The Reel Rejects - X-MEN '97 1x08 Breakdown & Review!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:20 As per usual, we rely on. There's no caffeine in these, so it's perfect for these midnight shoe. Thank you for this ongoing partnership. Coy, you ready to do this? Beyond ready. Let's do it. It's interesting watching a show where you feel like sometimes it's like hopping around between stuff but you're just watching it how it's all tying together and such a nice bow

Starting point is 00:01:41 and setting up for a season two as well. I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. I'm just so grateful for this existing. That was beautiful. Let's talk about it. I'm excited to talk about it. Well, my big takeaway.

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Starting point is 00:02:41 I call it stealing when I'm like yeah sure but inside I'm brimming with it's that fury because I want to give but I'm not comfortable giving away stuff that really works for me every single day doesn't want to have less of things it's really tricky It's a conundrum.

Starting point is 00:03:00 It's a dichotomy. Uh? That I struggle with every day. And also, I mean, Professor Extra opening. What a great ending. Don't. Dude. Dude.

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Starting point is 00:03:38 Now, imagine that the proper gnaz here. But it looks great. To me, my X-Men discussion. To me, my X-Men discussion. This translates well. Like, you know, sometimes we create the designs. We're like, we're not sure I was going to look on the tee, but then it, man, does it look great. But anyway, let's talk about the episode now, Coy.

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Starting point is 00:04:08 enough with your stalling. That Spider-Man didn't even need to speak and I was so excited. Yeah, see there was like a crossover I've waited. And the Spider-Man says a crossover with the X-Men

Starting point is 00:04:22 but Spider-Man oh you didn't appear the X-Men show all you got was the thwhip moment and it was like enough of a coverman. It was the right style man. He did it, and he looked just like them. Because Uncanny X-Men number 35, which came out in 1967, was a huge deal because it crossed over two of the huge iconic Marvel characters of the time, because Spider-Man was invented a mere two years after the X-Men, and they crossed over an uncanny X-Men 35. And when that happened, it felt like that.

Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't even know what else happened in this episode. I assume a lot. No, those episodes were incredible. I love the family dynamics you brought up. I was pretty much my only commentary. That's yours like the only thing. I was just like, family dynamics. I sound smart.

Starting point is 00:04:58 He's out of Vin Diesel Touretz and just family. He's just going to per- His family. Repeat it. This seems intellectual. Wow, you seem like you have observations. This man knows nuance. I do nuance by pointing out the obvious theme.

Starting point is 00:05:12 But I did enjoy the different elements of family. And then at the end of the episode, the family came together, the family that is the X-Men. So I love when it's A-plot, B-plot, C-plot that becomes the new A-plot. And then they're able to spread it out again. Like, each of these episodes is really beautiful in its pacing because there's so many different things going on and they're able to spread them into different storyline so you feel connected

Starting point is 00:05:34 to the characters arcs and what they're going through but then they always find a way to spin them together again and it's really impressive the pacing obviously the writing but not just the writing in dialogue but the writing and the actual overarching story like I'm describing and then the animation in this episode was so well mapped out

Starting point is 00:05:50 so well choreographed the fights like all of them the summers using their power so summersy it's like I've never seed. I never would have thought Cyclops in, I do believe that was a nod towards, in the, in the movie, it was a Mazda RXA, because I remember the marketing, but this

Starting point is 00:06:06 was a Porsche, but the blue car using that with his optic blast to drift, and then cable, and that being like a father-son bonding moment, well, June's like a proud mom commonly using telekinesas, and then you've got Nightcrawler and Wolverine swashbuckling with nine reasons to do this, and then the Wolverine

Starting point is 00:06:22 out of the plane moment, that was just insane. This episode, we were promised at the top. that the last three would be mind-blowing. And I was a little worried because the rest of the show has been so good that if you've got perfect, how do you make the end more perfect? This was so good. Yeah, and it's like, did Xavier show up too late?

Starting point is 00:06:43 You know what I was just, speaking of the Wolverine stab moment, I was like that you were making fun of yourself for not being subtle, that he just repeated the end of Xavier's line. You know, I get new ones. Speaking of which, Xavier, when he said, am I late? Did that mean, am I late? No, no, no, wait. Sorry.

Starting point is 00:06:59 You made so many points, and then my mind hopped to some other point you made because you hopped around the points. And then I brought it back together. But you brought back together. Like a web, like Spider-Man. Spirdering. But with the Wolverine stab, one of the fun things about the Wolverine animated is you never see him stab a human being. You never do. Oh, my God, my God, kind of name, Trish.

Starting point is 00:07:23 Not Trish. God damn it. Trish Tildie. Is Trish Silby? It was Trish. Yes. Trish Takanaka Takanawa is family guy. Trish Tilby.

Starting point is 00:07:32 It's just they're both TTs. I was like, they'll relate. Yeah. That cameos going to be great. What do you mean, Craig? Both reporters. So it's really easy to get confused.

Starting point is 00:07:40 But he stabs her in the back. And even though she is like activated prime sentinel moment, it does give you that visceral reaction of, he's stabbing a human. And you never saw that in the original animated series. Yeah, that's a point. They found a. way to implement that

Starting point is 00:07:58 where you're not like, he's not killing some human beings. Like multiverse of baddest, the oil on WandaViz. Yeah, yeah. The blood is oil so it's okay. They found a really smart creative way to pay that off. And yeah, I mean, with Xavier coming in saying that, am I too late, what I do like about that is because

Starting point is 00:08:14 Magneto, with him being positioned as the leader of the X-Men, and maybe he's going to be swayed down the path that Charles had always wanted him to go down. But this being the catalyst, the ultimate thing to like pretty much like I imagine like a pinball just you like you yank it back and boop goes through it all and now it's coming full circle where all right it's his full

Starting point is 00:08:36 vision coming to fruition now it is a full on war that has now been declared and Xavier is showing up right at the end of it and maybe like you might be late there's a war you might be too late actually you just might be too late and I love the I love the dilemma that presents for everyone here yeah that is a scary proposition and this villain bastion i'm not familiar with him i've been learning about him via the show via through your video via through all the explanation you keep doing but the way they illustrate him here where he comes across like some visionary CEO of sorts like the way he talks yes there's a maccavillian tactic i've learned the word this weekend there's a macabillion tactics the way he's doing it but it's really easy to

Starting point is 00:09:25 have a character like him come across very cliche, but I think the way they write his dialogue with this sort of, um, you know, inspirational, motivational, motivational speaker type of way where you're like, I, he, he talks about it like it's just business tactics in a way. You know what he is? The ultimate tech bro. He really is the ultimate tech bro. And I love that about it. It's so smart the way they've done it. They've like turned a character from the 90s into the most It's the most topical type of villain you could illustrate. Yeah. In a way that normally when they do that in a movie or show, it feels like writers pandering.

Starting point is 00:10:03 Right. And here it actually feels embellished in the actual show, the world that it's inhabiting. But that allows for these action scenes that we're talking about with beautiful cinematography to pay off in a way that feels so earned. Yeah. and is constantly rooted in emotion. That's what generates the excitement. You know, when we're like hootering and hollering and Spider-Man is a great deal. But everything else, like the hootering and hollering is coming in because we are so emotionally invested in the stakes of what's happening because it's all doom and gloom.

Starting point is 00:10:39 And it's just like, damn, these guys are fuck right now. So then when Wolverine's like slashing through and nightcrawling or teaming up, even though when they are like winning, I got it's so brilliant. Because the more I talk about it, the more I'm realizing. This is how I view what we're doing here when we're filming a video. I view it like React. I've taught, brought this up, point up with people in communication here lately is like, reaction is just instinctual of what you're talking about. I'm just talking about in terms of when you're just having a discussion.

Starting point is 00:11:07 And what is the latter thing that I say? I haven't said it all week. It would like to share connection about. No, no, no, no, react. When we're just talking with people, I, I have been, I've been drawing blanks all day. It is also one in the morning. It is one in the morning, but we've had a day. You've had a 20, you've had more of a, you've had more of a day than me.

Starting point is 00:11:26 But I've had a day too. I've had some stuff go down. But, um, uh, oh my gosh, what is, Coy, help me remember. I've said it to you. You need to clarify which thing you're, you've talked a lot of things. What I'm talking about in terms of responding. Oh, first is react. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:40 So like more than when we're review, when we're reviewing, that's why I review this. Like when in conversation, you could either react or respond. And responding is taking. time to think about it. So when we're reacting, that's just what you're seeing right here, just the emotions that are coming through in this. And then as we're discussing it, we're responding. And as we're responding, like, more things come to mind that I didn't think about. Because you're reliving at your processing. Yeah. And it's, um, and because of this thing that where I was getting so focused on wanting to respond and find that word, I forgot what I

Starting point is 00:12:09 wanted to respond about and it'll come back to me after I grabbed this footage to start uploading. So why don't you just start talking about some other points quite that I'm going to remember what I was talking about. Because it had something to do a magneto. I'm buying myself. Everything's good. Okay, Magneto was right. I'm a launch from there. The concept of Magneto is right is one of my favorite in the X-Men.

Starting point is 00:12:26 I talk about Cyclops was right a lot. It's a similar idea. So the ideologies at play in Xavier versus Magneto, I have always really enjoyed because at times I identify with Xavier and at times I identify with Magneto, but they're both such well-fleshed-out concepts that Magneto was right is going to be really fun to explore because at this point, humanity has proven him right, time and time again. At this point, he's been pushed to the edge. this point, it is time to go in the more Malcolm X direction between the, you know, the beautiful

Starting point is 00:12:54 metaphor of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X of these characters. And I really am curious how they're going to temper Xavier, because at this point, what else does Magneto need to prove? And we see his giant power set used here. So I'm really excited for what could possibly land the season finale, knowing we're going to get a season two, knowing this giant war has started, and knowing this, like, Operation Zero Tolerance has happened. Like, we just got so much of that comic here the mansion's destroyed as it always is but I really

Starting point is 00:13:24 really want to see Magneto's ideology expressed and I'm really excited for that dialogue of what's about to come from him probably in his original suit I think he's going to suit up in monologue what I remember because you're talking about Arnito was that the resort that

Starting point is 00:13:40 Magneto gets to the entire show of X-Men what's so brilliant about what I thought that they did in this episode is that the entire run of X-Men, the original series, you know, Xavier and Eric

Starting point is 00:13:54 are at war with one another based off their ideologies of how they view the differences here with humanity and mutants in that one should coexist and the other no, we can't coexist. And when it gets to this moment where Magneto does the ultimate power move,

Starting point is 00:14:08 you know, where he is declaring war, he really has no other option in that moment. So to propel you to the point of the moment where they were talking about this is what Magneto has always wanted to do this entire time it's left it here as an audience member to go well he had no choice in that moment

Starting point is 00:14:27 versus before whenever he's like I'm doing it I'm doing it you're like no Magneto slow down let's try this other stuff first wait hold on let me interrupt your thought process in your pattern here for a second this puts you as it's an audience like no actually when we're here we're going badass move Awesome. I'm not even thinking about the consequences

Starting point is 00:14:49 of what this is finally to actually. And how many humans are dead? Like there's so many moments where it's like, yeah, he just stabbed a human that happens to be an Android zombie. Exactly. Like, that is brilliant writing there because it puts you in the dilemma

Starting point is 00:15:01 with them of, yeah, Magneto was right in that moment. And I like how they're illustrating because, you know, they're talking about how history repeats itself. Magneto knows humanity best. The sense of deja vu or trauma was really, that was painful right.

Starting point is 00:15:15 humanity repeating traumatic history patterns and the constant acknowledgement of the numbers on the prison identifier numbers, yeah, of his, of World War II. And seeing how they're headed down that path. That's also what Bastion wants, right? It's to become. Oh, Bastion already won. That's what's crazy. It's like, Bastion did use Xavier's absence in the way that he wanted to manipulate it. And now Magneto is going to be the one that's making choices.

Starting point is 00:15:42 And Xavier's coming from behind the ape all for the first time. Yeah, well, he's seeing that. You know, he wants to enslave mutants, you know? And it's like, that's what Nainito already had to fight against in his youth. Yeah. As when it wasn't about mutants versus humans. And tolerance is extinction is such a fascinating turn of phrase with where this first of three episodes lands. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:03 See, I feel like, you know, when my brain catches up. When you're working, I could kind of say something relatively okay. People do watch us talk about saying things. Eventually, I might see something relatively smart. Don't worry. This hour-long edit will be a 15-minute. No, we've been talking for 15 minutes. This review does not get at it.

Starting point is 00:16:21 We keep all the flubs in here, Coy. You know how we do. That's true. That's true. I'm really, I don't know if I've been this excited for a finale other than Loki. Loki had me in the same level of, like, apprehensive glee. And I've loved Marvel TV overall. You know, not everything's perfect, but more wins than losses. This X-Men show, I have not felt like this about a,

Starting point is 00:16:45 an animated show in a long time i'd definitely say about a i mean like i love invincible yeah and i think in terms of absorbing a lot i mean from like youth to now with dc and marvel animated properties like this is easily one of the best and and this is coming from someone who sees the animation medium as a medium not a genre i'm not disparaging animation i just usually don't connect with the characters quite as deeply as i do with live action because it's an association of the actors that I've you know I've you see Ryan Gosling you've got 20 movies that you associate with them it's not like this new character and I with animation it's you're giving me a brand new clean slate I've got my association of the character I see Wolverine I go oh I love Wolverine but

Starting point is 00:17:27 you're giving me a new take on him that I'm trying to love and it's made me love these characters obviously the original X-Men 92 to 96 like that gave us so much that this is building off but they've done such an exceptional job just turning that remixing that changing that like this new thing that I'm week to week waiting for Tuesday and that this feels so unique building up to a finale so unique uh you know having this three part series that everything has felt like a cliffhanger these are cliffhangers yeah like everything else has been like oh wait and see this is like i'm a third of the way through this anxiety attack like i'm so excited because there are also complete episodes yeah yeah this one has a whole arc this is when you say part one

Starting point is 00:18:07 two and three i'm thinking that yeah while it ends with like a definitive cliffhanger it still feels like a complete package of an episode, you know? Yeah, it doesn't feel like they left us, like... Yeah, they just cut it off. Deal with it. Last line. Cut it off in the middle. 30 minutes and unplug.

Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, it feels like a very specific installment or a very specific chapter, I would say. And what a moment, like, the Magneto, like, build up. That was... And we keep yelling about cameos, but it also is such a great way to consciously use cameos that felt earned. You're showing the planet and the ramifications of something. You're about to see all of these characters affected by some. something, that's a really smart way to do something instead of just like, here's a cameo because it's cool.

Starting point is 00:18:47 I mean, you know, when you're cutting to like samurai, when you're cutting to Omega Red, when you're cutting to that, those feel a little bit more like, yeah, we're acknowledging the expansion of the world. But then other times they use these cameos like Dr. Doom or Zemo, dude. In a way that just feels like, oh, yeah, they've always just been there. Yeah, I love that Zmo pop because it was like just another face on a screen, but of course he'd be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, I think it's the shows is so wonderfully done. Yeah, so impressed. The way they've been fleshing out night crawler, I feel like he's a character.

Starting point is 00:19:14 I mean, I hope people like highlight him more maybe because it gets like an actual action scene. People will. The tail was a sort of thought swashbuck. But as this like hyper empathetic character being this like the ultimate character to talk to you of who was such a spiritual character. Yeah. To walk around and lay down these wonderful words of wisdom and anecdotes. That line essentially family is blood is blood, family's choice. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:42 So true. So true. I just realized, too, with the summers, it's kind of like a, it's kind of like, in a way, Cyclops is Kyle Reese. To your genesis, John Connor. Really making this terminator through line work. And Gene Graves, Sarah Carter. I mean, yeah. Kind of.

Starting point is 00:20:02 What do you think of this parallel? In a way? I love the family, obviously, pockets. But I also like that the size. Summers family is such a mess, and the Gene, who can't escape Madeline in the series, accepting her son in a really wonderful way. Like, I really loved that Scott is trying to get his approval. Gene just accepts him as he is. And Gene, even though she's dealing with all this stuff, was in a state of Zencom.

Starting point is 00:20:31 And I really like that family bond, it felt like she was just happy to have them together. And that was fascinating to translate in an action scene where they're under duress. And she just seemed like, a family. Got them. Yeah, I mean, that existentialism crisis that she's dealing with wasn't just, all right, Madeline's gone. I love how it's a lingering process and the idea of shared memories. It's, you know, like, you kind of question yourself, like, are my memories a lie? If I was actually in that place, would I be responding that way?

Starting point is 00:21:01 Or am I only responding that way because, or should I say reacting that way? Should I be reacting that way? Because, what was I talking about? I'm like, family, Madeline, Madeline leaving her having a whole last few hours of my days. That's everything all day. Like, oh, my God, I'm in the middle of the thought and I'm losing it. All the Madeline parallels are having a deal, Madeline leaving and what that left Scott like and Hey, man, it's authentic.

Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah. What do you want to say? Because I'm dying. We are just in a mess. Physical kick. Yeah. Our bodies are falling apart. Just actually before your eyes.

Starting point is 00:21:36 We can finally be together in person. And we're just like, I can't think. I can't move my left foot. It's gone numb. But I think for comic fans, they're doing a really good job paralleling Cassandra Nova with Bastion in a really interesting way. They're combining Ease for Extinction and the new X-Men, Grant Morrison Ark, with the Operation Zero Tolerance Lobdell Arc.

Starting point is 00:21:59 So the Lobdell arc from the 90s, the, I believe it's the early 2000s, the new X-Men run. And those are totally different storylines, but the way they're able to blend these two very iconic storylines together. and then also the way they're making Madeline Pryor not quite an Emma Frost but the way they're making another woman like Scott's got another woman she happens to be the twin and that's a storyline

Starting point is 00:22:20 that obviously exists in the comics that's all the inferno stuff but in the comics throughout the new X-Men arc Emma Frost is kind of manipulating Scott in her own way and you find out later that he cheated on Gene with Emma and Emma's not in this well she's got a moment

Starting point is 00:22:35 her evolution and the diamond but like she's not that character in this I love that Madeline Pryor is kind of like doing the Inferno storyline and New X-Men storyline. I love they're doing the Operation Zero Tolerance and the New X-Men storyline, and it doesn't feel like they're sacrificing the heart of either. So if you're a comic fan, this is really cool and exciting because I've got some ideas of where they might go, but the writers are geniuses because they keep being like, oh, you know that comic, how about Left Art? And then, like, you get to be like, oh, I didn't. So I'm really excited for the last two episodes because I know where it could go, but they keep tricking me. and I'm so appreciative of the writers

Starting point is 00:23:09 loving the comic so much that they know not one storyline but enough to go like, ha ha. Amen. Amen to that, man. All right, boy. Well, guys,

Starting point is 00:23:20 what did you think about this exode? Oh, God. Too much X-Men. It's a good exode. Wow. I'll tell you I'm awake, though. Guys, we talk for a living. Here we are.

Starting point is 00:23:35 Doing what we do am I just for a living. Me affirming what's going on my brain. Just like, am I making, I feel like I'm probably making it worse. I think the part of your brain that needs to focus is over here looking at the part of your brain not focusing. Yeah, so I'm just not focusing more because I have so focused on not focus. I've slept three hours. I'm proud to know what Spider-Man's name is.

Starting point is 00:23:53 You are still exceptionally sharper than me on all fronts. And this is, I filmed, I filmed a movie today too, dude. I know. I'm tired. He filmed the whole movie on set, 16 hours today. Yeah, acting at Peter in a boss model. Guys, I'm playing an angel. um

Starting point is 00:24:08 he caught it i'm always listening oh wow that was good i was eight hours late peed in a vase bottle and here we are hopefully you guys got that

Starting point is 00:24:19 this is just for the people that are here 20 minutes into our madness all right well leave your thoughts down below thanks for being here so good to be back let's look at that Patreon

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Starting point is 00:24:50 You needed to walk a mile in their shoes. So now you can, you know, like full license to unleash on people. Like Ian Simon. Yeah, Ian Simon, man. We're probably chewing gum right now. Now during this shoutout, what we're trying to talk to you. Or maybe you are the most polite person there is. Maybe you were chewing gum at the start of this,

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The Reel Rejects - X-MEN '97 1x08 Breakdown & Review!!!

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