The Reel Rejects - WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES (2017) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:27 You try. It's a competition, so let's... You try. let's get to it by the way if you guys are listening to us on Apple or Spotify if you don't mind giving us a rating

Starting point is 00:01:39 we'd appreciate it please please do that and it was interesting the first film was about freedom and learning second film you know was a misunderstanding

Starting point is 00:01:50 obviously and then this film was about pain and suffering and I just this journey we went on with season I mean, obviously he got to have a family and was, obviously, he was head of the entire ape clan, and, but he really had such a rough life.

Starting point is 00:02:12 And I just loved this journey we went on with him, but also it was just so emotional. It was so captivating. And he's really one of my favorite character. I know we're so fresh off of watching this, but I can honestly say he's one of my favorite characters. I've ever seen on screen. I loved this character so much, what he stood for, whether he's an ape or human, it doesn't matter. I just love him so much, just like the principles he stands behind.

Starting point is 00:02:44 It just everything he went through traumatically, emotionally, I just so invested in him through every step of the way. And we got to experience everything with him from, you know, as a baby where his mother was brutally killed in that laboratory to learning just how to become a human from James Franco's character to raising a family, being the leader of the clan, to succumbing to injuries after COBA, the betrayal there. And then obviously having a friendship with Malcolm and then everything he went through in this. This is like again, the pain and suffering I just mentioned through this film i mean and then that moment he had or he could have easily pulled the

Starting point is 00:03:31 trigger and i don't know if that would have made again i've never been in a position like that no one has ever taken away a family member of mine in such a brutally savage way uh that he went through so i don't know if that would have taken away the pain and suffering he was feeling throughout the film had he pulled the trigger um but the way he emotionally grew in in that moment he decided I'm going to be bigger than that. Obviously, you can make an argument. No, he's just letting Woody Harrelson, the colonel. I'm just going to let him suffer with that, too.

Starting point is 00:04:03 There's an argument to be made there. But I like to look at it too as like he grew in that moment. Like, this is not what my family would want. Right. Yeah, he didn't let the hate take over. I'm not COBA. Yeah, he initially before he, you know, before he went there, that's a line that I really appreciated.

Starting point is 00:04:23 is that I don't know that I can overcome my hate. Like, I'm in the same position as COBA. And it was nice to see him in that moment that, like, he could, even though it was really hard. And going back to that, I'm like, yeah, it probably, in the long run, not going to be a great feeling when you seek vengeance. But in that moment, it's going to feel really good. I don't know what I would have done either. I probably would have pulled the trigger. Let's, let's be honest.

Starting point is 00:04:49 But overall, I mean, Matt Reeves, Bravo, I think following Caesar in this journey, it was nice to see him at an older age so that when he meets up with Woody Harrelson, I mean, those scenes to me, every scene with him and Woody had the most words in it. That's the most speaking that we have seen, honestly, between an ape and a human. in, I feel like both, at least in the last few films. Like the last one, not as much. These scenes with him and Woody were phenomenal. I mean, I was just, I was taken aback.

Starting point is 00:05:28 I mean, I really, really just felt everything. I thought it was just so dang good. And it's so, it's like, it's jarring to see when the apes are there. working for him and you see how much pain they've gone through and how they turn their back when they first see Caesar. Like that was a hurtful moment, but it was such, all we needed was one line of like, forgive them. We've been through a lot. And like, that is so, it's so human. It's like, hey, listen, anybody who turns their back on anybody else, if you feel like that person led you to a really dark place, it's sort of like, forgive me. I have.

Starting point is 00:06:15 have to not be here anymore. And to see it again, like in the second movie, them turn around because Caesar put his life on the line. He's like, give him food or water. If you need to kill me, go ahead, pull the trigger. And I thought that that was really, really, I just thought that was really moving. And just a great way to set up Caesar as like one of the most phenomenal leaders like he didn't he didn't actually change his leadership until the end when he's like i don't think i can let go of my hate he hadn't been that leader he'd been a nice benevolent leader up till then without a lot of like vengeance right he always um seek sought after peace especially letting those soldiers go i'm sending a message i'm not going to kill you i'm not going to turn

Starting point is 00:07:03 into a savage until at the very end of him going i don't think i can release my hate but then him letting Woody go, he's going back to like his moral compass, right? And I really like to see that at the end that he got the peaceful ending. His last picture before his last breath was his child, his family, apes were safe. Absolutely. And he could let go. Well, and he put the people, to your point, he put his people or his apes before his personal vengeance and needs. Whereas again, that's the contrast and difference between. him in coba coba was all about his vengeance and his personal needs versus like i mean you even remember like he threw some of the uh the ape i mean through uh rocket's son i i apologize i the name is

Starting point is 00:07:52 uh not coming to me right now but he threw rocket sun off the off the uh walkway or whatever and he kicked off a couple other apes that were just in his way like he didn't really give a shit about any of the other apes he just only cared about himself um and again we understand his tortured past and why he was doing what he was doing but But yeah, I agree with you. The scenes between him and Woody Harrelson were so captivating. They were so incredible. I'm not very big and heavy exposition scenes, but those scenes were so well acted.

Starting point is 00:08:20 The dialogue was so damn good that I don't mind heavy exposition scenes like that. And also, too, we're getting to know why this character is, besides the fact that we got the end of the call at the end of the last movie where, you know, the Gary Oldman and the crew said, hey, these apes are they're, you know, hurting us and charging at us. We need reinforcements. But now we get a little bit more into the backstory of why this guy is doing what he's doing and what, you know, and I thought, I bought it. I understood like his, again, not understanding, but under, or rather not agreeing, but understanding his motivations. Right. He just, he was an extremely well-toned villain. As such with COBA, um, these films just do such a great job of just painting a picture of why these villains do what they do.

Starting point is 00:09:10 And also, I loved all the obstacles that this film created for Caesar and the rest of the apes. I mean, it just felt like we weren't going to get a win at the end of the day, but obviously we know. But it just kept on filming obstacle

Starting point is 00:09:22 after obstacle after obstacle, after obstacle, after obstacle, nonstop. And this film did an interesting job, too. I just feel like it was a slow burn most of the film. And a lot of times that's not, some people are not into slow burn. and then like a lot more, you know, fast-paced type of films, which I can totally understand respect.

Starting point is 00:09:42 I don't mind slow burn as long as, you know, what is happening is dramatic and I'm getting the feels. And it's interesting. And this film was able to encapsulate all that at once, how I felt like. And obviously we got in the latter part, especially that last action sequence, went into the faster-paced action, you know, set piece and all that. But this film, like, this and I would say Alien in 1979 really are some of the, the best things I've ever seen when it comes to doing slow burn really well and keeping it interesting.

Starting point is 00:10:12 Because again, especially in this day and I wasn't bored at all. Like when someone says slow burn, I'm thinking like, it's a slow burn. I can't wait until this speeds up, except I was engaged from start to finish. Fully engaged. It's so easy to get bored when it's a slow burn type of film. And I was fully, like you said, fully engaged the entire time. It's not easy to do. Right. I absolutely great and I really um love adding in Nova and I'm I'm so like if there's not another film after this because I have no idea like I want to follow Nova with the apes like that is such a story that I want to see want to see her grow with them and with Maurice yeah and I find it so enjoyable that I'll just call him the little hobbit uh that he finally found a family like him in the

Starting point is 00:11:00 beginning of searching like I he just wants friends he was so lonely and he had to sacrifice like get out of his fear to go and help them and then he learned so much being with them found this family, found his friends and Nova at the same time it's really beautiful

Starting point is 00:11:18 when she asked like am I an ape and Maurice you know gives her the name of Nova and I it was just it's so sweet and it's so nice that she's I don't know that she's just there with them I want to see her story so

Starting point is 00:11:34 badly and how they take care of each other and how they live just happily as apes out there. I would love to just see that even though that's not a great plot. There's not a lot of like ups and downs on that. I just thought it was such a beautiful ending that I was like, I love that she survived how well Maurice took care of her and that Maurice is left there in a way as like a second leader, the leader now of like apes are strong with or with. without Caesar. And that is the absolute truth. And I think Maurice is, is a great number two, which is now a number one. And it's just, this movie gives you all the feels. Oh, for sure. I know

Starting point is 00:12:18 they're making a new one right now. I believe that's why we're doing this whole thing. Yeah, because there was a trailer the other day, which I did not watch. I don't know if that's, yeah. And you guys let us know in the comments. I'm sure we're going to ask Greg probably after this anyways. But I don't know if that's like with Cornelius and all them, uh, continuing the story. I have no idea. Um, but you guys let us know in the comments because again, this is obviously our first time viewing this trilogy. Yeah. I would love it if it's the continuation. I think that's, why not do that? Oh, it would be great. Yeah. Why would, why would you reboot this? I would say just continue the story. Um, but yeah, let us know in the comments. And let us know who's directing it. I'm very curious.

Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, I don't, I doubt it's Matt Reeves because he's doing the Batman too right now. He's working on that. Um, but, uh, I agree. with you this movie just i mean i said it so many different times too and i believe you did as well this so many times i was like so moved by so many different things that were uh happening uh in the film and also too we finally got to hear maurice speak uh obviously he said nova for the first time and then he had that little bit of that conversation with uh with caesar but you know and they set up to maurice you know as a character who just has this emotional feel towards humans just from the second movie with the actor, I forgot his name,

Starting point is 00:13:35 who played Nightcrawler and X-Men Apocalypse. You know, like they had that nice moment where they were reading the book together in The Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. So that was a nice setup to this, that, you know, where he kind of like has a surrogate daughter now with Nova. And I just thought that was so well set up in that film to get us to hear.

Starting point is 00:13:53 And yeah, and it's interesting, too, because we talk about, we mentioned so much about COBA, all the torture and how much he hates human beings. Understandably so. If I were COBA, I'd probably hate human beings too. After being tortured and punished by them as much as he was by Malphoy and Brian Cox and all them, I get it. So was Maurice.

Starting point is 00:14:15 He was in that place. I believe, again, you guys can correct me in the comments, but I believe he was in that place just around as long as COBA and he was beaten, tortured just as much as COBA. He did not hate humans the same way as. as COBA. But, I mean, obviously, you know, he was, I mean, he, again, he didn't hate humans as much as COBA, but he was a little more sympathetic and empathetic towards them. And he was a lot more trustworthy.

Starting point is 00:14:45 He didn't have, again, the same vengeance towards them. And I appreciated that. He had more humanity towards them. So I liked seeing the contrast between the two characters. Hello, their esteem viewer of the real rejects. I, Greg Alba, language connoisseur, and worldly gentlemen. I'm here to bestow upon you the secrets of Babel. Babel is an engaging language learning app designed for real-life conversations,

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Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, and I think that's what makes Maurice and Caesar such good friends, is that Maurice has a different, um, a viewpoint as to not every human is the same, right? He's, he's regarding just like Caesar did, of, of letting those soldiers go as a message. is that there's going to be a lot of bad humans out there. They're going to torture and they're going to be for the bad side of history. But it doesn't mean that they're all like that. And I mean, we know that Caesar was mainly the one who really knew that because he was raised mostly by a human.

Starting point is 00:17:13 Of course. But in learning that, I think Maurice also takes that same point of view is that they're not all the same. Just like Coba being a bad ape does not mean that all apes are like Coba. Right. So it makes a lot of sense why Maurice and Caesar having that viewpoint would be best friends and why Maurice would be his number two because he views things in a lot of the same way. And I think it's so important to have like your number two, like your sidekick. And they did such a good job of this. And oh, also, by the way, like this movie is very touching. I am not broken. I've said this in a few other reactions, but I had long COVID. I would. It was tough. I'm on Prozac. So I forgot how to cry for a little while. That might still be the case. I'm saying, yes. And I saw him crying, but I'm just saying, you guys, I'm not broken. I'm still feeling the things. I used to cry a lot, like almost every day. So, hey, we're meeting in the middle here. So I'm just letting you guys know that in case you're like, what's wrong with Tara? Nothing. I'm just like, I'm still like, there's some ups and downs there for me, but I'm not like leaking. as much. So just want to you guys to know that because this is all very touching, especially at the

Starting point is 00:18:30 end. And also when he reunites with his son and he hugs him and I'm just like, I can't, it kills me. It's so beautiful. And again, just the comp, hats off to the way that they display this story, give us this story without a lot of dialogue, except when there is dialogue, It's phenomenal. It's a great script. And I don't know of any other film where Matt Reeves makes a film where there is like words that aren't needed

Starting point is 00:19:05 or things that aren't really needed in it. Right? Even the thing that I kind of called somewhat exposition with the Woody Harrelson, we needed that for the story. Woody actually needed to say that out loud to him and he probably hadn't said it for a long time. Like there's a virus and I realize you guys are smart

Starting point is 00:19:23 you're going to take over. and I had to kill my son like that that was all stuff that we needed to know and it wasn't then repeated it wasn't in a way of like remember the virus remember when he had to like kill his son remember all of this stuff remember the humans are coming it's only said like once is a setup of stuff that we needed to know right and I think that that to me is yes you trust your audience we don't need to hear it multiple times in different ways and I appreciate appreciate that so much. I also thought this film did a great job of subverting our expectations in a way that was satisfying and not just to subvert expectations just to do it. And like a big

Starting point is 00:20:06 pet peeve of mine when I watch films is when films are generic, formulaic, and predictable. I mean, because a couple of times I was like, okay, I could see it going this way and going that way. And like the film did not and veered from that. Like when he grabbed that doll from Nova and then got the virus or whatever he got and he couldn't speak. I didn't see that comment. There were some really good twist and turns in this film. But again, in a very satisfying way that serviced the characters and the storyline. And I had a feeling, even though I kind of said at the end there, I'm like, oh, thank God Cesar survived.

Starting point is 00:20:41 And then you pointed out like, well, hold on, let's wait until the film ends to say that. But I had a feeling just from the comments we got in the last video that like you're going to need the tissues that, I mean, I knew, like, you guys were probably saying, like, there's going to be a bunch of apes that are going to die, but I had a feeling that was possibly going to be serious, especially when the title's called War for the Planet of the Apes. But still, even if I knew it was possibly coming, like, it was still done it in such an emotionally satisfying way, this journey and just everything he went through. What a life and journey he went on. And I just, I felt so bad for him as well as, like, what an uplifting journey, but such a sad journey as well. yeah um just like everything he had to go through with james franco losing him and then obviously his wife and his son and poor guy but again i'm glad he got to see that you know he led his uh his fellow apes

Starting point is 00:21:32 to freedom and got to have that vision so that was just so beautifully done and uh again Matt reeves the other writer wonderful writing direction cinematography the music by michael jacchino fantastic again just hit me in all the feels i could just listen to that music and that was hitting me in the feels. Yeah. Um, just so many. And again, the, the, the, we talked about how wonderful the sets were, uh, that the postal apocalyptic feel in the second film. Yeah. Again, the waterfronts, uh, and also that, that set that they go to where they're being, uh, where the commander or the colonel, rather, uh, where they're holding them, uh, that was quite a set as well. And yeah, I was interesting to it. You pointed out, uh, almost had like that Nazi type of feel.

Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, absolutely. Like making them slaves there. And then in, in, in trap or in, in, in, in, in, in, and that closed confinement. So, yeah, it was interesting parallels there for sure. And I love that, like, also on Woody Harrison's desk, like, right when Caesar enters, in going back to that it gave me a Nazi Holocaust feel, is that on one piece of paper was written history, history, history, three times. And that gives us an insight to what the filmmaker is kind of trying to say and modeling it after. And they did a great, great job of that, especially when Woody, he's, like, shaving

Starting point is 00:22:48 his head when he first, when you first see him walk out to the mass of people. Such a great move, a great direction with that. And I also think one other thing in having the Hobbit character, that's really hard to add into this story, which is such a dramatic and moving story, to bring humor in it without it being like, oh, they're trying to make us laugh. Like sometimes that to me, it feels forced. Or I'm like, this is not funny. Why are we doing this pacing?

Starting point is 00:23:18 and tone, and when you add it in, it has to be just right. And they did it just right. Like casting Steve Zahn, obviously, he's so great. I mean, just phenomenal casting, but also just the pacing and the tone of when he comes in, that it didn't try to, like, speed anything up. It was still in that, in that world, and you just brought in, like, peas in a pod versus, like, the odd man out. And that was Steve Zon's character.

Starting point is 00:23:46 And he did such a great. job of making us go like, oh my God, we love him. He's so charming and so fun. And that gave us something just really fun to like watch and look forward to, especially because all the rest of the film is so moving and dramatic. Right? And I really, really like that. And that's a very hard thing to do. Yeah, no, for sure. No, it was the proper amount of levity while also giving us a very captivating character that had such good development. I mean, because he's such a lonely character. And also, too, I'm not going to call him a coward because he's not, because when you got characters with guns trying to hunt you down, I'm not going to call him a

Starting point is 00:24:25 coward. Right. But he had a good arc in terms of like becoming a braver, you know, ape, if you will, just like helping out, you know, not being lonely anymore. And now like, because he's got friends and family and now he's going to, you know, come to the, rise to the challenge, if you will. Yeah. Like how I use the word rise because of the first film, but like rise to the challenge and now come to the rescue because remember, he was terrified of that. place when they when they were talking about the food and i believe it was uh what was the word that was on the the food it said something with because when caesar saw that word about a boundary or the border border the border he's like you could see the fear he's like i'm never going to that

Starting point is 00:25:03 place so again that was good development so again we got levity and we got good character development on top of a a very captivating character so i mean it's it's like that's why matt reeves and the other writer like i don't know how you did this And that's why I kept saying, like, throughout the film, and I don't care if I get ripped in the comments, although I don't think I'm going to because I know a lot of people love this film on top of the trilogy. I'm going to check afterwards, but I am so, well, not shocked because nothing shocks me anymore with the Academy Awards. But I can't believe this movie would not, at least be nominated.

Starting point is 00:25:38 I think it did say, actually, on the screen, Oscar nominee. Oh, really? Okay. Visual effects I can definitely see. And even Michael Chiquino for the music. but Andy Circus should have been nominated for Best Actor. Agreed. I still think.

Starting point is 00:25:54 Screenplay is a tough one because they're so particular about that. Direction, I would personally give it to Matt Reeves, but I could see why they wouldn't. And Best Picture. Because there's 10 to 11, I personally would give it for this one. Yes, I agree. Nomination. Okay, get into those fun facts.

Starting point is 00:26:09 We're going to do some trivia before we let you guys go. Please don't forget to like, comment, share this. So we can even, we might even go back and watch. the originals, the OGs, you guys. Oh yeah, let us know. We would love to know that. Also, let us know what else you kind of want us to watch. It might be in this vein or whatnot.

Starting point is 00:26:27 And yeah, let's get these facts. Read a few of them. So Matt Reeves pointed out that the Apes and Rise of the Planet of the Apes, don't wear clothing. Okay. So the Apes Society seen in Planet of the Apes, that's the 1968 film, wears clothing. Oh. And Bad Ape

Starting point is 00:26:45 is also supposed to to be the start of progression in this direction. To survive in a harsh winter, he wears heavy winter coats. He's scavenged. This is primarily necessitated by the fact that he is bald, similarly to Rocket. However, while Rocket likely has alopecia, bad ape seems to have lost his hair from old age. Ah, I love that. Let's see.

Starting point is 00:27:11 While promoting Donna the planet of the apes, Andy Circus was asked if ALZ-113 drug has also affected apes outside of Caesar's tribe. Matt Reeves and Mark Bomback took note of it, which led to the introduction of Bad Ape in this film. Oh. Okay. I'll read three more than we'll call it. Bad Apes Fall was a real fall.

Starting point is 00:27:31 Matt Reeves liked it so much. He kept it. The great thing about performance captures that in any other movie, you plan out shots to such a degree that there's no spontaneity. Spontaneity, did I say that right? Yep.

Starting point is 00:27:42 Okay. Thank you. But here, because all of it is just a, series of cameras, we go on an exploration. Cool. Nice. When Marie speaks to the human child with her new name, Nova. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:56 The dialogue is the actual voice of Charlton Heston. Wow. Speaking the same words to Linda Harrison in plenty of the apes. The voice has been electronically altered, but is still clearly recognizable. I'm sure many of the, that's a great fact. I'm sure we're going to get some comments who didn't reach this part of the video. they're going to let us know that in the comments, but we know that now. Cool.

Starting point is 00:28:19 That's a really cool one. That's awesome. Yeah. That's a good fact. I did know Charlton Heston was in the original, but I would never have known that about the voice. All right. Two more. According to Matt Reeves, it was Woody Harrelson's idea to begin addressing Caesar by listing the military rivals of the past.

Starting point is 00:28:37 Wellington and Napoleon, Grant and Lee, Custer and Sitting Bull. While noting that as an ape, Caesar would not know what he was talking about. Okay. I'll read one spoiler-rific one because there's like 10,000 in this movie. Usually it's the top ones. Here we go. Last one. Yep, this is the top one.

Starting point is 00:28:57 The giant X that the humans used to crucify the apes outside their camp are the same designs as the X used as markers to the forbidden zone and planet of the apes, the 1968 one. Okay, the OG, bringing it back, little Easter eggs there. If we ever watch that one, we will have a better idea. Now, like, there's the Easter egg from the war for the planet of the apes. Yeah. But seriously, this is one of, again, Lord of the Rings is always the staple for me for the greatest trilogy. I know Dark Night back to the future, those are right there with Lord of the Rings. But Lord of the Rings for me is always the staple of the greatest trilogy ever. This is right up there too for me. I mean, this is an incredible trilogy. I loved it so much.

Starting point is 00:29:41 I agree. 10 out of 10, you guys, I love this movie. Don't forget. Like, share, comment. tell us what you think we love you guys so much thank you for joining us and being here and we'll be back we'll be back soon we love you so much bye

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