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Starting point is 00:00:34 Let's go. All right, guys, we've just watched the family that prays. If you're listening on Apple or Spotify, give us five stars. We have finished it. Greg, how are you feeling? What to thinking? I'm feeling good, man. I'm feeling good.

Starting point is 00:00:55 that was a nice soap opera movie yes and yeah i got some opinions i liked it i liked it i did i enjoy my time uh with the movie and it's like i think if i immediately start off with saying that even though from daddy's little girls to why i get married why i get married it's been like a church at first there was a diane goes to jail for us it's been like better better better better my black woman first no i mean i mean in this trajectory of like what was right before daddy's little girls it was media goes to jail

Starting point is 00:01:33 oh sure yeah so it was like good even much better than like oh my god this is great i love this one and this would not be like i put it below like dea goes to jail maybe i don't know i think

Starting point is 00:01:50 there are things to be appreciated about it and i think i do have positive to say but i think out of all the Tyler Perry movies we watched. This one was my least favorite. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:00 I've enjoyed all of them thus far, but I thought this was okay. I thought it was okay. I think there's the strength, there's stuff that's strong and good, I think, really, really hits, I will say. Like, I think the performances were pretty good, especially the two older women. I think, yeah, let's get through. That's why I'm having this on my lap because I've been trying to pull this up. the family that prays yeah i mean i'm in a tough position if i dislike anything about tyler perry movie flamed i am i'm going they're going to come to my home

Starting point is 00:02:37 it's very delicate balance you know how it is man so what happened that was i i mean i i i would say i would definitely put it a little bit more on the uh on the weaker end for sure but i've just kick it off with positives they're not just saying positives to be positive, like our genuine positives. I think Kathy Bates and Alphrey Woodard is her name are so good in this movie. Their relationship is the heart and soul of this experience. It really is. The melancholic vibes, the letting go, the creating memories, what really matters, the values of that. Even the funeral messaging at the end of like, hey, you know, there's a lot of responsibility put on parents for obvious reason good reason rightfully so that the

Starting point is 00:03:32 development of a child a lot of that comes down to how you are as parents at the same time there's other influences in this world that do get in the way and you can't take full responsibility for some of the stuff that ends up happening i actually really like that sentiment a lot you know because you got like two great women who've turned out like shit i got like horrible kids And I tried instillings, especially for Alfred Wooder, like, I tried instill in some values, but some shit just happened that was like life happened. And now here we are. So their performances, I think, are strong and moved me quite a bit. A scene where she's saying that she has Alzheimer's, I was getting very much moved.

Starting point is 00:04:16 And I found there was some pretty good, like, cathartic moments for some characters here. I liked when Chris punched Mr. Cartwright. It was earned, yeah. It was an earned moment. I think, you know, sometimes, sometimes the stuff where it's weird, you can say some stuff of like Tyler Perry consistencies with sometimes it's on the nose, you know, sometimes being down a little bit of like obvious messaging. It happens. And sometimes that is exactly. right for the movie so it's what this is what the movie needed it's what's striking

Starting point is 00:04:58 that tone yeah I think like daddy's little girls but perfect for that and it was fun as hell and and moving same thing with why did I get married I love that movie you know and this one does border on like melodrama soap on as a border sometimes it's straight up is especially with the white folk like the the mr. car like his like car ride in his wife like all that shit was like so at like It was like watching days of our lives or some shit. You know? Do you love her?

Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they came to them, it was like embarrassing. Well, like, I feel like the weird, this still takes place in Atlanta? I don't know if they specified. I don't remember them specifying. Well, I imagine so. His production companies out there. I hear so much about Atlanta all the time.

Starting point is 00:05:44 And I forget like, oh, it's Southern. You know, I forget that. Yeah. And this seemed to be the first Southern drama. of his that we watched and so i was able to kind of see it in that lens of like a modern day southern drama at the same time does it border on a little bit like corny and sappy and and sometimes not just border but really is just like you know a little predictable that's what i mean sometimes you say those things for some of the movies but it's totally

Starting point is 00:06:11 fine but then other times like i don't know i just kind of read as like not as uh not as emotionally engaging this time around especially when he's going for this one's really going for like the heavy and the drama the whole time right i think it felt a little inaccessible for me granted there are like human obviously universal human themes that we explore within tyler parry movies and just film in general but something about just like oh i'm just gonna get back at my mother for taking the company and she's she's rich and just i don't know some of these things just didn't like hit me the same way some of the other tyler perry films did because i feel like with those other films there was like a an era of

Starting point is 00:06:51 familiarity, maybe not experiences that I've directly had, but maybe things of family members I have who've gone through similar or semblance of things. I like seeing the struggle of the common man. I think that's where tapping into the heart and seeing the struggle of common people is where Tyler Perry, I feel like he excels. And I feel like that's what's garnered him such a wide audience. But I think doing something that feels more days of our lives. live as dealing with like the top one percent um you get because you get that a little bit of that that one percent with uh the people at the top with the business and the and the company and the wife working away up to the top and like oh i went to harvard and then you have the more

Starting point is 00:07:35 common uh 99 percent or stuff with with chris and with tyler perry's character but i feel like never neither one of them goes deep enough into the heart of what the the root of everything is to really get you super invested i think it gives you just enough to understand where everybody's coming from but not enough to get your heart attached I can't even speak for

Starting point is 00:07:56 for everybody because I'm sure maybe there's some people out there like yeah like this really hit me this is like really like my bread and butter my like touch me at home but I don't for some I don't know what it was and I found myself at the beginning of the movie

Starting point is 00:08:09 having a hard time like kind of locking in because I felt like it was super exposition heavy rather than getting into like it was like setting up the the chest pieces without giving us an anchor point to kind of latch on to. I don't want to speak for you. I don't know if you felt that or if you were just kind of in it from the start. But I think once we start to get to the stuff at the end,

Starting point is 00:08:34 we finally see why Andrea is the way that she is and we talk more about the relationship with the father. I feel like it's already a little too late at that point because we've seen her just be so monstrous and so mean the entire movie. It felt like, I don't know, we put. characters and archetypes and we simplify them for the needs of the plot rather than showing them three dimensionally as people and not to say that people like injury and chris don't exist but

Starting point is 00:09:01 i feel like if we see why they're in love in the first place and then see their division because we skip over their wedding entirely and then we jump for four years and then they're already separated and then she's just mean to him the entire time and he's just hopeful and wants to build its business up and then you see all the things like oh well you're always like trying to get get rich quick and like we don't see any of that we don't see the nuances of your relationship hell we don't even get to see him be a dad for any of the films I feel like there's just some semblance of of heart missing amongst the the drama of the interplay of the three stories that are going on not to mention the Tyler Perry and Tamagri P. Hansen were barely in the movie and they kind of

Starting point is 00:09:44 felt like afterthoughts with the other two plots I don't want to harp on the movie on the negative. So I'll say some positives. Again, Kathy Bates and Alphrio Woodward were great in their performances. Tarragia B. Hanson was really funny. And I like the dichotomy or the relationship between Chris and Ben. I think they had an interesting interplay with them being business partners, one of them kind of being more cynical and the other one being carrying enough hope for the both of them. I would have liked to see more of that to see. how they got to this point why their partners in the first place but again I think just for what we established

Starting point is 00:10:27 I did enjoy it for what it was Greg I was just listening I'm not gonna say I think you're I guess I take go I was I'm at a weird point where I find my and I've actually not a weird point because I've kind of had it since we even started watching with like diary of a mad black woman because I've heard so much about Tyler Perry for years without ever seeing a single thing he's made so I've been so fast I'm under the and that's the thing with why did I get married that was the first time no I would say I happen as little girls too where I was a very much I lost awareness that Tyler Perry made the movie

Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah, and then I found myself kind of wondering about like certain choices or things he was going through in this movie. So like even the lie, the very, you know, the messaging part, one of the messaging parts when when the C-O-O lady, Robin, is telling, nope, that's Robin. Robin Givens is the actress. Affie is the character. who's and then andrea's the the bad sister yeah yeah Andrea Andrea okay Abby is like it's sisters like you who give us a bad look and I'm going is that a thing that I don't know about like black women who sleep their way to the top is that a thing I'm not aware I was like I know the cliche of women but is it something specifically about black women that's a stereotype

Starting point is 00:12:09 that we are targeting right now I think it's a thing about people that are um what's the word that opportunistic but i think they mean sisters by black women or just women well they meant they meant black women as well i think that you know and obviously i'm black women so i can't speak too heavily on this but is uh there are people within the black community that we kind of had talked about this before we started filming um about assimilating to positions of power or and just so happened in this movie that power has to be a white man who holds all this you know notoriety within the position that he's in so I think him being white on top of being powerful she wanted like a taste of that coupled with her own trauma because her father left

Starting point is 00:13:06 and like okay that's the only way you can have a good life you know if you stick to the the person who is willing to leave uh at least that was my take away from it so i think that you know maybe there comes like a negative connotation with that and you know again i'm not a block one myself so i can't speak too heavily on that so if you guys have more insight into that please like let us know in the comments but i think that's kind of what i was getting from that well you see i think there's a lot of as much as some stuff can be very on the nose there's other parts when it comes to a little bit more of the racial elements here that they're commenting on that

Starting point is 00:13:44 I don't know if the right word is subtle but it's not as on the nose I would say and if you look at it like right before the wedding Andrea is is saying the Kathy Bates character Charlotte is only doing this because to look good to tell her friends it's like and then you see what unfolds

Starting point is 00:14:05 and you're like oh Kathy Bates is not that person who she who she presumed her to be but she's sleeping with a man who probably has points of views like that right you know who will like sleep with the black woman take advantage of the black woman when it comes time i'm like no i'm not going to be seen with a woman like you in public yeah right the undertone's were there so there is like a self racism i think she kind of harsh punishment form or something there happening that i'm not sure what she really had i don't know if it's self racism what is the thing that i'm talking about

Starting point is 00:14:33 andrews and yeah yeah i'm like i definitely felt that thing would then be so wrong but then sleep with the man who would be that thing you know no i i definitely felt those tones because she like didn't have any empathy for her mother didn't have any empathy for her sister and like oh you guys were just like the the undertones of they were like you guys were the struggling black people and i'm here to to lift myself up and then attach myself to power yeah so there was white power white power there's definitely some of that in there for sure and you're like no he he loves me he will he sees me for what i am i have a child with him that's secures my safety just for that not to really mean anything in the end um so that's what i think

Starting point is 00:15:15 they were getting out with that and you know like just it opens up a whole other can of conversations but you know bad it does exist in our real world and it's it's it's sad well this is me i was kind of wondering more of like what he was going for and i think i think there's just some really good scenes in here like okay to give you a little bit more the benefit of the doubt too And maybe there is a bit of, um, of me wanting to really like it just because I feel like, hmm, do I feel the pressure to really like it? Kind of? No, not really.

Starting point is 00:15:52 Not really. I'm just kind of wondering, I want to be honest with myself first. I feel like I've been harsh around it than you have. Well, yeah. I mean, but I also don't want to just seem like I'm being like, because you're not wrong. Like there's a plenty of shortcomings. I feel like the movie has of things not being as fleshed out as, as they really, could be like you got fucking homeless nick in here uh you know he was like an

Starting point is 00:16:12 after five it's like christmas movie character like yeah i'm not really sure what he's doing it's so it's a strange it's a strange part of the film for sure uh again like those soap opera elements feel very very very very soap opera and i did restrain from making jokes in that certain times because i was like i just wait till the end to talk about but yeah there were definitely times where i was like oh god this is like pretty cheesy especially by the pool like did you love her because i wanted to get i wanted to like see if i could take in the drama still and not get in the way of my own because that's something that i've been doing too is knowing when i'm trying to be aware of when i i get frustrated when i'm in conversation with people who are obviously using humor as a way to hide what they're really

Starting point is 00:16:58 feeling and it's caused me to be aware of like oh i'm frustrated by that because i do that sometimes so i'm trying to be aware of like when i'm when i'm filming and using humor to hide like when i'm really feeling something so i was trying to see if i really feel something but i really i thought that was like really cheesy and the and the jillian car right character like you know it's i like that they they bother to do something with the character but i think in like this was one of the cases where it seems like you need a longer thing and i do feel like the movie's kind of missing like a pulse to it it's it's sort of like this one line in terms of like an overall piece it doesn't really have like an up and down or it really feels like it's building to

Starting point is 00:17:39 something or whatever you know like and why did i get married when we're watching that not that it's like i'm the masterpiece of all masterpieces but that was one of the impressive parts about the film it's like in the first half of it everything's really fun but you're like but i feel like something terrible is around the corner and it is and it doesn't stop and this was something where it didn't really feel like it was building to something it was kind of it was a little bit flat in the overall like pace of it but that wasn't it didn't mean it didn't have like some really great scenes like and a lot of it is on alfred wood and kathy bay it's like when when um uh andria is really laying into her mom and alfred woodard's not when if i feel like a typical movie

Starting point is 00:18:21 would probably be like this is when the mom's going to say some fucking shit and they're going to have like a real heart to heart here just like her taking in the hurt and not insulting back fighting back putting her daughter down she's like everything about the subtext and nuance of what alfred woodard's going through of like this level of hurt i was so impressed with that scene even including with the way it was written and directed and acted so i just think there's like so many moments in here that i thought were really were at the end of the day really great scenes even if a lot of the overall experiences of home like yeah definitely could use like something that tie parry would hate to have anyone tom a rewrite like it could use a

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Starting point is 00:22:06 And yes, I use that code myself. So you can hydrate smarter, you can feel better. And hopefully, just like me, you'll feel the difference. I would say, yeah. Yeah, I feel like it may be a combination of having too many characters. and not enough to do and it's interesting that this movie came out the same year as why did I get married

Starting point is 00:22:26 because I feel like that title felt very relevant and was like the I don't know if this is the right word but like it made sense for that movie I don't know why this movie is called the family that prays because it never I guess we like really think about it like sure but I feel like

Starting point is 00:22:43 it's more of an abstract title where why did I get married is like the perfect thing that encapsulates what that movie is and the questions that it's posing and you see that the different variations of what that question means over the course of these four couples relationships and I feel like when it comes to

Starting point is 00:22:59 matters of the heart, when it comes to love, when it comes to struggle in the dynamic that's where he excels but this felt like it felt like drama I felt like he was trying to make a series into a film

Starting point is 00:23:14 without really understanding what makes the heart accessible in the first place and I mean and as we're watching made me curious because I know that Tyler Perry takes a lot of pride on you know the amount of of products he puts out you know like look at all these scripts look at all these scripts that I wrote in like four days that's what I mean that's the Tyler Perry I knew before I watched anything yeah and it makes me wonder like okay what's his writing and directing style because the thing I will say about this you know this is definitely different from the other work that we've seen in the sense that it's not a

Starting point is 00:23:49 about the bottom line street block struggle. It wasn't, there was no lawyers in this movie for when I remember. That it is inconsistency. There's a lot of lawyering in those films. So, you know, it's different in that regard. So I'll give Tyler Perry props for having a semblance of diversity. But for me, this one just did not work as well, even though I am able to recognize that there are positive. within the performance

Starting point is 00:24:20 and I think on the surface the types of relationships we're looking to explore could be enriched had it been a stronger script. You see, there's moments that I just like how it got me

Starting point is 00:24:33 to think about some stuff that I was surprised to that that this movie is making me think about. Like how I initially just believed Andrea at the wedding and that Kathy Bates is racist in some way.

Starting point is 00:24:47 I'm like, oh shit, I really just believed it for some reason. And the flippoor of, it's not an abusive husband this time, it's an emotionally abusive ass wife. Yeah, that is different. And I don't, we don't really see that a lot. And a lot of, we've seen a lot of movies where it's like the emotionally abused wife and you want her to grow some strength, but you're never like, come on, man, grow a pair.

Starting point is 00:25:16 but you do that when it's a guy sometimes you're like come on man grow bare like stand up so I like that it was bringing that out of like the slap when he slaps her you know like you said something like no weak man would ever do that and then my mind was going

Starting point is 00:25:32 I don't know I found it feel like I've never slapped a woman like that I've never a fucking way no even if my wife did something terrible like to that degree I just I couldn't she'd murder me I know her too well She would win. She would win. I'm really bad.

Starting point is 00:25:50 So. But my point is, in this, with these people, though, with these characters, I'm going, she's kind of like the worst person. If the gender's were flipped, I don't feel like it'd be a problem with this one slap, you know? Like, yeah, all this stuff, you feel like all the stuff is built up to it. And like, okay. It's like, they people say, like, there's not. I think there's a Bill Burb bit.

Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah, there is. There's a Bill Burb pitch about it. About it. Like, the people say there's no reason to slap. woman like there's no reason but then you watch something like I don't know just kind of had a comment you know I understand what you what you mean like if if I if there's a guy who was just demeaning to his wife and built up all of this yeah like I understand generally yes it's like it's so much more dangerous for a man to be for a woman to be around a man I still up her over the

Starting point is 00:26:41 counter I know yeah yeah I got pretty funny man it's backhanded her he did but she like flew over the counter. Yeah, man, that was wild. But I was surprised. It was a very strange moment for me. I was shook if because I was like, oh, I didn't expect him to go to take that route. And it was weird because she was so demeaning to him over the course of the entire film. And I never really got the sense that he was like battered or like locked over confidence.

Starting point is 00:27:12 This is like, oh, whoa, but I love my wife and I want to get my business to go for. I'm sorry, baby. No, no, he's kind of dumb. Like, there are, and I, I know there's men who are in relationships where usually, if a relationship is toxic, both parties are involved in some way of both being abusive to each other. However, we do know that there's a lot of times, there's, you know, predominantly it's the man who's abusive to the woman. And then it's, and there are cases where the woman is predominantly the abusive one to the man. Right. and I don't know what that's like

Starting point is 00:27:47 and I don't know any men who have I don't know any men like specifically who have been in something like that bad so I don't know what a realistic portrayal of that is are they just like Chris to be like oh no she's upstairs with William and they're clearly his wife's crying and everyone's like she's upstairs of William I love her

Starting point is 00:28:09 you know it seems super obvious but what I I will say that I think that kind of got me thinking like it did you is the fact that they were in a relationship where clearly the, obviously he's on the bottom level. She works very closely to the top. She's in a position of power within their relationship. She's the breadwinner, but she's only in that position because she is also looking up to somebody within a more traditional dynamic of the man having more power and more resources. Right. So because of that, she feels in bold. to disrespect her husband

Starting point is 00:28:45 because she feels like she has the leverage within their relationship. I would have liked to have seen one, how it got to that point and actually how he felt about that because he just seemed okay with it the entire time.

Starting point is 00:28:57 And he's like, well, because she's, you know, she makes more money. And like, maybe, they implied that he's had many failures and he's just like been a massive dreamer the entire time. But you never really get to see their relationship during that point.

Starting point is 00:29:11 You just see the aftermath which you know if you're hearing something it doesn't hold as much weight as if you were seeing it so you just seems like you're just being mean to him for no reason yeah you know and i think the reason why the expectation to want to experience that is because we've seen tyler perry's movies explore something similar and pay it off or explore it well yeah and that's why it's like huh it's kind of like falling on the shorter because you know abuse and relationships family dynamics community, religion, or faith, I would say. Like, these are all very much in, like, all the movies. And we've seen them do a really good job. And especially in the last couple. So to see this fall on the shorter side, it feels like a little bit of a backtrack in terms of, like, the growth that it was happening in the executions. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:04 And it's interesting that this movie is called The Family That Praise, because it would imply it's like a very heavily Christian-focused film, but it's really not. Has one scene of the church. Is it a family that prays with an E or a Y? It's with an E. Oh, with the E. Okay. Like family that pray is like praying on. Okay.

Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. Okay. Fair. Okay. These aren't like actually, is this better. Is this better reviewed than why did I get married? No way, dude.

Starting point is 00:30:30 If it is, that's kind of crazy. It's because Kathy Bates is it. And she was great. Oh, my God. Okay. The audience scores. But it's the same amount of reviews.

Starting point is 00:30:42 That's so. interesting for the critics it's the same damage the same amount of reviews moral uprightness yeah that is a great way to do it yeah yeah soap opera all right uh well i'm good man i mean i i i still yeah no there's no way it's better than why did i get married why did i get married it's like it was great chef's kiss to me definitely tyler parr's one asked me in an interview like What's on the great watch recently? Honestly, I said it's like, I was yesterday at the Multicot.

Starting point is 00:31:16 Oh, that's true. And I was doing an interview. I said, this is a movie called The Family That Praise. I think it's a great film. Yeah. Why did I get married? I mean, why did I get married? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:27 Freaking A. Well, that's, it was definitely an interesting experience. I don't know what the next movie we're watching is, but I'm excited. I'm still, you know, into this Tyler Perry universe. I want to see what else he has coming down the pipeline. But I think that'll be up. It for us today, guys. Thank you so much for watching.

Starting point is 00:31:45 And we'll see in the next one. Duceus. I'm sinking. Josh Asana. You know, while the family that prays hints at something a bit more sinister about nefarious families. Cannibalism. That is what Josh's family is all about. Yep.

Starting point is 00:32:14 Cannibalism. They're the family that truly praise. People just don't understand you guys. This is part of your culture. Because they are the family of predators. Oh. And we, we civilization are prey to Josh Osano's crazy, messed up cannibalistic family. It's messed up, dude.

Starting point is 00:32:33 I don't want to end up between your teeth. I wouldn't, but I would want to end up between you and your parents. at a dinner table. Yes. Because I would love to be there for a cannibalistic meal once in a lifetime opportunity.

Starting point is 00:32:49 You could be one of those sushi girls and they just eat human remains off of your body. And you leave the sushi there. Yeah, and you leave the sushi underneath and it remains for me. Touch the sushi. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:00 Oh my God, that would be such a cool dinner. You can have some delicious sushi maybe later that's a little bloodstained but otherwise perfectly fine and you guys can enjoy. I have sushi. I'm a vegetarian. I only eat.

Starting point is 00:33:11 plants and human flesh. They're all just avocado rolls, just avocado cucumber rolls. I go for that. Yeah, why not? But, you know, not you. I understand that you don't need any vegetables. You're going to get me hungry for some gluteous maximus right now. Yeah, man, for a good quadricep.

Starting point is 00:33:27 Let me chomp on that. Ooh, who's got the juiciest bum? We might be the influencers, but you're the one influencing right now. I've got a whole new lifestyle to embrace. I love you, Josh. You're looking tasty. It's one thing to be cannibals, but an earth thing to be gay.

Starting point is 00:33:47 Wow. I went too far.

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