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WINNIE THE POOH: BLOOD AND HONEY (2023) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

March 25, 20240 comments♥ 0
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01:15I'm Roxanne. Anything else?No, you want to tell the people.You rhymed well.Good job.Drippy moose.Ron Joxy.Let's go.Let's go.
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01:46Roxanne!While the credits are rolling,while it is fresh,while the honey continues to dry on this experience.What did you think of Winnie the Pooh-bloodin honey?I was nervous you were going to ask me that.What question would you like instead?What are you doing this weekend?
02:09What are you doing this weekend, Roxanne?Let's get a full itinerary, spare no detail.Listen, I paid attention the entire time.I did too.And that says something.Like, I wanted to know, you heard me, where's this person?Where's this?Where's this?
02:28What's doing this?Where's it coming from?Are they coming behind?Are they going to be there or whatever?Obviously, I was engaged.Sure.Do I think this premise could be unreal?Oh, I think they got immortal.
02:43Sorry to interrupt you.I see Andrew Freeman's name.I think they got some immortal masks for this movie.Anyway.What's an immortal mask?They're like high grade silicone, you know, effects masks and stuff.So I'm going to venture a guess that Winnie and Piglet at least were probablywere probably their work
03:00I'm sorryoh shot on location in EnglandUK Winnie the Poot will returnWe got a Marvel endingGot a Marvel endingAnyway sorry I interrupted youRoxanne what I don't remember where I wasYou were telling me about your deep deep love
03:19What was the thing I had just said?Well you were talking about like the questions that it would bring youAnd I'm wanting to know whereThe premise I think the premise wouldcould be amazing I this is going to be such I've never said this on a show before I feel so guiltyalready in advance I think I could have written this script amazing truly what do you mean they leftno stone of possibility unturned I really wish they made every reference possible to the sourcematerial I wish that I they had sent this to me as a script doctor or something so because I have
03:55notes and I genuinelyI genuinely think thatwith a few adjustmentsthis could have beenhorrifyingor a few adjustments this could have beenhysterical. Totally I haveno idea what we just watched
04:11I wantevery second I tried to convince myselfyou love this, love the movie, just loveit, just love it instead ofdeciding not to just decide to love itbecause there were so many thingsabout it that are like blood andbut Winnie the Pooh.
04:27Like, yes, yes,slasher, Winnie the Pooh movie.Yes, sign me up.There was just some choices that were madethat made it difficult.It was like this movie was fighting against me.A little bit.This was a fascinating experience
04:42because this was much okayerthan I expected, I guess.I sort of expected this to be very bad.And it's more competentin ways,and it's like more fine in ways than I had initially anticipated.However, I think this movie does miss out on a couple flourishes that could make it a truly guilty pleasureor truly like great for what it's trying to be, but in this case it's only trying to be a slat,
05:21like, you know, some kind of gory slasher type movie, monster movie.sort of. So likewhile this wasn'tas incompetent at being those thingsas I had expected from the trailerand some of the early feedback and whatnotI do wishthat they had gotten
05:40I mean like there are certain things that just as a movie they could haveimproved on but for my taste especially comingfrom you know like Winnie the Pooh in theA.A. Milne stories and then the later Disneystuff like was some of the stuffI watched the most growing up as a kidso even just likeThe themes and flourishes, I feel like there's so much there that you can pull from and use and have, you know, everybody, I think, is involved in this wing of popular culture and who grew up, you know, in the past 20 years or more, like, has some association to Winnie the Pooh.
06:14So, like, I feel like this is your opportunity to go ham pulling in, you know, stuff from the stories, stuff from, I mean, it's trickier pulling from Disney, obviously.things that harken to that.And I think here they pretty muchjust went with like, we got pigletand we got poo.And we do the draw. Like I like the drawing motif.I like they acknowledgeeverything up front and they give you this
06:39basic setup. I feel like, yeah, Christopher Robin wasgrowing up and he went away and thecharacters were all left alone and theyfell into despair and they, you know,here's the dark fairy tale version. Andlike, I like that as a prolog and I wishthey kept the dark fairy tale vibethroughout. Because I don't think you would
06:55need like an excess ofadditional or differentproduction values to do that? I feel likeit would just be in the flourishes of the scriptand in certain dialogue referencelike they say certain little thingshe calls them a silly old bear at somepoint. You know you have
07:11the 100 acre wood. You have referenceto other characterswho I'm sure if thisI assume that this was low budgetenough and probably garnered enough attentionto get a sequel in theworst. So my really? Myassumption would be I don't know for certain but I think probably
07:29yeah look into that because I'm curious about that I feel like a sequel would be theiropportunity to bring in many more of the characters I wonder if they didn't have therights to all of them yet because maybe they were created at different times andthey just finally got the clearance for whatever it is already in the worksblood and honey too okay so here's what I will say what I think that's that'sthat's a curious thing though about the rights because like a lotlot of those characters do cut like a character like what's his name gopher uh or it's not badgersthey're there are characters like that they were created for the disney versions that would probably
08:08be impossible in the current tigger wasn't but yeah like tigger and rabbit and owl and like those characterswe had reference to all those except for tigger yeah and i think i don't know if maybe even like the one of thepeople involved tweeted when it was coming out like oh we'll get there we'll bring them in the next one that'sBut I full-heartedly expect that, you know, yeah, if a Sequin one is coming, they'll bring in those characters that people want to see.And I would imagine, actually, that, again, if this was doing more with its, with the gift of the public domain, Winnie the Pooh.If this was doing more with the actual Winnie the Pooh part of its title, I feel like that would actually be a conscientious choice to build out a franchise, go, yeah, we know you want to see this character, but we're not going to show them to you just yet.You know, like, as much as teasing, as franchise teasing during a part one can be tacky.I feel like this movie, a movie like this is in a position where you should kind of swing for those fences.
09:04I would have loved to see the characters that we know and love traits in a horror movie.So, like, Pooh, or Piglet is a follower.And I would have loved to, and is timid.So I would have loved to see Pooh kind of do.direct piglet on what he has to do and see piglet not really want to go along with it.Exactly.I would have loved to see Owl try to use his smarts to talk everybody into like,okay, realistically, how long are we going to do with this for?
09:36You know, like them taking away the vocal choices.I get why they did it.But I would have loved to see Tigger be bouncing around, like whatever energetic, whatever is going on.I would have loved to see Eeyore this throw him into a depression.Like, I don't want to do this anymore, guys.Like, you know, I would have loved to see the embodiment of the different characters.Who and Piglet were pretty much the same in this movie.There's just two big hulking killer guys.
10:02And, you know, like, I would have loved to see how if we were going to go,I like the, even the setup of, like, we turned on Eeyore because we needed to eat.Or we, and I wish it wasn't Eeyore, you know, I wish it was somebody else.Yeah, yeah.Like, we turned on owl because he was getting mouthy and trying to go.explained to us why we shouldn't do this. We did. Whatever it is. But then I wanted to seethe rest of them, now that they've made these choices, what does life look like and see thatstruggle, which would have brought, I know that sounds so goofy, but it would have brought
10:36depth to this in a way that they're lacking because we just saw two big mass people. Italmost felt like watching Halloween, but it's supposed to be poo. So it was kind of weird.even when you shouted evil dies tonightI was like exactlylike what the helland then I would have loved tohave had any feelingsfor these characters
10:59anybody other than Christopherlike some kind of other connectionor some kind of reasonwhy we're you know we brought in thatstalker story from Rio which is supposed to make us feelfor her which of course I didbut then it kind of even that is justsome random detail right
11:16it could easily have not been thattoo. Like, I guess that's why she brought the gun, but instead...It's a plot mechanic.What I would like to see is like, okay, if we're going to go with that story, it's likeshe's been taking self-defense class, has been teaching the girl's self-defense.That's why they're all prepped and ready against her stalker, and then it ends up being againstthem, and we see these women kick the living crap out of the characters, whatever.Like, there's just so many ways. I'm rewriting the movie. You shouldn't, after a movie, be like,
11:43oh, okay, these are the 15 things I would have done. But that's exactly as we were goingthroughout the whole movie. I couldn't help, but I was just like, what if they had donethis instead? This is a movie that, yeah, you see, and it's constantly giving you thesedifferent, it just, yeah, gives you a whole bunch of ideas of how you could do it slightlydifferently and even more fully embrace the concept. Because I do feel like the structuringof the movie, I feel like there's a version that can work the way they did it here, but I feellike the structuring of the movie is kind of a metaphor for the movie itself. It's like you getthis prologue with Christopher Robin that feels like it's
12:17committed to the flourishes again of the source material.And then after the prologue is done,and we get the title card, we're pretty much going into just like any,this could be any slasher movie.It just so happens now that it's Winnie DePoo.And I'm like, okay, fine, maybe you could have done thiswhere all the girls have.Like, again, the one girl with the glasses felt like she was
12:39supposed to be based on a piglet type cat.She's the only one of the bunch of themwho has like a personality that's a bit different,aside from Maria, I guess the two of them.She's like Maria's sidekick kind of, yeah.Yeah, and she's more timid and mousy as a character.So part of me was like, oh, okay, maybe somewhere down the line that could have been an idea.And maybe you could have had like, you know, the more wild one is kind of like Tigger or something.
13:01And then you have a know-a-all who's a bit like owl.And you have a, you know, sort of self-obsessed person who's kind of like rabbit or whatever.But, you know, they're just kind of a bunch of people.And it's like, I don't begrudge.The movie certainly I'm happy that they attempted to give everybody some kind ofcharacter. You've got the couple who's trying to fixthings, and you've got, you know, this girldealing with her stalker. And then,
13:23you know, you've got a friend who's lateand a friend who's taken selfie.Like, I don't know.It's so funny because it reminds you of other horror movies and, like,there are moments where I was thinking of Evil Dead. And I thinkcoming from a children's book where things come to life,I think you could have easily borrowed from thatplaybook. It's certainly, like, you pointed
13:41out at one point, feels like Texas Chainsaw.And in a lot of moments, you're in thesesort of not the same as a Texastype environment. You are inthese sort of like run down backwoodsthat do have these sort of Texaschainsaw style just sort ofdilapidated eerieness.
13:58So yeah, it's like it's a movieexperience I'm real torn on because I'm likeas just a straightforward low budget slashermovie, I'm like yeah, there's some effective camera workhere and there. There's some decent lighting choiceshere and there. Some of the kills. Some of the killsare pretty brutal and they did a prettysolid mix at least from this
14:13viewing experience in my takingin a bit of practical effects andCG effects when they are appropriate and likeyeah there are times where during the reaction be likeah CG blood but you know like there aremovies that rely more heavily on CG blood like againI almost expected this to be laughably badand the trouble with it is that it's not
14:33so bad that you can just like laugh your ass offand like get lost in the rideof that but it's also not so good at being what it's doingthat you're like surprisedimpressed by it, you're just sort of like, yeah, these actors all, for the most part, showed up.The direction is less flat than a movie like this.It's like you don't necessarily have to be, you know, a great stylist to grab a marketable idea like this and get it made.You know, it's like just having the script on hand at the right time could get a movie like this made.
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18:35Because I've been wanting to see it.I was curious about the premise.Do you know what the budget was on this?And do you know what the Rotten Tomato score was?I'm honestly more curious about the audience score.Very clearly, the critics are going to just annihilate this, I think.But we'll see.Yeah.
18:53And I mean, you know, I feel like this is also, this is one of those movies where, like, the regular critics, I'm sure, would not be about it.If this budget is in the hundreds of thousands, I'm going to be pretty stoked for it.If this budget's in the millions, I'm going to be pretty bummed for it.Yeah. audience score is.Okay, so the tomato meter is a three...50% audience score.And I think actually like whenever, whether it's critics or audience,I think 50 is an interesting rotten tomato score always,
19:20because to me that says...Devicesive.Completely divisive, yeah.And like, I could understand how somebody might like this,but I also understand how you would leave this thinkingthat it's not much better than a lot of other schlock out thereand that it misses the mark on embracing.It's, you know, again, it's premise.
19:36I want to give this movie credit right now for the first.time in this whole review this is a hundred thousand dollar budget yeah they did make this look likea way more expensive movie they did in terms of locations um how many cast members they had like ididn't think that poo and piglet looked particularly how i would have wanted them designed but for thisbudget not too shabby um for their action scenes and their choreography uh their fight choreographyfor this to be a $100,000budget, I actually thinkthat they made this look like
20:12a millionmovie. Sure. Which youalways got to give credit there.Sothat, I'm glad to see that that'swhat the budget on this movie was.My biggest issues still are with the scriptand that's for free. So
20:28I'm not saying scripts are free, but you know what I mean?Yeah.Changing story.There are certain things that I think we could have done for the samebudget.but $100,000you got to give them credit or creditso it's hard to make a movie
20:41and they did it for 100K which is pretty goodyeah I don't begrudge themcertain conscientious choicesbased off the budget and yeahit certainly feelsbigger than that and it's a movie thatwhileI maybe hoped that
20:58this would have moreof a tongue planted in its cheekI guess I appreciated thatthis movie to at leastan extent everybody took it seriously enough to kind of sell it like we were constantly sitting therebeing like you know like even when the movie isn't helping the performance is like all the performers forthe most part are committed and giving it their all and like a shoot like this you mostly have tospend time in anguished emotions and stuff like that and again i've i've just seen movies like this
21:28with way worse acting across the board and uh and yeah like there are cliches and there are likeweird threads like it's not particularly wellpaced and it's not particularly wellproportioned as a storyand there are deeps it's like I'm constantlytorn between like I'm glad you decided to putthe idea of this in here I wish you would paint itoff somehow or made it like an actual part of the
21:48story so that there feels likethere are really characters here instead ofyou know just pinning littleyour tales worth of detailonto people so that we have someassociation with them butfor what it is again I'mkind of right in the middle there
22:03too. It's like I had fun, certainly.I didn't have like the wildest timeand it is very obvious to me how youcould do this movie a bunch of different waysand, yeah, haveall of the grits and all of the nastiness and the meanness of thisbut you could also have, you know, some funand some humor in a different way and really
22:22play on, I think any time you're going backto childhood characters and mining horrorout of that, you have atailor-made opportunity forlike twisted, dementedcraziness and just likethat vibe, not necessarilysaying you need massive, expensive
22:38set pieces to achieve that, but I feellike, you know, there is an element ofhumorousness that might have been niceto see in here somewhere. But, you know, this certainlyseems like something to build upon. Like, I wouldbe much more interestedin the second movie based offthis experience than I thought I would be
22:53going in. Like, this isn't quite asflat and uninspired as Iexpected. It just could be way moreinspired than it is. Yeah, yeah.I'm totally with you on that.I would definitely watch the second movie.I kind of would hope that they would, like, the second one would be a reboot.I know.
23:12I want piglet.I don't want piglet to be gone.I want the looks to be a little different.I feel like they can mumbo-jumbo their way back into having a piglet.And yeah, like, I don't know, like the look of the masks and stuff like that.Like, they serviceably get the job done because as long as they're a bear and a pig, it's fine.But I was sort of, I was constantly chewing on the same.the whole, like, pooh's face just looks like skin, but he's a bear, or at least a teddy bear.
23:40So I feel like he ought to be maybe fluffy, but maybe that doesn't look good.I don't know why they wound up with this, but I was kind of, like, curious about that.And then piglet is just like an actual, like, boarhead pig.Yeah, or like multiple fangs and things.And, like, again, fine.But that, yeah, there's just more they could have done to make them feel like the character.Rewrite it so they were humans and then they got these masks stuck to their faces or something one night.Like, because they just look, their bodies were so human.
24:07Yeah, and that's another thing.It's like, if you could have given some kind of flourish of like,maybe you shoot at one of them and like fluff comes out or something.Yeah, it's like there's some kind of hybrid monstrosity now.Like, there's so much room, I think, to maneuver in terms of getting fantastical with a story like thisbecause they're his imaginary friends that aren't as imaginary as we thought.But, like, again, there's so much wiggle room in there to create something that would be, yeah,both in the spirit, fun, and also just as grungy as they want it to be here.
24:37Super smart of the filmmakers to attach their brand to Winnie the Pooh,because if it had not, I don't think this movie would have done anything.So the fact that they thought to do that,that they did have that backstory,that we had those sketches, which I thought was cool.And they came up with the concept and made it look like this for 100K.Good job on all of that.Not too sad.
24:58For number two, I think we really need to focus on storyand getting those pieces togetherand really giving the actors something to do there.Yeah, something actually.They didn't ask for my notes, but those were my notes.Yeah, yeah.Make it better or make it way worse.Yeah, way worse would work too.
25:17Yeah, like you want this to be liketo one extreme or another, I guess,is what you would hope for.So I hope they can build on this,but guys, what did you think?Leave us your thoughts on the way of the poop, blood, and honey.You got anything else before we hit the road?No, honey.
25:32No honey.No honey.Just the blood that pours through our beating hearts for cinema.Leave us your thoughts, my friends.Leave us your rewrites of the story.Leave us your hopes and dreams for part two.And we will catch you next time in the 100-acre wood.Peace.
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27:00with his wife's beheaded facebecause the chicken was alreadysmeared all over her face. So he hadto have proof that it wasnot theit was not the second breast of yourprotocol. He went therecops get called on him because
27:16of course in thisin a sensitivesnowflake culture we live and you can'tjust walk in with your wife's beheadedhead face anymoreit's just not okay to doapparently for some reason the woke police just want to take everything so next thing you know helicopters areoutside and all el polo loco had to do and frankly i see his point all they had to do was give him
27:41the second breast maybe give him a third so that way you make up for the trip that he had to dothere's only one lpoly local is there and it's like a 20 minute drive plus traffic it was like an hourtrip in total man anyone would be had their wife in a situation like that yeah i have sometimesSometimes people just go, wow, they must be crazy, but something's going to ask, like, what led them to that situation, though?And usually, logic will outweigh the emotional decision here.Oh, sure.So, Ricardo, don't worry, man.I'm taking all the Patreon funds that you have donor or away, and I'm going to be contributing to your bailout money or your escape plan.
28:18Whatever it takes.Whatever it takes.So, yeah.Happy screen break, buddy.Thank you.You know,