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Gang, we got a whole bunch of questions here from our royal rejects.
So, you know, there's plenty more to talk about, but I have a sneaking suspicion that y'all are going to guide us mightily through those topics.
So let's jump into this.
this and thank you all for uh being so enthusiastic and submitting your questions uh jaden
roads first up uh i saw this in theaters recently and i loved it but i did see a lot of mixed
reactions on the ending many feel like it was over the top of gladys running from the kids but
it worked for me and had me laughing out loud in the theater um definitely one of the most sort
of like strange and unique third act turns climactic turns that i have seen in it
minute especially after an experience that is like so heavy on dread and so you know mounting of
tension and then all of a sudden you have this end bit that's like it's horrific in a way but it's also
like really over the top and wacky yeah uh i appreciate it i think i am falling on the side of i
appreciate that after you know so much again dread and ominousness and suspense you know to have
this sort of like weird sense of levity
by the end is like kind of neat but
how do you guys feel about this?
I loved it. I thought it was really
funny. There's just old
lady running from 17
elementary school students
and just running through houses
and doors going full Kool-Aid man
this elderly woman.
It's just great. That's funny. And a nice
version of what you'd expect for the ending of
a horror movie. Yeah, I
love the movie as a
whole. It's left me with some
questions still, but I feel
it gives you just enough information to be
relevant for the characters that are involved in
what's happening. So
ultimately, it falls on the
side of things that's going to leave
me thinking on my ride home today
and just what movie I want to talk about with
people because this movie
was crazy and it was a wild ride.
But yeah, and it was great. Absolutely.
What did you think, Tara? Yeah, I loved it.
I thought it was brilliant. I really like
when writers and directors, they
they they write smart characters so the kid um having the the sense to do what he did and and that is
the reason why she's being killed by her her very own weapons that she created um is a really nice
turn of events and it was also hilarious i don't even think it was over the top it was just
it ridiculously funny because of how realistic it was seeing that old ass witch lady just
just running from all these kids brilliant loved it yeah after all the kind of chaos and
havoc and she's such a great you know obviously what's happening is so sort of wrenching and again
like a bunch of kids so it starts so grounded it's like a bunch of kids running outside who
knows where they went this is a thing that could plausibly happen maybe in real life and then
to come to find yeah that it's some strange voodoo ritual that
may or may not be attempting to like rejuvenate this woman's life force or something like yeah to
bring it to such an extent of insanity i thought it was like a cool subversion in a sense because yeah
you expected to go really like harsh and harrowing and yeah once you kind of figure out what's going
on like it is more straightforward than you would imagine you're like oh shit this this woman came
to town and she just started messing with people in a supernatural sense and now you
You know, the chickens are coming home to roost.
And, yeah, I do appreciate that the kid, that Alex was, I thought everything was handled with a nice sense of build and gradual development to where once he finally kind of realizes what he should do, I totally bought it.
And, and yeah, to have, I think weapons is a very fascinating title, obviously, and there's a lot of different stuff in the movie that, you know, justifies and ties into that.
Um, but, you know, having this sort of occurrence that sort of weaponizes people's paranoia against each other and, you know, people's fears and their, you know, hairbrain conclusions, then to come to a very physical ending where all the kids are literally just vicious little weapons tearing her to shreds. Uh, yeah, I'm excited to chew on this movie, but, uh, definitely, definitely very striking for sure.
And I like the over-the-topness, and I think, you know, for a movie like this, it's a nice left hook to throw your way.
A lot of subtly, you know, impishly humorous moments in here.
And I like that he's not fully shed his, you know, comedic background.
So, hell yeah, of that.
Landon Miller, love this movie when I saw it in theaters.
So the title is left ambiguous.
What do you think it means?
Do you think humans' emotions, trauma, or community structurally?
structures are the, quote, weapons?
I thought like it was pretty straightforward, and I gave you an answer.
Thank you.
I thought it was pretty understandable when Josh Boland said it, like, yeah, they're moving, like, he's seeking missiles, like weapons.
And, yeah, you see that Josh Bolin was treated that way, and the kids were literally the weapons to destroy this old lady.
So, yeah, I felt like it was pretty on the nose once it was explained.
I still have questions, though.
Like, why do you see a giant rifle, the 217 in the sky?
And then why were they seeing Gladys in their dreams?
Like, that stuff didn't, oh, it's still kind of a mystery to me.
I don't quite understand that stuff.
But as far as the title of stuff goes, I felt like it made sense.
Yeah, I think that's one of those sort of, it's left to your interpretation.
Like, I kind of explained to myself the, yeah, the visions of Gladys is just part of this cloud of
malevolence that seems to just emanate from her and the more she you know works her sinister magic on
the town itself like the more sort of people are sharing this hallucination of her um the thing with the
rifle in the sky is like a particularly pronounced bit of symbolism uh and i do think it's an interesting
one to kind of ponder and pick apart because it is also one of the most overtly surreal images that you see
in the movie and you, you know, are, the time itself that they, you know, have run out is projected
on the side of it or, you know, is clock-faced onto the side of it. And so, yeah, this is a
kind of movie that makes me excited to discuss with people because, yeah, it seems like, again,
people's paranoia and fears and grief are all weaponized here and, you know, various forms
of leverage and familial ties and even the Julia Garner character, uh,
Justine's, you know, care for the kids is sort of weaponized against her.
It's, I think you can extrapolate it out of all the kinds of stuff here.
The paint is a weapon in and of itself because it, you know, adds to this witch hunt for Justine that a lot of, you know, parents think is justified.
Yeah, I would love to hear more takes on it, but I think it's a fascinating title.
And I do appreciate it's a rare occasion, I feel like, when a movie has a title that seems very specifically chosen.
and yet it is not very obvious as to like 100% of why the choice was made,
what the meaning is.
But I thought, you know, it continually had me engrossed with trying to understand,
yeah, what that actually means or symbolizes.
Certainly her, you know, voodoo witchcraft stuff is a weapon unto itself.
But yeah, what do you take out of that?
Yeah, I think actually it's all of it landing because when you look at it,
like the community aspect is like it turns into a weapon when Josh Brolin is there.
and they're on the witch hunt.
And then it really takes advantage of the emotions.
Like when she goes to the principal's house,
it's like emotions are there because they bring her in
or like, of course she can have some water.
Right?
It's like praying on all of these people.
Then, of course, it's the trauma with the kid.
He's under so much stress and trauma that he's not going to say a word.
So she gets away with being, you know,
a huge a huge weapon
and I think that humans
just in general we see a cop
he is a weapon he is an alcoholic
who like has
probably has a really
unanswered rage
within him that we very much see
when he deals with that
the the crackhead kid
the you know the addict
yeah
and I think it shows aspects
of all of these people and how
they all have a kind of a weapon waiting within them, right?
I mean, Josh Prolin has like the red paint.
He's being in a weapon.
And the principal, I mean, that's more emotional stuff there that, you know,
the husband lets him in and then that snaps.
And then we see the kid's trauma, you know,
and that's just savage that she brings that to life.
But I also think, yeah, yeah.
And the teacher obviously has a little.
lot of unresolved stuff, especially when we see her meet up with the cop and she's kind of
smiling that Donna is not around and you're like, oh, these are a lot of bad decisions we're
kind of making within this world that I think can be utilized when you're in a weak spot
to make a really prime weapon, right? You're primed up to be pissed off and take care of business.
Yeah. And if we're like, you know, putting our little hats on here, alcohol is a weapon.
She used it to broke her sobriety so she can get what she wanted her sense of relief.
And then that flipped on her with his wife, pouring alcohol over her to give her the guilt of, you know, what she's done and how she's ruined their marriage.
That was bonks.
Yeah, potato peelers a weapon, you know, peeling back to layers.
That.
Oh, God.
That was great.
Great effects there.
I flashed back to the evil dead rise, the cheese grater thing.
the potato peeler to the face is
God. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I feel like
it's at a glance, it's like what an odd
title for a movie like this and a movie that doesn't have as many
like the machine gun appears in the sky
and it's like one of the couple of guns in the movie. It's not like
yeah, conventional weapons movie, but also yeah, it is a title that pulls you in
and grosses you and makes you examine kind of
the way anything can, yeah, become a tool for
malevolence.
Even drug needles are a weapon.
Totally, dude.
The one time just because of bad information.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, like, stabbing him up the second time in the face.
Like, that was, ugh.
Savage.
Gladys in the woods waving to the drug addict.
What was that all about?
Yeah, that one, too, this is definitely a movie.
I would love to go back and, you know,
re-examine now that I've seen it through the ones,
pick up clues, pick up other bits of insider context.
Let's see.
We got Michael Medina Katuria.
Hey, Rejects.
This movie is a new staple of mine.
I loved it so much.
It really took its time, and the reveal of the batty was great.
Hands down, the boy that played Alex as a rising star, he was so believable.
Agree.
How did you feel at the end of the movie?
Did it leave you wanting more?
I've read people felt it left a lot unanswered, but I felt I was able to infer most things.
things. The questions I did still have only added to the mystery and I didn't feel like I needed answers for the movie to still be great. Yeah, I mean, I feel like what they, they definitely explained to you what happened. And yeah, I feel like the rest, I don't begrudge a movie leaving the rest up to you. I mean, it is a little bit like, oh, oh, oh, we're done. It's over. They, they, they, that feels like a classic movie kind of.
of thing or like an older i feel like a lot of older movies are like you reach that moment where
like okay the plot is resolved and now the movie is over and we don't have like a big coda or
something like that and i feel like you know the idea that they find the kids and josh brolin
walks off with his son and arm and you can at least infer that maybe he'll start talking again
you know that i thought was an appropriate place to stop but how did you guys feel uh yeah i thought
it was a good spot for it to stop oh like yeah it made sense they gave us all the content
because we needed in the events that followed afterwards.
I wouldn't say it left me wanting more,
just left me curious as to these other things
that we've talked about in the review,
but ultimately I felt the ending was really satisfying.
And, yeah, a lot of lives were ruined,
and then she got tore to shreds for it.
So it had me cheering and had me laughing
in a very unexpected way when I started this movie
and we're in the midst of it
and how the pieces all came together,
really worked surprisingly because you're like halfway through the movie you're like
where is this going like we're following this cop and I'm following this drug addict we're not even
touched on the stuff that the first two first two characters were dealing with and then
the way it culminated was was brilliant so yeah I think this uh felt really good and I am happy
that I watched it and I look forward to watching it again yeah I didn't really have like
that many unanswered questions I'm with you on the same page like
even if there are some questions
about like, why was she in the woods
like waving to him?
What do these things mean?
What's the gun in the air?
And it's this 217?
Like, how does this all work?
I'm with you that it still doesn't take away
from the movie for me,
especially with the ending
that we do find out
that the kids talk eventually.
My brain is sort of going,
are we leaving it open ended for,
which I don't think
that this would happen
could be a sequel just because the tree is still there.
We didn't burn it.
And that has a lot of branches on it still.
What is the tree?
I'm just saying, what does it mean?
Those branches will put some hair on it and it'll get you some weapons.
So.
Triangle mean.
I don't know.
That's all I got to say about that.
It is definitely a movie that instead of ending and leaving me, yeah, feeling like I didn't get all
that I expected out of the movie.
It just ended in a way where I was like,
I am excited to go back and re-examine it again.
It felt pretty well-rounded,
even if in the immediate moment,
I was like, oh, snap, we're already done.
But, yeah, leaving us wanting more,
I would only argue in a good way
in the way that you would hope.
And I do appreciate the sort of descent into madness,
the descent into the supernatural, all that stuff.
And I feel like once you get to that point,
you should probably wrap it up before too much long.
because they let it really breathe to set everything up and then once you realize that this is yeah like instead of barbarian which is a twisted but like human scenario this is yeah twisted supernatural scenario of sorts so yeah i i don't feel like i was jipped of any specific answers there uh heather gear
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What an intriguing movie?
Oddly enough, my only real issue is with
the narration at the beginning and the end.
I feel like the movie would have been better served
without it as it would then just drop you
into the story in the same state of confusion
as everyone else. And a concluding
statement I don't think was needed and could
have just left it with the visual we see.
if they had taken the narration out altogether,
do you think it would have changed
how you viewed the movie
and the events that happened?
For me, I feel like it gave me some expectations
that I could have done without.
Otherwise, it's a really cool and unique movie.
Love you guys.
Love you, too, Heather.
Appreciate you chiming.
And I appreciate you being honest.
I feel like it is hard to raise
some kind of, you know,
criticism, critique, you know,
in a scenario like this,
but I do appreciate that.
Did you guys have any qualms
with the narration?
No, because I feel like I said, an interesting tone of, okay, there's a child narrating,
give us a clue as to what has happened here.
Plus, I think the ending narration gave us some semblance of, okay, things are going to be okay.
At least in, I mean, not even okay, but, you know, we got some information as far as, like,
okay, he went somewhere to live with his aunt, because the kids eventually started talking again.
And, yeah, I don't know.
I thought it worked.
It didn't bother me.
I'm trying to think about it from your perspective, Heather.
I do agree that if we were just thrown in, the cops are there at Sue 17.
We look at camera footage.
And at the end, you kind of let your imagination get carried away.
We do see a pickup of the kids still feeding his parents Campbell,
so we know they're not fully back and like his parents.
So we're going to assume the same thing with Josh Brolin holding the kid.
And I guess we just go out going like, well, okay, I guess that's their life for the
rest of the time like they he never really gets his kid back and the kid never really gets his
parents back it's like um even though we killed her uh it didn't really fully end this
horror story that they will still be currently living in so i'm with you that it's not
necessarily needed but i really didn't mind it because i think they they did great casting with
it like the second she was talking and you can tell it was a kid and i was like
like she's brilliant, dialogue's great, pacing, tone, love it, sold.
If it was unbelievable, I'd be extra with you, but it wasn't very realistic, very grounded,
great performance, so I didn't mind it.
Yeah, it's so funny.
Now that you've brought it up, I could imagine that being a note and imagine an earlier cut
of this movie not having narrations on either end.
And I would be curious to see that.
I don't begrudge at the narration, and I think it does do something to set this tone of
a fable of sorts or a fairy tale almost you know it is a relatively grounded movie for a while
but it certainly does take on this sort of weird not Hansel and Gretel but you know it kind of feels
like some kind of grims fairy tale or something like that and so yeah I feel like it could have felt
way more tacked on or way more unnecessary I don't disagree and it's often it's a film school thing
It's like, hey, you just only do a narration when you really need it or if you, you know, don't rely on it to give us the exposition.
I do feel like there's some utility in having the narration up top.
And at the end, I think it does probably, I could imagine that being like a test screening note or something of like,
it would be good to at least leave us off on a slightly happy, like decisively happier note or with some semblance of hope.
I do appreciate that it doesn't end just like, oh, everyone went back to normal.
It's like, who knows?
Some of these kids might be affected like this forever.
The galaxy's parents, I sort of have no faith, will ever recover fully.
And, yeah, I would be very curious to see it either way.
But I don't think that this set up any expectations for me that weren't delivered on
or that it tampered with the movie experience in that way for me.
Like, once the narration happened, I think, too, once you're, we touched on this in the reaction.
Like, you're cutting around to so many perspectives after a while.
Like, the narration becomes this sort of distant primer in your brain.
Yeah.
But I'll look at that, too.
You know, whenever I wind up seeing this again, I would love to go see this in a theater before it's gone.
So, yeah, so I could definitely see there being differing opinions on it.
And part of me is, yeah, curious to see what it would have been like.
But I thought the performance, too, like you said, was so strong on that.
And I really liked the verbiage, I guess, like it is straightforward.
it feels like a kid could be saying it
and they're just like a little couple of things
here and there that feel a little more
personable or a little more prosy
so I like the voice that it was delivered
into just from a writing and
performance perspective
Resonance Z
or resonances
I loved the movie and how it
drip fed information with the different
perspectives
agree. Question
do you like how Gladys was portrayed
before the actual reveal.
I thought it would have been cool
if she was in more of the
different perspectives just
in the background. Either way, Gladys
was such a fun character. I wouldn't even mind
a prequel with her being a bigger focus.
Risky business, but I mean, I
wouldn't turn it down on the
strength of the performance alone.
And yeah, I am very
curious to see if she actually is peppered
in more and it's just easy to miss, but
how do you guys feel? Did you want more of her
woven throughout or were you happy with the marcus story reveal on her i i thought it was interesting
the way they utilize her i feel like my brain that's just endlessly curious would have wanted some
semblance of understanding as to why she was showing up because she wasn't obviously she was a witch
and she could do spells but why she was showing up in people's dreams and people were like barely
seeing her all the tension of that was intriguing because she just
has an off-putting appearance
but yeah once she was actually revealed
she's a very menacing character
and my initial gut reaction
was like no let's not do a Gladys
prequel but then I think of a movie like Pearl
and I was like okay I wouldn't mind
I didn't seem Pearl but that's exactly where my mind went
Pearl's great I love Pearl but yeah
but yeah that's where my mind goes
so like yeah seeing like a younger Gladys
and how she became a witch
and like what other things and people
she's murdered prior to this point
It would be fascinating.
I think it would be a really good time
if Zach Reg ever wanted to do that.
I think that Gladys is such a striking visual
that if we did see her in the background more
when she first comes into the school,
you're still not quite sure that she's at the helm
of this whole freaking thing.
You're like, this just might be another like point of view
some weird freaking character.
And then obviously we get to it once we get home.
But I think because she's such a strong,
striking visual that if we saw her too much in all the backgrounds you'd probably add up the pieces
I think a little too quickly and it wouldn't it wouldn't leave as much room for I guess the imagination
and like where the F are we going with this um there was one point I don't think that it was her
but you guys saw me I was like in the video and it looks like a person standing there in the shadow
by the tree when the girl was running it was dark
I don't know go back to it zoom in you can tell me if I'm right it wrong
it's funny the more we're sitting here the more we're talking the more it feels to me
like this is this feels almost like some kind of classic witch story that's just been like
totally deconstructed and represented in a vastly different packaging or a vastly
different means of communicating the story because what happens in a lot of witch tales you
know, like some mysterious lady moves into town and then slowly things start to become more
paranoid or sinister for some reason or another. And then by the end, you've got, you know, a full
on, you know, hold taken by this shadowy force presence, these spells, this ritual, whatever it is
she's doing with her, you know, thorns and sticks and stuff like that. You know, that's another
thing that a second viewing will definitely give me clarity on. As it stands here, I was so invested in
the ride as it was unfolding anyway that by the time we finally met Gladys for reels uh you know
they did enough with the kids having her makeup and the little flashes that i was like okay
finally who is this what what are we doing here um so i was still pretty satisfied by how it was
communicated um and i think that you know the first chunk of the movie really breathes a lot um so
i don't know if i would want to sacrifice that for having more gladys around but i am again
curious if she is actually in more parts of the movie than you realize it first.
But I can definitely see you wanting that.
I could see you watching this and being like, oh, this random lady now is so important.
But I kind of like that her influence is this thing that we have zero percent inkling she's
got anything to do.
We don't even know she's a character until much later.
And we already see the effects of her, you know, spreading across everyone in the town.
So I feel like her presence is felt before.
before she even arrives, or at least in hindsight, I feel her presence largely due to the strength
of the motif of the Roshaman, the different perspectives and all that stuff.
But yeah, super fun character.
That actor is, holy shit.
Like, I hope this is, you know, not a genre that gets a wide breadth of recognition, but, like,
what a performance.
What a cool opportunity for that actor to really come in and do some creepy, striking, wild,
and kooky, funny, even, but so sinister.
And, yeah, I feel like, I feel like there are other various horror characters and stuff
that will be better remembered maybe or more, you know, name-checked.
But I feel like this was a standout role, standout performance, and hats off.
Excellent job.
Jay Rushden.
Like, is Brolin in the role better than Pascal, Pedro Pascal, who left the movie for a conflict
schedule question.
Do you think a prequel is needed?
They are in talks on
this.
I think to the prequel, as you said,
it's like, I don't think they need it, but if
you find your
weapons proxy for
Mia Gauth, who is going to take this role and
just run with it, I could
see it working. I don't, I
would be a bit apprehensive.
I don't think they need to,
but stranger things have happened, and
and they could turn out
something real devilish and cool.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I think that one,
I didn't know Pedro Pascal's originally supposed
to be in this.
That's fascinating.
I forgot,
but yeah,
I had heard this.
And honestly,
I kind of can't imagine it.
It's weird.
Pedro Pascal has played a lot of,
you know,
Joel is a grieving father.
Yeah.
But it's funny,
like,
his character in this movie
is kind of dressed like a Joel
as character.
So it's funny that he could,
he would have been.
And also,
they would have not beaten the allegations
that Petro Pascoe was everywhere.
So even though, you know, I love Petro Boscoe
and I would happily welcome
anytime I see him.
But yeah, I
would be down for the prequel. I think the thing
with prequels, though, and
Andrew and I watched a prequel
of sorts recently.
Oh, yes. And I think if the prequel
justifies its own existence within its
narrative, then it's worthy
of being made.
But if it's just be made
a cash grab to like milk more of a franchise, then leave it alone.
But I feel like Zach Greger would have a good reason for making a prequel if they decided
to do one.
Is there enough goodwill at the moment?
What do you think?
I'm thinking sequel, but, uh, because the tree.
Now listen, if the prequel is like this lady is, I say leave it, but also if we're
going to try to explain it, we're going to have to go, she's old, she got sick.
Did she always have witch powers?
Where did she get the tree?
How did she find it?
Does a tree give her powers, now the tree is still there, and who gets it next?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just saying there's a lot, the branches and the tree is still there, and we might get lost.
I might get lost in the tree nonsense.
I'm going to tell you that right now.
I'll tell you, I need, I don't need it to make sense right now.
So I would just say, don't just make a prequel because now Pascal's schedule has opened up, and maybe you want to see him in it.
He's going to play Gladys.
The young Gladys Pascal.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's funny.
I think Pedro Pascal's a terrific actor.
I'm sure he could have done it, but I do think that this worked out fortunately and that
Josh Brolin, I, again, I don't live on the timeline where we have seen, can see the Pascal version, but I think Josh Brolin was the right choice.
He brought, I really bought the, he's got to be a guy who's a little bit scary when he's mad that way.
And Josh Brolin, big dude, you know, and even those scenes where he's at the construction site, we hardly spend any time there.
But he immediately kind of communicates this man's man, you know, sort of like, not brick shit house, but, you know, he's a big dude.
And I feel like, yeah, the blend of his physicality, which is supposed to be very sort of scary when he's coming at Justine, you know, and the reversals for that in the moments.
It's like when he's crying and he says that thing about, like, I should have said it, I want to say it.
Like, you get the sense in this one brief moment that, like, this is a guy who's, like, not really told his kid he loves him very much.
And you can see that in the kid's behavior.
Yeah.
And, yeah, there's just something about the more hard, weathered quality that Josh Brolin brings that I think really complimented what was here.
And I think he got to bring, it was very natural, you know, it's like he wasn't overacting, but he also has the chops to really say.
a role and this guy's
perspective. So yeah, I think
I don't think it
would have been better. I just think it would have been different
but I'm glad actually that it worked out this way.
And yeah, prequel,
I don't know, man.
I could see it working,
I can see it not working, but I'm glad
that this worked.
Tunday Show, thank you
for chiming in. Appreciate you joining us.
How did you feel about the cutting
from different perspectives?
I loved it.
me too same yeah i really loved it as well because it not only gave you different perspectives
and pieces of the story but it also each individual portion had different aspects of
of in-depth humanity without over explaining what the different dynamics of each character were
you know you got a sense that there was this contentious history between justine and paul you
got the sense that um josh brolin's character was this hard-ass who was
he had a lot of regret
for the fact that he didn't tell the son he loved him,
which is why he was looking for a target
to blame his own guilt about not protecting his son on.
And that was Justine being the only thing he could grasp
at some sense of rationale being the target of his frustration,
which he was kind of projecting because he felt a lot of guilt
about the fact that he wasn't a father
that maybe was the most there for his son.
even the dynamic between Paul and the drug addict
and how their stories kind of intersect with one another,
each having their own motivations and struggles,
and then how those personal things in the little tidbitant of their life
all wrap up to bring them into the situation.
I thought all that stuff was great.
Even if this didn't have the horror stuff,
I think these are characters that I would want to follow.
And I think the fact that the horror aspects of it add to that
only make it that much better of a movie.
yeah i think cutting from the different perspectives keeps you a little bit more on the edge of your seat we're seeing a climax of most of the character's story and then we cut to a different uh point of view which is great because we do get to see the story from different angles which is really awesome just for the camera and we're seeing the same lines but it didn't get boring you're like i need to know what happened after this because they had cut prior so um i think from an audience's perspective it
It keeps the pacing, like, really going, and it keeps that urge to be like, I need to get to the end of this.
I want to solve this puzzle so that when, like, Josh Brolin is bringing out his map, you're like, yeah, draw those red lines.
Get out that roller.
We're going to solve this mystery.
Like, you're so here for it.
So I think that it was a really smart way to put this movie together because I think if it had been linear, it,
just no just not the same movie not as good so the way they did it it needed to be done this way
and a brilliant film i would love to see their cork board of time geography just you know because
it does take a lot of you know consideration to map these things out but yeah i really really like
that and i really liked that it committed to that motif and allowed you to spend that time like
it didn't seem like it was ever rushed or in a hurry it's funny we sat down and i was like oh wow two
hours nine minutes huh like i usually expect like a tight 90 or an hour 45 and this you know
i think really well earned its runtime by doing that and and doing that not only contributes to
the larger story it brings everybody up to where they're going to be when the shit really
hits the fan in the third act climax but also it just makes for a really fun game uh it's a good
tool for drawing you in as an audience member because you get to form associations based like
the second the story begins you start forming associations based on whose perspective you're in and then you cut to a different perspective and then you get a whole different sense for things you know when when justine and paul meet up you definitely believe the doubts that have been cast on justine in those situations and you kind of look at well you know you know like this cop guy he must you know be and he seems to be trying to encourage her towards a better path then you come to realize later like oh that's more for you not to fall off the wag
and you know you're actually kind of a piece of shit you know you got this girl who's like all
about you and who's like coming home early and you're going to go to the parents anniversary dinner
you are not off again at all like and and yeah I thought that they it's always gratifying to me
when you watch something like this and you experience characters who feel like they have
life that is not tied to the plot and I thought this did a really nice job of that where it's like
even though we're not always spending the lion's share of time dissecting that stuff
everybody I bought as just a real person with their own flaws
and it was fun getting to learn about those flaws
and then like the Paul to James turnaround was so fun
because Paul is like oh boy like you know small town cop
who like you know is does have that attitude when Julia Garner calls him out
and you're like you know it's whatever whatever he says you know
you're like that's not inspiring from any law enforcement official your attitude
yeah like the whole exchange we see with James obviously not a kind of guy
who's going to garner the most trust and respect from people in authority or whatever,
but also still just like he takes that whole, he's always unplugging the dash cam and like
clearly not a great cup, but also Alden Aaron Reich is playing him really genuinely.
And he doesn't feel like a bad dude.
He just feels like a guy with some real struggles who should probably be going to those meetings.
And I thought, yeah, it was really smart to, you know,
kind of show all the adults who we've got the major perspectives from unravel some of the mystery
from that POV, and then we really get our deep dive when we cut to Alex finally.
And, yeah, you know, people you come to trust, you know, are ultimately warped and twisted.
Marcus, obviously.
You know, and I thought that turn after seeing Archer's perspective, Justine's perspective,
getting them on board with each other, I thought was really nicely handled with all the stuff
regarding Marcus freaking out
and trying to murder her in the streets
so yeah I thought that was a really cool
really choice motif
that again was really well earned
and it feels like they really
did all the thinking it wasn't a gimmick
they really you know fleshed that out
and mapped it out and I yeah
my hats off to them on that
Mark Leach closing out our Q&A
loved this film
just like his film before
Barbarian
Zach Kregor has a unique style.
I love how he writes characters and makes you always unsure what the hell's going on.
Now he is up for the next Resident Evil film,
but I want to know what horror franchise would you like to see him bring his unique style too.
I would love to see him do like an Italian gialo riff.
I know they remade Susperea already,
but I would love to see him to tackle something that's even further into the surreal and the expressionist.
Personally, how about you guys?
Terry, you got one?
Well, I kind of have two.
It would be really interesting to see how he would direct a saw
and to see how he would direct a purge.
Yeah.
Because those are very two stylized horror franchises
that I think his take on it, as you're saying,
Mark, you know, like trying to figure out what the actual F is going on,
that I could only imagine
that we would take it out of context
almost like you would go back
to the first saw film
and then you right
where you're like what the fuck
oh my God he was alive the whole time
like that's wild
I feel like we got into so many saws
that I feel like he would dissect them
in a weird way
that you would be like
I'm sorry what's happening
and the same with Perch
I think that he would find
a really creative way to still show you that world but keep you more at the edge of your seat
so that it's not so linear in the explanation right because we kind of know where we're at the
top of most of those movies once we start to watch them so i find i think that would be a lot of
fun under p yeah as you were sitting there talking uh i was thinking like a couple and i
granted i haven't seen the nightmare in elmell street movies but i feel like i don't know he has
sensibility that could be something unique to that and i think him doing an alien movie bringing
his more sensibilities to that and his unique uh take on character would be really fun
that would be unravel and maybe even do it like an unaliener style as well and the stuff yeah with like
uh replicants and things in those stories on top of the creature work i think would lend themselves
nicely to a zach krigger joint uh and two yeah i mean just shouts out to to his style because uh such
assured visual language on both of these movies and like you pointed out like that slow pan across the
neighborhood in that one like late night sequence all those like locked off door shots and stuff like that
like a lot of really strong choices that really make you sit down and marvel and go like man like
this guy must have a very clear vision and granted it's departments it's multiple people it's
directors of photography and other stuff but like the use of zooms the use of
slow pans and you know unique shot choreography but not in your face all the time so that when you do get like a cool ass oneer running through a house or something like that like it's really able to kind of wallop you in those moments and the musical flourishes the sound designs just the way it puts you in the atmosphere of the setting like where they shot this uh just really evoked a particular kind of you know tight-knit town paranoia
like truly in two films a dude who I'm like, damn, I want to study your style and like, you know, take some pointers because a lot of these techniques are older school, you know, the slow pan, the slow zoom, stuff like that. And I think he really knows timing, you know, like the ways in which he allows certain moments to just let you stew in the wondering of what the hell is about to happen next. And sometimes it's nothing and sometimes it's really something.
uh and the ways in which too he intermingles horror and and humor i think is really fun and and
and striking and you know it's like in that third act it's like he runs through the family's
house and it's like the panic you understand it and yet it's kind of funny when the woman's like
oh my god there's a man in here now yeah after these kids just ran through the house you know um really
yeah a a filmmaker who in two films really seems fully formed and granted there's certainly
growth to come it's not like there's nothing you can improve on here but uh hats off and i'm really
inspired honestly i'm gonna change one of my answers i don't because i haven't seen nightmare in elm street
i think he could re revitalize jaws if he wanted to cool that'd be fun very cool okay that could be
cool yeah definitely get those uh those dolly zooms going on maybe you know as a jaws movie like it's a
Secret Jaws movie.
I do love a surprise.
It's a this.
We don't get very many splits very often.
But I do like a, yeah, like a surprise.
Oh, this kind of movie?
Hell yeah.
Which, I mean, to me, this actually did have.
I was like, this is a witch movie?
Cool.
I love witch movies.
Totally.
Secret witch movies.
Snuck it in and I had no idea.
But yeah, any other thoughts or feelings before we run out Naruto style into the night?
It's almost 217 here.
Not for me
I would just say
Great job
Zach Kregger's
I don't know if he was a UCB guy
Because sometimes I'm looking at his name
And I'm like
He could have been
He was not the whitest kids you know
Oh
Let's find out
Let's find out
Zach Kregor
Yeah
He probably was then
Virginia Brooklyn
Founding member of the Whiteest Kids
You know
I mean he's got to have
Yeah
Experience regardless
But, uh, oh, okay.
Right.
Uh, da, da, da, ba, da, da, ba, da, da, but da, but da, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
He's got comedy.
Yeah, he definitely does.
You might have seen him around, Tara.
Yeah, that's what I was seeing in my head.
I was like, why do I know the Craigers, like, the last name, maybe?
Anyway, um, yeah, great job on both of his films.
I did not know that this is the guy who did the,
the things so good job buddy you're you're doing it i believe in you keep slaying yeah he was awesome
um directorially and you know with the pen and with the music and with the music contributing to the
music yeah no all of it was great and really unique and i'm excited to see what he does next oh he's
married to sarah paxton no wonder she showed up in that one scene ah and he must also be married
to Justin Long.
Yeah.
It was just the nicest surprise.
I was like, oh, hey, every movie of yours,
I'm just going to be blindsided
with Justin Long at some point.
All right, gang, that's been weapons.
We have been Tara, Aaron, and Johnald.
Thank you for joining us.
This is a blast.
This is definitely going to be one
when people ask, like,
what are some of your favorite reaction?
Yeah.
This is going to be one of them.
Can't wait to watch it again in the theaters.
And, yeah, be well.
Leave us your thoughts.
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