The Reel Rejects - What The Hell Are Disney & DC ACTUALLY Doing?!

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Kathleen Kennedy Actually Leavinng?! Daredevil Born Again Reactions, Avengers Doomsday Being Rushed, Andor Season 2 Is Dumped, And A Plethora Of DCU Updates. Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau dive into the latest chaos from the worlds of Marvel, Star Wars, and DC Studios. The first Daredevil: Born Again early reactions are in, and they’re surprisingly phenomenal—but is CGI holding the show back? The Russo Brothers finally break their silence on Avengers: Doomsday, but did they actually say anything meaningful? Meanwhile, Kathleen Kennedy is officially leaving Lucasfilm—this time, it might actually be happening, and we break down what it means for the future of Star Wars. Speaking of Star Wars, Andor Season 2 has a confirmed release date, but fans are furious over Disney’s bizarre release strategy. Over at Marvel, Jon Bernthal is returning as Frank Castle, but rather than a Punisher series, we’re getting a one-off special—is this a smart move or a missed opportunity? Then there’s James Gunn’s DCU Updates—is the reboot already in trouble, or does Gunn actually have a plan? Plus, Timothée Chalamet’s recent speech has the internet divided, and we weigh in on whether he’s a Hollywood visionary or just overhyping himself. This episode is stacked with news, analysis, and unfiltered reactions, so let’s get into it! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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about here's what we got on the agenda so far today. A lot of Disney stuff. Daredevil early reactions. Kathleen Kennedy might actually be leaving. You need to do that news story at least once a year. It's quarterly now. Yeah, you got it at least once. Punisher might be getting a special and or let's just shove them all out at once because that's what we love to do. And apparently Russo Brothers said something about Doomsday that has people Doomsday talking. And this is the one we got our DC Studios guy for D.C. Slate stuff updates. Oh, my God. And then as I was talking to you earlier today, the Green Lanterns photo got released. And Coy really wants to talk about Timothy Shalomey. I literally only, that's all I texted you. There's all this news this week. And I was like,

I got to talk about Shalemy's speech, Craig. But that's the difference between this show and every other show on the internet is I can just be like, this means something to me. Yeah, man. I mean, I have like some slight opinions about it. There's chapters if you guys want to hop around. thank you to all who attended multi-com by the way that was a really successful event thank you you could watch koi's panel that he did with kevin smith rob lyfeld and robert kirkman that is of course up here on the youtube channel watch the panel i did with shong gun vivian blair and daniel logan and of course the real rejects panel so thank you guys before we get into all these news we had a lot of deaths in the past couple like couple days within 72 hours or so yeah yeah

it's been crazy we don't want to like dive too much into We just want to acknowledge a loss of like three people. Yeah, like Robert Orchie, who's a prolific writer, Michelle Tractonberg, who was our age, a little bit older than us. I think like the first, you know, Nickelodeon princess kind of, like grew up with Michelle Tractonberg. And then very recently to filming Gene Hackman, the legend Gene Hackman at 95. His family. His whole family. That's a strange bit of circumstances.

His wife and dog. Yeah, like you messaged me and you couldn't have said. it better that he it's like it's weird for a 95 year old man to have anything but natural cause like it was it was yeah i forgot i texted exactly but it was the most interesting uh dynamic around someone who's death i would have just been like that's unfortunate he i'm so glad he made it's 95 like what and then like the next sentence was like the yeah because it i i don't i mean as of now we have no idea um but it definitely an odd um situation around that death uh and then yeah and the michel tracking rate thing is like a liver thing i don't know man just heavy heavy stuff and they're all

legends in their own way yeah you know it's like the way we quantify legends is it's very subjective and everyone like people who are buffy the vampire slater fans i'm sure like legend in some way hurry the spy man europe trip you haven't seen hero my you've never seen euro trip no scottie doesn't know i hear you say that a lot i know you're a huge euro trip i confuse christian cruick so much because i did the like a smallville reunion panel and i kept being like Euro trip i kept throwing in like she Kristen Kurok is one of my biggest crushes growing up because Alana on smallville but euro trip was like her first thing outside of small that I saw so it was it's like a teen sex comedy smallville is like so buttoned up and like you know it's on the CW so

for her to do a sex comedy I was like my word so I love Euro trip and Kristen Kuroke was like I didn't think anyone loved it as much as this guy that's awesome to hear right that's a solid recommendation that's your trip's great that's a unique sell on the sex comedy It has the best Matt Damon cameo of all time. I've heard that and I don't know what it is. And I love that for you because you're about to experience something that is revelatory. Like, where's this Matt Damon cameo? It's so good.

Anyway, there's not going to be any smooth transitions today. I'm just going to call them out so it's easier for me to identify chapters. Chapter one of this episode of the real R-E-A-L-R-E-A-L-R-Ejects podcast. Coy, I'm relieved to see it. I skimmed it briefly, just a few. and then I read a little summation of it because I didn't want to get too involved in the specifics. It's like if I see a Rotten Tomatoes capsule,

I'd like to just see that a couple of ones and be like, I'm good now. I don't need a deep dive into this. The Daredevil Born Again, early reactions are pretty phenomenal. I did the exact same thing you did. You did? Yeah. I went. Okay, that's enough.

I didn't want to read. I already read one word, which I'm not going to tell you because I'm not a monster. I read a word that I think already ruined something and it was on one of the capsules and I was like, why would you include that? And like, and that was my moment of I was, I was only going to read two more and I was like, well, no, no, and I'm out. Yeah. So like I only read like five or six things and one of them already ruined something. So I'm out. I, I hate when early reactions

try to be clever. And they're not. When they're not and you're like, you just kind of, because there's one thing I sort of read. And they put it in bold italic. The one word was in a bold italic. Like I stopped at the third one because I sort of read something and then they had a gif of the character and I was like, well, I feel like you just spoiled some shit. That's so clearly a spoiler. Why would you do this to me? Yeah, like kind of a big one to be at least to even be on the lookout for. I don't want to know anything. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like all you got to do is just tell me the shit I kind of want to hear if it's true. You know, the what the main thing I've heard is like the most cliche thing. And here's like CGI, a little wonky at times. Which is kind of weird to hear because I don't associate the show Daredevil with CGI. But I did. notice in the trailer there's a lot more cg i's disney now what are you going to do but everything else apparently it's like if you're like it's the best first episode of any which is a weird category it's a very specific compliment yeah because it's not really a first episode it's like two it's the first episode of a sequel show but yeah it's also people watch two episodes like does the second one dip

oh that's what you mean by two yeah i thought you meant two by this by the second show no literally like is two episode premiere so it's a weird thing like the first one except that like i'm not usually negative. It's like, but when you were going to show back in a sequel way, I wouldn't consider that first episode. A pilot. Yeah, the actual, I guess it's a pilot of Born Again, but there's so much. Yeah, this is especially a confusing one, you know? But I'm glad people are loving it. Me too. Yeah. They're saying it's violent. They're saying it lives up to that. And there's some, obviously there are those people where they do seem like they love everything all the time. and generally you don't you can kind of see through the lines when you're seeing like early social media reactions when they're being like hyper specific on one or two things because they're looking for the good thing to say because they're afraid to say the bad thing yeah and i didn't get that vibe when i was looking through it it felt like there's there's a genuine sense that they have a they have confidence and the fact that Disney actually sent out um screeners to people yeah and they sent all the episodes which they never do sometimes that can read as they're dumping it other times that is a sign that they're really

confident in what they got going because it's not the release date of your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, which is an amazing series. By the way, if you haven't seen it, they're doing like two and then one at a time and then two and some other point, you know, it's a weird schedule, but the fact that they're doing all the episodes that like weeks in advance to give you the press. That means they're confident in the whole run and it's ending. That means they're confident in the conclusion. Because sometimes they'll give like six out of nine. I'm like, is it not in will? Or like they'll want you want the third act out there, but this is just blind confidence Yeah

Put-in-a-ha-ha-ha Get ready for a lot of terrible impressions during our reaction The penguin's back! I don't even know how we could talk like we did what 12 weeks of penguin because it continued after the show Yeah, like that wasn't we couldn't shake penguin reactions even when pigwood had no so good got felt the fish so excited to see skinny Wilson Fisk yes skinny fish skinny fish with okay well we're on the the subject of daredevil this news see i'm trying to figure this out do i go with what will be most engaging or smoothest to transition to coy i mean i would

have gone and or after because that's why the release schedule is so weird i love the way you think what is disney doing putting out an even weird or release schedule for andors just what i think you guys got it down nope nope because your friendly neighborhood spider man is like 25 minutes long an episode. Yeah. So even if you're going to do three episodes, it's a movie length. It's fine. Andor it's generally longer. And dense. And dense, thought-provoking.

Yeah. I get that Andor was not a huge number show when it first came out. But it grew more than anything I've ever seen. And that rarely happens for Disney Plus a streaming service show. It's also like almost universally beloved. Yeah, their trailer is like highlighting the critically acclaimed side of their first season. Yeah.

And I'm like, did you guys not pay attention? People want season two because of how great it is. It grew in popularity. There were so many people, YouTubers who would do reviews of Andor way after it had come out. And they would still do okay. And they would still do well because the word of mouth on it was so strong. Yeah. this is ruining the experience with

they're doing three episodes at a time they're dumping it in full weeks oh my god and it's a 300 million dollars and it's the final season too it's like the most expensive show why would you not want 12 weeks of that I don't think it's too late to change your mind on do it now I think I think you should

if there's any one we know some people at Disney sometimes watch our shit no one who's this influential but fix your shit I know it's you watching He's watching. He's also mapping out the schedule himself. He's in his room. I'm giving Zazlava a massage right now. Just typing calendar dates going, that looks good.

But I don't understand. Like, I'm sure it's rushing. I know Daredevil's got a truncated release because of Andor. And then Andor's probably rushing for something else. But these are two biggest shows of the year. Yeah. It's not like there's something bigger that Andor is rushing for because it's all done in four weeks. Like, it's done. Yeah.

Why? I think it's a combination of they're afraid of how the Star Wars brand has been tamper with oh this is good because then we can start waiting in kathling kennedy oh we're figuring that's what's happening oh my god yes like the star wars brand is being like a little bit damaged obviously popularity has dwindled they did skeleton crew this is what i mean every it's not a one-to-one thing it's not a one-to-one comparison just because skeleton crew wasn't a huge viewership show that doesn't mean it's going to be the same thing for andor andors loved beyond belief like so was skeleton crew generally but andr's on another level of storytelling

that is a general belief when it comes to that show. So it shocks me that they would just do that. When the first season was, I think the first episode was, the first season was three episodes the first day. And then singles. And then once a week after that. Yeah.

And it did grow. Oh, man. And I'm so like already exhausted by the density of it. Even if I liked the binge model, which I hate, I don't want to lose out on the nuance because I'm like, oh, got to watch the next one. It's such a bad idea. Because every episode is craft.

Every episode is composed and you dilute that by doing these three episodes at a time. You're not, you just look at it as one giant package of a season and what happened to when we can look at it as one episode at a time. And a four, you get four videos out of reactors instead of 12 and like that's advertising for you. Who knows, we might, we might do five videos per three episodes. Yeah, 20 videos. Part one, part two of every three that we do. We're going to do our reactions and then the review. No, but it's such a bad thing for, like, reactions are such marketing.

Like, it's such a smart way to get marketing, like, out there about your show is you're having that conversation about the property. Why would you cut that by that much? You know what I think they might be influenced by? I mean, part of it does seem like they're dumping it. The other part does seem to come back to Arcane for me. But Arcane was specifically crafted for you're going to do three episodes at a time. because they're each specific chapters, and it works perfectly. Season two was not as strong as season one, in my opinion, and a lot of other people's opinion.

It wasn't, but it still feels very intentional in those three episodes that when they're crafting it on paper, it has to be those three episodes at a time. I don't feel like that was Gilroy's plan for this. I feel like the show is only grown in popularity critically and by the fans, and the worst thing you can do with the only guaranteed hit is go, all right, it's over. And I'll say this. I think that Tony Gilroy, it's Gilroy, right? I think Tony Gilroy did an excellent job with season one.

But I blame Kathleen Kennedy for this release date. That's the tangent. And here we are. Story three. When terrible thing, when Star Wars is good. She had nothing to do with it. She had nothing to do with shit on that. But when Star Wars is bad.

Everything is her fault. Why was she directing so much? Why was she just micromanaging everything? She shouldn't have starred as Luke Skywalker. if she didn't want this heat that devil woman yeah way to wear a mask and play andy circus i had this thought in the car that really dawned on me i have sometimes when i think about kathleen kennedy my honest first reaction is seems like an unpleasant individual and then i asked myself why and then i went i have nothing to really back this up with in true detail and i and i

I realized the echo chamber that because of what I'd been exposed to, because that's the thing about an echo chamber, it's a great talking point to say, I don't want to be part of an echo chamber. It's really clever to say that. But sometimes you, that's the only thing you hear in passing or whatever. And before you know it, your thoughts are influenced. And you have an opinion, sometimes a strong emotion. And then you go, where'd that come from? I don't even know why I have that. What is that source? And I realize I have that with Kathleen Kennedy. Because I don't really have anything against this individual, Kathleen Kennedy. I agree that Star Wars has been the weirdest wonky journey since Disney bought it. Yeah. It started off strong with Force

Awakens. And then Rogue One, like in terms of, yeah, we're back. We're on the right. This is a good starting point. And then Rogue One was a lot of people love Rogue One. Last Jedi. Everyone, everyone knows us when the divide happened. But they would announce shit that never gets made often at like Star Wars Celebration in T-23 and nothing gets made. So when something isn't in rocky territory or shambles, I think it is important to constantly go who is the leader. I think that's so important to do because it always trickles down from that.

Right. And a leader in that way, I heard someone Simon Sinek, you put it interestingly, he said, I think we should get rid of the term CEO and use the word CV. for Chief Visionary Officer because that's really what a CEO has to do is be the Chief Visionary Officer to guide this. And when you look at the, there's a lot of hits and misses.

Yeah, it's a mixed bag. And I do feel like it would be an okay time to step down. But I feel like we have to get to a point where we can also acknowledge like the good that's happened. She had something to do with the good that's also happened in the Star Wars universe because it's not ball black and why not everything's bad. It's like Kevin Faggy and everybody's like Kevin Faggie's dropped the ball. I was like, no way home was the, when you blame Sony for the Sony movies, but then you don't get

Kevin Feige credit for No Way Home. It's like, why was just that one exceptional to you? Yeah. But you can be like Kevin Faggar ruined everything after endgame. It's like, but we've had Shang Chi and we've had No Way Home. So it's the same thing where it's like it's like, it's, you can blame the leadership when it's bad, but no one credits the leadership when it's good. That's generally leadership. Yeah. Yeah. And then if a leader wants credit, it looks bad. Yeah. Then it's like, why is the ego on this leader? But like I, but it's funny when you said like when I think of Kathleen Kennedy, I have negative things. I think one of the benefits of me not spending much time on YouTube is when I think of Kathleen Kennedy, I go like, I wonder if she was related to JFK.

Like, I don't have any association. I don't think of Kathleen Kennedy. Like, I just don't have any pro or con. I've seen her speak. I've been to events and I'm like, as a lady, like, I just don't have any tie. Yeah. So, like, it's interesting when this, all this news came out and like, there's headlines that are like, she's going to. And then the next day headlines are like, maybe. And then the next time's like she's staying and that happens every year i'm always just like you guys think about this lady a lot i don't have any association with and i like star wars but i don't like have that devout oh my god i have to blame someone i just go like what's the next property like is this going to turn itself around but i'm the same with like kevin foggy like if i don't like

a movie as much as i want to i don't think he can make everything perfect but i as long as there's more hits than misses i'm like let's see where this path goes and i'm always on the side of like i can't believe this exists i'm excited now granted that can where down and that can be something where it's like at some point you need to be like i'd like some more good than just neutral but with star wars like i don't maybe it's because i'm not as big of a fan of star wars as marvel but i don't think about her i think about the directors i think about the writers i think about the studio having certain mandates like maybe she's to blame but i don't know so i don't since i don't know i don't think it's fair to point the finger well i think when it comes

to a movie it's really we always want someone to blame for whenever something goes wrong right in our lives we all have our that's why it's the second stage grief because the blame is a natural thing that happens i'm saying it's the right thing or an okay thing it just happens and with a movie a lot of times you can have this same exact crew make a completely different movie the directors often work with the same crew yeah and they might turn out something is not good but the whole time when they're making it for six months to a year right feels great feels like they're on the path it's probably how love and thunder felt that's how yeah so a lot of this stuff and up going yeah so maybe that just happened a little too often with star wars because yeah when

you look at the hits that they've had mandolorean season one and two people love this shit out of mandolian season one and two yeah hates break to you guys kathleen kennedy had a lot to do with that and at the end of the day i i do think you know not with any emotion tied to it but just for her to step down once mandolary and grog who comes out that seems like a kind of a chapter ending yes because that is the actual original thing the whole saga's over that was that was created under the Disney umbrella that seems to really have pierced the veil of beyond just going to nostalgia

for the Star Wars universe. It's a new generation's fandom. Like, Mandalorian, like my mom didn't care about Star Wars to the same scale. She liked Star Wars, but Grogrew made her like, she loves Groke. So, like, I feel like that's the new fandom that she found. So ending there seems natural, but I don't

know if she'd step down before that movie. Well, Din Jarin is my favorite Star Wars character. And he was created under the Disney era. But that's only thanks to John Favreau and Dave Filoni. She had nothing to do it. And Pedro Pasquale. Who she had no hand in pairing up either.

She loved them to transition Faloni into live action. And Star Wars Rebels is another Kathleen Kennedy era thing that people love. Well, she was involved in Lucasfilm and Indiana Jones and everything. Spielberg era. She's been involved in a lot. So I think there's a lot to honor about this individual. And I feel like when she retires, I don't feel like we need to keep casting stones. Because it seems the time I took it real is the day I got an upload of Dan Merle talking about it. Because Dan Merle is not one to just milk a subject like this.

So when Dan Merle did a video about it, I was like, oh, this might actually be the time when this might be real. That Kathleen Kennedy might actually step down this time. Yeah. And it would be a good time for her to step down. I think after Mandelorian Grogo, it makes sense. There's not a lot. Greenlit right now is coming out. Yeah, it's a solid chapter.

And then if she had, she oversought the Mandalorian era. I feel like Kevin Feigy is so excited for X-Men and Fantastic Four. he, I feel like that's why he didn't want to change any leadership after end game. But I feel like if he wanted to do something else, I could see that happening after X-Men. And I haven't even seen X-Men. But I'm just saying like it does,

there is natural progression points and after Mandelaar and Grogo feels like a progression point, whether you like her or not. Yeah. What do you guys think? Tell us to the comments. My favorite Star Wars character is Bill Burr. Who? Bill Burr? Yeah. You don't even know the character's name. It's space

Boston. Bill Burr. Like, I don't, it was, he played himself. and I love him. Mayfield. Thank you. I pulled it. I'm proud. I would never have. Yeah, nicely done.

Mixed Mayfield. Nicely done. I'm about to make fun of Koi. Yeah. I can't recall the name right now. And then he came into my brain. Bill Burr, favorite character in Star Wars.

Not Mayfield, Bill Burr. Speaking of Bill Burr, the Punisher. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in for this tension. The Punisher.

Three C films, his name's Chris as a YouTuber who does these movie news videos and they're great. They're like bite-sized versions but actually really engaging and he's really good at throwing in nuggets of opinions in there.

And I heard his section about Punisher because what they're doing, what the rumor is that John Bernthal is going to be co-creating or co-writing. Co-writing. Which I love to hear because, man, he's so passionate about the character.

It would be so character-developed. It would be so character-driven, right? Yeah. The Punisher special, like a werewolf by night, but for the Punisher. And he said, I don't understand why you can't just add on a few more minutes

and make it a movie. And I was like, that's a damn good point right there. I think they want to fix the Disney Plus brand. And I thought, yes, that's where my mind started trailing off too. Yeah. Because when I think about Disney,

I still think about the corporate synergy-driven company that wants to be able to theme park everything they're putting out in some way or merch what they're doing in some way I still think when I hear Disney I still think of

what I think of like with Disney land yeah you know so I don't think of the punisher you know what I think of it so Disney needs to enter this new era of if they're going to be in the streaming world and have shit like that have an adult show and I think Daredevil like I've been saying

from the beginning like Deadpool was huge for Disney because that adult and it made almost a billion or did make a billion, sorry. And then I think Punisher and Daredevil is the TV parallel to that. And I think it's really smart to grab not just a big IP character because most of their special presentations

have been, Guardians is big because of the movies, not because of the comic. Wear Up By Night was never big, but it was smart to do that way. They haven't done like a huge IP special presentation. I think it's really smart to make it Punisher because it's R-rated

and because it's showing the Netflix world fold into this one and you're going like, we're building out Disney Plus as well as movies. yeah it's like when I hear the word fox or Sony or Lionsgate any other studio name it's like you just think of a movie studio Warner Brothers you think of a movie studio you might think of a few specific movies but you just think of a movie studio

Disney you're like kid friendly accessible yeah yeah and they need to yeah I think Disney Plus you're right specifically Disney Plus needs to develop that because that's what helps when if they had a different studio name for a department it's like when when something owns a merrimax was disney people don't think about disney when they watch a miramax movie movie that's kevin smith movies are so raunchy you're not like oh we got disney paid for that in its own way i don't know watching the movie ransom and and with the mel gipson one and seeing like walt disney castle on one of the covers once you're like well that is what yeah and it's so weird because like it's all umbrellas but it's branding but they think that we're they think

having the disney logo yeah will promote it more but i'm like tarentino's meramax like That's the darkest distant from Disney. Like, but you don't think Tarantino like, oh, Disney film. Yeah, I think weirdly sometimes having the Disney logo hurts. Harts it. Weirdly, if like, okay, if you told me, even though Disney owns Hulu,

but if they're like, Daredevil's going to be on Hulu. I would have had way less apprehension. Pray. Pray on Hulu. Pray on Disney Plus. You're like, ooh, I don't know.

Are they going to do Predator at Disney Plus? But at the same time, the xenomorphs are Disney queens princesses. Tyler Darden's a Disney Prince dude is he because Fox owned by Disney Tyler Durdens the Disney Prince canon I don't love it here we are cast a comment no I can believe this 20th century Fox made fight club it was acquired by Disney Disney on the rights of fight club Tyler Durdens a Disney Prince are you saying he is it did someone at this come at the company they could like that

they could make yeah I'm not saying he's walking around Disneyland that'd be funny he should he's got an iconic fit could work that would would be amazing i'd love to see that redjacket and and edward and deadpool yes multiple personality duos no but i'm saying like the characters they have you have to have imprints like 20th century studios they got rid of the word fox but 20th century studios still exists yeah and they put out lots of great stuff it would have been a fox movie now it's a disney movies they call it 20th century studios whenever i see 20th century studios i still assume it's like leftovers your brain where's the fox i feel like it's still leftovers from the merger yeah that they're like oh yeah we need to

release this now some of it for sure but i think they're still green lighting stuff i feel like all this shit they bought has made it confusing now it doesn't help but that's infinite growth which we were talking about with like how society works now like that's it what they have to do it's crazy what is like even what are they doing do you got a brand it right my might just wait wait does disney own coca cola no cocacacacaca so kola owns this on that's what it is. Which sounds like Disney. Tasani, Disney, it's one thing.

They own a lot. They do have a distribution arrangement, though. Oh, do they? Oh, that's what I love to hear. Monopolys, guys, monopolies. Well, speaking to D.D., oh, wait, no, let's figure out about Punisher. I'm excited. Co-written by John Bernthal, directed by the guy who did...

They have a director? Yeah, dude, the guy that did King Richard, the Will Smith, Oscar-winning performance. Oh, my God. That director. I haven't seen that movie. It's good. But I got an Oscar-winning director. director or Oscar for actor is it John Berthol in that movie yes okay the call yes

Rinaldo Marcus Green yes he's directing co-written by Punisher himself he must have had a great time yeah he's got a long great he's like I want to come direct potisher for me it's cool it's described as a shotgun blast of a story but that also has pathos and emotion oh that's what you want with the punish a great log line yeah I'm I'm really excited for this and I think a special presentation is smart wow and John Berndtall is that unique talent that can have a podcast present himself all the time at the same time. Not oversaturated.

Not more always. Not oversaturate and you can still get lost in the character he's playing no matter how many times you watch him on a podcast. And how much you know the dude. Yeah. Whereas a lot of the time that's detrimental to an actor. He, um, Shaneless name drop of the week. He's someone who I've met at a few premieres and he's someone who, even though I've met,

we've had really good conversations. We always talk about not comic stuff. Like we've talked about masculinity. We've talked about like the direction his podcast is like, we've had really cool, real conversations and I've never had a Punisher conversation with him because I want to do that like if I'm going to make that moment about Punisher I'd rather do it like in a setting that feels like this like I wouldn't want to be like let's talk about the comic stuff because that's every conversation I have but what's fascinating to me is as soon as I see him at a Punisher at a con like there was one time

he was walking backstage to go back to this booth and I was like it's the Punisher and it scared me like I've talked to John I've never met the Punisher but I saw the Punisher once and he scared me and that's a separate thing to me like he was wearing all black because I think you know you want to be in that vibe for the con to like take photos but like that wasn't the friendly guy I've talked to a few times it was Frank Castle and it was so cool that I watch his podcast pretty religiously

I really value his opinion on things I really like John but to see Frank Castle in public I was like and it was cool because you're right he is separate and like he's such a chameleon and I totally forgot that was him and King Arthur like he is able to blend into the roles like Wolf of Wall Street I don't go like oh the punisher hanging out with like Jordan Belfort.

Like he feels like a chameleon. I don't know. I love John Brubb. I agree with you. I had a moment where he said King Arthur and I was like, do I correct him or do I let the comments correct him? And then you did correct me. Thank you.

King Arthur slept on Charlie Hunnamfield. I might have waited a little long enough for the comments. A few seconds too long. A few people in there. Let the engagement trickle in there. Slept on Charlie Hunham film. King Arthur. Guy Ritchie, real good.

Nobody likes it. A lot of that movie. I've been more and more people these days who bring up that movie. I've never seen it. And I've read way more. I think Guy Ritchie is the white man's Tyler Perry in a way. Contest. What?

I think Tyler Perry has a really strong audience. Okay. And critics just don't like him. Okay. And Guy Ritchie is a similar thing to me. I think Guy Ritchie is one of the most underrated directors working today. I agree with that. Who does social commentary about white people.

I was like, that's what I think you're going with. And I was like, and where does this land in that conjecture? I'm just trying to get engagement going. All right. Well, there it is. There's your clip up. Rock, see, you're welcome. No, I think Guy Ritch is extremely underrated.

And, yeah, this Punisher thing's going to be something amazing. Did you see Punisher season one and two, John? I saw season one. No, I think I saw some of season two, but I wasn't as gripped by it. It's not as good. It's not as good. Apparently, it's got a huge high IMDB rating. Season two?

Season two is the one where he's like with the girl, right? Yeah, it's the most cliche one. Yeah, it feels like an action movie from the 80s in the not the fun ways. I saw some of that. Season one's, yeah. Season one's exceptional. Season one is such a good show. Season one's really,

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Yo, man. Hey, it's like, Hey, brother. Hey, brother. Yeah, I love to work on the Punisher, man. Yeah. He's like, he's cool about it. And like him and Tom Hart,

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Or did they say like the most inocular thing you can say? I think they said something like, it'll surprise you. And I was like, all right, well, that's what you had to say, I guess. Like, I didn't even see a quote. I actually never asked you. Who do you think will be the leader of the Avengers? Cap. I think, hey, I think Cats America will.

I just think there'll be an element of, um, him getting that position. The internet got so mad at me for even positing that he'd have to, like, show why he'd lead. Everybody's like, he should just my default. And like, yeah, they've shown him leading in Falcon Winter Soldier, and they've shown him leading, but we've not seen him lead the Avengers.

So I do think there'll be an element of like him using his tactical knowledge and leadership and stuff to get to the point where he's leading. I don't think they're just going to like throw us into Avengers. Yeah. So I do think it'll be Captain America. I just think it'll be a journey in the film, the first film, in Dune's day. He doesn't even be the most powerful to be the leader.

No, that's not what leadership is. You just needs to be the guide, the one who knows that you utilize other people's strengths. And I think

Doomsday is going to be Avengers assembling. I don't think they'll already be a team. I think it's going to be like a one two punch. Do you feel like Chris,

Steve Rogers is the leader of the original Avengers? I feel like he is the leader on the field and Iron Man's the leader behind the scenes. I feel like once it's a field mission, Cap leads.

I feel like when it's about the team, it's Iron Man. Yeah, I feel like Chris Evans was Danny Ocean. Yes. And Rock, my junior is Brad Pitt. 100%. Yeah.

And that's important. And I don't know who the Brad Pitt's going to be in this new dynamic. Slash the Tony. Captain Marvel. Oh, I have a quote for you. Oh, yeah. That's right. About casting, because they said of casting new additions to the franchise,

Joe Russo told the Hollywood reporter. I think we're always looking for new faces, but there's always new stories because, there's always new stories to tell. I think these movies are going to be a surprise to people. We found a way into the story that's very exciting to us, but we think very radical, comma, bro, and I think it's going to challenge audience.

So that quote, my tinfoil hat theory, and it's never going to happen. But what I want that quote to mean, what I would dream of that quote to mean, is some maybe more than half, of the movies post-end game or another universe, and we're going to meet the actual versions of the characters and it's not going to be who you think it is

and we're going to find out like half or two-thirds into the film that the reason the celestial wasn't mentioned for so long was because it wasn't in the universe. The reason that these things feel disparate and the reason there's been such a mess is they can retroactively make by design and then it can be revealed that the actual sacred timeline has not been being played with correctly

and then they can have the Avengers assemble multiversally. What should feel like there'd be a lot of explanation to do? That would make the Daredevil thing and she-hulk makes sense. That would make the celestial thing makes sense. That would make so much makes sense. Daredevil's She-Hulk mask

is in the trailer. Right. I wouldn't have done it. I would do this thing that I just described that they won't do. I feel like that would be a lot. That'd be like an hour explaining.

Jeffrey Wright comes in there a lot to it up and be like, you haven't been the universe who thought it was. Maybe like it'll release like online videos to explain. Like wait a minute, I'm lost here.

What did they say? Challenge audiences. Challenge them. Bring it. Do something hard. That's what I'd do. It's not going to happen. That's what I'd do.

What do you think that quote means? I don't fucking know. What could it mean? I feel like they're already challenging them with Robert Downey Jr. That is such a divisive thing that they knew would be divisive. And they're sticking to their guns on that. And that's why. That is why I'm excited for it because I know you're, because I'm with you.

It could be terrible. Or it could be compelling as shit depending on the. execution of it. My worry is, you know, it's another project that was greenlit that they have to get done and that they're like, we're already in pre-production right now. We're doing all when they're filming in the UK. Clearly, it wasn't the screenplay for, you know, King Dynasty and they had to like, you know, churn out another script. And when you look at what D.C. is doing, I'm totally doing like a comparison thing. But hey, learn from it a little bit. Where you look at what D.C. is doing. They're very clear about, we ain't doing.

shit until we got the script down and we've passed on the script like as like approved not passed on like past the script's gone through passes to get to the point where we feel confident enough to then say hey this is going forward yeah and this isn't like an iron man one situation where you guys can like really improvise the shit of this this is one of your hardcore secret projects where you're gonna have culmination of a lot's culmination of like every freaking thing ever and multiversal shit you got to deal with there's a lot of moving pieces there's a lot of characters there's a lot of secrecy and green screen and flying in actors and shooting this and maybe they might not know that they're going to be like this isn't something you can like wing at all yeah you have to be really calculated

about everything you're doing and you're going to tell a good movie when you're done with it yeah that sets you up to want to watch the follow-up movie that they also have planned so yeah i'm a little worried about the movie yeah a little concerned that they're going into it's a little quick and it's got a release date that's not far away yeah the movie's coming out next year dude is it John? Where are you, John? He's not paying attention. What's the release state of Doomsday?

If I'm touching himself. I'm out here, just going at it. I respect it. It's been a long day. I think it's next May 1st, 2026. That movie is out in 14 months. I have not been paying attention to the detail. That movie is releasing in 14 months.

That is wild. It is currently the last day of February. I feel like you need like a year to shoot this movie. I feel like you need three. This movie's out in 14 months. Wins post-production. It just started production. Yeah, no, that's what I mean.

I think you need, you need like six months to write this. A year to shoot it. A year to shoot it and a year in post. That's what I'm said three. Like, I'm not being sarcastic. I think you need three. And I know they just announced them at Comic-Con. And I know that doesn't mean that's when they came on.

But when could this have possibly been conceived long enough ago to be this level of done to be filming to be released in 14 months because they were clearly going let's wait for this Jonathan Major's trial shit uh okay now let's maybe they had the money to start writing maybe they had a backup plan yeah it's like studios often do that they have multiple scripts or they're working on other projects

they do that they hire writers that were shit in every seat the light of day but margson McPhile aren't cheap or just sitting around this isn't just some like light decision 14 months Greg May 1 is so soon the Russo brothers are going to to die in this process. I'm so worried about them. They were so broken after the one, two punch of Infinity War and Endgame, and I like the Rousseau's as humans. And people got so weird about the first episode we did, I was like, I just wish that some of their stuff outside of Marvel had been successful. They could do that if they wanted. Nobody's like, why would you not want

people to make comic book stuff? And I was like, because they also wanted to make filmmaking, like, in directing their own IP and making their own things. Like, the filmmaking of comic books is tied to things. The filmmaking of your own IP isn't as tied to things. I just wish, you know that just like the actors like i feel like chris helmsworth has found a really beautiful path sebastian stan has maybe the best career outside the mcc since joining it but so many actors haven't had luck outside like tom holland and i and i just want people to be able to make these movies when they want not when they have to yes this doesn't feel like a want i think what a lot of filmmakers want is to to have the stamp of doing the first one and if that carries over so if you

like look at james gun he did the first guardians and he did the last the first the all three yeah yeah yeah so yeah yeah yeah So James Gunn did it. Rousseau brothers didn't do the first Captain American movie. They didn't do the first Avengers or the second Avengers movie. So they stepped in and they were amazing at what they did. But to really establish their names, I think a lot of it can come down to the first to create. It's like a pilot.

Like I feel like, you know, Dan Tractenberg, speaking of Perret, did the pilot for the boys. And like that gives it a tone and a style and a world. So we got to have that stamp. And I do feel like Winter Soldier kind of reinvented things in phase two. So the Rousseau's, I do feel like had a, you know, a say. Absolutely. But I do wonder, you know, the gray man didn't translate. I don't know how electric state is going to translate.

Like the stuff they're doing outside of that. And I just like, for them, I wish they were able to play to the scale outside. Yeah, me too. But I just 14 months, Greg. Well, they're challenging themselves first before they challenge the audience. They're going for. Yeah. Oh, well.

And then Secret Wars is the next year. so like are will they even have time to promote like wouldn't you promote this movie if you're shooting secret wars i know those actors are going to be exhausted too everyone's going to be so exhausted i think they should just delay it make a better movie i i i always say you can only release something once and and i don't think rushing to the finish line is removed i don't understand the intricacies that are involved with you know like oh we did announce this so we got to hit it but i'm like i don't know spend some extra money and like delay is more yeah because Because if you have a better movie, you'll recoup that money better and long term.

And the legacy of the cinema universe. The delay will be an investment. Right. That will pay off and better escrow over time. Yeah. Hear that Iger in your little massage parlor room. He's still watching Zostloff. He's still doing calendar dates.

He's still figuring out what Andor is going to be released. We're never invited to anything again. I know. Here I am always bitching about not getting you on Pressless. Dude, and I'm like, maybe it's because it is the... It's chill or don't. Yeah, pick a lane.

Pick a lane. Ooh, shill or don't would have been an all right time. That's a great title. But that's... Shill or don't. But that's what's fun about... To shill or not to shill? Sorry, for it.

I think it's really interesting because, like, there is a level of, like, commentary fuels this stuff. Like, what we do is advertising for them. But it's also our opinion for us. And so it's really messy when... I mean, that's how the show started.

It was us being like, people just to sort of, and we love everything and we're shilling. But then when we love stuff, people get mad because we love everything. But then when there's any sort of criticism, that one two punch of like, are we shills? And then Captain America reviews aren't great because they were good but not great. When we have nuanced conversations like this, it shouldn't be black and weight. It should be, I'm, you're hopeful for doom.

I'm worried for doom. We're both still excited for doom. People don't seem to get that third part. Yeah. And that's what I'm worried about with media literacy and the commentary culture. Same with the Kathleen Kennedy thing. If she doesn't step down. then it's going to be a ton of videos of like,

she shoulda, and then they'll get another new cycle of, now she is, whenever she inevitably does. It's just, it's a really messy thing that the internet movie conversation has become. And I really hope that the nuance thing

that we're trying to bring to it is, I know it's appreciated by the people that write it. But it's also like last week, our last episode, there wasn't a Hulk on a cover. So it did half the numbers because that's the only IP people want to pay attention to. And that kind of ties into my rousseau

brother's thing we're never going to discover a new grand thing if we're so focused on these things and then within the thing we're focused on there's no nuance on top of that everything's getting simpler and simpler and linear and more the commodified everything feels like a product not like a movie I started thinking about a very basic thing like the thought popped into my head when you were talking this one thing which is like gratitude multiplies and it really got us thinking about us and I'm like we do tend to and someone pointed out in a comic box in last time that we we get a little bit caught up in negative responses to stuff and we don't highlight or really talk about the positive stuff because we had a lot of positive

responses on what we've been doing yeah and I wonder like if if this mission statement to what we were embarked on here. Like, we, we ought to, like, highlight that a little bit more. And maybe that can help light a few more candles in the room. I'd be able to do a section of, like, our 10 favorite comments or something. Like, literally, like, make a mission out of it. Because it is human nature to remember the negative. Like, you don't grow from victory.

You grow from loss. So we're wired to remember the negative because we see it as, like, the tiger chasing us. But if we implement against our wiring, 10 favorite. comments or something that would allow us to force that yeah it would allow us to feel more of the positivity and then if we shine a light more on positivity that might create more but we'll feel me or positive we feel better than people will feel like even a multi-con there were a couple of people who are like hey that podcast you and coy are doing yeah man i love that podcast like this actually feels like a real conversation you guys are having and not just a typical new show i did

i was like thank that's all we want for that's literally all we want it's a live stream today and two comments were about this show in my live stream separately and it felt great it makes me happy because yeah I do have that thing where I feel a little bit compelled to reply to like negative comments yeah and I and then we talk about it as like this is what happens every single time and then it continued maybe weird but there's also a lot of people who are very understanding are we the baddies yeah no I agree I I want us to be aware of the world but also I got into pop culture to enjoy it not to hate it yeah I mean on your panel Kevin Smith did bring up an interesting point of it really your panel you did and what you guys were all talking about it

shine the light on i i have never been involved in the comic book community even though i grew up reading comics quite consistently and i've fallen off that bandwagon where it's like now when i read a comic it's because i have an assignment to do yeah um but even when i was growing up it was a very isolated thing like a lot of people read comics but i just never was i didn't go into a comic book store exactly i didn't shop at the comic book stores i didn't have comic book friends and it got me to understand like oh there's a very big difference with people who are part of the comic book community who experience these things yeah versus someone like me who wasn't actually involved in the comic book community despite reading them because he was saying stuff like

you know i just the fact that i'm seeing like captain america versing the hulk i just never thought I'd see that. How can you not like it? I'm like, I kind of get that. It's like, when I saw Justice League the first time, I was like, I'm just happy I could see all these guys on the screen. This is fun. Yeah. I was able to just see the fun. And I was very dismissive of everything I would grow to hate over time. That's what I miss most about how I, I mean, I still am more Kevin than internet. Like I still, I mean, like people, people don't like that. I'm, I'm 80% Kevin Smith and that like, this is just crazy to see. And I, that's half my review some of the time. like, this is why I'm coming from this asterisk.

Like, you have to understand this is surreal for me. Seeing a costume that's actually out of the comic, but all that's still crazy. But I think the 20% comes from just like the water torture of the drip, drip, drip of all the rest of the stuff. At the end of the day, there's hundreds of thousands of people that have access to tell us we're wrong and idiots and it's bad. And so, like, no matter how positive you are,

there's still some death of a thousand cuts that will affect you, even if it is just 20%. So, like, I mean, I know personally, I don't know what everybody else is going to do, But, like, when I have enough money that I can, like, you know, live off it, I'm deleting everything. And I never want to read about anyone's opinion of a comic thing ever again. Like, as soon as I can, because I want to go back to being, like, the cap fighting the Hulk, that's awesome. Like, the day I can, like, I'm just blowing it all up.

But that's to enjoy it again. I know people who are not affected by negative comments. They can just handle it. Like nobody's business. What drugs do they take? And where can I get them? It's just who they are as character. People and me, I'm like, after so many years, I've come to realize.

I'm just not that guy. Yeah, no, no, I'm not either. Like, I'm better for sure. I can, I, I can definitely, like, sometimes see a negative comment and just be whatever about it or ignore it or talk my way through it in like five seconds. Sure. But, yeah, enough of them, I'm like, it wears on my days. Yeah.

It's cumulative. It does. And it's weird because it's so, it's so in passing for them. Yeah. But it lingers and festers for people like you and I. Yeah. So I like the positive idea. Yeah.

Jasmine knew in a video that I was really reluctant for a post. And this is what this show is about, talking about stuff behind the scenes and us. She made a video about the comments that I mentioned during our poetic justice. No, during our Juice one. When we watched Juice, I mentioned at the opening of it. Like, I actually have been using the balance

of dealing with the negative comments, but I'd go into the comments on our videos of poetic justice and Boys in the Hood. And those were really, like, they helped me realize, that we're having a positive impact, and it's about stuff that really matters versus, like, trivialized stuff. And so since the comments were positive, largely,

about real stuff, they felt way bigger. Like, it's a bigger thing for me to hear that, oh, I really appreciate you taking the time to watch this or learn this or experience this versus, like, thanks for the comic wrecks. I love that people are reading the comic stuff, but if I'm affecting someone's day-to-day life, that feels huge.

And so Jasmine made, like, a little montage of video of, like, some of the comments that were positive. And, like, I was so nervous about even acknowledging positivity because I was so afraid someone would be like oh he's just gloating and oh look at this guy happy to blah blah blah and I was like what an awful thing that I'm not afraid

to acknowledge negative comments but I was nervous about acknowledging positive so I think we should do that I know I know what you mean I've never done what you said and but I know what you mean it's just like the closest I've comments sometimes on our social media when I clip when I'm tagging one of our videos

on like an Instagram story I'll sometimes take positive comments and I'll highlight that on the stories yeah but when I'm in the video I'm very uncomfortable to do that you know yeah but yeah it's like there's something totally fine about we've talked about night of every episode yeah exactly that's my point is that's why it's when we were talking I was like oh but yeah but a lot of times change starts with with us a lot of times like the system and I'm like but we are in the system in some way yeah so what dent what micro thing can we do that

hopefully enough micro is accumulating some version of a macro, you know? Let's do it. I like that idea. Let's add that to the thing. Yeah, John get to it. Find a positive. Oh, we gave John work. I didn't realize that would be right up.

Jonathan, I've assigned you to find a positive. John Humphrey, let's go in there. Find the positive. Joy in the comments. You almost became Liam Neeson just then. I know. It's weird as I can do impressions like perfect when I'm by myself. Oh, always.

But then suddenly when I'm like, you know, right? Like, you know you're doing a great job. But the second you're miced up or there's other people around, you're like, why am I dipping into someone? Oh, this is awful. Not the goal. Not the goal. That's why I respect impression is so much. It's insane.

I don't to just activate that shit. It's nuts. I do have one comment that just tickled me. So, uh, expert criminal one said, fresh out of the shower, blunt rolled, drink poured, and a real rejects video, double you day. That's all we need. Love to hear it. That was on the last podcast you guys did about James Bond the Rock. that's cool I feel I feel heart warmed comment if you just listen I would like to know who

there's a lot of podcasts I I put on diary of CEO Simon Sinek weekly planet they don't weekly band as I have video um but I I mainly just listen I don't really like sit and watch a podcast so yeah I'm about 50 50 with real ones of some real ones I watch the jumper though yeah I watch about half and I listen to it like half yeah hey core DC hey John chapter John tell us tell us what's happening at DC. Oh, there's much happening at DC, but not as much as you think because people just ask questions that lead places in James Gunn and Peter

Saffron were certainly apt to point out like, I see what you people are doing out here, but yes, their plan is to make, their plan is to have a seven property slate per year, two live action films and one

animated film along with two live action and two animated series for Max. They were out here talking a whole bunch of stuff updating the progress on certain movies detailing some of their plans to skew more youthful with some of these animated series and whatnot no word on a penguin too there's a lot of moving parts but i can go down a quick just list rundown of the the properties that were touched upon obviously you have superman supergirl woman of tomorrow is midway through production with the june 26 release date in mind brave and bold and the bold is being developed actively

they don't have a Batman yet James Gunn said though you might see him pop up at some point before that maybe Oh, did he really say it? Yeah, he didn't say it will definitely happen but he certainly said it would be possible that we would find him and you might see him in something before the Brave and the Bold and the Bold comes to be. The Blue Beetle Animative Show.

Blue Beetle Animat Show, there you go. That's where I put it first. That's where I'd do it. The authority looks like it is having the roughest road. It's been sort of pushed back in its development because they feel like something like that needs to be. be big and sweeping and wide. Swamp Thing is an example they listed of something that doesn't quite, you know, their plan being flexible even though they announced a slate. They never planned

sorry, not someone thing, Clayface September. They never planned on making something like that, but Mike Flanagan just had such a good script that they... It's like a Todd Phillips situation with Joker. Exactly. And that goes in hand in hand with their dedication to good scripts being locked down before moving on. Swamp Thing is being developed. There is an untitled Teen Titans movie in development. An untitled Bain Deathstroke movie that

they have said is sort of a misleading, well, they've cast doubt on how much of a specifically Bain Deathstroke project it'll be, but James Gunn said it's Bain Deathstroke-ish. So that's coming. Sergeant Rock, which apparently Daniel Craig was never actually attached to, but

certainly in good with Luca Guadignino, so that makes some sense. Swamp things... Wait, wait, Luca's doing Sergeant Rock? Yeah, dude, he's directing it. No, I didn't know that. Oh, the Sergeant Rock guy

doesn't matter in Kurtzumannas. Why is Koi getting so excited? Oh, Luca's going to do it. Now I'm invested. Oh, now I'm in. Slowly becoming my most anticipated DC movie. Well, here it is. Perhaps it was a big moment in the show.

That seems like such a departure for him. I think that's what the strength will be to show audiences like the DC logo. That's actually a beautiful tie into what we're talking about the beginning. When we think of Disney, we think of a tone. I think doing a Sergeant Rock movie and how. having it under the DC Studios banner is a great way to never let that be synonymous with a tone. Yeah. Like make a prestige war film and have it be DC Studios canon, but also show that you can make Superman and have it have crypto in it. But then also over here, like that's what

comics feel like. Yeah. I think they're building a comic universe and not a cinematic comic universe. Marvel just needs to feel like Marvel and not feel like Disney Marvel. Yes. Yeah, is what I'm but also, I think Marvel's also hurting because even when they feel like Marvel, there's a certain color palette you think of. There's certain tropes you think of. Whereas DC, he can avoid that that's very true john please what else is there uh and just a thing i learned in the process of uh absorbing this article apparently the mike flanagan clay face movie set for september 11th 2026 is uh going to be directed by james watkins so that is just a writing and and producing role for flanninganagan on that i imagine a lot of people are going to run with the

idea that he's directing it that is not the case swamp thing is a bit stalled out due to james mangled on the oscar trail for the the complete a dynamic duo is off is also on the schedule uh which is an animated robin origin movie focusing on dick uh dick grason and jason todd uh then you got tv shows peacemaker and if i'm not mistaken sorry to interrupt i'm not mistaken when jason that one he was like i'm still not sure if it's going to be canon right i believe he said that which is like an interesting development process i do love the idea that like as the universe is getting shaped you can decide yeah because their canon doesn't seem to be as, you know,

rigid. Religious. Yeah. Which I think is a helpful thing for creators, like for filmmakers. Personally, when I read a comic, I'm not like, what's happening in Superman? Well, I'm reading Batman. I like to have the freedom to tell the story. There is not an official comment on whether or not it is canon, but I think they are

leaving all these projects kind of open to the possibility to or not be canon depending, kind of like you said. Depending on the Ron and Tomato score. Of course. But it does say that there may be some kind of connection between dynamic duo and the live action, Brave and the Bold movie. So we'll see how that comes to be. This is such an interesting set of updates. It is not that telling.

It's just more like, here's the progress of all these things. Yeah. That's why they had it with just press and not like a hall H panel, right? Like to me, this is like the old school movie studio exec, but they're inviting press. in well do you feel like the slate announcement that that classic slate announcement that he did was the right call to to um put it in the package that they did i i feel the word i wrote down is explore i feel like perhaps some of these they could have been clear on we're exploring maybe doing this versus we are doing this because some of these like authority i'm like that might

not even happen i think it's context of like fan expectations of like fan expectations stock expectation and also new universe expectation you've got like you're working against three things you're working against what fans are going to assume you're working against what stock people need to see in order to have faith in the growing company and you're also working against the expectation of a shared universe as made by another company so i i think it's a no-win scenario and you choose your battle in the moment and you go okay this is what i think we need to do because he made very clear at the jump that there was going to be things that were not mentioned that would come into play and i think that that if you'd said,

and there are also things here that might not ever happen, then your stock would plummet. So I think you have to have some level of like, okay, this is what, and they were probably the most likely things, but you also announced this before a writer's strike. Well,

and like the writer's strike, no one could have accounted for just like the pandemic. So like, I'm not making excuses, but to answer your question, I think you're in a no-win scenario when you're taking over a universe while another one is already existing.

I think, I mean, Star Wars and Marvel have both announced it that hasn't, that they decided they're not actually going to do. But look at how much people hate Kathleen Kennedy because of that. Yeah.

But that's a mess, right? That's what I mean. Like, it's a no-win scenario. Devil woman. Burn her. JFK's cousin. We also got TV shows on the slate. Peacemaker's Season 2. Obviously, that's

coming out in August. Lanterns released a photograph. And they look hot and sexy. Creature Commando Season 2 is in development. Waller, they said, has hit a bumpy road on its way to getting a good script, but is also still in development. The comedy series, booster gold in development. Paradise Lost, the Wonder Woman

prequel also being developed, Blue Beetle, with creatives on hand from the movie carrying over Harley Quinn as well and then they just a green lid, they announced the green lighting. Here's the big news. We got D.C. Superpowers, which takes place at the Alliance School for Heroes and focuses on new students like Lightning, Flash, Plastic Man, Aqua Girl, Green Lantern, and Tara, who level up their superpowers. powers under the supervision of principal Martian manhunter in hopes of becoming, you know, the next generation of Earth's defenders.

My Adventures with Green Lantern is going to follow a high school student, Jessica Cruz, who has her life upended when, according to the official logline, a green lantern power ring falls from the sky and chooses Cruz a la Death Note to be its champion. And then there is also a Starfire series in development for the youth to, you know, give us an inroad to the world of teen titans and follow her adventures as she uses, quote, an ancient spaceship and discovers on her home planet of Tamarin to escape her planet and explore the stars along the way she'll meet spacebiker crush, plant-loving fern, and the magical princess amethyst of gem world, and together they will uncover the deepest reaches of the DC universe, save space dolphins, surf technicolor nebulaes, and boldly soar into the unknown. Lisa Frank. there you go so the kids are getting some some love crush is a lobo's kid it's interesting they're bringing in lobo's kid she's a fairly new character and no lobo lobo lobo's in super

supergirl right yeah but no uh lobo solo solo no i think it'll depend on supergirl and and i think mammoa wants it well of course he this one oh and the batman two script is uh very encouraging but it's not done and patinson is not the dc u bad man he's not going to be him so saying that rumor it's said it in all caps and italics and in bold so saying that rule rumor. Well, damn. I feel like the Batman, too, is going to be a masterpiece. I'm so excited. Don't know anything about it, but it's going to be a goddamn masterpiece. It's certainly the antithesis of Doomsday's release model. I know. Take it as long as you need. Make that movie when it's ready. Take it longer to do that Batman part two than it is to do. Doing a culmination of

this small contained Batman, take your time. Take your time. I don't want them to mess up a sequel to the movie I love like the most. Please. It's weird. When you say seven properties, it sounds like a lot, but I'm like some of these are going to kind of fly under the radar a little bit. That's just what happens with some of the things. Especially the young skewing ones. Yeah, exactly. But that's in our space. I'm sure parents are going to be like, oh, my God, they won't turn off Starfire.

Like, it's a different demo. But really, it's like the big focus will be maybe one big show and two big movies. That will be the conversation stuff. But some of these other smaller properties just can just reach wise. And yeah, I think, I think two, three properties, three solid big properties. of years is not a bad call. Yeah, and I think that right now there's DC and stuff that comes out that I'm not on my radar.

You know, that does happen already. Like the old, it's not like a new thing that it'd be like, well, that movie came out, I guess. What'd you think of that first look at the lanterns? I'm a huge Aaron Pierre fan after Rebel Ridge. I'd never seen them before and then Rebel Ridge felt like a John Stewart like that Netflix. Yeah. Movie. John Stewart, it literally felt like a John Stewart audition tape. Like the whole movie like that was like John Stewart for the whole time.

Like it didn't. That idea never left my mind in the credits rolled. It was like, that was a great. John Stewart meets Rambo movie. Um, and then I would never have pulled Kyle Chandler. Like, I love fancasting. And then it was really interesting. As soon as it was announced, I was like, I don't know. And then I started thinking about certain Hal Jordan stories. And I was like, oh, that really informs which take they're doing.

And that's really interesting. A more mature, Hal Jordan. More mature, more paternal, like a leader, um, someone that is not like starting their career. Because I think of Hal Jordan as like the hothead young pilot. Yeah. But there's so many stories where he's not. I actually feel like Ryan Reynolds wasn't bad idea. to go with.

Ideas, yeah. That's what I mean, like initially. Yeah. But idea? But initially, like, oh, actually, yeah, it's a good fit. Yeah. But, like, that's not Hald Jordan by the end of the career. Right.

So I think that's really interesting and that kind of informs a lot. So I like the image. We can see a little bit of the ring on, on Hale Jordan's hand. And it would allow them to maybe do like a period piece movie where they could do younger Hell Jordan. Yeah. Which I would never, because that'd be like a 90s movie. Yeah.

And I love the 90s. And you get Timothy Chalomey. Yeah. Finn Wolfhard. Yeah. All the names people always say. Nearly Bobby. Austin Butler

Michael be Jordan the cast of Stranger Things age 30 but like I do think obviously we don't know anything except the below the line crew and those two cast members and then they cast an astro

but like the below the line is so incredible I'm really excited I like that first image a lot because when you think of like oh your lantern show that they're saying it's like a true detective thing or whatever to start off we just got a gritty still

these guys are walking these guys are just walking on the road and only one's got a ring I thought that was interesting oh we didn't catch that hell jordan's got a ring but john stewart doesn't yeah I think it's a solid first look to really kind of sell you on a tone because like what they're going for grounded

I also am glad the first look isn't a paparazzi photo it's not paparazzi photo because remember we'll run in Deadpool they were shooting and then they were like we had to put that image up and like we were like oh god like it was just out because they were literally getting papped I'm glad they had control of this release who's making the show again like the lanterns yeah it is a show

Showrunner of Ozark, Chris Mundy. It is Damon Lindelof and Tom King. Lindelof's such a nerd. Like, he loves comics. Lindelof, I know it can be like hit or miss with certain people, but I think Lindelof's a genius. He's the only person I've interviewed that, um, challenge my comic knowledge. Yeah.

And he was the only one that I was like, oh, what do I, how do I find something that he isn't already buying? And that was such a gift because he's a weekly Wednesday warrior. So I was like, I got to find. And then something is killing the children. He hadn't heard of yet. Now it's huge. He led, uh, the charge on the Watchman show.

Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was right. Watchman plus Ozark plus Tom King. I'm not worried about lanterns. I feel like Landers are going to be a pretty dope. Yeah. And it's their idea.

Like those guys pitched and wanted to develop this together. Okay. So like that's beautiful. I do have a stray for you. Lobo as played by Jason Momoa is confirmed for the Supergirl Women of Tomorrow movie. Yes, I'm so excited. So yeah. I throw that.

The actual confirmation as opposed to the internet confirmation. But yeah, I'm really stoked for lanterns because of the team. I thought we said. no lobo before it's weird we were saying solo lobo yeah wow there's so much information that but not anything really knew that's like a furthering yeah that was wild because i was like uh-huh uh-huh well when you asked me like what was the dc news i was like they just like kind of like a lip seed they just moved along the sentence like we just know doing all that research though john thank you wow i thought we'd have more to talk about dc wise yeah

I mean, it's movies this year. I also, Superman's this year. I'm going to just say stuff. Guys, the confirmation about the Wonder Twins movie is revelatory. The confirmation that we're getting the hologram of Tupac as static shock is crazy. I think it's an interesting way to make people still pay attention to what's coming. because it's not it's like such unusual marketing for a whole new universe it's just this one guy telling us what's coming guys is Peter Saffrin's two guys telling us well we don't mean

you just think about James Gunn but it's these two guys who just keep coming back with like hey there's the process there's a progress on like 15 different things all that once so they just keep updating us and I don't know it's just It's like a weird time when you got like, usually when you got like Kevin Feige who's known to be remarkably secretive and want to keep things hush or they just wait to reveal something. It's an interesting word of mouth marketing thing to get people having a conversation about what's in development and to be excited about what's in development.

Yeah. Not like there's a trailer out or whatever. I don't know. It's, do you get it all where I'm going with this? I completely agree. But I like that. It's not.

copying another thing. No, I'm saying it's a positive thing because it's a weird thing of letting the audience in on the creative process. It feels like an old writer's room. Without letting the audience control the creative process. Well, I think it releases the pressure valve a little bit because it's like we know so much about what happens behind the scenes. And I feel like people lament that we know so much about what happens behind the scenes. And so now for them to be kind of chill and candid about like, yeah, we thought this would be further along.

And actually, this thing popped up out of nowhere. Like, I feel like that's actually kind of a better dialogue to have. I agree. To just be like, yeah, the authority, we're having, we're, we're chiseling it out, but we're having something, like, to say shit like that. As opposed to rumors. So weird. Yeah.

And like, the Twitter sphere being like, oh, my God, they can't get authority made. They're like, we're just having trouble. Yeah. Thought you guys should know. It's a very unique way to market. Clayface, not on the thing originally. Here we are. But nothing's come out yet.

Like, other than creature commandos. And I guess Blue Beetle, but nothing's really, until Superman, nothing's really like out there live action. And personally, I think it's smart. to wait until Superman to really unleash anything because then you get to have the Superman press tour actually have stuff to talk about too. Yeah.

Like don't blow your load in February. Yeah. He did say one thing about the overall interconnectivity that's just sort of note here. He said that, you know, compared to Marvel, for example, that's not part of the quote. The quote begins here. It isn't like their chapters of an overall story.

He continued, their characters that are part of an overall story, you know and he's got basically a six-year plan that will lead to the Avengers style culminative you know oh yeah that's the big one yeah that's why i did hear about that yeah that's right when talk about that yeah each individual project works is his own thing but yeah it's it's ultimately going to result in a six-year culmination and that's why people are being like canon not canon not it's it's each character's arc like a comic maybe it'll lead to dark superman and they have to defeat dark side in the future yeah with pregnant uh lowest lane

with Bruce and with Bruce Wayne's baby yeah that's what we want unprecedented kind of hilarious if he just did just did justice league too

without no no with him we just bring him back you just bring him back after all that it's said and done just bring him back I

I dig this path but I also I don't want everything to feel like what we've seen before I don't think it's going to be six years from now

no I feel like it'll get delayed I feel like he has a plan i like that he has a plan because you need you need a goal to try to hit right to stay on track but i you know readjusting and plans moving right is allowed and so i mean from what he's saying with that it was like oh six years from now because superman comes out this year we should get some culmination movie i don't feel like that's going to happen six years the batman too can't even get made man there's not i'm not gonna hey man

in 14 months yeah james day's out next me they can do it but just based off of how often James Gunn is pretty particular about like, no, we're not there yet with the script. Yeah. I feel like it's a, it's an okay thing if it's not out in six years from now. You can only release it once. I'm so glad he wasn't like, yeah, we're doing Justice League in six year. Right. Or like, we announced this and this, I was afraid to be another giant slate and I'd be like, no, don't get really states. Don't get like, because then it's just chipping away at what didn't happen. Yeah. Wow. That's really, that's not at all. Because that's what I expected to walk into because I didn't really pay attention to it. Yeah. That's what I expected to walk.

walk into with this conversation on that topic when John was Riffin that it was going to be like, oh, new this, new this, new this. And I'm like, oh, wow, this is just like progress updates. And that's, I mean, you asked me what I thought of them announcing so much. This is how you follow that up without shooting yourself in the foot. Yeah. Smart call. Anyway, that's it for DC on that chapter. The final chapter. Coy wants to talk about Timothy Shalbay. Timothy Shalbay. Biggest news of the week. Okay. This actually means a lot to me. Okay. The interview, sorry, the award speech at the SAG Awards, Timothy Chalemay got up and he went, you know, a lot of people don't like when people talk like this, but I want to be one of the greats. I aspire for greatness. This means a lot to me. And he wasn't belittling himself or trying to be overly humble. He's like, I want to be one of the greats. And he cited like great actors, Daniel DeLewis, Michael Phelps, great athletes, like, et cetera. And I thought this was an incredible speech. And he also said that this by no means means he's in. that caliber. Right. You said that. But then the internet's like, who does he think he is? Yeah. And I was

like, I have never seen such rampant insecurity from strangers than to yell at a kid going like, I'd like to be great. And I think it is a really big problem in society that we get mad at people aspiring. Like there was this popular thing about like, you know, lazy and not caring, like throwing it away. And then I've loved much like with Kendrick bringing back lyricism, bringing back hard work and effort and caring. Like, I feel like intelligence is being fought at a government level, so we shouldn't fight it at an individual level. I think intelligence should be rewarded.

And I think that trying should be rewarded. And I think there are people that are actively wanting us to not try so they can subjugate us. So when a kid comes out and makes a speech about wanting greatness and wanting himself to aspire for more and people react to that negatively, we are done as a society. if we think like who does he think he is wanting to be good and like it really affected my view

on the world and people and society and individuals we should never look at something wanting to aspire as a negative it felt like people being mad at Superman wanting to be about hope like let's look up why aren't we why are we judging someone for aspiring to anything I didn't realize there's all this

backlash there was yeah is the most nothing burger of a controversy right but like I'm I'm affected because anyone, one person would someone being like, oh, who does he think he is? I would just block immediately. The fact that we're more than one, it makes me worried.

I mean, if you're mad, this is clear you didn't hear the whole speech. Or you just don't understand like being motivated. Greats aspire to be, like, I guess it depends on how people are interpreting what it means to be great. Because what he's saying in that is he wants to be a great actor. He wants to be great at his craft. why would you not want, why would you watch an actor who doesn't want that? Right. Who wants to be mediocre.

Of course. If he's going to show up to set and be the leading actor, I hope whatever actor is a lead actor is like, I want to do a great job at this. So I'm going to put all my effort and homework into this. And I'm going to chisel the shit out of anything I need to do to turn in the best performance I could possibly turn in. It was like a Nike commercial for me.

Daniel Day Lewis is like, I want to be all right. Yeah, that's what I didn't understand about anyone thinking anything less than that. Like it felt like a Nike ad I wanted to like work out. Because he acknowledges the fact that it's like this might not be the most classy thing to say because normally you have to just be like super humble. And maybe like in terms of speech and communication, yeah, crediting a little bit more James Mangle. I didn't listen to the whole speech. I don't know if he did.

So correct me if I'm wrong, please. like crediting James Mangol crediting his other actors that help bring because every for a lead actor you're the lead and you got to give credit to all the supporting players who help bring that performance out of you and your director as well and the writer there's a lot you got to give credit to

but the material you have to work with and stuff because at the end of the day you are one piece still out of an entire machine when developing this movie at the same time there is I don't think there's anything wrong at all with him saying he wants to be great and I just realized I did the exact thing I'm trying not to do which is starting negative

I want to reframe. I love his speech because it inspired me and it made me want to do more. It's no different than when like Will Smith is inspiring. Yeah. I just, I love the speech. So before I saw any backlash, I was just like, yeah, this kid, Lassan Al-Gayib, doing it, getting after it. Athlete mentality is like the key to so much in life. But I hate that that's, that's stigmatized.

Like, that's what freaks me out. And that's what you mean about, I think that tie back into a couple of videos ago when you were talking about how masculinity is often just looked at as toxic masculinity. Yeah. Like there are times when like I feel fat right now and I hate it. But I know when I post like fitness stuff as I get back in a shape that I'm comfortable with, there will be people that are like, oh, why you being fatphobic by being happy with your body now? That shit scares me. Like that like kind of concept. And this feels like a mental version of that. Oh, when I get the six back, I don't give a shit. Oh, dude. I'm never wearing shirts. Fat ass up. Get a six back. I'm not tell those comments.

There will be a few shirtless episodes. Timothy Salome, Tim Cham did not mention James Mangold by name, but he did shout out Monica, Barbara, Edward Norton, and L. Fanning, as well as the entire cast, you know, for giving it their all and expressed his gratitude to them in the speech. He needs to feed off of what the other actors are giving them. I know enough about acting by no means a great actor or an aspiring great actor, but I know enough about... I do walk on to set and hope for mediocrity. I hope that. Is that always studying Philadelphia? It's Greg Alba? I'm very much like I understand basic principles and yeah basic principle is you have to feed off of what your other performers are giving you as well you know and so yeah it's important to think

I think it is important to thank your co-stars but I just wanted to flag the speech because it's been a lot to me so not coming even from a place of the reaction coming from a place of me which is what I want to do yeah I thought it was an incredible speech and I it has me I see him as a movie star now like I've always seen him as like a star and someone that could like open a movie and like clearly he's got the box office receipts something different between like a star and a movie star like there's something iconic about someone

that is like that driven that like leads to greatness and now like oh this kid's someone to watch i agree that when you when you grow in fame and success you have to practice humility it doesn't come naturally for a lot of people some people you really have to practice being humble it's a discipline weirdly enough as it is and is he a little cocky maybe i think i'd surmise he's a little cocky, but I remember Gary Oldman many years ago who was saying, you got to have a little bit of ego to survive in this business. You have to be delusional to work in this business. You have to be delusional.

I mean, you don't have to have a little bit of ego. You have to be out of your mind. You're this, you're the center of attention on what you're working on. Like, you, of course you want a little bit of attention. You want a little bit. You have to, there's no way I can fathom that you are the absolute most

humble person to the degree where you're like, no, I don't care about fame at all or attention. I just care about that. I'm like, you know, like, fame has come with the package of being a successful actor. Also, just the start of fame at, you know? Everything's working against you. You have to be a little delusional believe you can even get there. Yeah.

So I love it. Yeah. And I'd rather take an honest acceptance speech and then some feigning humility speech. That reads like, oh, what is that. Like, it's why I love Kieran Culkin so much, man. His awards journey has been fascinating. That dude is so himself. I think Shalema is an easy target, though.

Yeah, that's fair. People find them to be a really easy target. Like, even how I was talking at the beginning about the echo chamber. with Kathleen Kennedy. I used to have that with Timothy Chalame in a weird way of like I know he's a good actor

but why is there a part of me that doesn't like it? I don't know why but yeah I'm like calling him by your name he's going to call it by her name I love him to call him her name I wasn't a huge fan of Wonka

but even in that movie I remember the first like 20, 30 minutes being like he didn't really buy in this but then eventually I got really pulled into what he was doing yeah

he was doomed dude And look at everything we have just in those movies alone. Those are three very different genres of film. Yeah. Have you seen a complete unknown? No, I haven't. Okay.

And he's led these genre of films. Yeah. The guy is a star. The guy can do a, he's diverse. He was also practicing Bob Dylan's songs on the set of Dune. Like, he was developing this for five and a half years. Yeah. He's not old.

Five and a half years is a huge chunk of your life. Enjoy the victory lap. He understands the stakes of crafting a, a biopic performance. He's playing Bob Dylan. He understood it. So by all means, aspire to be great, always. I'd hate to be, if you used to stop aspiring to be great, you start going backwards, I think. Yeah. Especially in a business like this. Yeah. I think sedentary life is not healthy for anything, much less something in that field. I'm very big on like, it's called trying to be great, but it's just, you want to be better. Yeah, every day. You got to,

you want to try to improve and be better. Yeah. So. So I'm going to, the gym after this. I got by tri-for-arm day. That's not I'm taking a three-hour nap. Nice. Nice. Working your mental health. That I'll be stressed out.

I bet you run out of time. Everything else. And it won't be done. And I get to bed at four in the morning. This is to go out on Saturday. You'll be mad at it. The algorithm's like, that's not when this show drops. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it's the move. I want to be okay. I want to be adequate. I want to be mediocre. I aspire for adequacy. Yes. That's what I'm shooting for.

Not the moon, not the stars. The crust. I'm already there. That is a fascinating point, huh? You say I want to be great. And people get upset. It's because the average person shies away from being great. The average person's so afraid of failure.

But I'm like, most successful people, of course, have a fear of failure, but they kind of embrace it. I also think there's a fear of standing out that people have. And thus, you don't do anything to stand out. And then you get mad at people that have. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I would never say, don't be. afraid to fail, I'd say embrace

failure, you know? Because you talked, you said something earlier, I had never heard that. You learned from loss, not victory. And I've heard you learn from failure, not success. Not a version of saying it, right? So, yeah, just be, don't be afraid to fail. Do you exactly what I said, not to say? But yeah, I, I, I, that was

my only thing this week that I was like, I'm gonna, that's the only thing that pop culture happened this week that I think will actually stick with me for a long time. Because when news ebbs and flows it's whatever like but i i'll be more likely to rewatch a minute and half of his speech and be inspired by it than like do you remember that week when they casually said maybe kathling kennedy's gone or that week when the brusso brothers were like it's good movie i'm making like that's not but like an actual moment of a movie star feeling emboldened and like inspiring others that's exciting to me yeah all right well shit well that's that's gonna do it

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And Timothy Salome, a little snoddy, 12-year-old boy. Real rejects. We're sincere, always. We knew that people have this view that somehow we have been pitted against each other, Gunn's said. It's odd to have someone who you're friendly with in real life be the guy that is positioned as your Lex Luthor. Or I'm his Lex Luthor. It's just a weird dynamic that's been created between factions online. Sometimes they talk about different things. It's crazy.

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