The Reel Rejects - TOMBSTONE (1993) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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Starting point is 00:01:23 Aaron, anything you would like to say before we get into Tombstone. Let's get in there, partners. Shoot up the way of it. So I heard from Michael Bean. That's what Michael Bean said in the podcast inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. I watched a whole interview and they were talking specifically about this movie. No, he didn't go into spoilers. He just said George Pekis.

Starting point is 00:01:47 This was a crazy set. George Pekistamas was such a jerk. Oh, man. Yeah, he said it was a fun film to make, although George was just not fun to work with. By the way, if you are listening to this on Apple, or Spotify. If you don't mind giving us a rating, we'd really appreciate it.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 but, you know, we have seen a couple Westerns here on this channel. And, yeah, I definitely had all the classic harmonies. marks of a classic western you know i thought the music was very good the setting was very good all the acting was incredible especially um not rye wessel that's that's his that's his son kirk russell and um valcomer valcomer thank you valcomer was really good he was great i think he's like a standout for me yeah absolutely i've seen him in in other roles like like top gun like batman and and so on but this is a very different character for him especially like playing somebody who was sick the entire time and just seeing the progression of that sickness, but his loyalty in the face of

Starting point is 00:03:03 that sickness was just very, very admirable. And just where Russell starts off, like, we see him as like a stern, but like caring guy, like with the whole thing with the horse in the beginning to just like out for blood and just like on this, this quest to avenge his brothers and like to put an end of this crime. I thought it was, it was very cool to watch that play out. Absolutely. Yeah, I definitely get why this is a classic. you know, I'm sure Western heads or just lose their mind over this movie. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:33 And yeah, it was a good time. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. It was very entertaining. I thought it was paced extremely well. Like you, I thought Val Kilmer. Just again, for the 50 million time, I thought the ensemble was phenomenal, so well cast from everyone.

Starting point is 00:03:49 Powers Booth was phenomenal. And I'm not just saying that because he was a close family friend. He was, you can argue with me, that in the comments. He was a terrific villain in this film. So was Michael being. again, I love how versatile, you know, again, I'd only really seen him in good guy roles from

Starting point is 00:04:02 the Terminator and also in aliens, as I mentioned during the reaction. So again, seeing his range as an actor and he, again, he scared the shit out of me in this film. Like, I really felt the threat level, even though kind of Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell always felt like, you know, they felt like they were kind of superheroes in a way like, you know, nothing could stop them. But I always felt like with Johnny Ringo and with Powers Booth, like, you know, there was a threatening, imposing force with those two characters. And they scared, they both scared me. So I thought that was a good contrast for those two characters. Um, but yeah, like you, I think again, Kurt Russell, amazing. I loved him as white herb. Uh, I like like right away, they showed us,

Starting point is 00:04:40 you know, when that guy kind of hit his horse and like, you know, it showed like right away that he's a very compassionate human being. So I was invested right away in his character. Um, but Val Kilmer. What a very difficult role. As you pointed out, like he had tuberculosis. So like, just seeing the progression of how sick he had to be the entire film in coughing and all that. I mean, it's a very difficult role to play. And again, just talking about, you know, we just, I just mentioned that Michael Bean, you know, seeing his range as an actor, this is definitely a different type of role than I've seen Val Kilmer play because I've only seen him in Batman Forever, Real Genius,

Starting point is 00:05:13 which he's hysterical in and a couple other films. So this was definitely a really cool take. And I like seeing the progression of his character as well. You know, he's kind of like, he's doing this whole gambling bit. and like, I mean, again, he's like kind of cheating people. I mean, they didn't really show that he was cheating, but it seemed like it because he's winning like all these hands. So he's got like this con going.

Starting point is 00:05:34 But like at the end of the day, like his friendship, the thing that means the most to him in life, even when he's dying is his friendship with Wyatt Earp. And to me, that was like one of the biggest hearts of the film. And I love that part of the story so much. And then just from everything else from the cinematography, the shots with the sunsets, the wide shots when they were doing the horse on horses and all that the aesthetics all the production design everything looks so authentic and so as you pointed out so lived in they just nailed all that I also really liked the relationship between all the brothers

Starting point is 00:06:10 the urb brothers I really felt the the history between the three of them and also too I was so invested in the three of them to the point of when you know Bill Paxton when his character was shot, whether you saw that coming or not, maybe a little predictable. It doesn't matter. I was so invested that I was still felt the great sadness when that happened to his character. And also, too, it was, again, good. I really liked her Russell's character because you could see the more, because he had definitely a moral compass. And like we said, he's a very compassionate character. He didn't like what the Cowboys were doing in the town. But at the same time, he didn't want anything to happen to his family. So you could see why he didn't want them to get involved.

Starting point is 00:06:50 It was understandable. Like, obviously, you want him to help stop, you know, the injustice that's going on. But also at the same time, like, if you're in the same shoes and you don't want anything to happen to your family, totally understandable too. So I thought they did a good job of, you know, contrasting the two, you know, dichotomies of why he's doing what he's doing. So from that perspective, like, again, it was an interesting moral compass that his character had to go through. And from that perspective. So I thought that was really well done. I also thought the chemistry between him and Dan and Delaney.

Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, we're fire. That was definitely fine. And I thought they did a good job just holding out on that throughout the film. And there was a lot of two, you know, we'll get into some other stuff. But I thought there was a lot of good subversion of expectations, especially that whole thing with Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo. I was like, yes, we're going to get it. No, we're not.

Starting point is 00:07:40 Yes, we're going to get. And then at the end, it was revealed when Doc Holiday came out, because once he was sick on the bed, I really didn't think we were going to get it. So to actually see it actually happened, I was like. that is such a, not only a badass reveal, but again, a satisfactory subversion of expectations for me. As long as it's satisfactory, it's not, we're going to subvert your expectations just to be cool and subvert your expectations. That's the way it should be done in my personal opinion. But yeah, that was really well done. And like you pointed out, too, the music just

Starting point is 00:08:10 really fit well with the times. I'm not sure who did the music. I'll probably, when I check the movie trivia effects in a few moments, I'll get into that. But, Yeah, no, so many well-done performances and, yeah. Yeah, no, I like this whole thing, like we are going to do right in the face of injustice, especially like, because he believed someone who's about his family, you know, about his brothers and he did not want to see them go down that path. And then, you know, these cowboys force his hand. I think that was very admirable to kind of see that go down. Well, and we saw, too, like we saw Kerr Russell, you know, you have that scene where Powers Booth's character, I'm so sorry, I'm not remembering his name, the character. But we saw Powers Booth character. It seemed like either he was, obviously he was drunk. I don't know if he was drugged out or two, but he shot the town marshal, because I don't think it was the sheriff, the town marshal. I don't, I think it was an accident. I don't, right? I don't. Yeah, you know, so dolly an accident. Yeah, it seemed like it was, I think it was, his name was Fred, I believe. Anyways, he shot. shot him and then Kurt Russell again he took him to jail he's like hey we're going to let the

Starting point is 00:09:23 trial do that but that's all he was willing to get involved which again totally understandable and the only reason he as we know that he got thrust into action once I mean also too when he saw that his brothers were going to get involved and become the town marshal's like I just got to make sure that they're protected like I'm doing this to make sure nothing happens to my family and I love that about his character um but obviously too we saw what thrust Sam Elliott into action And we saw like he just was watching the injustice. He saw that kid almost got run over by the horses and just everything, all the people suffering. So, you know, again, I like that compassionate side to him.

Starting point is 00:09:57 Again, just seeing that compassionate sign to the Earp family in general. But then once we saw what happened to Bill Paxton, Kurt Russell's. Again, we talk about subversion of expectations with the whole Valcomer thing. I love how they set up Powers booth and all the Cowboys. Like, I just want you to know it's over. And they were expecting them to come after them to go to the train station and then we were just waiting for them. them. It just shows too, like, you know, he's, uh, he's been through this before, not in terms of his family getting shot, but just like he knows the way these guys think. Because he was,

Starting point is 00:10:28 I think he was like a marshal before is what they claimed right at the beginning of the film. He's like, I'm done. I'm retired. I'm not doing this anymore. Um, so I, I just like just seeing like that, that intellect from him. It was really like, he's just a badass in general. Yeah. Um, he was a badass. Yeah. So, um, but yeah, I know really cool stuff. Um, just try and think of anything else we want to talk about. Reject Nation, when I heard that this company wanted to partner up with us yet again, I was so enthusiastic about it. Reason being, I had already been using their product for well over a year by the point

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Starting point is 00:15:29 Yes. And then have another part of the scene in the background as was going on. I would have liked to have seen what would happen with their resolution. between about Kumer's character and his girlfriend because after that one scene with him being sick

Starting point is 00:15:42 in the bed, we just don't see her again. Yeah, there wasn't much. Did she, I completely forgot just because everything's still kind of fresh.

Starting point is 00:15:50 Did she go off with them on the train when the Earp family left or did she didn't go? She didn't go, okay, yeah, because it kind of,

Starting point is 00:15:58 I mean, because I remember like the doctor said 60% of your lungs are gone and then she was touching him in a certain spot of the body and then she gave him a cigarette. Yeah,

Starting point is 00:16:07 she gave him a cigarette. Tigrit and then was that one that was probably one of the last times we saw her right was the last time that was the last time we saw her okay uh yeah I guess it was kind of unresolved but I think maybe from that point why or Doc was like I'm kind of done with you I mean I guess yeah maybe maybe they were deleted scenes we didn't see I don't know um but yeah I mean uh but hey look I respect Doc Holliday because I mean like we said he had two options he's got either two or three years left to live and he could just sit in bed and just cough all day and do that or he could live his life for another couple months and enjoy himself,

Starting point is 00:16:42 be with his friend. So, hey, you know, I respect what he did. You know, and he was, he was, he just, he missed his 15 year old cousin. And this film was, yeah, this film was a lot more emotional than I, again, I just thought maybe we're just going to have a fun little Western film or something like that. I didn't know it was going to be, have such emotional depth. So, uh, you know, it was definitely a lot deeper than I was expecting. So I appreciate that the writing was really good. some awesome dialogue, you know, characters had some really good development. And, dude, Michael Rooker, that was cool too, seeing, even like side characters with the point I'm making is I like seeing some of the development with him. He saw the injustice going on. I was like,

Starting point is 00:17:22 this is not what I signed up for in terms of like being a cowboy. And so I thought that was really good too, obviously, sad ending for his character. But I thought I like little things like that with side characters where obviously you can't go too deep with, you know, certain side characters like that but i like little things like that we're like okay i see what the injustice going on here so i'm going to uh you know follow in what these guys are doing and i'm not i'm not okay with what's going on here so i appreciate little things like that for sure so with a little epilogue at the end or like the voiceover made me think like okay they said he died in 1929 1929 in l this is a true story then or they just wrote made that part up yeah uh i believe it could be uh you you you you

Starting point is 00:18:06 y'all let us know i know we should be educated enough to know that uh whether it was or was not but i i i don't know anything about the story prior to watch yeah yeah i i know i've heard the name doc holiday and white herb just in general i know also too there was a movie with kevin costner called white up i believe it came out the very next year after this 1994 um i believe he was an actual character or actual person excuse me um i believe so but um kevin costner played the same guy The same character that Kurt Russell plays, I believe that Kevin Koster played the very next year in 1994. I believe so. You let us know in the comments below, but I believe that is correct.

Starting point is 00:18:47 But yeah, anything else you'd like to mention before we go into the trivia? No. I think, you know, that's the perfect transition. Okay, let's go into some of the trivia. Let's see. First of all, I want to see who did the music for this film. let's see tombstone really quick for i got in the trivia here let's see who did the music is it bruce boughton okay i think he also did the monster squad in 1987 the monster squad i

Starting point is 00:19:16 called it uh he's a really good composer all right let's get into some fun trivia facts here let's see okay so some years after the death of doc holiday why it was quoted in an interview as okay so I guess this was these were actual people in real life yes so that answers the question you don't need to let us know some years after the death of doc holiday why it was quoted in an interview as saying and I quote doc was a dentist not a lawman or an assassin whom necessity had made a gambler a gentleman whom disease had made a frontier of vagabond a philosopher who a philosopher whom life had made a cossack wit a long lean ash blonde fella near nearly dead with consumption, and at the same time, the most skillful gambler and the nervious, speediest, deadliest man with a six gun that I've ever, that I ever knew. Okay. Interesting fact, but I'm glad that cleared up that these were actual real people. Do a few more, the line quoted by Doc at the end of the fight at the OK Coral is historically

Starting point is 00:20:23 true and was reported in the Tombstone papers reporting the fight. when confronted by one of the cowboys at point blank range the cowboy reportedly said i got you now doc you son of a bitch to which doc gleefully retorted you you are you're a daisy if you do okay cool daisy if you do you're a daisy if you do oh 1800 yes right early 1900s when the erps first entered tombstone a grave marker in the cemetery says here lies lester more from a 44 no less no more a real life tombstone in tombstone arizona with that epitaph has been on display for at least 60 years lester more was a wells fargo agent murdered in knocko arizona in eighteen eighty by hank dunstan dunstan also died in the fight and was buried in knocko oh wow

Starting point is 00:21:18 interesting shout out wells fargo yeah right doc holidays wink to billy clinton just before the culmination of the okay corral gunfight was completely improvised by valcomer i did love that character trait where he went like he's so confident he's like i don't care that we're in like a standoff writer and there's four guys like i love that that again just hearing that that was improvised such a val kilmer thing to do i mean that comp or doc holiday rather that is such a trait of his character that confidence it's you know boasting within him cool very cool according to val kilmer screenwriter Kevin Jari, sorry if I mispronounced it, insisted that the actors wear real wool costumes in accordance to the, with the time period. In the birdcage theater scene, Kilmer says a thermometer on the set read 134 degrees Fahrenheit, 56 degrees Celsius.

Starting point is 00:22:13 Kilmer suggested jokingly that was the reason Doc Holliday killed so many people. It's just like he wore wool in the summer in the Arizona territory and that made him mad. Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, we live in L.A. And it gets, I mean, the summertime, what does it get like 100 and something some days? So them's wearing, I was thinking that. Yeah, we're in that. And that's the Arizona desert.

Starting point is 00:22:34 Oh, my God. I can't even. I don't know, like, what time of the year they shot that? But, I mean, they just, what did that say? 134 degrees? Jesus. Yeah, there were so many layers in that. I wouldn't be like, we need fans on set and I need people squirting me down with the, yeah,

Starting point is 00:22:49 water gun or something. It would be authentic, Andrew. They didn't have fans. back then on set. No, I know. I'm saying... They're layers. That's true.

Starting point is 00:22:57 It's got to be more authentic. All right, I'll do three more and we'll call it. Val Kilmer practiced for a long time on his quick draw speed and gave his character a southern aristocrat, excuse me, accent. The southern accent is an authentic touch as Holiday was a cousin, several generations removed of Margaret Mitchell, author of Gone with the Wind. Wow. That's a cool fact. Nice. Interesting.

Starting point is 00:23:23 mitchell. Wyatt Earp died in 1929, having never been so much as scratched by a single bullet, impressive. The fact that his name is known above, for instance, Virgil's the Marshal of Tombstone at the time of the famous gunfight is largely due to Wyatt's self-promotion. Before his death, he walked in Hollywood circles, and John Wayne once claimed to have met him, apparently modeling his famous walk on that of Wyatt Earp. wow that's pretty cool yeah all right let's do one more here oh okay so the lawman Wyatt Earp's fifth cousin Wyatt Earp plays Billy Claiborne damn keeping it in the family yeah last one actually it was Valcomer's idea to whistle on the way to the okay corral dude he just loves to improvise I love it's a great actor yeah phenomenal phenomenal I feel so

Starting point is 00:24:21 bad that he has the throat problems but uh so glad we got to see him here in his prime um but let us know what did you guys think of tombstone are there other western films that you would like at all myself anyone else on the team to react to we'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section uh appreciate you being here thank you so much for uh listening to my references hearing uh aaron and myself also mostly me just oh my god this person's in this in the film sorry i didn't know Just saying, appreciate it. You bearing with us, me specifically. Love you guys.

Starting point is 00:24:57 Appreciate it. And we will see you guys next time. Peace.

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The Reel Rejects - TOMBSTONE (1993) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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