The Reel Rejects - V FOR VENDETTA (2005) MOVIE REVIEW!! Remember, Remember... the 5th of November!

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Ladies and gentlemen, we just watched V for Vendetta. We did, we did it. I understood it. I understood every single nuance. Ask me anything, G. Emily, as he was first doing the Vendetta. the V alliteration at the beginning. Sure.

Starting point is 00:02:03 I was like, oh, shit, no, don't let it happen again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just get the gist of what he's implied. It literally is like watching. And it's a fun, like it's weird. It's like, you know, when you're here and the lights are on and you've got to, you know, be sharp, like there's a certain, like, daunting nature to that. But it does take on this quality like you're at a Shakespeare play or something like that. We're like, okay, if I really lock in and I really focus up, I can, you know,

Starting point is 00:02:30 get yeah i can kind of have fun you know being enlightened to all the the you know interesting nature of the language itself but also i can sort of pick out my my concern was that that was going to be the dialogue of the entire movie the entire time and i was like oh my god this is going to be a headache yeah it makes me wonder if if it maybe isn't the book and in the movie they're just like we're going to do this like up top and then yeah we're going to kind of vary it up yeah yeah i thought it was a beautiful john i mean what did you think of the movie man i really enjoyed this i mean you know certainly it it it i you know alan more is like famous for hating any attempt at at acknowledging any of his

Starting point is 00:03:10 comic book work but uh for what this is and you know it's like we've sat here for the past two hours you know remarking on like it's kind of spooky how much more relevant this feels now Alan, more relevant. A, ha, ha, ha, ten tended pun. And, you know, by the time, when we would have been seeing this, you know, the first time, I feel like, yeah, like, I feel like 15-year-old us would have been, or whatever age, would have been able to pick out at least some of the stuff.

Starting point is 00:03:41 I didn't even pay attention at school. So, like, there was no way my, like, I didn't really feel like I started educating myself on things until I was, like, 18. Sure, like, after school. I was like, I'm going to become self-educating. I have to leave school and you're like, I want to get more knowledge. So I would, I know for sure I wouldn't have understood like Jack about what any of this was even talking about. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:02 I would be like, this is London today. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this is London, right? Yeah, this is London today. No, I mean, it is spooky. Look at that grasshopper. Oh, what's up? What's up cricket?

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Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah, I mean, you know, there are more enlightened folks than me who could probably really break down a movie like this. But I do think it does an admirable job without having read the source material and from what I understand and from every time I've thumbed it and any Allen Moore joint, you know, they do seem very much like the complete conversions between like a literary, novel and also graphic art. So, like, this, yeah, watching this here, I was like, there are certainly points where you can tell, like, okay, this must have been truncated. Certain events will happen sort of back to back, basically, like, oh, here's a new, you know, wrinkle, or here's a new problem, and then here's somebody we've got to talk to, and in the next scene, we're dealing with that.

Starting point is 00:05:11 So, you know, there are things you can tell had to probably be heavily adapted for this. However, being, you know, for what this is, I found this quite gripping. time around it. I mean, yeah, at least I thought did a nice job of presenting you with a pretty dizzing and pretty thorough, you know, landscape of unrest, of atrocity and things that, yes, reflect versions of our own world. And certainly, like I said, this feels spookier now because, you know, the Supreme Chancellor guy certainly obviously is supposed to make you think of Hitler and Nazis and various other fascist leaders, but, you know, the way that

Starting point is 00:05:55 certainly media and I don't know, the performance of media and the warping of fact, like, you know, the fascism side's a little starship troopersy. A little bit. Yeah, yeah, it's certainly like the most extreme. You got to know what you look like.

Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, yeah. You guys are evil. Like, you're the, you're evil. You know, you gotta know, like, this is totally Naziism, right? Like, you can see that. Yeah, you're a full-blown fascist. You look like freaking the dark side of Star Wars. Yeah, like you literally broaching on that. Yeah, he's at his podium and you're seeing like those rally images.

Starting point is 00:06:30 But it is that thing of, yeah, you live a little more. And too, I mean, our current political time, I would say, certainly casts very stark light on the concepts they're getting at here, which is, yeah, you know, the manipulation of information or lack thereof. And, you know, the means of the powers that be to always be. 10 steps ahead, you know, in the room where anything happens, ready to clean it up and fix it up in the way that they, benefits them the most. And, yeah, it's poison in the hospitals and it's disinformation and, you know, punishing, like, you know, maiming in the schools and manipulating and, you know, the prisons, like, it's all that. It's the religion. It's all the, the leading, you know, facets of society, you know, being corrupted and perverted and used

Starting point is 00:07:18 as means for the powerful to yeah you know orchestrate their selfish desires and certainly like i thought this did a nice job of at least presenting itself in a way that certainly you know asked you to keep up and you know felt quite literary even though i know that it does have a lot of you know pretty enjoyable blockbuster tropes and stuff and you know action movie elements and it does make me want to sit and reflect a bit because it does exist on that razor's edge between like, damn, you know, I mean, revolutionary action is something that often comes at the price of physical, you know, violence, physical actions.

Starting point is 00:07:58 And, you know, it, you've made that remark early on of like, this feels so triumphant in one way and it feels like we are fighting for, or the fight being presented is for something righteous. But also, like, you know, buildings are blowing up and people are being killed. And it does, it just asks an interesting set of philosophical and moral questions because you know, you think to yourself, were we to reach this fascist hellscape of a future, you know, what would it take to change that? And is anything you can do within the bounds of, you know, the system that has been imposed upon you? Is there anything you can do within that

Starting point is 00:08:35 to, you know, enact a real change? Or do you need to, you know, resort to, you know, what has a line in a song i heard once said like you know the the body doesn't hear the body will feel for sure and it's like when you can't appeal to words and ideas you need action and that's also about the interplay between both because it's yeah it's the story it's the symbol it's something greater than just a man it's something incorruptible it's the idea we can all strive toward yeah it's like there's like there's people more enlightened than me you could tell you if this is like a good adaptation of the source material or if it's a really you know true enlightened or thoughtful treatise on its themes, but I thought for this experience,

Starting point is 00:09:18 it was both thrilling and fascinating and sort of eerily reflective and equal measure. What did you think now that I've spoken for, you know, ever? For ever. For ever. For veer. If you pronounce V, V is a singular letter, but V in terms of pronunciation backwards would be YV. V. Y, V, making it full circle. It's all, it's pronounced five.

Starting point is 00:09:43 i am curious to know what the number five actually means although in numerology well like what the significance is because there's so much emphasis placed clearly like with the v and the five and i don't know november the fifth all these like um things that correlate uh john i'd become a note person notepad person take it like i don't like i don't like to write during a movie but sometimes when we're talking i'm like oh yeah i forget stuff and so i try to write some stuff down so i got a few things that maybe we can touch on yeah first off like my general thoughts i think this i thought this was an amazing movie amazing there's like a few things here or there of course that are like okay it's a little coincidence even though you're a movie all about like

Starting point is 00:10:32 not coincidences some stuff feels very coincidental specifically the corner thing that's the only part of it that i was like this is very very coincidental and uh the passage of time i actually thought was done really well yeah what i love though is that this is easily a movie or a story that could have been bogged down just so much in its themes and ideas however they still managed to keep it very character driven like so much of this is about the character arcs of specifically nally portman's evy and v like v becoming a person who was able to find love again uh was a beautiful story for him and then for her someone who is um you know represent representative of what v talks about someone who has been put all her things that she really wants has been pushed away by fear

Starting point is 00:11:24 what happened with her parents traumatized her so she did not take action she was just a you know another complacent citizen of this world and watching her come into a form of fearlessness being stripped down, reborn, into someone who is able to fulfill ultimately, like the one to pull the lever is like she's honoring her parents. You know, I thought that was so beautiful what they did with her. And I like how they still manage to talk about a lot whilst making sure that they were keeping the narrative of our characters very much alive. I remember a little thing, actually, now that it just popped into my head. This is one of those movies that, and you could kind of see if I'm just watching it that was very much mismarketed because it looks like an

Starting point is 00:12:09 action like from the out even cut in a pop to my head because I'm looking at the genre that amazon has elicited as and this is action and suspense and I'm like I want to call that like there's like action it like there's like a few action scenes but but the action scenes are I wouldn't call this an action movie I would say there's action in it but I wouldn't call this an action movie and I think this movie was marketed as like the wichowski's uh people behind the matrix an action film It's like a, yeah, it's more like a dystopian political thriller with action. 100%. It's way more a political thriller than any other.

Starting point is 00:12:43 I would say that's the top genre for this movie. But you can't really blockbuster market heavy dad unless you're like Christopher Nolan or something like that. Christopher Nolan's view for Vendetta. Let's go. I mean, uh, we're kind of just hopping around a little bit here. I got to Tao Tehranism. Security versus Freedom. What is heroism?

Starting point is 00:13:01 Revenge versus justice. Media control. hope in a rebellion yeah I mean we've talked a lot about these movies that tend to cover these subjects I felt like the burrito of it all was wrapped in a really nice tortilla you know well you held it all together

Starting point is 00:13:19 pretty well all the ingredients I would say well and I feel like a movie like this probably ought to make you feel a bit uncomfortable with both as it asks you to start untangling where you might fall into this you know conversation like it does beg you to entertain some difficult questions and yeah like i don't know it's political aspirations are very much like part of the discussion of the story and it's very 1984 and other things and yeah it's like i feel like we've seen movies like not a movie like this but in aspiring to similar ideals or similar themes but yeah and not to say it's bad when this happens but yeah like that that have similar ideas but aren't really going to make it

Starting point is 00:14:03 make that like the main focus of the you know the struggle and the the question of the text itself i think the part that felt surprisingly topical was more so to me than the movie contagion which which i think is very much like oh that is how it went down in real life that i so while that movie it was just following like the protocol measures of what happens and what is likelihood what surprised me the most was how this story um had sort of this weaponization or using a virus as a means to control the people. That was the part of it that surprised me as feeling surprisingly relevant closer to our time than when this movie actually came out. Yeah. And establishing like governance on the government or the pharmaceutical

Starting point is 00:14:52 corporations, this intermingling again of, of, you know, science and politics and the economy. and the ability to when you with our leaders by do you leading by fear or leading by hope and how this government controls by fear and how you know there's always that comparison of america being you know linked to like oh it's like the roman empire but how the system does crumble from within and that it's what is the what is the j f k quote don't ask what your country ask not what your country can do for ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Yeah. And I love that line about like the government shouldn't, you shouldn't fear the government. People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people. Because it should be about serving the people. And also how the rich do politically control things and all these like different versions of systematic control all the way down to like the religions as well, which was I felt like a bold maneuver of this film. Some of this stuff, yeah, sure feels like it could have perhaps been a little bit more flushed out as opposed to like just

Starting point is 00:16:00 inserting it um but but even that you know like this is really about embracing one's own beliefs and instead of just conforming to like they watch like it's literally like a society being brainwashed by what the higher-ups are saying from government to media to church all these things that are very controversial stuff. But it is the, all under the disguise, that's why about security versus freedom, all under the disguise of security versus freedom. Like, this is how we protect you. This is how we keep you safe. And freedom does not exactly equate to just like the purge where you can do whatever the hell you want. However, there is a way of controlling in a way that is under the illusion of protection.

Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah. As well as the themes talking about heroism, you know, like the revenge versus justice part is very interesting to me because he's presenting it not from a personal angle. He's presenting it as something for the people, V, and then you find out like how personal this is for him, especially for the very specific people

Starting point is 00:17:14 he's trying to take down. But then again, it's like, well, usually if you're someone involved in said revolution, you are a victim of personal circumstances. that's where it has to start yeah yeah that's how you know it's meaningful to the people involved because they know the pain and so there's nothing wrong with having it be but at the same time you're like how much i like i liked how the movie kind of made you question is is this really for the people and what's better for the people what v's going for or is this just a personal revenge

Starting point is 00:17:42 mission yeah is this is this just an attempt to cause chaos or is this really for some greater purpose some greater ideal or conviction yeah at the end of the day beyond all the flowery language and the you know grandstanding yeah the media control stuff is very frightening to me well that and just the the their depiction of like the way all the different you know that powerful figures in any sort of system that you know heavily governs or facilitates society like all those people sort of getting together behind closed doors can be an incredibly nefarious thing when you realize like oh once you get to the top of you know society you can kind of use all these factions to your you know to whatever ends you desire you know

Starting point is 00:18:28 you can introduce a virus in the hospitals then you can use the prisons to test out your miracle cure that you'll use to you know that you'll hoard and then use to increase your own security and your own wealth and then you know praying on people through religious uh doctrine and you know coordinating your messages in one way or another to kind of corral everybody onto the track that you want them and it does make you at least like zoom out and get a little paranoid and then how the media yeah like uh intersects all of that and that whole thing about like you can tell when she's reading a story she knows isn't true or you know yeah the way that that one guy said something about like you know it's our job to report the truth but it's the government's job to give us the

Starting point is 00:19:11 facts or whatever and and you know the constant demonstration of the fact that even a fact close to reality might be heavily altered and, you know, sweetened for, you know, the greater end of whatever governing body, this, you know, fascist state as we see it here. Reject Nation, the election is upon us. And as you know, the news can be very overwhelming. Finding the truth can be even tougher. That's why continuing this partnership with Straight Arrow News is more necessary than ever. Straight Arrow News is a trusted source for balanced, fact-based reporting. S.A.N. was actually awarded the certified balance status by all sides, the leading media bias rating service. The certification means SAN underwent a rigorous, independent audit to ensure their news remains genuinely centered, free from partisan lean.

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Starting point is 00:21:45 would feel like that's probably the most prevalent one throughout the most unifying and it kind of maps over everything it's sort of like the the physical nature of what this is versus yeah the story on top of it yeah and it's like even with the narration that they're specifically choosing for um natalie portman because it gets you to think about certain historical figures you know like obvious ones that are people who have known forever even if you don't know their whole stories like Abraham Lincoln Martin Luther King mother Teresa like the ideas that they stood for and what they and especially for people like Martin Luther King and Lincoln who like died in pursuit of a greater goal for the people those ideas have really gestated and live long

Starting point is 00:22:31 and have been an inspirational hope tales versus like oh I but the man who they really are you know who were they really yeah well and the the power that you know martyrdom can give a message and yeah the the creation of the idea of a person beyond just yeah the actual human that they might be yeah the yeah because that's the thing is like nowadays we all know like oh you know martin luther king or whoever you know had his vices and had his uh you know peccadillo's just like anybody else and yet we remember the message and and and you know we ignore certain other parts of his journey of philosophy and whatnot.

Starting point is 00:23:11 But yeah, it's like society collectively sort of picks and chooses. It's all like a sort of spiritual game of telephone in a sense. It's like we can all see this person. We can all hear the message, but it all gets distilled down into the legend that lives on.

Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah, well, you can't even quite, because so much of the oppression here was like so extreme, you know, the oppression of homosexuality, religions. Like, you have to have this belief, literally living under like a Hitler kind of ruling. Yeah. And we will prescribe you, yeah, your life, your faith, the acceptable activities you can engage in.

Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, communist society. It's very, fascist society. It's very ugly. Fascist, that's what I just said. I mean, some people will jump in the comments and be like, no, it's also a company. Not the same thing. No. We're saying a lot of words.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. And not to say that any system of govern cannot go to an extreme and become oppressive because certainly. Well, this is what I'm talking about. It's like I like the idea of doing this movie and I didn't know he's going to talk about all these things. But what I really like about this is that's kind of the point. And even for people like on a personal level on our position, we are not a political channel by any stretch. You know, politics are kind of in everything that's sort of my belief is that there's politics and everything yeah and whether we want to acknowledge it or not um there really there really is everything

Starting point is 00:24:43 exists within the environment that we all live in so like yeah every product that we have or consume is somehow politically agended in whatever way ideas attached to it yeah and it's like and what is politics it's not just you know red versus blue it's not just left versus right it there's politics are a whole a wide array of things the valley of nuance but with these kind of subject matters this is something we would ever do like a dedicated video on this is not what real rejects does but that's part of this story i think that they acknowledge is you can't even like question these things you can't even talk about these things and in the in this society they've yeah in the society they've painted you can't do it um but with that oppression that passion and and like the

Starting point is 00:25:28 the the the desire to rebel only gets stronger and so having a movie that a lot that justates this kind of conversation it's like it is a provis provocative movie in that regard that gets you to actually think about these things it's like a movie that's in the disguise of a blockbuster you know um yeah it's got like the means to do blockbuster stuff and to and to convey its message it's it's like very physical revolutionary message to the scale that that speaks to yeah well i and and uh i like how v's not perfect you know like he he admits to his own faults that you do kind of question the methodology like you even with the whole Natalie Portman thing and putting her through the trials that he went through, like a very cliff notes version of what he went through.

Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah. It's still like, I don't know, man. It's a little messed up. Yeah. It's pretty extreme version of doing this too. And it's, but it's fascinating because you do sit there

Starting point is 00:26:25 and you're like, this is, you are, you're torturing this person. Yeah. This is terrible. And then you kind of question the love relationship

Starting point is 00:26:31 that forms with them because you're like, well, is this like some type of stockhold syndrome thing that's going up? Yeah. But then on top of that, you're like, well, if you're talking about toppling all of society and starting a completely new world based off of this, like, it's so unprecedented that you're like, well, I guess you would have to test somebody to like beyond beyond the extreme of their limits to be absolutely sure that they're willing, like, you know, it's no small feat to go take any kind of physical action, let alone the amount of like crazy, you know, explosive. stuff on display here.

Starting point is 00:27:10 And these are all subjects too that I am not a fan of like the super tribalistic way of thinking which is like you're either this camp or that camp you're either this thought or that thought

Starting point is 00:27:21 I like to explore like the ideas of thoughts you know there's this is a YouTube channel called Jubilee that's been really popping off lately because they'll do this thing of like liberal guy versus 20 Republicans

Starting point is 00:27:35 in a debate And then they just did one with like Ben Shapiro versus a bunch of liberals, you know, and I like to hear, but I like to hear the debates and I like to hear both sides and not just see. Sometimes it turns into like a real debate and a real conversation versus solely just, you know, win, win, win. People trying to dunk on each other instead of actually discussing the issues. Yeah. And it's it's like what I saw kind of happen with something that we covered recently, you know, or I'll just use me as an example. Like we could love like a. a billion Marvel things, right? And then the second you don't like marvels, it's like, oh, you must be a sexist. Like a lot of people, not everyone, but a lot of people just suddenly conclude this. Like, you must not like women starring in superhero movies, even though you've recommended a bunch. No, now you're like a sexist in cell.

Starting point is 00:28:23 Like a lot of people draw that conclusion. It's a very tribalistic way of thinking that I'm just not a fan of, of like, you know, what you mean? I just, you have to, I have to like everything then, you know, or. But also, if you do like certain things, then you're just. just, you know, the blue-haired, quote, feminist meme or whatever, extreme, you know, caricature version of that. Yeah, because I don't, it's like at the end of the day, like,

Starting point is 00:28:44 I do feel like government is good. It doesn't mean, it's always good. I think government is not, like, it's a part of how we keep society sort of intact. Some sort of collective agreed upon means of, yeah, of, yeah. All of us getting by and setting up a few ground rules seems like a positive endeavor for society. It's the foundation of a society, yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:05 And then while this takes place, Britain so much in America feels like yeah you hate America you know what I mean like it's just so much about like everything about what's wrong like like like the like how America is what it was here it just seems so much about like this country there's is awful there's you know bitterness and there and there is but I acknowledge you got to acknowledge problems in order to find solutions you got to deal with truths you got to deal with reality like I understand that and And at the same time, like sometimes the other side can feel like they just ignore all the terrible things. That's the part of America that I actually, that gets me worried the most when we do the Roman Empire, what you call it?

Starting point is 00:29:50 The connection or the, sorry, I know, I don't. I'm not sounding smart right at all. But the correlation between that is when the entire society starts to feel like, oh, like everything about America is bad. is bad and and that's where I think um it's another one of those tribalist things that happens where yeah you have you'll have yeah one ideology goes this is how we make the thing great and these are you know our our impassioned convictions and then the other side goes well wait a minute though like half that stuff seems kind of toxic for a good amount of the people here and then yeah and then yeah it becomes like no we're gonna yeah it becomes this battle between like this is what's

Starting point is 00:30:35 great and we got to strive for that versus no this is terrible we got to not do that you know and it's hard to rectify because like the thing is in a movie like this i have to imagine that a lot of people far enough to the right could look at the you know the the chancellor and just see a leader from the opposite side from the left as that totalitarian fascist you know iron hand and then somebody on the left could see the exact same you know depiction and read that as all as somebody on the far right, which, you know, obviously fascism being literally far right of the spectrum. But even so, you know, people will transcribe those things onto or those beliefs onto any kind of set of circumstances depending on conviction. And conviction is, that's like the hardest thing.

Starting point is 00:31:22 Because yeah, it's like you sit and you look around at the country and you're like, yeah, we should all be able to like acknowledge that certain things aren't right and certain abuses are happening. and those probably shouldn't be happening. Absolutely. And we should all be able to unpack that. And yet it seems like, yeah, there's just, again, this divisive tribalism that only seems to bore the chasms deeper. Yeah. And that's how I feel like the crumbling from within really is forming because it seems like both sides of the spectrum think just terribly about.

Starting point is 00:32:00 America without acknowledging like, there's actually like some really great things about America as well. The whole thing is, I think we've got to be like, it's like being in a relationship. You know, the only way you make a relationship work is, yes, will you have problems? We have conflicts. Of course. Other things got to uproot. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:32:17 At the same time, it's like, but you also got to be aware of like, what's good about it and the appreciation for those things. And I think too, media doesn't help with that. Like the way how media has become doesn't ever feel like true journalism. I could turn on CNN and I get a very one side of the story. I could turn on Fox News, you get very one side of story. And it is very much about instilling fear, you know? Well, yeah, and they're all under pressure to have ratings and to have the most eyeballs

Starting point is 00:32:43 and to grab you and to use, you know, media narrative techniques to get your attention and keep it. And that already, it's like I feel like in a truth, the true ideal of society, at least in one facet is like you should have news that is in no way motivated by ratings or profit or anything like that because then you get what we have now you know which is a whole bunch of hyper-polarized rage bait for the most part and then when you do put a non you know a story not related to crime or suffering the people go like well this is fluff this is news yeah and it's like what do you really want and yeah where can that balance exist because again when you have polar sides who we're so convicted of one, you know, version versus the other and the idea that you'll never

Starting point is 00:33:29 change my mind, what do you do? What do you do then? Well, I think coexistence is so necessary. That's the only way we will survive. It's the fundamental human experiment. Yes. And I mean, you know, as America, too, it's funny to watch a movie like this and see how much, again, from an American perspective, this has gathered relevance because, too, we are kind of in some ways, not all ways, but in some ways, we're just growing up. up to be like our father growing up to be like old england you know and i just got to say to like i know i've been kind of rambling and not even sometimes finishing thoughts i'm not super comfortable talking about this with a camera pointed at us like me personally i'm not because i know that everything i say

Starting point is 00:34:09 opens up the door for this and opens up the door for that then opens up the door for that so i try to keep it a little bit short but then i'm like ah but i don't want to sound like i am you know shying away from something i'll just admit that i'm not like the most comfortable while trying to be well well not trying but i am being honest yeah you know what i mean it's hard to go off the dome and to be very like salient when it feels like you're always learning i wasn't i've and like i said i wasn't repaired for what this movie was so it was like oh this is like sparking some things that have been of interest of mine lately yeah one it's fun to have a movie that again is on this scale with the again world-class cast they have amassed the you know really expert you know

Starting point is 00:34:51 visual language and stuff like that you get all that together but it's also a movie that yeah like does constantly ask you to keep up and to think but is also giving you a lot of interesting and and really lovely dialogue across the thing like there are multiple ways that this engages you i thought you know that are both purely artistic but that are also you know things that you can take out and extrapolate and compare to your own world well the whole line about how art uses lies to tell the truth like that's what this movie i feel like it's aspiring to It was the entire, it was emblematic of that. It's like you're watching a lie because this isn't true.

Starting point is 00:35:28 This is a lie. This is a fictional version of Britain. But it is bringing to light a lot of things that are very much, it's like a lot of this, I think, it's been there for a very long time. You know, everything that's happening in the world now and the divisiveness of it all. It's been there for a long time. It just feels like more like there's a spotlight on it more now, at least more than ever. The more media I consume, the more it becomes clear that like a lot of the common themes of history just keep on repeat. And it's always like folks in the Middle East are villainized.

Starting point is 00:36:05 Like the whole thing about like, oh, they found the Koran in his house. And now he's under, you know, he's black bagged. He's under arrest. He literally says immigrants. Yeah. Muslims. I'm like, whoa. And I mean, you know, I don't know where what is coming out.

Starting point is 00:36:18 But having seen another, you know, pretty notable sci-fi movie recently, that movie was like, not too distant future. And what is the unrest heavily settled upon, villainizing immigrants and particularly Muslims. And it's like that was maybe made it a similar time as this movie. But like I feel like even beyond that, you know, you go back into history. And it's been happening for so long. It seems like it's been happening since the beginning of time. Yeah, yeah. You know.

Starting point is 00:36:43 And I just want to have conversations. That's all I really want is, you know, and have conversations. and doesn't not like it's you usually if you you have a talk when where the goal is to win a talk you're not really going to land on a true solution in life you're not really going to have a discussion yeah if you're focused on yeah yeah yeah um so i love the movie i thought it was i thought it was a really great movie yeah and i'm surprised because you can't i don't feel like uh warner brothers or studios today would are willing to take risks like this unless Unless it's a sequel. And this does, and, you know, there's always some kind of conversation to be had about, like, oh, how good is this of an adaptation of Alan Moore? It's really hard to adapt Alan Moore. But this movie did really seem like it had the strength of its conviction and that like it was a passion project and it, like, wanted to do justice to whatever source material while also creating something that would be like a conversation piece that you can go out and actually kind of consider in the context of your own world. And I feel like for a movie to exist on this scale, yeah, feels special by today's standards, absolutely, because even now I would feel like, you know, even just pitching the possible is, you know, it's like stuff like 300 and watchmen, I'm sure helped with this, depending on the years. But, but yeah, it does seem like.

Starting point is 00:38:04 I think it was Wachowski's that really drove it. And certainly their clout. There was Wachowski's at the time, 2006. They were huge. Yeah. And so like it does feel like kind of a lightning in a bottle. And, and yeah, it's like even if there are things, again, I'm sure people in the comments will talk about, you know, how this compares, but like, it does feel like a bit of a special adaptation, regardless of whatever else it could be living up to. Like, this is a very striking piece and it has a unique and interesting tone and it has a interesting structure to it. And somehow, yeah, by the end for at least for, it sounds like the both of us, it managed to, for the most part, deliver and to not like crumble under the weight of all that aspiration. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:44 Stop provoking. Yeah. Anyway, guys. And the last, sorry, the last thing, I do appreciate that they do kind of, it's all about questioning. It's so bleak. It's so harsh. You're always questioning, like, is there hope? Can there be hope?

Starting point is 00:38:58 What is there worth having hope in? And I do appreciate that they highlight that element of like, there needs to be some aspect of hope in even a violent revolution like this one to aspire to because it's like it's easy to, you know, see a movie like this, grab the mask and take the nihilistic. message out of it, which is just like, oh, we need to burn the system down. And you usually end on annihil it. Nowadays, I feel like they go, let's, we're all 824 and end up here. No. Sure. Let's go. Let's end on a bleak note and really make you go home and reflect on yourself. But yeah, this is like you, and maybe that's a means of having your cake and

Starting point is 00:39:33 eating it too. But yeah, like the idea that like that's in there to kind of take it one step further. And yeah, to leave you in the place of like, no, it's, yeah, it's not just about burning the thing down. It's about burning the thing down and planting the seed of all. I thought it was inspiring. Yeah. Yeah, no, I really liked it a lot. And I'm really glad we watched it. Likewise.

Starting point is 00:39:55 Guys, what do you think about V for Vendetta? What part of it? You found the most thought-provoking. Leave your thoughts down below. And hey, I'll talk with you all soon.

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