The Reel Rejects - WONDER WOMAN (2017) IS EPIC!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

THAT NO MAN'S LAND SCENE!! Wonder Woman Full Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Visit https://huel.com/rejects to get 15% off your order Road to James Gunn Superman continues w/ Wonder Woman Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review!! Tara Erickson & Andrew Gordon (Cinepals) dive into Patty Jenkins’s iconic 2017 blockbuster starring Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman; also in Fast & Furious), Chris Pine (Steve Trevor; Star Trek), Connie Nielsen (Hippolyta; Gladiator), Robin Wright (Antiope; House of Cards), Danny Huston (Ludendorff; The Constant Gardener), David Thewlis (Ares/Sir Patrick; Harry Potter), Saïd Taghmaoui (Sameer; American Hustle), Ewen Bremner (Charlie; Trainspotting), Elena Anaya (Dr. Maru/Cheetah; The Skin I Live In), Lucy Davis (Etta; Shaun of the Dead) and more—all in one spoiler-packed breakdown. We go through unforgettable moments like the “No Man’s Land” sequence, Diana's Amazon training, espionage with Steve, the Ares reveal, plus fan quotes like “It’s hideous” and the emotional finale. We also place Wonder Woman within the DCEU (Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, Justice League, Wonder Woman 1984) and tie it into James Gunn’s DCU roadmap—mentioning Superman, Zack Snyder and the future Supergirl and Clayface. We examine why this film revitalized the franchise, the cultural impact, and how it sets the stage for the new DC Universe. Also shout-out to James Gunn speculating Adria Arjona could be the next Diana under his DC reboot . Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Rejectnation shop.com. Don't forget to join Patreon. You know what to do. Let's get into these Patreon questions. Let's do it. So Maurice Gray Jr. In comic book and TV tradition, Diana comes to man's world during World War II. What do you think of the shift to World War I? And did you enjoy seeing the origin of the picture from Batman versus Superman? Well, we just, we literally, that was the last thing I said right before the film ended. I love that this, when you rewatch Batman, be Superman and you've now seen Wonder Woman 2017. This picture adds so much more context when you have, after watching this film

and it goes so much deeper into the backstory of not only Diana, but just through the rest of the team, especially with Steve Trevor. And yes, I certainly did see the origin of this picture. And it just goes to show, too, that you can really do a lot with certain little details in movies nowadays from an idea or from something in a certain film and run with it in a fascinating way.

So I most certainly didn't. In regards to, again, I have not read a ton of Wonder Woman comic books. So in regards to the shift from World War I to two, I don't personally think that made any kind of difference for me per se. I think either way would have worked because, I mean, we're dealing with Germans and Nazis and all that. So I think either way truthfully works for me. you yeah i was just saying the nazis gives us enough juice to be like freaking kill them all yeah which i love uh and yes i love the the picture like the callback you're like oh man i see the background of that picture and when it was taken i think is really smart because it makes you feel closer to all

of these characters as you see them go about this war together so that ideally when diana is looking at the picture the audience would feel the same right that same sense of like uh friend ship and like what they went through which i really really like um our next question's from druid love the channel and it has become my go-to de-stress for the day watching everyone i love that what do you think makes wonder woman stand out from the other origin story superhero films especially in the way it balances myth war and heart especially with how successful it was compared to some origin stories many thanks druid that's a great question uh I just, like I said, I love that this film, again,

because she literally lived in a bubble. I like that she had this very idealistic way of how the world, you know, worked and operated. And it really got shattered. And, you know, she had this black and white viewpoint on it. And after it was shattered, she and her interactions and experiences with Steve Trevor, she finally realized that love and sacrifice, you know, triumphs over everything. So I think that really stood out to me the most. And Chris Pines,

of course, is incredible acting in the film and his performance was tremendous. The balancing of all the comedy and the emotional drama, the emotional intensity of the film as well. So I would say probably that stood out to me the most. What about you? Yeah, I would say like what I think stood out is them basically giving us the foundation in the beginning where we're on the island with her seeing that even as a child she was fighting to be where she was it wasn't just like oh this thing happened it's like that's what she wanted to take care of for a long time and then eventually found out her power right that they were trying not to tell her about but i think um in turn her desire for peace and also for love is like really really strong with wonder woman

and she is like a woman who will not back down from saying like what he's talking about peace with the F are you guys doing um and i think the way that she takes these matters into her own hands when there are multiple men behind her they're like no no we can't do this man and she's like F you we're going but they didn't realize of course they're they're slightly protecting her weren't fully aware of her power yet um midway through uh but i I really like how she handles herself in these circumstances. So I think the way that your question saying it balances out myth, war, and heart is that the myth starts in the beginning. And I love how Chris Piney kind of gives her looks. And even I, as you saw, commenting of like, oh, they're all going to think she's freaking crazy.

But then the war happens. She helps obviously stop it. She's the badass. And the heart comes from like, oh. they all do realize like oh that's a real thing and and it's just the heart mainly is with her and cross yeah the chemistry between them is definitely the heart of the film literally yeah and yeah it's the emotional beat of the film for sure obviously you know you got the the darker stuff with the darkness of what lies with the consequences and repercussions of war and again how that shatters you know

the naivete and just her idealistic viewpoint of the world And, you know, like, how she thinks, like, just by destroying Ares that will, you know, take care of everything. But, yeah, again, the chemistry between her and Chris Pine is so damn good that it really, like, it emotionally pulls on you that when, unfortunately, what happens to Steve, like, you really do feel it's why I know everyone, are a lot of people, which I own, say that I cry a lot. But it's really got to move me and hit me a certain way. And this did. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I was just going to say about, like, the heart part.

you know, towards the end, when we finally find out that he says, I love you. And I'm like, I know that, like, you could feel like they love each other. And that was just such a great reveal, especially with the watch. And I'm very curious to see how that comes back with the next movie. Reject Nation. Life's only gotten busier. Filming, working out, getting a new studio, all the moving. But I've learned that when I stay consistent on what I put in my body, I perform better across the board.

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Which guy would you wish to find out was your parent? P.S. I love you both so much, Taryn Andrew. Thank you, Rebecca. Love you too. Oh, good. I sounded like a dummy because you had a typo, but then I fixed it, Rebecca, for you. I would want the god of love What was the is that that's not

Who's the god of love's name Do you want Venus like she's sexy Oh sure I'll take Venus That that works for me I'll do that thank you Terry You know me so well I'll do that What about you Tara?

Which God would you wish to find out I'd be cool with Zeus too That'd be okay with that Because I'd probably be powerful But I'll go with Venus That's fine Yeah Oh man

I'm not that good with the Greek, the Greek gods, but I would say, maybe I'd go with, like, there's a God of truth, right? The truthful one, I think. I just remember there's Hermes, there's Mercury. I don't remember. It's been so long since this. Listen, Rebecca, next time you write us, give us to all the options.

Tell us what the gods are and then make us choose, like a multi-choice. We love you, Rebecca. Thank you, Rebecca, for the question. Sci-fi extremists said two questions. One, how familiar were you with the wonder, woman character and the mythos prior to this film via the comics linda carter etc go ahead how familiar with i knew linda carter was wonder woman i think maybe as a child i'd seen a couple of episodes i don't really remember them in regards to like knowing the ice cream trade yeah i had read back in the day a

couple comics here and there that i don't really remember and i'd seen a couple animated things where i do also remember that she loved ice cream so not like too crazy familiar but i knew a little bit of What about you? Zero experience. Or if you had seen it, you probably didn't remember, right, Tara? Right, right. It's true, but I love this film so much. Number two, has this film changed your perception of the character in any way?

Well, you know, like I said, I don't really recall too much. So I've seen the film two times, I believe, in the past. It's been quite a while. So in regards to, has it changed my perception? I will say no, but I had low expectations coming into this film. I don't remember why, and this is again back in the film came out in 2017. I'm saying when I remember it was in 2015 or 16 when it was announced for some reason I had low expectations.

And I remember it blew my mind when it came out. So I would say it changed my perception in that way. But of the character, I do, you know, remember just again, like, you know, again, standing up for I love the female empowerment I thought that was all great I thought

in regards to just like having strong convictions and all that and being such an inspiration you know I don't know changed my perception from that manner of which I know

Wonder Woman but again I love the film I will say that like I think it stands truth to a lot of what she speaks to hasn't changed my perception Zero, because I didn't know. I didn't have anything. All right, Kev B's next.

Hey, Taryn, Andrew. I hope you're well-rested and hydrated. The no-man's land scene where Diana steps onto the battlefield and really becomes a hero. Was almost cut because some studio execs didn't see the point. Since she wasn't fighting a main villain, Patty Jenkins had to really push to keep it in, saying it was about Diana's transformation and her choice to help people who couldn't help themselves. What does it near removal say about the push and pull between a director's vision and what studios think will work? And when you watch that scene, do you think its emotional

punch comes more from how it's filmed or the story it tells? Wow, great question. Thanks for that info. I, you know me. I love my trivia and I love to know little details like that or I guess in this case a very big detail. I am so glad that Patty Jenkins got her way. At the end, of the day i understand these studios are the one funding these things it's their money that's on the line but also on top of that they're hiring these directors like to try and see you know because they have a vision and they they're trusting them so it's you know it's an interesting perspective to to take from them but i'm really glad patty jenkins did get her way on this because that scene was a very important scene with transforming uh diana in regards to her her emotional arc and also again just inspiring

others especially with Steve and helping him get to you know with with his um his sacrifice that comes later on too because what you believe in all that so I thought it was a very important scene to do in regards to you know how in how it's filmed or the story it tells I think both you know in regards to the emotional punch that it pulls because you know the way that that that the way that scene is filmed you've got the music that's really used so so i mean you've got the the the cello electric cello uh really being pulled in and it's so damn emotional and then again the the way the uh the camera is moving around with diana like you really feel like you're in a war with her but it's also so inspiring too that you want the soldiers to come into battle with her that

you can really feel each beat so i don't know i think like and also again the story it's trying to tell. So I think it's like doing all those things at once. So I think Patty Jenkins was right to fight for that scene and I'm glad she did. If they would have cut that, I think it would have really underscored the vision that she had. Yeah, I think studio execs, like I say all the time.

Producer, studio execs, I bring this up very often. They've ruined movies. And Patty Jenkins, I would be absolutely fucking livid. Sorry to curse, but I would. That scene literally makes the intense movie to show exactly who Diana is that she stands up for her moral truth, what she is there

for. She is not going to let people die in vain. But what we did see is them walking by when the horses were in the mud and there was a few more people and she's got these guys telling her there's a bigger fight here. We can't save them all. Which yes, it's a very realistic mindset. I understand that. But then when she reaches right there and she's in the in the hole, and then she goes for it. The fact that these idiotic studio execs, which honestly, you make money and you're like, let's make this movie and I want to make money.

And I'm like, you look at a page and you think that is a scene you want to cut. You do not belong in movies at all. You don't belong in cinema. You don't belong in film. You shouldn't be making movies. Go do sitcoms or something. Because that scene makes like this whole start of who Wonder Woman is. And it especially gets the audience into her perspective to see, yes, let's freaking go.

This is who she is. She stands up for what she cares about, right? And I think like in your question, there's always like a push and pull between a director's vision and like what studios think. And a lot of time the studios win because they are, they have all the money. so the fact that Patty was able to fight back is great but it's like it is not that much of an argument like whoever was in that room was like we should cut it should be fired

and also like it says there's an emotional punch that comes from how it's filmed or how it tells a story I think mainly how it tells the story as you see me yelling about it now yeah but also too like the fact that they said she's not fighting a main villain and I think like even in the third act like Oh, can we scroll?

I don't want to see that. Oh, got it. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, in regards to, like, even the third act, like, I think it's a fun fight, like, when she's fighting Aries, for instance, but, like, the studio execs, she's not fighting a main villain, like, having that whole CGI fight and then also, to the whole reveal of Aries, I get what they were going for, but I think it kind of, I still love the film, just, FYI.

I think it brings down a little bit of the emotional intensity of the film, like, that whole thing like with what we were trying with what they were doing the the rest of the film that's how i personally feel but like that no man's lands no man's land scene like accomplished that and so much more than like even for instance that that final cg i scene you know what i'm saying so it's like but that feels like an executive decision to me like that that final fight scene as as entertaining as it was like that scene emotionally had me so much more than than that scene even though again the whole thing with Steve Trevor, of course. I'm just talking about the actual fighting of a CGI villain is what I'm getting at here. Yeah, the point is, is that it does not matter that she's not fighting a main

villain. Yeah, of course. It is about her moral code and it shows there. A main villain matters nothing to her. The whole world and like how she views it is like peace and love, right? So anyway, our next question is from Jay Rushden, like creator of Wonder Woman invented lie detector. This is why Lassau Truth was created there, but why Invisible Plain, two poor ducks like there? I believe that

Jay Rushden, you wrote very quickly and you did not check in with the typos. So I'll read it one more time real slow for you, just in case anybody else gets it. Like, creator

of Wonder Woman, invented lie detector. This why lasso truth was created there by why invisible plane two poor ducks like there I think got it but why was the invisible plane too? I don't know I I think that

the poor ducks I hope that they're not in the invisible plane and going down with the bombs and the lasso truth wonder woman did she's got it um she's got an invisible plane i don't know how else to make all that work jay you've got to write us again okay we appreciate you and all these patron questions um just check check to typos y'all you know what i will say this in defensive jay like a lot of times when i'm typing stuff and i'm like wait i didn't type that that it corrected it totally i'm like this

is BS so i i will defend you there jay for sure oh maybe he's he sent the poor fucks so it was created but why the invisible plane was too nope nope nope nope i was thinking you know f-c-k-s turns into ducks yeah let's skip it now we answered a lot of that um uh let's give your let's give your thoughts any more thoughts that we didn't cover here if you've got any yeah i i will just say i'm a wonder woman fan now like i love this film this film was badass oh it's a great great film. It's a great origin story for Wonder Woman. I thought it was too. It's really interesting how they came up with it after Batman v. Superman, which I don't mind that

they did that, but I thought that was a fascinating choice. I think Gallaudot, I know a lot of people give her shit for her acting, but I think she was really sincere in the role. And I think she, you know, gave a lot of, a lot of... They're going to give her shit for acting. I mean, look at Snow White. I was literally thinking, wow, who's the director on this? Because Galgado is great in this. That's Mark Webb for Snow White. And he did... So, y'all need to calm down.

In regards to chemistry, he did a couple films that I really adore in regards to chemistry. But that's neither here nor there. But, again, Galgado brings a sincerity to Diana that I think, and this naivete that I think is so beautiful that, again, when she has this emotional arc by the end of the film, again, you really feel it. And then in regards to Chris Pine, I know we praised his performance very deservedly so throughout the... the film he brings uh this grit this charm to him and uh this another also moral compass that i think really just goes very well encapsulates the the chemistry between him and galgado or diana rather that i think just really is the heartbeat of the film and just really may uh again just emotionally pulls you and gets you gives you the emotional depth of the film between the two

of them and i actually really enjoyed the story as well i like as you pointed out a few times as well diana's moral compass and her code her conviction throughout the story is really well laid out and it's a great foundation the world building in this film i just uh the visuals as well again the cg i fight at the end it's very entertaining it's very fun to watch i do like some of the dialogue in there i just think again it weighed down a little bit of the emotional intensity that the rest of the film was doing having and the kind of the groundedness as well and i know you're saying cradness and you're watching people do some some of these other crazy shit in there but still um i really really love this film a lot it's it's really well done i like a lot of the messaging in the film the

dialogue is really sharp it's really crisp it's gives you some heartfelt messaging and themes and i think the performances are really on par there's a couple where uh like the guy who plays striker and x-men origins i don't think he's bad by him means i just think he's one of those mustache twirling villains but it's still It's still fun to watch and being taken out and all that. But that, and I think it's Rupert Gregson Williams. I can't remember the composer is, again, using that electric cello, and the way he sparingly uses it and the emotional beats in the film really elevates with his score.

I think he did a great job composing the film as well. And also using Hans Zimmer and Junkie X-L's theme, sparingly again, really knew when to time out things in each scene with his music. Really, really well-job. a well done job rather and patty jenkins again i know people give galgado a lot of shit for her acting i think she did a great job directing gal in this film and chris and and the rest of the cast for the most part i think she did a really well job well done job got to stop drinking coffee well done job directing in this film i love the story i think it said alan heinberg did the story who produced

one of my favorite shows o c and also zach snyder and whoever else did the the writing credits on this really solid job i really enjoyed this film is a good period piece film i was sitting here thinking that maybe jrussian meant to say uh the wonder woman created invented the lie detector with the truth lasso but why didn't they make the plain invisible too maybe that's what you were asking oh oh oh you're talking about the one at the end there with steve was maybe like the huge one and i'm like yeah that's a good that's a good thought i also am like um but listen He has flown in planes. How would he not be like I could parachute and then shoot at it?

Like that's what upset me. I thought like, oh, okay, I'm upset by, I mean, I was very upset that like he's freaking dead, dude. Like, I love him. And, like, they were so great together. And we got, like, no time to even explore, like, their love story. And that, like, devastates me because I really liked them together. But I just thought it's a little bit weird in the writing because he's,

background is like he's a spy like he would know to be like we're in this plane what else can I do besides like blow myself up with these bombs I'm like there's a better way man like parachute out you do it boom boom I guess but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go into it anymore I'm just saying that part sucks I agree with you and yeah go ahead I was just going to say, I think my only pushback on that for Steve's character is, I don't know if there were parachutes on that plane. I don't know what the situation was. Also, he was improvising on the spot.

Everything was happening so damn quick. Obviously, I doubt he won it. I mean, I think we can both say it. We know he doesn't want to sacrifice him there. We know he doesn't want to sacrifice himself there in that situation. He wants to spend his life with Diana. But, again, he had to make a decision, and he chose sacrifice. And it was, it was heartfelt, it was awful.

But I think that was his only thing to do Because otherwise, you know It was also a good redemption thing for him too Because Diana felt he was responsible for all the gas That had just been laid out on that town And now this was kind of a little bit of a redemption for him Now that he got to save countless lives By giving up his own life

So it was a really sad foreshadowing When he couldn't do anything here But now he had the choice And this is what he believed in. Yeah. I think it was like heartfelt and beautiful in that way. Yes, it was. You guys know I always give my honest opinion where I'm like,

that bitch is a spy. I'm like, come on now, parachute out of there. I don't want him to die. I'm with you there. But also, I really think that the way that Gal Godot was directed with her lines in this, I had zero issue. I really didn't have an issue either. I don't know why people are like, if they're complaining about it,

here's here's here's here's one thing that because i've seen snow white and this was obviously came out before what i was really looking at is there's a part in snow white where galgado and that other girl yell like no and i sort of like laughed i was like this is ridiculous i did see that on twitter and then exactly and then when she does it here um especially when um it's steve but then also the girl at the her aunt at the beginning, her emotional, like, groundedness was very real. And that takes direction. Meaning, if you look at Snow White and right, and someone's there telling her, just yell no. And then they don't give her a redirect. And in this, I can tell that, you know, Patty, I think was really great with her because I did believe what she was saying. And I do

felt that she, I do feel that she was grounded and she is not an actress, y'all. So, I mean, she is, but before this, it's not like she was like an acting class every day, dude. Like, she was brand new to this. And I still believe that she was very believable and the perfect woman for the role. So y'all can just like, calm down. Yeah, you know, what? Do you have some trivia or you're looking at budget? Yeah, just really quick. I just add to your point there, I do always tell people that's why this is a very collaborative thing when it comes to, filmmaking yeah you know like yes you can get on the actor for their performance but there is a director they're directing them so they are approving their performance so when they make a choice

to do something they've you got to remember if you haven't been on set there could be like 20 different takes of the scene and the director chose to specifically go with that that specific take or they chose like hey I am in agreement with the way you chose to do that scene and that's what we're going to go with so if you are not happy with an actor's performance which you have every subjective right to be you should probably not be happy as well with the director because the director approved that choice yeah just saying uh what do we do what are we looking we're going to look at rotten tomatoes first terra okay let me get that up that's taking two seconds here and then i'm going to get a box office and budget okay i'm going to go with rotten tomatoes i'm

going to assume the script, I mean, the, the, the critics went with 75 and the audience went with 86. Audience, you are 3% off 83. Critics, you are way off. 75, 93. Oh, good job. Good job, critics. Yeah, no, I love that this one got such a high score.

That's awesome. I'll just tell you, do you want me to just tell you? Tell me the budget and then I'll guess. Okay, so the budget for this film was one, let me see, budget, $150 million. Okay, and we're doing worldwide, grossing? Worldwide, yeah. 526 mil. 822 million.

Hell yeah, Wonder Woman. Yeah, no, when you have a great film like this, people are going to come back to the theater. Repeat, rinse and repeat, I'm telling you. This was a fun one. I'm so, so glad that you gave us that little trivia about Patty fighting back. I really had no idea about that, too. I'm so glad to hear that, too. And I'm glad she fought.

Like Wonder Woman, she fought for what she believed in. So Patty Jenkins was Wonder Woman in that moment against those executives. Those executives were Aries and Patty was Wonder Woman. True. So do you want to know one or two things of trivia or should we call it? Yeah, sure. Let's just do two. Okay, two.

The discussion in the both. about the pleasures of the flesh was completely improvised. Ha ha! Oh, my God! What? They made up like 12 volumes. Yeah, that's hilarious. That was good. Steve's timepiece is a pocket watch adapted with a leather case to be worn on the wrist.

Pocket watches were the norm at the time they were usually worn on a chain, but they proved to be impractical in frontline action because timing was critical for coordinating large-scale action, such as the use of infantry maneuvers in conjunction with artillery barrage. barrages. Soldiers began wearing timepieces on their wrist. This fashion spread to civilians after the war and adapted pocket watches into wrist watches, which became as a preferred fashion of timepieces in the 20th century. Look at us go. Cool. That's cool. I'm sure there's a million more. Let us know your favorite trivia stuff and everything there. I believe the next thing we're going to do is the Snyder cut. Yeah. We are a very long four-hour movie. Oh, I can't wait. We're doing it.

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