yeah it makes like it without having to do anything really you just plop that there and then people get to ruminating. And the legs, now people are talking

about it now that it's been out. Now we're talking about it. Like, it's such good marketing, but it's trust. It's faith in the film. Is New Avengers like is New a modifier, or is that part of the proper name? There are, like there is Dark Avengers. Oh, yeah. No, so it's, quote, New Avengers.

There's two teams. There's not Avengers, this is New Avengers. Yeah. Like, when Bendis was writing Avengers and New Avengers, they were separate teams. Cool. Gotcha. Sweet. Not bad. Okay, well, and that and with that knowledge, in mind, I can see it, yeah, being more of a solid, sticking

thing. Yeah. Anonymous. Whoever you are, thank you for being here. This movie felt like Guardians won so much to me in too many ways to list here. It's really got me hype for phase six. If these guys are the new Avengers, who is left

for Sam Wilson's team considering the chairs? Ah, now we get to talk about this. I don't feel like we've listed. Lamb Wilson's. We got Sam, we got Falcon. For sure. I would say we'll probably bring in vision, white vision. That leaves.

I mean, I think Scarlow would just come back, but I don't think she'd be part of the team. Who does that leave? That's three. That's not an Avengers team. Wait, wait, wait, wait, walk me back. Who you got? I got a Falcon, obviously, Cap, and, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I added a white vision. Ant man. Antman? Antman could be there. He's met Sam. Yeah. See, they're bros. That's the cameo and Ant Man movie.

That was the first fight. Swarm in. There we go. That was the hazing to join the Avengers. Chung Chi. Chongchi sounds like a good. Would Chongchi be team new? He feels, yeah, I feel like he'd be on Sam's side.

I feel like he's like a do the right thing. Like, Wong. Wong? I feel like Captain Marvel won't want to be on a team, but I see you. mad. I feel like Cape Bishop's Young Avengers. Cape Bishop is going to be with Miss Marvel and with all the

youths. Yeah. What's his name Bradley? Little Bradley man. I said Bradley? No, his like nephew or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Is he also called Isaiah? I can't remember. And his name is Patriot. We meet him for like 10 seconds. Yeah. I think sure he's

also going to be Black Panther so that one works. I like Black Panther in that team. Dude, get Isaiah Bradley on the event on the main line Avengers. Oh, the OG. Yeah. Get old man Isaiah Bradley is the Young Avengers. The Young at Heart Avengers.

That poor man has been wronged every time we meet him. I'm sure he's going to want to sign up for the team. Avengers. I think that's a solid, I think that's a solid roster. Okay, all right, all right. I like that. And that's chair-based. Letitia Wright was in the chairs.

Simu was in the chairs. Spider-Man's not going to be in Doomsday, I don't think. And also, I want that. boy to not Avenger. Nobody knows who he is. That would he be an Avenger? He's an anonymous boy. Okay, well, Channing Tatum has to be an Avenger. Dude, did you see the picture of the Thunderbolts

screening with all of them? No. Dude, all... Is there a Tatum? Channing, Downey, Simu, Chris Hemsworth, they all watched Thunderbolts together. There's like a group photo of everybody and I was so happy. F-U-N.

All right. Mike Hawk. Hi, Jasmine, you can't text me yet. I'm still working. Very popular guy in school, Mike Hawke. Oh, shout's out to Jasmine out there. Russian. MVP of life. Yeah.

Every time we're out doing a thing and Jasmine's there, I am 15 to 20 percent more at ease and less freaked. I'm 15 to 20 percent more capable because I'm just like, oh, that'll get taken care of because she's good at stuff. I'm not good at stuff. I just talk. You know, you're good at talking. That's the stuff. That's true. Michael Tony Hawk, do you think the void will be used to show us R.DJ's Doom's backstory in Doom's Day?

I think that'd be an interesting method. I do think we get to see a little bit of Doom and Fantastic Four. I don't know how much. I do think the Doom that looks like Downey is from their multiverse, and that would explain why, you know, when he ends up in ours, it looks like a Downey. So I think we'll see some. Just I don't know if we'll get enough. But I think that's a cool idea to Century Em up. Same Zies.

Anonymous is back. I assume, or maybe you're a different anonymous, but thank you either way. One of the most beautiful moments in the MCU is when Yelena sits on the floor with Bob and puts her hand on him while his dad is wailing on him and his mother. It's humans saving gods,

reminding us it's Yelena's humanity and their unity is what makes them strong. I think that is a beautiful point. No notice. Yeah, unity is such a beautiful message in this film. I also want to give credit to the tone of this film. If you look at the actual structure of the movie, It, on paper, is so easily messed up.

It is literally a movie about saving each other with the power of friendship, which is the easiest thing to go awry and be cheesy. But instead, it's got just so much heart that it doesn't feel contrived. So that moment, amongst many others, allow for that, like, hug to be resonant as opposed to, like, what's happening. Yeah, absolutely. Like, it's literally breaking through so much chaos and anguish with, like, oh, no, no, no. Like, for this lost character to be like, no, I can see now where my perspective and experience. experience can actually, you know, be an asset. Yeah.

Not just my fists and my training. Hell yeah. Anonymous again, again. Hot take. Love a hot take. Hot and ready. I liked the way they offed Taskmaster. It felt like they learned from Deadpool to not be so afraid to address a mistake by being irreverent thoughts. I've heard some people in the chat also say that just their callousness at her dispatch goes to further kind of enforce there at the...

that point in the story, anti-hero slash villaininess. Yeah, I think it shows that they're willing to do anything, and then I like the humanity of, like, I know she was your job, but that's still a person. Like, that allows for Yulana to feel more human. Yeah. But I also think that, you know, there was a lot of

a lot of kickback for Taskmaster. So if there was any character that you didn't want to keep going with, you know, that kind of felt like intentional. Yeah, absolutely. Rocky, 67. How about a She-Hulk heel turn appearance in Doomsday? Because the Kevin robot said it's the only way she could be in it.

That's funny. Justice for She-Hulk, first and foremost, I would love to see She-Hulk factor in somehow. I feel like She-Hulk and Deadpool from my limited vantage point are in an odd spot because plopping them into a particularly momentous kind of movie would open up a whole other can of universe worms

of like, does this matter to you? Can you just step outside all of this? Can Galactus or Dr. Doom follow you outside the panel and do the thing? Can you interact with Disney Plus here? Yeah, I don't know how much. I mean, it doesn't seem like we'll be getting a lot of She elk or Deadpool, but we will see because I like both characters. Absolutely.

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a bit of a discount as well for showing your love and support. I'm like Control Z that. A, There we go. There we go. The sausage is real, and that's how it's made. All right, we're going to try and run through... I feel like I'll give us to 1.30, and we can probably get the rest of these in here. Let's get back. And if, you know, you want to, you know, tack one on at the end or something like that,

we aren't accepting super chats anymore right now, but we are accepting stickers. So if you want to send us a delightful sticker, you can do that, and we will be happy because stickers are for cool kids who do good jobs. Gold Star. All right, we did Deadpool with the Fisk. All righty. Kyle Wilson.

Thanks for chiming in, Kyle. Kyle. Everyone must do that to you. Cal. This, in my opinion, is the first Marvel movie since Endgame that isn't, quote,

back to formula and represents how the studio wants to grow like the theme of the film. That does tie into what I was saying with, I don't think this is my favorite movie since Endgame, but this is the first to give me the most hope.

Like, Guardians 3 is my favorite since end game, but that is obviously more of an ending than a beginning. Yeah. Spider-Man No Way Home is a multiversal ending of a trilogy, but it doesn't really tie into the greater MCU, if anything, it gives Spider-Man a chance to be a removed from it. So that kind of pulls that way. Shang-chi, while a great launching point for an individual character,

did feel like it was going to be a Shang-chi too before King Dynasty, but then when that King Dynasty went away, all of that went away. So I do feel like this is the most hope I've had, and it definitely feels very intentional and confident, so I agree. It's the first time in a while where I felt like they,

while still utilizing flavors that are part of their palette and that come with these characters, yeah, that they have presented something that is, yeah, not a direct continuation of one specific flavor, or a retread of one specific flavor, or, like you said,

I think that's a really solid point. It's like no way home to me and even gardening. Guardians 3 are kind of contained partly by just due to the bounds of their story details, but also because, yeah, you have these, you know, Spider-Man No Way Home is such an event unto itself that that kind of... Deadpool and Wolverine, too. And Deadpool and Wolverine is sort of an event unto itself that is especially removed

from the greater circumstances, and it's kind of partially about that. And Guardians 3, obviously, has so much James Gunn style, and, yeah, is the capping off of at least that story for now. And those are probably my highlights leading to this and thus, like, this is the most that it feels in the stream. Yeah, and this one feels, yeah, like, it's part of the continuum and, like, it has

more to do and more to unfold into, and, like, I'm really curious for the second viewing to see how the direction strikes me from, like, a visual flavor. Like, I thought it was well-paced and well-directed. It doesn't have

quite as much of, like, a distinct visual like that's Matt Schreier or whatever his name Jake Schreier's style whereas I see James Gunn I'm like that's James Gunn's style and that's actually I don't think a bad

thing here like I don't this is the only thing I've watched from Jake Schreier that I'm 100% aware is Jake Schreer so like I don't know what his earmarks are and I but I feel like not having necessarily a great grasp on the specific specificity of that is kind of good for what this movie is

and where it is in this greater, it's weird. As much as I and many people want each Marvel movie to be, like, crazy distinct and have, you know, and really embrace the breadth of genres, this, A, does go for a genre that is a bit more, you know, pensive of tone and expression. And, yeah, like with the pathos and the character threads and stuff like that, it did feel like something fresh

and interesting amid all this. you just remind me when you're talking about specificity of vision I also want to give credit to Jake Schreier's main thing he's known for is paper tones and that's a great movie but I feel like so many people that get so mad on the internet about like

oh they got the director of paper tote perhaps let this be an example of you know watching the movie before judging it because I think he did an incredible job I think his music video style led to the visual aesthetic and I think his paper towns led to the human element

that enhanced this film you never know what a director is going to bring to a project so I think a lot of people like to read an article and be like I hate it and then it's like well this was great so well and direction is also so many things and I think a lot of times it's easiest

to go pacing and visual style but that's also the director of photography yeah and it's like being the director of the whole movie is also cultivating the vibes between your ensemble and you know choosing working with people you've worked in the past what that shorthand's like yeah and marrying tones together

yeah there's just so much more to it than simply visual language or anything like that. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I do agree, though, that this doesn't feel like, it feels like it's trying to reach beyond the formula a bit while, you know, returning to form to some degree. Momo Akib, thank you for jumping in. Love your name.

Would you guys do a collab with new Rookstars? I mean, we, Greg and I have, like, talked with them on camera before and stuff. you've done some. I do a lot of break room stuff over there. But it's been a little while just because like scheduling, it's been insane because I got two DC shows as well as all my other stuff. But we love them. So

perhaps. It's possible. They're lovely folk. They lovely folk and maybe we'll do a big breakdown where we do all the Easter eggs, all 10,000 of them from Duke's Day. It's definitely going to happen. You heard it here. All the contracts

are inked. And you You can hold it against all of us if it doesn't come to fruition. Richie, thank you for the super sticker. Love that enthusiastic little pair guy. His stickers are so charming. Delightful. All righty. Ryan Botzelli, thanks for being so generous today.

Real Rejects is not only entertaining content, but therapeutic in its own right. Oh, that's lovely to hear. Every one of you is talented and fantastic. Thank you for being a distraction when most needed. I need it in the best possible. way. I want to give flowers to two people.

One of them. Together is Greg. Go get his neck. Greg Flowers. John is one of the most empathetic, open, vulnerable, and willing to discuss emotions people I've ever met.

And that is a huge part of why I think you get the therapeutic element from this here channel. This gentleman right here. And the other flowers I want to give is Sir Greg has made it a very clear goal to be human and to

add that into our work. I feel like YouTube is full of people sharing their love of movies and I love that. I think that's so special that the art we've all chosen to celebrate is film and TV and I think that what we can add to something that is a bit more commonplace

is as open as we can be and as human as we can be. So therapeutic is I think our goal. I think trying to make sure people feel seen and connected. I think the name real rejects has never felt more true than right now with this channel and where it is. So reading that makes me happy because it's been a

really, it's been a challenge for me because I am someone who had been an actor boy, and then I had been a hosty boy, and those two things to me were very, like acting was exposing a version of you that someone had written and you put your work

into, and they're still allowed a little barrier. And then hosting, I always wanted to be as authentic to myself as I could, but it's still presentational. I found here like blending those two things and being me by presenting me, but also being emotionally available like an actor. So it's been really cool

to put all my different skills in one basket and call it real rejects. So this makes me happy. I appreciate it. That was beautiful. And I mean, thank you. That means a lot. And I mean you, like, Koi, like I remember early on, like, man, like when we were meeting and when we remet it like Shmowdown and stuff

and like we were becoming just like, you know, chums it was a long time of just like man if we could find a perfect way to like collab and I don't know just like I don't know

harness your nest and you know I don't know because yeah like I feel like you are equally you're one of the most willing and excited

to dive deep into things of anybody I know and you're also somebody who you know you know how the sausage is made but you're also really good at you know you have a comprehensive knowledge

you know how things like the movies are made where the things come from and you're always trying to bring life into that and I feel like that's kind of a natural motivation that all of us in a different sense or way have kind of been able to share and tap into like the

group that is real rejects now has sort of distilled over time and sort of like slowly amassed and I feel like part of that is because we all share this you know enthusiasm for film and film studies but also are willing to yeah like

really dive into our perspectives in a genuine fashion about how these things make us feel or how we're feeling in the moment and yeah, like, especially in the past few weeks, I feel like I've been kind of like a more distant to a person than normal just because things are busy in there have been like, you know, life challenges to meet.

But like this even... I was so excited for this today. Even just being here, like, this is the most time I've spent with you in a minute. Yeah. And I felt really bad. I couldn't help you move your table the other day. I reached out like with like, right now! And yeah, and I was like, ah, I wanted to be there. Dude, we got so lucky.

We found my dream table on a whim. Like, a table I've dreamed of since I was a kid manifested, but then it was literally 300 pounds. It is a live edge red oak table that is seven feet long, three feet wide, and like nine inches thick of real wood. And I was like, I can't do that with my fiance. So I was like, there's so few people I want to. She's got this.

Yeah, like, but there's so few people I want to know where I live. Sure. So, like, I really was like, who do I want to reach out to? I am there. But I literally will carry your credenza up to stairs or whatever. It was a really fun moment to look at the shortlist of who I actually want to know where I live. You know, it was a nice moment of like who I care to have this be an option for them to just show up and knock. Oh, that makes me happen.

That was a moment. And you were on that very shortly. I only texted four people. When I, did anybody get you? Yeah, yeah. My buddy at Universal Chris, who's at a light. You met Chris. All right.

He's going to be at the vital party. Universal Chris. Yeah. But, but yeah. And I think that this. channels brought us together in a closer way. And I think that like when I meet Rejects fans, sorry, we're harping on this one. But when I meet Rejects fans, it's always a different energy of like a pleasant connection. And it's almost everywhere I go. I'll run into someone from Reject

Nation and they'll just come over and be like, hey, blank meant a lot to me or this meant a lot to me. And it means so much because us in this room are talking to a camera. And this feels crazy when you take a step out and look at it. So having the people in real life on your side tell us that they're there makes this feel less insane to me. A little bit. Because yeah, you really feel every time you turn the camera on the rest of everybody, you know, who's in the room with you, even though they're not in the room with you. And like, I'm happy to hear that it's both entertaining, but also a little real or a little therapeutic because, I mean, especially in recent times, but I think throughout we've wanted to bring just, I don't know, like film criticism is such

an established lane to exist in, but like you're always kind of, you're always kind of, you're gate like you can look at things in a vacuum as just pieces but also like the act I think what really separates when people talk about the like all critics versus audiences just like I think there's a greater factoring in of like personal experience and feelings when you're dealing with like an audience members just like genuine reaction versus like oh an academic critic reaction I think we've tried to bridge that gap yeah I agree and like movies are emotional experiences and some of my favorite movie experiences have been here you know yeah like when we sat down watch the escape from New York boy like that was one of the or demolition man like yeah those are

some of the most we got to get some more action like yeah we got to find some more hits yeah yeah and then too you know the more serious stuff and yeah thank you guys for being open and receptive to at least this attempt to be thoughtful and and genuine while also not forcing and we get a decent amount of crap but the channel's growing because of it like it's hard to read the comments where people are like oh greg's crying face like oh coy's talking about this thing about him but like then that's the tiniest little bit. And the rest is this channel growing and you guys like this.

So I appreciate it. Thank you so much. That really means a lot, Ryan. And we've got Diego Guevara. Coy, thank you, by the way, for chiming in. Wasn't a saint of my devotion right, but he's grown on me so a lot.

So I will pay him anything to debate that doofus Tyrone Magnus. Coy would destroy him, please. This comment went on a... One two punch from the last one. This comment was a journey. He went on a quest. And it's so funny.

The last one was like, you guys are so therapeutic. This one's like, fight him. Let them fight. I do not know Tyrone Magnus. I don't know how to, like, the only way I'm, I hear about this man is when people are commenting that he hated something. And that's exhausting for me as someone that loves things. But the first five comments, five I read in the 20 comments I got first, like five of them on my Thunderbolt's review was like, yeah, but Tyrone hated it. I'm of the mind

that people should see stuff for themselves and if also you find someone that you align with, listen to them. Like if it's your hard-earned money you're worried about, if you don't have AMCA list or something, and you're debating seeing a movie, I would go with your gut about your trailer, about the ingredients of the film,

whether the art seems to speak to you. I wouldn't let someone else decide for you. But if I were to, I would always err on the side of, hey, if you decide not to see something, that's two hours or more of joy you're missing out on. And that's irreplaceable. So I wouldn't let other people inform you. So I don't know this dude.

He comes up far too often for my liking for someone I don't know that tends to seem to hate things. But that would be unfortunately tricky because debating someone that dislikes things, they're inherently going to have an asset of the people that love hating things. And that's a bigger community. Like there's a reason people find connection there because it's like Bob, right? Like there's a void that calls to people that spreads, that is darkness, that's easy to fall into. and I wouldn't want to give that any attention. So I appreciate the kind words.

I appreciate the fact that I have grown on you, unlike a dark void, I've gotten some light. And I really appreciate anyone following my page or my work here or any of the things because I know I'm counter-programming. I know a lot of people don't like that I like stuff generally loudly and much more than not, but I just don't think there's any reason to acknowledge

those people except for as a blanket. That's unfortunate. But thank you. very well-measured answer, Coy. I know it'll get clipped out in certain channels and edit it down. Yeah, I just want people to, and like all the power to do, like he's- Fight him, Coy. He's paying his bills.

Do the Henry Cavill-Armcock. Let's go. I just don't want his audience to not see stuff because of his choices in life, and it's sad that someone has chosen to be aggressively that voice, and I hope that he's more joyful than he seems. This should all be fun. It's art about comics.

Like, why are we not the stokedest? This should be at worst. this should be like, ah, this wasn't for me, or this was a bit of a bummer. There's no reason to be enraged about these things. I'm like, yeah, it's unfortunate they didn't make the thing I wanted them to make. Yeah.

Like, that's as low as it goes for me. You know what? I will say this. This is an unrelated thought, but somehow this got me thinking of it. The one thing I wish did happen is when Bob is, you know, wailing on void, when he's like punching his lights out,

I wanted him to scream in his face. I wanted him to literally scream into the void. I thought that would have been really funny. Yeah. And also very cathartic. Yeah. That's all. That's a good beat.

I respect that. I wanted a boiling over of the emotion there. Also, I saw somebody comment, and I want to get the exact comment because I think it's better than what the intended comment was. Eugene Johnson said Century would be Thor's ass. And I want that version. All right. I want him to be Thor's ass. He's Asgard's ass.

He just is. I mean, it's a golden hue, beautiful blues and yellows of Thor's. He is Asgard. Mr. Eli Mac, thank you for chiming in with the tagline of the movie and the importance of century. I'm shocked that I didn't put together that the asterisk wasn't for

the new Avengers. I think they had hid that. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people extrapolated that. You most certainly would have for a couple years. Yeah. But at the same time... I said Dark Avengers, so to be fair, I was only half right. There's enough, yeah, there's enough latitude in there and yeah, like,

the signs are all there, but I think it's like just enough that like it's yeah i feel like there's when you have a sweet spot where it's like the people who know can have the satisfaction of going i was right or pretty close and the rest of us can be like oh snap how cool you know and that's a good twist when it's like he was dead the whole time yeah you wanted to feel like it was right in front of you not like what that's just weird writing the asterisk was dead the whole time john tyson uh thank you for chiming in This is in my top 5 MCU because it's

theme. I strongly believe we shouldn't go through this life alone. Will this team become Dark Avengers later? I feel like the new Avengers moniker is for the sake of branding, which is what they lean into. I don't know if Dark Avengers would be something you'd want to sell. I think they're thematically already

are the Dark Avengers. But when you look at a comic book, what you're doing is differentiating the teams versus when you're looking at a movie, the way they're playing these characters is very sponsored and government-based and very much branding. So I don't think Dark Avengers will come to play in a brand, but I do think they're thematically that. And I love that

you love the theme so much. And I agree. No one should live life alone. I love. I love the message, too. Much agree. And yeah, Dark Avengers almost seems like something you would have to do, you would have to do, like, a lot more Avengers and then you could do like a side one. Right. That can be, yeah, a little bit more niche because it just has, Dark Avengers just sounds niche. And so don't feel like they'd like say it. Because then it'd be like, it's like when

we are. We are. Yeah, when characters are dark, they And Angie, they should be like, look how dark Avengers we all. We all bought eyeliner just for this, yeah. Richie, thank you for chiming in. I work as an environmental specialist doing the Lord's Work at a hospital, and I freaking love the Reject Nation, working hard, and MCU News. Super sexy for life on the hashtag. Thank you so much.

And, hey, you're out here doing very important work. Yeah, thank you. And, you know, a member of the Patreon, super sexy. We appreciate you very much. And, yeah, that's an incredible series of job things. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for taking your time out to, you know, entertain flights of fancy with us on a Saturday morning.

I hope you're having a relaxing start to your weekend. Myunk, Roy, thanks for chiming in. Do you think the Avengers Dooms Day production is a little rushed? Definitely talked a little bit about that on the Real Rejects podcast. This time, there are many characters, and only a year from now, we are getting with now. I was going to say seven years ago, Infinity War, six years ago, endgame

this year, Thunderbolts, next year, Doomsday? It's insane. Like, that's, like, it's been so long since an Avengers movie, and now this is an Avengers movie, but then next year, like, it's ambitious. Clearly, they've shot some, we saw some, but, uh, I don't know.

I know they do a lot of pre-production. I know they prep a lot, and I know they have to, but, um, I feel like Comic-Con was like a month ago. Like, it is insane. that, you know, that was July, which is almost a year ago. Two months from now. Ugh.

Just threw up a little. But, yeah, I think it's ambitious, and I hope it works out. I'm very cautiously optimistic because of the ingredients, but we'll see. Absolutely. I'm a little cautious optimism. I don't know. Every Marvel seems like it's high stakes now. And this one seems especially high stakes, but I was almost afraid to look at the tomatoes,

but even the tomatoes would be pretty kind to this movie. Yeah, 95. audience I think it was last I saw it was like 88 critics which I was like damn even to the capacity that I liked it I was expecting more like a 70 something from the critics if not want to be happy I think they do and the movie

is joyful in its melancholy it is it is yeah there is like a light in the darkness and I like the way they personify it like I liked the way the dark you know the MCU gets dogged a lot for not having enough light and color saturation and the whole like void thing just kind of made me

appreciate that when you are back in like Oh, there's a friggin' light in color here. Also, the texture of the film felt like a film. Like, there was a lot more in that grit than just, like, muted. Absolutely. Destined. Thank you. We are destined for greatness when you were in the chat.

There we go. Pulled it together. Yelena has the New Avengers. Thank you for spelling it properly. Kamala is assembling Young Avengers or, you know, Cape Bishop. Sam is building proper Avengers. The MCU's version of Civil War II,

is really going to be over copyright laws and I am here for it. Litigation. We know a very good lawyer. Oh my God. Matt Murdoch is going to be the beyonder. He's going to be litigating. She-Hawks litigating one side. Matt's litigating the other side. Everyone's in court. I want it

so bad. I was the person sitting here being like, make my daredevil an actual court procedural half the time. Give me the practice with Matt Murdoch, but I like Avengers in copyright court. Avengers Doomsday. Avengers Secret War. Avengers copyright claim coming

2028 Avengers arbitration I like it Call me up Marvel I got ideas Avengers 8 coming at you All right Thank you Destin

I'm looking for Is there a sequel to Civil War In the comics Is there like a second Civil War Two It was like only five or six years ago Captain Marvel's like a big part of it And it's yeah yeah it's good

Okay All right Sleven Calivra Slevin Levera. Cool name. Thanks for joining in. It's almost as good as Madam Webb, because Void really do

be connecting them all. They do. They really do. And we've all got one, and we all, you know... The web of darkness connects us. If only the last scene, they had impaled the void on, like, a big Pepsi sign, then the movie would be perfect. You know, I just feel like there wasn't enough

superpowers of crashing vehicles into others, which is the only power she seemed to have. All the team members of the Thunderbolts could easily crash a van into something. They are super soldiers able to drive. We did see a lot of vehicles. We did. We did.

They drove at least one vehicle. It's not as many as the DC animated movies always opening a vehicles. They're always in the streets. They're always driving fast. Next. Oh, God. Shea, thanks for jumping. In the songbird emblem in Mel's necklace.

Clock that tried to get her to talk about it in the red carpet. Actually, I tried to get her to not talk about it, but I tried to get a that would inform the next thing. Like, I don't like spoilers because I want to see the movie and I hadn't seen it yet. So I tried to get her to, like, hint enough that after I'd be like, oh, but she's very good at PR.

But, yeah, the necklace is very much mockingbird. Like, that's real. And she's a big member of the comic Thunderbolts. That, okay, because I like her a lot as a performer and from other stuff I've seen her in. That show she's on with Daniel Radcliffe is hilarious. Oh, and I should know the name of it. But that's fun to know, because I was like,

they've cast somebody who's, like, on the rise for this. She must be more than just Val's assistant. I asked her, which was more intimidating, working for a comic legend or in comic legend. And I enjoyed that cheeky turn of phrase. And she said, and she just worked with Will Ferrell. So I was saying, like, comic legend in Will Ferrell or in Comic Legend being the MCU.

And she gave me a really fun cheeky, like, you know, Will Ferrell's a man, but this is the Marvel universe. And it was like, she's a star. Like, you can tell this girl's going to go far. So I think they cast her. long term go watch miracle workers all right jeff carroll we got one of four oh goodness and then kevin me kevin meke not to overshadow though because we got four from jeff carroll an embarrassment of generosity all right jeff carroll we're going to do all four of yours in one big old

big mac one out of four nine out of ten a lot of uh flash a lot of ratios here we got that wasn't that good algebra. Okay, 9 out of 10 on Thunderball. 9 out of 10 is like 2.2, I think. Okay, sorry. So a quarter of 9 is roughly 2.2. A quarter of 9. Am I dividing 1 by 4 by 9 by 10?

Okay, so 9 out of 10 on the movie. The MC, only MCU film besides Infinity War end game I've seen twice just on opening weekend. Inside Out of the MCU. I've heard this set a timer too. Inside Out of the MCU might become overused, but Inside Out is in my top 10 of all time, so highest praise. I do have a big soft spot in my heart for that movie, and sadly

have not yet seen Inside Out, too, which I must do. Jeff Carroll 2 of 4. Tackling emptiness, self-loathing, et cetera, not only as themes, but as literal character embodiment is so unique. Pew and Pullman, unreal performances, truly. Pullman may be top 10 in the MCU. Two small

critiques. Alright, here we go. Here we go. It's time to throw every nice thing you've set out the window. Three out of four, we've known Bucky a long time, but I feel like They could have touched on his emotions more as well as ghosts. We've talked a bit about this in the stream so far. I agree more with Ghost and Buck, and I think you got what you needed from the both of them.

Personally. All right. MCU marketing, a repeated issue. I don't know why they, quote, gave up trying to conceal. I think it's just because they're having more need to really make sure people show up and show out. Yeah, I think it's a desperation of like, we got these characters. They're coming. Please watch Dooms Day.

Please be excited next year. people are just coming because we're Marvel anymore, you know. And so that's real. And then four out of four, Taskmaster's fate. Why do you think she was the choice to kill off? Or would y'all have done it differently? Those very small areas aside, absolutely loved it. It's special and will stick with me.

All right. From the top, I love how much you loved it. I agree that Pullman is exceptional. I believe that what we got out of Yelena is so great because of Florence Pugh. So I agree with all your stuff at the top. And yeah, I've heard the inside out thing. It's funny every time to me. I see some parallel.

Um, but I personally, I got a lot out of ghost and I think because we've had Bucky for so long, they didn't want to overshadow, um, what it is that Yelaine is doing by having it be a Bucky Barnes movie. Like I feel like we got enough of him without it being like two co-leads. You don't want this to be a two-hander like Deadpool Wolverine. You want it to be Yelena and the Thunderbolts. Um, so I feel like if you brought in a lot of people's favorite, you know, side character, like Bucky is a lot of people's favorite character, much less. I think it would have been too much. If you had more of him, I would have loved to see more of him and ghost in that last sequence. And we've talked about that a bit, like seeing that montage. But I think as far as what we got, I got enough. And then I do think the marketing is always going to be a thing because you do need to sell the movie to make enough to keep doing this giant, very expensive universe. So the chairs bug me because I think they're doing two rounds of announcements. I feel like they...

The second one will be an email. I mean, we just read it. I saw somebody meme, the back of the chair just says this could have been an email. Real. Very funny. But I think they can't really, they should have waited to have the Thunderbolts

be the second round of announcements, but I also feel like they wanted to show confidence in Thunderbolts and have their name awareness be higher. So I see why they did it, but I don't love it. Yeah, and I mean the Taskmaster thing

we've talked a lot about it. Like, it would have been cool for Taskmaster to be more of an actual character. Like, I'm a little torn on. Like, it feels a bit abrupt the way the movie handles that, but also, given what it's doing, it doesn't feel like completely unfair

to handle it that way. Yeah. And I think it's mostly just, like because of the, I guess because everyone is so kind of intent on like, this character got done kind of strangely, it doesn't really do anything to not do the character

slightly dirty. So like yeah, you know, I, I'm not like mad bothered by it, but it's something I definitely like noticed and was like huh, you know, and it is funny to me that is like the most obvious conclusion everyone has drawn is like, well, Tasmas are not making out of this movie.

Right. Because like, well, nothing, no. And I like that they at least Photoshop shopped or CG'd her into scenes, you know, for the trailers for the advertising, but yeah. But yeah. Well, well, well, uh, articulated. And I'm glad you loved it like we did. Oh my goodness. Kevin Meek,

one of our long time super sexy patrons. Uh, holy crap, man. Thank you for this very, very, very generous. I mean, everyone has been super generous today, but I mean, it's not easy to contribute in such quantity and, uh, it's in these times. A huge help. Thank you. Yeah, truly. Uh, appreciate the

that they didn't pull any punches with certain issues specifically Yelaina's alcohol abuse. They nailed what it's like to wake up and find yourself in that state and to move on from it. Thanks guys. You all have been killing it. I appreciate it so much and I agree with that. I think the way they handled that and

the way you see like Alexi's house, he's just like living like a hoarder and like John Walker's home life is so broken and sad. I'm doing it. I'm watching. What do you want? Like everything was so broken. And that's the thing is like even despite we've talked about like wanting more

or whatever of certain characters like what they got in there was pretty impactful like hit me for sure and I love the alcohol abuse scene of it feeling like a cycle like she was trapped in herself and like how broken that was even though it's a tiny moment like that really hit me the visual of it how hollow she seemed we talked a bit about

her like shutting off and accepting her fate that really hit every time and a few of them did that but like when Yelena they gave it that oneer and then I think it's like insane we got a Marvel movie that has a meth joke I know I was like... And two, twice.

Because he said the joke and I was like, I can't believe they got away with that throwaway joke. And then it doubled out and he screams it. Great delivery. And at first I was like, is meth chicken like a joke of a different ride? And then in that scene, he's like, I am on Matt.

Like, yes. I was so impressed. It was wild. And there's one other thing that alludes me now that they did. It's like a line of dialogue or like a throwaway where I was like, wow, that's not a Marvel. Yeah. There's some other thing they did that was akin to that.

But absolutely. think it's canon with, again, to pop a docket, I also liked that the last movie we just had featured a certain meth chicken purveyor as Sidewander who just fought Sam Wilson.

Oh, Jean Garlo. Oh, my God, get him on the Thunderbolt. Yeah. But seriously, thank you, Kevin. Thank you. And, yeah, the way they capture her alcohol abuse is not, like, and sometimes it is, like, debilitating. But, like, you know, that's kind of like just a rote, part

of her debt. She's a functioning alcoholic, you know. Yeah, like you said, they didn't shy from it. Celeste Marie, thank you for jumping into the chat. Ooh, you got like a nice, like, you know, lens flare in your profile pick here. Literally just got home from seeing it and

saw y'all were live. Thank you so much for hopping right in. Loved it. Wish we saw Buckees and Ghost and Red Guardian's rooms. Absolutely. Feels like a setup for multiple Avengers teams or for an extended Zach Snyder cut on Blu-ray. I would love to see more of those rooms. I agree. But yeah, Avengers teams,

plural, is very exciting again. Absolutely. And as we're scrolling past here, just Jeff Carroll, great point. I do love the literal character embodiment of the void that exists within us as a thing. That's a beautiful personification. Michael

W. W. W. for winner, because you're a winner today. Thank you for jumping in the chat. I saw this movie with my dad. I walked, this is a good dad movie for him. I saw this movie with my dad. I walked out and after we talked about our review, I finally told him, I've been

depressed. That's enough for me to know how good this movie was. That's a very beautiful moment, man. That's what you, you know, maybe it's not the main function of a movie like this, but like that's what the expression and the putting themes like that in the art

is for, and that's really beautiful. I love that. That's really something special. And that's what art should do to connect us and expose emotion. That's wonderful. Yeah, and that's like, yeah. Like, I hope that led to a good dialogue between you and to, you know, a greater closeness and vulnerability because it's hard to talk about. And I appreciate that here on this channel, you guys have been accepting and welcoming of, you know, when the art takes us to those places that, you know, are resonant. And as we've talked about a million times, it could be a comic book thing.

It could be some kind of grounded drama. You never know when you're going to get hit by something real. And I feel like there is definitely some real shit in this movie. So I'm glad you guys had a real bonding experience with it. that's that's really touching yeah Destined is back thank you so much my favorite thing was the counter what are these guys going to do against Century

by showing Century slash Void is a metaphor for depression you can't run from it or defeat it you just have to own it you know lock it in the basement and feed it a steak every day and keep going to maintain yeah that line was so good yeah yeah absolutely that's a great observation yeah I really liked that it felt like this all

encompassing, overpowering, like, can't even begin to handle it thing, and we all get smacked around my depression now and again, so I thought it was really beautiful. That metaphor was so all-encompassing, and it takes more than one person to defeat it, which I also, like, took the team, and then coming together. And now I'm thinking to myself, like, as cool as I get Sam Wilson

doing the whole, like, I'm going to talk down the Red Hulk, like, you know, they kind of did a better version of that of this movie, be like, you know what, we can't throw any weaponry or fists at this thing. We, I mean, he does kind of beat it up, but, like, you know, we have to kind of... Well, beating up is what I want it. We have to outwit it.

Yeah. We have to emotionally rise above this occasion. And, yeah, like, you can't run from it. You can't defeat it. And I do like that they acknowledge without lampshading the idea of, like, how hell are you guys going to do anything against this dude? Yeah. Like, all the things that people said when they picked the team also, I loved in those moments,

but also in the credits where it's like, what is this team going to do? I was like, they really, at least in the bounds of this movie, they earn that well. I'm like, oh, damn. These street level, for the most part, dude. By how this was occurred. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is so cool, which is very gratifying.

Celeste Marie, back again. Loved the mental health angle. I was curious how they'd win with no powers, and I love that it was just broken people helping each other through it. Oh, look, Celeste coming in and saying it better than us. Literally, absolutely. We agree. We agree. No notes.

A plus. Keanu-Chinell, how's it going? Good to see you again, my dear. Thank you for the sticker. I love this little heart corgi. It's a little corgi with a little tail wagon, peekabooing out from behind the heart. Hope you're doing well. I hope your heart is full today.

Breel Valentin, thank you for jumping in the chat. Just show in love with my first ever YouTube super chat. Thank you. There we go. Thank you so much. And, hey, it's an honor to be the channel. We're going to hang it on the wall and like Mr. Crabs. But, yeah, seriously, thank you for jumping in.

I hope you've been enjoying the stream. haven't gotten to do one in a while, and this has been absolutely a blast, even if we're both sleep deprived. You know it's good when you're not even concerned with that after a while. We'll deal with that next. And thank you. I hope we've been articulate. Celeste, thank you for being so supportive

today. They're now my favorite MCU team, and this is in my top five Marvel movies. Only gripe is like just wanted more. I agree. Like, okay, sorry, I'll stop commenting now. No, you're good. Comment as much as you like. This is one of those movies. I think that's a good place to be in. It's like,

when I saw the marvels I was like I like everything you tried to do here I wish you committed more to those things and then also there are a bunch of issues about like this paste weird there's so much whereas like most of my if there are complaints for me about Thunderbolt they all kind of come back to just like great

just give me more you know and but what you had as what you did present also looks pretty great and also used well-rounded so yeah like I'm really happy to see this entry some people's top five and the team you know really grabbing people's hearts because the more I have thought about it over the week like the more

excited I am to go back and review it so thanks for being so supportive and being a part of this chat today being a main character in the chat today let's see Stephen Hider my 15 year old daughter Sophie and I saw that are both last night great movie she immediately shipped

Yelena and Bob so for her is there any comic precedent Yelena and Bob don't interact very often Yelena is now very prevalent but had not been until more recently I think what Florence Pugh brought to the characters really elevated the character. There's a really fun run from 2022 for White Widow

that is what they call her in the comic that is very much the voice of Florence Pugh which is delightful. Century has not been as prevalent of late he popped back up a few years ago but no interaction there so that is an MCU centric shipping that I hope and I'm glad she enjoys. And thank you for a super. I ship them as well.

And there are a couple of people also talking about, I think I saw a comment in the live chat earlier about how like when she's like hugging him or something and then there's like a cut to John Walker looking jealous or something. I don't know. Either way, we've got to get more ships going in the MCU. We've had Circe and not Superman,

and that was, you know, that was fine. Also, this fair point dance DJ, you know, Red Hulk and Cap, Ross, they've obviously known each other and have that history. absolutely you know I feel like they could have maybe made more out of that yeah century got ripped in half by carnage in the comics Jesse he's saying Century is dead in the comics yeah

he got ripped in half and thrown into the sun if I remember correctly what a way to go yeah thanks for that though Stephen Hider and you know obviously hopefully maybe we can we can write a comic and set the present yeah just do a romance duck dude Howard the duck

you are great name emoji too yeah look at this guy look at that duck dude look at this little duckman There's a specific scene in the vault where Bob tells Yelena to leave him there and the concern realization she has on her face before convincing him to join just broke

me. A Marvel movie has never hit me that deeply. And that's one of the great things about this movie is like there are discussions via dialogue that are great. But sometimes it is literally like the cast just getting to shine with these little details of performance that speak volume. Yeah.

And that's, I mean, when Florence Pugh was saying it's more like an 824 film with the asterisk. That Obviously, it's still a Marvel movie, but speaking, anyone becomes, like, hyperbolic, it's like, oh, yeah, how's a $150 million movie, 824? But it's these small, intimate scenes of actors acting and the moments and the depth of the themes that I totally agree with her marketing idea behind it. And I felt those especially here.

Yeah, man, I'm, oh, the more we talk and the more we feel these, the more excited I am for another watch. Jonas Sorensen, thank you so much for joining in. I just wanted to say, I just found you guys. Oh, welcome. And you are awesome. I love listening to you and appreciate what you do. That is absolutely sweet,

and I really appreciate you just coming in and saying that. Whenever I stumble across people, I like, like, you know, the whole don't meet your heroes or, you know, these days I go by this. I'm like, if I'm so compelled to say thanks, I'll just try and say thanks. So, like, you know, whenever anybody expresses gratitude for what we get to do, it fills my heart up with joy.

So thank you so much, Jonah. And I hope you stick around. I hope you like what you see, from you in the future. Dead shot, crossover amalgamated universe. Hey, gents, actually, and thank you for chiming in here,

just finished watching Thunderbolts, and wow, was it a breath of fresh air? It doesn't feel like an MCU movie, and that's a good thing, and I agree, even though I feel like it's not incongruous with the MCU, the feeling of watching it

didn't fully feel like I was watching another Marvel movie, and I think that was very, very well-handled, very cool. To me, it felt like when Marvel was launching, where it was like Ironman and Guardians and Winter Soldier all felt like Marvel, but it didn't, there wasn't a tone that felt like this one uniform thing. This felt like that, where it's like, I'm very where I'm watching Marvel,

but it doesn't feel like it's like a blanket thing. So that was nice. And I agree. 100%. It's Chris, chicken. Chicken. Mike dropped. No notes. Leave your favorite kind of chicken. in chat all right thank you so much it's chris and i mean chickens better look out because chris got the wolf with the rose in its mouth in the little avatar here so uh saying don't leave your chickens unattended uh urgent elk thank you so much are y'all going to watch the second season of my adventures with superman all i got to say is after watching it i realize the suit is very similar to the new live

action uh no plans on the slate as of yet i if i'm totally honest and i don't know for certain I don't expect it to happen. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it. You know, I feel like there's more of an onus to just like, well, maybe I'll just keep it on the back burner. So there are no plans, but it could happen.

You never know, but don't get your hopes set on it. But that said, I adored our whole experience with the DC animated stuff, and that included. That is possible. Like, DC animated movies, maybe a couple as Superman ramps up, because, you know, the search optimization on

those will be a little higher just for the, behind the curtain stuff, but I don't, I love Jack Superman. I'd love to watch it. It's just, we don't know if that'll make sense here or not. Yeah. All right, gang, we are heading into the home stretch, but thank you so much for, you know, tuning in with us and stoking the fires of conversation. Like, there are a lot of spoiler reviews out there and to get to do it this way. This is kind of like how our panels go. If we ever do a panel, it's sort of like, yeah, we can spend some time talking at you, but like, let's just jump in and see what you guys want to talk about. And you guys are

always great at guiding the convo and coming up with some. interesting things to throw our way. Also, someone in the live chat mentioned it, and we always err into music. We didn't mention it. Sentry's reading Rick Rubin's book at the end. Oh, was he reading the Createt's book? Yeah.

Oh, that's funny. Which is a great book. I love Rick Rubin's book. Yeah. He's one of those guys who all just like, if I need to vibe and also be a little inspired, I'll just be like, oh, throw on some Rick Rubin interviews. Vib Daddy Rick, yeah.

And shouts out to Robert Rodriguez, doing the rounds of podcasts right now, and like that dude's insight and philosophy. philosophy on art, filmmaking, how to live the art life, as David Lynch would say, has been friggin fascinating. So, like, track down

one of those interviews and be delighted. I am just realizing that's what I should have talked to Dave Bird about. It was Rick Rubin's book at the end of the movie. I had my opportunity. Bro! Rick Rubin! Bro! Hindsight.

This is your villain origin story. Next time there's a Thunderbolts premiere and I see love that you all know what to say. you go. Well, there you go. You know what? You'll have him on. You'll have him on. That's a great question. You'll have him on. That's a great question. You'll take him comic book shopping. And then you'll hand him the Rick Rubin book.

It'll be like a century. Hamza Darby leading us into the home stretch. Do you think Yelana could or should be a lead in the MCU going forward? Yes. Florence Pue was incredible casting. I think I prefer Yelena to Natasha. I think not to slight Scarlet Johan is a performer. I think the stuff Yelena has been.

given to work with is maybe a bit on the whole richer and I think there's also kind of a paradox that happens where like because she started as a side character often support characters can have that latitude to be a little bit more nuanced or flawed or interesting

especially in like a tent pole franchise not to say that Natasha doesn't have any of that but I do get why people are like so jazzed about Yelena I feel like the Natasha role was written as a certain type of role

that they tried to fix like they you know introduce her in the least of the Iron Man films and they kind of had to navigate I think the best Natasha is in Winter Soldier and I think that the second best

is in Black Widow but that means that my favorite old of hers is in a movie that she's not leading and my second favorite is in movie after she dies I feel like there's a lot of variables that didn't allow for Natasha

to thrive and that's not her fault but I understand where you're coming from you ain't great 100% and, yeah, absolutely should be one of the leads. And as of this, I was like, well, that makes all the sense in the world that she would lead this movie and be part of a new Avenger team, you know. Jacks with my sense. Oh, Jacks.

Oh, buddy, that means a lot, man. I feel like, you know, every duo has its own lovely nuances, and, you know, I look forward to everyone in a different way, but, like, some of, again, some of my favorite times have been you and me, and I look back on them often. forward to the shoot, even though it's on a Saturday. We've got to look up, figure out what our team name is. That's true. We don't have

one yet. We're joy. Yeah. We are joy. Joy. I like that. But thank you so much. It's always, you know, we don't compete, but whenever somebody expresses a particular enthusiasm over a combo, it just, it warms my heart.

Gabriel Aguilar, thank you for chiming in. Am I crazy, or did the main section of the Thunderbolt's theme have the same chord progression as where is my mind by the Pixies that was used, in the teaser. I'll be on the lookout for that when we go back. I wish I'd ask them.

I didn't hear it, so I wish I thought to ask. Yeah, I love that because that does tie into the depression elements and how we listen to that song and the 90s alt rock things. I love that Jen Zino's Toadies now because of this movie. Yeah, I'm going to listen for that. Thank you. Big Toadies love in recent times.

Do you want to die? I've been listening to them like nonstop. That album actually. They've been on the rotation because of the trailer. Head you back to the 90s. I'm definitely going to be listening. Also just saw Papa Roach live, and that was like, let's say about that?

Not yet. I got to go backstage because Paul reps Papa Roach and Jacoby. So I got to, like, hang out with Jacobi and talk about, like, he was my first concert. I saw him, Slipknot, and, like, I went to Oz Fest when I was 14. They were headlining, so he was my first concert, and then they were my first backstage hang. I got to, like, talk to Jacoby about art for a while and get his throat remedies because he, like, sings every night.

and, like, he makes a special tea, got the recipe. Also, his cardio is insane. He ran up the forum. Like, that's the one. Yeah. Yeah, he went from stage up, leapt up a side thing, ran up the stairs, and never missed a note, like, running. And, like, his cardio is the best I've ever seen. Yeah, it was awesome.

Dude, that's, well, and that's, yeah, 90s rock's back. And that's what you got to, to be a rock star of the modern time, you do have to actually be fit. Yeah. Like, compared to the 70s, you do actually have to be in shape. Yeah, really. funny to me. Deadshot, next film for me, that's freaking cool, though. Yeah, it was insane. Next film

for me is FD6, which I can't wait for Final Destination 6, take me a second. I'm actually more excited for that than this, just because I've seen a lot of MCU movies, obviously. I've never seen a Final Destination movie because I was too young. Same. I have seen zero of those

films. So I am excited to maybe potentially, I know Greg and Roxy have done a series on Final D, but I am such a big fan of Final Destination. And you were there at CinemaCon. I heard that. It was bonkers. I white knuckled the whole 10 minutes.

I was like, I'm so happy but stressed. And my friend Al Laurie's in it. She's in Final Destination and The Black Phone 2. She's in my two most anticipated horror movies of the year, and I am so proud of her. We did Rocky Harder together. Hell yeah. Yeah, she's the best.

But yeah, I'm so excited at Final Destination. I'm seeing it a week from Monday. And I'm elated. I'm very excited. I love that franchise a lot. Remind me. Before we close out here in the next nine minutes or so, what you played in Rocky Horror.

Oh, yes. Okay, we got Doe Eyes. I grew up being told, and thank you, Doe Eyes for joining in. Toadies are from Doeis hometown. Hey, not bad. Fun fact. Doe Eyes, perfect timing. Love your cat avatar as well.

I grew up being told it's just a movie, book, painting, anytime I want to discuss art. So this channel is a welcome, Save Haven. Keep crushing it. Hell yeah. There is nothing. I don't think there's a sentence I hate more, besides you're overthinking it,

then it's just a movie. song, painting. I think that art is the only thing that keeps us from the animals. Other animals have opposable thumbs. I've always hated that shit. They're like, oh, they've got opposable thumbs. Yeah, so do fucking raccoons.

But art and celebrating and burying your soul is what separates us from the animals. It is what connects us. Whales have songs. Whales have emotionality and all those things, and that shows the intelligence of that mammal, the dolphins as well. What separates us from lower beasts is emoting and the smartest

creatures emote. Art is a reflection of emotion. And if something is just a blank, that is the other person saying that, not being able to see the value in something, not you seeing value in something. I was on a trip recently, and we overheard someone talking about when they were leading a guided tour across this trail,

and the question they were posing was, do animals perceive beauty? And I was like, what a question for like a regular, you know, Sunday after his trip. I thought you were on a trip. I was on a trip. And you could have also, it sounds like, about a trip. No.

But that means a lot. And yeah, like, Unless, I think it's just a movie or a painting or whatever, if we're getting ugly about it. I don't think there's much good reason to get ugly with people about it. But other than that, yeah, like, I'm sad to hear that you would be dismissed about that because, yeah, the whole point of any book, movie, or painting

is to jump in and share your feelings about it if you have them and, you know, bounce off of it, have an experience, you know. So I'm glad that at least in some roundabout way we can foster that for you here. Because, yeah, like, everything hits everyone different, and it's all perspectives, and that's the kaleidoscope of, experience and art and all that stuff. The great Ryan Nielsen just joined in chat. I think you guys met recently.

Some of you guys have tech stuff, I think. He's a buddy of mine from the Afterbuzz Days from Marvel Movie News. Yes! Oh my God, Ryan! Roxy recommended, Ryan. I ran into that dude on the streets of Thunderbolts yesterday, Thursday. I don't know. What's time? Just ran into Ryan. It was good to see him.

In fact, thanks to Ryan, this stream looks a lot better than it used to. He's a good man. He was one of my favorite Marvel News people back in the day. I've done that dude forever. out to Ryan. Hell yeah. Thanks for being here again on a Saturday. Bonnie, I think it was a Saturday. No question or comment

of the films, but just here for the vibes and hang out. Adore the Real Rejects, gotta send support, and thank you so much for doing so. Like, seriously, thank you for just taking the time out to express gratitude. Like, it means a lot to us, and it always feels kind kind of crazy to be in

this position where people can express gratitude to us. So, you know, yeah, like, I'm glad you enjoy it, and it means a lot. So thank you. so much. Seriously, like, you guys have been all super sweet, and as coy as echoed, like, we, I feel like every comment section has its stuff, but I feel like the people who show up for us in our comments and who are talking and, you know, stoking the discourse, I always feel like we have a pretty wholesome and kind-hearted group of people around, so I thank you

a lot. Like, it means a real, a real, yeah. And tree, D, never let anyone in a position of supposed authority tell you how to feel about anything. That's the thing that's the biggest epiphany of my adulthood is, uh, people that think they're in power often the weakest. And I think that that is especially coming from an

English teacher telling you how to experience art. That's not a teacher. That's someone that wants power. That's someone who wants power. Galaxy geeks. Thanks for swinging by. Right here at the end. Anthony Alvarez taking us home before I do one last sweep. Can't wait to see the Fantastic Four

and New Avengers interact. It's going to be interesting seeing them fight each other is going to be a fun fight sequence. I believe that. Absolutely. I mean it's going to be like, you know, your two favorite children fighting each other and then fighting X-Men. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Porn toys out in the sandbox. Yeah, I think that's going to be real fun. It's going to be wild and I, you know, there's so many high stakes and stuff like that and there's so much, you know, coming down the line, but it's nice to be buzzing with a bit of excitement. See what Jasmine just said.

You can watch all five Final Death Nations by Monday. You can be here plus one of the premiere. No pressure. All right. Well, we're going, going now. I'll just be binging. We're going to cut off here and then I'm just going to go straight into binge mode. Michelle with the final super sticker, thank you

so much for the hearts. We heart you as well. I'm going to do one more check on the super, not the super, the stream labs. But gang, leave us any of your final destination thoughts as we hop

back to the end here. That is the next big movie, I feel like. That's the next. That's the finger. And we got one more stream lab, perfect. Let's do this thing. Alrighty, Tori, Jerry. I personally like that they didn't turn John Walker

into a, quote, likable character. I like that they didn't gloss over his past actions or give him a redemption arc. They kept it more ambiguous, and I found it refreshing. I agree. I think that's one of the beautiful things about this film is no one got, like, cleared for what they've done. Everyone is still navigating being the person they are,

and that ties so beautifully into mental health. I agree. Like the John Walker not being like, like, well, you're Captain American now. That means all your stuff's absolved. Like, there are consequences and weight. And I love that as well. Oh, I love that little, like, defying innocent or whatever. Yeah.

Like, and, yeah, like, I've heard some people say, like, man, he's a real dick. And I'm like, you know, he is. And I kind of liked it. And by the time the movie reaches a point where he's kind of less of a dick, I'm like, cool. And he has the kind of guy to street cred his high school team. And I love that. Yes. Back to back to back to back champions.

And, like, there's something about him where, like, I don't know, he, oh, I had a thought, and now it's, like, dissolving. Oh, in real time. We've been doing this three hours. We have been doing this three hours. But, yeah, like, he's so fun to watch, and I think that there's, like, without ever, I don't know, there's, like, never too much with him. Like, you get the guy.

That's what it is. You get the guy who really must exist under there, but he's really good at playing. I think one of the nuances that. complexities of acting, especially in an ensemble like this, is you have to sell in a professional environment like you're all together and like you are, you know, at the top of your game. And he's like, I feel like his cocky attitude is partly genuine, but also partly him trying to puff himself into the role he actually wants to embody rather than the one he is so desperately trying to escape. And I thought he played the nuances of that really, really nicely.

I asked him if he based his physicality or, yes. I grew up around way too many John Walker. I asked to be based his character or physicality off his time when he was a hockey player. He was a professional hockey player. What? What? Yeah. And I.

So I asked him about that. He's like, well, I mean, the physicality is always going to be informed by athleticism, ball of all we started talking. And then he's like, actually, that was one guy I based off him. And he like, shouted out the guy's name. It was one of my favorite moments from the red carpet is him like calling out a dude in his hockey team is inspiring John Walker. why it's dope to talk to you

I also love that he's been out here being like yeah being an Epo baby makes life a lot easier I asked him of him and his dad talk about the MCUs because his dad is the daddy of the MCU he was like we don't really talk about it he's like really proud of me but it's not like Thanksgiving conversation that's fair that's fair yeah no he was a great dad to talk to oh man

I'm jealous of that well gang it's been real thank you so much for being here Koi who did you play in the Rocky Horror Picture show the narrator in the Rocky Horror Picture Show because I realized that he is the closest to Deadpool as I'll ever play. So I did the callbacks from the audience,

then would run on stage for the onstage stuff, run back to the audience. So I made it a fourth wall breaking narrator, and that's how I, like, understood the play. Because it's a really hard play to do a stage play up. We didn't do the shadow cast. We didn't do, like, the movie behind and people play it. We had a full seven-piece band

and did the play. Oh, wow. And we did it all over L.A., we did it for four years. You did it, like, Hedwig. Yeah, yeah, we did like the show. So we had the live band, and we had to find a way to make those fourth wall brakes work. So I played him like Deadpool and with the narrator. That is super duper cool.

It's a lot of fun. Yeah, well, gang, thank you for joining us on Thunderbolt today. Again, you know, this has been a real joy, and it's been a while since we've done one of these, and the turnout was really just lovely to behold. So thank you for all your thoughts. Quick, just thank you to Galaxy Geeks, Ion Blosh.

Obviously, Bucky Barnes holding down the moderation. Raynaldo Torres, Torres, Doe, Eyes, Shri, who do we got? G. Colby, Maria Jose, Selva, Selva. I want to name you all. Jasmine in here for the whole run, checking back in, Ryan popping in,

Spidey Sense, good to see you, Jorge, Maria's back, flying Scotsman, Kenson, Big D. This was a movie that I thought like, oh, you know, maybe this would be a pretty, you know, brisk or like a nicely compacted live stream and I feel like this has gone a while but also I feel like it's because there's been so much

conversation and enthusiasm. So that's always a nice surprise and that has kept our energy going. So thank you guys. Yeah, keep on keeping on, keep on being lovely and we will catch you for whatever the next spoiler talk is, whether it be fantastic for or Superman or something before that. Anyway, be well, be good to each other and we will catch you next time.

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the stream labs the super chats, and, yeah. Have a good weekend. Do something, Thunderboltsy. Remember that your darkness is in all of you. Remember that it's good to have others in your life. Remember that your darkest moments don't define you. Remember that there's always a redemption arc around the corner.

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