The Reel Rejects - Venom: The Last Dance Post Credits Sets Up Spider-Man 4 & Secret Wars?! Knull’s Future & Blade News!

Episode Date: October 26, 2024

BIGGER SET UP THAN WE REALIZE?! In this RR LIVE stream, we're breaking down the Venom: The Last Dance mid credit & post-credit scenes and discussing how they might set up Spider-Man 4 with Tom Holland... and the next major MCU events like Avengers Secret Wars and Avengers Doomsday! We'll also dive into the latest Blade news and what its uncertain future means for Marvel Phase 5. Plus, we explore the potential role of Knull, the symbiote god, in the MCU — could he be the next big villain across Spider-Man and beyond? Join us as we unpack the future of Fantastic Four, Marvel Phase 5, and all the biggest Marvel movie news you don't want to miss! PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Us On Socials: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  https://www.tiktok.com/@thereelrejects?lang=en Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Try new Purina 1 Live Clear today Purina 1, a difference from day 1 Are we live? It says we're live. Do we have sound? Can you hear this? Citizens of the Reject Nation, we're going to try this again. We're taking it from the top, and we're going to just constantly be tweaking stuff as we go.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Everything looks, every screen we try this visual out on looks different, whether it's on the phone or on the computer. So let us know, are we blown out? Is the sound okay? You know, did you get all that? We're here to discuss Venom, the Last Dance, and hey, this is going to be an exciting one. I feel like we all have some level of similar opinions and probably have some level of differing opinions as well. We're going to talk about all that stuff, plus some news items. I know Poi loves news more than anyone I know, but I just want to say, hey, thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:19 If you joined us on the last stream, we do these sporadically, but we do them. minutes ago or the last time? The last, yeah, five minutes ago on the last stream, thank you to everyone who contributed to the super chats of that one and a half minute stream. We still have those, by the way. And everybody who's contributed to the prior streams on days that are not today as well. Very much appreciate you all. We don't end a stream unless we have gone through every single solitary stream labs and super chat
Starting point is 00:02:46 contribution. So if you want to make sure your thoughts, your questions, or addressed, if you want to insult us, for some reason, the best way to do it is through a super chat or a stream lab. But we also try to keep track of the main chat as well. We want everyone to feel included in the Convo. And hey, you know, play back on these live streams can be tough, so if you want to support,
Starting point is 00:03:06 just drop a like on the video. That does a ton. YouTube doesn't always recommend this stuff. So yeah, you know, and it's easy for these conversations to get demonetized. So, you know, we're gonna hopefully not get coy suckered into any, you know, nasty altercation. today. We're not going to say the C-word.
Starting point is 00:03:26 That's the only C-word in my vocabulary, C-O-E-C-W. So, yeah, I think that's all the housekeeping. Yeah, I mean, should we jump first into the movie or into some news? I want to shout their live. Danny, I met at the con in New York. Let's go, New York. Got to meet him and his crew, the guy that made the shoes. Hell is yeah. It was awesome shoes. I met a person. He's an absolutely polite and met his home. He's good people. at all. Oh, goodness. Well, hey, you should make you some shoes.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm gonna skiing some shoes. I think maybe some Deadpool or some Joker. We also, we already have some super chats flooding this stream and we had, I think, at least one from the previous stream. So that will, the previous stream today. So we will get to all that stuff, ASAP. But let's get into the main topics at hand. And first and foremost, we want to know what you think, you the people think, about Venom, the last dance did it have the adrenaline momentum did you love it did you hate it did you think it was okay where would you rank it among the other venom films the sony spider verse films let's talk about it Greg is the guy in the chair ned leads take it over today give us a one through 10
Starting point is 00:04:40 to chat I want to see well let's get a one through 10 I also like jason Atkins uh we are denim uh I would love a denim version of venom. I should have clapped. Exactly. Could I have that momentum. Like the best genist from Super, My Hero Academia. With his pants on me. You know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I don't understand it. And then his name was even more on the nose than I could have expected. It's normal in Japan. It's a total thing. Best genus. And my fan cast for that is Ryan Gosselin. Oh, I'm into that. He does so much with his eyes.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, absolutely. Or Tom Hardy, because you're always covering his face. Oh, that's true. We got two in the chat. We got six in the chat. We got eight in the chat. We got seven. Seven.
Starting point is 00:05:16 You got mid to low to some pretty good. A couple eights in there. Some folks liking Carnage better. I bet that's going to be a hot take throughout the day. Two best the trilogy, the Destroyer X. All right. Interesting. I personally gave it a 3 to 5, so it would be a 6 out of 10 on this scale.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I got a lot out of the venom elements of the film. The A plot, I really dug, but once we got into the B and C plot, I know these guys talked about their review, but I don't think you guys. have heard mine here. I really think the B and C plots worked once we got into the third act and they all kind of came together, but there were a lot of times that the other, when Venom wasn't on screen, plots dragged for me. I thought the science plot, like, I think Juno Temple is such a good actress, and that wasn't the Juno Temple-East. The movie did not support her at all.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But it's also interesting because, like, Kelly Marcell is a friend of Tom Hardy's, they've been like friends for 20 years or whatever, and she's been involved since the first, film in some manner and this is our directorial debut so I wonder how much was her directing like you know the actual moment on set versus directing the actors because Tom Hardy knows venom through and through these new characters don't know their characters as well so I'm wondering how much of that was like the director-to-actor-actor relationship how much of that it's just the the subplots didn't really work for me but the movie was fun enough and the
Starting point is 00:06:39 venom relationship is so endearing that I can't get it lower than a six for my experience of it maybe a six and a half I think it's the second best for me. The first one reigns supreme and then this one then the second one. But yeah, it was a kind of a mixed bag of a movie that I overall enjoyed and at the end of the day it captured that weird lethal
Starting point is 00:06:58 protector, David Michelini's hopping Farleen Field that I consider them. Caitlin, thank you for joining in contributing. We're going to get to the Super Chat soon, but those are some good thoughts. I would agree. I feel like my number rating the first time around was a 6.8 and the 8 was mostly for the enjoyability
Starting point is 00:07:14 A. But you know what? Let's Let's get to that post-credit scene. Yeah. I am not. I'm gonna learn how to do this approach. Let's do it. So, spoilers ahead. Roaches will outlive us all.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Some big Rod Burgundy energy. It's absolutely true. You know, chop chop to me says now just cut and move. Which feels much like the experience of watching Ven the last Dan. I keep wanting to call it the last Dan. the last stand. And one thing I will say before we get into the spoilers, what I was going to say before I had the idea that we should talk about spoilers independently, is Dan Merle, in his review, pointed out that this seems like it was very much a writer's strike and also trying
Starting point is 00:08:00 not to be actor strike movie. And that makes a lot of sense in terms of how this just the movie is constructed. I felt like I was watching Madam Webb for half of this, and then ultimately got endeared and started having fun for the right reasons. But yeah, it is a mess. Yeah, first two acts especially. And it felt like someone's like, oh, crap, get a draft together. Let's just start shooting.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But anyway, let's talk them post. And there's a mid-credit scene as well. Which is arguably a bit bigger than the post. No, because venom is coming back as a cockroach. With electricity for some reason. The electric venom. Not a lot. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:08:41 I thought it was Danny. Whatever. Oh, what the hell's his name? I thought... Dania boss! Whoa! I thought the implication was a different one. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:48 What's the implication? I thought he was that he said coming back as a different symbiote. My implication was that he attached to a cockroach because they can survent anything. That's what I thought, too, but then I read a nervous report that made me think otherwise.
Starting point is 00:09:00 But if it's the electrical... If it's the electrical symbiote, then it must be the one that Juno Temple was, you know, attached to. I don't know. It was black cockroach. Her symbiose is pink, purple. Yeah, it's true. So maybe Venom will come back with electrical powers and he'll have electric white spider on his chest. Yeah, made of pure electricity. People are saying a lot of stuff, but the audio, I don't know how to help.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Apparently the audio is coming from... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Apparently the audio is coming from another source, so it sounds teeny. I don't know, I'm just reading the chat. It's coming from Robaster. Everybody was saying it sounds weird. Uh, I don't have answers. Guys, today's chaos. We're doing our best. We're doing it. We're doing our very best. All right, I'm going to pull up the stream on my phone and see how it sounds. And I'll talk about post-credit scene. Talk about that mid-credit scene that I definitely remember. Mid-credit scene is the one with Null.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Oh, yes, another PS5 cutscene. Jesus Christ. What's so true? I get what they're saying. It sounds like we're coming from the camera, John. Oh, is that the audio? Because it definitely sounds like room noise. Yeah, it sounds like room noise.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It doesn't sound like pipes. Give me the mess. Are you sure he didn't, Could it be the setting in Roadcaster? So you say, it sounds like it's from the camera. Does it sound like it's from the mic? Not from the mic? Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 John's our live stream guru. And tech, and host, and lead. So when John does a good job, we give him praise. We give him very little praise. But when he does a bad job, we claim him bigly. We annihilate him. There can't be bad. It's sarcasm.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Alright, we're just gonna read it. Brat is how you do it. You want to talk about all? Yeah, I got with this terrible audio. Well, I can wait. I just didn't. I want to lose the audience. All of them, it's with the sound. If you don't want to lose the audience, Coy, you know you gotta do. You gotta take your shirt off.
Starting point is 00:10:58 That's not right now. I'm in, I'm in bear season. Bear, man. Big Bear energy. Come on, Coy Bear, take it off, Coy Bear. Cave is currently a six-pack season. You'll be a little bitch, Coy Bear. Come on, Coy Bear.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I avoid mirrors right now. I've been run around my house, dodging, trying to see. The audio sounds worse, apparently. Well, that's good. Somebody unplugged the Roadcaster from the computer itself. Now is it better. Sound is terrible. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, that was five seconds ago. Could have improved. Okay. John, you should have checked that. I did. And it was not. that before. Everyone
Starting point is 00:11:41 blanked John. It was not unplugged before. Well, who would have there was something I haven't. I don't know. There was nothing
Starting point is 00:11:48 someone else was like unplugged or was it unplugged? Or was it unplugged it? Was it something else It was plugged in earlier when I was
Starting point is 00:11:55 checking all this stuff and then I look back over here and it was literally like out of the front of the computer. I did unplug I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It must be cool. I have no reason to ever unplug it from the front of the computer. Why would I have unplugged? I don't know. I think it probably happened by accident.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I mean, there's a bunch of stuff over it. But something else was plugged in its spot? No, nothing was plugged into the spot. It doesn't... It was just literally unplugged. So it just came on ball. I thought you were saying there was something else plugged in it. No.
Starting point is 00:12:25 That makes no sense. No, and there's like another USB right next to it that looks similar. So I was like, okay, it's plugged in. I think this live stream is about as smooth as the Venom trilogy. It is. This was all part of the plan. Thank you if you made it five minutes. into this stream and now we have okay decent audience you know there's like interpretive dance it's
Starting point is 00:12:43 like that but a live stream so what we're doing is interpretive okay okay coy let's get to talk about no talk about no talk about no i look off the ending of the cockroach i don't think you're wrong i think that's anyway let's talk about no uh null is from largely the king and black storyline he also makes some really cool appearances in silver surfer black he's kind of a god of darkness in the greater mc u he literally came from darkness when the celestials impeded his void, his realm that is absence of all and brought light to it and he murked
Starting point is 00:13:15 a celestial out of spite with the necrosword which we saw in Thor Love and Thunder. The necros sword. I assume we will not have any connection between the two but just in case that necrosword is canonically in the MCU but the MCU is not touching venomly and they made that very
Starting point is 00:13:30 clear with the five openings of the film it was a really weird thing to go like we're in the MCU, we're not in the MCU, that shot of Venom looking at the TV, that's not going to matter. We're going to go over here and we're going to, and they showed it all through Danny Rojas. So what I assume is going to be the way this all plays out is the null storyline is going to stay in the world of Sony because of how much they distinguished it's not in the MCU. And I think, I think that's going to be. I coughed.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Coy is going to have tuberculosis by the end of the stream. What was this? Coy has, Coy is going to check his palm. Oh, no. no blood. It scared me. That's what happened. The artificial intelligence coin. It had some type of advice. I got to say, I really like
Starting point is 00:14:16 this setup, actually. I really like having us in focus and that you is like the gallery in the background and causing chaos. Good. Yeah, there is. There is. And I like that he's like the Boku. Yeah. And so, no, I believe, before I died, is going to be what they try to form an allegiance
Starting point is 00:14:32 of Sony characters to fight. I don't know if it's going to make it in the greater MCU but I could see this becoming like the Thanos over at Sony and I think that's going to be what they maybe try to use all these anti-heroes for Spider-Man 4 I do believe is going to be multiversal I think
Starting point is 00:14:49 what they're going to do is have Andrew and Toby come in because I don't I don't think they want to go small after a billion dollar movie I think they personally should do a street level film I think they should finally give us a you know version of Spider-Man that feels like Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:15:04 the friendly neighborhood arc but with Toby and Andrew being so popular, I could see that being something they would unite to fight null. So it might get other symbiates from other multiverse stuff. I could see the bucket of money at Tofer. But I don't know, because nostalgia is so, nostalgia is currency right now to a level that's very unhealthy. So I think they're just going to be trying to, like, build to that. So I could see Null being that big, bad, and what that looks like. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Wow. Do you think that Toby or Andrew could open the door for the white spider classic image? I think Venom will only get it when he sees Spider-Man. I thought it was going to happen after the TV shot. I think Tom Holland should get the symbiate in the MCU from Secret Wars, and I think Venom should personally should find Andrew Garfield, not Tom Holland. But that's not going to happen. But if I was writing this, if what I would do is have a Venom versus Andrew Garfield movie,
Starting point is 00:15:54 I would have a multiverse movie be the third in a new trilogy. The first would open with Tom Holland, and the Tom Holland movie would be basically his street-level story. I would then have a Spider-Man 4, which is another Spider-Man 4, a Sam Ramey Spider-Man 4. You have two Spider-Man 4s. I wouldn't call it that, obviously. Let's go. But then that would be a buddy-cop movie with Toby and Andrew, and that would be something that led to Venom. Then the third film would be like this giant cataclysmic null movie.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And then you call the Toby Andrew team-up spiders. Yeah. Or Spider-Man 2 squared, because it's also 4. Oh, and it's 2-Men. I like it. And that way there's Spider-Man 4, Spider-2 Squared. And then, yeah, but I think it's going to inevitably be one movie that's multiversal, but we'll see. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Gee, did you find any information about, what did you find out the post-credits information you were looking at? Yeah, I think our first theory was correct. Okay. That the, it makes more, I don't know. What did some rando at Nerdistray? He said that he was becoming some difference to be out. But it was actually like a cool article talking about how Venom, because, live on there and then how Venom was at the end
Starting point is 00:17:04 of the day in the No Way Home Post credit scene of living the symbiote behind there in our universe so the idea of Venom living on is actually very likely despite whatever because they talked about how cockroaches survive anything that was the whole joke so I saw
Starting point is 00:17:19 that very naturally brought up factoid at the gate with the guard cockroaches live anyway yeah so I think we developed her character what do you guys think though I want to know this what do you guys think about the
Starting point is 00:17:33 we haven't had Spider-Man and Venom interact in the current iterations of all this barring Sam Ramey Spider-Man 3 it seems odd they've made a decent amount out of just having solo Venom movies but it seems like an elephant in the room and especially as of the closing of this trilogy
Starting point is 00:17:52 not including that how do you guys feel sound off in the comments and let's hear your thoughts Let's hear your thoughts, Coy. You're the voice of the people. Apparently. Oh, no, I'm sorry, people.
Starting point is 00:18:06 One thought is Venom is great on his own in the comic books, but the core of Venom starts with Spider-Man, so it's really tricky that there hasn't been any interaction. But the one thought is, I like Leather Protector Comics, I like Sinner Takes All, I like the hunted, I like separation anxiety. There's plenty of great Venom comics. I mean, there's hundreds of Venom issues. Venom's his own guy. But it starts with Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:18:27 So the lack of any interactivity, we've definitely noticed. my second thought and maybe a hot take, I think that part of the contract at Sony is that Spider-Man can't appear in these Spider-Man character films. Because everyone we always talk about like, oh, they shot stuff with Andrew Garfield from Adam Webb. That was someone
Starting point is 00:18:43 on the internet saying it. Oh, they had Venom going to pop up in the No Way Home. That was someone in the internet saying it. I literally have never seen actual proof that a single Venom film actually had a thing. And if they did, it was kind of like how Wolverine was on set for Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And they literally, like, didn't have his costume, so they, like, pulled that scene. Every time I've heard, like, Tom Allen was going to do a thing, it's always been, like, conjecture on the internet. So I'm wondering if the way the Sony Marvel deal works, actually, because now we've got seven films of examples is, you guys can use these characters. You guys can use Spider-Man, but Spider-Man can't appear in these Sony films, like, as that Spider-Man, which is why you'd bring in Miles or someone new. I mean, and a great example is, I'm very excited, like, extremely excited for Spider-Man noir, the Nicholas Cage live-act. show on Amazon, like so excited. They're calling him Ben Riley. I think Peter Parker cannot appear in a Sony property
Starting point is 00:19:36 because they're literally calling him Ben Riley. So if Peter Parker is Toby, Andrew, and Tom, they've got to use another character. This is all, I don't know anything more than that. I personally, like Koi, like the entity beyond the internet, like me as a person, enjoys the hell out of what Sony is attempting to do with fan appreciation. Like they really, I love that every time I've been on a Sony event
Starting point is 00:19:58 regarding Spider-Man. Tom Hardy stayed literally an hour after the panel to talk and meet everyone. Tom Holland spends so much time at these fan events. Like, I've never seen Marvel do a trailer launch with their lead actor and actually have it broadcast worldwide. The stuff that everyone does, like, actually in Sony with these characters,
Starting point is 00:20:16 they love. I don't know what the contract is that makes it impossible for Spider-Man to show up, but I definitely think we've noticed. I have noticed, Coy. Thanks. I was wondering what you're wondering is. That is actually a very good theory.
Starting point is 00:20:28 though because it does see like the part of the fascinating thing about all these movies is to kind of pick apart how and why they exist the way that they do and why these weird decisions seem like they keep getting made and I feel bad for the actual filmmakers making the actual films because they take the fact time Tom Hardy is like I want to fight spider but he says it like weekly he's out here just trying to like strong arm the execs into green lighting that idea and they just won't they just can't and you guys know like I'm of anyone I'm the guy that defends Sony You are the guy, like, I am literally Spider-Verse guy.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yeah, like, so this isn't coming from shade. I love and respect what Sony's doing if that's, especially if that's what they have to do because of Condorax. Because it seems like they're just dancing. And I want a Sinister Six movie as much as the next guy, but it is odd. They're not Spider-Man. Manufacture it. Force it in one movie. I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That's what I want it all along. This is great. This is amazing. We're all dead right now. Don't worry, Jordan, Garza. Are you actually writing to us, Jordan, from the movie theater? Don't do that. Because that's rad.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Apparently, people are enjoying Venom in the movie theater. But let's see if people are enjoying Venom in the super chats, you know? Because we're going to, I mean, through answering your questions and addressing your comments, we will probably get all of our own thoughts about the adrenaline momentum of the final Ventum together. You know, we'll do it all. And he did. He pulled a homelander letting that. plane fall to earth that's messed up man
Starting point is 00:21:59 so many innocent people died that's true I didn't even think about the airplane oh so many people died the poor so many people died and they didn't include the shot from the trailer or Venom winks at that lady yep and he didn't say Dr. Michael Morbius at your service
Starting point is 00:22:15 we didn't want to humanize the lady that died she died no she died yes right we didn't want to show her we didn't want to have a cute moment right before the plane goes down someone said a funny comment that the close-ups remind them of watching a normal of like the edit of us being punched him, which is cheeky and like that. Yeah, yeah, too many skittles for Greg is true.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Greg's on them skittles. Greg is taste in the rainbow. Let me tell you. Oh, the skittles. All righty, so where do we start? Where do we? We'll make sure we get them from the last stream too, we promise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:23:26 Thank you, Davey, Davi, Jordan Garza. Ola, you, bitch. Thank you for joining us in the live stream. And again, for writing to us from the theater. Like, I feel like we are at the cinema talking with, you should put this live stream up on the movie screen. Like, they do it like Little Revival House Cinemas, but at whatever multiplex, I assume, you work at, just bombard the people who were watching.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He was just, at least in the live time, he was like, you know, people work at the theater. I thought he was attending a movie screening and on his phone. Jordan? And that I cannot. I cannot know. Don't be watching a movie on your phone. But if you are an usher, don't ush be on your phone. Ush on your phone.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I was an usher for six years. I ushed on my phone all over the place. Oh, shit, coy. Yeah, that's right. Six years of usher. And, oh, and congrats to Hayden Center. Well done on your 500 subs. Everybody in the chat goes sub to Hayden.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, good work. And then he'll have 501 subs. And then you can... One person's in the chat? One person. One new person. All 500 other subs are already in the chat. That's true.
Starting point is 00:24:33 What is what happened? Crossover. Incredible dude 11. Thank you so much for the moment of silence. It's only fitting that we honor the final venom with some respectful silence. Caitlin, thank you so much for jumping into the super chat. The CGI symbiote and fight scenes looked way too good for the green screen. backgrounds to look that
Starting point is 00:24:57 bad. I think my theory on that is the Venom symbiate hasn't changed design much so they've had seven years of like rendering it and they've had that model forever. That models look great and that's why these movies get cheaper. And then the other symbiates are obviously plays off those. They can do that but yeah the background versus the symbiates
Starting point is 00:25:13 was definitely noticeable. It did have that thing where like oh yes I mean and I think it better than a lot of movies that seem lately motivated the fact that you're just like in a tan desert for a lot of it. But at the same time that does kind of contribute to like it feeling smaller in a way than it actually is and yeah like it is a kind of odd thing to note i think it's a really astute observation like the subjects
Starting point is 00:25:36 the models those can look often very you know great dazzling movie magic but then yeah the the background the environment kind of pulls you out sometimes it's interesting and and sharp eye for noticing that i loved the ending i love the finale battle i thought the finale battle was great I did not love the finale battle of any of the Venom movies except for this one. When they went into, to interrupt your stream, when they went into the, it was when Chia Tjofor showed up and he's like, I hate science and I think you know this. I'm going to take, I'm going to take Venom. Venoms, I'm going to take Tom Hardy.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I hate him because he killed three people, but it was actually four. I miscounted in the editing. He killed some cartel drug abuse. There was someone when we were watching the movie who was sitting right next to me who was eating this fucking movie like she was laughing hysterically at jokes that were partially funny she was enjoying it but when he's when he shouts after the river scene he's like I lost three men she said under her breath it's actually four well he was talking about the fact paying that goes attention to what was going No, she's, she's, yeah, the movie that he says he lost three men because he's actually a sexist and he doesn't care about the female soldier who Venom, Tom Hardy has the thing with, yeah. Because now I think that was a lady soldier.
Starting point is 00:27:05 It was a lady soldier, shot her in the mix. Yeah. Very bloody for a piece of film. So Chiautel just didn't care, Rex, sorry, didn't care about her. But my, my point is that that final fight when, when Venom is being taken and then the creature shows up, I was like, this is actually surprisingly intense. And I thought the whole symbiots latching onto Because I thought the movie was smart How they kept teasing the symbiots throughout the entire film
Starting point is 00:27:28 And then when they started latching on to people And you see them coming at life I was like, this is fucking awesome. As a comic fan, they definitely betrayed Some of the loyalty to certain ones Like Scream is yellow and is an awesome badass She's probably the most famous of that era Life Foundation separation anxiety symbiates
Starting point is 00:27:42 And then they put her on like a fat dude So he's just a chunky boy And I was like, ah, that's not like So I did love it as a comic fan? Is there a symbiote that has control over acid? Yes. And they use that, interestingly. Yeah. Did they? Well, because they said it up.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, they set it up, but they didn't use this acid symbion they could have used. That would be a big boost to your, yeah. To your whole goal there. But, I mean, it was fun. I just thought it kind of betrayed the comics that like those certain colors were supposed to be things. They were like, nah. But it was still like, I was cool to see those symbiots and like Greed said, this is, I think, the best
Starting point is 00:28:13 finale of the three. Jordan works in an Alamo Theater. They have food, and he's a runner. Okay, yeah. So you're not betraying. You're not sitting in the theater in your phone. I respect that. No. Well, and two, that's probably interesting because, yeah, you get to kind of check in and out and see the progress of the people's journey.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I've worked at a movie theater restaurant before. That's cool. A couple years. And it was a very interesting, like, dynamic. Okay. Because, I believe that. As a server, you do one job. As a restaurant, you do another job.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And as an employee of a movie theater, you do a different job. So it's like three very different, like. So I respect you. Jordan, that's a hell of food. Jordan, you're wearing all the hats today. You are the foundation that gives us life. my man do you think
Starting point is 00:28:54 Jeremiah Torres thank you for stoking the fires of conversation you think Venom could be in secret wars can't wait I think that would be
Starting point is 00:29:05 kind of awesome if they got Tom Hardy out of retirement to do it one more time and just wreck all the continuity there yeah they took them into the MCU they took them out of the MCU
Starting point is 00:29:13 they put them back in the MCU who knows what's going to happen and then do that thing where they're like it's actually different Tom Hardy Venom but we're never going to see him again still
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, do that. Tom Hardy and Sony retired, but Tom Hardy, the MCU, you know. We just know you wanted to see that, so here's some fan service for you. I think it could happen, but I think this was the last Venom film, but I do think we'll see Venom again, but not in a Venom film. Venom will return with James Bond. Did you imagine a James Bond Venom? That's the movie I wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I mean, he put on the tucks, we got excited. Yeah, then you could get Tom Hardy back. That whole shoe subplow was entertained. Incredible. I loved the egg, you know what, actually one thing I will say is I thought that was a very charming detail that they included. My shoes. My shoes. Nice thing that made it into a movie
Starting point is 00:29:56 full of a lot. Less specific and flavorful choices. Incredible dude. 11. Incredible thanks for joining us and for chatting with us. Coy, I must. I must give you your flowers.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It wasn't till now I understood your take on Yoker 2 and how movies should create conversations and our art thank you uh i think art is meant to cause emotion and meant to cause conversations and i think a lot of times people just go was it good or bad and uh that is no it's was it the best movie ever or was it the worst movie ever can we yell we're back or not because if there's no ticot where i can yell we're so back then frankly was it even a movie um no i i think that uh art shouldn't be a single blank piece of paper and in fact a blank piece of paper can of things to say about it. I really
Starting point is 00:30:50 love that art is a conversation because I think that the only thing we as humanity can kind of guarantee is discourse. Whether that's good or bad, like that's what makes us human as we've developed enough to, like there's this test with animals where you put them in front of a mirror and a certain level of intelligence, they recognize that as another
Starting point is 00:31:06 animal or as themselves. And I think the human brain goes a step beyond that and it's recognizing the thing in the mirror as a version of yourself and then telling a story around it. And I think that art is often that mirror. And I think that we as humans have devolved a fair amount in the last 15 years
Starting point is 00:31:22 and we don't let ourselves have conversations about art we just go like yeah or let's go and it's exhausting so I really struggle with the internet and I really appreciate even one person incredible dude 11 noticing and caring about conversations
Starting point is 00:31:37 because that's what art should elicit so I appreciate it. Absolutely absolutely and the thing is I feel like oftentimes a glorious failure a big big swing and a miss can be some of the most compelling art you'll see as we live in the same year as Megalopolis which I'm dying to
Starting point is 00:31:52 cease even still even though I've heard every possible opinion about that movie. And that's what's, every possible opinion means it actually did something. I personally didn't enjoy it but it did something. But that's interesting and that's art. Art. Jordan Garza. Also, there can be things that inspire conversation and let's go. They both have merit
Starting point is 00:32:08 and I like when both happen. Let's go discuss this. Winter soldiers are great. Let's go discuss this. Let's go have discourse. Jordan Garza. We got you, but we're going to repeat it. Oh, see, I saw the live chat, so we're going to make sure we get it. Jordan Garzae works in an Alamo draft house theater, and so far, the audience loves Venom 3. Love to hear it.
Starting point is 00:32:30 All right. Well, keep us posted, because if they still love it by the end, that's a good sign, because this is easily, this is the inverted venom movie. Like, at least the first one is, yeah, like, the first two thirds and the end, you're like, this is the generic battle. and then, you know, carnage is what it is, but this one gets, yeah, the best at the very end. So I hope that they are overjoyed by the last dance. And I also see a convo happening in the chat about the actual titular dance sequence
Starting point is 00:32:59 being a little out of place in the movie in terms of just like logic and venom just like activating that codex so we can cut a rug with Mrs. Chen. And not to say that Ms. Chen isn't worth it because she absolutely is, but also it's a little bit of odd. That was the one part of the movie when I was like,
Starting point is 00:33:16 it's a little too dumb, Venom. Yeah, yeah. Like, I get your little dumb, but that's a little too little. Especially for how long, and they get caught. And then him being surprised by it. Yeah, it's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:33:29 If it had been my film, what I would have done is I would have used the loophole of Venom can, like, be on his shoulder. So have Tom Hardy and Venom, you know, is poking out and Ms. Jen all dance together. And then have Venom get so into it that he goes full venom,
Starting point is 00:33:46 and that's when the thing happens. Because then we also get, because don't worry, Eddie Brock has a relationship with Mrs. Chen as well. I would have liked that. All right, and then we can pass the symbiote onto her. Get Chenem. Tiana Chanel, thank you so much for joining the Super Chats,
Starting point is 00:34:01 my dear, appreciate the love and support. Haven't seen the movie yet. This is the right place to be. But wanted to pop in and say hello, and happy spooky season to you handsome gents and the fine citizens. of Rejectination. Thank you, dear.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Appreciate that. Happy spooky season to you as well. Happy spooky season to all you guys. What's everyone going to dress as for Halloween and name at least one spooky movie you're going to watch this week in honor of my favorite holiday? I watched The Batman on Thursday. That's a Halloween movie.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And because this is one of, in seven years, you can watch it because Thursday, October 31st is the first line of the film. And this Halloween is Thursday, October 31st. So I watched it on the Thursday leading up. to Halloween. Thursday. October 31st. This is Halloween. Watch the Batman this year.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I should dress as something else because I wear this costume all the time. It's my, I want to drop. It's basically uniform. It's not an actual costume. It's not fun at all. It's worth. I'm dressing as Alfred that's Halloween. Yeah, Andy, sir, I'll be Gallum.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Because I have suits. It's meta. Anyway, I am Ollie. Thank you for joining the Super Chat and keeping us moving on along with that momentum of venom. Hey, I've been watching you guys since the start of phase four of the real rejects. Can't be crazy how far we've come since then. Love you guys. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:28 It is crazy. Like, this whole thing is surreal and fun and lovely, and it wouldn't be possible without you guys. Yeah. Appreciate you guys just hanging out with us, essentially. And, yeah. It's pretty crazy. Phase four was not seemingly that long ago, but the changes. evolution and this guy he's done he's done some good stuff too yeah he's helped out along
Starting point is 00:35:50 the way a little bit hey i think you know what we might actually have a stream lab oh contributions okay hop over there real let's do it and i think we also have some other new it's not just venom today there's other things in the thumbnail there's other things in the thumbnail tom holland's out there bureau yes we got the singular stream lab to go let's do that thing let's do let's jump over there we'll talk about blade we'll talk about spiderman come on where's the graphic Where's the graphic? Get the graphic on screen screen screen. Where's the graphic?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Where's the graphic? The wrong window. Where's the graphic? Okay, there we do have more super chats. But, yeah, I think we should talk about the blade thing because Koi's itching to talk about. Oh, Blade? There can be only one blade. There's only ever going to be one blade.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I am, are we doing Blade or this one first? This one first. Okay. Seth Arp says, if Tom Hardy and Venom somehow came into the MCU unlikely, how would you put them at odds with each other to make Venom a villain again, considering Eddie Venom have been heroes in their universe. Well, the way it works in the comics is the bond is largely over hatred for Peter Parker. The fact that Peter Parker, as a person at the paper, kind of exposed Eddie, and then Spider-Man kind of exposed Eddie, and all of that turns into betrayal and animosity. So it is not
Starting point is 00:37:11 going to be possible to do that level of we are bonded over this hatred so I'd imagine it would be he's the lethal protector so what I would do is maybe he goes to work at the daily bugle and he believes Jonah so basically
Starting point is 00:37:26 the Spider-Man menace persona is what Eddie believes to be the case and then something would happen where you know he sees something happen to misinterpret so he with his own eyes sees someone get hurt because of the Spider-Man and then him working at Bugle the voice in his ears, Jonah Jameson, so, like, Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:37:43 the Menace, and then that way it's the lethal protector protecting his precious New York City, and Spider-Man being seen as a bad guy, and that's kind of how, but it's way deeper in the comics, that's just what you kind of have to do. I think that if Tom Hardy joins the MCU as Venom, he should
Starting point is 00:37:59 like, you know, just have like a really human, you know, struggle of his own with, like, you know, venom and his relationship doesn't work anymore because, like, maybe he turns up in New York and immediately gets recruited as, like, an underwear model and it's just like all about his physique and what he can do and like his buff body and then venom's starting to get jealous because you know he's just a big ball of black goo
Starting point is 00:38:19 and people don't want to take pictures of venom there's nothing he could do on set you know and and like the modeling thing this isn't for him and so then they split apart and and then you know venom's determined to make Eddie fat oh yeah all that chicken and chocolate chicken and chocolate yeah adds up changes his diet to make Eddie just a so he's the blob now and then then Spider-Man fat shames him. Definitely, he does. And then Spider-Man gets canceled. That's the true villainy.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And then Jonah's like, I knew it all along. Yeah, exactly. All right. Exactly. We pitched it. We pitched it, guys. We got there. We got there.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Spider-Man, no way. No. No. That's it. Spider-Man, no way. Karma, no. Spider-Man, no way. No way.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Spider-Man, no way. I love my close-up body. Like, you're just like, I don't have a rhyme punch. Spider-Man, no. No, no way. No, bro. Yes. Thank you, Seth.
Starting point is 00:39:22 What I was going to say was going to offend some people, so I cut it. Sorry. So it was just no way. No. No way I'm going to say that. No way. Will this be on camera? No way.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Is that happening to a day? That was fun. That was a good one. That was a good one. Well, whose pitch do you like better on movie fights? Vote in the comments below. Body shaming venom? Body shaming venom.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Or Jay Jonah Jameson Menace? And then he turned Spider-Man into an Underwar model, too. Spider-Man stopped Spider-Manning, you know? They just live contented lives and crime goes up. It's a very marquey, mark-centric plot line. I didn't expect it. And then we'll get Donnie Wahlberg to play. Feel it, feel it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah, it's Toby McGuire. Hold on, guys. I'm going to. Oh, get you a blade image. Oh, because we're going to talk about blade. Yeah, talk about blade. Guys, guess what happened the other day in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? First time ever, it's never happened before.
Starting point is 00:40:22 They took a movie off the slate. Can you guess which movie is no longer on the 2025 MCU Marvel Slade? I'm not going to name it until the graphic is up. What movie isn't coming out in 11.5 months? It's not surprising no one. Did you know? We have, I was looking back at that. Did you know that Mahershalla is in Predators with Adrian Brody?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Totally didn't even realize that. I had forgotten. He's jacked as heck in that movie. He's big and buff. Wait. And Predators? Yeah, with Adrian and Brody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Wow. Totally. Saw it again recently and was like, wow. What are you doing here in Walton Goggins and a whole bunch of other people? What's the Shane black one called Predator? The Predator. The Predator. The definitive.
Starting point is 00:41:06 The definitive predator. I mean, and the critics definitely agree. No better predator. Audience is agreed. It doesn't get any better than the predator. Than the predator. Defo. It's a blade.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Oh, you know. Just in time, Koi. But it's not visible to the people yet. Just darkness. Hoytis. That's not the Day Walker. What have you done? That's not the Day Walker either.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I just thought you said the Bay Walker. I was like Michael Bay. No, no, no. This is when Blade goes to San Francisco. He's the Bay Walker. He walks the Bay. He walks the Bay. He just coming out of fog left and right.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah, let's go. Raffa Kassell, Buildman, Studio up at the Bay. and Herschel out here. He's the Baywalker. We're vamping very well. This is very entertaining. Guess what? All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:41:46 There's only going to be one blade. Only got to be one blade. And I don't think it's going to be this one. Because Blade is no longer on the 2025 MCU Slate. Coy, what do you think about that? I think that we've had reports in the last two days that Mahershala is happy with this delay
Starting point is 00:42:04 and apparently he's still the MCU Blade. But those come from someone telling me something. and I believe them completely. I think that Mahershala is in love with the character and really wanted something specific and that's why we went through so many writers and directors
Starting point is 00:42:21 and I think being picky is good and I think there's also an element of the internet going, guys, it's a vampire and just make a vampire hunter movie and I look at the 30 vampire movies that come out a year and the one good one we get and I go, well apparently it's harder than you think. So I would rather Blade not be
Starting point is 00:42:39 disrespected with a crappy film. I don't know if that means we still have rehearsal to though. I could see there being a Midnight Sun's movie and then Secret Wars wiping all continuity and then getting a new blade in the new era. I really think we're going to get Heroes Reborn basically wiping out
Starting point is 00:42:55 whatever people they don't keep post that. Like I don't think in 10 years most of the MCU actors that were in phase 1 through 3 are involved. So I could see them like having maybe a blade and then like a new blade after Secret Wars. But I don't see rehearsal doing this for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, I mean, that's the big concerning question, and it's weird because I'm really excited to see his take on it, and I'm happy that, you know, taste is always a subjective matter, so I hope that all of this delay and all of this, you know, attention to detail pans out into something that is worth all the, you know, conversation surrounding it. But I would agree. I feel like the sentiment of like, let's just get any vampire movie out there, you know, is not going to lead to a movie that everyone's like, are you ultimately going to be
Starting point is 00:43:42 happy if you just get a generic MCU vampire movie out of a franchise that already has trouble varying up its tone in them? I want like a good vampire movie. I mean, when they announced me at Goth, I was excited because it felt very specific. Yeah. We're going to do streamlabs and super chats here again in a second, but we're going to come to the story.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I am grandstanding on the mic just, you know, hogging all the time talking about this blade situation. But yeah, I mean, you know, if they're still working on it and they're still committed to it like cool I absolutely agree take your time and make something good and memorable someone said we're going to pretend our turtles didn't happen it seems they are
Starting point is 00:44:16 but also we didn't see him it was just his voice so if there's ever been an easier recasting it's a voice again I personally like Marcia I hope that he at least gets a chance via his own maybe singular solo movie or singular Midnight Sons but I want Blade for a while I also wonder if we do get that Logan-esque Blade 4 I think that could be possible.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It's weird. I think they are probably having all kinds of conversations just due to everything that happened with Deadpool and Wolverine and there's the whole like, oh, is Gambit going to get his own thing? What else was canceled? Wasn't Armour Wars canceled? Armour Wars got changed back into a movie
Starting point is 00:44:56 after it's been movie show, movie show, movie show. And Cheadle said there's like no new update. He's like, I don't know what's going on with that. Yeah. So it's in limbo. Yeah, not great. I think. Which is a bummer because I think it's a very topical story.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And I think that Don Cheadle's been like one of the earliest adapters who hasn't had a movie. Yeah. Were we bringing up Eternals because Blade was at the post-credit scene? Yeah, his voice with The Black Knight, which, you know, if there's one thing phase four brought us, it was post-credit scenes that we haven't seen pay off. Phase four brought us the DCE. You know what? Oh, no. Like, especially post-creds is wise.
Starting point is 00:45:33 There's somebody set-ups and shit isn't happening. Man, they should. Stiles as Eros. You know, it would be very fun, is if they do a movie or maybe like one of those one shot specials or something where you get all the characters introduced in a bunch of these random post-credit scenes we might
Starting point is 00:45:48 never see again and, like, put them on some wacky adventure together. Deadpool and Wolverine 2. Yeah, put Hercules and Eros and Clea and... Dude, if Deadpool, Mulverine 2 is just post-credit scene characters cleaning up continuity, like literally if they clean up the Fox Universe in the first
Starting point is 00:46:05 one, and then in the next one they clean up the MCU leading up to Secret Wars. And I would start Deadpool 4. I would start that with the credits. Yes. Do the entire normal ass movie credits. Yes. And Zen start the movie.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Oh, he's so much. As the post credits movie. I love that. Yeah, I would adore that very much. That's a great comparison though. Engineer Greg to the DC extended amalgamated universe.
Starting point is 00:46:34 But hey, Kit Harrington's going to be a great lead in one of these movies someday. One of these days. I don't want it. I don't want the sword. I don't watch. I want to watch this back.
Starting point is 00:46:53 When stuff's moving around on the screen, I'm like, ooh, I wonder how the audience sees this. Because these are all choices. This is how the stream is meant to look, and Greg is the DP. Yes. All right, we're going to return. I just like many people.
Starting point is 00:47:05 and on the process that's good i do that i like that too it's how the sausage is made enlightening thing uh here we go all right left off sea black thank you for joining in the super chat very much appreciate you does hugh ryan and toby appear in secret wars that's hugh grant ryan philippi and toby jones uh who is good toby jones could come back most likely yep Uh, I don't, Hugh Jackman, yes, uh, Ryan Reynolds, absolutely. Toby, why not? I mean, I think they, I even hate to say this, uh, I think with the downy, the downy announcement shows they care about the impact of a meme as much as they care about the characters. I think they're all back.
Starting point is 00:48:00 It's going to, it's going to be the trailer. It's going to, I mean, it's going to play half the role. It's just like they, they're leaning. they want the brand back so bad they're willing to like i think downy if he'd never played iron man would have made an interesting doom but even that's kind of a stretch because like doom is so physically intimidating and i love downy but he's a very slight man uh so even that choice had he not been iron man is still a trick he wanted to pull off um i remember when killy murphy was so heavily rumored i was like i love killing murphy i think he'd be perfect but i you'd have to shoot him like
Starting point is 00:48:31 tom cruise and like there's so many like he's just such a physically intimidating thing so I think them casting downy, it was the number 15th Instagram video of all time within 24 hours. I think you get that again with Hugh, Ryan, and Toby, so I think that's exactly what they're going to do. Yeah, and make sense. And now in between all of that,
Starting point is 00:48:48 they just have to not do too much of that to dampen the effect of seeing, yeah, you can't just only cameo bait people. And then maybe we get a slew of non-multaversal movies right after that, but until then. That'll be the new restrictions. Like, it's such a monoverse that that's causing problems now. That'll be a good 10 years, and then we'll swing back and forth, and then they have a big crisis.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Speaking of swinging back and forth, let's swing back to Caitlin. Caitlin, thank you for following up on the super chat. So RIP molten lava symbiote, you looked so cool, you did. You did. You did. What's the molten lava symbiote's name? Carl. It wasn't a direct pull.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It wasn't a singular. It's called Ouch. Yeah. It's called Groovie. It's called Groovie. I like that. I'd name him groovy, and I'd have him attached to, like, a modern-day hippie. And he would just be like, I don't like violence, man, but we've got to handle this.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Attach him to Risa Fons. Yeah, exactly, that's groovy. And then he gets to meet an alien. I was half hoping that he would get to be a symbiote. I really thought one of them would get symbiated. Like the little kid or something, and then he doesn't have to be afraid of aliens anymore. But yes, RIP Moulton Lava symbiote. I would watch like a symbiote's animated movie, Transformers 1 style.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Man, I love Transformers 1. Dude, we'll then get on that Venom Transformers one movie. Do you imagine Venom took over a Transformer? Not that. And the comics right now, G.I. Joe and Transformers are sharing a universe in comics. So, G.I. Joe, it's dope. The Intergon Universe is rad. Sounds like the movies are going to do that pretty soon as well.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Well, Clayton Crook. Thank you so much for your contribution to the conversation. Is a symbiote trilogy for Spider-Man 2? Much symbiote? Oh. Too much. It's a symbiote trilogy for Spider-Man. Too much.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Gotcha. Gotcha. So if we are about to embark, if we are about to embark upon a trilogy of Spider-Man films involving symbiotes with Tom Holland, is that too much symbiote? Oh, that was good. His movie and trailer is what I meant too much. This comment is written in the way Christopher Walken-Han-Han. has his scripts, you know, delivered to him with no punctuation.
Starting point is 00:51:07 New phonetics. Much Sryko. Oh, man. It's a little much. A little much. Okay, so I think a symbiate trilogy is a very smart thing to do if it's the black suit and then you evolve into the darkness of Tom Holland. We haven't really gotten to see that from Tom Holland yet. So I don't know darkness in him.
Starting point is 00:51:28 There's no darkness in him. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen those seeds planted. but it's the only time in all of comics where Secret Wars was already on the schedule and Tom needs a new suit. Like I feel like it literally lines up for that to happen. Secret Orrs
Starting point is 00:51:43 is where the symbiate came from in the comic books. I would love to see that. I don't think it's too much because I think the MC will handle it very differently. I see the Sony Universe is handling it like a beautiful love relationship because Venom and Eddie, the symbiate and Eddie forming Venom is
Starting point is 00:51:59 a symbiosis that is good for them. They needed it. whereas Peter and Spider-Man and the Venom symbiate is more of like a toxic relationship. Don't need that. So we haven't really seen like a... I want to see an addiction metaphor. And I think Tom Holland going into college,
Starting point is 00:52:15 I think he's alone. I think that's when you're most insecure. I think that's when addictions happen. So I think it's a really good time to tell the symbiate story and do it very differently over at Sony. If they'd let me write it, I'm right. Well, and if they happen to do some kind of more street-level movie, I feel like you could do a symbiate trilogy.
Starting point is 00:52:32 like what I envision is if they were able to orchestrate a version of the MCU for Spider-Man that feels like kind of like what spectacular Spider-Man felt like where it's like okay there's not just Venom we're not only going to focus on symbiotes for three movies maybe you can have that building and have a presence of the symbiote have the black suit addressed but like actually get a symbiote saga going over the course of three that maybe culminates in a third movie but the first two aren't like about that completely Because, yeah, it's like if we're just having a three-movie, six-hour, you know, and change, Spider-Man versus Venom Black Suit, you know, Saga, that could be much.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And he put the suit on Amazing Spider-Man 252 is the first appearance of the black suit in mainstream continuity outside of Secret Wars. And he doesn't get rid of it until Amazing Spider-O-29. Wow. So, 2502-29 is 47 issues. That's four years that he was in the black suit. So I would have it be a full film of literally him in the black suit. it not even be obvious how much it's corrupting him until the third act, him
Starting point is 00:53:36 lose it in the third act, and then you could have that turmoil in the second film, full on Venom in the third. I think it'd be a really interesting long game, but at least a movie in the black suit. We're in the long game now. And then have Tyler Perry direct to Black Suit, Spider-Man. Yeah, he's ready. I love Tyler. Tyler Perry is Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Hey, I would like Tyler Perry Black Cat. I'm down. I hear they're looking for Black Cat and Spider-Man 4, and they got just the purse. Hallelujah. See Black Back in action. Back in black. What a voice made for rock and roll. Do we get X-Men versus Avengers before Secret Wars?
Starting point is 00:54:13 I'm assuming that's what X-V-A means. That is. I would have thought that before the Doom announcement. Wait, what's X-V-A? Avengers versus X-Men. X-Men versus Avengers in this case. That, like, X-V-A is like a common thing that happens with the comics every few decades. They call it X-V-A?
Starting point is 00:54:28 The most recent one did. Sounds like a sports event. The X-FL. It's very high It's the extreme It's the extreme NBA. So I think that Avengers versus X-Men will happen, but I think that they're going to use the...
Starting point is 00:54:41 I personally, my hat take, I think they're only going to introduce the sporadic X-Men that is outside of the mainstream pop culture lexicon until Secret Wars. I don't think we're going to see your Scyclops, your game, but it's any of that. So I think those are going to come post... Go Sun, Super Wars.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Well, I think that honestly, they've introduced the concept of... Canon Ball. Yeah, I mean, I'd love to see Camel. But I... think that they might do Avengers versus X-Men as like the next post Secret Wars level event, but I
Starting point is 00:55:07 was thinking they'd do it with the old Fox X-Men after Deadpool and Wolverine, but then they announced the Downey thing, and now I'm not so sure. Oh, well, you know. Because it's so big of an announcement, like they don't want to crowd it. They should just introduce all the X-Men in an X-Men versus Avengers movie. All of them, at once. No lead-up.
Starting point is 00:55:23 All of them, yeah. They're all here. There's so much going on on the screen. Just like, you know, under roos, and then, like, Professor Xavier and Cyclops and everyone just shows up. Michael or Bamphs him with like 10 members. Exactly. How I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:55:37 No tension, all release. Yay. What I'm looking for. Yeah. I would be astonished if there was an XVA before Secret Wars. But after Secret Wars, they're going to need something to hype the people up for.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Cody Bubba Bishop. Peace be with you. And may the Lord smile upon you this day. And congratulations on ranking so highly in the church. It's not easy to do, and I hope you're not corrupt. I'm trying
Starting point is 00:56:07 to get into comic books, but it seems so overwhelming with the historical run of some series. Where should I start for DC or Marvel? There's thousands upon thousands of issues, Koi. I got this page. It's called Koi genre. It's on
Starting point is 00:56:23 YouTube. You can find weekly videos over there, where I break down the top nine comics the week. I try to stress which are approachable. I also do videos of what to read every time a movie a show comes out and that gives you the approachable jumping on points. But in very brief,
Starting point is 00:56:38 over at Marvel, there is this amazing thing called the ultimate line wherein they restart all continuity and give a new more modernized continuity for characters you know and love. They do their big guns in this ultimate version. In 2000 they did Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, Ultimate Ultimates. Oh, I went the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:56:56 The big guns. The big guns. The, yep, see? That's where they do it. Ultimate Arms. This is Ultimate Greg Alba. So what they do is they redo continuity in the modernized sense. So in the year 2000, you could get Ultimate Spider-Man. Read that whole run. It's amazing. Full nip.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Is YouTube going to, how was demonetization of nipples? We're going to find out after this dream. Yellow dollar sign forthcoming. Oh, now that's too far. Now that's too far. Yeah, the caress. Is the caress allowed? A man nipple is acceptable.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It alone is comedy, but then you touch it and now we're in a whole of the realm. You know, like that scene. Into the Wild The movies Rated Art because Emile Hirsch is like free and like that's crazy Nobody was touching it
Starting point is 00:57:38 It was just like nature You know nature Will get you get you going sometimes People love nature But is these out in nature The Rated Art anyway But then recently They just did
Starting point is 00:57:49 Ultimate they brought Ultimate back And there's a new Ultimate Spider-Man It's only an issue 10 And it's how you'd modernize the characters for 2024 So you can read the old one in 2000 Or the new one that just started in 2024 and they're both
Starting point is 00:58:00 really good jumping on point There's an Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Black Panther, Ultimates, which is like your Ultimate Avengers. They're all pretty great. And then over at DC, there's the absolute line of comics, which is the modernization of Batman just came out last month. Wonder Woman dropped this week. Superman comes out next month. So basically they're doing what Ultimate did in 2000, but with their modern characters.
Starting point is 00:58:19 So those are jumping on points clean, but every few years, D.C. does like a crisis event, and that gets new number ones. Every few year, Marvel just renumbers things. So there are opportunities to jump in, so you don't have to do the thousands of issues. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, with nipples. I had a comment here. I had a comment to make that I got lost in the editing. Oh, I know what I have.
Starting point is 00:58:41 My comment was a question. So they do multiple ultimates. Yes. So does every previous ultimate become penultimate? Ah, yes. Okay. I love that they're all different universes where those titles get to remain. So it doesn't get confusing having a new ultimate.
Starting point is 00:59:01 every so often? Well, it'd been about a 10 years. Like, 2001 ended in 2012, and then they didn't touch it again until 2024. So it had been a while since the ultimate imprint had been around. I see. So Ultimate ended in, like, 2012,
Starting point is 00:59:14 with the ultimatum. And that concluded the universe. And the characters, like, Miles Morales got brought over because he originated in the Ultimate Universe. So he got folded into our universe with an incursion event, which is, like, the events in Doctor Strange. So, wait, they do an ultimate as a way
Starting point is 00:59:27 of getting new number ones and jumping people in and then segueing them into the main continuity eventually the ultimate universe gets so complicated that it becomes the main continuity because if you think about it when a 10 year story runs it eventually is like well this isn't as streamlined as it started so they usually just wrap that up so like right now absolute which is dc's version is literally only on issues one of everything so we're good for a brand new fresh start you're good for a while so i would check out ultimates around issue one either
Starting point is 00:59:53 time 2000 or 2024 and absolute cote bish you've got homework to do all right get out there yeah hopefully that helped Or just pick up any random, you know, single issue and go from there. Oh, yeah. Also, I sometimes just go, I like this writer. I like this artist. Even if I look and I like the art, then I find other stuff they've done that helps me discover new characters, new creators. I also try to listen to people that are, like, versed in it.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So like I said, you can check out my page for, like, if you like this certain book, you can parallel over here. And yes, thank you for coming to the TED Talk with Nipples. Greg's only OF is live now. So go sub over there for more reaction with Nipple. videos. Sean McLaughlin, what's up? Thank you for being generous and for stoking the fire of our convo. I called Real Rejects customer service just now, and a guy called Greg rudely hung up on me after shouting, I'm the boss and not a background receptionist. We have been talking to him about this. He for weeks has this crazy, like, this ego growth where he thinks he's like CEO, Greg,
Starting point is 01:00:58 and it's been insane. ego. The background receptionist he got this like award and ever since he got this award he's been like parading it around the office and he's like putting it in his shoulder and he's like don't talk to me, talk to the award you know not to look me in the eyes anymore don't look at me only only gazed
Starting point is 01:01:13 in my eyes through the glass of the award it's so weird because you can't make eye content but if he moves the thing then you know you're allowed to talk to it and it's become this whole whole problem and process and frankly it has affected his reactions because you should see his Tyler Perry you know everything is different now
Starting point is 01:01:29 everything's changed once he became CEO Greg Boy oh boy CEO Greg has the mind virus It's really it's aggressive This new guy walking around the office Like he owns the place We gave him the phone to try and bring him back
Starting point is 01:01:42 Down to Earth and it's clearly not working He's like this is literally I literally Own the place and we're like yeah okay And now he's pulling out his nipples Way more than he ever did before I didn't I never doubted the chills before I believe to prove it now We've got the shirts
Starting point is 01:01:57 You got to, yeah, it's enough of a thing that you printed it on hundreds of T-shirts. All right, hey, call back, Sean, call back, and, you know, we'll have a disciplinary hearing with you on the line. And then, you know, we like to, yeah, involve people in the process. Golden Seeker Nintendo Entertainment System, thank you for joining in our chat here, for being so kind and generous. Is there a chance? The Venom franchise will something. somehow connect to Secret Wars in a way that Dr. Doom
Starting point is 01:02:31 could possess the symbiote power, and then we get Robert Downey Venom, Coy. That is so many things. I don't think that... Victor. Robert Downey, too. Robert Dutty. I personally don't think
Starting point is 01:02:47 that the symbiotee that we have will connect to Secret Wars because I think the MCU would want to have their own version of it. That's why they made it very clear. Inventon. Oh, now we can talk to Greg. Oh, yeah. Now, that says, you know, in like a camp when you have a talking stick, it's an award.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yes, this is the Spirit Award is what brings it out. I actually haven't seen this yet. This is really cool. Oh, yeah, you should hold it at least once. We all get to touch it. This is really cool. I want to. We all got to touch it.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I think Greg took it away. Literally haven't pulled it out of the box since we go. This is so cool. And it's awesome because it's made of glass. So you're like, wow, this really needs to be polished every time you look at it. I touch a thing. I'm like, I'm making this worse for myself. That is a beautiful award.
Starting point is 01:03:28 This is stunning. Fun fact, behind the scenes, this was a spotlight award. It's a special award that we won alongside Epic Games and Riot Games, my bad. Oh, I'm so sorry. Riot Games and us. And of all the recipients, we are the only two recipients of anything that actually got to leave with the award. With the award in hand because they're special and they're not the normal awards that get shipped to you later. Yeah, like I already had your name like etched.
Starting point is 01:03:54 This is like the real deal. This is so cool. My buddy, Andy won one last year and the year before, and he was saying how, like, we were such a welcome presence, and I wasn't even there. Like, he called me while I was in New York, and it was like, it was so good to see, like, the joy. Yeah, so this, I hadn't helped this yet. This makes me so happy. Very sweet, though. Really much appreciate it. And there so I can talk to Craig. And yes. Let him wield it.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah, Dr. Doom definitely wielding the symbi. I'm going to put a symbiative armor around the world. I personally don't see symbiates coming in from Sony. into Secret Wars. I see Secret Wars being born out of symbiates. I think we'll get new symbiate like MCU version out of the Secret War storyline like in the comics. Definitely. And then everyone has
Starting point is 01:04:37 a symbiode. It will get Black Black Panther. Yeah. And we'll get Black Dayne Whitman. We'll get Black Eros and we'll get Black Hercules and we'll get all those guys venomed out and then we will It's just I want to shine a light
Starting point is 01:04:53 Oh, that's a good. Just massage. me with it baby yeah massage me with that spotlight award yeah spotlight all my not light you got gemmed we got gemmed yeah um really heavy it's really heavy this is my shoulder is twitching yeah this is the exact kind of award that in like a netflix thriller you would like beat someone your death with in a fit of rage and then have to like oh no clean it off and it's always staring at you and judging you because you You did that. Surprisingly really heavy.
Starting point is 01:05:27 This actually makes me buy more horror movies they kill people with awards because have now held the violent. But it's also really cool just to look at because it's so prismic and it's like a big hunk of glass. They're a kaleidoscope. Yeah, it's got a kaleidoscopic quality. Have you ever held an Emmy? They're so sharp.
Starting point is 01:05:41 No. Emmys are like murder weapons because it's this heavy but the tops all pointy. Yeah, you should like hyperviolence. You should shine a laser through this and like, you know, refract a light. Oh, yeah. We're fancy. What is this? What's a made out?
Starting point is 01:05:55 fancy glass yeah you know i actually haven't read or like you haven't read the award it's three lines yeah it's either glass or some kind of plexi it's like off the stage just like let everyone else hold it look at this is amazing everybody in the audience is like okay guys glad you won an award beautiful okay so uh i don't think they'll come that way but we appreciate it our next one is going to be who who's that Who's that from? Well, I don't know yet, but it says, Happy Early Halloween from Michelle. Hey, Michelle.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I like your use of emoji. Thanks for being here, Michelle. What are your favorite scary movies? Asks in Ghostface voice. Have to reread. Oh. Happy early Halloween. No, what's the ghost?
Starting point is 01:06:36 Uh, what's your favorite scary movie? Nope. Happy early Halloween, Sydney. What are your favorite scary moves? It's real good. Nicely done. Hey. Um, I.
Starting point is 01:06:45 You should see John's Penguin. Happy early Halloween. What are your favorite scary movies? Coy, do your favorite movie. The squint made me nervous. Happy early Halloween. What are your favorite scary movies, Victor? Ghostface voice.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I actually found I'm friends with someone who's very close friends with him, and he said he could probably arrange an interview. Dude. With the penguin? Have you met him? My Rushmore. With Oz Cobb? He's given me places to visit Ireland recommendations.
Starting point is 01:07:20 No, no, not. I'm not called him. Oh, he said Victor. Oh, Renzi. Renzi's a delight. I did set visits him for runaways. I love Renzi. He's a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And he's stupid, talented. Like, he's so kind. Colin Farrell's on Rushmore, Renzi is also a very good interview. Oh, but I have Colin Farrell's phone number. Oh, they text him. Tell me how to come in. He goes to the Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Can we just do voices at each other? Can we not interview? Can we just yell Colin Farrell voice of Penguin at him? Yes to the Starbucks. Cabin in the Woods. Does he do there? Really? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Yeah, yeah, like the one like nearby, yeah. You really goes there? Actually. Sometimes, yeah. Like the one on, don't say it, by Fat Burger? Don't you, don't you docks us, Greg? Yes. Don't you docks Colin Farrell?
Starting point is 01:08:02 It is the one you're thinking of. Yeah, the one right here. Yeah. And he's been spotted multiple times, so he must. Spot it. Yeah, he's been, we've had sighting. I just had coffee and noticed him. I didn't know he was a man who was spotted to the, at a coffee beep.
Starting point is 01:08:15 No, coffee beat. Did you answer this question? We haven't actually answered it. No. I was trying. I got enchanted by Colin Farrell. Kevin the Woods. I love the Scream franchise.
Starting point is 01:08:27 It's probably my favorite Slashier franchise. Hereditary is probably the movie that scared me most as an adult and I reacted to it on this channel. It really got in my bones. Did not enjoy that time. Loved the movie.
Starting point is 01:08:38 We'll never watch it again. I watched Casper last night, which I fucked with pretty heavy. As far as like those fun ambletting feel films. I got to watch Casper again. Dude, it was so good. It held up so well.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I forgot that there's a montage of cameos in it from like Rodney Dangerfield to Mel Gibson. Oh, wow. There's like a whole sequence that felt like a Marvel cameo like it was crazy. I've forgotten all about that. And then what else? Horror movie wise. I love a quiet place for modern horror. Quiet place
Starting point is 01:09:07 is pretty good. I like Quiet place. Strange things on TV is pretty dope. I mean, that's kind of the obvious answer. I mean, there's so many good ones. I mean, I'm like I want to come up with some kind of interesting. I mean, you're talking just in general or for Halloween time i mean like in general i love the thing i love texas chainsaw
Starting point is 01:09:24 massacre a big fan of like house of thousand corpses and the devil's rejects uh sleepy hollows great i like a lot yeah it's a jason i would i would allow it okay her jason i love the crow a lot um i love a night of living dead i love a uh the witch is great um big lost boys guy sure sure american psycho i don't know if that counts uh the others Love the Others. That's a great movie. I think Nope is definitely like a modern classic, a la your Hitchcock's and your Stephen King O.G's in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Oh, certainly. I like the insidious movies. Oh, I love Black Phone. Black Phone's probably my favorite, like, single, not franchise. Like, Cabin of the Woods is fun and horror, but like scary, singular Black Phone, I think. Go watch a movie called Hexon, if you have it. It's a movie from the 20s, and it's wild.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Oh, get out because I got caught doing that. the kidnapping and the tea yeah I got caught I've never does I have a black conscience I actually felt seen but not by the main character
Starting point is 01:10:31 you would have voted for Obama a third time I felt caught if it didn't oh I see why is this exposing my lifestyle yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean what are you gonna do
Starting point is 01:10:42 what are you gonna do people like the new smile does beyond the black rainbow oh Mandy if that's a horror movie that count Monster Squad Coraline Mandy is great you see why we want to be
Starting point is 01:10:51 award from all this candy man is great Hellraiser's great I really like the new candy man quite a bit with Yaya isn't the new candy man I like to watch it again I've not seen any of the terrifiers Greg Greg is aficionado now
Starting point is 01:11:07 the new candy man was why I was so excited for the Marvels no I wasn't Neida Costa I love you and they let you make your movies yeah when they let you do your thing this episode is sponsored by Friskies who would like to tell your cats, hi. Now, if that didn't get your cats' attention, there's one thing that always does the trick. Just pour some friskies, crunchy food in the bowl, and you'll hear those paws come
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Starting point is 01:12:56 Love your beard, man. Great beard. Great beard. Great beard. Quality beard. Every beard. He's got the oils. We're going to be importing so much beard oil.
Starting point is 01:13:06 It's insane. Just Saw Venom 3. It feels like Sony is trying to do the same thing. You did. Just rush into big event films without setting it up with good. movies. Kind of. I mean, the thing about Venom 3
Starting point is 01:13:24 to me, like... Venom 3 to me. Venom 3 to me. With the quality of the cinematic experience. Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it felt like the Venom trilogy of all the things in the Sony Spider-Verse has had its opportunity to gestate, so it didn't feel to me necessarily like they were rushing into, like, the Andrew
Starting point is 01:13:50 Garfield Spider-Man movies into like we gotta have a Sinister six movie right this minute that never
Starting point is 01:13:55 came to fruition but it also does feel like a rushed thing anyway so I do
Starting point is 01:14:02 kind of feel what you're feeling here in a sense like I don't necessarily think it it feels rushed
Starting point is 01:14:09 because they were trying to get to some major event flick I just feel like it was rushed in general but Koi
Starting point is 01:14:16 weigh in on this I'm sorry it was a distracted by her faces. I personally don't feel like they're doing what the DCU did because the DCU did a Batman and Superman movie second like choice and then rushed to like they went okay we got this one Superman movie. What if we don't do a Superman too?
Starting point is 01:14:32 We do a mini Justice League because you remember Wonder Woman was in Batman versus Superman. They literally jumped to hella crossover. So for me personally, I don't quite feel that way. I do see what you're saying as far as like trying to bring everything together. But I think that's what everyone's done since Iron Man like made the Avengers work. I mean, look at the dark universe of monster movies. The mummy with Tom Cruise that didn't know where. Like, I think the shared universe thing is very hard to do,
Starting point is 01:14:57 and that's why I'm excited for James Gunn because I think he can do it. But I don't personally feel that from Sony. No, and I feel like weirdly, if anything, they have done like a lot of, you know, solo-ish building movies, and I'm just like, I don't even know what the culmination is trying to be. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fun little shotgun blast as they say. absolutely but you know
Starting point is 01:15:22 hocus pocus also great spidey sense thank you for being a part of this conversation we tried and failed to get a Gina themed to get Gina themed t-shirts what do we need to do to get some
Starting point is 01:15:37 coy themed t-shirts coy pond what we got man I'm working on designing an internet shirt internet so that's my goal and then after that who knows what might happen but I'm working on shirts it's a it's a slow shirt I want to be good I also want to do like a nice heavy cotton like I have a certain like quality goal with the with the shirts which
Starting point is 01:15:58 I love the reject shirts luckily so I have a good place to start I'm going to learn from Greg but I want to do some quay shirts they're coming I don't know when but they're coming I'm just a shirt with your face on it I want to do so internet the idea is someone's going to steal this but I'm going to give it away steal this album is I want to have internet and then an exclamation point and then the dot the exclamation points by my face hey but I guess you can't say that's going to But, yeah, that's the idea of that shirt. It's a detail for anybody who's close enough to really look at you today.
Starting point is 01:16:23 A little dot. Sean of the Dead, also another favorite horror experience there. Oh, yeah. I think I'll design a Koi-themed T-shirt, and it's going to say, We-Dem-Coys. Uh-huh. Oh, I like that. De-Coy's. We-Dem-Coy's.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Uh, a Masshole Monday's with Koi. Uh, maybe me and Roxy. Yeah, and you get Dunkins and you just like say. What's a masshole? Uh, Massachusetts asshole? Yeah, that's correct. Just put it together now. Like, actually?
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. You just said it out of here. Wait a second. I adore a question that answers itself. As spoken. Yeah. Proud Massel. Roxy said it in some video and I had to like type it.
Starting point is 01:17:02 I inserted it when I was editing it. That's hilarious. I don't know what this means. To us that's like second. It's an asshole who regularly attends mass. It's actually when you eat too much and you've got too much mass coming out of your asshole. Oh. No, it's a.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Masshole is. A term of a deerment for us, Massachusetts residents. If you're from the Commonwealth kid, you know what a macehole is. But are we allowed to say it as non-mass holes? I'd say it's a lighted off derogative. All right. If I call some guy a masshole, he's not going to be like, what do you say to me? Depends on the mass hole.
Starting point is 01:17:34 You sock, clucka. Were you offended by that video, Coy, when we were all like, glad Coy's not here? Oh, I thought it was funny. Some of the people I showed it to were like that scene. I was like, I guess I know them too well, or I don't get the joke. Because I thought it was funny. But other people, other people were like, wow, that's like really harsh. And I was like, it seems very satirical.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Oh, boy. That's the joke. Yeah, I got it. I was like I couldn't be there. Stay married sure I was there. I took it as like I was a spirit floating. The joke was like, Koi likes attention. So we don't want.
Starting point is 01:18:04 We don't want. We're glad he's not here, but the whole video is about Koy. It's ironic. I share it immediately. And then I also, Olivia's face in the montage was so fun. Like when there was a big group shot of like, Just kidding, and she's like, No, I'm not kidding at all.
Starting point is 01:18:22 That was amazing. Yes. So, yeah, big, big fan of that video. I personally thought it was fun. Jordan Garz is going to design you a comic book art-esque face. And he works at an alamo. I respect this man more by the moment. You guys are cut of the same collo-coil off. Christian Unpronounceable.
Starting point is 01:18:37 What's up out in Canada? Your money's worth more than ours. I appreciate you very much for being here. I just wanted to say, get that health care, the universal health care. and you have no problems other than that that's not a problem.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I just want to say in the beginning I wasn't too sure but now I kind of love you guys if you know you know is it because of the audio
Starting point is 01:19:03 yeah I think so I think it's at the beginning you're talking about I think Christian dropped that in around the middle yeah
Starting point is 01:19:11 I know why you're here now we get it he came over from new rock stars just one just for Christian, just because Christian's been so kind. New rock stars brought them over. Pull it back out. Oh, we got to get some
Starting point is 01:19:22 chilly thoughts going on. Yeah. We got to get them excited again, folks. That's okay. That's okay. That looked like. Christian isn't enough to get you chili? They look like plant based pepperonies, right? Very specific nip aesthetics. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I know. Exactly. It doesn't quite look like a
Starting point is 01:19:39 pepperoni. It looks like an approximation of a pepperoni. It's like you're trying to trick my mind. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like somebody it's like somebody airbrush painted a pepperoni and you're like this is pretty convincing but it's not the real thing yeah it's like one of those optical illusion sidewalk painting all right i want to do reactions with this energy yes and then have the little box there and it's like the trio of us and then yeah and then tune in for agatha series finale just yeah john did you know there's more underworld movie
Starting point is 01:20:12 yes there's four yeah there's like five i did not know that Yeah. I thought it ended at 3. No, there's one without Kate Beck and Sale. Then she comes back. Yeah. Yeah. I bet down.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I mean. I had no idea until recently. Green that light. Oh, yeah, I thought we just stopped after 3 because, like, I feel like most people really like the trilogy and people like part 3 a lot. And then, yeah, I thought it was just sort of like, well, we'll see. But yes, there are at least 5. C. Black, dude, you've been all over the super chats today.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Thank you so much. Spider-Man 4 has to be on Battleworld Oh, it's an Agatha referenced What we just The last comment The last super chat Oh, because it was you all along No, no, scroll down to last one
Starting point is 01:20:56 The nipples all along No, pre-nipples In the beginning I wasn't too sure But now I kind of love you guys That was a quote From Agatha Guys We haven't slept
Starting point is 01:21:07 Since Agatha Oh, coy Good catch man I just wanted to give that some more That was a good catch. Christian Unpronounceable. Thank you for making an Agatha reference. As the biggest fan of the show in this room,
Starting point is 01:21:21 I'm sad. I missed it, and I'm sorry for you. High five point. As the biggest fan of episode seven in this room, I now can get quotes. Yeah. Spider-Man 4 has to be on Battleworld after Dooms Day.
Starting point is 01:21:32 You got a look at the elbow. But I wasn't looking. That's so crazy how that works. Dooms Day. The elbow thing is baffling. It's so crazy. Like since childhood, I've never understood it. I guess because it's a foreground experience
Starting point is 01:21:42 where the impact happens. So as long as you're looking in the background, it's instinct. But that's such a weird way for the human mind to make this connection, to have your eyes not look at the item that's actually interfering because then you're overthinking it. Who invented the high five? A drunk, for sure. It was Lord Aloysius Five. Have we ever derailed from a live chat to such a level?
Starting point is 01:22:01 We just start clapping with two people. This is like, we're getting into that Eric Andre territory right now. We're going to get avant with this thing. We're going to start like wrecking the set. Yes. doing like straight. Anyway, Spider-Man 4, Doom's Day, Battleworld. What do you think, Coy? Spider-Man 4, yes.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I think that's how it's multiversal. I think. I think Noll gets involved. And then I think the fourth film takes place in the pocket universe that Doom commands, and then that allows the symbiate enclave and the multiversal stuff that Sony wants.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Basically, that pocket universe can allow for Toby, Andrew, null, all the stuff. So I do think that's coming because of where the film is, in the schedule. It's also crazy that it's like mere, you know, weeks after Dooms Day, and it's also two weeks after his Nolan film.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Next year, 2020s is the year of Tom Holland. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's in the new, Christopher Nolan, maybe 1920s vampire movie. He'll have three leading roles in one year, and they're an Avengers film, a Spider-Man film, and a Nolan film. Let's go. That dude's going to make so much money in 2020s. Dude,
Starting point is 01:23:06 oh my goodness gracious, we've got a whole other special. Lambourke and Dusty Baker, the most Wiley accepted origin story involves Glenn Burke and outfield there for the Los Angeles Dodgers and his teammate Dusty Baker. On October 2nd, 1977 during a game against the Houston Astros, Dusty Baker hit his 30th home run of the season. When he returned to the dugout, Burke excited for his team out spontaneously raised his hand and Baker slapped it, thus creating the high five. The high five quickly spread from baseball into other sports. and into the broader popular culture,
Starting point is 01:23:45 its simplicity in the way it allowed for celebration and acknowledgement without physical contact until the actual slap made it popular. That's crazy. That's insane. The Dodgers invented the high five. No one had ever done it before. Why aren't the Dodgers more popular? This should be their trademark.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah, why is their symbol not the high five? This should be what they're known for. Dodgers Stadium, home of the high five. They're known for hot dogs. The World Series was on yesterday. And I was like, screw that. But if I had known the event of the high five, I'd be at Dodgers Stadium right now. You'd all show your goddamn respect when the Dodgers are playing.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Wow, they invented the high five. Borat has to pay them every time he says it. I'm mind-blown by this. This is crazy. Also, the fact that the high-five was only invented in 1977, the other time Hardy was invented, that's crazy. Yeah, nobody ever, ever slapped their hands together in an upward fashion before that. Not intentionally. Not intentionally.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Never once happened, ever. You got to take interest in things. beyond your bubble. That's right. I got to take a look outside the mirror once in a while. That's going to be a great conversation starter. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 01:24:50 High five. I'm baffled. You know, that's only been around since 1977, roughly, October 2nd? It happened spontaneously. Was Dusty Baker the manager, Mike Joyce? Mike Joyce invented a high five as well. Guys, Tom Hardy's born September 15, 1977.
Starting point is 01:25:03 He is only three weeks older than the high five. Lesse le Bon Ton roulette? What do we got? I don't know what to do with Zs in French Cajun, so you'll have to bring it back. Flying the Freying Scotsman. We talked about
Starting point is 01:25:19 Spider-Man 4 at all. Spider-Man, that's a perfect segue. We were live for a while. Guys, guess what? Tom Holland has confirmed that Spider-Man 4 is going to start shooting. It was about, like, 5 in the morning. It was about, yeah, it was something like.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry. Pray forgot those shout-outs. Don't even trip. Yeah, for both the podcasts and I don't know, just ignore it, man, I'm done with you. No, I got back on. They're in. Don't worry. You got him. You said, you yourself said, you get them in by and the day, it'll be fine. I'm like, okay, they're in. Hey, there is going to be shooting.
Starting point is 01:25:57 They're going to shoot Spider-Man for Tom Holland said in, I can't remember if it was... Spring 2025, right? Spring 2025. Because it comes out summer 2026. Yeah, so we have a confirmation of when they're going to start shooting, and we have a confirmation of when they hope to release it as well as Tom Holland basically talking up the script you know saying that they have a strong idea and he's very hype about it and you know ready to go getting in there doing the table reads and whatnot so this is further along than I even expected and I just want to say from just a statement of business I love that Sony and Marvel are letting him do this himself and
Starting point is 01:26:34 promote his beer because like what that's how these quotes came out oh he's on doing He's like a recovering alcoholic or something? Yeah, it's a non-alcoholic beer called Beiro, which I think is such a cheeky name because it's both Beer Zero and Hero and a Beer Bureau. And Tom Holland's Bureau is what he's promoting and he's getting to announce all these Spider-Man announcements and getting tons of press for his company. So him and Zendaya are doing a non-alcoholic beer company. So does his hair look like this now? That is when you go sober. How often do you think of the Roman Empire?
Starting point is 01:27:08 That is sober. sober hair That's what happens Yeah That is when you go Sober I don't understand the hair He's so handsome
Starting point is 01:27:17 He just needs a little Roman crown Oh my God He saw Gladiator 2 at a screening And he was like I'm gonna change my whole personality I don't understand his hair So he had the Daniel Radcliffe Experience
Starting point is 01:27:28 Yeah change the game Except he's creating a beer On top of that I think Tom Holland Has handled this Pivot out of drinking In a really cool way Because he's been
Starting point is 01:27:37 very outspoken about the dangers of it for him his experience. And then everyone does an alcohol, right? Like, the rocks got one. Ryan Reynolds has one. Like, it's a thing, like, it's in the culture. And I love that he's kind of an advocate for a non-alcoholic beer.
Starting point is 01:27:48 If you so choose, like, I personally like my beer with booze in it. But if you don't, I think it's a really cool way to kind of start a business. And I love that it's with Sundaya. This dude loves his girl so much. And, like, it shows in every moment. So the fact that they're doing a business together, the fact that he just wants to, like, retire in a few years. I could see him doing a surge of these movies and just disappear in the pop culture lexicon. It's like the new Tom Holland.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I'm just, I'm being so sweet to this guy. Lloyd Christmas is sober, all right. Sober king, sober king. Just look at this guy. Sober king. He does. It's just a little bit like, his bangs are messy. It's also tricky when you look at old photos and you can see.
Starting point is 01:28:25 I know, his old photos is like, so handsome. Like, look at this like Hollywood hair that he's got in these old photos. Yeah. You know what I'm going for, I don't know. Is he like playing like a monk or a priest or something? I mean, he's working for Nolan. doing some craziness i don't know yeah that's well they all all the alcohol went to his hair again look at an abs yeah i mean he's an acrobat that guy's like shred city damn calorie cut baby yeah
Starting point is 01:28:48 that's that's not a happy man other than that the smile is just for the moment oh my god freaking before he goes back to eating a hundred chickens a day but yeah i think i think it's very sweet totally what happened to the super chats i don't know crypto i can't even see the screen i don't even know it's just pictures of tom holland everywhere what happened to everything did i close I think they've been usurped by these windows. Oh, my bad. You're good. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:29:12 I'm on the side of it. The narrative. You got to really like beer, too. Like, they must really like beer to create a, like. Should we insert ads? Non-alcoholic beer. Should we insure? Yeah, throw man.
Starting point is 01:29:26 And Sprits, spritz fits. I think I just didn't add for bureau for free. So frankly, he owes you a case at least. Tom Holland. You got my number. You text me. Give it that bureau. Spritz fits. We have not talked about crypto yet.
Starting point is 01:29:39 We're going to have crypto in Superman, Koi. Are you excited? We've got to get that Tate, crypto. Oh, we haven't talked about crypto. You're right. That was like two weeks ago. We're going to get that Tate. Oh, you mean crypto the dog.
Starting point is 01:29:50 We got to get Superman coin. It's going to be a plot line in the new movie. You were talking about cryptocurrency. Yeah. Get that crypto. Get Clark coins. Very confident. Clark is trying to save the blockchain in the new Superman movie.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Did you guys answer this question? Let's see No Flying Scotsman I'd read his name And then we got usurped By the history of the high five Flying Scotsman
Starting point is 01:30:16 4072 Thank you for joining our chat And for being so kind Hey there Hey there rejects If Sony were to do a live Action Spider-Rare's film Would ye like to see that
Starting point is 01:30:33 Hasn't been What would you like to that hasn't been told in the animated films. The Spider Totem stuff hasn't really been approached. They've done a good job with the Spider Society and their canon for the Spider-Man Universe, but there's this really cool concept that led into the Spider-Verse by J. Michael Strzinski. It was The Amazing Spider-Man, Volume 2, Issue 30.
Starting point is 01:30:58 The character was introduced named Ezekiel, which they wasted in Madam Webb. But the character had this great idea about Spider Totems, which they wasted in, Madam Webb, that is why there are so many animal-based villains that fight Spider-Man. And there's this cool idea of, like, when you look at Spider-Man's villains, they're tech and they're animal, they're animal, there's Scorpion, there's Rhino, and there's all these ideas that these animalistic qualities tie to this totem that is Spider-Man, and he represents this great, like, unifying force, and that ties into the Spider-Verse of, like, the importance of certain characters.
Starting point is 01:31:27 So I think I'll have actually be kind of cool to tell, like, a mythical, almost horror-adjacent story about Spider-Totems that could tie into Clipso, that could tie into... to Craven really well. They could tie into a lot of stuff that's more of the horror side of Spider-Man. So in live action, that's what I would do. And I'd also introduce, like, there's, in addition of Morlin,
Starting point is 01:31:47 which we haven't seen at all, I think Ezekiel Morlin, and those supporting characters of people hunting spiders for their totems would be cool because it's like a vampiric element. I like your idea, Koi. I have two ideas.
Starting point is 01:31:58 All right. The first one, make it like Jet Leaves the one. Oh. Where spider Peter Parker, there's one Peter Parker who's like Arch and he's just going through every universe killing Peters taking their powers
Starting point is 01:32:11 and then our friendly neighborhood Spider-Man has to step in and he has to save the day because he's a nice guy and in the middle of that we can have some cool heavy metal music some slow-mo fight scenes look at Jet Lee can play a Spider-Man in one of the alternate universe he's ready either that or
Starting point is 01:32:28 great soundtrack to the heck yeah right gave us let the bodies hit the floor and the disturbed down to thickness It's so hard to do that. It really is. But check this out also. Multiverse film where Spider-Man, Multiverse opens up.
Starting point is 01:32:46 It's Jellie's first birthday. Damn, it's one of the most iconic Chinese film stars, if you can know that. Martial actor turned 60 years ago. This was just one year ago. But he looks so young in all the footage that we're watching. Don't you agree? Gang? Oh my God, look at him on set being so professional.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Jetli as Spider-Man in my other pitch for this, right? He goes to the multiverse and you think it's going to be cool, but then it's the universe where it's like every Spider-Man he meets, piece of crap. No, is like a mutated man spider or is just a bunch of spiders in the shape of a man or is like some kind of like, they're all mutated and messed up. And he's the only one who's just like a regular kid and he lucked out and he's fine for the most part.
Starting point is 01:33:32 And so he mercifully has to travel the multiverse, killing all of these, like, abomination Spider-Men who just want to be put out of their misery. And, yeah, it's like a mercy-killing euthanasia story. As wishing the actor a very happy birthday. Your story is so violent, and I knew it in some unfault man, Spider, but the whole time you told that Jetli is now available in your country. Yeah, because Jetli's going to play Spider-Man. Jetli's going to be Uncle Ben. If someone's never seen our channel, imagine someone's never seen our channel, and they, just cut to you, Jetlius Blake at the bottom,
Starting point is 01:34:05 and then at the end of a two-minute story, you just go, euthanasia story. Like, the idea that that journey we just went on, like, 339 people are currently going. What? And I just, I enjoyed that. That was great. What a five?
Starting point is 01:34:23 Or third pitch. Every other Peter Parker pitch. Or every other Peter Parker is just a normal game. And there's only one who's actually Spider-Man, and it's a big letdown. He travels the multiverse, and he's like, wow, I have it so much better in all these places. There's just not that much crime. Just like, I get to live a cool life. I'm black in this one, and I'm still called Peter Parker.
Starting point is 01:34:47 That's odd. You know, but otherwise. Oh, my God, the video audio is playing for them. I had no idea. I'm so sorry. Oh, yeah. I didn't know. There's too much going on.
Starting point is 01:34:58 So they heard. We couldn't hear it. I had no idea. That's weird. I wonder how that happens. I thought they, I didn't know you guys. Just some audio of Jetley's birthday celebrations. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:35:11 That's good. Hey, Jetly deserves his flowers. On our end, we couldn't hear it. Jetly deserves all the flowers. I'm sorry, everyone. Wow. Don't even trip. Don't even trip.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Did they hear my pitch, though? If they didn't get to hear my pitch, John, give it again. All right. Guys, give it a more time. The ethical euthanasiaverse. Here we go. Give you one more time, John.
Starting point is 01:35:35 So, okay. Spider-Man, get this. You can do it better, God. All right. So the first pitch, Jet Lee's the one, but with Spider-Man, there's the evil Peter who's taking all the powers up and good Peter has to stop him. You know what we do. Drowning pool songs all the way.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Then second movie, Peter, he's like, oh, cool, multiverse. I'll travel around and meet other versions of me and I'll maybe gain some perspective. But then when he gets there, he finds out that they're all mutated. There's a man spider. There's a bunch of spiders that are all amalgamated. made into the shape of a man. There are just mutants in Kronenbergs, and they're all looking to be put out of their misery,
Starting point is 01:36:08 which Peter Parker, the one who's just like the cool Spider-Man we know, has to do the most heartbreaking mission, setting all of these poor souls free as a true hero and savior of the euthanasiaverse. And then, yeah, last one where everyone's just normal, and Peter Parker's like, man, being Spider-Man kind of sucks in comparison to every other universe where I'm just a normal kid and there's not that much crime. That's cool, man.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yeah, these are good pitches. That's really good. I'm going to flesh all these out. That's really amazing. I'm going to flesh all of these out. Jet Lee is going to play Peter Parker and some of them. You know, Jet Lee's going to play Uncle Ben and Aunt May and some of them. John Campi.
Starting point is 01:36:50 It's definitely a weird birthday party for Jetley in the Reject House or a year late. Yep. To that birthday party. Are you drowning us out with Campia? They can't hear it. It's a campier. Muted, you muted. You muted, they can't be a rant.
Starting point is 01:37:05 All right. All right, last two super chats of the day. Get your final ones in, people. Here we go. Here we go. Have y'all seen Caitlin wants to know. Caitlin, again, holding it down in the super chats. Thank you so much for being so kind and generous today.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Have y'all seen The Prestige? If not, please watch it. That is, please clap. That's a great Nolan movie. It's an underrated Nolan movie. And oftentimes, I feel like when the pantheon of the Nolanverse is brought up a conversation, I feel like people often reach for the prestige as one of the like, you know what, people don't bring this up, but it's actually one of the great ones.
Starting point is 01:37:44 So love the prestige. Yeah, big fan of prestige, love the twist, love the way it shot. The movie is visually stunning. And it's got Bowie as Tesla. It does. Two people I enjoy very much, Tesla and Bowie. So a big, big in with it. Pull up some magic tricks in spirit of the prestige.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Let's see some magic tricks. Greg. Engineer Greg. Producer Anderson. Jamie. Guy on the chair. Jamie, can you pull up some of people falling down? Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Wow. Wow, man. Wow, man. Wow. Can you believe that? Crazy. Wow. Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Wow. All right. Why is Joe in Campi? Why is he not on screen? We're always fighting his streams. You know, we're always like, that's why you put the mind. That's why we're just pulling him in here to get that. There you go.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Oh. Wait, I get, hold on. Let me do it live. Let me do it live. here we go whoa hold on three harder on camera because you got to work the angles there you three whoa two oh koi's better at it than me oh you got to get the right angle this is thing that's how sausage is made i spoke up to a lot of negative comments today guys i'm not
Starting point is 01:38:48 tired that's why we're bringing this energy i mean i'm also very tired and i will go to negative both are true are our gregg's eyes are ever or mine because neither of us smoked i just haven't slept in days i haven't smoked a while okay yeah i don't know why my eyes look like Why am I literally. My eyes are so rapid. I should go to say. The last one of the day. Kenson.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Do we know more stream labs? Were you going on stream labs? Yeah, man. All right. Cool. No one cares about the stream labs. Because I'm none of the thumbnail. Because no one doesn't want to.
Starting point is 01:39:18 CEO Greg needs to be on the thumbnail for us. You should put your face on all of our face. I'm simultaneously the most dislike person here and the most. I think we call that running a chance. That's what happens when you get fan. You can tell how far you climbed by the amount of arrows in your back. That's true. My page may just be called quadrondra, but I'm the most hated and most liked there, too.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I like that you just have magic on screen for us now. Kenson. Read the tamping from Kenson. Thank you so much. I'm going to read it from the left monitor. You guys are the best. Thank you so much, Kenson. You're the best.
Starting point is 01:39:52 And thank you for being here on the stream. Thank you for contributing, stoking the convo. Funny. You guys inspired me to get my. Ass in the gym. Hey. P.S. P.S. I still love the sarcasm and humor, by the way.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I think Greg finally passed me. Does the wink? No, you're still bigger. You've got way bigger arms than Nikoi. I'm not. Did you work out today? I haven't worked out today. I haven't worked out yet.
Starting point is 01:40:17 I did. Did you get a hiking? I woke up and carried my body here. My arms are also out of focus. That's it. Well, mine are just white, so I think you have more definition out of focus than I do because you got mell. Melanin
Starting point is 01:40:30 Dude You got that melon You do have a little bit of that Wow guys Yeah I just don't want to embarrass you By by flexing my own muscles I would
Starting point is 01:40:42 I need something You guys are It's cute You guys are doing You guys are getting there We're doing our best We're just trying to keep up Dude did you see C-Bomb retired
Starting point is 01:40:53 Who is that? Who is C-Bomb? Mr. Olympia Six times out of the last eight No way Dude, Chris Mumstead is a genius, and he's such like a good man. Like, he's actually like a well-spoken, articulate sweetheart. No.
Starting point is 01:41:06 He retired. And on stage, he said it's important that men, like, hug people that care about and love on him. Like, he's literally the strongest, like, biggest dude on a stage saying, like, you know, love on each other. Damn, dude. That's like the opposite of taxic masculinity. Using, like, a platform of games to say, like, love one another? Well, it's a trick, though, because the second he starts hugging, you know, an opponent, he's going to crush the life out of it. That's true. Just like, love.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Yeah. Pull up Chris Bumstead. Look up for Tepin C-Bum. He's a beast. Come on it, engineer. There he goes. Look at those thighs. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Chris, what now? But, just two C-bum. C-B-U-M-C-bum. It'll pop up. Chris. C-bum. Look at this guy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:41:47 He could actually fly. Crazy. He could actually catch some air under those things. Dorado back for days. Jim Sharks. Look at that. Look at that pump cover on that guy. Pump covers the size of quilt.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Get a punk. Look at that monster. I know what's going on. This guy's a pump on my lap at all the time. So much well for C-bum. What a, beast. Oh, no. Yes, I think a guitar off is definitely, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:42:07 The gains were too big to handle. They broke the frame. Yeah, he just busted out of the frame. He was just so yoked and jacked and swollen and ripped and what an angel. What an angel. The last dance. Oh, there we go. It's timely.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Oh, it is. The last dance. The last dance. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I want to see this man's naughty. That man's naughty. That man.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Man's body. Mr. Olympia six times. Look at that stage. Here it goes. Here it goes. Dude, the way he's got like these crazy like glute straations. Look at him. So like his glutes have better stress than those chests because he's got no body fat.
Starting point is 01:42:44 But that wing span, he's got interesting little like. Oh my God. The connecting muscles between where his lats connect to his spine are insane. That looks really disgusting. It's so awesome. His delts are. like bigger than most people's biceps.
Starting point is 01:43:00 God, look at all that beautiful. Look at all that meat. Look at all that mass. Oh my God. Look it just gets. He's like so wide. It's a thick boy.
Starting point is 01:43:09 That is too much. That's a lot of muscle and flesh. That is too much. I just love it, man. It's just such beefy greatness. Like you just see. Look at the hard work. Like that stage is full of more hard work than
Starting point is 01:43:20 I mean, just that one stage is probably three states worth of people that actually have any effort. Are you sure about that? Look, that's all pure and dirt Oh, God, that is nasty. Man, it's gorgeous. That is not my...
Starting point is 01:43:32 Big fan. And the level of cut, you have to be to inhale like that and have, like, that level of etch in your abs. No body fat, actual bulbous abs that then get deflated by the cut. So it just lives that way. That's crazy. I'd like, like, a quarter of this, but I... Dude, and his pectoralis, the upper versus lower,
Starting point is 01:43:52 has an actual segmenting. Like, the peck has... Look at the separation. It's incredible. Restorolo in there. It's incredible. It's pretty impressive, actually. Dude.
Starting point is 01:44:03 And he's a nice guy. That's the craziest part. Someone like that that level of determination and endurance and gains, sweetheart. You could prepare a taco right between those. I did just put your taco shell right between the peck. It was really just the glutes. The glutes are terrified. The glutes are just kind of.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Because he has no fat. So his body's just muscle holding it up. It just looks like bizarre. It's great because you don't see that in nature. That's not natural. How bizarre. It's not natural. Yep.
Starting point is 01:44:28 You're okay. Well, I think we're done. That little moment's going to go on so many websites. We need to talk more about Venom. I think we're done. We haven't said enough about Venom. We're barely talked about Venom. We're definitely done.
Starting point is 01:44:42 What a weird live stream, you guys. This might be one of the weirder ones. There was a high five segment. There was, you know, booty striations. You know, guys. Did you not? Those spray tans are beautiful. That's how you actually show your definition.
Starting point is 01:44:57 You can't be glowing. Oh, no, glow. No glow. Dude, seabum. Sea bum. And what else do we cover? We covered venom a little bit. A little bit of venom, a little bit of blade, a little bit of Tom Holland's Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:45:10 We acknowledge that crypto is coming to Superman. That image is gorgeous. Very excited about it. We did a penguin impression at one point. Did a penguin impression. We established where Colin Farrell gets his coffee sometime. But we're very cryptic. But striations again.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Yeah. And hey, no guilties. all right, no guilties for your potato chips. No, live your life. Nothing. Not everyone wants to look like that. Aurelia, you could get there, all right? You could have those righteous games.
Starting point is 01:45:36 If you so chose. Just everything in the lifestyle is changed. It's just every single thing. Just like bowls of oatmeal and like raw chickens every day. That's fun. It's just fuel. And you've got to train three to four times a day. And you can't enjoy your life.
Starting point is 01:45:50 You guys want to read some hate comments? Oh, yeah. Let's read some hate comments. All right. Here's how we'll end. it off. Welcome back to a new segment of mean tweets. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:01 The award segment, we did do that. Thank you for the review of our live because I forgot. First are we're going to end it off. I'm going to read some hate comments. Can I read one or two? Two of my own supply. My own stockpile. That I wrote.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Yeah. We should do a live stream reading hate comments. Oh, I would love that. I get plenty. Let's go to Agatha, episode six for me and Tyler Perry. That would be so fun. John's actually. A sweetheart, so it doesn't get a lot.
Starting point is 01:46:27 I get hate comments. John's the best communicator out of all of us, I think, with knowing how to phrase stuff to not get hate comments. Oh, and I like offending people. That's fair. And wherever you, especially, you and I are very much, like, we, I upset people with my humor. You upset people with your humor?
Starting point is 01:46:45 I upset people with my opinions. And then they think, they think I have the opinion because of my humor. I'm like, no, I have the humor because of my opinion about the movie. yeah yeah yeah yeah if this was going better i would be if i was enjoying this differently very different opinion all right let me let's bring him up bring him up let's get this going mofos let's get it going let's go tyler peru there's got to be a way to i forgot we were here to talk marvel in dc so did we so we don't worry about it guys we talked it was on the hands people loved every moment yeah like who really gives
Starting point is 01:47:22 this shit anymore right we all know that venom we all know that Venom 3 is like okayish and somewhat satisfying and could be better made. And it's just a matter of how much you enjoy it. Everything's about to blow up for a second. Bring it. Blowing it up. What's the like ratio on this video?
Starting point is 01:47:40 This is the... Seven. This is the fun journey about comments and stuff. It's like, it's easy to be like, people hate me in this video. But then you actually look at the people that don't comment because they have things to do. But there's always more likes. Who are just enjoying it? So... What's it at? What's it at?
Starting point is 01:47:56 It's got a 95.8. So it's not terrible. That's not terrible. That's not terrible. It's not. We've had ones here that get like 50. Whoa. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Oh. I know an Aaron video he and I did that's going to get like 25. Yeah, you know. You guys got one that's coming up. We are you guys ready because we do not agree with the masses. All right. Now, that's going to be very fun. I cannot wait.
Starting point is 01:48:18 I would be off the internet that two days. Admittedly, if there's people who I see that keep coming back or assholes, I tend to just sometimes ban them. I hide people I got a lot of hides So I'm not invited to the cookout I've tried Oh wow
Starting point is 01:48:32 Sorry Lifetime ban from the cookout That's a bummer Hey well you know A random positive comment Greg immediately clocked Finally Dude it's also got
Starting point is 01:48:44 Hell out plikes Oh here we go Here we go All right I'm surprised that you're all reacting to this I know Jabby has been doing a great job reacting to these Tyler Perry movies
Starting point is 01:48:53 showing interest and not making fun of it, but still pointing out the weird style of film making choices. You don't want to make fun of it. No, you can't do that. Not domestic, violent, nutty professor. Don't do that. Don't you acknowledge it. The classic theme, don't you.
Starting point is 01:49:12 The weird part is, I love watching these movies. I think they're so fun. That's not what the people are saying. But they want me to love it for different reasons. They want to love it in earnest. Greg, how dare you not have their opinion? I'm like, I think they're weird, but I love them. They're fun
Starting point is 01:49:30 to behold, most certainly. If you don't appreciate I don't know what happened to this comment. Yeah, you can't even expand. I said you're right. Jabby is older and this film should not be criticized. Just check, right? There's this whole thing. I don't know what happened. I can't know why I can't read the rest of that comment. Clearly this movie is amazing. I'm just a younger, immature one.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Greg, your passive aggressive sarcasm is the exact reason people are going to watch the franchise begin. Now, Greg, if you ask them to say, you need to say it, The past ago sarcasm is the exact reason people are calling to stop watching the franchise. Well, you should have kicked me off at Agatha. Oh, no, weeks ago. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:50:03 What do I say? Oh, there should be fun. Oh, my God. All right. What do I say? Yeah, mom. I don't even remember what the rest of this was. This is a different guy hopping into.
Starting point is 01:50:16 I mean, no, I got nothing serious to say. Because we just had a fun live stream. You want to tank that with your. Domestically violent, nutty professor. just fixed your syntax there that got nothing serious to say about people you guys are seeing real time
Starting point is 01:50:35 about people not about people hating me for having fun with domestically violent nutty professor it is domestically violent nutty professor for data it it is I agree with you it's so hard for me to believe
Starting point is 01:50:51 they are brothers immaturity is so played out Oh, come on. I'm a little more blunt than him. What's your brother's sense of humor? What's my brother's sense of humor? What does he like for funzies? I think people would agree that he's a little different in person than he is on YouTube videos.
Starting point is 01:51:09 I just, I'd have never talked to him about stuff that he enjoyed, like, comedically. All right, here we go. Here we go, guys. Oh, a long one. Yeah, I think you should all stop after this one or get Roxy or someone to do him instead of it because it's clearly that you all don't like Tyler's style. Why continue to torture yourself? the best analysis if you give a sarcasm and mocking the film. P.S.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I'm not suggesting anyone has to love Tyler Perry, but I do think there's a nuance that requires a lack of a better term is emotional depth and understanding. When I think of Greg Alba, when I think of a total lack of emotional depth. When I think of an old man playing a grandma. You got to think of the nuance of the emotions.
Starting point is 01:51:46 I understand the concept of needing to have the context of stage to film. adaptation. However, I don't think that the adaptation to film quite serves the tone. Watching some of these movies to do the note, the review
Starting point is 01:52:05 will review cuts, and I've watched some of these Tyler Perry movies, and part of me is like, I can see how this would work better as a play with the tonal shifting that does not, yeah, that is not well supported by like a movie. Don't worry, guys. I'm saying, this must be why critics
Starting point is 01:52:21 hate these movies because they all lack emotional depth and understanding of state i don't want to type all this let me just uh copy and paste this bullshit i mean you guys are seeing the emotion of how it is when i'm replying to people sure absolutely they all lack emotional depth and there you go oh good all right this is fun where are we at uh bro this is a man dressed up as a grandma yeah there you go well and I mean I never thought I'd hear Tyler Perry
Starting point is 01:53:00 and nuance in the same sense but you guys brought that up in the video about how like Medea herself is like the most nuanced character and then you'll have like a bunch of other characters who are dealing with way serious circumstances in and are not drawn with that level
Starting point is 01:53:16 of nuance you're like if you're dealing with yeah like abuse and violence like that's the place to put the new ones. Why do you all keep pointing out the obvious? We get it. The movies have a particular salt to them, but every scene you all are literally breaking out everything you'll see in the editing.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I think I think it's kind of what you do when you react to it. I mean, editing is a part of filmmaking. It informs the tone of the movie. Is it part of filmmaking? It's a fair game. You don't only talk about editing, but it's a fair game. I don't like when this duo watches Medea movies, but hey, to each its own.
Starting point is 01:53:51 that's a pretty i mean of all them that's the most fair fair see see gregg sometimes you just type fair that got me in trouble last week vid still has a 95% like ratio that dude that like hunted oh there's 12 replies here we go what we got let's go what do we do same oh no oh no i thought it was me i thought it was me no uh y'all just be talking
Starting point is 01:54:18 jabby plus michael over gregg and aaron who is y'all Oh, who was Michael? Tara and Roxy having a pre- Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, boring, more than Aaron, to be honest. What a priest did as well as critiqued it. I'm kind of enjoying it, but to each their own. I mean, I appreciate soaps and stage plays. I love you.
Starting point is 01:54:37 What gives? No, Roxy. We had a blast watching Twilight. Come on now. That's soaps. Hey, guys, thanks for reacting of day movies. I can't exactly put my finger up. I think you guys are over-analyzing and focus too much on the culture,
Starting point is 01:54:50 rendering your durability. to enjoy for what it is. Outside of the cliches and stereotypes, there's a lot more to the films than that. Tyler Perry has made a lot of the same themes throughout the Medea movies, but there's some great comedy, great acting moments,
Starting point is 01:55:02 and some good storytelling elements. I think the reaction from Sina Pals was a great balance of enjoying the movie, acknowledging the really great things that worked and what didn't work for them. Sometimes people are too shy to say some stuff. I am not ready for me and Aaron's reaction to come out to that movie.
Starting point is 01:55:17 If this is the reaction to this, because you at least had some joy. I had very little joy. enjoy. It's not a Tyler. I loved watching these movies. That's the fun part. And here's the funny thing about it. I was watching. So after after looking into this, I was like, I got to see if like this is just a me problem. After after looking at this, right? I was like, I got to see if it's just a me problem. Then I like found videos of people who are African American just to make sure like, all right, I'm going to need perspective from African-American people on this.
Starting point is 01:55:53 And then I was finding articles and stuff. And I was like, okay, so everything I was pointing out, this is like a real thing that people know about these movies. But the people on the internet commenting are not people that read. These movies are like bizarre and a little strange that these are the same, like two movies in a row that are almost exactly the same. I was like, I kind of feel like this is a little problematic for black culture in some ways. to for the, if this is like becoming
Starting point is 01:56:18 the gold standard of them in a lot of weird ways. Are they still making them? I think so. Yeah. I know he just hired like a bunch of AI tech to get rid of a lot of his Pinewood studio stuff in Georgia, so I don't know if like the next one's going to be an animated film. I know, yeah, your boy, Las says
Starting point is 01:56:35 don't tell them how double toast is. I haven't even heard double toast's opinion on it. Oh, I've heard there, I've heard them on multiple Tyler Perry movies and I mean they're always calling out like, yeah, the the ridiculously over-the-top villainy of like any of the male like husband like whoever's starting out with a husband
Starting point is 01:56:52 or a romantic interest and especially if he's got like a dark complexion like they're going to be cartoon evil bad guy like evil moms the good like savior light skin guy like there's so many tropes that they're always like here we go again you know yeah and so like I understand like okay in all seriousness I understand I saw rings of power I saw with Agatha is that these movies are fucking hated by critics they're hated by critics
Starting point is 01:57:16 So the people that love them Really love them and they feel like they're in this like small camp Then they feel like they need like That's why they fight back so hard And they become a cult of Tyler Perry They become a fan base They become a stand base That's the way it works
Starting point is 01:57:30 And then they can't handle like when other people have different But I don't know I listen to people That's the weird I guess that's the part of my life That I have a hard time Because I listen to like Your movie sucks
Starting point is 01:57:40 Red Letter Media All these guys who hate things I love And I'm just like They're funny. I just enjoy it. I just have fun. Yeah. And like,
Starting point is 01:57:50 especially too with those guys, like they'll rib on on things or whatever, but they'll usually at least bring some level of, like, you actually thought about this though. Like there are times when Adam maybe will like go on a rant for a little longer than my taste. But yeah, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:58:04 whatever. Like, I just disagree, but I love listening to you. Why are you saying they're being blocked when you literally see it? Your comment is literally on screen. I assume it's a robot. Like, aren't there like bots that just say stuff?
Starting point is 01:58:15 Yeah, no one's been blocked Yeah No one's been blocked for Tyler Perry Today Tyler Perry is a Diddy Party Attendee and host If you were blocked I don't know
Starting point is 01:58:26 Maybe there's a thing happening This is but I don't recall blocking you And if you're blocked You wouldn't be able to have your comment Up here in this live chat Yeah Anyway, all right It's been exactly two hours
Starting point is 01:58:35 You guys good No let's talk more Tyler Perry This is a very This is one of the strangest live stream Oh by far And a weird like laid back energy It's like we're high, but we're not.
Starting point is 01:58:46 None of us are high. So tired. No, we're just slap happy. Don't worry. Medea's destination wedding is in production. 2025. It's in post-production, dude, it's coming. Bring that on.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Dude, you should go to Atlanta and react to it. Greg should. And then get thrown out of the city for not loving Tyler Perry. Some haters are bought made. That's right. Dude, 15 years strong, Sky, the Magnanimus. I 1-13. I like your Pixar handle there.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Hey, nice, not bad. It's a little Easter egg in every movie. Oh, yeah, I know. The top pair of videos are not even getting that great views, but I kind of want to keep doing them only because of the takeoff. Do every single one. I wouldn't let you kick me off Agatha. Greg was like, you're done.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I'm like, not today. You should, you should. No, Greg was the opposite. That is not the narrative. That is not the narrative. I was using Greg sarcasm and it didn't translate. We were going to do a split screen where I'm actually just both reactions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:42 No, Greg was like, do you want to watch the show? And I was like, yeah, I want to watch this show because I'm enjoying it with you guys. And then he's like, oh, and then I really liked episode seven. And now I'm like, I hope I like eight and nine because that's the only time people want me here. I have to only like things. Oh, my God. I know for sure if I watch the next Medea movie and then if I'm just like taking it more serious, people, they're all going to be like, oh, I'm so glad that you. Oh, dude, when people, you should just pick one out of, like, at random, pick one of the movies to take very earnestly.
Starting point is 02:00:09 People like, like, that's the thing with stand bases. they literally turn around it's like I can predict it like they're gonna just turn around once like they'll if you turn around they're okay with it you'll get one person who'd be like you just conform because of that but oh I get plenty of those yeah but most of the time most people are
Starting point is 02:00:26 about a third of my comments on episode seven are oh you're just too dumb to understand one through six we're good too like people were mad at me for liking seven and not one through six and I was like it the right way yes but the engagement's great I'm very happy the more stupid people the better for engagement sorry there's a cat off
Starting point is 02:00:42 screen here um yeah no there's actually a few keywords that are blocked oh on youtube like the n word i blocked i didn't like that popping up um in the past and so i blocked that so if people are leaving n word comments that i will that they are not going to be seen there's that um i've blocked certain keywords that i just don't like being on the comments as much of a sarcastic asshole as i am as much as i believe in freedom of speech or something i'm like well i'm okay with me this word not appearing here. Greg has emotional depth. No, not apparently because I don't
Starting point is 02:01:18 appreciate it. Because you don't understand Tyler Perry. And you've never seen a play. I haven't seen legend of Tom Cruise. I'm not in love with the guy. Is that the movie with the big devil in it? I also have never seen it. Tom Cruise is in it. I also really hate it when Disney
Starting point is 02:01:36 does it. I hate when Tyler Perry does it. The whole like making fun of rich people thing. I'm like, dude, you can't just play grandma. You know, you guys are rich. You guys know you're the rich people. Yeah, you can't play grandma. And literally, Tyler Perry has billions.
Starting point is 02:01:56 He's not only just birthed, like this Tyler Perry's stereotypes. He's amplified stereotypes. And I think that's, like, troublesome, considering the level of notoriety and prestige that Tyler Perry has. So, yeah. He's a weird, it's weird, it's weird. Yeah. Anyway, I don't, I don't know what the racist comment is. I'm sorry, the racist comments are getting blocked.
Starting point is 02:02:20 What do you want me to tell you? I don't know what racist comments are getting blocked. Greg, you're silencing free speech. This feels like you're like, I don't get it. Why is my racist comment? I've been commenting quite racistly. Greg likes silencing voices, and he is silencing free speech, which is unacceptable. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Now we're just having a conversation. and I'm done. We're all done. Thank you guys for being here. Coy, can you close us out? Guys, we appreciate each and every one of you. The next live stream may be more coherent. Cannot guarantee it, but we'll probably suggest it.
Starting point is 02:02:54 We did some news, but there wasn't as much as normal. Next time we come back, we'll bring you the news. It's because this Venom movie barely had anything really worthy. Well, it's just no one's talking about my reviews aren't doing well. I feel like everybody else's are doing like, eh. Like, it's just not the conversational shift that we thought it would be. Doesn't have like a big setup, really other than like, yeah, we know. I was going to make an Easter eggs video.
Starting point is 02:03:16 My plan was spoiler than Easter eggs. And I watched the movie and I was like, there aren't really Easter eggs. We know, no, no is here. Yeah, like, we know this. And they didn't make references that were like deep cut. They were just like, I'm venom. But yeah, so I didn't have as much to dive into this time. We'll be back as news ramps up.
Starting point is 02:03:30 And obviously, the Oscar season stuff's around the corner with lots of Oscar fair. I'm very excited for the holiday season. I started the video with a cornbread joke because it was a callback to the people making comments. about the cornbread in the last that's what it was about you got to understand context yeah don't ask people to think
Starting point is 02:03:48 next time play that clip in the video with a big text that says context so that there's no disrespect because I was engaging with the community on the last video we're gonna wrap this live stream up
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