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Starting point is 00:02:21 A little mixed bag for me in between, but I thought one and four were pretty wrong. Rock. One was good. I thought four was pretty great, but I have some, a lot of different opinions to zigzag around here. But let's try to keep just a little bit of focus. We got a little bit of time here, but I want to make sure we give a qualitative talk. John, let's kick off with you, man. What would you say your favorite of the four were right off the bat? I would probably agree with you that the first and the fourth are the strongest. And I mean, you know, fours got fester. so I feel like it goes there for me and it is more momentous and you're doing less setting up

Starting point is 00:02:59 of stuff and establishing what's happened over the summer and all that so I think yeah episode four certainly you know I wasn't sure what to expect from the structure of this like four and four release but yeah this was a pretty compelling like you know things coming to a head scenario

Starting point is 00:03:14 and obviously you know Wednesday is not going to die but you know leaving her off in such a perilous moment is a pretty solid and cliffhanger for at least a bit of an act break here sure so yeah i would say the fourth one's definitely the strongest one uh and yeah overall i would say i'm definitely still having fun and enjoying being in the world of netflix wednesday but yeah i have some some mixed feelings about the overall experience also uh what would you say has been your favorite what's like the new thing that they have introduced or plotline or whatever character that you might find to be

Starting point is 00:03:51 like the best part of this so far. Hmm. That's a great question. There are a lot of new things I'm intrigued about. I mean, I'm really enjoying the new ensemble players, most certainly. Things have been kind of... I'm not honestly sure at the moment

Starting point is 00:04:12 because part of it feels like I need to see what the totality of certain things is and they are sort of introducing and then dealing with things in a different manner that I would have expected. For sure. I thought it was a really nice splash of color, though, when grandmamma finally shows up.

Starting point is 00:04:27 And I hate myself for not remembering who's playing her, but just like the few moments she was on screen were like really electric. Like she crackled the second she showed up. And even though I would also agree, like the sort of inter-family drama is an interesting choice that sometimes works for me. And sometimes I have questions about, You know, like her being less of the sort of,

Starting point is 00:04:55 oh, she's just kooky grandma more sort of like, okay, she's like a power player of the Adams family sort of is interesting. And she brought a lot of fun flavor to the character in this introductory fashion and too it brought some flavors out of Wednesday that I had been missing a little bit, also having her around, which was nice. So I think she left certainly an impression. Well, about you, Aaron, what was you say? What episode was your favorite of these?

Starting point is 00:05:23 I think four, because we are finally getting into the groove of what this mystery was. And it seems like, you know, some of those things that were set up in the beginning half of the season have, you know, been sort of resolved. I'm very curious where the second half goes. You know, we found out who this doctor was, found out who the Raven girl was. You still don't know what happens to Enid. But yeah, I think overall, it's been a mixed. bag, but I'm still enjoying the characters. I still like Wednesday,

Starting point is 00:05:53 who's obviously the title character. They write her really well, and Jen Ortega finds ways to keep this character interesting, and the way she just delivers her dialogue is always captivating. She's the best part of the show for me still. I like

Starting point is 00:06:09 the new character, the soccer character. She's fun. I think that she brings a fun new dynamic to the team. Yeah, I thought she was great. I would agree. She's probably my favorite edition. Unexpected. You know, they revealed her pretty early,

Starting point is 00:06:24 but I like the fact that for something that was teased at the end of last season, they found a way to incorporate her into the plot and into this new team. And she's a lovely new addition. But, yeah, I think because this episode, for as many things that are going on, was a little bit more focus. I like the fact that Fester was kind of more front and center of this episode. I've been missing his energy throughout the season.

Starting point is 00:06:48 And, yeah, the family drama. stuff is interesting you know where they had some of that in season one with you know wednesday i wanted to be like her mom and exploring their relationship and we're exploring the accents of that this season and it's kind of weird how everybody has their own sort of subplot going on in the adams family except for gomez he's just kind of like they're that i don't know i wish he was more involved uh directly as far as like having something important to do but um Yeah, I'm enjoying the season. I'm very curious as to see where they go going forward.

Starting point is 00:07:24 I don't think the mystery up to this point has been the, it's not been boring, but it hasn't like captivated me at the edge of my seat. But I think this new development of, oh, these are actually all patients that this, you know, this plot that she's trying to uncover, this mystery is trying to uncover, is, Oh, people that have all been experimented on. Okay, like, where do we go from there? So, yeah, and they found a way to bring Tyler back, and I'm very curious to see where he goes going forward.

Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah, man. What about you? I mean, I've said it a few times while we were watching it, that one and four were easier than my favorite ones. I think two and three were, it's weird. like that so much like got revealed and resolved and people died in four and yet I feel like two and three kind of stretched out a little bit when when it's like oh it's only four episodes but it feels like it kind of stretched out to get to this really captivating plot development point because yeah we're cutting around a lot and I'm totally blinking on everyone's name right now I'm blinking on literally everyone's name right now I'm blinking on literally everyone's name a siren girl Steve Boucher

Starting point is 00:08:47 Principal Dort Yeah because there's a lot of a lot There's a lot of different plot lines Let's see if we can like Recapture some of them right We got stalker girl We have Enid and

Starting point is 00:08:59 Her triangle of boys Triangle of Boys Bruno We have Mortisha We have the thing with You know the psych powers And the book And the family drama there

Starting point is 00:09:13 We got B-Boy and Bugsley with a zombie. Then we have Siren's mom. Then we got... The thing with all the campers. All the campers, yeah. Then we got Willow Hill. Everything at Willow Hill is going on. There's so many different plot lines happening.

Starting point is 00:09:34 And the first season was kind of perfectly constructed. This is just like, I'd be using season one as a comparison not to be like, Christmas Season 1 did so great. And I mean, sometimes it is that feeling of like, this is what's the one did so great. And other times it's just like the perfect thing to compare it to because it's a sequel season is like you're watching it strictly through Wednesday's point of view,

Starting point is 00:09:56 barely cutting away from her point of view when you're watching that show. And it's sending her, and the plot narrative is also rooted in her character arc of someone who just refuses to let people in and keep them at a distance. Here I'm like, I'm not really sure what her character arc is being set up to be it doesn't really seem like it's really a thing here you know like

Starting point is 00:10:19 she accepts the fact that she accepts what that she can have some respect and fame for people like i'm not really sure what they're setting up here um maybe it's about resolute with the mom and yeah the adams family drama stuff has been that's been like such a mixed bag for me because I A lot of the plot lines without Wednesday I don't find that interest like Enid I don't find particularly interested anymore I don't

Starting point is 00:10:50 I feel like they don't really know what to do with her and they're trying to make it seem like that's part of the point of like her push Wednesday pushing her away but I'm like I don't really feel like that's even a plot of Wednesday really pushing her away It seems like you had an opportunity to actively push her away It just seems like circumstantial Yeah exactly and then they're like

Starting point is 00:11:08 It seems like manufactured drama, you know, like, oh, she's trying to make it more of that relatable thing with when teenagers are moving on and stuff. So I get it. I understand the intention. I just don't really feel much for it. Maybe if I was a younger girl or something or a woman now, I might have appreciated it more or something or go back to my childhood as a boy and try to revolve. But I'm just not really feeling anything for that right now. But the Wednesday, the Adam's family drama, I think, is a little tonally conflicting because they, try to have like the Adams family

Starting point is 00:11:41 quote unquote macabre humor but then they're trying to make it like a melodramatic soap opera a lot of the time with them so then that macab humor doesn't feel sincere it feels like they're doing it because they have to do it where as opposed to like fester that feels sincere

Starting point is 00:11:56 fester feels like a natural part even even grandmamma that feels sincere but a lot of the stuff with morticia in particular like I buy it more when it is going more dramatic and serious but do I really care about the drama? Not really. Do I believe it more than when they're doing? They're like Gomez, Morticia, romantic stuff? Not really. There's sexuality chemistry. I never really

Starting point is 00:12:21 bought it in the first season. That was even before I watched Adam's Family movies. And then even now more so I'm like, I just really don't feel the chemistry here. And that's, there's parts that where I'm like, I could see what they're trying to do, like amplify more of that riff. But I actually felt like keeping them less involved made Wednesday season one stronger and now they're way more involved and I feel like it kind of weighs down the experience and note

Starting point is 00:12:46 they're barely, they're not as much in this fourth episode and this was like a much more exciting episode and more propulsive and I am finding this season kind of at odds with itself where they want to be a little bit more Adam's

Starting point is 00:13:02 family vibe, not just the characters but like the vibe of Anna's family like two Episode 2 and 3 really seem to be going for that more, that quirkiness, whereas that's part of the charm of Wednesday season 1 is like, while it's in the Adam's family world, when you take the Adam's family out and you just put Wednesday in Wednesday's world, the mystery, the murder, the horror, all of that is really felt. And that's why 4 excels because 4 is pretty much the spotlight of why Wednesday season 1 works so well. And one encapsulates a lot of that, too, for the setup, four, for the payoff of it. That's like my general thoughts on it, you know? Like, yes, is it fun? I was a little bit worried that I wasn't going to like it when, like, two was kind of whatever,

Starting point is 00:13:47 and three was really the one I'd like the absolute least. I wasn't even, like, having fun with the game, you know? The game just seemed like perfunctory, like, they have to do it. And then when leader of Anthony Michael Hall died, and like the fact that there was like no real reaction or response to something like that this is like that that's what the that's what that's what that was like the biggest telling point to me of of where the odds of trying to be adam's family vibe fun is conflicting with the world that was set up in wednesday season one you know i think there's a bit of a tight rope that they've found themselves on in doing this show and especially in this second season because they're in a place where they're no longer abnormal they're normal in this fish bowl of abnormal people and I feel like oftentimes I find myself you know like the fun of the Adams family is yes

Starting point is 00:14:41 they delight in all these ghastly things and they have that in the dialogue but I don't buy it a ton in the performances except from like Louise Guzma sometimes and it's like I really like watching them do these characters I like the fun of beholding this show in its world even still but there is something and it is apparent

Starting point is 00:15:01 for me in Wednesday also and especially because this is a bit more spread out like I guess in the first season it makes a little bit more sense that it's her presence in this season feels a little bit clockwork to me in the sense that like I can suss

Starting point is 00:15:17 the rhythm of her dialogue and where they're going to have her quote something and she's like such a sour puss you can anticipate the joke too a lot of time you can anticipate the joke it's verging it's not quite there it's verges on that sort of like too cool hot topic kind of thing and again Grant that's part of

Starting point is 00:15:35 it doesn't feel outlandish for a character like Wednesday but I found myself here at times less effortlessly enjoying Wednesday because she is kind of I don't know there's an element of that devilish delight that is kind of missing for me for her and in the show in general because again we're in a place where

Starting point is 00:15:58 their delight in the you know, ghastly isn't, again, out of place or abnormal. So you've got to kind of work harder to make them stand out or make them quirky. And the characterization, especially from like more tissue. Again, I like in isolation, the performance. But having there be a more dramatic Adam's family and having them care in a different way about so many things kind of messes for me a bit with the purity of like the, yeah, the heightened nature of who they are. Definitely.

Starting point is 00:16:30 and the cartoon like gomez always at least feels like he's in a comic strip and that's fine with me i kind of like that but yeah there's a weird like okay okay okay i get it you're this macab family but like seems like some shit actually just drives like upsets you yeah whereas i didn't really feel like that's a kind of core character element before i would agree with that i would agree with that yeah i feel like this season just has a lot going on what makes because you want to care about your characters but you also want to be engaged in the mystery and the plot and of itself and I feel like there's so much going on. It makes it a little harder.

Starting point is 00:17:03 Like, even speaking to Wednesday and Enid's relationship, right? I don't like the stuff they have going on with Enid because I'm like, oh, that, the, was it Gorgon, that was called? Oh, yeah, Ajax. Yeah. I felt like he, their relationship was cool in the first season. I felt like. Loved it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:20 And the reasoning for it, like, oh, it just grew apart. Like, oh, I didn't really like myself. But now that I found myself, like, I don't really want to mess with you anymore. I'll just go with this other hot guy. I was like, it just feels really shallow to me. And the fact that we have that going on, well, Wednesday's motivation is to save her friend, but not really exploring their relationship at all, just keeping her separate. You don't really buy it because I don't really buy the fact that she cares about this girl

Starting point is 00:17:45 because she's more focused on the job than her relationship with her friend. And maybe, you know, it's not about the melodrama of their relationship. but I just feel like there's a lot of different directions that's being pulled in. Plus, we keep talking about the family stuff, and I like the expansion of the lore in the family, but the other part of it's like, okay, we keep mentioning the sister, but we have yet to pay off the sister thing, and it seems like that's something that's going to come. If it doesn't in the second half, that's kind of wild. But yeah, that's where most of the drama is taking place with, you know, with Wednesday and her mom.

Starting point is 00:18:23 because Pugley's stuff isn't necessarily drama. It just seems like another plot thing that they had to have them involved in to set up. And now that that's gone, they kind of put them to the side. They literally had the siren girl say like, hey, stay here. We need you in this episode.

Starting point is 00:18:37 Bianca. Yeah, that's your name. Yeah, and then I felt like the stuff with the mom just doesn't really seem that interesting as well. And it seems like they're going to set that up more in the second half of the season because she is, okay, the stuff with Steve Buscemi and her being manipulated and then she has wanted to protect her mom,

Starting point is 00:18:51 but neither of them really feel interesting. interesting or satisfying yeah and that's the thing there's a lot of the uninteresting stuff is is kind of stand like season one's not perfect but there's a lot a lot of the enjoyability of it outweighs a lot of the things that are maybe not the best and here I'm like the stuff that's not really working really is shining a light you know so much so that we feel like we have to like talk about it and we haven't even talked about I I'm aware that there's like a lot of good stuff to talk about that we that we will dive into but yeah like we're getting some of this out of the way Yeah, and I think the combination of having new characters and having the Adams family and pushing out the old characters and making them less interesting, I think it's hurting the show and what's the other than is helping it.

Starting point is 00:19:34 Because, yeah, they wrote Zeke out of the show and he was great in season, season one. His name was Zekiel? Xavier. Xavier, my bad, Xavier. The artist. Oh, they had like a personal life thing. Oh, did he really? Yeah, it was announced like, it was like shortly after Wednesday.

Starting point is 00:19:50 I even forgot what it is, but that shortly after. Wednesday season one they were they immediately said like he's not going to be back for season two oh shoot okay I didn't like some bullshit he did I don't remember but it was apparently really misconduct oh no they should have recast him then I think

Starting point is 00:20:07 that would have been a okay honestly yeah I think it would have been totally fine he's a type you could yeah I think that would be no shade but also you could find a guy to match this role you totally could have recast him and I wonder if that did affect a little bit of their story that they set up because it's some interesting stuff that

Starting point is 00:20:22 they did here like some stuff now from like from negative so a little bit of mixed bag expectation like the thing that surprised me um is how well stalker girl works because the setup of season two was she has a stalker who's this stalker um we have this really strong opening in episode one of this season and i like the setup too of like oh is this where we're taking the show so we're going to have multiple seasons like she uses her psychic abilities and it's hunting serial killers is like is this what we're going to do and it seems like it was just kind of a one-off thing for the summer. I was kind of surprised Wednesday wasn't focused on who's stalking me.

Starting point is 00:20:55 And then she waits to come back to school to be like, okay, now let's focus on my stalker. And then when they reveal who the stalker is versus letting it be like a big mystery reveal and letting it be your big villain, I was like, okay, that's a little, I was a little bit like, it's not as cathartic or rewarding as I hoped it would be. But okay. What surprised me is how engaging she's still. is after that so much so i prefer when she's on screen way more than when enid's on screen i i like

Starting point is 00:21:26 i like watching her interact uh with wednesday and uh the presence that she really does bring and she's such a tim burton like character that uh that's that's the part that i really surprised was like ah this is kind of not as cool as i hoped it would be but then suddenly i'm like but this is working for me in a very different way than i ever anticipated it would work so there's a bit of a subversion there. I mean, how did you feel when they finally reveal who the stalker was after episode two? I thought she was really fun.

Starting point is 00:21:55 And the way they introduced her kind of reminded me of how Tim Burton used the treasure cat in Alice in Wonderland. And she just has, yeah, she has that look to her, you know, and just the energy she brings. And they find clever and fun ways to utilize her, which makes her have

Starting point is 00:22:11 value over the course of this show. And yeah, I'd like I like the development of her and Wednesday's relationship like okay you're insistent on being around so I'll utilize you as somebody to help aid my efforts but yeah I think they

Starting point is 00:22:29 they have done really well with her and I'm excited to see where things go with her and her relationship with Wednesday and yeah and I felt like maybe we need to find other ways to utilize Enid because the stuff her subplot not really working coupled with

Starting point is 00:22:45 with her Wednesday not really having a lot of scenes together. It doesn't, I feel like the show is not succeeding if you don't have me invested in the fact that this girl might die. Like at this one, I'm like, all right, like, you're not adding much value to the show right now anyway, so, you know, let's get the other girl involved. But, yeah, John, honey you too. Reject Nation, I have officially lost over 45 pounds this year. I am still working on a couple of extra goals for body composition.

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Starting point is 00:25:04 Thanks to Heel for sponsoring this video. Well, yeah, and there's a certain thing of, like, there is a kind of cacophony of events happening that on the one hand, I appreciate the chaos and the quirk of, and obviously, like, all the different places you get to go. The production values are pretty top-notch, and, like, you know, the expansion of what it's like to live in this world is lovely. But, yeah, with that triangle, I would agree, like, it was a nice surprise to, like, I'll take an early reveal, and, you know, it's like, okay, this takes care of some of the questions, but then they take care of all the questions. But yeah, I like that that's one element that actually kind of greases the wheels for what Wednesday is doing. And you do get some of that sort of vigor from Wednesday, even if she is delegating to her stalker character. Like, that's a part of the season I enjoyed in both its pre version and its post version, partly because, too, there's a lot of stuff happening that I feel like Wednesday does not want to be involved with, nor has the patience for. And sometimes it leaves me feeling like she doesn't really want to be in her own show.

Starting point is 00:26:08 yeah and so which in not quite the way you want it to be and so like yeah when she's working with her stalker and they're planning the i want to remember that character's name but when they're planning like the break in and all that stuff like that's stuff that also gets you know the sort of momentum of the plot and your lead character aligned in a way that then harmonized and i can further enjoy and also i feel like do we do we get any sort of invisible folk in the first no i don't think so That's a cool expansion power too. So, all right, so we got a few more, we got a few more things to go through here. John, Steve Buscemi, what do you think about him? He's very fun, and I figured, you know, replacing weems, you would need either, you would probably need some kind of opposite figure who seems real plucky and fun and not conniving,

Starting point is 00:26:54 but secretly he is. I wonder if there's a deeper reveal with him because this whole thing has left me wondering if they chose to split this in half going into the season or if this was like a decision made arbitrarily, by Netflix later. As it stands here, part of me imagines, well, we get the game

Starting point is 00:27:14 with him and we just need him to be revealed. I wonder if there's something deeper. Who's to say? But I like Steve Bishemi a lot in roles like this, and I think he's really fun on shows like Miracle Workers, which are more episodic and allow him to be kind of wild and fun. And I think this is a nice tempered middle ground where I'm like, perfect.

Starting point is 00:27:30 Steve Bishamie, you're a guy who belongs in a Tim Burton-ified universe, but also, yeah, like playing a presence who brings even if it's disingenuous and much needed sort of burst of brightness often to the screen and yeah, I've enjoyed watching him

Starting point is 00:27:46 and even the weird effect on Christopher Lloyd at first kind of jarred me but I thought that was like a neat little detail and a nice nod to the original movie too just on the staff like the whole school side the ensemble they've introduced from the school I very much enjoy watching Steve Bishamie

Starting point is 00:28:03 I very much enjoy watching Billy Piper and enjoy watching whoever's name I'm gonna try to keep us focused to air what did you think about Steve Bouchame I thought Steve Bouchemy was fun I always enjoy him when he's on screen I think that he's a great actor

Starting point is 00:28:20 I like his power like his his nefariousness and trying to manipulate people that are typically you know wants to do the manipulating or at least have the ability to and yeah I think that

Starting point is 00:28:34 he's an interesting character but I feel like he's He's not given enough time, especially in the latter two episodes, to really, you know, build into whatever his plot is. And I'd like to see him, I don't know, be more relevant because I feel like that's a, you know, we want to utilize this actor and his, his abilities. Could have made a whole episode out of the camp thing and really. Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, overall, he's cool. I'd like to see whatever plotline his plans are come to fruition or see, you know, that more directly involved. But, no, overall, he's cool.

Starting point is 00:29:04 I mean well season one has a very clear setup of like you have this one thing we're trying to figure out what it is and then here it's like oh we got like 14 things we're trying to figure out who is what what is what and who is where and why and so that's it's like we don't have a century even though you don't know who the villain is in season one you have an idea that you're looking out for one villain to unpack whereas like but that's the fun of what i thought with stebe busham he's kind of an inverse of um what's that actresses his name uh gwendoline christie gwendoline christie yeah because gwendlandland christie her you you And you see Gwendolyn Christie, she comes across like she might be malevolent, but really she's not. And that's kind of the inverse with him. He comes across like a little bit affable and benevolent. But then, you know, behind closed doors, he is very manipulative and deceitful and conniving and clearly working or answering to someone higher or whatever. But I love the energy that he brings. And especially for like a guy who has such a distinct look to be draped and all that kind of hair and makeup, somehow look natural in it. you know i'm just seeing him like a lot of adam samler movies where it doesn't look natural and i thought

Starting point is 00:30:09 it looked uh very very natural i think a a character mystery that i'm very compelled by not just because i i am i mean i'm sure there's a um a what's the word for i don't know a favorite favorism to the fact that it's billy piper but even if i didn't know billy piper i'd like to think that i would be really drawn to whoever and whatever this person really actually is because yeah there's something super interesting that she's doing where you're like i don't i don't think you're like one of those professors at hoggwar so i should i be suspicious of you or are you just like weird you know and do you mean well are you supposed to be like a red herring where we're supposed to think you're something more but you're really not you know i really like what billy piper's doing i mean we're we're we all

Starting point is 00:30:54 like billy piper i mean how'd you feeling with her yeah i was it's a joy to watch her and She embodies the role incredibly well And I'm curious, yeah I just want more, like in a good way You'll even want more And I love that she's a musically inclined character Great American accent Yeah, what about you, man?

Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah, no, I, you know, I've liked her for a long time My introduction to her was Doctor Who And yeah, it's interesting seeing her play a character With an American accent, I had no idea She's gonna be in the show like yourself And I I just want to see more of her I don't know, this show is, has a,

Starting point is 00:31:29 a lot of fun little bits in it, but I feel like in its unfocusedness, it doesn't allow us to really dive into some of these other side characters, and I just want to know what she's about, because I'm like, you don't cast Billy Piper to just be a musical teacher, so she has to have some sort of major relevance to the plot, and I'm just excited to see whatever that is.

Starting point is 00:31:47 Well, I mean, we're only four episodes in out of an eight episode season, so, you know, there's going to be... There's, like, part two's coming out in, like, a couple of weeks, so I'm not like... It's not like Squid Game, You know, I've got to wait a year for this shit You know, like, it's a reasonable time To wait for a part two, I suppose

Starting point is 00:32:02 So I'm like, yeah, this is where I'm stopping part four And then we'll pick up episode five later on But there's another new character with Tandy Newton That was a pleasant surprise for her to come into the fold here I kind of wish it didn't kill her off honestly Because I like the idea of like the doctor Who loves like a bit of a Hugo Strange Who likes to experiment on the outcasts and stuff

Starting point is 00:32:24 And you wonder what her real intentions are And I felt like you really could have played around and kept that character around a lot longer. And I was more like bummed when she died. I was like, oh, man, I really thought there was like a lot to contribute that we could have done more. I didn't feel like her time was done yet.

Starting point is 00:32:40 So I was bummed. And Nathanian is such a great underrated actress that it really did bum me out when she died. And I love everything they were sitting up for her because you're like, is she bad? Is she good? I don't really know. And then they killed her off.

Starting point is 00:32:51 And I'm like, oh, shit. Well, I got my answer. But damn, you know. I mean, how did you feel about her? Same. I think her, and to her presence, you know, she's appeared in so many things. When you see her, you're kind of, have a number of things to maybe expect. And she brought a presence that, yeah, like, seems like it could be hiding something sinister, but also was very poised and very sort of clear-eyed amid all these other sort of wackier characters. And she was just another presence on screen that really drew me in. And, yeah, I loved watching. So I am bummed because it did seem, yeah, like a rich vein that we now, unless. some supernatural stuff happens we won't get to explore and another great talent we won't get to watch further but i'm glad she was here yeah you know are you fan attending you you know for much yeah yeah she's uh she was in i think the second mission impossible right that's all she's done

Starting point is 00:33:41 it's all she's done that's one yeah i know i watched her uh when i was watching westworld i know she's prominent yeah and that one uh but yeah i think she's a fun actress and she's she's really great and pretty but diverse i wish i would have utilized her more and I feel like you know you cast somebody like her put her in a medical facility because you know you this is a mystery show so like okay you don't cast someone like that for no reason then you know she did have some someone's irrelevant in the plot but yeah I do feel your sentiment of being disappointed of her not being utilized more yeah and maybe part of that suspicion of oh she we feel like she should be more relevant is because we know this actress and like you

Starting point is 00:34:26 You know, the fact that she has a prominent career. So, yeah, I don't know. I wonder, like, I wonder now knowing if I knew then what I know now, if her inclusion plays as well, knowing that she's going to die. Or if it just feels like, oh, okay, she's just another cog in the machine of whatever the, this plot unfolds. And he knows maybe in death, you know, she knew some information that's going to become relevant in the second half.

Starting point is 00:34:53 So, yeah. yeah that's that's that's that's how i feel better i mean a big character here is slurpy you should do a shirt slurpy with a slurpy what did you how did you feel this i mean i i have a lot of thoughts on slurpy what do you think about slurpy um you know that i like the introduction of his story with the the stop motion and those very timburden thing to do so cool they do yeah yeah it was very fun and i'm curious to know where they go with it you know it's it seems like they introduced him via Pugsley and then he broke out and ate the dude's brain and you know I guess somehow rechained himself and they had were none the wiser and then brought him

Starting point is 00:35:37 on vacation and yeah I just want to see where they go with him it seems like a fun concept and a fun design to have a zombie in a show I I don't know I wish I utilized him a bit more and it seems like something interesting is about to come out of uh him in the second half because like hello old friend so maybe he's going to be the big bad of the second half of the season it's kind of what i'm feeling yeah it's kind of what i mean they set him up in the first episode with a very distinguished backstory right and uh i would i would expect that that's why they were like killing off people and shit uh to to get some of that out of the way but yeah man how'd you feel with slurpy i mean it's kind of a really traditional reanimator thing where they bring back and

Starting point is 00:36:18 then the more you consume the more you become more human again um yeah what would you think I think it's really a fun motif. I really like the components of it in isolation. I think the way they introduce them in the first episode makes it feel like, oh, my God, this is going to be a huge overarching part of the show and this vibe that comes with the animated sequence is going to be very permeating.

Starting point is 00:36:37 It's not, but it does give away, or so far, anyway, it's not. But it does give way to a thing that I think is really fun in isolation, which is Pugsley and Eugene. In Eugene, they feel like they're in a comic strip, too. And I also like that Slurp is like this sort of chaotic detail that seems kind of fun and innocuous is not quite in the background and then also collides with the main plot

Starting point is 00:37:03 sometimes to further the chaos. I think in a more focused storm of chaos that would sing a little louder. In this current iteration it feels maybe a bit random or just like a thing to do at times. But in isolation, I think it's really charming. I feel like it's going to amount to something. I think what bothers me about the plot

Starting point is 00:37:21 Because I love the makeup on it The makeup is awesome The blend of CGI is great Whenever he's on screen It's very enjoyable It's captivating Like don't get me wrong Whenever he's on screen

Starting point is 00:37:32 I'm into it The part that kind of Disappoints me with the plot line Is how Wednesday doesn't seem At all interested in it And that's part That's kind of like the bigger problem With a lot of what I think

Starting point is 00:37:44 Has been happening with season two Is there's a lot of plot lines That seem like They're not either going to be Of interest to Wednesday or they'd have nothing to do with Wednesday and so hence that loses a momentum and propulsion and tension

Starting point is 00:37:55 when that is your main character where you need to have a lot of that circling it around. They'd bother to bring him to school. I think he and Wednesday should have some kind of rapport. Yeah. Especially when Pugley has it in the coffin and Wednesday's just kind of like dismissive about the whole thing and then even when it's in the same room

Starting point is 00:38:11 with Fester, you know, that was a little bit. I just find it odd that Eugene hasn't said anything to Wednesday when they're supposed to be the ones that are really good friends. Yeah. I mean, they had that whole thing where Eugene was, like, dismissive. And I was like, I don't know why Eugene's being such a dick to Pugsley, but whatever, I'll roll with it. And, you know, like, it seems like you can feel the writers in them a little bit on stuff.

Starting point is 00:38:30 Like, well, we need to do something with them here. We need to do something with them here. Let's put Pugsley here. Let's put Eugene here. But it doesn't really have, like, emotional heft a lot of the time. Wednesday and Pugsley get into trouble together. Like, they do enjoy just in the canon of the characters, like, doing messed up stuff together. And you would think that Wednesday forgets that Pugsley's at the same.

Starting point is 00:38:49 same school yeah you know or that pugsley forgets he's at the same school or wednesday's you know so yeah a lot of that is kind of like i'm like if you're going to put pugsley in there do something where it's like oh well let's fucking utilize this then but she's still so an isolation and so independent and she spent so much time in the first season looking after eugene her surrogate brother but seems to have no interest in being around pugsley her actual brother uh so yeah there's again there's like some distractions stuff but there were some returning characters that i thought um uh hunter would just be a cammy I actually don't mind the trope of him coming back

Starting point is 00:39:24 and then hulking out and being out on the loose. I don't want it to be like repetitive from season one. Sure. But now that it's out in the open, everyone knows who it is, who he is. I'm bummed the dad died so early. Honestly, that was a real bummer to me. I'm bummed they didn't care that his dad died.

Starting point is 00:39:40 Unless you told him and he was like, all right. Yeah, he's just become full-blown bad guy. And I think there's like the nuance of him has just completely gone out. out the window but i think they're trying to do that to like you know i don't know make him more scary or some shit or show how the monster in him is it supposed to be hide a play on jekyll and hide and there's no jekyll anymore it's just hide even when he's jekyll he's just hide now yeah and that's the part that's missing but he looks like he's having fun he looks like got

Starting point is 00:40:10 ripped for it you know um but no i thought those moments were actually kind of intense and scary when uh he's like killing christina ritchie and shit oh christina ritchie coming back yeah how did you What was that like for you? It's very fun to watch. You know, I'll always accept that. Oh, return with, you know, she's got the chopped up hair and everything. And it's fun to watch her, you know, go even more unhinged here. Bummed she's dead, you know.

Starting point is 00:40:33 But I'm glad that she's out here and after yellow jackets and everything. It's just cool that she's still prominent. And, you know, this is a nice... In a season, it seemed like, it's poised to continue bringing more things in from the movies that Tim Burton did not direct. You know, it's nice to still have her. I hope that they find some wacky way to not have her be dead. Yeah, as I love the show where they pass each other in the hallway, but then she just dies and I was like,

Starting point is 00:40:56 oh, man. Yeah, I was disappointed that they killed her because obviously, you know, twist of the last season that she was actually a bad guy and she was his master. So it kind of goes back to the thing of like, okay, now that we know who these people are, not to catch out of the bag, who are they on the other side of this? Let's actually explore that.

Starting point is 00:41:14 But we have her in this one episode or no, at the end of the last episode, than prominently in this episode. And yeah, it's kind of a waste. She's a great actress. Obviously, you guys have seen more stuff with her. I know she's very prominent in the 90s. But my main exposure to her is Yellow Jackie.

Starting point is 00:41:28 She's fantastic in that show. I heard it's an amazing, amazing show. Yeah, so we've covered all that. I mean, you know, asylum breakout is, you know, pretty generic. But I thought the, the whole thing that was kind of bothering me when the timer got to three was like, I'm just really not into the mystery. I'm not that intrigued by it like yeah I don't know what the answer is I don't know what to figure out here

Starting point is 00:41:52 but just because I don't know the answer and I can't predict it doesn't mean it's it's particularly interesting and that it finally became really interesting when Fester gave me to the picture like man Fred Armisen I like Fred Armisen here even more than I did in season one like I thought he was really enjoyable in season one but I loved him here in this episode his episode here was awesome

Starting point is 00:42:16 And every time he was there, it was cool and to see him in his element and the psych ward and then even befriending the guards and unpacking the mystery, hooking up with one of the people there. I thought that was really fun and going to the underground where all the other people

Starting point is 00:42:32 are like all that mystery where you think all these people are probably dead and to find out they're just being caged there. It's like they are doing like some cool. I feel like they have some mandate with Netflix now where they're trying to build out some universe. I think they're i think they're doing some type of universe building out thing that it's not just

Starting point is 00:42:51 going to be only the wednesday show now i think they're doing some shit where we're gonna get like never more expansion universe or some whatever um and then once a series of 11 minute episodes all about thing yeah and uh thing as a character uh i think even they're developed like the way how people disregard him and use him as a servant and the way how they provide i think that's one of the best things the show wednesday has done is make a hand a trust true character and they've even involved that in this season more where he's like like depressed that no one's saying happy birthday than him and becoming a drum and you know people are realizing they kind of just take advantage of him like all those qualities i think are so strong but the fourth

Starting point is 00:43:33 episode had the um the atmosphere it had the pacing it had the imagery it had everything that i loved about season one and then more so like i'm like oh i'm feeling the horror i'm feeling the suspense. I want to unpack the whole mystery behind it all. And my last thing is, I think the use of, even in two and three, when they do that thing where, like, the music is going, where someone's playing music or they're playing a song and they're cutting around to different characters, I think every time they're doing that, it's so, so well orchestrated. The last mystery. The last thing. The thing with the birds. Was it worthy to you? um

Starting point is 00:44:15 it was all right oh i was like oh okay because i was like yeah and i thought it was going to be the sister i guess it didn't really make sense but i thought it would have been fun also that seems like it was to clarify i don't think aaron is saying that he finds it disappointing because it's not the sister i think you just

Starting point is 00:44:36 the execution of it is just not that excited yeah execution yeah i was like oh okay because i don't know maybe if it was somebody that was more relevant to the plot would have been cool but like oh it's just a side character that we've seen here and there so yeah it just didn't really it didn't really do anything for me and then now she's dead so this is this is a season full of excellent ingredients and like kind of a wildly variant payoff because like heather matter azzo is a great actor for the role that they chose her into hide in plain sight as someone who seems meek and you know kindly and then who turns out to

Starting point is 00:45:08 be a little unhinged and she's been in tons of stuff where she's able to like really sink into i feel like those flavors and here I was like cool great excellent all the ingredients are there and as it stands there's way too much else going on for us like I feel like if we had like been spending more time like actually checking in with her and dealing with her than just a couple of scenes then it would have like really hit like oh damn she was right there this whole time because then you I feel like in this season you are kind of left with the math of like okay I know these prominent actors have been cast for these certain roles so they have to amount to something more than they are

Starting point is 00:45:43 and she's perfectly poised to like kind of blend in there and that kind of still works but at the same time yeah I'm like with a better fleshing of that I would have been like sick you know because such a cool thing for her to get to do yeah I'm surprised by how much it seemed like instead of doing like the problem with these part one

Starting point is 00:45:58 and part two's of these shows especially with Netflix is like oftentimes it feels like oh this is such a part one and they just kind of ended and I think they were trying to avoid that problem and try to make see part one

Starting point is 00:46:12 actually feel like a season but then you truncate a lot and you and then like a lot of these reveals and deaths and resolves I'm like there's something kind of cool to the fact that a lot of them happen and so far I'm not saying like completely

Starting point is 00:46:26 negate all of them or or like push them to later like keep a good amount of them and then there other stuff like with that reveal there like it seems like it's we took care of an awful lot and now we've set up

Starting point is 00:46:40 new people for a part you know you brought it up and I was sitting here going okay wait wait wait wait wait sort through all the different what happened there

Starting point is 00:46:48 okay yes yes that's right you know and I feel like yeah there's so many things happening that it's a bit of a mess but I'll wait to judge this whole season off of when we finish the season similar to how I felt with squid game yeah you gotta have to wait

Starting point is 00:47:04 and so far right now I'm like this doesn't feel like I feel like undoubt I've already sold myself that, like, season one is going to be better for sure than season two. It's just more of the fluidity when you're comparing the first four episodes to these four. But that I know me well enough to know that my opinion can totally change, depending on how strong episodes five through eight are. I think we're all on the same page about that. Yeah, I don't say so.

Starting point is 00:47:32 All right. I'm still excited to see him. Sweet sauce, people. All right. I'm pretty sure we covered everything we needed to cover. Yeah, all right. Well done, gang. I can't think of any other stragglers right now.

Starting point is 00:47:45 Awesome. Awesome sauce. Well, guys, we leave it to you. What did you think about Wednesday season two part one? Did you find it satisfying? What are you finding disappointing? Do you think it's going to be better than season one? What do you like more of?

Starting point is 00:47:57 What are your hopes for the next part? Leave your thoughts in the comments below. Appreciate you guys being here with us. Thanks again to Prepper. Once again, for A&Down these highlights. We'll talk with you soon. Reject Nation. Keep a lookout for the Wednesday season two, part two upload on this guy's B day.

Starting point is 00:48:13 Peace.

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