The Reel Rejects - TRON: LEGACY (2010) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, I'm just going to get that out of the way really quick. It's so accurate in your observations. I know. I'm just going to get that out of the way really quick. Oh, is that the director of the first one? I think so. Anyways, the producer. I mean, it's not the greatest CGI, but again, they were still at the early stages.

Starting point is 00:03:08 So I kind of just, I still kind of view it as like, you know, as groundbreaking as the first film was. And like, you know, it's dated. But it's still like a charming thing of the first film that I love. And yes, when you watch it now with when you watch it now, like the CGA, it is very distracted. acting and it's definitely dated. But again, they were still at the very early stages. So it is what it is. It's weird.

Starting point is 00:03:32 It's a thing where it's like if the first movie hadn't been in a position where it had to have just all the actual actors on screen, daft punk, of course, stars of the movie, Daff Punk. And Sarah Halley Fincast is. Damn, not bad. But yeah, like the original movie having to have all the actors just on screen with effects all around them. weirdly I think works against this

Starting point is 00:03:57 because if you didn't have that precedent and you watch this I feel like it is well it's two things it's yeah it's like it makes sense for him to look a bit CG in an all computer world but the problem is that everybody around them is like a photo real human being

Starting point is 00:04:13 for the most part so like deaging yeah it's weird it's like I wouldn't have a problem with it as a de age in context if that other detail wasn't the case. It's like I could easily forgive this for not looking, you know, like it would have been interesting to watch this the year it came out because I bet the year it came out, there

Starting point is 00:04:33 would probably be just a different, the levels on the conversation of like, it doesn't look 100% real, but like, man, how far this technology has come. Like, it was probably a little bit more like outwardly impressive initially. Yeah. But even still, it was like watching it, yeah, it's like it is one of the more distracting elements of the movie it's it's but there was that one shot when he came up though that actually did look pretty good yeah overall oh that one guy's name was jarvis look at that okay we're not the only one who make marvel references oh and stephen lisberger was in it oh the director

Starting point is 00:05:11 the first one and by the way if you are listening to this on spotify or apple or you're listening in the digital world if you don't mind giving us a rating we would very much appreciate it Having said that, the rest of the visual effects, not as good as the 1982 film, but very, very, I love, again, I love the world, just, it's so cool. And also, like, the battles and the gaming and the bike cycling and also with the jet cycling, too, a lot of the updates that they've done and the suits and everything. I mean, it's just so well updated. And again, obviously at this time in 2010, we're so used to seeing CGI and visual effects. We're at a point now in time where it's not as groundbreaking, but still having come from 1982 to this point in time,

Starting point is 00:05:55 I just thought they really updated everything in a very beautiful way. Yeah, like part of the fun of the first Tron, and certainly this one is just, yeah, getting to spend time in the world and all the little details and everything. And yeah, this was continuing that tradition and flourishing that in a nice way. And it split the difference in terms of tone, Because what thing that hit me whilst watching this and certainly it was apparent when we watched the first one

Starting point is 00:06:24 was like, this is very, I kept thinking about Dune while I was watching this, being like this as a franchise if you want to go, because now we're getting a third one and all that stuff. Like, you know, you could do some interesting stuff in that you have this world that really lends itself to big CGI spectacle. But again, the charm to me of the first movie

Starting point is 00:06:46 and why I was pleasantly surprised by and maybe less everybody when kind of talking about the first tron is always like oh yeah you're like groundbreaking for the effects but like the story's a little boring and i didn't have that experience but i can definitely see how you would or could and and i feel like this movie kind of splits the difference in that it is definitely more geared toward the modern sensibility of action blockbusters and whatnot and especially in the first act i was you know a little on the fence about like, okay, how are we, how is, uh, the pace of this movie going to feel? Because like early on, it felt a little, uh, quick how, you know, uh, Sam Flynn is, is,

Starting point is 00:07:28 you know, out here doing his thing. And then, you know, he just that one day breaks into the, the, the, the, um, you know, lab and just immediately activates laser and goes in. And then he's immediately like thrust into the games. And, and, and yeah, like, there's a little less of that air and breathing space to just like, feel like you are. are in the world or like the thing is like because the first movie is a little less populated by so many things. There's like you buy the space between set pieces and stuff a little bit more than you do in something like this.

Starting point is 00:08:03 However, I do appreciate that this movie still maintains at least a certain degree of that element of, I guess nowadays you would call it world building. But, you know, spending time in this place getting to know what it's, like and what you know beautiful special things might have happened here that are worth fighting for or whatever i wish some of those things were richer because it's like especially for how important the cora character is a part of me was like i like seeing the sam you know i like seeing the story of like his son and all that stuff like that's a good idea fine uh and a good way to like tie it all back to jeff ridges because we love jeff ridges in the first movie yes but part of me is

Starting point is 00:08:43 like man she's part of this like special race and stuff and and she's like you know know, she's the last one of them and, you know, she's a bit of a special case and a chosen one of sorts. Like, I kind of want to see this character's story from inside the Tron world and maybe if they could have, it's weird. I liked this more than I expected to. Not that I didn't expect to enjoy it, but a lot of the sentiments I heard beforehand and around the time the movie came out was a similar thing to the previous movie in that it's like, wow, the effects and the spectacle in the world are really cool, but the storytelling is whatever, and there's some questionable de-aging. But what I found here was like, yeah, there are times when it got to be

Starting point is 00:09:23 sort of cacophonous, and you are sort of like, okay, I know we have to do all the action movie beats to get to a certain place or get to a certain part of the plot. So there were times where it did feel a little draggy or a little weighed down by, you know, all the beats, all the plot beats we got to hit. But I did think, again, that they did have at least some amount of that charming world flesh that makes something like this appealing and, you know, worth coming back to or whatever. All right, Reject Nation, let's get real for a moment. Running this channel is incredible.

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Starting point is 00:13:12 Or as they say in Spanish, communication. We're done with this ad. Yeah, and just, you know, piggybacking a little bit off what you said. I did like the whole element of, you know, with Jeff Bridges and his son. And also, too, Jeff Bridges bringing back that energy. And also, too, you could just see, like, you know, with age and time, he'd become a lot wiser and more zenier, if you will. So he's obviously... Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah, he really did. did. So he's obviously not the exact same character he was in the first film and obviously 20 years will do that to you. But like you said, I actually do agree with you in terms of Quora's character. I get we had to focus a lot more on, you know, what's happening with Clue and then the reveal of Tron being Rinslet, Rensler, Rinslet, whatever it was. And obviously we got to focus on the relationship between Sam and his father, which Sam and Kevin, which I really liked all that stuff, but I would have liked to have gotten even more with Quora because she was my favorite character in the movie and just the whole idea of the ISO and how it could, you know, repair the

Starting point is 00:14:18 world in terms of, I forgot that great line. He said, you kind of repeated the line. I forgot what the line was. It was a great line though. But I'm just, you know, about how the ISO's were like going to heal the world with, you know, medicine and all that stuff. And I just found that whole thing to be so fascinating. Yeah. They just hold the key to kind of all the things that ALS, they could, you know, help us fix that. Yeah, and it would make sense. Like, obviously, like, Kevin was so fascinated by the world.

Starting point is 00:14:44 I mean, that was his life. But, like, now you insert, like, the fact that he could, like, heal the world. Like, I mean, it makes sense why he would want to go there. And then you have that whole arc of him understanding, like, what he'd lost was even greater than that with his son. Like, of course, that was the emotional touch of the film, which I appreciated.

Starting point is 00:15:00 But, yeah, I really would have liked more focus, too, on Quora because she is such a great character. And I'd love, too, for a character that was digitally created like she was, have such a fascination of the real world. And I thought that was, Olivia Wilde did such a great job playing that off. You could see in her emoting and her facial expressions was just so well done. Yeah, it's her body language and that sense of wonder and that like, yeah, that thing where like she's a humanoid character with like, she's essentially supposed to be, you know, like a human character.

Starting point is 00:15:31 But she also has that thing when you're watching, sometimes you'll watch something where you'll have like an alien or somebody. somebody having to embody like a, yeah, some other entity that isn't used to this place and all these traditions and stuff. And so there's like, yeah, a genuine curiosity that came with a lot of her performance, especially when interacting with Sam. And this is one of those movies that because of all these things, it does make me think of so many options of what it could have been because I think they chose, like this makes sense to be the big budget sequel to Tron. to have to play as wide as it does. And part of me does wish they could go a little bit more Dune with it or a little bit more like Alita Battle Angel with it where certain things, it's like the set pieces are really cool.

Starting point is 00:16:22 And you do, again, glimpse some of what it's like to be in here. But I would love to see a version of this that goes even further down that sort of dune hole of like, let's really soak in the environment. And like what is, you know, there's a lot of interesting ideas, but it's a very surface-levely kind of stuff where it's like, oh, yeah, he's this reclusive, Kevin Flynn is this reclusive sort of Zen master

Starting point is 00:16:47 who is, yeah, feeling resigned enough to be like the only way to win is not to play because I'm just stuck here. And, you know, there's like so much about their lives together where you're like, oh man, I would love to see a little bit of this or like see a little bit more of what the ISO, you know, their little pocket of this world was like before everything, you know,

Starting point is 00:17:06 encroached upon them and they were all wiped out and stuff and even the contrast is like I like that they had a visual contrast between our world and the computer yes that's a good point but at the same time like the all the graphics for

Starting point is 00:17:22 inside the computer and all the way that's realized is like for the most part looked really good in terms of the lighting and the movie magic of marrying all the animation the performances whatever props are there plus all these reflective surfaces and panes of glass and stuff like

Starting point is 00:17:38 Like it's really well pulled together in the world. I keep wanting to call it Tron. I guess in this version, the game is called Tron. But like the real world stuff I thought, you know, it didn't look bad, but there was something about the way that they shot it where I, I don't know. There was like a quality to the motion or like a fluidity that did feel like in contrast in a way that didn't 100% click for me. But, you know, I like that they at least went to the trouble. I guess I wish some of the real world scenes got a little more TLC and that could be from the pacing too because I feel like in the first movie you did have moments in the real world where you would be kind of taken aback and you're like oh that's right we haven't been back here in a while and like granted most of the movie takes place in the computer right but yeah again it's it's one of those things where it's like I would have traded a couple minutes maybe of really cool spectacles and chases and stuff because after a while it does become that thing of like yeah it's each one is cool

Starting point is 00:18:39 and they're cool to experience for the first time but I bet on a rewatch especially it's like there's a lot of yeah it's like you've got a lot of neon lit stuff and a lot of really cool

Starting point is 00:18:49 again set pieces and stuff but there does become that thing when you don't have as much of the because that's the thing is it poses ideas and there's this whole thing about like you know hoarding information and charging for it

Starting point is 00:19:01 versus making it free and giving it to all the people and like there are little you know Robin hoodie themes or populist themes or whatever and the theme of, yeah, I wanted to make this perfect world and I got so obsessed with that

Starting point is 00:19:15 that I became a tyrant. I basically made a fascist world instead because I was trying to find just the one way everything should exist when really chaos is part of it. And those are the times where I wish this could behave more like some kind of sci-fi epic

Starting point is 00:19:30 rather than having to behave like a popcorn blockbuster. And again, I think that there is some of that blend And I did feel not the same kind, but like, especially for the moment this takes place in in terms of when it came out and everything, like, there is still a dazzling quality to how the world comes to life, even if it doesn't have as many thumbprints and as many sort of, like, the first movie felt like watching a stop motion animation movie only in the sense that you can just feel how much hand crafting had to go into each frame. And that's not to slight CG animators because like a movie like this sings because of the tremendous work. from the animators and I think that this is a case where maybe not quite as awe-inspiring as the first movie

Starting point is 00:20:13 it still does give you that feeling of like man I would love to play a VR game in this world I would love to visit this place everything looks so freaking cool I want to know more about this society so my only hope is that going into Tron 3 they embrace more of those space operatic

Starting point is 00:20:30 kind of qualities because there were things about this movie that did get a little kooky you know it's like the stuff between Jeff Bridges and Garrett Headland, I thought was nice and, you know, relatively heartfelt in earnest, but it is like a more familiar and a more straight played thing, whereas you have like Michael Sheen dressed as David Bowie doing all sorts of craziness. And, you know, even Cora is like a little bit quirky in her, you know, interactions and the way she observes things.

Starting point is 00:21:00 Then you've got like the hench dude who is clearly like just a complete spineless opportunist. And so, yeah, it's like, I appreciate those things, and those are spiritual elements where I'm like, okay, so you didn't fully misunderstand what the assignment on. But, yeah, next time, I hope you bring more of this stuff to go along with the action that we know will be neat to look at. And, of course, Joseph Kaczynski, like, is a, you know, a very commanding visual stylist at the very least. So, yeah, it's just about, you know, how does he nail out the storytelling dynamics? Basically, John Wands, Dune meets Blade Runner 249 in Tron. Kind of, yeah. It's like if Dune was also Ready Player 1, you know?

Starting point is 00:21:43 That's a good competition of the three. I feel like... Yeah, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, I feel like that would be the ideal modern Tron movie. Because, again, the thing that surprised me so much about the first one was that, yeah, I felt less like I was in this kind of, like, sleek computer world in this exact cadence. And more like, oh, wow, this feels like some kind of strange empire. of another realm and this does have that but it does feel a little bit more like you're in some

Starting point is 00:22:10 kind of matrix whereas the older tron felt a bit more tangible in a different way and so yeah it's like that's the duneiness that i guess i'm talking i wasn't the biggest fan of the fifth pirates of the caribbean i know that's the best one yes i know i know the best one and the director is doing that so having said that i do like the cast of the of tron aries i believe is what it's called it's got Jared Leto, Evan Peters. Called Trithrine. And Cameron Monaghan, I think we saw it was on the cast. So, I mean, it's definitely got a very good cast.

Starting point is 00:22:40 I'm intrigued by what the possibilities could be. If anything, I'm just glad to get back into the digital world. And also, too, you mentioned Michael Sheen. I really loved the way he was chewing the scenery. I love what you were saying, too. And I wonder how many takes they had of him just ramping up and doing that dance. Yeah, yeah. They probably just like, just do what you got to do.

Starting point is 00:23:03 We'll just, we'll film you, do your thing. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I mean, still, I had a fun time. It was a good, you know, for first time. But I think, like what you said, it could be a little tedious on the action sequences, probably on repeat viewings. But we'd love to hear in the comments section. What did you guys think?

Starting point is 00:23:21 Do you prefer the first one? Do you like this one? Are they equally as great? Are you looking forward to, how did you say, Trent, Trithian? Tritthian. You're looking forward to Jared Leto's Tron. Yes. Starting Jared Leto.

Starting point is 00:23:35 Yes. Yes. Okay. I'm actually excited to see. I'm curious what they're going to do. But yeah, no, these were, I honestly, I enjoyed these two films. They were fun. I had a good time. I appreciate the digital stuff that we got and just like living inside the world building.

Starting point is 00:23:50 I just thought it was really cool. And also Kevin Flynn. I thought it was a cool character. If this really is the end, because it doesn't seem like he's going to be in the third one. They'll surprise us with a. with the bridges. You know they will. Hey man, I'm here.

Starting point is 00:24:02 What's going on, guys? I'm back inside the machine. God, maybe he'll show up as like a Zordon head. That's like, you know, that thing at the end and he explodes and becomes, you know,

Starting point is 00:24:13 the one singularity, whatever. It confuses with himself. I want to see that so bad. Now, reset the Matrix. If we don't get that, it will be so disappointed. But anyways,

Starting point is 00:24:22 let us know what you thought of this film and are you looking forward to the third one and yes, do all the YouTube things at that subscribe button, icon on notifications and smash the like button and we shall see you next time boom

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