The Reel Rejects - WEDNESDAY SEASON 2 Episodes 5 -8 REVIEW!!!

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:15 the money app that makes it simple and cheap to make small yet significant investments. I think that's all the housekeeping. Let's do this thing. Let's finish the show. Now, before we get to our Royal Rejects questions, I think it's important that we acknowledge how we feel right now first. And it's going to be a long night. So let's just keep it real tight and simple.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah, boys. Aaron, tell us why you hated it. Bring the mood down. No, no. Well, no, no, I'm just like it. I liked it. Oh, damn. Yeah, surprise it, right? You are going to put a new down.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Let's go. Oh, you only liked it? Oh, so we're like way over the moon about it than you are. Yeah, I would say so. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think you guys probably liked. I thought I was just joking. I honestly thought I was just joking.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I just assumed you felt the same way. No, no. It's funny because we watch a lot of stuff here and obviously of different variety. and genres and being in the state of watching a lot of series here is we're not here to compare we're just watch the show for for what it is uh yeah i think i really digged the continuation of the show i think coming out of it there's definitely some cool things that happen in the latter half of the season i still think the the freaky friday inspired one was my favorite of the season i feel like that one had the most heart and like really allowed in it and and it when
Starting point is 00:03:55 say to connect and that was like one of the stronger parts of the show in season one so to get that back again uh gave me a lot of hope and was really really nice to see because i really enjoyed their dynamic the way those two characters interact for sure i did really enjoy the the new character the her her fan as i think you were probably the the most verbally hyped about her but i think i really enjoyed her as well but yeah i don't know what it was i think that there was still a lot of moving parts here for me i think the way that came together was nice but i feel like i don't i don't know it just didn't touch me in the way that i would hope it to have i think the only part that really like jolted me like oh my god that's crazy was the fact that it was the twist of you know thing being
Starting point is 00:04:40 an isac knight's hand and yeah you know and there is like a i don't know there's like a line you can call it depending on the level of writing like oh that's convenient or oh that's you know that's like synergistic or like oh like this is prophecy the fact that things are repeating themselves the fact that oh the Gomez Adams was friends with with Isaac when he was a youth and then the Pugsley was slurge his friend and then he turned on him just like he turned on his dad and you know that you know that your mileage for that could really vary but yeah I think this falls on the side of it being cool um but yeah it didn't it didn't blow me me away but i did enjoy it you know i think this show was a fun ride i like the mythology i like the
Starting point is 00:05:28 world and yeah about the time the show's over i'm curious to see where it goes in season three i love fester and i'm curious to know where the the stuff goes with the hides and yeah i'm happy they didn't kill tyler i wish he would have kind of lived up to what they teased at the midpoint of the season of him being more integral and being a big bad but hey maybe that's going to be season three maybe he's going to have a change of heart by the end of the show but yeah that's that's kind of how i felt i'm like thumbs up i liked it i didn't love it but i liked it all right well dude i appreciate your honesty
Starting point is 00:06:02 seriously sure i've gone to him first shit I really edit this review tank it down shit on me come on comments no no no no i appreciate your honesty and I honestly kind of suspected that I would be feeling more like when the way this started
Starting point is 00:06:26 2 by the 5 5 we did 2 by 5 I was like oh shit I was I did not like 2 by 5 that much but yeah the last 3 I really did enjoy John yeah John quick thoughts 10 out 10 perfect television that's what I'm talking about baby that's the best thing I've ever seen that's what I want to hear I'm going to the Tudum store tonight. I'm going to be streaming this nonstop. So I can just get as many hours on that counter as possible in the pipe. Yeah, I need more.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah, I expected to feel kind of like your feeling. And this may be curious to know. It's weird. I like that they experiment with their release structures. I think pronouncing a gap in the middle of this maybe worked a little against it. I'm not sure. I don't think it complimented it at all.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Because the thing is, yeah. It just felt like, oh, it was just the next episode. This started in a place that felt akin to, you know, the four episodes that preceded it. And I remember us being on a relatively similar page of the first four episodes of finding a lot of fun stuff, but not loving the sort of overall soup and the sort of million things that are happening and the lack of what felt like a direction or the, you know, mystery motif not hitting as hard. But these four episodes, like increasingly drew me in. they got more fun as they went along for me i cared more about everything as they went and then by the end i was
Starting point is 00:07:55 like i'm having a blast you know yeah and so uh yeah now this wasn't necessarily like a perfect run but i do think that this got stronger each time and the stuff in the first you know in episode five or six that i was sitting there going like there was a moment at which i was like i am getting less interested the more sort of this is barking in on itself i'm like okay so everything's an Adams thing or a Tyler thing or some, but then like the more, it's weird, I actually kind of feel opposite in that like, once they threw
Starting point is 00:08:23 Tyler into like, oh, well, here's your mom. And this other guy, he's her brother and they've got a whole thing. And he becomes like a pawn in a greater thing. And I actually kind of got more eye line for him during that rather than being like, okay, he's going to be the big bad again, I guess. Like, I don't
Starting point is 00:08:39 know. It felt more interesting. The more they twisted that for me. Yeah. And yeah, just a lot of nice colorful performances from the supporting cast and you know enough cool surprises and you know flourishes of the macab and the supernatural that this yeah ultimately stuck a landing I didn't expect it to stick quite as strongly for me yeah
Starting point is 00:09:00 how about you how are you feeling uh I feel good uh real good I I loved it um there's two by five that was like oh god damn this why they didn't give screeners because it's not great and I don't we I have no clue what the general public thinks like I haven't looked on Twitter or X formerly known as Twitter I haven't looked anywhere I haven't looked at rotten tomatoes I check the blue sky for it honestly I have no idea what anyone thinks about this but I'll tell you like yeah that the what happened in an episode what happened in the freaky Friday episode body swap episode I suddenly found myself like the things i i thought the show made me not care about anymore you know um bianca yeah and uh enid like so many things that i thought like i'm just not interested in them anymore that episode started bringing me around to them and and then i felt the enid and wednesday connection again
Starting point is 00:10:05 and that was such an integral part and then choices they were making i was like i don't know about this i kind of like slurp when he's like a zombie uh this it's not like he's an actual like hot scientist guy but then they managed to make that work and compelling for me and then like going to the gala episode too when they when they take down Steve Bouchemey
Starting point is 00:10:26 the one disappointment I really do have is that they cast Casper Van Dean they build up Casper Van Dean he's got like less than 10 minutes of screen time and you know like that's the kind of casting where I felt like this could have been like a role that revitalizes
Starting point is 00:10:42 him or gives him some type of Are you familiar with his work at all? No. Ironically, he's in Sleepy Hollow. Tim Burton, yeah, I forgot about that. I watched that one. Rombone. Starship Troopers.
Starting point is 00:10:53 That was like his main big thing he was in. He was the main guy in Starship Troopers. And he was... I don't know if I've seen that either. Yeah, yeah, it's a good movie. This guy directed in this channel with John. And yeah, so that was like the one part. And while I do think this season overall is definitely more clunky.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And it took a while to get there. Because I remember, like, I liked some. episode two four i thought was great and then when they went to five i was like what the hell man i thought like 43 these guys have been captured you like what's what's what's going on here and i felt like the cop stuff never really amounted to much they were just like just there just there um where i think they kind of dropped the ball there on being impactful um the lady gaga build up was cool i like the dance everything they did with agnes coming around yeah there's so much i loved the bad. Honestly, like, I love these last two episodes as well. And, you know, I think
Starting point is 00:11:48 just skimming these questions, I feel like everything we'd want to talk about is going to go through these questions. So I want to make sure we honor that. We should have just started with this one. Jay Rushin, like, what you're feeling on the season. I mean, we just summed it up. Sorry, we summed it up. We took away all the answers from you there. I want to see it again in a more graceful like eight episode of fashion and see if there's more to appreciate sure as a whole yeah but this certainly ended stronger than I
Starting point is 00:12:20 think it started okay cool but you know you got more questions that are jay rushed and so don't whatever you're still gonna honor you my friend oh yeah I guess we'll hopping around here let's go something a little fun Valerie Fisher
Starting point is 00:12:35 she's asking what did you think at the final episode what would you like to see happen if there is a season three I mean, I'll go to you first on this, Aaron, you know, with the one who's more on the mid-tier here, what would kind of elevate this for you in season, if they, if they explore season three. Some that's definitely a little bit more focused for sure, because we had all these moving pieces and elements, and I liked them well enough, but I was wondering what they would amount to. And for a show called Wednesday, we had a lot of things that were happening that were unrelated to Wednesday until it was time for Wednesday to come into the thing at the last minute. the whole storyline with Bianca. And I was like, okay, Wednesday just kind of came into that.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And then it's just resolved. But anyway, to answer your actual question. Yeah, Tara to Andrew, reacting to strange your things at the other roof. There's always been having a great time. He's freaking out. It's exciting. But yeah, I would like to see it be a little bit more focus. I'd like to see the development for the development of Enid and Wednesday's relationship.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I really would like to see Wednesday and Ophelia. is connection and let's you know we it feels like we've just had a lot of ground cover between the tension between morticia and Wednesday's relationships let's let's have them maybe it'll be a little bit more on the same page let's kind of have them further connect and build up Wednesday's psychic abilities some more and yeah I don't I don't know I feel like
Starting point is 00:14:03 maybe never more is the the construct in which we have all these characters come together but if we can have find a way to break that structure to kind of re-energize the show and maybe have them connect outside of the constructs of Nevermore. I think that would also be interesting. But yeah, I think that there's a lot of potential. If it's, you know, we cut down the storylines, focus on the characters and create an intriguing mystery
Starting point is 00:14:31 and about the relationships. I think that would do the show a lot of good. Johnny? You know, I'm torn because on the one hand, I love Fester and I'm like, do a season where it's like the two of them and thing, like my three favorite character, three of my favorite game. I don't think I want that. I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:48 if I want that either. You don't want the fester spin-off? No, I think fester works better in doses. I was going to say, as much as I do like love having him around, there is kind of something special about the fact that it's like every once a season, you get a Fester episode and it's a special event, and I kind of think
Starting point is 00:15:03 that's nice. Although I think it might be a little awkward if you know, we cut back to next season. They're like, and we did all that off-screen over the summer. And we're back first school. You would have to find more of the humanity investor. Yeah, you would have to do something because, yeah, as he stands, he is a character who really works well in doses. Honestly, the episode that was mainly him at the asylum, I was surprised how well that worked.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, yeah. And I think that they do have latitude to work in that place. It's tricky because this show has teetered on moments where I'm like, maybe too much fleshing out of or trying. to, I don't know, humanize the Adams'es, but they so far haven't, they haven't, like, crossed the line yet in a way where I'm like, that just doesn't feel right. So I don't know, like, I feel like the hook of her trying to save Enid from being wolfed out forever is interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I think the idea that Billy Piper could be some sort of chaotic middle figure, like maybe not a good or bad character, but sort of a more dubious nature character would be interesting. I guess my hope for next season might be that we get a little bit stronger of that murder mystery element
Starting point is 00:16:22 specifically, because we did tease that at the beginning of this, and she's writing the murder mystery book, and as we touched on this season, like the narration doesn't feel as engaged with like the book motif, which I thought was really nice. So it's more just like stuff I would love to see them like tighten up or bring back. I don't even mind them
Starting point is 00:16:39 trying to do a lot, because I think they managed pull a lot together by the end of this but I don't know season three I guess I would just want something that's a little more devilish I guess a little more gleeful I think so I think season two was a little bit bogged down by them
Starting point is 00:16:55 knowing they're probably going to get spin-offs and it seemed like they were they want to build a world out now so they can really make a property out of this whereas season one ended on the slightest of cliffhangers that they fucking resolve in like an episode but it ended
Starting point is 00:17:11 on this like smallest of cliff hangers and it didn't seem like it was this big mapped out plan that they have and and even with the way this ends this ends in a way of like we already know where we want to go with season three and I'm sure there's room for change and
Starting point is 00:17:27 they want to do like universe building but I think like getting a little bit more focused on actual characters right away and less on building And honestly, like, I like the, I don't mind the exposition in the show, but I do think, if we move on to our next question. Hey.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Villain Sewell says, how do you feel about the overall writing and storylines compared to season ones? Well, Villain Sele. The writing with this one, I noticed with their exposition, the only thing that annoyed me about it is that it was almost like every next scene. Yeah. They just recapped everything. Yeah. It was like a consistency. I'm like, we don't need to blurt everything out now.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I thought we were only doing that in the fifth episode because there was a break and you guys like wrote that, wrote it that way. But no, I do think that I cared more about like everyone, even the side characters, Ajax and all them more than I did here. And it seemed, and I think what they had going for the world of season one with the Nevermore specifically, they kind of lost some of that vibe in this season because I think they wanted to integrate more Adams family stuff and I definitely saw in the comments of the last video I didn't really like peruse them too much but if I recall correctly
Starting point is 00:18:48 people were actually like I really like Gomez and Mortisha here which totally get and I liked them more in the last half than I did in the first half and I did start to like feel more compelled by that
Starting point is 00:19:05 but if we're going to compare it to season one season one is like tight focused and they felt like they had their one shot at this and not perfect but they fucking nailed it you know where here I think the overall writing and storylines is abundant and bigger perhaps that it's so you know good perhaps but I think they at the end of the day I think they ended up saving it like I I didn't get emotional during any of season one and i got kind of emotional during like you know when wednesday is is uh you know talking with enid in a body swap episode even with thing like finding his own agency and they get into the support group these like implementations i think there's there are some world building stuff they introduced that i think is kind of cool and i would like them to lean more into in a confident way but that's why i feel like sometimes it felt like a little unconfident and you know we've got to jam some of this in right now and you can kind of get that vibe when they're doing iron man two and not iron man one you know um but yeah i mean overall story writing and storylines i mean i feel like you really express that i feel like john really expressed that i mean the main thing for me is that the right i like if this was very scattershot i think it is fun to try and do a lot with something like this and just do things that don't seem like they're going to be important and then pay them off later or whatever I think the main thing that this season teetered on for me in the writing was there were times where they,
Starting point is 00:20:38 and we touched this before, like, we got a little bit more of the devil or side of Wednesday late in, like, seven and eight, and the body swap took care of a lot of just the personality splashes of color and stuff, but I do feel like there are times where they're writing here borders on grading for Wednesday. And I think in the second half, it was a lot better for me than the first half, but I do think it's, it's, I can sometimes, feel them writing a pattern rather than writing the character and I never really had that problem season one I guess I didn't really feel and maybe you'll agree
Starting point is 00:21:10 with those on this or me Aaron is that that moment at the end when what is spirit lady's name spirit lady oh weems we've got to have yeah when weems is saying like the the what you guys have forged
Starting point is 00:21:26 and like your reparation of your relationship I'm like I don't Are you really feel that? It's tricky, because you can't have them do too much emotional anything. Yeah, exactly. Or at least you can't have Wednesday do too much of them. Like, I felt it's so much more for Edith in Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. But for them, like, I didn't really get that vibe. Even when they're doing, like, seance room together, she's so, like, apprehensive and resistant to her mom still. And then when they get to that moment, I'm like, yeah, there's some resolve, but I wasn't moved by that, you know. yeah i'm thinking back on it yeah nothing particularly moved me like hard in the season um but i think that there are some i don't know there are interesting aspects of it what was the exact question again
Starting point is 00:22:16 how do you feel about the overall writing and storylines compared to the one okay i feel like it was just a little messier not even messier just more crowded like even like i'm thinking back in the storyline with bianca and then stevie shemmy's character and i'm wondering like ultimately what was the purpose of it or I guess like to give never more more funding next season and that's how they you know make it bigger, bad or better yeah but yeah I feel even relationship
Starting point is 00:22:41 with Bianca's mom she didn't really feel like much of a character she was just kind of like a thing that was here to like kind of bait Bianca like give her some semblance of motivation to get fear just leverage yeah more leverage and I think that there's potential for there to have an interesting relationship
Starting point is 00:22:57 there that we didn't really get to explore I didn't really get to explore I didn't really get why if the bug kid was such a dick to Pugley the whole time, they didn't really explore that. And so, yeah, there's just a lot of moving pieces. And I think Pugs, I don't know, Pugsley was in the show a lot, but I was like, okay, what's his deal? I never really felt anything.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like, okay, is he just like, he's just a nice guy with, like, powers? Is that his whole thing? Like, I don't know. Like, even we're in the third act, and I don't really feel anything. I feel like the writing didn't define his personality. well enough to give the actor something to really represent because like there were times I'm like hey it just kind of seems like a two-dimensional character yeah I didn't really get the sense like yeah I get it he wants a friend sure but I didn't really connect to them on the three-dimensional
Starting point is 00:23:44 side nor them on the sibling side yeah with that but I would agree on like sometimes you know when you look back at season one if you do directly compare it there was a whole thing with like Gomez murdered someone and they're building up the mystery of what really went down until you get to the big reveal of it all and then here i'm like oh they just kind of introduced in the last couple episodes you know it was an isaac and then oh yeah something happened in the past that they're just jamming in here all the sudden and they didn't feel like it was like laced or built up throughout the season in some way yeah i also feel like you know for most of the season wednesday's motivation is to save enid and then they changed the prophecy like okay now it's one of the atoms
Starting point is 00:24:21 and then nobody dies so it's like okay what was the point because there's nothing really uh no They copped out of the promise of somebody's going to be in danger, which then eliminates the stakes. I remember in part one where Tisha was trying to explain that not every prophecy is something that will become true. And Wednesday was very, she pushed back against that a lot. Like, no, I saw it, so it must be true. And I think that was part of like, see, sometimes mother's right. Mothers, man. I understand that conceptually.
Starting point is 00:24:51 But I'm like, I feel like if you, I don't know, it diminishes it if nothing comes of the thing that we're fighting for. you're just like okay i guess everything is just fine yeah no i i think succeeded see i think that i think that's the thing is like there are aspects that i would find myself going like yeah this could have been better yeah this could have been stronger but i was swelled by like you know the the misunderstood monster element that plays on a very classic universal monster thing to me beyond the aesthetic because so much when you think of like the the scientist guy everyone goes to victor frankenstein if you watch those movies so many of them are about like a science guy like the main character is a scientist and uh like some mad guy who would like some science app uh um you know ambition and so yeah to do to do all that and then uh yeah all the all this stuff that had the heart and the emotion i i would feel for that and it sounds like you were unable to really connect with some of those because these other things were bogging it down or you needed more from i'm not going to assume why you didn't feel something or why you did um but for me
Starting point is 00:25:58 me like i would connect with stuff that was outweighing shortcomings you know even when it was like this kind of came out of nowhere or they don't feel like they really built up this cult thing i didn't really see how this cult thing was affecting stuff too much you know um and yeah the and that's why i feel you see like when i talk about the season break when when stranger things did that and you watch it it made sense it feels like this is a different chapter of this story yeah um when when um squid game divided it do you do you watch squid game i've seen the first season i haven't okay well season two and three we're just divided uh and so apparently they shot them just just be one big season but even with that when you watch season three
Starting point is 00:26:44 at least for us i was like this makes sense why they divided yeah there's a strong chat like there's a strong chapter break where you can take a break and and it feels like one thing is completed in our arc there's still clearly more to go but like this feels like like two symmetrical half. Yeah, yeah. This feels like it actually doesn't benefit to not have them just
Starting point is 00:27:06 be all watched at once. It feels like they found the type of event you would create that chapter break at, but the overarching story feels like it doesn't benefit. Yeah, like the part two should feel like Breaking Bad did that with season five. Yeah. Like the part two of that should feel like another
Starting point is 00:27:22 starting point in some way. Yeah. And this didn't, like you have the science lady revealed that she's orchestrated, and the architect of all this shit and then she just gets killed off. That even didn't really have an impact
Starting point is 00:27:35 and she's in the trunk and you're like oh shit that's right she's dead I guess just a stray thought the more we talk about it the more I'm like yeah there's some shortcomings for sure if it was me though I would just make Pugsley just like a comic strip just like cut to him doing unrelated
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Starting point is 00:32:10 all, but I love Lady Gaga's new song. That was my first time hearing it. Did you hear it earlier today? No, I just saw it and I was like, I figured this is going to be in the show. Okay. I don't think I ever Learned Lady Gaga was in the show I did I saw it on Variety
Starting point is 00:32:24 Like I guess like a month or two ago So when I asked John after filming I was like did you hear who's gonna be in the show I don't want to tell you It's like no oh okay did you know Did you ever should learn that? I'm not sure if I learned that If I did I forgot
Starting point is 00:32:35 In hindsight it sounds like a familiar thing From like way way back Like last year sometime hearing like Oh yeah I didn't have it I didn't have it in mind To even think about until after the fact Yeah I thought I mean, I personally loved her being in the show.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I think she, the kind of actress she is, like, fits in the world. And I think she's often a very overlooked actress as well. I think she's amazing. So, yeah, I thought she fit nicely. And her song and the dance moment was incredible. One of the standards of the last three episodes. And to infuse it with the Lady Gaga song, which also remind you, like, yeah, Lady Gaga's still fucking the lips. Shouts out to her Joanne record.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, no, she's great. she's uh she it's weird like i had the inverse of lady gaga where i i got into her as an actress first from american horror story a star is born and then um i got into her music after because of liking her as an actor so yeah i mean what about you how was your feeling with after knowing lady gaga would be in it i mean what did you think of her here i thought she was good i because i knew she was in the show going into it i thought she's going to be more part of the series but i think The role that they gave her was really nice And, you know, I felt like she had an important role in that episode specifically
Starting point is 00:33:52 And, you know, a small part of the story. But, yeah, I really dug her song, and I like her as an actress. She had many great hits in the 2000s. Yeah, I thought she was great. I'm not going to say I'm a diehard Lady Gaga fan, but... You're not a little monster? I'm not a little monster. But, yeah, she's great.
Starting point is 00:34:13 She's cool. I thought this was a good, actually, like, a good kind of role for her. She's not, like, one of the Adams's or some, like, specific, like, character relative, necessarily, but to have her be this otherworldly sort of, you know, Oracle lady is pretty spot on, I think. I would say so. And used in moderation. I'd say so. Rubby continues.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I was taken aback by the sudden body swap twist. Did you find this direction taken by the episode Weird 2? And which one of the main many body swap stories out there is your favorite and why? I would still give it to Freaky Friday, for sure. Face off. Yeah, it's pretty dope, actually. Face Off. I forget that's one of the categories.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, I'll go Face Off, for sure. I've seen Face Off. But I think that it's, yeah, I thought it was great. It was my favorite episode of the season. I think each actress did a really great job of playing the other character that I thought the most impressive stuff, where they were playing the other character trying to act like the character. that they are, but from the characters, from the character that actually are's perspective, I thought that stuff was really great.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And I think both of them did an amazing job at it. Oh, my God, before we expand on that, producer Greg. Also, how much fun was seeing Jenna Ortega playing Enid pertain to be Wednesday, and Emma Myers playing Wednesday to pertain to be Enid. Very fun. So, yeah, how would you think, man? I mean, you know, like, as a fan of craft in general, that's just a really fun prospect. and for, you know, the two of, again, for, I know it doesn't in context of the character exactly create this effect,
Starting point is 00:35:51 but it was nice to watch Jenna Ortega break out of the deadpan for a minute. It was nice to watch the actress who plays Enid, assume the deadpan, and it actually helped to, like, recalibrate some of that devilish charm I was missing from the core characters. And, yeah, I thought it actually equated to kind of like the show, wiggling it out a little bit, loosening up. Yeah. And I really liked it. that's great i agree man uh i loved how they didn't feel like impressions of each other but actual embodiments at like it was cool to see emma meyers really portray wednesday and and and do it like
Starting point is 00:36:28 i feel like hers would be overlooked as oh hers would be easier because of the wednesday ticks but actually i feel like there's more pressure on her yeah because she has to play wednesday yeah whereas general rick it gets to have fun yeah but but that was also like so like so refreshing you know because i i don't really associate genna ortega as an actor who in roles where she looks like she's having fun and it to see her like make it her own and show that that's what i really felt like uh they captured is like both of these actors show they really understand the other characters yeah and that makes sense why their chemistry is so good but the way it like also came around though where um when they are saying like i thought
Starting point is 00:37:13 that was so meta when Wednesday is what were Jenna Ortega as Enid is saying why being Wednesday is creative like this is fucking trippy and uh same thing with Emma Myers and the flipperoo that moment got me really emotional I thought that was like beautiful and so I thought they nailed it and and it was a blast to watch them like it felt very sincere in the way it played on the plot mechanics and also didn't go like cliche route of how a lot of these bodies thought things go. And they managed to do it in like a 45 minute chunk versus needing like an hour and a half movie to Tom.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Well, they left it. Yeah, they left us wanting more in the right way. I'm like, I could watch more episodes like this. Yeah, 100%. I don't think you needed to do that. And good job. Yeah. The only thing with that is I don't feel like they needed the opening moment.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I think that like gives away the surprise where I don't feel like they needed it. I'm like, what do you try? This isn't like fucking television network. Like it's a streaming show. Yeah. Yeah. You don't need it like try to get me interested. watching the rest of this episode.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It only had harder as a surprise for real. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it would have just been fine if it, they just did it in a linear timeline. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Jay Rushden, thank you. He is asking what's your favorite character here? Why don't we go with, quickly,
Starting point is 00:38:34 your favorite character and your favorite new character. Aaron, go. Oh, my favorite character and favorite new character, I would say, the Invisible Chick. She was great. She was great from start to finish. Wednesdays, you know, she's the title characters, I'd say she's my favorite of the entire
Starting point is 00:38:50 show. But I think as far as new characters goes, for sure her... Agnes. Agnes. Her Agnes was the best. And, yeah, I think that actress did a really great job of portraying both the loneliness and pain of that character, but also the excitement
Starting point is 00:39:06 and desire to be accepted and validated. I think she played all of those notes really well. Yep, totally agree. For new character, my heart might say, Agnes, but since you said that, Grandma-ma, that actress
Starting point is 00:39:22 frigging killed it. She's crazy good, yeah. Perfect addition to this, and she's a vet who's been around forever, so flowers to her. Favorite character character? I guess it would either be Thing or Fester, honestly. All right. I do love the both of them. I guess, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:38 it's hard to choose. I guess Thing is around more, so. but uh but i don't know fester's just such a joy yeah yeah uh favorite character here i mean it is so hard not to be cliche with just saying wednesday but it probably is wednesday um yeah it's like wednesday and thing like the two most popular our main characters the wednesday thing and read it but i have i have a go wednesday favorite new character i mean i agree with both the picks there i mean look i i don't know if it's actually Billy Piper's performance or just
Starting point is 00:40:14 the fact that I have a built-in love for Billy Piper from Doctor Who I feel like it's probably considering she's both. Her character doesn't have that much screen dime here but I love like how empathetic she is and like what her
Starting point is 00:40:30 pursuit actually is like it doesn't seem villainous you know it seems like rehabilitation wise and connection wise and I love like implementing that because the whole time like who are you really lady and you find out like she actually has like good intentions well and she seems like
Starting point is 00:40:47 yeah she might be advocating for the fringe of the fringe yeah just like an interesting concept yeah I thought she made the character really compelling and um I would I got a shout out to like the guy who does play Isaac every time I was doubting this character I was like hey he's fucking he's getting me hooked man he's like when he gets and especially the physicality of that final scene with him versus thing was really impressed that is such a hard thing to pull off because you you really have to make it look like you are battling a different character you know and it's such a physical moment but yeah i thought he actually by the end was actually kind of scary uh with his with the power that he does have you know his physical work was great the entire time
Starting point is 00:41:35 and i wonder if he was still he was playing the slur version the zombie version of him in the beginning as well or if they just cast him to play the later more alive like Isaac because if he is playing him the entire time also really impressive let me go here okay i get this i think dk lounge yeah there was a mix up between for the stranger things questions so i understand what happened here why they're separated like this is pld was taking my notes of what happened with the stranger things episodes before but it doesn't really apply for today um so he's asking i noticed that isaac is also wearing gloves, but is also never
Starting point is 00:42:11 shown using his right hand. Could it be he wears gloves because he's hiding a prosthetic right hand and his real hand is actually things since they were hinting things backstory at the support group. Wow. You know, if we had just finished episode six, you would have been spoiling this shit out of it. Did you write
Starting point is 00:42:29 this? Did you write? Have it only seen? Did you finish episode six? I'm like, let me submit my question now. Or did you finish it and we're trying to like totally drop him now? Massive spoiler. Because I never realized he wasn't using his right hand. I never thought on me.
Starting point is 00:42:44 That's why it's brilliant. It's a brilliant twist. Yeah. Because you never see it. You don't even think it. You're never like, why are we seen it, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:54 And I thought like the whole thing with a backstory of the thing. I was kind of rolling my eyes at like, do you really know, I don't like understand this whole backstory and like, what does he come from like a hand family or something? Yeah. That's what I thought they were going to do. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:43:09 island of all hands. Yeah, like, I look at some, like, weird bullshit, I just don't want to see. Well, no, when they said he had a ring, so I was like, okay, so they're probably going to give a backstory for him eventually, but I didn't think that was going to be this season, a character we already saw. I thought we're going to get, like, a whole origin tale about it at some point, like, really unpacking him. I'm like, that to be too much.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Even though I liked his scene in the support group, I thought it would be way too much. But no, when they do that reveal, that was the shit. That was such a surprise, because when he first, like, gets hit and he doesn't react. to getting hurt and like how did he know and you're like that's how we knew i was going to say that that actually is a good segue to the next robbie question well robbie what did you think of things are from the body part support group held by christopher lloyd's head to the absurd and totally unforeseen twist of who was his owner and thing rebelling against them that is a standout moment man that is a real standout moment um that
Starting point is 00:44:05 could have really gone either way yeah errant go into it man no what to it i thought it was great. The fact that they were to create new lore for this iteration of the Adams family but for it to be standing on its own in a way that was interesting within the narrative they established here. I think it was really awesome
Starting point is 00:44:23 and I'm wondering if classic Adams family fans are going to be like really upset by this or they're going to like, that was great. That was genius. But yeah, someone who's more new to the Adams family or more of a casual fan, I thought it was a really smart way to
Starting point is 00:44:39 give him a backstory and tie it into the entire history of the immediacy of the Adams family so yeah I really liked it and I did not see it coming I watched the first episode of the original show there's a laugh track really is a sitcom oh yeah yeah yeah but it's not in front of a live studio audience it's like it's one of those like Andy Griffith style one where it's like yeah it's like they clearly shot this you know wherever they needed to shoot it but there is a laugh yeah it's either a fake laugh track or they had an audience watch it
Starting point is 00:45:12 yeah or something like yeah because they just laugh at like anything in that it was like I'm like how was them like how is that funny I don't even think that's a joke it's a different time you know people found way different things funny
Starting point is 00:45:29 just to pat it to make people think that it's more fun than it actually yeah yeah it was really weird but yeah I probably had the most of that experience that you're alluding too. It was the biggest ask I think they levied at me as I'm not like an expert on the Adams family but I did grow up with the movies
Starting point is 00:45:48 some degree of the comics having seen old episodes of the show and like that's one thing where I'm like I don't need a backstory for thing I don't even want a backstory for thing and the more it went and the place it ultimately wound up I was like you know what if we have to do this it's pretty cool like I got caught up in the moment of the reveal of it and even though I had to go like
Starting point is 00:46:07 wait wait hold on what you know at the same time you know it was fun getting to chew on that and ultimately the idea that he should be you know the last vestiges of you know benevolence from you know the right hand of some mad evil scientist you know the further you start to heap details on that explanation the more you're like yeah it seems pretty appropriate for it yeah so like you know i had that conscious you know idea fire of like well you know any adam's family now is not going to be like the definitive this is is the only lore in canon and what they did here i thought was quite creative so yeah like ultimately i really enjoyed that i wish they kind of infuse that theme like at the very start of this season
Starting point is 00:46:49 or something that's where that's where i guess it feels like a part two is like they still only like set up shit like that wasn't established before um but yeah i do kind of always then i think it would have a bit of a stronger payoff speaking to the incredible christopher lloyd which one is your favorite performance of his and why um it's always going to forever be doc brayette round for me. And I apologize to Aaron for asking his question. I guess he must have asked us
Starting point is 00:47:15 some normal around Adam's family questions. Oh. But I'll slightly divert it. Aaron, what do you think of Christopher Lloyd here? I thought it was fun. I think he was a really cool supporting role. I'm happy that he's still out here getting work. And I don't know how old he is.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But I feel like Christopher Lloyd's one of those actors that's feel like he's been old forever. Yeah. It's like Ian McKellen. Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, Roger Rabbit, too. he was great and roger rabbit me and terer just watched that recently i loved him about that yeah uh but yeah i was very curious to know how they filmed it i was like is he like mocap or like did they put a just effect around him after the fact because like you can tell those christopher lloyd but didn't
Starting point is 00:47:53 look real at the same time it tripped me out but i think they did a lot of trickery but i think his face is him yeah i don't think they they probably did have scenes where it's just a full cg head but he probably performed the whole thing on the camera i never believed it no it's weird it looked it's like animatronic sometimes to me it did it does it look like a weird cg i think i'm like it's is uncanny because it's like a it's like when they used to when they would put video game like like kevin spacy and call a duty or some shit you know like this is weird i'm really aware i'm looking at him you know you know it does like i i don't disagree it is one of the effects in the show that you're almost always looking at going this i'm very aware this is
Starting point is 00:48:38 stitched together with lots of CGI and I think I got endeared to it over time partly because there are times I think when a digital effect can take on the effect of a very visible practical effect if the commitment is there and if you're still sitting there going like but well though and I think
Starting point is 00:48:54 the thing is Christopher Lloyd he could have literally phoned that performance in but I feel like what he gave them to work with does kind of help to tie it together so after a while I kind of didn't care that it was a CG effect because it is creative I will say I like When he died, I did find that effective.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah, I was sad. And I do like that the show was, and I said it during the reaction, like they were willing to kill off Christina Richie, they're willing to kill off Christopher Lloyd, and make them actual characters. Yeah. And not just, hey, remember them from the previous Adams family stuff? Like, it's neat to know that association,
Starting point is 00:49:29 but they make them real characters. And it said it does, it feels like they're just killing off a cameo. Yeah. I just, I think there's like two more here. from Robbie. What do you think of Agnes's arc? Did the young Evie Templeton played the character well, or was it too off-putting?
Starting point is 00:49:46 And how much fun was the choreographer of her and Emma Myers' dance? That dance, the new lady group. Give it a good work. And chow from Sardinia. The choreography of that was incredible. It's going to be really hard to replicate. Part of my brain was like, was this their attempt at what they did in the last season,
Starting point is 00:50:03 which kind of didn't seem like they were attempting to become a big viral moment with the dance? But I'm like, this is way too hard to replicate. This is like a whole thing you have to do. I'm sure someone will pull it off. But I actually think the way they art into them becoming friends was very natural. The one part with Agnes's art that I thought was a little weird was how quick she was like, I don't care about you anymore. I'm like, that's kind of a process to like get rid of caring of what the other person thinks.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And I don't feel like the actor like fully let that go. I'll give that credit to her. I don't feel like EB Templeton actually fully like she seemed to. smile when once they approved yeah approval like not caring about that yeah so um but uh yeah no i think uh as a character who started off like uh i feel like you might be fucking annoying to then like oh you're quickly you're becoming one of my favorites and oh man that now i'm connected to the that's what this latter half provide like oh no i'm like really feel for you man like i really care about your feelings and so i think they did an amazing job with her i think the writing and her did an
Starting point is 00:51:08 Eastern John. No, I would agree. I think I was like cried something with her. Yeah, well, I think I laughed at you and I said, what a pants. What an idiot! Yeah. What a girly man. Yeah, I got a little misty eye. I got a little misty eye. I am a girl. I am a full-on woman. I think I punched you in the nuts.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Chromosomes from this show. No, I loved her, and I think her character had some of the most effective dynamics in terms of wondering what the effects of all these experiences we're going to have. Because, like, yes, she has the obsession and the sort of big-eyed, you know, sort of creepy, quirky humorousness.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But there were times when I really believed her just heartbreak and anguish, and I was like, is she going to have like a villain turn? Is she going to, you know, feel so invisible and so racked with anguish that she is going to become some kind of, this is a power that would lend itself well to various villainous, you know, exploits. And I often wondered, yeah, what was going to become of her in a real emotional direction? And I think, yeah, she did a tremendous job at bringing the Tim Burton, you know, whimsy, but also grounding it in, like, real emotion and stuff like that. For sure, man.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Absolutely powerhouse. Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. I thought she did an amazing job of walking that line between, you know, being a character that was really useful that felt integral and held her own to the characters that were established in season one. and also was just in her own right had her own layers I thought that was a beautiful performance so they did forget about her friends at some point in the show because like didn't you introduce her with a friend group at the beginning of the season
Starting point is 00:52:47 yes I think the show just forgot about the fact that she had other friends I think she forgot about her friends because of her obsession over Wednesday she was definitely amidst other people yeah because that's what sold the twist all of her friends were on screen the whole time they were just invisible that's true oh my god yeah you're right about forgot about that that was like her introduction um yeah what the hell they're like yeah now we're a trio like i guess she's just
Starting point is 00:53:12 fuck her friend's like yeah yeah but you know i think the the way that they incorporated her into the show made her a worthy addition i look forward to seeing her in the next season she felt like the only one honestly she felt like the only one who's an actual outcast for sure yeah you know amongst the outcast yeah and i felt that very very villain turn thing i felt it was coming like that entire second half of the season like oh she can't mess them like screw them over but no she was a true right or die and i love the heart of it man
Starting point is 00:53:42 she was great a lot of heart there and um let's see we got we got one last one over here from alexandria i was so excited to see angelo robinson's name pop up as director for this episode uh i think it was two by five or least favorite episode she wrote editor director of my favorite movies
Starting point is 00:54:02 Debs, who are a question for you guys or who are some of your favorite female directors? I do. I mean, like the ones that have really stuck with me, maybe is too cliche of an answer. I mean, it's like honestly, the sad part about it is like there's more than one
Starting point is 00:54:18 might realize, but there's a few who are actually popular. But Sophia Coppola and this is the sad part for me. I cannot remember the actor, the Kent one. Jennifer Kent. Jennifer Kent. Yeah, Jennifer Kent. Yeah, Jennifer Kent.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Bobby Duke is one of my all-time favorite horror movies and what was the follow-up she did? Is that the one she did with Nicole Kimman that I haven't seen? Yes. I have to watch the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like really heavy, hot movies. No one or whatever, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I mean, like, Jennifer Kent just takes it solely. Oh, my God, who did the invitation? Kar and Kusama, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that one. What else did she done? Jennifer's body. It's got to be heard that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Just because I know more of her films. I would put her then above. of Rooka. Well, and actually, didn't, like, I want to see one of this director's most famous movies that's like a vampire movie, but didn't Catherine Bigelow make a vampire movie? Yeah, because she's done... Yeah, I want to see that, because, like, she's done some tremendous stuff in, like, strange days, underrated-ass movie. Point Blank. Point break, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Hurt Locker. Mm-hmm. Amy Heckerling directed Clueless, which is one of my favorite movies, I believe. I believe that was Amy Heckerling. and Aaron, do you know any women in life? As you guys were talking, I was, like, racking my brain with all the female directors. Like, Nia Dacost is great. You know, she did Candy Man. Olivia Wilde was really awesome when she did Book Smart.
Starting point is 00:55:47 You know, it's funny, and I haven't seen any of her films, but I'm watching the show Girls right now as time of recording this. And Lena Dunham, you know, she's very unlikable in that show. but damn does she write and direct some really good characters and performances. So that for the sake of Hell yeah. You can see this conversation. I'm going to say Lina Don't know. Hell yeah. A lot of people forget that
Starting point is 00:56:07 like, even American Psycho was directed by a woman. What's it? Yeah. A lot of people forget shit. They're like some of the biggest like horror movies. Hey, friggin' Lexi Alexander directed the Punisher Wars. Yeah, yeah. It's hard as shit that movie. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Shouts out. um yeah i'd say so and um i know there's someone i'm forgetting yeah i've had the same which i guess other last contribution i bring is um i i did not care for the writing of how everything went down with enid's guy yeah it's just that that was weird how it all ended to like what the fuck and uh i thought like this implementation was it just felt like pure plot device shit. But there was no like real affecting thing about it. It was just something to give
Starting point is 00:56:54 something for Enid to do rather than to keep her away from Ajax. It felt like lip service to like they're hormonal because they're teenagers and stuff and this is a thing that would happen during a school year. I stopped liking you because I'm matured and I'm myself now and then she dates
Starting point is 00:57:10 another guy and then you guys like kind of cheating on her like ah but I we can still be friend in the end and I was like what was the point of all of us? I like the scene that wrapped that all up, but like the actual thing didn't amount to it didn't really compliment the show itself. And she didn't seem that heartbroken.
Starting point is 00:57:26 No, I mean, I like her, yeah, being like, hey, I realize this was just because I had this and hey, other girl, I'm not even going to be shitty to you. You look great. She just shows up. But it is. Like ready for the freaking pirate ball. Yeah, it is definitely like, oh, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:42 I guess this is happening. We just learned about this like 20 minutes ago. Yeah, yeah. And she's like, takes a red eye from the Philippines just lands here, it just gets on a Nevermore campus. What the hell just happened? So, yeah, that was strange. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:00 for the most part, I really dug the last three episodes a lot. I had a ton of fun, and I liked the setup for the next chunk. And I thought it was very moving and the themes that I leaned into with the family and you know, misunderstood. There's so much
Starting point is 00:58:15 heart that I really did connect to. surprises of twists I thought the last reaper were actually quite splendid so yeah and Aaron just hates everything in life. That's true. That's how it goes. It's the worst thing I've seen on Real Rejects and the last day
Starting point is 00:58:31 it's been real. Replacing with Koynex season I know we'll respond super positive. This is definitely Koi's show. This is such a Koi show. This is Koi's demographic. You know, he's a he will respond greatly to this. But I'm on Wednesday Demon Hunters.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Oh no. Oh, got a sing-along. I just want to start putting Koi on shit that he really wouldn't reconnect him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actively challenged Koi on camera. Yeah. Affect the channel that much.
Starting point is 00:59:00 You're doing a solo reaction to the summer I turnpric. Anyway, that's it for us. What did you guys think of Wednesday season two, part two? Did you love it, like it, hate it? Do you a fan of Coldstone Creamery? Leave your thoughts down below. Yeah. that's it for us and we'll see you guys relatively soon don't forget you can support the channel via
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