The Reel Rejects - X-MEN '97 1x09 Breakdown & Review!!!

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Starting point is 00:04:53 journey of learning how to fall asleep. Oh. I was like... Jackman read you a story. It called Hugh I might. Rock of my baby, mate. Talk yourself in there. Trip on the bobby, etc. He just said Australian phrases

Starting point is 00:05:10 the entire time. This is like last week, but way earlier. Remember last week's review, we got halfway and lost our minds right at the top. Right as we get into it. So he, I just this video of people reacting to quirky quota to walking dead right now. It's really distracting. Yep. Guys, it's going very

Starting point is 00:05:27 well. Stop looking at this. Prepper and any editors like, what is happening? So, um, yeah, uh, speaking of Prepper, I need to tell them that the footage will get to you guys in nine minutes. Uh, I couldn't sleep and I was like, you know what? I've never read old man Logan. I'm going to like, oh, dude. I'm going to start reading old man

Starting point is 00:05:42 Logan. Steve McNevenard is cool. And then it reached like three in the morning and then I was reading old man Logan. And, uh, yeah, You're not recommended for sleep. Finish the whole thing. Too good. It was a really great comic.

Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. To watch something that went like so violent as well was enjoyable. And then to get like a hint of gritty violence in this Disney Plus show. Reminded you of like where Wolverine can go. It was cool to actually witness that. Yeah. That's a good required reading before Deadpool and Wolverine, by the way. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:17 You may recognize some set pieces from the trailer now. It was on my list because of that. So I was like, you know what? I'll just knock it out. And then it was such a gripping graphic novel series. Don't read this before going to bed. And don't watch X-Men 97 before go to bed because you will not sleep. But this episode, I'm trying to be cool and like text at the same time, which I don't

Starting point is 00:06:34 recommend doing because I can only focus on one thing at a time. So this episode was another banger. Yes. I absolutely loved it because this divide that is happening with them dealing with like philosophies and ideologies and watching like the beautiful. beautiful poetry. Like this symphony that this team has orchestrated here is so impressive. Because I know a lot of people have gone into this show. You know, not everyone's, most people are not from the coy perspective of like, I've read every comic so I can easily keep up with this. But a lot of

Starting point is 00:07:06 people haven't even seen the original animated series or have seen it and don't remember what happened in it. And as someone who did watch the original animated series, it's so cool to go back to see how it's dovetailing into it in a way where, oh, wow, they've, you know, exactly. Xavier left Earth. Magneto then took up the mantle in honor of Xavier, and I'm going to try to walk the Xavier path. Day one of going, screw this, Fath, Xavier returns, and they're right back to where they were talking at a distance

Starting point is 00:07:38 where he's hovering over him and he's looking up. Magnus, no, don't do that. Charles, you're wrong. 61 years of comics. Right back into the cycle. 61 years of comics. Toxic relationships. They're cyclical.

Starting point is 00:07:50 But then seeing how the sides have formed with them is really great writing because it makes sense why character, Sunspot, is this? Yeah, Sunspot. The one character I do not want to like. Sunspot and Rogue siding with Magneto on this side. It's coming from a place of grief. And so much of these characters has been dealing with their emotional process and how they respond to hardship. You know, we just watched what Storm went through and how she's. dealt with hardship and the path she chose to do with facing that darkness. And this is another

Starting point is 00:08:25 version of them facing their darkness. And it's justified through external circumstances and such. So I think it's really beautiful. It's like beautifully written. Like the elegancy of the dialogue throughout, man, I was so wow. I didn't touch the ending at all for you. The moment I got to acknowledge before I get to the ending. Well, it's in the ending. But the line of dialogue where Magneto says, like, you've gotten your metal, but he means M-E-T-L-E, but it's why he's covering him in metal. It's like M-N-M-N-M-N-W-P-P-L-P. Yeah, that rhyme, that bars, Magneto, which you can bend. How do they do that in the heat of the...

Starting point is 00:09:02 I can never think that clear. I'd be like, screw you, asshole. Like, the way they talk so cleverly. For days, that is the power. That's when you know you're a supergirl, when you can quip and fight. Oh, yeah. This episode, I thought, was this beautiful kind of eye of the hurricane in the last arc, because last episode was tons and tons of action

Starting point is 00:09:19 and obviously the story still evolved this episode had to kind of like calm itself down, had a lot of tension built back up to dive into the other side of the hurricane like there was this beautiful calm that wasn't calm it was still but not calm is what I should say there's tension building

Starting point is 00:09:34 and the storm is brewing and you feel all that but there's moments of silence there's moments of thoughtfulness there's moments where emotions are exchanged and then the other side of the hurricane is waiting for at the end of the episode so I really love the way these three episodes were structured so you get to feel that acceleration again because I don't think it would have been sustainable to have three episodes that were all like episode seven or eight like eight nine and ten

Starting point is 00:09:56 needed to have this and now it's back to crazy and I'm a little shocked that Wolverine um he's been kind of a team player this season which I've enjoyed because I've talked at length about how Wolverine the X-Men is not the format like he's a team player he's more of a background player I love that they gave him that huge tornado whirlwind in the last episode and then And this one, that fight with Rogue is straight out of the comic, and it's an important fight because Rogue is wearing her villain outfit again, just like she was in the fight in the comic. And it's them at opposing odds right before this giant moment happened. So you get the heroics of Wolverine, and then you just see him lose.

Starting point is 00:10:30 And this in the comic books changes Wolverine irreparably. He eventually gets his Adamantium back, but he goes feral. He goes into the woods. He doesn't have a nose for a while in the comics. He's got like this sense of himself that he has to find himself again. He loses identity. I feel like they can do a Wolverine show. And make everyone happy.

Starting point is 00:10:49 All the Wolverine fans and... Well, it would be kind of a neat prospect for them to explore of take this Wolverine specifically and do a show because I love that idea of Wolverine losing his adamantium because when he first got it, it was such a traumatic incident for the guy and, you know, just adding on to more of his cursed nature. Yeah. But then it becomes an extension of him. and now to be have that stripped away from him and having to sort of reform his identity Yeah, I show of that

Starting point is 00:11:18 I find that really compelling storytelling I also think they did a really good job This episode with like kind of filling in plot holes And then I think the biggest plot hole has always been like Why doesn't Magneto just pull his in him? And then the episode's like we're gonna do it this episode Like that's kind of the big like why hasn't that ever happened And then the comics had happened

Starting point is 00:11:34 And the way they handled it here I thought was great I thought the way they handled it was so smart Like because he had some line there of like This feud can finally end Yeah, do you think it's him dying? And it's like, no, he played the Una Reverse card. He's like, you think it's over? It's over for you.

Starting point is 00:11:48 It's like he was waiting. I'll do it if Wolverine decides to cross the line. Right, right. If he crosses the line, then I'm just going to do the ultimate power. Have you ever seen that meme of like somebody called the hospital? Not for me. That was the episode. Like, Becky, it was like, it's not for me.

Starting point is 00:12:04 Wolverine's going down. This is a great game of tops throughout. Every time you think that our heroes might win or, I don't know what you. This is good writing. Because I'm curious to see in the comments, like, who do you side with on this one? Because Magneto was right. I could totally see people siding with Magneto at the end of the day. And, you know, it's easy to just go, well, obviously, Xavier because.

Starting point is 00:12:24 But even Xavier did some shit in this episode. Like, Xavier was like, I'm going to invade your mind and take you out, which is not what he stands for. But he was willing to. The only beat that I thought this episode missed was the celebration of, like. Storm. Storm, you have your powers. You got a cool, new costume. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:39 But that sister beat was one of the best beats of the episode. The weather your mind, mind your weather line. God damn. There's some writing in this episode. Oh, Cable, being controlled and having to face this whole thing with... And what happened to Gene? We don't know. Because I like the complexity that Cable has.

Starting point is 00:12:56 I can only be... I can only fathom, like, try to fathom what's running through the guy's mind. That's my mom, but not really. It's the clone of my mom. But it's actually my mom's the clue. That's the original of my mom. That's my dad. Don't connect with her because you might resent her.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Maybe my mom might have been around if this woman ever came back. And I resent my dad because he had to abandon me, but he had to. Yeah, that's, I mean, there's such a conflict with cable that I find really interesting. And because that's the cool part about sinister when he mind controls is he prays on a dark truth within us. Yes. And he knows her more than anyone because he's been obsessed with their genes. Scott and Gene are his passion project. So I love that he's the one that's able to manipulate Gene because he would know how.

Starting point is 00:13:33 And he is the one that's already conquered her abilities because he's cloned her. Like, he's been able to take her out at some point that level that she doesn't even know it. He talks to her. The dialogue they choose is very carefully crafted to where he speaks to her like he's an assault victim. She's an assault victim. Oh, yeah. I'm like, he's the assaulter. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:49 It's really, it's like so sinister the way he speaks about her. I think he's going to be the first villain in the live actions. I think that they've been, they've been setting that up for a long time. We've never seen them in live action. And I think it's smart to do someone. You're introducing these ex genes have a genetic manipulator. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:14:06 Like it's a good starter villain for the story, I think they'll tell. And I think this episode really shows the strength of him. He's a fascinating cinematic villain. If you cast someone really charming. I also really like in this episode that Nightcrawler, when Rogue woke up, there was that brother-sister moment. And I really think that we've seen a great arc of Nightcrawler, considering he's in like two episodes of the first show.

Starting point is 00:14:26 He's gotten a lot to do here. And he kept crushing it. When he's on screen, they count. I feel like that's what this show's been doing really well. That's the X-Men when they're a team. Like, it should be, holy crap. How are they going to do eight people? And they're like, that's how.

Starting point is 00:14:37 Well, I think when they do this show, they, they, they, have they know that they can't there's so many characters that it's not really about the quantity at times the quality of time that whenever you're with a character because it's really easy to make characters feel like they're disservice yeah when you have this big of a cast to deal with but yet they know how to still make impactful moments and that's the beautiful part about the dialogue writing is that they know how to make these moments count so much for the like i'd love to kind to see someone do the math on how it's scream time anyone yeah exactly like how much many minutes does Wolverine actually have in the runtime of the 10 episodes? Like, it's really

Starting point is 00:15:14 not a lot when you think about it, but it feels more substantial than you might initially perceive it to be, you know? And it snuck in a, like, a suit up moment with the old costumes that felt classic and so special. Like, his brown suit on camera made me so happy. He wore brown. He wore brown. He wore his brown pants. And also, like, the rogue villain suit I've mentioned, but I really think it's important to look at why they suit it up. You've got a character dressing like their villainous self joining Magneto and you've got all these characters dressing as their Xavier studentie like Goody Two Shoes selves like Marvel Girl is a cheesy 60s costume but they're showing their allegiance to Xavier and then Xavier goes and does that shit and then Cyclops takes

Starting point is 00:15:51 them out yeah I think we're getting a Cyclops's right moment at the end I think the season finale is going to be Cyclops was right I feel like you're more correct about that than ever especially with seeing how they have these opposing point of views and then that lot and that's a great point about the visual narrative here with the with the costumes because rogue has that line of if he treated us like people instead of just like students yeah I'd see some of these things and a big part of the debate with magnino and Xavier is your way is it's not just out I mean he never believed it never thought of work but it's like so outdated by this point because he's not keeping up with what's currently happening right he's not he hasn't

Starting point is 00:16:29 been privy to the experiences of this so magnito really really believes that these old ways of Yours are just not going to work. I even tried it. I tried walking in that path. Didn't work. Yeah. Within a week, their Genosha happened.

Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah. He's lived it and nope. So to go to the old costumes, he didn't even cement that more, I think is really strong storytelling. And then obviously him going to his old costume kicks the episode off. Yeah. We left him in a banana hammock.

Starting point is 00:16:54 He was like free ball in his undies, just living. Yeah. And now we'd like, that was a moment. I think this is one of the best Disney plus shows that Marvel has ever done. And I feel like it, I feel like it's personally, personally to me, I think this season, if they stick the landing on the season, I feel like it could be the strongest season out of the X-Men animated series as a whole, you know? I think that if they stick the landing, this goes right next to Loki as my favorite Marvel show.

Starting point is 00:17:21 And if they stick the landing, this will be right there with Batman the animated series as my favorite animated adaptations. It's so gripping. It goes so gripping. It goes past like animation in that way where you're so, invested in character because i i yeah loki's live action and i'm like they're my show yeah i understand how there can be a divide with animation there's there's there's people who have a hard time getting invested in animation because you can be so aware of animation there's this sense of uh non-reality that when you're watching it but for me i'm like what and i kind of had

Starting point is 00:17:52 some of that disassociation when i was watching the original animated series but i don't really get that when i watch this show i'm so invested in the characters they really feel like people to me and they shoot it like a movie yeah we talked about this cinematography a couple times Like Gene Gray moving in the way they use the slide and they change the camera angle. It's shot like a film. It's animated like it's shot like a film. It's so grand. It's, what do you think?

Starting point is 00:18:13 Finale. What do you think? I think your Cyclops is right moment is very true because the main thing I really appreciate about this show is the boldness that they're doing with a revival season. You know, first episode was really nostalgia heavy. And the second episode showed me they're going to really do something different with this show. And then it's just kept going. And they've kept going. They've killed off Gambit.

Starting point is 00:18:36 They have this adamantia moment. Yeah, he stayed dead. So all the whole time he's going to come back. And they, and boy, DeMeo's been online saying like, no, he's really dead guy. We wanted the way to mean something. Yeah. And they really let it stick. This, this moment with Magneto and Wolverine at the very end.

Starting point is 00:18:53 Like, damn, that is a bold maneuver, you know. Yeah. And I think, I think it's really cool to challenge your audience, the way they've been challenging them in a way that also. It seems like the audience, for the most part, is pretty receptive. Oh, people are raving about that, like, whoa, what just happened to me? It's crazy to take these swings, but these swings feel so X-Men. Yeah, you know.

Starting point is 00:19:17 And the drama's all there and the soap opera in us between weeks. I've been loving the conversation. One of the things I'm going to miss is, like, after next week, we don't talk anymore. I know. Internet. Boy and I are done. That's it. That's it.

Starting point is 00:19:27 Guys, this is my last real reject show. I got one more. And then in real life, if I see them, walk in the other way. Not only is Reject Nation over. I'm not talking to this guy. No more funny. Well, they're going to die from the cough. Yeah, I actually am not going to talk to you.

Starting point is 00:19:41 So I'll be dead. Deader than Gambid. But I do think it's going to be a big dramatic cliffhanger because season two's already, like, you know, done. See you trying? See that look in your eyes? You saw me literally like, I've got it, Greg. I've got this.

Starting point is 00:19:58 Guys, I was trying to have to cough the whole episode for the editor's sake. And it just, you just, I saw you see me break and I'm like, I'm fine. I'm fine. You don't think about this episode? Guys, this is one of the morning. I'm dying. Can you tell me what you think because I'm dying? You know what?

Starting point is 00:20:14 Don't get an ear infection. It's bad for you. I think it's going to end on a cliffhanger because season two is already done. And I think Cyclops is right. It's going to be a thing. I think Wolverine going on a walkabout is going to be a thing. And I think one more death. I, I, I really hope they do.

Starting point is 00:20:31 type. And I think that's why Loki stuck with us for so long because it didn't end on a heroic note. Yeah. And I think there's something to be said for that. Well, look at the times. I like it. I feel like the times are good. We're living in Empire, man. Like in Burst Strikes Back is happening. Like She-Hulk made

Starting point is 00:20:47 fun of, that's right, I remember seeing She-Hulk. She-Hulk made fun of the typical Disney Plus ending, which is, oh, and all hope is lost. They all come together and big heroic ending and they wrap everything up. And that often leaves people underwhelmed. And the fact that they do have season two greenlit or already written, that does speak to the fact that, yeah, perhaps they might actually end on a rather morbid note, which is the way you keep people hooked to want to come back for season two.

Starting point is 00:21:15 And Marvel wants like three, four, and five. They're talking about green lighting a bevy after. So keep them coming. The movies bar for X-Men is so much higher. That bar is high now, man. Because they left off the movies with New Mutants and Dark Phoenix. And now, they did not have a really high bar. Yeah, like, guys, they've just got to come back and be good.

Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah. Oh, this is amazing. Now they've got to come back and be excellent because they're coming off at Deadpool and Wolverine which looks gate and they're going to be excellent. Well, guys, what did you think about this episode? How do you think the finale is going to go down? I know. It's so sad.

Starting point is 00:21:49 I wonder if you're going to have bone claws. I've never liked the bone claws, but my two bone claws. Funk. What does that do it sound like? It's the one part of X-Men origins Wolverine. I'll give them credit for. How gross it was? Yeah, it's gross it was.

Starting point is 00:22:01 and then Sabretooth breaks his claws. The opening is great of that movie. And then it's just, the montage just falls apart. Yeah, but the bone claws are the saber tooth breaks. I'm always like, I can feel that.

Starting point is 00:22:10 To this day. I don't remember that sound. That's a good point. But it always, to me, Wolverine is a character who got turned into a weapon. Like, if you think of the character, he's got healing,

Starting point is 00:22:19 like he's not a weapon. The idea of them turning, like, they're manipulating nature. That's the whole idea of weapon X. They're distorting nature, the natural evolution of man, and they're turning something that heals into a weapon.

Starting point is 00:22:29 And I always saw Wolverine as, The samurai element of him is he's like a noble warrior. He wouldn't have become a weapon if not for that thing. So it wouldn't make sense that a healing person would have bone claws for no reason. But it would make sense if you have something that heals, you cover them in metal. Be like, what if we throw some knives in there? Like the addition of claws makes more sense than like nothing else about him says like I got these weird claws. So I always thought metal made more sense because that shows the nefariousness further.

Starting point is 00:22:57 It shows weapon X is willing to like abuse this man to the point of like, even adding this violence and then warping his brain and making him aggressive and all those things. And the default clause is like I don't know. So yeah, that's my psychological breakdown of why he doesn't have bone claws in my canon. We'll see if he does in the show.

Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, I can't wait for that show, man. I've got to have it. Six days, 23 hours. I can't wait. I remember my Wolverine episode of Coiscomic Corner where I said they should bring the live action as a show? Do it long for him, having me in a walkabout. That'd be cool.

Starting point is 00:23:28 Make it happen. Watch Cois Comic Corner. Make it happen, guys. Leave a like on this video. Hard at work on a really long Cois comic corner for the X-Men movies. Really long, take that one. And hopefully we'll get it to you next week

Starting point is 00:23:42 before everyone is like, we're moving on from X-Men. Well, that's an X-Men. Oh, it's X-Men. I'm done. It's Wednesday. I'm done with X-Men. Deadpool, Wolverine, Marvel, release another trailer for something else now. Give me shiny things. Because that's what they do.

Starting point is 00:23:55 Is Cap 4 out yet? Move on. Is it out yet? I'm done with Marvel. I'm done with Marvel. They'll release Captain Ameri. before you're like Thursday. Oh, they might actually.

Starting point is 00:24:04 Give them something to look forward to now. Even though semi-con footage, they might literally be like, don't forget. You love us here's more. Don't give us time to celebrate. Stay on it. Sooning and to find out. See you guys.

Starting point is 00:24:15 Bye.

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