The Reel Rejects - Tyler Perry's MADEA In DIARY OF A MAD BLACK WOMAN (2005) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Teleperia it up. You got working on my deal. May I got some corn bread? It's more of my Chris Tucker. All righty, guys, we just watched Diary of a Mad Black Woman. If you are watching this on YouTube, hello, we're done. If you're watching slash listen to this on Apple or Spotify, give us five stars and we'll find you and we'll take you in the wheelchair where you dump you in the goddamn tub until you give us five stars. Greg, who watched the movie?

Starting point is 00:01:55 How you feeling? I feel good. what's the thing of the movie oh oh man no not a good move no no no i liked it i liked it it's weird it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination it's definitely a little truncated um tonally it's a little all over the place of times i'd be lying if i said that i didn't enjoy it a lot though i think that it is a strange experience of a film i did not know what i was getting into it's categorized right there as a comedy. It is.

Starting point is 00:02:29 I would say this is a drama more than a comedy. Yes. And then I would call it a psychological thrill. Some scenes might as well be. Yeah. It's a very weird experience.

Starting point is 00:02:49 And I don't, I mean, I imagine the movie is a massive hit or something considering the Medea franchises. is enormous i think it's considered a the classic this is like the the opening thing into it the only thing i knew about this movie is that the lot the wire hanger line because i've heard that many times growing up okay um but yeah i think i also enjoyed it too i feel like it was a little all over the place but i think i ultimately had a good time watching it uh you know there had a lot of

Starting point is 00:03:21 things that i'm familiar with from just seeing other non film projects of Tyler Perry. I've seen shows like Meet the Browns. I've seen House of Pain because I grew up watching those with like my grandma and like my mom and stuff. So watching this movie was a very interesting experience because I know familiarish

Starting point is 00:03:41 with like Tyler Perry's work and his style. So there's thematic similarities? Some thematic similarities like for example like the whole kids and the father like holding it down with the mom as a drug issue. That is like straight up like something from like one the shows and like that's like a running like plot line so I feel like it's interesting this being

Starting point is 00:04:03 Tyler Perry's first entry into film because I wonder how much of this was adapted from the stage and does it work better on stage because this is like obviously the medium it was originated in and like what was cut out to make it accessible as a runtime because there was I feel like there was a bit of things that were disjointed but that being said I do like the things that were on display as far as like you know the whole aspect of the mother being on drugs and like the father kind of having to to do that I think that you know Tyler Perry played that very well sure the thing I'll say about the primary plot is that one the actress who played the main character was great I think she did a really good job with the the emotional range

Starting point is 00:04:49 of the the role uh I think uh Shemir who played the love interest. I thought he was also good in the scenes that he was given. I'll say that when the montage, you know, I definitely could feel the romantic nature of their relationship. That being said, I don't think I ever really understood why they loved each other. I understood that they were attracted to each other. But I feel like because we are not given the romantic feeling time to really develop

Starting point is 00:05:23 and like a sit-in to it i'm like you know she's mean to you for like half this movie and like making like leaves you and then comes back i was like what is the thing that draws you to this woman um and maybe is the fact that they had like a similar experience like you felt like a a kinship and the fact that they were people that were yes discarded i will say that is around the point when the movie like as as much as this movie would take these swings in their tone and shifts, that montage was when the movie started to become a little bit I don't know what the word is for me

Starting point is 00:06:02 but I started to feel a bit of a disconnect because of the fact that we just started the romance with them with them like hanging out and having their date and all of a sudden they've like montage into like a deep relationship and I'm like what exactly is this passage of time that we have had with them into how far into the relationship are they?

Starting point is 00:06:22 I wish we kind of got a little bit more engross in it to probably make the movie like two and a half hours if they were to do that versus just under two hours. So I understand what studios in this first movies before Tyler Perry's Tyler Perry probably doesn't have the power to be like, yeah, I want this to be like two and a half hour

Starting point is 00:06:37 film. That's what I did. Huh? He produced it. He's one of the I know, but it's still with like Lionsgate and stuff. So when you get to that point, you still got to be like, well, to get the theater releases they make two and a half hours versus under two hours. A massive difference of distributors. And

Starting point is 00:06:53 fair i that's when i start to feel like we're rushing over something where the connection of this is so integral to the rest of the story and that is when it started to occur with me um for that uh but i i i do think though like you said it when we were watching it it feels kind of like there's a plots worth of a tv show here that has been thrown into a couple of hours which i think is very true and I I that's for the big movie's biggest detriment is because of that although even I got to say like it for the most part not ever not the whole time but for the most part I do think the movie did a pretty good job at writing the line between like soap opera mellow dramatic drama to then something very commuting which

Starting point is 00:07:49 is not easy to do and usually just feels off-putting or too jarring and i never quite felt like it became too jarring um it it actually uh felt fine because they at least kept it within you know why it works is because they never had the characters break like you wouldn't take some of the other characters and put them into some hyper comedic situation it was like no let's take the medea let's make that hyper comedic but the other stuff we're gonna we know when to keep it serious. We don't want to keep it like these characters are with them. This is serious.

Starting point is 00:08:19 So the, the movies focus for where to place drama with the characters and where to place it with the comedy I actually thought did work. But yeah, there is a bit of a, there is a bit of a lot going on. At some parts. It's like a gangster criminal thing at some point. Yeah, we just dive into like a crime drama just for the point of setting up the fact that he gets hurt.

Starting point is 00:08:44 so she could have a reason to go back um yeah and as soon as he got shot i was like okay this is how it's going to play out now and you know it was interesting i will say it didn't entirely play out the way i thought it was i thought he was just going to continue to be a dick and like oh i made the wrong decision and try to go back to him and like beg for his forgiveness but no like he kind of got a redemption too which i was surprised by and you know it's interesting because watching this kind of to build off of what I said that you built off of the back to what I said is that So this is really just going back to how great other things you say are. I am God.

Starting point is 00:09:25 I know Tyler Perry better than I know myself. But I will say that I liked all the pieces of the movies that we got to see in this movie. I wish all of them got more of a chance to breathe. Like Diary of a Mad Black Woman would probably be a really entertaining TV show. And, you know, I think having this story. chance to explore what it's like to be in an abusive relationship and kind of getting to see why she stayed and how the relationship kind of crumbled at least maybe not in flashbacks but we get a little bit more context for why that is yeah and seeing really like why they love each other and

Starting point is 00:10:02 like more about his life because we don't really know much about him other than what happened with his relationship and he just happens to know the family yeah at the cookout I mean there are choices that happen in this movie that I feel that looking back I kind of question the strength of the choices if they are strong because there was a good chunk of this where it felt like our main character is so defined by the opinions of other men whether it be the love interest or her abusive ex-husband and even in the love interest at times it felt like the love interest is the one rescuing her and then it gets to this point where she can have her own agency and stand up for herself but it takes him being paralyzed where he literally can't fight back

Starting point is 00:10:48 in order for her to stand up for herself and to charles so i'm like it's kind of weird at the movie like is is doing this thing of like i'm standing up for myself i'm going to beat my own strong woman what he literally can't do move i'm like okay i mean it kind of loses some the impact a little bit. It eliminates some of that fear and I don't think she would have been, I think she would have harbored that resentment for him had that situation not happened, but obviously the love was still there because she, she went back to him. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:23 So, well, I think that's the only, because you don't really get the impression that she's like terrified of him, but you know, you know, she, you do understand that she's observient, but I never got the feeling that she was, like, scared, like, to, to, to. ever say anything like ultimately but i feel like because of the experiences she went through and with him and then with medea well she because medea said like yeah like a little bit of me rubbed off on you and then so that experience coupled with the conversation that kind of gave her the power to yeah be more well i think the movie is is uh is really emblematic of a lot of the christian values that it's actually um that that are exploring with the community with the family

Starting point is 00:12:07 here because so much of it does come down to forgive yourself forgive others no matter how painful it is and like why it's important to forgive and to have those themes explored here i thought was actually nice i got a little bit more out of it than i expected to mainly because it's not just some like wacky comedy like i was led to belief just from little isolated clips i might have seen in passing of Medea over the years. I've never like actually seen a clip like let me watch a clip of Medea.

Starting point is 00:12:42 So to see to see all that being laced throughout this entire journey of ultimately through what this woman's going through in her diary. Yeah, I think sometimes it could have gone a little bit further but for the most part

Starting point is 00:12:58 I would say I was like I was genuinely like entertained the entire time. The entire time I was entertained. I was never like thinking about something else i i found myself like kind of curious about where this is all going to go uh certain directional choices i i thought i like i like that it actually ends with the guy abuser man charles learning being like stripped down to that point yeah the forgiveness as well yeah that was a surprise for sure that that was a nice um element to it and i could actually see why medea because in a movie that is very much like

Starting point is 00:13:34 it's so dramatic and then when Medea steps in it's such a levity that's why I think it works probably worked better on the stage because you know we have these heavy things we have these actors that I feel like for the most part were stage actors so all of these things that are happening were probably like heightened because you got to play to the back row right so it's like probably really plays really heavy on stage

Starting point is 00:13:59 so then when Medea comes in it's like a breath of fresh air before we go back into the heavy but in a film context i think it just it goes back and forth rather than high low high low i felt that more with the joe character than i did medea yeah joe was just straight comedy show is like watching like nutty professor yeah yeah because every time they're cut for cut to him because i feel like medea was was uh comedy infused with heart like they they played a character through the filter of a heightened performance whereas Joe was just like this is the comedy section now and then we're back to the drama stuff yeah I like I actually believed Medea as a character yeah and I bought I eventually stopped seeing Tyler Perry and only saw her the character yeah you know versus that Joe guy was was very that was the all the time I felt like we were like in sketch territory for sure but but not with Medea Medea I was like this kind of makes sense that you could throw her into You can just buy her as a character, which I feel like is a hard prospect with a character that large. I don't mean physically.

Starting point is 00:15:05 I mean, like, you know, energetic wise, expression it wise. I thought that worked. I do think this storyline with Tyler Perry and that wife, who's the drug addict, I don't think was entirely necessary here. Or if they are going to include it, I think it ought to have been more than one layer. because there's script parts here where they're really preachy, I think. And I think there are times in the script where they're very much telling us how to feel and telling us what to think. This is the message. Yeah, there's a lot of that in this movie.

Starting point is 00:15:39 So I don't think it's like the strongest dialogue. But in tone, in the tonality of the experience, I enjoy that. That's the thing. It's like, I'm fine with it. I'm not like watching it being like I wish you would show not tell like I'm not like judging it into that extent I'm enjoying it because of like

Starting point is 00:16:01 the tone that it's embracing but if you're gonna do that story I wish there was a little bit more nuance or more than just the same one note until she goes to rehab yeah yeah because otherwise I don't think it was like it to be in the movie

Starting point is 00:16:16 yeah because like I feel like that was enough story to be its own movie and I feel like because it's like the C plot to this movie. I feel like it kind of gets short changed and that moment where she comes and sings at the church doesn't really hit hard because we didn't really get to see her struggle. And I want to know if maybe there was more of that in the stage version because I feel like you're not restricted to have to meet a runtime. I mean, granted there is a runtime for a play, but there's also like an intermission during play. So you have that that total feeling of this is the first half

Starting point is 00:16:48 and this is the second half, but you have to reconstruct it for a film. I felt like they kept it in the movie because Tyler Perry was the character. I didn't want to play a character that's not Medea. Yeah, I get to show my face. I get it be me. I get to look like me. That's a, actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the part of the deal.

Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah, and I think the it's the interesting thing about Tyler Perry and the Medea movie, because obviously this is like a franchise across TV and film is that some of these characters I don't know which ones, but characters like Medea, like Joe,

Starting point is 00:17:28 and then we didn't meet him in this movie, but like Mr. Brown are like recurring across. Oh, cool. Spoilers, sorry, not spoilers, but like. I won't remember that. Okay, for sure. But yeah, I think there's like there's some semblance of a through line through these types of stories.

Starting point is 00:17:44 That being said, from what I've seen in TV shows and what I've heard people say, which I don't know how much truth there is, because I haven't seen, have experience of myself, but there we do see some sort of similar plot lines and character archetypes through these movies. But, you know, I be down to explore them and see what other shenanigans Medea and the rest of the crew get into. Yeah, I'd be down. I'd love to explore the Medea Cinematic Universe, the MCU, as they call it.

Starting point is 00:18:15 Oh, God. Oh, the other MCU, baby. Yeah. Greg, do you have any final thoughts before we wrap up this Medea? No, lead actress was great, really strong, really carried this movie. And I think it would be fun to kind of see, because I see there's like a Halloween Medea movie. Is it really? It's called Boo, and there's a sequel.

Starting point is 00:18:39 When I had to, we were going to do this, I had to look up like Medea movies in order. Uh-huh. And I was like, there's a Medea Christmas movie. Really? There's a Boo Halloween Medea film and there's a sequel to Boo. yeah you know it's a franchise she's in all of them i don't know how much i know it's a franchise because i when i was like oh shit we're doing this there's so many movies at the look it up before i said yeah let's do it uh yeah and i don't know maybe we should

Starting point is 00:19:07 skip to boo before Halloween just so we could get a little Halloween movie in there oh that'd be fun i don't know how much if it's like the 10th movie in the franchise so we skipping a lot yeah i don't know how many through lines are if it's just like episodic experiences but yeah i'd be down for that all right guys do you want to see us watch more medea in her shenanigans let us know down in the comments below we love you guys and we look forward to seeing guys the next one thoseus bite josh sano oh hey that's a new name another new wow what a theme of the month jay john what does jay stand for jjohn stands for uh jamboree because whenever you show up it's a friggin jamboree O stands for ostracized because you just push people away when you should be letting them in. S stands for sentimental, which you are not.

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