The Reel Rejects - WINNIE THE POOH: BLOOD AND HONEY (2023) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm Roxanne. Anything else? No, you want to tell the people. You rhymed well. Good job. Drippy moose. Ron Joxy. Let's go. Let's go.

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Starting point is 00:01:46 Roxanne! While the credits are rolling, while it is fresh, while the honey continues to dry on this experience. What did you think of Winnie the Pooh-bloodin honey? I was nervous you were going to ask me that. What question would you like instead? What are you doing this weekend?

Starting point is 00:02:09 What are you doing this weekend, Roxanne? Let's get a full itinerary, spare no detail. Listen, I paid attention the entire time. I did too. And that says something. Like, I wanted to know, you heard me, where's this person? Where's this? Where's this?

Starting point is 00:02:28 What's doing this? Where's it coming from? Are they coming behind? Are they going to be there or whatever? Obviously, I was engaged. Sure. Do I think this premise could be unreal? Oh, I think they got immortal.

Starting point is 00:02:43 Sorry to interrupt you. I see Andrew Freeman's name. I think they got some immortal masks for this movie. Anyway. What's an immortal mask? They're like high grade silicone, you know, effects masks and stuff. So I'm going to venture a guess that Winnie and Piglet at least were probably were probably their work

Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm sorry oh shot on location in England UK Winnie the Poot will return We got a Marvel ending Got a Marvel ending Anyway sorry I interrupted you Roxanne what I don't remember where I was You were telling me about your deep deep love

Starting point is 00:03:19 What was the thing I had just said? Well you were talking about like the questions that it would bring you And I'm wanting to know where The premise I think the premise would could be amazing I this is going to be such I've never said this on a show before I feel so guilty already in advance I think I could have written this script amazing truly what do you mean they left no stone of possibility unturned I really wish they made every reference possible to the source material I wish that I they had sent this to me as a script doctor or something so because I have

Starting point is 00:03:55 notes and I genuinely I genuinely think that with a few adjustments this could have been horrifying or a few adjustments this could have been hysterical. Totally I have no idea what we just watched

Starting point is 00:04:11 I want every second I tried to convince myself you love this, love the movie, just love it, just love it instead of deciding not to just decide to love it because there were so many things about it that are like blood and but Winnie the Pooh.

Starting point is 00:04:27 Like, yes, yes, slasher, Winnie the Pooh movie. Yes, sign me up. There was just some choices that were made that made it difficult. It was like this movie was fighting against me. A little bit. This was a fascinating experience

Starting point is 00:04:42 because this was much okayer than I expected, I guess. I sort of expected this to be very bad. And it's more competent in ways, and it's like more fine in ways than I had initially anticipated. However, I think this movie does miss out on a couple flourishes that could make it a truly guilty pleasure or truly like great for what it's trying to be, but in this case it's only trying to be a slat,

Starting point is 00:05:21 like, you know, some kind of gory slasher type movie, monster movie. sort of. So like while this wasn't as incompetent at being those things as I had expected from the trailer and some of the early feedback and whatnot I do wish that they had gotten

Starting point is 00:05:40 I mean like there are certain things that just as a movie they could have improved on but for my taste especially coming from you know like Winnie the Pooh in the A.A. Milne stories and then the later Disney stuff like was some of the stuff I watched the most growing up as a kid so even just like The themes and flourishes, I feel like there's so much there that you can pull from and use and have, you know, everybody, I think, is involved in this wing of popular culture and who grew up, you know, in the past 20 years or more, like, has some association to Winnie the Pooh.

Starting point is 00:06:14 So, like, I feel like this is your opportunity to go ham pulling in, you know, stuff from the stories, stuff from, I mean, it's trickier pulling from Disney, obviously. things that harken to that. And I think here they pretty much just went with like, we got piglet and we got poo. And we do the draw. Like I like the drawing motif. I like they acknowledge everything up front and they give you this

Starting point is 00:06:39 basic setup. I feel like, yeah, Christopher Robin was growing up and he went away and the characters were all left alone and they fell into despair and they, you know, here's the dark fairy tale version. And like, I like that as a prolog and I wish they kept the dark fairy tale vibe throughout. Because I don't think you would

Starting point is 00:06:55 need like an excess of additional or different production values to do that? I feel like it would just be in the flourishes of the script and in certain dialogue reference like they say certain little things he calls them a silly old bear at some point. You know you have

Starting point is 00:07:11 the 100 acre wood. You have reference to other characters who I'm sure if this I assume that this was low budget enough and probably garnered enough attention to get a sequel in the worst. So my really? My assumption would be I don't know for certain but I think probably

Starting point is 00:07:29 yeah look into that because I'm curious about that I feel like a sequel would be their opportunity to bring in many more of the characters I wonder if they didn't have the rights to all of them yet because maybe they were created at different times and they just finally got the clearance for whatever it is already in the works blood and honey too okay so here's what I will say what I think that's that's that's a curious thing though about the rights because like a lot lot of those characters do cut like a character like what's his name gopher uh or it's not badgers they're there are characters like that they were created for the disney versions that would probably

Starting point is 00:08:08 be impossible in the current tigger wasn't but yeah like tigger and rabbit and owl and like those characters we had reference to all those except for tigger yeah and i think i don't know if maybe even like the one of the people involved tweeted when it was coming out like oh we'll get there we'll bring them in the next one that's But I full-heartedly expect that, you know, yeah, if a Sequin one is coming, they'll bring in those characters that people want to see. And I would imagine, actually, that, again, if this was doing more with its, with the gift of the public domain, Winnie the Pooh. If this was doing more with the actual Winnie the Pooh part of its title, I feel like that would actually be a conscientious choice to build out a franchise, go, yeah, we know you want to see this character, but we're not going to show them to you just yet. You know, like, as much as teasing, as franchise teasing during a part one can be tacky. I feel like this movie, a movie like this is in a position where you should kind of swing for those fences.

Starting point is 00:09:04 I would have loved to see the characters that we know and love traits in a horror movie. So, like, Pooh, or Piglet is a follower. And I would have loved to, and is timid. So I would have loved to see Pooh kind of do. direct piglet on what he has to do and see piglet not really want to go along with it. Exactly. I would have loved to see Owl try to use his smarts to talk everybody into like, okay, realistically, how long are we going to do with this for?

Starting point is 00:09:36 You know, like them taking away the vocal choices. I get why they did it. But I would have loved to see Tigger be bouncing around, like whatever energetic, whatever is going on. I would have loved to see Eeyore this throw him into a depression. Like, I don't want to do this anymore, guys. Like, you know, I would have loved to see the embodiment of the different characters. Who and Piglet were pretty much the same in this movie. There's just two big hulking killer guys.

Starting point is 00:10:02 And, you know, like, I would have loved to see how if we were going to go, I like the, even the setup of, like, we turned on Eeyore because we needed to eat. Or we, and I wish it wasn't Eeyore, you know, I wish it was somebody else. Yeah, yeah. Like, we turned on owl because he was getting mouthy and trying to go. explained to us why we shouldn't do this. We did. Whatever it is. But then I wanted to see the rest of them, now that they've made these choices, what does life look like and see that struggle, which would have brought, I know that sounds so goofy, but it would have brought

Starting point is 00:10:36 depth to this in a way that they're lacking because we just saw two big mass people. It almost felt like watching Halloween, but it's supposed to be poo. So it was kind of weird. even when you shouted evil dies tonight I was like exactly like what the hell and then I would have loved to have had any feelings for these characters

Starting point is 00:10:59 anybody other than Christopher like some kind of other connection or some kind of reason why we're you know we brought in that stalker story from Rio which is supposed to make us feel for her which of course I did but then it kind of even that is just some random detail right

Starting point is 00:11:16 it could easily have not been that too. Like, I guess that's why she brought the gun, but instead... It's a plot mechanic. What I would like to see is like, okay, if we're going to go with that story, it's like she's been taking self-defense class, has been teaching the girl's self-defense. That's why they're all prepped and ready against her stalker, and then it ends up being against them, and we see these women kick the living crap out of the characters, whatever. Like, there's just so many ways. I'm rewriting the movie. You shouldn't, after a movie, be like,

Starting point is 00:11:43 oh, okay, these are the 15 things I would have done. But that's exactly as we were going throughout the whole movie. I couldn't help, but I was just like, what if they had done this instead? This is a movie that, yeah, you see, and it's constantly giving you these different, it just, yeah, gives you a whole bunch of ideas of how you could do it slightly differently and even more fully embrace the concept. Because I do feel like the structuring of the movie, I feel like there's a version that can work the way they did it here, but I feel like the structuring of the movie is kind of a metaphor for the movie itself. It's like you get this prologue with Christopher Robin that feels like it's

Starting point is 00:12:17 committed to the flourishes again of the source material. And then after the prologue is done, and we get the title card, we're pretty much going into just like any, this could be any slasher movie. It just so happens now that it's Winnie DePoo. And I'm like, okay, fine, maybe you could have done this where all the girls have. Like, again, the one girl with the glasses felt like she was

Starting point is 00:12:39 supposed to be based on a piglet type cat. She's the only one of the bunch of them who has like a personality that's a bit different, aside from Maria, I guess the two of them. She's like Maria's sidekick kind of, yeah. Yeah, and she's more timid and mousy as a character. So part of me was like, oh, okay, maybe somewhere down the line that could have been an idea. And maybe you could have had like, you know, the more wild one is kind of like Tigger or something.

Starting point is 00:13:01 And then you have a know-a-all who's a bit like owl. And you have a, you know, sort of self-obsessed person who's kind of like rabbit or whatever. But, you know, they're just kind of a bunch of people. And it's like, I don't begrudge. The movie certainly I'm happy that they attempted to give everybody some kind of character. You've got the couple who's trying to fix things, and you've got, you know, this girl dealing with her stalker. And then,

Starting point is 00:13:23 you know, you've got a friend who's late and a friend who's taken selfie. Like, I don't know. It's so funny because it reminds you of other horror movies and, like, there are moments where I was thinking of Evil Dead. And I think coming from a children's book where things come to life, I think you could have easily borrowed from that playbook. It's certainly, like, you pointed

Starting point is 00:13:41 out at one point, feels like Texas Chainsaw. And in a lot of moments, you're in these sort of not the same as a Texas type environment. You are in these sort of like run down backwoods that do have these sort of Texas chainsaw style just sort of dilapidated eerieness.

Starting point is 00:13:58 So yeah, it's like it's a movie experience I'm real torn on because I'm like as just a straightforward low budget slasher movie, I'm like yeah, there's some effective camera work here and there. There's some decent lighting choices here and there. Some of the kills. Some of the kills are pretty brutal and they did a pretty solid mix at least from this

Starting point is 00:14:13 viewing experience in my taking in a bit of practical effects and CG effects when they are appropriate and like yeah there are times where during the reaction be like ah CG blood but you know like there are movies that rely more heavily on CG blood like again I almost expected this to be laughably bad and the trouble with it is that it's not

Starting point is 00:14:33 so bad that you can just like laugh your ass off and like get lost in the ride of that but it's also not so good at being what it's doing that you're like surprised impressed by it, you're just sort of like, yeah, these actors all, for the most part, showed up. The direction is less flat than a movie like this. It's like you don't necessarily have to be, you know, a great stylist to grab a marketable idea like this and get it made. You know, it's like just having the script on hand at the right time could get a movie like this made.

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Starting point is 00:18:35 Because I've been wanting to see it. I was curious about the premise. Do you know what the budget was on this? And do you know what the Rotten Tomato score was? I'm honestly more curious about the audience score. Very clearly, the critics are going to just annihilate this, I think. But we'll see. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:53 And I mean, you know, I feel like this is also, this is one of those movies where, like, the regular critics, I'm sure, would not be about it. If this budget is in the hundreds of thousands, I'm going to be pretty stoked for it. If this budget's in the millions, I'm going to be pretty bummed for it. Yeah. audience score is. Okay, so the tomato meter is a three... 50% audience score. And I think actually like whenever, whether it's critics or audience, I think 50 is an interesting rotten tomato score always,

Starting point is 00:19:20 because to me that says... Devicesive. Completely divisive, yeah. And like, I could understand how somebody might like this, but I also understand how you would leave this thinking that it's not much better than a lot of other schlock out there and that it misses the mark on embracing. It's, you know, again, it's premise.

Starting point is 00:19:36 I want to give this movie credit right now for the first. time in this whole review this is a hundred thousand dollar budget yeah they did make this look like a way more expensive movie they did in terms of locations um how many cast members they had like i didn't think that poo and piglet looked particularly how i would have wanted them designed but for this budget not too shabby um for their action scenes and their choreography uh their fight choreography for this to be a $100,000 budget, I actually think that they made this look like

Starting point is 00:20:12 a million movie. Sure. Which you always got to give credit there. So that, I'm glad to see that that's what the budget on this movie was. My biggest issues still are with the script and that's for free. So

Starting point is 00:20:28 I'm not saying scripts are free, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Changing story. There are certain things that I think we could have done for the same budget. but $100,000 you got to give them credit or credit so it's hard to make a movie

Starting point is 00:20:41 and they did it for 100K which is pretty good yeah I don't begrudge them certain conscientious choices based off the budget and yeah it certainly feels bigger than that and it's a movie that while I maybe hoped that

Starting point is 00:20:58 this would have more of a tongue planted in its cheek I guess I appreciated that this movie to at least an extent everybody took it seriously enough to kind of sell it like we were constantly sitting there being like you know like even when the movie isn't helping the performance is like all the performers for the most part are committed and giving it their all and like a shoot like this you mostly have to spend time in anguished emotions and stuff like that and again i've i've just seen movies like this

Starting point is 00:21:28 with way worse acting across the board and uh and yeah like there are cliches and there are like weird threads like it's not particularly well paced and it's not particularly well proportioned as a story and there are deeps it's like I'm constantly torn between like I'm glad you decided to put the idea of this in here I wish you would paint it off somehow or made it like an actual part of the

Starting point is 00:21:48 story so that there feels like there are really characters here instead of you know just pinning little your tales worth of detail onto people so that we have some association with them but for what it is again I'm kind of right in the middle there

Starting point is 00:22:03 too. It's like I had fun, certainly. I didn't have like the wildest time and it is very obvious to me how you could do this movie a bunch of different ways and, yeah, have all of the grits and all of the nastiness and the meanness of this but you could also have, you know, some fun and some humor in a different way and really

Starting point is 00:22:22 play on, I think any time you're going back to childhood characters and mining horror out of that, you have a tailor-made opportunity for like twisted, demented craziness and just like that vibe, not necessarily saying you need massive, expensive

Starting point is 00:22:38 set pieces to achieve that, but I feel like, you know, there is an element of humorousness that might have been nice to see in here somewhere. But, you know, this certainly seems like something to build upon. Like, I would be much more interested in the second movie based off this experience than I thought I would be

Starting point is 00:22:53 going in. Like, this isn't quite as flat and uninspired as I expected. It just could be way more inspired than it is. Yeah, yeah. I'm totally with you on that. I would definitely watch the second movie. I kind of would hope that they would, like, the second one would be a reboot. I know.

Starting point is 00:23:12 I want piglet. I don't want piglet to be gone. I want the looks to be a little different. I feel like they can mumbo-jumbo their way back into having a piglet. And yeah, like, I don't know, like the look of the masks and stuff like that. Like, they serviceably get the job done because as long as they're a bear and a pig, it's fine. But I was sort of, I was constantly chewing on the same. the whole, like, pooh's face just looks like skin, but he's a bear, or at least a teddy bear.

Starting point is 00:23:40 So I feel like he ought to be maybe fluffy, but maybe that doesn't look good. I don't know why they wound up with this, but I was kind of, like, curious about that. And then piglet is just like an actual, like, boarhead pig. Yeah, or like multiple fangs and things. And, like, again, fine. But that, yeah, there's just more they could have done to make them feel like the character. Rewrite it so they were humans and then they got these masks stuck to their faces or something one night. Like, because they just look, their bodies were so human.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, and that's another thing. It's like, if you could have given some kind of flourish of like, maybe you shoot at one of them and like fluff comes out or something. Yeah, it's like there's some kind of hybrid monstrosity now. Like, there's so much room, I think, to maneuver in terms of getting fantastical with a story like this because they're his imaginary friends that aren't as imaginary as we thought. But, like, again, there's so much wiggle room in there to create something that would be, yeah, both in the spirit, fun, and also just as grungy as they want it to be here.

Starting point is 00:24:37 Super smart of the filmmakers to attach their brand to Winnie the Pooh, because if it had not, I don't think this movie would have done anything. So the fact that they thought to do that, that they did have that backstory, that we had those sketches, which I thought was cool. And they came up with the concept and made it look like this for 100K. Good job on all of that. Not too sad.

Starting point is 00:24:58 For number two, I think we really need to focus on story and getting those pieces together and really giving the actors something to do there. Yeah, something actually. They didn't ask for my notes, but those were my notes. Yeah, yeah. Make it better or make it way worse. Yeah, way worse would work too.

Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, like you want this to be like to one extreme or another, I guess, is what you would hope for. So I hope they can build on this, but guys, what did you think? Leave us your thoughts on the way of the poop, blood, and honey. You got anything else before we hit the road? No, honey.

Starting point is 00:25:32 No honey. No honey. Just the blood that pours through our beating hearts for cinema. Leave us your thoughts, my friends. Leave us your rewrites of the story. Leave us your hopes and dreams for part two. And we will catch you next time in the 100-acre wood. Peace.

Starting point is 00:25:54 Ricardo Martinez. Ricardo, with it being the season of spring break, wow. wow the dirty deeds that this guy is getting up to man ricardo actually held a hostage situation at an el pollo all because they did not give him two breasts and a wing instead he got one breast a thigh and a wing and that's not what he ordered too much symmetry so ricardo he went home open up his box and saw i godness isn't what i ordered and his wife was like honey it's okay he threw the thigh at his wife's face and said you eat this shit i'm going back to el poiloko this guy drove all the way about to Elpoil loco

Starting point is 00:27:00 with his wife's beheaded face because the chicken was already smeared all over her face. So he had to have proof that it was not the it was not the second breast of your protocol. He went there cops get called on him because

Starting point is 00:27:16 of course in this in a sensitive snowflake culture we live and you can't just walk in with your wife's beheaded head face anymore it's just not okay to do apparently for some reason the woke police just want to take everything so next thing you know helicopters are outside and all el polo loco had to do and frankly i see his point all they had to do was give him

Starting point is 00:27:41 the second breast maybe give him a third so that way you make up for the trip that he had to do there's only one lpoly local is there and it's like a 20 minute drive plus traffic it was like an hour trip in total man anyone would be had their wife in a situation like that yeah i have sometimes Sometimes people just go, wow, they must be crazy, but something's going to ask, like, what led them to that situation, though? And usually, logic will outweigh the emotional decision here. Oh, sure. So, Ricardo, don't worry, man. I'm taking all the Patreon funds that you have donor or away, and I'm going to be contributing to your bailout money or your escape plan.

Starting point is 00:28:18 Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. So, yeah. Happy screen break, buddy. Thank you. You know,

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